Javier Ceriani - Miss Universo sin filtro: Fátima Bosch, Raúl Rocha y las denuncias que ensuciaron un reinado

Episode Date: December 24, 2025

Bien dicen que el que busca, encuentra, y nosotros destapamos toda la verdad detrás de Miss Universo 2025. Desde los orígenes de Fátima Bosch, la actual reina, hasta su ascenso a la cima de la mano... de Raúl Rocha, presidente de la organización, a quien se le cayó la máscara.Audios, denuncias, acuerdos y una serie de situaciones que colocaron el reinado bajo la lupa del mundo entero, analizadas con el ojo crítico de expertos y de testigos que estuvieron dentro de las entrañas del certamen. Nada quedó oculto. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you. Welcome to all this 24 December That's nice Fecha That's good day All right Everybody preparing
Starting point is 00:00:40 the mess The house Limpiann't Transladandot Corriending to get to all the Compras But here
Starting point is 00:00:49 we're taking Compania with Tangito Look that's Bist you Lookin' Lookin'
Starting point is 00:00:54 that I put Seriatas Lookin' I'm the Santa Claus of your life, so no. What beheessa, Tangito. Felic Naviida
Starting point is 00:01:03 this night. It's the night good. And, mania is Navid. Oh, thank you for having got
Starting point is 00:01:10 to have come me. Thanks, because a yearnito we had been born and it.
Starting point is 00:01:16 It was, well, a December marvellousosos we'd again, and never I thought
Starting point is 00:01:21 that I went to after a year to be so that you Serianita
Starting point is 00:01:25 is with me Pansoncito that we have been a year glorious, incredible. Thanks to
Starting point is 00:01:31 the team that's accompanying today. We're doing the food and the food and the
Starting point is 00:01:39 champagne, the glamour to receive a night very good. Oh, that's a
Starting point is 00:01:46 night that's a night good, so I'm here I'm with the crows, the cures the cairns
Starting point is 00:01:52 the alexandro sal, the querno of Wilan Levy and the querns of Donald. Well, we're going to
Starting point is 00:01:58 have today a programazzo divino, hermoso, and I've been a salute very special of someone that you never can't. Who is going to say today that you're seeing this program in exclusive?
Starting point is 00:02:14 Someone that we've talked about the year. Never the interviewed and never the time. So the salute will be original. For all of you, Serianita, a diva of Mexico you'll send a a salute
Starting point is 00:02:26 very special in this program. I'm going to sit, sir, director. Here we're
Starting point is 00:02:30 working, to be 24 of December. Look, that's apatitos. Well,
Starting point is 00:02:36 what? Well, what I'm going to be a wonderful, but also have
Starting point is 00:02:41 brought things that we not we not even we never we never
Starting point is 00:02:47 we never we're that when Fatima and that Fatima and that Thailand, with all the expectative to represent
Starting point is 00:02:57 a Mexico, in a conference of press, a man named Ganga Style, Nawat, would have called Tonto to the participant in Miss Mexico, and she armed a revolu that never could be able to be. Senora of the, you know, Fatima Bosch,
Starting point is 00:03:18 was one of the protagonists of the 2025, and look how she defended with honor being a woman and being Latin there in Thailand Mexico
Starting point is 00:03:34 where are you? Okay I heard you're not going to be to post everything about Thailand, about every article, about our own activity, is it true? Okay, okay, I just ask you, my question is
Starting point is 00:03:47 you can follow our step or not. You can post or not. You can work to promote Thailand or not. Yes or no? Yes, right? Okay, sit down. Thank you so much. You want to win. So that's why you keep quiet. But at this moment, I think it's not good for you. It's not good for you. No, no, not about you. Not about you. Not about you. Not about you. It's not about me. It's about all the people that I will stand. I didn't keep you opportunity to talk. Please. keep political for me. I still talking. I still talking. Listen. I still keep talking to everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Why you stand up to talk to me? Because I have a voice. I don't know if you have a voice. No, you have a voice but you have to let back. You are not respect to me as a woman. What, Mama, why you stand up? I don't want to stand. Security. I'm here representing a country and it's not my vote that you have problems with my organization. No, no. I, uh, listen.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Listen, listen. You must listen to me and then when I ask you you up. This is the wrong. Stop. Stop. Security. Keep security. Stop. Stop.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Stop. Sit down. If anyone want to continue, the content sit down. If you step out, the layers of the girl continue. If anyone want, continue. Can we talk? Yeah, yeah, talk, talk, you can talk. You can fix it, we can bring her back.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Yeah, yeah. You see, the one girl is a problem. Wow. Wow, what moment, eh? After there we thought that Fatima was our Wonder Woman,
Starting point is 00:05:56 our woman our woman and our heroina was the grand woman that had had been in post
Starting point is 00:06:03 of the defense of a woman that had been been an man that year and that
Starting point is 00:06:10 he wrote and that gritted and that was a a gang style, a ninja
Starting point is 00:06:16 that had to attack to our Fatima But then we We started We started
Starting point is 00:06:24 We started We started our Our editorial Our channel To make Averiguations And we We got
Starting point is 00:06:31 We need to An ex-CIO of the Miss Universe Called Rodrigo Gaithatua He us
Starting point is 00:06:38 served in exclusive Before that nobody Before Omar Harfusch Before Norredemola
Starting point is 00:06:45 and Adela Misha And Lopes Doriga we've found a contract that unia to the Papa of Fatima, Pemex, and Rocha. This was a scandal that no pared until the day of today.
Starting point is 00:07:04 A compilado lapidario against the man that man that's the destinos of the Miss Universe that's in Thailandia deciding with Nawat who are going to classify because these two Ganga Style are now
Starting point is 00:07:19 to be strategically who are going to be the finalists. Senora and Seniors, the two hundred fifty denuncias contra Rocha the man
Starting point is 00:07:30 that is deciding who will be the woman these are the women that are the women who denunciate.
Starting point is 00:07:38 My name is Annalidias Infante and I formed a strategic that worked in the relansamient of the Vis Universe, Mexico, in the year
Starting point is 00:07:47 2003. I've heard of the declarations of the Mr. Raul Rocha, where he affirma that no permit that any woman be humiliated
Starting point is 00:07:54 and that his role is the to protect the dignity and the respect to us to us. And I want to say
Starting point is 00:07:59 with total responsibility and that that's not coincide that we've that we've been that we've
Starting point is 00:08:07 been in charge to coordinate the communication, the strategy, the design, the logistics, and the operation of
Starting point is 00:08:11 various things and not only only not only received no remuneration, but I was a witness and victim of grittos, burles, and disqualifications constant.
Starting point is 00:08:21 There were messages in where we were incapaces, we'd say, nervosites, we'd ridiculized for our criteria professional and they used terms offensive
Starting point is 00:08:29 to refer to other people and that you kidnap my kid my nine-year-old kid with the help of the mother when the leaked videos
Starting point is 00:08:39 appear you you kidnap my nine-year-old kids. With the help of the mother, why you don't tell that to the people? You pig, you are a pig. My name is Lillian Agiharro. I also worked for the licensedian Rauro Chakantu.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I suffered of grits, also I suffered of bad words, also suffered of an environment laboral very tense. Not just I was I, the person to which he grittable or to which was said words alt-sacionante. there were other people the ones as well as
Starting point is 00:09:14 women so they were in this form and this manner when in this moment the only
Starting point is 00:09:21 that we was to manage a crisis mediatic with serietta we receive humiliation and no
Starting point is 00:09:27 leadership I'm not permit that the values of respect and dignity to the
Starting point is 00:09:32 women are violent hello hello how I'm here to manifest
Starting point is 00:09:36 now that I'm being victim of agravios against my person about acts of violence
Starting point is 00:09:42 in my contra during my participation in Miss Universe Mexico. He has the obligation to serve us, attenderles and to be
Starting point is 00:09:51 the responsible of that live in an experience unique of life with amability and cordiality for the agression that he did
Starting point is 00:09:58 the public in contra of Fatima Boch Miss Universe Mexico to whom him y'upto and felt
Starting point is 00:10:07 the respect also to resaltar the grand abuse of having called a security to intimidate a indefense to a woman trying to silenciar and exclude her.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Basta, a guard. A total woman in the world should be to respect her. I don't permit her that
Starting point is 00:10:26 none of them be attacked and humiliated to me and instrued to a delegation of an delegation of my
Starting point is 00:10:33 Universal Organization and experts Provados, within the which are the general Mario Bukker
Starting point is 00:10:39 and Ronald Day, for that they're inmediate to Thailand and take the control
Starting point is 00:10:43 of this concentration and the proper event. Deseo resaltar that the
Starting point is 00:10:49 delegations of all the countries count with my total and absolute
Starting point is 00:10:53 support inconditional. And in essence, none never never to permit
Starting point is 00:10:59 that that each such they're in the life because nobody
Starting point is 00:11:03 is more than the other All we are almost, with abilities and qualities different. But that not is superiors to nobody. What is they are nervous? What?
Starting point is 00:11:18 What? What are you talking? And that's a moorosan that's a cat of the medios, no more. And nobody can pass on over the other. And that principle, we have to defend,
Starting point is 00:11:32 always. Or what is happening? Or what is happening? No, it's possible. I mean, a chalain, a mubrozo, that's parrault and question much?
Starting point is 00:11:40 Ah, no, I'm not, I'm very nervous. Very nervous. Very nervous. Oh, God, me, what I'm going to do? In my universe,
Starting point is 00:11:46 the values of respect and dignity to the woman are not negotiables, and we differing contendently of NGI.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I'm reiterate that my universe is a platform of empowerment to the woman and that have heard of their voices in the world and that this is that the standard and that
Starting point is 00:12:09 go out of the man with the bandera that represent all and each one of our delegates. Sietanse always orguliosas and come in with the front in a lot, making valer their ideals and objectives of life and that nobody let's detain. Nobody, that nobody, nobody, nobody, that nobody, that nobody, that nobody,
Starting point is 00:12:28 that's detain. What is happening in the organization is completely irrefutable. I was disapproved completely. Never have lived in a situation like this, and the truth is that I'm scared of all heart. That in what it comes, reigns the
Starting point is 00:12:45 peace. That is the concept principal that we've resalted in this edition. And that, also, has a lot in the world. So, these are the values that legacy holding holds for all
Starting point is 00:12:59 the women's And all your companies serve to the mafia. You're a gangster. Why don't tell the people that you kidnap my kid? My nine-year-old kid with the help of the mother. When the leaked videos appear, you kidnap my nine-year-old kid with the help of the mother. Why don't tell that to the people?
