INSOMNIO - EMBRUJOS - Invitado: PACO ARIAS INSOMNIO #24

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Very good days, tards, or noches, welcome to a new chapter of insomnia, in where we
Starting point is 00:00:08 going to narrate the most extraordinary and terrorificas, experiences reales of the audience
Starting point is 00:00:14 that are enviedas at the coo so so can't listen them if they
Starting point is 00:00:21 tryven. This night, well, this day or this day or we, we have a
Starting point is 00:00:25 inviteazzo of super luco and it was too in an occasion with we can we can't say,
Starting point is 00:00:32 the profession, a grand relator of stories reales that have to be with the phenomena that's
Starting point is 00:00:39 normal. How are you? Hello, Ppo. How are you? Well, you are good. I'm doing,
Starting point is 00:00:45 I'm doing some things that's that I'm sure that your audience. Do you don't you
Starting point is 00:00:51 think that in this occasion are the time? H'ol'le. Like, more to
Starting point is 00:00:56 a, to your style. Yes, so, so, so, so,
Starting point is 00:01:02 Depending on how is the history, we're we're going to we're actually, and the
Starting point is 00:01:07 factories. And, of the one of the thing I'm sure that I'm to say, to do that
Starting point is 00:01:14 your audience, there's a little about the capitul with the children that's
Starting point is 00:01:21 not is recommendable. That's. So, is. I'm here. Let's let's, we're going,
Starting point is 00:01:31 more or less or less we're going to to say but before this before this we can't say for for a little
Starting point is 00:01:40 or a despistada that you know to you know to do you do you do you do you thank you
Starting point is 00:01:46 thank you I'm I'm a podcast extra anormal you can you can get podcast extra abnormal
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Starting point is 00:01:58 we can't we're to the week. Lune's, Wednesday, we're doing in-vibu. When we're
Starting point is 00:02:04 on in-vibu, when you're there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:09 you know, you know, if you do you put them, in where they're listening, seeing,
Starting point is 00:02:15 this, this, we're doing the radio social, so, so, that's,
Starting point is 00:02:19 to be, to do you, to do this other and there, me going to be in the gul. H'h, yeah,
Starting point is 00:02:27 they're going to be a fepo, a little incoomodo. I thought I thought that I thought never
Starting point is 00:02:32 to be a little no I don't know like I'm like I'm like the next thing
Starting point is 00:02:37 yeah yeah more yeah more yeah more yeah more yeah
Starting point is 00:02:40 so much thank Paco there there's a there there there
Starting point is 00:02:46 there there many things of the phenomena yeah of the
Starting point is 00:02:50 mystery no paranormal and and and and just
Starting point is 00:02:53 the thing of the phenomenon of there many
Starting point is 00:02:56 there And, like, distinct ramas of these phenomena that are very interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:02 There's one that maybe for the manner of the way of that's developed
Starting point is 00:03:06 in Latin America, the people they have much to be a victim of a
Starting point is 00:03:15 a bruja or an enbruch or a true. Today we're going to talk,
Starting point is 00:03:21 we're to talk about stories of it's a Paco very good I'm I'm gonna you know
Starting point is 00:03:29 I'm gonna let's this stuff about it we're gonna let's a let me let me
Starting point is 00:03:35 tell you're gonna there's a there's there's some things yeah and we understand
Starting point is 00:03:40 the why they're in these things when when we're we're gonna we're gonna we're just
Starting point is 00:03:47 we're certain things that they're I'm gonna say to plantas that's
Starting point is 00:03:50 repit for certain the people that at the people not not very involved
Starting point is 00:03:55 and say oh why salem clavos. Ah, because it's a job of death. Oh, but why this animal?
Starting point is 00:04:01 Ah, is a job of a problem. Oh, yeah, but why? So, if there's a relation of
Starting point is 00:04:05 these elements. This is a story 100% real and for a certain anonymous. We've
Starting point is 00:04:13 changed the numbers of the persons for that we don't have problems, no?
Starting point is 00:04:19 At the moment of the story and we we have the permission to do.
Starting point is 00:04:24 We're We're talking of an history that's the altar of the vengance. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:30 This is like our preamble. When we're going to be the entry to this program.
Starting point is 00:04:34 It's a story, I'll repeat. Although an anonymous, we know, internally in insomnia,
Starting point is 00:04:41 that is a story real. Perfect. It's a story really. It's a person that
Starting point is 00:04:48 has narrated this series of events, us piviered that we mantubiarmat, and us says, this story no past,
Starting point is 00:04:57 I don't the experimented I, but if it occurred in my nuclear family. Specifically to her
Starting point is 00:05:04 cunia, Alisi, who had in that then, in the middle of 25, and the major
Starting point is 00:05:14 of 26 years, all the women. In the year 2009, there where they
Starting point is 00:05:20 were where these people, it's a new a new recina to live at the house of this person, Alicia, her poignada. It was a woman
Starting point is 00:05:33 a quite major. It was a person of the third age that in that in that moment, more or less than you were in those 80 years. They were, well, quite major. This senior was very tranquil.
Starting point is 00:05:47 No, I'd try to not entablant a misdust of nobody, was like submerged in his things of
Starting point is 00:05:52 day to day to be in but the time when they would be going to and I'm going to
Starting point is 00:05:58 and I'm a little that's a little that's going to go to the market
Starting point is 00:06:02 and I went to and I did it that's a part of this is that after that this
Starting point is 00:06:08 year of 80 years in the house at the house the house comes
Starting point is 00:06:12 to a or rare these those all rare
Starting point is 00:06:18 and like like like like in occasions like umo but it notorious that's the
Starting point is 00:06:28 allure that was that said in some the people including
Starting point is 00:06:33 for the excuse to she said that she saw to this senior this senior major
Starting point is 00:06:38 with sack with boxes with bolz of the basura that
Starting point is 00:06:45 they were they were they didn't in these bolsas there were gats,
Starting point is 00:06:53 gals, and even in some occasions, perros, animals mortals. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:07:03 then it starts, to, you know, to get to his people,
Starting point is 00:07:08 especially to the person, the senior Alicia. Come back to get to get
Starting point is 00:07:12 to get to this situation. And, and not know how to
Starting point is 00:07:15 confront this situation, does something that maybe maybe have done.
Starting point is 00:07:20 In the other to talk to talk to be to be in
Starting point is 00:07:23 a question to be to get to say she's she and he
Starting point is 00:07:30 was a he was he said to say things but but
Starting point is 00:07:35 so she was she never he then when I saw
Starting point is 00:07:42 he he coming and she was a mugrient brogue
Starting point is 00:07:48 askeeros and, more things despective the woman anciano
Starting point is 00:07:55 she was to be to make you know, you know you don't you know I've done
Starting point is 00:08:03 but well the insults you've been escalated at the point of the agressions
Starting point is 00:08:07 to the impuconcito in the car one one they
Starting point is 00:08:11 they're never and this senior Alicia the the
Starting point is 00:08:15 cona of who us redata the history, he's going to insult to this woman, she'll start, insult, and insults, and insult, and the anciana, that's sentia,
Starting point is 00:08:25 obviously, superada, no, for the youthitude of this woman, the time and all, it was very molesta of that he was insulting, no? And in a rancke of ira,
Starting point is 00:08:34 he scupe to the end. And this woman, enter in cholera. When I see that they've been that's cupied
Starting point is 00:08:43 the foot, and it's On the same, gollbes. He does two boffetadas and start to
Starting point is 00:08:50 halone her and she does it obviously there's a really a yeah, is a
Starting point is 00:08:56 pretty, he's playing a a woman a major. The people, obviously like,
Starting point is 00:09:01 hey, yeah, let's do you know, and then nobody wanted that that woman
Starting point is 00:09:04 because was her was her because, let her let's let's and in a
Starting point is 00:09:08 moment and you in a moment, then they were and the and the
Starting point is 00:09:12 Anciana, Stavey, herida, with blood in the mouth, dispeinated, jolone,
Starting point is 00:09:20 assusated. And she he said, What you have done today, you and your kids
Starting point is 00:09:31 will be your life. Look at me me, remember to me, maldita. The
Starting point is 00:09:41 Cunia satisfied with what he had done, he started to and he said, maldita
Starting point is 00:09:48 a year, first you you're you, and we're you're not what you're to know
Starting point is 00:09:55 what you're the consequences probably of what he did this Anciano okay although
Starting point is 00:10:04 it's extraordinary I'm repito this story is 100 real three days after this
Starting point is 00:10:11 incident in the the street, where the maldijo to his his
Starting point is 00:10:16 minor, the of 21 years, he diagnostica a tumor cerebral malignant. At the
Starting point is 00:10:26 moment, he was two months in the hospital. Yeah. And fallacy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:33 At the day the next to a his more little,
Starting point is 00:10:38 the second, Carolina, of 25 years, that a punalada 48
Starting point is 00:10:46 times for her her his his his after the
Starting point is 00:11:16 of a repente, paro cardiac and fallece. She, Alicia, she gave a point of
Starting point is 00:11:27 that something had had been so, he said, that the murder to be
Starting point is 00:11:33 to be to be to the house, now she's she's only, but no.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Moralment was disminued and little to start bad physically
Starting point is 00:11:47 was just like a a sack of wess, Triste, deprimed and he's a medical because
Starting point is 00:12:00 he's well, he diagnostics cancer and finally after after to suffer
Starting point is 00:12:07 much in the hospital falle we say this person this this amiga that the
Starting point is 00:12:17 history well in the family obviously is about so that is about was true?
