Javier Ceriani - Romina honra a Dulce en su primer aniversario luctuoso - La ruta de la payola y sus involucrados

Episode Date: December 25, 2025

Romina Mircoli recuerda a su mamá, Dulce, en un testimonio profundamente emotivo, lleno de amor y dolor, al cumplirse un año de su partida. Comparte los últimos momentos que vivieron juntas y la fortaleza que la cantante mantuvo hasta el final de su vida.Además, Jorge Reynoso revela experiencias que dejan al descubierto el lado más crudo y oscuro de la industria del entretenimiento.Por otro lado, Marcelia Figueroa rompe el silencio sobre Imelda Tuñón, mientras que Mayela Laguna sacude al medio al confirmar su relación con Gustavo Adolfo Infante, paralizando a la industria del espectáculo. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Thank you. Today. to look back and record. Because there are usencers that are thinking,

and numbers that still are still they're with a nod in the garganta. And one of

them is the Duce, the cantante. Ace a year, Kulse we've done was done,

Dehanceo, and it made, to give, to you know, her partida not only just left

a vacio, also a stela of memories that they're going like photographs

that's some their Risa, her energy, a way so particular to connect with the people,

over all with their songs that have left a way. In the world of the stories that pass

rapid and the titulares that change day a day, Dulce permane. Her record still appear

in conversations, in the clips, and in anecdotes that when we're that's that we're

there's a little in it, that meskla of sensibility, character, and the that simply

not you forget, and that never will be abackar. Today, all complete of his first

anniversary luptuos, we don't we're about the desperies, we're about the

legate, of how his life took to to the people, and

how his passes still still still because DULse not

all this this for her, for her, for her history

and for all the people that they're with people,

because when when those borr, only he's to look with a little

more of a little more more of love, for always, Dulce. Impresionate,

no, the skin me makes chinita. A year exactly here, I was

I was I sat down the breaking news, as always primitia that the the cantante, Dulce,

had been to this world. We're going to record that moment, because, to really, after today, I'm impression to hear me. Well,

Triste in the spectacle, and for those that we knew us, and we loved, for her

joy, for his smile, one of the one of the cantants more great that has

had been Mexico, tremendous a, tremendous companionia, had texted

with I was a little bit. I was in the hospital grave. Seniors, Dulce, is this world. It was very, very,

very, well. It was with operations and and operations and I have to confirm yes, Dulece,

this, this day 25. And, well, a triste in a very, very,

two, December of the Navi, Duce, we're, we're, all the things that

We talked about and you and you understand of this world of the

spectacle and a peace the world of the spectacle

always you will remember you well and today

is a day so important 25 December I decided

to have a protagonist absolute of the life

of Duce was controversial her was the the

The of Dulce, a scandal that it was all the year, I remember that we commons about this, and Romina, Mircoli, the daughter of Dulce, the mom of the nieto, was very criticated because, well, obviously, no is a bellatorio-abirto, because no most her the cadaver of Dulce.

And, finally, Romina, will be to be today with us to how were the last days of Dulce in the hospital, how his body consumed, why decided no belar her. And all what was after that Dulce disappeared in that hospital,

we're going to have, now, in exclusive, a Romina Mircoli, the daughter of Dulce, rompe the silence, and will reveler data very of what was

before that Dulce What he saw his nephew? How was the decess, and how was decided, in function to the flaquita that had had been, disminuited, physically? It's impressive.

Let's see. Well, Romina, we'd have, because today is 25 of December, of 2025, and it's a year nuptuos

of the death of Dulce, the cantante, your mom. The Naviad is a and a legree enormous for all, but they're in the absences like

to nobody, no? I took to give the news in a breaking news, I remember that day, suspend it in Navidavit and announce the death, that, as a person that we'd everyone, we'd all. Well, Triste

Christmas for the spectacle and for those that we'd love us, for his joy, for his smile, for his sonrisa, descends in peace. One of the the one of the cantantes most grand is great

great company-era Descanza in Pace One of the cantates most grandes great-granda-migua, tremendous, she had textied with her a little,

she was in the hospital Grave, Senora of Seniors, Dulce, she went of this world. It was very, very, very, well,

and it was with operations and operations and I have to confirm that, He felled this, this day 25. And, well, a Triste notice in a Fecha very, very, very dixemble of the Naviad.

Dulce, we're we're we're, we're one of the things of the year. I've never seen many videos with a lot rating, with much preoccupation for the people. The death of your mom impact of a form that I don't see in other artists, no?

