INSOMNIO - MI ESPOSA SE CORTÓ LAS PIERNAS Y SE CONVIRTIÓ EN ANIMAL

Episode Date: July 2, 2026

¿Qué harías si un nahual te acecha en la madrugada? En este episodio de Insomnio, Fepo, Mariana Maus y Fermex te cuentan historias de terror de nahuales que acecharon a nuestros oyentes. Con estos ...relatos aterradores, sentirás el miedo al imaginar que la bestia mutilada que acecha afuera de tu ventana podría ser tu propio vecino, y descubrirás lo que pasa cuando un supuesto perro se para en dos patas y te suplica con una voz que parece humana.  Suscríbete a este podcast de terror para escuchar los más espeluznantes relatos de la noche. #insomniopodcast #podcastdeterror #relatosdeterror #historiasdeterror #nahuales 😈 Redes de Fepo:  https://www.instagram.com/fepomx   https://x.com/fepomx   🔮Mariana Maus:  https://www.instagram.com/darthmaus66 💀Redes de Fermex:  https://www.instagram.com/fermex22?ig%E2%80%A6   🫡 Síguenos en redes sociales para más contenido: https://www.tiktok.com/ https://www.facebook.com/paranormal.insomnio https://www.instagram.com/podcast.insomnio   👻 Comparte Historias, Memes y Evidencias Paranormales 📝Cuéntanos tus historias: https://podcastinsomnio.com/   fepo@podcastparanormal.com ✨Grupo oficial de Facebook:   / https://www.facebook.com/groups/548487930178860   💬Grupo oficial de Telegram: https://t.me/+vFdn13cseD0zZWUx   🛒Compra Merch Exclusiva aquí👇🏼 https://store.podcastparanormal.com/tienda/   📧 Consultas empresariales: negocios@podcastparanormal.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Very good good days, after this, or no new capitulchus, in where we're to narrate the more
Starting point is 00:00:06 the more terrorificate experiences reales of the audience. So, listen them, if they're and I'm
Starting point is 00:00:13 atreveen. I'm afraid of to say, I'm atrevers, I'm at say that this is one of those
Starting point is 00:00:17 chapters of those that most going to commenter the audience, because we going to
Starting point is 00:00:25 talk to one of those things that are preelected of one of the men's of
Starting point is 00:00:28 the of us, and every one of us ourselves we're going with one of those oscuro
Starting point is 00:00:36 terrorifices, incredible, very Latin American the theme Naguales. And for that they're with us and we're
Starting point is 00:00:48 reunied the three masters of the terror. I'm going to start in this occasion with my
Starting point is 00:00:54 dearerais Maus. How you is? Very well. Contentate to other again
Starting point is 00:00:57 to be here and Naguales, yeah? Yes, exactly. Exactly. That's
Starting point is 00:01:02 very well, we'll say rapidly on the media social, platforms?
Starting point is 00:01:05 Yes, well, I'm them can't in any of any more platform
Starting point is 00:01:08 like Mariana M-A-U-S. Muchitim thanks, pardon. And also also is with us
Starting point is 00:01:14 our grandest, this Nahuas, of the stories of Nahuas, our great-N-A-W-N-A-W-N-E-N-E-N-E-N-
Starting point is 00:01:22 good-nach-n-n- -n-n-n- -tri-n-ststories because stories-ststststststs stories that not-asked today,
Starting point is 00:01:29 we've been a view very different as as we've seen. So,
Starting point is 00:01:34 so I'm going to I'm going to talk to things crueltas. No, I see, I know that there's
Starting point is 00:01:42 some more interesting and and I like, I guess that we know we about we
Starting point is 00:01:47 about we're discovering more of the other people, but not you did you're your
Starting point is 00:01:52 social? Ah, a me they're they're too, but I would
Starting point is 00:01:56 also that were to checker the the work we're doing in
Starting point is 00:01:59 criminal So, so we're in YouTube criminally. Perfect. And to me, you know, me know,
Starting point is 00:02:03 me found me for FEPO MX, but more I'd like to give them to get to get to our first meta in this
Starting point is 00:02:10 channel, to get to get to get to so that's subscribed, rapidly, click for
Starting point is 00:02:16 that or if you know on Spotify, or more not we know, we're still on Spotify,
Starting point is 00:02:20 we can continue and also do that there's a good rating. Recurda, the most
Starting point is 00:02:23 important are your comments, and if you know you share a a cache of commentary,
Starting point is 00:02:29 you can't be able to a case and you get to the experience familiar, of some kind of
Starting point is 00:02:34 that's impacted and that have to be in this case with Nahuales. But also, also, also,
Starting point is 00:02:41 if you want to your story appear in this program, for favor, mander to the correo
Starting point is 00:02:47 phepo atodcast insomno.com. You know know the issue, you can put to look
Starting point is 00:02:51 a word or phrase that more or not us indicate of what about your story,
Starting point is 00:02:56 Naguels, cheneke, duendes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Very well. I have a question. I have a question for you. Who want to converse? Why don't want to be?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Who did a story? Brutal, for coming to start? I think that's going to be the question now. I'm, I think that I'm, like I'm,
Starting point is 00:03:19 like I'm, but I think I think I'm one that they can't like. It's that was that I was very decided
Starting point is 00:03:27 because I I'm sure to you, I'm sure, to you, that I'd try your histories hyper-impactant. Well, as you want, if you want, I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to start.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Yes, sure, I'm going to start? I'm going to start you? Yes. Okay, well, I'll start. I'll ask you. Before,
Starting point is 00:03:43 to start with the stories, in a chapter of Nahuales, I was plated how nashelism of where it comes and all this. Today,
Starting point is 00:03:52 I'm going to today. Today, let's try a bit bit. Listen, this. You know, that the ultimate
Starting point is 00:03:58 juice for Nagualism was celebrated in Guajaka in the year of 1,704, to a man called Ambrosio
Starting point is 00:04:05 to the man, the people the people was to come back to this is real, I'm not I'm
Starting point is 00:04:12 inventing, this is real, it's really, they can't be able, and there are many and there's
Starting point is 00:04:17 much data of this in the Archive General of the nation. Because there's a acta that's authority of he was accused of
Starting point is 00:04:27 to convertors in the night's in a perro gigante and comers part of
Starting point is 00:04:33 of the ganado, gallinas, et cetera, animalitos of the communities the
Starting point is 00:04:37 community. It was so strong the people of the population that the authorities
Starting point is 00:04:42 took on serious this, got to Ambrosio, the enjuiceron, the
Starting point is 00:04:46 there, exist, the acta where is the acus and where he did a
Starting point is 00:04:52 castigue, the castigue to of 100 assotes public. There's a
Starting point is 00:04:58 lot very inquietante the person ascented in actas repito that's
Starting point is 00:05:02 that's present in this ultimate about the abhoralism said
Starting point is 00:05:07 that he was when he was not grittable like a normal
Starting point is 00:05:11 awed like a man it's real it's written yeah
Starting point is 00:05:15 wow now one of one of the castigos to him
Starting point is 00:05:19 um also were not only were these 10 as SOTES public, was also the distierro of the
Starting point is 00:05:24 place where I lived and pass the rest of his days in a convento to purificing his alma. Documented to what I'll say to continuation. After having it was made to a convento, he was brinkando of convento in convento because no it wasuantable. Documented a few years after this case of
Starting point is 00:05:44 Ambrosio, the monjas of different conventos of Guajaka and other states, they were in the presence in the nights of a
Starting point is 00:05:53 bird gigante that was attack about, was mordia, las ragunava, and was asechable
Starting point is 00:05:58 in his puberty. This is real. It's real. They're can't look the
Starting point is 00:06:03 story complete and you're going to do that really all this occurred and that really
Starting point is 00:06:08 really there was a actualism that was documented with a acta left
Starting point is 00:06:13 practically under the authorities of the area. With a and with a consequence
Starting point is 00:06:19 that was posteriorly what was what they was the what they're I think think that
Starting point is 00:06:27 also the thing the thing religious no or so of a repent
Starting point is 00:06:33 me I was thinking if maybe was a person that had a
Starting point is 00:06:38 problem mental and so he was this this role
Starting point is 00:06:42 from from the from the because they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:06:46 So, the mytho. But also, I remember that in these things, we're trying to a, a response,
Starting point is 00:06:56 and we're always always we're in the fact that this is erroneo, erroneo, errone, only to be
Starting point is 00:07:02 to comment, is that, is that we're very ignorant before. So, we know, we know what
Starting point is 00:07:07 we know, we know what we know what we're not in ignorants. In the difference is that not have advanced
Starting point is 00:07:11 so the if they were a man to be a man, is that is that animal that's an animal
Starting point is 00:07:17 that's a question that's a thing that that's another question but the the fact of
Starting point is 00:07:25 you know you do you know that's great point because I think that there's some stories
Starting point is 00:07:33 anecdotas legends etc that for example one thing is that said is that in that case
Starting point is 00:07:39 is that in that one can't understand now that the madder truna and that for temperature can change
Starting point is 00:07:44 not their sub-volume. But other other thing is that came to see
Starting point is 00:07:50 and they're to get a person who's that's it's, if they were in the things,
Starting point is 00:07:55 are the things, are the things, and the ultimate data. This
Starting point is 00:08:01 occurred in Guajaka, right? Occurrored in Wauhaca in the year of
Starting point is 00:08:03 the one of the last if your perro's Mambroo and you've been in Wachachach
Starting point is 00:08:11 you're in manches. Oh, but it's a very good. How can explain the attacks to the monjas
Starting point is 00:08:17 posterior to the capture of Ambrosio? Yes, for that's what I said, at the principle it was a thing that's been a problem.
