INSOMNIO - RELATOS ATERRADORES DE CHANEQUES "JUEGAN A DESAPARECER NIÑOS"😰 | con DAFNE SILVA ‪@SeRegalanSustos

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

En este episodio, nos acompaña Dafne de Se Regalan Sustos para adentrarnos en las aterradoras historias de chaneques enviadas por nuestra comunidad. ¿Son estos enigmáticos seres solo una ilusión, ...jugando con nuestra mente, o hay algo mucho más oscuro y aterrador detrás de sus misteriosas apariciones? Cada encuentro con ellos es inesperado y escalofriante, pero los chaneques siguen manifestándose de formas cada vez más sorprendentes. Prepárate para descubrir los oscuros secretos que esconden estas criaturas míticas... Si te atreves.👻Host: https://www.instagram.com/fepomx🔗 Redes del invitado: https://www.instagram.com/nenukadoohttps://www.instagram.com/se_regalan_...https://youtube.com/@seregalansustos Síguenos en redes sociales para más contenido:https://www.tiktok.com/@podcast.insomniohttps://www.facebook.com/paranormal.i...https://www.instagram.com/podcast.ins...👽Escucha Podcast Paranormal https://www.youtube.com/@podcastparan... 👻 Comparte Historias, Memes y Evidencias Paranormales 📝Cuéntanos tus historias:https://podcastinsomnio.com/fepo@podcastparanormal.comfepo@podcastinsomnio.com✨Grupo oficial de Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/groups/54848...💬Grupo oficial de Telegram: https://t.me/+vFdn13cseD0zZWUx🛒Compra Merch Exclusiva y Accede a los Mejores Videos:https://podcastparanormal.com📧Consultas empresariales: negocios@podcastparanormal.com#Chaneques #MisteriosDeMéxico #FenómenosParanormales #HistoriasDeTerror #CriaturasMíticas #LeyendasMexicanas #TerrorMexicano #HistoriasDeMiedo #CuentosDeTerror #EncuentrosInexplicables #MisteriosSinResolver #SeresMisteriosos #ChanequesHistorias #CuentosParanormales #HistoriasDeChaneques #LeyendasYRealidades #MisteriosDelMásAllá #TerrorYSuspenso #FenómenosExtraños #RelatosDeMiedo #Podcast #Paranormal

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Very good days, tardes or noches. Beenvenous to a new new chapter of insomnia. In where we're to narrate
Starting point is 00:00:06 the most terrorifices experiences reales of the audience. So, listen them if they're
Starting point is 00:00:12 and they're and this occasion. And in this occasion, it's a new first time here.
Starting point is 00:00:20 So, so, welcome. How are you? Thank you. Pepo. Very content
Starting point is 00:00:24 to to be to be this occasion emotion too because this
Starting point is 00:00:28 this time that we're going to put on the mesa is spectacular. It's spectacular. To me, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:35 it's one of the things that most I like this one of this is the third part of Chankees Enannos
Starting point is 00:00:43 de Minutes Demonies, duendes who know, but I know that you also you also this
Starting point is 00:00:50 thing, that you're expert, I'd like this before that you're about the
Starting point is 00:00:55 time, that you do you do you do you What are your social and platforms? Sure that
Starting point is 00:00:59 yeah. Well, I'm doing a podcast called on and a lot of Paco Arias and Oscar Herbert for there
Starting point is 00:01:07 if they want to go to visit our we're talking about about about both questions paranormal,
Starting point is 00:01:13 like a bit of iceberg theories conspiratives and all of these things that are a
Starting point is 00:01:18 little controversial we're we're we're also that also now. Now you're
Starting point is 00:01:26 We, we'll talk a little bit, you know, both of the paranormal asperks, these questions too of the children that are and that are
Starting point is 00:01:36 characters also that have marked the history in question of assassinations. Very well, very well. And the
Starting point is 00:01:42 social and platforms? I'm they're in Instagram like Daphne Silva or an Nukado. For there
Starting point is 00:01:49 I can't answer your messages and be in contact with you. And also you're not
Starting point is 00:01:53 to pass to the Redes and they're regal sustos, as
Starting point is 00:01:56 as you like we're in all the social, TikTok, Instagram,
Starting point is 00:02:01 Facebook, and for supposed YouTube. Excellent. Oh, what can you know,
Starting point is 00:02:06 what you can say? About the, for example, of the Chaneques, what you
Starting point is 00:02:11 can't say? Look, I think that's a lot about divideded in opinions.
Starting point is 00:02:17 As as there many people that are people who are people,
Starting point is 00:02:21 the other And another one time you commenta that there's a good in them. Questions, like you know, do-ins. The Chenekees are a type of duendes
Starting point is 00:02:33 that are this side of the region, not the region of the South of Mexico. So, the to have contact with these beings,
Starting point is 00:02:42 is to learn things new. When you you're like these things, you can get to have to have some
Starting point is 00:02:49 of them, in questions of help to make a better to your life for the questions economic, and there are
Starting point is 00:02:57 many of things in questions of the theme spiritist in where the duendes that are
Starting point is 00:03:03 like the chankees they can be able to be able but there are many many
Starting point is 00:03:09 about them about them about if they are not creatures good or
Starting point is 00:03:15 creatures badas in what personal I've had some experiences
Starting point is 00:03:19 with these elements that elemental is that right I'll talk to but I think like you
Starting point is 00:03:26 comment it's this thing I think the part of the people think that is they can help you and the other
Starting point is 00:03:34 part you don't, no, you're going to do you're going to do that that's a there are
Starting point is 00:03:40 some of the the thing of the the matter the term of the exaterrestres specifically
Starting point is 00:03:46 the beings of the dimension that they want And this, the chaneques or the duendes, in general, where there are two filters. The first is, Cree's in their existence?
Starting point is 00:04:00 If, no. If the response is, yes, you, you think they're that they're going to, or you think they're not? And there is this part of the experience of each one.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Sure. Dime, do you. Do you? Do you? Do you think they're not? No. I think they're incomprehendidious. Exactly. But,
Starting point is 00:04:17 but if there are some stories that a sometimes they put in a doubt even that part I feel
Starting point is 00:04:23 that they're a think they're in some people and a badvades, so they're so they're
Starting point is 00:04:32 too, fithes that more that they're that you are you do you
Starting point is 00:04:37 do you are are there's there's there's there's that
Starting point is 00:04:41 question that you you you have to you have to you
Starting point is 00:04:45 can't do you there are a certain type of duende, like the cheneques, that are like these these children who are in some regular.
Starting point is 00:04:56 So, they're doing what they're doing, there are some who are more tranquill, so, these travisos are those that, for the regular,
Starting point is 00:05:05 you're in the mountains, in the mountains, in the rios, no? And there are some others
Starting point is 00:05:11 that are more to the question in where they they're to do certain questions of that if
Starting point is 00:05:16 if you going to to go to get to your house, they're keeping to
Starting point is 00:05:20 your animals, no? So, there different situations that are present in where they're presentes
Starting point is 00:05:26 also. So, as they're amoralal, you are the that you're the intention to
Starting point is 00:05:33 these little. So, and also, remember that, as, not it's not that's not that's
Starting point is 00:05:38 not that we're not, we're the those who determine that part of what is good and what is
Starting point is 00:05:44 a these entities, we can't make a understand what is good and what is bad. So,
Starting point is 00:05:48 now, we're going to start with these stories, but also I'm going to some point in a moment you
Starting point is 00:05:55 want to talk a little or something very very very interesting. Sure. That's very a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:01 If you want, I, I've had been many experiences with them, from them, from them
Starting point is 00:06:07 one of the most the more that for me has been so it's because I not was made
Starting point is 00:06:13 in this theme of the the duend, but they were calling and and fichate that the
Starting point is 00:06:17 person that me was talking about these things, me said that they're they're doing, not it's
Starting point is 00:06:23 that you those busks to you, they're they're they're in they're because you
Starting point is 00:06:28 want to or something, they're simply, they're being being being here with you.
Starting point is 00:06:33 This story I've talked about when me, they're about them about
Starting point is 00:06:37 them, for a simple reason. It was the first the first that I
Starting point is 00:06:41 took a a contact so, and me impact so. So,
Starting point is 00:06:44 uh, you know, to let me to talk about for the more or less or less you know, that's the time. We're not even with this person
Starting point is 00:06:53 that I tell you that is, uh, expert in duend, she has approximately 12 duendes with her. And she never
Starting point is 00:07:01 me said that they were good. They're, they're some creatures good, that they had used to them in
Starting point is 00:07:07 questions primarily economic. This person that I tell me, the fact, he's a very good,
Starting point is 00:07:14 very tranquilly, economically, he's very very well. So when she said this,
Starting point is 00:07:20 I was a little because for me from me, since I've always been, like, no, the
Starting point is 00:07:25 chanke's not, the children, is because something a bad-and- or the cheneke
Starting point is 00:07:30 are the children, if they're not- bautis- and they're not, because they
Starting point is 00:07:34 don't, then the ideas that I had made about these were about
Starting point is 00:07:39 these, were a this was what I thought when she said, is that I think I'm doing duendous
Starting point is 00:07:44 with me. I said, well, I think that's to respect his, so,
Starting point is 00:07:49 but in one occasion, I had been having been living certain questions in my
Starting point is 00:07:55 house, um, like son- sounds, it's there were in the madrogated,
Starting point is 00:08:02 the pernita that we had been in the nights that were not, it was
Starting point is 00:08:07 a laddri- - but not a danger, but when you when you're like, when you're so
Starting point is 00:08:14 so I'm so I'm in the madrugated at the two, three, four of the morning and
Starting point is 00:08:20 it was strange, no, it's a little, so I'm to say, you say, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:25 I think, there's a there's a little in your house, let me to be to
Starting point is 00:08:31 let me to checker because then, but not to be the way to it's
Starting point is 00:08:35 she's she's she's but oscura, so with a little bit of a bit of a
Starting point is 00:08:41 little bit of I said, no, just I'm just I'm going to go to get a checker and I'm sure she's a
Starting point is 00:08:45 perfect. She'll she and she oh, look, there's she never
Starting point is 00:08:51 had been to my house, she never we know, we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:08:56 the patio in where I had my perrita. And see, look, there are you you're
Starting point is 00:09:01 four, you know, you're you're four doend and I you know, but
Starting point is 00:09:05 until this still still still incredula and I said this me is
Starting point is 00:09:10 me is agranging like, I'm like to check and he's me care, and he's not,
Starting point is 00:09:15 you're going to get to you know, how? So, they say, they can't get to
Starting point is 00:09:21 with you want to be so you know, I'm I'm going to feel nervous and I
Starting point is 00:09:26 did, no, no, no, I don't want, I'm, I'm not, I'm sure, I'm sure to chiflar
Starting point is 00:09:31 and they're and they're kids, I'm, so, fens' with you, she still doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And I'm for you know, I'm going to go to me. I'm going to, I'm really, so I'm, so it's really
Starting point is 00:09:48 some people, and they're, and they're not so muching with Daphne. She still still still. But the day
Starting point is 00:09:54 that she is still if you want to get to you're going to you're going to I'm trying to and I'm,
Starting point is 00:10:00 so I'm like, well, what's going, what's going, I'm going, I'm saying, well, something, something.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And, and, of course, and, I'm going to I'll get to get the right. And yeah. Abre your
Starting point is 00:10:13 box. And it's clearly like if something that's not that's also it's like that
Starting point is 00:10:19 that they're like that they're to get into the box? And so it was like that you're that you
Starting point is 00:10:24 were that came to me, I was in front of me, I was I was with my partyha and there
Starting point is 00:10:30 there's, they're saying they're saying a lot so he and he and you we're we're doing
Starting point is 00:10:35 that's happening? What? That's just what? And it's and still she's, and stillia
Starting point is 00:10:39 she said to my parraza, look at the bolsa and he and he's like he was like he's
Starting point is 00:10:45 like a piece of something so we're so we're so it's incredible what we're doing and living and
Starting point is 00:10:53 so she she had been said because I had had been a object very
Starting point is 00:10:58 very and me said ah I've had oh I'm oh
Starting point is 00:11:02 my you I'm five minutes and and I go back the
Starting point is 00:11:06 ball's and they're And then they'd And then they'd give him to Daphne's your anil. And then you'll begin to talk to you. I'm going to for me. And I had I extraviated, but I no, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:11:41 if it had left, I don't know, there's even in the house, in some other place. You know, you know, so, you know, so, once, I've been used to this anil, and I, and I helped to move all the objects
Starting point is 00:11:53 in the house. Stufa, refrigerator, we're, barrimed, lavish, we're did, uh, uh, you've, you?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah, but, but what was that? Like a grito, no? No, you know, so? Yes, but, but that's normal here? Well, no. Okay. I was, clearly.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah, it's clear. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was strange. Well, no, aita, us will say. And then? Okay, then, um,
Starting point is 00:12:25 we impiaced all, because I did, I think, I'd say, I'm called. I, I remember that he had left in the mesa, but between what you'd, I'm not? A little and it was and I was travied. Passed. Yeah, I was
Starting point is 00:12:37 almost resignated that I had had been my anil. And I said, well, when she said, it's going to
Starting point is 00:12:42 say, it's because I think they're they're too, and they're just to to get objects
Starting point is 00:12:48 brightos. Passed and all. For the morning, me I'm first that I'm
Starting point is 00:12:54 in the house, back the under the last to get to the last time, while I
Starting point is 00:13:00 was going going to be on, I was my anillo in that escalon. Nobody had
Starting point is 00:13:05 never had never my my children and my know, no, knew anything
Starting point is 00:13:11 of this, when I go and I saw, I'm a photo, she'll send her
Starting point is 00:13:15 and me said, you know, I'm said, I'm said, I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:13:22 that I'm was used that I've had been that all over to the thing,
Starting point is 00:13:26 it was if someone who had put in that place. And to
Starting point is 00:13:30 mention a question also that that was a little did not a girl did not
Starting point is 00:13:36 he did the other day, thenpranito and he was a little did he
Starting point is 00:13:43 did it wow wow what what what what what
Starting point is 00:13:46 what that yeah I think was the first occasions in
Starting point is 00:13:51 that I had had had some I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:13:56 incredula, because I admit to. At the principle, I said, no, he's not braeming, no? Because you see a person normal and no see nothing around and you're saying me are getting here to the loquita, no? No, no
Starting point is 00:14:09 I was to hear. In first, I heard the bolza, the talk, my, my, my, my pairha, and sent you, it was the last, when me gave them, that was extraviated, I
Starting point is 00:14:21 had time. Fidate that I, I'm It seems super-impressionant because the manner in the way that you say this person to be able to these entities, to the dwinds, as well. The same form, there's a person in Costa Rica
Starting point is 00:14:36 that does exactly the same, in the way in that that they're about. Yeah, me told two times of this person. I'm going to try to grab with her in Costa Rica. But you know, you has to know that a friend me told, Don Metal, that he sent a salute,
Starting point is 00:14:52 me told so he, he, he, he, he, he saw like the
Starting point is 00:14:58 music were the of the columpios and all this, but he thought he said, he said, so he
Starting point is 00:15:04 opened the box, so his bolsa, so he, was, he was, he was, let me,
Starting point is 00:15:11 blah, blah, he said, and he he said, and he he said, he said,
Starting point is 00:15:16 but he said that person, another, other, another, another, another,
Starting point is 00:15:20 another, another person, a A friend, including she was because I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:15:28 learn to how to manage a the dweens. And, you know, and me told a experience rarestim.
