Javier Ceriani - Contratos de Guatemala de Miss Universo - Omar Harfouch en Vivo | Javier Ceriani

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

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There was Raul Rocha, the president of the Miss Universe, that is now in the militia of the Justice Mexican, and that's, in Thailand, in Thailand, they're asking explanations, and to be able to buy the franchise. I've got the contracts that unen a Rocha with Guatemala. The minute is a special that I always have,

to show you the contracts that compromises that compromises even more a roach than what I've shown three. But, sir, ladies, and inscrustive, today, will be with us. Now, right now, one of the pianists, composers, empresaries, of canals,

like HD, fashion, lifestyle, empresario, the man is a prestigious composer and pianist that has been the lukes to do the concert for the past. The Vatican, the bibliotheca of the Vatican, put all the partiturals of the Concerts of the Paz

in his bibliotheca, so Francisco as Leone know to this senior that he was to talk in the final of the Miss Universe

a superconcerto that never he did. This man was the juror, the juror, not was a juror

more. Rocha says that no he knows, that he no he knows much, that's he recommended

a friend of people, here is here is with us the person

of who denunciable that that roch he had said that I've been to win

Fattima Bosch. Senora of the people is a honor to know

to an artist to Omar Harfuch Libio Francine Divan Yvanes

and is in Paris and we're here with us let see

on the camera hello Omar, welcome to Hollywood. Hello. Thank you. Hello.

How are you? We are great, Omar. Thank you so much for being here with us. Ah, yes. Well, Omar, not you for inviting me. I was watching your show during Yes, yes, very, very good,

excellent. I was saying that I was watching your show was watching your show. Yes. He's going to show. Oh, excellent. Thank you. Thank you.

Omar Harfuch, why did you of the jurado of 20, 25 in Thailand? Omar, why did you leave the being? Because, because, yeah. I understand little bit Spanish. When I don't understand, I ask you.

I left because, yes, because I saw that there is a fraud. They choose illegally 30 finalists before the start of the voting. As a member of the jury, nobody asked me to come to vote. And certainly from 136 countries, I asked them to cancel it. They said, we cannot cancel it. It's already done.

And I understood that everything will be fraud, so I left. He said that he was fraud, that were certain candidates, that he said, you know, that he had to vote and that, that, that no he liked that. And that, simply, terrible? That for that's so he went. Well, but what he said, concretely,

what is what he said? Rocha, he said specifically for who to vote? Rocha, I told you specifically for who you have to vote for? Yes. Yes. Gawr Roche asked me to vote for Miss Mexico a week before the show. A month before, he said he was going to vote for my Mexico.

Really? Yes. And you are only eight judges, so, I mean, it's easy to make her win if we are like five will vote for her. I didn't accept. There were eight judges, that you know, five that vote for that person, then he just simply no accept. to you, only

he's to do you, or he did to do other members of the

jurors? If you you talked with other members of

the jury of this time. I can only answer for

myself. I cannot answer for others, but I know that the two others left.

Why they left? Maybe because of the same reason. That no can't talk for

others, that can be able for him, but he said two

judges more were for the reason. Omar, Rocha says

that doesn't know that he knows who you know who is, that an amigo he recommended to put in the juror. Rocha says that he doesn't know you, that a friend of his recommended you, so you could be in the jury. Yes, but if you go to my page on Instagram, you can see if you go to the summertime,

you can see how many times he was together, Rocha and I. We was on the yacht together. He appointed me a member of the jury in July, and he asked me to play because he was very impressed by my concert or peace in Vatican. Okay, that's on the internet has seen photos with Rocha, that he's seen various times

and that he said he took there because he liked his music of what he did in the Vatican. The question what I want to ask is, why I was invited to play then if he don't know me? Okay, why do you?

Why are me invited to that I was to talk if you don't know me know. The jurors behind Tushos were also In some, do you think that it could have been the same case?

Some other jury members also quit. Do you believe it was because of the same thing? Everybody knows that it was fraud. Even the contestants, the girls, they know about it. The princess Cecilia de Bourbon, the Douciceil, she was supposed to be the present of the jury. She left. And as I know, that she is suing Raúr Rocha and Miss Universe.

Cecil, I think she's also demanding to Raúr Rocha, but that is, of course, that they know, other members. Omar, between you, the juror, had a favorite who, for you, going to, according to what you percivies, of the other members of the juror? Because the jurors,

they're commented, and more or what would have been the winner if Rocha no would have intervened? If Rocha wouldn't have been involved in which a candidate you guys believed was, you know,

like the favorite. Many of the contestants was not allowed to be in the 30 finalists. For example, Argentina has amazing contestant. Peru, Chile Puerto Rico, a lot of countries was, even between the finalists, Philippine was good, Venezuela was amazing, a lot of, even Paraguay was good.

What I don't like is that only 30 was allowed to participate. He was supposed to go on stage and play like actors that you are voting, but in reality, you know, was not voting, so I didn't accept. But what everybody can see is that Fatima is not, yes, Fatima is not the most beautiful. Wow. Yes, many of the candidates

no, point, no, not going to pass to the final, between them, Puerto Rico, Argentina, this, only it was a certain group that were, that were to have the opportunity, and that, even, that for him, you see, Fatima, was not the more beautiful.

Did you, Omar, saw some special in Fatima in all the concertment? Did you see any special treatments to

Fatima during during your time there? All the time. Fatima has her own people to work for her. She was like a superstar. She was like a mega star there.

She really had all the time special treatment. that all the time, that she had, you know, a group of people with her, was like a super-strella, and she had a little bit of a time. Omar,

um, pardon. There's all right. No, it's okay. Omar, um, some,

not they were maquisites, others had maquisites, others had more presupposed. The money in this concursants, had influenced? The money in this contestant,

like did it have any influence on this distance yes it's all up it's all about money it's starting money by a local contest in every country most of the time the most rich girl goes to Miss Universe because it costs a lot for each girl it costs only for participating to be there for the clothes is for makeup for everything between 20,000 and 100,000 dollars wow Ultimately, the money has much to be, that it costs much money to enter there and participate, and it can be, more or less, between $20,000 and $100,000. Wow, how strong.

It's that about the 30 finalists, that had already elected semi-elected 30 finalists. This is true, Harfut. Yes, he said that the 30,000, the 30 finalists were already picked up, right? It was... Yes, this is what I discovered. And what I didn't also like about is that I knew that one member of the jury, at least he has a conflict of interest. Because his girlfriend, Ms. Paraguay, was contestant. And he is a billionaire, and his girlfriend is one of the girls that he chose.

As a billionaire was his girlfriend, he cannot be a member of the jury. Totally. That's what he discovered, that good, that yes, that even a member of the jurado, imagine that he not liked, that he was the nobio of part of my Paraguay and that is billionario, basically. Imagine that... One more thing. And don't forget that also I showed

on my Instagram page that I flyed from Dubai to Bangkok with the trophy and on the the trophy the names was written a week or two weeks before. Wow, he was he was traveling from Dubai

for there and I think, but I think he saw the trophies yeah, yeah, they knew. Really? There were already names on the trophy by then. I published the pictures on my Instagram page. I did the video in Dubai I have the names and everything. This is a bomb, seniors. This is for that, that this is for now.

Omar, you asked to enter a, you gave access to the evaluation of the official of the kids. You gave them, Did you have any access to the official evaluation of the candidates? Like, they denied that to you? The selection or nobody has access? Nobody. No, that's access to nothing of that.

But how if they're jurado? Because everything was secret because it's a fraud. Oh, it's secret because it's fraud. One more thing. Yeah, one more thing. If Raoul Rocha or Miss Universe, want to say that. I'm lying, why don't they show the real result? Okay, that's if Raul Rocha, you know,

that they're saying that they're not getting, because they're not saying the real results and the realest, you know what is what's going to be. Oh, because there were no vote, no vote, they decided by themselves. Because no, no, no, no, they decided, they're, they're, they're deciding, they decide.

Omar, when you you do you know, that there a contract between the father of Fatima and Raul Rocha. When did you find out there was a contract between Fatima's dad and Raul Rocha? At the night of the election, because I was wondering if Raul will insist to make Fatima win. I was thinking that he would not go to it because it was scandalous to make her win. But I knew a day before about the contract and the business. between them when I was giving an interview to HBO, the American TV.

While I was giving an interviewer for HBO, the traditional American, he's made and discovered this, obviously, and, well, there's more clear, no can't a guyo, as I said. Omar, there's another participant, that is Miss Cuba, the Stefan, very amygo, of Raul Rocha. Was there, Miss Cuba, Lina, it does, to be in the last 12? or also that was a favor of Roche to the Stefan?

Was Ms. Cuba in the group? Because, you know, she's related to some personalities in the Latin music, Latin industry, Emilio Stefan. Was she there in this group? Do you know this? Yes, Ms. Cuba, she was loving a lot, a lot of money around Ms. Cuba, but she was really amazing girl at the same time.

Yeah, that there was much of her, and that was an amazing She was a great amazing Oh my God Oh my God Oh my God That's great Well

Well The bomb Was that The bomb was That's a rocha Of traffic of arms Narco-Trafficer

The Fiscalia Yeah He was in Malos When he Coroner You know You had

An idea That was a Testigo The day that termed Miss Universe Wait Did you

know, how do you know, that's protected Rocha? Rocha. Did you know Rocha was a protected witness because he's related to like weird stuff,

narcotics and stuff like that? Is it? Frizzled? Ponga the image of Lina. It's frisado to see if we're going to connect with internet.

We're asking, well, for, you know, for, you know, for, you know, for, you know, and now we're talking with Omar Harcult, who I'm asking about,

there's about this university. Dime. Tell me. Let's ask. Let's see. Yeah.

Yeah. Omar. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let's. Repet me. A bit.

A bit. All right. When you're about the narcotrafico and that Rocha was a

a person a testigo protected, when is a coronation, yeah was a

He was a protected witness. When did you find out he was related to narcotics and illegal letters? When did you know that? When did you know that? So frizzed. It's frizzed. That's frizzed. He's on Paris.

We're with Omar Harfuch, the juror's that renunciah, that renuncied. Seniors and, sirs, uh, for favor, uh, we're going to concentrate us.

It's a very good in the interview, what he has done to say that's the name of the ganaders. We're going to

continue in this connection with the questions. It's a luxury to have it. It's a look to have here.

It's a person. He's a good translation, for that he he wants to say,

that he had said Rocha that he had to get to get to his Mexico,

and he is there is there is there is a what is? What? What?

This is. also also about the money that had been said that there's much money.

Look, they're saying that the premiums and the number of the ganaders in Dubai

were in the and they were the people, he's he saw, he saw,

he did the before before to come to this and then imagineate

that so you imagineate that's that's that year that was that was

so it's that's that's that's that Barbaro, Seniors, we're still

in connection because I've been with the contracts of Guatemala with Romar with Raul Rocha, for favor.

Seniors, will be a program very very very delicate. It's a special of

Miss Universe. We're in Veeh and Zepi Valenzuela also to talk of Lazar

Gomez and, for the whole what is what is what is how

you know how you know all the world of that Rocha was a man with an order to apprehension. Okay. How did you find out about Rocha being a protected witness and that he was involved in like illegal things like narcotics, etc. When did you find out about this? Did you know about it? I was like everyone going from surprise to another surprise. It was for me first

only a fraud about beauty contest. Then I was, like everyone, going from surprise to another surprise. It was for me first, only a fraud about beauty contest. Then I was like, I discovered that it's connected to Mexican cartel, to money laundering, to arm a deal. So I was, like, very, very shocked. So, everything, you know, in a certain of beauty normal, and then was from a fraud to the other, and then it was that he's entered of this type of thing, that there were, the cartel, Mexico, and the lavado of money, et cetera, et imagine.

Oh, my God. Now, and do you know what? the person in charge to investigate on Raoul Rocha in Mexico do you know what is his name? That the number that is entitled to investigate a Raul Rocha

for this in Mexico, that is what is his name? No. What is this? Omar Harfush. Omar Harfush. Yes! Yes! No, yes. It is horrible.