Starting point is 00:08:24 But yeah, it's also a other thing. Apart, it's very curious, a more rapid. Much of the transformations
Starting point is 00:08:31 of this Quebec, we're, we know, we're notheros, but, and one would say that that's like
Starting point is 00:08:36 that's exclusive of Mexico, but not is a lot, we're not a lot of the other side in
Starting point is 00:08:41 Europe, that is very similar to the thing of Nahuas of here. A lot of the idea of the
Starting point is 00:08:49 like the like the like the like the like the people. So, so many
Starting point is 00:08:53 said that these were they were they were and attack to the people but if
Starting point is 00:08:59 you know you know a little more a detail it has many similar
Starting point is 00:09:02 in the Nauau with the other and the dogman
Starting point is 00:09:05 literally the man literally the man there also in the
Starting point is 00:09:10 South the United, Canada, etc. And also in Europe, the dogman, so, like, is that only going to the name
Starting point is 00:09:17 of the region and to the creencies. Exactly. Is that I'm, is sure, I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm sure
Starting point is 00:09:23 that there are a lot of relato where they're a lot of that we understand but that's the form of they're not, we're just to
Starting point is 00:09:34 put them and people that were to doggmian and we're going to doggman. It would be interesting. Because,
Starting point is 00:09:44 because, they're doing very rare. Yeah. Of course, there's actually there's video there.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Well, if there's also there's many cases, stories, legends, and cases that could we
Starting point is 00:09:54 study and more that would be interesting. Yes, this is very good. Well, we're going to
Starting point is 00:10:00 let's it. Perfect. Fermix, aelate. Well, this story that's
Starting point is 00:10:03 going to the Allient of Nagual and is anonym. This The story, of a certain way, is recent, because
Starting point is 00:10:12 it occurs at the beginning of 1990. The person that does manned the story, us tell the story of his Tio.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Oh, the Nahual still alive. Okay. Okay. This so, it's a initial of
Starting point is 00:10:26 1990, and is a thing that the family know, he says that in those years, his tio
Starting point is 00:10:34 had 25 years, and they'd in a rancho very that was awayed that was located in Jalisco practically
Starting point is 00:10:39 they'd in in the oriottes in a rancho that was a little and he didn't a circle where
Starting point is 00:10:46 they'd not a so no way there was very common that the animals of the the serro
Starting point is 00:10:53 backeran clacches this hardillas even even even some some of some
Starting point is 00:10:59 some there were and it was very common that they were that they were
Starting point is 00:11:03 because not they had put a A little is a data that
Starting point is 00:11:07 because he says no there's a protection that could to avoid that the
Starting point is 00:11:12 animals of the mountain would be his he's called Juan
Starting point is 00:11:17 in some moment he go to make his work to make
Starting point is 00:11:22 work labors of the things that I have to do
Starting point is 00:11:25 what so what's in a thing and he's he's
Starting point is 00:11:29 he was going to a time a man and But he was, the man, he didn't even was ever looking to him. He was in the back.
Starting point is 00:11:39 He was he was just like rascandos, like, like, like very inquietto, no? And he said that in a moment when he passed nearer, he perceived an odor
Starting point is 00:11:48 like, like, a mugre. When he passed, he said that the man, he was called to rasked, like if he was like a two or three
Starting point is 00:11:58 meters and he gave like a little, no, like he said, it's very rare this man, not he says, And, and that hewele amugre,
Starting point is 00:12:04 literally, a mugre, well, it's been kind of strange, like, he's made like two,
Starting point is 00:12:11 three meters to a side, and the man, he was he was he was
Starting point is 00:12:15 he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, you know, the same
Starting point is 00:12:22 and your vasica is a basica is just a only so only so, and he he's inquieted
Starting point is 00:12:28 a little, then the tio he starts to hear because he does a fear, I'm going
Starting point is 00:12:34 to gore to the course, the first nights he bit of to say to his mom
Starting point is 00:12:38 and a father, that had had been a encounter with a man,
Starting point is 00:12:43 he was not so important, and the words that he said, also
Starting point is 00:12:47 that they didn't, like, he said, simply was a little a little
Starting point is 00:12:51 there and he was a caro, and it happened, and one days
Starting point is 00:12:56 and one of these nights, he began to to hear the quejillo of a perro in the part of the part of the outside of
Starting point is 00:13:04 his house. But he said, is that we don't we don't have very strong. He said that they had perrittos chiquittitos,
Starting point is 00:13:12 of those chaparitos and he he used like a very strong, like the quehedo of a perro, but
Starting point is 00:13:20 he said that was like a little he didn't. The second night, he dorm, he'd
Starting point is 00:13:27 he'd dormia with the ventanas abirtas because you know in Jalisco there's a time
Starting point is 00:13:31 where it's much a lot of and just in this time was in the time around and he was separated and
Starting point is 00:13:38 so that's a lot of a carty me of me of the serro. Nothing more. One of
Starting point is 00:13:44 those nights that was just the second night, he said that he he's got
Starting point is 00:13:48 very unquieto because I'm when he when he when he when it's
Starting point is 00:13:53 what he can't be in the the curtain imagine that the
Starting point is 00:13:56 cortina, only you pegs to the cortina and you see your silhouette and what he saw, he's described like a
Starting point is 00:14:03 kind of a parado of patas, recargandos the ventana and olfateing in the cartina,
Starting point is 00:14:09 not more. When he he he he'll be a grito and the animal he's he said that
Starting point is 00:14:15 there was an animal that was able to get to inquieter. He said that the day,
Starting point is 00:14:23 to see that there was a little and he He encountered some woyas of a perrough
Starting point is 00:14:28 grand that were first, they had rasguueneed the madera of the window
Starting point is 00:14:32 and second he had had made like a way in the lot of the
Starting point is 00:14:38 patio in the barro in the in the in the polvo so
Starting point is 00:14:43 so it so know he doesn't know what he does say to
Starting point is 00:14:48 say to his mom and his father he did me he said all the
Starting point is 00:14:53 story and the papa he says so he he he he said he he said he's a he's a miedoso in other words he said he's a animal
Starting point is 00:15:00 of the mountain what you have to do you get to get a machete you know what you're saying it's a lot and he's about the time and the mom said it's that not only that's what you're saying the mom said that's a while
Starting point is 00:15:12 that's an agal and he he wants to transfering and the papa he said are these are pure those are so they're not so he said well
Starting point is 00:15:22 well well just you know well just well, yeah, no, no, it's the window, because he decided
Starting point is 00:15:30 not to continue to do not with the windows that I'm that new that animal
Starting point is 00:15:35 was present and here is where it's where it's the next next with the window
Starting point is 00:15:41 the next he, he's in the ventana like olfateating he.
Starting point is 00:15:49 So, he was they were holding on the other side of the then,
Starting point is 00:15:53 then he he did me. But, after to hear the father, that he said, you're a
Starting point is 00:15:57 mehouso, he said, no I'm going to get to be going to be saying to say to goceries. It was a
Starting point is 00:16:03 little rarro the papa, no? But during various nights, he started the, that's how
Starting point is 00:16:10 they were feeling, like, perceiving his aroma of the other side of the
Starting point is 00:16:13 window, but, but, never opened the the window. The
Starting point is 00:16:18 last night that heard this, because was the last, it was
Starting point is 00:16:22 I was going to go to and when he went to see the window and the door to be
Starting point is 00:16:29 the end up the day, no pass nothing, it was she had and she and he
Starting point is 00:16:35 was to listen to hear the the difference is that yeah not the other
Starting point is 00:16:42 side of the window and it was listening in the carto
Starting point is 00:16:46 he was there was there was there there was a more a mugre
Starting point is 00:16:51 in all the but there, there is encered the aroma and perceived the aroma to mugre. No, he says that a perro, no, perro mojado, no, a mugre. And there was a moment where he's been a dormido and he's a, but here, in the when when he gets the
Starting point is 00:17:12 only that what he can't see a kind of he's he's
Starting point is 00:17:18 like he's like a form not it not a man not a lobo
Starting point is 00:17:24 not a no no it was the image that we
Starting point is 00:17:28 a man a man that the was a thing that
Starting point is 00:17:33 was a thing that was a a car that was a another
Starting point is 00:17:37 was a and at the best had like a a sort of protuberance a little, like if it was an ocico. And of that
Starting point is 00:17:44 ocico began to start bava blank. Very spesa. He pega a gritty horrible,
Starting point is 00:17:52 he got a grito and he says that the impression just simply just made something that something
Starting point is 00:17:58 did. When he'd when he was his father, was his mother in
Starting point is 00:18:04 the court trying to consoler to of, to, of,
Starting point is 00:18:09 he said, he said, he said, he had got a little bit of a little and so
Starting point is 00:18:13 what he found. Is that part of his car and the rop were all
Starting point is 00:18:20 but it was a bava spesa. No, he had mordidas, no had, uh,
Starting point is 00:18:26 nothing that had had been that had that was that he said, he said,
Starting point is 00:18:32 he said, he said, he said, what did the part of the what did it's that it's that it's
Starting point is 00:18:39 that's that's a new sense, it's that question, bendiceroen the house, but, well, it's no no passed nothing, because really, I think the, I guess, the Nahuas
Starting point is 00:18:48 no, no, it's under that type of things. I mean, the does the same, if you're done the same, and he does the same,
Starting point is 00:18:56 because it's a demonio, because not is an entity or of the basal or demoniac, or is, it's another thing totally
Starting point is 00:19:03 different. Passed the time He knows He said he He said he used He said a while Awegerald A little
Starting point is 00:19:13 That's a A bit of that Someone wele A través of the But Yeah no He didn't To happen
Starting point is 00:19:21 The Tio, He said A little He said a little He said He said that The Tio still still
Starting point is 00:19:26 Biven With the Pass of the years They were Patscuaro Michokan The Jalisco
Starting point is 00:19:32 They moved to Michuacan and the Tio, as a day of today of today of he has
Starting point is 00:19:36 a little more than he's still he's he's he's he said,
Starting point is 00:19:43 I know what he was a never he he's he's a person who a
Starting point is 00:19:49 family always is always in his rio he gets to
Starting point is 00:19:53 get to he he doesn't come to come he he's very
Starting point is 00:19:57 apegated to the natural and when Patschua in
Starting point is 00:20:00 a region boscos is a Pek much to
Starting point is 00:20:03 a natural is something that he doesn't know he doesn't nothing rarro the tio is a person normal only that is
Starting point is 00:20:09 very ale the family but what is what's what he said he says that's about a year
Starting point is 00:20:18 a year and maybe they're going to change of a time drastically but no
Starting point is 00:20:22 he he's to put to put her to put her the person that's the
Starting point is 00:20:29 person that his time not so house. So, junta his robes and all the lavator and so it's
Starting point is 00:20:37 that's a little little proper. So I'm a lavoy to do do you do that way. Ah,
Starting point is 00:20:43 well, passable for the court of the tio, he said, I'm going to to lavichita of my tio
Starting point is 00:20:48 for that he's socia. He said that he was a little bitas and he he was a little to the
Starting point is 00:20:54 camera and what he he went to in the camera is a lot of a ton of a lot of
Starting point is 00:21:00 a lot of a A he does because he says, no we have perils, no there are animals that
Starting point is 00:21:05 get to the house. And the Tio always has been very reserved with his things,
Starting point is 00:21:11 with his Ropa, with the things that he does, with what he does, and it
Starting point is 00:21:15 and it doesn't a turn of the because really not know what is what
Starting point is 00:21:20 is what is he's a little he can have been that had been that was
Starting point is 00:21:26 that that story is a that story, he could have transferred something. What do you think to you?