Starting point is 00:13:24 To work for an organization like Miss Universe, that is an organization vulnerable, because there are women, so they have to have totally the coherence. All we deserve respect. That's not we're not treated as tontas. This is an opportunity to be able to say... For that I'm going,
Starting point is 00:13:45 because you know, that the coherency important. No, you can't defend a woman before the cameras, while they aggrady and they disvalorize to disvalorize to the operations behind Why don't you mention that you are riddled with criminal, civil and labor lawsuits here in Mexico that you scam everyone who do business with you
Starting point is 00:14:01 and you end up disappearing. Two hundred and fifty pages, Raoul, of all the lawsuits you have in Mexico alone including the one from Karen Celebrity who work for Miss Universe and you didn't pay her. Suddenly you are a woman's right defender. You are not a trustworthy person to do business with. You are a scammer.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And people will know it. Your entire list of lawsuits is going to be published. If you were a victim of this sexual predator, this murderer, this misogynist in this geese, O'Hidi simply never paid you. It doesn't matter where you are a man or a woman. This is a time to let the world know and stop this scammer and child kidnapper from taking advantage of this current situation to clean up his image. Join this video trend and expose your story. Make sure everyone knows who he really is. Raul Rocha Cantu.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Child Kidnapper. I never had ever seen tantas grave denuncias against a man that's dedicated to the women, that have their filers to a depredator as, supposed and elegantly Ronald Day, that he said,
Starting point is 00:15:17 Gorda and Pallasa Angelica Bale who said Gorda and a Maria Kanceko Adamari Lopez and a Carolina Sandoval he said gordon chancas Cerdas is the man that he
Starting point is 00:15:30 pussed a Ronald Day He molested a loton of muchachitos young, latinos Hispanos of the United mandandoling photos of his pipi This is the delegation
Starting point is 00:15:41 Mexican that is around Fatima Bosch Mr. Presidenta, you're a woman Receiva the denuncias
Starting point is 00:15:50 of these and of these people who are living a pesadilla with this man very very close
Starting point is 00:15:57 to Pem to the and that he's going to say that Fatima is the first five
Starting point is 00:16:04 is right or no Rodrigo and who who will this is another this is other
Starting point is 00:16:10 that is this is other that they're in Miami like a rat because is a
Starting point is 00:16:14 man They were shot on Univision, after the telemundo, because no could have continued with a lack of dignity. And today are in the filas of the Miss Universe, Mexico. So, are the delegation Mexican, this sir. It's in what it is the Miss Universe. You know who is Rodrigo Ronald Day?
Starting point is 00:16:34 Charcotts and things of denunciations that I have of him here. This is the delegation that will defend to Fatima. This is what represents the world of the women and the beauty in the 20-25. The truth, we're in front of an apocalyptus. I think that you describe it perfectly, Faber, we're just front of an apocalypse. There is much incongruence,
Starting point is 00:17:03 and that's what the people have to know, to informers, no? I mean, Ronald Day, is plagued of denuncias as much for women, as for women, of denuncias of discrimination, no, what you do you
Starting point is 00:17:20 mean, you know, obviously there's an interest very strong about the, of why it has to be there, Ronald. There's an interest economic very strong.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And also the people to ask, Javier, what does, for example, Mario Buccaro. You know, something about you to say that number in the middle of the
Starting point is 00:17:42 industry, in the middle of the beauty, do you know? No. What are there? No, we know. Well, it's a political.
Starting point is 00:17:50 It's a political, is a diplomatical, of Guatemala. What has to be? Mario Bucarro, what possible experience could try to the mess?
Starting point is 00:18:01 Mario Buccaro, that is a political, a diplomatical, and that zero has a trajectory, in the industry of the beauty, what could I,
Starting point is 00:18:10 what could try to the mess? Why is what the people have to know because it's
Starting point is 00:18:15 there's going to and that's going to do you in petrol with Raul Rochakantoo
Starting point is 00:18:22 obviously in those no, no, legitimous, negotiations that he is passing
Starting point is 00:18:27 contracts petroleros to Raul and that in your moment will be but
Starting point is 00:18:34 only want to just want to let him What has to do a person with zero experience in a concursor, in the beauty, in the media, in the medium of the entertainment, what has to do here, as CEO, now, of Ms. Universe, me
Starting point is 00:18:48 I'll explain. And now, now see, now see, the moment visagra in that this channel of YouTube, that for so we'll resalted, this channel of YouTube this year, pusson jakemate, to the CEO of Miss Universe Raul Rocha.
Starting point is 00:19:07 We're justaped the Oya and it was the contract that had of almost 45 million of dollars
Starting point is 00:19:16 and almost 750,000 pesos that there had 750 million of pesos
Starting point is 00:19:26 Mexicans that unian to be the father of Fatima the ganada a through Pemex, a petroleda, and Raul Rocha.
Starting point is 00:19:35 This investigation desatow other contracts, other investigations, and even in that moment, no we know that Rocha, was a, a testigo, uncovier. Let's see. Where's Fathima Bosch? Fatima Boch, a chick that no
Starting point is 00:19:56 has no, No trajectory of actress, no trajectory of model, no trajectory practically nothing. No trajectory of actress, no trajectory of model, no trajectory practically nothing. But, we have to figure us in the
Starting point is 00:20:12 Papa of Fatima Bosch, Bernardo Bosch. If you look at the LinkedIn of Bernard Bosch, you'll have to do that is the assessor of the Director General of Pemex for Projects for Exploration, who is the assessor of the Director General of Pemex for Projects to Exploration. So, they're, they're from Tabas.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Fatima Bosch is of Tabasco, a state here in Mexico, the Papa, also. Then, there's the Lincoln, I think there put on the LinkedIn, of Bernardo. So, so we're...
Starting point is 00:20:59 We're not, we're that we're in afto, Veracruz, and Chappas. Exactly. Well,
Starting point is 00:21:09 but, okay, Bernard, has, he's, he's, in many-tantos in,
Starting point is 00:21:16 in, in those cars. Fatima, no has any trajectory of, as, as,
Starting point is 00:21:22 as, as a model, like, as Chris, as nothing. Yes. Let us.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Let's not when he won't. What is what what is what a contract
Starting point is 00:21:36 Javier of Pemex for more of 700 millions of Pes. Raul Rocha
Starting point is 00:21:45 received a contract, Javier, of Pemex for more of 700 million of Pets. How?
Starting point is 00:21:53 How? More than 700 million of pesos. It's a lot of It's a lotcura. It's a lotcura. There's the contract. There's the contract. No, there's, there, there's.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Here's the contract. Here's the contract. Listen, one thing. Here is. These dollars would be approximately about 40 million and
Starting point is 00:22:17 a million and a half dollars. Casse 50 million of dollars. It's a lot of it. It's a lot of it. It's a lot of a lotcura. Now, there are two companies involved. This P, I don't
Starting point is 00:22:30 what, that that was also also involved with with a scandal of corruption for another company. So,
Starting point is 00:22:38 how is possible that solutions gas-sifers of a company, without any ...
Starting point is 00:22:46 infrastructure and infrastructure receive a contract of that much, it's a to another company to make those constructions. Now, in where are these constructions,
Starting point is 00:22:58 Javier, those projects that are doing? Good question. In where you're in Tabasco? In where are those constructions, Javier? In where you think? In Tabasco, Peracruz, and Chiapas. Ah, well,
Starting point is 00:23:13 the circle. Mammata. So, a conflict of interest is brutal. in the in that we don't know to what point, we're going to coroner Fatima
Starting point is 00:23:26 was a special of a special that was a coronar to Fatima was a special of a special that was an additional that's a
Starting point is 00:23:36 pardon, yeah, the papa of Fatima, no, it's a great, thank you for the lobbying,
Starting point is 00:23:45 also you're to help you and there's a special of a regalito, no? So, there is the contract, are 60 pages, I'm like, of the contract.
Starting point is 00:23:54 It's a complete. No, there's a contract. Here. This is the contract complete in exclusive. It's complete. Because it was for that it was to terminate in Tabasco.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And where is the Miss Mexico? Tabast. And where is the Miss Mexico? Tabast. The Tabas. This is very, very... This is very, very very,
Starting point is 00:24:20 we're talking of Pemex, there's clearly Pemex. Here is the contract, almost 50 million of
Starting point is 00:24:27 dollars for a company of Raul Rocha, phantasma, that he certainly would have
Starting point is 00:24:35 contracted another company that has that's the thing. The idea of that is the
Starting point is 00:24:41 company is the contract. I don't need to know, to know, to say, Fatima
Starting point is 00:24:46 of Tabasco, his father of Tabasco, her father in Pemex and then Fatima Gana and Raul Rocha has this type of
Starting point is 00:24:57 of inlaces? No, it needs to be a general to know, to see Fathima to Tabasco, her father of
Starting point is 00:25:03 Tabasco, his papa in Pemex and then Fatima Gana and Raul Rocha have this type of
Starting point is 00:25:10 of inlaces and more And all our investigation, our denuncias, and all what we have, Fatima, Fatima was coroner Miss Universe. Fatima represents, today, a woman most bella of the world. Heva the coroner. He won a Venezuelan, so controversial, also of a family, Nassar, that accusated
Starting point is 00:25:35 of the traffic of the Oro. he won't a cost of Marfil also that Rocha said that never
Starting point is 00:25:42 going to first because it was a morena and he he was to put a morena
Starting point is 00:25:47 in his car but also it was easy to get visa and Miss
Starting point is 00:25:53 Thailandia that also I'm going to win her and ladies
Starting point is 00:25:56 Fatima was she coronable to all all the situations
Starting point is 00:26:01 that were susit with Raul Rocha and so it was
Starting point is 00:26:05 how the world had a rena. Here we go. This universe is Mexico! Ah! Thank you. What Miss Colombia?
Starting point is 00:27:22 What Miss Venezuela? What Thailandia? What would be the winner? There was a debate worldwide about this concurs. Who would be the Miss Universe? Who would
Starting point is 00:27:39 be the woman more beautiful of the planet? We made a debate
Starting point is 00:27:42 impressive with great experts of years that's what is a concurso
Starting point is 00:27:48 of beauty and we get to many conclusions and
Starting point is 00:27:52 many discussions we let let well seora seniors
Starting point is 00:27:58 I'm going to receive it primarily first for me
Starting point is 00:28:03 for me was a Miss Universe. Because if not, it's very difficult to know what was going, what happened, what was going to, what was going to, like Omel Sousa, that knew what was the candidates at the final. He said, Omel, he said Thailand and Mexico.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Also, I need to have people that was in the organization Miss Universe, Mexico. Seniors, we're going to receive to him, to the CEO, of Miss Universe Rodrigo Goy Tortuga welcome but well
Starting point is 00:28:44 good that's how you're how you're well you're for this special much thanks
Starting point is 00:28:51 for invite me thank thank Roderio one of the panelists that will
Starting point is 00:28:55 be here with us we're we're much for we're we're to receive
Starting point is 00:28:59 now to a story to a Miss universe well also
Starting point is 00:29:06 that's in Peru, who is a grand historiator, Matute of Certamines of Beguesa, a man who know the
Starting point is 00:29:14 history of the concurses because it's important to know what what's going to be to receive,
Starting point is 00:29:20 hello, to receive from, thank you. Thank you. We're going, we're going, we're going,
Starting point is 00:29:25 we're going to Venezuela, Senora of Seniors, because there is Marko Michetti that's this year
Starting point is 00:29:34 also this year also this year also opinion. Hello, Markito, where Hello, Javier.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Hello, Julio. You're in Thailand, no. No, I'm in Venezuela. Okay, perfect. Markito, welcome also, and I don't know if there's the, Laura Arellano,
Starting point is 00:29:51 also, that's in Dubai. Senora and Seniors, we're going to receive the Norita. Norita, what I'm doing. Oh, hi.
