Inquiry with Kelly Chase - [The UFO Rabbit Hole] Ep 10: A Rational Approach To Ancient Aliens [Pt 3]: Non-Human Intervention & Cataclysms

Episode Date: April 3, 2022

In the final part of this 3 part series, A Rational Approach to Ancient Aliens, we finally get to the good stuff—non-human intervention and cyclical global cataclysms. We’ll start by taking a tour of some of the most mysterious archeological sites in the world: from Puma Punku in Bolivia to Baalbek in Lebanon. We’ll even talk about a sunken city off the coast of Cuba that may be 50,000 years old.Do these anomalous sites prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the ancient alien theory is true, and that human civilization was guided—or perhaps even seeded—but a super advanced intelligence in the distant past?And finally, we’ll look at the evidence surrounding the cataclysm that kicked off the Younger Dryas as well as examine the possibility that a more dramatic and profound cycle of global disasters may be responsible for shaping human history.NEW Class from Dr. James MaddenUnidentified Flying Hyperobject: UFOs, Philosophy, and the End of the WorldFour-week online class via ZoomWednesdays, March 27 – April 24 (skips April 10), 20247 – 9 pm ETLearn More About the ClassSign Up NowGET THE EPISODE BRIEFBECOME A PATRONGET THE BOOKGet a SIGNED COPYGet it on AmazonFOLLOWWebsiteTwitterFacebookMUSICTheme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun FrearsonMusic Break 1: Asturias by Alon PeretzMusic Break 2: Ancient by Nimrod NolBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-ufo-rabbit-hole-podcast--5746035/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I took a knife away from a guy once that was intent on killing me. I choked up on the knife and I tacked to a circle around his heart, lasting circle. And that was a very intimate act. He said, here's a list of all Aaron Brotherhood dropouts. Go through this list, sent a letter to each one of these M-Fing rats, and ask them if you could come and interview them for me. He has created this illusion of who he is. If you believe anything he tells you, you're just growing up.

You want to send me to Michael Thompson, who bucked the whole AB, dropped out, and testified against them, and you think I'm going to go there and convince him to recant? My mom told me, Eric, he's kind of a borderline con person most of your life too, but you got conned by a con man. Blood memory, a new podcast series from love and radio, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the UFO Rabbit Hole podcast.

I'm your host, Kelly Chase. Today, we're going to take on what will be the third and final installment in our series about the ancient astronaut theory. We've covered a lot of ground to get here, and we have a very full episode to get through, so I'm just going to jump right into it. When we last left off, we'd establish that sites like Gobeckley-Tepe and the Great Sphinx present major challenges to the current narrative of the emergence of human civilization, pushing back the advent of high civilization by thousands of years. And while mainstream academia has thus far been reluctant to embrace this reality, there is more than sufficient evidence to make the case that high human civilization has its origins sometime before

the younger dryest, more than 12,000 years ago. This brings to light the astounding possibility that human civilization was in some way seated or at the very least guided by a highly advanced non-human intelligence in our distant past. But what other evidence is there to support this admittedly audacious claim? In my mind, one of the most flabbergasting archaeological discoveries of our times is one that has gotten very little attention and has been almost entirely dismissed by mainstream academics. In 2001, Pauline Zeletsky, a marine engineer, and her husband, Paul Weinswig, owners of a Canadian company called Advanced Digital Communications, or ADC, were working on a survey mission in partnership with the Cuban government off the eastern tip of Cuba.

The area is known to have been the site of several treasure-laden shipwrecks, and ADC was one of a handful of agencies that was working with Fidel Castro's government in an attempt to locate these riches. The team was using advanced sonar equipment to scan a two-square kilometer area of the seafloor when they noticed a series of symmetrical and geometric stone structures resembling an urban complex. There, lurking below the waters, were symmetrical pyramids, the foundations of vast structures and wide grid-like boulevards. In my mind, at least, The man-made nature of these structures is undeniable, and evocative of the complexes built by the Mayans and Aztecs. But as always, I don't think you should take my word for it.

Seriously, go look at the pictures for yourself right now and decide for yourself. You can find them in the full episode brief that's linked in the description. So, unless you're driving, go look at them right now. If you're driving, I'm going to need you to keep your eyes on the road and your hands at 10 and 2. You can see them later. But once you've seen the pictures, I think you'll see what I mean. It looks like the ruins of a city. And as far as I could tell in my research,

no one has so much as ventured a guess as to how these structures could be the result of natural geological processes. In July 2001, they returned to the site with geologist Manuel Ideraldi, senior researcher of Cuba's Natural History Museum, this time, equipped with a remotely operated vehicle to examine and film the structures. The cameras revealed even more astonishing evidence, including large, perfectly cut stones of granite

measuring 8 feet by 10 feet stacked on top of each other. Despite these findings, Iterol Day, who has studied countless underwater formations, was reluctant to draw any conclusions, saying only, these are extremely peculiar structures, and they have captured our imagination. But if I had to explain this geologically,

I would have a hard time. So, why the reluctance to call this submerged city what it so clearly is? The answer is that, according to the mainstream narrative of human history, it shouldn't be there. Because the last time that particular area was above water was 50,000 years ago, approximately 40,000 years before the end of the last Ice Age and the building of Gobeckley-Tepe, which, as you'll recall, is itself a megalithic structure that has been definitively dated to 7,000 years before humans were supposed to have been advanced enough to build something of that scale. At this point, it's glaringly obvious that we don't just have the history of human civilization wrong, but we've undershot its true age by literally thousands of years, if not tens of thousands of years. And yet, mainstream academia simply refuses to engage with this reality, dismissing and discrediting any archaeological find that contradicts their dogma.

In the case of the underwater city off the coast of Cuba, the response of mainstream academia has been to rewrite history. After initially refusing to acknowledge the site because its existence was impossible, it seems that some academics have found a workaround. It has now been accepted by some that the ruins are legitimate, but that they are 6,000 years old and not 50,000 years old. And how did they come to this date? On the coast, near the site, is another megalithic structure that was first excavated in 1966, which is believed to be 6,000 years old. Therefore, the underwater city must also be 6,000 years old. However, thus far, no explanation has been given as to how the city could have been built on a site that was underwater at the time that it was alleged to have been built. To be clear, I'm not saying that the city is definitely 50,000 years old.

