INSOMNIO - NO ES UN JUEGO: Aterradoras consecuencias de hablar con el más allá.

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

¿Qué pasa cuando abres la puerta hacia lo desconocido y no sabes cómo cerrarla? Fepo, Mariana Portillo y Fermex nos cuentan relatos aterradores sobre uno de los temas más escalofriantes que existe...n: la tabla OUIJA. A través de estas historias de terror, descubriremos que intentar contactar a quienes no son de este mundo, nunca es un juego.  Estas experiencias paranormales te helarán la sangre, porque te darás cuenta que hay entidades que engañan a los niños en los baños de la escuela; presencias demoníacas que exigen sacrificios a cambio de paz; y sacerdotes atormentados dentro de su iglesia por fuerzas siniestras. Acompáñanos para escuchar las aterradoras consecuencias de jugar con lo prohibido. Estamos seguros que estos relatos de la noche, se quedarán por siempre en tu cabeza para causarte Insomnio.  #insomnio #podcastdeterror #historiasdeterror #ouija #tablaouija 😈 Redes de Fepo:  https://www.instagram.com/fepomx   https://x.com/fepomx   🔮Mariana Portillo:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjebU44SuvivW0MMuEPP3Tw   https://www.instagram.com/hollyweirdoficial/   https://www.instagram.com/_marianaportillo   💀Redes de Fermex:  https://www.instagram.com/fermex22?ig%E2%80%A6   🫡 Síguenos en redes sociales para más contenido: https://www.tiktok.com/ https://www.facebook.com/paranormal.insomnio https://www.instagram.com/podcast.insomnio   👻 Comparte Historias, Memes y Evidencias Paranormales 📝Cuéntanos tus historias: https://podcastinsomnio.com/   fepo@podcastparanormal.com ✨Grupo oficial de Facebook:   / https://www.facebook.com/groups/548487930178860   💬Grupo oficial de Telegram: https://t.me/+vFdn13cseD0zZWUx   🛒Compra Merch Exclusiva aquí👇🏼 https://store.podcastparanormal.com/tienda/   📧 Consultas empresariales: negocios@podcastparanormal.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Very good good days, tardes, or no new capitual of insomnia, in where we going to
Starting point is 00:00:05 narrate the most terrorifices experiences reales of the audience. So,
Starting point is 00:00:11 listen them if they tryven. In this occasion, we have a particular
Starting point is 00:00:15 that's very interesting, yeah, we're going to talk to one of the
Starting point is 00:00:20 objects most most the history. I refer to the table
Starting point is 00:00:27 Uija and those that have been sent the sufficiently
Starting point is 00:00:31 valiant or curious to use to use it's encountered that if I'm
Starting point is 00:00:37 in effect in some occasions is due to many a much
Starting point is 00:00:41 circumstances but especially what we interested in these and for the
Starting point is 00:00:47 we have to have much good not is if the table or
Starting point is 00:00:50 not what that that the portal that move
Starting point is 00:00:55 the planchet so that so So, for this chapter, I'm a two
Starting point is 00:01:01 inviteos and are great friends, amigas, that are to be with us helping us to help us
Starting point is 00:01:08 these tremendous relato. You know the very much, Mariana Portillo. How are you? Hello. Well,
Starting point is 00:01:15 I'm very very well to get to get to get to what we a week. The fact
Starting point is 00:01:21 that I'm going to get with a lot after after after the stories that we
Starting point is 00:01:26 know. I'm sure that so So, hey, before, you can't be you can't say to say
Starting point is 00:01:33 to say to the audience what are your your social and platforms? Sure, me they're in
Starting point is 00:01:40 Instagram as a bio- Mariana Portillo and my project personal
Starting point is 00:01:45 Hollywood it's like in all the social or as how
Starting point is 00:01:49 Hollywoodirth official. Very very. And also also our our
Starting point is 00:01:53 great- our great- great- how are you're doing this night and today we're trying
Starting point is 00:01:59 some stories about the Uiha very fervest. The two stories that me me took are me that's a recordatorio of what no
Starting point is 00:02:06 it's never to do you do. What do you think? What's we're talking to the stories? Justly we're
Starting point is 00:02:12 narrating of those things I'd say like a advertency, not like try to to start to
Starting point is 00:02:18 the people but they have much much careful not only only with the tabla wiha
Starting point is 00:02:24 but with whatever other other We spend them all and that sometimes we're going to
Starting point is 00:02:31 maybe with the knowledge, maybe with the force to to be a way to be an exploration of this type
Starting point is 00:02:36 in territories there's always to be much care we're going to go to the stories I think we going to be
Starting point is 00:02:43 going to get to be about those other socials and platforms I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:02:48 I'm they're they're they're going to continue criminally going to
Starting point is 00:02:53 find many there many things many interesting. So, so you find
Starting point is 00:02:56 podcast. com criminal and other social and it's not
Starting point is 00:02:58 and you good. Well, now so I thank you thank you for
Starting point is 00:03:04 send your courers with those incredible stories. You know is
Starting point is 00:03:08 Fepo arb podcast insomno com and if you don't
Starting point is 00:03:13 in the issue of the thing that they think that's the category
Starting point is 00:03:17 to the that can you connect your story for
Starting point is 00:03:21 our program. Let we're going to appreciate much if it's put there
Starting point is 00:03:25 and also remember this is very, very important. If you want that the story, it's the first of
Starting point is 00:03:33 the whole of the question, much thanks. Now, so you're our invite special of
Starting point is 00:03:41 the day of we, that we're super contented to have to here. We're really the
Starting point is 00:03:46 work that the work you do not to write, to express all, all those investigations
Starting point is 00:03:53 channel Holy Weird, but also every that you participate with us, does it make this program? Sure that is, and just the two stories that I've taken, are very fervous, one more than other, and I think, as you said, serve in a advertencia.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Tant to the parents that are being, they're going to hear this capitul, so, of prontos, if there are children, that I know this is a channel that should be men, but, I know that they're that, they're not also the mystery and it's, and they're being,
Starting point is 00:04:21 so take much careful, as you did you say, with what we don't know because many times we're
Starting point is 00:04:26 in a little bit of us in not they're not much, and is what what is what occurred in
Starting point is 00:04:32 this first story, that's called the new the man and the manned Julieta Rivera.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Okay, you know, you know, that many schools say that are pantheon, or that
Starting point is 00:04:43 there is a person, a man, a mano, a man a man, a man, a man,
Starting point is 00:04:47 a he quitted the life in some salon. Some things that are usually to say to practically to all to generate
Starting point is 00:04:55 there fear. And justly this was to this was a little bit of a primary of Guantua where these legends
Starting point is 00:05:03 abundable. The children always were that were fintasmas in the night, that of
Starting point is 00:05:08 you go to go to you was to talk with the little you're that they put there
Starting point is 00:05:14 music and you spantable or you'd You know, you'd hear about passes in the aulas, things of that type, no? And, obviously, as they were little, they were all that type of things.
Starting point is 00:05:24 They'd eight years. So, they were super-chiquititos, and it's very important to have that in mind. The age, they were very little, these children who lived in those. And also, apart of all, they were obsosunated with the magic
Starting point is 00:05:38 in that time. Why? Because it was to model a series of Disney Channel that, well, much if we get us to see we're really the chiseros
Starting point is 00:05:46 of Waverly Place this series was partonis by Selena Gomez and the fact that when it was it was different as the other
Starting point is 00:05:55 series, they were different. The other magic, of the mrs. Lobo, of sirens, of all,
Starting point is 00:06:00 things that, for the general Disney, no, there was not a type of series. So these
Starting point is 00:06:04 little really, these series and were obsessed with some some exicicers
Starting point is 00:06:09 like Selena Gomes. And they're in the hour of recreo, they'd
Starting point is 00:06:12 and they'd their and they'd those pociences, that were the posions, then the water,
Starting point is 00:06:19 like, whatever something that's there and they were in their posions, no? All right
Starting point is 00:06:25 all right to that this moment but resulta that they had a man who's
Starting point is 00:06:30 called Marlen, that I think is the veradern that's the person of
Starting point is 00:06:33 this story. Marlen came a day and she says that she
Starting point is 00:06:37 can be that she can communicate with the a little phantasm of the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:06:41 She, she was like a witch a girl, she's a girl now that
Starting point is 00:06:48 she is great, she said, well, and just he said to be popular in
Starting point is 00:06:52 that moment. But Marlen said, I know much about magic and I know how
Starting point is 00:06:57 communicate me with my papas do. It's needs a tabler
Starting point is 00:07:04 to be to be to have this in the world of the phantasmas. So,
Starting point is 00:07:11 Marlen, what he did with these kids, was a table of Uiha. They're they're
Starting point is 00:07:18 their own their own a cartulina that they had served the night the time in the
Starting point is 00:07:25 time, they had had gotten on the reverse, or where they're not,
Starting point is 00:07:30 and there is where they're they're where they put all the tableer no?
Starting point is 00:07:35 As Marlene you had this because she said that he had seen her father's having these communications with this table. You know, and I saw that more or less what constituted.
Starting point is 00:07:45 We know, we know. Here's, here says, no. The letters, the numbers. There are some of those some kind of, but, well, is the general that every tableau has done. So, so it's really,
Starting point is 00:07:57 something that resale to her is that they've said, we're going to write to make a more effective, for that simule the and if it's like in the mind
Starting point is 00:08:08 there of the nines they're in they're going to now. Now, what they started to
Starting point is 00:08:14 do, to do you to do in what they were to take a table
Starting point is 00:08:20 they're to do in the recreo that obviously they're quite
Starting point is 00:08:24 time and they decided to do you in the banions of
Starting point is 00:08:28 the which is just where they were that they
Starting point is 00:08:31 were the They got this baio, the baio more grand, that's been actually
Starting point is 00:08:39 for that could do a seat of the round, the baio to the final, for that they
Starting point is 00:08:43 were not they were all the three, put the tableero made of cartulina
Starting point is 00:08:50 and also putio the planchette that also they've done with a
Starting point is 00:08:55 partulina obviously triangular because so I had seen Marlen that
Starting point is 00:08:59 was the she was she she said she she what occurred in that moment, because has been of the moments more traumatical in their life. Recurred, even
Starting point is 00:09:09 that the banos were bigos, you know, typical of an school public, the spejoys manchered, the olor a chloro furrow-feworthe, the focus blanks there that zumbed then a little bit feo. The case is that they decided
Starting point is 00:09:23 incerarse, put the cartulina in the piece, and start. Obviously, Marlena, while having the major the first knowledge of the three
Starting point is 00:09:31 is the that he's the king of satanas Lucifer demonos
Starting point is 00:09:38 and phantasas I was invoked the other other am I she and she obviously
Starting point is 00:09:45 they not they're not that Marlen so just repitial what Marlen was
Starting point is 00:09:50 saying and so for them at that that's sometimes were phrases
Starting point is 00:09:55 like when when they were they were a that was a cheesio that had nothing to be, and not for nothing that was going to
Starting point is 00:10:04 get in some problem, well, they were again, they were just a little a cheeszo normal, and yeah, no saw in the peso that really
Starting point is 00:10:12 had these words. So, Marlen, he went to even more the voice and said, "'Fantasm of the the new,
Starting point is 00:10:19 I'll order, that you're that you manifestes. They were looking the triangle, to see
Starting point is 00:10:25 something, to see, if she was moved how it had to move, and no no pass
Starting point is 00:10:30 nothing. They were how other other little people, we're at the time of the time,
Starting point is 00:10:37 they were at the time, they were talking, and they were all the relash that they were
Starting point is 00:10:42 all the little all the time of the time of the recreo and they decided
Starting point is 00:10:48 that's that came a little that that were that were the that were
Starting point is 00:10:53 in the the in the one more. Volvier to start. Of new,
Starting point is 00:11:03 Marlaine he was vociferate these words, invocating to the demons,
Starting point is 00:11:09 invocating to lucifer, the phantasm and they, the other two that were being so,
Starting point is 00:11:15 that were so, let's be going to not going to be to not going,
Starting point is 00:11:19 for that we're so that we're but just in that moment,
Starting point is 00:11:25 the plan that's the planchette so moved. Ben, how, well,
Starting point is 00:11:29 in the cartulina it's like a vibran at the beginning, and of it's
Starting point is 00:11:34 to get to get to get to the surface, marking the word the word
Starting point is 00:11:40 hello, the that had written yeah, Marlen previously. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:11:47 all this, well, so, so, so, still, something,
Starting point is 00:11:51 I'm, well, Marlen did a he did something to the table
Starting point is 00:11:54 or, no see, the she's doing a little, and we're not we're
Starting point is 00:11:58 not really a lot of or not any, until that moment, so they were
Starting point is 00:12:03 so they're so so that the table the table again, the planchette starts
Starting point is 00:12:11 to move on the tableero and he starts to mark words. It was
Starting point is 00:12:16 not not so a simple vibration, it was more he, he gave more
Starting point is 00:12:23 fear in that moment, is that one of them was to the planchette. So, she moved
Starting point is 00:12:28 solo. Yeah. It's that, she said, she said, she said, we're not,
Starting point is 00:12:34 we're not even even we didn't we need to put our table on the tableau
Starting point is 00:12:38 and the and how , it's not. Ah, they're in a little in a
Starting point is 00:12:45 place, and it's to make a about, and it's eight years, recordemos,
Starting point is 00:12:50 They know, but not They didn't learn so they were to read, but the only that she said
Starting point is 00:12:55 to get a point to all the planchette was the word mom. Pus more,
Starting point is 00:13:04 but she the fact she, the fact, she was the really that none of she had
Starting point is 00:13:10 idea of how she could be being so much in that moment in the
Starting point is 00:13:15 terror is to get to get to they're to get to They're to cry.
