How Did This Get Made? - Wish Upon LIVE!

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

Paul, Jason, and June dive into the 2017 horror/thriller Wish Upon, a movie starring Joey King & Ryan Phillippe where the villain is a magic box. Live from Largo in Los Angeles, the crew discuss flesh-eating skin diseases, dump jumping saxy dads, and have a heated debate over the wish box's confusing powers. Plus, Paul discovers June's intimate feelings about wontons. This episode is free, no box bucks required.  HDTGM is going back on tour! For tickets and info check out www.hdtgm.comFollow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to Find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is Not on Twitter

when you wish upon a box your friends will get killed when it locks we saw wish upon so you know what that means when you wish upon a box your friends will get killed when it locks we saw we are live in Los Angeles at our home Largo at the Coronet Theater and we are so excited to start our very scary horror how did this get hard I don't know we don't have a good title for it we'll come up with one by the end of this but we are talking about one of the scariest movies ever made it's kind of like monkeys paw meets final destination meets a really shitty Disney

teen sitcom multicam not even a single cam one a multicam one wish upon is about a young girl whose dad is a junk collector and he finds a box with with writing on it Chinese writing on it and he knows his daughter is studying Mandarin or she's studying Chinese and he says you know this is something that you would like take it she sees seven wishes on it and decides well fuck it let's go and and that proceeds obviously to wreck her life we'll get into all the nitty-gritty of this movie but that's the premise and now let's meet my co-host ladies and gentlemen please welcome mr. Jason Manzuka Jason wish upon does

this bring you back to your childhood the idea of you know if you could change anything and in your high school would you change something does this movie bring me back to my childhood you know the dream of the dream of if only I could have a teen movie met like final destination met like a genie story I mean I will say this almost everything that happens in this movie happened to me in high school that's I will say that so I guess if you ask yes it reminded me a little bit of my child there you go well I did a lot of duster diving but I was like well is anybody else like hey he's finding good stuff I'm like in on

this I need to ask a lot of questions about this but before I before I can ask I need another voice here another voice to help figure out what Ryan Philippi actually was doing and that is my other co-host please welcome June Diane Raefiel welcome June hi Paul how are you I'm good thank you for asking June you know wish upon it's a teen story I know that you hate coming-of-age stories no well I won't know I I don't love like a whimsical coming-of-age story yeah yeah how do you feel about sisterhood of the traveling pants I don't love it what I know June I know I know I'm so sorry drop dead Fred it's not for I love

drop dead friend I'm calling back our own goddamn episode I love drop dead friend but I actually love a coming-of-age horror oh oh wait yeah an example this one oh I wouldn't classify it I wouldn't classify it as coming-of-age but in a weird way it kind of she did mature over the course of the what if she's all that had murder in it I mean this movie gets started in a rough way like I was not prepared for where it was going you see a mother send her child down the block and and in this moment I'm like she's a go down to the nest and she's like that's when I'll kill myself like she she gave herself all of about

45 seconds so I thought a lot about this now I knew something was wrong once I saw that mom's face I thought oh no oh no something was wrong upset yeah something was wrong when the camera lingered lovingly on the the wrapped up what we now know is this box in the canvas or whatever the it just lingered on her putting it in the in you know it's the past because it's all metal trash cans yeah and she puts it in she puts the lid on it like we're in olden days listen later on in the movie what I thought was oh now that I think her name was Mrs. DeLuca no that's Sherilyn Finn oh sorry that is yeah yeah yeah Mrs. DeLuca I

think that she I think she expected that Claire was going to spend more time at Mrs. DeLuca's house but she sent her to the bird's nest she said go look at the nest but I think what she hoped was that Mrs. DeLuca would invite her in well no I think you have to go go knock and say hi to Mrs. DeLuca but still it's a it's a real razor's edge you know it's like mom wasn't in a good place I want to know what the mom wished for I don't know that's a reveal later I had boy so many couldn't I can't put together what the what what what is this yeah this movie this movie like like when it's revealed that the mom had the box the

whole time right the box seems to only travel within a few feet of people in this town I want to say this my understanding is so did Jerry O'Connell get the box from the mom I have to call Jerry up I call Jerry right now right now call Jerry right now see if he'll FaceTime into the show because he must he must be friends he must be friends with someone because this is just published here I can I can do it this way or just text him and tell him yeah just text him important question but okay so are you saying that the mom had the box she threw out the box and killed herself then that trash somehow went to

Jerry O'Connell's house and Jerry O'Connell then lost his mind his house burned down her father Ryan Philippi while dumpster diving outside of Jerry O'Connell no yeah it goes to her brother right her brother well wait her uncle right because no August well remember when she's when she's going down the block she's going on the block and he's and Ryan Philip he's like don't talk to that guy but I don't think he had the box that had nothing to do with the box that I think he felt like that was his dead wife's brother right and he felt like that guy was a jerk to them yeah but I agree that it was it was like there

were stakes there no uncle got rich from the box I do because because here's the thing again we should know we should all know because it's 290 people here like I mean that's true how did he get the box but I mean the box I mean there were no folks are good was it say the box that Jerry had if there's only one box yeah there's only when Jerry whoa but it didn't seem like I guess what I'm saying is the movie didn't seem to start when Jerry's house burnt down because it was like the mom no this is a round for a long 12 years earlier right and then Jerry gets the box and then I fit the box went to the uncle August because why

was why were they dumpster diving in front of Jerry's house then because they were dumpster diving but this house just burnt down yes in the beginning of movie correct we but we find that out at the end of the movie I didn't realize it was that close yeah it was very quite recent and he says Ryan says and his house Jerry O'Connell's is right around the corner for your house I don't don't don't but it's it is a done there's a bunch of dun-dun-duns in this movie that I was like wait what why what did something just happen that I'm supposed to be like oh I did but I did have the question of what were the mom's wishes

