Javier Ceriani - Gloria Trevi nueva demanda - Gaby Spanic arremete sobre Alicia Machado | Javier Ceriani

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

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Starting point is 00:03:43 Kevin, here, come. A bit, a big, serianita. Well, have patience,
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Starting point is 00:05:50 and I'm going to give us, and Veeeeo in vivo, here with us, destroys a
Starting point is 00:05:56 Tio, Fedrico. He said Imelda, of Anna Gargara, of Angelica Vale, of all his
Starting point is 00:06:01 amours, but also of what is going with the herence of Joanne Sebastian.
Starting point is 00:06:07 But in minutes, in minutes, I'm going to talk very serious of Venezuela. If
Starting point is 00:06:15 someone knows, where is the place, where's the money the
Starting point is 00:06:20 money of the rescatista, of the bombers, of those edifices that did that was
Starting point is 00:06:24 that that place, I discovered I where the plough the plata of Maduro, the Testa-ferro of Maduro
Starting point is 00:06:34 that's that's the structures of the Venezuelans. I'm going to be very serious. Luis Chateau,
Starting point is 00:06:41 the communicator more grand of Venezuela will be going to us so I'm so I'm an show
Starting point is 00:06:46 incredible. But I don't know I'm nobody without the serianitas and where
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Starting point is 00:08:19 of saludos. I'm really most much those of my colleagues, colleagues of YouTube also. Thanks to Flore Rubio that me sent those other YouTubers
Starting point is 00:08:27 that mean, that they're more or more but even made a little. So, because we have to recognize the
Starting point is 00:08:32 effort, because when one he goes well when one is Well, we know we have a saluditutes of one of our collaborators that's that's passing a moment difficult with Venezuela. We're going to see it. Hello, family.
Starting point is 00:08:46 How are you? Well, I'll see it. First, our own, our best friend, Hamer Serey. But no, they're not going to be an new bed-exclusively,
Starting point is 00:08:55 super predictions, and, on a new content that in the space, and in magic, full of love, and no, the tension,
Starting point is 00:09:04 oh, God, but what is a new great for the so Javier, here I desire you desiretos, I'd love all the sullenitos, no no us peddhers to nothing, because the growth of Javier, oh, God, no, no, ever,
Starting point is 00:09:16 no, never, no, ever, and so, Javier, I'd always, much success, much abundance, much felicity, that the exit is, because it's much exit for you,
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Starting point is 00:13:13 No, I can't believe. And what what happened with Eduardo Verastegi? Verastig, prison! Preso! Preso!
Starting point is 00:13:23 Preso! Verasteggi, prison! He, he was arrested to Verastegi. The arrest... Where did it?
Starting point is 00:13:30 We're arrested, we're going to be here. We have a reclusory where there's a gunnerstegi? No! That's great! Impressionant. Senora,
Starting point is 00:13:41 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm with the Tachi, the Tachi, the Tachia, for the Natasha? For who? Well,
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Starting point is 00:13:58 have to filter there because they were in Colombia and it it's been in rumored and they're inborrachar the fans of Angel Aguilar. But that's suena.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Oh, it's super interesting. You're like one of the fans. Look, look. Look, I'm more with this. An applause for the cuckus, for favor. Then, me, try the chism of the Angle-A-Leglar.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yes, my, my, I'm, what you want, what you want to you, what you want, oh, oh, oh, mon-sit, what you want,
Starting point is 00:14:25 what you want, what you want. Seniors, we are, we're in our new studio. We're here, Felicest and I have a
Starting point is 00:14:31 Saluda of a colleague that I want and we're going to put because I'm to talk to Alicia Manchado Venezuela and
Starting point is 00:14:39 my invite that has to have to the case Trevi Andrade Felicides to Javier
Starting point is 00:14:49 Seriani for this new step of your program to all the serianitas that they
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Starting point is 00:14:58 team of your team of they desire the better because working, so you can't the results and you're still. Bessos grand, my dear Javier. Ta-mood. You know,
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Starting point is 00:15:24 the a little bit of, the sillia, me to move her. It's pesidim. No, you know, what it cost to back her, to the mountain,
Starting point is 00:15:32 to the studio. Well, I want to say to you guys that I'm very Felon, we're trying Firmative, the quantity of invited us that we're going to have VIPs. So, I'm going to give them. To be the same. To give them, how like
Starting point is 00:15:46 we've got to be saluditos of the people. While they're the saludites of the people, we're putting here some little someuditos. I want to
Starting point is 00:15:59 say you guys that oh, thank you. Thank you, Maria Guadalupe. Thanks to all the people that are waiting my invite. There's much support. Appobey in this channel.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Pongan like. Compartan. We're a surprise because Instagram has approved a surprise for the serianitas. The serianitas are approved
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Starting point is 00:16:34 I'm going to say you're going to do a life anoach but I'm better
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Starting point is 00:16:44 find us today I'm very very of Venezuela is going to
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Starting point is 00:16:57 social a stichid social if these cynics no
Starting point is 00:17:03 they're there's a there's a thing very very because it's
Starting point is 00:17:09 in the term in the termino no is a a conspiration
Starting point is 00:17:15 the robo of the people in in sequesters in in terremoto
Starting point is 00:17:20 but it's very very delicate yeah yeah was Tim Ballard
Starting point is 00:17:24 the socio of Verastegue to not not he
Starting point is 00:17:28 doesn't you know you does films. You did do investigation about that in Colombia, but no
Starting point is 00:17:34 to rescue. No, we need this type of characters. Fatima Bosch, convienes that go to Venezuela with his corona abo-y-a-bo- and will irritate more to the people?
Starting point is 00:17:50 There are misses mortars. There are Mr. Venezuela are mortals. No is a moment that Fatima Bosch to Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And the bomb that I'm going to take today of Venezuela is very
Starting point is 00:18:06 very is a going to us to us he's the presentator
Starting point is 00:18:11 and the communicator most important of Venezuela and it is
Starting point is 00:18:16 going to I'm to you see where it is the
Starting point is 00:18:22 genesis of the recuento of the casas that were
Starting point is 00:18:24 that were made made made gum gum of
Starting point is 00:18:30 fiber of fiber of Goma. I mean, not concrete. Goma.
Starting point is 00:18:35 We're just we say goma pluma, goma or sponge. Like in Mexico
Starting point is 00:18:42 is a use, is puma. What they're to see is terrible. How
Starting point is 00:18:50 Chavez was, he was for the people. And we're we're
Starting point is 00:18:54 not as Chavez, not like a leader Bolivarian, but the
Starting point is 00:18:59 disaster the disaster that It's started to generate to have to have voters, and today, it costs the life to millions and millions of
Starting point is 00:19:09 Venezuelans. In the Guayra, there's a a moortus. No are millions. It's a cancula 5,000 more, or 50,000
Starting point is 00:19:24 in the final of the recont. Who are the culpable? We're going to Hugo Chavez. Those cases that repartio were of paper. What they're doing the influencers to go to look like
Starting point is 00:19:44 even, I that I have the right to talk to Venezuela, what if I was the because I'm occupied and I'm not a opportunist, even I have a sometimes I have respect
Starting point is 00:19:55 to talk of a a country that not is the me, how influencers are They're there to to show to askarse with the
Starting point is 00:20:03 water that are don't know they're they're to be to rescat people
Starting point is 00:20:10 you they're they're $450 dollars to to rescue to
Starting point is 00:20:14 your family the children that are only they're then
Starting point is 00:20:19 what they're to do what they're what they're what
Starting point is 00:20:25 he's that really did that the casas so can
Starting point is 00:20:28 and I get a very bad news for Venezuela. Segul those experts Chileans, the replicas in Venezuela are going to durer six months. No only is to save to the people that still still is alive, but to regard to the Venezuelans
Starting point is 00:20:49 of here for six months more. Who is going to occupy of this? Medics Austriacos, no can't come. The Spanioles just renunciated for the bureaucracy. The Puerto Ricanos, medical, don't they don't let them
Starting point is 00:21:05 do. The leader of the United was made to freer Aerepas to Diodado Cabejo
Starting point is 00:21:13 to let him to do you to work. The quantity of the drug that has Diodado
Starting point is 00:21:18 what what he doesn't want the Chavism that's when they come the
Starting point is 00:21:25 rescatists Delsi and the topos Mexicans this is nothing what I'm
Starting point is 00:21:31 saying is nothing has compared what I'm going to tell in a rato. And then how
Starting point is 00:21:38 to be how comportarse in a tragedy. Alicia Machado was one of the first
Starting point is 00:21:46 in about to recoudar to a place, where they're where they
Starting point is 00:21:50 are things to to make to a Venezuela. And
Starting point is 00:21:55 finally yesterday was to see to see to see
Starting point is 00:22:03 the to ask Serianita that you start to debate. It's a nice that Alicia Machado is a concert in Miami and poste the joy of
Starting point is 00:22:16 to be seeing a Carin-Leon while his people is still is dying she was to see as
Starting point is 00:22:24 Emiliano Agilar and he back on the videos. We'll see and you opinion. I'm
Starting point is 00:23:14 I'm going to go. I'm here. Kevin. here. Well, Alicia Machado with Carine
Starting point is 00:23:26 Leon in Miami, obviously desatinated the decision to mount a video, and also, what necessity
Starting point is 00:23:33 all the time to be posteating videos? We're not far as the social.
Starting point is 00:23:38 We're really with postear a concert. The concerts are to do you want to
Starting point is 00:23:44 let us. And, for favor, put em, here, here, here, there,
Starting point is 00:23:47 the, the comments of the So, did do you do get
Starting point is 00:23:51 a little in his life? Or no can
Starting point is 00:23:54 do you not a for this concert She said Joanna She doesn't a Venezuela
Starting point is 00:24:26 pertainse the cartel of Mexico very this she can go and guarders
Starting point is 00:24:31 the videos for respect but everyone more comments very
Starting point is 00:24:37 in the comments there you can let serianitas uh these are
Starting point is 00:24:42 the these are the miss universe alicia machado they are
Starting point is 00:24:46 they're they're criticing for having It's clear that, obviously, nobody can't be able to do something that's
Starting point is 00:24:56 going to. A she's a more because it's a woman, and because it's a, it's a, it's a universe, the Mises is supposed that are leaders
Starting point is 00:25:05 in the humanitarian, no, in, in, in, in, in, the causes, the foundations, for that's an MIS,
Starting point is 00:25:13 a Miss, a Miss, Venezuela, and a MIS, a MIS, a MIS, the reality is that,
Starting point is 00:25:18 not we can't say that Alicia no did you know that Alicia he's he's
Starting point is 00:25:25 he's he's he's also his family what what you know
Starting point is 00:25:32 you can't you're and we have to have to give me to give me
Starting point is 00:25:39 and to give like Gabi will be to be got to he
Starting point is 00:25:43 Gabriel Spanick that he's she was totally disarmated to
Starting point is 00:25:47 a her her mother, also, in the Gay Paray of the end of the weekend. And finally, sir, and ladies, uh,
Starting point is 00:25:54 jugger to God, what does each one with the other of their life and of the world. Senora and the,
Starting point is 00:26:00 of the Gardeña, Manjory of Sousa, another Venezuelan, of the farandula. Today we're going to be the
Starting point is 00:26:06 number of the term and the people the influencers that did you're a verguenza jenna
Starting point is 00:26:13 going to the other of The Fume of Gardeania, that alberged a many Venezuelans and many other people, a work of
Starting point is 00:26:22 theater multicultural also, also they were and they're a minute of silence. It's a day very difficult
Starting point is 00:26:31 and for me and for many of the companions that are passing. Today my my party was a group
Starting point is 00:26:38 and between the stombo and there's many, and I think a minute of silence to all of that
Starting point is 00:26:45 personal that you know to us and that's And that's the terrible for the russ. Well, all we're living.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Well, we know to Venezuela, all we the spectacle, and also know the immigrants.
Starting point is 00:28:09 In this case, Majorie, there was Caméjo and a lot of Cubans, that also
Starting point is 00:28:13 Mexico they opened the and they there's there rescatists Mexican, the topos
Starting point is 00:28:20 helping to Venezuela. And this is the, into the disgrace to the good of
Starting point is 00:28:26 us the American and we have to love us and we're more
Starting point is 00:28:31 more respect I'm I I've I did that I did
Starting point is 00:28:38 but a but sometimes the bandera to be the other banderas
Starting point is 00:28:46 and that's what you know you know you know you know you can you
Starting point is 00:28:52 can be an Haitian, can be a Chinese, can be someone of a country that you odys, because is a
Starting point is 00:29:00 person, and the fact that we are we're in banderas. Today, we're all we're
Starting point is 00:29:05 many many people, and have been, many, many, many, people,
Starting point is 00:29:11 because we're impacted a more these murders? Because a
Starting point is 00:29:17 sometimes we don't Minan, the No, know if you have a coroner in the head, if
Starting point is 00:29:31 you're poor, if you're rich, the death comes and it's all all the these are the
Starting point is 00:29:38 those the mortals of the terremoto of Venezuela 2026. Venezuela is of
Starting point is 00:29:47 LUTO, detrase of every building behind, the After every buskid desperated,
Starting point is 00:29:55 there's a family rota, a story interrupied and a life that no did you never to
Starting point is 00:29:59 do you. The terromotos that were not only just they were excombros, also
Starting point is 00:30:06 they were their victims reported is Shantal Moeus of only 22
Starting point is 00:30:12 years, second finalist of Miss Tourism La Waira 2016 Representative
Starting point is 00:30:17 of Caravadela and the winner of the premium Miselegance a young that
Starting point is 00:30:23 a person that was a little a person a manned
Starting point is 00:30:27 a manned a manned mr. tin tourism lagoa
Starting point is 00:30:33 two six I'm was a pilot private and he
Starting point is 00:30:36 had for the opportunity to represent to represent
Starting point is 00:30:40 to in the mr. tint tourism also the deputies also the
Starting point is 00:30:48 young footballist Jim Berber Rotteran was encountered between the scombros in La Guaira. His name yeah was part of the new
Starting point is 00:30:56 generation of football Venezuelan, but his career was done truncada too soon. Lamentable lyly, she confirmed the death of Yamina Maranella, esposa of the footballist Lucas Trejo and of his children, a A.anoa,
Starting point is 00:31:10 a tragedy familiar that has extremised to football. Another case that was the onemovee was the handrea, esposa of the footballist Hector Bello,
Starting point is 00:31:20 who perdi was the life while protectia Alana, a little more than a year, a little more
Starting point is 00:31:26 than a year, the music also is a lot of the DJ Marlon Perelo and was her wife
Starting point is 00:31:31 her husband who was being born and the scene of the rock Venezolano perdi
Starting point is 00:31:36 the band Banderditch who according they were on
Starting point is 00:31:41 playing when occurred the on the actress and Gabriela
Starting point is 00:31:45 Flerit recognized by programs as well Benveni-two, cheverissim. And to what you rye's? The information has been especially delicated, while some reports have been of his fallaciment. Familiares pidgedyre
Starting point is 00:32:00 and desminted versions no-confirmed. For respect to her and to her family, her case deignor numberers with care, until that exist a confirmation definitive. Descancen in peace, those who partied, force for who are people still waiting, noticias and the lives for a country that today carg a heredity immense. That's very, no?
