INSOMNIO - PSIQUIÁTRICOS- INSOMNIO #22 | Invitado: Fermex

Episode Date: May 23, 2024

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Very good days, tardes or noches. Beenvenous to a new new capitul of in where

narramos the most terrorifices experiences reales of the audience. So,

listen let's tryven. In this occasion, is with us, someone

that is a piece fundamental of my life and my heart, of my

social and I'm about, our friend Femex, how What on, my God, my God, many. Thanks, thanks for the presentation.

Because here we end up and we're happy to start, well, in Insov. Oh, yeah, much thanks, much thanks. Before that, of that we comece us, you know,

you know, in what are your networks and social, and more? Yes, right, I'm working a full, we're trying in, well,

in all the canals of podcasts, no, there, collaborating in what can do and what it's been to do. And my social,

we're on Instagram atrofemex 22. Perfect. Nothing more. Oh, my friend, this,

well, I want to you know, I want to thank you to thank you. First of the stories fantastic.

Yeah, every day they're more. And even we've got a problem with the server that

so you're but we we're going and really much thanks. Let's I'm sure.

If you want to give your stories, your experiences reales, even if are

can mark them as how I write this story do you do you do you

for a coofferob pothcass ranormal com very important if you don't

want to you know that we say we mention us your name when

before before before before add to begin at the

beginning at the final to the name to know we can we can

we can we And the second, very important, if the history, for example, is of duendez, you know, how's it? In the, um, the, the, the title. The title of the correa. The title of the correo.

The issue. In the assuantle, in the assuble, no? History for insomnia, this. Yorone. The yorona, phantasmas, etc. The general, that you consideren that, well,

that's the, that pertains to the history. That is correct. It's correct. It's correct. Much thanks. Also, now just, just, for start.

For favor of like, share your example, of the cemeterios. That's. Yeah, we're for example,

of the morgue. Lugares that a cemetery one, no, no, want to keep to

terminablely, we'll have to do things in some moment. Of the morgue, we're going, we're going to us can't

help us, but there's a place, there's a place where the most cruentas pesadillas

are, we're talking of a place a little the psychiatric

those psychiatricks you have an anecdote of a psychiatric yes no

properly of a of a that had been I was I was I'm

something so I have been about some three years more or more or

less. Fiatte that I live for the zone of Barranca of the Mewrto, if you know, that's a zone of Baranca of the Mewarton. Here in the city of Mexico. There's a colony in specific that's called Merced Gomes. All those

those terrains of the colony Merced Gomes, including the colony as a colony super-chiquita, so are some some of the ones not a colony a great. Uh-huh. Some of the

mancana only, uh, is a peggatida at the preparatory in number eight. At a lot-to-a-o-commercial. and a sportive.

All that part and I tell you know a lot I know much people there I've been many years that I'm

very much I'm talking about the same history that happened to what is what was what that zone

all those those of those those of those those of those things like the psychiatric of the castanera

that's super famous was super famous was very great there were there thererenos

that were thererenos only with the land, that they were only for to come in the people were

there. And the terrain principal that was in the prepa 8 and between the

deportive was where were the installations of the Castaneda. To what I go is to

this, one of three years for a reason, I don't try I'm a caro, so I'm a matter

to get a second the morning to the colony. It's a really, is a summement tranquil,

no, it's like to be to pass a bad or you do something, or you're going to get a lot of the Liga

Maya, uh, to go to go to go to the kind of the the way that's the

way to do to do you go to the way really only solo in the nights no there no,

there are not even chavos or young or playing or talking it's a way

it's a one of the morning and it was a two of the or so, it was at the initials of the time. I'd go to

and I was thinking, no, preoccupied to not, I'm going to get to get a salt or something. No, no, never is out of that. And, of

a quarter, I saw that one was a person and was, and it was a person, it was a man, very delgado, I calculate that

more or more of my stature, was a delgated, had the cabo like, black, he had to I was

I'd and I'd I'm a kind of a kind of a kind of a little bit I'm like a

mannilito black but I'm coming with the hands to back and agached and came about

like like nervous so then so so I'm so I'm two of the morning a person coming

so that the most that I'm that I'm gonna be to that's that I'm to make

my reserves me back to the banquette and I started on where where

the cars. No, no one single car. No, there was no one single person to look at least to back. And, little to go to back, and so, I made a little more, then, yeah, when I was to see, like, like, 10 meters, is because he was going

to the end, and I was about 10 meters to get to the corner where he was about. He was a, he, he was. No see if me saw, because no he could be looking, to where I was going, and heired, and he turned and he he made to the

quadra me tarded you know I'm tired four seconds in to get to get the distance

to where he when I went there absolutely nobody and that and that quadra in

particular is a quadra that has many that has many three houses very

and for that that I'm to get to the first entry to be

not so no no no I'm no no so I'm I'm too I'm Yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, no,

yeah, no-a-na. And many of the people that are living, me they're saying that for the nights, there occasions that

many have seen people with a vat-blank, yeah, so, women, or children, that during the

nights, deambulam, for those streets of the coronas, in the madugas, and much

are, obviously, are the, those, the patients that some sometimes were,

that's another type, other type, but, this, whatever type of abuse. Fiatty, how is the

life, no? I'm going to tell a story. Ah, that has to be just about with what you

have to comment. There's a thing that that I think it's very interesting, how of a different,

so it's very much times. We've passed, well, in a pair of occasions, but the

interesting is that not only only the stories that they're not, like in experiences

that we've lived, in this case, that you've lived with a story that's part of the line that I

have done, in some myths, there's people that have practiced some things spectacular

where a sometimes, I think the I think that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm

that's not not that just that simply that that, well, I'm there I'm there

I'm listening these stories and get a moment in that's part of what one

kind of what one actually. I'm just like to do a preamble. A recopilation. Okay. A recopilation.

This is this story that I'm going to more so on the hospital psychiatric, with the Castaneda. Okay. And something something.

Also, there's this story of the grieta that appears in the chapter of the

places maldito. Uh-huh. And also another story that's a that's entrelaza with that.

That's who are who are the case. So there's people know the history, then the first of

the history, but in the other people are not they're not so they're going to happen that's a make to think

that we're many, but experimenting things very similar. And who know, why,

very very certain. So, so, so, so, so, they're all right

and it doesn't seem possible, so, so it's so, it's too, be the prologue perfect.

So if you're so you'll be a question, I'm going to story? Yes, sure. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. This story

is called, I'm hungry and is anonym. Okay. Fiatte that I felt very personal this story.

Because me has felt like a lot. No, I know, I know to what's debor?

But I I have a problem with the food. So, generally I have hungry and when I'm much. I know,

I know, I know. Yeah, I know. But, I'm flakito, but I'm much.

I think I'm a bad alimentation. That's the problem. So, I have to have a better alimentation.

But, well, from the title, I'm, I'm really the attention. This person,

the manner anonymous, we, We said that he, he worked during much time, as a farmer in a hospital psychiatric, of the city of Orisava. Okay. This,

uh, we know, that's, he said that, he said, he said, he said that the conditions of this place

were in his words, deplorables. So, he was very fair. All right was, so he was, uh, there was an attention

to the patients, the, the people, Pessima, that rallia even, well, the illegal,

you know, it was, it was a feo. He's said that one also has to understand

that not that the people that are working there are that are not as not,

but it is difficult to treat with these people, and there was

a high saturation of patients in this place. So it does it.

What was obligable to those mixed in the habitations like in

a prison the problem was that many of these people not they're

not partied in the same type of or they were people

to be in a room in a place that it was so it could be

in a room there there people that had there

in the same in the same in the people who were being being

Consterno obsessive, compulsive, but they're convivating in the same abitation. So, well, well, so obviously for them, as a firmero, the personnel medical, were very difficult to try to these people and get them to the point of the

desperation. In a moment, it's a patient, the which is diagnosticated with an infirmat that's called hiperfagia. Okay. Here we have an adaptation.

The hyperfagia is a term that's a an normal and excessive of the appetite or of the ingest of the food. It's characterized by an intense sensation of the ambe that

can't get to a ingestion discontrolated of food, more than the necessities physiologics of of an organism.