There is still a lot of work to do before anyone could say that conclusively. However, I don't know how anyone could argue that general proximity is a better method of dating than, say, determining the last time that the site was. wasn't underwater. Especially when your entire basis for choosing that younger date is to make it align to your preconceived notions of what must or must not be true. At any rate, at least this commitment to cognitive dissonance has meant that the site has begun to be explored. And through these explorations, they've found structures within the complex as long as 400 meters wide and as much as 40 meters tall, and an anthropologist affiliated with the Cuban Academy of Sciences has said that still photos taken from the videotape clearly show symbols and inscriptions,

though the language has not yet been identified. Another archaeological anomaly that contradicts the mainstream narrative of human history is Puma Pumku in Bolivia. High in the Andes Mountains, in the Altaplano Desert, just southeast of Lake Tidicaca, And what is undoubtedly one of the most rugged and desolate places on earth lies the ruins of Tewanaku. Discovered by Westerners in 1549 by Pedro Sierra de Leon while looking for the capital of the Incan Empire, Tijuana is a massive ancient temple complex. Within the complex is a large walled courtyard with carved faces scattered intermittently between the other stones. Interestingly, many of these faces appear to look like. humans from different cultures around the world, although supposedly such ancient people shouldn't

have had any way to be exposed to cultures on the other side of the ocean. And strangers still, some of the faces look humanoid, but still far from human, including one face that looks very much like a gray alien. And listen, Tijuanaaku is cool and all, but what we're really here for is its mysterious neighbor lying just a half a mile away, Puma Puku. Puma Pumu. Puma Pumu. means gateway of the Puma, a name given to it by the local Imara people who found artifacts depicting warriors wearing masks made out of Puma Skulls at the site. So, let's start with what's strange about Puma Pumku, because the answer is basically everything. First of all, the site has been destroyed. We're just not sure how. Puma Punku looks like the ruins of what was once perhaps

a large temple complex. What remains are skisks. scattered stone blocks and monoliths made from red sandstone and a site. And these ruins truly are ruined. Despite the fact that the largest of these stones weigh up to nearly 150 tons, they are scattered about like a Lego city that just got Godzillaed by a toddler. The site was further corrupted by a misguided and ultimately unsuccessful attempt in 2004 to reassemble the site. So some of the blocks have been haphazardly moved around,

making it even more difficult to piece together what used to go where. And it's hard to imagine what kind of force could have strewn these megaliths about like they were children's toys. Due to evidence that some of the stones may have at one time been entirely covered in mud, it's been speculated that perhaps a massive and catastrophic flood could have saturated the ground, causing the stone foundations to become unstable before a deluge consumed it, scattering the blocks. But at 12,000 feet above sea level, that scenario seems unlikely. But that's not all that's strange about the ruins of Puma Pumku. There's also the fact that we don't know how the builders of Puma Pumku got the stones to this site.

Based on detailed, petrographic and chemical analyses of samples from individual stones and known quarry sites, archaeologists have determined that the red sandstone blocks at the site were transported up a steep incline from a quarry site. near Lake Titicaca, roughly 10 kilometers or 6.2 miles away. And if that wasn't daunting enough, the Andesite blocks were determined to have come from quarries within the Cocoa-Cubanac Peninsula about 90 kilometers or 56 miles away. Archaeologists still don't have a definite answer on how this was done. However, I will note that I'm always a little less swayed by the arguments that megalithic blocks were too big to be moved great distances. It's interesting for sure, and I would say that the size and the distance of the blocks being moved could speak to the advancement and wealth of that culture, because the resources needed to undertake

such a thing would be incredible. However, there are two reasons that I hesitate to assume an advanced technological answer to explain megaliths being moved over large distances. The first is that there have been various studies and experiments that have shown that there are some pretty ingenious ways of moving these megaliths, albeit very slowly, including using log rollers and other basic materials that would have been available. And we can't rule out that ancient people were able to figure it out. And the second is that I think we tend to underestimate what can be accomplished by a civilization that's willing to throw endless amounts of human suffering

at a problem. So while it's certainly an interesting data point, I'm not convinced that it can be used as a decisive proof of the use of advanced technology or the possession of special knowledge. However, that point may be irrelevant because the stonework at Puma Punku shows evidence of having been done by advanced tools. The stonework at Puma Punku is bananas. It fucks me up. I seriously don't even know how else to say it. Red sandstone and andesite are both a very hard kinds of rock. To put that into context, we use a scale called the Mose scale. to measure the hardness of different minerals on a scale from 1 to 10, with one being the softest and 10 being the hardest. Diamonds are a 10 on the most scale. Granite is a 6. By comparison, red sandstone is a 6 or 7, anandesite is a 7.

Given the hardness of these stones, the stonework at Puma-Pumku defies any traditional explanation. The stones were cut in such a precise way that they fit together perfectly. locking into place without the use of mortar. To accomplish this would not just require astounding technological precision and finesse, but an understanding of descriptive geometry. The architectural historians, Jean-Pierre and Stellaner, who conducted the first professional field study

on the stones of Pumipunku, concluded about these stones that, quote, to obtain the smooth finishes, the perfectly planar faces, and exact interior and exterior right angles on the finely dressed stones. They resorted to techniques unknown to the Incas and to us at this time. The sharp and precise 90-degree interior angles observed on various decorative motifs most likely were not made with hammerstones.

No matter how fine the Hammerstone's point, it could never produce the crisp right interior angles seen on Tioinaku's stonework. Comparable stones in Inca masonry all have rounded interior angles typical of the pounding technique. The construction tools of the Tijuanaacans, with perhaps the possible exception of hammerstones, remain essentially unknown and have yet to be discovered. And those tools remain undiscovered until this day. Even more astounding is the fact that many of these blocks are finished to machine quality, with tiny holes that are drilled to perfection.

And these holes don't look like decoration, but like utilitarian means of construction and joining these pieces together. The machined appearance of these stones is all the more compelling because to create stonework with a similar level of precision out of the same materials today,

we'd need to use advanced equipment like lasers in diamond-edge circular saws. Further adding to the mystery is that many of these stones aren't just precisely cut into complex multifaceted blocks, but they're also done so precisely as to be completely identical. Allowing one block to be perfectly interchanged with another, almost like the prefabricated building materials that we use today. And interchangeability of parts, as seen in the blocks of Puma Poonku,

is something that, on its own, is suggestive of a more advanced society. While there are very few isolated examples of interchangeable parts being used in the ancient past, almost always in weapons to make warring easier, go figure, for the most part, interchangeable parts weren't something that was commonly used before the early 1800s. Even stranger is that many of the stones are magnetized. Apparently, if you hold a compass up to the stones, the needle will spin and spin. Why would this be? What would cause this?

Could it have been some result of the construction process or the result of a natural phenomenon? We simply don't know. And what's extra frustrating is it will likely never know how the builders of Puma Poonku did it because we don't even know who they are for sure. No one knows who built it. Well, Puma Pumku was an important site for the Incan people. They didn't build it. Mainstream archaeologists have offered several different potential dates for the creation of the site,

with the most commonly accepted date being around. around 500 AD, which predates the Incan Empire by more than half a millennia. When the early Spanish conquistadors asked the Incan ruler who built Puma Punku, they claimed that it had been built by the gods in only one night. So in reality, we don't actually know how old Puma Pumku is, but there is evidence that it is much older than believed. And while mainstream archaeologists insist that the site is no more than 15, or so years old. There are many who question this date. Not the least of which is the local

Imara people whose local elders and historians claim that the site is 10 times older than that, having been built 15,000 years ago, or 3,000 years before the end of the last Ice Age. Austrian archaeologist Arthur Puznansky, who was one of the first archaeologists to study Puma Punku and who spent decades at the site, also advocated. for the date of 15,000 years ago, citing various astrological alignments that would have tied it to that time. And while I find the evidence that Puma Punku predates the Ice Age to be interesting and compelling, it doesn't need to be true for Puma Punku to be unexplainable within the current narrative. Whether it was 1,500 years ago or 15,000 years ago, humans simply didn't have the tools or the knowledge

to create megaliths of such complexity and precision. So ultimately, who built it and how are the questions that really matter? The when is just an interesting detail. On the other side of the world in Balbeck, Lebanon, was another archaeological site that defies explanation. We don't know for sure who ordered the construction of the Temple of Jupiter at Balbeck, nor do we know exactly when it was built. However, most archaeologists date it to either the first century BC or the first century AD.