Starting point is 00:15:35 No, he saw, but it was a front of her. And wow, it seems is incredible
Starting point is 00:15:40 that you tell you this story. Yeah, the zone of the duendts. And apart she,
Starting point is 00:15:45 uh, right that you know, she has they're all over there
Starting point is 00:15:50 there small, how could say, in vases, which are like if were moenekos,
Starting point is 00:15:55 in form of duend, it's like, they're in redididates, like with about it and they're
Starting point is 00:16:01 really when you're and they're and she have various of these. Mukees? Yes,
Starting point is 00:16:05 so she she doesn't she's, because there's the embers where his kids are so,
Starting point is 00:16:12 so I use this for that they can enter in it and I'm you let's you'll
Starting point is 00:16:16 give, for example, to park of diversions, to the bosque, to the river,
Starting point is 00:16:21 she not live here. So, in an occasion that came to be in
Starting point is 00:16:25 a place, he was a little and he's he said, and he's going to
Starting point is 00:16:32 them, obviously not so obviously, no, we're not, because we
Starting point is 00:16:36 don't see this questions, but she is she's prepared with all
Starting point is 00:16:39 this, she she could be able there, so, he was there was there
Starting point is 00:16:44 was there was there was there And they said, yeah, they're hungry, we're going to eat, and the people like, well, this senior is a loquita, no? Because it's very strange
Starting point is 00:16:56 when they do. Much. But they're just as well, like if were some new kids that you've got to play us to play. And other question that I want to
Starting point is 00:17:03 talk to, is that this same chick, I had talked about her in the team about her. She not doesn't come to comears,
Starting point is 00:17:13 she has been invited, but no she says that's she's a little she's and more
Starting point is 00:17:18 I'm not I'm not I'm not they're not even they're so that she's
Starting point is 00:17:24 that she went to this rio also some people go to a rio and they
Starting point is 00:17:30 they're in a restaurant in this restaurant they knew that was
Starting point is 00:17:37 she she was she was talking to the little the columpe that
Starting point is 00:17:43 was there, she was moving. So, he said, children, it's the
Starting point is 00:17:46 time, we're going to get us, when they're doing this, and they're that they're not going to
Starting point is 00:17:52 they're not. They're the amy the woman. And when they said, well, we didn't know,
Starting point is 00:17:58 we said, but we're impressioned the fact that the columpio was moving-s,
Starting point is 00:18:02 without that there were more than one, that was the one, that was the one of the
Starting point is 00:18:06 people who were the people, so it's, it was, and part that they said,
Starting point is 00:18:11 in a immediate the presence of her how she puts how they
Starting point is 00:18:17 it's really a lot this actually that she is doing that she's
Starting point is 00:18:24 saying that are very interesting I'm I want to say that is
Starting point is 00:18:31 very important the fact that she at the she at the she
Starting point is 00:18:36 imagine you you are in they're in and convives with Paco
Starting point is 00:18:43 and you see what also, also, even we're what I'm what I'm saying we're doing,
Starting point is 00:18:54 because immediately this part rational, where you know, is that I'm going to feel like I'm going to feel like
Starting point is 00:19:01 because I'm I'm at a person that has some problem of a health mental, and at the
Starting point is 00:19:08 more this person is if they're that they're that or if if the duendes
Starting point is 00:19:13 play with or if the phantasm of her oldie's a visit all the night but you're
Starting point is 00:19:19 the first that's the time when when you're doing these things, that's happened, the experimentes at the
Starting point is 00:19:25 time, you're you're there's a person that they decide to be
Starting point is 00:19:31 a way conscientious to to the reflectors because nobody they'll
Starting point is 00:19:38 believe. Exactly. Although they're the evidence And just what you do you say,
Starting point is 00:19:42 Fepo, I, as I'm a first story, it's been incredula. I said,
Starting point is 00:19:48 no, here is being being doing it and he's that I'm but in the moment
Starting point is 00:19:52 that you say that you're what's what's what's I can hear it,
Starting point is 00:19:58 and maybe not they're not the but it's that that
Starting point is 00:20:02 that presence that she's something with this person
Starting point is 00:20:06 was quite a very extrana. As you know, in a occasion when
Starting point is 00:20:12 when you were in I was in I'm sure that I'm mentioned a about the end of the
Starting point is 00:20:17 end of and it was I've been quite private, no? She had not said
Starting point is 00:20:24 nothing of my embarazes and no, it was not a pancita
Starting point is 00:20:27 when I went to when I went to see a back, it was we're
Starting point is 00:20:32 to get us to a moment and you get to me He, he said, You know, he says, You're saying,
Starting point is 00:20:40 You're going? She didn't And he said, Why? And I said, is that my my children me are saying.
Starting point is 00:20:48 That if you're embarrassed. And I, I'm, I'm in shock in that moment, because, precisely that day I
Starting point is 00:20:56 I said, I'm going to tell to my my amy, no? And, before that I said, you're not, and my
Starting point is 00:21:04 kids, you're so, when I'm I sit and I'm I'm saying I'm very strange. I said that
Starting point is 00:21:10 me did a question I'm I'm sure I'm sure and I'm saying I'm going to talk to this and we're not
Starting point is 00:21:15 we're saying and say I'm saying they're like very contentos my children says for your baby
Starting point is 00:21:22 and I'm so I'm like it's no it's it's not it's where I know it's that I'm
Starting point is 00:21:28 that many I'm that many have been when the questions that when the people have
Starting point is 00:21:34 a person when the people have some entity is what is what's confunded with the clarividence, no, with questions because these entities
Starting point is 00:21:42 are the ones are the ones that they're in this, this option. Yes, so they can see things that we're not,
Starting point is 00:21:49 because for to start, we don't know, we can't, or, well, we can't, but not in a manner
Starting point is 00:21:54 natural, so, wow, oh, what, what great story, well,
Starting point is 00:21:58 what good stories. Now, here, the other part. Yes. No, no,
Starting point is 00:22:04 see if you it, I'm sure I I'm perfect. And you seeras
Starting point is 00:22:07 and you okay. I'm a question. Because I'm going to me still okay.
Starting point is 00:22:18 You're you want to a story that does much a lot or you want to start with
Starting point is 00:22:23 a story that does much inquietude I'd like Fepo that you can
Starting point is 00:22:30 start to be to be I'm going to be I'm very very
Starting point is 00:22:35 Very good. Yes. I was debating which should be this. This story is my
Starting point is 00:22:45 little visitant and the man to our friend Manuel Spider. No Spider Spyde.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Okay. Well, he's called Manuel. He is of Leone Guantajot. This
Starting point is 00:23:00 story occurred after three years. Exactly and I three years and I don't know if I have a little relation but
Starting point is 00:23:09 his story comes with an event difficult for any person because he took to buy a house he decided to buy a house to start a new life because just he just he was just to have to divorce
Starting point is 00:23:25 then then he's to a new house that repito that he'll buy, that he'll buy this casita and in that house, to the he's
Starting point is 00:23:34 going to he he, he, a decu a space a a quart
Starting point is 00:23:41 with a a and you know, you know, the room,
Starting point is 00:23:46 things for his thing, I'm that in the moment in the time that
Starting point is 00:23:51 the visit, then, obviously, and very well, then, well,
Starting point is 00:23:55 he would his space with his things, and the other
Starting point is 00:23:59 part, evidentement, was was the Manuel. In this house, no I have
Starting point is 00:24:04 to describe, you can't imagine, a passillo, two-quarters, baths, cell, a commodeor,
Starting point is 00:24:10 the and access principal. When he to get to this house, he said that,
Starting point is 00:24:16 although it was a comod, sincere, there was something that was that he
Starting point is 00:24:23 immediately thought. I think to be to be to that, well, I'm going
Starting point is 00:24:29 to get a of a sudden, I mean, for the other now I'm to do not to be
Starting point is 00:24:32 a new, well, that's that I'm that I'm that I'm not a thing that
Starting point is 00:24:39 and it's anything. So, decide simply ignore that that's feeling, that's
Starting point is 00:24:45 that's that the time. Dice that in the noches, the inquietude was a
Starting point is 00:24:50 major. Because yeah, when I was only in the room and was the
Starting point is 00:24:56 lightas, that had a notation very interesting. No know why. But since that is very
Starting point is 00:25:03 little little dark in total obscurity. No, he doesn't. So, so, for
Starting point is 00:25:09 example, in his room, there's a lamparita that has a light very tenue for that obviously
Starting point is 00:25:16 not, no, it's not he doesn't in the dream, but he can be in
Starting point is 00:25:20 total dark. And also he also the light of the kitchen
Starting point is 00:25:26 preendida. Because if If you can't the night, I want a water, I want to go to go to
Starting point is 00:25:30 the bathroom, then there's a lot that's a light that he's not a light, tenue in
Starting point is 00:25:37 his abutation, he's to doorme, but of immediate, I feel that other that's
Starting point is 00:25:42 extraneesa, but now is only the extraneesa of that something that's
Starting point is 00:25:48 rather, but more more than, he's like, like if someone he's
Starting point is 00:25:53 so he He, he has he's trying to do not, and he he's like, he's there observing. So, with the poca-lust that there, decide like, no see,
Starting point is 00:26:07 at the more, discover a phantasm, no? He, like, observe his around, and he noted in that moment, that in a
Starting point is 00:26:16 corner, in the part of a little, something, something, but even he says that he quits
Starting point is 00:26:24 that totally the dream because for a moment that that that's
Starting point is 00:26:29 immediately you know, no, no, I'm the imagine. Oh, so, a caray,
Starting point is 00:26:36 between the penumbra, you can't assure that that's what that's what did you really
Starting point is 00:26:41 happened. He's he's got with this inquietude in that first night.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Then, some nights after once, then you see, and then
Starting point is 00:26:50 he's he's inmediate and it to turn to to the point where some
Starting point is 00:26:55 the night before saw a move and there no there's like a
Starting point is 00:27:01 person and he said he's a pass he he's
Starting point is 00:27:05 even with a door and when he he he he
Starting point is 00:27:10 he he he he he he he advanced
Starting point is 00:27:16 but rapidly and he and he he and
Starting point is 00:27:18 he When he He's Hegel Immediately He thinks It's real There's real
Starting point is 00:27:27 There's a But he's not He doesn't In a dweening He not He not He doesn't In all of
Starting point is 00:27:35 This type He thinks For the Tamaio But not so small As a Dwean
Starting point is 00:27:42 He, oh He He He He's He That's the Spirit
Starting point is 00:27:46 of a A A-Nio a that probably he's he's
Starting point is 00:27:51 he he does a fear of the dark and that he's
Starting point is 00:27:57 to his his his because there because there and there
Starting point is 00:28:02 and it is sure there why I do this because
Starting point is 00:28:07 in various occasions he saw to that a sombra
Starting point is 00:28:12 to go and to get to the court
Starting point is 00:28:15 of his he said that the movements of this ser were chaotic like not in line right
Starting point is 00:28:24 it was like zigzagged but me detain go so very rare very rare like if
Starting point is 00:28:33 not so I don't know he was not he was very very
Starting point is 00:28:38 very very very he was to hear even even
Starting point is 00:28:41 even even could be more more more And he was quite,
Starting point is 00:28:44 I'd to hear the the those, the those, he's he was
Starting point is 00:28:50 he was he was rather, but at final, well, there was, he said,
Starting point is 00:28:55 he, when he had, like he had the light, pardon, of the
Starting point is 00:29:00 kitchen preendida, he started to this. So, at a a
Starting point is 00:29:05 time, in the night, but he felt like this spirit, he'd
Starting point is 00:29:11 had in the the room of his his little he'd get a little bit of
Starting point is 00:29:16 a glass with water he'd out of the court and he I'd hear about
Starting point is 00:29:22 going to the to the to the way to he'd get a he'd
Starting point is 00:29:28 he'd he'd notable that there was he'd get to get to
Starting point is 00:29:34 running to when he he'd get to when he he'd he's
Starting point is 00:29:38 to get to to get to this recorried that this
Starting point is 00:29:42 somber of the fourth of his his his way to the room
Starting point is 00:29:46 and when he was he was at the time to that
Starting point is 00:29:51 he he got to get that the the the the
Starting point is 00:29:56 not he was not not not that he
Starting point is 00:30:01 when he he he was he he was he he was
Starting point is 00:30:06 he was he had had even he in those
Starting point is 00:30:10 days the house, they were moved and not they were they were they were
Starting point is 00:30:17 disordered like if someone had had used with the other so it was very clear
Starting point is 00:30:21 so he he was he was he was to get to this presence of this
Starting point is 00:30:29 actually he is where is where I don't know what I'm
Starting point is 00:30:35 a night she He's He gets to take water He gets to
Starting point is 00:30:44 He gets He goes to The door Pasta Possible To the Cosa He
Starting point is 00:30:50 He's He's He's He gets to The Cuisine He gets So it's
Starting point is 00:30:57 Cereve his water He's He's He's He's He's He's
Starting point is 00:31:01 He's He's He's He's He's He's He's He's
Starting point is 00:31:08 He's He's of something. It's there, in the way, in the
Starting point is 00:31:16 kitchen, because he he left that night the light of the kitchen apagated.