Starting point is 00:29:58 How are you? A, how you're a pleasure? Well, well, I'll go to go know of a little
Starting point is 00:30:05 you can ask the word and can discuss and
Starting point is 00:30:09 we're with no problem and we we have
Starting point is 00:30:13 a campan for and don't seem and try
Starting point is 00:30:18 to be so because all people want to
Starting point is 00:30:22 hear of you are here for a question
Starting point is 00:30:26 but I do do the arm the right
Starting point is 00:30:28 is the answer I don't I don't I
Starting point is 00:30:31 don't I don't Well, the habit No, well, to be, the question of the question of the
Starting point is 00:30:43 what? What? What was a night? Fatima Bosch is a legitima ganada of the Miss Universe
Starting point is 00:30:52 20-25 or we should put her a sign of a question? Who can start?
Starting point is 00:30:59 Well, I want to start with an experience particular that is related to the day of the day of
Starting point is 00:31:04 yesterday and the day of today, that when I saw the Miss Mexico, that I'm doing the
Starting point is 00:31:10 Miss Mexico, because I did see to see a various concursors national and I saw,
Starting point is 00:31:15 I, I saw, I remember I was like in a avenue historical,
Starting point is 00:31:20 something, like in a pastio and I saw, and I was the
Starting point is 00:31:25 she was the she was the that I'm like, I'm the what I felt, I don't
Starting point is 00:31:31 know who was, from where I mean, because I don't do follow the concurses profoundly, simply let me pass up for the passera and I manifested publicly in my rebe, I like Tabasco. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Then, the day of the election salioed the thing that Osmell said, that had commented in a private, I don't know, and I said, well, coincided with Osmell because you'll explain something, Javier,
Starting point is 00:31:54 that you creas that you're going to, when you're expert, no, it's to say that you you know, because that you were expert and you know what is the reigning. Ommel, we know the expert
Starting point is 00:32:04 that is. And I, from the 17 years, prepare and discover Reynas. So I used my eye clinical that's called. Then she
Starting point is 00:32:13 got at the Miss Mexico, as I was presented, for his attributes, because he was at the visit, and then
Starting point is 00:32:20 I put to look at YouTube, a interview that he did a televisioner Mexican,
Starting point is 00:32:26 being she she, Miss Tabasco still. But you know, that's that was
Starting point is 00:32:30 that is there to be there So I heard about her mom, of her family, of her
Starting point is 00:32:36 abuelita, of her principles, of her history personal, and I sent me a sensation
Starting point is 00:32:43 of that was a woman incredible, exemplar, of those women, that are me,
Starting point is 00:32:48 that are me, that are not operating, that want to be the more bonoeta, or that want to be
Starting point is 00:32:57 the more rich and more savored, like all these influencers, that you know,
Starting point is 00:33:01 that they value much their operations to to concretar his
Starting point is 00:33:07 beauty and I said to Lucho Borreck is my friend of now
Starting point is 00:33:13 of a program that we have a message private and I publiced
Starting point is 00:33:17 on the 17 of September I said I was I was convinced like
Starting point is 00:33:24 I'm many times and like other has passed that
Starting point is 00:33:27 my universe was my Mexico that she was she that she not could
Starting point is 00:33:31 and that I'm going to winpically for the best wow wow there's there's a little
Starting point is 00:33:42 the connection it's a little yeah I saw see the live that you did you
Starting point is 00:33:49 exactly no no to let let not don't move nothing
Starting point is 00:33:55 there there there there is mutated Mitchettie. Okay. So,
Starting point is 00:34:03 you know, December 17, did you get a 17th of 17thine. Yeah, it's been it's been
Starting point is 00:34:10 and it's approved. Yes, and I reiterated that she was my universe for his
Starting point is 00:34:15 attributes. Okay, perfect. Well, then for you know, so it's a reina
Starting point is 00:34:20 legitimate. And I know, that there situations devenida during the concurs,
Starting point is 00:34:29 that they They said to her participates of controversy, that his family, that's his papa, that is Mexican, the dodeo of the concurs, that no has nothing to be. Because Harold Gasser was president of the same universe and was North American and I'd win my States and no passable nothing. And Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:34:46 was president of the same universe and was the United and he'd have to say that for those that said, that he won't, because the is the Mexican, then there's to find a president of his universe or apatrida or of the planet Mars. Well we're going to know
Starting point is 00:35:03 Nora, the Femina how you've seen? A me, Fathima, me really, you know, remember you that I said that she had all to win her. It's that much people can't debate, the beauty is subjective, many of them, if it was more
Starting point is 00:35:17 beautiful, this, had a better body, this, had a better passel of this, and had a more oratoria, but in in a whole, in a woman complete, for me, Fatima, was the better. So,
Starting point is 00:35:27 so, the day in that they were to be to be going to say,
Starting point is 00:35:29 okay, the of the of Nahuat was planned. I don't think that been planned honestly.
Starting point is 00:35:35 No, I don't that's been planned. Naguad I was back to Mexico.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Then, then he went to me back to make mentioned, and she did a
Starting point is 00:35:45 respect, and she went, and she went to and it was, something that wasn't, that you
Starting point is 00:35:48 had been made, to, you have said, that the people, that were there,
Starting point is 00:35:52 the were there, concursants, no she would have been to be able to see or if she had kept there, he would
Starting point is 00:35:56 have been for the fear of the cause of the cause of the reigns, and there's there's not
Starting point is 00:36:04 the type of family of that comes, she is a woman complete and for me was a
Starting point is 00:36:08 julio look, I don't have nothing in contra of Fatima or, of Mexico,
Starting point is 00:36:16 but I kept in chock with the result. Because music attention. For the
Starting point is 00:36:21 competencies, I saw that the representative of Thailand, as the of the Marfil
Starting point is 00:36:27 were the were the requirements to gain the coroner. And, I
Starting point is 00:36:33 surprised the with the triumph of Fatima. Really not me was ever
Starting point is 00:36:40 had been said, they had said, and I prefered ignore then,
Starting point is 00:36:47 well, me came it was a cold, the triumph of the
Starting point is 00:36:51 candidate of Mexican, not because not because in my opinion there were candidates that reunied better requisite than she was. Wow, what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:37:02 sir, and we're going the ex-io of Miss Universe. Rodrigo, you have the word. Thank you. Well, I think
Starting point is 00:37:11 here my position is a little more hybrid in the aspect of that I, I've got a trajectory of 15 years as
Starting point is 00:37:18 a model. I mean have been various concurs. I see, I know you know, what you feel is to be parable there, what is to be back, I know what is to be
Starting point is 00:37:28 what I mean, I know what happens really, I mean, so, that nobody me will tell me in a concurs. Also, I mean, I have the other position, the other postura, of start in, yeah, in the part
Starting point is 00:37:38 of the officeina, the part of directiva. I know a little what happens back, and also ahead and then to then to be so there are
Starting point is 00:37:50 many things with with Marko and also with Julio and with now for example I think that Paterma has been
Starting point is 00:38:01 that's very special if you're heard or not someone? Yeah, there's that's
Starting point is 00:38:05 talking something that don't talk much because there's much a lot or that
Starting point is 00:38:10 I'll be I'm I think Fatima I mentioned in your program, Javier. In fact,
Starting point is 00:38:18 before that all, you and I mentioned, someone that's writing, I don't know
Starting point is 00:38:23 if... Someone is is saying, the teclado. Let, let, for favor,
Starting point is 00:38:29 for for a bit, let me. I think what was, what was that you
Starting point is 00:38:37 and you and we were discussing who were to be going to be, seen from
Starting point is 00:38:41 a point strategic commercial, commercial, that is I'll get a little more my opinion. We've said, Mexico, Thailandia,
Starting point is 00:38:51 Venezuela, and I said Filipinas, for the level of importance that they've been in the market, so that's, seen from a point strategic, commercial. I think that it's one illogical, we did yesterday, since the concert, you and
Starting point is 00:39:06 justly, well, justly, they've got those, no? The first runner-up, separate runner-up, and Mexico I think I think there, no coincide, for example, with Mark because, well, yeah, obviously
Starting point is 00:39:20 Donald Trump, president of his universe in his moment, well, yeah, it was that no, it was that not that was that was that before, no, there were these forums that we have now, are open to be able to debate, and there was more control
Starting point is 00:39:34 over the media, no? But I do if I have conversations, for example, grab-a-and-and-a-ha-ha-ha-Rul saying, if we're going to to do Donald Trump, we're going to
Starting point is 00:39:45 give those contourses to give him and he'll give him to say, like Donald Trump it was in
Starting point is 00:39:50 Las Vegas. And what he metia Donald Trump in Las Vegas? These businesses, casinos,
Starting point is 00:39:55 this, and every two years was the concurs in the country. So, record we
Starting point is 00:40:01 the year where was the new year this year where was the year who the
Starting point is 00:40:06 classificed, the year the year classified who classified they classified this year. So, then, well, it's a
Starting point is 00:40:12 tendency, no, Osmeil, that was also, that also knows the, the, that also know the politics, from, from from, of how to move. And he has a, an indicator, he said, very clearly, Thailand and Mexico, in the final. So, because he, because he
Starting point is 00:40:32 know how are taken to the strategies commercial for all this, no? Mark, what you think? of what you're saying Desmondiater? I think that it's speculative
Starting point is 00:40:45 because the only the only is what is the view of the kids are lindas
Starting point is 00:40:52 the five finalists were linded the level of them is little
Starting point is 00:40:57 and desmerited me is unhuman to say that was a
Starting point is 00:41:01 person and I think it's a little ethical that you say
Starting point is 00:41:05 that was that was a thing a see, you can't see at the view as
Starting point is 00:41:11 they're in their temperament. Well, Fatima, no has to move to like my Colombia,
Starting point is 00:41:17 that my Colombia is sexy. My Colombia is a woman that has posed for for a top of
Starting point is 00:41:23 un-dunned or semi-dunud because his values personal they're in Fatima
Starting point is 00:41:27 not do do you. Fatima not has not had because he seems because he
Starting point is 00:41:33 is indecente. So, because come to the other and it put a prosthesis
Starting point is 00:41:35 super to be after the like Thailand, not want to say that she is less bella. And there are all these
Starting point is 00:41:41 little these girls that are very and that are impeccable and that are incredible. That you
Starting point is 00:41:47 do you want to say that you're going to you're going to that you're that's all that's that's all right
Starting point is 00:41:53 that's for you for what you for you see the concurs for you also I'm particularly
Starting point is 00:41:59 I know particularly know that's and it's meritorio me understand then so that
Starting point is 00:42:04 not participate Thailand and Mexico never You know, you know, what he has worked in Thailand, to get there. The classes that took, the perfect that was peinada,
Starting point is 00:42:14 bested, how could act, and manage. No, he's going to get a Costa Rica, being more bea to Costa Rica, but not have the same force and projection. Rodrigo, you have to respect the things. Yes, well, I think Marcos is that
Starting point is 00:42:29 confunding. I don't think that not said that not they were more than I said that there are indicators of that this,
Starting point is 00:42:36 to be, let me see, but when when you say how you're how you're you're saying that you're
Starting point is 00:42:42 saying that you're accommodated because Raul Rocha said and because the other Andy, but I'm not I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:42:48 to, I'm not I'm not saying at the at the factima is a woman and a woman
Starting point is 00:42:53 educated and and fined and with and it's the same what we need I need to I need.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I said I said there were one one thing one one that one
Starting point is 00:43:03 that no in the that no in the part of strategic commercial you're going to you're talking in the part
Starting point is 00:43:10 but that's in your mind you're in your imagination no no no no no no no that's not even like I mean look at Javier
Starting point is 00:43:20 someone me said a year a person like a person like the person who's about here that's that sure can't
Starting point is 00:43:25 and the China or India because are the countries more populated and there you go but where you're
Starting point is 00:43:29 you can't you're in Nicaragua what negotiate in Nicaragua? that there are a business in Angola or in France that have gotten to the last few years. So, are you guys
Starting point is 00:43:38 of decrediting, to talk of something for that you have an algorithm in Instagram or on YouTube some scandal that you want to form or subcions. But Julio is also
Starting point is 00:43:52 you're surprised with that you think that you're more that's all that you're prepared all that you're not
Starting point is 00:43:57 you surprised the result. Yes. Yes. Really without desmerecer to Fatima
Starting point is 00:44:06 I think that there were the kids in the concurs because Fatima
Starting point is 00:44:10 not was the more in the way of a better in trage of the ball
Starting point is 00:44:17 and it was the more passarela so are many things in my
Starting point is 00:44:24 opinion there there were other chikas more the crown
Starting point is 00:44:27 than she and Michetti what that's what he said Omar the juror,
Starting point is 00:44:35 Harfuch, that was the juror that was the courted. This is normal that the jurors
Starting point is 00:44:41 renunciate? We don't have, the post. Who is him? You know who is
Starting point is 00:44:48 this person? Miss Mexico is a false ganada. I Omar Harfuch declared
Starting point is 00:44:54 a year in exclusive in the American NG and 24 hours
Starting point is 00:44:57 before the final of Miss Universe that Miss Mexico would
Starting point is 00:45:01 because the of Miss Universe, Raul Rocha, has a new business with the father of Fatima Boch. All the details will be in May of 2026 in HBO. Raul Rocha and his his son, me insta, in a day, to vote for Fatima Boch,
Starting point is 00:45:17 because they need to gain, because it would be a good for our negotiation, me said. Well, it's normal, this? No, I would have. No, it would be normal. Really, there are many things that are not clear.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And, oh, I hope, in some moment, so clarke. How many times happened? Historically, in the Miss Universe. There were other, other cases?