Starting point is 00:21:36 To your vacilla, vacia? Talves, not? Talos only wanted to do that's
Starting point is 00:21:45 kind of of that's the Nahuas? Yes, it could be. Evidently not he
Starting point is 00:21:50 didn't know he did because if he was he did and no it he did more than the
Starting point is 00:21:55 bava that he did he I don't want to to do something
Starting point is 00:22:00 curious. I mean, I think we've seen a perr, no? Yeah. That's just. And when you're to the
Starting point is 00:22:08 kitchen, the dog is to go to the kitchen, and he's there. And when you go to your court,
Starting point is 00:22:12 and when you go to the cell, and you're the cell, and you're you're gonna, if you're
Starting point is 00:22:19 to startas, and it's that's the sound that does, it's like I was like I was
Starting point is 00:22:24 like I'm that's in the thing, the Nahual. Well, what whatever that's
Starting point is 00:22:28 that's I imagine that really it's really it's really a lot
Starting point is 00:22:32 it's really and it's really a and it's oh, when you're when you're when you're
Starting point is 00:22:38 when you're the, the window the window that's me put the piece
Starting point is 00:22:44 so, she nita I feel horrible. The truth is that I know that could
Starting point is 00:22:49 have been but it's very impactant yeah I'm I think that the
Starting point is 00:22:55 navalism is one sanguine is is that's and that difficult
Starting point is 00:23:01 you can't you know, so you can't, but only if they're like in your lineage
Starting point is 00:23:06 there was some ague yeah, exactly. Right? Exactly. Tell us something.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Maybe something. Well, it's something, because, of the fact, when they were at the
Starting point is 00:23:16 beginning of the 90, and in a region so in the people, there was there was very
Starting point is 00:23:22 many people, there was maybe even even even even even even even even even
Starting point is 00:23:28 I don't have the minor idea. It's that I remember of a story of a story of a story of a
Starting point is 00:23:32 one of a little that I was coming out of and I'm oh, I'm thinking that I'm
Starting point is 00:23:38 going to be going to tell us to tell us to tell us and the story of that's a
Starting point is 00:23:43 very good that's a very good so I know, I know, so I'm that you know
Starting point is 00:23:48 that's that's that I'm that I'm I know I know so I'm very good
Starting point is 00:23:53 is very good ohie but it is very very good and you know
Starting point is 00:23:56 that me I think I know I'm going to learn something. A lot of
Starting point is 00:24:01 we're going to know about a story that's a little bit. But you talk about us. It's, I think
Starting point is 00:24:08 that every time we're going to talk about a specific you, you start similar
Starting point is 00:24:15 similarities in all the stories and you start just to understand how is how it
Starting point is 00:24:18 can't but there sometimes that even you want you're like connect
Starting point is 00:24:22 all the things that's that's there can't without explanation. This
Starting point is 00:24:26 history is called the Naguala of Yucatan. What? Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:34 This this chick us tells the story of her that's that's been
Starting point is 00:24:40 told at the time. She has she said that one her was in
Starting point is 00:24:47 house and she was doing the what to do doing things,
Starting point is 00:24:50 etc. In activity and activity in some moment she
Starting point is 00:24:54 she's cae, it's raspa, and it can be the the hospital.
Starting point is 00:24:59 When they're in their turn to pass her to be a man an senior, a
Starting point is 00:25:07 and he says, why if you're so you're you're waiting,
Starting point is 00:25:12 you're waiting for you you're you can you can cure look
Starting point is 00:25:20 and he he opened his box and he's a boatecett and that And that boatcetit,
Starting point is 00:25:25 I had like a, like, like, like, pastosas, like prepared. And so they're
Starting point is 00:25:32 to put, and like, at the beginning of the ball, like, do you know me toke.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And so it's to put it, and I started how, how he bad had the
Starting point is 00:25:41 and he he had to get that, like, when you put a little, and he
Starting point is 00:25:45 he said, he said, and he said, he said, and he said, it's, and he put him,
Starting point is 00:25:52 and he puts, and he said, if you you're more, if you're you'll just, you'll go, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:26:00 see to be to see a I'm going to he said, he's he said, he said, he's he said, but it's okay.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And as a oldita and the other, then I think it was like these remedies,
Starting point is 00:26:12 etc., the same that the little bit of this she was also also, but also,
Starting point is 00:26:16 then the day next, he's the house of this When she's, when he comes, be that there
Starting point is 00:26:23 like hervitas colgadas, that had like various belittas. She did rarro, but then it went to and she
Starting point is 00:26:31 he was the thing that they curar with herbs. And he said, how, how is that this?
Starting point is 00:26:39 So, I was that he said, to me me, I made my mother, and so
Starting point is 00:26:44 has been for generations. A you, not you, not you know, to do it? No, and me
Starting point is 00:26:49 He's I'm He says, If you want you You can I can So this
Starting point is 00:26:53 So this this woman, the abelita of this chica, go to the
Starting point is 00:27:01 house of this Vigia for that she she the and the
Starting point is 00:27:04 she and he he started to do other other other other
Starting point is 00:27:08 other things he to talk to be the little
Starting point is 00:27:13 she he started the barage Spanish and she to teach various
Starting point is 00:27:17 things. Yeah, they had to be more like with like with a good and he
Starting point is 00:27:20 he's and he he's got to so he then she he was a certain sessions
Starting point is 00:27:27 that were certain people, because they they said and then you're going to hear you
Starting point is 00:27:34 go to hear you're going to talk about and he said and then she was she was
Starting point is 00:27:40 she was she was I'm trying things incredible and he started to
Starting point is 00:27:45 marvellar for the time. But there's a different of all that
Starting point is 00:27:51 were in certain with certain and she was super angustied and the he said,
Starting point is 00:27:57 I'm a problem. What is that my daughter says that all the nights
Starting point is 00:28:03 there's there's there and want and it and it and like every
Starting point is 00:28:09 night he's to find the way to how to open
Starting point is 00:28:13 the window to the a quarter. And the problem is that we're seeing that, like, every bit, it's always it's never, so I feel that one day will enter for her and she'll have to give her. He said, he'll be, we'll go to your house.
Starting point is 00:28:27 So, they're going to go one night, and this chick, well, this, sir, he says, I'm going to say, what you're going to say, what you're going to put in that quarter of the little. You're going to say, what is what you're going to do? How will you to put her, while I I'll
Starting point is 00:28:42 put all the protections outside of the house. And she accepted. They went to the house.
Starting point is 00:28:50 The ladyita, she kept out of out and he started like some some of the thing she
Starting point is 00:28:57 was like some were like some of some necessities and they were just and they're doing it
Starting point is 00:29:04 was quite. She had said, that had said to alterer certain things in
Starting point is 00:29:08 the court that They were going to to change the camera, they were
Starting point is 00:29:11 to put a little other side. They were to do you know, she did,
Starting point is 00:29:17 she did, she did, that this animal, that was a small, and she was coming, all in the
Starting point is 00:29:24 court and he was all and you could be to get to the thing you
Starting point is 00:29:28 in the house. So it was to find it to and she was
Starting point is 00:29:33 her things there out. For all this, to be able to be able to the lunar,
Starting point is 00:29:42 because obviously it was done yeah very night. So she said that was with the mom, the little
Starting point is 00:29:48 and she were changing the room. And she was doing the things, but was not the house.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And it was not there was there no there no there no there was and I
Starting point is 00:30:01 started like a quixio of an animal that was that was When it's When she's somed
Starting point is 00:30:07 for the window when it's not much he's relax a little because it was the first
Starting point is 00:30:12 that's something she's saw a see a new friend that was
Starting point is 00:30:18 her she was she was she was she was doing accommodating and she
Starting point is 00:30:24 continued accommodating and he had had had been he he was
Starting point is 00:30:26 he put her he said he put he put he put some she
Starting point is 00:30:32 she not she know When she's like when she's like when she's like the
Starting point is 00:30:40 front, she was like the dark of the night like was a little something
Starting point is 00:30:46 and she was like a quehido of an animal and she was and she
Starting point is 00:30:52 was like she said she said she said he said like a guaholote great
Starting point is 00:30:59 but he was he was he was he was and she's he was to the
Starting point is 00:31:04 bigita to but like it was with the curiosity of a person and he
Starting point is 00:31:11 he's to see the animal is a little more silencius and I
Starting point is 00:31:15 looked at all the house and the little in the window petrified
Starting point is 00:31:22 of fear and I was observing and she's he
Starting point is 00:31:28 he's being to she's she she chos to back
Starting point is 00:31:32 back to and got to the she He's in other
Starting point is 00:31:37 quarter. And in this quarter, they were to start like the animal,
Starting point is 00:31:41 and I'm to do this ruse to her own to the little, grittal. He was
Starting point is 00:31:48 was grittando. And this animal said that she had like, how she alletteer.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And she kept so like, so I'm so she said, that all the time
Starting point is 00:32:02 was thinking that my my amic my need, and She was about the family
Starting point is 00:32:07 while she was like that the gree- until she a little like a-holote like that but a
Starting point is 00:32:14 but a but a but a great-so- an gritty of extreme of the and she said
Starting point is 00:32:20 he said that said that the fear not let let me make a that
Starting point is 00:32:25 never had felt like that that never had thought I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:32:31 to move I have to help her I'm And no I could tell the
Starting point is 00:32:35 Mied. It was the mind of the animal that's the little she was
Starting point is 00:32:39 the little the animal, be a this little bit that she was a
Starting point is 00:32:46 and she kept there and not he could move. Until that of a sudden
Starting point is 00:32:52 to hear of the soundidos. So, they're so they're and said
Starting point is 00:32:57 that, obviously, they're obviously, they're going to the woman, and the
Starting point is 00:33:02 the lady was a woman was but that I can't say I was I was going to see that
Starting point is 00:33:09 she was like I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm back to her the
Starting point is 00:33:14 body the body had like the like it's like it's
Starting point is 00:33:21 he said he even he's in the the piece in the
Starting point is 00:33:25 the woman and I'm there was not even to be not even even to
Starting point is 00:33:30 they were more they were more they were been and only
Starting point is 00:33:37 they were and they they were to get her and they that day the she said
Starting point is 00:33:43 to the mom of the little the child you know you know I don't you're going
Starting point is 00:33:51 to help there there's a gawal that you're because are you
Starting point is 00:33:57 are you are you have to the only that I'm the only that I can do
Starting point is 00:34:02 the only thing is a protection, but they have to go to that house. And to
Starting point is 00:34:07 I don't want to want to see my life. That was the last day that was the second
Starting point is 00:34:12 she said, he said that all the other with her, of her, she never
Starting point is 00:34:19 did ever to do that never did. And when this little this little the
Starting point is 00:34:23 story, me I think, I think my my abuela me
Starting point is 00:34:27 this story because until the fact she is
Starting point is 00:34:35 is he's confessing for that someone he said, because until the feach no could be pardoned to what he did.
