Into the Impossible With Brian Keating - What Does It Mean to Live a Fulfilling Life? The Candy Ken Show
Episode Date: August 23, 2024What does it mean to live a fulfilling life? Why should we commit to one person? Why are we as a society so obsessed with wealth? And why do I consider being a parent the most important role in my lif...e? I had the pleasure of chatting about these profound topics with Candy Ken on his show. Enjoy! Candy Ken is an Austrian rapper, model, and social media personality known for his flamboyant, colorful style and hyper-masculine persona that challenges traditional gender norms. He gained popularity on platforms like TikTok and Instagram, where he combines elements of kawaii culture, macho aesthetics, and pop culture references. He’s the host of The Candy Ken Show. — Key Takeaways: 00:00 Intro 01:13 Committing to one person 02:34 Chasing external achievements 04:00 The most important role in life 12:18 Cultural obsession with wealth 24:47 The importance of male role models 33:21 Are you a slave to work? 43:29 Losing the Nobel Prize 48:39 Into the Impossible 51:25 The politicization of the Nobel Prize 01:01:08 Aliens, ancient civilizations and religion 01:21:49 Finding happiness 01:29:51 Outro — Additional resources: ➡️ Check out Candy Ken: 🔔 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzxn731KM8sfH_LS7-ekbTg — ➡️ Follow me on your fav platforms: ✖️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrBrianKeating 🔔 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating?sub_confirmation=1 📝 Join my mailing list: https://briankeating.com/list ✍️ Check out my blog: https://briankeating.com/cosmic-musings/ 🎙️ Follow my podcast: https://briankeating.com/podcast — Into the Impossible with Brian Keating is a podcast dedicated to all those who want to explore the universe within and beyond the known. Make sure to follow/subscribe so you never miss an episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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You have to take a day off or you're a slave.
I don't care how much you love what you do or I would do science all day long.
I built telescopes, I launched rockets into space.
I've been to the highest points in South America.
I've been to the South Pole.
But that's an addiction.
I know billionaires, they can't stop working.
You're a billionaire.
Like, what are you talking about?
You have to do this.
You want to do that, but that doesn't mean that you're not a slave.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Open the pod bay doors, hell.
Thank you so much for making time, Brian.
It's my pleasure, Ken.
Yeah, I've been following you since we got in touch, I guess, last summer.
It's been a year.
We've been meaning to meet up.
You were one of the first people I messaged originally.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
You're a fascinating guy.
I do.
You know, I say there's a saying, you know, live to impress yourself.
My dad's dead now.
I can't impress him, but he made a big impact of my life.
And now it's just about, you know, my kids.
I want to impress them and have to make good.
role model for them and trying to do all sorts of fun stuff and just, you know, we only
get a short time on this little chunk of rock spinning around a star.
Got to enjoy it.
I know.
I love what you said about how hard it is to commit to one family, one relationship, one woman,
especially having two little boys.
It's so tough to find time for each other, especially right now because they have five months
and three years.
You're in the middle of it.
I'm in the middle.
So we have to fight even for like an hour at night.
You know, when they're finally down, you breathe and you can relate a little bit.
We stop watching TV because otherwise we will never connect to each other anymore.
And I bought a little barrel sauna.
So we just sit in front of each other.
And we have like half an hour of like where we just trying to like decompress and talk
because all day you're just busy helping your kid, getting their needs.
their attention, their education, watching out for them.
I mean, they always constantly need you, especially the mom.
So I try to just assist and then at night trying to connect.
And I really love what you said about that there's so many people that like look down upon
this committing to one woman and you want to be this alpha male who attracts like hundreds
of women.
But it's much harder to commit to one woman.
I feel like, especially once you achieve this like guru status where of course,
women are like throwing themselves at you.
I don't know about that personally.
I mean, you know, for a physicist maybe.
But no, I think about it like the deepest relationship,
the most like intense and depth of a relationship you can have
is when you commit to one person.
People think it's going to be diversity
and finding a whole bunch of things.
And if that were true, then like Hugh Hefner
and all these like playboys,
they'd be the happiest guys on earth.
And you look at them and they're miserable.
No one's there by their side when they die
except for the hose that they pay to be around them.
And it's sad, but a lot of what life is about now is external metrics.
You're like, oh, I want to be like you, like, you know, our friends.
We have mutual friends like Andrew Huberman or somebody like that or other podcasts.
Tim Ferriss, Lex Friedman, friend of mine, and Andrew Tate.
I don't know. I'm personally.
I'm not friendly with him.
But these guys get all the attention because they have the flashy stuff, the stuff that you can see,
the Rolexes, the, you know, the fast cars, the multiple cars, the multiple women,
in the dandals area,
people crowd around these guys.
But what you can see is how lonely they are.
Because there's no doubt that they're showing that stuff off.
Hey, it's to prove and make an image.
And that's fine.
People make a living off it.
But when it's collecting objects,
like I always say if you want true happiness,
the way to achieve true happiness is to do things.
And I'll try to explain what I mean,
but do things that if they got taken away from you would devastate you.
So think about like the happiest times in your life.
you're with your kids, you're with your wife.
And I'm not even going to say it because it makes me tear up
and I get emotional thinking about it.
But every person who's a parent knows their worst fear.
That's all I'm going to say,
because I don't like ruminating on it.
That tells you that being a parent
is the most important thing you could do.
Because you're doing the thing that if it was taken away from you
would cause you the most pain,
such that you wouldn't want to live.
And I think about that every day.
I'm like, I get to commit to one person
who I love more than anybody,
and I've got these beautiful kids that she's given me.
God gave me, if you like,
and that's my mission and everything else is fun
I'm not gonna lie it's fun to have the trappings and do the stuff
and the kids look up you know I got one of the silver ones
you got a gold one diamond one fell like up in there but my kids love that
and you know they're looking up to you they're like wow you're going on a candidly
that's pretty impressive but for me it's like you know I can't say I do everything I do
for them I have an ego definitely an narcissistic at some level but at the bottom line
that's the most important thing commit to one person that sounds beautiful that night time ritual
You know, you hear, oh, what's Andrew Huberman's morning ritual, right?
And it's like, no, nighttime ritual.
I bond with my wife.
We sit in bed.
We do a four-step process.
Just hold each other's hands, talk about our day, educate ourselves,
give a little maybe corrective advice.
What was it like we could do better?
And that's the most beautiful part of the day.
But the problem is it only lasts for 20 minutes.
You get a little more time because you only have to.
But maybe you'll get more.
Yeah, I haven't really thought about it like that.
Because if your IG account goes away, it sucks, but it's not devastating.
If you lose your car, it sucks too, but it's not going to make you kill yourself.
But if, I mean, your children, your health, my wife, I mean, that is true happiness where it really lays.
And I think, I don't know if you watched a new Arnold documentary on that six.
I saw parts of it.
Yeah, I watched it.
But it's crushing that like the one thing he lost his family.
And you can see him, he's like 70s with his like farm animals and he's like, I lost,
I want all these things and I'm like an idol to all an icon, right?
But I lost that one thing.
And it's really sad to witness that now that like a lot of people that didn't achieve so much
have that.
Right.
You know, and he would trade everything.
Yeah.
You know, to be, to be, to be you, he would trade everything to be your age,
to be another Austrian, right?
Another Austrian fitness guy.
He would trade everything.
And that's the way I like to think about it.
What would...
Mike won't a little bit up yet.
Perfect.
What would 70-year-old Brian want to tell Brian right now?
Because I'm the healthiest I'm going to be.
You know, I'm going to hopefully get in better shape,
whatever, you're going to give me some tips after the show.
My body will hit your gym.
I want to hit that up, do some squats.
But mentally, you know, financially, this is like the peak.
And you're younger, so you're moving into that.
But I'm kind of, I'm envious because you had kids when you're young.
I had kids when I was in my, you know, mid, late 30s.
So they'll be older.
when I'm older and that's fine but but I had kids and I look at all these influencers now and I see
these young men and they're like they want to be you know whatever the Andrew tates Andrew Hewrens
and I'm like okay but just you know don't adopt it unless you want to take everything in their life
their pain they're suffering the things that they've been through people look at I had a mentor
great mentor he passed away last month Jim Simons one of the wealthies people in the world
multi-billionaire started three different you know companies hedge funds philanthropy scientist
extraordinary person.
He funds the research that I do or did.
He passed away.
He had two sons that died.
Two sons that died, different accidents as young men,
can't even relate to it.
And how he survives.
He's just like this stoic, just incredible individual.
But would I trade places to be the 50th,
the richest guy in the world?
Absolutely not.
But I wouldn't trade places with anyone besides me.
And I always felt in high school I wasn't like super popular.
I still have friends from him.
But people tell me, Brian, this is the best time of your life.
And I was like, God forbid.
Like, if this peaks in high school,
I know we were talking about where you went to high school,
the same as my brother-in-law.
But the fact is, it may have been good,
may have been fun, but can't compare to where you're out now.
No, it's, and it's like, especially with my second child,
I really enjoy every moment because with my first one, I complained.
And I thought, like, this will never end.
You know, he's never going to grow up.
You feel like you're stuck and you lose yourself
and you lose everything you have.
and your career and your time
and suddenly the world is not surrounding
is not about you anymore.
And that's like the best thing.
And I think all this stupid shit
that's happening right now is from people
that don't have children.
If you don't have children,
you do not grasp the idea of what life is
if it's not about you.
It's not about my pronouns.
It's not about me being mentally ill.
I have to work.
I'm a dad, bro.
I have to show up.
Nobody gives how I feel.
I need to be there
and I need to hold this thing together.
And this makes me a better
person.
Yeah.
You have a purpose outside of yourself.
Yeah.
And think about why you mentioned like the mother is more important.
That's true.
It's 100% true.
I mean, fathers do work for, I don't know, five, ten minutes.
If we're lucky, you know, make the baby.
The mother's nine months, right?
And, you know, since the ancient times of Aristotle and the philosophers of old,
they used to say things like, it's not a wonder why the children always love the mother more.
I mean, sorry, guys out there.
Still be dad, still, you know, marry a good woman or vice versa if you're a woman to find a good man.
But the fact is, why do the kids love the mother more?
