Into the Impossible With Brian Keating - This Proves the Big Bang Happened: 30 Minute Thesis (#251)
Episode Date: August 23, 2022There's been lots of speculation in the popular press claiming the Big Bang never happened. Supposedly, new data from the James Webb Space Telescope presents a crisis for an old universe that emerged ...from a hot dense plasma, in favor of a much more ancient cosmology -- a plasma cosmology. Yet the underpinnings of the Big Bang are more solid than ever, thanks in large part to the fossil evidence astrophysicists have found of primordial nucleosynthesis, also called BBN. Join me for a deep-dive into the physics of the formation of the elements, perhaps the most indisputable evidence for the hot Big Bang there is. 00:00 Intro 00:01 Pillars of the Big Bang Theory 05:40 I meant to say hydrogen makes up 60-70% of the body by atoms, not by mass 08:00 Time vs. temperature in the early universe 10:00 Planck's Law 19:00 Deuterium 20:20 What does Neil think? Connect with me: 🏄♂️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrBrianKeating 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/DrBrianKeating 🔔 Subscribe https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating?sub_confirmation=1 📝 Join my mailing list; just click here http://briankeating.com/list ✍️ Detailed Blog posts here: https://briankeating.com/blog.php 🎙️ Listen on audio-only platforms: https://briankeating.com/podcast Join Shortform through my link Shortform.com/impossible and you’ll receive 5 days of unlimited access and an additional 20% discounted annual subscription! Subscribe to the Jordan Harbinger Show for amazing content from Apple’s best podcast of 2018! Can you do me a favor? Please leave a rating and review of my Podcast: 🎧 On Apple devices, click here, scroll down to the ratings and leave a 5 star rating and review The INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE Podcast. 🎙️On Spotify it’s here 🎧 On Audible it’s here Other ways to rate here: https://briankeating.com/podcast Support the podcast on Patreon or become a Member on YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Today's episode is going to take us way back, back to the earliest fossils in the universe.
As I am an experimentalist, I love to do things in the laboratory to explicate and explain
the most interesting, fascinating, and revealing features of our universe.
The Big Bang Theory is not just a wonderful TV show.
It's also our closest held notion of how the universe came to be, supplanting previous models,
such as the quasi-steady state universe, the static universe, and early versions of cyclical universes.
To ask a question as to why we have credulity or belief in this model, we have to look at the pieces of evidence.
And there are three pillars, so-called pillars of the Big Bang model, that we cosmologists adhere to
and use, in our daily work, to gain more and more credulity in the model itself,
and to also test it for its cracks, flaws, and foibles.
Those three pillars on which our modern cosmological model rests are the expansion of the universe,
the Hubble expansion of every single galaxy with a tiny handful of exceptions.
500 billion galaxies are all receding away from us.
We want to be able to explain that in a self-consistent, coherent, conceptual framework.
The origin of the primordial photons that I study, called the cosmic microbe
background, have to be explained and are explained in the context of a hot Big Bang.
And last but not least, the topic we haven't really touched upon in this channel,
at least in the depth that we're going to go into today, is called BBN, Big Bang nucleosynthesis.
What does that mean?
Well, we know we're made of matter.
We know there's a lot more non-matter like us in the universe, so called Dark Matter.
We've talked about that in many episodes, and we'll continue to do so.
But the Big Bang nucleosynthetic predictions predict how much ordinary matter should exist in the universe,
matter such as the kind that we're comprised of.
Primarily, the primordial elements, hydrogen, helium, and their isotopes, Deuterium, tritium, helium, helium,
3 give us great bounds and significant constraints on what the properties of the early universe were like.
The Hubble expansion says that every one of these galaxies in the Hubble Deepfield are expanding away from us and every one of them.
So there's no center of the universe, there's no place that can call itself the origin point of the universe we've long ago dispatched with those notions.
That is a pillar dating back to the original piece of evidence from Hubble and from LaMaitre theoretically and Alexander Friedman,
that the universe was an expansion.
It was not static.
It could not be held to be consistent with a static universe.
Next, in the 1965, Penzius and Wilson discovered a fossil relic in the form of photons
that were also highly redshifted, dating to an epoch when the universe was only 371,000 years old.
Now, where did those come from?
Well, the galaxies that I show you here came from the fluctuations in spacetime curvature
and the agglomeration of ordinary matter in dark matter reservoirs that were laid down by curvature perturbations
in a primordial scalar field, perhaps inflation, perhaps another field. We will continue to talk
about that on this channel, but the primordial C&B fluctuations provided the C. Nuclei and nucleating
science where ordinary matter could form into galaxies and clusters of galaxies after accreting
onto dark matter, which had to precede the ordinary matter's existence. So these are fossil relics.