Starting point is 00:13:21 They're all dead. So, they're all right. So, what's going to be? They've never seen something. Intentan't to go out of the ban.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And the door is trapped. So, still more, all that that thing is still moving and they are all right, then it's still
Starting point is 00:13:36 more more and the really, that they're so, so, so in this, that not they've done
Starting point is 00:13:43 that even the root external, that, the, of the kids and all, even disappeared.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And they're in a panic total that she was in a time when she was going to when she opened the
Starting point is 00:13:56 door to and then total panic so they're in a moment because it was her master. The maestra
Starting point is 00:14:05 was had gone to because she had been done the hour of the recreo and they had
Starting point is 00:14:10 had passed a time and she went to to look at the school and they found in the and he was super
Starting point is 00:14:15 molesta of that that's encounter that's she's the master agar
Starting point is 00:14:20 the planchette and the and he he has so, he ruga and he he'll
Starting point is 00:14:26 and obviously that he he's regan in that in that she obviously were
Starting point is 00:14:31 that they were even even had been so that Marlene she
Starting point is 00:14:35 had made on the back for the terror so
Starting point is 00:14:38 then so the so the maest she's they papas that
Starting point is 00:14:44 same day and the papas of the three have to go to the school. They're the father
Starting point is 00:14:50 of this child that's the child that's the story. They're they're very molest
Starting point is 00:14:56 because they told all what had made this she had been in a little
Starting point is 00:15:02 they've been they're they're not so they're they're they're there, but it's
Starting point is 00:15:08 like a time then then they're then they're then the
Starting point is 00:15:12 papas of Marlem but difference of his papas, they were enoged
Starting point is 00:15:16 enoched. So, they were without, without, the director was was going
Starting point is 00:15:22 all the little what did you know, the tableau, that's so, no,
Starting point is 00:15:26 did the master, to show to them to make to do and the parents
Starting point is 00:15:31 of Marlene, lehous to be most of those other parents, they were
Starting point is 00:15:36 with a semblance normal. The the mother, the marlain, no, did not even a
Starting point is 00:15:40 one single word, and the father, and the father, he did he to get a
Starting point is 00:15:45 and he's in the moment, well, they were not, well, what was
Starting point is 00:15:50 what was that was because it was too that was that they had done, but in
Starting point is 00:15:54 that they thought, they were only just a only, obviously, that they
Starting point is 00:15:59 they're they're they're not, and then, and then, but, we can't say,
Starting point is 00:16:04 that's, termed this trago margot, not? After that in one occasion,
Starting point is 00:16:09 she had been from Marlene, you have been had been about this
Starting point is 00:16:15 anecdote, so, and of all what I had lived with her because it
Starting point is 00:16:19 was a friend she she did a time, then when she was,
Starting point is 00:16:26 she was to know, and what I did remember to she was that she
Starting point is 00:16:30 did that she had have been played in the house of Marlem something something is that in
Starting point is 00:16:39 a bit of a house there were many vows and some photographs and some more recent but
Starting point is 00:16:47 one that was a lot of the attention was one where the parents of Marlem with a
Starting point is 00:16:52 little there is there is so he was that she was that that was that she was
Starting point is 00:16:59 not even't but I was he was I was more immersed in the game that they were in that moment,
Starting point is 00:17:06 then decided no do it and then he was over and then he was born that they had a becine
Starting point is 00:17:12 in common that was much with the family of Marlen and in some occasion and in some time,
Starting point is 00:17:20 near that was he was talking to that she toped with she was about something, the best of the bestine
Starting point is 00:17:27 the back that's after a few years no, I know, of her family. They were, and I don't know where
Starting point is 00:17:36 they were, but fiatte that family was very strange. That family, not normal, was very metida in the clothes esotericas.
Starting point is 00:17:46 De-pronto, they'd make misas in their mises, extra-s, had some different things, and,
Starting point is 00:17:52 and, to me not me didn't mean a good spina, he said, but, but,
Starting point is 00:17:56 were people with those that I took much a certain and I knew,
Starting point is 00:18:00 that started to practice all that that one of his one of his his wife
Starting point is 00:18:06 and then it was like a form, they said they're in those the
Starting point is 00:18:12 people, like to feel to get us with the little to get her or to
Starting point is 00:18:19 get her to get that they're to communicate to be exactly so. So they
Starting point is 00:18:25 they were more Leland said more Leland's about something the The words.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Ah, just. Or so, for something, the words that said, no, were words at a chance, not even for
Starting point is 00:18:36 a little a year of a year, how you're going to know, specifically, those names of demonies
Starting point is 00:18:41 to say, that they're that I'm, and that's I'm, and that's, so, I'm,
Starting point is 00:18:46 so, I'm, there, so, he said, just that, the senior, that, she,
Starting point is 00:18:52 not said, but what he said, she said, I, I'm, I'm, I repented
Starting point is 00:18:58 of that moment because never had felt that the day but if I'm
Starting point is 00:19:03 to think to think to I'm know that probably that that time that
Starting point is 00:19:10 we're we're we're not contact with the little the baby
Starting point is 00:19:14 any of any any any any that's that was the
Starting point is 00:19:20 only that Marlem could have had a woman
Starting point is 00:19:23 that And it's that I can't I'm trying to think right that you're talking to that when we're doing we're
Starting point is 00:19:35 we're not bad decisions because we're that the adult do you know that's a distance and and of a
Starting point is 00:19:43 repent we can commit great errors. You're talking this and when you said eight years that for
Starting point is 00:19:50 that they're not at those are just being rapidly the planchette record these
Starting point is 00:19:58 that, in fact, have passed in Mexico and in the world, of children and teenagers, et cetera, that's kept in the primary, in the secondary, a rathitist, and someone says, we'll say, and I'll say, with all the respect,
Starting point is 00:20:12 I know, but we're going to play to play a wihia, no? And someone has a tableer there or has in one, and those histories have yet to have given to
Starting point is 00:20:23 the public in general because they're not. Imagineate that, I mean, to, at the eight years you're in third of primary
Starting point is 00:20:29 so you say to say to your child and then you're they're saying they're saying is that the kids are
Starting point is 00:20:35 asostated because they're going to the whizho and so yeah and the and the
Starting point is 00:20:40 and the she was the she don't she said to her because she I thought because she
Starting point is 00:20:47 said because the father's so he said at the more already here I can
Starting point is 00:20:53 I can to talk with my womanita but the the danger, pardon, the dangerous, that
Starting point is 00:20:59 could have been. Fidgette that's briefly this story, I've told in other occasions,
Starting point is 00:21:04 but only to know the alcanses that can't have the jug, malditch to playha,
Starting point is 00:21:10 in some occasion, I'm a person that just just doesn't the epitul of
Starting point is 00:21:14 insomio, me made to get to a through a time, a story real
Starting point is 00:21:19 of a little of a year to give it to get into a hospital, with some things terrible
Starting point is 00:21:28 to me me made the oja in the a oja in the oja in the moment
Starting point is 00:21:31 that you the diagnosis incredibly said possession demoniac the
Starting point is 00:21:37 diagnosis of the medical so I'm so I think it is possible that
Starting point is 00:21:41 put on this and he said simply simply he was impossibility
Starting point is 00:21:45 to give any other type of and put possession.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Because after after that night with the old horrible of horrible
Starting point is 00:21:54 of the hospital. Simply when they were putier a little, it's a lot of a area psychologic and they're quit around
Starting point is 00:22:02 so imagine to where it's the consequences of using an object like this without the knowledge of
Starting point is 00:22:12 it's very very, very dangerous. It's quite passed, no, I think in Pueblo. Yeah, of what you
Starting point is 00:22:17 would say, I've seen news of, like two times, I've seen not news of people who, well,
Starting point is 00:22:23 in children or adolescents that are, like you said, malditcho, and they're going to and they're going to and they're things, no?
Starting point is 00:22:32 I mean, I think in Puebla there's a story and I think there's a lot. And in Sonor. I mean, look, in many
Starting point is 00:22:43 places, no? And only of what we can't record. Exactly. But what's there's got to have done much care and
Starting point is 00:22:48 not put our energy in places that no know we and to and to see. And,
Starting point is 00:22:52 and it's He's heard like a thing yeah, no? Like, I'm a rubeo. It's rare. It's a little of the lampra
Starting point is 00:23:02 if we don't, not we've put some of the casks. We're going to be to question. No, nobody here is who's not. We're going to
Starting point is 00:23:13 go ahead. We're going to continue with the stories. The next is your Fermix. That's. Fingense, that after after many years
Starting point is 00:23:19 to have the opportunity to learn and to tell stories of terror, I've learned something a lot of this time. The devotion to God is the meal of the demons.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And now understand why you'll tell you this. This story is called Father Nuestro and it envia Jesus Reyes, from Puebla. Jesus Reyes says that when this story succeeded, he had 16 years. And as well it
Starting point is 00:23:42 was a reunion in a house with five friends. Five friends that in that moment were not under the supervision of an adult. Why? Because his parents had have been And it's easy to have
Starting point is 00:23:52 a reunion with his friends more than this way to pass the time, playing, playing,
Starting point is 00:23:59 and doing, maybe something of videohuegos, even mention maybe something about there of alcohol prohibitive,
Starting point is 00:24:05 being those adolescents, because it's like that it's an only, but the time,
Starting point is 00:24:09 the time the time when one of them, the duke the house just said, oh,
Starting point is 00:24:17 I'm going to return, I'm going to tryer something. She's out of the quarter where they were and he went
Starting point is 00:24:22 he said that with a piece of a car of carton a caja normal a piece of and polvada and he was he said
Starting point is 00:24:28 look in what I'm going to this case is what you're what you're thinking a and this was this whiffa
Starting point is 00:24:36 was of my my tia my tia not is that has been not yet my tithe simply you know
Starting point is 00:24:42 here but I've heard of my my tia to say to say my parents that this
Starting point is 00:24:46 table is that you can communicate with other other entities, what they do you? What are you? All the
Starting point is 00:24:54 friends, between the emotion, between the the adrenaline that you provoke a first experience of this type,
Starting point is 00:25:02 decided to have the table, Weija. They started to play, and they started the session.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Jesus says that he came of a family a lot Catholic, a family a family
Starting point is 00:25:13 quite religious and who had been his moment in the question religious, had been her own
Starting point is 00:25:20 a little bit of the church, that was going to give to the times, she had been put into an scapulario. If you know
Starting point is 00:25:27 you know, they're in what particular, my abuela me me said, one of the sacerdote you put the
Starting point is 00:25:34 capulario, is like an imposition. What does mean it that's not how many times you do you
Starting point is 00:25:39 get it? And you never you you're doing. You're still being imposed. The
Starting point is 00:25:45 scapulario, you know you can't get it. Wow, not saw. Physically yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:49 but energetically not. So, he said they're going to be a little more tenebroso
Starting point is 00:25:56 the ambient. For the supposed, put some some little some of the light, and they
Starting point is 00:26:01 were all lugubber to try to live the experience the best possible, according they they're
Starting point is 00:26:07 to make to make a question to the wika, he said that I didn't
Starting point is 00:26:11 a normal, I felt an ambient oppressive and I said, I felt that I was doing something that was doing something that's like if you were doing
Starting point is 00:26:20 something that's that you know, you know, you're not that's there, you say for pressure social or because really you're
Starting point is 00:26:27 really you're a little of the question. In this case, he said, he said, he had over the
Starting point is 00:26:32 time of his five friends. They said, we're going to do a lot, we're going to put all the time,
Starting point is 00:26:39 a bit bit to each, and we're to leave here our energy for that this
Starting point is 00:26:44 function. Jesus no I'd feel like he'd do you're he'd
Starting point is 00:26:49 give him he'd do you know I'm not do you know what's they're saying yeah
Starting point is 00:26:54 not you don't say you're not you don't you not you're not you you're just
Starting point is 00:27:00 a game simply and he's just I'm saying it's I'm I'm yeah it's that
Starting point is 00:27:04 I'm just for the pressure social decided to put a hand on the
Starting point is 00:27:09 planchette with the other five friends and then to They started to make questions very,
Starting point is 00:27:15 well, you know, first you're going to you're at the other side, you're a woman, where you're, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:27:23 questions basic, that the table that was contesting little to put without any titobeo. Sin,
Starting point is 00:27:29 however, there was a moment in that you can't like, like they were just
Starting point is 00:27:33 they're not they didn't the connection, like that more than they were without
Starting point is 00:27:38 questions. And in that moment, the planchet started to move only he said he letterer
Starting point is 00:27:47 five letters J E S U S S J E S U S No manches The name of Jesus And Jesus And Jesus
Starting point is 00:27:57 He said No, I don't I don't want And the And the people Also But you're You're against
Starting point is 00:28:05 Between Amigos Five or six Persons You're To say What will What will
Starting point is 00:28:10 What will What will What is What? We're going to And one of them asked, what you want,
Starting point is 00:28:18 and the next the wihed was a quayar. Collar? And then in the moment that he said,
Starting point is 00:28:27 after that was said, Jesus, immediately did this. So, hiscapulary. Yes,
Starting point is 00:28:33 sure, the scapulary. So, if the friends, no, they could have done,
Starting point is 00:28:38 in quite, he said, he, he said, and they, all they all turned to look, they said, what do you try's there? And he said, um, escapulari.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Me, it was my abuela. And they asked, again to the table, what you want? Kittalow. Kittal. So Jesus was when he said, I don't go to keep me my scapulary. Yeah, in that moment,
Starting point is 00:29:03 yeah he had taken. I had his scapulary, so yeah, I had his scapulary, so, and one of the friends, you know, you know, that's not a person
Starting point is 00:29:11 that's a person, that's a little bit bit and he's no, no, no, that's the
Starting point is 00:29:15 and he he gotro and he's he's a he's, he's so I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:29:21 manches, that's the manches, that's not the manch he's not he's going to say
Starting point is 00:29:26 and Jesus no, no. So, then they're to get used to get them a tunding a tauts
Starting point is 00:29:36 X, alasar, questions, maybe even tontas, I'm going to pass this year, yeah the table was with a lot and it was more fast enough
Starting point is 00:29:44 because there no was that maybe that maybe that top energetic or religious that was franando. But what
Starting point is 00:29:51 was what was what was Jesus he said, that always that she had a situation difficult
Starting point is 00:29:59 in a situation of a situation of a problem or an object religious to rester in his
Starting point is 00:30:07 mind. It's so that while they were doing all these questions, Jesus started to
Starting point is 00:30:12 prays Father Nuestro that's in the soul, sanctified for
Starting point is 00:30:15 inside, in his mental, while all, and they were making questions,
Starting point is 00:30:20 he'd be doing the question, but the mind was saying, and the
Starting point is 00:30:27 when I was at point to to terminate the Father Nuestrofa in the
Starting point is 00:30:31 last strofa, where says, Cis, Libran us of the mal, in that
Starting point is 00:30:36 moment, he in his his his his said, Libran us
Starting point is 00:30:41 with the eyes closed, in the court was a
Starting point is 00:30:46 woman that said, amen. Look, you know, I'm my
Starting point is 00:30:52 little, I'm my hear, you know, in this just
Starting point is 00:30:55 moment, all all were all were They were going to goreeland. They said that the dewegoes
Starting point is 00:31:26 is to be made up tovests to the table. No, it's Some of the pass of the years, depression, others, well, perhaps not any of the way. But he says, he said, they're trying to do some vices,
Starting point is 00:31:38 this, things very feas. All right, all those have been a final, not tragic, certainly, but if a final
Starting point is 00:31:45 no agree, his vids, and not can't put to take the table to the table, but it's a coincidence
Starting point is 00:31:50 that his lives has been torsied to some way, with the time, and I'm
Starting point is 00:31:56 I don't think that's at the table, can't be circumstances merriment mundanas. But what happened? But what happened with him? He let's
Starting point is 00:32:04 all this in that moment, to his abuela, and her said, well, you did you well, did it
Starting point is 00:32:12 to quit your protection, we're going to the sacerdote, I'm going to you know, to do, and if,
Starting point is 00:32:18 effectively, they were to the church, they were the story of the sacerdote, the sacserecto
Starting point is 00:32:23 he recommend, no, you'll never, not to say that's this type of objects, are maldits, not it's the most recommendable
Starting point is 00:32:31 that's a way to do. With the pasto of the time, Jesus began to tranquillization, passed on the
Starting point is 00:32:37 months, and of a point he was involved in their religious, never was never, it was a
Starting point is 00:32:44 person very apegated to the religion. These people that are all the times, that's people,
Starting point is 00:32:49 that's people, in groups, no, this type of things, but when he started
Starting point is 00:32:53 with this new life detected something. One a night was in his
Starting point is 00:32:57 room, it was because he had a Christ in the wall the
Starting point is 00:33:02 and it was even so it was a reclinatory these things that are
Starting point is 00:33:07 that you put to put to your and you can get
Starting point is 00:33:10 your and your put to and you and he he's
Starting point is 00:33:14 to to ask you to ask you to And just when when
Starting point is 00:33:19 he said the Father Nuestro just in the part final
Starting point is 00:33:24 where says liberan us all here at the one more
Starting point is 00:33:30 Jesus says Jesus that from that has avoided
Starting point is 00:33:41 has not he not he can do he never
Starting point is 00:33:47 to be that one that one he's he's not even in his head. So, no, they're in the church. When
Starting point is 00:33:56 be that in the church, it's going to rest, simply it's always. When they're in a group of oration and see that they're going to rest, simply it's a leger. No he wants to live that experience. No, say, resando it one way to hear that voice.