Why is the mother love the kids more than even the husband?
Because she sacrificed physically.
She got big.
She lost her body.
She did all the different things.
But also, she would suffer more.
It actually grew inside of her.
And so the fact is that, of course you do.
And that means, you ever see a parent, God forbid, they have a kid who's got a deformity,
maybe he's mentally, you know, has a mental challenge or a physical challenge or whatever.
And they have other kids, like brothers and sisters, of that child.
But that child is always special to them.
It's even more special in some ways than the other kids
because they have to sacrifice more.
The lesson, you love that which you sacrifice for.
It's the same thing.
Commit to something.
Commit to a woman.
Commit to a profession.
Commit to being excellent at something.
And whatever it is, I don't care if it's TikTok, Instagram, whatever,
if you're committing to it and you're making it,
this is my profession because I have to acquire the skills,
the talent, the resources to support a family,
that's your mission from God.
And how sickening is it that now we have this prognative
that women need to do a career and that they're not worthy if they just stay at home and do the hardest job in the world, right?
Which is raising these young toddlers.
It's not just the hardest.
It's the most important.
The most important.
There's nothing more important.
And every minute, like I try to really tell myself every time they whine, they cry, they're like on the floor, throwing them a trantrum.
I'm like, this matters.
This is where you put in the work.
Like, these are moments we'll go.
You'll be in silence, alone, old at home and like, wish.
that somebody would draw on your freaking wall.
You know, you wish somebody would
fuck up your whole living room because there's
going to be just silence and this
voice in your head is going to be so loud.
So it just, I love it.
I saw this graph and it's like a amount of time
you spend with different people. So how much time
did you spend with your parents? How much time do you
spend with your siblings with your friends, with your wife, with your
kids? And everything's like peaking.
Like the kids peaks when he's 18, then he moves out of the house,
right? So you get this precious thing.
And so for me, I'm Jewish, so we celebrate every
Friday night. We have the Sabbath, the Shabbat,
We have wine, we have bread, we talk, we have conversation.
And it's lovely.
And I'm like, I count things.
If someone asks me to go to Europe to give a conference,
to give a speech, even if I'm getting paid a lot of money to do it,
I say, like, is it over a Friday or Saturday?
If it is, I have to think really hard.
Because if it is, that's only what's one tenth of a percent of the time I get with my child
in that precious moment that we call the Sabbath.
And I'm not willing to give that up unless you pay me a lot of money,
or there's something in it for me.
And so a lot of times, and this has been so powerful,
saying no, I'm sure you've had this experience too.
You get so many inbound things, you say no to a lot of stuff.
And when you say yes to something, you're looking at your son and you're saying to him,
or in my case I have daughters too, I look at them and I'm saying, I prefer this thing to you.
I'm not going to do that for almost anything.
It has to be very important.
Family, close friends, someone who needs something.
If it's just money, sorry, I can make money.
I can never make that time back.
And I just think nobody teaches that anymore.
It's not a value that I see on Netflix or in school or even from my own dad.
It was never like, hey, you got to bring life into this world.
You need to find the woman of your dreams and create a family.
It's more about making a lot of money, being a YouTuber, being famous, being rich, especially being rich.
Yeah, right?
That's like the main goal is followers and money.
And not like how many kids do you have?
Right, which is a true resource.
Look at the most popular, longest living.
lasting show on television is The Simpsons, which I love.
I used to watch it.
I don't watch it anymore.
It's kind of kind of woke and a little bit too annoying for me.
But anyway, I watch it for 30 years.
Now it's in its 40th year.
What is it to pick?
It's a dofist dad.
It doesn't know what he's doing.
You know, the kids are smarter than the dad.
They talk back.
The wife is like doing her own thing and she has her own adventure.
Whatever, that's fine.
And look, all the power to do a woman who could do both, I think I can't do it.
I'm just saying maybe I'm opposed to you.
I cannot do both.
I cannot, you know, do family as well as I can do, you know, if I dedicate to it as my career.
I have to sacrifice one thing.
I can't multitize.
My wife, Ivy League educated, brilliant woman, talented woman, artistic, all the stuff.
She gave it up and it's the most rewarding thing and she wouldn't change one second of it.
And I think about that.
Like, again, do the things that would devastate you if they're gone.
So would it devastate you, you know, again, yeah, like I had this happen when I was on, you know,
I have very few followers compared to you.
But on Twitter, rather, for a long time before Elon took it over,
I wanted to get a verified blue checkmark.
Okay?
And I'm a tenured full professor at one of the top universities in the world.
I've started multiple experiments, a total research amount of about $200 million to my name,
200 papers, four books I've written.
I've got an honorary degree on a speech.
I've done a tremendous amount of stuff.
They wouldn't give it to me because I've been associated with things that were against their woke narrative at the time.
I had done things for their YouTube channel like Jordan Peterson,
and I'd been on, you know, things that they considered misinformation, Joe Rogan.
And so I couldn't get a blue check.
I kept applying.
And, you know, I'm not ashamed to admit it.
I was like, you know, what can I do to get?
I was written about it in the New York Times or whatever.
It didn't matter.
They were never going to give it to his blogged.
And then all of a sudden, Elon takes over.
He's like, for eight bucks a month, you can get the blue check mark.
So I was like, I wasted probably like 10 hours of my life, you know, writing to Twitter,
getting references, getting shooting in my university.
and it was all total waste.
And I started to think, well, what am I worshipping now?
Well, then it was YouTube.
I want to get to 100,000.
I want to get to a million.
But what if, like, someday they just do away with that.
And, you know, it's just like, whatever.
Everyone gets a gold plaque or a diamond plaque.
I'm not going to be PewDie Pie.
I'm not going to be, you know, T-series.
So why am I aspiring to these things?
It's because it's like it's easy.
It's fun.
It's a distraction.
But it's not real.
And again, I'm preaching to the choir.
but you only have one chance to raise your kids and if you don't someone else will and it may be
even you know someone that you that you don't respect and don't like it and don't have the values
that you like and I struggle with that my wife and I struggle with that how do we balance the values
that we want for our kids the time that we want to spend but also we need our own identities because
we'll go crazy so like I don't watch TV either I watch the San Diego Padres which is like
torturous because you know they never win but but that's about it I watch that maybe I'll scroll
YouTube, TikTok, and the night, and then I go to bed
because I got to be up in the morning.
Someone's got to take them to school.
Someone's got to make them lunches with me and my wife,
and we don't have help doing that around the clock, you know.
So, yeah, I think this is an age where people worship.
They're worshipping things that have never existed before.
Blue check marks, you know, followers.
Imagine trying to describe to your great, great, great, good grandfather,
you know, like what TikTok is and, like,
how do you amassed 15 million followers?
You couldn't do it.
Like, they just couldn't comprehend.
Who cares?
You know, like, but now, you know, it rightfully so.
And again, I don't begrudge anyone who makes a living doing it.
I've been on big shows, as you know, a friend Amber Rose,
who you may know she lives in town here.
I wrote to her before I came up here.
She's like, thought, but you get so much scrutiny.
I almost like, I want to ask you this question
because I don't get that many chance to talk to somebody.
Anything.
Yeah.
So there's a famous book called Animal Farm by George Orwell,
and it talks about, it's basically an allegory for communism,
like how bad communism was,
and it made people like treat things.
But there's a couple characters.
They're all animals,
but they represent people like William Churchill,
Winston Churchill, rather, and Roosevelt.
But there's one character who's a pig,
and then there's a donkey.
And the pig is talking to the donkey.
And the pig says,
I have this short little tail.
Can't do anything.
You have this beautiful tail,
and it's long to the donkey,
and the donkey's like waving it in the breeze,
and it's lustrous, like my wife's beautiful hair.
And the donkey says,
yeah, the Lord gave me a long tail
to swat away the fox.
flies, but I'd rather not have the flies and not need the tail. So I want to ask you, as a
podcaster to a podcast, what do you regret? What would you change about it? Do you regret the
flies? You get a lot of negative attention, I'm sorry to say, and it's hard, must be hard for you.
Do you sometimes question it and say, like, why am I doing this? Or is it just like the good
outweighs the bad? I love it. I love the feedback. I feel like, I don't know. When I started
Candy Can I call myself the unicorn because it is against the crowd. It's always been. And back in
the day that was like this poster right here, it was dressing pink. In Austria, like dressing pink
is like the most outrageous thing that you could do. Now like you get celebrated because the narrative
has shifted. So that's why I'm wearing like a trumpet now because it's much more fun. But Candy
Keny Ken is always about questioning everything and also like taking things not that serious. And
like making a little bit trolling people about like their stuck up opinions about everything.
So for me, if I don't hate negative feedback, you kind of, you're kind of like you don't get the crowd that you're supposed to kind of.
Because people even hate like Justin Bieber.
Yeah.
You're just not reaching enough people.
So I would worry more not getting negative feedback because I'm not reaching enough people at this point.
I just have my main crowd that celebrate me.
But that's not what...
Kenny Ken is like a mirror to society and what's happening right now.
And I just trigger certain emotions.
And it's never...
I wouldn't be more worried not getting negative emotions.
And I also, like, I'm...
I don't know.
I grew up with no internet and then I saw the internet occur.
And I always had a very healthy relationship to it
where I can really be like, everybody I've never ever met.
I've never had a bad encounter in my life, really.
Yeah.
Everybody, if you sit down with somebody and you talk, there's so much, we're all one,
we're all in this together, and we all have no idea what's actually happening.
We don't understand our heart and our brain and our body and the family.
And when you watch somebody give birth, I mean, it's all a miracle.
And it's so, we think we have things figured out, but we actually don't.
So when people hate online, it's just somebody not really figuring things out and it's all good.
What do you look to since there's, you know, it's a power law, right?
There's 10 times fewer people that are 10 times bigger than you and so on and so on, right?
So there's way more people I can ask advice for them than you can ask advice for it.
Like who mentors you?
Who like challenges you, inspires you, makes you want to be better at what you do?
Or how does that work for you?
Because there's so few people that are above you, you know, in terms of status, at least in this internet crazy world.
I don't know.
Ever since I started the podcast, I had really getting the chance to talk to some
somebody is like, especially now that everybody's on their phone and you don't sit down
with anybody anymore.