This patient, you're getting what was your extra-infermeda said that from, he said, he had an attitude

so, a supplica. When a the of the farmer's he said I'm

I'm I'm I'm sorry I'm she's and he's never and

well obviously they're to try the name of this patient was

he was when they'd they're when they didn't eat not

he was like she like an animal ambrient

devor the food and terminated the mia the

I was those they was like limp in various occasions there were discussions

that came to the gulpes in the area of the commedor because if they'd discuidavable in a moment he'd roba the food to other patients

and then then well commenced there some problems that with the time they took to take the decision although they were

saturated to to isolate to Mauricio for that not the other patients because at the moment of

to eat the of the patient that patient that patient that he was not going to

eat that so for to be able to be violent it's been

they're they're they're they're he in various occasions Mauricio

when I was when I was when not were at the time of the

food I had like many things with with

so so he had so he had many

things with the to be able to have more food. It was like if his stomog not had a

top. Comeer, come, come, come, to have to eat, but

that was part of the problem that he had a Mauricio. In a moment, as a

situation, isolable to Marisio before that any that any any kind of out of

the kitchen Mariusio was isolated. When all the people had to come and

Mauricio, in a manner isolated, he had had been all the plattillos, soltable

to make to make a lot terrible. Of course, they were a little, a gritty,

a gritty a lot, cori were to see what was going, and Marisio had mordied

a brazo to one of the patients. He had had ranced a pedas, who, he was

masticating. The The patient gritted of the when they were when they

they were just to see, and he said, I'm I'm hungry. Now

they're to isolate more time. Yeah, you're in the other. Yeah,

it was dangerous. And so then, well, isolate it was, it's not

the best option. So, they were to give the medications to

to maintain it cedado with that's calmer and not he had a

whole hour he's he was maybe he'd he'd he was he was

he was not even no maorice of the but the but the

ambris and he he's he's sometimes he took about those are times are

all the turn of the day a a time a time to the

time of the time of the night and it was precisely a night in the

that was doing his rondas for the habitations bursiorand of that the patients

were not dormied to their their no, that not had been not far of the

common, not that was the turn nocturn and so it was when all of

all was in total tranquillity and again began to hear some

grits some grits horrible but this this one of a little different. He said that the grito was more

intense. Puss on alert to all of allots. The people started to gritty, the patients started to gritty, and of a sudden this the grito, this goto. But

he and other other infermeros were running to the front of the sonya. Entrara to a house that was at the front of the the door was the light

was apated the they're and they're and they saw impression those

he was he was one of the patients obviously not he got to the

body but in this occasion the mordida had been the

guillar and he had had rancaed a bad oh that

for that the grito so the Because the patient He was Because the patient And he

He was He continued Mastikando In a charco of the Sanger At his side of the

body Yeah, without With a rictus of a Horrible They were They're

They're He was He was Mastikando And And he He was He was

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm Oh, that then.

After this event, the hospital was a rann. And we said the when this finalized

his courier. Mauricio enfrented a process legal for homicide. Ironically,

because his condition mental, only was transferred to other hospital psychiatric

with more security. A a lot of the stories real are pears,

no? Here what what is what is like a preoccupant is that if yeah it's very probable

that in a miscuit and if no has the food that's it will be to be able to

do that and probably with a patient with a doctor a doctor an doctor imagine

what is what is what is what is what is that I don't know I know know the

conditions of an hospital psychiatric and how is that can't isolate

to but you think you can't isolate definitively the world so you're feo but

yeah probo the human and if he he's he's you know

a a medium more of where you yeah there a pass more

to do something yeah yeah that that feo that feo uh

uh no you know you don't you know this story that I'm

a little bit more suavisita for that's bag in the nerves of the that you can't see

this story is called the patient no last he's he's he's

he's he's he's my name is the doctor Juan Antonio Pedrasa

and I want to this that me happened this this so he

he said he says in the years in the years 80s okay he he's

in the area of psychiatry in the university national Autonom of Mexico

He graduated here in the city But, So, his family, his friends, all his life, really was in the city of Oaxaca. So, one

once terminated and titulado, decided to to gohack, to be with his family and then it. Standing there, he,

he's going to work a little to work, obviously, in his area, in what he does he

do that. It has much time in encounter this work, but he found, for fin,

a vacant in an hospital a small, a hospital a psychiatric particular in the city of Waxaca

so yeah he's to do his trammity and he's to get his documents, and for finally after

after a long process he's kind of the post attending patients. So this

this is the first day of the time that's he goes to and he he presents

with his he with the family and the and they assigns his officeina

he gets to be the officeina all well, it says, well, it's like, it's been

to be able to have been to keep to keep to come to do your books, and he's, he's, everything he

required for the attention of his patients. In this, it's been a time, it's done to be being done,

he's been, he's done, the telephone. He has a reference to is a telephone of these people,

you know, of those that were a diskit to mark. Ah, okay, yes, yeah,

so, you, did you, Pardonabst a lot? Yes. Avented to the CERD and after back back. So, it's.

Empeas to sonar the telephone, to sonar the telephone, contest, and he's what he suppose is the voice of the receptionist that still

not even was familiarized with the voices of the other people. And he says, Dr. Goodsardes.

I have your first patient. It's possible that he's possible that he's possible that he's possible that he's that's possible

that's all in order. For favor to do it. Seconds after, So, it's heard that gyrn the consultory

and a voice of a person and a woman he says, Doctor, goodnestardes, I can't pass?

Sure, for the course, aelante, pass. Pass. He describes that a woman,

more or about an 80 years, la be a bit bit and he bad, she'll be

bad, he says he'd be a seat, and then he starts the first the first,

the rutina, her name, his age, he asked if in some moment she had been attended in this hospital.

And she said that she, but that had been attended other medical, but in this occasion

they've been assigned to him. Well, then he has made all the data,

and the she says that she she has she has she has things negative

all the time. It's for that they have the consults. She

he, he confisa that is victim of maltreatment for part of his children. It's victim of

my own and he's a question, well, but you know, he's come to someone or so, today he's, yes, my

children, de-cho me brought here, me they're taking here, in what that's my consult, they went to do other things, okay?

He's got to the consulta and then, you repita, he starts to say the lady, that during much time

has been to all kind of abuse by your family, but of all type. And she

she has to have a negative. She's she wants to basically desacety to do you see to

see their their life. And so they get more or less a hour, hour and maybe

more or less about us talk about the consult. He said that he will recetar between

some other other things, some some other other so that she could

be able to she she could that she not, that at final, no, that he's

if she want to give me the recet well, so, is part of the

consult, but I'm going to go to take. Oral. So, he says, well, I'm going to

do that way, I'm going to talk to some his children. And he says, it's that is possible. He commented

that they me left here, and no I think they're that they come back. Okay.

He extends the recipe, he's and she's I'm doing to her when she has a

man, he is a sumamente he, that part of the man frie a man sudada is for the nervosism that is living the patient in this moment

or for what is that recording, not, all that is going to do you know, and that's always, it's a lot of a lot of,

thence. Well, in fin, he does the recet of it, and, then, he's got the the time. 10 minutes

more time, they're going to talk the door. And he grita, and he grita, and they're going to the door, Ligeramente, and it's a

man, and he said, Doctor, very good good, I'm present, I'm the president of the hospital, otherwise to

occupy me of the labors of the limpeas, also to do get to some of the things here, the light, etc.

Entra with a maletita and say, ah, well, for favor, all right, right, I say I did

the labors of the thing, but then if you want to do you want, but if me want,

look, I'm specifically to connect your telephone, Doctor. and to connect my telephone my telephone is and Juan Sagachia

under the screen he says, doctor, his telephone no is connected to nothing. Ayer tend we the extension

from where he has to come to the car haute of the telephone not connected. No, what?

No, that's not connected to nothing. The telephone no was the phone no was

possible. I said, I was possible. I was going to have to an call after

a hour and media and he said, Doctor, you're very bromist, me care well, but the telephone doesn't. So he's he's a, he's

a lot, he spanta and he he's making the proper and he he's going to direct to the office of his new he's, and he

starts to say, hey, look, he went, a person, he went a senior, let me listen, I, I did consulta,

platique with her practically an hour and and media, and me they're saying that the telephone

no serve when the entered this telephone. So, also, the attitude of the woman was a kind of a little

extrana. His head he said, well, tomaste the data the data of the general of the

general of the person, you can't do you, do it, he's, he's got to his head,

he's a little, and he's to get to the chief, no? Is it, is,

is sure, that is the number of the person? Yes, for and then he's to look

between the expedients he says, he says, this expedient that I'm here, corresponded

also to this person that you attended. And he, he, he, he attended

two times, we've done two expedients. No. This person came out of here, here,

after various years. I'm a person yeah major with these characteristics, if effectively.

So, this she's she was the time her time their children,

pagored the quotas always but never they were to be there she abandoned her

practically in this hospital. In effect the she was victim of abuses

by part of her family and the she died and the hospital. No

is possible that you have attended. He terminated with a reflection

and I don't know how it's possible that I have done a person that's a person that's a year of having seen

his problems has heard his experiences maybe what I'm what I'm being a

last time what what I'm what you did yeah his first day he

it was that was that's entering he's he was that was that

was that that person that DOORO, yeah. No, that Dura and what Feeo, well, at final the she went to

abandoning, for How many? How many? How many people? She went with the sentiment of abandono and with that odio that

he made to know he that he had over his family. That's a Dolour, no? Well, Odie and

because... Abusable of her and then they'd they'd be there And then they Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, it's horrible, I see, it's horrible. Horrible. Oh, yeah, In fact that, well, more

a little one story that I'm going to tell you, there's a situation similar of the yeah,

yeah, but, whew, no, man, we're just to be the of the

paranoia, of the fear. Okay. And the the same story, which is

just what I said with the prologue that of the story that you know,

the story is called, Mirella Olgin. Okay. Uff. You mentioned the preparatory number eight, right?