Starting point is 00:34:10 No, knows if it has been a consequence. Have passed many years. Certainly, he's a little bit of the life religious because to be in the religion and
Starting point is 00:34:20 not resar the father our brother, it's something is a kind of and a
Starting point is 00:34:25 reason of he has been a little until the final of this story no has
Starting point is 00:34:31 had been other experience but me it was the most traumatic and
Starting point is 00:34:37 that's traumatic and he is a very impactant and I think I think
Starting point is 00:34:46 that the voice was of her but not it was no no
Starting point is 00:34:52 no no there's there there's there there there
Starting point is 00:34:56 if it was the she not was the what was that that
Starting point is 00:35:01 they're that the and the truth not not a
Starting point is 00:35:07 question I think that does much fear but
Starting point is 00:35:10 he has cut his power of oration. That's. Devier adorer. Because for him
Starting point is 00:35:21 in his crevency religious, the oration, the oration exists of many forms. Not only the people
Starting point is 00:35:29 Catholic or Christian are. No, it's true. Even one, that at a more, no is
Starting point is 00:35:37 a great- I know, you're, you're, you know, not that you don't is that you
Starting point is 00:35:42 you're, A little no you know, but maybe in a moment you're
Starting point is 00:35:48 you're you're and you other way again, I'm the know the intelligence
Starting point is 00:35:52 to be able to do this visualize my exit, etc because you going to do you
Starting point is 00:35:58 do you do the examen of the university for example and you
Starting point is 00:36:01 do you repit and you repit you're you're you're you're
Starting point is 00:36:04 but this entity with with with he has that
Starting point is 00:36:09 he has that you You know, the reason, eh? No, I know I
Starting point is 00:36:16 in the particular, what I would if I'm I'm not that I'm mean to say, amen to
Starting point is 00:36:24 I'm in the I'm going to be a lot but I would do you do that I would be to say
Starting point is 00:36:30 the father of I'm sure. I'm I'm going a way I've seen a person,
Starting point is 00:36:37 a man, a baron that tocio and I do you, I'm sure, you know, that I don't know how
Starting point is 00:36:44 I was out of where I was living but I'm in a lot of imagineate to hear of an amen in that occasion I was about
Starting point is 00:36:53 and I was only where I live where I'm a place in a other than a place I was alone I was caught
Starting point is 00:36:59 no there no had nothing no I was because I had the part more high and in total silence
Starting point is 00:37:05 I was saying I'm here at this this distance that you have to hear you
Starting point is 00:37:10 don't you pass I mean, I think, I think it was toce her when I was about it. Now imagine that they'd
Starting point is 00:37:17 say amen? Oh, no, manches. No, no, manches. I'm, I'm sorry, I think I'm going to say it's no,
Starting point is 00:37:24 I mean, I'm going to say it's like, well, we're going to hear an amen that's or so if I've ever has been
Starting point is 00:37:30 so, like, I've got, so you know, you're all right that one of you're not that one
Starting point is 00:37:37 in, in, how is in Costa Rica? Yeah, in Costa Rica. To quit me, that what happened, I acud with the mom of Pepo.
Starting point is 00:37:47 You have to do a series of passes, between them, that includes to do a oration specifically of a psalmo for tantos days, no?
Starting point is 00:37:58 So, it's different in the cases. In my case, were, I think, was 15 days that had to be doing an oration,
Starting point is 00:38:04 and, and, also, what she was that you do you have to do in voice Salta.
Starting point is 00:38:07 No, you can't do it internally, but you do it's a way, looking to do this and various
Starting point is 00:38:15 things more about there. And I remember that I was I was doing the oration, this,
Starting point is 00:38:20 and if I heard that I'm, I, I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:38:26 I, I, and my person was to be a lot, but it's the only
Starting point is 00:38:35 that I'm in the third day of 15 that I had to do you know, I'm afraid when I was doing the pronged
Starting point is 00:38:42 and I'm going to be going to be to go back to something? It was the only but I know I'm
Starting point is 00:38:49 even to your mom and me said it's normal that they're going to because like we're like we're
Starting point is 00:38:56 we're saying that is we're doing that's just it's like like there's like there
Starting point is 00:39:01 but it's not too too too much I've seen Amel. The last when you're
Starting point is 00:39:06 doing that you're doing this for quit a time, the last few times to puttence this energy
Starting point is 00:39:12 because, of some way, he does know that that's being being retired,
Starting point is 00:39:18 and he going to this case, generate much fear, whatever that's
Starting point is 00:39:25 that you keep that you try, so, yes, and if were
Starting point is 00:39:28 things rare, and so things so so, uh-huh me said, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:33 my son, my son, you know, so I'm a bad, but I'm a little. So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:38 yeah, well, we're going, we're talking, my first story, and this story is
Starting point is 00:39:48 a, it's a interesting, fienes, right, it's, it's, it's important,
Starting point is 00:39:56 like, to take in the things that going to be going to the
Starting point is 00:40:01 way of the form of the form of the person that's that this person
Starting point is 00:40:08 does many that this and the experience as a so that we
Starting point is 00:40:14 can't connect to that that's that we're going to talk. No,
Starting point is 00:40:20 no, this is a story an story an anonymous and it's
Starting point is 00:40:23 the offrenda. In that story says that well this,
Starting point is 00:40:28 you know, this is when he was a young. Joven, I'm referring to the state of the adolescence, the secondary. I have an friend, in some moment, he put like this, of the, of the tablas wheejas, and more, and he said, oh, yeah, we're going to
Starting point is 00:40:46 buy one, for utilizes it. And the friend, also, they're just on, the money between the two, and so still I remember how much it costed, because in that then it was, as well, it was said, even in the supermarket. They costed 40
Starting point is 00:41:01 pesos Mexican of that kind of 40 pesos Mexican. Well, they got them and started to use it. No,
Starting point is 00:41:08 even in casa of they've been there like a parkecito and they tried to use it. He said
Starting point is 00:41:15 he's not the question, he said the other form of the visor, the planchette. to move, ah, the we're
Starting point is 00:41:32 in the he's got to and he's he's a kind of that's a time, so they're
Starting point is 00:41:41 to talk about and he said, I have a table wisha. He's we're going to use it,
Starting point is 00:41:48 we're going to to do you and he says, no, no, no, no, it's a one of
Starting point is 00:41:53 a mentire. No, no, look, we're, we're going to use it, we're going to concentrate
Starting point is 00:41:57 no, of the really not you know, you see, you see, and we'll see, we're
Starting point is 00:42:02 so we're going. Well, he's, he said that yeah was very time, so it was yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:09 it was the night, and he seemed it like this this new friend, like he
Starting point is 00:42:16 had a bit of that the things going to happen to that it said,
Starting point is 00:42:21 and it's that it was super well, they're they're they're They're
Starting point is 00:42:25 so in the night and they're two laddrios in those which are they to siters in these ladrills and the table
Starting point is 00:42:34 are sitting one front of the other the table they're the middle in the the other
Starting point is 00:42:41 in the other in the other half in the two and the other getting like a mess between
Starting point is 00:42:44 two the planchette and they're they they're they're and they they're
Starting point is 00:42:50 to use to use it. So first the first us occurs
Starting point is 00:42:55 to ask is to ask. If there is a there's going to
Starting point is 00:43:00 do you and we're and strangelyly what never had passed
Starting point is 00:43:05 before my other friend the planchette so moved not was a
Starting point is 00:43:10 movement super rapid but too was a movement very
Starting point is 00:43:16 very very clear and so moved and he
Starting point is 00:43:20 did like the impression, more than the so, so, so, so, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:35 so you're immediately, so you know, you know, you know, I'm going to, no, no, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:43:39 go to go to so, I'm not, so, okay, very good, very, very, very, good, very,
Starting point is 00:43:43 how you, you know, and so I'm to move, M, A, N-U-E-L, Manuel. Very well,
Starting point is 00:43:54 Manuel. of where you're very above so they're so they're that
Starting point is 00:44:03 that's like that you know that'sel a little the but the curiosity
Starting point is 00:44:09 was much so so so they're thinking in not
Starting point is 00:44:15 not to do that question and more more more
Starting point is 00:44:19 more more more you're you like you're like
Starting point is 00:44:22 you how many years I've, to see, in some form, no? But, also they're
Starting point is 00:44:29 a problem that's many people to know that one or other person not they're moving.
Starting point is 00:44:37 You're the question and you're the eyes, you know, and when you get, you're,
Starting point is 00:44:42 you're the letter, and so, conforms it's going to be getting, and you
Starting point is 00:44:45 starting the way, you're you're doing that the other person not you're not you
Starting point is 00:44:50 not yet that the more than you exactly in the letter. So, he said that they're doing
Starting point is 00:44:58 these questions when, the protagonist of this story, he said that he said a look
Starting point is 00:45:06 a looker back, and after his friend, and at around to his minute, there was a
Starting point is 00:45:13 cat. It was a color gris, but was like, longly looking to long as the end of
Starting point is 00:45:22 the eyes. And then in that moment, the wihia commenced to move and he said, Cerello. So, he asked, I said,
Starting point is 00:45:33 perfectly that he said the cat. Why? And he said, maligno. Then, the friend also, he'll go to the gato,
Starting point is 00:45:43 and between the two, they say, pete, bette, and the gout. And the gato like, he's,
Starting point is 00:45:49 so he's, ohyentado, and, Well, they go. They'll they're going to and they're there's
Starting point is 00:45:55 too, no, they're just feeling like those nervous, no, of what's what's going,
Starting point is 00:46:01 and they ask them to the Uyha, we can't we'll be and the response, no,
Starting point is 00:46:09 the day. At the day the day the fact, the fact, because we had been much
Starting point is 00:46:16 the time to use it, and even the sun not metido, well,
Starting point is 00:46:21 count as a day, and they're going to go to the park, and they're
Starting point is 00:46:26 in the little they're in the table and they're they're to do that. But he
Starting point is 00:46:32 does a point of what so very, very important. He's that even they're not
Starting point is 00:46:38 that they're like if the the environment if it had been put so super
Starting point is 00:46:42 free, not like in the night, that should be more more in the
Starting point is 00:46:45 night, super free, and, and, that that was that of the arbores,
Starting point is 00:46:50 over all the taster the noise are moving the soil and the it was like if not sop
Starting point is 00:47:00 he said it's up to be a little a little one of the one. It was like if the
Starting point is 00:47:07 entire would have been like a energy malignant would have had been a
Starting point is 00:47:11 kind of whatever kind of but they're their bellator and to
Starting point is 00:47:19 the first question that they did Oh, you you're here,
Starting point is 00:47:23 one of these velas now put you immediately it's a apo. But not like if
Starting point is 00:47:29 someone would have sopled or the wind had so something, but if
Starting point is 00:47:32 someone had so had been to the pavilo that's sound of the
Starting point is 00:47:36 so. So they they're there's there's so we're we're
Starting point is 00:47:42 going to continue the the next the they're not wait a
Starting point is 00:47:50 They've learned like forceably. And then he said that he's got to consume rapidly, rapidly,
Starting point is 00:47:57 rapidly, and the cera only culled on one leaving like some little, those, some,
Starting point is 00:48:02 many, great, that's, that's really that's really, so it's, well,
Starting point is 00:48:07 simply, they're not, they're not much curiosity to continue using
Starting point is 00:48:11 the table. So, so they were they put down the the had done
Starting point is 00:48:21 the possible because not because not because not they're for they're in the of the night
Starting point is 00:48:26 now now so they're they're they're they're you're you're
Starting point is 00:48:33 yes no you can't you don't respond and in what they're
Starting point is 00:48:43 thinking the next question is and it and it Let's let's. Tun,
Starting point is 00:48:49 Tun, to, Tum, Tum, Rapido, rapid, rapid, rapid,
Starting point is 00:48:51 rapid, rapid, rapid, so, car, rojo. So, get there
Starting point is 00:48:55 like, even, they're like, so, like, why, why,
Starting point is 00:48:59 he's because, is a thing, this is a thing, he's, he was,
Starting point is 00:49:06 another one of his one of his friends, one of his so, go, so,
Starting point is 00:49:13 go, and we, we're going to the wika, and And he's
Starting point is 00:49:16 a Rear. No manchin. I mean, it's pure that's false, it's a pure
Starting point is 00:49:23 tonteria. And the friend that was there, he said, he said, that's really they're all
Starting point is 00:49:31 they're using those don't, because you you're you're doing you, and when they're
Starting point is 00:49:36 they're doing, and they're listening, he said, and it's so, and all so,
Starting point is 00:49:42 and all's in silence, and the table describe, your mom me
Starting point is 00:49:48 saw. And this child he got palid. And when they were that he
Starting point is 00:49:55 got a table, where? Where? Where did your court? And in
Starting point is 00:50:04 that moment this little, he begins to get to get the
Starting point is 00:50:10 hands the handchette. You're you're well, and this that's he was
Starting point is 00:50:14 being, He passed then to Yorra. But he said that he said that he was what you
Starting point is 00:50:20 pass? And between the yant and so, my manno calmate, you know, calmate,
Starting point is 00:50:27 what you have? Let's tell you that his his best friend he was Manuel.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Oh, that fellesio in an accident, in a car rojo and that
Starting point is 00:50:40 the day that his mom came to and he he said, I've I've seen
Starting point is 00:50:46 to my friend Manuel. How did you my friend of my friend my friend? Yes,
Starting point is 00:50:51 I was he was a man. And then they said, and then we had fallen that he
Starting point is 00:50:59 had fallen. But, oh, when they said, and now, before that these children
Starting point is 00:51:06 had said, car rogo. So, like, they were that's They're
Starting point is 00:51:13 They're They're They're They're They're They're They're On their
Starting point is 00:51:18 On the On the on the planchet And in that moment The three velas
Starting point is 00:51:24 They were They're They're They're They're They're They're They're
Starting point is 00:51:30 And the They're In the middle, it's Prend Solita
Starting point is 00:51:34 Deh Deh They're A Chiquittititit They They're They're
Starting point is 00:51:39 there like, what is this, no? No continue us. And
Starting point is 00:51:46 they're the session. How supposedly they're they're in the instructions.