Starting point is 00:31:23 But you know, with the time, your house, then he he did
Starting point is 00:31:27 know that the light of the light of the silhouette that's
Starting point is 00:31:32 in the celluette, but front to him, you know, try, I'm
Starting point is 00:31:38 going to bring the light, all He'll talk the man with the
Starting point is 00:31:46 wall without the silhouette and action the interrupter the light of the the kitchen
Starting point is 00:31:55 then illuminate a little to the entity he illuminate like from
Starting point is 00:32:02 the muslo to down a little to the right to the part of
Starting point is 00:32:09 the top the silhouette in obscurity and he be the extremities
Starting point is 00:32:15 inferior not they're not they're they're they're not
Starting point is 00:32:26 he when he saw he felt tremendously intranquil
Starting point is 00:32:35 what he thought he was a little was another other
Starting point is 00:32:40 thing he he he he he was that
Starting point is 00:32:46 was he he he he he He costed. And at the day
Starting point is 00:32:52 next he put the house in rent. He moved to other place and the house
Starting point is 00:33:01 they ran him he decided that simply this that was that was that
Starting point is 00:33:09 was he was he was a man who was a dwe or a
Starting point is 00:33:16 chene or a no know but a time after
Starting point is 00:33:22 the new arrendatari he He sent the next message with urgency and I'll
Starting point is 00:33:29 I'm He said Hello I'm I'm I'm sure But, I'm
Starting point is 00:33:36 saw something I'm My my son said that a little He's
Starting point is 00:33:41 behind the house Anoche we We've We've We've he
Starting point is 00:33:45 And he's He's We're We're We're We're What
Starting point is 00:33:52 What? What? In his moment he record those patitas and only
Starting point is 00:34:00 it's that's enticid because in reality not be something that the new arrendatarios
Starting point is 00:34:07 have the precaution to leave a light a light that that that
Starting point is 00:34:16 and in really you're you're really you're really yeah with this
Starting point is 00:34:22 description imagine to have to be to be to be to be of water and observe that
Starting point is 00:34:28 someone that not is of your family or if you live solo, like in the case of him, is a person, that's so far as well. And that's human. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But what, what I was that was human. Well, that was a man who had perished there. So it's a
Starting point is 00:34:44 cheneke, right? Sure, that's all sure. And more, when the arrendatario
Starting point is 00:34:48 he says, there's the clasp, there's the clave, no? And, And fiftate that now that you've been
Starting point is 00:34:58 ultimately living, themes in, in, not fervantes, but when you're the observation that this person see for the door that something that something, I was I was editing
Starting point is 00:35:12 the madrugada. It were almost the two and a half, three of the morning, and just to me there's the light out of where my recamara,
Starting point is 00:35:22 and clearly I saw how something about it. No, I just spantarmes because I'm
Starting point is 00:35:29 saying, I'm suggesting, I'm doing a video of questions of stories of terror, and I said,
Starting point is 00:35:34 I'm to put me the audiofoen and I edit them, I'm completely the actual
Starting point is 00:35:39 and I go to and I keep looking and I'm going to see, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:35:46 go to then it's an animalito or something. I'm I'm and
Starting point is 00:35:51 nothing. Nothing, nothing. So I said, I'm I'm going to suggestionar because I
Starting point is 00:35:57 had been a little that I've been a little, and he had said, and he had been a
Starting point is 00:36:12 little bit of a person, but he's a human, but it is a demon. So I'm to suggestionar me for all this.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I remember what Christian me He said, no, it's moment of to doorme, I'm gonna'clock and I went to get audeauphonos, and I was to do it, and I said, it's
Starting point is 00:36:31 it, it's a few days that this so I'm gonna, then I'm just, like, to check what is what is what is happening? For that this not make more grave? You said what you could do?
Starting point is 00:36:41 No, me said that we'd say we'd say some getting some things strange, for that he said, that he said, I'd say, it's
Starting point is 00:36:49 would be a good that you I know of those those things but this but at least my person I confio
Starting point is 00:37:00 confio plainly in Christian yeah me has demonstrated with his words and actions that says
Starting point is 00:37:07 the truth and that's very difficult in this media it's super difficult there's
Starting point is 00:37:13 there's that you endulsa front to the camera and are meant and they're and to
Starting point is 00:37:21 continue with those is Mentirass, and then one, Lamentably they get to believe, and
Starting point is 00:37:26 the actions you know, that's that's the only thing is the money of the people,
Starting point is 00:37:32 you know, they're they're in the things, let in the cards, what you want,
Starting point is 00:37:39 and not, and then they're and then then you say, oh, but when one has
Starting point is 00:37:44 a time, to who can acus, no? And I do you do directly, well,
Starting point is 00:37:49 I'm always, because I'm, not molest to my mom. But I acude with Christian. And and me is
Starting point is 00:37:58 very impressive. How when he does something, for example, function. Yeah, and it happens things. I mean, I'm saying, yeah, I'll tell you a lot of this. I'm going to send him a morgue to them to see what I'm going to. And, of
Starting point is 00:38:11 a repent, me's going to beck, and he's met to someone. How, Chris? You know, no, no, no, no, no, there any. And I'm like, no manches, how can you How can't do you? It's like the ones that you're talking about, that you know, when you experimented, you say,
Starting point is 00:38:27 what? And wow, me seems very impressive. Pardon me. No, no, no. It's that is that fortissimo and I'll tell me. Then, I'll teller after, what has passed with this situation. And we're to talk to Christian. I want to talk about FEPO, a story that we're talking about Merea Davila, is a quite
Starting point is 00:38:48 and as you told us a strange, because for the regular, I don't know if you know you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:54 that's all the stories of duendes chankees have been with children and it's rare the
Starting point is 00:39:00 occasion in that the case, not I mean that's not say, but it's very strange.
Starting point is 00:39:06 For the regular, they're they're always they're this story that Mirya us called
Starting point is 00:39:12 the Ceres of the Magay. And I I'm going to to tell, the truth, I'm impact
Starting point is 00:39:17 because the person to the person to do this is the papa of her. She says that in your
Starting point is 00:39:26 family existen stories strange, relatoes that are passing of generation
Starting point is 00:39:32 and generation and that until the day of today, they're to be to be
Starting point is 00:39:36 this story that she has this about us to talk to us about
Starting point is 00:39:42 him, of his father and this story that still he still is still provoking
Starting point is 00:39:47 scalofrios a past of that you have a time that's his
Starting point is 00:39:51 father is camp a he's he he's he's
Starting point is 00:39:56 a question to cultivate the elixir of the
Starting point is 00:40:00 pulke and for suppose also also he he
Starting point is 00:40:04 he he then so in an occasion this
Starting point is 00:40:08 sir he he he he he forgot to go to get a cooomel.
Starting point is 00:40:14 It's he did because there were some people who had been there's and they're
Starting point is 00:40:20 in the plattics, between the trough, conviviening, so it was the time,
Starting point is 00:40:24 we got to know the hour. So, then it was to be to be a and all
Starting point is 00:40:29 you know, you know, you know, well, you know, you're going to be a
Starting point is 00:40:33 good that you're not you're going to the man was a little marred, and no, he
Starting point is 00:40:40 he's going to say the he's case. He said, no, I'm going to go to go to
Starting point is 00:40:42 get, he's the night. No, see you have done that you're not in
Starting point is 00:40:48 occasions, a past that we're there are noches dark, and there are nights that
Starting point is 00:40:53 are clear. So, so it. So, and this occasion, that night was very
Starting point is 00:40:58 dark. And they said, no, no, you're let's here,
Starting point is 00:41:03 and we know, but the sir, no those He said, he said, I'm going, because I have to
Starting point is 00:41:08 comply with my job. They're around at the 8.30 of the night when he took his things and he's going to the terrain.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Still, she recorded in that moment the sound of the door when he said, just when the door
Starting point is 00:41:27 it's kind of the environment with this incomodidididate that nobody will be to see or or something,
Starting point is 00:41:34 I mean, we're like, we know, we're doing, so we're she's a question, something,
Starting point is 00:41:40 something, something was, that's not, but the sir, he said, no, he's not,
Starting point is 00:41:45 we're going to do we're going to, not, so not, not we're going to be a
Starting point is 00:41:50 matter, they're, they're going to, and it was, and it's he's,
Starting point is 00:41:55 and it's he's a strange, the us because they're, how is that's going to do this
Starting point is 00:42:01 is that say a diario. I mean, you know, you know, to do, go, do it, and he
Starting point is 00:42:06 does it, and he was a time, it and it's a lot of the time. And,
Starting point is 00:42:11 of a time, the phone and the telephone and the mom, go and they're
Starting point is 00:42:19 they're they're they're so they're her so they're so, she,
Starting point is 00:42:25 she said, at the time, and she said, and she said that, he's
Starting point is 00:42:31 what he said, and he only said, "'Ven for me, for favor, I know where I'm "'the first "'the woman' "'in'clock
Starting point is 00:42:40 "'because no "'said was "'what was "'what was "'to be "'What's "'What's? "'What's that
Starting point is 00:42:46 "'and says? "'And says "'This woman "'that, "'they, "'he's just "'ah "'that was
Starting point is 00:42:54 "'to only "'beying a "'of the mom "'that was "'pulled, "'and she'll "'Culled "'It's,
Starting point is 00:42:59 "'and dodard-dard-old. "'Dus, "'I'll for my husband, I have to go to go, I know what's going to
Starting point is 00:43:03 know what's going. It's going to without. She's she's going to
Starting point is 00:43:08 go and the he's going to say, no, I'm going to say what that's going about, obviously,
Starting point is 00:43:13 thinking in questions of an animal or something. When she she,
Starting point is 00:43:18 she's a mom go to the land for the land there, obviously
Starting point is 00:43:22 Magais, they're getting to the place in where he was the he was
Starting point is 00:43:27 the He is Elola's Sanger. His papa was up a penca, a maggie agarraught so,
Starting point is 00:43:35 like, with much a lot of and was a badid, and he was like, it was like,
Starting point is 00:43:42 it was like, and was lastimating, for supposed. Sure, she was being
Starting point is 00:43:47 they were and they're saying the she's, hey, what's, what's, what's,
Starting point is 00:43:52 and the man, and the question, no, no, I'm going to be there,
Starting point is 00:43:57 so He was with a fear He was with a He was around Like, Who is they? No, there's anyone here,
Starting point is 00:44:08 but, but he's his that a Pesire that there she, she sentia something
Starting point is 00:44:16 in the ambient. No, know if it's suggested or something, but I'm that something
Starting point is 00:44:24 that, there was there, and not the wind, you know, it's he's
Starting point is 00:44:29 a little and it's that's there's he's he's he's got to
Starting point is 00:44:35 get a and he and he he said, but he he took, so he's he said
Starting point is 00:44:41 here I'm here I'm here back you say she she's she's like the
Starting point is 00:44:46 something that something and the something and the so like and he
Starting point is 00:44:51 he's he bache a tambalal a little like he was a little
Starting point is 00:44:55 he was a maryaditit to be Then he's He's back and all, but still temblando. And he said the
Starting point is 00:45:01 She's the She's me want to turn He's, they're They're Who's they? They're They're
Starting point is 00:45:06 They're just here And he says Yeah, Goaltea, Tankilo Siguen't here or
Starting point is 00:45:12 you're not And the And the He's And he He says, No, yeah not
Starting point is 00:45:18 They're But creem I, I was and I'm And those I'm They're
Starting point is 00:45:23 They're They're They're They're I'm The She said, "'Talcohol,
Starting point is 00:45:30 "'vammonos, "'and decided "'partied to "'there, "'he, he "'sa brought to "'asue "'as' "'that night
Starting point is 00:45:39 "'claring "'in't "'tough "'and said, "'that the "'Cheneke "'se-you-you- "'to-save to
Starting point is 00:45:46 "'and so "'Stue "'and, "'and since "'This, "'he, this "'Sir, "'he,
Starting point is 00:45:52 "'he, "'he, "'the-one "'to-one "'to-go-one, "'to-go-so, for the because he does much
Starting point is 00:45:58 a bit to find to find out to find out even being adult, as I'm so it was
Starting point is 00:46:07 quite what this this is he wow, poor-sito and is that it's like if these
Starting point is 00:46:13 entities you're submerged in a reality, not? Exactly. So you you just you
Starting point is 00:46:18 can you all you can't see and it's and it's and it's that
Starting point is 00:46:22 the majority of occasions it's like if they were idos, like if were not,
Starting point is 00:46:29 that no, that no, that no, that's because they're spanked, because they're being there,
Starting point is 00:46:35 the mind of her dad was a said, of the fear, he was he was aterrado,
Starting point is 00:46:41 so I'm I'm not, I'm imagine how much that was so for the person, to be
Starting point is 00:46:45 only in this place in this listening this, as to her and she
Starting point is 00:46:49 and the story and his wife, to live it after of,
Starting point is 00:46:53 no? And, and, also, the inquietude to know that there's a lot, that I'm important to what you said in a principle, it depends on how you know, but it's a little wonderful. He saw something marvellousal. He saw something that are visible
Starting point is 00:47:11 generally to the human. Exactly. For sure, that our condition human, that we're saying, from there, no, exist, no, exist, no exist, no exist, no exist, no exist, no exist, and no exist. And never asked us, why do you say, because is that no existent? Simply, accept that,
Starting point is 00:47:24 When you see, actua that part of, me going to protect. You impact, clear. Like if they were to do something bad. Because if the people have seen a penka of the Magay, or so, brinkar and a ferrarts a penca of the Maguette, you'll be lastimar certainly the hands, the skin, the rope, but securestim. So, imagineate how much fear you sent you.