Starting point is 00:32:26 Influencers? Models, actresses, workers, mothers, minnie, or her family, mothers
Starting point is 00:32:38 that were all their children. Not is to lose a one, perder a three and to your mom also. There were
Starting point is 00:32:45 cases terrible. No, can't be on Instagram they're without yoremos serianita
Starting point is 00:32:54 I know that you're very creas we're we're much for Venezuela
Starting point is 00:32:57 for that's there's there there's there there is much
Starting point is 00:33:05 not can rescat as it can not can rescat
Starting point is 00:33:09 without rescatists professionals I know the good I'm a
Starting point is 00:33:17 I'm I'm that all of help but the fact is that
Starting point is 00:33:22 they're to do the experts because if no it's
Starting point is 00:33:26 there there are some departments that have that
Starting point is 00:33:33 have some places of there there there there
Starting point is 00:33:36 there we're we have to that have passed
Starting point is 00:33:42 has been many and the experience and there
Starting point is 00:33:47 we have we people indignated. The people are very indignated. I know that will be Trump with Delsey-Rodriguez, but this is to
Starting point is 00:33:55 solution. This ped, this ped, they're to do you, they're to do with power, and have a decision of that the rescatists
Starting point is 00:34:03 enter. I, the command of the command of the command of the world, the Guard National Bolivariana.
Starting point is 00:34:13 That's clear. Some no they didn't enter because no they were not with the bureaucracia.
Starting point is 00:34:21 The people also can't there's that Spain has said okay, arreggled you're
Starting point is 00:34:26 problems with the rail line in the embassadalana because they're they're rescatists
Starting point is 00:34:31 and what they're the mafia that I you're I'm here
Starting point is 00:34:37 with the pilot of the Chapo Seniors is in my channel
Starting point is 00:34:41 here the interview of the pilot of the
Starting point is 00:34:43 chapo the the Goddo Cabelo and Mado had the pistons of aterrisage of the drug Colombian.
Starting point is 00:34:50 There, where are all these cities, is what you know that is the government of Delci and of
Starting point is 00:34:59 Goddard? And this time, I'm going to try another exclusive, that is the hered
Starting point is 00:35:07 of the cartel of Cali, that's the same. This is the flageel of Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Seniors and the world, what will be in our program today? Jose Manuel Figueroa
Starting point is 00:35:20 me gave an interview like never never said to nobody you know what you know what he
Starting point is 00:35:29 is going to do you Joe Joseph Manuel Figueroa contra Federico his Tio
Starting point is 00:35:33 contra Juliana contra Erica against the other hereders what
Starting point is 00:35:40 about of an Gargara you remember that I did you
Starting point is 00:35:45 did I an Barbara? Two abortes of Anna Barbara with Jose Manuel Figueroa? Les
Starting point is 00:35:56 I promised I came a new new season, because here not is the set. Here not are the
Starting point is 00:36:03 lights of colors. Here I go to the I'm a no, Jose
Starting point is 00:36:08 Manuel Figueroa this and many things more. The Imelda.
Starting point is 00:36:13 How is he doesn't Federico his Tio, Tederico,
Starting point is 00:36:19 And if he has He has He has He has He thinks that no can't pass?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Averiguan a little more. Today, Jose Manuel Figueroa destroza to his
Starting point is 00:36:32 Trio Galilea Mortyco is looking the work on telemundo
Starting point is 00:36:37 Azteca or is a strategy to do the same that's a time and
Starting point is 00:36:43 that televisa so that's so because Televisa no he
Starting point is 00:36:47 doesn't want if not they confirm, today 20-27, Galilea is going.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Seniors, Julio Preciado, Chulisarra, Gail, the coyote, there are things more than the
Starting point is 00:37:00 we're doing, we're to stop the oya of these ponsone for that you see how you
Starting point is 00:37:07 see how a day going to get to them and they're going to the deal with
Starting point is 00:37:13 the one of them what they have done. Seniors and So, yes, today, in our
Starting point is 00:37:18 program, will be here sat here in minutes, and they're to be able to share.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Because not going to be in one hour. Now, right right
Starting point is 00:37:26 right. I'm going to go to living to receive a one of the
Starting point is 00:37:31 victims most important and he was a person, he's
Starting point is 00:37:36 he said, he did all what was what was going to be
Starting point is 00:37:43 with us one of the victims more important, with information very very strong of the case.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And, also, Christian Nodal and Kassu in his poor moment. Seniors, that's, that's great. I'm happy. There's, Kassu, Nodal, and how will be
Starting point is 00:38:04 to end this situation? Me, I said, in Argentina, that's complicated-sima in the situation with Kassu, And nodal, in Minutes and Angelita in Colombia, what we've reined with
Starting point is 00:38:22 the sponges and the chorista that was more than Angel Aguilar. But well, sirs, Fathema Bosch, this is the bomb. This is the bomb. I'm going here, here, the bomb. A ver, here I'm here I'm here. Here I'm here.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Fatima Bosch, with a corona aboyed. And I want to put me serious. Mexico. The censura, no. Pemex, no is the duenio of Mexico. Or, yes, no I know.
Starting point is 00:39:03 The censura that is suppuestered delegatement, the papa of Fatima Bosch to medios as great as the Eraldo,
Starting point is 00:39:18 he was the column to a colleague because the The titular was the coroner aboyed the periodist that confirmed that Fatima saw encounters
Starting point is 00:39:32 to recouded money with and privateers and politicians for a car to and his encounter with Rocha in Monaco it complica no we can't permit that one miss
Starting point is 00:39:49 mande to censurar a a periodist of Elerald we're not He has many years. Seniors, me going to parrownica
Starting point is 00:40:01 Ah, parra, before, before, before, before, that's good that me made, that we
Starting point is 00:40:07 had a gay parade, and the end of the last time, was she was
Starting point is 00:40:11 we've much, she, she, she, she, she doesn't much the
Starting point is 00:40:14 diversity, we're, we're images of Veronica with her poncho Sarah
Starting point is 00:40:20 Leghi, we're to be, if I for you, not tend we're a few you're
Starting point is 00:40:27 you're the three hundred six days of the year for having a fiest
Starting point is 00:40:32 asy the that you need to you know the that we know
Starting point is 00:40:37 the for all those you present Angelo thanks thank
Starting point is 00:40:44 to thank you thank you thank so you get to goce goce
Starting point is 00:40:49 amen is the only that we know that's the in serious, amad. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Masquer, much, the Latino, much, and the respect, me. Much. Well, until now, it's all good, because we see a Veronica Castro, the gay and the amans, the trans, they have imitado much. She is bisexual. It's a good that do this. Lindo, bestido, no, is if it was of the cavalier or of who
Starting point is 00:41:19 was, but, well, she wants to tap it. And with those ponchos, eh? It's like a lechusa. But, well, another. The lechusa. The lechusa of Abdul. But, well, no, I don't, I think, for tanta pluma,
Starting point is 00:41:38 tant a thing, cullgant. Who, who also, invited as reina of the gay, was racked in the portillo. We're going to see her in the paray of San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Let's see, for favor there was our Rakenel Portillo there
Starting point is 00:41:58 representing to the gay in in a parade of San Francisco there
Starting point is 00:42:04 are there are all the serianitas not don't be let us
Starting point is 00:42:07 let's let's well Rackenel with this gay parade and
Starting point is 00:42:18 there is Rackenel in San Francisco And And they They've And they're
Starting point is 00:42:26 A Gros Nobody Nobody he asked Armando for Yuri
Starting point is 00:42:33 So they asked to Gloria Who poste that Juri that he
Starting point is 00:42:38 put a like a Karina Yapor Yurie appo to the
Starting point is 00:42:45 other victims or the victims of Sergio Andrade put like
Starting point is 00:42:49 Armando the insults saying you're Christian you You're about God, you're in our mess,
Starting point is 00:42:55 you're a traitor. And they they're going to Gloria Trevi for Yuri, thanks to that we're in this
Starting point is 00:43:03 channel that we have to keep to and share. Because here we're what you don't you
Starting point is 00:43:06 have done other other can't this can't like, share,
Starting point is 00:43:13 and share it, because no in all the you're to find this
Starting point is 00:43:16 information. Look, look, Gloria, no can't respond and it
Starting point is 00:43:21 does the men's the Let's see. Oh, of Rakenel, how is that in the hospital? Oh, chico, you know, I don't want to talk
Starting point is 00:43:29 of the questions personal of other people. Look, guys. More well, you have to pray for the other and to be for the health of all, not?
Starting point is 00:43:37 To be this time of Yuri, what's going to be a man in the state, there's a separation? Of what, I don't know, the relation with Yuri or you, how would
Starting point is 00:43:47 describe it? I, I, no, I, I, look, So, so, oh, Look, look.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Now, see, oh, but I'm sorry. Look, look, guys. Mandate. Nother.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Because she would be about people. Coupid, Cooid, Cicos, I don't have an amissat
Starting point is 00:44:05 with nobody, but with nobody, de verda. Gloria Trevi, about of this situation, and we have a post
Starting point is 00:44:19 of Armando for that remember me in what had passed. Because now we're going to get a
Starting point is 00:44:25 very delicate. To the supuces in Christ not have a lot of where to get the
Starting point is 00:44:31 head. That's a messia. And penachos, which are those who use a Yuri,
Starting point is 00:44:36 how there people hypocrite, ridicula, the insults, de-leal, about of the
Starting point is 00:44:41 tradition, they've been in my mess and in our house, nobody,
Starting point is 00:44:45 as nobody, as nobody, as a person, and they do it
Starting point is 00:44:49 and never Glory to Trevy in the scenario. Seniors, here I'm serious. When I did this study
Starting point is 00:45:02 that you are doing here, I was I was I was I was I was
Starting point is 00:45:12 for always. Utilers what God me did because if God see that you
Starting point is 00:45:18 don't use the things for well, you have much gratitude
Starting point is 00:45:23 and much respect for the things that that me God to do
Starting point is 00:45:26 God. He promised to God that this studio, the Agila Studios, that is in a mountain protected by the force of the nature, it was to be a bunker,
Starting point is 00:45:41 a place to have to to abrassar and albergare to all the women that have been maltreated and abusated, also to women
Starting point is 00:45:54 and to but what good that I runco this week I'm this
Starting point is 00:46:00 invite of ladies good pleasure hello Marlene Calderon welcome
Starting point is 00:46:09 a applause but much emotion oh Marlene the pleasure
Starting point is 00:46:14 of ladies thank for thank you thank for here
Starting point is 00:46:20 thank you not it's not for pleasure to Los Angeles but there
Starting point is 00:46:25 there a luch. I've heard Javier and I love, I'm a
Starting point is 00:46:33 love your empathy, I'm like right that you know, I'm really that this cause in
Starting point is 00:46:40 that you that's, and as you know, it's a bestead to be a man,
Starting point is 00:46:46 amen. And that sitate because that's the place that you to make to be
Starting point is 00:46:51 a lot that's about that's exactly, exactly. Exactly. All our
Starting point is 00:46:53 love, all the Luce, we're for Venezuela, what is in our hands, a or something.
Starting point is 00:46:59 What do you? What's what? It's a tragedy. But, like you already,
Starting point is 00:47:05 no there, and there's banderas. Here is the empathy. Nobody we're exempt of a
Starting point is 00:47:12 disgrace so. And Mexico has been. The Mexico, has lived.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Much countries, but there in that union, because for me the union,
Starting point is 00:47:22 is God. The love, for me is God. So, it's a disgrace, the perid
Starting point is 00:47:30 human are irreparable. That is the major disgrace. Lament I'm so,
Starting point is 00:47:38 I'm so I'm much, the mothers that's their kids, their
Starting point is 00:47:41 kids, their kids, all fathers, in general, a brother,
Starting point is 00:47:45 with his, sin her mother, we're we're we're the
Starting point is 00:47:49 power of the power of the question, and I, think
Starting point is 00:47:51 that all with a granite of a arena we can do we can make that Venezuela after all
Starting point is 00:47:58 what has passed. So, that's the life, my dear Javier. There are
Starting point is 00:48:03 some times that get in cascada, the and you do you have lived? I've
Starting point is 00:48:09 talked. But here I'm with many and very very very glad to have
Starting point is 00:48:14 this space. I'm to give a beautiful to all the serianitas
Starting point is 00:48:19 that they're to see to all the people empathic, that has been very upendant of this case, of
Starting point is 00:48:25 what is happening and no he's not just the days, to be notices. How do you're living you, Marlene, Calderon? I want to tell you to the public enter, Marlen, has been in the carcels. Marlene
Starting point is 00:48:39 has lived the infirno more grand of her life, and Gloria Trevi, Rakenel, Sergeo Andrade, and the other victims. Marlene here, you are, they're are supporting the serianitas.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Marlene, we're going to tell your story because there's much people new. There's also there's much people
Starting point is 00:48:59 international that are seeing in Spain, in Europe, in Latin America. Marlen, how you you're in
Starting point is 00:49:06 this clan? We're seeing we're seeing sequestrar in the termottes. Oh, that's
Starting point is 00:49:12 good that mentioned that. And that the tract of persons, you're they're living and
Starting point is 00:49:18 they're publicas, but that's all the days. Every day. There's a price for
Starting point is 00:49:24 a price for women of young. Marlene, how you you can't in this clan?
Starting point is 00:49:30 Well, I don't be a very extensive, but it's important to say, because there
Starting point is 00:49:37 a public, a public very great that there that maybe no know the case or
Starting point is 00:49:42 that they know I'm going, well, I was a little
Starting point is 00:49:45 in the mochis with many virtues of artistic in
Starting point is 00:49:49 Los Mochis, Inaloa, was the artist local, was a little, a class of classes of
Starting point is 00:49:55 a class of dance, in the academy, and well, Alin, who had been the
Starting point is 00:50:03 was, who I know, in that moment, so I had 13 years.
Starting point is 00:50:08 13 years. 13 years. Lans his disc of Chikas Fais, then goes to the
Starting point is 00:50:15 radio of the Moshis Inalo to do a presentation, a show of
Starting point is 00:50:20 promotion, and they're a man, that I'm to make the concert
Starting point is 00:50:27 of Alin. Alina Hernandez. Alin. Alin. Alian. Alian. Alie.