That is. That's. It's. It's. It's. It's. Look, how it

I've got too. You live in a place that practically is a few of this

preparatory number eight. Yes. The place where I live, I know that I

know that the place where I live was part of the terrains in

the Castania. The Castaena, of the hospital, sick and then. And now is there the preparatory number eight. Ah, so there are various,

it's that are very, very, very large. It was very, very, very, that the officeina anterior of

the podcast paranormal in Merida, you know, in front of what preparatory was there? No. The preparatory

number eight. The very. See, that's rarrow. And the new officeina of podcast paranormal is

front of a cemetery. Oh, yeah, I think, I said, that's, I said, that's not

a casualty. No, just a casuality. But well, we know, our friend Mireya, that after five years, she conclude her preparatory,

but the history that we're just before the terminated the preparatory. She was studying there in the preparatory number 8, that is the next to the metro, Barranca of the Mewart. All this is here in the

city of Mexico, the Republic Mexican. She was in the turn of the the time. It's said that practically she'd

get to about at the two, more or and I'm at the night so yeah very late.

But well that's what that's what he had talked. And also you said the school

was, imagine it, and not it's all the terrain of this place, but the school

was super super, super great. He said in this school there was

gymnasio, alberca, canchas, various edifices that alberg in the albergab in the

halls and as a place very very great, there were various

banos. There were various banos. So, well, she was there's

there and the story that we're a story that starts a night, almost at

point to finalize the classes, they're there, then we, taking to the

last class, and we say, that the person, then the time,

and she's, she, and she, after to go to his house,

pass to the well, I've been all the time, I'm going to their

necessities, and then he was in his own to go to not, not to not be

going to the way. So, then he to get to the light's there's

there's but it's this ambient of, there's no,

there, but I'm no, I'm like, like, as I'm like,

you know, like, you're like, so, so, so, so,

and then, she He said, hello, there's a little there's a new

response. So, to do do not to make to make that in very

for their because he was to be in the bayon, he was so I'm down to

the cubicles and there no, then I entered to the room

and just he was sat, he had sent out when he's a gemido

rare kind of of the of the do of But,

but she does know that that's that the one of the

cubicles that is a little of the of her. And she kept thinking

and she no manches so, but I just I've got to to revisit.

No? So, so it and he's and it's like,

like let me and he was a little nervous and thought to

someone after me and I didn't to be to be to the cubicle,

well, then he he was going to and he was going to get to do you,

so so much he said, he said, he's you know, you need, you know,

a new response. So, so he was going to be to be down

of the cubicle. And there there, or something that

when it when it is down of the cubicle, be like

some the little some these but are some the shoes were the

long as sucied like garras with the points marrientas negras

horrible and these these feet to can the and she all

he said he said he he said he could even a little like the

black amarriient a sucia but it was a little a But of the susto,

he pared, and he went and he went and then. After with the time, he thought, well,

no, so it was an event, something, something, and what was there, and I

wanted to remember it, passed some days, a week, a month. I was again in the

school, final of classes, termina, and, and, and, decided

to go to go to the first of to go to his house, no?

In the the way to go to passio, which is a passio is a long,

before to get to get to the and then there there is something,

there is a moment. And in that moment be to cross by the passillo

to a woman. But this woman not see yeah not was a

a maestra, or a student. The woman was made with a woman, like a batta black,

amarigient. The woman was a sucia. Caminaba with the feet descalsos

in a way very strange. Camino like without without to look

to the passio and went to the baio of women

a little bit of she I went and he said I don't I'm going to I'm not so I'm

but but you see that he didn't think he he was a phantom or something

but what he said was that was that was he had meted a person in situation

of the school and he was he was occupied the

because while the people not the time in the area in the is to have been to the school.

So, as well, he got to the bathroom, he did the world, and he went rapidly, until he saw one of the master's that he said to be a master, oh, he,

I said, oh, he passed to this. How? See, I saw a woman, like in a situation of the street and a batta black,

sucia, the feet, descalos, was totally sucia, the pillow, very feo, so, but is, is,

is, there in the the manor said, well, show me. They said, she's

she's she's in, she's not I'm not there said the master, but wait,

he's a cell phone and he a marce a master. Okay, for the could

enter. And he said, vent to come to back, but that's to call

a security. Lega to the master? What's is that? Is that, she

saw, she saw, she a, she a, a person, a a woman.

Extrana. In a situation of the call. And it's a little of the bathroom.

Really? Yeah. And the master is like a good-dus. And he said to

her. A-huh. Come. I'm. I think that was like to enter

solo. So, or what that's, well, so, no. So,

entered, they're, they're they're they're and they were to be

nobody. And I see that it was so like, I swear that I'm saying, and this master said, you know, you know, I'm going to tell something. This terrain, where is built

the school and a company commercial adjacente, were part of an hospital psychiatric, the Castaneda. Incluso, he said that

a carly detainee behind the school, there's a colladera with the markers and the number of the hospital. So,

he was telling this story, obviously not in the bathroom, there was a there was a gardener and there and there was

a, a, where you can't sitar various people, a bank, they were there satas,

the master and was talking this situation, when of when of when they didn't

they were a bigada and a mirab and they were only

in the school. So, they were in a moment in silence and they were and they were, and they were

that one of the gardeneras was out of a woman. This woman had the hair had the

hair soceo and marallad. It was very long. Caminaba sustaining something in his hands.

They like they were like they're what they're doing. That horror. But

But they were aterradas congelas. Like, no reactioned what they were doing to do?

And this woman in the obscurity with the arms, he was

going to and and and it was he could even see

see the face between the the time and

I'm and so that he put a one to

the the she sat and in that moment she saw what she had in

the her was a a a baby when he when he

he said that he felt that the heart he was he was he

he was he was the and this woman was smiling with

his dents so and negrecisied. And as as he was he was seeing,

he was a rist that he said that he's not I'm never. In that

moment they were reactioning without. Without saying nothing, he said

that never had been that had been so hard.

Corriar to after to get to the school. Dechch

They've got from the school and crossed the street and the road of the power of what they were

to presential. All this obviously caused revuel. Much revuel and so all in

she said that was something terrible terrible. But he gave much curiosity

so. So, he started to do your own investigation and

us this. Discovered that the patients that one a bit of

the hospital of the castaneda vivian and conditions deporables many were born

in the other. Others were lastimated with chockes electric

some them were they were infections and because other

simply were maltratated for pleasure even there there

there there many there was many the result

in the the nacement of babies in the hospital Oh, that's

it's a bit of in the real real infirno from then never never more

I've been this tetrico no no no that's that's

that what that no no yeah what yeah

what yeah no no no no no fiat

that in some I don't see you had to I

of photography and history of the Castaneda. Higoles, the photos expuces, if you have much imagination, you know,

you can't imagine the environment, the suffering, the eyes of the people so totally going to

go to a lot. There's a photo that me impression much, that I've seen in

internet and I see in the exposition. It's a chico morano

alto is he has been has been a deformity in the craneo like a

rarro but it's like a rapado and he and he he's like a kind of

a kind of really if they they're really if they're they're so

so of you know with you see you there it's like a kind of a

kind of a type of titerre no so so so

No, I want to I want to the respect with what I think the in the locura in the physicalibri

in his eyes, in the manner in the way that the moment of the photo captured all

that's essence of the moment that he was living. And the history that's that's

there's a story there's impactant. You can find just just to gogular

like photos the castaneda it's a photo, you know I'm going to be yeah

yeah yeah is well, a see, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very profound, eh, of the actually,

uh, but, I mean I'm so, these things, in a

occasion for, for the account, so, so, so, so,

I've made, a question, uh, and, the year, how it

put you to, where it's to do day of day of the day of

the the city, because this issue was dismanted pied

per and it monted, me it's in Quirnavaca to a person that paid,

so when yeah, he was a little bit and said, I'm going to the little bit more

I'm here, but no I'm here, I'm doing it because the actually in the exposition it's a

and they're to get a republic to that they to go back to get to somebody that he's

what he that's that's a barbarity. Also, that's a lotcura. No, no, no

Those photos, I'll look them for there and the photos are only the real that's talk to tell us

in a story. See, this story is called Dole and we and we let us

envia Martha Gonzales. There's a noteation that we put at the

principle, that's very interesting says this story is supermating

and I'd like to you or your invite me could

say if this has this has a He has a personal in an hospital

psychiatric in the city of Morelge. We're talking that here there are all type of patients with all type of the people.

How you've said a rata? From a person with schizophrenia to patients with depression severe, etc.