Starting point is 00:47:45 To see, to the penca. To be able to the penca. Exactly. No, yeah, it was stuptu. and I think these experiences in where these are you
Starting point is 00:47:55 feel like this way, that's what I talked about at the beginning, there are occasions in that are the
Starting point is 00:48:02 stories negative and other positive, but the Lord, he took to live something that in
Starting point is 00:48:07 reality, as you do you know, we know, we know, we're really that were these
Starting point is 00:48:12 things, a little not it was the fact to lastimarl or at the not, not,
Starting point is 00:48:16 not the fact, not it not know we know but like
Starting point is 00:48:21 as we did you we're just we're we're just we're not used to that they're
Starting point is 00:48:26 not there and that's not you know that you're because you know so that's
Starting point is 00:48:33 experiences also they they're they're I'm so I'm I'm not I was
Starting point is 00:48:37 I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm going to you're going to talk now
Starting point is 00:48:43 that that we're good and malo, I think it's only a
Starting point is 00:48:55 moment in this moment, in this species, the human because if we're that, for
Starting point is 00:48:59 example, that, hilly, maltreater a animal even, although you're
Starting point is 00:49:07 you're not, you're that's a lot, I'm, they're with their food,
Starting point is 00:49:14 until that the plan now no support more more, and they they're
Starting point is 00:49:19 they're very to the ratones and the iguanitas and the insectos, but the cat doesn't know that's doing a damage. It's a naturalist. So,
Starting point is 00:49:29 talking of the species human, we can't understand something that's different, maybe in these entities, in the chaneques. Now, this story, like,
Starting point is 00:49:40 so, like, disclaimer, for that you know, in a word, is called, Perdidas in the Bosque,
Starting point is 00:49:46 and the man to our friend Catalina Ibarra. Figgat She's She's She's of Nicaragua
Starting point is 00:49:52 Wow And we And we I'm going I'm going to do something to what has been
Starting point is 00:50:01 to the Cheneques only that here in Nicarahua to the Chenekes and to
Starting point is 00:50:06 the little we're we're we're all, we're this is an
Starting point is 00:50:13 story of chanke's. And that the part principal to her when has
Starting point is 00:50:18 of age. I want to understand that now, well, no I want to understand that now have passed decades of this
Starting point is 00:50:26 story. Okay? Well, in the place in the place in the story, when she has
Starting point is 00:50:33 when she has 12 years, is when she live with her mom. It's a public that is a
Starting point is 00:50:39 parted that's near, let's, in a vehicle you get in
Starting point is 00:50:45 rapidly, in minutes maybe, to but, as as far obviously,
Starting point is 00:50:51 of the mar, then these venas that are in rivers or lago, in some
Starting point is 00:50:57 cases, and just this poblado in the river is the river is a one side. So,
Starting point is 00:51:06 basically, you're from your house, you're in the rio. Well, in that
Starting point is 00:51:12 when she has two years of and that was living with her mom, it was
Starting point is 00:51:17 common for them, at least, despertarse at once, at the 4 or 5 of the morning. Generally, it said at
Starting point is 00:51:25 the 4 of the morning. They were they were all ready, took their things, and they were
Starting point is 00:51:32 to go to and they were to lav the rope. Okay? So, then, well,
Starting point is 00:51:39 they'd to go to that hour, because just at that hour was much more easy because no
Starting point is 00:51:44 there was there, let's, let's say, you know, you're just, you're like, you're all right, lav's the rope and all this, and you're going to, your day complete.
Starting point is 00:51:57 In that river, to get to your house or the gasas to the river, there are two forms. One is for the way that's been forming with the
Starting point is 00:52:08 pass of the time of the people that that's over there, and that is to a a bushcet and then you get to to the river, and
Starting point is 00:52:15 on the part in where the lot of the car of the or or you
Starting point is 00:52:20 can you can't you can't it's a road like a line
Starting point is 00:52:25 right that that it a short for much for
Starting point is 00:52:30 much the distance but the people say that
Starting point is 00:52:35 one doesn't to not to enter to that there
Starting point is 00:52:42 are there they they they abitant duend and
Starting point is 00:52:44 these duendes that abitan in that's they're not that are not that are
Starting point is 00:52:50 good but they're they're they're in the respect of their
Starting point is 00:52:55 space and the if you not you know those your
Starting point is 00:53:00 space the natural you they're to robar the
Starting point is 00:53:04 time that is what they then then that they're
Starting point is 00:53:10 they they're they they're they five of the morning.
Starting point is 00:53:14 And when they're coming and the mother he says, we're going to take the
Starting point is 00:53:18 sender of the bush. Because it's we're a little time and
Starting point is 00:53:23 we're going to get a time. Well, she said, okay. Recorded
Starting point is 00:53:28 in that story that more is like a legend, that's that's
Starting point is 00:53:33 that the duendes abit that the cendero and they robin the time,
Starting point is 00:53:38 she remember a story that is like a a legend of a man that
Starting point is 00:53:42 She was a barrageo. Who knows why? He met her the sender, but no took respect. Well, I suppose that maybe decided to put the water in an arbor.
Starting point is 00:53:58 No, I don't know. But the man disappeared. And appeared many years after. And it's a legend. So,
Starting point is 00:54:09 So, she simply to see a her mom in the way. And conform they're going, they're even even they were talking they're going
Starting point is 00:54:19 and they're doing the two, without say, that they were, that's heard, so,
Starting point is 00:54:29 passes different to those of those of them. He's, he's different of his passes, these passes
Starting point is 00:54:35 were like sooves, but they were to listen to hear it like an animal that when
Starting point is 00:54:42 when it's natural not quivered the the plants but it's more suavecito it was
Starting point is 00:54:49 something that she said that she said she was she was like ignore but after that they started
Starting point is 00:54:56 to hear rissitas first were they're like like and then much more
Starting point is 00:55:01 more more more more more those risas but yeah
Starting point is 00:55:09 not it like I think it's sonning something it's
Starting point is 00:55:15 and the and the and then she felt because she looked to look to look to
Starting point is 00:55:22 look at like there someone like people or something
Starting point is 00:55:27 that they were and she was to get but super
Starting point is 00:55:32 nervous she was she and she she he
Starting point is 00:55:36 He said that something came down and then inmediate in his nuka a rissita and he said
Starting point is 00:55:47 that with the risa he sent you as to the bow and that was and that was the
Starting point is 00:55:55 the aliento of this being was the was he was he was he sent you in the
Starting point is 00:55:59 no and in that when he when he when he so his mom
Starting point is 00:56:04 she She took her in the hand so the he gotro like to not she were to
Starting point is 00:56:10 get her and he's to come in a fast God's God, God, Jesus,
Starting point is 00:56:16 Mary, Jesus, Mary, and the Lord is with you and she did she
Starting point is 00:56:20 uner to the oration, but no could be she was she was so nervous
Starting point is 00:56:26 I, he was so much he had so much he was she satem of
Starting point is 00:56:31 she atore he was and then the only that was the
Starting point is 00:56:35 It was to press very the hand the man of and try to go to go to but then
Starting point is 00:56:43 he started to feel like some some of the like they they'd the drop the back
Starting point is 00:56:48 the trying to do to make that's but her her but her
Starting point is 00:56:54 put the hand with a lot of and
Starting point is 00:56:59 they're they're they're they're in the moment of the sender
Starting point is 00:57:05 the boske and they were the rio, all the rizzas, all the
Starting point is 00:57:10 sonnions of pass-tits, they were inmediate. And they were espantaditimas because
Starting point is 00:57:19 there was a very rare. The sun, that should be able to be out was at the
Starting point is 00:57:27 zenite. It was at the morning. For them, were a question of
Starting point is 00:57:35 minutes, but had Hours. Yeah, no lavarer the Roppa. They were
Starting point is 00:57:42 inmediate and the busking to the back. He said that when entered
Starting point is 00:57:47 in the house, the first he did his mom was sat and and he
Starting point is 00:57:53 resos without for hours. They were super asustated. She
Starting point is 00:58:00 that night took pesadillas or nothing that was like,
Starting point is 00:58:04 a normal. I go. It's obvious that you were to have a lot of the experience that you that's up
Starting point is 00:58:11 it's really that's a question of that's but it's a little it was a thing that
Starting point is 00:58:19 was a really a some message or relevance pesadillas when went to the school
Starting point is 00:58:26 and then he he he said to a amygos and when he comes
Starting point is 00:58:31 to other adults no they nobody he they they're they to their mom because basically
Starting point is 00:58:40 me is telling that they're in the dwindes in that sender of the bush where the legend of the man that disappeared for many years and then appeared. It's a legend and nobody else
Starting point is 00:58:54 they're. Well, they're like they're much fear and they think that at the more of those duendes or chaneques is, she could have been
Starting point is 00:59:04 kind of like as they're you know that's that's they're they're
Starting point is 00:59:10 with a woman an exian of the woman. This woman is a curandera
Starting point is 00:59:14 is the curandera and she she's she's they they're to tell
Starting point is 00:59:19 to this woman that has these these know these and don't
Starting point is 00:59:25 supernaturals they they're they they're to this this
Starting point is 00:59:29 woman has that they that no they're because if in effect
Starting point is 00:59:38 there are there are the duendes but these doendes only
Starting point is 00:59:43 are travios they they're they're they're roband the time
Starting point is 00:59:51 and only at torment and their games they're in something
Starting point is 00:59:57 when the people not have respect for them or for
Starting point is 01:00:02 the natural. They're more tranquillas and they're some those orations
Starting point is 01:00:07 antivus that they have to reza and then the samerio and they constructs
Starting point is 01:00:14 some mules that are made those amuletos and they're a lot of hot
Starting point is 01:00:21 and resos no so you are you all you're so you say that in effect
Starting point is 01:00:26 she she like she's like a she Disminue. No, they're Rises,
Starting point is 01:00:32 nor passes, or in y'nitas, nor do you any, no, with all the certainty of that they're
Starting point is 01:00:39 well. But, constructs a new legend. A new a new school, not was a
Starting point is 01:00:48 companyer, that he was a story, he was very valiant and he ventured.
Starting point is 01:00:59 The The issue is that in that that the new disappeared. No. The only that's that's
Starting point is 01:01:08 that's that's the respect adequate to the sender of the dwindes and
Starting point is 01:01:16 after now that have passed decades still still without the question is will
Starting point is 01:01:24 they're going to come to be that you It's a important that
Starting point is 01:01:34 know that they have to respect to the spaces. So, like you do you know, and not
Starting point is 01:01:40 more in questions of the Chenekes or of the duens, you well, you know, when,
Starting point is 01:01:45 for example, it's, you ask, a cemetery, there is to have to the repetable
Starting point is 01:01:50 with the things, all the way, to them, they're not the naturalness, they're, the,
Starting point is 01:01:59 the water, all these questions, for that they're called they're
Starting point is 01:02:03 so they're not a so they're like they're like they're like they're so you go and profaned
Starting point is 01:02:10 your place your place that's a sacred they're so that that's incredible
Starting point is 01:02:16 history yeah, yeah it's very, very good and that really
Starting point is 01:02:21 the second legend, like it's a second legend but it's a there's a thing
Starting point is 01:02:25 there's that just for example the the, the, the
Starting point is 01:02:30 thing, the new, it's construed in legends, maybe a through of experiences
Starting point is 01:02:35 reales like the of her and maybe are the other things sort of, well,
Starting point is 01:02:41 to get there, I'm a bad experience, or principally that
Starting point is 01:02:47 they're in the space of the natural and the duendes, no?
Starting point is 01:02:50 At the most. As is. How fertes are the stories.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Right, I'm to talk a story that's called the Hombrette of the sombrero.
Starting point is 01:03:01 This story us, it's a great idea. It's a interesting because to her when she
Starting point is 01:03:07 was a little. She, when she was a child, us told that approximately seven years,
Starting point is 01:03:16 I used to move much because for questions of the mother, because not they were
Starting point is 01:03:21 not a whole time, no, so they're they're in a occasion, for here I have the
Starting point is 01:03:27 name to a community called Tecali Derrera in the state of Puebla
Starting point is 01:03:32 there she said that they're and decided to be able to a house that the the owner
Starting point is 01:03:39 was a man kind of kind of the the people were that this
Starting point is 01:03:45 man had made a fact to the real to have to be
Starting point is 01:03:50 to have power and many other other things so So, neither her mom,
Starting point is 01:03:55 nor she, nor her man, because also also had a brother, and they were there. They were
Starting point is 01:04:00 attention to this. So, they were like, ignore it, and, well, are things that are
Starting point is 01:04:04 things that they're doing, so they took an important to this that the people, the people
Starting point is 01:04:12 had been said, it was a way a way and normal until that night, a night
Starting point is 01:04:18 that mark to this child, in the that was the the next. He says that
Starting point is 01:04:24 she recall that he had muchissimas going to go to get to say,
Starting point is 01:04:30 oh, you know, you're not be able to do you don't know, but you
Starting point is 01:04:33 get to the fact that you don't want the time, so there was a problem.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And, that's a great problem because the bathroom because the bathroom, so,
Starting point is 01:04:44 approximately one of five meters, he said, I had much me to
Starting point is 01:04:48 get to get to get to get to the in the morning in the madrugada,
Starting point is 01:04:51 no, so I'm to say to say to my mom, I'm coming because I'm not
Starting point is 01:04:56 I'm going to go to go to say that's the mom says, it's a bit,
Starting point is 01:05:01 let's get a bit down, they're in the house, but she was
Starting point is 01:05:06 to go to get to a baby, a little a year of seven years it's it's
Starting point is 01:05:10 in the madugada it's free there's there's you know that you
Starting point is 01:05:14 know that you see imponentes all. And apart, there a passillo between two houses that she
Starting point is 01:05:24 had a lot of that she'd he'd and he provoked this sensation of scalofrius, no? But,
Starting point is 01:05:30 well, I'm to go to go ahead, and I try to do do it, and I'm trying to
Starting point is 01:05:36 I'm thinking that I'd I'm just, I'm just one of the more rapid that's so you can't,
Starting point is 01:05:41 no? So, she doesn't, she'd go to his mom and when she says,
Starting point is 01:05:46 well, now, now, I'm here to here after because go to
Starting point is 01:05:48 to be to be the ban. She said that she kept like, well, yeah, I'm going,
Starting point is 01:05:53 I'm going, I'm going to get in cucklilias to be in her mom. But the sonos
Starting point is 01:06:01 of the water, all this scenario that she was being was
Starting point is 01:06:06 aterrador, he said he said that he's going to go to all the and just his mind
Starting point is 01:06:12 so the passio that you the pastio that she had been fear. He kept
Starting point is 01:06:19 seeing and clearly saw a a sombra a small with two points rogous.
Starting point is 01:06:27 See those two points rogers and I began to feel scoffrions. This
Starting point is 01:06:32 little was a black and he were in the points rogos like eyes
Starting point is 01:06:39 and he had a armherer to a anche he was he was he was
Starting point is 01:06:43 a lot and so the most aterrower was that when me he said
Starting point is 01:06:50 he was he was to beaux a exboz a smile while me
Starting point is 01:06:54 he said no me was a minute and he started I'm
Starting point is 01:06:59 I'm I'm and said and as you you know you you
Starting point is 01:07:03 mentioned there there there there makes that you
Starting point is 01:07:07 don't make so she she she said in
Starting point is 01:07:12 that she said he's But her but her body no reaction about. For more
Starting point is 01:07:19 that she wanted to get to move. When she his mom and does the the room of the door
Starting point is 01:07:26 of the is how she reaction and she says her mom now, now she let us
Starting point is 01:07:30 and she go ahead and she and says to worry because he has much fear.
Starting point is 01:07:36 That night she he got in the camera with her little because
Starting point is 01:07:39 he had had fear to so so the camera of his brother.
Starting point is 01:07:48 And he said that the other day, after the school, now is decide to to tell her
Starting point is 01:07:53 mom. Mom, you know, what's what you know, but her mother's
Starting point is 01:07:57 your mind. She's, tranquilla. No, it's no no. No.