The style of the temple, with its towering columns and its dedication to the Roman god Jupiter, make it undoubtedly a Roman construction, though, hazy though its origins may be. However, what's interesting about Balbeck isn't so much the temple of Jupiter, but the massive stone platform on which it sits. And although mainstream archaeologists date this platform to the first century BC, more or less aligning it to the building of the Temple of Jupiter, I'd argue that it's pretty obvious that this is not accurate. First of all, the foundation of the temple itself appears to have been built on the foundation of an older temple.

And both weathering and logic would suggest that the massive stone platform that it sits upon must be even older than that. But once again, whether you date this structure to the first century BC or the 10th century BC, it doesn't matter. because at either time, humans should not have had the ability to build it. Now, I've already mentioned that I tend not to find the rock too big can't lift argument to be very compelling. But the megaliths at Balbeck are a clear exception. Integrated into the back wall of this massive platform are three of the biggest megaliths known to humankind. Each of these stones weighs at least 800 tons.

To put that into perspective, that is the same weight as five average adult blue whales. It's insane. And not only were these monstrous megalists quarried and moved to the site, but they were then somehow lifted 20 feet in the air to rest in their current positions. As with all of the sites I'll mention today, you can find pictures of these stones in the episode brief link in the episode description, and all you really need to do is look at them, to understand that something we don't understand happened at Balbeck.

But those megaliths aren't even the largest found in the area. Three megaliths conventionally known as the stone of the pregnant woman, the stone of the South, and the forgotten stone, lie nearby, and are the largest stones ever to have been quarried. At a staggering 1,1,200, and 1,600 tons, respectively, the size of these megaliths boggles the mind. Now granted, the location of these three massive stones gives every indication that they were simply too big. All three of them still lie in the quarry where they were cut, and there they shall likely remain for millions of years. Even now, our ability to move them

would be extremely limited and would require an insane amount of time and resources. And what we see at Balbeck is a perfect example of something very surprising that we see in a lot of megalithic structures, which is that the oldest parts of the construction are by far the most advanced. We see it at at Cobeckley-Tepe where the oldest parts of the construction are the most sophisticated. We see it at Tijuanau, where Puma-Pumku, though agreed to be the oldest construction on the site, shows signs of advanced technology far beyond what would have been needed to build the more recent sites. And there are particularly stunning examples of this in Peru. The ruins of Cori Concha, which means the Golden Temple, can be found in Cusco, Peru.

In many places, all that remains of this ancient Incan holy site is its massive megalithic foundation, upon which a Spanish church was built in the 16th century, because colonizers. However, as beautiful as the 16th century church is, it looks somehow. how sad and small on top of the foundation of Cori Concha. The precision with which the megaliths are cut and fitted together, including a perfectly curved retaining wall, is enough to take your breath away. Once again, I'd recommend that you look at the pictures to get the full impact. We can see something similar at the Peruvian site of Machu Picchu. The oldest and most foundational parts of the site, once again, show the most advanced knowledge and the largest megaliths.

With subsequent rounds of building being done on top with much smaller stones and far less precision, this has caused some to suggest that Machu Picchu may not have been originally built by the Incan people, but rather repurposed and rebuilt by them on a far more ancient site. And whether or not that is the case, it defies logic that the Incan people would start out with such a high level of ability to create megalithic structures of this scale and precision, only to be rebuilding the walls a few hundred years later with much smaller blocks of stone. Much like Quebec-Tepe, we're again and again confronted with an odd situation. An advanced civilization of megalithic builders pops out of obscurity with little to no evidence of ramp-up time.

Does their most breathtaking and awe-inspiring work before the civilization, begins a long, slow decline, each new wave of building being only a shadow of what came before. This doesn't make sense. We know that it doesn't make sense. So what does this all mean? What conclusions are we to draw from these anomalous archaeological sites that can be found around the world? The examples that we've explored are just a handful of examples, but they are representative of the four main problems that these sites present. The first, First, is that many of them, like Quebec-Tepe and Turkey, the Sphinx in Egypt, and the sunken underwater city off the coast of Cuba, are simply way too old. They show a level of sophistication,

not just in construction and engineering, but in art, geometry, and astronomy that are thousands, if not tens of thousands of years ahead of their time. The second is that some sites, like Puma Pumku in Bolivia, show clear signs of machining, and perhaps even prefabrication. We simply have no way to explain how ancient peoples could have achieved with primitive tools what it would take advanced laser-guided and diamond-tip tools to accomplish now. The third is that some of these sites have megaliths that are far too big to have been plausibly moved without some form of advanced technology.

As I've said, I generally don't find arguments about megaliths being too large for ancient peoples to have quarried and moved to be particularly compelling. If you don't care how long it takes and you don't care how many people die, humans can do some pretty unbelievable things. However, there are exceptions. The enormous megaliths at Balbeck are one example, but there are others of nearly equally gargantuan proportions in Egypt and Peru. There's even a site in southern Siberia called Garnia Sharia that if it can be proven that they are, in fact, man-made and not a man-made. And not a naturally occurring geological structure, has megaliths that outweigh even the monsters found at Balbeck. I'm less convinced on that one, but the photos are in the episode brief, so you can check them out

for yourself. And finally, we have the mystery that we see all over the world, from Gobeckli Tepe to Egypt and from Balbeck to Machu Picchu, where the earliest megalithic structures that a culture creates seems to be by far its most advanced and sophisticated. with subsequent builds and restorations never coming close to rivaling that of the first builders. Again and again with megaliths, we see advanced high culture seemingly appearing out of nowhere at the very height of its power and sophistication with very little evidence of ramp up. So who were they? Answering that question only gets more complicated when we layer on two more puzzling observations.

The first is that, paradoxically, These pockets of civilization were both relatively isolated and anomalous and spread out all over the planet. Regardless of what any of the archaeological evidence surrounding these megalithic sites may suggest, there are still certain facts that we can't deny. And the most glaring of these is that prior to 6,000 years ago, and certainly prior to the last ice age over 12,000 years ago, most humans were still hunter-gatherers. We've found their camps, their tools, their clothes, and their art everywhere on the planet where

evidence of Homo sapiens can be found. And this only makes these megalithic sites that hint at advanced civilization in our distant past more mysterious. It raises the startling possibility that while most of humanity were living a lifestyle that was akin to that of our early hominid ancestors, there existed pockets of civilization where humans had attained a dazzling level of understanding of engineering, geometry, astronomy, and more that rivaled and in some case may have exceeded our modern understanding. In some ways, this is almost the inverse of what we see on Earth today. Today, most of the world is at least somewhat modernized.