because it didn't seem like she was trying to move her station in life you know which honestly much respect like but what did she wish for you know because they wish for her brother to get money somehow I feel like that must he must be rich because of the box because all wealth is only like Spock's money I guarantee that guy didn't work hard for his money at all box money yeah classic box box if we are rich with box box there's old money and then this box what did you get a new house with box box who's gonna die so I guess in my in in my mind in my mind Joey King's mom did seven wishes I don't because that

it takes the life of you at the end oh I see you're saying yes so but yet she killed herself so I don't know so did Jerry though so did Jerry yeah well no Jerry I thought like the flames Jerry killed it no Jerry died in the fire the guy before Jerry shot himself with the rifle Jerry did that on purpose he no he was running for my thought that's not my understanding either way he very well may have he very well may have I mean we can we can take a look at some of the clips of Jerry coming in cuz I mean this is I think Jeremy Jerry's on screen for like maybe max a minute and a half how many clips do we have we play

one clip and we're done so with Jerry look at him when this happened I was like I scream I scream doing this off him Mary's nice will sweetheart that's two daughters by the way and that's Rebecca hats off to Jerry breathing a real picture of his family Jerry they're like Jerry we need you to cut we need you to come and take a picture with your fake wife and children Jerry film will you rewind a second yeah I guarantee Jerry filled all of these scenes himself what will you remind just watch he's holding the camera watch watch right here Jerry's holding the camera uh-oh and he's like he's like a selfie goss this is

barricades himself in his house that's where he dies in a massive fire you know what's weird it's left of his estate is only a few blocks away from your house done done done oh wait so okay I guess you're in he didn't well I guess I said Jerry knew the house is on fire he didn't so like Jerry knew that the house is gonna be on fire and he would die in the house but at this point the the the box you know it seems as though the box drives the wischer crazy right it was though Joey King is go it seems like the box has an effect on its wischer the way that the

ring does on golem that well like yes the box is like cocaine and it also is working Joey King is like Motley Crue in the 80s I mean when she was holding that box we could do anything baby what she was holding that box like my bar from Stranger Things had the box in her locker Joey King was basically like my precious I do think that this movie has a very weird idea of teens because holy balls I don't know I'm sorry I have a different quote I think you're a selfish bowl of bitch sauce this movie was absolutely written by someone in their 40s who's like this is how Gen Z this was I think you're a

selfish bowl of bitch sauce when when the when the nerdy girls are laughing at the cool girl and the cool girl goes if you're laughing why don't you share it with all of us like well that's the thing a teacher would say like like you don't have to reveal it to the popular girl weird too because I I mean I want to talk about the representation of Junes in films because I you know I know we talked about the hottie and the naughty and of course about that movie and a movie that I believe if you you said you auditioned did you get that I did not get it I didn't ever see an offer for that but I did in this movie so at

first I was like oh what are they trying to say about Junes you know what is this what's all this but then by the end I was like oh this Junes is one of the heroines of the film ish for sure she's the only she took the box she took the box to protect her sisters she took exactly herself and her sister no no I thought she was like I'm gonna help my sister but she was like no anything so that nothing happens to my sister exactly want to be a part of the blood payment she she kept it in her locker so her sisters wouldn't find it and make wishes or do something that would control it in a river that's like you're

a locker is safe I have a lot of issues about the lockers let's be honest the safety of the box is I mean like Joey like break out of shackles at one point the box it did it didn't break out of shackles but it was definitely props to the props department because you know like the script was like they put a chain and a lock around the box and they were like oh we went to Home Depot we got the biggest chains we could find I mean they're like pirate-sized chains it was like they literally might have been they might have been battle ropes it was the chains dwarf to the box but I have to say because I was you know we spent a

lot of time on that box and the that creepy song gotta spend a lot of time on that box and I have to say I do have to say that I felt like it was an interesting size and shape like that's a hard do you know what I mean like that's a box is coming all different sizes and shapes if I were to read this script I think I would probably make that box smaller sure you know what I mean more of like a like a music box yes and this was a music box but it was literally a music box well I in my mind I don't think it was but I also I will say I will agree with you Paul in the sense that a number of times the box creaked

open yeah played its haunting song and Joey King didn't wake up so that I was like I thought to myself and if the only reason I knew it was doing it in the movie is because of the closed captioning right because I was like disturbing soundtrack is this just the soundtrack of the movie or is this diegetic is the little song in the in the box okay and it's then she hears it at one point he's like oh well I guess like my my thought was if you said hey I found this beautiful music box and I wanted to give it to you oh that's what a nice gesture dad he's like yeah I found this box that's like Chinese right on

it you like Chinese writing right here's a box but it has no purpose it's just a box that doesn't well it's a curiosity it's a you know it's something interesting it's like it's it's like those things you put on your coffee table that don't really have a purpose but they're interesting to look we have a box we have a box like this in our house and you I keep in there that little thing that resets your iPhone okay so I will say we do have a box that looks quite a bit like this yeah what yeah it doesn't have anything in Mandarin on it no it doesn't but over Christmas during the holidays what we

like to do with that box is put a ton of bulbs in it and then just have the bulbs peeking out like the box is like vomiting bowls like you know like good Christmas like the box holds the the lights during the rest of the year but now they're exploding out because they're free from my mouth yeah but that box does it's almost the exact shape of this box it really is no I don't want it out of our house try making a wish no okay here's my question this is where I always get tripped up in these movies these wish movies why not just wish to stop the like consequences of the wishes yeah she is terrible and and Ryan the