One is a fossil expansion of galaxies that are quite ancient. Another is even more ancient photons from
the CMB, and today we're going to talk about the formation of the elements and how they lead to
this picture of the cosmic web, cosmic pattern of galaxies, what they are, what they are not, how they
are located is a direct tracer of the properties of the ordinary matter. After all, these galaxies
in this Millennium simulation are tracing the position of ordinary matter, protons, neutrons,
the croutons. These ordinary matter particles conglomerate where there was dark matter. That dark matter
arouse in certain locations over other locations because the presence of curvature fluctuations,
creating gravitational potential wells for the dark matter to fall into, which then accrete ordinary matter,
which then make C&B photons have a harder time climbing out of the potential wells established early on in the universe's history.
Eventually that matter, the ordinary matter ignites and forms galaxies. But where did that ordinary matter
come from to make this incredible tapestry, this rich cosmic web? The formation, the formation,
of the first elements, the lightest elements, the primordial elements of nucleosynthesis.
So the pillar that we're talking about today is called BBN, and we have accounted for
the others in terms of a pre-existing amount of matter.
We have to have an accessible prediction to compare with accessible observational data.
And you've often heard it said, and I said this to Neil deGrasse Tyson, when I was on his
StarTalk podcast, I said, Carl Sagan used to talk about how we're all star stuff,
which is true for the heavy elements in our bodies.
I see what you did there.
You said boom.
I see what you do there.
I got to put a bang in there every so often.
Calcium in our bones, the iron in our blood.
But where did the ordinary matter come from that makes up 70 or 80% of our body by mass?
Some more than others.
But that mass is in the form of hydrogen.
That hydrogen didn't come from stars.
It came from the Big Bang.
And we can account for it and test our model of cosmogenesis by using observations of how much hydrogen remains to this very day.
So when we look at primordial bbn nucleosynthesis, what we want to see is what evidence is left over from these early epochs.
This is the process of fusion of protons, of neutrons, to form deuterium, heavy hydrogen, tritium, even heavier hydrogen,
and heavier elements like helium, helium, helium, 3, etc., lithium.
They have very few numbers of protons, and that is going to be associated with their placement in the periodic table, but also their mass.
and their mass is determining their energy, their binding energy, via E equals MC squared.
The most famous equation in all of science.
The formation of these light elements is not perfectly efficient.
In fact, fusion gives off heat, which is why we think we can use fusion to power our electrical needs on Earth.
That's the backbone of the fusion reactor dream or goal.
Today, we have not been able to provide a sustainable solution for electrical power using fusion.
bringing together two lighter things to make a heavier thing with some binding energy left over in the form of heat or photons.
Those photons then later heat up the remaining protons, neutrons, and electrons that exist after the first few seconds after the Big Bang.
And that heat then persists as the universe expands and that heat cools off from very, very strong, hard x-rays and gamma-wave length radiation
to the CMB radiation that we observe today after expansion of many thousands and millions.
millions of times in our universe since the first few seconds after the Big Bang.
So when I teach my students this, we are archaeologists, I say.
We are going back in time to an early epoch that we can test the properties of
by looking at the relics that have traveled through space and through time.
Some of these objects are still very far away from us,
but my colleagues with their powerful telescopes and their mighty brains
have devised ways to use that information that we see through telescopes
and use them as time machines to go back to this epoch.
of nucleosynthesis. And then my colleagues in the cosmic microwave background experimental regime,
we work on detecting the photon left over, and the combination of the amount of photon relics
plus matter relics tells us everything we need to know to test the Big Bang's predictions of a hot,
dense, early configuration of the universe. We talk about the radiation in the universe.
We know that the number of photons per cubic meter, centimeter, megaparsic, all decrease as the size of the
universe increases. As you increase or double the size scale of the universe, the scale factor
A of T, that tells you that the volume increases by a factor of 8, 2 cubed. Now, photons and other
forms of radiation also suffer an additional effect, which is that their energy gets redshifted,
because their wavelength of light gets redshifted along with the expansion of the universe.
Putting these together, in the earliest epoch of the cosmic history, the universe was evolving
as a expanding purely radiation-filled cosmos.
Now, when we look at the early universe,
we can then make accurate predictions
how fast it was expanding.
From the expansion rate A of T, its derivative, a dot,
or the time derivative of A,
we can get the Hubble parameter at any time in the universe's history.