Starting point is 00:45:46 You know, look? In many opportunities, the people don't get conformed with the winner, but anteriorly,
Starting point is 00:45:55 there was a firm auditora that if she accredited the results, and there was more sered in the What I've
Starting point is 00:46:02 liked, ultimately, the Miss Universe is that's in the book of all, but for the scandals, and that not should be. Vending the contract this that we gave Rodrigo, in exclusive, the contract, the
Starting point is 00:46:14 contract says that the concursant of every country minimum, tendria to be the last three months in the country that
Starting point is 00:46:24 represents, things that Lina it does, no it could do not do do it, because never was in Cuba.
Starting point is 00:46:30 We're going to see this incis because we've two participants that not live in the country that represent, Ms. Ecuador and Ms. Cuba. Let's see. Entiento that this is a document legal important related to my participation in the certament, and that, while firm it, I'm renunciating to the rights legal
Starting point is 00:46:51 that could have against J.K.N. Universe of Miss Universe Organization and its respective matrices subsidiaries, functionaries, actionists, members, administrators, affiliates, subducesors, and sessionaries.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I'm so I'm I accept to that you're control total over every aspect of the Certamem. That your
Starting point is 00:47:13 decisions are final and obligatorias and not are subject to appellation. Declar I guarantee so that
Starting point is 00:47:20 I'm sure with one of the next requisitesites of the residence and documentation. Actualual
Starting point is 00:47:25 I've resided in my state as my residency permanent and
Starting point is 00:47:29 principal during a period of at least 90 days consecutives immediately anterior to the Fecha of the Certamen. Residence permanent and principal signify my domicilio, real, fission, the place where I'm really living and that I'm the intention to maintain like my home permanent. Accepted that no realiser I'm
Starting point is 00:47:48 any declaration public or private that could defamar, discredit, daignar the reputation, affect negatively to Miss Universe production of the Certamen or members of personal, Concursants, Patrocionators, leaders, or proprietaries
Starting point is 00:48:03 of the organization. Tampo put insinuar favoritism, injustices, manipulation, corruption, Trato partial, discrimination
Starting point is 00:48:11 without evidence verifiable, and without the canals official. Accepto indemnizize to pay for damages or
Starting point is 00:48:19 costs to my universe and his employees or any reclimate by my conduct, my declarations, my incumpliment
Starting point is 00:48:27 my actions negligent, violations to this accord and damages to this accord and damage caused to thirders during my participation.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Renuncio explicitly to the right to participate in demandas or initiate a action of group, as like
Starting point is 00:48:41 unir me to a group of demandants. Wow, Rodrigo, what contracto, no? That's great
Starting point is 00:48:47 this. Yeah, I mean, for that's that, I don't, I don't this is something,
Starting point is 00:48:54 this is something that is something that's a organization. And, of actually, I'm, I'm blinded because I entered just in the change when Raul took the control
Starting point is 00:49:04 and I gave to Raul with a relation very direct, very direct, of confidence, and to me not make sure an ND. And what was that when I me felled with Raul, to all the new that were that were, that were, and that didn't have been firmed in DA, they're
Starting point is 00:49:19 making an NDA, because the people know that is a day and is a contract like this, of confidentiality. And in when they're they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:49:29 so for this for example, the universe of the United not have been
Starting point is 00:49:33 about those that they're they're they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:49:37 not, many people have they have been they're so so
Starting point is 00:49:41 this kind of all yeah it's yeah, yeah, but all this
Starting point is 00:49:47 is what you can do you can't do you all this is controlled
Starting point is 00:49:50 for we also then they they're a now now
Starting point is 00:49:55 So his good faith, no? Now, now, now, a question, the daughter of Lilia Stephan, Lina, he does. That's the last 12 finalists, that's so, it was arreggled. Pardonem me, but not was to get it. No, I see, Julio Bosch, or chikas, with the experience,
Starting point is 00:50:15 what, what do you think you? It's, they put it for that to keep tranquil, I don't, Estefan. Look, in my opinion, well, I don't have Alina in my top, in the first. But, but
Starting point is 00:50:33 every criteria, each juror, has been a good has a good that's a good. Now, well, fiatte,
Starting point is 00:50:40 something you did you, you said, that only Cuba and other other chica, and Ecuador. And Ecuador,
Starting point is 00:50:47 that no were in their countries, but not were only they. various Iraq, live in the US, Kosovo, also, the Israel,
Starting point is 00:50:56 no live in their country, in Nicaragua, also. So the rules have changed a little with respect to that there's more more liberty
Starting point is 00:51:07 at the hour of the candidata, that if should have to have a residence as before,
Starting point is 00:51:15 it was obligatory. Now, this, what I wanted to say with the designator that's disconnected is
Starting point is 00:51:22 not I'm not I'm in he, that was this of that there there's a but if I'm
Starting point is 00:51:30 to agree because for me for example Fatima and what I mentioned yesterday Fatima has something
Starting point is 00:51:37 that me I like much that was what I said earlier Javier so me make a
Starting point is 00:51:43 candidate that and not is like the molde of the That's at typical
Starting point is 00:51:48 rompe with all Elcanceable. A Fatima is a family, a Fatima
Starting point is 00:51:53 is a nearer, a Fatima is like that you knows. It has something
Starting point is 00:51:59 and what what he said the designer is something to be operated.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Or not is to operata that Fattima is a natural. And Fathima is distinct
Starting point is 00:52:11 because Fatima is distinct for the absence of plasticification. It's
Starting point is 00:52:17 distinguish, for being organic, for being natural, for all of that, and I think that was that was a
Starting point is 00:52:23 maybe something. Well, a debate and there is a between Rodrigo and our
Starting point is 00:52:31 friend Venezolano that's he fell, no, no, she fell the no
Starting point is 00:52:36 nobio there, but also he fell in the common, the internet, as always
Starting point is 00:52:40 in Venezuela, as they were the things in that the moment. Well,
Starting point is 00:52:44 um, She coroned Fatima, the concurses had terminated, but
Starting point is 00:52:50 came all the accusations that had Raul Rocha the CEO of Miss Universe
Starting point is 00:52:56 Serianitas of Mexico Wachicol robo of gasoline traffic of arms traffic of
Starting point is 00:53:04 what whatever obviously traffic of substances a a business a
Starting point is 00:53:10 a car and a a voyage of an avion out of the hangar of Rocha to Africa where
Starting point is 00:53:20 he discovered that was there was a criminal organized. Terrible. Terribles
Starting point is 00:53:27 accusations. He's to give to the justice, he's as a person
Starting point is 00:53:31 he canceling his activities and get congelated his vials.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Raul Rocha in the mirror of the justice Mexican. Raul Rocha,
Starting point is 00:53:43 the 20% of Miss Universe, is in the center of an investigation federal that he's called as a resunto operator of a red of
Starting point is 00:53:51 hydrocarburo, arms, and support direct to the criminal the the Fiscalia General of the Republic
Starting point is 00:53:58 had a order of a preension in his contra but surprisingly now is
Starting point is 00:54:03 testigo protected of the public the public reformer. The period Reforma
Starting point is 00:54:07 has presented point-a- documents that do implicate. The expedient has been opened on 15th of November, sustenny, that Rocha Cantu would have directed a structure criminal that operable from Guatemala and wastesy a cartels like the Gulf and the
Starting point is 00:54:23 group SOMB. The FGR, the accuser of delinquency organized for traffic of arms and traffic illegal of hydrocarburos. The 19th of November, four days after to emitters the order of capture, the Fiscalia formalized his entry as testigo, collaborator. This
Starting point is 00:54:39 jugged implicate information clave to change of benefits judicial. Of course with authorities, Rocha Cantu
Starting point is 00:54:46 offered data about contraband of combustible, lavado of money, and vincolios, and business, the red
Starting point is 00:54:52 had been operated from Keretaro. The bodega, the spuel, in the complex, Ferropolimers,
Starting point is 00:54:58 received a carotankees with combustible robbed, imported, imported, illegally, this carburante
Starting point is 00:55:03 was made with additivos in other center called The Patio to then to use to use
Starting point is 00:55:09 to use to buy and then the factura the factura the companies fachada
Starting point is 00:55:15 like Tabasco Capital and PTIH all with documentation false that permitting
Starting point is 00:55:21 evading control and the traffic of the traffic to get a firms
Starting point is 00:55:28 of a firmas of security private Fugia Fugia Fugia Fugia
Starting point is 00:55:30 Furned and legalizing the Fiscalia to the group Sombra in Veracruz and to integrants of the cartel of the Gulf. Between them, operators
Starting point is 00:55:41 known as the Kpe, the Loco, and the M. The structure conto with collaboration of ex-membros of the Sedena who'd rematriculabal the arms with registries official. The 21 of October,
Starting point is 00:55:53 Rocha Cantu is present to the Femdo and pede incorporate as a testigo protected. The 15th of November,
Starting point is 00:56:00 the order of preension. The 18, C. Mar and the fiscal piece a clave in the logistic and the 19th of November the FGR formalized
Starting point is 00:56:10 the accord of collaboration with Rocha Cantu. The case is followed directly by the administration of the President Claudia Sheimbaum and form part
Starting point is 00:56:18 of the agenda inmediata of the Ministry Public Federal. How was to be to? No, Rochakantoo nor the organization
Starting point is 00:56:25 MisUnivers have been an declaration public. All right, ladies, So I think it's the moment more
Starting point is 00:56:35 expected. Oh, God, my. That's great. I know that's all the industry waiting.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I see that all the channels of television looking this information that we're to take
Starting point is 00:56:50 now. We're the first in give the contract of Fatima and his father
Starting point is 00:56:56 with Raul Rocha then he's got the Miss Universe. Much people
Starting point is 00:57:00 not want to see the reality. Yesterday, Rodrigo gave to say to us that he was
Starting point is 00:57:05 toot a bomb and the bomb exploded. This is the contract that we took us
Starting point is 00:57:09 in exclusive that Rodrigo us brought clearly the corruption
Starting point is 00:57:15 of the miso universe with one of the candidates the father
Starting point is 00:57:18 of Fattima Bosch involved with Raul Rocha now that Raul Rocha is or
Starting point is 00:57:26 can't be or can be maybe a delinquent all those that they've been
Starting point is 00:57:31 pegged to rocha are going to get pegats including Pemex
Starting point is 00:57:36 and he and he he recognized that there was a contract of Rhocha with Pemex
Starting point is 00:57:42 so that today all those who defended a rocha from the Gordie and the
Starting point is 00:57:49 Jordan Martin all those those who lavored the image all those Stephans
Starting point is 00:57:55 are to defend to defend a Rocha today to the telemundo,
Starting point is 00:58:02 all out today to defend a Raul Rocha to be you can. Robigo, welcome.