her friends actually say it and Ryan might say to her she is terrible at having a magic box yeah the worst she's not doing it good at all no she is her wishes get worse and worse first of all we talked about like the the the really wooden labor dialogue we'll get into Smegman a bit but but at one point she's like oh man I wish my enemy would just rot and I was even like what again what a weird thing for a teenager in 2017 to say I wish she would rot then the girl gets necrotizing fasciitis yes which I automatically knew what it was by the way the fact that you just pulled that out without looking down was impressive and

that is something you get like with at manicure places you can get it is basically like you're it's like an infection in which your skin is is literally dying like the where are you usually exposed to that oh I think it's like I don't know that I don't alleys fitness yeah I think bally's fitness gold Jim got it 24-hour fitness equinox by the way when when this girl gets the body rot she got the body rock got the body rock got a bad case that body rot they are the nerdy friends have such glee that they go like she might lose a leg yeah and no matter how much I hated my high school

nemesis or whatever I'm not psyched that they're dying a painful death Joey King Joe King they're like look at this look at this or whatever and she's like huh she looks like she's rotting and then she goes and like basically basically does like a take-to-camera yes are you guys getting this I think when I said that last night I think this is happening by the way they're also also the school is getting way too much information about it what body parts are rotting off this girl but we are we are introduced to the popular girl rotting and the way that you're used to her is like her to like

lackey friends are also sleeping at her house like one in the closet what is this I do think though that that was something to me that actually felt real I was like oh yeah I think in high school I felt like cool kids got to have weekday sleepovers like I was like that seems right can you imagine having a midweek or like my head would explode go to or have sleepovers period you know what it's so interesting you say that because I actually think that's there's no reason for children have sleepovers agree I really don't fully agree we are parents who have let our children have so yeah and will again shut down the

sleepover industrial complex I don't think it's good for anyone well no because the kids don't then you get them back and more cracked out than ever but those kids seem to be sleeping fine I just don't understand why he was like I'll open the closet door and sleep half in and half out like I was trying to find a nook yeah it would I just seemed uncomfortable like it seemed like they she didn't think out the sleepover I was upset about they're probably out partying I mean I loved the sequence though of her going to the bathroom to see that she was rotting yeah she clearly didn't take off she didn't put on

pajamas she was just wearing her normal like school school clothes because she's wearing like soccer knee-high socks to have that reveal of that rotted I don't think she was wearing school clothes well I felt like she was not like close from the night before okay oh yeah not comfy cosies she wasn't in comfy cosies she was easy yeah cuz look if you're gonna go to sleep you're not gonna keep on those big knee socks no no I mean but this now must have been tough listen it was a terrible thing that happened and she did get scared oh well listen I always if I you know get most of my

services in home now but I used to go out to get manis and pedis so when I watched that sequence I was like oh it does feel like poetic justice to see someone who's going to get a mani-pedi at an establishment and wasting their time that way you can't look at your phone you can't just shit okay it's horrible and so I did I was excited to see her come down with that infection so I guess I was just like this horrible where did she go to the salon no but here's the thing about the box she does go to a salon it the box works a mysterious way oh because I I believe the box kills in a way where it's like it

did it did have something to do with the salon so every death was like that poor woman who died in the loft she did have a very dangerous sculpture there so it's like that the box didn't produce that no no but the box but I'm saying that I don't think that the box created that infection in that salon I think the salon already had it wait what are you talking about the infection no June June the wood Joey made the wish I want her to rot end of story she starts to rot it has nothing to do with the salon oh I think June's example of the bull statue is correct I think the box she absolutely I wish someone stabs themselves on a

fucking bull like she goes I was back the mama's back like I wish she was a consequence yeah hold on hold on can I just let me let me say one thing and I want to hear it you're gonna say because I think it's wrong when she makes a wish right I want my mom to come back I want my dad to play sax I want I want to be the popular girl in school she gets those things and now that there are consequences to this thing absolutely the dad you may have to change your tire on the side of the road but but those things happen instantaneously and then an innocent is killed that's true right this is one example of like someone

being harmed because of her wish well no the dog is harmed because of no no but she wishes an evil thing yes you're right and then she threatens to her friend she goes if you don't let me walk out of here in this box I'll use one of my last wishes on you you know like so she a flawless Joey King thank you check out summer or three I know I've worked with her so you're saying that there was nothing in the salon that causes absolutely they do blame the salon in the movie right the movie has to because the movie has to because it makes no fucking sense yes so but like it's not like see what's what happened was she

wished for her to rot and then what the box did the box did what the box does best the box knows no who's there the box doesn't have to make a logical conclusion because when she goes I wish my mom came back to life the mom's like hey it's your birthday it is fat Albert I think a perfect example though is when when Ryan Felipe is searching for that screw down there there are multiple ways the box tries to kill him and all of those things that happen he's already in a precarious position just by his way so you said the box set up the gig from out of town wait I don't think the box is trying to kill Ryan Felipe at all he

sure the box sure is the box kills Cheryl and Fen instead yes that's the friend in the elevator at that time oh that's the friend in the elevator but that's because of timing the box was trying to kill both of them like what yes no it's a red herring you're like oh the dad got a gig from out of town the box is working it's magic I think you think the box made the movie the box didn't edit the movie I think the movies trying to set us up that one of these people is gonna die but the box is saying I'm killing Meredith no I don't think that's true I think the box is trying to do a few different things like