Starting point is 00:50:31 No, and who was our heroina in to get a book in 1998, the glory
Starting point is 00:50:38 for the Inferno and that's a woman admirable sumamely attacked in those
Starting point is 00:50:44 times has been 30 and many-and- many-tant- years. Correct. And that
Starting point is 00:50:49 and that I adore, that I do know, and that, I'm, that, tristently, the part that's trying to put in contra, me put, but how, if Alin you get, no, no, no, no. A, no, no, Lynn, a me
Starting point is 00:51:00 he no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, know, I'm, and I, went to another of the chikas, that also, was a victim,
Starting point is 00:51:10 Lucia, and Lucia is the who's the who's the, and there's where me says, oh, yeah, is that there
Starting point is 00:51:16 a vacante of chorista Miralyn was chorista of Gloria Trevi and and, look, Aline Arrace, Alin, he's artist. Alin had 15 years. I mean, I mean, I said, and well,
Starting point is 00:51:29 then I pitted the data, passed on, no, I know, some of some weeks, and they're gonna be a lot of my house, to say,
Starting point is 00:51:38 I don't know who was Sergio Andrade, Gloria Trevi for me was a artist, but not was who I admired me explain, I mean, I'm I'm saying, I mean, I'm
Starting point is 00:51:48 not sure, no me lo t'emone a mal, but I never was a fan of Gloria. But was an artiste, you know, I'm a quote, a little bit of a little bit, because I really no visualized other
Starting point is 00:51:58 more than being artist in my life. Well, sure, many, many of that passion and we do we love us. Sure, but, well,
Starting point is 00:52:06 well, I was, I'd like, I'd like, to works musicales, being a and me
Starting point is 00:52:13 they're saying of the audition I don't know I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:52:18 I'm my let's let's I'm I'm I'm like
Starting point is 00:52:22 I'm like I'm for favor let's go let's my
Starting point is 00:52:27 my father, my papito beautiful I am and I adore this
Starting point is 00:52:31 he he pay the bill my my money of my
Starting point is 00:52:35 professor of my we've espantosa of Jose Maria Iglesias in the city
Starting point is 00:52:42 there in the city of Mexico and it's an audition the audition
Starting point is 00:52:47 I think was different conformed all the reports of my new new
Starting point is 00:52:53 my new and because I auditioned standing my
Starting point is 00:53:00 mom and my profe and Sergio Andrade so what
Starting point is 00:53:03 was to act to do it to model to do
Starting point is 00:53:10 he, he said that he had much potential, that in two
Starting point is 00:53:14 years, I'm done I'm imagine you know, imagineate, provincial
Starting point is 00:53:19 a provinceana, you know, that I, that I, that I'm that I'm going to
Starting point is 00:53:26 automatically yeah, the chorus. Why? Because, because I, you'd be prepared
Starting point is 00:53:32 to, yeah, I'm being a part, I'm going to prepare more,
Starting point is 00:53:37 something that no. I, I mean, I, as I don't only not only did I never, it was not,
Starting point is 00:53:42 more than, so where there was that there was a capacity of classes of vocalization, of classes of all of that, all that was,
Starting point is 00:53:49 because I want to be very clear and specific in that he got to be a sudden a class of because there
Starting point is 00:53:57 was a new and it was to a part of and I'm sure, to do the circus or
Starting point is 00:54:02 another victim. The circus yeah, yeah. Yeah, so precisely. And, well,
Starting point is 00:54:06 it was, it was a rapid, is a thing that me cost a much work.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Javier, I, I, for the verguen for the badgwens, for the
Starting point is 00:54:19 pain, that I caused to my parents and that much years, I
Starting point is 00:54:24 felt I felt like that I think, I'm many-tant years, I've
Starting point is 00:54:30 worked, and I know, and I'm because I in the in the in the
Starting point is 00:54:36 In the culp, in the depredators, in a organization coercitivist, that yeah existia before I was before I was very soon, very pronto, the
Starting point is 00:54:50 coercion, the, to have me that day in a quarter, disc ensuing, and all the day, and that will
Starting point is 00:54:59 get Sergio to see you, and you're a little, and, well, you were a little, and,
Starting point is 00:55:04 water without food I'm with all the time to take the
Starting point is 00:55:07 water of the time of the but even I'm yeah, I'm was a
Starting point is 00:55:13 remember very well was Maria Rakenel who's and in a moment I was there
Starting point is 00:55:20 was nobody subia and I get dormied and I'm with a
Starting point is 00:55:24 with suns and sadada and and da the casuality
Starting point is 00:55:28 when I still when I started up Mary and me
Starting point is 00:55:31 said that was my debut I'm talking to really to the second third day.
Starting point is 00:55:38 My mom if I said in the city of Mexico. Because I was, I was to start a
Starting point is 00:55:44 short-jira. It were in those moments we're in the finales of the 901. But you
Starting point is 00:55:48 were in the famous house? Sure. Yeah. I was only, I was alone
Starting point is 00:55:53 in that moment and the modus operandi, you know was that this, this chick
Starting point is 00:55:59 in the case, that was a year, to have had gotten before before I,
Starting point is 00:56:03 and no you know you is that is my sangrona and she she's she's
Starting point is 00:56:08 she's for a for a wow she she yeah no no
Starting point is 00:56:13 it's horrible it's horrible and what you and what you know you
Starting point is 00:56:18 did you know because Sergio was because Sergio was so so
Starting point is 00:56:22 so I'm I'm I'm just only I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:56:27 I'm I'm I'm and then you can't you can't be a
Starting point is 00:56:31 school of Alta Rendiment, does me favor, no? And what
Starting point is 00:56:36 that that I assist to my first, to the first palenke,
Starting point is 00:56:41 after when I was mean it, it was to say, to say, to start,
Starting point is 00:56:48 to say, for what I'm saying, why? Hello, how you know,
Starting point is 00:56:53 why? And, to say that I had 18 years, if we were in
Starting point is 00:56:58 the palenques when I had 13. The first presentation that
Starting point is 00:57:01 that I, that I've my opportunity, for having me got a dormita, I'm in
Starting point is 00:57:07 back stage, no, I'm in the Palenke there's there's how is the stage of
Starting point is 00:57:14 the Palenke, so, so, so I'm sitting a side of, a lot of to Mario,
Starting point is 00:57:20 a lot of a lot of a voiceina, me and there, and there, the second day,
Starting point is 00:57:25 yeah, I, I, I, when I'm, I'm, I'm going, I'm,
Starting point is 00:57:30 there, contracts of that that, which, that that they'd pay them, but I not received anything. I was exploited laborally, with
Starting point is 00:57:38 work forcied and slavery and of all the other. Tristently is something that me costed much a job. I'm,
Starting point is 00:57:47 maybe my personality, my vulnerability, my essence, was very rapid, the grumy, something that
Starting point is 00:57:56 me avergonso during many years. did what they did what they're in the question
Starting point is 00:58:05 of all from the from the law the abuser, the grumin the
Starting point is 00:58:13 violation the violation and the work of facilitator of Gloria
Starting point is 00:58:21 no I can have no I can't have no power with
Starting point is 00:58:26 that Gloria me gave to the matadero Gloria was
Starting point is 00:58:30 facilitator Nobody, none of one of 13 years a little a little could have
Starting point is 00:58:38 been able to see in that man but but it is an defecio
Starting point is 00:58:43 he not he not did the courtejo in my case was glory no
Starting point is 00:58:51 she was a baby no I want to talk much much of
Starting point is 00:58:56 this but when was the first the first this to come
Starting point is 00:59:01 I went obviously led by Gloria to her recamara I went to go ahead and I metta
Starting point is 00:59:09 to be in myrugated I'm sorry askeated and I wanted to get
Starting point is 00:59:14 I'm going to get to you think you you're you're you're
Starting point is 00:59:18 you're Gloria gave to give me that was the best
Starting point is 00:59:24 opportunity in my life the better that I could pass. For this,
Starting point is 00:59:31 all Mochis effectively was enter. I was someone was a friender were my
Starting point is 00:59:37 friends, companions, to get me to get me to get to get the school, I'm
Starting point is 00:59:42 and I said, Gloria, all Mochis knows that you come, how you
Starting point is 00:59:47 go to get? Like a fracasada? Look how it the manipulation.
Starting point is 00:59:51 No, no, a a maester. A They're a They're saying, no,
Starting point is 00:59:58 Dice the Ancho. Imagine to say me that to say that my 13 years.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Well, apart of doing, that was of the things most dolorousous
Starting point is 01:00:09 to say to say to the mom, that's that because she's
Starting point is 01:00:12 because my mom, I was a day, maybe, two, until I had to
Starting point is 01:00:20 give to give to give you to give you Mary, you, your mama is
Starting point is 01:00:25 very latosa. Sergio is to Sergio, no want moms here, they're not you're going to
Starting point is 01:00:30 get to you're going to you're going to you know, talking about to a future of an artiste and well
Starting point is 01:00:37 and you do you say the mom and say the is that it is that it is incredible Javier
Starting point is 01:00:46 how our our fathers could could they'd they'd they'd
Starting point is 01:00:49 they're to just so public, that was Gloria, that was the artist of the moment, we're the
Starting point is 01:00:59 time of, the famous, they're in the way. The famous, they're in their own, they're using,
Starting point is 01:01:04 those are people, the people, no, for the people, for that people, for that they're paying for
Starting point is 01:01:10 them to be influencer. In that case, Gloria, was an influencer of many
Starting point is 01:01:15 chitas. What was the moment more pesado for you, Marlene, and you do I want to talk to say they've put a
Starting point is 01:01:23 name of the things. I know the difficult that is. What was the most difficult
Starting point is 01:01:28 that you have done? Tortura or as a or like a lotstation or Gloria or
Starting point is 01:01:34 who see? The most molesto of Sergio there were there were
Starting point is 01:01:43 the violence, was the was the manipulation. the tortura physical extreme that we've been
Starting point is 01:01:56 that a person still doubt but but passed Seriani passed do and thank God that any one
Starting point is 01:02:06 of us that's he kept on the community because there was the homicidio of the
Starting point is 01:02:11 situations that we were passing the those those not castigues tortures
Starting point is 01:02:19 were tortures It was, because not it was to it wastesing it.
Starting point is 01:02:24 It was a carcel mental and the fear of him to let us in the
Starting point is 01:02:32 the case, if you you'd be a better. And even
Starting point is 01:02:35 so Serey I, always I always I always and that
Starting point is 01:02:42 me and I had risk to the the the
Starting point is 01:02:46 in excess in excess that what they're they're when I see a
Starting point is 01:02:55 when I'm that I'm that I'm because they don't know because they they're because they're
Starting point is 01:03:01 because they're they in the case of Gloria in the case of Gloria
Starting point is 01:03:08 the the the the the fact of the I'm
Starting point is 01:03:16 more that we have been an offender for her to
Starting point is 01:03:21 to her that she, with the love that in the actuality, that she was able to let's
Starting point is 01:03:30 to make a to lose our our our adolescence, our youth and
Starting point is 01:03:37 our families, because this was a cause a collateral. Destroyed all.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Destrued all. I made create a world that not real and that was
Starting point is 01:03:49 that was that was the world. I was horrible of my family saying that they were
Starting point is 01:03:55 ignorantes that I had been 13 years with my family that was the
Starting point is 01:04:03 world that I would learn more with them than to go to do
Starting point is 01:04:08 to do a career a university a coerce apart
Starting point is 01:04:14 apart being and to put castig castigues. Gloria?
Starting point is 01:04:21 Yes. Javier, Gloria, Sergio, no, had done what he did so without Gloria
Starting point is 01:04:28 and Mary. Gloria had a authority, Tanta authority and that
Starting point is 01:04:37 devotion to his woman, to see a palenque and visualizing a little
Starting point is 01:04:45 no important. No important if was and was, nothing. It was to see her.
Starting point is 01:04:50 For what? To pay her the data, she had a mirrored with Mari, Marie, and Mary he had the sign Claudia Rosas or a other person of the staff.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And so it was. That the part of the castigues, the part of the tortures that she suggested, the,
Starting point is 01:05:15 the, to our cases, Javier, the to go to each one of our houses to
Starting point is 01:05:21 say to my mom that me going to keep to a woman that I'm
Starting point is 01:05:27 going to not going to not that I would be to be to do you know
Starting point is 01:05:32 that you know what it and Mary have an encant for that they
Starting point is 01:05:36 did what they got got a that a person a
Starting point is 01:05:41 person a decontable has a person has the power of that can't
Starting point is 01:05:46 that can't be that That's in the actuality, in the actuality, Javier,
Starting point is 01:05:56 the revictimization. That's she'll say she argumenting that the children of 13 years were the
Starting point is 01:06:04 prontas, the intercedas, the, that we got to coercianer to her and that we'd
Starting point is 01:06:10 we'd in the actuality envy and that we're some some mortars
Starting point is 01:06:19 of hungry, that we're going to programs to gain us to get a
Starting point is 01:06:23 money, and we're enviedied us. That's no name. It's a person who did much
Starting point is 01:06:31 damage, the three. And I want to say, and why then just they're, and why,
Starting point is 01:06:36 no, no, the depredator is the depredator number one. It's Sergio, but he's a
Starting point is 01:06:43 monster of three cabas. That's, that, without them two.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Parlen, you can't you're not so, you salting
Starting point is 01:06:54 a barandale to the department of insegird I remember that was a
Starting point is 01:07:00 three four pieces well, I was I'm I'm on the fourth
Starting point is 01:07:03 piece previous that many many I said I said I
Starting point is 01:07:08 said I'm really I was so much I'm saying no, no
Starting point is 01:07:13 I'm want to not I'm not I want to in the
Starting point is 01:07:17 actuality I've lived with 26 years of of peserillas of fugue. So, I know the actuality. So you're in the
Starting point is 01:07:27 actuality? That me fuged that I'm fugue to there. Your brain no, no. I mean, because it was
Starting point is 01:07:36 because it was something that that they were the people of the Holocaust with pan and marmelada.
Starting point is 01:07:44 It was so the And there, well, there there's all the tortures, of all the privations that we had,
Starting point is 01:07:51 sure that I had I was I'm sorry. I was with food. I was really amrient, but yeah
Starting point is 01:07:57 that's I've been years of my my dream of fugues if I'm you're in
Starting point is 01:08:04 Brazil, they're going to the interp from the FBI, of the policeia
Starting point is 01:08:08 and you you see a chance to start from a balcony
Starting point is 01:08:13 to how didn't I don't know. Yes. How was? Look, me, I'll tell you. Well, prior to that,
Starting point is 01:08:19 I'll say that me wanted to go. Me, he took three months in a calabos of situations terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible. You just,
Starting point is 01:08:28 just, just, no more visualized in a calaboso, like in the slavit, and now that was a slavitud modern. Well, it's a little time,
Starting point is 01:08:42 because it was the same in Brazil. It's a little time, and I kept alone in one of the departments of Brazil with one of the chicas. And I know that's, I know, that
Starting point is 01:08:54 came to a, a illumination, I mean, I know, I didn't want to be there since much time. And, no see, for what discue of them, I had my passport. Yeah, beencited.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Pisa's vencedas, all. And, and I arm of valor, no me I was out the
Starting point is 01:09:16 door because it was a great fear of that I'm that I'm going to
Starting point is 01:09:21 get a place of the door they're getting yeah, no, no,
Starting point is 01:09:25 no, that's so it's so it was my terror that was to
Starting point is 01:09:29 get to Mary so I if I had, or me I was
Starting point is 01:09:34 and I went and I really terribly badly you know you
Starting point is 01:09:38 I'm got to you know and I'm because because
Starting point is 01:09:42 because because because I knew that I was going to pass and because it
Starting point is 01:09:46 was a one of the people that was a very marked a gerarchy.
Starting point is 01:09:51 And I decided to get to get my passport my morralito was a
Starting point is 01:09:58 little my mom me had had had done of the
Starting point is 01:10:01 things that I conserve and I bring to the balcony
Starting point is 01:10:06 and I went and it was so I'm for the
Starting point is 01:10:11 terrace about so so then me open the door of
Starting point is 01:10:15 the balcony a Brazilian I remember that was a matrimon with a little and with the
Starting point is 01:10:23 littleer. And I say, is that I'm I'm I'm a little
Starting point is 01:10:28 I'm I'm I'm not want to be with him and I but I
Starting point is 01:10:34 had been really he's rareissimo because days before Carola has
Starting point is 01:10:37 escaped No, to the same place but I like always
Starting point is 01:10:43 was tortured and isolated for any it's because
Starting point is 01:10:48 it was a different for him always to have
Starting point is 01:10:53 problems and have to suggest how to make
Starting point is 01:10:58 a problem a sort a type and every
Starting point is 01:11:02 every every was at time he was so
Starting point is 01:11:05 it was a I was sitting all the day
Starting point is 01:11:09 to be doing I exercise all the day, apart
Starting point is 01:11:12 of not to come and to expect to to me pegs.