Starting point is 00:34:40 So, like if she was to be to do that the Lord? But not she was not he
Starting point is 00:34:45 was not not he was attacked horribly but you know, I know, I think he
Starting point is 00:34:50 was that wow. But why he was, but why he had said I don't
Starting point is 00:34:57 I'm going to never to help because she did she needed to she never did
Starting point is 00:35:03 she never did she she did she she did her he the Naguil.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Ah, me, see, bien, so, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:35:12 no, no, no, she, she, she, she, she,
Starting point is 00:35:16 she, she, she, she, she, she, she, I'm,
Starting point is 00:35:22 I'm, I'm gonna, I'm, you know, I'm gonna, yeah, so, yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:25 I, yeah, I'm, pardon me, yeah, wow, what story, eh?
Starting point is 00:35:35 This, I'm a biturbed a good I mean but I know the I mean
Starting point is 00:35:40 I'm a I don't I don't I'm not I'm not but I'm everyone always say
Starting point is 00:35:46 no I'm I'm going to I'm sure because how people can't get congelated
Starting point is 00:35:53 of fear so to know that the enemy you know you you're
Starting point is 00:35:57 you you're you're you you're you you do you
Starting point is 00:36:01 do you you start you it's very difficult it's
Starting point is 00:36:05 very difficult for Who would you do, you know, I think to be able with the personality
Starting point is 00:36:10 of each yeah, so, when you're when you're when I'm remember the this of the
Starting point is 00:36:16 film this of rescatando the soldier Ryan and there one that has got all the
Starting point is 00:36:21 arms and all the and he's when they're saying, I'm telling I'm help me,
Starting point is 00:36:27 help me. And the and the and the Alemann and he is a one meter
Starting point is 00:36:32 so he has a little a little armed, only is the the,
Starting point is 00:36:38 the German, his companyer, and a cuchio, and he he's
Starting point is 00:36:42 he gets a life. And, the when the man's and he he's
Starting point is 00:36:47 so much, he's so so he simply pass a can't get a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:54 No, I mean, I mean, I mean, that's kind of to act to an
Starting point is 00:37:00 form different, no? Yes, and is you know, and is that also
Starting point is 00:37:03 being, start in that moment, to know a what you are you are going to be to be to be to be sure that you too
Starting point is 00:37:12 to be front of a while and see, but maybe just to be in the just moment or the transformation or an attack
Starting point is 00:37:22 can be a traumatic and it can be that he'd be so of the fear, of the panic that you can get to
Starting point is 00:37:27 see. Today in the morning I was revising a little some little some some of the
Starting point is 00:37:32 Santa Inquisition, the descriptions of the people about the Nahuas, I'm sure that no are quen-coun-cuestes. There are some descriptions that can't even can mute-you-up, muttear the words, but are quen-cruentas, are horrible, they're quit parts of the body, they're, they're
Starting point is 00:37:53 truenaed the wessos, there's dispelechamint, there are things horrible. And not are-cunders. Look, not are the story that's the story that
Starting point is 00:38:05 I'm going to tell you obviously obviously will have relation with all the thing, but you
Starting point is 00:38:14 think about you're thinking much just what you do you do you do you do you
Starting point is 00:38:19 do this I'm this this this story is the fogon
Starting point is 00:38:25 and the man Javier Villegas I I've known to a person that's a beaigigua. A phleot.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Random fact. A fepodato. So, is that like in the prepa he said, to us, for his name, and he'll be
Starting point is 00:38:41 his name, and he'll be it? Yeah. So, well, he said that this story no
Starting point is 00:38:51 he did you to do it, also he occurred to the abuelo. It's a, it's a story that
Starting point is 00:38:57 he told. but it's very rare because the abuel well, well, Javier, yeah is a person that's a person
Starting point is 00:39:06 that's a man, is an adult and he says, and this is I do have to hear, because the
Starting point is 00:39:13 truth is that I've heard of this name, says, this occurred in Sosokolco
Starting point is 00:39:18 of Idlego, in Veracruz, there for the years of the 1990. So, so,
Starting point is 00:39:23 so, so, so, so, much, much, much, much,
Starting point is 00:39:25 so, so, almost 100 years have this story, almost. The abuel,
Starting point is 00:39:30 obviously, yeah, well, he's a better before but he's that he's
Starting point is 00:39:34 that he said that in a moment, he told this story, two or three times
Starting point is 00:39:40 with a cupita and not he was to talk to this he was to get to
Starting point is 00:39:45 a certain point culpable, no? In that then in this place,
Starting point is 00:39:49 in this Sozokok the abuel was a carpessina and he was
Starting point is 00:39:54 he was he Sol to the Sol, it was a Doroidaleck, very clavoured in the suyo, he had
Starting point is 00:39:59 like, I know some people because basically never even he could be a little, it was like a place,
Starting point is 00:40:05 there were many people that were living just for a and in these places that are
Starting point is 00:40:12 very awayed, they're they're stories of things very strange.
Starting point is 00:40:18 The people pass a much time away from others. Of course, it's
Starting point is 00:40:23 that, we're like in that zone, more that there other people, they were
Starting point is 00:40:29 stories of that in that in the people, in the people that there were some bruchas and that
Starting point is 00:40:38 those bruchas were unied and they were in the nights, but that if you was it was super
Starting point is 00:40:45 dangerous. So if you see that that was a ball of a woman was a was super
Starting point is 00:40:50 dangerous because the witch the brawl that could see. So,
Starting point is 00:40:53 they just they were to work and they were and they're they're going to hear of these
Starting point is 00:40:59 stories and more. One day, being he was a young, he said that was
Starting point is 00:41:04 working, that was the sun terrible, the humidity so maximum when of a
Starting point is 00:41:11 really he he said he was he went to this space kind of sort of
Starting point is 00:41:17 kind of sort of He was there and he noted a silhouette of someone who was there so he simply went
Starting point is 00:41:24 with the curiosity to see who who was and he was a woman a woman a woman a young
Starting point is 00:41:32 that he was very very much attractive that also obviously for the region Veracruz
Starting point is 00:41:41 the port and all this was a woman very black very much black of cabello
Starting point is 00:41:47 negro and simply he's unri-and, and he he, he, he intended, like, to talk to
Starting point is 00:41:55 get to be a poca, so, like, to try to try to, and the woman,
Starting point is 00:42:00 rapidly did, no, I know much of her, so he said that was to be a
Starting point is 00:42:05 little, blah, blah, et cetera, and he he was to see in that place, like,
Starting point is 00:42:11 like, like, sort of, and rapidly, then, so he was to live to
Starting point is 00:42:17 live to live to live with him? Yes, she was to live to live with him was,
Starting point is 00:42:21 they were, they were not, but it was like his husband, so it was,
Starting point is 00:42:25 so it's, so the people, the people, he, he's, that he's living with
Starting point is 00:42:30 this woman and that the woman and that and the woman, and one of
Starting point is 00:42:35 the people he said, oh, oh, yeah, oh, he, he,
Starting point is 00:42:38 oh, he, and she, how, how, how you, and he's, okay?
Starting point is 00:42:43 And he said, no, well, Well, no, well, But is my Sposa. He said, no, but but if you know But if you know, but if you're saying,
Starting point is 00:42:55 The other people, that they said that they're going to because there's they're just the kids.
Starting point is 00:43:04 How's they're those people? If you, who know does what are the bruchas?
Starting point is 00:43:09 I say that the bruchas Salen in the nights converted this animal. They're robin to the
Starting point is 00:43:17 children and the nines and they areastran to the serro. And yeah that
Starting point is 00:43:23 they're in the serro, they're they're the and they put the
Starting point is 00:43:30 blood in a casso. It's they. So, no, so,
Starting point is 00:43:36 so, that they they're so they're so they they're they they're
Starting point is 00:43:40 and they have have, I've cuted the to the victim's, that's the that's
Starting point is 00:43:58 to get the more than that's compact, and well, it's weird. And, and so, and yeah that
Starting point is 00:44:06 is converted in this matter, now is it's it they're coming. So, they're
Starting point is 00:44:12 in this. and then they're to where they're that's the he's the he's the
Starting point is 00:44:19 he's called my woman is a woman is that's saying well is that nobody she knows
Starting point is 00:44:26 I know I know my my woman and she went and she went
Starting point is 00:44:32 and she was that the people say things things very rare that in the
Starting point is 00:44:38 rather to do to do do you always are saying things turd.
Starting point is 00:44:43 But he's that his abuel if he suspected about
Starting point is 00:44:49 something because he was he was a very more very there
Starting point is 00:44:56 all the day in the sun very perjudic of his and
Starting point is 00:45:00 she was very very beautiful and not was not
Starting point is 00:45:05 she was she she she where you was I went to see to see a person
Starting point is 00:45:14 and he suspecting that he'd a bruja nothing infiel is what I thought
Starting point is 00:45:20 and he was like to know like that like he said but always
Starting point is 00:45:28 always they had a pretext a excuse a excuse so then he was
Starting point is 00:45:34 there and she not he was he was working and he no
Starting point is 00:45:37 he was when when he went to to he he was
Starting point is 00:45:41 Cenarone, like nothing. He said, yeah, well, we're going to do not. Yes,
Starting point is 00:45:46 they're going to do not he's not he's not so he took much, much, much, much
Starting point is 00:45:51 coffee. So, I was like with the eyes and I'm thinking that was
Starting point is 00:45:56 when I at the night, in the night, in the madrugated, she was
Starting point is 00:46:02 she was was getting literally of the car. Like, but not so,
Starting point is 00:46:07 so, he's of her mother. She was going to go to be with another, no? And he said that so, he opened, so he opened, and she was like, with much care of, and she was, like,
Starting point is 00:46:22 to do you know, to be a house, or not was a house like the case, like to be, with a place, and all. So, that's, you know, the door, that's all. So, from the quarter, and from the catre, you see, the kitchen. And in the kitchen, no, there was stufa. There was a fog.