guys I just looked it up the movie was directed by the box the box didn't create and like the elevator and builds the building like the box just took what was probably already a precarious situation with the elevator and made it so much worse so that's what I'm saying about the salon there was I do think you're right in this sanitary practices going on the girl didn't go home from school get necrotizing fasciitis and raw wait no no no you say yeah are you saying this the girls in bed and she goes I wish Fred is imaginary the girls in bed and she goes I want her to rot and then the box that shit well she's

asleep I'll figure out something tomorrow let me think I'll look at her calendar maybe I should go to a subway oh okay in the subway sandwich maker has an open cut and then I'll make this like I don't think the box is like going through the schedule I think it's like I wanted a rotten box like rot because like when she says no when she says I want my mom back the Sun comes out I don't know how the mom controls the Sun but the Sun comes down just like I'm here yes but you're right about that but yeah I do think though that rotting is sort of something that happens over a period of time I agree with you yeah which is

unsettling I just feel like look this is the problem this movie has no fucking rules right that's what I do what are the rules of the box right and like and what it makes me angry about a movie like this is like she doesn't know the rules right right but she's not even understanding when people are dying because no one's even telling her like when she says I want that girl to rot she rocks but she also doesn't know that that girl rotting is gonna kill someone else too like every wish has an alternate death on top of it the dog yeah the dog dies the dog Cheryl and Fen and so yes when Cheryl and Fen gets

her hair caught in the I was so stressed people are already doing things that are a little scary I did not like where that button for the garbage disposal was that's every time every time she put her hand in that thing I was like oh I was like oh no no no no no I literally I've had to fish around a few times and the care I take when I put my hand here that I was instilled with as a child of the garbage disposal as something that would chew me up to death yes and I'm still trying to understand how she died well breaks her neck her hair gets caught in it I think it breaks her neck well she also is like what

could possibly be caught there so are you saying are you saying that the box was like okay she's cooking carrots so I'm gonna make her miscut a carrot big enough to cause an issue I think I'm doing too much Paul and this is my this is my point about the elevator and Ryan Fleet there the the box is also got that water on the stove so that was another pasta it's date night for Cheryl and Fen in the box I think once that box knows it's time for blood for blood payment it's working on many different you know she's gonna want to make the box is doing so much work the mind that's to no wonder

there's so many gears inside of it did it I really thought did anybody else think that there was going to be a physical manifestation of the demon from the box or the evil from the box because there was that ornate carving of like a demon inside right or something like that and I was like oh there's gonna be great a physicalization of this evil at some point and and we're gonna get to see what we're up against nope we're up against a box whole movie just boxes a bad guy what about a movie where the bad guy is a magic box and you never get threatened and no one knows the rules of it because she really I

don't think at any point Joey King gets the rules I got some point you know how I know she doesn't she's dead at the end of the movie I thought that I thought look the end the end death got me I was like I thought it was all gonna work out great I love Ryan was very clear with her after the seventh wish it takes its toll or whatever well let's go back also to her house so this is the shot after the mom commits suicide where the bike is still in the same spot 12 years later yeah right the daughter goes in yeah daughter goes into the house catches a mom boom bike is still bike was never picked up yep and then the dad Ryan

Philippi is not like I was trying to figure out what is he doing like he is collecting pieces of trash to selling scrap metal but then he's the guy says this so fat about the box this will this will fetch a good price at the swap meter whatever you heard the there I think they're they're getting stuff and going to swap meets and you know whatever estate sales or whatever and selling stuff from fans of your houses but then I thought that they were just looking for like metal and parts and stuff necessarily had an eye for it felt like they were they he felt like I'm basing it off of him saying that I'll

fetch us a good price at the swap meet and the dad being like I could do something with these I can make something well the dad do something with this is like wait a second now you're gonna make shit like are you wait so you don't believe he can make shit well I didn't think that that was part of the deal because he's a saxophone player I thought the deal was I jump into dumpsters and find cool shit not jump jumper jump jumper jump jumper jump jump jumping is very embarrassed understandably that he's dumpster diving while she is doing like while she's heading into school yeah he's doing it literally across the

street and I think so like we're across the street in there I was really this movie is about bad parenting well like hey look don't dump jump and everything is cool because really if the dad didn't dump jump well here's no no I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say don't dump jump I think if the dad didn't dump jump she would still have been hit by that car no because she would never have given the box to the guy no she would have been so I think that was ultimately what we are supposed to walk away with which is this idea like you can wish for what you want to wish and you can fantasize and we can believe that we can change the

course of our lives but ultimately like you might get hit by a Chevy Tahoe no June what the fuck are you talking about I really I'm right I am right June you are not right I think that was the moral of this story it's not my story is the box fucking takes your life no that's not that's happens to be true but that's not the moral of the story the moral of the story is don't be so selfish and wish to be popular and wish to have people love you live in the moment no no free the thing is nothing is for free I can't fault Joey King or Claire as she is called in this movie too much because she has truly for all of her

bad decisions of which there are so so many so because her mother killed herself in front of her when she was a child and her father is Gonzo and he seems very chat to it out no he's drinking a paps he's like I got you a box you like Chinese I honestly didn't know how to feel about him actually because I was like oh I feel for him you know he's he's in the garbage the garbage but I was also like I was also like I want I I think he does love her and beyond the fact that he wouldn't do his work you know in a place that was outside of her school like that felt aggressive but I can't do Molly Ringwald being

embarrassed of Harry Dean Stan absolutely right it's the it's the it's the blue having the embarrassment of having a blue-collar dad in a world in which you are surrounded by all these rich right am I right in that is that the right casting I think it is I think you're right am I wrong no you're right that's pretty don't worry about them worry about us but I but I do think that there is something about like we said you're right maybe that's the wrong movie maybe I'm wrong it's like look our audience is young that's like an old movie to them that's like that's like Casablanca this is young I guess the