We're talking about the Mr. the Minister of Security Claudia of the President. Omar Garcia Arfush. It's very funny. It's funny.

He's funny. The same name. That's crazy. Imagine that if Raul Rocha will go to jail, which I don't wish for him. And then when they will put

him inside the jail, the guy will close the door, his name also, maybe will be also Omar Harfush. Imagine to go to the carcer, that he not want to be

that he doesn't, but imagine to go to the carse, the man that he's He's called, like him. No, no, no, what karma with Omar Harvooch. He was going to say, Omar Harfooch, he says that nothing has to be in his universe with lavado of

money, that obviously, if it was to laver the money, so use the things of entertainment, obviously. Omar. But I need to answer to this, because it's not Omar Harfush from Mexico who can say that there is traffic money or not on Miss Universe.

It's in New York. It's United States of America who will decide. Because the company, The Committee of Miss Universe is based in New York and not in Mexico. The committee of New York of Miss Universe in Texas is the who is the decision, really, if Hartfuch is, how is, how is it, what's what we're going to happen? The cede is in New York.

For that. That's more grave, then, still. If the ced is in New York, is more grave, Omar. Omar, you say that you have you guys that you have proof of this fraud, where you can prove that Rocha you manipulate in a certament of beauty

as a juror for that he cane the daughter of his son. You said you have proof that the father of this of this winner you know you were

like basically imposed to vote for her like is this is first the proof is the fact that I speak out and say that there is fraud.

When I saw, I said this, Miss Universe and Roryosha, they didn't say, no, there is no selection of 30 girls. They confirmed this. But they said that it's done by another entity, not the member of the jury. So the first fraud was confirmed by Miss Universe. This is one. Okay, that the first fraud was confirmed by them, that not were the judges, that was other entity apart, the other entity apart, the idea who they were to gain. Yeah, it goes that.

Yes. It's like a face only there like the jury. It's like a face only there like the jury. The second is that when you show documents that now everybody recognized between Chemix, the company of Fatima's father and Raul Roche company saying that they are in business, that they had business together, that there are millions of dollars transferred from Femmex, Fatima's father company to Raul-Rosha, it means that there is conflict of interest. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So for sure, she cannot even be candidates. She cannot be even candidates. So what do you think if she is the winner? Even if there is proof or not, it's finished, it's done. She is not legal. See, the problem number two is the negotiations that exist and the contracts that exist in Mexico, between this is caballero and this senior and the universe.

So imagine that, there's at the principle, there's a conflict of interest. So it's like not she'd have won't have gained because that is more than obvious, you know? And sir, I give you the last example.

For example, someone I didn't say that there's fraud. I was working as a member of jury and someone will tell that one of the girls contestants is a friend of Omar or from family, Omar, or she is in partnership. Nobody

will think that I am, I was working normally. Everybody will think that I voted for her because I know her. So, of course, the conflict of interest stopped immediately the independence of the jury. Javier, there is the conflict of interest. When I came here, I'd say to him to vote for her, you know, is, is, it's, it's, it's, is there more clear, understand? That's what I mean, dear.

Omar, you have, you have audio, Do you have some video, or something that you can't show, or if you're going to demand, you have I recorded... I recorded Raul in Dubai.

I recorded him several times, but I also have his messages and his voice messages. But all this, I already give it to my lawyer in New York for the suitcase in New York. That is he has recorded, that has got his

who is in New York and is there in his maladyin. The demand is against who and what is you doing? Who are you suing? Who are you suing and what do you want with this this? I'm

doing two kinds of attack injustice first because they use my name, my credibility and they have signed with me a contract as a judge where it's written that I will participate for

all stages of the vote. They didn't respect it. They selected 30 girls without my participation. So this is the first thing that I'm suing for. Okay. The first thing that I'm suing for. Okay. The first thing is they're saying that he was to judge to all the chikas, you know, and that he was to participate in all the activities of the jurado. But the final, not was so, you know, it's just 30 and that's been imposed so that's the first

the first demandable there. They're playing with your credibility that's what you're

playing with your credibility. You played with your credibility that's what you say. Yes, they played and of course

they knew that there is fraud and they was using me and other judges for the fraud. So this is also illegal

to do. This is the second thing. Yeah, that they were fraud and they were using

to other judges to do that illegal that. that other judges also think that is illegal. Correct.

The surcing is as composer, I wrote special music, original music for the show, and I was supposed to go to play. And I paid the orchestra, 20 members of the orchestra, to play with me. Not only I was not allowed to play, they didn't let me play, but also I was surprised to see my member of orchestra playing in the show, the orchestra that I paid myself. Wow. He was a propositor and a concertist that was going to be playing in the show

and at the final, not he used, number one. He paid to his 20 music and at the final he saw these musicians or some of these musicians talking there and he was. That impressive. It's something, but it's a circus. A circus.

I'm like that. I'm a lot. I like you, Omar. Awesome, awesome. Well, Omar, you want to, you want to Fatima, devolva to the corona, that's a new concurs, or that not be qualificed like this,

legitimization, a coroner that not has legitimization because there was a trap? Okay, what's your opinion? Would you like Fatima to give back her crown? Would you, do you think it should be,

it should be done again, you know, the, agent what is you she now is not the legal miss universe I already ask her to give back the crown but she don't want to give the crown back and and I also I also ask her personally that as as young lady how is her future is going to be all her life people will tell that she was not the illegal miss universe So she said, he said that I'd

give her to give her to imagineate, and she said that, well, you're going to go to go ahead, you're going to your life, you're going to have a spardas your, so this reputation of that you've got to become

in a misuniverse and literally, oh my God. She doesn't want to get back? You know, it's $50,000 per month to cover. You know, well, there are two things. Her father, her father don't accept her.

They didn't allow her to give back the crown. And her father don't allow Raul Rocha to quit and to leave Miss Universe because Raul want to resign from Miss Universe. But her father is not giving him the right to leave because if Raul

will leave, it means that his daughter will lose his crown. Correct. He no wants that he, the other, how he said, the New Universe, he's going to be, because imagine, there automatically yeah, he's, you know, unentered, and number two, he would,

would, perteria the corona to her, and it would be the disaster. More than what is. Wow. what will what will happen with the MIS Universe for you

Omar Harfuch this is to sell Rocha has to send it what is the future

of this concurs Raul Rocha can not continue anymore with Miss Universe

it's impossible it will not happen it's impossible so but if they want to sell it is also

impossible to sell because 50% of the shares are owned by Anne from Thailand and all her money and all her business is under arrest in Thailand. Wow, that can't mend them because the majoritarian is a company of Thailandia.

You know, and all of that is in Thailandia, that's what I understood. And Raul Rocha himself is under investigation for laundering money, for trafficking fuel and so on. So any businessman who will buy this company, he will be afraid for his reputation of all. reputation also. So this is the first difficulty. The first difficulty is that every one, you know, they're going to buy this because this is all right. There's been barred.

There's a lot of money. There's narcotic get this scandal of the corona. So who's going to want to get to get this? A bit of this. The second thing is that if someone will buy, he

is obliged to be transparent. The next year, the 2026, cannot be like 20, 25, where there is no transparency, nobody know who vote for whom. And I think that Puerto Rico, they are

already facing in good way the situation. They did a meeting two days ago, and they said they asked the committee of Ms. Universe to make sure that the next year, there will be no fraud. Yeah, you're immolucral, the government of Puerto Rico, that is the

thing. They're there, are there are helping, clear. Well, Yeah, it's that is that is inbarrauded, is the fraud, is there, so, God, but what do you? But what does? That's the same?

That's the fraud. I mean, who's going to buy? To be that they're inbarras, they're inbarrows with all this what's going to. Oh, yeah, Puerto Rico is doing this, how's it's saying? Piding, they're paying the expletions,

they're looking, the transparency, no, it's not been there. So, imagineate. It's what I'll be, basically the same, who's basically the same, who's going to want to want to buy in this moment

and to get these people from when they're these illegalities there. There's a

business Thailandese that wants to buy. We have let me let me that's

asking this this company I don't see if you know you know is Omar

but is this is this is the news of the day today they today they said

that they want to buy but I don't know if they can as I said that there is

difficulties to buy the 50% owned by the partner of Raura Russia, she's from Thailand, and everything she owns is under arrest for fraud because it seems that she stole $900 million and she ran away with Raul Russia to Mexico with the money. So all this is international traffic of fraud and money laundering.

That is money laundering, that 50% of this money, it's from Thailandia, that he doesn't think that this will be going to pass. Entient. These people started with that money. So it's a disaster.

Oh, Omar. So you go to direct to a demand and you want to

also clean your credibility because you you're invited. You're from the

Vatican of being a grand pianist, a composer and all the events that have

done you have been clean, limpos and he he said that he Rocha

said that Petched to you of the Misuniverse or you renunciate? Rocha, he's saying he threw you out, he kicked you out, you know, your respected performer from the Vatican, your reputation is, this year, you know what I mean? So, yes, Russia, Russia, he can say whatever he wants to say, the reality, the reality, but I'm anyway, who can believe someone who is in money-lowering, armed trafficking and cartel. So I mean, his, what he's saying, I, I think, I, I, don't care. This is first. Second, why he fired me? Which reason? Because I said that there's

fraud. That's why he fired me. So it's worse. I mean, I come to him and I said to him, you are doing fraud. So he said, Omar, you are fired? It was like this. So it's like even crazy than the first solution. If you know, I said, brother, the he's a fraud, simply, and why he voted to him? Why? Because he's the reason. He's saying that he has the reason, and what he is what he, he's what he, he gets, what, he'll get.

I mean, why he will fire me then? Because I said that there's fraud, he said, okay, you're fired. It's like a joke or something. I want just to tell you one thing. I am, I feel sorry about two things. First, that Miss Jamaica, till today, nobody knows if she's still in the hospital, or not. This is one of the things.

I will tell you the second. Nobody knows if they're in the hospital or nobody knows of her. And she has another demand that has roaches, not? Because if the new thing is that I am very sorry that I couldn't help the 100 countries

to have a normal and fair competition. The other thing is that he does a loss, he does a sadness that I can't to give to the other cent and the other centipical of countries

for that they would have to have a competition just a you know that you

get a legal um Omar what Rocha you say is you have to vote

for Fatima because it's good for the that's what I understand that's really yeah

yeah yeah yeah wow and what the business was for the main

universe for him for the father of Fatima for who was the business.

For all together. All together. Oh my God. That's all in business. Yeah.

The business is the money is in this society. For you, Omar, who would have

been to have been the Miss Universe 2025? For you, who do you think should have been

Miss Universe 2025? Today is Ivorikost. Miss God, Divar. Today. which is Miss

Cordivar It's Ivory Coast Cordivar Cordivar Cordivar I don't know the names of the chikas

Abidjan Abidjan Her name is Olivia Olivia Ah Miss Costa of Marfil Yeah Marfil

There you go All right But she also She also She also She also She was She also

So, see, grandfather was the president of Malfi, because her father, her father also now is the mayor, the governor of big town in Malfi. But the problem is not to have a rich father or president-grandfather. The question is about beauty. Are you beautiful? It's a beauty contest. Are you beautiful or you are not beautiful? When I was asked to be a member of the jury of beauty contest, my first thing I was thinking about is that is they are beautiful or not beautiful? Are you not beautiful? They're not so they're not really. Oh yeah, Omar, so intelligence. What you think of Miss Venezuela? I know that was a candidate. Also, also, too, he was a controversy because his family also have problems with the traffic of gold in Venezuela

and, well, the appellate of Nasser is very well. Here is the that the end up got to have gone to Omar,

that also has his things with his father and his father and his abel. But,

but he said that for the visa, no could win her. So, so,

Olivia, was, knowing that Omar Rocha was that was going to get to

Olivia for the visa. Yeah, she already had a visa issue, right?