I even started doing podcasts with my wife's just so I can get her for two hours
with no phone.
I know.
I love it.
This society is so sick.
I told my wife.
I got to do that.
We're always like this constantly thinking back and forth and back and forth and never present.
So for me, a podcast is like, I love how Joe Rogan always puts it.
It's like almost like you get this window where you get like, get like.
to connect to somebody.
That's why I don't do virtual.
Yeah.
Because I don't want no devices and looking at a screen for two hours.
I'm good.
Yeah.
I want to see you.
I want to feel your energy.
I want to feel you're like all you're about.
And like if I can't see you, then I'll just wait.
And I've done months with no podcast.
Right.
Because like if I don't get to see you, then yeah.
And I'm good.
No, it started 10 months ago, right?
Yeah.
We met each other online.
So for me, um, yeah.
it's the best thing.
And I would say, like, man, Tim Kennedy,
he doesn't have it like financially or only famous.
He has it all figured out, like the family, the fame, the money.
You can't just win in one part in your life.
You've got to be a little bit spiritual, have some sort of like purpose.
He got it very figured out where some people, they're just a good yogi or they're just a good nutritionist
or they're just a good athlete.
But they don't have the family.
they lack and you cannot only win in one point you gotta be whole as a man to really impress me
so he when I met him I was I was very and how humble he is and how how much love and how
much compassion he has and how willing he is to to talk to me even though I look like a jerk
online you know so for me it was very surprising he's like a black jiu jihitsu and I was like
holy shit I was sweating and he like we did a session and then the podcast
cast and it was like so crazy.
But then also
I admire people of course like Joe Rogan.
I mean he, I've learned more on Joe Rogan
then I learned my whole school career.
Yeah.
I look at him and I see, you know, this guy's a family man,
he's got daughters.
Like nobody knows their names.
Nobody knows his wife's name.
Nobody knows.
But, you know, I was supposed to see him in April
for the eclipse of the sun that was going through Austin
and I made a point, you know, to kind of invite him
and I was going to have like him
and Jordan Peterson and Lex Friedman.
and Eric Weinstein,
get everybody together in Austin.
And at the end he's like,
my kids don't really want to travel today.
So, like, all right, fine, I kiss it.
But I was glad that he had that priority.
And he was just like, whatever.
You know, it's like he's very happy, go lucky and things.
But if you look at his background,
he had a very tough relationship with his dad.
His dad recently came out,
did some kind of negative attention
and press on him.
But he's another guy who's just like,
go to his studio, all business.
He's super well, you know, prepared.
He's got a whole industry there.
whisks you from place to place
and then you're gone
and you know you may never ever see him again
he may text you the next day
but but he is yeah
he's kind of exemplifying
what I think a good role model is
you know it's a guy who's financially
successful family successful
you don't hear about tabloids
you know think of how many girls he could get
he's got the most popular
you know for now until Ken takes off
it's the most popular English language speaking thing
I don't know do you dub this into like Austrian
you should man that would be great
or maybe YouTube can do it for you.
But the point is you get to that level,
all the opportunities come up,
but he's just kept it together,
and there's not like some big scandal.
They always try to get him and say,
oh, he denied COVID or he does this,
or he has conspiracy theorists on.
I don't approve everyone he has on,
but, yeah, he doesn't need my approval, right?
But the point is, like, is he living a balanced life?
Is he happy?
And I think that's what you want to ask for,
and you see all these business guys
or, like, you know, some guys that just do the podcast,
all they do.
And I think that they're profoundly unhappy.
And I worry again, I've got boys and, you know, besides me,
I think one of the most kind of macho, masculine things you can do
is care about other.
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They're boys in your life, not in a weird way.
And unfortunately, you know, Catholic Church and Boy Scouts and all sorts of queer stuff
has been bad for boys and men having relationships that aren't familial.
But, you know, we have people in my temple that, you know, they lost their dad.
And, you know, I try to always look out for them and just, like, invite them on family stuff.
and you know teach him out of fish or you know do whatever just do some manly stuff
go out in the woods in san diego and enjoy it and it makes me feel like wow this is great i know i have
my own boys but but mentoring someone else's boys who could never do it because that's he's not
alive anymore it fills me with a sense of masculinity which i think is missing you know no and there's
so many single moms out there and i can i can when you see my my toddler with me he has this stoism
he's emotionally intact and he he knows without me like punishing him or repressing him
he goes with me to the gym he reads his books he watches me he's very observant and then
with the mom he just emotionally let's go and he throws himself and he has this release and we all
know that like where we just want to be held like a baby and he doesn't do that with me and it
gives that nice yin and yang that balance and they need that they do and they can't only be with me
because it's just too much.
And it's like, it's good to have a mom,
but also you can't always, like, emotionally just be so whiny
and so, like, let go.
Like, you need both.
I was raised by a single mother for a couple of years
until, you know, between my parents, got divorced.
My father abandoned me and my older brother
and moved out to the West Coast when I was on the East Coast,
started all the new life, got remarried and so forth.
So I didn't see him for, like, 17 years.
And my mom, before she got remarried,
she was a single mom.
It was just the three of us, my older brother, me, and her.
and it sucked.
It wasn't easy for her.
She had to work.
Take care of us.
You know,
she had,
you know,
when she was dating,
it's like bringing different men
into the household.
It's disruptive for the boys,
the seven-year-old boy to see,
oh, like,
what are you doing with my mom?
Like, you know,
eventually she got married
and I was fine,
and they stayed married for a long time.
They got divorced later,
but that's another story.
But the point is,
it sucks.
You know,
suck to be a single father, too.
And it's not cool to have multiple women.
It's very disruptive.
It's very,
you don't,
You don't understand that.
Yeah.
You cannot understand that as a young boy growing up.
It's weird.
It's not right.
It's not cool at all.
100%.
And it's just sickening.
And these are daughters, too, that get treated like objects.
Yeah.
And it's not cool.
How do you feel like here is another personal question?
And people love that.
In rap songs, on media, it's all they talk about.
Oh, no, it's glorified.
It's like worship.
Let me ask you another personal question.
So you're living in L.A.
It's a capital of like, you know, Sin City,
kind of modern day Sodom and Gomorrah here, you know, driving past,
God love them, you know, pride flags left and right.
It's Pride Month here, right?
Happy Pride, yeah.
And we're, you know, driving through neighborhoods
and just seeing, you know, kind of what's going on.
Then it's Hollywood with all their materialism.
So you obviously could live anywhere and, you know,
you could do your business and you could, you know,
do your channels and promotion.
You chose to live here.
it's a high tax state, it's an oppressive regulation state.
We've got governor, you know, Newsom, homelessness is out of control insane.
Why do you stay here when you could go?
Literally, I mean, you could go to Europe.
I'm sure you could go back to Austria.
They'd love to have you back.
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I don't know. Growing up in Austria,
I always wanted to be a part of culture.
You know?
Like, the fame, the money,
everything was whatever. But like,
I used to like watch like the
Oscars or
the MTV Music Awards when it was like
still cool. And I used to like
feel like I'm missing out.
Everybody's watching American
culture and you're not a part of it.
And for me, I
I wanted to be a part of culture.
I wanted to be influential and a positive force for free thinking, for being free.
I wanted to free myself and to free other people.
And I feel like in Austria you cannot do that because you don't have a German Joe Rogan.
A German speaking, Joe Rogan.
Yeah, maybe AI can make that happen.
But for now, you don't have a German Andrew Tate or.
Or, you know, like you need.
Conformity.
It's more, there's more freedom here, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's, like, there's always people talking shit about America and things are bad, obviously.
But also, it is the greatest force of freedom ever that I have ever felt in my life.
You know, the cars, the guns, the land, the spirit.
Like going to school here, like how we talked about, going to high school here, I was like, oh, on top of the world.
I was like, this is so amazing.
I love this, this how I feel here.
Yeah.
How I feel in LA.
It's unique.
Yeah.
And no pronoun, craziness, propaganda, political thing, homelessness, can take that away from it.
Yeah.
You know?
So you're a glass half-full guy.
You're looking at like, and I felt like this.
My older brother, you know, I'd mentioned him a few minutes ago.
He moved out of California last year.
He couldn't take it anymore.
He had kids that were like valedictorian in their class,
didn't get into a single Ivy League school, perfect SAT scores,
just genius, my nephews, God love them, they're being brilliant.
And he was just like, no, but if they were, you know, a different minority,
a persecutor or whatever, they would have gotten in or done their other thing.
But also even, like, you see schools where I teach, you know,
it wasn't, like, easy for them to get in.
There's a lot of regulations.
So he moved out.
And I felt like, and he was like, come with me.
You know, he moved to a freer,
state. I'm not going to say exactly where, but he moved to a freer state. And he's like,
come with me. Like, why are you staying there? Your older brother, your best friend, you know, he was
my male role model when my mom was single, right? So I only had him. He's three years older. And he taught
me about what it's like to be a man, got married first, had kids for him. So he's like, come with
me. You know, let's let's, you know, let's be free. And I thought, well, you know, besides the fact that
my wife would probably kill me, I mean, she's a multiple generation in San Diego, California.
and I have a whole community, I have a job, I have a laboratory, I have students, and everything.
But besides that, you know, I felt like if you can't be happy here, like he wasn't happy here,
I kind of felt like it was on him.
I almost feel like in this land of opportunity and L.A. and Southern California is like the
opportunity capital of the land of opportunity.
If you can't be happy or sorry to say, I kind of think you're a loser.
Like, there's so much to offer.
It's like Gavin Newsom doesn't, even though he's my boss, literally.
He's my boy.
I mean, he controls the regents of the California State University system
that I'm a member of.
I'm a public employee.
If he makes me happy or unhappy,
as opposed to, like, squeezing my kid's hand
on the beach in San Diego,
I mean, I'm a freaking loser.
If I allow anyone to take my sovereignty
of being a man and being happy and providing for me.
No, so I don't need, I can be free here.
Now, someday, there may come a time
when maybe it's not so free,
and then I would reserve the opportunity and the option.
Maybe I would need to move to another state.
But I was born and, you know,
I was born an American, I'm going to die an American.