that's a bunch of but I guess not a young audience I'm look just for the listener at home I'm looking at these motherfuckers and if these people are young I'm fucked I guess what this movie I guess what this movie basically does kind of put the task is don't be poor right because sort of like if you're poor your life is gonna suck like I mean there's no there's no like defining hey look we may be poor but we have a great life it's like no we're poor our life sucks and you are hated like everybody in that school hates her because she's poor not because she's got a bad personality she's great artist

like you poor your dad dumps your dad's a dump jumper like they don't like they only dislike her whole family's dump jump they literally are my family's rich with box bucks look at that young guy going to the bathroom our audience can't hold a piss for the length of one show that's youth I did I did I did ask a question though in the middle we are like 50 minutes into a show gotta pee Gen Z going to a show the youth but I will say I didn't know if this movie was parody because there are these the saxophone really the saxophone when he pulls out that saxophone I'm like that's that's parody right that's parody I

think so but you know what was so wild about that scene was that how they lingered on barb I mean for a long time frankly soaked for her dad I mean this is incredible stuff your dad is like serious hot sauce again something kids say all the time also why is the dad setting up like an impromptu concert in the living room they're like it's not like a practice session it seems like there's a show on for my kids also something happening which is no matter what wishes Claire makes her friends are not affected by them so when Claire says I want to be the most popular girl in school and everybody's like oh my god

and they clap whenever she comes or whatever her friends are like what's wrong with you her friends are not impacted by the wishes at all no you want them to get some like collateral her friends should be like oh my god you're so popular we love you there her friends should be acting identically to everybody else who's now reverential but there's something really about the spread on that island oh yeah when they all bought those $800 purses but I will say like some of their like the friends are like this is killing people and she's like but why didn't you make a wish for me yeah I just told you it's

killing you know I want to get into that school like there's a lot of weird and then when the things get undone because that's the other thing again I don't want to harp too much on there's a lot of huge problems that are just rules based yeah so like when things start to become undone and oh oh now they lost all the money from the uncle right the uncle didn't pay taxes so now they have to go back to being in their old house and they're poor again but that doesn't bring anybody back to life dead people remain dead the dog is still it doesn't undone it seems to me like they say if you destroy or get rid of or give away

the box all of your wishes will be undone and that's not like it would you will live the loss is that you got your wish you gave up the box like yeah it's a tricky box trying to explain it and then you just know that that no I won't accept that answer so my mind in my mind the box is like this it's a tricky box the box the box is a simple goal you got seven wishes you do whatever you want with the seven wishes and that bite wish seven I take your life that's the deal I can make as many wishes or as little wishes I want but every wish has a death consequence got that so if you have the wherewithal to cut yourself

off from the box you give it away you throw it away you put it in a river you put in a sack you go kill yourself whatever you do those those deaths are permanent because you did get to live that life like you but that time yeah you rode the ride so that's it if you want to get off the ride that's your that's your prerogative but you rode the ride and now you're done and I think so I guess in my mind if she kept the box the box would be like I never come back for me I know it's a long time did they lose the money because Barb stole the box yeah once the box gone no no that money why did I really actually want to

drill down on this why did they money because Barb hadn't taken the box by that point I think that's when she started to maybe tie the box up yeah I think she started to try to like put some parameters around the box and teach a lesson or two and I think the box is like you're about to learn something sweetie and that's when it was revealed that Uncle August hadn't played his taxes in ten years yeah and they lost the house by the way they moved into their house not popular anymore everybody at school is actually treating her like shit again the necrotizing because I get it's girl is back and throws a drink on

her because I guess the end because I guess the idea is once you start hurting the box putting in a fire putting in the trash banging it with a stick the box like well now we're not friends anymore you know it's like don't put baby in the corner don't put box in the vent yeah you know it's like that's what we know fuck around and find out yeah I thought for sure the movie was going in a direction that it actually didn't go into fully which I was a little bit disappointed in which is I thought that Jane Joey Kings rather arc was going to be being the bullied girl who gets her stuff thrown on or whatever you know

blah blah blah and then because of the box she was going to become super popular and she was going to become the mean girl that she was stood in opposition to at the at the beginning and would have to learn the lessons of actually no I have to treat my friends right or whatever but instead like just everybody around her dies and she just keeps wanting to wish for more for her genuine questions so you you too think she died at the end for the Chevy Tahoe yeah because product placement I used to drive that exactly how is the best way to kill a high school student but why do you want it done like Chevy she didn't

feel anything so you think that and the driver was the box that was the box at the end doing that yes why because it's her seventh wish her seventh wish was to go back to the first day that her father I mean I need to wait she does it she hands the box to the kid then she is the price that is paid in blood is hers see this is what I love because June is like one of the smartest people that I know and I want to understand though how you saw it because you might be looking at well I wasn't counting so I actually did not know that that was seven okay so you just think you just thought that the car hit was and so you

were extra and that well I actually what I still maintain by the way is that that car hit because we do know that that girl is a reckless driver so I do think one of the lessons from the movie probably if it were a better movie and I was making it would have been these movies and I got it you offered this right I was and I passed on it but I think that it would have been a more interesting movie if it wasn't the box at the end and the box is probably working on several different ways to kill her but life just like if we like that life like if we cut to the box at the end the box like yeah shucks

no here's you know what here's the and I think I understand what you're saying but I think the reason that I think the reason that that's not exactly right is because that would mean that Joey King successfully outsmarted the box right going back to the first day and there is no way that the person set up in this movie but here's the thing I think I saw a better movie to be honest I do too here's what I'll say when she makes that final wish the box should go and it didn't it didn't it should have done it should have played in the backpack yes something needed to open it because when the music ends the price whatever we