The environment she has talked that more to give more than a sensation of, because of

a stress for, for, to be to see a patient in that situation

so deplorable. Here, no we don't talk of an hospital with a bad

conditions. Simply the the environment as a environment is an place, it's an ambient

that's a person, nobody want to live. She she says that,

well, that time, in the hospital started with a problem

with a heart a a lot a common, because no supri

not even migraina, or of any other pain of the case, but, it was very very strong the pain, the pain's in the

hospital, he's going to his house, terminus a turn, he gets so can't get that can't that the

time to come a lot, but no, it's a lot, and then, then, then, to see this

terminated, not say, if it's a the She's a pain She's a little bit of a pain in her own a pesadilla. She's trying to have a pesadier. She's in a Sheweree to a sleeper or a pesadilla. And, de-rength, the re-oho, see how a little bit, like,

rapid, into the dream. Yes, yeah, and she and she'll and she'll

and he's not so it's not so I'm going to so I'm so it and it

and it and what you see is a one of the patient that not he the car

the back and the head so and the head so

and she and she she's she's you're you're you're and

The patient says, dole, dole, dole. And in the moment that is doing this, the patient's a garra the head and she'll see how they're to gousana. Oh, no manches. They're going to carry guzzanos to the ombro.

Look, even, I'm chained the skin. They're going to car gusanos to the ombro. She describes that they were gusanos very particular. They're gusansans, very gonditos. That's cool.

Like, as if they were into their hair. And in that moment you, regress of the dream, he's

and be that are the three of the morning. Uff, it's so super oversaulted and then

it's an a peser and so you can't be a quiet, pass in some hours

after that he will be to concili the and he says it's

that I'm that even that was that hour yeah was even

but even the pain the Doormen the hours that that can't to sleep At the day

the day the next then you forget of the way of the year she's

prepare to do his work and see a various companions

that are like from some area like you know about

something that happened something that she she does

those good days and they say what what

that see that he said what happened something

very rare. Well, no, not rar, but if we just knew a little of a little of fear. During the night, they're not a patient new. It came to translade of other unit psychiatric. Here, the rare is that a patient

they'd try them with with a commissue of force. Because he waspresent, like violent, like, she wasotable too, like, eventable to the people, to the infermeros. So, they'd put in the camis, because not... For protection of all. Yes, for protection

inclusive, of her myself, no? That's not. That's not. I'm not. I'm not for to do not be she has talked about that in this hospital and me imagine that there are areas

where they are there's where they're not much more dangerous than the other than then to this

patient let them to an area of isolation where only the door has a little

a little rejita above where they passan the food and where they come

to be that the patient is well stay well. So, well, that's what is what you called the attention during the

night, no? That, that saw it, and the alboroto that was the, uh, yeah, the patients, when they saw, they were, assotando, so they were, they were also to agorotting, and it was an alborotto total in the

night. Chispas. So, then she said, well, well, well, who can't do, she can't do some labors, and begins to clean for all the areas, and that time, just the time, is trapeying

by the area where are the patients isolated. She said what was the habitation where was this person.

So, there's he said, me got a more the curiosity than the and I'm just for curiosity

to see to this patient new that had yet. He gets the door and it's a soma

for the regita. And what describes is that the patient was inca'd with the cabell

revuel. Revuel. aghachada, but incada with her camisa of force. Only was inked moving. She's spanta. When the patient

see the presence of her, voltae, and she's he kept being. Initially, it said that obviously

he gave fear, because the mirabre because the mind was enlokeated. In that moment, the patient is a way, and he

says, dole, dole, Dole. She's a sombre because in that moment he gave a flash of the dream that took the night

anterior, of the pesadilla that took. The patient is incorporated, he takes forces, and she goes to go with

all the force that had under the but with the head. No, man. She'd be and straying the

head in the door of metal, rebota and obviously there's made to get, dismayed to the patient.

She has in panic, enter in shock, and the first what does, is to goer, to go and

to one of the doctors what had succeeded. Confiesa that he got a curiosity that's assomed and

he's not to a certain point of what happened. They're the doctor, they're they're a

little bit, they're they're that the thing was a not a curation any curation

that. So, they've got to be to be to the area corresponding

to cocerer to curate to cure her the but to do this as a

great one of the doctors a cargo decided to make a tomography

decided to make a lot and do you how far how was the

great that that that that that but in this

in this revision extra that they did one of the

doctors discover that this person he had had

a and a question and a question had a

gus was in the head there's a there's a a good there's a

a good that's a car of the carne of the cisterco is that in the carne of the cerdo

so is in the in the in the in the carnita so there

so his casita his his his his when you when you

come is you come's the malcosida if you the the

the serdo has been infected has been infected with this guus when

you to you that guzano anida into you. And it's very common that the guzzano so the guzzan who those guisans

are going to move into your and no know why but eligen many times get to the cerebr.

So they're going eating? No, no, they're going only they're only they. But, but obviously

you're going to let me learn this part. No, well. The cirthices causes can provoke

symptoms varied, depending of the localization and the quantity of cystic sercos in the body, and can include

dolores of the head, like the yeah had. Dolores of the

publicions, problems of the vision, and other symptoms neurological if it's that the

larvas are in the system nervios central. Obviously, the patient yeah with

this diagnostic, is translated to other unit. Yeah, no he correspond to

be there because they had to attender the emergency because she investigated the story with one of the medics and he he talked to what had passed and he he told all this of the diagnostic and he

said that the woman had the brain practically invaded of larvas. It's for that he'dolia. So, she finalized saying, I've got many questions, but one of of the tantas is

how is that this woman, entro in my dream for, to some to get help?

How was it was that was that I started to get a symptoms of a lot? A

part of it never never to have a bad that I'm that you had a time that he

had that was really very strong, very aggressive. For that's that's that much. And,

without, no, no, I don't know because she had had been, just when

the patient He went while she was in her while she was in the

case. So, the patient was going to get to the psychiatric. To the

morning next to when you get is when she is when he's

when she asked from the initial if if we had

some idea a idea, a because evident the

woman not a person was a not a patient

how is that something was something was something

was paranormal to moment of that this woman entered in his, in his dreams, in his pesedias,

and this she was to have to have the curiosity to be her, to be able to find her and to

what she's a need to to, to be to be able to be a lot of

the head, that was that energy was present very potent and she how is

the name the story? she is a Marta Gonzales Marta is a person tremendously sensible

or even I could say that even has a don or the third o'clock like to

perceive no yeah a canalization not is obligatory of persons transcendid

okay acuade that for example the mediums the mediums in this where the mediumity,

between other things, there are detectives, police, organisms governmental, et cetera, that's that are at

these people to be able to localize to a person disappeared. Not necessarily that has

been a person disappeared. And not they don't like to do it, because what when all

canalize they're the angustia, the the honor of these people. What is

living, what he is doing. Exactly. So, in this case, this

living something terrible. So, has got us to get us in the head. Oh, that horror. I when

I was to learn and I came to the part of, well, from the pasty that took,

where this woman of the back and she starts to get to get to get to

gusons in the shoulders. Uff. Oh, I didn't that would be going to

be very but it's goodyce and me and it is that that she has that

kind of like don, don, yeah, has a done, has that sensibility, and for

so could well, to help her. At final, we say that never more never more to know,

he never to say, he's not, he went to that he said, he was there, or what final he was,

probably like the quitted the busanos, he didn't the dolores, and for that, well, yeah.

Oh, oh,ala. Oh, and, and, fiat, the more sure is that, uh,

all that that desperation and locura that was occasioned for the gusanos not because

properly took a disorder mental sure sure wow uff

okay let's enter we're in the terrain of the turvue the

next the next the hallucinations and is anonym okay the person

that person that this story us comment that he talked

during much time in a hospital not not

was not was a not a unfermerer, he was a work in the area

of the area of and and from the work, the obvious, was to

prepare the the dinner and that other people were to get to go to

go to and it's that this place in the hospital psychiatric was an

hospital psychiatric private and there was good conditions for the

patients that there were or less he was 10 years working there. And for the

time that he had a very good relationship with a very good of security doctors of security doctors,

etc. No? He was going to all the people and they'd and he was going to

and it was going to occur here. It's that the last three years that was in this

hospital of a repent they're to happen to happen that

again imagineate of yeah you've seven years working and no happened

nothing. It was a thing. It was a whole, not? Doing doing to

eat everything. It's when interned when he a new patient

a recent a recent ingress. A man young like of 40 years.