Yes. Yes, but he knows that she has visa. So what he was saying, if I will translate it, he was saying that she cannot win because she is black woman. This is what he was saying. If you want to understand, this is the reality, because Raoul wants, he told me in Dubai, he said, we have to choose a girl that she will fly with me

in my private jet the whole year. This is what he was saying. Listen, bar, stop, but this is to say it, with the, with the bomb that is. This is a bomb. I can't go to travel with me in my jet private

all the year. So, that no I wanted a morena in his jet private? No,

no I didn't. We're talking of a racism that also he was

he went a whewer with a girl, with Miss Dinamarca that a sometimes

he was up and she was the wife of the wife of roch a lot of zealosa, jealous about the Miss

Denmark. But then, I didn't want a morina for the color of the skin. Hafeer, Jafir, it's not me who is saying that Raul said. It is himself who was saying this in interview in Mexico. He said it himself. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said. This is another bomb. I don't know what

I can't believe, sir. Wow. Contra one person that has a color that he doesn't like. This is very great. Apart, it's a precious Costa of Marfil. But he he's imagined with the moraine in the avion and he said, this is for me. This is no this, no, this is no, this is no. This is no way

to give to my side. And what we're doing. Wow. Omar, very strong of what you're taking. No, we know what is your opinion? There were influences? There people behind of Ms. Venezuela or simply

went and he concursed and no vizte nothing rare. Ms. Venezuela is a beautiful contestant. This is 100% sure. Now the problems that she had, I think that the five finalists, they were like two reasons for them, or they paid to be there,

or because they don't want to have a lot of beautiful girl next to Fatima, because it will be very obvious that Fatima is not the most beautiful. Well, she was that Venezuela was a little, but that, well, that or the five finalists paid for to be there

or that's or simply they're not to be able of Fatima. I don't see. Oh, but he

liked, he was in that's great. That's great. What is your opinion? What is your opinion

about Nawat? The Mr. Seh is, he, he,

the paper juged in all this. Rocha he, he was with him, so was

what you did what you did what you did? What did with Miss Mexico, it was very bad. There is no excuse for this. What he did with Fatima is imperdonable.

Asking a young girl to stand up and to shut up when he's talking and when she tried to defend herself, he asked the security to kick her out. It cannot exist in 2025. It's impossible. Of course. For sure. That's not right.

That's not right. But all what happened after was Hollywood, movie Hollywood, movie star. It was not real because I am witness myself how Raul was nice all the time to know what before he goes to Bangkok. He was like, my brother, my friend, but when he did video, he was saying, now what, finish, no more, now what, participate, nothing. But now what, at the same time, translate the... He was, he was obviously, he was with him, and they were super nice,

and all the window, and my brother, no-seek, and the moment, boom, or so, so, but they're not doing this. But without Nowat, you cannot do show. There is no show without Rai, no-what.

First, he paid $12 million to have the right to organize it in Thailand. $12 million. He paid $12 million to dollars to have the right to organize this in Thailand, so he had to be there. He put money. Yes, he put money.

He is, superstar in Thailand for beauty contest. It is also reality. He's a superstar in Thailand for a photo of Nawaz. And he did a public excuse. He said, I apologize. He was crying. The whole world saw that he was apologizing. Okay, he's disliked publicly. We saw that. But Nawat didn't did fraud. No fraud. He didn't.

No fraud. He didn't. Now what, don't do traffic arms. No drug. No drugs and he don't allow their money. Okay, that this man is not a criminal. He not has to be lavado of money, no he did the fraud in the Certame. He was a money. No, he does a personality known in the certaments of beauty. A normal in Thailand.

And, you know, he didn't get, because he paid much money for him to be there. No, Rocha, no, he could have got. And to finish, when I saw Fatima Bush in front of. of Nawat, she looks like amazing girl, fighting for women's rights and for dignity. But I don't see anymore the same Fatima with a fake title, Miss Universe, with a fake crown who insists to keep the crown and no dignity anymore. So I don't understand which Fatima of these two Fatima is the real Fatima. Yeah, there are two Fatima, one that is, you know,

for the rights and the other, that's another that, that no, that no, that no, I didn't know, that's what I understood. That's for what I understand. You think that Fatima Bosch knew that he was to win? Fatima, her brother, said, also.

Bernardo said. The president of Mexico was, everyone in Mexico, they knew about it. Everyone knew. Even the president of Mexico. All right. All right. All right.

All right. Fatima, knew that she, Fatima, obviously, and everyone is protecting Fatima, her father, and Raul Rocha.

I mean the politics and the government, they are protecting them now. It's all the politics and the government, the government, it's all right said that no,

there's problems with the Miss Universe. So you have a good almost Harfush, you have less good Omar Harfush. You're the good. You are the good. You are the good. Yes. Very. No. There's that.

Dice there. Your, how is it? How is it? How is it? How is it? Omonym. Homonym. Oh, monimo. Thank you. Omonym. Omonym. No. We don't.

No. No. No. No. No. So that's affirma Garcia Harfuch, he says that no there's problems of lavado of India. Yeah, his name is Omar Garcia Arfush.

And also I'm still waiting for Mr. Garcia Harfush to show why he's saying this. What, which study he did, where are documents showing that there is nothing to do money with Ms. Universe? I don't know from, or he just received a phone call asking him to help Raoul, And he did the statement.

Where are the documents that I per die there? Arturo. Yes, Arturo, help. Omar Harfush, is waiting Omar Harfush, the good, the composer, that's that he'll get the Garcia Harfush, the documents in where he responds to all what is saying about the crime organized,

that not is linked to Ms. Universe. He's is he's expecting to make those documents. He's asking to the minister. Well, Claudia, that gave explanations in concrete. No? Concretto, see. And we show documents that Femex, Fatima's father, send money to Raura Rosha.

This is today reality. Both of the companies, they recognize. So when you show this, Fatima must give back the crown. This is the reality. There's a document that Mexico, the papah of Fatima.

So you're demonstrating that, then there is, The proof, and with that just for that Fatima is to get the coroner and then him back. Omar, you did

an inquest where you put it for that people who had to have got to have gotten the Miss Universe.

Let's see it, for favor. The career has terminated. After of three

intense days, the vote public celebrated in my page official of Instagram for to elective

has yet to do and the results are innegables. As The only judge legitim of the Concurs, Miss Universe 2025, me I feel honred to announce officially the winner of this vote

democratic and transparent. Miss Costa of Marfil, Olivia, Yase, who received an abrumator 56% of the votes, of 323,000 votes emitted. She is segued by Miss Philippines with 36%, Miss Venezuela with 6% and Miss Thailandia with 1%. This vote was open to the world, and the legitimacy of the result is forced by more of 5.2 million of visitants unique that accededion to the page of voteation.

It's a clear plebiscito international. I want to all that, as I've said earlierly, no recognize to the five finalists selected for the final of Miss Universe 2025 as, totally legitimized, because 106 countries were eliminated unjust and secretly three days

before that commenced the competition. This vote represent the voice of the people and justice for those that were

unjustly excluded. Fuerte, no? Forte, I don't know if you see here I actually I get 50 million. Fifty million

persons came for votes. Fifty million. You see how much it's a huge. It's much more than eight member of the jury. So this vote is much more legitimate and much more transparent than what eight member of the jury can say. But I also say again that anyway, the five finalists was not legal anyway, because all the stages of the selection was not legal.

Arturo. He says that he took 52 million of votes in his reds social and that's more legitimo than eight

judges voting and that there was the transparency in each one of his tapas so that the

52 million that he has more legitimous than any other other things Omar the mission of a Miss Universe is represent to the

woman in mandatarios, leaders, foundations, hospitals. How, with this poor credibility, a president receives a Fatima now with all this scandal

because a president can say, why I have to receive a Miss Universe that has a scandal of narcotraffic to a trust? It's difficult

represent the market or mandatarios that don't want to insuciars with the narcotraffic

or arms not is not easy for Fatima is content in New York now is happy

and the people and the people will do you will be difficult it's impossible

because any meeting with any president it means that all the media, the press, will speak about trafficking, money laundering, about all this matters. So no normal president can expose himself to this.

It's not possible. So I think that she is a rich girl. They will spend money on her to visit capitals like New York, like Washington, maybe she can travel to Denmark, to Paris, but only as a tourist, because she cannot really have the real role of Miss Universe, which was done very good by Victoria, the miss of the last year. She was received everywhere by President's Prime Minister because she was clean girl. She was without any scandal. I don't know if she was elected legally or not, but as she don't have scandal, so it was

normal. But now it's impossible. And I think that many presidents can receive with honor the other miss, Amalfi, Costa Amalfi, Because she was elected by the populations, by the people, and they like this kind of stories. Her story is much more beautiful than the story of Fatima. She is from Africa. She come from Cote d'Ivoire, Abidjan. She is a powerful woman.

She was discriminated. She was victim of racism. All this make from her symbol. Well, what said is that Fatima Bosch no can't have a career limpia, well,

that has a scandal so every president that receives will have to have that mark, that mancha for what she is a

seniorita of a family that better to take to passer in cities like New York. Contrary

to the ganada of the year past that no had a scandal that,

for the least he no know he won't but

not took a scandal so so many presidents they

received and then there was that factor that

that Fatima is having I think the Vatican

no I think he receive Fatima no wow

imagine impossible we let's we're going to see this

is difficult no because we know because we know we know

it's difficult to make the image of the Papa with a scandal so. But I can propose to Papa Fatima he can buy Miss Universe. He propone the Papa of Fatima that I'll buy it. Yeah. And he can keep her every year, like

2006, 26, 27, 28. You can't maintain all the years. 26, 27. Ah, ha, ha. Oh, no, no, no, no. That's great. O'ye, Omar, we're really

that we're impressed with this scandal. Something more that wants to put, the people are listening

in the world entire on this channel of YouTube. And he has been

to announce Fatima that no to renunciate. She at a webo

was the show. Wow. No renngear. So, so she

they're in the world and says that he's that can't imagine.

Who will say? Who will want to want to want to

want to to let me have to let me have to let's get to be it to be it to beech with all because they're going to get to beech until the final Omar yes

thanks for for for for being with me thanks for this exclusive thank you so much this is it's clear that you're going to go to

go with a demand against Rocha and against all those that ensucied your number I also want to thank you, Jafir, because when I was alone, fighting against everyone, you was every day doing your show and helping indirectly my position because you were all the time telling the truth.

Okay, thank you, you. You know, talking about all the time, and saying the truth of the justice, while he was doing all this. Thank you, Mark. The only thing we want is the truth, to clarify what he was. We were the first in putting this contract

of the Papa of Fatima with Mr. Rocha and finally we've got the truth the senior Rocha yeah is a testigo

of the crime organized in Mexico although they want to they're they're they're

they're not a fact that not the fiscalia of Mexico could avoid what he

he was to lava the image they're going to save he they're

to because he knows much functionaries and political, for what it will be difficult that this man, will be going to cash out of some way.

Oh my God, man. Thank you so much. Oh my, thank you so much for being here with us, man, for giving us your story, and we hope, you know, justice is served and that, you know, everything's going to be fine, you're clean, thank you so much for being honest. Thank you so much, thank you.

Thank you for Arturo for translation also. also. No, no, don't you don't thank you. Okay, Omar Harfush

was too sir, sir, in live here with us from us from us

ladies, wow. The living, it's the interview that you did it.

I don't hear of people. Seniors, we're going to come to a course of English

Arroba a Puerto Rican who knows in English. Look, look, it's very complicated.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. No. No, no, no, in the island that's about, and the Mexican had to come to salvant. No, no. No, no.

No, we need, we're going to save you. Oh, hey, oh, yeah, we're going to. Oh, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, it's not, there's scudero. That's good, companions.

Amarer, no, no, so he's good, companionsitos, eh? No, it's very complicated to translate it at the same time. No, I don't know. No, no, but I'll just be really, really. I did you very well. Trap.

I think the boriccas so are so in your English. When you're not in Puerto Rico, the school, is in English or in Spanish? No, it's in Spanish. It's in Spanish. In Puerto Rico, we take classes in English, depending on the school that you go,

there are some of the more, how are you doing, more, more than, in English, but in Puerto Rico, my people, the first is Spanish. Very well, and so it has to be. To be. have to be

so. But I know the Puerto Rican are very well. Yes, and the

majority are very do you? You're a perfect in English? Yes. No.