needed we are like or we cut out the final shot of Ryan holding the thing is like ding-de-ding-de-ding yeah it's a really good point they keep talking about the multiverse to her and Ryan yeah as they talk about the multiverse so much that I was like are all these choices either Meredith or the dad or whatever are these gonna be multiversal options like they're this is the box is jumping her through different realities in this one your father dider and this one this one dider but but but but but no no no multiverse not in this movie just something that young people talk about did whoa you fuck with multiverses

yeah I fuck with multiverses we're both young let's kiss did did you watch the post years old and I wrote this movie obviously multiverses are big in the Marvel films but also big in Marvel films are post-credits scenes did you guys watch the post-credits scene no no here we go holy cow are you kidding me nope there all right so here we go post-credits scene I hope Jerry O'Connell's in this he's digging a digging a burial for the burlap sack don't do it right can pause it for a second Ryan is digging a small grave for a backpack before

after watching a girl that he kind of just fell in love with get killed and he now after digging a small grave is like is anyone watching me like there's also keep in mind this he did he did not fall in love with Joey King because she's gone back to a period before they hung out no last time they had this connection they almost sorry yeah yeah yeah but he doesn't know any of the the trials and tribulations right through during the court yeah that's all I mean but yeah so yeah so now how great would it been if he goes seven wishes I want Joey King to come back and Joey King is back and she's like fuck dude no you

freed me from my mortal coil but in this in the in the rationale of the movie now I feel truly awful for Ryan Philippine he has wife yeah now his daughter yeah to a cursed box and he has no idea he just lives in a world where he's dump jump in his little heart out trying to put food on the table does his wife and daughter have passed mysteriously and he has no way that he's in a way that is so interesting he's been killed by a box does he lose his sex power yeah I don't think so I think he's back to dump jumping I'm trying to remember what was that wish she wished for her dad she wished for him to be less embarrassing

well that didn't work out wasn't it right that was something like that it's almost that exact thing I will say this Ryan really needed an emotional regulation to me because Ryan would be like a real solid friend like okay we're gonna figure this out we're gonna figure this out Joey King he like you know how many wishes did you make and she beg I made five like every time she would say something he would explode like it's like look I understand this is a shitty situation we're in and you know what look I was trying to get the body like it was like I was like why is he yelling at her his cousin is dead like he's

suffering the consequence well she was a slut for wantons she was a slut for wantons that she deserved what you're not shaming the cousin because she wanted wanton no guys at one point goes can I pay her yes well she's a slut for wantons what does that mean do you only pay in wantons I didn't even understand what that I think that is what it was like buy her some wantons and she'll do the favor for you and she'll fuck the wanton it just felt like it felt like a bad recommendation it's like get her some cheetos and also a slut for wantons and I feel like if I did someone we're almost married for 15

years I didn't know that cut to tonight you're just like walking in with a big platter of wantons she was like I wasn't serious I really liked that actor though there this is the weird thing about this movie and we'll go to the audience but I'm like there it's very watchable you know yeah I to be so watchable Barb is in this you know the other actress who plays her other friend Michelle all of them are in it all crew was great everybody's in the hunky boyfriend it was very it felt like a good slick teen yes that boy do I wish had a better script or a better I'll read you one of the things that

John Leonetti the director said so when they first gave me the script I read it and I was like I'm not interested and then they sent him another one he's like okay I'll do it it didn't ever seem like he was fully invested in the script at one point he did describe the sequence with Ryan Philippi with the car thing he's like yeah we kind of just pulled that right out of her ass we needed a diversion for a scene with Meredith in the elevator so it seemed like that seems to answer the question if the box was trying to kill him at the car go on to the crowd please be careful Paul all right I have a question right

here if you could make a wish any wish at all what would your wish be and then yeah I guess if I I would wish that anything involving this box was just via Jacob's ladder scenario okay interesting I like that okay and you're you're I don't understand but it sounded good all right so your question um so my question was like did you when Ryan Phillip is trying to like fix the car and then these like two cars are like kind of like doing like Tokyo drift style do you think like it could be like the characters for like fast if yours yeah he was like he was changing his tire where they were shooting fast 10

where they were I would say where the stuntmen for fast 10 we're like hey before we go on set tomorrow let's practice let's practice dude was that Ryan Philippi all right your wish and then your question here my name's Rob I wish I'm trying to grab it look at it that hand hold it so close and is really going for it all right great obviously sex daddy was my favorite part but we we don't know what Claire's mom's wish was do we want to theorize that Claire maybe died as a child and her mom wished her back and now it's like a big box circle maybe well we also don't know how many everybody everybody's fucking

loving that the audience is like oh it's like the everybody's getting a little massage well I did find it rather strange that she didn't wish for her mom back till she got like that's what I mean by that's what I mean by no like I think that was wish five sorry dog shit with her wishes that's truly now I can understand wish one you don't really think that's gonna happen but wish one was a wish for your dead parent back wish one was a pure accident that was just a teen talking about her friend grotting the movie the movie is like what if gremlins but a box well but gremlins and grand wishes that's true

all right you got me on that one your question and I see you written it down so yeah what's your question my question is wondering what the size of this town is and what the police and emergency services think about the amount of ridiculous deaths going on this is a this is a great question because I was surprised the old man who died in the bathtub that was covered on the news it was like it didn't seem like like look I get local news but that felt like a real small like old man died in bathtub we're running with it that's our lead beyond the couple beyond Ryan Philippe and Cheryl and fan before she passes