And even I like to point out, California was incorporated on my birthday, September 9, 1849.
So it's a, you know, just meant to be.
No, and I also don't believe in running away.
Yeah.
I don't believe, that's why also, like, obviously, like, doing all these podcasts.
At the end of the day, you feel like you just should, like, go to the woods anyways and, like, you know, turn all the electricity off and, like, throw your iPhone as far as away, break it, leave it far away, right?
Flush it, grow your own vegetables.
hunt your own meat, you go completely crazy.
So I rather, I don't know, I want to, I'm a front man.
Like, I always like to be on the front of problems.
And if I don't like to like disengage and like run away from things.
Like if it's bad here, I'll stay right here and I'll fight from right here, you know.
Yeah, it's like a Buddhist saying, you know, wherever you go, there you are.
You know, you're the only constant in your life.
You're the only one who's going to be there like the moment you die.
Like, yeah, hopefully you'll be surrounded people that love you,
replaying memories in your mind of the happiest days of your life but there's a finite amount of
time but you're all you have with you when you're driving I'm driving up here I'm listening to music
I'm watching your old shows kind of getting to know stuff thinking about what I want to talk about
I did another podcast on my way up in Orange County and and I'm like I'm alone and I'm so
glad that I miss them and I'm going to get to like think about it you kind of like I get to put
to bed like the most important people who have ever lived in human history the people that give me
and they just do it for free like I don't face it.
them to do it like I give everything right and as I said when I'm 80 90, 90, 100 on my deathbed,
you could drop a trillion bucks on me. It's not going to do anything for me. It's going to be the
memories that you retire on and the dividends that you paid by virtue of the relationships that
you made. And that's why I feel like, you know, it's kind of like a gift. So I said I'm Jewish.
So we do every, you know, Friday and Saturday night, we do, we do this ritual where we
disconnect. I don't tweet. You never know, I don't go on Instagram, tech, I don't do anything.
I mean, I have a team and they do stuff for me. But, you know, it's not like Europe. I'm explaining
to you how social media works.
but the point is
I don't generate stuff
I rest and I do my own work
which is family spiritual
you know cohesiveness community
you know like being a leader
in my in the Jewish community
in that sense
and it gives me that refresh
once a week if I could tell any
one piece of advice like graduation tips
or whatever it's the you know season of graduation
Father's Day season it would be
take a day you have to take a day off
or you're a slave I don't care how much
you love what you do or I would do
signs all day long. We haven't even talked about my
signs. I hope we get into it. I built
telescopes. I've launched rockets into
space. I've been to the highest points
in South America. I've been to South Pole,
Antarctica. A thousand people
have ever been there. And I
would do that for free. I get paid. I'm a
state employee, so I get paid. But
I would do it for free. Don't tell Newsom. I hope
you're not watching Gabby boy.
Because you'll dock my pay. I know you need
to pay off the debt. But
that's an addiction, right?
I don't care what it is. Like people, I know
billionaires, they can't stop working.
I'm like, come down, hang out, you know, hang out, we'll go in the mountains and go for,
I can't, I'm like, you're a billionaire.
Like, what are you talking about?
You have to do this?
You know, you want to do that, but that doesn't mean that you're not a slave.
And so in the Torah and the Bible in the Old Testament, it says, you shall take this time
up because God rested.
I mean, God is, you know, if you believe in a mount out, I don't care.
But the point is, if this omnipotent being had to rest to take time off, then all the more
so a fragile human being has just made a dust and, you know, a couple of elements, compounds,
and whatever, we need to rest.
And that's time for me to bond with the people that matter most.
And it's not the Instagram followers and not that.
It's going to be the people that I cultivate a life with.
And so that's my one piece of advice.
It's just like do the things that would damage you if they're taken away,
but also lean into rest.
And it's not being lazy like just watching the football game.
That doesn't count.
It's like active rest.
Like how do you do stuff working out, go for a hike,
go for a swim, surf, do what you do, get outside.
Because those memories get,
imprinted especially in our kids
and that's what they're going to remember
and that's all you are. All we are are memories.
Do you know the name of your great-great-grandfather?
Probably not.
You know, like three generations.
That's all we get.
We get our three, like we get your grandfather.
You probably know what your grandfather was
and you get maybe, hopefully your grandson,
maybe a great-grandson.
You started young.
You're a sly devil, man.
You started younger than me.
So you'll get a great-grandchild, God-willing.
So maybe six, seven-generates.
That's it.
That's it.
No one else will ever know your name.
And that should be like,
like motivational, not to be like, oh, this is meaningless.
No, I got to invest in those seven generations spanning plus and minus 100 years or so.
I got to invest in that because that's all that's left.
That's all we know about until we get the Matrix and upload everything.
No, and you're saying that it doesn't really, like in a beautiful way,
it doesn't matter what you do.
It does matter, but also you should just not take yourself so serious.
You don't need to be afraid of negative comments online.
It all doesn't matter really because if you do what you believe in, that's all that matters.
If you fight for your truth, if you live for your kids, if you raise your family and nobody sees the time you put in and all the work, but you enjoy every moment with them, that's all that matters.
And like Joe Rogan, if you do this podcast and it doesn't make money, but you enjoy doing that, if you would do it anyways for free, you know, I always tell people,
like social media is not for everybody because I love shooting TikToks.
I do that shift for free.
I know.
I would do that any day because it's so fun.
For me, it's work.
You know, it was even more fun when we didn't make money.
And now you make money, it takes a little bit away even from the fun.
Because you got sponsors.
Yeah.
And they, it's like it's not as fun anymore because before he was just for fun, 100% for fun, right?
It was pure.
It was pure.
Yeah.
It's so amazing.
I mean, think about like this job that only existed like six years ago.
you know at most or whatever and now it gives meaning to you it gives you resources to protect your
family and to defend you know your way of life it's really incredible but it's fragile too you're building
this castle this this fortress but it's on it's on the sand of the beach and and it could go away
you know hopefully TikTok they'll find some way to to get you guys you know taking care of i've only
have you know 200 followers on TikTok but it doesn't lend itself as well i mean i know people like
meal de grass tyson and others do all at it but for me it's like i like the long form stuff
I like a deep conversation.
And I made a compromise that I would do things remotely
because I started during COVID in 2020.
I know that's when you guys started off like more in earnest in your journey.
But for the interviews, it was just like it was illegal to travel.
I mean, basically in this state, they shut down my lab,
they shut down my office.
So I couldn't have people coming in.
I've done more in person lately.
But for me, yeah, the joy is just like the knowledge, the ideas.
Because this book, the only other way that you can get like immortality
is having something written.
Like, the printed word
and the written word
goes back 5,000 years, right?
The invention of language
is uniquely human.
It's one of the few things.
We share 99% of our chromosomes
with freaking chimpanzees, right?
So that's not what makes us unique.
It's not that we have less hair
than a chimpanzee or whatever.
No, it's actually that we have language
and we can communicate,
we can build societies,
we can cooperate,
and we can have influence in those ways.
And people have an influence over it.
But another way you can do it
is by using the written word,
word and having a written word as a testament as a will you can write your will while you're alive
and then that will will will contain messages that your great good good grandchildren can read there's no
doubt that like people will know your voice and so much stuff online and content wise but the
written word is much more persistent and there's a law called lindy's law basically means the longer
something's been around for the longer it's likely to last for so Microsoft office you know as
crappy as Microsoft Windows or Dosses, it's been around 40 years. So it's likely to last another
40 years. TikTok has been around six years, so it's likely to last at least another six years. But
maybe not more. You know, might last six more months. Who knows? So leaning into stuff like
printing press, written word 5,000 years, it's likely to last another 5,000 years. So for me,
I wanted to write one book at first, and that was just to give a testimony of what it's like
to be a scientist, to aspire to get the diamond plaque of science, which is called the Nell Bell
prize. That's the highest accolade in all of science. And I claim it's the highest accolade that human
beings have to offer. Nobody says, like, who should you vote for president to some, you know,
to someone who won a Tony Award? You can't even name their names. But every year, they're asking
like, what should we do? What science policies? What technology? What energy policies?
What should we adopt? And they ask people that won the Nobel Prize. So that is good, but it also
comes with a risk that people will start to worship this the way that people worship followers
or worship Oscars and Academy Awards and stuff like that. And just as you look at these Oscar winning
actors, they're not always so happy. Look at like Alec Baldwin. Like the guy doesn't seem super
Robert De Niro, you know, like he seems like an angry pissed off grandpa, right? He's not like
some guy I want to be, you know, when I'm in my 80s. So the point is there's a danger and
anything that's good is a double-edged sword. It could also be used for something that's bad.
and for me it was fighting this battle
that I was always obsessed
with wanting to win the Nobel Prize as a kid
that's the only way I thought
I could be better than my dad
who was a scientist too
but he never won a Nobel Prize
I felt like after he abandoned me
and my brother I was going to show him
by winning a Nobel Prize
to prove to him that he should have not
abandoned me my mother and my brother
of course I didn't do that
spoiler alert the book's called
losing the Nobel Prize
but it's a memoir it's a story of what it's like
to be a scientist trying to do the ultimate thing
coming up short
and then what do you do after?
Like most of the time you fail in life.
You ever notice that?
Like you spend most of your time like aspiring to something
but not actually getting there.
And once you get like you're fit.
You're lifting weights.
Like if you stop right now,
it doesn't matter how much work you did.
It would eventually dissipate and you'd atrophy
and you wouldn't have the muscles and the and you start eating whatever you want.
So you have to constantly do that.
So you can't be fit forever.
You have to constantly work on it.
Same with being happy.
You can't be happy.
You could only be.
become happy. You can only work towards being happy and then that process of trying to aspire
towards happiness becomes a permanent state. But you never reach like, I'm happy. Because the next
day, your kid could get a sprained ankle and you're devastated, right? So the point is, in my world,
we want to aspire to win these kind of golden, literally golden necklaces that you wear if you win it.
And it's the highest thing you could possibly aspire to. Now, the reason I want to win it is because
I wanted to understand what happened at the Big Bang. Like, that's my focus.
in my research. So it was for a good reason, but even good reasons can lead you down the wrong path.
And so it's a cautionary kind of autobiography in a sense.