Starting point is 00:58:09 How about Javier? How are you? It's all, Javier. I'm going to be a little bit of a favor. Able!
Starting point is 00:58:19 Aplom! Aplauso for you too, for the excellent work that they're doing. Well,
Starting point is 00:58:27 but Rodrigo, there to go to the fount, There are to go to those who know, there are those that are the people. No, we're going
Starting point is 00:58:33 to be inventing because even as, as you Omar Harcuch heard, but it's not that's that
Starting point is 00:58:43 has to have a problem, none of the portals of the news, had the proof that
Starting point is 00:58:47 you had, and I thank you to be to be with this channel, is one of
Starting point is 00:58:52 the most in the social. Rodrigo, yesterday you've said of me saying
Starting point is 00:58:58 that there was something more great and more grave than Pemex and said that this was the end. And not
Starting point is 00:59:05 passed 24 hours, passed 12 and floted the bomb. Exactly. Exactly. That good that you mention and I
Starting point is 00:59:14 just mentioned that all at his due moment and yeah we know that we had this
Starting point is 00:59:23 no? If but I mean, I said that was the end of my universe or
Starting point is 00:59:31 maybe you know, for the declarations that had made made he had done,
Starting point is 00:59:36 the Vizado of Cotewa but I knew that there was that was the end, no?
Starting point is 00:59:43 But I say here also in an exclusive in your program Abir no,
Starting point is 00:59:50 the better is for coming still no! No! Still
Starting point is 00:59:54 there is more. No, I can believe. It's incredible, incredible, but there are still more that will be going to be. It's a complicated.
Starting point is 01:00:08 We're going to talk about what what happened today. Basically, this order of preemption, of what This order This order of predation comes
Starting point is 01:00:23 of that there's well of that there's there there a denunciable
Starting point is 01:00:29 of this someone who denounced all this and well
Starting point is 01:00:38 more than he investigated a Raul Rocha for the
Starting point is 01:00:45 vincul we're going to say right for protection legal
Starting point is 01:00:49 presumptos vincolos with with narcotrachy with the traffic of arms with
Starting point is 01:00:59 Wachicol for those who know that we can in many in many know what they know
Starting point is 01:01:04 what you know they don't whatchikol is extract to the manner illegal any
Starting point is 01:01:10 any any product derivated of the petrolio no or the petrol
Starting point is 01:01:15 or gas or any whatever derivation particularly in Mexico the petrolio pertainse
Starting point is 01:01:25 to the state pertaince in theory to the Mexicans and to the state and the state is the that can exploit that that petrol
Starting point is 01:01:37 there are people that say performed ducts because the ducts because the ducts of the petroleum then are for the subsuelo
Starting point is 01:01:47 or no or for the water and perfor ducts and extract of the ducts the petrole
Starting point is 01:01:57 or the gas or what whatever this hydrocarburo and this and this then they're commercialize
Starting point is 01:02:04 to do it in a term very easy is imagine that the gasolina that that that
Starting point is 01:02:11 vmex for example in the gas in Mexico is transport through this,
Starting point is 01:02:17 of, uh, the, uh, for the sub-suel and the people perfor,
Starting point is 01:02:24 and extract these, this, this, that's, that's, that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:02:30 gasolina and then, so if you it costs $10 pesos, maybe they they're revend
Starting point is 01:02:35 in $7 pesos, no, but it's a product that they don't they cost nothing,
Starting point is 01:02:39 more than to robes, so basically is the rob, not only only only perforan, tureas,
Starting point is 01:02:43 there's many many ways of to rob this combustible. In Mexico we've
Starting point is 01:02:47 a scandal a little of that they were a book bookes gargated
Starting point is 01:02:52 of gasolina for that the people know or of hydrocarburo and
Starting point is 01:02:59 and it and it they were another thing it was another type of chemico
Starting point is 01:03:06 and not hydrocarap and it they were they were in this is a delito
Starting point is 01:03:11 federal it's penalism and it's the grand this the grand this
Starting point is 01:03:18 how is the grand scandal of now and a Raoul is it is also
Starting point is 01:03:24 with Wachikol but with narcifical with with traffic of arms because also
Starting point is 01:03:29 also also also well the traffic of well we can't
Starting point is 01:03:34 well we we have we we're we suppose allegamating
Starting point is 01:03:40 music of tension in an avion Raul Rocha transport in their
Starting point is 01:03:51 carter an avion an avion private but you it's an alpinner of an
Starting point is 01:04:00 plane and in these avion in these are in those are in the airports
Starting point is 01:04:07 private and a sometimes not you can traffic to get, and a lot of
Starting point is 01:04:16 things. What is about the route of the avions of Rocha? What is where
Starting point is 01:04:22 they went to Africa? Look. Look. Look. Raul Rocha has a company
Starting point is 01:04:31 that's called Century Aviation. Okay? So, in Century Aviation, that,
Starting point is 01:04:39 in actually, we did commercial, to Century Aviation when I was working there. Century Aviation was the company with that moved to the Miss Universe, and that so that's a publicity. And, obviously, it was a company of aviation private, that were rented the charters
Starting point is 01:04:57 for empresaries, for, oh, I am I'm an an employee, I want to go to Monterey, rent a avion, and I'm going to Monterey and you do rents, no? So, there, for example, in a on the screen is out a little of commercial that we grab us for, for him, and all of that in Central Aviation, no? So, what is what that is what happens?
Starting point is 01:05:20 Well, that, so, these aviions not come from an airport, say, normal, commercial, if not, they're in an airport private, no? So it's a little more, easy to evade certain filters, certain filters, uh, legal. Now, Raul Rocha had a, uh, an avion, uh, a gold stream. If I've got a matricula, also, uh, and that gold stream, it's a presumed group delictive, that, wow,
Starting point is 01:05:58 that boll stream, all-parend, that is that we've been in the video, this it appeared in Africa and it got out of
Starting point is 01:06:10 Africa cargated of drugs so then then there there was
Starting point is 01:06:17 a line of investigation to Raul Rocha for to see there
Starting point is 01:06:21 of his cargion with this cargament of drugs but you know
Starting point is 01:06:27 what is the most grave Javier I don't to do you to
Starting point is 01:06:29 let Well, obviously all this is very very grave, but figgate just what idonical that is the
Starting point is 01:06:38 life and this I think well that's well, it's been a lot of international. Why,
Starting point is 01:06:44 remember you because no won't Kotewa? For the visa, for the 172 countries
Starting point is 01:06:51 that no they don't visa to this country. Look, no more that coincidencia
Starting point is 01:06:57 that no has a visa for to be in the States United
Starting point is 01:07:01 or that they're to be a Raul Rocha how a Raul Rocha to he cancelled
Starting point is 01:07:13 a Raul Rocha and a his wife and I think that his his son he canceled
Starting point is 01:07:18 the visa for the United or so they're so they're so so
Starting point is 01:07:22 so so so Raul Rocha not he can get to go to
Starting point is 01:07:26 United If the gringos, if the gringo they cancels because the gringo, you know, they've got it's clear, no? So, the angelito, so I don't but that's all,
Starting point is 01:07:41 you know, you can't get because your country needs 172 visas. Ah, but I don't say I don't say I don't have visa to enter in
Starting point is 01:07:50 States. For that was that accedo to to cooperate with with the fiscality. because, remember that in the
Starting point is 01:07:58 casino Royal, when he were in many many-tant people
Starting point is 01:08:01 about the he went to the United and he was in the United and he
Starting point is 01:08:07 was protected and now now he been cancel to the visa. Yeah no
Starting point is 01:08:12 can't go to go to then so he so he to operate to
Starting point is 01:08:17 to be to be a pen or for to mitigate the impact that all
Starting point is 01:08:23 that all this could have to have been. That's what the
Starting point is 01:08:28 thing. I know much of avions because I've much investigation
Starting point is 01:08:32 about the avion with the cabists and with this
Starting point is 01:08:35 thing of the narcotrific when when when a
Starting point is 01:08:40 vehicle to what what most the most the
Starting point is 01:08:46 world is that the nonco trafficants have they can
Starting point is 01:08:50 move and that can buy For so, to sell an an arco is a grave-issue.