The Hubble parameter evaluated today is the Hubble constant,
but we can accurately test it and trace its history
and calculate how fast was the universe expanding
at extremely early times.
noting that the universe is still filled with photons left over from this period of time,
this first few minutes after the Big Bang,
we can calculate the abundance of radiation and what it must have been like,
how hot this radiation must have been like when the universe was one trillion times smaller than it is today by volume.
To do that, we can ask how hot was a given photon in the universe zipping and buzzing around.
That is easily calculated from Planck's black body radiation law,
and when we do that, we get an energy scale.
And that energy scale depends on time because the universe is expanding, and the photon wavelength is expanding.
So each individual photons energy will drop, as the universe doubles in size, it will drop in half.
That is simple photon physics in so-called redshifted or expanding cosmological scenarios.
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So at one second after the Big Bang, the universe had a characteristic temperature associated with a characteristic energy of about three mega electron volts, million electron volts.
And for reference, an electron volt is the amount of energy that you need to accelerate an electron
to give it a potential of one electron volt.
Now, that's not very helpful or very useful, but you can think about it in these terms.
To take a single hydrogen atom and hit it with a photon, such that that atom of hydrogen
dissociates, ionizes into a proton and an electron, you need to zap it with only 13.6 electron
volts.
You may remember that from high school chemistry.
I sure do.
Well, maybe, maybe.
That amount of energy entails in comparison to 3 million electron volts
was the characteristic energy of a photons at this time,
meaning that photons could easily blast apart any atoms,
explaining why atoms didn't exist.
Now, the question is, did nuclei exist?
The binding energy of nuclei are much higher
than the binding energy of a proton to an electron
that we call a hydrogen atom.
Now, let me give you some characteristic energy scales.
The CERN Large Hadron Collider,
which is directed by my fellow narrator, Fabiola Giannati,
and Galileo's Dialogue on two world systems.
You can get a link in the video description,
briankeeting.com slash dialogue.
You can get your own copy in here, Fabiola,
the director of CERN.
She oversees this massive collider
that can replicate the conditions
in the early universe at certain times.
So she can replicate the universe with her colleagues.
If you extrapolate back the temperature law
that I show up above,
as a function of temperature,
the temperature goes up as a square,
root of time as you go back in time. And so she can actually access energies that are 7 trillion
electron bolts that's over 2 million times larger than the energy the universe was at one second
after the Big Bang. So you square that million, you get roughly a trillion, and you work out the
math exactly, and you get that she could maximally probe with the most powerful collider on
earth, an epoch in which the universe was about a tenth of a trillion of a second old after the Big Bang.
But that pales in comparison to what we are attempting to do with experiments like the Simon's Observatory,
which is to go back some 10 to 20 orders of magnitude more in our search for primordial B modes,
as we've discussed in previous videos.
So how far back could you possibly go?
Could you go back to the Plank era?
Well, that would correspond to a time and an energy scale that is far in excess of what you could detect here or use here on Earth.
So there's no hope to build a particle accelerator to access the energy scales that we can get to
with cosmic microrate background radiation experiments, or thereabouts.
So let's do some simple nuclear physics.
Let's talk about the lightest elements on the periodic table.
Let's compare them to other elements in the periodic table.
So atoms, which are just bindings of protons to electrons with neutrons in the nuclei
to electrons in the outer orbitals, those have characteristic binding energies of the electron
volt scale.
So to ionize a hydrogen atom, you need 13.6 electron volts.
Helium has two protons, so a single electron is more tightly bound because there's more
coolome or electrostatic force.
So you need almost twice as much energy to zap off a single electron.
Cesium and other things have screening effects and it makes it easier to actually eject an electron
in a cesium out.
So you can calculate the characteristic energy scale of a chemical or nuclear process by its binding
energy.
To bind an electron, you have to ensure that photons no greater than 13.6 EV are floating around,
otherwise it will get dissociated.
To bind the most simple complex nucleon, the Deuterone,
has a characteristic binding energy as well.
So these nucleons, when we come together, we make nuclei.
Those nuclei have two properties that are associated with them.
Their atomic mass number, which is the number of protons
plus the number of neutrons,
symbolized by capital N for the neutrons and capital Z for the protons.
I don't know why it's not P, but it's not.
the atomic mass number A is Z plus N.
Very simple math.
So Z determines which period in the periodic table it's in,
and the number of isotopes are determined by how many different permutations of neutrons
still have the same atomic numbers, still have the same atomic nuclei,
the same number of protons.