Starting point is 00:51:51 They're the session, they and they go to the next, the
Starting point is 00:51:58 curiosity. And it was like a little to be a little little
Starting point is 00:52:02 they're to you're there? You're there? You're there?
Starting point is 00:52:09 and in that moment a becina, a man, she says, what do you? What do you? He said, we're doing
Starting point is 00:52:17 to go ahead. You're just some of the boys. And what's the boy? And that's the woman, the wichia,
Starting point is 00:52:27 she's move and he'scribe, you're going to get to all. And she gets to get to a rizier
Starting point is 00:52:37 and he asks, ah, yeah, and how? And he'scribe colicos. Really who manned the story
Starting point is 00:52:45 no says for what reasoned this chick. So, they were the eyes and he
Starting point is 00:52:51 went on the back back to her house. They just were quite very very rare
Starting point is 00:52:57 no? It's like if if it had a energy super aggressive.
Starting point is 00:53:02 It was like it was like you say that kind of things and that
Starting point is 00:53:07 was that's more violence and he asked what
Starting point is 00:53:11 what what's he he's he's he he's he's
Starting point is 00:53:16 he's manuel no you're they're again they're they're
Starting point is 00:53:26 to get this temperature at the temperature no no
Starting point is 00:53:31 he was no a one one there no there
Starting point is 00:53:34 no nobody around zero pachos silence absolute then who is
Starting point is 00:53:41 and so he was and he was and he was like if the point the planchette pesara
Starting point is 00:53:50 much they could feel in the the so that that was that was that was
Starting point is 00:53:58 talliandos with dureza over the table and I and I'm and I'm and I'm when they
Starting point is 00:54:13 see this But they thought that it was a rock to be a carrying no
Starting point is 00:54:20 I've never no we're we're we're we're to talk
Starting point is 00:54:26 with Manuel no put a manuel we're we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:54:33 we're we're we're we're we're a order is a order
Starting point is 00:54:39 no they're a lot of what you what you're what you're of us
Starting point is 00:54:47 we're a death us in peace and I start to write this
Starting point is 00:54:57 this the person has a new and he he said he said let's
Starting point is 00:55:04 I'm to go to your and his friend he he kept
Starting point is 00:55:11 being because only he only he had never She said,
Starting point is 00:55:21 Mm. He said that he said, that I've done that he had done something he said,
Starting point is 00:55:28 he went with the handchae like the man, and the same to what iser
Starting point is 00:55:33 or what to ask, and in this, as a reality, without the
Starting point is 00:55:38 wind, from the from the from the dark from, and they were,
Starting point is 00:55:45 so, and, they were, and they He gave Tso that the only that he
Starting point is 00:55:56 did was to take the table without a session, guard her and he went to
Starting point is 00:56:03 his house. And his his friend and he went and he's going to goreying to the
Starting point is 00:56:07 she's going to obviously of this decided that they're that they're not going to
Starting point is 00:56:12 go to play with the table whiha passed some days but
Starting point is 00:56:19 every day was a better the day earlier. And I
Starting point is 00:56:24 know that the people say much this, no? So, they were things,
Starting point is 00:56:28 they were so, all that. But it was a better than that that's, because when
Starting point is 00:56:34 I thought that was the day, I was going to be to be to be all in
Starting point is 00:56:40 tranquillity and then of the bed, and he got to and he was a
Starting point is 00:56:48 bed, and it's like someone would have got had I was trying to, no,
Starting point is 00:56:55 I'm suggesting, this is real. Boom, the door. And then, the usurros. Then, the risa from the part most obscure of his room. And no could doorm. This thing not
Starting point is 00:57:18 was not allowed to doormer. No, I'd try to espantarro. It was every that she was getting in the the dream, he was he went to and when I
Starting point is 00:57:31 the day's and the days he was a the table. So, so he saw the table
Starting point is 00:57:58 in the house, he put the little the end of and he said, he said
Starting point is 00:58:06 to supplicar he, he said, for favor, for favor, detent,
Starting point is 00:58:14 let me in peace, no. And that he was to to to cry
Starting point is 00:58:22 and he he of offrenda, Sanger. Three days. And he accepted. Mentally. No, he said.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Only, I want to restan. He went to the kitchen. He took a cuchillo. Regressed his court and,
Starting point is 00:58:51 and, without think, no, the palm. He started to regar his own liquid vital over the table.
Starting point is 00:59:05 He said that, that night he was done in peace. He dole horrible, but he could do not be
Starting point is 00:59:15 the day next, when the night came to, he got that he took a
Starting point is 00:59:24 little little a little a small a little he was to do you know he got to the navage
Starting point is 00:59:31 and when he was when he was he was when he was the palm He did
Starting point is 00:59:37 He did He did He said He began to move He said No No
Starting point is 00:59:41 Tua And then So, Gato Oh Oh Gatito And he
Starting point is 00:59:53 He said No No I'm going to To No, no I'm going to Getar the
Starting point is 01:00:01 Aon No No I'm I'm going to I'm And he he was
Starting point is 01:00:07 he was he lago the hands he cured and he he he
Starting point is 01:00:13 he he got to you get to the the the
Starting point is 01:00:18 the when they were the the the the
Starting point is 01:00:23 the so they they they and they they
Starting point is 01:00:27 they they said that was the he was
Starting point is 01:00:31 the so that were passing the days and
Starting point is 01:00:36 he wanted resist resist, resist, but a day, there was a limit.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Salio in the night, and I saw a cat of the cat of the and he
Starting point is 01:00:48 he was and with the mind completely rota all the his whole,
Starting point is 01:00:55 all the doing to do you do you get to the life and
Starting point is 01:01:01 he rode the liquid over the table and he was he
Starting point is 01:01:07 he was to to sleep. But at the night's the next I'll the table and without
Starting point is 01:01:16 I asked, what do you want to me? I don't let's let's get the life
Starting point is 01:01:21 to any animal for you. I'm going to cut me the hands. Tendar's
Starting point is 01:01:27 to be satisfied with this. What more you? Your mother.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Mm. No manches. Dice. He said that's the lot of The deseration that took the table went to the patio of his
Starting point is 01:01:45 house, cabed a noyo the most profound that he put. The interro and he thought that with that would be sufficient
Starting point is 01:01:57 but I was very equivoked he said that since basically his life he was his life
Starting point is 01:02:06 and a day he no PUDO MASS. The experiences paranormal were tantas in not to do
Starting point is 01:02:15 that basically was basically was discusing and was rompiened and you he was. And when
Starting point is 01:02:24 he was to tell you to her mother what was going never he never found the
Starting point is 01:02:29 words and his mind not functioned so so that emergency
Starting point is 01:02:33 had had had to have to have to have to
Starting point is 01:02:38 and there the doctors started to do you know, they did those medicines very fertes for that
Starting point is 01:02:47 could be to be and so medicated for fin he could do know when he said
Starting point is 01:02:56 a place a place a place a little well he decided to say the truth
Starting point is 01:03:01 and obviously the medical were to make to make the Especially, buscunding
Starting point is 01:03:07 there was some some type of a disbalance chemical in the cerebris
Starting point is 01:03:13 schizophrenia, some a good, something, something that was that would be in him
Starting point is 01:03:18 that could explain what he said. But no there was a he was
Starting point is 01:03:25 a son. He was he was he was he was but only he
Starting point is 01:03:31 had a night and he he wanted to do to get to get to start the
Starting point is 01:03:36 and he had to make to make it and they're not dangerous as he
Starting point is 01:03:45 had never never they they made to his
Starting point is 01:03:49 house he today he he he he he
Starting point is 01:03:54 he he he he he he he he
Starting point is 01:04:04 all the nights, all the nights, because he has communicated that no he's going to and not to desisting until that
Starting point is 01:04:15 the third offrenda, the that he he said, I'll say, I'll write, not so to tell a
Starting point is 01:04:27 experience of terror, but because I want to know that never, never will to do that
Starting point is 01:04:35 my mother. but I know what can pass. Firt. Fugate, I've heard that I've seen in situations
Starting point is 01:04:47 similar, and is where they're in a disjunctive to say, I'm doing to one of the people that most am I
Starting point is 01:04:55 am I in the tranquillity or no. And, well, what, what good that he took the
Starting point is 01:05:02 decision correct, for the of not to do not to do not a person. I, I'm,
Starting point is 01:05:06 I'm sorry much for the gatito, because also it's a real that's a bit of that's the type of things. But with this, one way,
Starting point is 01:05:15 we know the consequences reales that can get to get a or the open a session in the whiffa without what weh
Starting point is 01:05:21 without. And what terrible that it, well, it's, it's just, in a cycle
Starting point is 01:05:29 in the that it's really to get to be to hear. Yes, because you have an
Starting point is 01:05:35 antecedent medical. a little a or a little bit of a person that's a lot of the days that you're going to get it? Or you're going to get it? The person that's amazing. No, that's terrible. That's terrible, because I'm sure that there's forms in that he can't revertire pacted. What he'll have passed to the other friend? I think he didn't know he'd have to have been to have been aterrower. Aterrado So,
Starting point is 01:06:10 not is the same that's there's like in your story, and of
Starting point is 01:06:13 you know, and the repent you're you're in the moment in the
Starting point is 01:06:17 moment in that all of all you hear that they was a combination
Starting point is 01:06:22 between a reason so it was not a not it but it was like,
Starting point is 01:06:26 but it was like a inexplicable it was an combination a
Starting point is 01:06:31 kind of like a burle and a oh, no, what you
Starting point is 01:06:36 It's that I think I know that that was going to go to be and that's well, no see, he's
Starting point is 01:06:42 burlable. And, in the history that I try go, it also also, of,
Starting point is 01:06:47 just about, why not to play the whiha, those advertencies that we can cost
Starting point is 01:06:52 car if we do if we do we want, if we're going to you know,
Starting point is 01:06:58 you're going to your mother and it's anonym what that's very
Starting point is 01:07:04 very very very very This story is the city in a little
Starting point is 01:07:08 people of the interior of Argentina in a family of five people
Starting point is 01:07:13 two two parents, two brothers and the chick that
Starting point is 01:07:18 she was the story were created under the religion Adventist
Starting point is 01:07:23 although then then each everyone was every was
Starting point is 01:07:27 every result that all it She didn't know that her mom was a
Starting point is 01:07:37 because when it was a very chica and he was two years inferma well,
Starting point is 01:07:44 of cancer. The cancer of pancreas had metastasis and when finally they revealed the fact
Starting point is 01:07:53 of this chick, is because she had nothing to do with the mom she
Starting point is 01:07:58 she felt well because practically he was they were they were
Starting point is 01:08:02 they were all this this, this, the mother without know that
Starting point is 01:08:07 was a a woman, until that was practically desauceada, no? This,
Starting point is 01:08:13 was, she was she was she did that, because she knew that, he,
Starting point is 01:08:19 he had liked, until when you had to be to be a end, no.
Starting point is 01:08:24 In November, of the year, the mom fell yes. She, she had
Starting point is 01:08:29 only 12 years of when her mom, well, fallece. Yes, but.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And this was unded in an obscurity very bad. She deprimed much, he was
Starting point is 01:08:42 desperate for seeing a mother, I thought that they had had rebat
Starting point is 01:08:46 without any explanation. No could be to get that she was,
Starting point is 01:08:52 not was not happy in that moment, so he undia
Starting point is 01:08:55 completely in the depression, and being in that depression without
Starting point is 01:09:00 to go to go to with friends I'm going to refugiarse to a certain more in the internet in things
Starting point is 01:09:10 that distracter a little of the suffering that was in that was very the model
Starting point is 01:09:17 just basically the table o'Iha to play with the table o'Iha the stories that can
Starting point is 01:09:22 in the school of this table there there's a table there a political that was
Starting point is 01:09:29 and in programs of television also they'd, and, well, in internet also was used. So, she started to have that idea of
Starting point is 01:09:36 that this article, if, if, if really could be to be able to the other side,
Starting point is 01:09:46 as like, as how much mentioned, no? An amiga of her, justly, he commented, that,
Starting point is 01:09:53 that this article, was, was used, was, for to communicate with people from the more than the more than that
Starting point is 01:10:02 he said, I mean, she said, so, she, like, like, very great rugs, no?