86% of people worldwide can read and write, and an almost identical proportion have access to electricity. However, they're estimated to be between 100 and 200 uncontacted tribes on the planet who have had little to no interaction with the modern world and who are still essentially living the way that our ancestors did hundreds and even thousands of years ago. And while it can initially be shocking to realize that there can be so much variability in how humans living at the same time might be living their lives, the situation in which we find ourselves in our modern world at least make some level of intuitive sense. We understand how it could be

that our modern lifestyle hasn't reached people living in remote places. And when we look at the history of colonialism, it makes sense that there are tribes in places like the Amazon who may have gone far out of their way to avoid interacting with outsiders with strange new weapons and diseases. But looking into our distant past, it's frankly confounding that such a sophisticated level of high civilization

could be achieved by a few, while the vast majority of humans were still living as hunter-gatherers. What accounts for this difference? How did they get so far ahead? And what happened to them that was so fundamentally different than what happened to everyone else to account for such a massive disparity? And this mystery only deepens further when we recognize that this level of advanced civilization didn't just appear in one corner or region of the world. But it is a mystery. pockets scattered across nearly every continent. And for reasons that we still don't understand, in each of these far-flung cultures, the attainment of this knowledge seems to coincide almost exactly with the building of megaliths. And as if things weren't confusing enough, we have one

more added layer of nuance and complication, which is that these civilizations show evidence of advanced technology that does not fit within our known paradigm. As we, we have a lot of, we're we discussed previously in part one of this series, if humans were to entirely disappear tomorrow, there would be surprisingly little left to tell the tale of our modern lives. Our cities and skyscrapers, while they look impressive, are not built to last. In fact, it would take less than a thousand years after the disappearance of humans for all of New York City to become a pristine forest again. And because we've only been at this relative level of advancement for around 100 years, barely a blip in terms of the dizzying scope of geological time, before long, it would be almost

impossible to find anything of our way of life in the archaeological record. It's surprisingly easy for an entire civilization, even one as advanced and global as our own, to disappear without a trace. But there's one form of evidence that we will leave behind, and that will leave an indelible mark on the planet for hundreds of millions of years. And that is our use of plastics. Plastic never biodegrades, which means that every single piece of plastic that has ever been created, unless they got shot up into space at some point, is still here on the planet.

And it will be forever. The Empire State Building may vanish without a trace in a matter of centuries, but your toothbrush and the grocery bag you use when you clean out your cats, litter box could be discovered virtually intact by someone millions of years in the future. We use around 100 million tons of plastic every year, at least 10% of which ends up in the oceans. This means that our current time period will be marked forever in the geologic record with a layer that is basically speckled with plastic, even in the very deepest parts of our oceans. And it's already happening.

In Hawaii, they recently identified a new kind of rock that has been washing up on the shores called a plasticglomerate, which is essentially rock that has become fused with melted plastic. So, if these civilizations were in many ways as advanced as we are, and if they perhaps persisted for thousands of years at a time, why don't we see something similar in the geologic record? It's certainly difficult to imagine our modern lives without plastics. Beyond just convenience products, plastics play a critical role in health care, safe food storage and packaging, complex scientific equipment, the space program, and more.

But what's clear is that whatever level of advancement may have been achieved by our ancestors in the distant past, it apparently lacked many of the trappings of our modern lives. And if their abilities and tools did truly reach the level that we would call technology, as is suggested by megalithic sites like Puma Punku and others, it was likely of a fundamentally different kind than what we have today. These civilizations didn't use plastics, and they almost certainly didn't use fossil fuels. This begs the question of how their technology differed from our own, and it offers us a tantalizing hint at a potential,

technological paradigm that may have once existed that was perhaps in better harmony with the environment than the one that we currently occupy. So, as we can see, each piece of this puzzle is baffling in its own right. When we put it all together, the path to the truth becomes even more Lebrintheon. So what could explain all of this bizarre evidence of advanced civilization in our distant past. If we're willing to put aside the established narrative of human civilization as told by mainstream academia and consider the evidence with an open mind, a surprising narrative begins to emerge. First of all, it seems clear that human civilization is far more ancient than we thought. At this point, I don't think that's even up for debate anymore, though mainstream academia may not yet

be ready to accept it. As we discussed in part two, Gobeckley-Tepetepet, alone presents enough evidence to prove that we've underestimated the dawn of human civilization by, at minimum, 7,000 years. And the sunken city in Cuba, hints that we may still be off by tens of thousands of years more. This revelation is astonishing on its own, but it unfortunately creates more questions than answers. The reality is that the further we push back the start of human civilization, the more unlikely it becomes that any way, any group of people could have risen to that level of sophistication on their own. It just doesn't make sense.

After all, as we discussed in the last episode, the oldest sections of Gobeckley-Tepe were built approximately 12,000 years ago, near the end of the last Ice Age, also known as the Younger Dryness. And as with many other megalithic structures, the oldest sections are the most sophisticated. Gobeckley-Tepe also clearly shows evidence that it's built. had a complex understanding of engineering, mathematics, geometry, and astronomy. That kind of knowledge doesn't just come out of nowhere, and it should have taken thousands of years to achieve that level of mastery. The younger Dryas, which lasted around 1,300 years, was a horribly tumultuous time for the planet, with over 82% of mammals over 40 kilograms

dying off in North America and suffering similarly massive losses elsewhere around the globe. It seems unlikely humans could have made those sorts of advancements during such a chaotic and dangerous time period, which strongly suggests that the origins of human civilization lies somewhere before the younger dryest. But how could this possibly be? This suggests that while the vast majority of our early human ancestors were still living, living in caves and hunting mammoths with spears, that someone, somewhere, was inventing geometry and astronomy and written language. And honestly, I can understand why mainstream academia has been so resistant to embrace this reality, because it simply doesn't make sense. It's not possible.

Unless we are willing to admit the possibility that we may have been gifted this knowledge, and that early human civilization may have been intentionally seated. But by whom? I'm not saying it was aliens, but it could have been aliens. And as I'm sure you've already guessed, when I say aliens, I'm speaking broadly about a non-human or alien intelligence that could have a number of potential origins, whether it be extraterrestrial, ultra-terrestrial, interdimensional, or temporal.