Starting point is 00:46:35 she saw and he and he was like those senises that they're to come to go to
Starting point is 00:46:46 to work to come for that for the fogon and he thought I'm
Starting point is 00:46:52 thinking a little she a more she just she has she never more she
Starting point is 00:46:55 and when was the foegett the brasas other again
Starting point is 00:46:59 and she sent in a silla, this woman took a
Starting point is 00:47:07 cutichio with the car of the meat of the and the same and then
Starting point is 00:47:15 and of so, like if not necessary much a high
Starting point is 00:47:21 to the right he he said so he said that he said
Starting point is 00:47:29 he wanted to but also there much curiosity what
Starting point is 00:47:33 what is passing and and I was and I heard how the carne and the the
Starting point is 00:47:38 whole the he was and when he was this is very rare so
Starting point is 00:47:47 so he he left the and the the and the one and the
Starting point is 00:47:53 and he continued with the next and when he was sitting in the
Starting point is 00:47:59 chair the he was the other and the the
Starting point is 00:48:03 PIRNAS And, and the Cucillo he was there's a place, and from the
Starting point is 00:48:12 chair, the woman she left to go to the the and then he had
Starting point is 00:48:17 had been to be to get and he said that obviously from he was,
Starting point is 00:48:24 and he had had plumas. Between that he was revolcando,
Starting point is 00:48:30 the Pronto had plumbas. And it's convicto and a guajolote but grandotte. And this
Starting point is 00:48:38 thing stiro the slas, fling to the vento'a and he went
Starting point is 00:48:45 going. He heard how aletea and he was going. So, he was
Starting point is 00:48:52 saying that not he was going with much fear to the the
Starting point is 00:48:57 kitchen and there were the and there were the
Starting point is 00:49:02 but he's where there's the court that even could
Starting point is 00:49:08 be the rotula the was it was the and then the
Starting point is 00:49:14 the the the foot but not they had
Starting point is 00:49:19 sand so not was so falsas. So, it took one and
Starting point is 00:49:32 said that was free. And he saw the fire and the fire and it was arrojo
Starting point is 00:49:40 I said that the most strange of this is that, obviously, if you you have been
Starting point is 00:49:49 a bitas a piece of it, it's it's it's much
Starting point is 00:49:52 to get it's it's like these were of a
Starting point is 00:49:57 material Seco, although it was a humid, because rapidly they were
Starting point is 00:50:02 to come up to become in senises very very rapid, very rapid. And he
Starting point is 00:50:10 was not what did, no did what did, not to do
Starting point is 00:50:13 and he went to to the camera and he set on the camera, and he
Starting point is 00:50:18 kept thinking that the stories were reales and that her
Starting point is 00:50:23 were a woman in a bra what would do when
Starting point is 00:50:26 would when that says that he says that he's when of the point, when, of but he said, it's been passed at least a few of hours. He said the aletheed out of his house and he he gave much more
Starting point is 00:50:39 meadow. So, he kept there so, so, he went there, and he saw him through the ventana, and he, he said,
Starting point is 00:50:49 he saw the guajolote and, and when he was he, he said, he said that that he noted how that the head
Starting point is 00:51:03 that's a little and he went to be able to get to and he he's got to and he's
Starting point is 00:51:14 he was and he was to get umo and he started to get mar from
Starting point is 00:51:20 the inside while he revoloteable in the kitchen in the piece
Starting point is 00:51:25 with with umo and they they were so the cinicitas
Starting point is 00:51:31 and the the pedacitos of fire, you know they're
Starting point is 00:51:34 so, and in seconds that that guajolote kept also reduced to sinises.
Starting point is 00:51:45 It was for a costal. Barriot the canisas and let you
Starting point is 00:51:51 into the costal it, he was he went to the mountain where he
Starting point is 00:51:57 he had seen for first he he's a and he
Starting point is 00:52:03 terror. That's the story of the story of the first woman. First and ultimate.
Starting point is 00:52:17 It's what I say, the really, I was going to say, the fact, but... No, manches. It's
Starting point is 00:52:21 that... I've heard some some stories in the past of that just if the members that
Starting point is 00:52:28 they're going, or they're they're or they're they're, or those endierran, they're,
Starting point is 00:52:34 they're, they're Very bad, because without that they can return. And this this
Starting point is 00:52:40 this sir he was hemo? But what great instinct of
Starting point is 00:52:45 superviency no? So, so he was, and it's like, no,
Starting point is 00:52:49 it's like, he was to be to get to attack or something, just
Starting point is 00:52:55 just so just just and so so, but, but
Starting point is 00:52:59 that's that, that they were that they were that you You told me,
Starting point is 00:53:04 you know, the guajolote that I was like, like, I'm sorry, I said, no, manches. No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:53:10 that's horrible, eh. How, the basica. So, the, the, uh, the, the, uh,
Starting point is 00:53:13 the, the, uh, this, has, this, uh, this, uh,
Starting point is 00:53:20 also, also, that's, that's, you, you're, you, you,
Starting point is 00:53:24 no, was Saul. This, this, of, the, that was, the,
Starting point is 00:53:28 that was, the, the, the, the, a people and that a a chick percied
Starting point is 00:53:33 a person because suspecting something and sawpatchable the person and saw get a machete and he got a machete and he got to the part of the
Starting point is 00:53:42 and it was he was able to find out of the time but here I thought that it was like they were like they were to
Starting point is 00:53:50 start a and when when they were not connected but when when it was they left to to
Starting point is 00:53:56 get to to get to uh... uh... yeah not functioned well
Starting point is 00:53:59 something like that you did it was put all the thing it's a question of the
Starting point is 00:54:03 it's curious that all the other people that's that's in a little bit about the
Starting point is 00:54:09 don't of the gila of but in the process where Carlos is is a
Starting point is 00:54:15 actually is that is being being being in a awal the
Starting point is 00:54:19 the instructions that he does don't don't don't exactly
Starting point is 00:54:22 so that your and you're you is very long
Starting point is 00:54:26 the description but literally it saying, let's your members
Starting point is 00:54:30 and it and it but no manches. It's that's what to me perturba.
Starting point is 00:54:37 How can be there there's that there's there's there's that people that can't,
Starting point is 00:54:42 they're they're they're to turn to transformers, I said, I, I do I
Starting point is 00:54:46 do something, I think is a way to show to show to show to the
Starting point is 00:54:53 reality that you know that you can't transform in what it's
Starting point is 00:55:00 it's it's a logic it's it's like because you're they're
Starting point is 00:55:04 they're you're you're put in the little 15 years now now cutate
Starting point is 00:55:10 the time no man no let me so then then
Starting point is 00:55:13 so so yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's
Starting point is 00:55:19 that's it's it's like like like like it's like
Starting point is 00:55:23 it's like like like like like like kind of
Starting point is 00:55:27 that's a is a is a know, it's, like if you could have you can't
Starting point is 00:55:34 you can't you know, so you can't control it to change it, you can't what you know, and
Starting point is 00:55:39 for us dole and no sangran. I just think that maybe, I mean, not in
Starting point is 00:55:44 all the other cases of nagualism for here, me it's like, we've
Starting point is 00:55:47 we've been in agalism because it's a animal, but it's a bruca, but not
Starting point is 00:55:51 a bruca of a woman, but that that's a creature that can be
Starting point is 00:55:56 in a ball the fire. Yes, yeah, because it's because it's a very rare the fact that
Starting point is 00:55:59 that's, I mean, never nobody he was called in a crime because it's like that person no existier,
Starting point is 00:56:04 that was reduced to the penises and the little was like, was like he was like, it was like
Starting point is 00:56:10 no it was there's, no, there was there's, it was like, like, like,
Starting point is 00:56:15 like, like, so, oh, what impact, now, I think, if,
Starting point is 00:56:22 if, if we're we're we're we're created an idea of this
Starting point is 00:56:27 type of nagualism so why the documents most the document most the
Starting point is 00:56:33 same time they're saying, well, they're saying literally the mutilation of the moutylations
Starting point is 00:56:40 at the moment to do you do you docent the Santa Inquisition because
Starting point is 00:56:45 it was the cards of relation that they were in the New Spain to Spain
Starting point is 00:56:50 to because because because because since they've they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:56:54 If someone could think that are false or invented or inventals of because they're since a few years. In different regions,
Starting point is 00:57:03 not it's like that someone is like that someone's like that exactly. Existing the repetition without the other
Starting point is 00:57:10 other place. Ah, exactly. That's, so, so, but we're going to go to this.
Starting point is 00:57:15 We're going to go to this. Well, I think that I'm to me? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Okay. For the people that are you are you are seeing, ohio, with this story, if you're very sensible, there are to have to have much careful because this story contains things very feas,
Starting point is 00:57:30 very croentas, very horrible, and I want to have much careful the moment of that they're listening. It's my ultimate story, for that I gave at final, because me it's of the stories most brutals that I've heard, and it's
Starting point is 00:57:44 where really you're just really you know, that the stories of Naguil's not-s-cuntus. This story is called The Nahual of the Sierra and
Starting point is 00:57:52 the man Juan Rosales Juan says saying dirigently to you Fepo
Starting point is 00:57:58 if you think you your thank you if you want to you're thank you
Starting point is 00:58:04 not thanks for I'm sorry this history this history in a serradero in the
Starting point is 00:58:12 Sierra of Durango says that Juan was that was as vigilance. Of actually, I'm
Starting point is 00:58:20 investigating and the Sierra of Durango is like one of the places more fructiferous to cutar so there's a great coincidence.