For all intents and purposes, we will only concern ourselves with the first, say, five or six
elements on the periodic table, because those and their isotopes,
and there's several isotopes of many of these nuclei,
they give us enough information to constrain the properties
when the universe have this characteristic energy
of about a few MEV, million mega electron volts.
The nuclear binding energy for Deuterium is the first one we're going to look at.
Binds the galaxy together.
We're going to ask, when you bind together a nucleus,
how much energy would be released if you were to break it apart?
And if we look at the lower right corner,
this is taken from my past guest and friend, Barbara Ryden's wonderful book,
Introduction to Cosmology, you can calculate what is the binding energy B divided by the atomic number?
That tells you something about the stability of that nuclei. That nuclei will be determined by sometimes having enough
neutrons to keep the number of protons bound stably, because you have to supply an additional force to overcome the coulum repulsion between protons.
So helium, for example, has two protons. How could you possibly get two protons to stick together if they have positive charges?
They should repel. The answer is you need some neutrons around. And those neutrons have opposite isospin charge, if you like,
and that allows the up quarks and down quarks in the right configuration to attract together additional protons to the neutral neutrons by going inside, if you like,
detecting the swirling process of quarks and the binding of quarks, and that's what causes them to stick together.
So stable nuclei are plotted here as having solid dots. There are isotopes, and there are unstable,
nucleonid planet here as well. And when you get to something more massive than iron, that is the
most stable atom in terms of the maximum binding energy per nucleon. Once you try to exceed that,
you have to then supply more energy to get fusion to occur, then you actually get released. You do get
energy released from fusing together, say, nickel 62, but actually the amount of energy you get out
far pales in comparison to the energy you put in. Therefore, there's not enough heat produced by the
star's core when it's synthesizing this. And so,
it eventually explodes and blows apart in what's called the type 2 supernova.
The meteorites that I like to play around with and often give away if you join my mailing list,
Brian Keating.com slash list.
So people can win a little scrap of an exploded star, which has nickel, iron 58, and other isotopes in it.
Not dangerous, don't worry.
But those come from the fragmentation explosion of a gravity bomb that we call a type 2 supernova.
And that's what happens when you try to make heavier nuclei.
Now let's go back.
We're not talking about stars today.
We're not talking about heavy elements like iron.
We're talking about the lightest elements on the periodic table.
So nuclear fission occurs, typical binding energy of about the MEV scale, less than about
10 MEPV, millions of electron volts.
So we can form Deuteron's, when the characteristic photon energy, is less than the binding
energy of that nucleon.
And the nucleon has a binding energy of about 2.22 MEV.
So as long as the temperature of the universe on average is lower,
than the binding energy of deuterium, or these deuterones,
the universe can form copious amounts of deuterons.
However, eventually the universe gets quite cold,
and there are no photons with that temperature
to break apart any deuteron.
So eventually this is going to stop,
but there are other reasons why it stops even before that.
That sets the amount of deuterium
that remains in the universe
after a few minutes after the Big Bang.
And we can observe and go out in the universe
and count large distances, high rate.
redshift equivalently or early look back times. We can detect these Deuterons at high redshift.
Then we can use that to compare with what the predictions would be based on the observation of the amount of photons and protons and neutrons in our universe today.
So the binding energy corresponds to a temperature of about 3,700 degrees, almost 3,800 degrees, and that's an age in the universe that's about 300 seconds after the Big Bang.
That was false.
We're talking about five minutes after the Big Bang. The Deuterium can form in large amounts.
Now that assumes that there are enough nucleons of the neutron type to exist.
And I've talked in this channel about the decaying of neutrons.
Neutrons decay in about 800 seconds on average.
So that means by the time the universe cools enough that you can start making copious amounts of deuterium,
there have been many decayed neutrons.
Protons don't decay.
The neutrons decay.
And so there's not that many of them left.
Almost a full half of the total amount of neutrons are gone by the time the universe is cool enough to start forming.
Deuterium. So it's actually said to be quite inefficient. The new universe has only about one quarter
left over of these deuterium is produced. And so we actually have about three quarters of the universe
just in single protons, which we call hydrogen. Now, another element that we can look at is
element number two on the periodic table, helium. Helium has a symbol in cosmology called
Y. I don't know why. It has that symbol, but it does. And so we can calculate how much helium is
left and compare that to the abundance of helium that we see in the universe.
taking into account that stars like our sun do produce helium.
That's how helium got its name.
Helium stands to Helios, the Greek god of the sun.
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Some helium that's made, and if you go through the calculation
precisely, we predict a
primordial abundance of helium of
about 25%.
It's actually a little bit less than that.