where they came from and who they were is a matter of debate. But there seems to be no way around the fact that at some point in the distant past, humans were helped by a very advanced and intelligent someone. It would explain the sudden emergence of mathematics, science, and high civilization long before such things ought to have been possible. It would explain how these advanced megalithic civilizations seem to continually spring out of nothingness and into the high, height of their power, only to slowly degrade over time, each new iteration, a copy of a copy of a copy, until its original glory is lost. It would explain the seemingly impossible megalithic sites, like Pumapunku, where the stones are cut too perfectly, and Balbeck, where the stones are far too big. It could even explain an advanced technological paradigm that is fundamentally different than the one

in which we currently live, and which seem to exist without the vast networks of infrastructure and resources that are required to support technology in our modern world. And perhaps most tellingly, it would explain the eerily similar myths, legends, and religious texts from around the world, dating back to the oldest records that we have, the tell the tale of powerful beings who came down from the sky and gifted humans with wisdom and built mighty civilizations that they ruled over it for thousands of years. And might it also explain that startling claim made by Tom DeLong about the idea that he believed was responsible for not just gaining his advisor's attention, but gaining entrance into their shadowy world? If you'll recall, DeLong said multiple times in

those early and unguarded 2016-2017 interviews that while it was his pitch that got him in the door with his advisors. It was something else that made them take him seriously. And that was the idea that the UFO phenomenon represents multiple gods with a little G who war with each other and who have for millennia controlled and influenced humanity. Could all of this be true? And if, as Tom DeLong has said, there are those within our government who know about this, take it very seriously, and who recognize that it is related to the UFO phenomenon. What does that mean about, I don't know, everything, reality? Like, seriously, what the fuck? And if I'm being honest, this is where I start to feel like I'm losing it. Because I keep retracing my steps again and again, trying to figure out where I went wrong

to end up with these same conclusions that seem to somehow be both entirely obvious and entirely impossible. And I'm putting all of this out there, knowing that I could be wrong. If you pull the wrong brick out of this game of reality jenga, it would all come crashing down. I accept that, and I am genuinely at peace with it. But I will say this. In many ways, the path that we're taking down the rabbit hole on this podcast mirrors the path that I took. And there's a reason that we've ended up spending so much time on this topic, and why it's taken me over two and a half hours in a series on ancient aliens to get to the point where I'm ready to say that there is significant evidence of intervention by an advanced non-human intelligence in humanity's distant past.

Because this is where I started. And when I first pursued this line of questioning, I fully expected to debunk it and easily. If you go looking for literature and research on UFOs, you'll immediately find that there isn't much to find. And sorting through and weighing the ultimate credibility of what is there is daunting, if not downright impossible. This topic is shrouded in secrecy and insulated by stigma to the point that there is no bedrock of consensus truth. There is no clearly unimpeachable source material. There's not so much as a sticker saying this end up slapped on the side of uphology. But history. Now that was something we had a handle on. And if there truly was a non-human intelligence of some kind that was interfering in human affairs, surely there would be

evidence. And I'm not just talking about myths and legends. I'm not even talking about megalithic stones and whether or not they were too big to lift. All of that can be refuted, and none of that gives enough of a foundation of certainty from which we can begin to build. What I'm talking about is clear evidence that the path of human history has been in some way diverted or guided in ways we can't explain by something bigger than ourselves. And no one was more surprised than me when I found exactly that. And I'd argue that the evidence is overwhelming. If we accept that human civilization emerged as the result of intervention

by a non-human intelligence in the distant past, and that this event is related in some significant way to the UFO phenomenon, this creates an interesting question about the UFO phenomenon, as we experience it today, which is, who is inside the UFOs? Well, the most obvious answer would be that it's the others, whoever they are. Perhaps they are some version of the gods of old, more or less immortal beings with technology so advanced that, even to our modern eyes, it looks more like magic than science. And in episodes 3, 4, and 5, we talked through several different possibilities for who exactly

they might be and where they might have come from. But with the revelation that human civilization could be thousands, if not tens of thousands years older than we previously thought, and with so much evidence pointing to the startling fact that some of our ancient ancestors may have at least been exposed to advanced technology which defies our current understanding, it suggests a profound new possibility. What if some of the UFOs that are being reported in our skies and moving through our oceans belong to humans? Could what we're seeing be explained by some isolated offshoot of humanity that somehow kept the flame of civilization alive across the millennia, and that in so doing

got a technological head start on us of 10,000 years or more? It's a fascinating possibility. But there is one mystery, more than any other, that has turned me inside out and kept me up late into the night until dawn streaks the ceiling. In my mind, the question that matters isn't who built the megaliths or even how they accomplished it. The only question that matters is why? Why would people who were only recently hunter-gatherers, or perhaps still were hunter-gatherers, do this? The scale of these sites and the megaliths that our ancestors cut to raise them is enough to take our breath away, even now. Their symmetry and perfection makes us feel small.

In their presence, we speak in hushed tones. How did people who spend all of their lives in the natural world, a place that, while full of grandeur and unspeakable beauty, is utterly devoid of the right angles, the precision, and the elegant geometry made manifest in these megalithic temples? And we assume them to be temples, or sacred religious sites, even when we have no other evidence for calling them such, because in them we see what can only be called worship. Megaliths are worshipful. We know that in our bones. What did our ancestors see? What did they believe to be true?

What made them strive to defy the very limits of not just human ability, but of our capacity to recognize and create both divine order and transcendent beauty? And where did that capacity come from? When did it arise and how? And what sparked that ember of knowledge? And what fanned that flame to cause the fever of megalithic building that seemed to consume our ancestors in every far-flung corner of the globe? Did the stars call to them? Did gods walk among them? Or perhaps they raised the megaliths because they knew something that those who build skyscrapers have forgotten, that everything is temporary, that the full sweep of human history is but a moat floating in the infinite cosmic wind, and that mighty civilizations can rise and fall, leaving little more than a whisper of their greatness. And that, in the end, only the mighty megaliths remain.

At the center of this story about the dawn of human civilization is another near-forgotten chapter of our history, a devastating global cataclysm in our distant past that nearly extinguished the light of human civilization forever. But what happened 12,000 years ago? And could it happen again? There are a few different theories, none of which is perfect, but all of which are super interesting. So, what are they? As we've discussed, the younger Dryas refers to the last many Ice Age that occurred roughly between 12,900 and 11,600 years ago. There are lots of common misconceptions about ice ages, from what they are to how long they last.

So it's worth taking a minute to understand exactly what we mean when we say ice age. We tend to think of an ice age as one event that lasts for a few thousand years and then ends, but an ice age is actually part of a much longer cycle. An ice age is a long. interval of time, usually spanning millions to tens of millions of years, when global temperatures are relatively cold in large areas of the Earth are covered by continental ice sheets and alpine glaciers. However, within an ice age are multiple shorter-term periods of warmer temperatures

where glaciers retreat, called interglacial cycles, and periods of colder temperatures when the glaciers advance, called glacial cycles. At least five major ice age. ages have occurred throughout Earth's history. The first was over two billion years ago. The most recent one began approximately three million years ago, and technically it continues to this day. What we are experiencing now is one of the interglacial cycles within the larger cycle of the ice age. This interglacial period began about 11,000 years ago with the end of the Younger Dryas. Before that, the last period of glaciation, which is often informally called the ice age, peaked around 20,000 years ago.

As for when the next one will be, we're not actually sure. We know that ice ages are triggered by a variety of complex, geologic, and environmental factors, including changes in oceanic and atmospheric circulation patterns, varying concentrations of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and even volcanic eruptions. We suspect that the current ice age began when the land bridge between North and South America formed,

America formed, ending the exchange of tropical water between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, which significantly altered ocean currents. But with climate change escalating at an increasing and unprecedented rate, it's hard to tell what impact this may have on the coming glacial cycles, making it difficult to impossible for scientists to determine when the next one might occur. However, none of this really helps us understand the younger dryness. Whatever caused the Younger Dryas, it wasn't as simple as changing ocean currents, and the devastation that ensued is evidence of something far more profound. As you'll recall from the previous episode, at the onset of the Younger Dryas, there was a massive worldwide extinction of large mammals weighing over 40 kilograms or 88 pounds.