Starting point is 00:58:29 He says that he was he was in this acerrador until the night for his labor was
Starting point is 00:58:34 to begillar justly that people a serrader and they were and robarine madder. So the
Starting point is 00:58:40 work of Juan was simple. Vigilar in the night and if there something
Starting point is 00:58:44 was to try to to defend what there there. For this, I contaba with two perros,
Starting point is 00:58:50 that were two pastor Alemann. These perros were very bravos, they're perros grandes,
Starting point is 00:58:56 were not trained as well, they're of these perils that they're that they're to protect the space
Starting point is 00:59:01 where they are delimitando. And they were quite to Juan, then he, during the nights
Starting point is 00:59:07 he would he'd be done his rondines. He said was an serrador not so
Starting point is 00:59:12 so much so it was there was a alert in all the moment soltable the
Starting point is 00:59:17 dogs, he'd give a water, and he was up to the casetita where
Starting point is 00:59:21 was he had the sierra because there were nights of much frio
Starting point is 00:59:26 Durango is a very extreme or as much cold or as much
Starting point is 00:59:31 can be in a cold so. So, he he's he starts a
Starting point is 00:59:37 night a night, he's how his perros start to get
Starting point is 00:59:44 They're playing between them because it was very common that they were they were in they were and they were
Starting point is 00:59:50 levy, or they were or they were to be in front, but that night he was the noise like rarous
Starting point is 00:59:56 first he began the and then and then per and then per and he said he'd have been lastimated
Starting point is 01:00:05 between and he he's called something very very very heard
Starting point is 01:00:11 he's like he turned to a little. And it was when he said, oh, yes, it's me that's just, he's lastimed those perros. He took a arm of fire that he had,
Starting point is 01:00:21 that, for sure, he said, only he had a ball. So, he took the arm, he put it atras in the cintura, took a lampara and he went to looking to his perros, and he was to call. No put in the
Starting point is 01:00:36 names, but he said to to call to the perros, to chiflars. No, there was a long there was a little bit of
Starting point is 01:00:42 a question. Conform he went coming to, he was to see something to look with the lampa
Starting point is 01:00:53 and he saw the and he was that he was trying to to be to get to and he was
Starting point is 01:01:00 his eyes' and it was like the person he said, I'm when he
Starting point is 01:01:05 when he was to light with the lampara because they were in total
Starting point is 01:01:09 obscur obscurity and here is where I'm I'm going to tell. A the perro he felt a little bit. It was what I've heard that's tron. The perritte was he was crying but yeah, I said it was
Starting point is 01:01:22 he was very lastimated of his coo'estead of his co-ozo. So, I rancada? Yes, yes, no, I didn't. And the perritty was, he was, he said, coyotes, lobo, no I don't know the menor idea
Starting point is 01:01:36 if he's met even a felon of the I don't have the minor idea but I don't know what he said he's going to
Starting point is 01:01:45 he's doing the the coo he's he's semi-destroased no he was
Starting point is 01:01:50 a patita he was he said he said he was he was he was he
Starting point is 01:01:56 he gotchow he he he the perro only he was he was
Starting point is 01:02:01 he was he was he said he he he said he was no he's suffering
Starting point is 01:02:07 much no Oh, Pardon. And it and it and it but
Starting point is 01:02:17 there was there. Oh, no, God. Yeah, I was too he said, I know
Starting point is 01:02:24 I know what did, I'm going to come to there. There's a part of the story
Starting point is 01:02:29 that me is important to make here, that says, I don't if it was a waual,
Starting point is 01:02:35 I don't see if it was another other other thing. We're here, the
Starting point is 01:02:40 we decided we met this story in agualism because it was it was a while. Sin embargo, he no says that it was an agual, not affirmed, only he said he said he said, only he said, he said, only he said, he said, he's going to the night, buskawal another perro desperated, chiflandolm, yam-lough, y'amble, yeah no-h-h-h-h-whip-you-respression. I'd hear if, too, too, was lostimed,
Starting point is 01:03:05 to see he could save or do something for him, and then he was to come to make to a part of the cerrador that was
Starting point is 01:03:12 a little quartito where they were they were little smallings and they were they were
Starting point is 01:03:18 for some I imagine for the for leonia or something and that he was where he was
Starting point is 01:03:23 to hear I'm not he heard of the perro no he used the yant
Starting point is 01:03:28 of a and he he's he's and he and tronid like as
Starting point is 01:03:38 you're mastic a moustaking he did much MEDO, I was a
Starting point is 01:03:44 A lot of a man, without ballas, for sure, and a lamp alumbed in the
Starting point is 01:03:52 quarter. He said what he was a thing that was a little in the was a
Starting point is 01:03:59 person a bird, lobo being strange, he said that the
Starting point is 01:04:07 back was too large it. It was that the column vertebral
Starting point is 01:04:13 was mark for the delgado of the car had a pillow
Starting point is 01:04:17 isolated in various parts of the body. There's a particular. He said
Starting point is 01:04:22 that he said that he said he said they were not they're not as they're
Starting point is 01:04:29 men's but what he saw he left he he saw he saw perro
Starting point is 01:04:37 what he was masticando were the restos of the other perro
Starting point is 01:04:42 he he was he was he was he was destrozzles and and what tron about
Starting point is 01:04:48 were the wussitos yeah yeah yeah no you yeah no
Starting point is 01:04:53 he was he he had in cachitos he he he's he said
Starting point is 01:04:59 when he he's that when he alumra this center in the this
Starting point is 01:05:03 kind of like the said he said he no he did no he
Starting point is 01:05:08 didn't he he simply he he he he
Starting point is 01:05:12 he he he mastic masticando. But he he's shocked
Starting point is 01:05:18 seeing this with this with the lampra but there's there's a moment
Starting point is 01:05:22 in the he had the arm of the hand and this being he was
Starting point is 01:05:29 where he he was he he he he he he
Starting point is 01:05:34 two two passes the the the the being
Starting point is 01:05:38 when Juan he was he but he was
Starting point is 01:05:42 he He was just parriding to all what he'd While he'd He'd just to do that He'd hear a trot He'd he'd He'd be doing He'd say he'd
Starting point is 01:05:55 He'd he'd He'd he'd He'd he'd He'd he'd He'd He'd He'd he'd He'd he'd
Starting point is 01:06:05 He'd he'd He'd he'd He'd he'd He'd he'd clearly-cernation How'd His pesu-o'os Or his
Starting point is 01:06:14 Cerns'uns in his car, I mean, it was it transpas literally,
Starting point is 01:06:18 and in that moment something, something, and he said, my wessus,
Starting point is 01:06:22 and I just he just said, and I know what to do the the
Starting point is 01:06:29 pain in the was too, simply came to the piece, he was to be
Starting point is 01:06:34 so apco and he per die the time the day after they
Starting point is 01:06:41 found those hours after the people that get because
Starting point is 01:06:44 record we're not at these the time, these are the five or four at the morning to work, yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:51 very late to go to work at the six to work, because they're they're doing the day from
Starting point is 01:06:55 it's of there's been there's there's there's and they're done and what
Starting point is 01:07:01 they did the companyers is rapidly to get it in one of the car, camionettes
Starting point is 01:07:05 that they were to the hospital more more that that were
Starting point is 01:07:09 when when they came the the night, he and the perros had been attacked by loboes or coyotes of the sierra.
Starting point is 01:07:20 The version was that had been a manada that was about and it's for that they had destroyed to the perrits and he only had been left
Starting point is 01:07:29 the morrida in the breast. He said that that was what was he was a only animal the one little the two pastor
Starting point is 01:07:39 a man and the that he mordiouled the brazo. But remember that when this bestia, he felt he he thought that
Starting point is 01:07:47 something he was going to the, the infirmary, I imagine that was by this part, I imagined
Starting point is 01:07:53 for this part, when he was revising to the doctor and he was curing, he was, he he asked, he said,
Starting point is 01:08:01 no, no, no, you know, no, you have averture that I'm suturar, but,
Starting point is 01:08:08 but, before, to suturate, pardon, you're going to have to clean up because
Starting point is 01:08:12 you're bava of the animal that he he said okay there's a way he
Starting point is 01:08:22 no it's limpeas it's a fast it's a kind of like a a hotone
Starting point is 01:08:27 of hospital no see spumita you I'm so we suturamos and we
Starting point is 01:08:33 let me he said well when the when the infirmer when the when the
Starting point is 01:08:38 gasita and he he says oh yeah you have something you're you
Starting point is 01:08:43 what is something I met a pincer and when he's a little you is a
Starting point is 01:08:51 human not a a unna a beastia not a a pesuja a lobo of a coyote
Starting point is 01:09:01 he's so you was a a long mugrosa and a and he said how did
Starting point is 01:09:08 this he said he he said I don't the menor idea I'm the manor idea I was
Starting point is 01:09:12 I was where you had said but simply he He says They can or not believe in my story how he's been
Starting point is 01:09:19 going to pass the long can think that this is a minute, that's not do you don't even
Starting point is 01:09:24 do you can't do it. Simply listen what I'm because this that I'm talking is real. He said to
Starting point is 01:09:32 the infirmary a night I suffered an attack so and so probably probably when I enterre at
Starting point is 01:09:37 this oonia that was in the person the o'ne the infirmary simply the
Starting point is 01:09:43 She was with asco, and he let he tore. The suturred and he's retiro. He said that never more he went to the Serrador. The story terminate, with the sutura of
Starting point is 01:10:01 his, but after what he was he was he was very affected for two things, one for what he saw, two, for the herida that
Starting point is 01:10:10 and three, and more important, I think the impression more important, not was to be a gull or what he's seen, is to be a his perros.
Starting point is 01:10:20 That's what really he really, that's really that's his perrits. In parts. To me,
Starting point is 01:10:28 me, it was very that I, when he was chiled, when he was he was he ranco the
Starting point is 01:10:35 uh, yeah, he was he he was he was so, he put it with a he tron-
Starting point is 01:10:41 Oh, that, for that he he was he, Yeah, because I don't understand why he was Chilli, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll do.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Wow. The suspicion of that could be a while proviener precisely of that it was a pseunia. No, well, it was a
Starting point is 01:10:56 human. It's that what I view is very rare, no? Mm-hmm. It's very rare. But the description was,
Starting point is 01:11:03 it was, it was, the torso very great. Oh, no. For the rest of the body, no? So,
Starting point is 01:11:09 like, the torso, like, very, very long, and what he was that not they were not they were
Starting point is 01:11:16 like like a like a patterned hands, hands that were like they're
Starting point is 01:11:21 in certain parts of the and a and a a ser extrano not was a
Starting point is 01:11:32 not an a man lobo not was it was not it's not
Starting point is 01:11:35 not notas not no fatos patos no so
Starting point is 01:11:41 what horrible. The I suffered horrible, the little the little the little
Starting point is 01:11:46 the little. But oh. I still I've had been an idea
Starting point is 01:11:51 wow. Right I'm going to say. Okay. And I know the
Starting point is 01:11:56 million. Segun I'm a locuror but it's super interesting they're scared
Starting point is 01:12:03 they're really. You're still with your perils and a lampara and a
Starting point is 01:12:10 ball. But why did so that. I was very desperated with that.
Starting point is 01:12:14 I mean, I mean, or to have only a ball? I think can't have a,
Starting point is 01:12:20 a reason. A little no way to use it, no? Well, yeah, but if
Starting point is 01:12:27 not, why you do you think you see that people, you're saying, yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:32 you're, yeah, and they're and they're no- no-so. It's logic. Then I
Starting point is 01:12:39 do you do you do, I'd say, well, so, Or at the most that day, I'd try yeah, a lot of the other
Starting point is 01:12:44 were in a carita in the screener or something. Or is what they they're doing. Or is what they they're doing. It's what they're but yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:51 yeah. Pover. Well, well, a bit, you know, you're talking, right?