Starting point is 00:12:23 Sure. A series of casualties extraordinary. And she went to the house where they were
Starting point is 00:12:31 her co-na and his three and they were to clean. Of a repented
Starting point is 00:12:39 he saw and he saw that the be the next this she was
Starting point is 00:12:46 was not taking one of these bols that were some
Starting point is 00:12:50 strange of the many was a bulte of rob. And she
Starting point is 00:12:58 also she did. No, they said, no said, this she was moving
Starting point is 00:13:06 to the house. After of all what committed, the people, that
Starting point is 00:13:10 was the people, that was a, um, to be a a bruce,
Starting point is 00:13:15 now they had been a fear. And they were so they're so
Starting point is 00:13:21 they're s'inoras was moving. She went and I think in that interchamble
Starting point is 00:13:27 of the time, no she did know that he was the door of the
Starting point is 00:13:32 house open. Nesta my friend had a fear but more curiosity
Starting point is 00:13:39 so he decided to enter to the house of this
Starting point is 00:13:42 woman. He said that one he's he's he not he
Starting point is 00:13:46 the the the the people were a old
Starting point is 00:13:50 catre a lot of bells black, for all the
Starting point is 00:13:55 does that the aroma of the house was horrible to be every every every
Starting point is 00:14:00 corner but he not he there was a little the front of
Starting point is 00:14:07 a front of a which also also also took a
Starting point is 00:14:12 value he was there was there was there
Starting point is 00:14:15 and there he he he encountered some spantoso.
Starting point is 00:14:20 An altar of a brujery oscura with the photos of his sobriens and the
Starting point is 00:14:26 of her co-cunada over a tross of a piece of the black
Starting point is 00:14:32 and around bellas negas. Termina saying us something we can't think
Starting point is 00:14:41 that is a casual or not no? No, we can't we can't just
Starting point is 00:14:46 with the leges existent But something But something So, his cunea
Starting point is 00:14:54 He defied Forces He no He gave a Pugue Pucked A price very Alta
Starting point is 00:15:00 Wow I I think There's that That's that type of Brugheria Pepo
Starting point is 00:15:07 That you can affect to To be affect to To your Ceres Quereido But
Starting point is 00:15:15 are in those others that transcenden to more generations.
Starting point is 00:15:19 That's and that is one of the titles that you're that I want to be
Starting point is 00:15:26 to be a new generational. It's a new and it's one of the stories
Starting point is 00:15:34 that I think define very very well that that that
Starting point is 00:15:38 that they're that that they're not no cesta
Starting point is 00:15:43 of a person to to to He wants destruction over all the generation that's all the third
Starting point is 00:15:53 to the fourth, the fifth, the sixth, until where gets the odio and the maldda of the men.
Starting point is 00:16:00 This story knows she tells, as she Herrera, she is originary of a ranchito
Starting point is 00:16:06 of Sacatecas, a place a little where the stories cobran much sense. A place
Starting point is 00:16:12 full of much mysticism, yet of much practices, and a place, about where where to
Starting point is 00:16:18 where we're not it's not a question is to be really really
Starting point is 00:16:23 of a issue and the thing very, very serious. There's places
Starting point is 00:16:28 where even there people that take some precautions and
Starting point is 00:16:33 situations and I think that I'm sure that other more that sound
Starting point is 00:16:39 something that's a story is real is very real. The suede
Starting point is 00:16:43 a Tia-Emana of her mother. This So, when they had
Starting point is 00:16:47 between 18, 19 years, approximately. They were in this town, where,
Starting point is 00:16:54 well, usually is very little. Her Tia, was a woman
Starting point is 00:16:59 was a woman, a woman that was a woman that was a lot of
Starting point is 00:17:03 that's very about the women, a woman very great, a
Starting point is 00:17:10 child, and you could be sometimes had many many pretendients. And
Starting point is 00:17:15 this Causable many sentiments between the other people. Everything was normal in
Starting point is 00:17:22 your life, man. Everything was normal in his life. This woman, this young,
Starting point is 00:17:27 was very accustomed to receive many lot of many ralges, and the thing of the
Starting point is 00:17:33 things is a thing very important and very interesting and aparted and I
Starting point is 00:17:38 had many many people that were always that was always to be
Starting point is 00:17:45 a a and he started something that was normal he was he started
Starting point is 00:17:53 a part of his body of a part of the can be an insect can be what we call what we call
Starting point is 00:18:02 some bichitos, that's they are very odosos. But at a couple of hours this woman was rascaring the
Starting point is 00:18:07 person with a desperation to do to damage your own own own Rostro,
Starting point is 00:18:14 Spald, Piernas, brazos. It was a desperation that there had a piece of
Starting point is 00:18:21 their in their things. The rarer is that no cess it was a man.
Starting point is 00:18:28 It's one thing when you start and it on other parts of your
Starting point is 00:18:32 body to have this sensation to continue rasking there
Starting point is 00:18:36 there there there and that's just a part of
Starting point is 00:18:41 this was much a time. At the couple of other
Starting point is 00:18:45 hours, the body and the person was being done of some some pothias and that
Starting point is 00:18:52 a extrano liquid. This was in just only one of hours. When
Starting point is 00:18:58 this advance that this event the family decided to get to this
Starting point is 00:19:02 woman to a young to a hospital to to some
Starting point is 00:19:06 because really really was there was there was
Starting point is 00:19:11 I think that part, for me, is very important because us show how advanced something, but repentinam, not, no, no, no, no, you know, is it's going to be able to be able to do something of insect or something that had contraged in an air. The rarer is that he's also to feel very devil with much of the head. They're going to the doctor, they're
Starting point is 00:19:34 They were they're going to make to do you, they're going to do some analysis. The diagnosis was penfigoid amplyar. Something that, well, could sound as a little obvious of what he had, but in a situation that, to really, all the family
Starting point is 00:19:49 was having a lot of strangeness. It was, after the, the body of being a rathouse was that it had that had quenadures very fertes
Starting point is 00:19:59 for all sides. The body was started to infestar of ampollas, but over all the area most affected
Starting point is 00:20:06 was the rostro. I think many perhaps think what is what is what
Starting point is 00:20:13 is going in this moment. She passed much time hospitalized and
Starting point is 00:20:18 there there there was there's some complications in this process that
Starting point is 00:20:22 were that was she was that probably because they were they were
Starting point is 00:20:27 they were not they were not they were so when started
Starting point is 00:20:32 all So, and there's things very rare. And always
Starting point is 00:20:36 get a person that we'll know the people. They're
Starting point is 00:20:41 people and they say to the mom of this young, what
Starting point is 00:20:45 is what you is going to get to chica to a
Starting point is 00:20:50 curandera of the people. She she could help
Starting point is 00:20:53 to help they're so they're so they're that
Starting point is 00:20:57 they're saying they're doing see that of a repent no
Starting point is 00:21:04 there was a very because she was a and I'm a lot of and that's
Starting point is 00:21:10 a symptom of important of certain certain work and when they're
Starting point is 00:21:15 to get to this young with this women, these limpinges where they
Starting point is 00:21:22 were making things that's quite and they not they not
Starting point is 00:21:26 even a much a much better better she was
Starting point is 00:21:30 she was was better constantly but there was a little and it was a
Starting point is 00:21:34 very important the work final when this family they're what is
Starting point is 00:21:41 what is what is what is what is happening there there is a bit of
Starting point is 00:21:47 skepticism because not they could think that someone he could
Starting point is 00:21:51 be to be to a person to a young that
Starting point is 00:21:55 not a young a young that Even surprisingly, even when they were to visit them,
Starting point is 00:22:01 they'd even even get them even given they'd even though. It's not, you know, construction very important. Fault to a second a manoeck
Starting point is 00:22:32 that's in your house. I'm going to be to make a madrugada that no the house is a
Starting point is 00:22:39 and only we're to occupy the help the help of the people who are going to help
Starting point is 00:22:44 to scabar and to get that work of their they're a little
Starting point is 00:22:51 septic to be that they they were in this in this woman, in this
Starting point is 00:22:55 young, not assimilable that someone he could do a person innocent.
Starting point is 00:23:04 They were and they started a type of ritual a requisite important
Starting point is 00:23:09 in the men, is that in his hand they had to a rosario
Starting point is 00:23:15 rocyed in water in the water to be some type of malifix
Starting point is 00:23:19 or rebote over the It was, and it's all the day, all the
Starting point is 00:23:23 people were prepared to start the busk of this work of this man
Starting point is 00:23:30 received an indication very important and is that all the that they were, they were
Starting point is 00:23:37 they were, not they don't to be to be to be all to do
Starting point is 00:23:42 to do all impossible for to care to they
Starting point is 00:23:46 they're they started in a part that they Indicant and
Starting point is 00:23:52 They're To scabar While this woman Seems to Resting But it In a
Starting point is 00:23:58 language In a language And They're There's Things During this process
Starting point is 00:24:04 That they They They were They're They're They're In front To
Starting point is 00:24:10 Inpeer Even Even They're They're Like if There a
Starting point is 00:24:13 force major That not They They're They They
Starting point is 00:24:16 When They're a point, receive an indication. It's the order to par. There are you. There are to start. To move a little to the earth and look
Starting point is 00:24:27 because there is the job. What you saw, was totally horrible, and no excuse for those that are eating in this moment. I'd wish a good
Starting point is 00:24:36 probecho. They've got this work, made a trap in a muke, and in his body, he had had been
Starting point is 00:24:45 a piece of in the the rostro, in the back, in the abdomen, in the
Starting point is 00:24:51 feet, in the cover completely the areas where this woman had those attacks
Starting point is 00:24:58 of the attackes of the moment, this woman, this woman, decide to get to
Starting point is 00:25:04 the work and destroy it. From that day, this young began to
Starting point is 00:25:11 have a a greationate. The medication started to make a effect
Starting point is 00:25:16 very rapid, but unfortunately, the damage was caused this
Starting point is 00:25:22 this, we've had been many many relats, the and the
Starting point is 00:25:26 burglary but our body suffer a that many times is
Starting point is 00:25:31 irreparable and in this occasion she she, she, she,
Starting point is 00:25:36 she, she was a woman, sheen with the 80% of
Starting point is 00:25:40 his body like if would have suffered of chemuras extremes this
Starting point is 00:25:46 this person never never who did the but it was a job
Starting point is 00:25:53 with a doubt to she was a envy
Starting point is 00:25:58 a very very and that she never knew
Starting point is 00:26:02 who was who never did do she never
Starting point is 00:26:04 was a years. And this young that has been the story, that is a sobrina of her, he started to
Starting point is 00:26:15 have a situation. And is that, of the nothing, he started to have Picasso in all her
Starting point is 00:26:23 body. She decided to look help, rapidly with a with a brother,
Starting point is 00:26:31 and she was a victim of a work generational. Unfortunately, they're attending
Starting point is 00:26:39 and, and, and, and, all they're doing very well. Those
Starting point is 00:26:48 those generations me make it was horrible when you see that I'm saying, it's important
Starting point is 00:26:54 many times to know what what's what's the past of your family. A sometimes
Starting point is 00:27:00 the people that before not like to tell that type of things for fear.