The family said that this person had been been diagnosed with

anxiety and depression. For this reason they're decided to

interned for that could have an excellent recuperation, an attention medical

24 hours for that you could get to this quadro of a great anxiety

and depression but talking with a medical he said the the truth

is that is that not the family is disis of a

problem he he was they did here Paghan the quotas

Mensuales Never They've been to visit Simply They've been They've been Like if no It's not

It's like Every other It's common And as a Hospital Psychiatric or Private There are

families That's Simply They just They're They're They're They're

They're They're They're That's What has to Have to Have to Yeah

more or less three months this man there when he ingressado when of a

repented he started to have some some the night grittable

he was over the and he had to the and he was a

face a body horrible he had to get to

calm it and to get to the abitation,

for that reactionara and will be to lastimars the body. But he's that

that's event rarro commenced to be more constant in this

patient. Of actually, it not only occurred during the nights,

a sometimes also it was during the day. The grits

well, were yeah day and night of this patient. grittando,

assotandos, arraigning espantos. Desafortunately, at the little time of the time of the

events, the patient fellaceo and is something. Only amaneced he's

he's he was, and the day the next he's not made so,

then well, So, well, also, it was going to occur here. So, he did he

did he did so he's rare this event. Because when a medical,

a friend he said, he said, hey, he said, he said, he said,

look, you know, he said to say something, but here, we're not,

so, yes, this patient, before to fallece he,

he He told some things raras for to say a

quote me me he said that in the nights

was he was a demon that he was he was he

he of a repent he felt like if started

to the room in his abey the eyes

and the room was more fria and more oscura that usually

would be and he he was he was to feel a fear of and he'd be there

a second there were an end of the room and agon and agudized his

view and he a a little a animal enormous with a curno

retorss a A person with six brasos garras enormous

and they were going to get to but he was going to be and he was and he was he was a little bit

was a little bit was a little bit of form in some hands, he had four dead, in other seven.

And so, with the whole of the whole, he was to be to be

to make to be able to be to get to be and this entity what I

wanted is that he would to consume it. But

a he said the medical. That no is certain. I saw

he he was he was a person was alucinand

and I knew a demon horrible. His fears. His fears. But it

was he the that he was the and why he felles that. That's

so I can't explain. They were an autopsia for why they died.

But to the familyaries also like they were so they had

desech now so they're diseched about them the

body, not those they're to be. Two months after

a new patient. One, that with the time he was to have the same

symptoms. Alucinations. During the nights grittable horribly and was

a raeable the body, it was to that

was and and the the they had been given to the patient that's arragniava, he vendered the banded hands for that not to lastimara. This What? That in the nights

I hear a something something something that's like a

little a like a unytas like and the eyes

and the room is too a friar some those eyes

rogos that comes to to start to the demon

with the cueros no He says that is a Cucarachas What's What's

What's the Pothits of Milles of Cucaraches And when He comes to come To come to your Cucarachas And he begins to Gretarer

Kitten me of Ones de Ones de But it's only Your Imagination The Abitation The Abitation There's

Insects. I know what I said. You know, what happened with that patient? Falleceo.

Diagnostico? Paro Cardiac during the madrogate. U. He's that he

intrigued for this that was occurring curiously, he saw the body

that the face of this man was a mueka of fear.

He he saw know that person felles for a paro cardiac

a paro cardiac for so much that he had been for what he had

seen to that he was that he had had fallen obviously in the

hospital they started to have to be rumors stories

of the a little legend there. I said, I never never saw

nothing any of no, no, no, no, nothing. Only these

two patients, these two patients that are these stories strange. Of

a repent, passed a half year, and you have been about this thing.

Yeah no had been to pass. It was it had

never had a new patient, a woman of 60 years was a woman of 60 years, and she was to show the same

symptoms. He begins to gritty during the nights, and at the morning next, his body

was a lastimated. She was had a anaed. Like the other.

But this was more grave. In one occasion, Fereau that were done

those were done with his own own that had to have to get to the

surgery. Literally, literally, it had rancated to the car. To

avoid that to get a more with this patient, he put

a capista of a but his symptoms went

in the amount, gritos in the night, gritos in

the day. Kitten me It's a demon, helpen me. The Pesadilla

had regressed to the hospital. This woman fellacy and occurred something and was very interesting.

For a change of the new the hospital was was transferred and

he went a new doctor to be the new director of the hospital Okay.

This new doctor He says about these cases and the doctor young, is called, to be able to him, he comments

about what he had passed, and this doctor commenced to investigate, pida the expedientes, and he's to analyze those,

and discover something something the patient had been medicated in manner

incorrect. A medicine that was caused hallucinations horrible. They were

consuming medications that not they were they were and they were

they were they were that the culpably were two and the anterior

director general of the hospital the he had been

this this news, Fermex, salemed in a little rinkon of the diaries, something something that was sonned.

But, why they were causing these hallucinations in these people? It was a

red of traffic of organs. U. It's been involved the director, a doctor

more, and two other and two and they were medications to the

patients for that had these horrible hallucinations and were

they were patients old they were to to reclimate to reclam nothing

then then after they they were they they were they were

they're there no there no there these people

were arrested and the hospital had to have had

to his POMCHES That's That's That's very That's very Canyl

Ferry What's What's What's That's That's For the Oh

And for the Fault of the Fault of Tension of You I mean you You know,

you You know That's That's the family not to you And the

They're They're They To end to You're You It's in the hands of

people like this that, that's there's there's many people in many amy from

literal, with the body, not, of patients, of persons. Well, is that,

like, so, not, those are, they're in a way horrible, horrible.

Yeah, it's very impressive at this story. Yes, very impressive. Yes, yeah,

because, no, no, no, I don't see. It's a crime terrible. Terrible. Poorest people, yeah.

Yeah, it's horrible. And also, how, some, we can't confunders with situations paranormal. And,

and they're not the reality is a better. Much more. In this case, they're provoked absolutely everything

all, to justificing the moment in the moment in the that they're imagine to murder.

Oh, no, that of the cucarachas, Oh, or to hear the

I'm oh, bro the those insects me are much and then you know

that you see you see your your body invadied for oh

or so so is just justifiable the the paro cardiac no

the terror you or what you think you or what they're in this

in your in your in your well this this come me

because you have one I've never been I've never been I'm never a when it's much hot

in these times that's a much hot well you know you know you that you know that there's a

that's like no there's a car but no it can't get any of food so nothing

yeah yeah you have to be to be in the because so

they're in the churachas and I've been I've been

I've so because I'm I'm literal. I know that's all the lucura I'm going to be

a carche to come down in the manches. You know, I'm sure. I'm just your

your your your head like that kind of that's part because I'm I'm still

I'm still I'm sorry I'm a cockroach I'm playing the light and there's you know

I'm sure or well at the well at the salas no oh no no no

no no I mean that I'm so I'm I'm really I'm sorry I'm a I was

coming precisely for the because I have many years for there where I'm where the

hospital of the Castaneda and it was a time of a much, much color

but it was like now that had been a lot of some so much and it was in the

night and I was coming and then so one two quadras before

the the way there are many many there there many much

and I started to my and I started and just to open. But no those I met her

and I'm not there I'm at the hand by the cellular, and I'm to make the to the

to make to see the the keys to get the I'm the lampa the cellular me

I'm I'm I'm I'm when I'm down the light of the lampa to I'm

was tapisado Feppo the The piece, tapisado, the piece of the street, to do you do not

I'm sure, I'm not when I'm what I'm were doing, if they were some cuckarachas of those

enormous, that were going to the colladers. No, manches. When I when I was saw,

I was in the feet, I'm I'm a back, and I was over and I didn't even

I fission if a car or or something I did a sensation that horrible, you know I'll humbred so

so there's no there no you know you're an enhambre there of cockroaches

horrible of those grandotas camines I'm there's but I had the

sensation before to enter to my house I I'm I'm

I'm I I'm I'm the I'm the mochila I

had the sensation that that one had a that was a logical that

was I unfortunately I think no But the I think I think

It's a It's a Apes of a Wondy Various I'm in the road in the

mind and I'm in the night and the day and I was even being there's still there

I'm going looking the I'm looking the cellar and I go to and if you do a

bad much anxiety me do that I'm a lot of many times I'm I'm

I'm gonna I'm I'm a pego You're you're a lot for all

a people? A see. I mean, I know, I know that not all the other places is equal. I know. It's more, neither I'll say

the number of, because, I mean, I'm a one of the and it was a lot of a place in a place.

Yeah, I'm a lot of a place. I'm not I'm a sweet, no, no,

I'm, if I don't know, in where he's not, I'm, I'm, the real.

So, me they say, oh, this, that we we try we're like a

very common in merida that's some carritos that they don't see, I'm

me, I'm it's of not, it's of not not they're not I'm not

I'm don't know it has a much time I'm a agency of so

then there there's there's there models edacannes um jios

animators etc and and a period and a yeah of Merida

had a botarga that they'd have been so events of of all the type so I've I've got officially a botarga

so not not they're not they're so simply me they're this month so they're

so they're all those these events and I just simply I'd I'm a a little

a boy so like the doctor simi not like and then and then it was and it was

a lotit and you're not even there were to be able was a very been paid and I

was very well to the botarga. In one occasion they did a promotion to the commercials that if they announced they were, they sent down to the botarga. For example, if you have been a new local like a panadier,

then the botarga is there to be there to be a lot. We're in, yeah, much good, so blah, blah. You've been the panaderia and it's a little bit, but then no you see the horns, no best the part of the at last. And, well, yeah, for this is the botarga and

and, et cetera, for that's the people, and so, and so, yeah, so, yeah,

there's a whole, yeah, it was, yeah, I was, I was, I was,

I was, about, 15 minutes for the turn, and me said, the only person that

was the other, you know, you're going to go, and I'm, and I'm,

I said, well, so, so, what curiosity, I, I, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, so, So, then I went And there were the messes that have in the pan

So, like, with the pan, that's the ballita that's the ballita of fresh. And me said, let's, we said,

these, this, here's put this, the charolas of metal, that are so, like, like,

they're going to, all that role, no? And I was I was looking, you know, you're going, you're going

nothing rare, and no you know, is nothing rare. And, of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a construction of cement, in middle of a grand space where was all the pan.