Starting point is 01:12:58 Okay. This story also is anonym. Okay. So, they're called the Naguels of
Starting point is 01:13:06 Fuego. Well, us told this person that his family is of the Barrio
Starting point is 01:13:13 of San Juan of Ascaposalco okay this is important because in this
Starting point is 01:13:18 area they're they're there there there that there there
Starting point is 01:13:25 had a capacity to change to make to make to other people
Starting point is 01:13:29 to even even like to to use to
Starting point is 01:13:33 and that the people that that was that
Starting point is 01:13:36 there for all this is important that know that they know what
Starting point is 01:13:42 they used is that they're in the house they'd like a fogon put in a fire
Starting point is 01:13:48 and they put them and they're not so they're to make the this senisa
Starting point is 01:13:53 they used to try the mais and could make the next tamal that's
Starting point is 01:13:58 also to make um um uh for a um so
Starting point is 01:14:03 so far so they're so then they they're so they're so they they're
Starting point is 01:14:08 all the night. He he said that those abuelos were in this in his house and they're
Starting point is 01:14:15 they're they're in all right and at the side of where they were just this madder
Starting point is 01:14:22 came and they started to hear from the abel so I'm and he not,
Starting point is 01:14:30 no, not more says that he's he's said that he's not even
Starting point is 01:14:34 he did much important until that When when it's when it's for the
Starting point is 01:14:40 senisa, he does know that he's all moving and all taken and he's noho
Starting point is 01:14:47 a good. And he said, I needed this, to do you to what I did get to do you,
Starting point is 01:14:53 he said, he said, there's there's going to here, justly for what
Starting point is 01:14:58 she got to be. So, so, a night can't, she was like,
Starting point is 01:15:03 she was like, and I did it, that's, all, the that, of the fire
Starting point is 01:15:07 very high. They were to doorme but the old was not was a little was quite. She was
Starting point is 01:15:14 worried because he was to get to get to the little bit of the so that's
Starting point is 01:15:20 so I could hear to hear a little out of and he is an animal
Starting point is 01:15:25 and he he's he's and he saw that it was he was that was
Starting point is 01:15:32 around the and like he's kind of It was looking. No can't see
Starting point is 01:15:37 what is, because there was a like a summer. And it's kept being and it
Starting point is 01:15:41 gets to get a flama. And when he was a woman there was a man.
Starting point is 01:15:50 And the man was completely desnued. And he he started around the,
Starting point is 01:15:57 the, like the fogat for so saying it and just trying that's
Starting point is 01:16:00 going to the 100% like the fire. and he was being and he started
Starting point is 01:16:04 and he started and he started to move to a form of a window and she's back and it
Starting point is 01:16:14 and starts like embarrars in the senisa and he and no he doesn't detain
Starting point is 01:16:20 and she end barrading the senisa he he's in panic and he he's a
Starting point is 01:16:26 he's be in be he he's assom for the ventana and this man
Starting point is 01:16:33 he has had had done the But he So, what he saw a
Starting point is 01:16:38 a man desnude retortying moving the carder, vying to his house. No manches.
Starting point is 01:16:45 So he said, I want to abuse of my daughter and my wife and no I'm going
Starting point is 01:16:52 to do you. Igarro a tross of the madera, he was he was and
Starting point is 01:16:58 he no he was he was he and he after that he decided to get to
Starting point is 01:17:03 keep to to to hear it. He's heard in on pisthas. Volta about, and no
Starting point is 01:17:11 there was nothing. And he started that groinia in the he's he said,
Starting point is 01:17:17 and he said that there was a big, but it was a little bit of a lobo, but it was like a
Starting point is 01:17:25 little, but just he kept with a truce of the matter of the person, and she was coming as He was just
Starting point is 01:17:37 the perro's He went on two patas. Oh, and he's he's he he gets
Starting point is 01:17:41 being. He's like this smile, this sonrisa of a dog oh,
Starting point is 01:17:45 he said, he said, he said, he said, he's going to get to disquisied, so he
Starting point is 01:17:57 said, he said, he said, he was that the only that I'm to get and to get and
Starting point is 01:18:04 to get and to peg and to peg and to begin and this animal was made a a little,
Starting point is 01:18:08 like grunia, he'd bejured, and he was he'd begand and he'd have in the head in the head, and he started
Starting point is 01:18:15 to see to get to get to be the carmnsion of the time to start and pegando and said that
Starting point is 01:18:23 he'd say that he'd and he was going and he'd and he and he'd until
Starting point is 01:18:28 he'd so one very in the head and he's going the
Starting point is 01:18:32 perr. And he he went so the matter with the Like, no, so he was up.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Avented the madera, entro to her house, and he said, the mom, what happened? Well, what was the woman? What, what? No, yeah. No, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:50 No, it was to be good. No, no. We're going to go ahead. We're going to go to bed. At the morning next, his
Starting point is 01:18:59 husband, he wrote, and he said, I don't want to talk about the only, only we're going to to do not we're going to
Starting point is 01:19:08 do we're going to do with another thing but you don't want to put a fire out and you
Starting point is 01:19:12 not going to put sinis out there and not more. And they still on his way
Starting point is 01:19:18 and a day, not very very very he went to come to come
Starting point is 01:19:25 a little a tindita and he passed for a pass
Starting point is 01:19:29 and I feel a mirate horrible and he he was
Starting point is 01:19:34 looking, Voltae to the guy that he was the guy was he said to get a
Starting point is 01:19:42 little bit of the type of had the costillas lastimated and had an erred in the
Starting point is 01:19:47 head of the and he got the and he kept being being with my family
Starting point is 01:19:55 not you metas but really I'm really he was he's
Starting point is 01:20:01 his things and he he's he and he They were from that people. Oh, it's been
Starting point is 01:20:13 he said to the back when you said that you said, I'm sure you. Look, just recently that we
Starting point is 01:20:18 talked about about what you do you have, you know, I'm going to a great motivation that was to be,
Starting point is 01:20:25 I'm going to talk, I mean, me valid if you're an agual, a man, lobo,
Starting point is 01:20:29 but he went to a lot, but how it's more more important, no, because he
Starting point is 01:20:34 he's a thing in seco with a pano? Yes. And no. And,
Starting point is 01:20:38 and it He still, I mean, I mean, lastimed but, after that he was too,
Starting point is 01:20:44 he was no, yeah, I'm going and I'm going no. But he just, but she
Starting point is 01:20:49 was, yeah, yeah, to be so, yeah, to be in tumid, to get,
Starting point is 01:20:53 no, no, manches. Wow, what history, eh? Woo, fiat,
Starting point is 01:21:00 that those stories are those are that they're that they're because, I don't
Starting point is 01:21:04 they're in that Chiro of Tuercas at the final, as a final, like it has a story that we're saying, and you know, but what happened?
Starting point is 01:21:10 It's been in the war? Yeah, so, or it's a story real. No, but nobody to be to believe. Nobody.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Because are stories real. Of course, I remember many of the first stories that we were and I said,
Starting point is 01:21:22 but what happened? No? And me more fear to know what? What? I remember this
Starting point is 01:21:28 that, that were coming the animals to the sheora and they said they got her
Starting point is 01:21:33 a machete and he metier there to get to get a to make that the machete
Starting point is 01:21:39 like if if there's someone and so he did the she did the day next
Starting point is 01:21:45 the back she was a bed and also another where
Starting point is 01:21:51 where yeah yeah she was yeah she was she was she
Starting point is 01:21:54 she was she are all or all people people that
Starting point is 01:22:04 simply learn to learn to think there there's there's there's
Starting point is 01:22:08 there I think there there oh, no, what perturador I'm
Starting point is 01:22:14 to start to start to start yeah, yeah, yeah, many, thank,
Starting point is 01:22:18 many thanks, thank, that story I'm most much, much,
Starting point is 01:22:23 much, much, much, um, well, this, this story is
Starting point is 01:22:28 called Tetlanokan. Tetlanokan. And it's anonym. In fact, at principle, this man says that, well, he'll write the history
Starting point is 01:22:44 and this experience that he had heard, because he has heard that many times, the people that mann their stories here, like we
Starting point is 01:22:56 we're deducing of some form that maybe they're to do you
Starting point is 01:23:01 know, you know, that's a story, no, that's like a way,
Starting point is 01:23:07 because, well, by doing a question, I said, I know that, well,
Starting point is 01:23:16 the people not me will be to know, but every that I think I
Starting point is 01:23:20 think I feel so, I'm very, so I'm, so, so, so I,
Starting point is 01:23:24 so. So, I'm, so much, of me and forget it and forget it for
Starting point is 01:23:28 always. He said this occurred when he was a young, was still a young
Starting point is 01:23:35 of a young, but yeah and so at the point of the past of the
Starting point is 01:23:40 18 years, I calculate that I think I would have one of 16 and
Starting point is 01:23:43 well, and then, I've been in a public, who is a community rural.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Okay. That's is San Francisco Tetlanokan that's more than 20 minutes of
Starting point is 01:24:00 than the people know that's the Scala so well they're there's much much
Starting point is 01:24:08 time when he had this age vivia his mom his papa and his
Starting point is 01:24:13 so his father as much of his family have been dedicated to cultivate
Starting point is 01:24:18 to make and there there were and they were actually now we
Starting point is 01:24:23 don't live Well, there we'd, no. He said that he'd record that the life of camp was very hard. Since he was a young, and the father yeah, he was to get him,
Starting point is 01:24:33 for he was learning to all this. But the papa he, when he grew up, not vivier in this community rural, he'd have to study, that, that was that,
Starting point is 01:24:44 and that justly, for that, in that occasion, yeah, he'd have a much time, that he said, he to his papa, I'd say, I'd say,
Starting point is 01:24:53 no. the end of the time, you study. Study. Study. Of really, you need to
Starting point is 01:24:59 get to get to do you. Studia. And in that occasion, he was he was studying in the
Starting point is 01:25:06 house, and his father, and his father, he went to to work, he's,
Starting point is 01:25:11 that there's there's a circle, that's a, well, a little a little
Starting point is 01:25:18 that they said the malinche. I'm not the I don't know, I'm and for that's
Starting point is 01:25:22 where I was the father. So, the papa, he had had been
Starting point is 01:25:28 to work and that was too to get to get to get to the patio, and in the
Starting point is 01:25:34 patio is where I do my work, not, so, so, so,
Starting point is 01:25:38 so, so, so, so, so, to be to be to be
Starting point is 01:25:43 a, he's a burro, then, then, then, so,
Starting point is 01:25:46 he's, he, He's a He's He's a He says Carga the Burrow and
Starting point is 01:25:53 He came He went He went And he went with And the He was with He was very Because
Starting point is 01:25:59 He had much He had much And then Now were a A pair of Menos That he He would
Starting point is 01:26:05 Because now His son He said To be a So Even The Papa He said
Starting point is 01:26:09 So, Well, Ma'am Me'am Me'am Me'am M'erer I'm
Starting point is 01:26:15 I'm I'm He was too and, do it, and do, and do with, and do, and do,
Starting point is 01:26:19 and do, and do, and down. It's, he was cargues, and he made out of
Starting point is 01:26:24 a bit of a little too, and I see that's that I'm so can't that's that's a
Starting point is 01:26:30 little, and he said, I'm going to sit to a restan a rattit before, and I
Starting point is 01:26:36 to go, and he sent it, he was, he was, he was, and no know what
Starting point is 01:26:41 he said, he was he went, but profoundly to be concerned whenceitiously when
Starting point is 01:26:48 of the when you know, you know, maybe it's like the alerted to you're getting the eyes
Starting point is 01:26:58 the night no, no, it was not no, no, he's not and he said
Starting point is 01:27:06 to do, no, me keep dormied, no, no, no, and so, and so,
Starting point is 01:27:11 so, so like, like I said that tried to open the eyes the more than could
Starting point is 01:27:14 to to look to his burrow. And the burrow not was there. No.