Starting point is 00:27:05 But I think in this occasion was very important for that that she could
Starting point is 00:27:09 do something. if not he was to exactly the same result. There are a lot of
Starting point is 00:27:16 stories that have been with the work on the different and they're horrible. It's correct.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I think is like, it's like, you know, you're like an attack to a person,
Starting point is 00:27:26 but attacks to the and it and it's so no important that the, the bruja
Starting point is 00:27:33 or the bruja or the first the there's there exist.
Starting point is 00:27:37 The mal is continued to perpetuate. Yes. And, and it's
Starting point is 00:27:42 a way horrible. They're very very very very. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:49 That story that I'm going to tell, it's called the Silvido. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:55 No, to be to our friend Salvador Fonseca. It's a
Starting point is 00:27:59 story a little and and well, how in Latin America what happened
Starting point is 00:28:06 these things that's strange? Yes. Salvador us says that
Starting point is 00:28:10 he's a province of Argentina. Uh-huh. No, us he's saying in
Starting point is 00:28:17 which, because, obviously, there's not so, not so things, don't know. In this place,
Starting point is 00:28:26 he said that when he had more or less 10 years of age, his abuel,
Starting point is 00:28:30 in occasions, in tone of a little bit more in serious he said and he said and he repeated that
Starting point is 00:28:39 never had to silvar in the nights much less if he was only because
Starting point is 00:28:45 at sylvar he was a a species identity she she was she said
Starting point is 00:28:53 that were bruchas the classic a brou that we know that
Starting point is 00:28:58 we can that we can't that He, the is that, I don't see if
Starting point is 00:29:05 he did a minute, he said, or a manner of a but he was repeated so he
Starting point is 00:29:10 was a little that he was he was in his memory, he said there in his city.
Starting point is 00:29:15 He said that was in a time when this this happened. Sure.
Starting point is 00:29:20 He was playing to the football with his friends and he went
Starting point is 00:29:24 the night. They never saw in what he had made
Starting point is 00:29:30 content to win to football. When they were going to get a time the night had had been in
Starting point is 00:29:36 his apogee, they decided rapidly to go to their houses. Of course, they were to give them
Starting point is 00:29:42 to reaganer, but well, yeah, yeah, it had been to have been to have been
Starting point is 00:29:47 to get to and they're going to get to everyone. He, when I went to
Starting point is 00:29:53 his house, he was in company of a friend of Augustine.
Starting point is 00:30:00 resulta that he lived a very very close of your house so it so in night
Starting point is 00:30:04 it was going to not you going to they're on the minutes about
Starting point is 00:30:10 to the trajectory and they had to pass to the road to a carreter
Starting point is 00:30:14 obviously obviously at the night if not was going was a automobile
Starting point is 00:30:19 because it was it was it was it's so much it was
Starting point is 00:30:23 they're when in the conversation they were were talking things of the
Starting point is 00:30:28 of the of the so that he he was going to start to silvar and he
Starting point is 00:30:36 Salvador rapidly he said no Augustine no silves no you do you
Starting point is 00:30:42 don't he asked Augustine and then he he he told to that he said
Starting point is 00:30:50 to his abel Augustine he started to he said oh no it
Starting point is 00:30:56 not not certain that are are things that are the adults to us to
Starting point is 00:31:00 us he he he he he he he's
Starting point is 00:31:04 he was a it's a a is a a so
Starting point is 00:31:09 they're and they're and they're not for five
Starting point is 00:31:15 minutes augustine he still sylvan okay in the
Starting point is 00:31:21 inside of the there he's he he he of
Starting point is 00:31:24 a good and melodic syiv That silvido He was growing And it was So, it was
Starting point is 00:31:33 that at beginning, that at the beginning, then it was so very and then that was so
Starting point is 00:31:41 that had to tap the ears because they were to get to the timpalus In
Starting point is 00:31:49 the confusion they were the cup of one of one of the one of the arborles that there
Starting point is 00:31:55 was there, it was a emerge a figure was a a sombra a they were
Starting point is 00:32:03 they were that they're that they're that was that was that was silvan tapas
Starting point is 00:32:11 the eyes they were to see to this thing that floated
Starting point is 00:32:15 on the surface it to them the reaction obviously
Starting point is 00:32:21 was to go was the more rapid that
Starting point is 00:32:24 could Sure. He says Salvador, that he he started to go out of he was going to go ahead of Augustine,
Starting point is 00:32:31 back, after, and he was going to he was going to he washington. He was Augustine. Help me! No me
Starting point is 00:32:41 do you. Help me! But he did he go to gore. Volteo in a moment and he saw that
Starting point is 00:32:51 somebra black, it was materializing and it and it was a woman
Starting point is 00:32:57 took Augustine of the cabels and practically he was to rastar him
Starting point is 00:33:04 for the aires while Augustin grittable the the fear.
Starting point is 00:33:11 The that Salvador no did go to his fear was more
Starting point is 00:33:15 more more more than his intention to his
Starting point is 00:33:21 unfortunately that was the last that was the
Starting point is 00:33:24 last He went to his house and he he told to his old he was
Starting point is 00:33:30 he was he was he was in the woman when he he said he was
Starting point is 00:33:36 he said he went to get me to get me to get him to get you
Starting point is 00:33:42 they're to come to the door and the and the and the he said
Starting point is 00:33:47 Salvador tell these people what he he was he was he
Starting point is 00:33:56 he said more than to to do that. In that moment, the familyaries? Sure,
Starting point is 00:34:03 they were going. They said they were to them to find out of this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And they were, all this city, the road of the road of the carterer.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And no was about to be the authorities. They started to look. And they started to
Starting point is 00:34:23 pass the days. The was they were in this camp and more
Starting point is 00:34:28 to into, after to get to areas to get a very, very long as
Starting point is 00:34:35 people were people with people who people were in the busk and then after the
Starting point is 00:34:41 hours in the most high of the end of a little
Starting point is 00:34:46 a little a stye and they were the only that was the only that there.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Some people decided then hadentration to the and there there there
Starting point is 00:35:03 there were in the rastro of a fogat and little pieces of the
Starting point is 00:35:08 car of nothing. After of a time the busked
Starting point is 00:35:15 did it took never she never no of his family
Starting point is 00:35:21 sepulted a tabulted a tabo a abo pacio said that his
Starting point is 00:35:27 father and that day he prohibited to to go to go to I could
Starting point is 00:35:34 do it but only in the day just the car he's he's like he was
Starting point is 00:35:41 a little a tragic history also I didn't go to go
Starting point is 00:35:46 but with the time he he's to super him exactly
Starting point is 00:35:53 had passed one and he was he was
Starting point is 00:35:59 doing his labors and before to go to
Starting point is 00:36:04 to hear that horrible and agonial, Silvido, he was parted the soul, and was full of terror. The Silvido no was for that he not for that he waschew, not for that he
Starting point is 00:36:21 recordar what he had passed to Augustine. It was a little. In that moment, Salvador, he knew that in some place, a little,
Starting point is 00:36:34 or a little, they were suffering the same Ssuerte of Augustine. It could be. Wow. A sometimes,
Starting point is 00:36:46 a lot of sometimes as you mentioned at the initial of that story people people can
Starting point is 00:36:53 certain things to children, no, young, and not they're, uh, sometimes
Starting point is 00:36:59 think that it's simply a legend of the other, but I say a good
Starting point is 00:37:04 man, for something on the things. Ah, so is? They're an
Starting point is 00:37:08 an initial. So, Something that motivates to that the people to start a fact
Starting point is 00:37:13 and this me record a case, and today to do you to be a talk about. It's the
Starting point is 00:37:19 case of Jose Morales is the name the legado. Hohle is these
Starting point is 00:37:25 stories that I'm to be to be to be a final a final a final
Starting point is 00:37:32 classic that's that story he was when he only had eight
Starting point is 00:37:37 years. He in that then, I was in a little little of Morelos
Starting point is 00:37:41 with his abelels. A person, a little that only was to help to
Starting point is 00:37:48 his abelito, yeah that his abelito had animals, cabras, and borregos, and generally
Starting point is 00:37:53 he was to get him for the mornings to get to get us to and he
Starting point is 00:37:58 was to him and he he was he's he's the job, so this
Starting point is 00:38:03 time all the mornings he was with him, and it was a routine that he
Starting point is 00:38:09 he was a good he knew all right everything there's a there's a
Starting point is 00:38:16 point important that I'm that I'm the that's the old and just as we said to
Starting point is 00:38:24 say to him in this place there are things very you're
Starting point is 00:38:29 you know you're you know the typical stories and he he went to that's
Starting point is 00:38:35 no exist my my that is real. That's not real. So, they're in they're doing.