No. It's important that this is important to get a instant and thanks for to say that

no, no, no, don't you know. Look, I don't know, do you

do that. Traducing and say are two things. Let me we need we need

we need we're we're we're just. Modificame here. Seniors

Seniors, we're rhythm to get on this on it's a Monday, how it's

I'm going to get up the time with all the lus to give the more information

alarm number one if you think Omar Harfus was the plato

in the program you you're because in minutes sirs and

I'm the I'm the contracts of Guatemala with oh to Raul Rocha,

Senora and Seniors, it's the moment of the real time. Here not lavable

in the image of any new delinquent. Here can't who go to get to

care. Senora and the route to Guatemala to Mexico of the Miss Universe

you're going to get in the contracts and the papers that I'm

attention the industry world and I'm because I'm

I'm Senora Seniors oh sir oh, yeah yeah

yeah yeah Valenzuela, for to talk to Leacierre Gomes, the granja, and this demand of the pedido to the

direct to Replicate, get to Marcella to talk of this case, and also the Gloria

Trevi. They're going to back to give to Gloria Trevi Sergio Andrade because the judge not

a judge in Mexico. We're going. Senora and Seniors, Noelia,

rompio rompio the Abogado and he against the Caribbean to the Coque.

Senora and Senora of defamar An O'Elea. Now comes an implacable

demand Molotop. I've with the abogado, we know all the focus,

prepare you, because not you'll not be the president of the Republic Dominican.

Well, gentlemen, sir, it's a thing argy, before that I

get Rodrigo with all the of Rocha, I'm to make a parenthesis

because the thing is being putting very complicated for

what is the reality, the social, the women, and the violence. Senora, seniors, I'm sorry,

I'm sorry, to the licentia Torres, our abogata. Hello, Marcella. Hello, Marcella.

How are you? Hello, Tephi, how you're going to be? Hi, Marcee. Hello, Javie. Teffi, but that's

you're a little that you're saying. Thank you. Thank you, Valenzuela, Senora, ladies, that's,

that's, that's living in Miami in this moment, that has suffered many consequences of being with a person

that no he's not you're trying to start Marcel to present the case in what is what

is going I want to be very respectful with what I want to tell Tepi in relation to

what we we're saying she what I'm what I what I'm what I'm

what he is that be clear that he's be victimized no want to enter to

new the new jutses she has more options and do you

do not and do not and put and put present a denuncies for the

way penal for what they're living that we are talking

what is what is being violence family equipar in

his modality in some also to make clear

in clear the the the jury the he

gave a sentencing the the inculp the can

to say your name complete because you know there's a presumption of innocence he has

a judge his judge his jury was given by his abogations was

led to a jury abbreviated if we we're we're what consists

the the jury abbreviated is Elazar he took to accept

the responsibility of all his acts but also I'm

also that in the media in the media was detenial in

flagrancy defy he called the police when when they heard the aggressions

were their people. Really she, the only that was living in peace,

the process the process she went, because were the people those who

were the people, and, and, and, well, also, I want

to clear also, is, in the jusios, if we have been seen

in other cases, in the other the case, or not

the victim a year and he's established conformed the judge

here we're doing nothing if Tefi could go to the way penal

but she wants the more so that he's to be to

talk and much less to me to me not I just

not I want to but all we've mentioned to

me put a four I don't when there

when there are when there It's the key to this, because they're in the granja, that's the reality of Azteca, Eleazar, to clean your image, is saying that all was a four, a trap, and she's like a maniturgy,

like, she's like a maniturna, when there's a decision of a judge, and she's all right. Tephy, how are you? Hello, Javier, I'm sorry, hello, Marce. Really, I'm trying to talk to talk to the less possible,

because for me, all this is part of a past of a past very dolorous, that for me I think that I think after but I think

it's just that violen my rights because revictimized is violer my

rights human the kind of another version of a story that yeah

was sentencio that you for to clean a image

or no I don't know what they're doing I don't I

don't because I think that any victim that should

have to denucer and have had had been a

sentence of a then then going to be that any of these now sentenciated

passing the years, can change the story and do it's like like that's a symbol for many women

and I can't make sure that this is because if me do it to me, imagine with all the

things, with all the what you did you live in your moment I don't want to

imagine what they can do other people. Let's let's see, let's see

what he let's say to understand the public how he is manipulating the audience

with something that's what he's a sentence. Let's to hear you. To take all. Your form of

your form of living, you're to be able to what you want to you're doing, that's always

that was very frustrating for me. For something that's not that's not not. They're not.

They're not done. That's very so it's a other video says that he put a four,

that because I were extrangerer, because I was how I was, I don't know. Really, I'm going to

disglossed this to be necessary. I think that everyone that has a head of

front, you know, there was a medical logistic, there was a judge that did

all. I don't have any for my time trying to to clarify this.

Simply I think that it's a great, when it are reiterated

and in a channel a signal abirate on television national,

no? So, the only that is the card, with this communicated

to Replicate is that's rectify this, that do do it in the same

or the same place where they're this defamation in my contra

because that is what I can feel from my part. And just I

really don't want to all this thing legal and have to go to go to the

court, I can't do my rights, I know my abogated that I

can't demand it again because he's committing a deal in

my If I want to be interested to go back to talk. When I knew that was in the reality, I didn't

I'm in commented, because for me it's a thing that's a time had been agredited by Eleazar Gomes. In that moment, Azteca no censured to me,

that not could say the name of who it was, but we're just in other reality, living what was a consequence of Eliazar Gomez. Marce, what, what proceeds here? Look, but, it's going to proceed what Tefi want. I've been very prudent in

to let her explain because it's your case. No, it's not not it's a reality show, it's a try to continue talking of a case that yeah is judged,

yeah no there's a reason, it's, you know, this sentence of culpability. Eliazar

Gomez, he's got with the penesentes penals, for violence family. I did

more options to Tepi, and she had options more severe to exercise, as the exercise

of the right to denunciate for the way penal, for violence familial, equitared in their modalities psychologics, and we go to what is, is the humiliations, where he, also, is discriminatory

to mention their nationality for question of gender. The women are discriminations. It's called discrimination cap-and-ra-trapa. For being a woman, we're just-discriminated, for mention a nationality,

is doubly-discriminate, And the manner in that that he does, I don't understand why Tebe Asteca, I mean, here are many cases that are going to this reality show. And, well, Tafi

he's going to go to the right of replica, that is something that they have rights to all the people,

is a constitutional, that establish in Mexico in the article sexto constitutional. There is a law

regulatory, where we we're in time solicitamos this replica for the information

false and exact, that he said, it's clear in this communicator. And there was a response? There's a way?

There's what we're what we're going to. Obviously, for me, I think is a thing that me robber

energy, Javier, I'm sure. I'm sure to get to that same instance, but also I'm going to leave.

I'm a mother strong. Thank you, I'm to be over this in a better way

that has five years. So, if they're doing case miso or not respond, or

to Replica, we're going to have to proceed with the demand as it. And not me arestant, all of the violence digital, all this that is occasioning. Really, to me, no, me, detain. I'm not detain. I'm a woman strong. I'm more strong than never, and I'm going to medentat. I think I have the truth of my side, and I want to give the things for the peace. I hope

those of Azteca and put in the right to replica, but of the contrary, we're going to proceed. is going to proceed in contra of TV Azteca presenting the amper in contra for that

obliging to TV Azteca to respond it. Also commentate that before after

this communication, the have been been sent to TV Azteca as well

it's the directs the directs the right there's there's all the companies

and all the communicators have where we we're we

this direct of what is why why exist the

right of replica to not enter just to a juice

because it's what is what he's he's doing the really I'm

I'm saying let's let's let's direct for the denunci

she she is not not so it and a

victim and a victim has teffi has right to decide that is

what he does more so she she did this

manner exist the measures the means the violence

mediation med media there's still these other actions. So, are more

actions that can solicit Tepi, Tewi asteca, asteca, as far as

Marcella, I'm want to tell you the public, what is the question,

I'm, I'm going to have to talk to a Rocha, the of MIS Universal,

that has to answer to him Harkfush or a Fatima to Bosh to who

to who do you to do, or we're disposed always. In a media of communication

has to always give to give the opportunity to all of a lot of people,

but when it's a form legal, like you did you, Tepi, what would be the

process, what are the consequences if Azteca no he does a direct

and it's a saying to be to say only in the real. Look, I'd

want to to answer the the company not can't decide if it's

true or not what we're I mean, that's, that's, no, that's the intention of the replica. Yes, but the intention, the right of replica

is established within the right of the freedom of expression. This right of replica exists just for not sometter to processes and that the media of communication,

or so if you see you're in a media of communication does a information that you consideras false or inexacta, there's a mechanism that was the

we have to mention those data, we have to mention, to mention what is what we consider that was found. And we have to mention what is the information. They have the obligation to say the communiator. This is we

see much, very segued, in all the media's of communication. And if they're not accatan, a judge of district, let's order and they obliga, and in your case, also, they can't mutter.

Sure, also in the multa. Defi, also, this is to talk about a that's a decision that's that's a decision. No,

there's a idea that one can't say, you know, that's that's that's

that's the right that I'm that I'm being a revictimization is just violating my

rights human, so I think that really I think really, I could do, like

to say, like I'm going directly to do a But I've tried to go for the most pacific because, in fact, I'm really, I'm sure, this time,

I'm super cured, super-saned, no, I'd have never had to want to mention the name or the theme because for me it's, it's, it's a serrado.

But we'll see how it's a question and what is the, the response, depending on if they're the right to replicate, but if not, obviously,

I have all my rights, I can win this question. And for those who are those that are

so preoccupied with every commentary that are more they're more to have been to put a

demand. But, fickens what is what's what we're in a reality

and in the social of the fandom I, I, when I

did live the Saturday announcing this time, I

did a hate or see people in my platform

that defended Eleazar Gomez, when my public, in general, during years, never has supported Eleazar Gomez, because here we're pro-mugher, and we're a favor of the no-violence. Me, it was strange,

me put to investigate, Tephy, and Marcella, and what discovered? That there was a fandom that no wants to gain Alfredo Adam, and are supporting a violent Eleazar Gomez just for the fact of that no garner, no

garner, not garner, adame, and would be supposed allegedly digited by the fandom of Lu Pincho Rivera.

And I'm proof of what I'm saying. And this now is a turn then a violence

digital against Tepi or against this channel or a favor of a favor of a

and look now, now how this has created for a simple competition.

Because, a No, it's important that Gagne or that Garene, Garner for that's enemy, he's enemy of Lupio.