Starting point is 01:08:03 So, she said that this that had passed was real, that not
Starting point is 01:08:08 her was your imagination, that in really he had passed. And also
Starting point is 01:08:11 also did know that this was the initial of something more
Starting point is 01:08:15 oscuro in his life. Oh. After of that the
Starting point is 01:08:19 life of her began. First, her vis-a- was a woman
Starting point is 01:08:26 that she was a woman, and she was and fellesio. I wanted
Starting point is 01:08:33 to her, but not they got to a time to
Starting point is 01:08:35 talk to her so to her and some
Starting point is 01:08:39 few days after one of his tios that was
Starting point is 01:08:43 that He was a goodieged, also He said. For her, it was a moment and what the first that
Starting point is 01:08:53 was a time. He said that she said that she said, and he said to the mother,
Starting point is 01:08:59 she said, she, she, she, he, he, he, he has,
Starting point is 01:09:02 he remember perfectly how see a his child and
Starting point is 01:09:07 and do you do a brother very fraterno. Oh, no manches. Also,
Starting point is 01:09:12 of that she heard in the he said, I'm going to always be with you and with your brother. She was the
Starting point is 01:09:20 first time that lived a so, or some contact with the other other side, and it was a
Starting point is 01:09:25 quite, but it's that's a sense of, what is what happened? But, a part of
Starting point is 01:09:33 there, they were to pass to many more things extra-strainess. She's in occasions were to
Starting point is 01:09:39 to get to his-a- and she had fallen to her ex-abweller and she when she was there
Starting point is 01:09:44 in the camera, clearly felt how someone was there was always he was the eyes
Starting point is 01:09:50 for the fear, but then then I felt like he took about a way very tender
Starting point is 01:09:56 and also and also it was so I'm I'm I'm my abuela and
Starting point is 01:10:03 I said my abuel, and I said my from the obscurity. So, I'd try to
Starting point is 01:10:08 tranquilize. Also, in occasions she'd not even that was the that's that they were,
Starting point is 01:10:15 I'm, and I'm many things raras, and they had to pass to her. But when
Starting point is 01:10:21 she said to the other, no, they'd not he'd and in a occasion also,
Starting point is 01:10:25 also, he said, he came a her mom to a school in
Starting point is 01:10:29 a school, and in that school they were even after time. He saw one of the
Starting point is 01:10:36 sillies and rechinable. How all this was going quite strange and he said, what I
Starting point is 01:10:44 was going to me? She knew. She knew that it was her imagination. Sin however,
Starting point is 01:10:50 there was something that was that was to see to to be to the sombrero.
Starting point is 01:10:56 She said that after that he saw that he saw that he began to
Starting point is 01:11:01 do it And, and I'm and past the time she was she was a adult,
Starting point is 01:11:07 she went to live a lot of sometimes she was he present to the person
Starting point is 01:11:11 of the and he and he he said, and he still that nobody more
Starting point is 01:11:16 was there could a lapicero and he says he
Starting point is 01:11:22 says, and she he does he's really and the most rare
Starting point is 01:11:25 of the is that in one when when she he took to
Starting point is 01:11:28 go to to go to go to go to his house, the people the same the way,
Starting point is 01:11:32 that for a music, that for he had a that was doing
Starting point is 01:11:38 that was doing that's she's my what I'm, what's what's that you
Starting point is 01:11:44 think that you're saying, so that she's he's so she's like she's so,
Starting point is 01:11:49 who's who's maybe they're to get to me to get to me something,
Starting point is 01:11:53 but there never. When she she gets no he doesn't nothing. So,
Starting point is 01:11:59 he said all this to one of his friends that was that's a little bit of this time.
Starting point is 01:12:04 And the kid he says, you know, you know, I have the contact of a person that you
Starting point is 01:12:08 can't that you know what you is what you know, I think, and I think you
Starting point is 01:12:13 know that's your imagination, and he said she's a time, and effectively the person and he says
Starting point is 01:12:20 that not is your imagination. That all what had been being had been
Starting point is 01:12:23 things because she had that no had developed. So the entity
Starting point is 01:12:30 that she was, what was was to make a fact of her. For that's
Starting point is 01:12:36 that he had left before being a and she and he was going
Starting point is 01:12:40 and that in that that could try that that
Starting point is 01:12:47 he was he said, you need you you need
Starting point is 01:12:51 to make many things but But, lamentablement she no
Starting point is 01:12:55 he's he's he he said, well, yeah know, he's,
Starting point is 01:12:59 but she no, so he knew the he, and this was imporando. She,
Starting point is 01:13:06 without explanation, he's to get a bad, of the person, he's put
Starting point is 01:13:13 very bad. So, he's, I'm to move, and maybe be the
Starting point is 01:13:17 place, the where we're going to do, and it, to move she's
Starting point is 01:13:20 she's she's she's but with her mom but she she can
Starting point is 01:13:24 pass more things. She no encounter the place
Starting point is 01:13:27 in no place she they're they they talk in the
Starting point is 01:13:32 little but it was a little little little little so
Starting point is 01:13:37 they can some and you know that's what's
Starting point is 01:13:40 that's that was in a second piece No manches. No, there was
Starting point is 01:13:45 a way of that someone could be a window so, like as she was there, how will
Starting point is 01:13:52 be sombras and there no way there was no ballcom for that was that was that was
Starting point is 01:13:58 was very spantada and she she said that the manifestations that were more,
Starting point is 01:14:07 also he was he was in the times, in occasions not could do not he was
Starting point is 01:14:12 occurred quite to her until the moment, he said that was when she
Starting point is 01:14:16 was a daughter she's she was a night and they're going to go to
Starting point is 01:14:23 the night and then he said he he said he he said
Starting point is 01:14:28 to look and he went to a place and he was the little the
Starting point is 01:14:33 sombrero just in front of her she she was she said she
Starting point is 01:14:38 what I'm what I'm what I don't know what happened because only seemed like that something absorbed
Starting point is 01:14:44 his energy and I see that she were all right I'm completely dormied, I said I know
Starting point is 01:14:49 knew what I'm but the morning next when I when I when I the scapulari that I
Starting point is 01:14:56 had to San Juan to do in my coo was at my my camera
Starting point is 01:15:00 like if someone me would have had got to and he had
Starting point is 01:15:04 had been so me so me very very extra and it because who
Starting point is 01:15:09 who And my mom, when I'm when I'm when I'm going to start not going to be happening nothing to this. In that moment I intend to tell to my novio
Starting point is 01:15:20 all what I'm going to say when I'll say it's when I'm the door of my recamara like to
Starting point is 01:15:28 call me attention and I hear clearly in my o'h it was it was like
Starting point is 01:15:34 it was like I'm that I would say to nobody what to me me was passing.
Starting point is 01:15:42 To the moment, I want to tell to you know what to do you, I know who can't go through, all this
Starting point is 01:15:47 me still passing. And what the worst is that I'm just that's almost commences. Sure,
Starting point is 01:15:55 that has done since that she's a little, that's, I'm sure that has. I consider
Starting point is 01:16:02 that the dweendecito that that wants to doendecito, like you do you do you do you,
Starting point is 01:16:07 we're those who we can control to those who are that's I'm going to have a lot of
Starting point is 01:16:15 a lot of a lot of that's not all the he's something, he'll do want to
Starting point is 01:16:24 get a good in their benefit of, care, if you you don't you know
Starting point is 01:16:30 acceptes who can who can't help to me to me to be in the mind
Starting point is 01:16:35 that you can't you can tell ye but specifically, or Talje, for the theme of those dons,
Starting point is 01:16:42 for you know, to be able to help us, if it were I, and I'll, and I'll do, not,
Starting point is 01:16:50 not, to do it, to be to train, not do you, no, does. So,
Starting point is 01:16:58 I, you, I, personally, I, I, I'd contact to Talje,
Starting point is 01:17:03 and the truth is that is a job, where I have to study, have to learn a lot of
Starting point is 01:17:09 books, have to learn to make things like to meditate and canalize etc. For you can you
Starting point is 01:17:13 pulle and detecting what is what you can't do you understand that all what you
Starting point is 01:17:19 see and more not it's like, oh, only going to be a beautiful
Starting point is 01:17:23 not you're going to be what there what there and one has to decide
Starting point is 01:17:28 it's a is an is an an officio complex no is that that is
Starting point is 01:17:33 that is that you say the idea that the see the
Starting point is 01:17:36 see the Mient. Cuitable. For that is to be much careful. I would have to be a much care. I think you
Starting point is 01:17:43 could be able to another. Yes. Well, I also think that Christian is a good option for
Starting point is 01:17:50 that the guide in this way of the spirituality, also for that she know, to get to
Starting point is 01:17:54 where to do it, and then maybe, to go to get with the people and
Starting point is 01:17:58 that he he'd say, maybe if you have some some things with her
Starting point is 01:18:03 some maybe if there is the and that they'll help them to do
Starting point is 01:18:09 to the light and not to the questions oscures. And that you can't keep keep
Starting point is 01:18:14 that's important because a much people that when they say wow, what good,
Starting point is 01:18:20 you know, you're the capacity of what you want, they're in the piece. Sure,
Starting point is 01:18:27 no, and apart a point of the what she want, exactly. Because
Starting point is 01:18:32 many people also people also no, I don't want. No, I don't want. So, I think the first that you have to do is decide,
Starting point is 01:18:41 to be, I'll accept these don't, or I'm going to rejects, because also I'm, I'm going. For sure.
Starting point is 01:18:48 I would suggest to the next, before you accept or rechasar a don, first, he's, that's the universe,
Starting point is 01:18:55 for you know, that's a person, so you're that's not that's a important. That's very important.
Starting point is 01:19:01 The, the better arm, the better the better the more The best that you can't obtain in this
Starting point is 01:19:09 experience is the knowledge. The knowledge to open the doors and the world and see the
Starting point is 01:19:14 you desire the so you have much reason. No, of the you have to take the
Starting point is 01:19:20 don't that you did. Also, you can't say thank you but... No, I'm
Starting point is 01:19:27 not I'm not I'm not really, no, I'm like a other thing, I'm a
Starting point is 01:19:31 lot, I like the care of this. But I'm what's the time to know to know
Starting point is 01:19:37 to know, or you're to use, no, but you know, you know, but you're because it's
Starting point is 01:19:43 very interesting to your story. And much thank you. And much. It's a series of
Starting point is 01:19:50 things. Wow. And one, one, one, one, a question of two,
Starting point is 01:19:53 while narras the story. Yeah. I know that's the way to say, no,
Starting point is 01:19:59 I'm saying, but when when you said, that was waiting her mom
Starting point is 01:20:03 and he in the passio in the two the door of the part of the
Starting point is 01:20:08 somberito in my imagination I saw and I'm that I know why I think
Starting point is 01:20:16 in the grittittites that's I'm I don't get me to the mind
Starting point is 01:20:20 those really I'm so I don't see if you don't
Starting point is 01:20:23 don't because there there but no no I'm so if
Starting point is 01:20:28 it's grab or maybe just if me they're
Starting point is 01:20:30 saying me Okay, but Abran your microphone, if you want I'm a question Those gritty Those grits that were You're still?
Starting point is 01:20:39 Or was something Natural? But those They're not? Oh, I'm sure That they're Very clear.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Very clear Those were Some Even those Like, Like, like me Dioes
Starting point is 01:21:01 extrano It's weird Yeah, It was a Okay Okay Okay, Okay,
Starting point is 01:21:05 I just I'm just I'm sorry That's I'm sorry That's It was a Paco
Starting point is 01:21:10 Oh, Oh, for the cellular. Oh, I was to say a little, ah, me to tell me to tell the story, right?
Starting point is 01:21:18 This story is called Guardians of the Naturalese. And, well, no,
Starting point is 01:21:23 no, no, doesn't say who, but is an anonymous. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:27 I'm going to pay a favor to the community of insomnia. For
Starting point is 01:21:31 favor. This story and the next, me interesting, I interest much
Starting point is 01:21:35 to know, what is, I'd would to do an investigation.
Starting point is 01:21:41 This story occurred in a little city of Veracruz. I know that's very difficult,
Starting point is 01:21:48 but maybe someone may be to say with this data,
Starting point is 01:21:51 that we said our person, he said, she said, it's, it's the first
Starting point is 01:22:00 people of America Latina. It was funded by an slave African
Starting point is 01:22:05 that went to the cost of Marfil escaping of the
Starting point is 01:22:09 Port of Verre Cruz. He was refuge in the mountains and, and he was the people liberer to other slaves,
Starting point is 01:22:17 and there was established this people that now is the place of many people wonderful.
Starting point is 01:22:24 If you know, where is exactly this this town? Me, it in the comments,
Starting point is 01:22:31 I want to go to this public and do this public and do you. Now you
Starting point is 01:22:34 see for what? Figate. We just does a notation, without, to make to the
Starting point is 01:22:41 other to other other, other, he said, they're there's there
Starting point is 01:22:45 are amazing of Catemaco. You I'm I'm sure Fepo, that my
Starting point is 01:22:51 people guard stories more sorrententent and us narrs one,
Starting point is 01:22:57 that, that's an experience vivid. We know a little context
Starting point is 01:23:02 that is what I make feel that curiosity of this place. It's,
Starting point is 01:23:08 I'm going to narrate this and then we're going to the dweens. Okay? It's very important.
Starting point is 01:23:15 If you know what is this place, you know, but if you know, let's give a pause
Starting point is 01:23:20 in what you're doing, see, the eyes, imagine this place in that time. Obviously,
Starting point is 01:23:28 for the form in the place in the people, is full of traditions, religion,
Starting point is 01:23:35 that are from Africa directly primarily the religion Yoruba the that practica
Starting point is 01:23:43 no well, well, yes, Yoruba, is that are two, but Yoruba.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Here is Yorua. Dice, for example, that is like the religion principal. When
Starting point is 01:23:56 nace a baby, I don't know all of these things, when he was a
Starting point is 01:24:01 baby or the is given the leader or the leaders, and the ancients, those who are tremendously
Starting point is 01:24:08 respected. What they're is that this new member of the community, these ancians and the leader, they're doing
Starting point is 01:24:17 their bestion. They'll learn the future and then discover if that person that's being now to
Starting point is 01:24:24 now the community possess some a don special. We all we can't
Starting point is 01:24:30 but maybe can be a Don special. It's a ritual of protection that not not functioned
Starting point is 01:24:39 only for the recent-nacid but also for the descendency that have in the future there in the
Starting point is 01:24:45 people. They're like consolidating that protection, generation to generation. They're like some of
Starting point is 01:24:52 baptisms, says, that the people, but, he's and he has a
Starting point is 01:24:58 much and much emotion to their recent are they're born-nacides, every generation, oh-o-do,
Starting point is 01:25:06 no-se-perpetual in the power, every generation have new sabios. These sabios, ancians, have the obligation to help
Starting point is 01:25:14 to help us, robes, brujeries, and possessions demoniacas. The ancians are tremendously respected.