Starting point is 00:38:44 His abuel he was a infirm. He'd a man. And he had to be to be
Starting point is 00:38:52 the animals. Yeah, he knew to go to the routine, he had that he had
Starting point is 00:38:59 at the six of the morning to more or less the day. And the
Starting point is 00:39:04 reality is that I had to also, no? The a repent
Starting point is 00:39:07 he tired in the pastit and he he he knew he's
Starting point is 00:39:14 he was a time, working, taking the animals, but one day passed
Starting point is 00:39:21 something a bit strange. It was not too at the morning
Starting point is 00:39:25 he was he was about of an arbor he was sitting
Starting point is 00:39:30 he going to he was going to get on the tree on
Starting point is 00:39:34 his face. He he thought he's thought about some an art
Starting point is 00:39:38 a bird a little a little he's he knows that they still
Starting point is 00:39:45 more more more soh his face. He he up and
Starting point is 00:39:51 look up and see a strange figure humanoid
Starting point is 00:39:56 that he was he. He in that moment he was
Starting point is 00:40:00 he was he was not he was a
Starting point is 00:40:03 man or a woman but But he saw something that was there and that He moved very rapidly. In that moment,
Starting point is 00:40:10 he's paralyzed of fear because not normal, obviously, be something like, he was going to. He was going to do it, no, he important to to leave to the animals. And, of good as
Starting point is 00:40:22 first, he's, how something is back after him. He doescribe as the sound that makes a lamarada of
Starting point is 00:40:32 a fire when there. I was I was he was he he was he was
Starting point is 00:40:41 very very can't and then after he he's free he can't he aghach to get to
Starting point is 00:40:48 get to a little and he's he's something he's really a figure
Starting point is 00:40:56 a obscure that was that was there was there was he had a sombrero
Starting point is 00:41:02 of a man. This had a a ropa like a manta very
Starting point is 00:41:08 antio and he he was to read when he he's spanted
Starting point is 00:41:14 much he he when he he he sees his
Starting point is 00:41:20 important because his hands were some those were
Starting point is 00:41:26 very very strange with some and he's take give darsel to
Starting point is 00:41:34 your abel in that moment he he looks the frasco he
Starting point is 00:41:42 he he's to be that with some the little strenes saros
Starting point is 00:41:47 and he said tell you he's he'll know again he
Starting point is 00:41:52 he's he see so that's that that that's
Starting point is 00:41:56 so so it so he's it was that it was at
Starting point is 00:42:01 at the beginning that was a type of a kind of or at least that's he, and he
Starting point is 00:42:07 he's he's going to go to his house and he's his abuela and
Starting point is 00:42:12 he said he said, he did this, me did this and that's to do you
Starting point is 00:42:20 tell you let's let's he'll in that moment the the
Starting point is 00:42:24 woman he put a car like a more of a but even
Starting point is 00:42:30 he did Immediately, Herman, in when he did this frasco
Starting point is 00:42:37 with a little the abel he's to have a great
Starting point is 00:42:41 great. Tantto that the day the day he had had
Starting point is 00:42:46 forces. The abel was very extra he asked to a
Starting point is 00:42:53 his wife to the mother of what what did
Starting point is 00:42:57 you? In that he he told what he
Starting point is 00:43:02 he said that he said that kid. And he recalca very my abuel, my abelowl never me had regained so as that day. And me
Starting point is 00:43:11 he said, why I I'm a when he always me told, many stories, and the
Starting point is 00:43:17 recommendation was, no accept nothing, quit of there, be from there,
Starting point is 00:43:23 and was the first that you did you didst. Passed, the disgust,
Starting point is 00:43:28 the and they started to In one of those mornings that they were in the
Starting point is 00:43:36 camp, yeah the abuel more relaxed, yeah, more tranquill, he told
Starting point is 00:43:42 to a little. And is that's many years Cyrilo and him were good friends.
Starting point is 00:43:50 When they were young, to both to them was, he'd give
Starting point is 00:43:54 much the attention to those things those and the
Starting point is 00:43:57 family of Cyril was a family of bruchos and chamanes.
Starting point is 00:44:02 And he, being his friend, he started also, he started to know, but with the
Starting point is 00:44:09 time, the two fortaleces their amist, but they started to do the
Starting point is 00:44:14 different and then sometimes even they were for doing for doing certain types
Starting point is 00:44:20 of and they were getting their money and but
Starting point is 00:44:24 there is the detail. Cyril he started to incline with
Starting point is 00:44:29 the things those curas, at the this this sir,
Starting point is 00:44:34 his friend, he's not a little incoomod with certain practices.
Starting point is 00:44:39 At the and this is what makes that they have that
Starting point is 00:44:44 one one one coming together he went to
Starting point is 00:44:49 do to do work once he never he
Starting point is 00:44:52 he he he was and the first a young in
Starting point is 00:45:00 and he he said this this this manned he's he said
Starting point is 00:45:06 he he said he said he said he said he said to make a matter
Starting point is 00:45:13 to make a man in that there was a discussion he was he went the
Starting point is 00:45:21 abuel he told to the authorities of the people what he was
Starting point is 00:45:25 not they're they're they're days after the people started to
Starting point is 00:45:32 go to the voice of the disappearance of a baby and the people see
Starting point is 00:45:37 found that that the baby really really was the was the was the
Starting point is 00:45:43 father. There many things very rare after this because
Starting point is 00:45:51 days after that he said he'll he said he
Starting point is 00:45:56 he he You want to get to be a person a person you need to spend that that's temperance
Starting point is 00:46:08 and that fault of, no see, of care to have to have the value. Because if
Starting point is 00:46:16 not it does, never you never going to get to get a long. The
Starting point is 00:46:20 abel definitely not decided to do do not, decide to romper the
Starting point is 00:46:24 relation with his and he he he said basically to his nietto,
Starting point is 00:46:30 all the he said, very avergonsado, very very very very
Starting point is 00:46:48 so he said, he said he said, he said, passed. passed on the years, six years, exactly, and he was he was still trying
Starting point is 00:46:56 with his old, in the camp. And a morning this young he's
Starting point is 00:47:04 talking to talk to talk to a long a lot of a syriol he started
Starting point is 00:47:11 to tell things and they were seeing being with frequency he he
Starting point is 00:47:15 he told he he had he was he was he was a point
Starting point is 00:47:22 to part but that his legado not he
Starting point is 00:47:25 could to Perder. Cyrillo he proposed to teach
Starting point is 00:47:31 all the secrets and he he's he's he's and he said and
Starting point is 00:47:40 my abuel was bad and I don't I am
Starting point is 00:47:47 and I am disposed to do to do any sacrifice
Starting point is 00:47:50 with to have power and to learn all
Starting point is 00:47:54 what Cyril now my maestro me ensue me have converted in a a brucho and not dudar
Starting point is 00:48:03 in seeing his instructions pese to any way with a reason me had you did you hear of the final
Starting point is 00:48:14 yeah yeah it's brutal that's oh oh yeah me sacuio me sacuio
Starting point is 00:48:23 this story me sacuio for a moment I thought that Cyril was like like the phantasm
Starting point is 00:48:30 of an friend of the old. So, no, there's a person. It was a person.
Starting point is 00:48:36 With a person. With a power is incredible. Sure. But no I think that his legado
Starting point is 00:48:40 would be. It's curious because there are many cases where people that have
Starting point is 00:48:48 a don, for some reason, they're that may want to them to them.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And as not to have children they are a part a
Starting point is 00:48:57 family or amistat? Yes. And it's here where, at the day of today, still working
Starting point is 00:49:04 that's a one of the same to a woman to come to be there the knowledge of the
Starting point is 00:49:11 that's true of that that's a power. Wow. No, wow. What,
Starting point is 00:49:17 that's a story, eh? Oof. Well, I think me to talk. This history
Starting point is 00:49:23 is called the price of the gold. And I send our our friend, Camilla Herrera, Reyes. Grand title, no?
Starting point is 00:49:31 Clarissimo. Fiatte. This of Latin America has a interesting. Okay. With the thing of the
Starting point is 00:49:42 burglary. Yeah. Camilla, that's this story, says, I'm 20 years, I'm
Starting point is 00:49:48 of Ecuador. Has several years, his abuelos paternors, they were to the minery.
Starting point is 00:49:55 This business, well, I'm going to explain the reason. When they're like they're
Starting point is 00:50:03 like, obviously they're going to have good feches at the moment
Starting point is 00:50:10 to, at the moneyeria to find certain certain certain and minerals
Starting point is 00:50:14 important but what what? When they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:50:19 they're they're to endodars the things are to
Starting point is 00:50:25 and bad. They're very very very these, the abuelos when of the
Starting point is 00:50:32 friend, a friend of his man, he says, I know, I know a a man who
Starting point is 00:50:39 can help to find or and metals of value. So, no, I don't know
Starting point is 00:50:46 if you are to pay the price. Okay. He said, no,
Starting point is 00:50:52 of some things and the power of brucos and brucas. So, He thought a rato, but he said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah, so you do you do you know. In a while they got, the brujo was very amable with the abelos. And, and let's explain that it was a little bit something. Simply
Starting point is 00:51:12 Necessified to realize, not one, but various rituals of brujeria. What they were to is that, he, the abelow, so he would be an don.