Starting point is 01:09:01 For so the matriculas, that number-it- that's there are in those are very fiched because
Starting point is 01:09:09 each one of those have been to be regulated by the United at a level
Starting point is 01:09:14 they're and they're to check- that the those avions private that are that are
Starting point is 01:09:20 in the world have that number and can't have registration of where they're moving although I'm
Starting point is 01:09:30 convinced that the 50% of the airports not revisions not revised. Look, yes, in part,
Starting point is 01:09:40 is as as you as, as you know, in Mexico is in the Secretary of Aeronautica to track
Starting point is 01:09:47 these, these, these, the fact, we're trying the route that I see this avion in particular, and
Starting point is 01:09:54 posteriorly then I'll sharement then I'll share that's, it's, it's, it's, like the GPS, no, it's a, where it was moving, and where it's, in where it's, in where it's where it's pego, all of that,
Starting point is 01:10:07 so, so, so, I'm going to share then, this, but so, effectively, in the aviones privates, the security is much minor. And this facilitates that then certain activities
Starting point is 01:10:25 illegal can't take to do, not? Within them, then is this what happened. That was the avion was detained, much time in the hangar because he was in investigation and
Starting point is 01:10:37 then he went to that the air, so. So, this This is the hangar of, this is the Angar of Centurion Aviation? The Century, that that you're seeing, is the hangar of Century Aviation. There's, exactly. Rocha has, right?
Starting point is 01:10:56 The rocha, not all those avioles that are there are yours. Sure. So, so, are you guys, are the avioles of other entrepreneurs, that they put in the hangar, that Confian Aviation for that Central Aviation for rents, no, to Paraguels, or simply they'll guard the entrepreneurs for when they want to travel, no?
Starting point is 01:11:15 because an avion, well, not is, not is, like, like, like, but it's,
Starting point is 01:11:18 like, you can't be in the thing, it's not, no, the aviose, there's a
Starting point is 01:11:23 obviously, a little a lot of, you know, to get it to have to get it, every
Starting point is 01:11:29 when you get you and you get ridges, every thing, every thing, is a post
Starting point is 01:11:34 impressionant, no? So, so, so, just basically, as he's like,
Starting point is 01:11:39 how operable this company of Raul, no? So, all those that Dr. Raoul is illegal. No, no, but
Starting point is 01:11:48 let's be, and more Lupita, John, yeah had announced that there was much fraud, many things. I, today, me preoccupied a little, because the president says, have to separate what the
Starting point is 01:12:02 fiscality can say, derocha, of the Miss Universe. I don't know what I'm going to separate, because he, he, he, he, he no, he, he, he, was to put to, when he was to put to such fame
Starting point is 01:12:12 world, having these newties rare if is that the fiscalia those comprue,
Starting point is 01:12:18 it's a risk, being a famous, that can elevate or to make in the
Starting point is 01:12:23 carcels. Because now, for me, the Miss Universe got to this.
Starting point is 01:12:30 They're have to get to the same the Miss Universal, to start going,
Starting point is 01:12:34 telemundo is involved, is involved, those who were the people were the
Starting point is 01:12:40 thing that now, Who limped this? Here It's johdido
Starting point is 01:12:50 The Stephans They went to Rosh and the music Now They're going to All right I'm going to
Starting point is 01:12:59 I'm I imagine that is But Javier There's There's something That you You say
Starting point is 01:13:04 Well I think With this My universe My universe has Mured I'm worth
Starting point is 01:13:09 from before, from the declarations that did Raoul Rocha, with this, is obviously much more more more than ever, more than ever, but I'll say, still not is the
Starting point is 01:13:22 better. Still, no, no, it's the more. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm more. Because this you're going to give a little
Starting point is 01:13:30 pista. In these are, they're, they're going to get, and are to go to the most
Starting point is 01:13:37 high mandos of Mexico embarras involved this this is
Starting point is 01:13:44 this he will give a bit this this he will do
Starting point is 01:13:49 the world but not only that this this this
Starting point is 01:13:54 maybe is the detonate of a change of the
Starting point is 01:14:02 party political for so for the next selections of Mexico. In that
Starting point is 01:14:13 that's that's very, you see? No, is that has been what I said to what I'll say something,
Starting point is 01:14:20 it's a very bad. Oh, bro, I've got to undir. You've just to unding
Starting point is 01:14:26 all. And you I'm going to do another of the idea. Who is
Starting point is 01:14:32 the CEO of the universe? You know, remember your name? He changed.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Ronald A. No, no, no. Mario Buccaro. Ah, Mario Buccaro, yeah. Mario Buccaro, this company central American. Politico, Guatemalteco.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Guatemalteco. Guatemalteco. Tire the bomb. Well, will be going to do something with him.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Oh! Remember you, Kavir, that in some moment, of the first interviews, from you with this year, he put
Starting point is 01:15:18 a video where different people that had been to talk with Raoul Rocha, they said how they were the
Starting point is 01:15:25 denuncias of the employees that no the people enojado with his maltrato, contract of
Starting point is 01:15:31 confidentiality and it was all this. And then I said, all of your companies are related
Starting point is 01:15:37 with the narco in that video you're a narco and that the people will be
Starting point is 01:15:42 to be your idea is that's doing. Well, if we talk about Mexico
Starting point is 01:15:49 let me let me because if the senior of the beauty
Starting point is 01:15:54 the of the miso universe yeah had contracts and
Starting point is 01:16:00 I'm to go to to get to to because a consigneur
Starting point is 01:16:06 of Guatemala he had had given that immunity and also the exploitation of minerals and the
Starting point is 01:16:12 oil and the barbaro let us let's see this clip.
Starting point is 01:16:19 A see, reveled the contracts of Pemex with the Papima here in
Starting point is 01:16:26 exclusive in your program were the were the ones and the first and
Starting point is 01:16:30 you and this desat the bomb world. And, in fact, I think Omar was on this
Starting point is 01:16:37 for declarer, no? And he confessed. Yes. After, we've, then,
Starting point is 01:16:45 we've put in evidence to various things, well, we said, before, of the
Starting point is 01:16:52 Miss Universe, who were going to know, if you remember, all this. Then we
Starting point is 01:16:57 did we did another program where, yeah that Raul was implicated, or imputed,
Starting point is 01:17:01 more well with the traffic of narcotics and all this, we'll show us certain images of an avion that could be involved also with this type of things, no?
Starting point is 01:17:14 So, what I've taken now, look. And this also is you're of the first to know. Music of attention exclusive. Music of attention
Starting point is 01:17:25 exclusive. Okay, we've revealed a contract of Raoul Rocha with Pemex. But this is a much more
Starting point is 01:17:35 and this is a level international. Raul Rocha formed and here I have
Starting point is 01:17:43 the act for example here I have the act of this with the actuarial
Starting point is 01:17:52 the register civil here here I'm the constance of the
Starting point is 01:17:57 registration to the register Well, yes, in Guatemala. It's a superintendence of administration tributary, no? And resulta that Raul has a contract
Starting point is 01:18:12 of exploration and exploitation of hydrocarbubors in Guatemala. All complete. How? Because is relevant this, Javier.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Here are some things that are very relevant. I'm going to say what are you're going to say, do you recalls exactly of what are you asking to Raul Rocha now the Fiscalia with the lavado of the
Starting point is 01:18:41 money? Wachikol, traffic of gasoline for those who don't understand in the term, arms and collaborate with narcotrifice or we know what cartel is one of the most grand.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Yes. Where do you to where? Recurances, where do you put it? Guatemala, Ruta, Mexico, Ruta, Guatemala. Okay, figgat.
Starting point is 01:19:04 You'll go to learn a line of time for that the people can understand a little more a detail
Starting point is 01:19:11 all of that. Perfect. We're to siter in the 2020, where is the
Starting point is 01:19:15 government of Alexander Yamate. So, in this moment, the president
Starting point is 01:19:22 Yamate has been as an ambassador in Mexico to Mario Buccao. Okay?
Starting point is 01:19:29 The So in the name, Mario Buccaro. Oh, CEO of the Miss Universe. In 2020, Mario is in Mexico as an ambassador. 2002, Xavier, he's nombre to Raul Rocha as a consul-honorary of Guatemala in Toluca, Mexico.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Okay? To this nombramination, when it's called on Consul, assist Mario Bukh, Buccaro, to inaugurar the event. So, yeah, from here we can't see, the sercania political and diplomatica between Raul Rocha and Mario Buccaro.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Then, we're going to 22. February of the 2012, ascinden a Mario Buccaro as a minister of relations exteriors of Guatemala. What signific to this? It's a convert in the consigneur.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Okay? It's the right right practically of the president. 2002, so, a company
Starting point is 01:20:23 legacy holding but in Guatemala. In 2022, is a legacy holding in Guatemala. Yeah, you know, Mario Buccaro
Starting point is 01:20:34 and Raul and Raul Rocha. So, in 2012 this legacy holding, that here is the act constitutive,
Starting point is 01:20:41 the duaneo is Raoul Rochakut. It's this contract that we're seeing. Let me to be.
Starting point is 01:20:50 A very, that's the contract that is the contract holding, society anonymous.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Exactly. Society Anonymous, there we'll be, Miamaritcho. That is, well, it's the register, not,
Starting point is 01:21:05 between the company, what you're not, you're saying. That's the register of the company. There's the register of the company. There's a, in that you can't,
Starting point is 01:21:14 okay? 22. Dime. It's the 22, the 14, the 10 of the 22. Exactly. It's a representative
Starting point is 01:21:23 of the company. Exactly. November of 2022, Javier, this is very, very important. So, cede in the rights of the contract petrolero to
Starting point is 01:21:36 Legacy Holding. There is a company that's called GFI Petroleum in Guatemala, and this company le cede the rights of contract and
Starting point is 01:21:46 the, pardon, of exploration and exploitation of hydrocarburos. Is that Legacy is the company that receive this contract
Starting point is 01:21:54 and that has the right to exploit all those hydrocarbubors that encounter in Guatemala So, so let me see,
Starting point is 01:22:04 Guatemala, this is a scandal for the country, too, this is a scandal that is a scandal yeah that
Starting point is 01:22:10 it's a international, okay? Here is the protocol this is the protocol where is the protocol where you sell in the rights no,
Starting point is 01:22:20 mirro, session of the rights. Session of a direct, contract of exploration and exploitation and
Starting point is 01:22:26 Explotation of Hydrocarburos. Here, here is all specificed with the company EGFI, which is just the that the Republic to this company of Rocha, the Explotation of Energies and Minas, the Ministry of Energy and Minas, and there's, there is, there is. Explain it.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Now, exactly. What signific to this? is a contract of 25 years to do 25 years for all the oil now okay until here
Starting point is 01:23:03 all legal I'm going to continue to context for that we're for that we'll start because here
Starting point is 01:23:12 this was November of 22. Okay we'll we're saltamos in January 2004 two years after
Starting point is 01:23:19 Raul Rocha anuncia publicly publicly well more more than a year after, because this was in November, 2022,
Starting point is 01:23:26 a year after, a year two months after. Raoul Rocha, annunce publicly that he'll buy MISUniverse, that compra 50% of the organization of the University Inverso.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Who thinks that enter to the organization of Misuniverse as part of the board of members, Mario Buccaro? The socio
Starting point is 01:23:47 Guatemalteco, that he gave all the mines and exploded in the production of Petroleum of Guatemala. Well,
Starting point is 01:23:56 here I'm a pause. In the, in the contracts not appear Mario Buccaro. No, it's
Starting point is 01:24:02 where it's where it's interesting. So, so if you are using the pieces of the
Starting point is 01:24:06 chronogram of this, Javier, there you go. So, the 12 of Nero,
Starting point is 01:24:13 Mirro, Mario was, he was as an first, he, he,
Starting point is 01:24:18 he, he knew a Raul Rocha and he's made then he's he's just when
Starting point is 01:24:25 he does a cancilier Raul Rocha registra a company in Guatemala legacy holding
Starting point is 01:24:29 at the few months when Mario Bucharo is cancler he they give the
Starting point is 01:24:35 session of the contract petrolero so and then after Mario Buccaro
Starting point is 01:24:40 casually terminate in Miss Universe so you're going you're at
Starting point is 01:24:44 the piece of the 2012 the It's a permit environmental
Starting point is 01:24:51 for that Raul Roche explote the posse of the positive and
Starting point is 01:24:56 two days after the 14 of Nero Salie Mario Buccaro of the
Starting point is 01:25:02 Cancelia and he starts with my Juniors all this is
Starting point is 01:25:07 all this is documented if they are seeing as the feches
Starting point is 01:25:14 that to what to what us to this
Starting point is 01:25:16 rompecabes and this lberin of things, Javier. You know in the in the
Starting point is 01:25:24 politics. Raul Rocha and Mario Buccaro. Then make the consigneur to Raul Rocha and here
Starting point is 01:25:31 there is something super, super delicate. For that to check your reputation,
Starting point is 01:25:38 you have to be clean how they did how they're how they're a consul honorific to
Starting point is 01:25:47 an or an orario to Raul Rocha, having the reputation of the casinos. That is what the people have to ask.