If we're trying in an abism of the locura. I think what is the game, it's respect. But,

really, yeah, all mention things that have been sentenciated by a judge and to want to change,

this is a game. We're talking that's just talking to, it's a lot of really, I'm surprised how

the people can segar so in the time of fandum. I don't see or

not I'm not I'm not quite it's quite they're not even they're not even

they're in the publications that put the same the same the same the

program where so it's defamando so obviously I get to get to know

but it's incredible I don't I can think that all that all

this have the victimization of Tepi has a not is that simply

what he said in Azteca Eleazar but now it's all the reds of that's

reality that they're in a victimization of a case in a violence

digital the I'm living just very very very

very it was it was so like you to look

with with the publication is it's very very

very a much women not not it program of television, no it's not about

figures public. This, we've been the women in Mexico daily and probably in all the country, but also to make

a conscience, just in the agenda global of the one, this year, we are trying to visibilize the violence

digital, what is what is happening in the social, and every time that you put in a

commentio in contra of a victim, they're committing doing violence digital. No

important that your user is just working in that the platforms are responsible in

give the information also of all these people who comment they're after a profile and as

Tepi she is very very strong and a me he has demonstrated in this process

and in the process that you know but there are people to the comment

and for this type of commentaries they have this is something

very very serious so so I I'm I I

can't you can care bad for not put the number of

Teffi, but that we're conscious. This is this has been a

sentence, this so occurred and there a violence physical,

not only psychological like in this case, and to

revivir or inventing stories because invent a thing, every

that I think, wow, that no it's possible that that's that's

that all that all that is the problem But a question, because Leazar Gomez, in this

country, Kevin Space, for accosar a young man, he's not living like a homeless, because this country now he does. You know, we're going to talk about it. Yeah, well, that no, that's not more work to Kevin Space, and we've got a report before, in where he had $100,000 in his

count when once was in a, in a space privilegedized Kevin,

but it's not a attention that we we're in a situation that we

don't we give the same value, for the most in Mexico to this

well, to the real I think there are there's the things

for all the women, but many times we're not we're

doing because to make a procedure to a process in Mexico is revictimized more still

to the victim, that in this case is Tepie. And then even if you do now

more, in the moment that I was also, there was people, and I

know many people, and I know that much they're to do that they're going to say, they

are to say, they are going to say, but for me, no is no

kind of I took my responsibility. Thanks to this, I've been a better person, I've understood why I've tried this type of person

and I've taken my responsibility. I think this me passed for you to change. But I think that's the

person not take responsibility and instead of say, oh, I'm going to have an opportunity, I want to

do the past, I'm going to try to work, I want to make, or manchar or mentir,

with the kind of the care good. I think that's Yeah, also it's

not quite. No, or we have a lot of Ryo, that was a car to do that's

and it's changed, and it's a great, and it's a little and he could give a

pardon and and all have done to do you don't know simply simply, simply,

simply, simply without revictimism me, without re-victimisarme, simply with that no,

simply with that not me, he did with his life, I didn't even I'm going to I'm going to say I'm going to

say you're going to tell you're not only of victims but also of a lot of things orrend of a million

things. But imagine a four Javier how'd have you had to do you to work

10 years putting a Anna Paola a Vanessa a Elia to Janette a Katte to all the

women that have done publicly even there even there has been for I have done

for you to me functioned that For favor, no, no, no. So imagine you, in what world we're going to put in a four, I'd have to have 10 years of put hernius for that I'd love you. And in that moment, your abogados,

even some, some, some, they've been given. We're going to be a video that I've got to capture with my production to demonstrate how the violence digital, contra TEFI, for culp, for a purpose of a personage in a reality,

has a connotation now of a war of fandom, because it would be the fund-dun of Lupio that would be in favor of Alasar and attacking not only

this news but also this movie, lookenlo all. There's a fondon that we know

that we're that they're or that are leading to the team of Leasar and that are fans of

Lupio Rivera that unfortunately we're not we're not we're not how it's how it's

how it can be that can't how can't be that a type of a just to molest to Alfredo Adam. I mean, in what place? I've got another.

We'll have. And there are much more if it's the people of Lupio Rivera who is the people of Lupio-Rivera who is trying to Eliazard. Incredible, how a reality show to get to these levels of fanatism,

but they're an obsession for ver, to lose to Alfredo Adame that are they're doing to Eliazar. Incredible. In fact to think in the woman, in the respect

because they're going to be many women who are trying to destroy Adam. It's a game. I mean, I'd have much a pain because, Javid, there are millions of women

that move annually in hands of their parents in Mexico. In Mexico, it has the statistics more grand of violence

against the woman. And in that same country where they're normalizing the violence and attacking to the

victim. So, really, to me, a me, it's a very much a

pen, thanks to do you and I'm there. But I think there many people

that are living violence currently, and that for this type of things,

not they don't to get to get to and that can have,

can't end up every day. So, it's a lastima. I

wish I never to never have to reviv this time, but

if it is necessary, I'm what I have to do what? No, no, no, no, it has to be

nothing. What, what happens is that there's a note of FERCA, where, also, she's asking measures of protection, but it's a time apart in contra of Sergio Meyer, that just, it's just, it's,

it's just, it's a half hour to the audience, but really not is, so, here what we're looking is, the only that has to be is that,

there are three, not we're, I don't want, I'm not, I'm going to, but, there three processes in contra

of aggressions of people that are talking that were victims of some deletive in the granja. So I don't

see what is going to Tebe Asteca that is for trying to take the vistas, with revictimizing

persons. And as said Tefi, and I want to make clear in clear in something that

the women that are commenting that are that are that are saying that we are

that we're talking with a person that's doing a great message for that you don't

you're doing there's many statistics of women violented as Mexico but of all statistics also

they can see in the in the in the in the many many people not

they're not a process just for this type of comments many

many women not not can get to a

a public to give just for be victimized so

I what I'm that they're conscientious of here are the photographs.

When I initial in the social I don't have the sure to know

the when I started to socialize the socializing the right for

that more women not what didfy is I do you

analyze so so so I'm so I know

specifically the agressions that we're we're we we're

seeing that I think I was the that she is the that's the she doesn't talk to the police, she doesn't

talk to the video where in flagrancia detain an aliasar no was Tepi the call to the police important

that's yeah I'm going to say I'm sorry even I'm going to make a question this

this is I'm commenting and is that in my TikTok of the 2012 so in that it was

2012 right, November, or something, this, um, also,

um, there's the disculpals that was in the process, that he

had to give, those are those are those were, really, Tfi,

if had had been something or, or he would have wanted to,

uh, he had been detenied as he, he would be able to go, to go,

to say, that's not were a disculp publicas for him. Don't work with him.

Of that's true. In some point, I'm really, I'm going to say, I'm going to but, really, there were much more for doing. I think there

there are things very, very thrifted that I've to live, but it's incredible how still there

can be a that's afraid to doubt, to signal me, to insult me, to go in contra of the victim.

I mean his game and his reality no me interest in the absolute. We're talking of a delito that he's committed and that nobody has the right to

to doubt, to change stories, and to revitimizing. That's still playing the grange, but we're not not we're not

women, are women, and that they're not be treated as animals, for example, mordered the car, as

he said he, you know, we're not we're not not, we're people, are people, are people,

they need, and a televisora with a value, because always they've protected to the

assar, since we have been in Survivor, a person, we know we know how and we

have a... You need to investigate Javier, Javier, Javier, because it's rather, because I

say, you can deslindar from the commentio of a participant there's, but the proponel,

or postearned in your red and on the space apart to say all this type of

this type of things, with music Triste, with comments of all the panel, it's a discaro. And not

you surprise that the that's the manate. That's not that I'm sure that I'm sure that

me, I don't talk to me, no want to change the story, no commit

a little in my contra, what what happens with your really, I don't

me know. Defi, we're we're to be with us today, have rote the

silence here. Thank you Thank you very much. Yeah, and I'm really, with you. Because I know that I've seen that you're doing, you know, you're the only that you're not to say the

really that you've been to say, and I think that for that's that I respect and I always give you the space to talk about. Because I respect that you always that's the fact. Thank you.

I know your case and I know all the women that you gave a respaldo, including when we're in a reality, what most us surprised you And more we surprised that we're going to

an ex-Eleazar Gomez, that also had suffered violence domestic. Thank you, Thank you.

Abrose. Abrose. Abrose. Thank you for all right. Marcee, me you're still

minutes because I want to you know that I'm trying the time of Gloria Treby, that's

good-y. We're a super-bomba. Could go Gloria Trevi and Sergio And Dr.

DeWulte, to be a judge, in a judge, because the judge, not a judge.

Yes, we're Marcella Torres, seora, and seora. That's good, Dubai.

Well, Marcella, what surprise we've we've got to this end of the time? Oh, yeah.

This, I want to talk about before I'm doing, before to enter with the Gloria Trevi.

For me, it's very different to talk of the cases that I go in the internet, than to

talk of that I'm going to be very respectuosos because if I put you on

the, because I didn't, because I know, I I'm the person it's Tepi.

So, I have not the same to get a thing than to talk about a thing, like we're going to do with the

of Gloria Trevi and to talk to all the points of but if I want to the people are concerned,

I think, lamentably all the women, we have a story of violence and that we're

not there's that no, there's a you can't get, not you can get a something,

but here there's a question, it's been in discussion, if it occurred, and I,

and I'm going to say that this case I this case I don't know to Fee as I've done with all

the cases in a particular in that year and for me was a was a judge who

decided to put in prison preventive justified for the type of lesions and that

not occur in those cases so of the gravity of the case the majority of the

people are here connected that probably there probably there probably there will be

has lived lamentably cases and that have had been the valentia to denunciate because

it needs a lot of a fortelette to do not but here were the circumstances that gave them

that were the people were the people who many times those people when they're not in

this case the people see they're so alarmed of what they're they're saying

to the policeia there's a video that you can googleliar where they're

getting in flagrancia to and the intention like, Defi, I, when

I contacted, I was a last a year, she was the only that was that she had to

not be about the case, that's not the and they're saying, and I

think my intention is, I, for so when Tefi took the decision of si

we're going to put the communication, is I don't do the case

because it's not a victim that's I'm attending and

when when I when I say, when I when I attend a

I don't know, I've been in reds social, until in-tant-o-victima have the necessity to do. And I was with Tefi, for separate of you, because we had the abogada

of the case, but I have a friend of a reality with Steffi, I know his case, and I'm

to Tefi, and I said, Tefi, you want to hear my program, and she said, I'm going,

I'm going, that Marcella with me, That's what what was what happened and for

so it is a very much. And, well, we're we're

that not to have to have more actions legal

that she has and that you and that for

far the comments that we're there there there

there is a question yeah yeah that's just just

you well and what is in the case in the

case of read we informer Marcy, and then you'll comment.

In the labyrinth bureaucratic of the power judicial where the expedientes

emolven and the nothermings and the name that's in simple vista,

it would be one more between centenaries of people, Javier

Pineda Arsola. The judge that he left in liberty Trevi

there in 2004. In However, after that name, it's a mystery that inquieta to jurists, defenders, and academics. The man that had been administrated justice, without in that

then, with the title professional requirited to do. According the reportage of Genobeva Caballero for the process, in Chihuahua, in the year 2000, variouscusgados of

first instance functioned with resources minimum and under a climate political tenso. In that scenario, Javier Pineda Arsola appears

functions jurisdictional. But there's a problem. No existia, nor today appears, evidence public of that in that moment were licensed in the right. The basis official of the Secretariat of Education Public, no arrojointed results clear. The University Autonomous of Chihuahua, also muster registries accessible over their year of titulation. And the Tribunal Superior of Justice of the State, guard a silence on which were the documents that present to, for being known a judge. For a questioner to

judicial. The condition is innegotiable, the title professional, and cedula. In the case of Pineda Arsola, the sequence documental simply not quadra. The biography is a phantasm. The career of the Funcionary is Esquiva. In the Pockes, in the book or courses, generally included in books or courses,

where he mentions that is licensed in Derech, the University Autonomous of Chihuahua, Maestro in Derecho Penal, doctor in Derecho Penal, but, no, not mention a thesis, synodals,

act of exam, or numbers of register. And when they're these data in repositories public, the result is an echo. No,

there's nothing. The question incommoda is then inevitable. How many resolutions that that was

that not complied the requisite because one of the resolutions that did, could affect

vien, as Gloria Trevi. What we're not. What we'd What we'd. Two days that's close to Andrade

appeared in a hotel in Mexico promotioning music. Much, much to say, now I'm

now I'm with the personality. Look, there's there's much to say. As you

you've seen here, here with Javier Serian and all with papers. Here what

we've seen is the cedula, the Fecha, the register, the 2012. The Jury Trevi is

of 2004. He exercised without a cellula professional. We have much to say,

but you're going to surprise the final, but we're to desglos it to pass to

pass. The denuncia, the denuncia is for the actions of Karina. Of Karina

and A part, it would be that's something that the people that

the people not have no we don't have been the jury not for all the

menors of the end the jury was exclusively for Karina Yapor now now I'm

not only just as my experience because the jury was here in Chihuahua

the brother is a man my is a manel Yaport we're we're

we're we're we're just in the secondary Karina Yapur had 9 years

we're we're around about about 13 years when when Gloria Trevi and us

comment to Daniel that his her herman had been selected to go

to go to go to talk they're they were very

very emosionated the really the family of Karina Yapor was a family

very very unida and And, and, well, envolvied to the family, they're having a Karina being a little of nine years.

So, here, why I'm going to callation of this in this moment? Because those are, not can't judge in the territory of

Chihuahua for the actions that have occurred in Spain. So, the actions that were those that were those that occurred in Chihuahua.