Starting point is 00:51:25 The don to find the places in these these metals specials
Starting point is 00:51:33 that would do you do a way he was simply he was to have to this
Starting point is 00:51:38 revelation to know where he was the or and for supposed
Starting point is 00:51:44 because whatever metal important and he he said he said he
Starting point is 00:51:49 came so they're not it was a ritual it were not a ritual
Starting point is 00:51:54 and and The abuel, he started to feel to feel like a different.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Of a get a part of the excavation, the mineria, I think we have to
Starting point is 00:52:07 excavate for here. And they excavabal, boom, a metal of valor. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:16 He, obviously, then, and then to make a little to that new intuition that
Starting point is 00:52:21 he had very well. And, obviously, he sent in debt with this
Starting point is 00:52:27 Brucho. He was very content, very very grateful, and form an amissed with him. Of the time to be
Starting point is 00:52:34 being, and now they were well, you know, he was in a way positive, very well. And the
Starting point is 00:52:39 Brucho, no, they had no, he had had been had been a good, and a
Starting point is 00:52:43 moment, and he's got a other than a family. They're in a reunion family. When,
Starting point is 00:52:51 he knows a Tia of Camilla, the her of these people. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:57 A woman hermosa of t- is very black, cabello to the back,
Starting point is 00:53:05 with a little a body very beautiful. Well, this is the man that this is the
Starting point is 00:53:14 person who's she present to him. Much of and the broo. When it, pooh.
Starting point is 00:53:22 So, she's He's immediately and profoundly enamored of her. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Without him, with the parents of this young, that were his friends, he said
Starting point is 00:53:35 directly, I want to you know, I'm going to you know, that's my amant. And she,
Starting point is 00:53:46 she said, and he said, he said, much thanks, but no. You're
Starting point is 00:53:53 is a casted, and has children. For favor, no back to pay me
Starting point is 00:53:57 that he went and he went. And he simply he's okay.
Starting point is 00:54:08 This young, the tia of Camilla was university at that then
Starting point is 00:54:14 and had a two good friends. One of them was aborted
Starting point is 00:54:21 by this broho and he was with her. She presented
Starting point is 00:54:26 and he said that he had the intention to do something. She at the first he said it's a nocura but
Starting point is 00:54:34 then this man, the brucho he offered money and fortune she of immediate
Starting point is 00:54:40 did a he's a he said he said something he said a super-senil took a
Starting point is 00:54:49 frasco with a liquid black and he he said you have to
Starting point is 00:54:55 give to to your her and she has to take the
Starting point is 00:55:00 content of this frasco but not to three gottitas she
Starting point is 00:55:08 she's he's he's some days after this young
Starting point is 00:55:14 was in his home to be she he went to to the
Starting point is 00:55:18 kitchen and and he's he he said you
Starting point is 00:55:22 want you well said she she verted the gottitas
Starting point is 00:55:29 he gave her water he took this baby and she he was
Starting point is 00:55:35 she she was she she noticed something he noticed something
Starting point is 00:55:45 he not I didn't she was I did
Starting point is 00:55:51 I'm every day she was a little but
Starting point is 00:55:56 not of the Distinct. The people said that act was
Starting point is 00:56:04 like a local. I was in his classes in the university and then and the
Starting point is 00:56:10 thing, and then, he was and he was, to get to the people
Starting point is 00:56:18 were to get to her. But she went without she to say
Starting point is 00:56:24 to the and and he was to get to and
Starting point is 00:56:28 to the nothing simply coming by the caries like
Starting point is 00:56:31 if was a person who had been a other people they'd they said you're saying
Starting point is 00:56:36 you're you're she's so they're they're they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:56:42 they're they're they're they're they're literally in the other
Starting point is 00:56:49 extreme of the city came without to get to get to
Starting point is 00:56:52 the other extreme of the city so a so
Starting point is 00:56:57 all his health mental was to to the grade that
Starting point is 00:57:01 he started to affect to the health physical he was a paltida at a
Starting point is 00:57:06 tacto he sentia no had desires of nothing it was so drastic the change
Starting point is 00:57:13 that was in the moment in the that he didn't even could
Starting point is 00:57:17 be to be a young hermosa now was a was
Starting point is 00:57:23 a back without involunted. Okay. So, his life was
Starting point is 00:57:29 basically. Yeah. Dice that then his brother, he's the father of
Starting point is 00:57:38 Camilla, was very very worried for his brother, he went to the room,
Starting point is 00:57:44 he wanted to give to eat, to come. Although he was to be a way
Starting point is 00:57:49 in silence, and when he was he was to get to the food to
Starting point is 00:57:55 his She was going to see and he said to get a and they're going to get to do you help me
Starting point is 00:58:03 help me for a in the desperation her mom he started to look
Starting point is 00:58:11 and doctors and doctors not can do you know not for she and it was that
Starting point is 00:58:18 he was so that he he knew a immigrant peruan that he was
Starting point is 00:58:21 that he was that they were that was able of great proeces.
Starting point is 00:58:28 She had she told all the what was her and he said to see her and he's
Starting point is 00:58:32 to be there. When he was his house this young was there was there
Starting point is 00:58:38 was there was there was he was he was he he was he
Starting point is 00:58:44 he took the man and then he went to be to his
Starting point is 00:58:50 father and his mother and he he was he is
Starting point is 00:58:55 very tard the The he's has advanced sufficient.
Starting point is 00:59:01 We're in a point in which is impossible to quit the
Starting point is 00:59:05 man. Only there's a way to save your
Starting point is 00:59:11 life. But it is so very dangerous is a
Starting point is 00:59:15 practice almost impossible. The consequences of this act
Starting point is 00:59:21 are terrible I know if you are capable of
Starting point is 00:59:28 to understand or to accept it. What we can do is pass the he's
Starting point is 00:59:37 that's a little a other person. No, ma'am. But this other
Starting point is 00:59:45 person has to be in accord. Okay. It's to permit that
Starting point is 00:59:51 this occur. It's the only form. They were there
Starting point is 00:59:58 in silence a moment. His mother the boy of Camilla he went to the vista
Starting point is 01:00:08 and he said for my daughter I'm I'm going I'm I'm going to do
Starting point is 01:00:16 that's he that's that same night that it was it was a ritual
Starting point is 01:00:24 that those who were present they said that was a badality I
Starting point is 01:00:31 I'm I'm with this young and I to the woman.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Travehaged to the young and he was a woman this man
Starting point is 01:00:42 was in the the environment is impregn to an olor horrible obscurity
Starting point is 01:00:48 her mother only I'm yeah to the morning
Starting point is 01:00:54 the day all had The brucho He was He was in the quarter
Starting point is 01:01:09 where he was all the night for to be to be this
Starting point is 01:01:15 young she I could not not he was I was
Starting point is 01:01:20 agotado he had a not a note something that
Starting point is 01:01:28 had written uh the abel of camilla yeah
Starting point is 01:01:31 he he he he he he he husband. And he
Starting point is 01:01:38 leo what you will say. It was my will not do this for my daughter. Now it's your
Starting point is 01:01:50 to be to be and protect her for the rest of her life. The balla of Camilla
Starting point is 01:01:58 fellieceo just at three of the morning. Offrece his life a
Starting point is 01:02:03 the time of the his his what what people do you do you
Starting point is 01:02:10 people do that Definitely the love to the children, to the people
Starting point is 01:02:20 very very certain to you us not are you are you are things
Starting point is 01:02:24 things and I would I would like I'm chagas for much
Starting point is 01:02:31 a lot a sometimes also the love not not the people
Starting point is 01:02:38 but the people but it's changed things in you things that
Starting point is 01:02:43 not have an explanation and that they're like a great mystery and of that I tell you're
Starting point is 01:02:49 to be to tell you that's aul Agir this story is the title Encuentro
Starting point is 01:02:54 in the Casa of the This this occurred in the year 2000
Starting point is 01:02:58 when he he's graduate in that then he was a medical
Starting point is 01:03:03 cardiology and he I'm in a hospital private of
Starting point is 01:03:06 the colony Roma in the City of Mexico
Starting point is 01:03:08 he he was passing for a time very difficult because that
Starting point is 01:03:12 had had a patient in the chirole and the hospital
Starting point is 01:03:17 was saturated of infirmes he had his time in many many
Starting point is 01:03:26 grave with infirmities and that that year that
Starting point is 01:03:29 he was he had a part he said honestly he was
Starting point is 01:03:37 he was very over-saturated of He was in the situation that he took with his patient that he per die he affected much, much
Starting point is 01:03:46 psychologically. He was devastated and not had the force to continue working. The fact is that he was he was even responsible for the perid of that that man.