Starting point is 01:10:09 She, yeah, with more curiosity, yeah, with this guide that gave the other
Starting point is 01:10:15 more, decided to investigate more. And, if I, wanted to buy a tabla o'Ija
Starting point is 01:10:20 for her, to do, and be, provar for she-miss if if was, like all
Starting point is 01:10:27 the world said that you can't communicate with someone and obviously
Starting point is 01:10:31 she she was she she was to communicate to get to her she was
Starting point is 01:10:38 she was she was she was she was the little was there
Starting point is 01:10:44 wasn't whizhas no there there no way there there
Starting point is 01:10:50 then she decided to do her her that quite
Starting point is 01:10:54 similar to the other story that I was
Starting point is 01:10:56 Conte, I got it in a cartulina. He got her a cartulina, she looked in internet how she'd be in
Starting point is 01:11:02 a whiffa, all the he was, all the letters, the numbers, et cetera, and it
Starting point is 01:11:07 also in this investigation that he did a particular, he did count that many people
Starting point is 01:11:14 had a wayha in form so, asic casera, that they used
Starting point is 01:11:20 a vass of a crystal as planchette, those that were to do to do a planchette as a a barrow of crystal
Starting point is 01:11:28 of those that that no didn't have any of any of the use of the o'clock so she was the
Starting point is 01:11:33 o'clock so she did know? She did you put to do put up to the work and he
Starting point is 01:11:41 he said to all the world in his house so to do to try it.
Starting point is 01:11:48 She's he's he went to do not there any no there no there no
Starting point is 01:11:52 there any a noise, then he set he about his camera the table that she made he took the
Starting point is 01:12:00 vaso and he was to move it, as he said, he said a question, there's a person,
Starting point is 01:12:08 there's a person, no, no, no, he said, okay, maybe
Starting point is 01:12:15 it's doing all, he's, he, he, he, and at the moment
Starting point is 01:12:19 that she the basso the the the the the
Starting point is 01:12:22 the the the to where says she she
Starting point is 01:12:27 move so so so obviously that she he
Starting point is 01:12:32 was a but I wanted was really was
Starting point is 01:12:37 something was something was something for all the
Starting point is 01:12:40 I had that was so so so so
Starting point is 01:12:44 she with the voice a bit a bit she is
Starting point is 01:12:48 my mom and the thing is a no. This
Starting point is 01:12:54 yeah one that's so in a extreme to the no
Starting point is 01:12:59 that's of the other extreme it's it's it's it's
Starting point is 01:13:02 it's my imagination that I in a state of terror so so he's
Starting point is 01:13:09 he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's
Starting point is 01:13:13 he's he he's that's he's obviously to She said in the camera with the cartulina and the vase and he
Starting point is 01:13:23 molesta the papa and he says, how is that you're playing those things? They're of the devil. He's, he's trying the things, he rompe the table. Obviously, no, he could have been a session. And there's a little, no, in a regaio
Starting point is 01:13:37 of his papa. Obviously, well, if he's justed for this, the manned to doorme, After, she said that she said that that night, well, he said that night, but he was done and she kept dormita
Starting point is 01:13:49 and you're trying, not was something to communicate with a demon, if not, then, then, then, but obviously, the papa, if was still
Starting point is 01:13:58 was very molesto with her, and she was he reaganed very feo. The case is that the days pass.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Transcurren, with normality, but she could be that that sensation of that in his room, something,
Starting point is 01:14:13 something I was not she was a lot, and when was a only when
Starting point is 01:14:19 was a family in the house, she always that that was being
Starting point is 01:14:24 being being being being being was and that
Starting point is 01:14:27 and it and to get to she she
Starting point is 01:14:42 in the kitchen, like if they were arastraing things, like if if they were
Starting point is 01:14:48 getting the utensilions, I mean, I was, I mean, like if someone was there,
Starting point is 01:14:55 and at the first obviously, he's his family, but he know that when to
Starting point is 01:15:01 a point of the night, all all all of all right, and the ruid
Starting point is 01:15:04 even as still still still still still. So this obviously that he
Starting point is 01:15:08 starts more more more was a other isolated, yeah
Starting point is 01:15:13 was not only in the kitchen, it was in other parts
Starting point is 01:15:17 of the house when he's that that's that and the
Starting point is 01:15:21 that's he was and the father and he was also that
Starting point is 01:15:24 was a the and something that it was
Starting point is 01:15:28 that was so so the sound that the
Starting point is 01:15:32 sound of the sound of the along of
Starting point is 01:15:36 the pass obviously she with the with I would say to see what it was, and I
Starting point is 01:15:42 also had not been out of the but at this point of she, she said, she said, I said, what's going to? And she said to his brothers, oh, you know, you know, they were saying, and yet, that were doing
Starting point is 01:15:53 a word out of the, and no. So, nobody in the house, he'd hear that that was, and even, like, like, she, they'd take a little bit of
Starting point is 01:16:02 a little bit of, so, he'd say, hey, you imagine, or, like, they minimized
Starting point is 01:16:06 about what she was thinking. then there they were four days for that she
Starting point is 01:16:13 had been 15 years and occurred something she she
Starting point is 01:16:17 she she she she she was she was she
Starting point is 01:16:23 was dormied when de prento she so she she didn't
Starting point is 01:16:29 because she she she they're they're not so
Starting point is 01:16:32 so so when when you when you You feel like, you have to
Starting point is 01:16:39 go ahead and you're going to get to be going to be going. She's this terror so, and
Starting point is 01:16:45 he was going and he was he had a paralysis of the sun. I could move for
Starting point is 01:16:50 nothing part of his body, the only that could move were his
Starting point is 01:16:55 eyes, that for the position in the position in a face to a little
Starting point is 01:17:01 a corner to the room, it was all dark, but something
Starting point is 01:17:09 it made to feel in that yeah, it was a dark but it was more
Starting point is 01:17:17 more than it and even she had to be something he impeded to get to be remember we
Starting point is 01:17:23 could not could move the eyes and could be to turn to not even to do that
Starting point is 01:17:29 so in that so so that fea that was that he was a bad a
Starting point is 01:17:33 bit Noto that he started to start something that was that was
Starting point is 01:17:39 just it was just it was a form and it was to emerge
Starting point is 01:17:45 to him it was something that were those were that were even as
Starting point is 01:17:50 too too very long it was a long but
Starting point is 01:17:56 it was a long had the hands and it was that
Starting point is 01:18:01 the extremities were like contortioned in a form antinatural. She was
Starting point is 01:18:07 seeing how that thing was going to start to get a little to the
Starting point is 01:18:10 obscurity and not that I had also some those eyes that
Starting point is 01:18:15 they were and she she was a really that she was going to be
Starting point is 01:18:23 to be doing to be and that thing to come to run
Starting point is 01:18:29 and it was acercando to her. Dice that in the way that she was going to, more I'd go ahead,
Starting point is 01:18:38 and more I'd feel free. It was a frio. It was a colds, that was really was there
Starting point is 01:18:45 was like trembling, but no could move her body. And that thing is to start,
Starting point is 01:18:51 to get, to get, to her to her, to her, to her, to be over
Starting point is 01:18:55 his body. Although was over his body, if it could
Starting point is 01:19:00 can't feel, it can't be, but still without to be able to get to be able to get to
Starting point is 01:19:07 get to get to get to the rostro. And I was the thing that's that ince that was
Starting point is 01:19:16 that was that was the preto the respiration even she was she was
Starting point is 01:19:21 she was she was she was to get to she was that she no more,
Starting point is 01:19:27 that she didn't even could to breathe when when it the
Starting point is 01:19:31 door and is the brother. In the moment that the door she opens disappears
Starting point is 01:19:39 that there was that there was that finally she can move and when
Starting point is 01:19:44 she can move she can't start because yeah he felt even the
Starting point is 01:19:50 respiration and it was and he's he's and he he's he's
Starting point is 01:19:56 what you what you What's what's what's going to do my tarray there's I'm going to you're doing like you're
Starting point is 01:20:02 like a and that's because he's the other he was up and he was doing his time and the other
Starting point is 01:20:10 there was going to he went to reganing her and she she didn't even even didn't even
Starting point is 01:20:18 his own his own even to the same that they had made feel that they
Starting point is 01:20:22 didn't he said he had I've had a a pesidia I I'm very much to mom, and, for
Starting point is 01:20:28 that's I was I'm okay, the brother, well, okay, so, okay, he's going, and... That's so, it was, and... And it said that the things were to put more.
Starting point is 01:20:41 That this thing was, I was going to do you know, when I was, or, of a sudden, was there in a corner of her room, so,
Starting point is 01:20:51 so, always was that was close to her, until she had to a point in that she's not if she's
Starting point is 01:20:58 darked, if she's still a and she's not sure but he's feeling that's going to get
Starting point is 01:21:04 a lot of and there's another night that that's exactly the same the same thing
Starting point is 01:21:11 this bruma first, it's a thing that starts and be to get to and then to get to
Starting point is 01:21:18 and then he can't make a last time the same same exactly like,
Starting point is 01:21:23 as the previous occasion that the other that's
Starting point is 01:21:26 the other the he's the other again, he's
Starting point is 01:21:32 again, he's time, you know, you, you have you because
Starting point is 01:21:38 they're there's some there's because the she she had
Starting point is 01:21:42 put music there of that that of metal that's
Starting point is 01:21:45 so like that's that's that he he's the pap
Starting point is 01:21:50 said he pach your music how is that you you're putting music at this hour
Starting point is 01:21:55 we're trying to do not, and she never didn't even know what to say, no? So,
Starting point is 01:22:01 really, yeah was in a point of that she said, that she was getting
Starting point is 01:22:06 a local, that nobody he was that was a point very bad and, and another
Starting point is 01:22:13 night another night, now during, so he with a man, that's a
Starting point is 01:22:21 This this creature and he's to turn the form of this sir. But not
Starting point is 01:22:28 any of any person was his abuelito maternal. Sient that the presence
Starting point is 01:22:35 change a little, yeah no is too hostile, she not really,
Starting point is 01:22:38 she's a car that she she's a she in the dream and in
Starting point is 01:22:44 this dream or she she, well she she was still
Starting point is 01:22:47 in that she she's that she's that's that's to quebrate. This
Starting point is 01:22:52 thing, in form of his abuelo maternal, he's a second, he's a little, he's put on over her, she's sitting, he a carice the
Starting point is 01:23:02 rostro, so, with a turnour, and he says a suave, how I used to do the abelo, and he says, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:10 you know, you're all this termine, right? You're you're just can't say,
Starting point is 01:23:16 how can't you can't come to see to your mom. That you Yes. She responds
Starting point is 01:23:23 mentally. Yes. That's what I wanted to see a mom. Then he says,
Starting point is 01:23:31 is okay? Yeah you're going to be to see? Mauna is the day
Starting point is 01:23:37 in the you're to have the opportunity to see her. And she
Starting point is 01:23:44 not I didn't how he was to have to that opportunity
Starting point is 01:23:46 and he he he said you have to have to your life to be
Starting point is 01:23:52 Oh, okay she she's she's she's because for her
Starting point is 01:24:00 until that was a moment was and that that is not in all
Starting point is 01:24:05 the day no he's not he try try try
Starting point is 01:24:19 this thing that could be made she's she she's she's she's
Starting point is 01:24:30 to be she's she's she's a she's a idea she's a she's
Starting point is 01:24:47 she's got a she's As a little, like, I mean, I mean, every day that idea
Starting point is 01:24:53 that's a idea of going to see a my mom another way, it's more rational,
Starting point is 01:24:59 it was more, yeah, she, I said, I think that is the only
Starting point is 01:25:04 probably, more probably, exactly. What is? That's, that justly, to the
Starting point is 01:25:12 morning next that's the endida that is your last day
Starting point is 01:25:15 to to be able to do your desire. His father to make a child,
Starting point is 01:25:23 he will get a time, he's going to get a single in house, your brothers also
Starting point is 01:25:28 don't be able to you know, you know, he said his papa, so referring to that
Starting point is 01:25:34 then you know, that's you know, well, you know, to be able, to be doing,
Starting point is 01:25:39 but she she's she's she, you know what you know what you do you
Starting point is 01:25:44 he took more more like a signal of that she had to do she'd
Starting point is 01:25:51 get to the school like always so the desire
Starting point is 01:25:57 was that was that was that had written days
Starting point is 01:26:01 before a letter for her for her for that when
Starting point is 01:26:06 he he had done that was for to her
Starting point is 01:26:11 to find Yeah, well, I was, like, the things was trying, to be,
Starting point is 01:26:18 to be the value or not to do it, and she kept a dormita. And, and, and while she's
Starting point is 01:26:25 dormita, will be to see a man in dreams, and he says, it's moment of doing.
Starting point is 01:26:34 So, she, she gets a time, he, he, he, and he,
Starting point is 01:26:39 and, and, and, and, so, it, It's cut. No.
Starting point is 01:26:46 So, it's those points vitales. You know what happened? After
Starting point is 01:26:52 that that in urgencies. Desperta in urgencies. No said,
Starting point is 01:27:00 what had passed. He thought that finally had been transcended,
Starting point is 01:27:06 but no, I was in urgencies. And who was the armano.
Starting point is 01:27:11 How is that the son? It's resulta that she not saw that the
Starting point is 01:27:15 brother, if he was in the house, he was in the room and he he's not
Starting point is 01:27:21 he's to hear in the abitation of her like if they were they're
Starting point is 01:27:26 putting pietritas so like when when someone tere on a ventana
Starting point is 01:27:31 and he starts that he so he then he he gets so taken so he
Starting point is 01:27:36 got so he's he thought that was a man that he was about
Starting point is 01:27:42 that was about to And he, well, he says, well, not will be to go to play,
Starting point is 01:27:46 because, well, it's a little, this chica. So, he's going to see what he
Starting point is 01:27:51 was going and at the moment, was, he'd be to say, or say, to say,
Starting point is 01:27:58 that he could say, he was a put a piece, with a chark of and obviously,
Starting point is 01:28:04 that, he doesn't he, he'll be a, he's a, he's a emergency,
Starting point is 01:28:10 and they're They've given and obviously that, unfortunately, they're able to save the life to her. His family
Starting point is 01:28:19 is a about the father, he's very culpable because, because, never he
Starting point is 01:28:25 never, says she she that not forget her his face, the car that had to be
Starting point is 01:28:30 to be done to do he's a few times. The case is that that's
Starting point is 01:28:35 that's that's not that was the film. if it was the end of this etap,
Starting point is 01:28:42 we'll say to see to see this she's in the she's in she's the he's not, he says,
Starting point is 01:28:49 and he says that she he's not to be more in your house because they're in the
Starting point is 01:28:53 the apartment. So, then they're a other room, that's that's where she
Starting point is 01:29:00 was a little she's she never has the new the because
Starting point is 01:29:03 all the the movels that had they're, I'm in the room where she is.