Starting point is 01:25:25 They can discover if a child or a child has a spiritual, what you said. If it's
Starting point is 01:25:31 so, they're to oriental them when they're those those parents of these
Starting point is 01:25:37 these recent-nacid are they're they're to inculcals to give values,
Starting point is 01:25:44 ensignances over plants, fruits and the gratitude to the natural
Starting point is 01:25:49 because if posse a don special and you you're to form part
Starting point is 01:25:54 it's like the the law the the you're you, you know
Starting point is 01:25:57 you have a have to have to have much gratitude for the naturalness, you have to know these things that are so essential, because of some form, of form spiritual, you can't give to imparting justice. It's important.
Starting point is 01:26:12 So, us tell another thing. Yeah, when the people of this place, get at the start, feminine and masculine, I think they're very well, to the children,
Starting point is 01:26:26 well, that not are children, are adolescents, that are in this desperat of the adolescence, they're in this ancian,
Starting point is 01:26:35 for that continue his next stage of formation. This, independently of the school and
Starting point is 01:26:39 all this, we're talking of a formation spiritual from the first you know, let's say,
Starting point is 01:26:44 in this desperer, to learn the web, the coffee, the pure, the water, the bells,
Starting point is 01:26:53 the caracoles, or the cards, depending of the don't that you you have made
Starting point is 01:27:00 I refer to the special. All we have a don't. So, then you can and you
Starting point is 01:27:05 decide and you do you feel like more, more, more connected to do for doing
Starting point is 01:27:11 to do this lectures. Then when the young have their period, so he
Starting point is 01:27:17 has a ceremony special where it's present a under the
Starting point is 01:27:22 Dosa Luna, the which they call Mama Luna. His
Starting point is 01:27:28 The blood, a Cuenco, the a muchach a woman, she's
Starting point is 01:27:34 a color of the woman, and it's a coroner of the family, abuela, and in
Starting point is 01:27:44 that ceremony only assisten women. These women who assisten to the ceremony to give
Starting point is 01:27:49 the welcome to the women, the mother, Mama Luna, are people,
Starting point is 01:27:54 these women, who acuden this ceremony, that have faculties of clarividencia, adivination,
Starting point is 01:28:02 despondiment, or another don special. It's encene an oghera, is arrojointed, yearbas of odor, and much salt. Then, the bloods with aguardient and it's and it's
Starting point is 01:28:15 with the credence that a drink of that a drink of this sand with apardient and what is occurring fortaleces the dones compartidos. Then the
Starting point is 01:28:28 young, the young, continue learning about the nationation with the manos, that is like
Starting point is 01:28:34 the second pass, use of the yearbas, asaites, and if they're
Starting point is 01:28:39 one of these speciales, they're to practice them, for example, what we know,
Starting point is 01:28:45 what we know we're like, we know, all this is with the purpose
Starting point is 01:28:52 of that these people, now with this entreatment spiritual can then help to
Starting point is 01:28:58 the community to defend to other people and conserve the equilibrium of the natural and in
Starting point is 01:29:06 some moments for them for them to get to not the leader the leader well has okay
Starting point is 01:29:13 has to have a leader a leader's but to get to one of these
Starting point is 01:29:17 ancians or one of these ancian or women with dones
Starting point is 01:29:22 special for them is the maximum. It's something incredible. The fact, when the ancians,
Starting point is 01:29:29 that are part of this group, we're in people who have done specials and are in the
Starting point is 01:29:37 part of the same, that are like those who imparted the justice, they're aparted
Starting point is 01:29:41 in cuevas for them. During the day, they're parted a house very great
Starting point is 01:29:47 because they're that they're for decision not they're not so those who have
Starting point is 01:29:55 don't terminally specials and they're to do for decision proper not they're
Starting point is 01:29:59 with them this don't special for that can't another person that not that's
Starting point is 01:30:05 that's a very very interesting well it's that there's one of the most
Starting point is 01:30:11 complicated that's the call the bellada nocturnes there in these
Starting point is 01:30:17 in these programs when you those that those that have done speciales receive
Starting point is 01:30:22 in cargos of persons that have problems of brujeria, malditions, possessions, demoniacas, or cases of persons
Starting point is 01:30:32 disappeared. Invokan spirits that they are they give them and they reveled the damage or if the
Starting point is 01:30:41 victim is notient that's spirit that is invocated is studied three nights
Starting point is 01:30:50 consecutive If you get the information To runper the malifficio Localize the responsible Etcetera It's a thing Incredible Now
Starting point is 01:31:04 When you When you're You're going to be Aperningsa to be a person With the don Yeah with the supervision Evidentement of a Guia
Starting point is 01:31:13 commences then to help to the community And to other people that need He said that in his case, her mentor, that was the curator of the
Starting point is 01:31:25 public and had an ample dominion of these faculties, was her own. In that case, she was in this tap intermedia and had 14 years of age. There was where
Starting point is 01:31:38 lived his first encounter with the duendes. He said that, obviously, so are people normal, no? Like I'm like I, and since chikitos,
Starting point is 01:31:47 chiquitas, then you're to listen the story of the dwinds, and that if they are bad, and that if are good,
Starting point is 01:31:52 and that's, you know, the legends, the stories, all the of the new we know, we're
Starting point is 01:31:56 in a little, but what she experimented that was so real that even in this
Starting point is 01:32:03 community, can be totally their perspective of the life. Totally. Totally.
Starting point is 01:32:08 It's said in a area near the town, there, there, there,
Starting point is 01:32:12 a tree and there, and there, and there, is that's alojaed the madrigueras of the duendes.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Now, junto to that arbor, as you in a principle, live a woman. That woman says that has
Starting point is 01:32:30 a aspect of aisculated, the cabello of trances and in the cabell has rams
Starting point is 01:32:38 and this woman is super amable, everyone does, her house is very
Starting point is 01:32:46 and, even a even is very very is very is very very well very
Starting point is 01:32:51 very is a very is a disorder absolute not I'm not I'm
Starting point is 01:32:57 saying she's disordinated she she she comment this
Starting point is 01:33:02 woman because everyone she said what she's she's all disordinated
Starting point is 01:33:08 and and he said and I say I'm that they're not
Starting point is 01:33:12 a disorganated disordinated, like if that lampara would be over the and the
Starting point is 01:33:19 table and the the wall were in the piece and this, uh, uh, disordinated.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Disordinary absolute. She said, because the people say, because the people say, it's that's not worth the thing to
Starting point is 01:33:37 accommodate nothing. Because my little are very travisos. And every Martes, when I go to buy provisions,
Starting point is 01:33:46 my little, the duendos limpian the house to his antio. He said that the only that was it was a city was, it was the quantity that and attention for all those that
Starting point is 01:34:02 people who are asked if they have duendes in the quantity so much of semillas of girazole that had in the piece. And this woman, when the
Starting point is 01:34:13 note that she is observing the monotones of Girazole, you know, pelados and completeos, he says, it's for my little, it's
Starting point is 01:34:24 for the duendies. They're they're just they're and you know what is her babya favorite?
Starting point is 01:34:31 He says, what? And he he's seenal some valdes that are in the piece and
Starting point is 01:34:36 different places. The water of the water. It's his
Starting point is 01:34:41 baby favorite. If you you see those and you let's the seeds of the gyrasoles
Starting point is 01:34:45 they're they're in the water of the water of the water of you know it.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Well one one one day every this this
Starting point is 01:34:55 woman visited the people and go provisions and
Starting point is 01:34:59 he he's and he's and it does very to the
Starting point is 01:35:03 people second Marches and no he no his
Starting point is 01:35:10 I, I repito, was the curandero and the mentor of this chick, she also. And the abo'uble
Starting point is 01:35:17 and he says, Accompany me, we're going. Then they go to that that's a house of this woman.
Starting point is 01:35:25 And they're saying, and we're recollectamos some nanchas. It's a fruit. That's
Starting point is 01:35:30 for a car. Well, they're, and when they're to the house of this
Starting point is 01:35:35 woman, they're they're in that she's she back. He said that
Starting point is 01:35:39 he's been but he was very nervous and she and he they're asking what's what's
Starting point is 01:35:46 you're what's what you and so in your nervousism the woman
Starting point is 01:35:50 she the is that came there were many people of the
Starting point is 01:35:58 community back here to my terrain but I not was I had I had
Starting point is 01:36:04 said and I'm not so these young for curiosity or but
Starting point is 01:36:12 they were to make the hands in the madrigueras and these
Starting point is 01:36:16 spant and they were and to defend they were they're those
Starting point is 01:36:20 mordier these these chos they put very enoged
Starting point is 01:36:27 they were so were they're enogated with the duendes
Starting point is 01:36:31 that they had mordid they'd and they're used, and they're used the tunnels with nearer and water and water. Dejaro, they're not going to be able to do. A-sehs, they were to geter to the rio.
Starting point is 01:36:58 Other seres that were there also they also they're from Ceres from the mountain he's
Starting point is 01:37:05 they're from the river and they're they're they're they're not they're they're
Starting point is 01:37:17 not where that's a much that's in effect a man a man had disappeared of the
Starting point is 01:37:26 people and the people was obviously super nervios no they're
Starting point is 01:37:33 they're not they're they're what was what was they're they're looking
Starting point is 01:37:36 to this young and, obviously, the friends, who were those were the were arrested
Starting point is 01:37:43 also, immediately they said, hey, explain us what what was, let us, where is this
Starting point is 01:37:50 man, and you said, yes, what was that, and so, and so, and so,
Starting point is 01:37:55 and so they were, and so what was that, and, and so, and,
Starting point is 01:38:02 and they're to, and, and they're, and, they're, a chis, an
Starting point is 01:38:07 that they would say that they were that they were to talk. If they were, oh, no to say, communicate what was what happened, they were, so they were.
Starting point is 01:38:18 So, then they could say that was what had been and the whole entire was confused what we're
Starting point is 01:38:25 going to do? How is impart justice in a case in a case so? Some days after,
Starting point is 01:38:33 fuff, appeared this manch man, Apparceo, the young disappeared. When
Starting point is 01:38:40 appeared, he was he was he was desnutried. Two two years
Starting point is 01:38:47 was disappeared. When they were and they started to tend, and they
Starting point is 01:38:54 started to eat and to do you was very very
Starting point is 01:38:58 very and he was very asked. What was what was what happened? No, I wanted to be and when I was he trawable the language or she was he said that she had
Starting point is 01:39:18 he presencised this and it was like very, very appantallied, you know, of what he had passed, of what he told, but that day she saw a newnde This woman, the woman of the trances, the ramsaces in the
Starting point is 01:39:37 hair, he said, Come with me. No are not bad. And they were to the madrigueras. They're. And the woman met her the man with delicadeza in one of these madrigueras. Pekechews, I'm. Come.
Starting point is 01:40:02 come with me and of and he he set his man like a like a like a
Starting point is 01:40:11 like something he said and he said he styr your man she stiro her man
Starting point is 01:40:20 this woman put the man the hand the hand the hand the other
Starting point is 01:40:27 he was with the other hand he was with firmness He said, If you
Starting point is 01:40:34 want to your man, it's your and she he's he's old.
Starting point is 01:40:40 And in that moment she said that she in the palm of her hand,
Starting point is 01:40:45 he started a cold so, ardor and of a little
Starting point is 01:40:50 something something like if a little he was he was
Starting point is 01:40:55 mordient and he was he opened the Pune. No Poole. And when
Starting point is 01:41:02 opened the Pune, and when a moment he was a figure little humanoid
Starting point is 01:41:10 with a wrap made of mantle pantalong camis and a rostro
Starting point is 01:41:18 an old with a body this being was she was
Starting point is 01:41:24 she was when she opened the when she opened She looked to and he
Starting point is 01:41:31 he went and he started a veracity that to her she was a she was
Starting point is 01:41:36 a parpadeo like a like a like a rio said that when she saw that
Starting point is 01:41:42 she met you the eyes were the light of the the
Starting point is 01:41:47 emotion he he was he he was when when it when it
Starting point is 01:41:53 when this woman he did a a pune of semillas of
Starting point is 01:41:58 a she was she was she said she said he had a new
Starting point is 01:42:03 in the garganta was much the emotion that he put in the
Starting point is 01:42:07 entrance the tun and he he said thank me
Starting point is 01:42:12 for not my intention lastimart you I don't you
Starting point is 01:42:16 just I'm when I'm when she was the second way
Starting point is 01:42:26 he said he had to have pan and tortillas to a house where they were to celebrate
Starting point is 01:42:31 a feast. I went in that moment with the hejado of his parents. So, it was at the night and decide,
Starting point is 01:42:40 oh, with this, I'm sure, that's the story. A-be- who, who not this, that is, not quite,
Starting point is 01:42:47 but it's very very similar. Decide to take a tachou, crossing a rachuel, although there
Starting point is 01:42:54 a risk, because, for there was there was a it wascurecicia rapid. Before to get to
Starting point is 01:42:58 the cause of the rio, he top got to a man that was a little
Starting point is 01:43:05 peteing pietras and grittal. To them he was like, oh, what on
Starting point is 01:43:11 with this sir? But this man, that was a man, in reality
Starting point is 01:43:16 not was not was coming to them to he's and being
Starting point is 01:43:19 and and and and it's when when of the
Starting point is 01:43:23 be to her with this other man, he, palido, assustated, and he says, Cuitado!
Starting point is 01:43:32 No, no, not go ahead. There are there. And they're dancing to the
Starting point is 01:43:36 and they are playing the little bit of the people, not passen for there. And so,
Starting point is 01:43:42 and so, and then they're, we're, we're, we're, we're going to go to
Starting point is 01:43:49 go to not, we're not not not, we're going to come to come in.
Starting point is 01:43:56 He said when they are in the rachuel they're to start like a chopote in
Starting point is 01:44:03 the water and then they're some little some figures that's moving in the water.