Starting point is 01:11:23 I'm going to the tinto, it and it began the spools,
Starting point is 01:11:28 and the cables. With cable? With with a
Starting point is 01:11:32 to all. With cables? Yes, with the cable,
Starting point is 01:11:36 those cables, it's with with it was, it was,
Starting point is 01:11:39 it was, it was, it was very dolorous of all but it was a
Starting point is 01:11:47 form of survive, you are you know, it was a form of survive, I was
Starting point is 01:11:53 something, was my supervvency was the hope to see to see my parents.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I never me I never I didn't be, you could be dead.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Could have been more, there were situations where me could have
Starting point is 01:12:10 been there, there And they're and they're a bit of the chicas more than
Starting point is 01:12:13 I'm I'm going to there's a not you know. You're not. It's capable and you can't
Starting point is 01:12:20 go to do you not, no, no, I'm going to be a brief, look,
Starting point is 01:12:25 me escape. Me they're going to the police to the people, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 01:12:29 we're going to deporting, and I, yeah, for that for that, the first that's a
Starting point is 01:12:36 telephone. Let's what I had to you? Yeah, 21, 21.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Oh, how, But, yes, Javier, but, but... Tantos years. Tantos years. But even, even, still, nothing,
Starting point is 01:12:50 nothing of evolution. Nothing of evolution mental. I was, I was, I'm subjected, maltrated. This, the quantity of years sequestered?
Starting point is 01:13:02 I'm of the last years I'm from, I'm from, I'm, the, of the most chiquitas and the
Starting point is 01:13:10 that more time it was I'm nine years I'm at finales of the
Starting point is 01:13:17 91 and I gave to the carcel to the finales of the 99.
Starting point is 01:13:26 So, you're deported or no? No, no they do you talk to
Starting point is 01:13:30 my papas, I say, I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:13:36 said that you had robbed the bolza, that needed to me
Starting point is 01:13:39 to we're talking October, principions of October, tal-beau, of the 99. My papas immediately me mandated me mandated
Starting point is 01:13:47 a flight of an that was Rio de Janeiro, Mexico, the city of Mexico the Mocis to my tierrita,
Starting point is 01:13:58 see? What is? That's, that I'm found. Sergio and the Klan? Yes,
Starting point is 01:14:06 I'm, I'm, they're, I'm, They're They're They're They're
Starting point is 01:14:12 They're They're A- Domino I said No I don't I don't
Starting point is 01:14:18 I'm I'm It's like It's I'm It's I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:14:22 I'm I'm And Mary He's He's He's He's
Starting point is 01:14:28 He's He's He He abuser He He abuser Yeah He
Starting point is 01:14:35 He He Maltrat He And I'd torture, because so was always. And me
Starting point is 01:14:46 my bulleto was open. He started, yeah, she said, because that was the time, but it was
Starting point is 01:14:55 that I was that I was that so I was saying, and my mom and said, I said, he's at
Starting point is 01:15:00 Interpol, is an order of penion against Sergio, Gloria and Marie,
Starting point is 01:15:04 is that's that's that's that was that had abandoned in Spain.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And I no, Mom, I know, I know nothing, no I know,
Starting point is 01:15:10 I know, I know, they're with the paranoia, but I just they're in the first of
Starting point is 01:15:15 since, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not to say, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:15:20 hear the period, I'm to be the TV, no. And me regressan, I'm
Starting point is 01:15:27 even a really, I'm trying to get my new to get to get to come
Starting point is 01:15:34 to come to be to be to be to be to be to be my
Starting point is 01:15:36 family. It's a preparation for that Karina came to Mexico, to teach her to mention her, to make more, after all of what we meantied. But of all what had to say,
Starting point is 01:15:50 all that that is, yeah, yeah, is that. And who could accompany her? Because Karina was
Starting point is 01:15:58 the minor to the age. Who could accompany her? Much of the children had in the the babies, various of
Starting point is 01:16:05 the chicas. And I So, I I can, but my intention was, escape. Escape me. Oh, God, no, no. If it was so, I, yeah, and apart,
Starting point is 01:16:20 not going to gast. I have my boletto, that my papas me bought. I, I can go, I can't. And I'm in Mexico with Karina. Me visualized. I'm very vista
Starting point is 01:16:33 Javier I was I'm going to all South America all the United to presentations
Starting point is 01:16:40 programs programs of television all the programs of Mexico and all the programs
Starting point is 01:16:48 of the United total total yeah so yeah yeah and there
Starting point is 01:16:53 you there there there there there there there
Starting point is 01:16:54 there I'm me detient me he I'm so
Starting point is 01:16:59 I'm I'm you just I'm I'm I'm to go and my way to go to
Starting point is 01:17:02 my way to get to me arrested I'm arrested I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry what is
Starting point is 01:17:10 and ohal the people get to there are many many psychologists many psychologists that when a victim
Starting point is 01:17:17 no about no matter I'm I'm going to say I don't say anything I didn't want to
Starting point is 01:17:24 not I'm going to do you want to not I'm going to say what I'm going to say but
Starting point is 01:17:29 only I'm just only me want hear. Samuel Del Villar, that in this time was the procurator of the city of Mexico, me met to his office and the first thing is, where
Starting point is 01:17:40 is Sergio, Gloria, and Maille? And I said that no said. Me said, I said, no I said, well, for not know, we're going to get to the car. To be. And so it was. Marlene, until here we're going to get in the
Starting point is 01:17:55 first part, that you're arresting. When we're going to now in the second part. I want to that we're going to what is going to
Starting point is 01:18:07 what will happen? Because you put your the piles to look to look justice.
Starting point is 01:18:12 No, no. No, I'm to stop. No, I'm going to do. Nobody will do.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Nobody will be to do. And you are to be, I think you,
Starting point is 01:18:23 two questions. You want to do you want to try Armando and Gloria? And if you're to demand you, apart of the
Starting point is 01:18:30 children, you're going to? I'll wait a little bit. Sure that, sir. Senorne, Calderon, is with us. Toma a little bit of water. This is very good. The people are very interested. For that if you have time, for you can't expect a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I'm going to receive a Luis Chateau, that is. I'm going to set here to my escritory because I have to go to Venezuela, to the theme of Venezuela, but also to Miami, and ladies, because there's a great friend and a
Starting point is 01:18:57 great communicator, Luis Chato. Luis, welcome. Luisito. To see me can't even we're here.
Starting point is 01:19:07 We're here. We're going to this camera, here. A bit of this time of Venezuela. What is going to go to Venezuela.
Starting point is 01:19:18 To be going if you connect them, for favor, with Luis. is there is there, Sir,
Starting point is 01:19:25 Louis, are one of the presentators more of the people who are in the moment of Chavez and Maduro
Starting point is 01:19:32 he went to Miami, he was much of his career in Venezuela. The people he said, and it
Starting point is 01:19:38 and it's more because it's more more from the diaspora where many many
Starting point is 01:19:43 people don't don't do from from Miami and and,
Starting point is 01:19:48 and, and, sirs, there, there there, there, influencers
Starting point is 01:19:52 that committed errors terrible with Venezuela that is to look like with
Starting point is 01:19:58 the people, we're going to be not going. I'm not there's there.
Starting point is 01:20:24 There are the influencers that are the people this the palaces was
Starting point is 01:20:29 in cuirado one was in cuirate there's there's this man really
Starting point is 01:20:37 that is impressive and and there was chicas that also that's
Starting point is 01:20:42 they were the buchona to see that this, look at this palaces for favor what do
Starting point is 01:20:50 with lentes sexy showing the help that's repartying Coca-Cola water
Starting point is 01:20:58 this is spantoso this is a this is an verguyenza this is incredible and the
Starting point is 01:21:06 and the fact we're shocked of such such a total the
Starting point is 01:21:09 locura doing a carousoncit I'm really Luis how you're
Starting point is 01:21:14 welcome hello hello hello Louis how you and a
Starting point is 01:21:23 little I'm a influencer that was a talk on TikTok
Starting point is 01:21:28 up the on the other is the other is encuerated I
Starting point is 01:21:34 no I'm don't see I'm not I'm not
Starting point is 01:21:37 we're not to see to be a me a louis a me no a louis louis me me you're saying first i'm sorry thank you so first you're very okay i'm very occupied and all the presentators venezolans no no yes yes i'm good perfect so much uh influence of venezolans and presentaer
Starting point is 01:21:58 are very occupied with his country and thanks for to take this time of being to me to you a tis much more thanks Luis, what is what is what is happening? Of the fact that is what is going to? Because it's in many things, it's that not yet the help,
Starting point is 01:22:18 that the rescatist, that the government, that God has done, I'd like you, that's been informed of what what's in his territory and that you'll explain to our audience, what really is passing in this moment
Starting point is 01:22:31 with the terremoto of Venezuela? Wow, that's a question very complex. Well, what's going to? What's going to? Well, that the natural
Starting point is 01:22:42 has got got to be this form in this opportunity under the dominion of a dictaura that has
Starting point is 01:22:48 imposed the anarchy that has been made on a lot in the necessity that we've been
Starting point is 01:22:55 to the people who have been with the and it has succeeded that the people
Starting point is 01:23:00 has made the government in fact in immediate a of the minute one in that ceasso the
Starting point is 01:23:06 termota. So, well, we're going we're going to difficulties immense,
Starting point is 01:23:12 the same necessity that has the people of the day. And if no, I'm
Starting point is 01:23:18 the quix the fifth day. Well, has generated a chaos discoordinated,
Starting point is 01:23:23 obviously, in the intent that we have all of so they're all the things that
Starting point is 01:23:28 all the things that we can think we can't that's that's a
Starting point is 01:23:32 coordinator that us say, look, no more water, we're sufficient water,
Starting point is 01:23:37 no matter more, we're in the deposit new, we're going to be in a second,
Starting point is 01:23:41 so, no there's and this, and this is, and this, it's a way, the logistics,
Starting point is 01:23:48 to be to be to be to be in back, or the doctors of the
Starting point is 01:23:55 , many of many of people of people people who want,
Starting point is 01:24:00 you know, you're that's what's what is what what is what going to
Starting point is 01:24:03 what is So, how many, there, well, what there is a conciencia immense of that the time is boron, that's about the time,
Starting point is 01:24:13 to be able to get people in the priority in this instant. And, and so they're doing a lot of efforts.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Now, it's a person who's people who are seeing the people who are the people, removing a society and moving,
Starting point is 01:24:30 and getting, in motor, organized in the place, in the form that you can. It's a
Starting point is 01:24:37 very comovable and has been very stimulating to see, lamentablely, and this problem, how has put
Starting point is 01:24:45 in the society in the outside of the country, because the people are the
Starting point is 01:24:49 angustia the angusia the we're not we're going to be there to be able to and not
Starting point is 01:24:54 we're not we're doing. And for other part, fiatte, the tragedy that's
Starting point is 01:24:58 the city in the building in Surfside, the and in a country with
Starting point is 01:25:04 and with contingency and with protocols, how instantarily the authorities, was a cordonarrow of that way, and there no
Starting point is 01:25:10 there was nobody that was able to make a cordon in a country developed like this, because there's because there's, there's a authority
Starting point is 01:25:17 respected, and then there's a other plans that one no manage, that they're not not-storbable.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Now, in the Venezuela, lamentable of the last the last few years, the people also
Starting point is 01:25:29 it's the forces military and governors, was, they've specialized in the last few
Starting point is 01:25:35 years, in the other than to the people, in gulper, and massacar to the
Starting point is 01:25:39 Venezuelans. So, this also has led to not create in any, in a
Starting point is 01:25:44 other in their good faith could be put to be in practice. Louis, what is
Starting point is 01:25:50 certain of these cases that supposedly Chavez had made of,
Starting point is 01:25:54 I don't say, gomas pluma, we we say we we're
Starting point is 01:25:58 in Argentina. of carton, practically, ULE, is puma, and, well, and the inefficiency
Starting point is 01:26:06 that was always, this form to look to this socialism that's, there's Chavez presenting the properties. How,
Starting point is 01:26:14 there's a certain that you, you know, you've got to to go to get to Venezuela, how, how is culpable
Starting point is 01:26:20 this, this propaganda that are these dictators to, for, to trap those? Look, the corruption in
Starting point is 01:26:29 Venezuela, which is another thing that today, but it's to resaltar certainly passed by
Starting point is 01:26:35 there. The edifications made with materials of reputation, the money that's robbering things barata
Starting point is 01:26:43 in the place of the boyichiko that you knows you knowosomely well, the dinneral
Starting point is 01:26:51 that's perid, that I said today the people with the people who I said the
Starting point is 01:26:55 cipher yeah no And one, and one, and one pierred for complete the capacity to understand how much money has been
Starting point is 01:27:02 has been robbed in Venezuela and what he's been done with a piece of all that you. So, so,
Starting point is 01:27:07 it's made much propaganda political, it's made, it's a fact of this type of things, for not about
Starting point is 01:27:15 the importation of cars, that then they didn't have repuets and the example. Oh, the example of
Starting point is 01:27:21 the chavism, I hope that the world like the one of the people that never they'll repeat
Starting point is 01:27:26 as one of the grand tragedies originated originate within the proper miseries of the human
Starting point is 01:27:31 exploiting the problem the proper human in the future so we see that
Starting point is 01:27:38 we're making the complex Hugo Chavez or whatever thing that I know the
Starting point is 01:27:41 of the malandro vyingn to and we understand to the immense
Starting point is 01:27:48 population Venezolana the the few sympathisants of the project for
Starting point is 01:27:53 to put to put a that he had to chavism moving a piece to a piece of
Starting point is 01:27:57 to make a other to make a piece to make a piece of to help a child to get a
Starting point is 01:28:04 man, Javier, in the that the grand signalado is the chavism
Starting point is 01:28:09 in this instant for the way to the way to get to to get to another
Starting point is 01:28:17 way to another way and for what we are convinced that this was a modern of the
Starting point is 01:28:21 last 27 years well for to say what we do we do we have when we're
Starting point is 01:28:26 when when we're in Cuba or there's the the anger in the anger has to
Starting point is 01:28:35 come and it is it's about that they are that they're that some people think and if
Starting point is 01:28:41 me I'm I'm agarro a $6,000 $7,000 it's something is something
Starting point is 01:28:48 what we have been of the human aplastated for a government. Yes,
Starting point is 01:28:55 no, no, no, not fall are so about the people who can't
Starting point is 01:28:59 imagine. Now, I'm still the people, we're inunded to images, Javier,
Starting point is 01:29:05 we're, that's, but so, we're we're overpassed of the things,
Starting point is 01:29:09 we're like you, you, and that we're the whole, we're not I
Starting point is 01:29:14 don't know, I'm on the panel, but as a person, and as the subject
Starting point is 01:29:20 that's many, in the times, I'm going to pay prudency with whatever thing that gets to get to
Starting point is 01:29:24 the number of there's cases in all the people disrassated of militaries or of
Starting point is 01:29:32 what he's that they're confiscating camions with food and then present those as forces
Starting point is 01:29:40 of their government for gain vote or indulgency there will be a one
Starting point is 01:29:45 a pair of a brother and make a business with something
Starting point is 01:29:48 that is lamentable and reprochable for of the necessarily presentable to the justice.