I said, and me said, oh, it's the quarter of free. For certain, it's. Abre, and for a little, it's a, but, obscure, I mean, is a, black, like the night. Prende the light. Oh, that

hundreds of cucarachas. hundreds of cucarachas whoi-uying from the loose and I'm like, and I'm like, in this moment I'm going to

I'm saying the person talking. I'm saying I'm trying to me to becky back to the quantity

that's tremendous it's a it's a and I and I and I see how into the

pan the that's the one to or the day or the night of the I don't know

I'm cocaresche whey the chachachas they were in the little the ballitas

of the mace they're they're there and they're all the all the

walls, for the the techo and me did so a power that I

came I'm the poor chico of the botarga that was there

was there was and I did so I so so much so

that force, that I'm streed contrail and he fell down. So, he fell, he was going to be to the other

side of the carie. And I stood to my coach. And the sir, he said, you know,

you're saying, you know, I think, I've thought, that he had a phantom or no- know.

So, so, for him was normal? See? Oh. Normal. And I, he,

he was, oh, manches, because he don't know a lot. I said, I pegged,

but, but, short-st- , I said, Subette, subete, subete,

so, he took the botarga and et cetera, and we're so I, I know, I didn't like to explain

to him, from the year, from the day, no, it's not as I'm going to do it, oh, oh, that's

that I'm just, not, by the buttons. Horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible,

horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, when you when you're, you know, when I made,

you know, like, paus in the botarga, I imagined, that the botarga was made, For the

When the person When I had to Laver I have to laver. Oh, I don't la do you But she has

Yeah, yeah, no, no, no No, no I'm going to to be able to do this. I'm going to

I'm going to feel, is that you're kind of Rara Yeah, like,

so you like you start to all the side of so, here's super limpio

I'm and you start to where you see what's where you do you're in the

chapter of Psychiatry Psychiatrick but it's No? Yes. It's a thing.

It's a lot of Well, I see them as much. No, yeah, to me too. You know, you know, you know,

you know, a sense rarer, to see, many, and they're, so, and they're

a lot of a new, ah, that I, I, this, this, this,

this, this, this, I've been, I'm, that's, no, yeah.

One of, one bit a mountainita, so, no, yeah, no, no,

no, yeah, yeah, yeah, The fact, I was I saw when I trauma.

Yeah. Well, tell us the story. For favor. Okay. Uh,

well, this story is anonym uh, yeah, it's a title, Doña

Camila. Okay. Okay. This person us said that many, many years

he worked a person who a hospital psychiatric in Argentina, not here in the

city of Mexico. The hospital we know that in this moment that in this moment,

of subsidized by the government and, and, well, he had access to to the money, et cetera. Aung-a-on-sie, the hospital, was, encountered in conditions

deplorable, no? I mean, I think there was, this, disbio of, or something, but, well, it's the time, but, then it's a bit,

as well, in all the cases that we've been talked, it's a constant, the people get and abandones his patients to

your suerty. For all the stories that I read, because in this guion and other stories that I've read about psychiatric or hospitals, is very common, desgraceably, that the people go to, literally

to try to his patients, to their family, and they'll forget them. So, so, they're not, so they'll they're all over complete. So, well, in this hospital, that even was, that even

was the people came, I'd have his patients, some those

people were some those their He was a medicament he, I would

give them to give us to make to make a etc the work normal of a

different between what he implying and all the mornings he

he was he was basically all the mornings every

every I'm I'm I'm I'm to do let's do you

to do the she was a great there had a some empathy

of him to the sierra no so could say that he was

he started to take to make a person that was a person who was a little

was a very affected so no he he was not

he he caused a much a kind of he he

started to all the mornings was the most

the the same the same the same routine not to

do don't come to talk about her, you know, and get a

medicament, your food, and retire there's a particular. There's a little

put a sweater color rojo with a floor bordada at the height of

and a faldita coffee. So, it was very common for the being,

but one morning all cameo because a morning he went to do you

don't know to do the day anterior he had seen when So when he retired in the night,

he had seen, and at the morning the next year, he was made. So, he was made, because he was a little bit

that he was a patient abandoned. So, that they'd but never they'd be so he did a rarro,

he said, and he said, no, no, no, we know. So, obviously, because,

during of his labors, it was to report, all this type of things, because could have been

escaped, could be in an area prohibitive of the hospital or something. So, he was to be

to see a to Dr. Narvaise. Marbaise. Marbaes. The Dr. Marbaise is, he

said, what was the last? I mean, he was well, no, no, no. Fiatty

that, yesterday in the night, when, after you you were going to you,

half hour after, after, they were their people, and they were to change

to be, they were to move to this city to a city much much more

lehanna and then they're they're going to do it, they're going to be

a little and they're going to then we did the the sale. He commented

that not a common that the patients come to that way, there's a

time, there there's a time to get, and there there's a formulario to fill

to the patient salgan but however when all, all

all this for part of the Dr. Marbaez he's, he'll do for good if the director of the hospital

he's authorized to an hour that not the adequate then it's no problem me, I'm a not a

a farmerer so the doctor the doctor let's the doctor two months after he

realized his labors normales with the other other and I use

some wands of latex ah but there a detail very special

that what's what's what's I'm going to pass her. He said he attended specifically to Doña Camilla because

the other to have a price. There was a detail. She had a tick. Constantly

moved his his dinted because he had a dentature postice. All the time was doing

that was and much of his companions not tolerable that they disagradable and they

were listening and start listening all the time the the a man, Camilla.

So, as he no he caused a problem, it's for that he started to her,

because nobody more wanted to and he was to take to make a time. So,

well, pass the time. Two months after while he did he

did he he used to use for, well, just for to have hygiene,

no? That day they're their hands. So, in the cajita

there no more more there, he he did the sotano of the hospital,

which is where was the almacen, where they were wands, gases, alcohol, in fin,

all what you could get to need to need to be to get to and there's no way to see, and no

be the encargated and he he says, he's there only a minute and he no

so, so well, what will go to open the door and he's met him to

he's to be not going to get to my guys, I'm looking for I see an anakel,

be the other, and there's where they're putt. And in what is he's going to and looking

a point, be a point, a port of metal that was never ever not, I

know, I know, not a other, other other, other, or other

quarter, probably there have much more material of curation, I'm going to

try to see they there, So, he's and when when he goes, what he

he, he'll be, he'll be, painted, like with spray, with symbols extraions that he don't

know that are, symbols, in the pentagrama, afura of the pentagrama great, with a diameter,

I think, of more to a meter, and he and he begins to see to be

raras, like asphinges of the devil, like, things like, and it's to be the blacks for

all the sides. Basically, what's he's found is a place where they're doing they're

satanical. Yes, basically. But there's a detail that's a lot of attention.

At the long, there was a montoncito of the top. In the the

piece, there a mononcit of but what he called the attention is that in the most

high of this mononcetit there was a sweater color rojo with a flower bordered at the

height of the and a feldra coffee. No manches. So, then he

says, what's what's going in that moment he's he's that

he's that's that are going on the passillo then he

he's he's He says rapid, Alcansa, and parake to the door and literally, to get to

out of the encargated, no, they're still, he gets the encargated, oh, how, how are

good, days? What's? No, well, this, nervous. No,

some wanttes, I'd be to some wands, ah, yeah, no, you don't you don't you

looked to, he'd be able, and he's he's entree. But he, he, he's a disjunitive where

he says, I could pass two things. Or I saw public what he had a public what

I was in a problem that would be going to be going to things very feas. Obviously

all these altures we know and we suppose what could have happened with the

she in some some some sacrifice or I know there was there

there there take the decision to keep the not

say nothing not involucrars literally no so it's but not

it's a part of the problem know of to know to be not being

done things illegal illegals orribles illegal orribles so

so past two two seven present a renuncia

and he's all the case so that totally

the case there that that part of the story

A year more later In In a A good He's A ex-companero And he

He has gone He has gone In the hospital And he's He's had Mured All that So he said

No, you And he No No, no I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm So it So it He Mardwee He He's He's

Enlokees Toe a little. The doctor initially said that during the nights, that when his guards in the passio, that when he was going to

listen to... No manches. The Dientes The Dientes of the Sheena. Empeasers, then he was enloquoise, in what to be, because he not only only he was in the hospital, yeah he he was in his house, yeah he was

while he was, while he was, while he was, he, he was. He said, He started, enloquered, enloqueser, enloqueser. And, look, what are the things. This doctor no had family. It was a person solitary.