Tell me about your books.
Yeah.
So this one here is called Losing the Nobel Prize.
So it's a memoir of being a scientist of building a telescope that could see back in time.
So when you and I look at each other, I don't see you instantaneously the way you are right this
millisecond nanosecond.
Because light, as fast as it travels, it takes a billionth of a number.
a second to travel one foot or, you know, three billion seconds to travel a meter.
So that means I'm seeing you as you were like a few light nanoseconds ago, a few nanoseconds
ago.
Now, it doesn't make a difference at this kind of scale.
But if you look out into the sun and you see the sun, we're not seeing the sun right now.
We're seeing it as it was eight minutes ago.
That means mind-blowingly, the sun could have vanished.
Like at this instant, we won't find out for eight more minutes.
Now, the likelihood of that happening is very low, but it's theoretically possible.
But there's certainly stars, even in L.A. that you can go out and see at night, that are no longer there.
But they have this tube of light that's been traveling for millions of years, perhaps, coming towards us in different directions.
And it's telling us what was that star like, a billion, a million years ago if it's a galaxy, a billion years ago if it's a galaxy.
And it's a time machine.
It allows us to look back in time.
I invented a type of telescope that could look back to the very beginning of all of time, not just to the sun,
not just to the galaxy, but to the Big Bang.
It's called the Big Bang, the origin of the universe.
It's a very special telescope.
It doesn't use light.
It uses microwaves, radio waves,
wavelengths that are much longer than what the human eye can perceive.
And it needs to do that for technical reasons,
but the main focus of the telescope, no pun intended,
was to capture the birth of the Big Bang.
No one's ever seen it before.
We've seen leftovers, like imagine the Big Bang is like an explosion.
We've seen the heat from the explosion,
you know, a couple of milliseconds later, so to speak.
but you know where firework goes off
there's like that center burst
you want to understand that center
that point of first explosion
and understand
was that the beginning of time
have you ever thought about this
if time began
then there was a moment
a second ago
that time didn't exist
so does that make sense
to think about time
when time has a beginning
everything in life that we've seen
that we witnessed
you can trace it back to some cause
right so you were born
because your parents had their own big bang
nine months before you were born, et cetera, et cetera.
And that goes back 200,000 years,
million years to humanity's birth.
And the Earth has a big bang when it formed.
Our sun had it formed.
Our galaxy had a formation.
So you can always go back, back in time.
But then if the universe began at one point in time,
then you can't ask what happened the day before that.
It doesn't make sense.
Because the concept of time came into existence
on a specific moment.
And so we're trying to capture that moment.
But we're not sure if it happened.
We thought we saw it back in 24.
10 years ago, exactly.
We claimed we saw it.
It was on the New York Times,
CNN, all around the world,
and we were going to win the Nobel Prize.
But it turned out what we saw instead
were microscopic versions of this.
This is a meteorite,
and giving it to you, and you give it to your sons.
And you can feel it, and it's pretty heavy, right?
So I can feel it.
It's made of iron, of cobald, of nickel.
I give these away on my website
at Briancadding.com to a couple people a month.
And it's heavy.
It's heavy.
It's dense.
and it's made from the same material
that the Earth is made of
and it's as older than the Earth.
It's 4 billion years old.
So you can have a piece of 4 billion-year-old stuff
and it's amazing to feel it tangibly.
But not only is that this landed in Argentina
about 1,500 years ago, 2,000 years ago,
and then I collect this yours and you keep it.
So these meteorites also exist in the universe
and the solar system and in the galaxy.
and what we thought we saw as the Big Bang itself
was actually an explosion of those if you think about it.
And that was kind of a very depressing moment.
We thought we saw the Big Bang,
we thought we saw the origin of time,
but really we saw basically chunks of rock and dust.
As cool as that is,
that doesn't tell us about the origin of time, though, does it?
So we're back at the drawing board now.
We're building a bigger telescope
and more capability to see farther back in time
and not only look for the thing that we're looking for,
which is the Big Bang,
train the telescope specifically out for those contaminating particles of dust.
So we've had a design and reorient our whole modality of thinking.
How do we actually obtain the evidence for the Big Bang and the origin of time in a polluted galaxy
that's fill of this dust and garbage that we want to get rid of?
So that's our current challenge.
We have a new experiment called the Simons Observatory in Chile, which is that that original
experiment is at the South Pole.
That's shown here.
So that's in Antarctica.
It's like the middle of Antarctica, 9,000 feet above sea level, pure ice in all directions.
It's dark.
The sun is down six months of the year.
Right now it's down.
It's like totally dark for every day, every hour, every day until the beginning of September, middle of September.
And then it comes up again.
And this experiment made this mistake that we claim we did it.
And everyone said, oh, you're going to win a Nobel Prize.
And then it got taken away.
Then the second book that I wrote after I started my podcast,
podcast in 2020, I started a podcast called Into the Impossible. And it's based on a quote, which I like to ask
people, I'll ask you this, you know, I'll turn the tables on the podcast here in a minute.
But I always ask people like, what gave you the courage to do the impossible, to go into the
impossible? And but for me, it was the fact that I interviewed Nobel Prize winning physicist and
scientist on my podcast at UC San Diego. And I wanted to take their lessons of what they did as a
scientist and change that to so that somebody who was a mechanic in a car dealership or whatever,
can they learn things? Because you ever meet someone who's like super smart, but they have no
common sense? Like a lot of professors are like this. They're like brilliant. They can talk about
esoteric stuff and very erudite philosophical, but they can't like figure out like where the bananas
are at the supermarket. They're just functionally illiterate and dumb, but they're incredibly brilliant.
So I want to see, is it possible to get wisdom from pure knowledge?
So I've distilled what they have taught me into nine lessons.
It's kind of based on a book by Tim Ferriss called Tribe of Mentors,
where he took the people he interviewed, distilled it, wrote a book about their hottest tips.
But it's really a self-help book on how to be a good communicator, collaborator,
how to look at evidence, how to look at not as a science book.
There's no equations in it.
but how to live your life when you're looking for advice on complicated systems that nobody ever tells you about.
Imagine if you're working, you got a social media manager, your wife, or whatever,
and they're also kind of your competitor because they want to win the Nobel Prize too.
How do you work with somebody?
How do you cooperate with a competitor?
Those are things that scientists have to do.
And always battling for funding, for attention, for credit, for abilities.
And it's a game, but it's a very interesting and fun game.
So I wanted to distill that into this book.
And I'm working on a second edition of it now.
I've interviewed 20 people that have won the Nobel Prize so far.
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Is the Nobel Prize still
of what it used to be?
In some fields,
in physics, it is.
There's six prizes.
There's a prize for physics, chemistry.
There's a prize for medicine,
which is sometimes biology.
there's a prize for literature,
there's a prize for peace,
and there's a prize for economics.
And the economics and peace prizes
have become not worthless
because people still want to win them
because you still get like a million dollars
and you get a huge attention
and you're famous for the rest of your life
and you can consult on boards
and write books and everything.
But they're not what they used to be.
They've been given to terrorists.
The Peace Prize has been given to terrorists.
The literature prize
has been given to like, you know,
whatever you think, like Bob Dylan or, you know, some people from writing like some obscure African poem or something, you know, whatever.
It might be interesting and culturally important, but it's become a little bit politicized, those two prizes.
It was woke.
Exactly. And even the science prize are starting to get maybe a little bit with some of their agendas, but mostly it's been purified.
There's been some of the medical prize. You know, they gave it to the CRISPR a couple of years ago, and they gave it to the current COVID.
vaccine. We shouldn't say that way. They gave it to the
blovid blacks in ablation so we don't get
YouTube demonetize you.
So they gave it to those this past year
which is very controversial I think.
People believe that now it's
coming out. There are a lot of injuries from it.
And so
yeah, it's become a mixed bag, but
it's still in the hard sciences, physics
and chemistry, it's still the most prestigious
thing you could possibly win.
Okay. And you still want to win it?
Well,
like the grammars, you know?
Exactly. Yeah.
Well, we're great Drake is not even showing up to the Grammings and no more.
Yeah, I aspired to be science as Drake.
Did they give one Nobel Prize to that girl?
Greta?
Greta Thunberg? Not yet.
I predict they will in the next 10 years.
They should.
They're going to give her one.
Yeah, that would be the guy.
Some credibility.
They gave it to, so we just had graduation at UCSD and we had,
Al Gore was there, so he won the Nobel Prize for predicting the world would, you know,
be radically unlivable by 10 years ago.
But thankfully, it's been proven wrong.
But no, in all seriousness, there are good people that work on the atmospheric chemistry and stuff.
But why do it become politicized?
Because it's so valuable and so rare.
There are more people in the NBA than have won the Nobel Prize in physics.
I mean, like, it's insane to think about it when you consider how few people have it.
So anything that's rare, it's like a monopoly.
And when you have a monopoly, what does the monopoly most want?
Most of all, to keep the monopoly going.
So it can keep printing up money and it can keep doing its thing.
well, they don't make money for the Nobel Committee,
but they get a lot of attention
and they get celebration.
And it's like the world economic...
And any of these things,
they get prestige by conferring the prizes on other people.
So why is Klaus Schwab, you know, famous?
So famous that Joe Rogan over his urinal
has a picture of...
So I'm like staring into Klaus Schwab's eyes
on trying to, like, do my business.
It's very unsettling down there in Austin.
So, yeah, so they esteem themselves.
They acquire prestige.
based on who they give it to,
not really necessarily what they themselves do.
All right.
Yeah.
So, you know, the science really keeps you busy
and it's the most important thing
other than, you know, the family
and keeping, you know, keeping this sense
of like, I get paid to do something I would do for free
and the podcast and the YouTube and whatever.
It's fun to do that.
I get, you know, I've noticed things change
as I got more and more subscribers that, you know,
I could get, like if I want to,
wanted to get on Malcolm Gladwell, like a famous author.
You know, they wouldn't pick up my, they wouldn't answer my email, you know, a couple
years ago.
Now I've got over, you know, 250,000 subscribers.
So I'll just put that in the email.
And then most people want to talk to somebody that has a quarter million, that has had on
20 Nobel Prize winners and four Pulitzer Prize winners and has written four or five
books and has a title.