It's they're they're in three occasions because also I'm in miscuita

Marlen Calderon because in one of the occasions is Marleen Calderon the

that accompanies to Karina Yaport to tranquilize when she discover the existence of his

his son in Spain then they're to calm those to helperser to get to get

all this comes to get a collation that if if you get to get to

the juice. The juice is, it has, it has, it has to nullity and actuations

Karina and Apor. There are criteria of the court in where we say, this,

this, is that the nullity of the judge will cause to cause to cause

to cause, to be to be that he declare that no he had a competition

for a proceding, for a document of a possibility. I mean, I don't

think that that that that way to to tumbar. If what are looking the victims is the

other victims is that they're to take their process what can do they're actually the

delitos sexual committed in menores in Mexico. You know pre-scribes in Mexico.

Oh, yeah. Sure, you know, then you're right. So, here, here,

so, it was made the boom of that the judge not had a cell

professional, is the fact, but for the effect to exigure justice,

do They can't do. Now, the papas of Karina Yapur were the

only who were the only who took a question. Carla of the Cuesta,

to who respect I do his character of a victim in my sense,

because well, no, there's no, no, no, there's

clearly, it has said, why none of the authorities at the moment

to have been to be to do the officio. Because in Mexico we have that problem.

These delitos were to have persecuted in every one of the states in those that were for the muchachitas. It's saying, these these delitos, these delitos were committed around the world, so they committed in Brazil,

they were in Spain, they committed in the States United, and every one of the actions has to be accredited in each one of the territories where they committed, because these delitos are of competition

statal, not federal. So, Carla de la Cuesta it has explained correctly. They're soliciting

that they're to be able to exercise legal. Now, I want to be an objective and not

to be one side or of other. If we we're going to what has declared too, because

Gloria Trevi not has much, I'm, but if it has said Mari Boquit or Rakenel

because she doesn't identify with name and we have to respect to Rakenel

Portich. Aha, Rakenel Portillo. They're in misquidas all, all as women in

a circle of violence and if they're to be to be taken to make a perspective of gender

to me I'm made very that when Maria Rakenel mentioned that when

she says absuelta and right we're to be also the sentencing

when she is absolutely when she she for first time from first time he could decide

what could eat imagine not it's not it's not that they were adults or

menores of they're in a circle of violence and there's a protocol to use

a perspective of gender here the only that I could if

if were abogated of Carla and all the other the

only that I would I would only that I would I would be in the

case of Gloria Trevi is that in the series she has revictimisa and they

put like the malas of the movie. There's many things

very questionable here the eye should be put in Sergio Andrade because

not is being not we don't because really I'm doing what you

in Mexico enter and go and they're not it doesn't why it does it

and they're to get a airport. Well, that is a very good question. It's a very good question. It's that is, I think,

his brother, is there in the political and in the government. So, here there's much for doing. As, as I said, Carla de la Cuesta,

who is who has been a little more bocera, we tendamos that each one of the victims is different. There are victims that have the necessity to talk. There are victims that not have, that no

they don't want to continue being blanks of this because we see with with all the

victims, we're we're just just going to them. I don't just want to be doing

a Gloria Trevi simply say that she not should she don't be victimizing to all

the other because she know perfectly probably probably been probably was under a cycle

of a violence where not could say and I and not had

other mechanisms, but we have to understand that if it was the gancho to to be able to many adolescents or children, and many of them, not

only Gloria and Maria Recklener, they're, they're in the majority of being in this cycle of violence.

Now, concluding a little, concluding a little, the fact of that the judge is a, is something

very polemic, the fact that the judge, not has a cedula professional, but in

those years, could litigar in Mexico as a person of confidence. Ah, yeah, interesting that so,

then so, so it could have done. It could, but it, but it was, it was an element that before

was just the title and not the cedula to exercise in a Oh, look what

interesting. I'm I'm going to get to litigar just Penal Federal with

a cellula professional because he could be a person of Confianza.

Now, now you can't but understand that the law not a

way to apply to do you for you don't be able to see the family

of the Karina not it's not not so I say is the point

to it's polemic that no it's not and then

also also also he was he was a posto the

when he took the licensed Pati Gonzalez. of Chihuahua. I mean, it was some years

and she has she has she also a problem a very quite in Chihuahua of the case of Gloria Trevi. I don't

I'm a favor or in contra of any of the people. I what visibilize is that

here the that should be in the carcel, the that should be to be to be in the

liberty. The doctor Javier, the judge is involved in the case And for what?

Well, here, too, is that I don't know if you'll let me see, but there's never. But, sure, for that we're here, it's the number one. And tomorrow

all afunated. Look, my best amigua, I was, we were, we were, we were,

we're, we're, we're, we used to enter to work to practice to the jusgates,

and my best, no, I'm going to say numbers, was, was, was,

tombs of Gloria Trevi, the that he had the expedient and when it's absolutely when it's aftuil to make a

party Gloria Trevi without Mary Boquita but in that that fiesta who was the judge oh no no no

no no for me you're just you're trying I'm between me his universe and this

I think I think I'm I renunce Para. How do you make a a party, Gloria Trevi? Because it's absuilted

and invita to the judge this, that has said, I mean, Marcella, or is a question?

No, no, it's... Here, here, here in Chihuahua, we know,

we know, we know that we're all we're and actually, he is part of the strategy legal

of Gloria Trevi, because we we're talking that he knows the infinity of tomos,

are. So he he's he's he knows every one of the declarations so he

is part of the strategy and then I don't see if you know you know you know

the Camille Basque no no no no in Mexico in the United

there's other but in Mexico is the despatch that oh yeah

oh le oh we're not we're doing no I don't I don't know I'm

it seems they're good abogados, they're all those who have put the measures of protection of all the artists. There we've been how Gloria Trevi, it's

and they're, and they they're still in the back. Ah, the of Joel, Galilea, Ninel and Belinda. Ah, yeah I'mtient. Oh, well. I understand. I'm all. That's

a little herringent that you've got to do. Wow, wow, wow. Well, my my game. A little One last, one also,

a little, a little thing, you know if you can pass, of just the day that

the day that the case, for that's we need to the sentences in Mexico. Let me,

let me let me. It requires that the data that are brought to the body of the

body of the delito and it's probable the responsibility of the accusation as the

present case, being applicable the criteria prudentiales that scribo. The consultable in octava epoch of the

next book. Prove insufficient, concept of D. The third says, Prueva insufficient. Prove insufficient. This Supreme Court of Justice has been declaring that there's proof insufficient when the whole of the concept of data that

on the cause not get to the certainty of the imputations. Prueva insufficiency. If you're fix, no is innocent. It's innocent. It's said that no there was

enough to declare the culpable. So, so is how they're dictated, we we saw, we

know, as as they dictated the sentences in Mexico. No, there was proofs sufficient. Actually,

for you have a sentence a condemnatoria, no it's, it's, without

reason, so, without, reasonable, of that, no, there's not a

reasonable, that you that you that you did. That is what that's the

sentence. It's the day that's the day that's the day that's proof insufficient.

So that no is innocent. Only that no is culpable. So, I don't

want to get to I'm going to see. Oh, he's a question. Marcella

Torres, what good program today on you all the things and those

we we're going to continue. You thank you. See, la, for favor. You're

helping to many people. In the social and many people help in a way

gratuit. Thank you. Thank you. I'm so I'm including a glory, that all

that all that all have all of justice. We're we're going to get to

you. You want to a lot of all the serianitas here. A kiss. Gels.

Gereo. It's the moment more expected. The bomb of the

day. not par, he goes Fatima New York Fatima Bosch Acaba to romper

the silence Omar Harfush the juror that denounced this morning to come with me this morning

a hour of interview exclusive and now we're going to go to this

ladies I'm to receive now my next invite you

you know you Rodrigo Gaita Tua. Hello, Javier. How are you? Thank you for the invitation in your program, I'm going to be accorded to your

name, of apeachia. Jamas, you want to say, that you know, I'm going to say that you're going to be a lot of fans here. Ah, of the really? Mugheres that are

there's just, but well, is that. To what? At what you're at what you're at the time, me did in a car. Well,

when they start in the coffee I'll say I'll no no problem Rodrigo

is part of the house of the family oh yeah Rodrigo what

what good I don't if you heard the interview of

Omar umar did our program all these days

was watching too too you saw the the

first first time, and now obviously will be also be also to be able to what is. And Fatima, no will be to have the

coroner, and now it seems that this sir, no, in his universe has been

affected for lavado of dinner. Until right. Until already. After

right. After right. Well, Rodrigo, what we're what we're doing? Okay.

Well, let me, let me, for those who have been to be the program

and not have been in programs anterior. A ver, reveled those contracts of Pemex, no? With the paper of Fatima

here in exclusive in your program, no? They were the only and the first and you were you, and

this and this desat the bomb world. And, of actually, I think

Omar was on this to do to declare no? And he he was

he. Yes. Ah, this. After, then, we've put in evidence

various things well, we said, before we're in this universe who were in a lot of

you know, so you remember, all this. Then we did we another program where yeah

that Raoul was involved or imputado more well with the traffic of narcotics and all

this, we're, we're, we're some images of an video that could be

involved also with this type of things, no? So, what I bring now, look. And this also is you're of the first to know what?

Music of attention exclusive. Music of attention exclusive. Okay, we've revealed a contract of Raul Rocha with Pemex, but this is much more there and this is going to be a

level international. Raul Rocha formed, and here I have the act, for example. Here I have the act with the actuarial, the register civil. Here I have the register, the constancy of inscription, the register to the registrarian. Al-Sat.

Well, if, in Guatemala, it's a superintendence of administration tributary, no? And result that Raul has a contract of exploration and exploitation of hydrocarburs in Guatemala. All complete. How? Why is relevant this, Javier?

Here are some things that are very relevant, that I'm going to say, what are Do you remember exactly of what are accusing a Raul Rocha, now the Fiscalia, with the lavado of the money? Guachicol, traffic of gasoline,

for those who don't understand the term, arms, and collaborate with narcotrifice or, you know, what cartel is, is one of the most grand? Yes. From where to where? Recurances,

where it was, where? Guatemala, Ruta, Mexico, Mexico, Ruta, Guatemala. Okay, figureate, I'm going to read a line of time for that people can understand a little more a little more,

more, more, more, more of detail, all of this, no? Perfect. We're going to situarn us in the 2020, where is the government of Alejandro Yametei. So, in this moment, the president of Yamatei

has as an ambassador in Mexico to Mario Buccaro. Okay, that's the name, Mario Buccaro. Oh, so. CEO of the Miss Universe. In 2020, Mario is in Mexico

as an ambassador. 2012, Xavier, he nombrough, a Raul Rocha as a consul Honorary of Guatemala in Toluca,

Mexico. Okay? To this numberment, when, when it's a council, assist Mario

Bukh, to inauguror the event. So, now from here we can't see the certainia

political and Dr. Dr. And Dr. Mario Bucaro. Then we're going to 2022. February of

2022, acynden to Mario Bucaro as a Minister of Relations Exteriorior

of Guatemala. What means? This means, this, it's become in

cancilier. Okay? It's the right right practically of the president.

2002, it's constituted a company legacy holding, but in Guatemala.

In 2022, it Constitue Legacy Holding in Guatemala, you know, Mario Buccaro and Raul Rocha. So, in 2022, this

Legacy Holding, that here is the Act Constitution. The dwean, the owner is Raul Rochakantoo. Is this contract that we're seeing? Let me see. A be.

To be, that's the contract that is the contract, that's legal. Legacy Holding, society anonymous? Exactly. Society Anonymous, there we'll be, Mnumarichu. That's, well,

it's the register, no, between the... It's the register of the company to what you're not... You're saying. That's the register of the company. There's the register of the company. There's in that...

In that document that you have, okay? 22. Dime. It's the 22, the 14, the 10 of the 22. Exactly.