Starting point is 01:29:55 But more the more than the people can imagine and that are very factible in the Venezuela that we've got U.S.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Chavez, Nicholas Maduro, and now Desi Rodriguez, his brother, and God, also, I'm,
Starting point is 01:30:06 I'm going to be able to be a very prudent with all the things that bean and they're
Starting point is 01:30:10 in a sort of curators of information, because all we're replicating and all what we get and it
Starting point is 01:30:17 has been fear, a bit of a little to do a life and present to
Starting point is 01:30:22 things that I'm much respect for what really is going to definitely
Starting point is 01:30:27 the people who has died and nobody will be but
Starting point is 01:30:32 I saw I could be not not in
Starting point is 01:30:36 in bulfs in bals in maris in the car
Starting point is 01:30:42 in the reality that Venezuela no no no and
Starting point is 01:30:48 And we, that we're in the effort for, for, to come and for convocer from all our spaces,
Starting point is 01:30:55 to the people don't what necessarily need to donate, the type of material of remotion of or ascombers
Starting point is 01:31:01 or how it has been costed much Javier, to this hour, is solicit that send
Starting point is 01:31:06 in bolsa for the carberes, that is something so doloros to do that that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:31:13 that's, that's, too, so, I don't have been able to comment
Starting point is 01:31:18 here, not solicit not solicit the bols, but knowing that they are in
Starting point is 01:31:23 medsame the the problem that's that they're that we're talking,
Starting point is 01:31:29 of a country that was a country that he had and it and it still
Starting point is 01:31:34 and it and it still and you and you know we know we're
Starting point is 01:31:38 perfectly where the money the the quantity of
Starting point is 01:31:43 in Miami I saw in Miami these that they'd that's an iPad of gold
Starting point is 01:31:49 of 8,000 dollars in the Mold Adventure of Miami lapiseras of
Starting point is 01:31:55 cars that not need not and tases all the and the money
Starting point is 01:32:02 was in the empire American no even was in the countries
Starting point is 01:32:06 allied because not they were to be to Iraq or Iran
Starting point is 01:32:08 or or what so they're to they they're
Starting point is 01:32:12 so you know you you went to you went to you went to the i'm going to go to the country has 10 years yeah i've worked during the day of today
Starting point is 01:32:24 of today well it's around in radio television and me i'm because my sposa the truth me me me took for the quay you me me he's got because yeah no i've got space of free expression for to do my job and my
Starting point is 01:32:39 last long years in in the radio the television for i'm dedki a through the humor political to accompany the cause of the of the Venezuelanus in right because because it's been for me important to understand that we need we need spaces to all. I mean, the important is important.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Now the abusers, the corruptors, the appropriators, the authoritarians, those who did, the little parcels of the micro-dictators in their communities. are part of the cancer. So,
Starting point is 01:33:15 we're part of the cancer. So we don't have space professional for me. And, well, thanks to God, we're going to be two children,
Starting point is 01:33:24 and one of my three-olds, and a young in Miami, has 10 years. How should feel Maria Corina-Machado not be there?
Starting point is 01:33:33 In the place of the... Sure. So, it's essentially impotent. And, and, more, he has to be
Starting point is 01:33:40 attending any kind of any time and realizing all the contacts necessary for not only only
Starting point is 01:33:46 to be Javier, that is a labor titanic in the middle of the public that that's
Starting point is 01:33:51 that it doesn't reverse, to be able to do a plan that has a commitment.
Starting point is 01:33:59 See, that's like, to be it in Venezuela, in the middle in the middle of
Starting point is 01:34:01 this situation where all the people is active moving to
Starting point is 01:34:07 function to something in function of a strategy and a plan. Cosa, Mara Corino is a woman immensely intelligent that doesn't
Starting point is 01:34:15 a single second of his life without, so I'm trying to give her I think she'll give her in the next
Starting point is 01:34:23 hours. In serious? I'm sure. We're saying a exclusive here. An exclusive of nothing.
Starting point is 01:34:32 A exclusive of my intuition. Luis, no, no, I saw Fernando Carrillo remangandoes
Starting point is 01:34:38 to his people of his Venezuela that's perfect that he he'd curious, right?
Starting point is 01:34:44 No, no to know, no he's in New Manila,
Starting point is 01:34:48 and I'm seen any of the subjects that's that the story,
Starting point is 01:34:53 no, no, we've seen even we haven't seen to be
Starting point is 01:34:58 to Taregulian Saab and to and a other people that
Starting point is 01:35:00 he's that's that's a that's a serious, is impressive,
Starting point is 01:35:06 so his absence is even more present than to see a video
Starting point is 01:35:11 of them patting a rock, so then. So, wow, what, that's a
Starting point is 01:35:15 great moment to to know who's how you did you to get to get to
Starting point is 01:35:20 get to get to with your family and more reinvent in Miami, that's
Starting point is 01:35:26 not easy, Louis, you have a platform now very powerful, but cost it
Starting point is 01:35:30 costed much to do, how you did you when all the
Starting point is 01:35:34 artists to do you were in between one and two
Starting point is 01:35:38 million, Luis Miguel, two million and a million, Pablo Montero, a million, Alejano Fernando, a million of dollars. Dolar's, I'm talking. How you sent you? Well, look, I, I always have put,
Starting point is 01:35:51 first of nothing, to the Venezuelans for the last, Javier, and especially to the Venezuelans who are in Venezuela, and to the difficult that has to result
Starting point is 01:35:59 for the Venezuelans in Venezuela to have a life, pretend a life for his children, you know, like the movie is bella,
Starting point is 01:36:05 the Robert Beignini, you, Or, without when will be to do create a new people
Starting point is 01:36:10 into the misery of the disillusions, deceptions, of a mother of family,
Starting point is 01:36:16 a mother of a young, the the the felicity of the you could
Starting point is 01:36:22 have had been to have a play, or how I never never
Starting point is 01:36:26 in favor to negar a hour of of entertainment
Starting point is 01:36:31 to nobody. Now, now, when we we focus from the
Starting point is 01:36:34 point of the artist that also respect to everyone what he wants to
Starting point is 01:36:39 and that in front and the consequences of their decisions I don't do it, I don't do it,
Starting point is 01:36:45 he'd be going to have a concert in Bogotan, could have to have a concert to do the more
Starting point is 01:36:50 to the front of Venezuela and the that I want to be to be a but one
Starting point is 01:36:55 once taken the decision, well, then so only can possibly I can't
Starting point is 01:36:58 pass me to other side, and I want to be to see in tranquillity for your house.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Every one with your conscience, Javier. I know, the same, Luis, what we're
Starting point is 01:37:13 to do? The fact we're living a moment very difficult, it's incredible to see how the
Starting point is 01:37:21 people are indignated. I see much, much, many, many, many,
Starting point is 01:37:24 Venezuelan in the reds, indignated, more than distroated, they're
Starting point is 01:37:28 indignated. They're much, much, odio to what they they've been
Starting point is 01:37:32 done because it's horrible. There There are rescatting there are
Starting point is 01:37:37 countries that are putting their money to Venezuela like the topos of Mexico
Starting point is 01:37:42 and ohhal nothing that the cordura uh help to this
Starting point is 01:37:49 administration rara to partida to help in this people
Starting point is 01:37:55 I I'm I'm I'm having to talk to talk to
Starting point is 01:38:00 give a president Trump in my in Instagram where
Starting point is 01:38:03 I I'm going to be for the more of God that's going to be to say Rodriguez, like a
Starting point is 01:38:07 woman fantastic that's doing things fantastic, more than that that's a nomenclature diplomatic
Starting point is 01:38:13 that they understand the people, those messages are getting to all, especially to those
Starting point is 01:38:18 we don't especially to understand, and that for the love of God, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:38:22 make that because if in a way for the people were to the President Trump
Starting point is 01:38:31 to say that we're saying that and receiving a quantity of money for the rents petroleras, things that still not we've seen
Starting point is 01:38:38 the color to the pastel, right? Well, even more a lot of this tragedy, to hear you
Starting point is 01:38:44 to hear of the excellent relation with the dictator Venezuelan, that at this hour, a this hour are getting a hand
Starting point is 01:38:50 a man so, of the table, inexplicably because even because even their own
Starting point is 01:38:55 people, the few that they were doing the consequences of these two 27 years,
Starting point is 01:39:01 and trying to rescat their amissed to his families and their way. That's great. Louis Chatein, thanks for
Starting point is 01:39:08 being with me. Abracal. Abracu, a little. Venezuela and you want to get much. And,
Starting point is 01:39:13 and that's what a day can't because that is what we want to be and they want the
Starting point is 01:39:20 and they're to be exiledos. Abrose a great, and for always to be a lot of thank you
Starting point is 01:39:26 thank you thank you Mr. Chathen, Mr. President. I'm Marlenka
Starting point is 01:39:31 you're preparing for a second part of Ferte and I'm going to receive a friend that I was totally Kebrada, destroyed, that I know
Starting point is 01:39:39 perfectly that A Venezuela more than Gabby Spanick, welcome. Hello. Hello. Hello.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Hello. Well, here, talking with Luis my life, I, I've heard of the
Starting point is 01:39:56 interviewista. Gabi, so you did you totally destroyed, that's a bit better
Starting point is 01:40:04 we're just the same day that's with the eyes that you're that's they're
Starting point is 01:40:11 to your car what is what you're living Gabby what is what is perceiving
Starting point is 01:40:19 to five days of inefficiencies of rescatists that can rescat and all
Starting point is 01:40:24 what you have that you can't you're like you're but I don't see
Starting point is 01:40:30 me You hear, you I'm I'm sure I'm I'm okay, the
Starting point is 01:40:35 day of the okay, I'm a a lot of that was the that was the way to find the word
Starting point is 01:41:03 of God in the middle of the time of my life. And then
Starting point is 01:41:08 a month, a month and a minute, I said, I'm I see many tsunamis,
Starting point is 01:41:14 I see many, I know if it's in Mexico or it in Venezuela but I
Starting point is 01:41:19 was going to I was very very bad. And then in that moment when I
Starting point is 01:41:25 when I that the terremoto that happened had had a dream
Starting point is 01:41:30 three days before this, that I was in front of a mar and I
Starting point is 01:41:37 saw a pergamino dorado with the dorado and I was after after that
Starting point is 01:41:42 I was and I said a miracle, miracle, and I was a little
Starting point is 01:41:48 I'm a name because me had done you know, I'm he gave
Starting point is 01:41:51 a dayio blank. So, I didn't know I was
Starting point is 01:41:55 all the honor and the glory was for my the sir, but I
Starting point is 01:41:59 don't know how decifed this dream. So when occurred these
Starting point is 01:42:04 terremoto and this this ism that was in Japan, in Italy, Indonesia, Philippines,
Starting point is 01:42:10 in New Guinea, in the United, California, Kauai. So I saw in
Starting point is 01:42:15 my dream many things, and when decifed this day that
Starting point is 01:42:20 day that I was so much is Venezuel because Venezuela and all the
Starting point is 01:42:27 Venezuelans center and out of we're in this moment and I
Starting point is 01:42:31 see to see the disgrace and I think the desperation and the impotency
Starting point is 01:42:36 of that Venezuela not is prepared I think in any country but I
Starting point is 01:42:41 don't the insum of rescatists of the the
Starting point is 01:42:46 machinaria pesada of the people because were many
Starting point is 01:42:52 many there were many all this that have
Starting point is 01:42:56 passed yeah almost five days. It has occurred many
Starting point is 01:43:01 miracles, tantos that now I can do this dream
Starting point is 01:43:05 because when I saw this image of a pergam with letters toradas
Starting point is 01:43:12 for me are the promises because when I see the pergamino I
Starting point is 01:43:16 had made that I said a miracle and we have
Starting point is 01:43:18 seen these children saved and gloros a woman
Starting point is 01:43:24 gave a light in the disaster natural is
Starting point is 01:43:28 impressive that this this this this this this
Starting point is 01:43:35 is today they're three three people with the in the encro
Starting point is 01:43:42 and so those are things that only God know this
Starting point is 01:43:49 this this is this has no this could have an
Starting point is 01:43:53 explanation scientific because constantly the placas tectomical are still moving of the world. But these miracles that are happening
Starting point is 01:44:03 in Venezuela is, because I don't want to be a disperance, and of the need, I want to
Starting point is 01:44:10 talk about the faith, of the hope, because God is a manifestando in Venezuela
Starting point is 01:44:15 in a way impressionant. And then when I see these these miracles, and the people,
Starting point is 01:44:23 it's, it's, it's, is going to Gaffee. So I was being to
Starting point is 01:44:27 God. Because Venezuela has many years. We're a
Starting point is 01:44:30 country they're in the Dubai of Latin America. Much people were
Starting point is 01:44:35 to do a business in Venezuela. A country rich in a country rich,
Starting point is 01:44:39 in Paisackes, a country rich, in all the industry, the
Starting point is 01:44:44 spectacle. The industry, the spectacle in all the all the all the
Starting point is 01:44:48 so I think I don't want to let me put to me he's adivina. And so
Starting point is 01:44:57 I, I, I see a year that I'm doing the word of God, and I, and I said, I'm going to governation, I was going to go to be a bit more a bastard, no, a kidder on a big, and so did it, and so
Starting point is 01:45:11 it's soo-and-you- when they're making this Mr. Maduro. So, have succeeded, these have been, and have been made reality, at some, it's been a lot of timor. A I mean,
Starting point is 01:45:22 me, I'm a really a minute to be in a moment very difficult
Starting point is 01:45:26 but I, you, my hope I want, I want to this
Starting point is 01:45:29 message is to give to give to this faith that we
Starting point is 01:45:34 does, that that's that that because that night that
Starting point is 01:45:40 I was that I said the Lord, what we said, what was
Starting point is 01:45:45 that was that was that was that that was had been persecution, sake
Starting point is 01:45:50 or miscences, and defamations, ambr, necessities, uh, especially the people of
Starting point is 01:45:58 Venezuelan, and what we are that we're in the impotency of not, or from the fear of to go to
Starting point is 01:46:06 because there are many, people who have meted and so I said, in the middle of these
Starting point is 01:46:15 terremotos, that in the time, in moments extraordinary in the resurrection of Jesus, in the crucifixion of Jesus,
Starting point is 01:46:24 when Pablo and Silas were in the carse and they started to give to tell to God, and then
Starting point is 01:46:31 they were the cronied as the can't and they were desbocated, and so I want,
Starting point is 01:46:37 I want, and with the whole the heart in the mind, this, is that it's
Starting point is 01:46:44 an attack spiritual, because the spiritual is an attack spiritual that has taken
Starting point is 01:46:49 Venezuela during many of the governor is also maldico israel. There's much, there's much, there's immundice in Venezuela in the sense spiritual, paleros,
Starting point is 01:47:00 vales, this, people that does things very fias. Then, then the mountain of, desortes, they're in statues
Starting point is 01:47:09 to Maria Lianza. There are many things that have been Venezuela, that I don't want to use the fault of that people, but it's important to,
Starting point is 01:47:17 at the level spiritual, impia, and to give the God that that's a chance because
Starting point is 01:47:23 they're occurring miracles and then so God is God is a manned
Starting point is 01:47:29 and I see Najibukele that has made a a country a
Starting point is 01:47:34 country and he is Christian he he he's he made to do these
Starting point is 01:47:39 statues to to let me and they're he he was
Starting point is 01:47:43 he put a car in his nation so
Starting point is 01:47:47 the Bible says that a nation that accepts God, well, eventurados, that they have a nation whose chiefsia Jehovah will be blessed. And, well, that's in my think.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Still, the Venezuelan no, still, you're going to because there are many people who've had their families, a, a, a, a,
Starting point is 01:48:08 edificio that they're called. But in the middle of this, there's a, of, the, of, the, the,
Starting point is 01:48:14 of the, the, the, vivia in the scombros it's impressioning because God
Starting point is 01:48:20 we're calling to ram in the water of the word of God so it's
Starting point is 01:48:27 the most the most we can't have to the unachances of the maligno
Starting point is 01:48:32 and when I've been of these things and then they're and then
Starting point is 01:48:37 then it's then they are extraordinarily and impressive there
Starting point is 01:48:42 has a renace for Venezuela certainly the Venezuel is going to be with his
Starting point is 01:48:47 own own those eyes the recompensate of the impetus. Venezuela will go to start and he was a re-nacere
Starting point is 01:48:56 because when I created a miracle and miracle and me and I had this diaries a black
Starting point is 01:49:01 is the Venezuel not will have the opportunity to write to write to give a
Starting point is 01:49:06 new pages of the history. There was an re-nacern impressive
Starting point is 01:49:09 for Venezuela will be the ventana of all in the nations
Starting point is 01:49:13 Venezuela will to be that that country full of the people,
Starting point is 01:49:18 that's a place, that's a country, that will go to the
Starting point is 01:49:22 out of the scombros, that that characterizes the Venezuelan to get a
Starting point is 01:49:27 down to because the Venezuelan also also I'm really the attention, and we've
Starting point is 01:49:35 made a God, and we've got the bnition to our our benisional, and
Starting point is 01:49:38 our bnizuel and are bennsual and our our compatriot to our
Starting point is 01:49:44 our Venezuelans. If you put in, there's a bit of an abivament and all all are going to the call to God, to ador
Starting point is 01:49:51 to God. That good, that mirab, Gabi, that you have, I like that's more repuester than
Starting point is 01:49:57 what you're your your mother is a little bit the end of the time, it's for the
Starting point is 01:50:02 people of Venezuela. What you can say, no, because it because it was very
Starting point is 01:50:06 because it very much the all the rescatists of the Mexico, of Salvador,
Starting point is 01:50:13 of Colombia, of the Republic Dominican, of Panama, Spain, Switzerland, France, France,
Starting point is 01:50:17 and America, Italy, countries back, of the United, India, Ecuador,
Starting point is 01:50:20 then they're that's helping to our my manna also I'm affected,
Starting point is 01:50:27 like all the Venezuelans also, also, also, don't know for our
Starting point is 01:50:29 people, there's that is the minority, that one knows, that what we don't know
Starting point is 01:50:36 we're we're not nothing, I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:50:40 I think the true altruism not said because I don't know to say it and then the philanthropy
Starting point is 01:50:47 correct. Correct. So, it's a help in secret. Because I don't me
Starting point is 01:50:51 like to say I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a little multi-millioner
Starting point is 01:50:54 because this, the real help in what I'm in orations in in,
Starting point is 01:51:01 in, in, in, present my messages, for that these messages to make
Starting point is 01:51:06 to more parts. And, and Daniel has been very very preoccupated
Starting point is 01:51:11 for your country and then I tell I think to say I think I'm free
Starting point is 01:51:18 I think and I'm very of this disaster Venezuela is that to have to
Starting point is 01:51:22 have to it's difficult manage in the media we're we're we're
Starting point is 01:51:28 we're talking with the things that one can do you do have been
Starting point is 01:51:34 pretty and also you're saying that the things prefer to
Starting point is 01:51:37 do it private. Criticered much Alicia Machado, that was in a concert at a night in Miami, and it would be like now not they're not never postear nothing, or how do you guys that, as a famous, Venezuelan
Starting point is 01:51:51 with that, with that not quite, because really they're caught very on super, how she can go to a concert standing Venezuela, so? Look, my love,
Starting point is 01:52:05 every who has the responsibility of his act. That God may be
Starting point is 01:52:11 to the signora, I'm talking for me, for my country and for
Starting point is 01:52:14 Venezuela. I did a night a night an night of one and a hour and
Starting point is 01:52:22 there are like many people and there's a life almost 400,000
Starting point is 01:52:28 and I've received many many words bonitats and of
Starting point is 01:52:32 the people and many people are that's for your power of your
Starting point is 01:52:35 faith and thank for giving for there some there
Starting point is 01:52:41 some kind of spiritual and help to our men
Starting point is 01:52:44 of men and so I'm a woman very
Starting point is 01:52:48 genuine I have seen I'm that night I'm because
Starting point is 01:52:54 I am I am I am a passport,
Starting point is 01:53:00 never I've never never that's a Venezuelan and and
Starting point is 01:53:05 well, in all parts of the world where I go and I'm
Starting point is 01:53:08 so Venezuela received and many parts the world after the
Starting point is 01:53:15 world to the world to many barcos that were in the
Starting point is 01:53:22 immigrants no immigrants in a country of my name
Starting point is 01:53:26 is Spanick I have a Croata and, well, I'm used to I'm used to work to see, the Venezuelan
Starting point is 01:53:35 is very hard and what I do you can say, I do what I have to my can't say, I'm much in my attention, this, all what I've been spontaneous,
Starting point is 01:53:45 genuine, and not because she actress, no, because I'm also me, me, I don't, me, I don't the
Starting point is 01:53:54 heart to my country, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a little I'm a little I'm a daughter, I'm
Starting point is 01:53:59 a child, I'm a lot of what's going to in Venezuela but I feel that in the middle of all this has been a
Starting point is 01:54:09 renacal very important for Venezuela that will be a question, and it's going to say
Starting point is 01:54:16 all the of this correct right. Correct. Detrace of what there has
Starting point is 01:54:23 that has done to do this love. Gabi, I want much. Thank you. today in this program.