It is estimated that 82% of these animals disappeared in North America, 74% in South America. 74% in South America, 71% in Australasia, 59% in Europe, 52% in Asia, and 16% in sub-Saharan Africa. This mass extinction event marked the demise of the mammoths, as well as the disappearance of horses in North America, and other species, including bison, deer, and moose, suffered massive population losses. This kind of near-global extinction event is not consistent with the simple onset of an ice age,

which tends to occur gradually. And yet, this is the story that is still embraced by most mainstream academics, that the younger dryest was caused by changes in ocean currents. So what happened? One of the most popular and well-supported theories is that there was some sort of a massive cataclysm, a black swan event of some kind that rapidly and drastically changed the conditions on the planet, leading to a massive die-off of terrestrial mammals. But there is considerable disagreement about what this might have been.

So let's talk about some of the most popular theories. The first is a comet impact. Many studies have shown significant evidence of a major biomass burning event that occurred right at the beginning of the younger dryus. So basically, something happened. that caused so much of the planet to catch on fire that we can literally see it in the geologic record. At sites around the world, we've found a thick black layer, often called the Younger Dryus Boundary, that is consistent with biomass burning right at the depth that would align with the beginning of the younger dryus, emphasizing how widespread this disaster truly was.

In ice course from Greenland, Antarctica, and Russia, we can see drastically, increased dust concentrations, as well as chemical signatures consistent with massive biomass burning. Whatever happened, it left its mark across the globe. For many, the best explanation for this would be a comet impact, whether it be one comet or many pieces of a comet that may have broken apart that struck somewhere in the northern hemisphere, most likely in North America. One study published in the Journal of Geology estimated that as much as 9% of the Earth's terrestrial biomass burned in one devastating event. But after the fires died, things would have

cooled down quickly. The amount of dust and ash in the atmosphere would have blocked out the sun, causing temperatures to plummet, triggering a new ice age. Another possibility, and one that is favored by Dr. Robert Shock, whose work on dating the sphinx we talked about in the last episode, is a solar event. We tend to think of our sun as being constant, and stable, but it's actually anything but. It goes through periods of solar maximums where it's very active and erratic, resulting in more activity like sunspots and sunflares about every 11 years. We're generally protected from this sort of activity by the electromagnetic field that surrounds the earth. But like our sun, this field also goes through cycles where it's sometimes stronger and sometimes

weaker. Without getting two in the weeds, it could be that a particularly violent solar maximum could have coincided with the weakening of the electromagnetic field around the earth, which could have caused massive electrical storms and allowed deadly cosmic rays and radiation to reach the earth. This could also account for much of the same evidence as a comet strike. And to be honest, I don't think that I have a firm enough grasp on the complex geoclimatological factors involved to give an opinion one way or another. Suffice it to say, the evidence of the younger Dryas was initiated by a devastating burning event is overwhelming, but what caused it is still a matter of some debate to be settled by people much smarter than myself. However, there is another set of much

more bizarre theories about not just the cataclysm that occurred at the onset of the younger dryness, but a long cycle of cataclysms that have occurred on this planet. And bizarre though they may be, I promise if you hear me out, I'll make the case for why this is worth your consideration. So let's look at the evidence. When we look at the earliest stories and myths in cultures around the world, we find one story that appears again and again, which is that of a great flood. Much like Noah's flood in the Bible, these stories tend to follow a common course. There is a great flood that is sent by one or more of the gods to destroy the earth. Only a handful of people are saved, usually by some kind of warning or divine

intervention, and after the flood, the survivors repopulate the earth. And because of the ubiquity of this story, there are many who argue that it must have been a flood that was to blame for the near erasure of whatever human civilization existed before the younger dryus. And I will say that through this process, one thing that I truly didn't expect, but that has been impressed upon me by the evidence again and again, is that I don't think we give nearly enough attention to ancient myths and legends when it comes to understanding our distant past. I'm not suggesting that we should treat these as historical records, but we shouldn't dismiss what they have to say out of hand either. Stories that were important enough to pass down through the ages,

to record in the pages of our religious texts, and to literally chisel into the stone walls of megalithic temples, were important to people for a reason. They may or may not convey literal truth, but they do reveal something about the people telling the story. And at the very least, I don't think it's crazy to argue that the fact that this story of a massive flood that nearly wiped out humanity shows up in cultures around the world following a nearly identical narrative arc suggests some sort of shared experience or awareness

on the part of our ancestors. Let's stop for a minute and just say for the sake of argument that a massive global flood did happen in the distant past. Wouldn't we expect to see exactly what we're seeing, wouldn't we expect it to be recorded in myth and legend across cultures? Now, of course, that doesn't prove anything, and it doesn't really help us to overcome the most obvious and logical refutation of the reality of the Great Flood, which is that, as far as we know, a global flood on a scale that could nearly wipe out humanity doesn't seem like it

should be possible. In the myths, the flood was usually caused by one or more deities, but if If we're looking for an actual known non-supernatural mechanism by which a flood of this scale could have happened, we come up short. We're familiar with how floods happen, but they tend to be regional and wouldn't explain the global impact that the stories point to. We're even familiar with rising sea levels and how entire cities in low-lying coastal areas can end up underwater due to climate change. But looking at our modern-day situation, even the most catastrophic estimates for sea level rise by the year 2100 are at about, eight feet, which, don't get me wrong, would be absolutely devastating, but it wouldn't happen overnight. It wouldn't be the great deluge described by our ancestors. So if the great flood was real, is there anything that could possibly explain it? There just might be. And one theory describing

this bizarre cataclysm found an unlikely proponent in one of the great minds of his or any time, Albert Einstein. Due to the scope and impact of his work in the world of physics, most people don't realize that Albert Einstein also had a considerable interest in the Earth sciences. It made important contributions in that field as well. In particular, he did some important work in the area of fluvial geomorphology, which is the study of landforms and processes associated with rivers. Einstein was the first to articulate how helical flow,

helps determined meander length and promotes down current migration of the meandering rivers. So basically, it was a model for how rivers form and cut their path across a landscape. Einstein was also very interested in emerging theories of the time,

including Charles Hapgood's ideas about crust displacement. What Hapgood proposed was that the uneven distribution of weight caused by an accumulation of ice around the Earth's poles could, at times, cause the Earth's crust to slip dramatically on its mantle by as much as 30 degrees. The impact of such

an event would be absolutely catastrophic and would result in everything from volcanic eruptions to massive flash floods worldwide. It would also cause the poles to change position as the land that used to be over the poles would be shifted thousands of miles away. Hapgood presented extensive climatological research that he claimed, and which Einstein agreed, supported his hypothesis that global patterns of climate change over the past 100,000 years could be the result of displacements of the Earth's crust and corresponding shifts of the geographic poles. In modeling the data, he proposed that three geographic pole shifts had occurred over the past 100,000 years. According to Habgood, approximately 100,000 years ago,