Starting point is 01:03:58 He sentia that if he would be to to have an experience similar, he renunciable to his job. It affected It was
Starting point is 01:04:09 so difficult that Necessified He needed Much of including With professional because
Starting point is 01:04:17 he was very affected Ayes and years and years of study Tiredos to the
Starting point is 01:04:23 hours In one occasion he was working There was much work
Starting point is 01:04:30 He was he He's out of the hospital at 2
Starting point is 01:04:33 the morning with the C Jena of things
Starting point is 01:04:36 many pendent, things in the hospital, even there occasions where he only came
Starting point is 01:04:43 to his house for a change of a car, and he even
Starting point is 01:04:48 even, he'd get to get a there, but he not he's
Starting point is 01:04:54 he's he a, a thing, a thing that he
Starting point is 01:04:59 was that he was on a two of the morning at the two of the
Starting point is 01:05:06 night, over the case thinking in the situation of the patient
Starting point is 01:05:11 that he had had been he mentioned that he came know he
Starting point is 01:05:16 he came know he's a he was the he knows as the house of the house of
Starting point is 01:05:24 that's in the place of the place of Rio de Janeiro I've I'm
Starting point is 01:05:29 so he well well well well he was he was he
Starting point is 01:05:32 was two of the morning and a a senior a woman she's
Starting point is 01:05:37 a basically seems a person in a situation of the
Starting point is 01:05:43 person a person a great a woman with a
Starting point is 01:05:48 little a little a kind of the raros that
Starting point is 01:05:53 he he and with a voice and he said
Starting point is 01:05:58 he he he's no you know you know
Starting point is 01:06:02 you you know you know what is In that moment he put his
Starting point is 01:06:07 man over his and without something more he sentio something he was
Starting point is 01:06:16 he not so he could move he even thought that this she could do that
Starting point is 01:06:22 he when he saw he was he was he was to put him remember that the
Starting point is 01:06:28 eyes were eyes undied he I'm a mandil
Starting point is 01:06:33 a a little socio, like that had been doing things, he was
Starting point is 01:06:38 very humble, and simply with a smile, and she despaid of him, and she
Starting point is 01:06:44 go. That night, that madugada, after to have a encounter with that woman, he gets
Starting point is 01:06:51 to the house, he can be and he and he and he can't to try
Starting point is 01:06:54 to to get to a little. It had been a day very
Starting point is 01:06:58 and was a disanimed. That's was always tormenting. That that
Starting point is 01:07:05 he lived he was always he was tormenting. He doorme profoundly
Starting point is 01:07:09 and he to know that was in a room where there was
Starting point is 01:07:15 there was there a that was that she was
Starting point is 01:07:21 to to enter to get to see a person
Starting point is 01:07:26 and a person and a car and and
Starting point is 01:07:30 see how this woman with that had been
Starting point is 01:07:33 about, he a cutio he he he's the
Starting point is 01:07:37 red, he he a part of the part of his his
Starting point is 01:07:45 heart of his hand he's he kept observantly he
Starting point is 01:07:52 just in that he he he he was very
Starting point is 01:07:56 super superto very very extra and at the
Starting point is 01:08:00 eight of the morning no I didn't because
Starting point is 01:08:03 I had had I had a suinged that. He's a He'd have to go to the hospital. But, he passed something
Starting point is 01:08:09 rare. In-quant- he got, he had the animos was a lot elevated, he was sentia
Starting point is 01:08:16 very well, he had much energy, much motivation, and all that depression that he had been having,
Starting point is 01:08:24 disappeared. For art of magic and he went. And, and just in that
Starting point is 01:08:28 time, he had patients very difficult and he did attend them with
Starting point is 01:08:33 no problem wow all all all all all he had
Starting point is 01:08:37 operations very complicated and he terminated and he was the
Starting point is 01:08:44 time he he was again back again so
Starting point is 01:08:48 pass the things and situations very intense in
Starting point is 01:08:53 this place the people his people and he
Starting point is 01:08:57 were a he was a man was a and he gets the sixth
Starting point is 01:09:05 night, as he he he calls, where he he'll be a sonar with the same his daughter. He says,
Starting point is 01:09:12 he's, he's he's, he says, now, do you, and he to the
Starting point is 01:09:22 other, and he disappears. A part of that day, he still working now with that
Starting point is 01:09:30 with that with that he sent you that that force of those days had been some help an help
Starting point is 01:09:37 an help an extra in that time in that moment he still he's working not with
Starting point is 01:09:43 that extra but still doing it but with a motivation very very very very
Starting point is 01:09:47 he he discovered that had had been an extra in that
Starting point is 01:09:54 now he took to do to do so but no took
Starting point is 01:09:57 problem in to do it. It was to do and it started to do a form of a very
Starting point is 01:10:01 very well. After of some months, he had in peace and he was in the
Starting point is 01:10:10 cafeteria at the hospital. There was an friend of he was reading a
Starting point is 01:10:14 book and something. Because in one of his pages saw a photo
Starting point is 01:10:22 and it was like to someone the woman of the woman of his dreams
Starting point is 01:10:29 he he's he says in his ralato I'm desmally of the impression
Starting point is 01:10:37 he I paid the book prested a few and in effect it was the woman
Starting point is 01:10:43 with that I was that I'm that I had I was I've had
Starting point is 01:10:47 I'm this this woman has a his Barbara
Starting point is 01:10:55 Guerrero Barbara Guerr Barbera Guerr God me better known
Starting point is 01:10:58 as Pachita. No could believe what was going I'm I'm out of
Starting point is 01:11:06 the hospital and went to buy that book. After to learn
Starting point is 01:11:11 the history the great proeces of Pachita he
Starting point is 01:11:16 was impacted and I I'm I'm I'm with her
Starting point is 01:11:22 in the real and me he made a message
Starting point is 01:11:25 in my dreams. It was impossible. A part of that day, the passion for my career and for help out of the other, it was become in my only objective.
Starting point is 01:11:37 It was incredible, but I was, and I was front of the chaman, more powerful, of the that has been in Mexico. What I'm!
Starting point is 01:11:51 I do. Wow! Sure that I do. Sure that I do. When when I said, I've been there, I've been there, I've been, no, it's you know,
Starting point is 01:12:04 what was what I said? What? We said, I said, ah, look, there is where Pachita curable.
Starting point is 01:12:14 What? You know, he said, yeah, there's where Pachita Curava. Here is the park, here is the cafeteria
Starting point is 01:12:22 of the Bruchas. Yeah. It's the of the Durango. And right right that's You know what you're talking about this? Becer.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Oh, I think so super. Ah, but what great story. He did you the number,
Starting point is 01:12:36 well, man. Well, is that I'm so, it was so. Yeah, that's, so,
Starting point is 01:12:42 that's, impactant. Impactant. Wow, wow. Wow. I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 01:12:47 I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, we're, we're, to the
Starting point is 01:12:52 two stories. It's, this that I'm to tell, to be a
Starting point is 01:12:57 Of one one of the of the things that's one of the things that's
Starting point is 01:13:02 not an anonymous but okay I'm I'm I'm that
Starting point is 01:13:09 that that people people impressionable they say this
Starting point is 01:13:16 story is the Cue of the Diable okay and he
Starting point is 01:13:20 he's my man our man first to David
Starting point is 01:13:25 we we we we comment to the next I know.
Starting point is 01:13:33 There's a mutation of the stories conform to occur in certain success in a
Starting point is 01:13:42 place. So, so, of a certain characters can be
Starting point is 01:13:47 of a name, change in form, but continue on being
Starting point is 01:13:52 in thisapalapa, but very close of the serro of the Strel. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:58 The whole we've heard a lot of things. It's a bit of context about the Serro of the Strel and
Starting point is 01:14:06 the Cueba of the Diablo. Okay. The Cue of the Diablo no is one. There's more
Starting point is 01:14:12 than a cove of the territory of Mexico. Yes. One, we know, is it's in
Starting point is 01:14:17 Catemaco. Sure. Another is in the Serro of the Strel. Uh-huh. This Cue
Starting point is 01:14:23 of the Diablo, that is here, is in Istapalapa in the Cerro of the Strel. Auxa, a zone archaeological and natural located in the city of Mexico.
Starting point is 01:14:35 This Cerro is famous not only for its value historical and archaeological, also for his legends and myths.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Now, he says, yes, it's certain, the cave is involved in a lot of myths,
Starting point is 01:14:48 legends, events overnatural, mysterious, etc. According the legends, the Cueva is a portal to the infamund or to
Starting point is 01:14:58 the infirno. And, he's that that, that that Cueba, is the The Cueblo. Some of the relato say that if you passas
Starting point is 01:15:09 for there, you're going to see a man there in the entry of the Cueba. He will be to pay help to be and if you
Starting point is 01:15:18 do you, the the the anciano disappears you you're going
Starting point is 01:15:23 to come to see a that's a if you're if you try you
Starting point is 01:15:30 try and you try to make the entry of the house and the person that's
Starting point is 01:15:36 that's not be not this the serro of the starro of the
Starting point is 01:15:41 starro of the streya this obviously in times pre-His Hispanics,
Starting point is 01:15:48 was, and oh, with that a important center ceremonial of the Mexicas. There was this
Starting point is 01:15:57 ceremony so famous, of the Fuego New, every 52 years. It was
Starting point is 01:16:02 this ceremony the renacement of a new cycle vital. And to take to
Starting point is 01:16:09 this ceremony, it was a requir of a sacrifice human. Well,
Starting point is 01:16:15 Tanto you imagine you'll imagine you're the amount of sacrifices that's effect in this
Starting point is 01:16:21 place where where today the other than the carg energy it's the same
Starting point is 01:16:27 the same morada the devil yeah to the people and the myths
Starting point is 01:16:33 but they're they're they're menhikas to be other type of relats but with
Starting point is 01:16:40 the same because it's meskla the Catholicism for so it's This idea of the
Starting point is 01:16:45 Diabro. Okay. Well. Before, this Cueva as the place of
Starting point is 01:16:55 divinities Mexica's. Like Mictalancicutli. Also, the God of the Morda. The God of the Morde.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Well. Now, now, we're important. This context. He was important. In this moment, David,
Starting point is 01:17:13 a night tombs and with his friends out of their talking
Starting point is 01:17:17 and they're talking and they're talking to let's and they're to tell stories of
Starting point is 01:17:23 terror and they're they're to be with the Cue of the Dhabo
Starting point is 01:17:27 and so and so and the alcoholito one of they said and if
Starting point is 01:17:35 we're to do you see we to the Cue and all and all
Starting point is 01:17:38 all so they started to say ha ha and well So,
Starting point is 01:17:44 So they're They're Tovure To be To be His intention was to The same
Starting point is 01:17:49 Entrada Yeah And they And they're And they're And it's A man It's a
Starting point is 01:17:53 And it's very long It's Well, it But obviously So obviously So obviously
Starting point is 01:17:59 Sobott So far Invalentonados So far They've They've They're They're
Starting point is 01:18:12 they were on the lejos a point of light like in these stories. There's a middle of
Starting point is 01:18:20 the hill. They were to get to know that this point of the light
Starting point is 01:18:23 was about to be about a one of a distance of where they were very
Starting point is 01:18:28 very very very very very obviously in the the
Starting point is 01:18:31 hill in the night it's much to much fear
Starting point is 01:18:35 but being that being that were six people said
Starting point is 01:18:38 we go to go they start Caminered during 15 minutes more or less
Starting point is 01:18:44 until that they got to get to the point of the sun. They discovered that was
Starting point is 01:18:51 that was the light of a fogata. Okay, there was a fogat there,
Starting point is 01:18:56 see, they soresalted when they saw, that front to the fogat was the
Starting point is 01:19:03 figure of an old, was there was there sat down, all all were
Starting point is 01:19:09 to look to see in silence. and they're also
Starting point is 01:19:14 the noise of the fogata something okay a good a
Starting point is 01:19:18 that's the way those they're those they're his pesidels
Starting point is 01:19:23 this the the man masticando with the mouth with the
Starting point is 01:19:35 and they're so they're they're they're they're that basically
Starting point is 01:19:42 the man was a two meters of distance of them ah
Starting point is 01:19:45 and he the spada he was there and he he was to make
Starting point is 01:19:52 to make to move all of all allised of the man this man
Starting point is 01:19:58 man turned turned and he turned and and
Starting point is 01:20:03 what they he was he he he in his man
Starting point is 01:20:08 of right he had had that was that
Starting point is 01:20:12 was that was a blood. Those I'll see.