there are no figures of authority in this town whatsoever like the kids run roughshod over this school in a way that is profoundly insane and there's not a single teacher that's like hey break it up no I'm zero we haven't even talked about that fight for nothing happens it's a slap fight and it made for good content and I would think that Claire had heard just from being in this town because it does seem like a smaller town about this man whose entire family died like three blocks from her house three blocks from your house you hear those stories but you don't have to talk about it you'd be like oh yeah that

house burnt down you don't know all that she's a teenager she's playing her Pokemon go game by the way there is a Pokemon go game in this movie that's so weird and I look I know it's hard to do technology in movies but the technology here at points I was rewinding I'm like what are they even seeing like their take on Instagram was so hard to read it was like the text is at the top picture star picture I'm like what is this and why are there multiple pictures with different headings I'm like is it be real I don't see what I'm getting at I'm also obsessed with texts in movies like this

because the font is so big I wrote that yes it's the font in order to read on camera for a teenager to have like 24-point font yeah that's what I have and then also because I'm old not like you young people I love when hot flights came up and it's like legitimately the elderly are here the audience is RIP'd they are this audience is dunzo did you I do want to just it's wall-to-wall Nana's and bubby's in here I do want to just go back this for a second not and not insult our young crowd here but the Pokemon go game so Pokemon go if you don't know is a game where you chase down Pokemon are you

explaining Pokemon go I do need by the way I do need the explanation are you that's exactly why you find Pokemon like they could be one right here yes that's them there the game you know what I actually want to know that too who decides where the Pokemon go and this is why I was explaining it do you want the box does the box controls Pokemon interesting but in this game in this game where the you know Pokemon go like wherever you are if you're in different areas in the world different Pokemon over there you're collecting and you're fighting whatever but in this movie it felt like there were real people like at one point she's like oh madam Nazira is here but then she like got her sights on a

real person in the hallway like killed no there was nobody in the hallway though that the in the G in the hotel hallway there was no one oh I thought that's what in the high school hallway I'm sorry there was I thought okay you might be right let me try hold on and they have a clip of it so just to go back to a second to the box because I feel like we haven't talked about the box in a while but and it knows and it knows that it wants to be mentioned or it's gonna kill one of us but God I hope this is the show isn't like incurring the wrath of the box the box was in the box tickets and it was hoping there was a seat and it was really dumbest game ever hey don't mock what you don't understand dude okay if I kill

lurching Luisa and hack that Perry I level up to mutant killer and if I get Malforn Molly I'm a monster mutant master man I know awesome yes and Malforn Molly is who's in I believe the hotel right I guess we don't see this level this bullying is massive like well I gotta say that whenever I see Joey Kings or Claire's art in the film I'm like yeah you know what throw fucking milkshake on it okay did anyone else think that on the scavenger hunt they were gonna find the box oh no wait I thought that was a missed opportunity that it was just gonna be somewhere that part of the box is more sentient

than it is I thought for sure part of this scavenger hunt that they've teed up from the beginning of the movie is going to lead us somehow to the box we don't even really get the scavenger because Meredith gets killed in the midst of it yeah can't even enjoy that scavenger by the way I'm sorry to go back to this one more time but are you saying that well I think maybe I'm saying that the box are you saying wait I think I might be saying am I talking right now I think the box did control that Pokemon go character no the box controlled the elevator what the box controlled the elevator right but I

think the box might have sent her you think the box lured her up there so that it could get her with the elevator it's possible I think it's possible by the end of the movie before she goes back in time Joey King at age whatever she is in this movie 15 has seen so much death that it's that she should be like in a ball on the floor just being like what is happening by the way what do you think actually happened to Ryan Philippi because that was the best the best death in the film he got chainsaw decapitated had got chopped up okay chop chop all right all right right that's exactly I want I would have liked only me action

would like to see a little neck the movie I think because of expense didn't do a bunch of the the gory or gas I thought and I appreciated that for one and I thought I was well done yeah I thought the scares were good obviously we have opinions about this movie but there are people out there with different opinions it is now time for second opinion here we go just a small town girl living in the shithole world everyone at her high school is such a dick dumpster diving with her dad and find some music box her wishes will make her so cool rotting faces ponytails in garbage disposals oh no her wish is killed that dog don't

stop making wishes though it kills everyone you love at least your dad is hot and plays the sex it's my second opinion this movie has no flaws I will give it five stars no notes for those of you listening at home that person was 16 years old all right one of the youth that loves how did this get made a podcast that is going on year 13 an audience made up entirely of middle school kids who love bad movies one of the reasons why we picked this movie is because it is of the sample age of our audience wish upon has an average 4.2 out of five stars which is very different

than its tomato meter rating of 19% 62% or five stars 7% or one stars Linda Burris writes this title scary sale was a scare makes me think twice about yard sales five stars and then this one goes this is from the name is cdg technical writer since 2000 he writes now like the wishmaster said be careful what you wish for the wishmaster not in this movie by the way I wish there was a wishmaster I would like I think there was a movie called the wishmaster oh really so the wishmaster says so like the wishmaster says be careful what you wish for so I'm not gonna wish you would watch this movie but just do it

whoo I'm glad that's over people are lonely yes yes they are life is hard life is hard it is and on it unexpected often like you're just you think you wrap things up you're walking back into school and then bam by a Chevy Tahoe Chevy Tahoe built tough no teenagers ever survived poor visibility in the front I didn't even see her and you'll never see her so you won't feel guilty you won't see her coming it's not your fault it was the box when we're on her it was the box by the way when she does get hit the placement of the bodies like her body is like on another car's hood and I feel bad for that person because that

person was innocent the driver of that car but she's got the driver that car is like oh I got ass in my face I get out and be like on the phone immediately like he's calling AAA because there's there is a corpse on his car in front of school again no adults visible except her father in the dumpster Joey King's friends don't approach the people who hit her don't approach like shit weird hope we're not gonna be late for school this one right here written by Muffy Roberts I like this one and I wanted to ask June her opinion about this it's suitable for children over seven