Starting point is 01:54:28 I'm going to be good that you're going to because it's not the time. It's all the that's the They say that's for getting or not, me
Starting point is 01:54:59 they'll be to send to putt to tell you, because I'm going to like a little arugated here, like that's, it's a inching here, if you're doing, you know, to find out of the
Starting point is 01:55:12 face, very, a face of bocha. But I'm that I, I made a this girl this and she's
Starting point is 01:55:19 and she, she can't, and the, because the specials, but the, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:55:24 what they're saying yeah? Look, they're That's Yeah, that if is it
Starting point is 01:55:28 is a It's a It's a little to get to get to the other You don't
Starting point is 01:55:41 me did you to get to get to that to be a no no no no
Starting point is 01:55:44 No no I'm to have a minute because I have to me have to
Starting point is 01:55:55 me have to be I'm I'm you know I'm you know because
Starting point is 01:56:00 you're that you're because you think you're that's another movie that's that's
Starting point is 01:56:04 that's pretty little you're you're you a Miss Universe or no
Starting point is 01:56:09 But, look, that woman, she's is still to find out of who's to be in who's
Starting point is 01:56:15 oh, my love, well, of Mark Anthony. Ha, ha, ha, he's
Starting point is 01:56:21 the Mark Anthony, I can't see. Yeah, that's the microphone to the
Starting point is 01:56:25 cat, well, that's that's sure, that's not, you know, because you know,
Starting point is 01:56:30 you know, you know, because you know, you know, they're, Nodal, not, he will present
Starting point is 01:56:36 now, well, me, me, to, me, I'm, about,
Starting point is 01:56:38 me, Dali and Casu, then we the bomb that Clara, Clara, Clara, Clara, that I'm to talk to
Starting point is 01:56:43 what you want, all that you want to be all that you want to be all right, Clara, Clara,
Starting point is 01:56:48 Mhka, I know, that I'm that Iverigue in the Galilea Mortijo. It'stou in the
Starting point is 01:56:54 world, yes, or no? Well, that's, it's too, it's too, I was,
Starting point is 01:57:00 it, I was more, I gave, I'll pay the the Uber, what I can tell me to say
Starting point is 01:57:05 to a thing, that she is saying that all the God my, well,
Starting point is 01:57:12 attention, because in minute the Cucarach us will say all what is what is
Starting point is 01:57:16 going to Casoo and Nodal. I want to say this is something. It's
Starting point is 01:57:22 is a program, what we bring us the four bombes finales are
Starting point is 01:57:27 goodism because what he got to have to what you have the
Starting point is 01:57:32 thing you have great very with the censura censura all erraldo of the periodist that he
Starting point is 01:57:39 did the article, the corona embollied. Serianitas, comparten, put like. Seniors, sirs, sirs, you're sitting there, Marlen, Calderon, for favor, Cucca, get here with us, we'll have,
Starting point is 01:57:53 let's have, a, ah, a, a saludit. I've got a saluditto of colleagues. Look, the colleagues me want, me want. We're going.
Starting point is 01:58:02 We're a saluditio. Thank you, Javier Seriani, today I want to say that I I'm going to I'm going to your new foro, of your new new season,
Starting point is 01:58:14 but portate well, you're very mortified, so I'm too a bit of course, so menace, see a good chico, look, in one of
Starting point is 01:58:23 that you even you even after you make you the best you're all. No, it's true, it's being
Starting point is 01:58:27 the showman that you're with the showman that and with a team of a team of a
Starting point is 01:58:32 tremendous, that no they're that they they don't you, they'll have been in nothing. You're up and an abrano.
Starting point is 01:58:40 An abrano of your friend Ines Moreno. Wow, wow, ladies, and, you also have been a lot, with her?
Starting point is 01:58:48 Yes, Ines, Maria Alvarado, chicas, thanks, in a real, colleagues good and professionals. Sure,
Starting point is 01:58:56 so, that, that, that are for many years that where the power, the influences, us have passed us and us just as many
Starting point is 01:59:15 just giving voice. And when, all my companions, when I have to go to the carcel, paying a fianza of $1,150,000, that was the only
Starting point is 01:59:30 that paid that fianza, all the children get to declare with with evidence menors of
Starting point is 01:59:41 with babies saying all very very fresh all I don't not about
Starting point is 01:59:48 I was I was sure but the verguenza me and how all that
Starting point is 01:59:54 was to the basura when there testimony and still the children
Starting point is 02:00:01 saying, of other two menors that existian, that was Sophia and Antonia, of the
Starting point is 02:00:09 abusos and the torturas that we saw in Sophia. I'm I'm
Starting point is 02:00:18 clear the judge Piner that, the judge Pineda
Starting point is 02:00:24 that he came to be the third judge in the process with
Starting point is 02:00:31 a partiality impression when he took the case with a partial about a
Starting point is 02:00:36 Gloria, Sergio and Mary until today because you know that we're
Starting point is 02:00:43 being the husband of the procurator being a man, a fan of a
Starting point is 02:00:48 delinquent psychopata pederasta of Sergio Andrade and with certain confidence
Starting point is 02:00:55 that has to have been with Gloria and Mary because he
Starting point is 02:01:00 atreviour, when it was the 21 of September of 2004, the liberation of Gloria and Mary, that not
Starting point is 02:01:12 were absolved, was for a fault of the process. It's something very different. Never
Starting point is 02:01:18 were innocents. It was a lot of evidence. It was it was a question. It was
Starting point is 02:01:26 my licensee when he saw the testimonials of the chick, she said,
Starting point is 02:01:30 for favor, Marlene, yeah about. All say the same.
Starting point is 02:01:35 All coincide in the same. And I with a very that
Starting point is 02:01:40 not I'm a partiality that's that's that that's
Starting point is 02:01:46 the man, the judge Pineda the day that we
Starting point is 02:01:50 we're to this yeah audience I went my ex ex-spos
Starting point is 02:01:56 in that was the father of my children and me
Starting point is 02:02:01 a person to the whole we have much harmony in the actuality
Starting point is 02:02:06 to have many years of many and that was in
Starting point is 02:02:11 the moment in the moment that I was during my desper
Starting point is 02:02:18 and my abod and was my abogado and Pined
Starting point is 02:02:25 me he asked that is if I said it was very, very maldito, Andrade,
Starting point is 02:02:33 I said, I'm like, well, I mean, and he said, and he said, all the cemental, the man,
Starting point is 02:02:42 asking me that a, in a victim, a victim, a, a victim, a, a victim, a, question.
Starting point is 02:02:48 And then that, and then, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,
Starting point is 02:02:53 he's, he, he's, he, was robust and he said, I'm
Starting point is 02:02:57 I'm imagine to you know I'm in the intimacy I'm the favor
Starting point is 02:03:00 saying I'm saying, you know, you're you're in the camera.
Starting point is 02:03:06 M. To say, a me I said that was the pipila for cargall
Starting point is 02:03:11 to him. So, those were some those were those comments misogenos
Starting point is 02:03:15 libidino so a pote ethical this all the
Starting point is 02:03:22 adjectives qualificative of someone that no merit and that was put
Starting point is 02:03:29 because it was the procurator of Chihuahua in this moment her husband
Starting point is 02:03:34 no he what I know now that I was a
Starting point is 02:03:41 testigo in the city of Michigan in Penguin Random House
Starting point is 02:03:47 for the book of my Carlita of the Cuest
Starting point is 02:03:50 that all that all the case that Mexico left in the
Starting point is 02:03:57 other and the more than us the survivors that we saw. I'm going
Starting point is 02:04:05 as I'm going of the only I was of the one of the case of
Starting point is 02:04:12 that's an partiality impressionant they're to do get to do something to
Starting point is 02:04:18 notificarm because now for saying the fact Javier I
Starting point is 02:04:23 I have demand of glory for say the truth for alas the voice because I
Starting point is 02:04:30 know I'm no me call you because I understand the magnitude
Starting point is 02:04:35 of the delitos of what they did with you I don't me
Starting point is 02:04:40 call more the call me I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 02:04:45 impone this for so serianitas I invite if you
Starting point is 02:04:49 you are you're you can't you can't We don't we can't give that
Starting point is 02:04:53 fortale to our depredators. Total, total. That good, that's good that's clear, that's people that's
Starting point is 02:05:00 being up much, the people are indignated with all this because still the judge has
Starting point is 02:05:07 has a relation with Gloria Trevi and with Armando Gomez, because the same
Starting point is 02:05:11 Bureau of Abogas that is a plastando to the children, is the same is the same.
Starting point is 02:05:19 It's the same. It's the same. I think I think they're So, they're
Starting point is 02:05:27 They're in socies Exactly. Now, Marlene, a boss to do you want to
Starting point is 02:05:32 do Armando Gomes, they came to do you a proposal?
Starting point is 02:05:36 Look, the ultimate the last the last that was in
Starting point is 02:05:42 May of 2004 where there were the Gendos
Starting point is 02:05:49 where you Liliana Reggeyro, yeah was the Cuisio in Los Angeles was Liliana Reggeiro and starting
Starting point is 02:05:56 with stafador of dreams and I was the only that I'm about for many reasons I've
Starting point is 02:06:03 the pernida of my H. I was in my duelo that well the duelo is no
Starting point is 02:06:12 is nothing lineal it's sub and back the emotions but well that was
Starting point is 02:06:18 recently and I what was and since many years, I mean,
Starting point is 02:06:21 I was, I was going to see a video that was at final of,
Starting point is 02:06:29 I'm at finales of the 21, that I saw, I said, no,
Starting point is 02:06:36 no, it's not, no, it's not can't be this. Because you're
Starting point is 02:06:39 from the horrorosa of the 2014. Yeah, the 2014. Gloria. I mean,
Starting point is 02:06:45 and the books, that many of us not even , we're we because
Starting point is 02:06:49 evadimed a reality it was a past like if I don't I'm not even
Starting point is 02:06:53 I'm not because the chicas were bad as simply it was some
Starting point is 02:06:57 those that I don't reviv but you have you have exactly
Starting point is 02:07:02 exactly because not process well because I thought my
Starting point is 02:07:06 desire my desire was my can't be a computer to let you
Starting point is 02:07:14 let me I'm said me the memory of all that
Starting point is 02:07:19 that I've all that that I and well I'm and it that these
Starting point is 02:07:30 people are part of their people I'm demand and legally
Starting point is 02:07:34 they're notified in a city where I know that's what is
Starting point is 02:07:39 with the people of the people of the people that are that have
Starting point is 02:07:44 created in us and And, well, then it starts to act
Starting point is 02:07:50 conformed a leg, a nivitoria, the which was not given. Very good. You know,
Starting point is 02:07:56 that we did we the news of the that they did the reason? Because what
Starting point is 02:08:02 they want no you? Why the the accuser for the Lilliana contra both,
Starting point is 02:08:07 against everyone? Because, because, Javier, because we want to ammedrant
Starting point is 02:08:12 what the past is that we don't 20-Qube-old of years. Now I'm a woman
Starting point is 02:08:19 almost and I'm going to the fifth piece. I'm a little for a
Starting point is 02:08:25 50 and God me presta life and and it's all the information that
Starting point is 02:08:30 I have now of what what happened. So, then they think that still
Starting point is 02:08:36 we're still there. The power is great of them, very great.