Starting point is 01:20:19 He was getting. No, he said was the hand of the right. It was the
Starting point is 01:20:27 little and the second, observance and you now were not. Gritero, grittar
Starting point is 01:20:40 and they're to terror and this man major no even even he even
Starting point is 01:20:44 moved. Those continued observing. They in when they're in the shock
Starting point is 01:20:50 commas they're they're desporied and they're going to the serro down the
Starting point is 01:21:00 terror that's that they're that they're they're they're and they're in
Starting point is 01:21:07 different directions yeah but yeah that they're after the final of the
Starting point is 01:21:13 the year they're they're to join the six we
Starting point is 01:21:19 we're to have to a patruia Yeah. And they've seen a patruy that was there, they're close and they reported to the patruers that they've seen. The patrueros? The patrueros? Well, because the six,
Starting point is 01:21:40 as I'll remember, they're taking. Yeah. They're just they're talking. And, well, obviously, they'd have all the alient etilic. The police said, and they
Starting point is 01:21:49 said, you know, you know, better vases to their houses, goys to
Starting point is 01:21:53 do this because if they're with this history, basically what they're doing is
Starting point is 01:21:59 altering the order the public. And we going to have to a jusgado
Starting point is 01:22:03 civic. So that's so, so, to the guys, they're
Starting point is 01:22:08 they're they're all and they're all to Combin started to comment what they had seen.
Starting point is 01:22:18 All of them have seen exactly the same. They were very, very aterrower. And one of them said, I have a
Starting point is 01:22:25 I have a man. I think he could help us. Okay. The, they're not in this moment, yeah,
Starting point is 01:22:32 they're contact them. And they start to narrate all what they're the time. The man, and in that moment, in the
Starting point is 01:22:42 night, So, So he's Rumpbo to Darien Okay He gets
Starting point is 01:22:47 He gets Those He's He's He's First he He's He's
Starting point is 01:22:52 He's How's How's Subio In the Obscurity Borrachos A
Starting point is 01:22:59 A little So Now I'm To have To come To I'm
Starting point is 01:23:06 To come To We're We're There There There's There
Starting point is 01:23:11 There There There's They were the next. It was the 3 of the afternoon. And they were three of them with the Tio, police. And two officials more that were armed.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Okay. They got this to this place where they were the Anciano. Obviously, yeah not was the Anciano, but there were rest of a foggata. The officials started to inspection
Starting point is 01:23:38 and one of them encountered a Ropa of a baby And then And then And rest of Oceos Of more
Starting point is 01:23:52 Niob Yeah, then when Notar This, the police To be Like, of These,
Starting point is 01:24:04 immediately They're Immediately, they changed The semblance. Right, Right, Now, Now,
Starting point is 01:24:08 now, Now, now, They're, They're, They're doing Other Unities,
Starting point is 01:24:14 The Cerro Cending of Policies to cordonarone the zone. And to you six,
Starting point is 01:24:19 now so. Detenied. Milles of questions. Those separated, those interrogated. But it was
Starting point is 01:24:33 important that were important that all the questions to be that they could be dislindar of any responsibility. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:39 They know. And so they did. They said, to all the questions of the officials. The news
Starting point is 01:24:46 came in some diaries, rapidly. Yes. Restos soces of infantes in the Serro of the Strel.
Starting point is 01:24:55 And so, the days. And a night, David, he was watching the television on the house when
Starting point is 01:25:03 I started to hear some when I started from the patio of the house. Okay. It was a
Starting point is 01:25:08 room like if someone would have madetating peteritas as to the bathtub. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:12 He was only, his parents had been out of the because, because of the people were,
Starting point is 01:25:22 he preferred to not to go to the house. Of course. They're in the pedrita sonning when of a sudden moved by the
Starting point is 01:25:28 curiosity, he wasom to come to the carty and what you see in the patio of his house,
Starting point is 01:25:37 he's so that he started to tremble of fear. Yeah. There, in the middle of
Starting point is 01:25:42 his patio was that that the man, Suso, arapiento, with the the
Starting point is 01:25:53 hair long, the he was a black manchaher. He was the other his head on theus on his labus in signal that he said he'll the message. He sent him with the head and closed the curtain
Starting point is 01:26:17 and he regress to sitar and to see seeing being the television but it's a carrieu saying something never
Starting point is 01:26:26 never I never never I never I'm to talk to the time to the
Starting point is 01:26:31 day of I suggest to hear that you that never they
Starting point is 01:26:37 never they go to that the place it's that
Starting point is 01:26:42 they're that they're that they're in your life
Starting point is 01:26:45 wow Oh, holy. Look, when we about we're about many phenomena of the bruchas
Starting point is 01:26:56 in their majority, duendes, elemental but that thing that's that's
Starting point is 01:27:03 that's mainly of little little there, there's many, there's
Starting point is 01:27:09 many that not, that's there's there there there things
Starting point is 01:27:15 that we get to the lack of the fact of
Starting point is 01:27:20 the fact of the question and of the story that's anonymous
Starting point is 01:27:27 the story is the story of Armando and I want to make emphasis
Starting point is 01:27:34 in this is a story very very very not a not so
Starting point is 01:27:38 for people that people that that that story
Starting point is 01:27:44 that goes with an emphasis very And is that a
Starting point is 01:27:48 Petsarer a Petsarer this baron, the intention is communicate
Starting point is 01:27:53 to all the people that these phenomena that these phenomena and that many
Starting point is 01:28:01 legends that are of entities and do and
Starting point is 01:28:07 things really really really they can live and
Starting point is 01:28:10 they they can sound are things that really can
Starting point is 01:28:17 get to this this, this, in the year in the year 2005,
Starting point is 01:28:23 when he recently had finished his career and he had graduated as a abogado
Starting point is 01:28:30 a licensed in the right he was the person, he was
Starting point is 01:28:35 the person in a occupant, well, so, a place
Starting point is 01:28:39 but with the illusion to grow to little. So,
Starting point is 01:28:45 his work was to assist to the abogas to do some
Starting point is 01:28:48 some diligence, give documents, keep to keep learning. Like
Starting point is 01:28:53 all, as the first pinin those first pininions. In one occasion, there
Starting point is 01:28:59 he was to a town of the city of Mexico to to
Starting point is 01:29:02 do a document when he he he gets to the
Starting point is 01:29:07 timbre and the woman most her that had
Starting point is 01:29:10 seen that the door and receive the documents. He has
Starting point is 01:29:17 much emphasis in this. His eyes were reds and me
Starting point is 01:29:21 captivated. His sonrises, his long cabell me left
Starting point is 01:29:25 without words. So, I knew a Diana, the woman
Starting point is 01:29:30 that was a very time. My visits to this despatch
Starting point is 01:29:36 were very frequent because the despatch for the
Starting point is 01:29:40 I had collaborator with them in a case that they had in
Starting point is 01:29:45 common and it was so he began to get to get to
Starting point is 01:29:50 get a little they were ennamor and they
Starting point is 01:29:54 passed the and they they they they got
Starting point is 01:29:58 a love a love and they get to
Starting point is 01:30:01 get to the year two seven two years
Starting point is 01:30:06 after after two years after perfect. It was the woman of
Starting point is 01:30:13 his dreams. Nothing could get bad. And at the three
Starting point is 01:30:18 months of the daughter, her husband he'd a great
Starting point is 01:30:23 not news. They were to be a father. To all people
Starting point is 01:30:28 they gave that not with with emotion. All
Starting point is 01:30:33 they had to that a beautiful that was
Starting point is 01:30:36 the result of an love that little. When they had four
Starting point is 01:30:42 months of of the time, they decided to take some vacations to relaxers a little. They were
Starting point is 01:30:48 eligying some estinous and those decided visit the state of
Starting point is 01:30:54 Chiapas and rented a house for a more commodity and in
Starting point is 01:31:01 that part he omit the place and the population because there
Starting point is 01:31:05 I want to say emphasis there is where The first the pesadilla.