But still, there are people that, you know, I don't know if Malcolm will come on my podcast
or whatever.
I don't know if I necessarily need them to or want them to.
But the fact is, you know, getting to talk to people that I want to talk to.
So what I do is not just looking through a telescope.
That's what got me hooked on science, was looking through a telescope and seeing the moon has craters on it.
Like you have you ever seen the moon through a telescope?
I think so.
No, you would know it.
You haven't.
No, you haven't.
You haven't seen Saturn.
No, I know.
But you got to, okay.
So next time I'm going to bring up a telescope or you come and visit me in San Diego.
I'll get a telescope at my work
and I'll take you outside to the desert
and when you see it, the moon,
it's impossible not to feel something
that they first felt exactly 400 years ago.
So Galileo was the first person to ever take a telescope,
which is like a camera, it's just a camera,
and look at the sky.
Instead of having a detector, it has your eye and it has your retina.
And he looked at it and he saw craters
and it allowed him to think a new scientific thought
that no one in thousands of years of human history had ever thought,
which is the moon is not perfect.
It's just like the earth.
It has mountains.
He thought it had rivers on it, has canyons on it.
It has not water on it, but it had some kind of flowing lava.
It's obvious when you look at it.
But you can only see it through a telescope.
A human eye for God or whoever designed us
didn't make our eyes powerful enough to see craters.
You need to invent something to perfect our understanding of the universe.
Another thing you can see are the rings of Saturn.
You can see the moons around Jupiter.
And I can show you a galaxy.
The galaxy is so far away that the light that you'll see, when I show it to you, left that galaxy
2,500,000 years ago when humans didn't exist, when there were like, you know, kind of hybrids
of monkeys and men living in Africa.
And then we evolved later.
And in that time, imagine a tube of light, you know, coming, streaming.
It has no other.
It's just, you cannot stop it.
It's coming inevitably inexorably.
It's coming to your eye.
and you get to see it,
you cannot help but become a scientist.
And that's why I'll get one for your kids,
because even a cheap one, even from L.A.,
it doesn't matter.
You can see the same craters that Galileo saw in northern Italy
in the year 1609 that changed the course of human history.
You can't do that with any other,
you can't do that with like, oh, you look at a cell and a micro-score.
Oh, that's still cool.
I'm not going to denigrate that.
But when you look through a telescope, you become a scientist.
And that's what happened to me.
I don't get to do that every day.
A lot of times I'm like, how do I get this contractor to like not sue our, you know,
because they stub their toe at 17,000, you know, or like how do I get some concrete to this place
or cover this, this, when you're up at 17,000 feet, the oxygen is half of what it is here.
You have to breathe through a cannula, through oxygen that goes into your nose.
If you don't, you'll pass out.
You could die.
I could have a heart attack.
So you have carry oxygen with you.
It's half the pressure here.
The sun is so intense.
If you have your skin out, you'll get burned immediately.
There's powerful lightning strikes.
There's snowstorms.
There's an active volcano a couple of kilometers away.
That spews out lava.
It's incredible.
Place is very dangerous.
Where's that?
This is in the Otacama Desert.
It's northern Chile.
So it's in the Andes Mountains.
So some of these mountains are 5,200, 7,000 meters high, 6,000 meters high.
They're enormous mountains.
Second only to like Mount Everest in the Himalayas.
And those kind of experience.
that I have, that's very rare.
I don't get to go down there that much.
It's a big trip. It costs a lot of money.
There's a lot of safety precautions.
You have to take a health test, stress test, heart.
If you have a heart attack, you're done.
Because the nearest hospital is an hour plane ride away
if you could even get a plane, which you can't.
So you're going to die.
If you have a wisdom tooth that starts to,
you're going to go crazy, you're going to evacuate you.
So it's a very strictly controlled place.
South Pole is even worse.
It's even harder to get there.
You can only get in or out to the South Pole
for a three-month window in the entire year.
And if you miss the last flight in February,
you're stuck there until November.
Because if a plane lands there, Ken,
the gas inside the plane will freeze up.
It's so cold.
It could be 100 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.
So you have that so cold
that the fuel will freeze up
and the plane will basically break apart.
And so these planes cost $10,000 million bucks
so they don't want to waste a plane
just because, you know,
Ken had a toothache from eating too much candy.
So the point is,
they're very strictly regulated,
but we don't get to go there that much because it's very remote, very difficult to get to.
We go there because the views of the sky that we're looking at,
the type of wavelengths that we're looking at,
are only observable from certain places.
You can't do it from here in L.A.
It's too difficult.
It's too much water in the atmosphere and energy in the atmosphere,
and it doesn't allow the light from the Big Bang to get through.
So that's what we're looking for.
But most of the time it's like, oh, I just hired a new student,
and I have to get, you know, she's from India,
I have to get this paperwork,
and then I have to submit that to the dean. Oh, the dean didn't agree with it. You know,
this is like crazy. And so the amount of time I get to do science, you know, I heard a study like,
you play football. If you watch the NFL game, it's an hour of clock time, right? But the ball's only
moving for two minutes. If you think about it, the balls, you know, it takes two seconds to throw
it 100 yards. So they could have, you know, the whole 10 passes in 20 seconds or something like
that, right? So the amount of elapsed time is very low. But, you know, what we're doing,
most of the time we're spending is not doing the cool scientific stuff it's preparing to do it
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I get education from it.
I learn about other topics, even though it's science.
Like lately you've gotten very interested in a search for aliens
and whether or not aliens exist in the universe.
I think that's probably next to what I do,
like discovering if time began,
it's probably the most interesting thing.
Are we alone in the universe?
Do you think we are?
Do you think they're aliens?
I don't know.
After listening so long to Joe Rogan, it would be hard.
Well, I've really gotten into this like that we're not the most advanced society
that has ever lived, especially with the pyramids and all this technology and the gold.
And it feels like there must have been a very advanced society and then something happened for sure.
that we are like the
pentacle of advanced society
I can't wrap my head around
because it feels like we have all these things
on the planet that we cannot describe
where they come from who made them
why they made them a certain way
they're too perfect
especially with the pyramids
yeah I mean that's
that's an argument
I've heard that before or two
yeah the pyramids
I've even seen like some funny depictions
Like if you think the pyramids are cool
Imagine that they're just like the tip of this huge obelisk
That's like a hundred miles deep under the you know
Like imagine that but you know as far as we know
There's not them so the challenge with science
And where it differs from religion
Which I'm obviously sympathetic to
But but we have this kind of notion
Of the God of the gaps in religion
Like if you can't understand something
Well that's where God made the intervention
So like for example
but there's no missing link.
No one's ever found like a half monkey,
literally a half monkey or ape or hominid,
common ancestor,
and half human.
So that's called the missing link.
And only if we found that,
then we'd have,
but people say,
well,
it's very rare.
Like,
there's only, like,
maybe 10,000 fossils total
in the whole world in every museum.
So, like,
you think you're going to find that one transitional species,
you know,
like you're being,
that's too rare.
So instead, they say,
no, God did it.
God had a purpose,
designed us.
And every time you see,
like,
here's the matrix,
right?
So this come from a mom,
Did the code come from a mind?
Like, have we ever found language inside of a cave, like hieroglyphics on the pyramid, right?
You could say that, oh, the wind blew some sand, and it made these patterns, right?
But that's ludicrous.
Like some person chiseled into the stone with the rock and a hammer.
So some intelligence is behind the writing.
Similarly, they'll say, well, if you get digital information,
you have digital information zeros and ones in your computer
and transmitting this over the Internet, speed of light.
That's also zeros and ones.
That traces to a code.
It's called binary code,
and it gets translated into higher languages.
At the end, some person programmed that language.
Some person will be decoding that, right?
I'm speaking.
I'm intelligent.
I'm speaking a language.
You interpret that language,
and then that gets transmitted through the whole world.
So every time we see information,
we like to think that it was created by an intelligent designer
who knew how to make that information.
So, too, when people see DNA,
DNA is not zeros and ones, it's 0123.
It's a 4-bit code.
It's GCTA.
So it's four amino acid bases that make up the DNA structure
and they mate in just the right pattern
and that allows replication and storage of information.
Some say, well, that's information.
You never find information without a mind.
So there must have been a designer that made that.
So that's an argument called the God of the Gatton.
If you don't have an explanation for something,
God will always be sufficient explanation
to cause the phenomena that you observe, right?
You could always say, even if I said lightning is caused by clouds
rubbing together charged particles and makes thunder,
you could say, no, it's actually God, Thor, and Thor is doing it.
No, I can't disprove that.
But also, it's not powerful.
It's not explanatory.
I'd rather have a scientific explanation that can explain many more things than just thunder.
It also explains electricity and magnetism and conductivity and all sorts of
of other phenomena.
So you'd like to have a scientific explanation.
But there are things we can't explain by science.
And that's where I think you, to be respectful to you,
you're saying I can't understand, or we can't,
or Joe Rogan, or his experts,
can't understand how this information called a pyramid,
which is highly accurate in design in advance,
more advanced than we can't even do it today, right?
The argument that we couldn't build that today.
Although I wonder if we could.
But we can build one in Las Vegas.
You ever been there.
They have that.
They have the Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty.
But the point is, just because we can't explain it,
doesn't mean that there's no explanation of it other than, say, a God,
or an advanced civilization, which basically you're saying is more advanced than us.
Therefore, it's kind of like a God.
Again, respectfully.
Some people would say that we are God, and God is in all of us, right?
And we're all God.
You could say that.
Yeah, you could say that, although in my religion, so your name's Jacob, right?
you're not a pot that can i say that it's not can so jacob in the in the old testament in the Torah his name
is changed uh he's originally called called jacob and then he fights with an angel of god and
and he beats the angel which is basically like saying he fought god and won and his name gets
changed to israel so the word israel is synonymous with jacob and jacob by the way do you know
what it means in hebrew no it means ankle it means ankle
because Jacob was a twin. Literally the ankle.
Yes. So Jacob was a twin.
His older brother was called Asov.
And Asov was born first.
And so they were twins. They came out.
And he came out grabbing onto the ankle of his older brother as if he wanted to be the firstborn.