Starting point is 02:08:41 Dimmie how during all these years have made silence to the authorities,
Starting point is 02:08:48 soborna, what you want, how permit them that in the court can be in a way illicit to notificing where no correspond. Where the same
Starting point is 02:08:59 judge in that moment, in the Judgment in the Judgment 35 of the City of Mexico, me says, you're just here and it facilitated
Starting point is 02:09:07 my passport for that me notifiqued. I think that they're can't to get to get to get us on the question monetary,
Starting point is 02:09:16 because Gloria, if you have much money, in the question monetary, and where now we can't, and yet no we can, and I want to clarify one thing. We, we,
Starting point is 02:09:30 we're really, as, as much cases, in the case of Epstein, the victims, his abogado, if, me explained, no there was a
Starting point is 02:09:43 cobrough at the first, we have we have we have we're not
Starting point is 02:09:47 we're not we're all what they're doing no, no there's
Starting point is 02:09:53 no no. No we don't see we don't we don't
Starting point is 02:09:56 we have been that has been having many things recent
Starting point is 02:10:02 that not they're impacted but also I think
Starting point is 02:10:07 that are all all things now with an
Starting point is 02:10:10 Antonia. Contam that how you've lived you the declaration of
Starting point is 02:10:15 when you were when you did the of sophia's a true. The
Starting point is 02:10:23 the truth the reality of is a little that
Starting point is 02:10:27 was a that was submitted to a maltratos to
Starting point is 02:10:33 all indol abe avocations to a creature that
Starting point is 02:10:37 was not was that was not exterior. In the
Starting point is 02:10:43 case of Antonia, Anthony, was very bebitt, and even being so bevita,
Starting point is 02:10:48 with some ometimient to put a put on the citon on the cout
Starting point is 02:10:53 and to hang to have to be to have to keep to
Starting point is 02:10:59 not those, and when I go I go the
Starting point is 02:11:07 the carcel in Chihuahua and they're extradited they're in the 2004
Starting point is 02:11:16 that is Gloria and Mary Libres and Sergio he kept in the
Starting point is 02:11:20 carcel very very little a a a pisc of all
Starting point is 02:11:26 what it's a in a in a circus in the Circo
Starting point is 02:11:32 Tianic I see I see that I Sonia. I was with
Starting point is 02:11:38 my sonia, my son my son with my husband in that moment and I see a Sonia with the two my girls. I was I don't know
Starting point is 02:11:47 could create it. No, I could think that they were there, that were to see a to Sergio,
Starting point is 02:11:55 to the carcel. I always knew that Sonia was a victim and a
Starting point is 02:12:05 victim with the the the the the little to get to
Starting point is 02:12:14 his his his brother and the baron and the and the and the
Starting point is 02:12:22 abused those you think that's that's that's she was she
Starting point is 02:12:27 about of Sohia and of Sophia and Antonio of no
Starting point is 02:12:32 I don't I don't doubt of that no I don't doubt of that. And in that moment, it was
Starting point is 02:12:39 when Sonia had to pass the power of the property to put, like, to repair the damage of Karina, like the Fianza, and it was the house of
Starting point is 02:12:54 Sonia. What pat-an? What pat-an? What-pat-an? No, no, no, it's inconceivable. And I, I really want to
Starting point is 02:13:08 all the and I'm trying all the support, all the love for those creatures that,
Starting point is 02:13:15 that no knew that and that for the and that they're to have normalized
Starting point is 02:13:20 and to be to not not to be not dimension how they're to imagine
Starting point is 02:13:28 they're not they're notier in the clan we're with Marlen Calderon
Starting point is 02:13:33 here victim of Sergio Andrade, put it there for a favor for the people
Starting point is 02:13:38 are the people are doing and is doing this interview this interview unique because it's much that I wanted
Starting point is 02:13:44 to talk about to talk about to you Marl. It's impressive. And this Apparition
Starting point is 02:13:50 of Antonia, that I know very two times me I found in Spain, and Sophia
Starting point is 02:13:54 what he said Guadalupe that I've supported much too. Muchissimo. All
Starting point is 02:14:00 the chicas those chics them make that my life be better. valiant
Starting point is 02:14:06 and with a con a procession legal with a preparation of the people of the rights
Starting point is 02:14:15 human of psychologists psychoanalyst of specialists in this stress post-traumatic that we've
Starting point is 02:14:24 taken a situation terrible that I've lived with Sophia that this animal and
Starting point is 02:14:35 claring in that quarter in the house of the play in Sivuateneho in the
Starting point is 02:14:42 room of Gloria and of Sergio I'm they're always they were
Starting point is 02:14:48 together they were in the same roomia in the roomia in the
Starting point is 02:14:58 camita this this man for something because I always was
Starting point is 02:15:03 tortured, always was sequestered, always was isolated, because
Starting point is 02:15:10 me it was made for having said to have made to have been made
Starting point is 02:15:16 a look a expression I'm to call I'm I know what did
Starting point is 02:15:23 the poor Sophia nothing but but of all they
Starting point is 02:15:30 were they castigab a precious and me obliga Sergio to
Starting point is 02:15:36 peg her my obliga to give to sophia and I was I was
Starting point is 02:15:42 I'm very very so he he said pegle more if you
Starting point is 02:15:49 don't you know you go to I'm going to I'm double
Starting point is 02:15:54 and I'm definitely and apart't you I'm a parted
Starting point is 02:15:59 to be a world, yeah, horrible. To have to
Starting point is 02:16:08 get that little that's that was living that's that's a good,
Starting point is 02:16:14 Gloria present, inventing what more castigos for that one could
Starting point is 02:16:21 not not to be to be a person of all
Starting point is 02:16:29 what was a beautiful a a little a
Starting point is 02:16:33 morenita with some labios her cabo risado to this this this this
Starting point is 02:16:38 this this this manchete he cuted he he was a
Starting point is 02:16:40 little with a machete things inhuman but that that image
Starting point is 02:16:47 to to have to to get a sophia and that he
Starting point is 02:16:55 was very very very very so it was how to pick that
Starting point is 02:17:00 that how pegle you that little after that after that's being human
Starting point is 02:17:05 no man I don't have any human no one he was in the devil that I was to pay to
Starting point is 02:17:10 get to that he he said or he does it more more more
Starting point is 02:17:15 because I'm going to dophia doubly more more times and apart
Starting point is 02:17:21 you I'm to pay to you I'm think to I'm
Starting point is 02:17:24 to I'm to be to be back exactly exactly that
Starting point is 02:17:28 he's but he no he's he's not he to the
Starting point is 02:17:31 a little, I'll say something so that I think I think I don't know
Starting point is 02:17:36 in no I'm really a woman supermently strong. I've
Starting point is 02:17:44 lived the the the poor that was a
Starting point is 02:17:48 mother, I'm a very very very very very
Starting point is 02:17:53 and I know that my supervences was to want
Starting point is 02:17:57 the gold was it was a supervense and the infelis
Starting point is 02:18:02 desgracian me put an example me put an example of how I want about I'm
Starting point is 02:18:13 I'm relation to much the situation of the people that lived the holocaust
Starting point is 02:18:21 with what we've lived us the other the work only only
Starting point is 02:18:28 for can't us the poor food, the banning
Starting point is 02:18:34 with a manguer gross at the intemperia in Spain at 10
Starting point is 02:18:40 degrees, and that was that's us and Gloria attacked to the
Starting point is 02:18:47 risa. That was our bathroom. While they I had I
Starting point is 02:18:53 had I was so that they were that they were quite when they had
Starting point is 02:18:59 when they then. no there's no there's no way, Javier, no I'm not just I'm not just we're not just we're not
Starting point is 02:19:11 moments very marked moments that I I I quiss borrard I did but
Starting point is 02:19:20 for me I don't know I don't want no I don't want to know I'm not so if not it
Starting point is 02:19:28 doesn't it in a good plan no no no no no we're saying If you know, like that's
Starting point is 02:19:34 Guadalupe, to put them to the things. If not it's a non-san, atrata
Starting point is 02:19:41 part of people that we've been submitted, in those times, you know, but,
Starting point is 02:19:47 tristently still going to know, we've been all the days, now that we're going,
Starting point is 02:19:51 it's going to it's a God me, we, we, we need, we're going to
Starting point is 02:19:57 be a complice of someone that, of persons that perversas, that not
Starting point is 02:20:03 more more after 34 years that I have seen
Starting point is 02:20:08 and they have been and they am about. And I'm about
Starting point is 02:20:14 that Jesus Casorla. They have been they're not
Starting point is 02:20:20 they're not they're they and who are they're their
Starting point is 02:20:24 people who are they they're like as like
Starting point is 02:20:30 if us with some words that anti-sonant you've seen and a day we're going to
Starting point is 02:20:37 show what we're going to how they're how they're also, how they're to be being,
Starting point is 02:20:47 I'm a survivor, I've got cancer I'm a I've cancer in October in the year of
Starting point is 02:20:54 I'm sorry I've done three years that my child me tell me tell you that I'm sure that
Starting point is 02:20:58 I'm sure in the mama right unfortunately very a time, much a
Starting point is 02:21:06 time, I think this divine. But what is that you know, you know, it's not
Starting point is 02:21:10 that you're to be in a lot of legal. Yes, I'm going I'm going abogados
Starting point is 02:21:18 because it's going to be a window the year that's, and I don't
Starting point is 02:21:24 me call more, no me call you more. This is and not we're
Starting point is 02:21:29 we're we're I feel people that wants to to plastar and we want to keep submitting
Starting point is 02:21:35 because that is the perversity. A person perversa never want to see. Gloria
Starting point is 02:21:42 never no, we never let go out of she. She resurge what would
Starting point is 02:21:50 have been if she when resurge that one can because all we did we
Starting point is 02:21:56 did the benefit of the doubt that that he was with
Starting point is 02:22:00 Sergio, if really she had been a good person, if really she would have recognized
Starting point is 02:22:06 what happened, it was chikas. Because his career was in base to the
Starting point is 02:22:16 slavit of us. In base of clan. In movies. In
Starting point is 02:22:20 series. I participated in the movies, in the choros of the discos,
Starting point is 02:22:25 in the terrible calendaries, in in being how is emplaying
Starting point is 02:22:32 the calendars of her, working day and night, limping his
Starting point is 02:22:38 houses where she was, I'm to carry all your her in the
Starting point is 02:22:45 gyas. So, if she had been a person different, she had been
Starting point is 02:22:52 had had had been to us and and
Starting point is 02:22:53 and of heart to give us and repar some do you
Starting point is 02:23:01 do you do? What he's he's encargo to do you already I'm
Starting point is 02:23:07 going know what what they say in the movie a little a
Starting point is 02:23:11 scary and what that deton was the biose that we
Starting point is 02:23:16 don't we don't we nobody nobody didn't know
Starting point is 02:23:20 nobody to me cost almost the 20 years
Starting point is 02:23:24 in to say the name of Sergio Andrade. No, he could not he not he
Starting point is 02:23:29 not he not he did say Sergio Andrade no could be a image
Starting point is 02:23:35 of Gloria no could not not even not not to say in
Starting point is 02:23:40 some music and it's for envidiosa Gloria because
Starting point is 02:23:46 no I'm I don't I'm no I'm I
Starting point is 02:23:50 don't I it was I'm it with myusculas how
Starting point is 02:24:01 she not tolerable I was going to it was a pasto a
Starting point is 02:24:08 past so a so a life that I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 02:24:14 I'm to I'm to be to when I want to be
Starting point is 02:24:19 very I'm I'm I'm I to to have
Starting point is 02:24:23 to to procurururied to my tierrita, Los Moch and Sinaloa, to have to have the protection. Totally.
Starting point is 02:24:32 For all the attack of Jesus Casorla. But in the luch a legal, it's impressive that, that's all what you
Starting point is 02:24:37 have to have a lot of a luched legal. You're going to demand a Gloria Treve? Sure.
Starting point is 02:24:43 If it's necessary, yes, in all the questions laboralers, it's, so, what is
Starting point is 02:24:49 violation, when the So, so it's open the window, I've got to pass it to my son. More well
Starting point is 02:24:59 I'm with the process of my my son, my son my thing. What was?
Starting point is 02:25:06 My son was my son for you. My little to do the diagnosis
Starting point is 02:25:14 because it was a cancer unique, unique in someone in a person in a age.
Starting point is 02:25:20 15 years? My baby. It was a boy. It was a man. something
Starting point is 02:25:26 something I've talked, but I do a si a life how's how it
Starting point is 02:25:32 Orlando Orlando? Orlando. My Orlando I'm here always I'm always I'm
Starting point is 02:25:38 always the elephant and the elephant me he's a little his son
Starting point is 02:25:44 his brother he's always we're the one little is my animal.
Starting point is 02:25:50 Favorito. Orlando Enferma, to do with your diagnostics was complicated because not they had that someone
Starting point is 02:25:58 of the A of Orlando had a cancer that only present them the people of 60
Starting point is 02:26:04 years, 70 years and I only was only was an child you have
Starting point is 02:26:11 you. You have a father? My son, his progenitor is Sergio Andrade
Starting point is 02:26:15 and my his has been who me motivated to live.
Starting point is 02:26:24 It was, he got in a moment of a bad but
Starting point is 02:26:31 he's the he's the he's the he's the he's the he said he said
Starting point is 02:26:36 a he gave Orlando that were the were the people my
Starting point is 02:26:43 my I think the no no I'm I'm sure I'm
Starting point is 02:26:48 what I have done in my life Javier has been being
Starting point is 02:26:51 my mom and a good mom. You will say, because because were the best brothers here in the world.
Starting point is 02:26:59 Those the best men. What destiny? What destiny? What destiny? And me has talked and my
Starting point is 02:27:06 my son, my his Isaac, I have a child and an I know of the the sky. That when
Starting point is 02:27:13 God decide, I'm in the arms of those, and those, and I'm brusus
Starting point is 02:27:18 that I'm a mom very affortuna that my father to die in my
Starting point is 02:27:24 arms, to know where is my my him
Starting point is 02:27:28 to be not what we have we to see
Starting point is 02:27:33 in those moments of so the moments of
Starting point is 02:27:41 felicit moments of felic you he gave 10
Starting point is 02:27:44 years me I gave 15 a Acabidates of to
Starting point is 02:27:48 do the 16 to have done. 10 days
Starting point is 02:27:53 of his couple fall and he took Seriany
Starting point is 02:27:59 that has been the is something that I
Starting point is 02:28:04 have got to accept I know I know
Starting point is 02:28:08 I know but I'm always was so my
Starting point is 02:28:14 two children are very very very very that's the his son
Starting point is 02:28:19 his son his his son his he's the his my my
Starting point is 02:28:24 man he listen him listen me but that what he is model is model
Starting point is 02:28:29 is actors professional professional professionalist is this but but
Starting point is 02:28:37 extraordinary being human and is and he does do you
Starting point is 02:28:40 do my and he and he he's, because there's a moment Javier,
Starting point is 02:28:47 that Isaac, when me un- with the chikas, because if something I could that I don't want
Starting point is 02:28:55 that my kids, that my kids were exposed, me said, Mom, but is that
Starting point is 02:29:03 when you talked to me of that, I don't he, no could, Javier,
Starting point is 02:29:11 nor I myself could be to talk him. But now you know now
Starting point is 02:29:16 me and he he applauded when in these programs to his
Starting point is 02:29:21 mom valiant and me see that three four years
Starting point is 02:29:27 after I did my first video what I did
Starting point is 02:29:31 I always I got you I'm making a
Starting point is 02:29:35 song I'm I've I've I have I started
Starting point is 02:29:40 I'm with a little with my Uly boy. And And what is to help us us one's
Starting point is 02:29:46 to the others, Javier. So, what they're creating. It's something incredible, is a little.