Starting point is 01:44:12 They're playing and she was coming and she never was she deto and
Starting point is 01:44:19 those he's these serres he's the different the
Starting point is 01:44:24 He said, It was Wombers and Mughers Reying and Chapotea in the water His Cuerpos They were
Starting point is 01:44:34 Like the The Young Like the A person A young That's Like in the Cuspide
Starting point is 01:44:43 Digamos Athletic For so Say The Pell Burtos. The Piel, a PEOPLE,
Starting point is 01:44:50 and the A little of Ropa that They were very simple like the the people like the
Starting point is 01:44:55 people of the region. They were there when they were there did you know of the
Starting point is 01:45:02 presence of her and their and they turned to and when they were in a
Starting point is 01:45:10 movement rapidissimo they were to go and they're going to get behind
Starting point is 01:45:13 a piece he said she she she she
Starting point is 01:45:17 she not had no and no no he didn't he didn't
Starting point is 01:45:24 it, he didn't he was he was moving to move and then he
Starting point is 01:45:27 took a now so he he took a piece of pan he he went
Starting point is 01:45:33 he he went to the river he he put on the he was
Starting point is 01:45:39 he was he he said and he and these duend and these duend that
Starting point is 01:45:45 were they were behind the Piedra, commas somers and
Starting point is 01:45:49 and they were in the pan and they were to see that she she's that she
Starting point is 01:45:57 was sure between a sombrough and fear because they were seeing they they were
Starting point is 01:46:02 they were they were and simply went with this little and they were
Starting point is 01:46:09 and they're and they're and I know this not is a story of
Starting point is 01:46:13 terror but me I like much, much this story, because she's saying, The Dundes
Starting point is 01:46:20 not are characters of the characters of the naturalness, are spirits antivus, are reales,
Starting point is 01:46:29 and I I, the long of the time, I've that the doends
Starting point is 01:46:34 not are good or are justos. It's pretty, huh? Very, very
Starting point is 01:46:44 good, that interesting everything, all what she had to pass, all what what happened in the story, me I'm so,
Starting point is 01:46:51 it's a magical this, it's a magnificent, exactly, the place, and now I'm now I'm why you're,
Starting point is 01:46:56 I'm saying, where she's, because she's she, it's, it's, it's impactant, me encantant,
Starting point is 01:47:03 I'm excited, what? That, that, that, that, of, that he took the
Starting point is 01:47:07 duend in the man, the man, imagineate, imagineate, and also, and, the,
Starting point is 01:47:12 what she did, to make that he would be able to that he could be that would be
Starting point is 01:47:18 that would be that would be imagine you wow I mean it's super incredible this story
Starting point is 01:47:26 I just much much yeah yeah yeah it's excellent me it's
Starting point is 01:47:31 and well Fepo now I want I want to talk about
Starting point is 01:47:34 this story that that we we can we we're that
Starting point is 01:47:37 we we're we're we're the armol of manos
Starting point is 01:47:43 And, for So, that the title has allusion to these beautiful plants that
Starting point is 01:47:51 we know that are part of the hogares of the duendes of the cheneques.
Starting point is 01:47:57 When Axel had eight years, this is about 19 years back.
Starting point is 01:48:03 He he he was to be to his friends to
Starting point is 01:48:07 play in the patio of one of his name Iker.
Starting point is 01:48:11 It was a patio very great. It was a patio a little
Starting point is 01:48:16 to play to the public there's many vegetation there many
Starting point is 01:48:20 trees these these are enormous with raises gigante
Starting point is 01:48:24 and were they're trees of mango the place
Starting point is 01:48:29 was very really to go and and all
Starting point is 01:48:32 his people and all a the water um
Starting point is 01:48:35 hot mong Maduro. It was a scene that I imagine a lot of in the
Starting point is 01:48:42 houses of the abuelos. They loved to play to the place. But always
Starting point is 01:48:48 the night. So, in a occasion, they went to play to them to them, and they
Starting point is 01:48:54 were there and they were going to get to the trees, I was to be
Starting point is 01:48:58 to be, to be up, trep the arbos the buchos
Starting point is 01:49:04 arbos of the To him, in specific, to Axel, he was to trepard a tree that was just in middle of the patio. It was a large, his cortecer was aspera, and he had many rams
Starting point is 01:49:17 that were the, were the, they were those that were that were sitting there in the ram, no? Esperando to see how the
Starting point is 01:49:25 other was found. And me that also the child of the patio was the that was the I was with him. Cases
Starting point is 01:49:34 always were two together. And from them were in those other the rest of the
Starting point is 01:50:02 They were up, the risas, a little silencios because they were how the other were, expecting to find them. When, of a repent, something in that moment, changed. A crugid, soned in the obscurity.
Starting point is 01:50:17 They were, like, a little extra-dised, of what was going to, no? First, they were one of the other people who had, they had been found, no? They said, well, yeah, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:26 but they were stills listening like if someone Subier, like if someone Stubier Like if Someone was When they were
Starting point is 01:50:45 Then it was They're going to be a ram and the ramble. They're going to To make a little of And even more When someone When someone He bented some mango
Starting point is 01:50:56 So manches So they're They're getting like, to be, what is what is what's what's what's going to? It was like if someone
Starting point is 01:51:03 was there, but not they're there. And then Iker, he said, who's like this
Starting point is 01:51:09 so much so, thinking that was one of the people, no, there was
Starting point is 01:51:13 a question, the silence, was a question, nobody he said, then they
Starting point is 01:51:19 started to get a much, and he seemed to something something,
Starting point is 01:51:23 he sent you something, he sent to say, Axel, that he started to feel a
Starting point is 01:51:29 little pressure in his home. Like if someone it was a moment
Starting point is 01:51:35 but he he was it was a way to it was like to make the attention of Axel
Starting point is 01:51:40 he he'll and just when he he'll he'll he he starts
Starting point is 01:51:46 heke he starts ah he starts he starts he looks to see he can
Starting point is 01:51:53 he can get he there's on the the ram and when when he feet of Iker,
Starting point is 01:51:59 there was a manch, taking the tobillo. But he's that it was a man who's a little
Starting point is 01:52:06 he was going to the topio to and he was only being he was not knowing what he said, he's
Starting point is 01:52:13 when he's all pale spantado, desperated, he said, I don't know what was what
Starting point is 01:52:19 had to do you just when I wanted to tryon a lot that's a lot
Starting point is 01:52:23 quite in my camisetta like if someone was impiding to get me
Starting point is 01:52:28 my friend. So, with the terror that I'm going to Ikeh. And in
Starting point is 01:52:34 that moment he, he's the little and he and he and he.
Starting point is 01:52:38 Fortunately, not he not even was a time. So, he said Axel,
Starting point is 01:52:42 I've decided to be to be there down also also. Then
Starting point is 01:52:45 I go to him, and in that moment was the moment, was the moment,
Starting point is 01:52:49 it was a most a night. I look how
Starting point is 01:52:54 some some figures of the They were men's-o-one-a-cantimetres of high, they were quite small, they were, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:05 a little bit of a group and their extremities were long, but delgated, although, as far as their delgated, it was that they'd be yeah that had much force. The unas were
Starting point is 01:53:17 large, they were quite sucied, they were, they were socied, then, those rostros of these creatures were quite extrana, very
Starting point is 01:53:26 oscuras, the eyes were great and brilliant, and also they were more,
Starting point is 01:53:32 for the light of the moon that was in the moment. So, when I
Starting point is 01:53:36 saw that I'm in Ike, we're, we're, we're, and they all,
Starting point is 01:53:42 and they're to get to get to get to get to so. I'm in this
Starting point is 01:53:47 moment, and in this moment, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I chico, and I
Starting point is 01:53:53 I remember that my abuel me said, if you ever see a those the
Starting point is 01:53:57 mountains of the mountain, Volteate the Garra. He said, no
Starting point is 01:54:02 I thought any one second, and I grite. Hey, all, both,
Starting point is 01:54:07 boltens the garra. And I with much fear, scalofri
Starting point is 01:54:10 and I'm got my gortearm and I and to part
Starting point is 01:54:14 all my friends who were did the bolted the garra, and just we've got to put,
Starting point is 01:54:22 to put us, and just sombrecetka, so those homercytos, they were and they were going to be the profundity of the patio, to see, to where there was more plant, as where it was all over,
Starting point is 01:54:36 and they were, and they were, because we know we were to go back, said, maybe they were to get, they were, they were, they were, they were,
Starting point is 01:54:43 they were, the silence, so That we were very profound. All we were in shock. We didn't know what to do. Iker and I, we were not reactionable. D'Reepent,
Starting point is 01:54:51 yeah, when we're going to we're going, we said, we were, we knew, we knew, we'd have been, and, we went to, check out, to see, we don't
Starting point is 01:55:02 have any any of a good, and all right. All right, because not was very high at the ram. At the day next, I decided
Starting point is 01:55:10 to tell me all to my because I felt bad for all what had passed, and I know that was what
Starting point is 01:55:15 had happened. And she seriously, and without he said, he said, he said,
Starting point is 01:55:21 they're chaneques. When she said this, I was I accepted to a way positive because I
Starting point is 01:55:29 said, well, are entities of that she are in this
Starting point is 01:55:32 but so I'm to admit us said Axed that me made
Starting point is 01:55:37 much fear to having seen how they were to be
Starting point is 01:55:40 to have to get to who knows where it's. Since then, he,
Starting point is 01:55:47 uh, right, this was 19 years, yeah is an adult and still still still having
Starting point is 01:55:53 when he he'll he and when he's, that the ramas are moving because he
Starting point is 01:55:59 know perfectly when the ramas can't be the wind or when the ramas they're
Starting point is 01:56:06 because there are those things. Wow. I don't know that that if if you
Starting point is 01:56:15 don't know that if you but what description so interesting of the Channeques. How is? How is the physical of them?
Starting point is 01:56:25 That I think has coincided in various histories, no? Yes, and also we've been talking of Chankekes much in these
Starting point is 01:56:31 days. Yes. The one is the kind of an human, but no is. Still,
Starting point is 01:56:37 the duend is more like a human, with a head of bigito. No? The
Starting point is 01:56:40 body of a new little, but the Chankees are this. extremities more large of the normal
Starting point is 01:56:47 I don't know they're like humans but not the eyes are more like deforms more sinister more tenereousous exactly
Starting point is 01:56:55 super tenor the image of the dweend is more like that the chaniques if you get to give
Starting point is 01:57:01 in a moment certain the moment to see those in some in some sometimes dintes
Starting point is 01:57:09 afilados so it's it's a I'm a bit of a bit of a thing. Here, no, nothing more, so they've been to threaten. Yeah, we've learned that you
Starting point is 01:57:19 bolted the garra and they can go. Look, I know, I know, this is very rare, but if at a moment me pass something, you're going to do a garra.
Starting point is 01:57:27 The more is that I'm going to have to start going to start going to. Wow, what great story, eh? Invite
Starting point is 01:57:33 that's history to me. It's that was that I'm good, it's good. Is Anonymous or is she, did his name?
Starting point is 01:57:40 Yes, is Axel. Ah, yeah, Axel. Wow. Incredible, incredible, incredible. You're ready for this ultimate story?
Starting point is 01:57:49 Listisem, Fepo. Uff. I think you want to be much. Perfect, we'll hear. This story,
Starting point is 01:58:00 before that the story, before that I know, there's a thing that have in particular these entities.
Starting point is 01:58:07 And, in fact, when we think, we know, we know, we're a representation, for example,
Starting point is 01:58:11 of the dweende of In England. Uh-huh. Leopard Chan, no? Yes. The arco-iris, the oya with monas of gold, etc. I'll be asked, to what's
Starting point is 01:58:21 referring with that? You've heard of these stories of that as as they're, as well, as they're robes, or they're not, things like that. A. Sometimes,
Starting point is 01:58:32 they're done regalos? You've heard of that? It's the first that I've heard. In real? In real? I'm sorry?
Starting point is 01:58:39 I've heard one of a story. that they were that I'm not I'm exactly of what where this is in so from a thing that's rome. There's a woman, there's a
Starting point is 01:59:05 there something that's a lot of thing. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's it like, he has done. No, they're going to hear the and he's he was he was he was he was he went he
Starting point is 01:59:17 he went he went he went he went and he he was he he was fat he was
Starting point is 01:59:24 fatado totally but in other occasion he did a he was a and that
Starting point is 01:59:31 a a tirit of paper with numbers she he he said he he said you he said
Starting point is 01:59:38 he was to see the question of that if he he was in order, uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Well. But, no, he was the number of the lottery. And those numbers were the came here.
Starting point is 01:59:49 When he said, no, this, no, this, no, this, no, this had used the dweened
Starting point is 01:59:55 that was a personita, changed, he said, he was a little, was a little, he said,
Starting point is 02:00:01 and he said, he said, to runper things, the thing that had a thing that had a force,
Starting point is 02:00:09 was to see, the, And he said, no, you know what I've to do you have to do that I'm going to do. No, you know, I'm going to do. And he said, hey, wait,
Starting point is 02:00:19 these numbers are the numbers of the date of the birth of my husband and of my wife, and of my
Starting point is 02:00:30 children. There was, you, for example, I'm going to what date are you? 25. Okay, there's a 25.