Starting point is 01:25:55 And also the government has to have to respond. This is an scandal for Guatemala now not only for Mexico,
Starting point is 01:26:03 but for Guatemala. Sure. This had pegged first with Pemex and had been the
Starting point is 01:26:09 scandal here in Mexico, no? But this now is a level international, to say,
Starting point is 01:26:15 oh, what is what is what is doing, how did a a person with
Starting point is 01:26:18 those antecedents of the assassinate of the casino and then how is how is
Starting point is 01:26:23 that a well if check in here the contract of the company legacy holding
Starting point is 01:26:29 no present the states financial because just because it just he just he doesn't
Starting point is 01:26:34 present states financial and then we don't we don't we have we've got to create
Starting point is 01:26:39 legacy but my company gasiferas of the sub respond the operations
Starting point is 01:26:45 but to be very clear, they're accusing to Raul of Guachicol,
Starting point is 01:26:49 of Guatemala to a city of Mexico and result that they're that's
Starting point is 01:26:53 there are in Rowe Rocha and it's what's quite contract,
Starting point is 01:26:59 this is more than the Pemex. This is much more more
Starting point is 01:27:01 than it's a contract of exploration and exploitation of all the
Starting point is 01:27:06 petrol of Guatemala. So it's immense this, impenso. I think
Starting point is 01:27:12 Rocha is a good, had to have had to have had Because, let's
Starting point is 01:27:18 that between the contract of Pemex and that they they're in a country practically for that do you want, and it's
Starting point is 01:27:26 my Guatemala, for the least had to have to have the final, no? But,
Starting point is 01:27:29 for the but, but a change of that, to who put the CEO to Mario
Starting point is 01:27:35 Bucca? No? How he's going to do the CEO of the MIS Universe to the
Starting point is 01:27:41 man that he gets the contract is an enchufado total, rocha. It's more clear that the Miss Universe
Starting point is 01:27:49 is a lavado of and if it was to tap what there was and that's too too, because he's bad at the final.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Conflicto of interests, nepotism, so conflict of interests, nepotism, put in a person who is political, that is diplomatic, in an industry that has to be
Starting point is 01:28:13 with the diplomacy and with the politics. Well, nothing apparently and that also we can presume or suppone, armando the
Starting point is 01:28:23 rompecabes, that Mario Buccaro took an ingerency very important in that these contracts that were in the government of Yamatei
Starting point is 01:28:31 when Mario Buccar was the right to Yamate and that's all this. This, Javier, maybe,
Starting point is 01:28:37 right, not you can't do you but this will be a scandal a scandal. No,
Starting point is 01:28:43 I'm this I see. I think the Guatemaltecs have to get to the voice
Starting point is 01:28:49 because this is, they're robbing to the whitemaltecos two people who
Starting point is 01:28:53 they're they're a misuniverse so it's something apart the licitation petrolera
Starting point is 01:28:59 has to have a public the country has the companies have to
Starting point is 01:29:04 present what capacity they have of the minerals
Starting point is 01:29:08 and in a country and can't for a conurs
Starting point is 01:29:11 you you can you That is where is the grand corruption of a country. I'll repeat, Rodrigo,
Starting point is 01:29:21 he has to try the problem contundity how Rocha consignee the exploitation of petrolio, hydrocarburo, and all the
Starting point is 01:29:31 minister of Mineria in Guatemala he does a cart Blanca, Rocha, a man
Starting point is 01:29:37 that no had a state financial to demonstrate that could exploit the petroleum
Starting point is 01:29:42 of Guatemala, So now, they'll do for your amistat with who today is the CEO of M.C. A Guatemalteco, political, that with the ex-president, according to the United more corrupt, of the history of Guatemala, they're done
Starting point is 01:29:59 a card to black to have access to total of frontera where they can pass arms, money, and petrolio as if it's a gain for a cartel,
Starting point is 01:30:12 for a government, for an company, this opasca completely to Pemex and the father of Fatima,
Starting point is 01:30:20 that were chiquities in this act of corruption international. Who was the
Starting point is 01:30:28 grand denunciator apart of our channel of YouTube of the corruption of Rocha?
Starting point is 01:30:33 It was a juror who renunciable renuncied Omar Harfush that
Starting point is 01:30:38 is called like the minister of Claudia but in reality is a pianist, composer,
Starting point is 01:30:44 a man a man in the Vatican he had to do the concert of final of the celebration of the Miss Universe
Starting point is 01:30:53 that never was made, Omar Harfush not abried the box in the market hispano
Starting point is 01:30:58 only in our channel of YouTube Javier Seriani. So, it was how Omar
Starting point is 01:31:03 Harfut rompio for all the world us told what he what he
Starting point is 01:31:08 saw what he Here, there fraud. But, sir, and, seigneur, here is with us. The protagonist of
Starting point is 01:31:17 who denunciable that he had said that had to win Fatima Bosch. Senora and seigneur, well,
Starting point is 01:31:26 it's an honor to have to an artist to Omar Harfuch, Libio, Francine, Divanis,
Starting point is 01:31:34 and is in Paris, here with us with us, to be if on the
Starting point is 01:31:39 camera, Omar, welcome to Hollywood. Thank you. Hello. How are you? We are great, Omar. Thank you so much for being here with us. Thank you for inviting me. I was watching your show during... Yes, yes, very, very good, excellent. I was saying that I was watching your show.
Starting point is 01:32:09 I was watching your show. Oh, yes. That's excellent. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Omar Harfuch, why did you
Starting point is 01:32:19 of the jurado of the Miss Universe 20, 25 in Thailand? Omar, why did you leave the being? Because, because, yeah. I understand
Starting point is 01:32:30 a little bit Spanish. When I don't understand, I ask you. I left because, yes, because I saw that there is a fraud. They choose illegally 30 finalists before the start of the voting. As a member of the jury, nobody asked me to come to vote.
Starting point is 01:32:52 And certainly from 136 countries, I asked them to cancel it. They said we cannot cancel it. It's already done. And I understood that everything will be fraud, so I left. He said that he was fraud, that were certain candidates that he said that he had to vote and that nothing, that, that no he
Starting point is 01:33:18 liked that. And that simply, terrible? That for so is it was. Well, but what he said, what he said, what he said, Rocha, you, specifically for who to vote? Rocha,
Starting point is 01:33:33 he told you specifically for who you had to vote for? Yes. Raul Roche asked me to vote for Ms. Mexico a week before the show. A month before, he said he was going to vote for my Mexico. Really? Yes. And you are only eight judges, so, I mean, it's easy to make her win if we are, like, five will vote for her. I didn't accept.
Starting point is 01:34:02 That were eight judges, that you know, five that vote for that person, then he just simply no, no accept. Mark, for you, only did it or he did it, or he did to do
Starting point is 01:34:12 other members of the jurors? If you talked with other members of the jurors
Starting point is 01:34:15 of this theme. I can only answer for myself. I cannot answer for others,
Starting point is 01:34:22 but I know that the two others left. Why they left? Maybe because of the same
Starting point is 01:34:27 reason. That no can't talk for those others, that could talk for him,
Starting point is 01:34:31 but he knows that two voices more were the same
Starting point is 01:34:35 for the one. Omar, Rocha says that he said that no he knows, that he knows who you, that a friend who recommended to put in the juror. Raul Rocha and I, we was on the yacht together.
Starting point is 01:34:47 He appointed me a member of the jury in July, and he asked me to play because he was very impressed by my concert of peace in Vatican. Okay, that's on internet, he has seen photos with Rocha, that he has seen various times and that he said he he talked to talk there because he liked his music of what he did in the Vatican. The question, what I want to ask is, why I was invited to play then, if you don't know me? Okay. Why do you invite me to talk if you don't know me?
Starting point is 01:35:19 The jurors behind you, renunciated too, they're also going to be. What do you think, that could have been for the same case? Some other jury members also quit. Do you believe it was because of the same thing? Everybody knows that it was fraud, even the contestants, the girls they know about it. The princess Cecilia, the Bourbon, the du Cecile, she was supposed to be the present of the jury. She left, and as I know, that she is suing Raú Rocha and Miss Universe. Cecil, I think is also
Starting point is 01:35:58 David Rocha, but that is, of course, that you know, they're not, other members. Omar, among you, the juror, had a favorite, who, for you,
Starting point is 01:36:12 going to win, according what you perceived, of the other members of the juror, because the jurors can't, and more or less, what would have been
Starting point is 01:36:20 the winner if Rocha not had intervened? Which, which candidate you guys believed, was the main many many of the contestants was not allowed to be in the 30 finalists for example Argentina has amazing contestant Peru Chile Puerto Rico a lot of countries was even between the finalists the Philippine was good Venezuela was amazing a lot of
Starting point is 01:36:50 even Paraguay was good but I don't like is that only 30 was a lot of to participate you was supposed to go to go on stage and play like the two are voting but in reality it was not voting so i didn't accept but what everybody see is that fatima is not yes patima is not the most beautiful wow that many of the candidates not were they were, I don't, point, no, not going to pass to the final, between them, Puerto Rico, Argentina, this, it's, only it was a certain group that
Starting point is 01:37:31 they were, that were to have the opportunity, and that, and that, even, that for him, you know, was, not, not the most beautiful. You, Omar, view, a little trot special in Fatima in in all the concertment? All the time, Fatima has her own people to work for her. She was like a superstar. She was like, uh,
Starting point is 01:37:52 the mega star there, she was, she really had all the time special treatment. That all the time, that she had a group of people with her, was like a super starrya. Said that the 30,000, the 30 finalists were already picked up, right? It was... Yes, this is what I discovered. And what I didn't also like about is that I knew that one member of the jury, at least he has a conflict of interest because his girlfriend, Miss Paraguay,
Starting point is 01:38:22 was contestant. Totally, that's what discovered, and that, well, that's even a member of the juror, imagineate that he no-you-de-part of my Paraguay, and that is billionaire, basically. And don't forget that also I showed on my Instagram page
Starting point is 01:38:38 that I flyed from Dubai to Bangkok with the trophy, and on the trophy, the names was written. Wow, he was traveling from Dubai to there, and I think, But he saw the trophies. Yeah, he's in Dubai. This is what he was saying.