Starting point is 01:29:07 And what occur? That, that, that's a hear of a lot of
Starting point is 01:29:12 but now in that the room. It's like in the
Starting point is 01:29:18 nights, something it's a raster, like something something like,
Starting point is 01:29:24 and that's what's the more to her unquested because he's how to
Starting point is 01:29:28 move something that is that, so, so, it
Starting point is 01:29:31 was as well as if that that thing were, that thing were, those, the world other
Starting point is 01:29:38 other way, she's to do you know, and they're not a other way, they're not,
Starting point is 01:29:44 they're not, they're saying, he's not, so, of the really, and she, she says,
Starting point is 01:29:50 it's that it's that it's something, that's something that's, that's, so,
Starting point is 01:29:54 so, so, so, so, his prima go to the house. If he was
Starting point is 01:30:00 a little a very there and there's a very much
Starting point is 01:30:03 and just that his prime and she's she can't hear that
Starting point is 01:30:12 that's moving something, that's that's that was like a
Starting point is 01:30:16 light for her because finally she was that I was
Starting point is 01:30:19 getting that was that was talking and he's
Starting point is 01:30:24 he's he he's just just just just just
Starting point is 01:30:28 ruitos. But another night, when they're in the bathroom, sepillatings the d'yentos, justly, it's just the casualty that the room where she was there was inter-abierta. It wasabiered, and the
Starting point is 01:30:46 prima, of pronto, was normal there, conversing with her, while she lavene the dents, and she kept so, like, like, like, all in-posa, shocked. And she, And she's what? What's the only He just he'll just be To puttar? When
Starting point is 01:31:00 Weren't the view where is her Habitation with the door inter-abirda, notice that from the room, they're in the hands Largues. Some hands large, justly like the
Starting point is 01:31:12 she had seen, like torsied, with some don't large, negras, super-feas. And the prima is doing, and she, they can't
Starting point is 01:31:22 to see, and it's a lot, and it was a terror for the two, but at least this chick, says, me reconfort to know that someone more me creed, someone more lobe, someone more put to do that what I was living, no, it was
Starting point is 01:31:36 something that was happening, no? Well, there's a, obviously, that the prima is super-assust, and yeah no-cure want to go back to the house, and, well, and, you know, and she still living a time more agi, but, well, you know want to continue, and, apennas could go to say to that house,
Starting point is 01:31:51 She said and he now He never to return to until recently
Starting point is 01:31:57 that's recently that his father felles so that
Starting point is 01:32:04 that she her hered she She has doubt to
Starting point is 01:32:09 because he said no I I've many many things
Starting point is 01:32:13 very things in this house but economically was
Starting point is 01:32:17 if it was an opportunity for her then he said, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:32:22 go to go to go to and I'm going to not going to not of what
Starting point is 01:32:27 happened in the moment he was convinced you were an adult that if
Starting point is 01:32:32 was going to do you could be to be to be that so
Starting point is 01:32:36 and so all beginning all was all was the
Starting point is 01:32:42 house normal but said that And, some a
Starting point is 01:32:47 few those Rewoods and the night's he will be to give
Starting point is 01:32:54 paralysis of the son, he'll to hear to
Starting point is 01:32:58 and he and in an occasion she, he, he, he,
Starting point is 01:33:03 he, saw, he, he went to to do not he
Starting point is 01:33:09 he, he, he, he, he he was he, he was
Starting point is 01:33:12 he was that was I was looking from the foot of the camera with a
Starting point is 01:33:18 semblance so completely and saying I'm I'm I'm going to run with you
Starting point is 01:33:24 then then says she said she this this thing she is moment
Starting point is 01:33:32 of being and that she has she has she has she has been
Starting point is 01:33:37 again again but no one he doesn't the
Starting point is 01:33:41 value and there finalisa the story What, fe. It's that
Starting point is 01:33:46 is that story and I feel that's trying to to oriard to do what what he
Starting point is 01:33:54 is her mother, not is her an an entity obscure that was a life,
Starting point is 01:34:01 after the after the after the session the whiff. It's very very when I was
Starting point is 01:34:08 when I said like, I was like, I'm like, I mean I feel that's a
Starting point is 01:34:13 mom. I mean had, I've I've had done when my
Starting point is 01:34:17 mom, with her with her in a form very horrible and I think that
Starting point is 01:34:21 not that it's another thing that was that's like for that
Starting point is 01:34:25 I'm that that that that that that accumulah
Starting point is 01:34:30 much energy of a energy of the of
Starting point is 01:34:35 death that there was where she did he was a
Starting point is 01:34:42 place there that there's much there's much there's there's definitely not,
Starting point is 01:34:49 no, no is, is something more, even the abuel, is something and it's
Starting point is 01:34:56 being the she's the that's the that has the area more so, so at
Starting point is 01:35:02 final, I think one of the things that we have to understand that is very,
Starting point is 01:35:06 very, very important, is that are the things very So, when a person is
Starting point is 01:35:17 a person is a planarama that's a possibility not is something to try. So, not it's like
Starting point is 01:35:26 simply you say, no, you know, you're saying, well, you know, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:31 but no, no, it's so, no, it's so, no, it's a woman, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:38 No, I'm nother, no, it's anonym, Look, I this I do this I do to all the
Starting point is 01:35:43 people of women, no important the age, no important the situation. The reality
Starting point is 01:35:48 is that when one is that when one's in a moment very very
Starting point is 01:35:51 difficult of the options are present. Much things are
Starting point is 01:35:59 options. But definitely definitely not it's not it's
Starting point is 01:36:07 so easily as easily, like, aferrata the life. So,
Starting point is 01:36:10 why you are you saying that I have to do you to be to be
Starting point is 01:36:15 to have to the idea that we have been that we're about much as a
Starting point is 01:36:19 much. And maybe in this moment, not be that that
Starting point is 01:36:23 is not, it's not never see the light at the
Starting point is 01:36:28 passage but believe that the light at the the final of
Starting point is 01:36:31 the psychologist a psychologist to you let say
Starting point is 01:36:37 how it's no you know the advice of an friend
Starting point is 01:36:41 or an my not not you don't you know not that's a
Starting point is 01:36:45 good a person that has been a person who has passed
Starting point is 01:36:50 not they're and they and the professionals of the
Starting point is 01:36:59 is to say to the sound like that I'm no no no no the professionals
Starting point is 01:37:02 of the Yeah. A me a depression very when I my
Starting point is 01:37:14 abelior of I mean, I was like, I was very similar I don't not even I'm
Starting point is 01:37:20 never even I'm not I'm never even and then and they're and you say you're
Starting point is 01:37:26 you're saying you're in the place of you know and I I can't say
Starting point is 01:37:33 I can't complimenting a little what you did you so I think in all what
Starting point is 01:37:37 I'm in some moment of to determine all and I do a
Starting point is 01:37:40 point and I'm I'm going to not there I'm you know and all the things that
Starting point is 01:37:46 I'm doing that I'm still doing not going so there's there's there's a thing
Starting point is 01:37:51 there always never just we just we just we just we're just
Starting point is 01:37:59 that when you see the light no there's no exist that
Starting point is 01:38:03 the motor of the but if something serve simply
Starting point is 01:38:09 because if you do it simply because if do you do with a professional
Starting point is 01:38:15 of the health is very important is very important no it's not to get a
Starting point is 01:38:19 psychologist to the psychiatrist no there's nothing of the mule
Starting point is 01:38:25 you don't have to the dentist no it's there's there's there can't
Starting point is 01:38:30 say you know you pass a bell we're we're this is
Starting point is 01:38:34 a I don't know I'm going to to give a good for the advice I'm going to know I'm
Starting point is 01:38:39 a channel of a no, no. Be with a psychologist with a psychologist
Starting point is 01:38:43 with a social woman not you don't you know directly psychologist psychologist
Starting point is 01:38:49 and let me that's then after the wayha then the thing
Starting point is 01:38:56 that's what is what is doing the that first for
Starting point is 01:38:58 that first okay this this is this is my second history
Starting point is 01:39:04 and And ultimate, the men most devotos of the faith
Starting point is 01:39:10 Christian, those that say that his is inkebrantable, it's that it
Starting point is 01:39:16 is, until they've been for first the Cuernes of
Starting point is 01:39:21 Lucifer. And now understand why? You see in
Starting point is 01:39:26 first instance, a sacerdote jugando a wih? No.
Starting point is 01:39:32 No? to go to drive for a recorritory in the while a sacerdote it will ask and now understand why. So, I just give them to this little anticipo because that me seems a story very, very interesting but also me it seems that have many elements
Starting point is 01:39:48 that really, they're done much more much more than this story, for suppose, is anonym, is the body of Christ. This story, no, it's just a ex-sacredote, and says that this story He was about approximately between 10 and 12 years.
Starting point is 01:40:08 He lived in a community nearer in the Leone, of Leone, Guantuaato. He was in the parroquia, was doing his activities normal, was he was playing, he was barriending the patio, and in a moment, he went to a senior with his son. His son had approximately,
Starting point is 01:40:26 between 12, 14 years. He was a little bit of a little. She went with her She said, Entro y'clock The sacerdote He said, I'm gonna do,
Starting point is 01:40:35 I'm gonna' She said, Father, for favor, helpen us. But what is what is what she said?
Starting point is 01:40:41 She said to say that there were many elements paranormal that were all the days. He said
Starting point is 01:40:47 that's that they were voices, that a sometimes movian the things of the place,
Starting point is 01:40:52 that sometimes pegs in the doors or assotable something. But that really
Starting point is 01:40:56 really was that really really I thought that this was the initial of the problem that had today in
Starting point is 01:41:01 the problem that he had was just that his his son had suffered a deteriorer physical
Starting point is 01:41:09 very very preoccupant yeah not he not was a not he not he
Starting point is 01:41:16 was not he had not had I was not he had to get a little to
Starting point is 01:41:22 get to get much much of so it was very mermed in question of health,
Starting point is 01:41:29 for all this type of things that were going in the why the mother acutio because evidently
Starting point is 01:41:35 there was a normal but she was what he was what he was that was that he was the sacerote
Starting point is 01:41:42 the sacerdote the the priest starts to talk to the child in all moment he knows
Starting point is 01:41:46 that he know what is what is what is what is just he just he doesn't
Starting point is 01:41:50 I'm I'm don't have no I'm don't want to generally I'm
Starting point is 01:41:54 feel I'm deco I'm decayed, no I want to my friends and the
Starting point is 01:41:59 sacerdote in some moment he said a woman and he can't you know about him
Starting point is 01:42:04 15 minutes a solas and she she says she a leja of the church and
Starting point is 01:42:12 he's kept the the sacerdote with the with the and he he said
Starting point is 01:42:16 okay what is what is what what is what did you did do you did something
Starting point is 01:42:24 to provoke provoke all this, you know, you know, someone's a problem in the school, someone's going to to do you?
Starting point is 01:42:34 Why are you getting to all this? You're just trying to get to cry and he says, probably I see what is what happened. And he says, what happened? Well, in the school they've got a wheeha
Starting point is 01:42:49 and my friend in some moment I was, me la presto to get to get a house. Dentro of my house, I'm it was a good. And me
Starting point is 01:42:59 it was really everything I was really everything that I'd say, for a tont that I'd ask you to ask you to
Starting point is 01:43:08 even who'd even to win a party of football, and me and when I saw that I was to
Starting point is 01:43:13 start and to and to play and to play and to play. But there there was a moment in that I
Starting point is 01:43:16 did the control of the game. And I I gave to more to 25
Starting point is 01:43:21 in a period very, very short. There was a moment in that it's a bit of being a
Starting point is 01:43:26 question but also also to you're doing when I'm doing, they're going to
Starting point is 01:43:32 start this type of things in my house but I don't know what is if they
Starting point is 01:43:37 spantan if they see they're in a repented sombras if they're
Starting point is 01:43:42 they're they're some on the night I'm in murmoo
Starting point is 01:43:45 there there's many things that are many is my I simply
Starting point is 01:43:51 I just I'm and the the sacerdote he says okay he
Starting point is 01:43:57 he's he put to think a mother he's he's he's he's
Starting point is 01:44:03 I don't so I'm expert in this type of objects I could I would
Starting point is 01:44:07 go and send to your house could I would be to
Starting point is 01:44:10 your good to you to be to you but honestly
Starting point is 01:44:14 not I think that is sufficient Let me some days I'm going to consult a person to another sacredote,
Starting point is 01:44:21 my, that he if has experience in this type of things. Maybe, no see, some require an exorcism, no,
Starting point is 01:44:28 I don't have the idea. Dame an opportunity to checker what is what I do to do. And the mother he says,
Starting point is 01:44:36 okay, this sacerdote is a task to do a ex-companero of the seminary the while always took
Starting point is 01:44:43 this good or this dedication for these things paranormal, always has been pegged for supposed to
Starting point is 01:44:47 the lineations of the church Catholic. I know the the passos to bring a
Starting point is 01:44:54 session of Yaha, to start it, I know about not only this thing,
Starting point is 01:44:59 but exorcism and other other type of things, I've seen that they've
Starting point is 01:45:03 seen that they're very interesting and he said, a bit, let me talk about
Starting point is 01:45:10 what you you have to do you. You're all the reason of the world. No
Starting point is 01:45:14 it's not with going to give and bless with this youngcett. What he
Starting point is 01:45:18 is to do this other people is to try to get a one, we know
Starting point is 01:45:24 we have to do you do it is to do you to get to attract
Starting point is 01:45:31 to the time that's that's in the moment that's you
Starting point is 01:45:37 you're you're the you're the and we're you work
Starting point is 01:45:40 you function. Why? Because the youngcito, evidently, never a carlough the session. Sin embargo it is very important that who can open the session be he. No, you.
Starting point is 01:45:52 You let's to start. He'll have to open. Why? Because he he has a door open. He needs to do the canal normally to attract a la or the entities that have
Starting point is 01:46:03 passed on this side. It's so that the sacerdote regress with the family, he explained, the mother what was
Starting point is 01:46:10 what was he said, he said, he said, and he says, we're going to be
Starting point is 01:46:16 to make a invocation, we need to have to get to open, and I go to try to and we'll
Starting point is 01:46:24 see it and we're it's a other side. If not it's not it's not to make
Starting point is 01:46:31 to do it I'm maybe the contact of my company and you'll help you.