the North Pole was in the Yukon. Then around 75,000 years ago, it shifted to a spot between Iceland and Norway. Around 50,000 years ago, it shifted from there to the Hudson Bay. And then finally, sometime around 12,000 years ago, it shifted to its current location. And there's that 12,000 years ago date again. Now, the mainstream scientific stance is that this is impossible and that the shifting of the poles does happen, but very slowly, approximately 30 degrees over the past 200 million years. And I honestly hope that they're right on this one, because I frankly find this idea to be terrifying. Einstein, however, was super into it. Over the last couple years of his life, Einstein maintained an ongoing correspondence with Habgood about his ideas and was very

encouraging of his efforts. And while he did eventually convince Habgood that the weight of polar ice wouldn't be sufficient to shift the Earth's crust, he was compelled by the evidence that the polls had, somehow, shifted dramatically. Einstein was such a fan of Hapgood's work that he actually wrote the foreword to his book, Earth's shifting crust. And when Einstein passed away, it was that very same book that still sat open on his desk. But it wasn't just Hapgood, whose work caught Einstein's attention.

And even more bombastic theory about cyclical global cataclysms was put forth by a man named Emmanuel Velikovsky in 1940 in his book, Worlds and Collision. Velikovsky compared numerous natural disasters in the Bible and other ancient texts, and based on that, he proposed the following truly wild scenario. According to Velikovsky, at some point in the past, Jupiter somehow burnt out a comet that then fell toward the sun in a long elliptical orbit. As it went past Mars, it pulled it out of its orbit and also yanked off its atmosphere. It then passed the Earth, causing a series of catastrophes, which repeated approximately every 52 years,

as it made its long orbit around the sun, before eventually settling into orbit between Mercury and the Earth, becoming the planet we now know is Venus. Now, I'm sure I don't need to tell any of you that there is literally nothing in all of science that would support that. The entire thing is absurd and impossible for a multitude of reasons that a fifth grader could likely point out. So why was Albert Einstein wasting his time on these crazy ideas? Well, from what we find in the record of correspondence between the two men, Einstein believed that there was at least part of his idea that had merit. He wrote the following in a letter to Velikovsky about his book. I have read the whole book about the planet Venus. There is much of

interest in the book, which proves that, in fact, catastrophes have taken place, which must be attributed to extraterrestrial causes. However, it is evident to every sensible physicist that these catastrophes can have nothing to do with the planet Venus. Your arguments in this regard are so weak as opposed to the mechanical astronomical ones that no expert will be able to take them seriously. It were best, in my opinion, if you would in this way revise your books, which contained truly valuable material. If you cannot decide on this, then what is valuable in your deliberations will become ineffective, and it may be difficult finding a sensible publisher who would take the risk of such a heavy fiasco upon himself. Or, as he said more succinctly in a later letter regarding

Velikovsky's work, I can say, in short, catastrophes yes, Venus, no. Einstein's rather direct feedback didn't seem to have a negative impact on his relationship with Velikovsky, and Einstein continued to encourage him in his work through their nine-year correspondence. So what becomes clear is that although Einstein wasn't compelled by their explanations for the exact mechanisms of how these cataclysms occurred, he was convinced by the work of both men surrounding the reality of cyclical global cataclysms in our distant past. Now grant it, Just because he was one of the greatest thinkers in human history doesn't mean that Einstein was infallible. And just because he took an interest in the topic doesn't mean that it's necessarily true.

But it is interesting. And Einstein isn't the only notable to have taken an interest in this idea. The CIA has actually shown an interest as well. In 2013, among a massive dump of newly declassified CIA files was something very strange. a sanitized version of a book called The Story of Adam and Eve. This book was written in 1966 by a former U.S. Air Force employee named Chan Thomas. But before the book was released, it was seized, banned, and classified by the CIA. The original book was allegedly over 200 pages, but only 57 pages remain in the sanitized version that was released in 2013.

So what could this book possibly say that would make the CIA take such an interest and go to such great lengths to keep the public from reading it? I've read the declassified version, and I've got to tell you, it's more than a little perplexing. The book describes a series of disasters that have occurred on the planet at intervals of approximately every 7,000 years. These disasters are caused by the Earth's crust becoming unbalanced and slipping along the mantle, much like in the crust displacement theory. But this is on another level. Instead of the crust slipping 30 degrees or so, the story of Adam and Eve describes a scenario in which the poles would swing basically all the way down to the equator in a matter of hours. According to the

book, when this happens, the oceans and atmosphere continue to spin in the direction that they always have, while the crust moves independently. This causes catastrophic. 1,000 mile per hour winds, and even more disturbingly, the oceans continue their journey west to east with the spinning of the earth, while the crust is jerked north to south, which, according to the book, would cause a massive two-mile high wave. In the U.S., this wave would start on the west coast and move east across the entire continent, covering it in over a mile of water in under three hours. This wave would circumnavigate the globe several times and would take. take up to a week to settle back down into its original resting place, having completely decimated and resurfaced the globe in the process. The book makes other eyebrow-raising claims, which run the gamut

from an argument that the book of Genesis doesn't describe the creation of the planet, but rather the seven days that it took for the oceans to stop sloshing around and the skies to clear after the last cataclysm, to the idea that Jesus spent the missing years of his early life in India. I really don't know what to make of any of this, but it does raise some interesting questions. First of all, why did the CIA classify this book in the first place? It's hard to know because they took out all the parts that are still classified, and what we are left with are the parts that were allowed to read. But the general thrust of the book seems to be focused on these recurring geological cataclysms,

and their historical and spiritual tie to the history and development of humanity. So the missing pages are almost certainly related to that idea in some way. But the thing is, none of that is new. Even back when the book was originally supposed to be published in 1966, this idea wasn't new. Hapgood's book, Earth's Shifting Crest, had already been out for almost a decade. And in the decade since, countless books have been written putting forward similar hypotheses. And none of those have been banned. So what was different about this book?

Second of all, why was the CIA even paying attention to this? Chan Thomas was allegedly a former Air Force employee, but it's unclear, at least from my research, what his job was, but he wasn't in the service. He had a degree in electrical engineering from Dartmouth, but he spent most of his career positioning himself as the world's leading authority in the field of cataclysmic geology and claimed to have accurately predicted a number of earthquakes. And most of his message seemed to be apocalyptic. focusing on the idea that the last time this cataclysm supposedly occurred was 6,500 years ago,

and that were due for another one basically any minute. But once again, none of this is new or different. Each new decade brings a new crop of new age prophets who come bearing overly grandiose claims about their own abilities and dire apocalyptic predictions for the future of humanity. I mean, no shade intended, but that's like half the shows on Gaia. So once again, why do they care about this book and this author, and why risk legitimizing something by classifying it when they could have just let it slowly drift into obscurity, collecting dust in basements and used bookstores?