It's a representative representative of the company. Exactly. November of 2012. Javier, this is very, very important. So, ceded the rights of the contract Petrolero to Legacy Holding. There is a company that's called GFI Petroleum

in Guatemala, and this company le cede the rights of exploration and exploitation of hydrocarburos. It's saying, and Legacy is the company that receives this contract and that has the right to exploit all those hydrocarburos that

encounter in Guatemala so so let me let me see what I'm going to be this is a scandal for the country also in Guatemalteco this is a scandal

yeah that it's a world okay okay here's the protocol this is the protocol where is the protocol

where you sell in the rights no that's emero session of the rights contract of exploration and exploitation

and exploitation of hydrocarburos. Here, here's, here's all specificed with the company EGFI, which is just the that the Republic to this company of Rocha,

the exploitation of energies and minas, the Ministry of Energyas and Minas, and there's, there's. Explakal, now, exactly. What is this?

is a contract of 25 years to do 25 years to explode all the oil now okay up here all right okay I'll continue to add the context

for that we'll start because here here's a little interesting this was November of 2022 okay we know we we'll saltamos

in January 24 two years after Raul Rocha annuncia publicly publicly well more more more than a year after, because this was in November,

2022, a year after, a year, two months after, Raul Rocha, annunce publicly that he'll buy MISUniverse,

that compra 50% of the organization of the Ministry Inverse, who thinks that enter to the

organization of MisUniverse as part of the Board of Members, Mario Bukaro. The Socio Guatemalteco

that he did all the mines and exploded in the oil of Guatemala. Well,

here I'm a pause. In the contracts no appear Mario Buccaro. No, it's where it's

where it's interesting. So, if you're using the pieces of the chronogram of this,

Javier, there you go. So, the 12th of Nero, look, Mario

was, he was as an first, he, he, he knew a Ruhul

and he did after is cancilier. Right when he does cancilier, Raul Rocha

registra a company in Guatemala Legacy Holding. At the few months when Mario Buccaro is

a cancler they give the session of the contract petrolero. And then after Mario

Buccaro casually terminate in Miss Universe. So, you're at those pieces of

rompecabes in January of the 2004 to let a permit environmental for

Roll Roche Explote the Pozo of the Felicity. And two days after, the 14 January, Salie Mario Buccaro of the Cancillary, and he begins to work with my juniors. All this is all this is documented

if they're seeing the dates. To what does to give to this romepecabes and this labyrinth of things, Javier? You know in the in the

in the in the political Raul Rocha and Mario Buccaro then they're

a Raul Rocha and here there is something so per super delicado

for that you have to check your reputation you have you have

you need you how they did how did you how did canc

pardon this consul honorific a a Raul Rocha, having the

reputation of the casinos. That is what the people have to ask. And also what the government has to

have to respond. This is a scandal for Guatemala now, not only for Mexico, but for

Guatemala. Sure. This had played first with Pemex and had been the scandal

here in Mexico, no? But this now is a level international, to say, oh,

what is it is going, how did a person, a person with some antecedents of the

assessinato of the casino. And then how is how is that a business, well,

if check in here the contract of the company, legacy holding no present the state

financial because just because just he had to create not present

states financial and then they're we're not we're we've got to create

legacy but my company gasiferas of the sub respald the

operations. Then they met a gasiferas of the South, that is the that he took the contract with Pemex to respond to the operations.

So, this, let me enrared much, and I don't know if they're more confident. No, no. But still in shock because the minister of Claudia

Jaeguam. Acaba said that the Miss Universe no has to be with lavado of money. And you're saying that

the man that the explotation in Guatemala to a company phantasm that no had any respalded

financial, they're going to that man that he does the petroleum the petroles what's it's

a misuniverse how no there's how has made to make the universe with the law of

the money sir minister but we don't we don't we don't we understand

but it's more clear that the water that the misuniverse was the lavado

of the guatmanteco and of rocha so and of the two countries

just Only Omar Harfush, just, that is called, like the judge, that's that's just, this is, they're going to check to detail,

no? They're saying that they don't have an indicio, indicio of the crime in organized in the same universe. But, well,

to be, there's to be to see, they're in a indicio, no? But, to be, very clear, they're accusing

to Raul, of Guachicol, of Guatemala, to the city of Mexico, and result that are that are in

contractitos of Raul Rocha, Yeah, of before, and not is any of this is more great

than the Pemex. This is much more more than the Pemex. It's a contract of exploration and

exploitation of all the petrolio of Guatemala. So, is immense this, immense.

I think that Rocha is a quix. I'd have to have made a same Guatemala

for that, because we say between the contractito of Pemex and that they're

in a country practically for that to do do it and they want to

and the flotts, my Guatemala, for no, I don't have to have gotten to have gone to the final, no? For the most. But, a change of that, to who put the CEO

to Mario Bucca? No? How will put the CEO of the MIS Universe to the man that he gets

the contract? It's an enchufado total, Rocha. So, is it's more clear that the MIS Universe

was a lavado of money, and if it was for to tap what there was and what

torpest too, because he's bad at final. Conflicts of interests, nepotism,

so it's nepotism, conflict of interest, nepotism put in someone that is political, that is a political,

in an industry that nothing to with the diplomacy and with the political, well,

nothing to apparently, and that also, we can present or supponer armando the

rompecabes that Mario Buccar took an injerency very in that these contracts that were in

the government of Yamate when Mario Buccar was the man or the right and that

he's doing this is this this is not they can't mention but this

is a scandal no this I'm this I'm this I'm I know I think

I think the Guatemaltecs have to get to get the because

this is they're they're they're they're Guatemalteco, two people who then they're

going to do this universe. It's something apart that the licitation petrolera

has to have a licitation every the company have to present what capacity they have

of exploitation of minerals in a country and gain for a concurs

you can't you can't you can't these are where is where is where the

grand corruption of a country there for christina Kisner in the Argentina, and for that's

a person, a lot of presidents. Because have done a contract to someone that not was the best candidate. And with those that had nexus.

Right. Javier, this, this, Javier, this, right, we're taking

here, it's nove-sito, but you're to see how in the next days, this will be going to

go to explode. This is more great than Pemex. This is more grand than Pemex. Also, I will say one thing.

We'll say let me say, Javier, that you can transports, you can't transports, you can't work with

a license a document legal, because you know, okay, you have this contract

legal, but you could be making miscarbors with hydrocarburs with hydrocarbubors

illicitos and transports with the door of the door of the door open for a

place, because you're transporting with a license legal products illegals or you're

transporting with a license legal arms or narcotic or questions so that also is the

delicate of this issue, no, that's a whole an entramado and I

think that Guatemala has to put to investigate, Mexico to have to

investigate different maybe countries could are to be investigating all this, to disentraignate all this red. Let's see now that Rocha is

a testigo-proteged, is talking about this, no? Who are people are involved in this? We'll be. We'll see. But this is gravisim, gravisim. So, that, for example, I can't say

that in one of the camions of petrol, that he had a licensee legal, to transporter, because he had this vinkul between Guatemala and Mexico,

arms for a grand cartel, that we know what is. Exactly. So, you can transport,

ah, I, I'm, this, gasoline here in this, in this carmion,

and that could be full of, this, of Wachicol, no, for example, and you

are you transporting with a document legal, because you're of the company that

that has, and you know, and you passas for the door over the house,

no, so, like, or you could be to be making, that you

were doing, with vacas of roba where were in arms occultas or narcotics or questions

like. But you facilitated the things because you have a license to move

to make apparently legal. I don't know if me explain. Now,

a bad moment he elijed for that this scandal to be

the kind of because I think the Miss Universe that

always was the joyita of Donald Trump and Donald Trump is

impecined in to cover with the narcotrachic I'm imagine that Trump

should be able to be making to be doing that's doing

roach in any moment she call Claudia and

he what is what did you what because the really

no I imagine that Trump not don't have

that was with the same universe, that was a franchise of him during decade. And they're in the universe, Trump has castigated a much, and he, he, Trump has castigated

a Mexico and he has signaled much, saying, the politicians are lederated by the carc. So, I'm sure that you're going to know of this. No, no, in any moment he'll call Trump, a Claudia, because as he called Maduro, to

say, what is this circle between Guatemala? Rocha, the other, but what are doing? I mean, I think this is to escalar now, because Rocha, it's a bad moment for when, when, when, so, when, so, when, so it occurred to Rocha, that was a good idea to laver with the Miss Universe?

That's bad, no, that's it. There's, he was the train of the head that this type he fell

the he were, the people because there no

there is not a world this man he

went to get to make he made he

did a show off cre don't Trump and

he he got he he got the money

did do this is a preceptive, it's a perfect, it's a scheme perfect for to lavineer, but perfect. So, if you

are unying these pieces, you are going to know how were you're constructing this scheme of the business

illicit, because this, this gets a planation, for that's called a crime organized. So, there's an

organization to do that this operation. All this was planned, co-organized, was executed, and I,

and I think it's, I think, it's, I think, it's, universe because it's very easy to allow the money. And simply ask you, now that you've

used in this universe, what's patrocynees? What's patrocinios what do you see important in this universe? Do you know, of some of a lotrocyne important? As it's in the Worldial, no. As

it's in a tennis cop, don't know. What do you live right in these universes? I mean, what were their entrances of money? Because all of that

production costed. I mean, that's not it's gratis. Obviously, they're they're in the licenses of the countries, they're all of those, but they'll sell the tourism of every country, but that's not

sufficient for producing this. Yeah, but a tournament of tennis, we'll see a Mercedes-B or we've seen American Express in Turing. In a partio of football, the FIFA, vend in a Worldial

all, is all all, all right, all now, it's been sold all, Apple, Amazon, a whole, no there are no, there's

no show without, my show, without, misuniverse, what market we've really important

and really global is, like to say, ah, yeah, I'm getting where you're,

to find out, you know, so, really, that's also, there's a, questionarly, yeah,

from a point of view, yeah, more strategic and more economic, we're to

look, they're not, to pay them, not, to pay all this, and if not, of where

the money to pay all that? It's another question, very delicate. No, no, no.

I imagine. No, I imagine. Now, this invulucra to two countries,

two places that have to give explanations. We're talking of the petroleum

Guatemalteco. The Guatemala has some mine's impressive and if no

know, it has an And obviously, very very close of Mexico where they need

arms, that we know who they need, a man that has a casino, that's

that has had been a problem with another cartel. So, how

you can say that has been nothing to be the misuniverse with

the crime organized. That's what I'm what I know

that has said this, and with what we are we're going to here, it's evident

the corruption of the certament. Because, the other with a little time, how it's a little

time? Did you some little an auditory, they did a little to declare to that.

So, that's, also, we're going to know, so only it's saying to the

air. But I don't I'm sure, Javier, as how we've been

been pronosticating all the things, I I'm I'm

next few days, will call the attention and will start and will be to be to start

and perhaps that's going to start to start more people. And what there is what will

after this no? Who more can't? And with what he will

say, we'll be declared because if is a detective protected, he has

the obligation to declare or, has the obligation to delat to who were

to who were socius or with the operators with who

he to declare. And we'll to see this, in what it's a lot. Now, the that should be in pañal is all cagado, it, should be this Guatemalteco, that was a

councillary, that then he gave to him in that legacy, a mine of gold, no? That's infinitive is. So, they're to

go to all over. Or the President of Guatemala in that moment? Is it? Is it is involved? No, I'm not involved. Almost

sure that is involved to look. The president Yamatee when termed his mandate

in 2004, the United he revoked I think to the two days

his visa to enter to the United because he was one of the government

most of the entire of the history of Guatemala so imagine

one of the government most of the entire the the

that was the man was that was of that the

president and a Mario Bucar, still right, not have been able to get a

in nothing, no, but as you say, it'll be spantadish right, to be,

to be, if not me get a relation with those contracts, to be what I

know, to be a lot pretty pretty pretty very much. I'm going

in shock with what you've to try, you know, I'm saying in serious, look

that I've seen, corruption, investigated, to the Chavist has investigated to the narcotraficant, investigated to political,

I've been in Miami, that is the cuna of the corruptors, but this so, so, that Disney is a little,

how it has tegid, in a form that far that's so infantil and so obvious,

I would I would I, measure to the government Mexican, that not

to lave to lave the image to rocha, because It's going to be very complicated because,

we're in a moment that the area is complicated. If it's for invading Venezuela

or Venezuela will Tram wants to end with the cartel of the

and that are all in the milis now. They're all exposed.