He started to do you that he per die of the post and, and all not to have a family to who

could recurriced, practically is auto-intern in the hospital. The doctor was attended, but all the time

he was, the time, the those, the dents, the dents, the dents,

the dents. Obviously, this doctor then to get a new person, they're in a new person

for some circumstances, get a new new personnel of the emacens, so with the past of

time, so with the time, it's a new doctor that gets that's that's

that actually in this hospital they were to do have been in a the

catanical and they're to revisit the expedients and there were faultants

of persons that were in situation of abandon that never reclamed their families

were they were they're basically they're they've had three years and no he

visited nobody trytel to that at the little that's

so up is of the patient's and all this rolloo. This was the decade of the 80s at the beginning, what he discovered what he was over. And, and the year of 1991,

the hospital is clausurated without explanation or any to the families of the patients that they were, so long as a transferado to other clinics, or to their houses, what they decided, and the hospital is clausurated, without explanation and no-sewere, and no

so so much no the doctor Marbaise he knew and he's

and he apart without family without without without family enloquished

yeah fiat that what that's that's so this is

other case so the that you was you was a

a a and here not it was that also it's

something it's something it's not better because maybe

they're submitted to some that, no, I don't know what that's a lot, Cros, no, no, I know

that's what they're doing, with the people and were disappearing little to be in the hospital.

No, what people? That's, it's, it's, it's very feo. Yeah, it's horrible.

It's horrible. Really, as, as we're talking at the things, uh, that are

that are that are not normal, a lot of sometimes can be more even, even,

of what you can't imagine, if were a phantasm, if it was an apparition, if it were a demonio, the reality, a over much to the things

paranormal. For much. It's horrible. For much. It's horrible. Oye, I go to the ultimate story, because we always

the most terrorilishika for the final. I'm a little. I don't know. Yeah, I saw that you, you know, I'm still, the name is that padre.

I'm going to get this because me, I'm going to get a, my God, I thought you thought I don't no, no,

you know, yeah, I don't you've been to be a very, this story us made

Lydia Alvarado Luna. Okay. The story is about 23. Here there's a

notation very interesting only only I want to commenter for one reason.

For one reason. This this story came to go to Instagram but

not went to Instagram to Podcast Paranormal or to my account because when we send stories for there, let's say, manda the corro,

manda to send the email, to get a control. But, he went to a other person at the

team of the team of the and he said, I'm going to read, and he said, this is a great story.

So, he went for a channel distinct, but I'm I just I supplico that, although we'll

send them the Correar because if no, no, well, so at at least

Fermex, not they're going to get them. So, so that's so, so that's

not to get to the courer. And this story, says, yes. Lydia

was a time at that's in that Pepan, in the infirmerer, in the

center medical for reclusorios the Norea. Okay. that this obviously, I mean, that we're saying that the patients,

otherwise to have, well, some thing, of those faculties mental, some formid, some situation, were people

that were in this place because had committed atroces criminals. All of course. One night when I was

to work, and said that she was at the 8 of the night and practically out at

8 of the day the same what we know we that we're that we're two turns

very long so 12 or at even 24 24 24 so

so it like 24 24 for 24 so so I'm in this turn

they were at most or less or less at the night was I'm

and she and a company result that in that was

he was he's to get to to get to And you cover, no

you'll be sure Well, much thanks Well, this this chick She's she's going to a day of

a little And then the night was a very quiet She put to revisit the list of

patients there in the control of the infirmary when the when the

tranquillity so and I start to hear to the patients

that but so that so they were all They were inquietes, they were inquietes. And the bad is that she

not could say to revisit, that was what was going, because she was alone. So, if a patient, for some reason, for example, no had taken her his medications,

she'd have taken, she'd attack? Yeah, it'd be a danger. Sure. And then nobody is to enter any of nothing. Could be very dangerous. So she'd ever

a a custodio, but no, he said, he was like, what I do, what I do? And we said the next. When I was about to go to go to the patients

solo, appeared before me an man horrible, alto, so, soamently

delgado, with ojeras profound, a rostro escheletic, sejas oscuras. His test was super

blank. I was really I didn't even I don't hear this

man he was he was he said and without expression I said he's 24

patients I'm I responded I'm thinking that was a patient bet to

your camera this this man he's She was immutu. She was

he was a voice grave and he repeated. You're 24 patients. She got

of the question. A firmation. It was an affirmation. And I I said with more

force. No. I'm 25 patients. He, so, without

expression, began to get to get to She was coming very lently. She said he was

detentedly. No record that was one of the patients. When he passed for the passio where

were all the patients, many of these patients started to cry, to grittal, supplicable

and they said, no, no, no, I, she was so much so much.

So, when I wanted to see to see what was what was confused

he was the alert of paro cardiac took the alarm and now so

he was a medical what what what cariac and

they were to get to the soundar alarm

and they there a person and they're with the

techniques of renovation, compressions cardiacs, administration of medications, all during 20 minutes, until the doctor declared the hour of the death of the patient. A little bit after, he went to the worker social and he said,

Mal a night, Lily? You've got to 24 patients, right? U-U. He said that when he was he felt a scalofrio that, so, so, for all the spada. And he

responded, no it's her. Via the murder. Me said that only me going to

get 24 patients. She said obviously, no was going to say that was going to

explain it. It was an event rare, terrorific and only was with the experience

that this never to never be to have been many days,

normal the routine of always, but she had in the mind that event of

that night. I don't want to toparse with that man that's strange. Much of

the patients, as you commented, has committed some crimes horrible. Some

they've had been to the life to his parents, his brothers.

Others, literally the other to have been the life of

a person they've had come part of the body of his victims he's

literally there there are other crimes that you can't

imagine things that overpass the limits of the

aberrante of all these patients criminal says that

they they're they're they're they they're they He was called Miguel.

Miguel? He had cuted the life to her her manita with syndrome of the dog. Miguel

he said, if not he had been my papa, he'd would be doing to

and I would be for the remordiment it was the only form it was the

only form said Lily I think it's necessary to describe the things that are horrible that the father of

Miguel he had that his little every night Miguel year he'd a night in the

night, had terminated his round of revision of patients and he regress to the control

of the family when he was where he was the patient had seen

a Miguel very I'm still and he he said you're you're you're

you're or you need a little or you know a medication but but Miguel no he

he said back he's back he goes to he said and a hour after

again again the of a the patients started to

get to she she said she said that would ever to pass the

same. And when he out of the passio see a man

a man with the bat full of the was coming very

long with the hands with the palms up upuntating up

she she came to a custodio to see

that had been that that was that was

that was that was Miguel. He was there. Now detenied

with the palms of the hands to the right and the rostro looking at the when he

was going to when he was worried he was with horror that in the palms of the

hands of Miguel was every one of his eyes Miguel was

almost agonizing scurrying from the coenca's oculares where before

were in his eyes and he he he was he went a little the rostro

and with a little a little a smile he said I don't I'm

my her I don't I will see she in that she

in this moment at this so she took to

he was to go to his place of work and he was maried

and he passed for the room he went to see and in the window

of the room with the same was the number 23 just the

number of patients that were that were that that Miguel fell

that that miso that miso that much that fear and that fear

Grand story. Me, he was terrorific. Sin words. Imagineate that you, see that scene of a manches, a person with

the eyes in the hands? I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, she, she, she, she, the, the shock in the that was so

so far, and it's, and it's that, it's, it's, but, but, but,

There's... There are that are much fear for the stories paranormal that they can

get to get to get to them. But there's places like the

psychiatric where so do things things unimaginable. Even one

once that they've been to have to be done what a that sometimes

can be what a cruel human the malddad? how potent it can be that's

that's back back, then, regressando to the area that's

we're talking about, how many has been to have disappeared the castaneda and they

see in the manifestations and they're the the words, the people see the people be

the people be the same it's very very strong it's so far

Oh, yes. Well, this story is called The Nia of Rojo and is anonymous. I think is the first that I'm but have

been many have been much Adonimus, fifted. Yes, but it's that's it's a Yeah, no, it's

terrible. I mean, I'm imagine did the authorization this ultimate but, but it's

but it's very much Lydia Alvarado Lona Uh-huh Yeah, so there But well

right right there's another The Nia of Anonymous This This chica

us from when she was when was a little she was a very solitaria

very very very calli not about the people not not

not to have a contact physical from from the

years she she she was she was she was

she she was she had friends in the school

I always had apart to other people in

the the other children, no, no, no, no, she said

that, well, so, she's a certain point monotone, ryan in what

the trist, ryaned in the really, because no, he, he had friends,

no, had to a other she, she'd say, she,

he, he, was, he, was, he'd to come, and he

had a permission to a mother, to get a to have to a garden

that was there's a little of the building she was in she was she was a

here in the colony of Rome. Okay. So it was a whole of the edifices

where they had a garden common for all the people. So in that

then it was sure, I think no there much problem so the mom let me

let me let me let me get to get to her and she had to get to

play to play So, the moment, then the mom, but he chava obviously an ojito, that's a