Why was this on their radar? Why pay attention to it at all? I don't have those answers, and I in no way mean to suggest that this oddball little book that was declassified by the CIA proves anything about either the reality or the nature of cyclical planet-wide cataclysms. After all, that seems to be the bulk of the parts that they left in the declassified version. But it seems clear that the CIA,

at least in the 1960s, saw this information as potentially being a threat to our national security. And that is interesting. But there's one more piece of evidence that, to be honest, blew my mind completely. So we know that megalithic structures

were almost always built in alignment with the cardinal directions or significant astronomical events like the solstice. And in many places, these alignments are done with a level of precision that humanity wouldn't be able to replicate for thousands of years. But strangely, this doesn't apply to all megalithic structures. In certain places, particularly in South America, Mesoamerica, and Egypt, the alignments are slightly off at certain sites. Why would these alignments be so important in some cases, but not in others. A study was done by author and scientist Mark J. Carlotto that looked at 200 megalithic sites around the world and found that almost half of them couldn't be explained in terms of

traditional alignments. But remember our old friend Charles Hapgood in his theory that the polls shifted dramatically three times over the past 100,000 years? Carlotto hypothesized that the alignments of these sites might correspond to Hapgood's proposed poll locations. Taking the group of unexplained sites, he developed an algorithm that would generate a best-fit model for the locations of the poles they were aligned to, and the model is shockingly close to what Habgood proposed. Both Habgood and Carlotto predicted that the most recent poll before our current one was in the Hudson Bay, and they're only 200 miles apart from each other. Carlotto's model predicted a pole in Greenland that was immediately preceded by a pole in the Norwegian Sea, and Habgood's Iceland. Norway pole is 1,250 miles away from the former, and 300 miles away from the latter. And finally, Carlotto predicted a pole in the Bering Strait that is about 1,500 miles from

Hapgood's pole in the Yukon. It's not exact, but it's pretty close. So if we take for granted for a moment that Carlotto is correct and that the alignment of these megalithic structures confirms Hapgood's poles and his general thesis, then we are able to attach a general time period, to the structures that are aligned to each of these poles. And when we do this, what do we find? Well, not surprisingly, we find that the majority of the megalithic sites on the planet aligned to our current pole, including the pyramids of Giza and the Delphi amphitheater in Greece.

However, certain sites such as Puma Punku, Tijuanau, Balbeck, the Western Wall in Jerusalem, and Tenoctiqlan in Mexico, are aligned to the Greenland Pole, which, according to Hapgood's climate data, would make them at least 50,000 years old, or around the same age as the sunken city in Cuba. And shockingly, there are a number of sites that align to the Bering Sea Pole, and interestingly, a disproportionate amount of those sites are in Peru.

And among them are the sites whose foundations of massively cut and precisely placed megaliths we discussed earlier that were built upon again and again, without ever coming close to matching their former glory, including Cori Concha and the Temple of the Three Windows at Machu Picchu. And these sites, which feature some of the most precisely cut megaliths known to us, may also be the oldest. If Hapgood and Carlados' hypotheses are correct,

these sites would be at least 100,000 years old. Now listen, I find the fact that both Hapgood's climate data and the alignment of anomalous megalithic sites both point to the same general locations for these alternate pole sites to be pretty damn compelling. However, I'm not sure that I'm 100% willing to accept them. It's clear that we've undershot the dawn of human civilization

by a few thousand years. But 100,000 years, that presents a whole new set of problems and mysteries. First of all, as far as we know, there shouldn't even have been humans in the Americas 100,000 years ago. It was previously estimated that humans first arrived in North America around 15,000 to 20,000 years ago by crossing a land bridge in the spot where the Bering Strait is now between modern-day Russia and Alaska. And although recent findings have pushed that date back to 30,000 years, there's still a 70,000-year gap to account for.

And it's not just the timeline that presents an issue. There's also the location. there are few places in the Americas that you could go that would be further than Peru is from the Bering Strait and still be in the Americas. So if somehow there was a human civilization in Peru 100,000 years ago, it calls that entire migration story where they started in the north and moved to the south into question.

But if our human ancestors didn't walk across the land bridge to America, how would they have gotten to South America in the first place? By boat seems like the most obvious answer, until you consider just how vast the Pacific Ocean is. The distance from Peru to Australia is 15,000 miles, or more than half of the circumference of the Earth. To say that would be surprising would be a massive understatement. And it wouldn't just throw the story of how humans came to the Americas into question, but also everything we think we know about the migration of anatomically modern humans out of Africa and across the continents. And even if we were somehow able to gather enough evidence to justify that dramatic rewrite of human history,

we're still left with the most glaring and inescapable problem. How would a high civilization capable of the astounding mechalithic stonework that we see at these sites in Peru possibly have arisen 40,000 years before the earliest cave paintings that we've found? It just doesn't make sense. It's simply not possible. What if it wasn't a human civilization? It's a wild thought, but it isn't a crazy one. The admission by the Pentagon, the declassified videos, the rising bipartisan demand from Congress that they be given access to data surrounding what is clearly a credible national security threat, Tom DeLong's high-level government advisors that were confirmed by the WikiLeaks Podesta emails,

and the growing number of highly credible people from our military and intelligence agencies, as well as private aerospace companies that are coming forward to say that the UFO phenomenon is real and we need to take it seriously. All of these things point to one stunning conclusion that there is a highly advanced non-human presence on this planet right now. And that profound, and at this point entirely unavoidable fact, means that it is entirely likely that it's happened in the past as well. And we should be willing to at least consider what that might mean for the story of humanity on this planet. You know, or not. All of this is very fun and very interesting to talk about, and I haven't made a secret of the fact that I find the evidence to be quite compelling. But if you still aren't convinced, that's totally fine. I respect that.

But the good news is that even if these arguments for non-human intervention in humanity's distant past have not swayed you, Our time here was still not wasted. We'll actually need all of this to help lay the foundation for what's to come. What these last three episodes have given you is the basic skeleton of the esoteric tradition. So what do I mean by that? According to the Google, ancient esoteric tradition is a modern scholarly term, useful for designating currents in Hellenistic and late antique Mediterranean culture that are concerned with the mediation of some kind of absolute knowledge

via a dialectic of secrecy, concealment, and revelation. In more straightforward terms, there is a collection of beliefs that we tend to categorize as the occult that are rooted in the belief in some kind of an ancient knowledge and ultimate truth that was entrusted to a select group of scholars and intellectuals. The ancient Egyptians, and then later the Greeks and the Romans, referred to these as the mystery schools, and their initiates include some of the greatest thinkers of the ancient world,

like Aristotle, Socrates, and Plato. In our modern day world, we have the Freemasons and other secretive societies that are the direct descendants of this tradition. So you don't mean to believe any of this, the mysterious origins of human civilization, guidance and revelation from the gods or some other non-human intelligence, or the idea that our ancestors had exposure to highly advanced ideas and technologies in our distant past. But you do need to understand that throughout the last several,

thousand years. There have been many people who do believe something along those lines. And the search for that ancient knowledge has been the driving force behind some of the most significant events in human history, from the Crusades to our exploration of space. So that's where we'll pick up next time. With the story of how a renewed interest in these ancient mysteries led to a pagan spiritual awakening in Germany in the early 20th century, and subsequently to two of the most important events, not just of the last century, but in all of human history. The rise of Nazi Germany and the moon landing. I'll see you then.