So we have 75% hydrogen, about
24% helium, and that means
Everything else that we're made up of in the entire universe by mass is less than 1% of all the mass density and ordinary matter in the universe, forgetting about dark matter, which dwarfs ordinary matter by another factor of five.
What we're made up of is so irrelevant to the overall chemistry and mass in the universe that no amount of overeating and binge eating will protect us and prevent us from being completely irrelevant at a mass scale.
Somebody needs therapy.
So when we look at how the energy of Deuterium can be converted to a binding energy,
meaning that if you zap it with enough energy, it will shatter apart into proton and two neutron.
Same thing can hold for an individual neutron.
You can zap a neutron apart.
A neutron has a binding energy, if you like.
The neutron decays in about 880 seconds.
So in about 300 seconds, we have a decay of nearly half, or let's call it close to a third,
of an entire half-life. So that doesn't mean a half or even a third of a half have decayed. We can
calculate it exactly. But we can look at how this process of a neutron decaying into a proton,
electron, and electron antinatrino for lepton conservation, how that is associated with a binding
energy. And we can calculate how that occurs. And that tells us about the stability of neutrons,
and we can associate a binding energy with that as well. So we can use that factor and calculate the
amount of neutrons that are existing, and that will take us from 300 seconds back to about
one second in the cosmic history, where there was enough energy to shatter apart neutrons
into protons and neutrons and electron antinutrinos. So at times much, much earlier than the
half-life of the neutron, there were about one neutron for every five protons. So that means
at most you could make a neutron plus a proton, which we call a deuterium nucleus, and there
be left over for unbound protons. So there's almost no fusion of most of the protons in the
universe by number. So when we look out at the universe, we find if we do the calculation
correctly, we can predict how much helium there should be. Very rough estimate gives you an estimate
of about one-third using a calculation. I'll leave it up there for the aficionados to go through.
And if we calculate the fraction of the neutrons that are still remaining, we do this calculation
accurately, we end up with a fraction of about somewhere between 0.24 and 0.24-5-ish.
So it's extremely accurate. Then we just have to go out and measure before stars started to form
these vast Lyman Alpha clouds, clouds of hydrogen and helium that were existing after the Big Bang.
We can measure that. There's also another isotope of hydrogen, which is even more exotic. It's
actually radioactive called tritium. I don't have access to that. It's incredibly dangerous. So I won't be
doing any experiments with that. So what we want to look at is the abundance at these different signposts,
mile markers, not millions of years ago, not billions of years ago. We're talking about 13.8 billion
years ago. One second after the Big Bang is one milestone, how many neutrons were left after being
dissociated perhaps by high energy photons, then at 300 seconds, and then finally, looking back
at their leftover protons and neutrons and electrons that were in existence when the CMB itself
formed. So we do that, we can calculate very, very accurately how much there should be left today.
This abundance shows the amount of energy density in the form of mass for different objects in the
universe, starting, not including hydrogen, because hydrogen will be off the charts here.
The first in the split graph shows you a very large abundance of helium, helium four.
There's also helium three down much, much lower abundance.
There's Deuterium, which is the third most abundant of all nuclei in the early universe.
We can compare that.
And then we can go even further down to look at lithium.
And that gets really hard to look for primordial amounts of lithium.
But we saw this as a function of the barion to photon ratio,
which is indicative of the fact that the universe was producing copious amounts of energy.
When these light elements are fused together, they give off energy.
That energy is in the form of photons.
Those photons ride along and expand along their wavelengths.
as the universe expands from one second to 380,000 years after the Big Bang.
So, in summary, the primordial relics of photons
and the earliest combinations of protons and electrons
are the most ancient fossils that we can detect and measure to this very day.
We look at the abundances of these different elements in the universe,
and we correlate that to predictions of when they left the nuclear furnaces that produced them.
When we go out in the cosmos, we can then compare the abundances at very high redshift,
which is not equal to looking back at one second or even 371,000 years after the Big Bank.
But we can go back as far as we can, make the assumption that there are no stars producing these
other elements like Deuterium, certainly stars aren't really producing Deuterium, but they do produce
helium. Before the first stars were formed, we can look at those heavy gas clouds, look for their
material composition, compare that with the results from the theoretical models that we've just
talked about, refine our models, and then eventually we will get to a place where we can
predict the abundance of all the ordinary matter in the early universe and can then use the abundance
of ordinary matter to then trace the properties of dark matter, which then traces the properties
of structure formation, of curvature, and eventually perhaps of inflation itself.
That's for our future video.
For now, Brian Keating, thanking you for attending this class for course credit in what I call
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