Because back then, in biblical times, if you were the firstborn, you got all the riches, all the spoils, everything, you got twice as much money, power, women, everything you want.
It was always the firstborn. So he wanted to be the firstborn, even in the womb.
So that's the biblical and origin of Jacob. That's what it means.
but then change to Israel.
What does Israel mean?
It means fights with God in one.
So we have this power.
We're kind of like a bit,
we can wrestle with God.
Now another interpretation is that
we should always struggle
with the concept of God.
We shouldn't easily accept
that God exists.
We should battle and try to come to that
through knowledge,
not only through faith.
We should have faith.
We should believe in God
or Jesus if you're Christian,
but you should wrestle with that concept.
And so, yes,
we are kind of Godlike
compared to people 10 years ago, five years ago.
I mean, imagine COVID without, or glovid,
without like high-speed internet or Netflix
and YouTube and TikTok.
It would have been very different mental.
Maybe it would be better.
I don't know.
What do you think?
Well, some people would say that the AIDS crisis
was COVID without the internet.
Well, Fauci was involved with both of them.
I never heard that.
So, you mean, well, the AIDS crisis, yeah,
was certainly.
very traumatic.
Yeah.
Where there was a lot of things that they did wrong
and it wasn't so easily detected or publicized online.
So some people would say that that would be like...
Oh, I see what you mean.
Yeah.
So it would spread more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And nowadays, like, we have so much information, so much wrong information and right information.
But we live like in this information thing where you can just go online and talk
and have people talk to you and talk to other people.
And it's great and dangerous and crazy,
but it's, it's really cool because I feel like it can,
like it really made me look for things.
And it's much easier than if you have to, like, go out and find you somewhere in the village
and then, like, I get to see you and, like, I can ask you things, right?
And I can just, like, I listen to Joe Rogan for 500 hours,
but I've never met the guy.
So I don't know
It's amazing
I think we live in
I'm a very optimistic guy
I think we live in the
in an amazing time
Oh I do too
Where we still have the freedom
To talk to each other
And and get things like blow it
Out of the way
You know
No I
You know kind of see it the same way
The challenge is yeah
Everything is a double-edged sword
You know
It can cut for good
Or can cut for bad
How do you prevent
Like do you have a
Have you ever had this experience
Like your son comes up to you
tries to swipe like your face
like they're so used to like being on screens
at least in my household
that my kids are older but
do you have a strategy
or a set plan
for when they get old enough
for how they're going to combat
the challenges of social media
when they have the one of the world's most famous
influencers whatever
and you have to balance that
because what are you going to say
no you don't call it, it's terrible
you're like that's a big part of your life
I don't know when I look at my parents
I think it will be almost naive
to think that I would know
their generational struggle
that's going to come their way.
Because I know my struggle, and I know
my generational struggle, but
what they will face,
they will be naive of me to
think I have the answers, I think, because
they will face a whole nother. Maybe they have
to fight some sort of microchip
thing that he doesn't get
or he needs to get a certain
program in the chip that like
Elon makes or somebody else makes or
you don't want to get that chip. I don't know.
Like, you know, it's so far, like you said, like explain TikTok to your grandfather, you know, like, or like hate comments, how to deal with hate comments to your grandfather, right?
It's very obscure for him.
So I think, like, I don't, he will, I think I can only make him as resilient, honest, truthful and strong person that he will be, once the time comes, he will know how to face his generational problems.
I feel like I can make him relentless and strong
but when the time comes I will not have the answers I think
right you'll have to equip I will be too old
I'll be too old you know if they don't like
freshen up all those connections
I don't know I'll be too old I think it's
I think it's a beautiful way to think about it
and that kind of puts pressure on you to
you know put them on the right track
when you can because eventually
yeah I mean my oldest is you know just now
he still, you know, loves to be with me
and claims I'm, you know, his top 10, my favorite,
no, he says I'm his favorite person,
or my wife's his favorite.
Old is he?
Old is 13.
So, and then we got down to six-year-old.
But the attention that he has,
the amount of time we're spending together,
and people say, like, oh, you shouldn't, like,
brainwash your kids and you shouldn't bribe your kids.
No, absolutely not.
I think you have to.
You have to encourage it.
Because, like, if it was enough to just convince someone logically,
You ever tell your kid to say please or thank you when you're on a restaurant?
Yes and no.
I don't know.
It's, bro, parenting is...
I know.
There's no handbook.
I don't know if I want to be this kind of boomer that is like, say, please, say please.
It's also like...
Sometimes when he question things and he really pushes your buttons,
I feel like it's also beautiful because he's not like this slave yet
that is just like bows down and yes, yes, dad.
That's why you know what's interesting.
Yes, I'll go.
to bed, sir, yes sir, I don't know if I want him even to be like that, you know.
Sometimes he says bad words and we all laugh because we're like, it's just a word.
Like, it doesn't harm anybody.
If it wasn't German, you would not even notice, right?
So it's just a thing that like you create and when you say it to me, it harms me and I created this whole thing.
Right.
That's a story.
Yeah.
You tell yourself.
Yeah, I mean, the most common word that a baby will say first is usually no, which I was so.
Why is that?
Not yes.
But why is that important?
Because if you say yes, I'm just agreeing with what you told me to do or what you want me to do.
I say, no, I'm asserting my own individuality.
And that gives me freedom.
Freedom and sovereignty.
Might be the most freedom you could ever feel is that moment you learn no.
No, you're driving license and your gun.
I think once you know that you can say no to things.
Yes.
Yes.
Once my son figured out that he cannot go to school, that's when the magic happens.
Right.
But he's like, actually, I can say no to things.
And you live for that.
I do teach him.
I always tell him, like, you can say no to a hug.
You don't have to say hi to everybody.
You know, like you can decline if you're not about it.
That's right.
You don't have to admit to this like when a big person comes upon you kind of.
Right, because you're just training them to be subservient and to, you know, bow down to authority.
And in fact, there's a famous saying about good scientists.
So a good scientist is one who believes that other scientists are wrong.
not that they're right
so a lot of people say
oh you're just a gatekeeper
like I do a lot of
debunking videos on my channel
like people say the moon landing
never happened
or this guy
Karen's Howard was on
Joe Rogan
and he made all these statements
like one times one
equals two
and which
you know
according to mathematics
not true
or he made a claim
that all chemicals
have tones and frequencies
and some are bisexual
and you know
factually objectively
wrong
and so I went through and had a conversation with my friend Eric Weinstein about it
and I did a video by myself about this appearance by this conspiracy theorist on Joe Rogan
named Bart Sibrell who claims that the moon landings never happened.
It was faked and staged and, you know, this is like the greatest accomplishment of America.
You know, I just love it.
And so I made a debunking video and you should see the comment.
They're all like, you're just a gatekeeper, you're a stooge, you just want big science,
you're just speaking for NASA and blah blah blah you're a tool you're a grifter you're all this crazy stuff
I'm just like um no actually here's the scientific proof that they went to the moon it's uh and not to say
that no conspiracies ever happened that would be an objectively foolish stupid thing to say
but in this case you happen to be wrong you're invested in it for some reason that's not scientific
you want to believe it's true or terence harrow i don't know why he's getting into it he might be
you know having a mental you know he might be a genius but i'm not because of you're not because
because of this, he might be a genius actor.
But I love the fact that, like, I can say this.
I get accused of being, like, a gatekeeper.
Like, that's the worst thing.
You just don't want us to know the truth.
Just like, you wanted COVID shot.
And I'm like, hey, my kids didn't get COVID shot.
Like, you're talking the wrong guy.
I know I'm purposely, I know you're kind of ambiguous and, like, you do things like
gender-wise and stuff like.
I'm ambiguous as, like, whether I'm Republican or Democrat.
Like, I, yes, the answer is yes.
Like, I think it's totally stupid to, like, fix yourself by what you call yourself.
Like, oh, wait, so I'm Republican.
I only vote for Trump or I'm Democrat.
I only vote for Biden and I only believe Fauci.
And I only, it's actually an ignorant thing to do.
To call yourself by a name.
Like you're saying about a word,
like I made a great point.
If you said in German, I wouldn't be offended.
Except if you said my favorite word in German.
Ambulance.
Can you say ambulance to me in German, please?
Man, a, uh, uh, uh, uh, Kankenwagon.
I love that.
That's so perfectly German.
There's many words for, uh, yeah, Krenkenwagenwagen, I would say.
say a tank, like a military
tank? Like a big
Panzer? I thought there was like a longer
like a big like
There's so many
The thing is for one English word
I would say you have like five German words
Yeah it's very
It's very ornate
And it means different things
But you made a good point
Yeah if he said something
If he said F off and German
I don't care
But a lot of times I switch to German now
You do
I do
And I'm very angry and I just
I feel like letting it out
And it gives me relief
and it doesn't hurt anyone.
Do it.
It's so funny.
Can you say something?
I call him like a rotsluffle on the sheise vixer.
And he has no idea.
Nobody knows.
But I think if somebody was like down the street and they heard you like
to his kid.
I know.
To his kid.
That would be, yeah, they'd call the child services here.
They'd be taking him off.
But no, you made a good point.
So just as you said is accurate 100% that a word and it's just a word.
It doesn't mean it.
So to me,
all the more so.
If I say I'm Republican or Democrat,
that's like even more meaningless
than saying the word no
or shut up or stupid or F or whatever.
So I don't like,
I like to be ambiguous.
So people think,
oh,
you're just like,
you just carry water and card
gatekeeping for the scientific elite.
I'm just like,
screw yourself.
That's what you want to think.
Fine.
But then I'll make a video
that's like completely
I'll agree with.
And so I'm like,
you guys are the basket case.
It's not like all in my audience,
but the ones that comment
and get irritable about it.
And so,
the scientist believes the most that scientists and science itself has failures,
but for all of its failures and flaws, like America, there's no better alternative.
There's no better tool to uncover truth and facts than science.
Does that mean it's perfect?
I mean, is your wife perfect?
Are you perfect?
No, I could prove to you.
My wife got the last perfect man.
But nobody's perfect.
So to expect science is going to be perfect and it's ludicrous.
It's a form of wishful thinking and hero worship that's like magic.
But the problem is science makes so many cool things.