that's a and she's that she's a time, he said, he said, he was a little,

she was a little bit of the time, he said, I can't play with you? And she said,

yeah, or she, he came to surprise, that someone was very, very accustomed to,

to that the children, to, they, they, so, he said, and the

a little she present and he he said, look, I'm my name Anna,

I'm in the fifth piece, you don't you're where you he said, I'm in the

third piece, in the three hundred three. Ah, well, I'm in the

fifth piece. And a part of that's his life to change. His

life to do to do better, you know, he started a time to

the after the school. Salire to to get to his family

because then when a first first all the times

all the time was to get a minute, and he said, and he was to get a little of the time,

and he was every time he had to get a, and he was put to work, placidavals, he had

got to be in the school, what he had done, the other little she was

and, and, and so it was started a new one bit between

two. His mom her the changes that in some humor. She was a

better more more happy, and the mom he gave much much so. So, then I'm

to ask, what? What's the thing's, she's a friend, she said, no,

but, you're I'm just I'm playing, one of those days, he was a

little of a little she's she's she omitio a detail that at the

final of the story no the story, no she. She never

had had with a same vestrito rojo and he said that's her favorite

so he's a then she's going to to tell a mom and the mom was always my wife and I'm my wife has a

and I know a change in her humor quite positive this so then then then

pass the time and the mom he said yeah that I'm so you I'm so

you're you're to comeer I would like to know I'm like

she's for So, I suppose that so that time she's a time

and he said oh yeah that my mom you want to know, and she never said like,

um, for? Well, because me has been quite content, I'm very

content with your amstead, we're going to come to get to the day

of the day of and I know, and she okay, then I'm have to

give permission to my papas, you do I'm permission is very

sure that I'm very he's very sure to get a to go to your and to her friend to go to

her house and present to her mom. The site was at the 3 of the time. Dierro,

3 and 4 and 4. 3.5. 4. of the time. 5. 6.

Never ever never. No. He was. So, she started

to feel to feel very Triste, because his friend had left her She was a consoled,

he started, he started to he said, you know, it's very probable that not they've done a

his papas. No, you don't you know you know, it's normal. Maybe I could have

been who didn't give a to you. And she would have in your place.

No, you'd be not you. He's not he's a other day. He said, well, it's He went to the garden

after the school, and there Anna. And the encounter, he said, What happened? Why didn't you, I said, pardon? Is that no, they were given permission, my papas? But, we're going to amigas? For sure,

we're going to be able to be a other occasion we've got to my house and you'll know my mom. Yes, for sure, it's been a other occasion. And they're put in a hug, to to play, et cetera. And she

began to go to his house conformed going to be the days and telling to his mom,

well, he said, I said, I said, I said, I'm going, but the days passed

and she was telling that she was being feeling, and so, but the mom,

he entered the doubt, no, he said, who is this this little

she, really, really never I've seen. So, he still doing

permission to go to get to play in the But But she She had

She was She was She said her She was She was sentada In the Pasto With her

Sheppas About her And And there And there And there No, And there

And all And then And then And then During a time The Moma

her And And when she She I had And

I had And it had jugged, what they had been told. So the

mom, so it was supposed the logic, no, my my little

problems mentals. Eschofreenia, exxofrey, or something. And she she said that one

after the school, her mom she changed, she said, we're going to go to another

place, and he said, and he said that when he went, the,

they got a, they've to get a a clinic, where

a doctor he started to attender, he started many questions, he asked about her

friend, how she he said, and she did he's very very strange. But with

the past of the time, he did count and the doctors talked with her and

they did know that that she had that she didn't no exist no it.

They had to bring to back to the reality. She started

to medicate she She said that, even medicated, even with all this, passed those years, and she understood that her really no existia. But,

she'd be able. A unmedicated, she'd be able to be it. A bit of the ventana, and she was sent to herding and her, but she had no permission to go. And she sentia

felt a feo. In many occasions, when a discue of her mother could escape, I was going and and he saluted because

after after the after many years that she had a a mischievouser

she was being a she was being being being in cariened with her what he was

she was she was she and the she was she she got to have

to have 20 years when not only only only she was she was

they they were to interned for temporaries in a psychiatric. In one of those temporaries that was interned, her mom acudio to receive the

diagnostic of her, how he was evolutioning. He was waiting in the cell of the wait with the lady, with the young, with the seniorita, and a, a chick. She was the mom. She was she. She said that Anna was there living, and was another patient, also, of the area psychiatric. And Jana

she was looking to her and he'd read. And she, disimulately, like, she was, like, she was, like, she was and she'd be used to be a very accustomed to

her presence and she'd like that. De Pront, the patient that was, another patient, totally is known, she's a certain she's a chick, and he says,

I can't see. No manches, bro. And she's like, what? The little, the the little

of the rojo. I also I can't see. No, no, no, this no, this is possible

this not going. All this this has made make to know that's in my

imagination. No, is possible. Anna never grew. Platicica all this

with her mom. Fortunately, the relation that she had with her was very

good and after she was a conversation that this not was not part of your

imagination. no had schizophrenia. Had been medicated during many years. And for

so it was going to. And now, yeah, yeah, exactly. A un- medicated

she was being because not was part of a disorder mental. When the

mom creed all the story, this story does a a

walk and and pass from the area psychiatric to

the area paranormal. So the mom I'm going to ask

to ask you a lot of other instances until they're with a

woman that they have recommended that he's that they're

when they're when they this she says how how is

possible that has lived all these years with

this and she how what you do you have

is a woman of a man a falle

that that's adired to you and has been in your life

she has been she has made or he has created in some that you that was

doing is drain your energy and and the more you're you

in her and more force let's to the presence more

more more it's more more it to to

this world and more energy to to absorb

But we're going to But they're going to do. They're going to do a series of limpies, uh, rituals, etc.

That's it. So, I see you, to be able to be to this entity of this chica.

With the past of the time, she said that she, in effect, she, she was,

she did to be for temporaries. But there days, when she was a

I was just felt mal when had a problem, when she was a

because he went to a state and she and I see

and I talk about with her and I was she was that she

that a amig like a person real that

that now not so that he but there

sometimes that needs she need and she needs

to talk to They're. It's attract. She'll try. Yeah, she has to final a commentary and

says, now I know this type of things exist in really. I'm I'm pretty how many people,

how's people are in hospitals, medicated, isolated, when in the reality is that are

at a mercy of an entity that that's this world. Yes, yes. Yes, it's true.

I mean, I've never that's a doubt I've been done many I'm going to because how could you

know, what is? If I'm you're real. You can't tell the story this of the

angel? The first? The of the that they've told them in Spain. Ah,

yes, yes, how you'd you know real? Yes. In

what moment can a person with schizophrenia distinguish between one person real and a person

that's not it's. No, not so it's very difficult. No, because in your

head, it's real, it's like if right me said that no exist the podcast

insomnia, you know you're not and I'm talking to I'm how I can't

of that? No you can. No you can? you think that that in this

this same we're we're living day to day for example I'm with

with the other people but but a person in particular of those that are

in torno to my life could not be real and you do you think

that that person in particular be the person with the person with the person with the

person with get to have that person that can't be? Because it's

part of you? So, if you you're you're projecting, you're doing,

sentiments, situations that are that are that's projecting in other person

for maybe maybe could be a dialogue with you know, how you know?

It's very complex. Demacium. It's very complex and it's aterrador. Yeah,

Bastent It's that we don't understand We don't we don't we don't we need to we're

of our of our sure, and we know very little of our spirit very little

so. So, it's a thing very difficult for the people that study psychiatry

psychology, etc. Because they're they're trying doing things good for

all us in their grand majority, for the right

to be trying to do this good, and they're doing to be a lot of there's a

very, very many people, in those that's not the kind of maybe,

could be another other thing, like this case, that's that's, that's,

they've to be very, very, very, very, so, because if

not are very, so we're, we've committed a grave error as humanity.

Cae. Yeah, I, I, I, I'm of the idea of the more

than to have this situation and no, how not is respecting the work of the medical, no, no,

I respect much the work of the medical. Because are, of all the professions are the

most that's the pastaches. And salvan lives. Salvan lives. So, literally

is the office of these people, I could say that the most noble of all the

offices. Yes, in all those areas, cardiologists, in all those other

other other areas. But if one revisa the history of the medicine

if you you can you can find the things that you very very

very very but it because if not we need we're never

never and that's because you have to investigate much

the phenomena for normal for understand it's science

that has been explained is so if we can we

can't we schizophrenia and the spirit chocarrero. If we can't understand. It's that are situations that, today, probably we know, we've been as malas vibras, like brujeria, like amarrows, as, as, as, malditions. But,

no, I see, in a future, if we get to decifers, or if the people adequate, do you get to decifraer, it's a science. Sure. That's it. It's a science. Wow. I'm going to the textito of

Salida. I'll change the little. But it's like. I still have a

voice so I'm so much okay. In the those those those

hospitals of the hospitals psychiatricks see in histories terrorificas spectros

that are that torment to the personal medical demonies

criminals and and soceses inexplicable who's know maybe what they're

not not a product of their love that that we can't see that the world

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