Starting point is 02:00:37 So, me and you're all? And they said, and they said, and he said, he'd be pasted
Starting point is 02:00:41 and he had and the duende he he was he said well
Starting point is 02:00:45 the the real the thing they were they're you but you
Starting point is 02:00:52 got about the but the duend I didn't the what was the what I
Starting point is 02:00:56 was saying but was the pay why I did this I think that
Starting point is 02:01:03 that's the Leperchand that never you never you to
Starting point is 02:01:07 where is that that the stories of people that look at Lushes and it and it's
Starting point is 02:01:15 to look to look at the treasure of the Lushes and we did we just in a moment
Starting point is 02:01:20 with the theme of the don't if you don't give you don't
Starting point is 02:01:24 you know this this is an anonymous and it's
Starting point is 02:01:32 you know you you use some some this
Starting point is 02:01:40 person as a name appellees, I think can use or suppose that they're okay. In this case, I don't
Starting point is 02:01:49 those came. So, so that's it. We say we're saying that his name is U. And this story he occurred. When he, he
Starting point is 02:02:00 he, no, no, no, he has a 100% secure, he that he had eight years of age. In the place where he in the
Starting point is 02:02:09 state of Mexico, in the zone in that he is a area where the people have many carencies. It's very poor. And result that, we know,
Starting point is 02:02:23 very close to your house, I imagine that at the world, or atraz, or something, there was a park. In that park, well, there were children, young, adults, no,
Starting point is 02:02:37 of many eddies, but principally they were those who used football. He, as the children,
Starting point is 02:02:47 because never could play to play football. For him, because he had a good thing,
Starting point is 02:02:53 because he had in a state, well, no, no, no, there was
Starting point is 02:02:59 not done the luge to buy to a ball. Maybe a little a ballon, but
Starting point is 02:03:02 a ballon, no? And, then I had to I would have that other
Starting point is 02:03:06 children will a and that they're the time and that they're
Starting point is 02:03:11 playing the kids and they're playing the adultes. That day he he said
Starting point is 02:03:17 he said in some someone a person he gave not that
Starting point is 02:03:23 not that one a person he a person to a family
Starting point is 02:03:26 a a per a was a a that was
Starting point is 02:03:32 a I think he I said, well, I think he said a pastor Alman, but a pastor an exor. And no they're soldier. He was they're given. And there was
Starting point is 02:03:44 like a discussion there between the mom and the papa. Because no there's much money and then do you know how is this? But he, since he he was he, my perro, my perro, my
Starting point is 02:03:57 perro, my perro, my perro, my perro. And decided to leave it with the perro. The perro he put of the name Tobias. And he's in the
Starting point is 02:04:06 night, as the night, as he didn't get him, although the dog had to get him, he was going to
Starting point is 02:04:12 put him a mante and the man down to the camera, and the the perro was there
Starting point is 02:04:17 there there there, so that he was he was, and as he was able to
Starting point is 02:04:23 he was to play football, he went with his perro. That one doesn't
Starting point is 02:04:28 get to all the vacuums, but well, he he said with his
Starting point is 02:04:32 perritte. Salte with his perro and he was there in the park and literally he was
Starting point is 02:04:38 he was focused totally in the the pelota in that they were playing football he
Starting point is 02:04:44 he was much so then then he he he he he he he
Starting point is 02:04:54 and in an alcanteria that there saw he saw
Starting point is 02:05:01 some manitas, agarred of the metal and some ojitos that bright there
Starting point is 02:05:08 down. He said that in that moment he thought in nothing. Simply
Starting point is 02:05:13 was it was very, very rarro and he he was more or less
Starting point is 02:05:20 under the obscurity the little that was that those those were
Starting point is 02:05:25 like human were very dark and and not could
Starting point is 02:05:31 distinguish very the car only the brill of the light in the
Starting point is 02:05:34 eyes but that that was he said he said you're a good man he's
Starting point is 02:05:44 he's he sent he said with the head saying yes and he he said
Starting point is 02:05:52 you're a ballon and then he said he said he said much emotion
Starting point is 02:05:57 that he's he's he he he said he tryem
Starting point is 02:06:06 me dulces of those that most they like to do you be a good
Starting point is 02:06:11 he got to his perro tobyas and he went to his house he went to his
Starting point is 02:06:20 house and mom here I'm here I'm blah blah blah blah he's he was
Starting point is 02:06:27 he was he got to the kitchen he said he said he was he was he was
Starting point is 02:06:32 he was so maybe so like like like that was there papaloteing, like,
Starting point is 02:06:41 doing other things, and of a moment when the mom was distrago, he took some chocolates, that was the
Starting point is 02:06:49 sweet that he most he was the chocolate and he went, to the back to the park
Starting point is 02:06:54 specifically to the alcanteria. No, he was and simply those he just
Starting point is 02:07:01 there, there, pegatit to the alcanteria and he went to his house. To the morning next,
Starting point is 02:07:10 when he he was moved and he got to do you know that he had been to get over to get him
Starting point is 02:07:17 he went the movement and he he went to the down to the the camera he
Starting point is 02:07:23 he put he he rode and he behind to his camera there was a pelot
Starting point is 02:07:30 of football a ballon of football new and he he was emotionatism no he said
Starting point is 02:07:40 to his mom and his his papa simply wow I did some chocolates and me
Starting point is 02:07:45 a ballon a football he was so he was very emosionate then then the day next
Starting point is 02:07:51 in the at the toaddecer and he he sent to wait and he said
Starting point is 02:07:57 that of he said he was he was he again again again again
Starting point is 02:08:01 with the eyes brilliant and he he said You're a good boy
Starting point is 02:08:06 He's a boy Chichles Yes, I'm He got the chicles He was
Starting point is 02:08:17 He was He was He was another day because he said he said
Starting point is 02:08:22 he said and this that me that me that me he made he said
Starting point is 02:08:28 he he took to the never of the A change,
Starting point is 02:08:37 I received and and and in an occasion the his his
Starting point is 02:08:45 his his his his he had had had had
Starting point is 02:08:50 some years and he he he said he had been very molest
Starting point is 02:08:55 because he said something how is possible that that is possible
Starting point is 02:09:01 that's that he was He felt like that, he was just going to he was a chiquet
Starting point is 02:09:08 but he no he took but the dweened he helped to give to his his wife. Every
Starting point is 02:09:15 every he was he said the duend he said you're a good kid
Starting point is 02:09:21 you but but one day he he he was he
Starting point is 02:09:26 he was because when he was he was he was with
Starting point is 02:09:33 the hands vacies. And the dweened with those eyes he he said the dweens.
Starting point is 02:09:42 My mom said a question. Yeah, I can't bring you more and in that
Starting point is 02:09:48 he said he said, and he said, then I'm my more and me your
Starting point is 02:09:58 blood. He's a good man. He no he didn't fear
Starting point is 02:10:04 then then now so, and he He went and he went and he said
Starting point is 02:10:10 He said that night He said He had much Verguenza To tell to his papas what had passed Had been
Starting point is 02:10:18 He was He was He sat down He had to sleep And he took Pesadillas Evidently Also
Starting point is 02:10:25 He said That's That night He sent him He made He said He'd than the
Starting point is 02:10:30 usual In his Abitation And, And, of a sudden, he said that he said
Starting point is 02:10:37 a odor nauseabund that he wasp. As a asura putrefacta
Starting point is 02:10:46 in his room. So, he was made a madrugat it. It was
Starting point is 02:10:55 much frio. He was he back to the camera to know what
Starting point is 02:11:00 was when he took the he was on the floor, he said something very rare
Starting point is 02:11:06 in the plant of the feet. He was he sentio mojado and he said the
Starting point is 02:11:13 light and said he said that he said he he was lastimed the garganta deba there was
Starting point is 02:11:22 a car of a and orin of his perro Tobias disappeared he never
Starting point is 02:11:34 never knew to never knew that was what was the impactant That impactant,
Starting point is 02:11:46 right? And how it's because here yeah the
Starting point is 02:11:52 to his is Yeah, definitely I don't know what was
Starting point is 02:12:01 my favorite in those stories that me really it's
Starting point is 02:12:06 very very very very very so so tenbe
Starting point is 02:12:09 so and well I want I want to this chapter with a story that
Starting point is 02:12:17 me was fascinating because precisely it's been also with a park she's
Starting point is 02:12:24 she's and it's called the children of the park she she says that actually
Starting point is 02:12:32 currently has 29 years but what he occurred when she had seven
Starting point is 02:12:38 years still the torment to a d'grable that That night, commenced, like
Starting point is 02:12:45 any other, a night normal. She remembered that she went to put to put his pyjama. Her mom her man
Starting point is 02:12:52 made to to lavers the and get to do it. They were at the night.
Starting point is 02:13:00 When she went to her house, she got to in the camera and he
Starting point is 02:13:04 did a dream. The last that is that he accommoded on
Starting point is 02:13:09 the But, occurred something that night. Desperto the gulf. He was a rare, and when
Starting point is 02:13:22 assimil he was in his camera. He was just front to the door of his
Starting point is 02:13:28 house. And his little of a little of a little were at the security
Starting point is 02:13:36 of the door. She saw that was trying to open the door. So,
Starting point is 02:13:43 So, no, no, I don't, I don't understand how he had passed, I was a little because he said, I said, I was able to how is possible
Starting point is 02:13:51 that I'm here in the door of my house, how I got the escalers, without my never, I don't I remember of
Starting point is 02:13:57 nothing. Then, then he gave much fear. All the house was in silence. No,
Starting point is 02:14:03 he had nothing. But for this, at the other side of his house had a park. In this
Starting point is 02:14:11 park, as you, as you know, people were many people, many people were going to and there just in that
Starting point is 02:14:18 park, she heard, she's, some risas, some risas of the that was what he was
Starting point is 02:14:25 what he called the attention. That sound came out and she had not how,
Starting point is 02:14:31 but she was going, but she was that she was that she was going to see what
Starting point is 02:14:37 was going, and his deados were with much force to the passador of the
Starting point is 02:14:42 door, she had no could open and he did the impossible to open
Starting point is 02:14:45 that way to make to get to get to his house. And when she was trying
Starting point is 02:14:51 all this, he was clearly a man in his arm. She spant and he did a
Starting point is 02:14:58 question at her her she was a mother, he's, where you go?
Starting point is 02:15:04 She not responded because he said that something that something he had to
Starting point is 02:15:08 that She was just a little bit more if someone it would be impidia and he said that no had to say nothing
Starting point is 02:15:14 to say her mom her she went and he observed this is she was
Starting point is 02:15:19 she she was palida and your eyes and your eyes were just you
Starting point is 02:15:26 didn't even it was you're she was so she she's like hey he ha
Starting point is 02:15:32 a baby you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't to go to any
Starting point is 02:15:38 other So, so without she's she gets to see her
Starting point is 02:15:45 mother, and the nothing he's the voice and he says, I'm
Starting point is 02:15:48 my mom, the the children that I'm still they're
Starting point is 02:15:52 waiting. I'm not I'm don't make to be more.
Starting point is 02:15:57 When her she she says he he's he feel
Starting point is 02:16:01 a his so and with that perid, saying to that's the
Starting point is 02:16:08 mother is a a moment and there no there's what's children
Starting point is 02:16:13 there there's there let's let's go back to the she
Starting point is 02:16:18 she's there's mom me they're waiting let me let me
Starting point is 02:16:23 let me she she's they're so they're so they're
Starting point is 02:16:28 so she she never she she she she You're saying
Starting point is 02:16:35 that we're going to to go to the camera here there's a nothing you're not a lot of
Starting point is 02:16:39 the lady the lady the girl with a he's a little he's a way to
Starting point is 02:16:46 the but the mom she'd get to because I thought that I
Starting point is 02:16:50 would would be to be that that maybe the little to try
Starting point is 02:16:55 to try to try to to get to his mind he's
Starting point is 02:17:00 he's he he said he record the things and her mom and his mom
Starting point is 02:17:03 he said, a bit what was a night is a time about a lot important.
Starting point is 02:17:11 These are a little she was a little but effectively had heard of this time
Starting point is 02:17:17 in the place where she is very popular and then she she said
Starting point is 02:17:24 and what was what I said I was really vaguely what I had done not
Starting point is 02:17:28 she had to the mom she she begins to tell, she starts a
Starting point is 02:17:32 little more of what he says the woman, and it's there where he's in this fear,
Starting point is 02:17:37 imagineate, that I would have been out of my house in the madrogada,
Starting point is 02:17:43 because I would I going to go to some that nobody had more than
Starting point is 02:17:47 I, would have had gone the umbral of who knows what and me
Starting point is 02:17:51 have been and me had been many of I, I've learned that these
Starting point is 02:17:58 these are present in all the places in where they want to you to give to you, for you guys. The worst was what me told me after my mom.
Starting point is 02:18:11 He said that his abuelo of this little, of Monse, he had occurred to something when he was a young, but no, a young. So, his abuelo had 20 years. The lady said to Monsey that one night
Starting point is 02:18:27 She, she accosted to his abuel, this is a story that he told his father to her father to her daughter.
Starting point is 02:18:35 He, he goes to sleep, profoundly, he's per in this dream and and then
Starting point is 02:18:39 he's like Monse he's a little but he was in his camera. He was
Starting point is 02:18:45 was made that he was in a can't a channel of the water. No manches.
Starting point is 02:18:51 He was he was a pyjama but his pyjama was like
Starting point is 02:18:55 was very extrano, and he he's quite desorbitated because he says, what I'm here?
Starting point is 02:19:02 I'm in my house and I'm here. And, of the nothing, I was listening to
Starting point is 02:19:09 go to the way. I'm and I'm reading so he and he he didn't
Starting point is 02:19:15 he never he had had comeinado or if had been a he had done,
Starting point is 02:19:19 no he was he he was he he got to do to do and
Starting point is 02:19:23 he her account to this, she assimila that maybe
Starting point is 02:19:30 there's a lot of there and that they're not they're when they
Starting point is 02:19:36 was a young, he was exactly the same to she she
Starting point is 02:19:40 she and the end of the the advantage is that was
Starting point is 02:19:44 the I'm not I'm I think I'm I'm
Starting point is 02:19:49 know that it's the city of Kroba Kru and
Starting point is 02:19:53 that is that this story is because he thinks that
Starting point is 02:19:57 there that's there someone more that has seen to these people
Starting point is 02:20:03 them in the obscurid God. God my. The abo.
Starting point is 02:20:10 The abel had 20 years and he had six. Siette years. I'm going not with
Starting point is 02:20:17 no with no, not with the things that I've read and that have
Starting point is 02:20:22 told and that today in these other capitul and in other
Starting point is 02:20:26 episodes is that they've been about the chaneques. I consider that the abuel
Starting point is 02:20:32 not they were with them totally because he had 20 years. But if she would have opened
Starting point is 02:20:39 the door, nobody would have been able to this story because no have gone.
Starting point is 02:20:44 Exactly. I mean. I think. I think that something something that was that did
Starting point is 02:20:49 do you, he made that that was that that was not maybe not even
Starting point is 02:20:54 we've had been could tell this. Uff. After me, and I said
Starting point is 02:20:57 right that you did it. Yes. And if something, something, that's not
Starting point is 02:21:02 that's not. So, because it's many years after. And, so I think was a
Starting point is 02:21:07 story fascinating for those amants of these stories, but no me imagine the shock that
Starting point is 02:21:13 had to have lived over she, and all the other that they and they know
Starting point is 02:21:16 those people are my love. I, they're Cheneck. That's my fascina.
Starting point is 02:21:24 Daphne, I thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Repetun us, for favor. Rees social,
Starting point is 02:21:29 platforms. For sure. Of course. Of course. In a manner personal, me can't find out of Nenukado. So,
Starting point is 02:21:36 I'm going to accept those messages, and stories. And I'm in the same mesa that Paco
Starting point is 02:21:43 Arias and Oscar Herbert in a podcast called, The Regalalant Sustos. I hope to do
Starting point is 02:21:51 paranormal, icebergs of some things, questions occultas also of characters quite
Starting point is 02:21:58 known. And, of the actual, I'm going to do you know I'm going to do you know?
Starting point is 02:22:05 Can't? I've got a third participation and it's wow I'm, I can't tell you.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Yeah, because at the more it's all maybe it came to when you see this
Starting point is 02:22:17 capitual and if it's has been it's you've been and you've have seen,
Starting point is 02:22:21 netta they need to go to know it. We're going to talk about Michael Jackson. That's.
Starting point is 02:22:26 God. What kind of I think that never been seen. Yes. We've seen a lot
Starting point is 02:22:31 so much so much so much, and I'm thank you that I have invited again.
Starting point is 02:22:36 No, thanks to you for to share that we and then thank me to
Starting point is 02:22:41 keep me here to be here today to be this story of 10% of 5
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