Starting point is 02:29:53 Lilian, to be my, my, my, my, my, I'm, my, I'm,
Starting point is 02:29:58 I'm, I'm, always, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, but I'm,
Starting point is 02:30:03 so I'm not, you're still, you're not to get to the 50. Sure, we're,
Starting point is 02:30:07 we're very young. I'm, I'm, I'm, the fact, when, the word,
Starting point is 02:30:11 when, She was at the studio, I saw a energy. I go, this woman is the woman maravisia. So,
Starting point is 02:30:17 nobody can imagine. So, that's your son, Orlando. Orlando, when he was a man,
Starting point is 02:30:24 he was a very valid, because the duel most difficult is the of the of the person,
Starting point is 02:30:29 and he not were to be psychologists, no, psychologists. He said, what,
Starting point is 02:30:35 what, what I'm going to say, what he says, until he he said, The psychologist was a good
Starting point is 02:30:42 Rato with him, because Orlando he's said, and he said, and he says, you are the woman, Maraville, for Orlando. Wow. I'm the woman, maravilla, for my
Starting point is 02:30:56 children, and it's the best and what I feel more more I'm more than the life of having done a, oh, and what you what I did. What I did, when I when I did, when I, when I was to go, is the
Starting point is 02:31:09 this woman, marvellia. And I go, the energy of this woman. I'm feel
Starting point is 02:31:13 empowered. I'm to give voice to this case, with my friends,
Starting point is 02:31:23 the that we have on the camera, because many are,
Starting point is 02:31:28 but not there. There are many, there are. There are. There are many
Starting point is 02:31:34 are, but that are very respectable, and it's very respectable, but they're
Starting point is 02:31:37 going to talk. And you're going to be a testigo I'm going to be to be a testigo and now
Starting point is 02:31:43 with the window and now that's been we're doing I'm not I'm not so you're you're not
Starting point is 02:31:51 you're the case of this demand against Gloria Mary Bochita and Sergio Andrede as I'm
Starting point is 02:31:57 and you you're going a window the year you can't you you demand to you
Starting point is 02:32:03 to give you to let's make a question Marlen and I please for
Starting point is 02:32:07 favor, that you're very concrete with this. You suspect
Starting point is 02:32:12 you're maybe with a cordon lubilical direct or indirect we
Starting point is 02:32:18 know we're in the form still still. Gloria Trevi
Starting point is 02:32:23 and Sergio Andrade are together? Yes. I'm cost
Starting point is 02:32:32 a job to but but now I don't
Starting point is 02:32:35 a doubt. No me there's there's a when a Gloria
Starting point is 02:32:39 he asked Sabina Berman, the interview that took with Sabina
Starting point is 02:32:43 who did the movie 2014 that is what she means for
Starting point is 02:32:49 her for her and he and he he said that's a
Starting point is 02:32:52 man that's a man. Oh, I know, no
Starting point is 02:32:58 me there doesn't because still still with with the
Starting point is 02:33:05 with the same legend of the last 26 years of what we had to say. See? That all are some of an envisions,
Starting point is 02:33:17 that TV Asteca has the fault of all, all, like, like, if TV Asteca, me would have
Starting point is 02:33:22 violated, me would have had been to that organization for if TV Asteca, I would have slavised,
Starting point is 02:33:28 torturado. They're saying the same, they're saying the same. No, I don't
Starting point is 02:33:36 I think a because they're things that many of us and we
Starting point is 02:33:49 are and they're and they're that we can't in all the delinquents
Starting point is 02:33:57 all the organizations coercitivas. I think that are I get to
Starting point is 02:34:03 doubted Now, I think that's some people in the case of Armando and in the
Starting point is 02:34:10 case of Jesus Carzola. The pair of both. The two,
Starting point is 02:34:15 that are that they are that they're that I'm that I think, I've
Starting point is 02:34:20 cancer, I'm a woman I'm a woman that's a lot that I'm dedicated
Starting point is 02:34:28 to the doctors, when progressively could be starting to do exercise. And, well, I am I'm a person public that I'm in the reds all the days
Starting point is 02:34:38 and that I'm to transmit and to say the thank you. Because, a past of all what I've passed no, I don't
Starting point is 02:34:45 to thank you the years that my son, I don't know to thank you. To have the parents that
Starting point is 02:34:54 I have, the children that I have, the children, no, I'm sorry to thank you the
Starting point is 02:35:01 to start in a camita and have air air air air that me refresh
Starting point is 02:35:06 when it's a cold a cold, when it's all, I'm no, I
Starting point is 02:35:12 don't know to thank you and even so it happened what my son.
Starting point is 02:35:16 I think me got in a moment where Marlene was too because
Starting point is 02:35:22 the really I'm really I want to but I'm a Isaac and
Starting point is 02:35:27 I'm I'm living I'm to live and I am and this luch is a motivation I think we're
Starting point is 02:35:38 going to do you know with the case more more terrorific of the media of the spectacle with persons that
Starting point is 02:35:52 people that's encargarred during years of pisotearned to talk terrible of our fathers to just carl when our parents not us
Starting point is 02:36:00 not we're to be violated or to be used to be a part
Starting point is 02:36:06 Javier that for me to say and my mom that me had
Starting point is 02:36:11 been they've never not and with the petal of a
Starting point is 02:36:14 red me had never ever have made my
Starting point is 02:36:19 identity I start a plast that to get
Starting point is 02:36:26 to say to consider me a good for
Starting point is 02:36:29 nothing to not to be to sing because that that's me
Starting point is 02:36:31 had led to the life and that all this
Starting point is 02:36:36 has been this has been this the same with the health
Starting point is 02:36:40 and the and with the help and the peace with
Starting point is 02:36:45 my life retomando the question that if me
Starting point is 02:36:50 have something when all they are with the
Starting point is 02:36:54 when the California when is Lillian me He's
Starting point is 02:36:59 Armando with the same modus operandi of the always Gloria's because Sergio
Starting point is 02:37:07 is a person who he's very very very much when Gloria me
Starting point is 02:37:12 he's in the 2017 to say me to say to give pardon and
Starting point is 02:37:17 to pay me all what he's everything that may he's maybe he's more
Starting point is 02:37:20 because maybe is the same modus operand in
Starting point is 02:37:25 in in April in finales of April, more or less, of 20,
Starting point is 02:37:31 24, me bused Armando. Has it a little. Has it ago. Nothing.
Starting point is 02:37:37 Nothing. Nothing. Yeah, it was two years, because the encounter was in May.
Starting point is 02:37:42 I'm to say that, well, me says, Gloria, is very very
Starting point is 02:37:48 very very, he's, he's, and you consider a special, as you
Starting point is 02:37:55 a moment he said, and then saying to you that's the way that's
Starting point is 02:38:00 that we're that's that we're that I'm very that I'm because I'm tarrowses with him
Starting point is 02:38:08 to believe and then you know the only the only you know I'm I don't
Starting point is 02:38:15 want to talk to Gloria yeah recommendations of my psychiatrist were you know
Starting point is 02:38:19 you know you we're not we're talking when it was the orlando yeah me and a
Starting point is 02:38:25 mom when I was the situation that I Of the person that could say to
Starting point is 02:38:31 I'm going to that I'm vulnerable. It's vulnerable. But even as vulnerable vulnerable, vulnerable,
Starting point is 02:38:39 yeah not I was to go back to be to make me I did know,
Starting point is 02:38:45 of, no, not participate in the bioseery because I was going to say the
Starting point is 02:38:52 fact, I said, I don't I'm not, I didn't figure out, I'm
Starting point is 02:38:56 didn't I mean, apart of my process of duelo and no, no. I said, I know that Gloria I had seen the car again
Starting point is 02:39:04 more than two times. So, I think, Armando, you have to come to my territrita
Starting point is 02:39:10 for if you want to me my brother, I'm there in the Mochis me
Starting point is 02:39:14 accompanied, I'm I'm to talk and he I'm before that I
Starting point is 02:39:20 said, before I said, I was, I'm, I could do you dozea something. No, there was negotiations, said I mean, no, there.
Starting point is 02:39:30 I said, I'm I'm the only person that that I'm the guilty, that Gloria is culpable, that Gloria is responsible. I said, I'm going to talk to Gloria before you. Gloria me to get to the matadero. Gloria was the facilitator.
Starting point is 02:39:47 Gloria, said all. Gloria they were the stories and how it was the new
Starting point is 02:39:59 history to recruit a other and put us in the other the guard of
Starting point is 02:40:05 silence me heard when he said when he said that all the
Starting point is 02:40:17 and you yeah to finalize me he this is a war
Starting point is 02:40:20 Marlen and we we're against all all the Jendows
Starting point is 02:40:25 contra Liliana for saying what is doing in your podcast and
Starting point is 02:40:30 to get to be a lot. What is more clear than a amazer. I said
Starting point is 02:40:35 okay I mean the message to do you know for you do you do you
Starting point is 02:40:40 and for you know you know what you can not count with me
Starting point is 02:40:47 don't counten with I don't I'm not going to participate to omit
Starting point is 02:40:55 the responsibility of vigourier. Look, Armando, I don't have money, but I have peace. I'm much
Starting point is 02:41:03 peace. And that doesn't that's not, and that would be my, I'm, I'm
Starting point is 02:41:09 all the days I get up a peace in my life, clear, with obstacles, because
Starting point is 02:41:17 all victory requires of a great a great luched. We're in a war.
Starting point is 02:41:27 With with people. With people powerful. Not just they're not more are they
Starting point is 02:41:31 there's people there's the fans I mean I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 02:41:37 with the protection with fans see because we because we're
Starting point is 02:41:44 they're not they're not they're I'm I'm thinking really
Starting point is 02:41:48 that they're even a money they can go back
Starting point is 02:41:51 for all the puts and for all what they do all
Starting point is 02:41:54 they're so they're so for the person. Yes, but we'll we're creating
Starting point is 02:42:02 conciencia. You're you think that in this, Gloria, no is a black
Starting point is 02:42:07 palomilla that the Cerebro of Gloria still still functioning so
Starting point is 02:42:12 powerously and pervers as in that moment. No I think of that that
Starting point is 02:42:18 the camera. Gloria still being being being the same.
Starting point is 02:42:22 She being the same. She's changed. She never so. And why?
Starting point is 02:42:32 Because a victim attack to another victim? Why attack us when we had we only the other 13 years?
Starting point is 02:42:39 Yes. She is responsible. And she is responsible. And you're against her with her
Starting point is 02:42:45 with her against Sergio, contra Mari. No, there's more. And against
Starting point is 02:42:52 all those who have been had been solopado this this.
Starting point is 02:42:59 Televisa has a responsibility television has a much responsibility in this. For that
Starting point is 02:43:05 the series univision no the pasto. There is a response very clear. It has
Starting point is 02:43:10 much responsibility in your moment. You've been has been the chica. Well, clarando,
Starting point is 02:43:15 much thanks. For, for being here. Thank you. Thank you. Presential.
Starting point is 02:43:21 Yes, thanks to the situation legal that I'm going to to go to here to Los Angeles and be
Starting point is 02:43:26 taking and start with and be very alligated for being your new set. Congratulations. Congratulations.
Starting point is 02:43:34 Enolabue. Much excellent. Marlene. What better for me having built this
Starting point is 02:43:40 nido, this bunker for that that's there, people that has to get to
Starting point is 02:43:46 get to the voice. Because it was good, yeah was it.
Starting point is 02:43:49 It was was Angelica Maria the and he spoke of many things of abuse, of the operations colchones,
Starting point is 02:43:57 of the famous today, second program, you sit, you're, you're starting the time, and I don't
Starting point is 02:44:04 know that you had suffered so, of the really, I don't to say, I don't
Starting point is 02:44:08 know about the cancer, the child, but what what you what you did you
Starting point is 02:44:13 don't have any serianita that today that today that that
Starting point is 02:44:17 I'm that's for what the pass because if we this
Starting point is 02:44:22 woman resilient, to get from where it's sitting at this anim,
Starting point is 02:44:31 mil respect, Marlene, Calderon. Because to cross the battle the battle
Starting point is 02:44:37 more that can cross a woman a man, a human, and you
Starting point is 02:44:41 demonstrated that because that also what Gloria or Armando
Starting point is 02:44:46 who maybe is that is that they forjian
Starting point is 02:44:50 in the To the 13 years, and you are you invincible. I'm a person resilient. This word comes from the termino medieval, where they're
Starting point is 02:45:01 to the spades to metal, to the fire, to the fire, to go. Oh, I don't
Starting point is 02:45:08 I don't I'm not what he did Sergio, Gloria, and Mary. No, never.
Starting point is 02:45:16 Resignifico my and the The best manner is to alzar the voice. It's that many women, behind of this screen, that are
Starting point is 02:45:27 passing for something, can identify with what much that me has to happen live. With having out of the loo and
Starting point is 02:45:37 have me been a basis of many years, of many culpas, but is the love more than the
Starting point is 02:45:48 the I'm the life, I'm the environment of my family if a
Starting point is 02:45:55 mother that has a child is the poor that's the
Starting point is 02:46:02 worst but is the love that you keep
Starting point is 02:46:06 to live to honor because Orlando no he was
Starting point is 02:46:10 and his preoccupation was how I was to
Starting point is 02:46:14 get to this victory I I know he's he's he's he
Starting point is 02:46:20 all the would be a good, I'd do all for the moments I'm talking
Starting point is 02:46:24 to be a voyage to I'm want to I'm really thank
Starting point is 02:46:31 thank thank serial has been an honor and pleasure to
Starting point is 02:46:37 get to your serialita um the serianita is very very
Starting point is 02:46:43 I'm I'm emmocioned much. I want to say you there's that no there's
Starting point is 02:46:48 this we're going to go to this, because of the applause. Thank you
Starting point is 02:46:53 to get to staff. Oh, I'm in a heart in the I can create
Starting point is 02:47:00 tangito Vino Dino my Amitio, my no, Tangito,
Starting point is 02:47:09 D'Ean To salm say, Sondon them They're they're they're saying.
Starting point is 02:47:14 But Marlen Dango never never came to say to I'll say to say to say to say to
Starting point is 02:47:18 say to but it but it's impressive chico I'm glad to all the thanks for
Starting point is 02:47:26 having shared this first program of the lunas I'm my set and my
Starting point is 02:47:31 studio new with Marlen Calderon thanks for having been been here Marlen
Starting point is 02:47:36 is here for a situation grave and legal but has been with much
Starting point is 02:47:40 security and has done with all the recaudes of his
Starting point is 02:47:44 abogados and the the counsel of the people that the kid and that you quiddes for favor thank you
Starting point is 02:47:51 thank you thank you the program has been incredible in the program has been you know that they're gonna
Starting point is 02:47:58 this program this program is a master piece of the periodism because this woman here abried
Starting point is 02:48:05 her heart and if in something value the and to have this
Starting point is 02:48:11 place to be this this place is the voice of a
Starting point is 02:48:16 victim like Marlene that not still not has
Starting point is 02:48:22 been a no recently is starting so so
Starting point is 02:48:28 but we're so thank thank we we go
Starting point is 02:48:34 we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're
Starting point is 02:48:36 we're we're all the world Melin Calderon Senora Seniors all the
Starting point is 02:48:41 I love to Venezuela and all the Pertida's because they're part too. And they're part of those people. The kids, they're not
Starting point is 02:48:49 they're not they're not. They're not they're talking. Animo, Venezuela. Arriva. And look,
Starting point is 02:48:56 those children rescatado, for favor. Chau, chao, chao, thank you. Bye.
Starting point is 02:48:59 Bye.

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