I'll give you a thousand dollars to show your kids this movie no blood no gore oh I very exciting the moral of story nothing is ever truly free you must earn it or pay some other price why did the mother kill herself at the beginning of the movie and what was wrapped in the blanket that she's so gently placed in trash and why was the dog so interested in it side note when the music box played it's settled the Twilight Zone five stars budget of this movie 12 million opening weekend 5 million domestic gross 14 million worldwide gross 23 okay top three movies of 2017 Star Wars episode

eight The Last Jedi Beauty and the Beast live-action Fate and the Furious and this movie came in 193 of the top 200 movies of 2017 it was beat by the Fast and Furious triple X Return of Xander Cage Valerian Geostorm Geostorm the snowman and the disaster artist no it did beat no how did this get made movie that was it and boy oh boy I mean this movie is a real interesting film because I would say like you said June it's really watchable I might recommend it but it's also like if you think about it like it's a movie that if you give it any thought it completely falls apart as that second opinion writer yeah eloquently

established even while trying to give it five stars started to pull at the threads of the movie well I mean but that that the threads were answered we know it was in the what the mom put in the garbage we got it we you should know that like I mean that just seems like bad movie watching that was like yeah that's not a but I kind of I like movies like this I love final destination like those movies where it's like hey you avoided death but it's coming for you it's gonna get you I like those movies but I feel like the deaths were good ish it wouldn't scary you know go ahead sorry no I mean I'm really struggling

because I did really like the ending and now I don't know what to think you know because I wasn't counting the wishes and I didn't know that was a seven wait so that actually the fact that she was killed by the box actually hurts the movie for you for me it does absolutely you like the movie where she's like she was gonna get killed either way so just live your life no matter what you would like the movie bed you for you the movie should have been she wakes up goes to school kisses a boy gets hit by a truck yeah great movie great movie because to me what I took because to me what I took away from that together put it out the

movie seven minutes long I was like oh what a great choice you know that she's trying to outsmart this box and I do agree the box would have gotten her right so I think it did well I agree to disagree but I want I'm gonna go with my ending because I think it is a bit of a choose your own adventure especially because of when that music starts I think yes I think that for me the movie and a little bit of what you're both saying I believe is true like so many of the pieces of this are like actually good yeah you know good actors good it it looks good there's like but the the faults and the holes and the lack of

rules mean that we are constantly trying to help the movie make more sense yes and I did it more well because to me what I loved about the ending that I saw was I was like oh yeah that's absolutely right the most terrifying the most things that happen in life the horror the real horror of life is the chaos is the unexpected things that happen it is not I like thematically love that I wish this movie had been if it if in fact that is the case and that was the movie's intention I wish the movie was Lee would lean into that more I wish the movie would be into some of its stuff more well and that's why I think final

destination or movies that are a little bit like clear he spends too much time unfortunately unsuccessfully because I think it could have been good trying to service the teen story so it's not just a straight horror right grind kind of slasher whatever this it's also trying to be a makeover she becomes popular she has all of her wishes come true and it's starting it's trying to operate on the teen movie level as well so it's it ends up being neither nor and so it's not as fun well I guess I wanted it to be much more I think that there's there are some confusing things about it I think I would have liked this movie better if the

mom said go ride your bike down to the nest and then a garbage truck plowed in to her the mom the mom yeah like her committing suicide well her committing suicide automatically screws up the premise right like the premise is like you will be killed by or take your soul the other part of it would I would have loved for something clearly positive or something happening such so that we understood the mom made a wish and then paid a consequence right like hey you were only in that cast for a day or hey your leukemia went away like you know now go ride the bike starts with a doctor's visit it's like wow the tumors

have disappeared in young Claire go like okay and then done so yeah then it's garbage truck city who's there garbage truck city because he's like those garbage trucks killed my wife I'm gonna go and I'm gonna get all the garbage so those trucks won't be driving our streets would it surprise you if I told you this movie was a 2015 blacklist script well I know it surprised her that was incredible yes this movie was a 2015 what this movie was a 2015 blacklist script and on the official trivia page this is actually put together by Molly Reynolds one of our producers here this is not a true fact but I want to read

it because it makes me laugh it said the apart was originally offered to Danny Glover but after an extensive audition process they gave it to Joey King instead Danny Glover obviously the star of movies like a lethal weapon an older man was offered to Joey King clearly that's not true but it's so odd that it's on the official trivia for this movie that someone was like I don't know but I want to give props to the bit like that someone was like I got a funny bit I'm putting on the official trivia I would like to put it out there maybe to Avril or a fan maybe see if you can do a cut an edit of the trailer where every

shot for this shit every shot of Joey King is replaced with a scene a moment from a Danny Glover movie reunited Danny Glover and Ryan Philippe who would have played his father from the movie shooter boom there it is we got three you know you know how else you know that young people talk this is a movie by young people for young people is she and Ryan spend their time in the car talking about who ripped that fart in first grade that's what teenagers who are falling in love talk about remember when you ripped a fart in first grade and blamed me and then everybody called me McFarts or whatever

farts and multiverses that's what that's what young people talk about ladies gentlemen thank you so much for coming out tonight one more time for everybody here a Largo Alec in the booth David in the booth Cody in the booth Scott in the booth thank you everybody for coming out