Starting point is 01:38:56 If you want to understand, this is the reality. Because Raul, Raul wants, he told me in Dubai, he said, we have to choose a girl that she will fly with me in my private jet the whole year. This is what he was saying. He can go get a woman that could, listen, but this is with the bomb that is, this is a bomb. He could have to be with me in my jet private
Starting point is 01:39:20 all the year. So, that no, I don't want a morena in his jet private? No, no, I don't want. Sen. We're talking of a racism
Starting point is 01:39:30 that, that, he, he, he went to a whewera, with Miss Dinamarca,
Starting point is 01:39:37 but then he didn't want a morena for the color of the color of the he said, it was the
Starting point is 01:39:42 same Raul that he said. This is another bomb. I don't know what I can't believe, signor,
Starting point is 01:39:47 wow. Contra one that has a lot of him not this is very great for.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Omar, the mission of a Miss Universe is represent the woman
Starting point is 01:40:00 in mandatarios, leaders, foundations, hospitals, how with this poor credibility
Starting point is 01:40:08 a president receive a Fatima now with this
Starting point is 01:40:13 scandal because a president can say Why I have to receive a Miss Universe that has a scandal
Starting point is 01:40:21 of narcotrifice to it's difficult represent a market or mandatarios that not want to insufferces with the narcotrifice or arms not is
Starting point is 01:40:33 not easy for Fatima is content in New York now, yeah happy and the people will be adorer but then to complete the role of Miss Universe
Starting point is 01:40:43 will be difficult It's impossible. Because any meeting with any president, it means that all the media, the press, will speak about trafficking, money laundering, about all this matters. So no normal president can expose himself to this. It's not possible. I think that she is a rich girl. They will spend money on her to visit capitals like New York, like, Washington, maybe she can travel to Denmark, to Paris, but only as a tourist because she cannot really have the real role of Miss Universe, which was done very good by Victoria, the miss of the last year. She was received everywhere by President's Prime Minister because she was
Starting point is 01:41:32 clean girl. She was without any scandal. I don't know if she was elected legally or not, but as she don't have scandal, so it was normal. But now it's impossible. And I think that many presidents can receive with honor the other miss, Amalfi, Costa Amalfi, because she was elected by the populations, by the people, and they like this kind of stories. Her story is much more beautiful than the story of Fatima. She is from Africa. She come from Cote d'Ivoire, Abidjan. She is a powerful woman
Starting point is 01:42:12 She was discriminated She was victim of racism All this make from her a symbol Claro Well, what he said That's that Fatima Bosch No, he can't have a career Limpia
Starting point is 01:42:28 Well, that has a scandal So, every president that Receive will have to have that mark, that mancha For what she is a a seniorita of a family rica
Starting point is 01:42:41 that better to take to visit in cities like New New York thank for
Starting point is 01:42:46 for being for this exclusive thank you so much Raul Rocha president
Starting point is 01:42:57 of the Miss Universe is the justice the justice the justice he put as a
Starting point is 01:43:01 testigo he does and obviously he has to collaborate
Starting point is 01:43:07 Soplaar, to say, who's more were in the organization criminal of the lavado of money, traffic of arms, traffic of drugs, all that was going to to go to his but, as a testigo, obviously,
Starting point is 01:43:22 it's a liberty. But not kept in liberty to their money because the government, who vigiles the ganances financial of the people,
Starting point is 01:43:34 he congela his accounts bankarias to investigate until that we know if really there was or no,
Starting point is 01:43:42 there's things, between that investigation of congelation of accounts, it could fall that
Starting point is 01:43:49 if the misuniverse has been a lavado of inero. If it's a lavado money,
Starting point is 01:43:55 the misuniverse, because also there was the CEO of the Miss Universe,
Starting point is 01:44:02 the Guatemalteco that he did the trespaso of frontera to
Starting point is 01:44:06 obviously in Miss Universe is involved until that that's the money of Raul Rocha will be to get a
Starting point is 01:44:12 new to know what you know what was you know what came what we know
Starting point is 01:44:18 what we we are we're we're knowing after now what has happened
Starting point is 01:44:26 and what will be to happen this this is this will continue my
Starting point is 01:44:35 conclusion is that in reality we don't know who will terminate buying the Miss Universe someone has been to
Starting point is 01:44:45 buy a company of Costa Rica, it's about someone is that Adriana Cisnero
Starting point is 01:44:51 of Venezuela and the DJ Jan Luca who who should should be to buy
Starting point is 01:44:57 this franchise is a New York is an company North American and
Starting point is 01:45:02 will be audited and with with the United what's what's
Starting point is 01:45:08 what you should be a lot of a day that's where you where you today
Starting point is 01:45:17 is 24 of December you should be asking what is
Starting point is 01:45:21 what is the most important in the life and not me
Starting point is 01:45:24 don't me don't the family the affect that's that
Starting point is 01:45:27 that's making the people that's the people are the the
Starting point is 01:45:33 who are because those because you're going to you're going to have to want to you're going
Starting point is 01:45:37 to be the family and also those who not are that are so entraeable and that
Starting point is 01:45:44 are so important in our life. What is the best the most
Starting point is 01:45:50 woman the woman most she's the miss universe
Starting point is 01:45:55 if not you don't you serianita look if you not you
Starting point is 01:46:00 you're you And you're, lavas, planchas, or maybe not, just you're and you can't have someone that you help. And you're just eight hours minimum. And you're going, and you're
Starting point is 01:46:15 you guys, and lavas, and also crias to your children or you're trying to control to your children adolescents. The function of a woman today has has been so important.
Starting point is 01:46:29 The woman is so important for a family, for a company, for a country, look if you're not you're not
Starting point is 01:46:38 the miss that the world needs. The beauty who says that you have to
Starting point is 01:46:43 have to have a naris and not the naris grueza why have to have the
Starting point is 01:46:49 hair and not of another because a color is more important than
Starting point is 01:46:55 other because you have to come as they can come
Starting point is 01:46:59 Because one can't a few with the can't a lot of working a lot of times
Starting point is 01:47:05 we're always we're because we're we're a few chuecos and a sometimes we
Starting point is 01:47:11 know we have been with the chueka or we we're we're back of the
Starting point is 01:47:14 cabo who who is the woman the woman four five
Starting point is 01:47:20 people people of the jurado a committee the
Starting point is 01:47:25 the social no so so I think in this Naviad, and for
Starting point is 01:47:30 so I want to do this special in this Naviidad, because for me the most important this year is rescatar that
Starting point is 01:47:38 the women have been the protagonists that this type of concursos for me should be
Starting point is 01:47:44 because the woman, not we can't think it's because the woman is much more than a bikini and
Starting point is 01:47:52 that I want to this Navi to all of those women that are preparing your house,
Starting point is 01:48:00 of the robita of the children, the tues, the tusson. To all the pansones that me
Starting point is 01:48:05 can, look to that serianita that you in your house, because it is very
Starting point is 01:48:12 difficult to find a a woman that me unconditionally with
Starting point is 01:48:17 all the activities that you during the year, or maybe because you've
Starting point is 01:48:20 can't because you're a little arisco, a little uranio or a
Starting point is 01:48:24 sometimes you can but there your mother to pardon. I want to you to give to
Starting point is 01:48:29 all those that today valor in what they have to that's that's
Starting point is 01:48:36 that's that's his wife that's abel that that's that way, and how
Starting point is 01:48:43 those we're we're we're and those people and they know many
Starting point is 01:48:47 things. For so I you're to do to that today I'm
Starting point is 01:48:51 yeah, yeah, do you, do you, but more than to cook and more
Starting point is 01:48:55 to colgar the decorados, and more than, if you have a gift of all, enjoy this day, do you, enjoy this day, and you're going to be, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:16 in the States of the family, we're with the family, we're going to, and the friends that we've got, or the Amigos that our immigration also are our
Starting point is 01:49:25 family. So with tangito here and with all the team of this channel
Starting point is 01:49:30 marvellousos that we have done a day all the year, is a much
Starting point is 01:49:35 sacrifice with this decorado beautiful, I want to want to the
Starting point is 01:49:40 good and the most nice nice special than other
Starting point is 01:49:45 years? Because me you have to me, because I have to you,
Starting point is 01:49:49 and because I going to be thinking in today, this night when
Starting point is 01:49:52 it's a time. I'm sorry. I'm the love that me did the
Starting point is 01:49:57 questions, the support, me went to see the products, me did
Starting point is 01:50:02 super chat, me did chismes, me opinst, me critiqued, me did
Starting point is 01:50:08 me did you, and me did you know. You've did youvertiste and you did you did not
Starting point is 01:50:14 the bombas you're you're you're so you we're to bring this
Starting point is 01:50:19 night all together and when today in the night or now
Starting point is 01:50:25 after a last little you remember that the guero and the agla
Starting point is 01:50:30 was with you and the best we're we're we're very special
Starting point is 01:50:35 of someone that we we we're we we
Starting point is 01:50:41 and we we we and we we we is the woman
Starting point is 01:50:46 that more Rite us also one of the cases more
Starting point is 01:50:50 the 2025, without one of the things most difficult
Starting point is 01:50:56 of the year to get to a new a nuer that
Starting point is 01:51:02 makes people in the house and that and that
Starting point is 01:51:04 drug dealers to the door I'm about Maribel I'm
Starting point is 01:51:14 put a for all you put on your arbol
Starting point is 01:51:17 of YouTube. Maribel Guardia, let me send a special to this channel, a one servitor, and to all the serianitas.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Maribel Guardia, a salute special of Navidat for all the serianitas and pansoncito.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Salus, Felis, Navid. And we're Maribel, Guardia, for the first in this
Starting point is 01:51:39 channel. Let me. Oh, ho! Thank you, Seriani and all the serianitas. I want
Starting point is 01:51:47 to give us my more sincerer of peace, desiring that this time of reflection chen
Starting point is 01:51:52 his own his own, love, and benditions, a brazo full of fraternity for Seriani and
Starting point is 01:51:58 that this 2026 get carried of success, health, suingos for all the followers
Starting point is 01:52:04 and for those who am. Those your friend, Maribel Ward.
Starting point is 01:52:15 I'm I'm going to

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