Starting point is 01:31:12 The first night that they came in the house very old, a
Starting point is 01:31:18 very very the abitation principal very but was very old.
Starting point is 01:31:26 The structure was strong was quite but but they were
Starting point is 01:31:32 what today many people people say the mal
Starting point is 01:31:36 life They used to They just They were to Finally They were To enjoy To relaxes
Starting point is 01:31:44 To pass Time together After having Tentas During his During his Hornado The first
Starting point is 01:31:52 Night He took Paralysis of Sue But it was something He opened the eyes
Starting point is 01:32:00 And he He was Bucco Rive practically looking to the Tech and not
Starting point is 01:32:05 could move no muscle. De Pronto I felt a oppression in the
Starting point is 01:32:10 pecho and something that he said in the that there was a problem. No,
Starting point is 01:32:17 he could move. The figure was was a little to him and he
Starting point is 01:32:22 could be a little more to get to but he did he was
Starting point is 01:32:28 the the gritty he got agate and is when he his
Starting point is 01:32:32 his horrible rostro his horrible It's like if one part were human and the other
Starting point is 01:32:41 like of a CERdo. An extrana a strange combination between an animal and a human. De-pronto he was
Starting point is 01:32:51 he was able to a brinko very alterated his wife and he says and he says I'm sure my mom
Starting point is 01:33:00 no, no, domete just, it was a a pesidia. So,
Starting point is 01:33:05 he will to do to come and he even
Starting point is 01:33:09 when he was there was a strange sensation of the what he
Starting point is 01:33:13 had been something, what had been a very vivid to make a simple
Starting point is 01:33:19 dream. T' to calm and decided to enjoy the day.
Starting point is 01:33:25 They had to go to some some different to
Starting point is 01:33:28 some Well, at final of when, when's he'll forget that that's a piece experience.
Starting point is 01:33:37 At the night, they're in a house, and both were ready to
Starting point is 01:33:43 get to get to get to get to be very long, and they were
Starting point is 01:33:48 very very very he, he was, he was he was he was
Starting point is 01:33:54 to caris his bentre, he was about to be something to be something,
Starting point is 01:34:00 a baby, something very, very bellow, even he has
Starting point is 01:34:04 emphasis in that you know what were, and they were all right
Starting point is 01:34:09 to get to get to things and things very good.
Starting point is 01:34:14 When you were done when that of the
Starting point is 01:34:18 morning he again he he he and he
Starting point is 01:34:23 and he was he was totally paralyzed and
Starting point is 01:34:29 I'm of much fear and much terror I'm going to citar what he
Starting point is 01:34:34 says in this moment. Sentie a a mirabre that was that came from the front of the room.
Starting point is 01:34:43 And one more, he was made present the same the same the same he was
Starting point is 01:34:51 he came more to me he kept mirandome and he he rode in my
Starting point is 01:34:57 his horrible car with rasgos of serdo and human me filled
Starting point is 01:35:03 to terror but passed something after after to see
Starting point is 01:35:07 and he he he and he was and he and
Starting point is 01:35:12 she was the was an animal and I
Starting point is 01:35:18 in that I in a so a very so
Starting point is 01:35:23 that he can get to you can I
Starting point is 01:35:27 when he when he the eyes now and then with that
Starting point is 01:35:35 with that same sensation with much fear he and he
Starting point is 01:35:40 to a side and be to his wife she she she
Starting point is 01:35:46 she she even she even she she has she to
Starting point is 01:35:54 try to his stomach the and she and
Starting point is 01:35:59 she no sent her his pancita Yeah no Sinted a
Starting point is 01:36:05 What? No He was He went He went in the lights in the room
Starting point is 01:36:13 And with a gritty And with a quote That what there There was I was
Starting point is 01:36:20 What? What? The Raro is that the two had much
Starting point is 01:36:25 A load of a Cous All all they were They were
Starting point is 01:36:29 Confunded They were in a situation of much confusion. She's
Starting point is 01:36:36 also very alterated and with her hands and try what there and she does know that the baby she was not
Starting point is 01:36:43 in the the vintra. The immediate they were to a hospital particular that was
Starting point is 01:36:50 a little time of where they were getting the the medical they're they're
Starting point is 01:36:57 many did many the studies the conclusion no there
Starting point is 01:37:01 rastro of his embarazo. After of the acographies, no there was a
Starting point is 01:37:08 year to get to the city of Mexico, they were with the doctor that was
Starting point is 01:37:14 attending to his wife, the which was declared totally
Starting point is 01:37:19 incompetent to explain what was going. No there
Starting point is 01:37:25 rastro of a Absolutely nothing. The maldito being
Starting point is 01:37:35 a or what was a man, he was abacked to our
Starting point is 01:37:40 his months in therapy with psychiatras he he
Starting point is 01:37:47 was he was to get to his his husband
Starting point is 01:37:53 also was in depression and one day finally
Starting point is 01:37:58 one August of 2011 she decided to get to
Starting point is 01:38:03 the life. He termin his relato with this today
Starting point is 01:38:10 I'm I'm I'm I'm and I do my activities normal
Starting point is 01:38:18 as were a perfect robot without without without any
Starting point is 01:38:25 hope of no I'm I hope the day
Starting point is 01:38:29 in that I will be to be and
Starting point is 01:38:31 can to embrace one more but that what's what's like
Starting point is 01:38:46 they're in the sweet to get in the creature and he ohle perde bro
Starting point is 01:38:53 no much big yeah so that's that's sad man
Starting point is 01:38:57 oh yeah oh yeah it's spantosissio there there there there
Starting point is 01:39:03 there there impact in great form the people those mark
Starting point is 01:39:08 for life and they're they're do things inimaginable. You know,
Starting point is 01:39:17 the truth is that I don't know that's anonym the history, but with the name
Starting point is 01:39:24 fictitious that you've done all the good vibra of the world man. A big a
Starting point is 01:39:28 big a great. A me what I think I think very important of this
Starting point is 01:39:34 that at final is what in what we're in what we're in what we're
Starting point is 01:39:41 just not just one just just another other people relate. One investiga, he prepares, knows
Starting point is 01:39:48 people, voyage for to be in the places in those that are in those
Starting point is 01:39:53 things, and we know we we're that the lack of empathy of the
Starting point is 01:40:00 people that say to say of science that they're more
Starting point is 01:40:05 intelligent than the other are they're they're they are
Starting point is 01:40:08 the eyes and a reality that a sometimes is
Starting point is 01:40:12 spantosa. And it's that's that's that's a lot of very fancious or very fictitious.
Starting point is 01:40:21 But really there are places in Mexico that have precautions for this type of and they're
Starting point is 01:40:28 and so they're taking so they talk about if people or people or things that pass
Starting point is 01:40:34 not with normality or they have they have very present, many forms of
Starting point is 01:40:39 protection for for enbarasadas, for children, for tantos of the that we're we're in the
Starting point is 01:40:47 story also in all Latin America. This person in Argentina that's that's that's that's
Starting point is 01:40:54 that we're and we we're going to that that would that would be something but never
Starting point is 01:41:02 they've been. It's correct. It's it's a very strong, it's so. Gole. Some
Starting point is 01:41:09 stories very very really lowroces too, but super-terrorificas I'm very thank you
Starting point is 01:41:15 those are very that's a co-opra a podcast arrasparanourn com mann's those stories
Starting point is 01:41:23 and they're in an anonymous for favor agregen- and us help and the
Starting point is 01:41:27 in the issue of the question of the dondes dundes, bluheria
Starting point is 01:41:31 phantasas etc us us help but you know what you'll let's
Starting point is 01:41:36 I'll ask a bit because with PAK I can't talk much time of these
Starting point is 01:41:41 times, much time to the point of the point in that's like that's to get to get to be able to
Starting point is 01:41:45 do you know we're doing this but they're incredible, so they're incredible, are things terrible,
Starting point is 01:41:50 are things super interesting. Paco is a job excellent. Thank you. Just of this
Starting point is 01:41:55 we're talking in a chapter we we're going to grab for extra normal for favor,
Starting point is 01:42:02 if someone still don't you still don't you don't you They're in on the social. This is the
Starting point is 01:42:09 moment. Tell us what are your social and platforms and you thank you very much friend. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. My name is all the social as
Starting point is 01:42:22 podcasts extra anormal. We're going on the few days. We're in live the on the
Starting point is 01:42:27 on the time. We're going to do you some projects. They're going to talk to Nourin that's a
Starting point is 01:42:34 podcast that are not not so arrigued the paranormal. Oshokunuri is more the time of day-a-day. Serragal in the stusts. We're about the paranormal with a toque of comedy.
Starting point is 01:42:44 I always the podcast perfect. After you see a little, you want to relaxer a little, you want to get a real-alladha. It's the podcast. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Pepo, much thanks to you. To do you to do you? Much thanks. Oh, well, much thanks. And you know,
Starting point is 01:42:58 what? Something that I felted. That we're we're doing here in the studio of podcast Extra-Normal.
Starting point is 01:43:05 of actually it's divided in various sections of video of but this I've really since I came like a little I feel like a
Starting point is 01:43:11 kid who's it's incredible to be here with the ambient with the light he put us the rogito
Starting point is 01:43:18 that we used in Insovon us help us help this Haciel Paco Pepe that's
Starting point is 01:43:22 here too Frank also that we're that's that's good enough thank thank you
Starting point is 01:43:28 thank you thank thank you very and well yeah with this we're I remember,
Starting point is 01:43:35 ah, no, but I'm I'm sorry my I'm going to podcast. We'll see the next
Starting point is 01:43:38 time for to hear more of these experiences terrorificas reales of the audience. So, listen them.
Starting point is 01:43:47 If you see, let's see. Bye.

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