Like every single thing on this desk, every way that we're communicating,
every phone that all came not just from science, from physics, what I do.
The transistor, quantum mechanics, the telescope, the light, the cell phone.
That all came from physicists, in some cases, astronomy or physicists like me, astrophysicist.
So an email came out of physics.
The World Wide Web was invented at a physics institution.
called the Large Hadron Collide or the CERN, that's a laboratory in Europe.
These are things that most people don't know.
But does that mean that we're perfect?
No, but people count on us to be always improving
and give them new technology because it's massive
and it makes this magical transformation.
But that happens so rarely.
Like it was 400 years between the telescope that Galileo used
and the Hubble Space Telescope.
You could say argue that's just a bigger version of it.
Like we didn't invent some new thing.
We did, but not for you.
for the way that most people would think about it.
So science progresses very slowly,
but when it makes something cool and useful, like a cell phone,
we'll never go back.
We'll never, ever go back.
I mean, hopefully we don't have some, you know, prepper event
and breakdown in society,
but hopefully we'll never go back and we'll only go forward.
But another internet, it's not likely to happen in our lifetimes.
Probably won't happen for another couple hundred years.
And maybe, maybe, you know, maybe sooner,
but I'm not convinced.
So I appreciate what we have now.
No, and it's all, like the perfect is like it's perspective.
Same with like happiness, right?
Like you said about your wife, like obviously she's not perfect,
but for you she's perfect.
Absolutely.
So it's kind of like a perspective thing.
And same with your happiness, right?
You can, you could.
And I feel like at the moment there's just this pessimism that everybody thinks everything is going to shit.
When we live in the greatest time of all times.
It is.
I mean, could you imagine if you had to go back, I asked this on Twitter the other day.
I said, like, what's the earliest year you could go back and not go crazy knowing what you know about technology?
And people were about like 1989.
It wasn't like a thousand years ago.
In fact, if you went back 100 years, you right now, and I don't just mean like, well, I'm pointing some random guy in L.A., even a homeless guy, you know, who's got just basic needs met.
They have probably better access to medical knowledge, medical care if they need it, dental care.
housing in some cases, food, calorie, density,
even athletic opportunities,
then the king of England had in 1907,
it's incredible.
We live in the best age.
And the fact that we think that we don't,
I think that's a symptom of a weak mind
that likes to see the negative
because you feel good if you predict,
oh, like, everything's crap and the world sucks
and everyone's controlling my...
Then you outsource your happiness to somebody else.
I'm not to blame.
It's the government.
It's Gavin.
some. It's the algorithm on, you know, no, it's you and you control yourself and your destiny.
And that gives me great power and great happiness.
No, and bro, there's palm trees, the sun shines every day.
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous. I can come from Austria. I can learn English. I can get a, marry a wife here.
I can have children that are American. I can talk to the smartest people in the world in a language
that I didn't grow up in. That's amazing, yeah. But you also worked hard. You also let's
I know, but this is paradise.
Everybody that is listening to this has this opportunity.
This is like if you have iPhone and Wi-Fi and you can make things happen.
You're enslaved by yourself mostly.
We're always like the government, big pharma, EMFs of my phone.
I'm like, last time I had this guy on talking about EMF and it's really interesting.
And I get the point.
But I don't want to be a person.
us that lives in being afraid like a scared person that just any little thing harms your testosterone
and like no man like I love life yeah I love being here and I'm powerful I am the most powerful
my mind is powerful and free yeah and I will not like something harm me that easily you know
and it's beautiful when I go out there the world every little thing every street every homeless person
And we're all one.
And you can see the beauty when you open your eyes.
And we live in the greatest time where we can talk to each other
and we find a way, even with all this technology, to connect and to share with them.
And to be in this together.
I mean, there's nothing better than even like suffering together kind of.
Yeah.
If you could find, you know, a tribe, a collection of people that you have these values for
and even better if you're responsible for them and they're responsible for you,
you know, if you make your wife's happiness
the most important thing in your life,
you know, there's a reason, one of my friends said, you know,
is like there's a reason that it's happy wife,
happy life and that nothing rhymes with husband, okay?
That's a reason and it's asymmetric.
And yeah, it's not fair, you know,
if you want to be a pussy about it, right?
It's not fair that there's nothing like make your husband happy.
No, the whole point is that you get the benefits
of making her happy and keeping her happy.
That will make you way more happier.
100%.
Yeah, buy yourself a present and then buy somebody else a present,
like, and feel that.
Exactly. Give charity and do something for other people.
work at a homeless shelter.
Go to a hospital on a cancer ward for pediatric children.
I guarantee you, I went to a play last night,
and it was about the tragedy in Israel in October 7.
That tragedy was evil terrorist attack in southern Israel.
And this woman was talking about, you know,
she lost her husband, was killed her son, her mother,
and her nephew, who was like a son to four people
in the span of 12 hours on October 7th,
all murdered and brought daylight for just the crime of being a Jew
and living in southern Israel.
and they were even sympathetic.
They had worked with Palestinians.
They wanted a two states.
They were big supporters of Palestine.
It didn't matter.
They shot them in front of their grandkids.
And she survived.
And her husband was the mayor of the town.
And he had worked to take care of poor people
when they came in and even volunteered
in the Gaza Strip for the Palestinians.
And now that's gone.
And she showed a picture of her son who died.
And he looked just like my son.
Like I'm emotional now thinking about it.
And I was like, my son is also, he's a vulnerable kid.
Like he's, he's super sweet, just like, so kind.
We'll do anything.
He's the only one who never picks on his siblings.
Yeah, his older brother picks on him, but he's like, my twin.
We joke, you know, he looks just like me as a kid.
And I just saw it.
And I was just like, there's a reason I'm going to this.
And it's not only to appreciate, you know, and empathize with the suffering that she went through.
It's to make me appreciate what I have.
Like, I don't have to deal with that.
that reality, horror of just like, I can't even
I'm at it. I know I couldn't deal with it.
But to know that there are people out there that can deal with it,
it just gave me this huge boost.
And it made me feel grateful for my kids and my health and their health.
But, you know, you see those things.
And that's why I was driving up here.
I saw the homeless.
I saw the traffic.
And first I said, you know, how much would that homeless guy
give to be in my car?
Yeah, I'm stuck in traffic.
But he would love to be in the air-conditioned car.
Like, why am I?
Am I, like, you know, like complaining, I'm going to be 10 minutes late to Ken's house?
No, should look at it.
Why am I stuck?
There are people in, you know, in wherever Siberia, Ukraine, they're getting, you know, shot up.
They would love to be here right now in the palm trees and the sunshine, a couple miles from the beach in Hollywood.
This is insane.
This is like 99% of the world in the world of history would trade everything they have, kings, queens, monarchs, emperors to be us right now.
So we got to appreciate it.
And if we don't, then we're the losers.
And I really truly feel that.
And to give my kids that kind of that empathy to know, I do struggle with it because I want
them to know how blessed they are.
Like your kid is going to be more blessed than you had it.
You struggled.
You have things based upon stuff that you earned.
So how do you instill that resilience in him?
Well, the first thing is you have to have a strategy, which you already do.
You have a plan.
You have a thought about it.
You know, a lot of parents just have a baby and what do we do with this thing, right?
And somebody's, oh, it's the worst thing.
No, you're already ahead of the game because you had a plan.
You have intention.
You wanted to do it.
You wanted to have a second kid.
I always wanted to have a second kid, too, because I had a brother growing up,
and he was my best friend.
So having brothers, brothers are really powerful, and now you guys can have a girl.
You have two boys.
You have the bottom line.
You give him a brother.
And there will be best friends long after you're gone.
And they're going to be with each other for their whole lives.
You know, we only have them for our lives.
So, you know, I'm continually blessed by this.
And even though despite, yeah, there's a lot of nonsense,
but our happiness, like we talked about earlier, it's in our hands, man.
Yeah, and I think as a man, maybe it's not even happiness.
Maybe it's purpose, you know?
Your family gives you purpose.
And, yeah, if you see an unhappy man,
it's also mostly a man with no purpose.
Yeah.
You know, because you said everything can make you happen.
Everything has the potential around you to bring you happiness.
But you need purpose.
You need to stand for something.
and you need to have a path.
And when you have that, the happiness doesn't matter.
You know, my family matters.
And if I can, like you said, if I can make my wife happy, I'll be happy no matter what, right?
Automatically, if I make my kids happy, I'm happy, right?
So your purpose leads you in the right direction,
and there's nothing more dangerous or sadder than a man who is lost.
They listen to himself, cares about himself.
maybe he's addicted to his work or porn or doing whatever stuff on the internet and um it's sad but let me ask
you the final question i ask all my guests and i'm turning the tables on you my brother
um so the podcast called into the impossible so there's an old quote and it says it goes like this
the only way of determining the limits of the possible is to go beyond the limits into the impossible
and i want to ask you you have 30 seconds with 20-year-old kid that's all you got and you can't tell it to buy
Bitcoin, you know, whatever.
You won't understand what that means.
20 seconds.
What do you tell him to give him the courage to do what you've done to go into the impossible?
Man, I think I would go maybe 15-year-old.
Go back.
Okay.
I'll let you do it.
One-time exception.
All right.
Because, okay.
Well, if I'm my teenage self or my young self before I started Candy-Kend, I think once
I started Candy-Kend with like 21 and that is when I didn't hold back anymore.
And I think every young person or me and myself young, I would, if I, if I,
I have 20 seconds, I would, yeah, I would, first of all, don't take yourself so serious.
It doesn't matter what you do as long as you're happy doing it and if you bring positive things to the world.
And go for it and don't hold back.
There's no right time.
The right time is right now.
Don't wait on anything that you want to accomplish or that you want to do.
And you are everything.
You're everyone and you're everything.
So whoever you look up to or you think is better than you, you can be.
come or even better than that. That is the impossible, right? Not putting yourself in a box
or limiting yourself. And I would just encourage myself to, I guess, do it even faster and even
sooner. You did. Then I did. It's awesome, man. Well, it's been pleasure meeting you and coming
up here and I got to come down to San Diego. We'll get you guys a telescope and show you the stars
from down south, brother.
It was so nice to talk to you.
Great.
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