How this is going to be to get complicated. I think that's it's

justaped a one that not to salpick caquita for

all the and And look, what's graciously, that's that's through

a course, because if this, not this, it's not this, probably.

Sure, and keep your Javier, not me you're going to believe, not me

you're going, but the worst, even no, not, and it's not, it's not,

is that I'm saying the same, and me you're trying that's something, and I

said, no, no, or so, still, there are more? Still, still there

more, this can still be still still still to be to respond to this notice, and I think it could still

start things more more grave still. I want to say that we're seeing that we're seeing all the governments, and I think that I'm going to be seeing this program all the leaders that

have to resolve this, because of really, if you see what we're doing what we're, Rodrigo, we're trying, is a problem implacable of coronation never seen in the history I'm talking about

we're talking in the exploitation of petroleum of Guatemala the gentleman that has a little of the carino for Guatemala has to

have to saltar like leach airbida and what could have been gestated in many years between Guatemala and the

frontera with Mexico and that should be there there yeah look

the Wachikon said that was one of the frauds more grand as have been

in all the history of Mexico the Wachikol but it was only to that's

a scandal to let me a Mexico right this open the

door to that that all the that all

much more that's it's filtering all this to

Guatemala so imagine now how what going to

go the government M M Mita Mita Mita

Mita Guatemala has to, but to reunire the Congress today's right. We'll see what what happens, Javier. I'd just

try this this news that the people did the own own conclusions and we

will see in the next days what's the next no, no, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry I'm going to repeat I, Rodrigo has to try the proof

contundente how Rocha consigue the The exploitation of petrolio, hydrocarburos, and all the Minister of Mineria in Guatemala, he does a cart, Blanca, rocha. A man that no had a state financial to demonstrate that could

expletorough the petroleum of Guatemala, he's not done for his amistat, who today is the CEO of Luis Borg, a Guatemalteco, political, that with the ex-president, according to the United most corrupts of the history of Guatemala, they're a card a blank for to have access to total of a frontier where they can

pass arms, money, and petrolio, as if he'd the want, for a cartel, for a government, for an empresario,

this opasca completely to Pemex and the papa of Fathima, that were little to this act of corruption international. In a

day where the minister of Claudia says that no there are indicios of crime organized in the corona. For favor,

sir, minister, you're presidenciable, not be insuci with this case because no will

be able to get a rocha with nothing. And a corona not is what Mexico

needs. No, I need a coroner and some diamonds in a little little chica.

What he needs is that this terminate, for favor, the flage of a

society of women, women, children, adolescents, that are for a Mexico

better, we need a little a little chica with a crown with

perlittas in the head. That is the less. We need that this

end. Mexico has much more glories than Fattima Bosch. It's the

people that's all the day to give to their those are the

Mises of really. Mises are all the Mexicans of the feet that are in all the day to teach a child to cure a new, to cure a unfermo, or to vendor tacos in the

case. Those are our mucs we have to vener today. Oh, we'll bidem not of Fatima Bosch, that's a chick, a woman, of family rich, of accommodates, and abodeled. That corona no has

no has value for us who we want a Mexico more great. Let me see. Let's see. Let's see a point. No, I could have said more.

Justly it's what I think. And also, Javier, as always to say, that any something that

me get to pass, Javier, I mean, I'm always I'm always I don't have enemies, more than

Raul Rocha, that has been attacked me at through this. Any other that I get to pass,

Javier, I go directly responsible to Raul Roch Cantu, for that you know, too,

and that all the people know, Raou Rochakantu, if something to happen, he is the responsible to me or to any of my family. I want to

to be able to that Rodrigo no he wants to suicide. Exactly. I don't want suicide. And any

news of that I'm a suicide not certain, whatever thing, Raul Rochikantu is the responsible of all that.

You're just imagine what is going to be going to evidently you're going to you're going to exactly

but as you know but as Fabier this is doing too because they've

been using instrumentalizing to my his for to intimidate for amazar me

for to keep me to give me to and this I do this is

simply for to give to also to say to my

And I'm going to and I'm doing this, that I'm going to have abandoned and that I'm going and that's no time.

But that I'm that I'm going to be here. Wow, Rodrigo. Very strong. Very strong of what you're

doing. And very strong of what is motivated for a sentiment of the father. And I

I'll ask the authorities. I know that I'm that, for favor, we'll give to Rodrigo

because it's an element important in this moment, because also has to he has

a security Mr. Minister and the President and the authorities of Guatemala also and to anyone

that wants to pay the truth we need we need protection and that this

country us we need because we know we're taking a fact that

is a kind of a tsunami that And, oh, that waters of

tsunami limpien all this corruption. This corruption that came to a

picture of what he's going to be going to that front of the border. It's

so it's called, I'm a man, I think, crime organized. They're

that they were all prepared for that the Guatemalteco is the CEO

of the MIS universe and to to all the people

that were in those people were in the people, even of those

those who those who are the people, they're they're they're they're

they're to get, if they didn't do this, today, this man is a

testigo that has to be saying how the crime was to a

concert of my university. Those did all, he burlough of

all he put the coroner and there we're not we don't

we're we think we've we're to or that collaborate

but that collaborate in serious no jod thank again

again for the confidence of this program thanks for this exclusive and we

know we we know that always that's that it has

repercution international, and also I hope the next because I know there's more. There's much. Much of

thanks, for your support Javier, of the really. And thanks to all the chikas that are

with you that's there's going to protect, our production also that also, that he's a

dayer to to get this information so delicate. Thank Rodrigo and Tortuba. Ex-Cio

of the Miss Universe, the man who more knows of what is what's

going to rocha his soci and this cause that I'm

going to say I'm saying this is the second round we're

we're the first was the father this is the this is the

of Guatemala the the next you don't imagine

how what is I'm I'm I'm all I'm

all so, don't be to open to not to love

and the image to never, expect because when you know

when you know, maybe change of opinion. Much thanks. I want

to ask you part of this program because has been a

incredible all what we have done. Tomorrow I've been with

the abode of Newer that is very and

I want to I know the Kevin, Kevin Cass, who is my director of the work of the theater,

let me ask a great, to Kevin, eh? No, Javibi, no. Javid, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. A bit.

Uh-huh. A be. As soon, connect me to Kevin, I'm a, I'm going to, uh, with an ultimate hour.

For favor, I'm an ultimate hour. Ultima hour. Ultima Hour Gerardo Martin Rincon

abogado of Romina a daughter of Dulce you're in the air working with the

abacons of Alisa Villa real Noticia in the last what's what is

Gerardo how how are good good good a good of you're

sitting right precisely of a a little of an audience the day of today in the morning

they're on the documental to say the senior Francisco N, because

not said to pay to Kandu for the intention of the proceedings

this this was the co-in- the officer Arturo

with with the team that we have in the Angels California

to to get to get a San Diego and we we

we want to pay the company of a sheriff policeia

for that no there was aggression and not inventing another question. Right after I'm going to start informing with the media

and other people who just are detained for the FBI. I'm corroborating this information. I'm going to that's all right.

Wow. Seniors, it's, it's a justice or not to get to the justice when hoden

and jodden and jodden. This is very important of what was saying Brincon, we're

to try to check- the information but you me that you know the authorities

Northamerican have in the target to Francis N. I mean if the

morning we're to bring a document for the sir Francisco

to through the federal of California was it was a

document with the effect of that cece of that

cause to cause damage and to be to to be informed,

to me, I mean, I'm not having to I think it's any of the process that

we're the new that I'm the day of that he said that he sent you that he put

on a and that she attempted to with her and that she was and that's, and who was

he knew, and not he said to come on his and to the of the Yeah, it's official, and is already putting the denuncias from there

a million, also the woman of the United. What pedote that's armando, sirs, what's important what he was to try.

The abogado of Romina Mircoli, a daughter of D'Ulce, that's with Arturo and the team of

Mariel Colon, abogada, Adisa, Villareal. I said when those I interviewed to all those these abogos.

I was with Arturo also Gerardo me put to have the possibility of to talk to him. They're the

abogados that's moving to put a Francisco Cantu or Francisco

N. In his his place to have molestated to Romina to menace to my

media to call her as much as a woman and a Lisa Villarral

she he's he to a concert in San Diego for what

he put an order of restriction. Gerardo, this is very very strong. Here we're seeing the team, Marielle Colon, Arturo,

the team of California, Miami, and Mexico. A, a team a great. Look,

that all all gets in a moment. I'm still trying to be if you have been

or not, what I want to do you want to be to be to be in to appear

to be not, no, not me confirmed right with the important.

But it has to to be with another denuncia more, a third denunciation grave

that has been to have been with... There's seven denuncias a total.

A person who who wants to mention the man, that I think

is, one one one a time, the she said

that she, after the baby that he he obligue to

take the notice right in the United she said

she said well and he said he said he he to put in the

hand to the ruse, that she did he and she did it and he was a

mad, he said a little and he and felled with him. So I didn't

you know he said before to know to his husband to the a bugle

to the mind redent and this not can be able so and yet he did

the indication to get the deno and I was I'm and I'm saying

I'm saying that's the police of the United because Dese

that What he sent you mares, anxiety, that's a year that he obliged to this year. This is very grave,

a bad a denuncias of you of you denuncias from Mexico, denuncia of the

team of California obviously what he did with Alicia that is to assure

to me me he said that he had been a man of Alicia

Villarreal and for So that's pele-ed with Cruz Martin. I mean, so are

declarations very grave. If it is a matter, it's grave-sim

Yeah. I want to say, pardon, I want to comment that in coordination

with Maria Colone, and Arturo Hernandez, also we're

in Mexico, the documental yeah I'm I'm going to

do you know, morari occasioned and psychological and I And I'm going to have, this,

to accompany her in a process additional of what is to have advanced, more a denunciable because recently a menace to Kandu

to Alicia and Hugo. He said that he's not to start to be affecting. He confirmed his amazas

and he said in red. So this is a much burla that against the woman I don't know

what's the I don't know that's a family in government, my co-cunado. And apart, I'll say something that we'll

say a lot too, a card that's a letter that I'm going to then I'll know the first first to be

first. For favor, Gerardo, we're we're the case of the second,

we're the first in discover this man, after obviously, obviously all the

investigation that we have done, all the what he was to Romina, what he passed to

Alicia, we've been with Mariel Colon also in exclusive We've got all the Procedingium

and finally Arturo and Gerardo that called with me about a little and today this news Gerardo Rincon

you're putting in alert a maximum to know to know what is this subject and we're going

to be and we're doing the answer I'll let me perfect thanks thank you

thank thank you thank you thank you all over the silence the the abodado

Romina his daughter of Duce with on effect of Francisco Cantu we Don't

separate from my social Instagram TikTok because possibly you know

newties in a rattle that's what I'm that I'm I can't stop

and today is a Monday and so we're we're so well

well Kevin Cass I send a birthday a new year

on a new Oh, what I'm what they're talking here

what you're what I'm not no no what I oh

my oh my no what I know no what I that

that that that for who for Kevin Cass obviously

because we we're we we're here our producer

of the theater and me he he let's record to

say it's Cyber Monday and then it's the free one for one for the theater of The Big Show the 19 of December in where we're to be together

with Javier Seriani I'm Fatima Marcelle Iglesias and Rova and today is the last day for this promotion of Locos

you have to use the word Serianita for that you make the discount 2 for 1 19 of December

in Los Angeles Ohie no You know, you know what we're preparing is impressive but, but also I'm trying to

one. Call him to Kevin to call the phone and they're and they're asking for

the tickets. They've been a lot. They've been a lot. The Friday on the Friday,

for the grand scents of the TV on Cyber Monday. There's 754, 25,

25, 9, 46, 42. And today is the new? Felicenlo when

they call me, felicit them. You're very malo, Arturo. Only you know only you know, no, no.

Morning we're coming with the aboado in Noelia that put demand in Republic

Dominica against but now he's going to be going to get to this

moment, noelia to put me the demand also in the United

to the Fokke. Seniors, Seniors, we're we're going to after

maniana. Thanks totales. Cumpm we Thank you.