Starting point is 01:27:22 And it was kind of kind of that his eyes, you know, maybe they've had
Starting point is 01:27:25 been used to the night, maybe be it. Because not is the same, the
Starting point is 01:27:31 night in the city or what we know we know, there in the
Starting point is 01:27:34 middle of the nada, it's like the way of the dog, so
Starting point is 01:27:37 no, no, you not but he said that he did
Starting point is 01:27:40 that That's the way. That's the that's that's to do and come and come to
Starting point is 01:27:46 get and come in the way and so it's a mind of the burros, although not have been a light, if
Starting point is 01:27:56 of a point you have to they're to come the way and they're not
Starting point is 01:28:00 they're that's that's they're they're they're going to they're and they
Starting point is 01:28:05 they're so they're when they when he when he's my burrow has been to
Starting point is 01:28:11 be there or he got to get to come to come to come in trying to try to local
Starting point is 01:28:17 the burrow and he he's to hear of the way the and there's yeah,
Starting point is 01:28:24 yeah, there's my burrow and he starts to go to to go to to go to
Starting point is 01:28:27 to go to to go to to come to get a back to the vera that's he's much more
Starting point is 01:28:32 able to be more and he he was a birdro there's there's God
Starting point is 01:28:38 no no no And, and, also the burrow and was
Starting point is 01:28:42 cargated with the costals of the and he's he's, no, well,
Starting point is 01:28:45 when he gets to get where he's he's he's he's
Starting point is 01:28:50 he's he's coming and when he when he want to get
Starting point is 01:28:55 of the yeah, the of what they're he's he's he said
Starting point is 01:29:01 what he he he he he he's he he's
Starting point is 01:29:07 he's so he's a perro great fego negro
Starting point is 01:29:15 that of the ocico was he was he was hailed the he was
Starting point is 01:29:22 he was he was robing the he he he saw he
Starting point is 01:29:27 he saw he was the first he's the person so
Starting point is 01:29:31 he and he he for sure he said
Starting point is 01:29:35 he he he always always always always that he's
Starting point is 01:29:39 a rifle a rifle caliber a two that is a
Starting point is 01:29:45 very very but he said no you know you know you know
Starting point is 01:29:48 but there's people there so it's better so
Starting point is 01:29:53 and when he was he's he's robing the burro he was
Starting point is 01:29:58 so in the obscurity he he he took the rifle
Starting point is 01:30:01 and and with the part of the he
Starting point is 01:30:05 he he he So, not is like that's like that they're in suavecito, dole
Starting point is 01:30:11 much too. Sueltah! Seltah! He started to get to and he was and he was more hard
Starting point is 01:30:18 and he was more faster and he'd go back to and bam pamp he was
Starting point is 01:30:24 to get but yeah very very strong and in that moment when he he pega
Starting point is 01:30:30 really with really with much force the the perro the crue to
Starting point is 01:30:33 the the world to see to look to to be and he
Starting point is 01:30:37 He said, I don't me pegs! No, you know you do you
Starting point is 01:30:41 don't me pegges? And his only reaction was going to get to him,
Starting point is 01:30:49 he he was he he was and the perro he started to come in
Starting point is 01:30:55 like to back the and he still still was like trying
Starting point is 01:31:05 to try to understand what was what was what was what was
Starting point is 01:31:08 what was what was he had paro of the burrow,
Starting point is 01:31:14 the machete. And he said that he was something he was something he's
Starting point is 01:31:21 not a person. The perro was pared in two patas
Starting point is 01:31:26 but yeah not was it was enormous more more
Starting point is 01:31:33 than he he was he was from the back
Starting point is 01:31:41 the man he took the machete and He even
Starting point is 01:31:46 of him. He had the rifle so, and that was so impressive to see
Starting point is 01:31:54 to see a thing, because not was a person. He said the ocico, while
Starting point is 01:32:00 he was going to him, and he he let he let's the machetazzo and he did he.
Starting point is 01:32:11 He said that the pain terrible and no know how he he turned
Starting point is 01:32:18 the rifle boom! he he He started running. How could, he subed to burrow,
Starting point is 01:32:29 and he did he went to come in. This man, well, yeah, mayor, but a man, but a manned
Starting point is 01:32:36 the history, he said that in the house were preoccupiedissimo. Perucadisimus. They said, what was my papa,
Starting point is 01:32:44 where's my father? And it was, the idea was we're going to comeinando until that we
Starting point is 01:32:48 know, he has to have to go back. He has to be very the burrow.
Starting point is 01:32:55 And he said, I came my Papa. Abren and he's coming
Starting point is 01:33:00 the burrow and the papa and he on so. And when they were
Starting point is 01:33:07 he went, he did the the area? No, man. No,
Starting point is 01:33:13 no, no, no, no, horrible. So, of the fact, the
Starting point is 01:33:17 father was being inconsient. And he is the bad to live
Starting point is 01:33:21 in these in these zones. No there hospital. The hospital is to Tlaskala.
Starting point is 01:33:29 No, there's hospital. No, there's a doctor. That what they've got to do, in that moment, were with some people that are like the residents, that are the curanderos local. That's,
Starting point is 01:33:42 help us, help us. When they were, who got it? Who knows? So, who knows? So, so it went, and all. They applied a tourniquet, he was started to
Starting point is 01:33:54 limpire, they started to work with the papa, they said, mani, you have to get to get
Starting point is 01:34:00 to get to do it's a, he's like, he's about, so he's so muched, because someone had
Starting point is 01:34:08 attacked his papa, someone had attacked his and the chism you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:34:13 so it's very rapid, they're, no, what happened, what happened, what happened? Someone attacked
Starting point is 01:34:18 my papa? Where? The burrow went to the the way. We're going. No, but we're
Starting point is 01:34:26 right. Homes were like five and he. Machetes, rifles, and they
Starting point is 01:34:35 were going to get to the and they were they were the culpable because
Starting point is 01:34:44 there was a raster of the that he was to the mountain. He was
Starting point is 01:34:50 there, the machete and a perro that had a ballast in the
Starting point is 01:34:57 Cuello. The Papa that he said that no human
Starting point is 01:35:07 that a that a that was a yeah, yeah no, he was
Starting point is 01:35:17 yeah, he was he was at the back to but he was he was
Starting point is 01:35:21 he was a animal he was well, it was a man he was
Starting point is 01:35:26 that but I'm that I remember what you told in the story
Starting point is 01:35:30 So, here never there's no one no one but but he
Starting point is 01:35:39 he was and he he was he said I was I was I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:35:46 he said he said no there's no there and the father
Starting point is 01:35:51 no he never well it's that we know we're it's interesting to
Starting point is 01:35:56 say if it's it's disappeared someone It's a demoniaco. Oh, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:36:03 I mean, I know, because no there's a human that's that's or it's
Starting point is 01:36:11 or it's or it or so. Oh, no. Who knows? No manches. You know,
Starting point is 01:36:19 you know, is a perro to put in a pie so, so, I think I think
Starting point is 01:36:23 I'm the I mean, I mean, so, so, I mean, so, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:26 so that they're, because so, And is that, fiat, that I've heard I've heard of Naguales, located justly in Tla Scala,
Starting point is 01:36:37 Puebla. In serious? Yes, there are many. There are much, there's in Tlaaskala. No, I know. Of course, only, like,
Starting point is 01:36:42 I don't know if you knew that the Institute National of Anthropology and History put to to work to work scientists and anthropologists,
Starting point is 01:36:49 for the purpose, to recabar stories of Nahualism in Puebla. No. Sincla, but in Puebla, yes.
Starting point is 01:36:56 And where most extrajorn stories of Nagualism is of Puebla of the communities Nahuas
Starting point is 01:37:02 and Totonacas and they they're like a a treasure real for them. That's
Starting point is 01:37:09 really. It's real. That's real. I know it. I know I was able. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 01:37:17 this, I want, I want, I want to give a favor. Yes, but not
Starting point is 01:37:21 only only you're I want to ask to the people that are doing
Starting point is 01:37:25 or listening or me make um, this, this,
Starting point is 01:37:30 this, um, if they're the favor first, of the same our social and platforms
Starting point is 01:37:35 for that we can't say one thing. Okay. So, well, me me he's like
Starting point is 01:37:39 Maria mouse, M-A-U-S in any platform. A me as aroba Fernex 22.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Very good. A me like FEPP MX, right that you did you know
Starting point is 01:37:47 of Tla the clasala, um, I'm I'm worried of something, and, this,
Starting point is 01:37:52 I'm going to explain the why Tlasala me remember this, but I wanted to share something that is very private and that
Starting point is 01:38:00 me seems very important. Because we've talked much of these things, experiences, no, rare as that has the people, but also there are other type of experiences that are inexplicable for the
Starting point is 01:38:13 human, but are, simply existent, and there's there's despondent in many, muchism, muchest stories. The chapter the past
Starting point is 01:38:23 that we're the three, I said, I'm the, uh,
Starting point is 01:38:30 a photographia that I took a much, much time in Acapulco
Starting point is 01:38:35 because my papa and my, one of my, are my are identical. Mm.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Mm. Mm. Mm. Yes, I'm a this, um, lamentably
Starting point is 01:38:44 my brother passed a better and he's, and so,
Starting point is 01:38:50 it's so I made so It's like curious the fact that I mentioned
Starting point is 01:38:53 and that and that we're talking to Clascal it's me is curious so I'm so I'm
Starting point is 01:39:00 so I'm to put that that photographia for that the people that can see the not going to
Starting point is 01:39:08 see the right of my brother but are going to see this question that
Starting point is 01:39:12 I had commented and to and to his family to his his his
Starting point is 01:39:18 children, to his to all those who, was, you know this person that person that good, so beautiful,
Starting point is 01:39:25 so much, so I'm a great abraceous, and then I'm a moment, and, we'll know that's a lot of your presence. And, well,
Starting point is 01:39:41 I'm doing a lot of good, I'm going to be.

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