Starting point is 01:46:36 The mother the acceded evidently to that this is to dove to go to a house of this youngcito a time of
Starting point is 01:46:43 and they're to get a guilla. The sacerdote simply he says, he's a open the session
Starting point is 01:46:51 like you did this 15 or 20 times. The mother he's only in a quarter
Starting point is 01:46:56 that was the comedor of the house and the youngcito and he's to play
Starting point is 01:47:01 put the the planchette and he makes to make to the invocation for the
Starting point is 01:47:05 Uiha, he gets to contested some questions. Here I'm going to citar some words that the sacerdote said, I think it's important
Starting point is 01:47:13 because I think they're saying they're to use, open the session, and in a moment where he
Starting point is 01:47:22 is the moment that's the second, the sacerdote decided then to take the ritual to start the
Starting point is 01:47:30 session in the whiha that he had commented his name. A gross mode, he'scribe
Starting point is 01:47:33 this. before to start mentally he's to rest to rest some and when
Starting point is 01:47:40 he's going to start the session and he's his name Patris et philly at spiritus sancti
Starting point is 01:47:47 is in the name of the father of the he's he said he said
Starting point is 01:47:51 he's he's he's and he's he's he's he's he's
Starting point is 01:47:57 he's the table and he began to move and he began to
Starting point is 01:48:03 some sense, he started to move to another, of another, without to mark a other,
Starting point is 01:48:08 he then continued saying, Claudimus Januam, what he says, we're saying,
Starting point is 01:48:13 we're doing, we're doing, we're saying, the pressure, obviously the pressure, it's been
Starting point is 01:48:19 more more, not that that were to start to start to be to start
Starting point is 01:48:24 to think, simply they started like very oppressive, very oppressive the
Starting point is 01:48:29 ambient, like very very very, very very very he
Starting point is 01:48:32 finalisa saying Ed Cout is ultra Mane at Ultra what
Starting point is 01:48:38 means and what is on the other side permanence on
Starting point is 01:48:42 the other other type of other type of or that
Starting point is 01:48:47 it is the man the man simply simply
Starting point is 01:48:53 simply is a a point into the table
Starting point is 01:48:57 and there both are spanted, are in a moment of tension, and justly, where it's at the table where
Starting point is 01:49:06 says, adieu. The sacerdotte regressed on-seye, he regressed, like the soul, the childsito was crying,
Starting point is 01:49:16 the mother was crying, and it was that the environment was a little. The sacerote
Starting point is 01:49:23 recoged his things, he went, and with the past of the days, he, he said to the
Starting point is 01:49:29 mother, that he was saying, well, how was feeling in the house, how was going to this young,
Starting point is 01:49:36 if he had normally some questions paranormal, that's there and passed about 15 days approximately,
Starting point is 01:49:43 the mom went to be to be a sacerdote and this time was to thank you, and he
Starting point is 01:49:48 said, thanks to what he had done, he had done, but what he did,
Starting point is 01:49:52 the house, the house, he was, he was over, to recover, I'm going to get a
Starting point is 01:50:00 little, it's, it was like, very of terror, and that the youngsito, after these he was going, he started to
Starting point is 01:50:08 get to get, he started, and he said, the things that are the things that are, the normal. So,
Starting point is 01:50:14 he said, he said, he said, I'm, I think, what did, but I'm I'm,
Starting point is 01:50:18 I'm going to talk to a table, never more to get to a type of things that no
Starting point is 01:50:24 know, and the sacerdote he said, well, then we're we're going, gan us. And it
Starting point is 01:50:31 and it probably there the history because really there could have terminated the sacerdote.
Starting point is 01:50:36 But when we said a phrase, and I said, you know, you'll understand you, you
Starting point is 01:50:42 understand, because this was a man of a certain point experimented, so, his faith
Starting point is 01:50:49 in God was very great, and after this event, but, for suppose, his faith
Starting point is 01:50:54 was made much more great, because, because, he saw, with the methods you can
Starting point is 01:51:01 get to be to get to the demons. So, what was going to pass the days,
Starting point is 01:51:07 and in the church, he started dreams, sueynes, sooos because he said that
Starting point is 01:51:14 in the night, they were some there were the eyes, if it were
Starting point is 01:51:18 a little in the darkness, but they were the paralysis and then he was he was
Starting point is 01:51:25 he was he was he was a manned he he said he was runbo alatrio of the he was a much more a lot of a lot of terror
Starting point is 01:51:46 but in the but in the dream he cameina even though he he didn't care his feet they still advanced a pass and another and other
Starting point is 01:51:53 until get to the atrio of the church and when I'm very close
Starting point is 01:51:56 of this macho cabrio he simply balaba to the sound
Starting point is 01:52:02 and then he said he said he he was in the dream as
Starting point is 01:52:09 and he was being vomiting the body of Christ and
Starting point is 01:52:15 he he he was paralyzed of the me. Despertable, despertable,
Starting point is 01:52:22 I'd start about, despertable, for all what he'd seen during that year, that for him, it was real, although really were really were dreams, were many pesadillas. At the part of that that was all this, within the church, they'd, and they'd be certain
Starting point is 01:52:36 manifestations. When he was just a lot, just after the time, a lot of the patios, a veces, he'd ever to be a lejos, a sombra, so at the final of the, of the, of the bank,
Starting point is 01:52:51 incada, as if I was recant, and when he was a little bit, it was a one of the santa was a
Starting point is 01:52:57 one of the suns, or was a sure that there was a sunburn of the lamp, the sombre of the santa,
Starting point is 01:53:05 no I have the menor idea. All these events were to escalar, to escalar, to escalar,
Starting point is 01:53:10 to be, after a night, that just he was He was going to give a paralysis of the but in this occasion if it was open
Starting point is 01:53:20 the eyes. He was able to move. He was there. He was in these little quarters that have the sacerdotes in the churches,
Starting point is 01:53:27 he opened those are those have done that it seems that all is like it's like time being the view in
Starting point is 01:53:35 a one only point and then then she was the cabra parada in front of him this macho cabrio
Starting point is 01:53:42 one once he he was he was without he could do anything he could be
Starting point is 01:53:49 he said he said he was going he was he was he was he was the paralysis of
Starting point is 01:53:56 the and the things started to escalar because with the pass of the
Starting point is 01:54:02 days yeah not only they were not only were that when when he was
Starting point is 01:54:09 when he was when he was to be he was going to get moreetones in different parts
Starting point is 01:54:13 of body, like if something he had puted, but no record about that had been made that had been with a move, or that during the
Starting point is 01:54:22 night had been an event paranormal and they had been pegged, simply were to start with many mortetones in the
Starting point is 01:54:29 body. All these phenomena, so were extending the presence of this macho cabrio in
Starting point is 01:54:37 the suenios, this presence obscure that was at the end atreo the atrio of the church,
Starting point is 01:54:42 it was with a major frequency. until that no put more. No put more and he said, probably the mal is the church. Probably the mal
Starting point is 01:54:52 has defied the designals of God and had entered to this place prohibitive for them. When he started to think this, he said, and if I go? And if I'm changed to the church?
Starting point is 01:55:06 When he started to say this and he said, and if I don't know, maybe not I don't the force maybe
Starting point is 01:55:12 not I know the the the the the force necessary
Starting point is 01:55:16 to proceed with this and then in the idea
Starting point is 01:55:21 renunciate to renunciate when he formulated this idea
Starting point is 01:55:26 uh certainly says that just just compensated with
Starting point is 01:55:30 the past of the days the events started to
Starting point is 01:55:33 when he said no if I he was he kept, and then he detected that really what
Starting point is 01:55:42 was that was on the other other side, he was impuging to that were the events were really
Starting point is 01:55:48 traumaticos, the pesadillas all this that was very very feo. So in some moment he really
Starting point is 01:55:55 said, me go. He spoke with his superior, he spoke with the person
Starting point is 01:56:00 that were on on the and he and he he said without much a clarification
Starting point is 01:56:05 that simply for reasons personal, he had to renunciate to,
Starting point is 01:56:09 to the sacerdocio, pardon, the did the tracet pertinence, that's they're in
Starting point is 01:56:14 the other sacertotes, and they're under their superiors, and they've a series of ceremonies,
Starting point is 01:56:21 not as a conclabe, but it's something very very very very much, where they keep them
Starting point is 01:56:25 all, for you know, for a religious, so, for that so he's
Starting point is 01:56:29 that he's that he said, that one that he he's He was awayed the church
Starting point is 01:56:35 these events, then disappeared. Today, he's like a man
Starting point is 01:56:42 normal, ale of the faith of God, he repented to have
Starting point is 01:56:46 had had what he considered was his vocation. But he said,
Starting point is 01:56:54 that these those malignos who are who they have the faith
Starting point is 01:56:59 more more to keep to them. live in normal, live at a certain point
Starting point is 01:57:06 but totally awayed of the religion. Who anybody? Who did he? Why, nobody? What's the bad on? No?
Starting point is 01:57:16 Yes. So, so if each, you know, I don't want to ask help? Well, here the point
Starting point is 01:57:24 is that in the history no, there's a part where I said I'd say a good to the cardenal
Starting point is 01:57:28 or I'd So, I'm not maybe he was a man, not,
Starting point is 01:57:34 no, but he had many years to know, no, yeah, I'm, yeah,
Starting point is 01:57:39 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm, and I'm going to be a more I'm going to
Starting point is 01:57:47 probably, probably was a person great, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:57:50 doesn't the age, no, but, he said, but he's he's, he's,
Starting point is 01:57:54 he's, he's, but, yeah, because, then, then, then,
Starting point is 01:57:58 the sacerdotes, like they're like they're the stories of those that literally
Starting point is 01:58:04 were in the battle, like the Father Mort and all that. But how of them
Starting point is 01:58:10 say in a day, no, yeah. But how times that's the father
Starting point is 01:58:15 of mort they're to give to be for that a lot of times and things
Starting point is 01:58:21 horrible that were and they said and they were and so that's even
Starting point is 01:58:26 that's all to for that I think there are many people who say no, yeah, no? I mean, no, no, not you know, not you know,
Starting point is 01:58:36 but, then front to something like, I mean, I mean, it's like, oh, the little
Starting point is 01:58:42 a, the little and a, uh, a, a ser of the barhoastral. Who knows,
Starting point is 01:58:48 no? So, you, you, so, you, okay, I go this,
Starting point is 01:58:52 I do this, I do do it, I'm doing, but if it's, well, but if it go there, and if
Starting point is 01:58:58 you do it, and if it's, and if it's he has helped, but how people, has been the battle? Tal-
Starting point is 01:59:07 when you know when I see, he was in him, he said, no, I'm going to do you,
Starting point is 01:59:12 no? Yeah, I've done. What have you? What are you? I'm, I'm, probably,
Starting point is 01:59:20 that, me, to help me to come to get me to, and then, and then,
Starting point is 01:59:24 maybe, I would me would. You know, I guess what I'm going to do you. So, I'm
Starting point is 01:59:30 going to the church a little bit of the situation. So, a basis is understandable that the person
Starting point is 01:59:37 external and the people are and the times even in many, this, almost asconded.
Starting point is 01:59:43 But if there's a stigma in the church for this type of creencies, maybe,
Starting point is 01:59:48 accept that a sacerdate is being attacked by forces obscure and that
Starting point is 01:59:54 he was been seen no he did a or maybe he did and he did a year
Starting point is 01:59:59 because simply not they're they're because it result in this type of stories, no?
Starting point is 02:00:06 There are stigmas very, very very very fertes. I know when I'm
Starting point is 02:00:09 a person that I was formed as a sacerdote and saw a very
Starting point is 02:00:15 and he said no and he renunciu to the that was not where language
Starting point is 02:00:22 There are some That's like So, that's like The same, I can't how it's called He was,
Starting point is 02:00:28 he was He had one and he renunciable to Yeah Yeah Yeah So,
Starting point is 02:00:34 because he said, no, that's that's the movies is like super
Starting point is 02:00:39 spectacular, no? Like horrible but spectacular And then when you see
Starting point is 02:00:44 to be to him all- and all- -s- -
Starting point is 02:00:47 I used this person and I said because he He helped like a
Starting point is 02:00:51 million. I mean, but yeah is the pan of every day. But he not is
Starting point is 02:00:56 he was formed as a person and when he was a man who was a demonio
Starting point is 02:01:01 with that that's the person to hear the person, who is the he's the second.
Starting point is 02:01:09 That's the that's the benefit for the demonio so, lamentably nobody's
Starting point is 02:01:17 is that one is that one is that one is that is that live. Yes. I suppose that would be
Starting point is 02:01:21 be horrible I don't know but what what I said after that and I've had used to other people
Starting point is 02:01:27 but not he had to talk a case difficult due after that he's much,
Starting point is 02:01:33 this is what I think I think I know this I'm not that's like that's he's
Starting point is 02:01:38 just this he's just this he was just this he was yeah he was and he was before
Starting point is 02:01:44 before before before before I'm no yeah well just is what he
Starting point is 02:01:48 was the the faith not was sufficient. And is that I feel that, as well a medical, the sacerdotes and the masters
Starting point is 02:01:56 have been their vocation, all the careras, but specifically these, because there are people who, like he can
Starting point is 02:02:02 have to be to be able to you and I live us, we're in the north of the country in some moment,
Starting point is 02:02:10 we've seen how despojaro literally a demonio, horrible, and the person that was when it was
Starting point is 02:02:15 when I was was like, so, Pfeb was like, I was like looking an excuse, and this person
Starting point is 02:02:21 to come in a chevichito to do that and I'm like, oh, so, what you do you do that cost
Starting point is 02:02:26 but it's vocation. Yes, it's vocation but the first occasions are sure that the vocation is,
Starting point is 02:02:33 the force and the faith, but are people very fertes that can overpass that type of things and
Starting point is 02:02:39 that, you know, so, they're making doing it so, oh, So,
Starting point is 02:02:47 I'm so. Look, the thing of the whiz is difficult. So,
Starting point is 02:02:53 so I'm to tell a story that's very d'n a name. And it's
Starting point is 02:03:00 anonym. Okay. Okay? With this we're going to start. We're going to try
Starting point is 02:03:08 to not to not to be not because it's much that with the
Starting point is 02:03:14 tribus urbanas of some we have ideas erroneous no so I'm
Starting point is 02:03:18 so I'm I'm going to say when I'm going to when I'm the hip hop in the United
Starting point is 02:03:24 if you he's a little no no I don't I don't I don't have to
Starting point is 02:03:29 be of the color of the I'm what's passing with the music and the
Starting point is 02:03:34 same so I'm the same has been but there's there's in the
Starting point is 02:03:40 tribus urbanas so we're so let's let's let's
Starting point is 02:03:44 to not simply just to just to just being a honest with what he's talking. The fact
Starting point is 02:03:53 it's not, and this is I'm going to say, oh, I'd like that my name
Starting point is 02:03:57 would be my number and aminiscate. Yeah, that my family and I want to know that's this child
Starting point is 02:04:07 was a year, was very, very young when, well, obviously a
Starting point is 02:04:14 sometimes when we're in the tap of the youth, we have a heart a rebel, and of a point we're
Starting point is 02:04:22 we're with certain things and other, to her she was much everything to what had to
Starting point is 02:04:27 do, in his words, it was like with the stetica dark. And I
Starting point is 02:04:32 had a nobio that also was too that's super in that. And so
Starting point is 02:04:36 basically everything all the was all the was really was
Starting point is 02:04:41 very cool for them from the form of the way of vestir, the words, the things that said,
Starting point is 02:04:47 the literature that they were, the music that were in, the music that's all. And this all means
Starting point is 02:04:54 all. So obviously also also also, also, the to bever much alcohol,
Starting point is 02:05:01 the consume substances illicitas of a diario, of much, the say, ah,
Starting point is 02:05:07 you know, we're going to do we're going to a session spiritista, we're going to do this, we'll do another.
Starting point is 02:05:13 So, and as much, prohibit, more we're going to do. They're going to be made in this. At the grader of that we're going to
Starting point is 02:05:24 in a cemetery, in the madrugada to do a ritual, probing things. Provabing things and did say in some occasion this nobio
Starting point is 02:05:34 that had had been by there, I had to buy a wigga and he had I had the tabla with him
Starting point is 02:05:43 They were at a house to a friend where they were to join two, three friends more, amos and they were
Starting point is 02:05:50 to take a beerse to consume these substances and they were the first in getting there and he said
Starting point is 02:05:57 I'm going to go to buy a service yeah let's no no no wait I go
Starting point is 02:06:02 so I'm well well the friend so they they said and the novi
Starting point is 02:06:07 he said to her I'm I'm the wheeha, we have to a to have
Starting point is 02:06:13 a a little, a little in what he in what he goes, oh, he's,
Starting point is 02:06:20 oh, no, he's, oh, no, it's, they're, they're,
Starting point is 02:06:24 so, you know, so, you know, that's, that's in the Mood.
Starting point is 02:06:28 This is in Guadalajara. And it's then to get to then to to give
Starting point is 02:06:35 to the You know, it's that immediately, the first what she thought was that was going to be
Starting point is 02:06:42 to be a time, as he was he was done in other occasions that other people, with some
Starting point is 02:06:47 questions and more, but no, immediately it was it was like the energy was ready
Starting point is 02:06:55 for that that session. When it's moving rapidly, there's there, yes,
Starting point is 02:07:02 of immediate, of immediate. Well, obviously the impression, but the wow, no? We're very darks. We're going to.
Starting point is 02:07:13 We're going to continue. And come back to ask us. First, he's like the manna, well, the fact very intelligent,
Starting point is 02:07:21 for not to say to her, or he to, he, he's, moving, you, you know, you're saying,
Starting point is 02:07:26 that's things. Uh, uh, and then he asked, I never, he said, and she did
Starting point is 02:07:32 the same. Asked something, to ask, something that only did I saw it, things that the
Starting point is 02:07:36 no-no-you know- because at the whole because of the whole about the
Starting point is 02:07:41 name of the first is the name of my first mascot when was a little and I'm
Starting point is 02:07:46 and I just she said. And he asked about something about. How
Starting point is 02:07:52 was my master of third of primary? Pam, pam, pam, pam,
Starting point is 02:07:57 then he said, they'd they'd they're that that, at the
Starting point is 02:08:02 to be saying, who's doing. Who is that's contacting know what is doing.
Starting point is 02:08:08 And he said this chick, how me I'm my name? And he's
Starting point is 02:08:13 to deletrar his number letter by letter. Yes? So, is real,
Starting point is 02:08:18 no? Okay. After to be playing there a little little,
Starting point is 02:08:25 of the next, the only the only we and you and he
Starting point is 02:08:31 is contestant who is. Then he asks to the table. How many
Starting point is 02:08:38 people are in this moment in this place? Inmediate go to gore
Starting point is 02:08:45 the number three. He still he was thinking like to be a bit, no?
Starting point is 02:08:50 He's a moment to he to be a friend no, no,
Starting point is 02:08:54 no, no, no, no, no has no no there
Starting point is 02:08:55 no the department so to Polka's hands and then she
Starting point is 02:09:02 asks Three people Two men and one No Okay
Starting point is 02:09:12 Two Mugner And then Okay So, So, So, So,
Starting point is 02:09:20 So, How's How's Chica? G A B and
Starting point is 02:09:29 Gabi Okay, Very well P He asked him, how Mugue Gabi? Accident. He said that in this moment
Starting point is 02:09:41 she left her hands. He said, you know, you know, I said, I mean, so, yeah, very good, all this, that's so
Starting point is 02:09:50 so we're so and we're just, and more, in that moment between this child, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 02:09:58 is that there's the service that we're like, and what do? No, we're just we have we had, oh, I
Starting point is 02:10:05 want to play, and like, she was going to, and like, she was there, and, they were there, and there were other people, questions, don't know, to get,
Starting point is 02:10:14 me going to be to get to- go to- you, you know, but, yeah not that, yeah, not was like,
Starting point is 02:10:21 what they had experienced, in some moment, simply, they're just they're going to start, to consume,
Starting point is 02:10:29 alcohol and other things, and, then, was, it was a fiestia. Nothing more.
Starting point is 02:10:36 Of the actually, yeah, when you're, they've been some of various copitas and more,
Starting point is 02:10:41 like they started to, to have to do you, to do you, the owner of the department and to the
Starting point is 02:10:47 other and the other that's that's what had happened. And he said,
Starting point is 02:10:51 pardon, you, we're just we're just, we're just you know, promilla's this type
Starting point is 02:10:56 and he's yeah, no, that's it that's that's that you want to
Starting point is 02:11:01 what you want you simply I'm it's the day they went and we know to
Starting point is 02:11:07 our friend that she she knew like a little no say I know not I'm
Starting point is 02:11:11 not I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure what you see that is that it's that
Starting point is 02:11:20 probably I was that there probably I'd I'm I'm and I
Starting point is 02:11:24 puttes but there there was something more that had changed it's
Starting point is 02:11:30 like if had changed something into me. In effect. Ljow that day of the
Starting point is 02:11:36 month and no, it's so they started to pass the time and decided to make a
Starting point is 02:11:46 prevvvvv. For support in effect he was she was so so, then she said
Starting point is 02:11:54 that when she and her and her knowio see the proof of a person that
Starting point is 02:11:59 is positive that was that was a notice devastator at the principle, because he said
Starting point is 02:12:06 honestly, what we're those are those adolescents and responsible that we'd we'd be we're our own our parents
Starting point is 02:12:14 and we we're we're and dostances alcohol and to doteries that's what
Starting point is 02:12:21 was what was and the point it was it's put very the fact that now
Starting point is 02:12:25 we're going to make a a person responsible because
Starting point is 02:12:27 it has a a life in a way and and if And she, well, she
Starting point is 02:12:33 had to joiners with the majority of his friends, because they were to take, consume, and she, well, she, well, I mean, at least last three months, but now that I knew, that was, you know, and I was
Starting point is 02:12:48 a baby, yeah no I wanted to frequentarles, and also the noviour, because then the noviour, so he had to get a job serious, because he had to put down to to be responsible for this that
Starting point is 02:13:00 he was going to say they're even they're they're just they're rapidly then just this,
Starting point is 02:13:06 no, to be dark etes and more and the more he was advancing that that's
Starting point is 02:13:12 the thing, what in a first was a notice that was a
Starting point is 02:13:17 now was a that she, to her and he was given to their life,
Starting point is 02:13:23 they'd never was going to money and was very contented Yeah,
Starting point is 02:13:27 I'm going to like the like the things, like the and it's a and he said for example
Starting point is 02:13:33 in the time the discussion that was the discussion more that was about the name.
Starting point is 02:13:41 And they they chose a name. Lucia. Lucia. I said that they were thinking the
Starting point is 02:13:47 name was going to say Lucia and they just was much. They were very,
Starting point is 02:13:51 very, very emoconados. Very emoconos. Of Pronto, you know, I had literally
Starting point is 02:13:58 eight months of a marriage. Yeah, it was a little and his life had
Starting point is 02:14:04 changed radically and the fact, that was that he felt for him, and the that he
Starting point is 02:14:09 felt for it, because you know, the love, with all the respect
Starting point is 02:14:13 of the world, of simply of children, and sometimes,
Starting point is 02:14:16 but there were six adolescents children, proxious father and mother,
Starting point is 02:14:22 with a responsibility to that was unia to make more that more and then
Starting point is 02:14:27 it was a eight months, it was one of the last revisions, a consulta of routine
Starting point is 02:14:34 and every consulta not know they're saying that is like a mix between nerves and
Starting point is 02:14:40 and they're so they're with those nerves and felicity and they they're
Starting point is 02:14:46 they're they're and then the doctora he said the baby Lucia is
Starting point is 02:14:55 very and they're going to have been so I'm going to say I'm
Starting point is 02:15:01 saying that I'm going to be a part of natural and they're very well and they're very content
Starting point is 02:15:07 so they're so they were, they were on the coach and when they were
Starting point is 02:15:12 thinking and talking and talking in all this when when of
Starting point is 02:15:16 a a coach a car impacted directly He said that she just recalls
Starting point is 02:15:26 like the color of the coach, the explotar of the windows, pf to hear
Starting point is 02:15:34 people, and listen people, repeat your name, repeat his name, repeat, and then all was
Starting point is 02:15:43 like a dream. When, of the moment, opened the eyes, and,
Starting point is 02:15:52 well, had been passed a few days, was in the hospital. He said that the first that he noticed is that his abdomen
Starting point is 02:15:59 was a plain. It was the first that he was was a plain and like rigid. And when he he was to the left to the other
Starting point is 02:16:09 to the other novio that was he was in a roomed in a chair and then
Starting point is 02:16:16 he was he was he was he was and when he was he had he had
Starting point is 02:16:20 he started and and to cry and and and and to and you want to
Starting point is 02:16:25 talk about and he said, no, wait a for favor. And he
Starting point is 02:16:32 he said that maybe the more difficult that he could have heard that's
Starting point is 02:16:36 that the lesions were very very and that she was she kept
Starting point is 02:16:46 in coma no so inducid but that And of of the
Starting point is 02:16:52 doctors they said, we're only we're only we're a
Starting point is 02:16:54 one. And he he said he's he and I I'm
Starting point is 02:16:58 to you to and he said that that he
Starting point is 02:17:03 was the moment was the of the pain the
Starting point is 02:17:08 pain was nothing compared to what he felt
Starting point is 02:17:13 emotionally and she was devastated terrible He was a A second
Starting point is 02:17:20 Ayrnated And that Of course is A hospital Yeah A prongue A woman With a baby
Starting point is 02:17:29 And Puff And He was He was He was Heardt And the
Starting point is 02:17:36 Mnott And the And She sentia And it And so And After
Starting point is 02:17:43 After She, Yeah Yeah Yeah I want To I'm
Starting point is 02:17:47 more time there. I don't have nothing to do. Passed one a month more, she'll go to go ahead and she had a much urgency to
Starting point is 02:17:55 get her. So I'm a young who had been a little bit more and she had seen a few and he said
Starting point is 02:18:02 no, wait, I'm just I'm to help to get to the help because he
Starting point is 02:18:07 cost to work obviously in the abdomen to be to put to put to a new He said to her
Starting point is 02:18:20 He said, De Bras, I'm sorry, I'm really, I'm sorry the of the
Starting point is 02:18:27 little bit of the baby. He said that's he went to and he said, he said,
Starting point is 02:18:33 what has done? What did you? Pardon me? Pardon me? I'm, I'm, referia to
Starting point is 02:18:41 my baby. Gavi. No, no, no, no, no, not he was like so.
Starting point is 02:18:46 No was so. My baby Lucia! Lucie! Pardon me.
Starting point is 02:18:52 Pardoname. Talbizue with another expedient, disculpame. No, why did you that? Disculpour me.
Starting point is 02:19:00 It was a confusion. Disculpola me, for favor. And she went. And she again again to derrumbarce. Because in that
Starting point is 02:19:09 moment I recorded some phrases. There are three people in the room. Two women
Starting point is 02:19:18 and a woman. How's the other Chica? Gabi. How Murio? Accident
Starting point is 02:19:27 And it And it's When the people think in the Uiha The first that's
Starting point is 02:19:36 The first Are you guys, Demonios, possessions But not so The Uiha is Peor
Starting point is 02:19:43 That's horrible That horrible I I think I think we're we're with the story more
Starting point is 02:19:55 of the of the story of the first yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's too
Starting point is 02:19:59 really, yeah, it's a really very hard, super-trister, you know, what?
Starting point is 02:20:08 For that I said, at the principle, that, that the more is no, for
Starting point is 02:20:13 any reason, Utilize to use it. Sure. Look, a sacerdote preferred
Starting point is 02:20:20 to be to be to be this woman, passed for that's terrible,
Starting point is 02:20:26 a little, a little a child and many things more. I'm
Starting point is 02:20:31 put in this form. How's stories we have heard of people that are
Starting point is 02:20:35 they're and they have they've heard, that we've said, where the
Starting point is 02:20:44 thing is a thing, and then then you know then you know imagine
Starting point is 02:20:49 that in that in that experience in that curiosity, no that's nothing.
Starting point is 02:20:55 I'm cool for being bad. You say something that in that you know what you're
Starting point is 02:21:03 what you're to do you know, I'm not to talk doors that then you know,
Starting point is 02:21:10 exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, so that's in words. Yes,
Starting point is 02:21:17 no, I think we're going to start this this chapter. My
Starting point is 02:21:22 dearerina Marianita because so, and my cred, Fermix, as we said as we said, more than
Starting point is 02:21:28 a advertency, I think that every one of the stories, every one of the experiences that we've
Starting point is 02:21:32 made that us have that's ever that it seems a simple table inoffensive but if
Starting point is 02:21:41 you sitas to, I'll do with all the respect I know I say that
Starting point is 02:21:45 not said so, to play with a table whica, can pass things
Starting point is 02:21:53 very bad. So, much careful. So, so much care. To speak,
Starting point is 02:22:00 us can you please do you please do you please? My red personal is guembaugh Maria Portillo
Starting point is 02:22:06 and the Redd and the Redd they're they're like Hollywood or Hollywood
Starting point is 02:22:11 or Hollywood official in all the great Firmex much much thanks and I
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Starting point is 02:22:26 A number of the contrary. And I, I'd like, I'd subscribe. If you're not, send a subcrite, a chapter terrorifico, we have a lot and we have some
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Starting point is 02:22:48 respect. We're we're very much time. We're We'll see the next time.
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