And the Sylvia Pinal, I'll say, why you think you? And then you tell you, you know the 25, or moved the 26? Muriel the 25, or moved the 26?

She was, she, she, of actually, was pronounced a month, officially at at the 9 o'clock, if,

man, I don't know, I remember. She, she, moved the 25, she, she, she,

did she, was pronounced died officially at 9 of the morning, if I don't know, I remember. But I, you know, I talked to in this moment. I feel that it was a connection so, so, mother, and, her, and he said,

I feel that, I was trying to do not, and I had passed all that night since I'm not. Because my mom was having much difficulty to breathe, it was very difficult the night. I tried to do a little just after that a

friend and mom, that's called Med, had been to a little and he had gone. And it were like

six of the morning when I was trying to and I remember that a rattit and I desperate

with a tachycardia puertisima like at seven of the morning and it were like at

time when I was trying to and I remember that I was and I with a

tachycardia a fortisima like at the 7 of the morning more or less or a thing so that

you don't the air and the heart in the heart in the pecho and then obviously

I don't know that was happening that's I'm I'm I've done

I'm don't have done I'm I'm fighting here against a

problem that that's really that's the reality that of the

cancer is something so I'm so of that situation, simply like the canstance or the stress, my body can't more. And I've got to

respirate and respirate on. And try to concentrate in Romina, you need to be. And at the 8th of the morning, this,

pardon, eight and a minute was that went to the doctor. And I said, Berta, then they'd the light and

hello, Berta, good days. And I, all those days, the first that in the morning was to

see to look to see to my mom. Because my mom in that moment, yeah no, you know, all those days,

the first thing the first thing was to do the time. Because my mom in this moment, yeah no, yeah,

not really that was the first that was here, was the first to be able to to be the back to be the back,

and at the light, I'm going, the doctor, not you're saying, you know, you're going to you're saying,

you're doing, what we're resucitamos, because yeah they've been firmed, papers of no resuscitation

forced, and the and I was I was I was going to how my mom had been so much

and I'm he got the egoism and I'm he got to the egoism to say it to try

try to please try it for favor intend it one once and for that they

they were in the cargheron no I don't remember how it's a machine that's

a bivrador or no how it's what's it's resuscit And now no, no,

not, resuscital and now no, no, no, not put that's

when it's at the nine of the morning. Wow, but I feel in retrospective,

and when I'm going, I go, that that was the moment that I felt that I

thought, I'm going, I'm sure that there was when she was when she went. I'm sure

that was when she went. When sent you the tachycardia. Wow, that's that. I don't know that.

You never have you have told this. Very very, what you're saying. What connection. I never, never, never had been told because I feel a a very personal. I feel that's a detail that is something that is something that is something of you.

And I feel that no, no, in all those spaces, It's a sometimes this platica fluid this

a platica where I don't I'm not I'm not I'm feel like if I'm

should I'm in a santa inquisition caused by men of people with

so bad with that bad with that bad that's that's

something that also that also for example there there there there

agredited, to have repeated, mentira, infurias, of all, to believe, to a real level enormous to the contraparte, to have barried, trapeated with my and then they want to you to give a space and that,

and the truth is that no. I feel that the only person with that I, with that I had to confront, that way, post-incialment to you? I feel that the only person to the, with that I had to that way,

post-incialment to you? And I, I think, that if I yeah I believe to you respect to you're

a person that is a person who not is saying not says one thing and you not you're

not you're someone that I say now I'm going to say even if you're

even if you you're even if you have to denunciate you you know and you

did you this sir me this person me put this new I don't I don't sincerely

that I have to say this with nobody else. So, I thank you also because this communication

that I have with you today is because you're because he's done with this respect that I have to

and for the respect that even in the questionament me took correct. Because I said, I

began to perceive what had passed for the death of Duce and one of the accusations

very strong that you did, that when I saw a photo that I could

to get, it's so that is the brazo of your mom, a photo that you saw that the bracito of your mom was more chico than the brother of your son. What is what is what is, and also the

friends of your mom that, they've saw the, the body of Dulce totally diminished. Not was to show her in a bellatorio

popular, nor to show a Dulce that was coquetta, a dulce that always he's always his peal

her hair her vestiges was a woman that never she was she was she was

she was because she she didn't that she didn't and it's well every one

does what want she doesn't and not she was and she she didn't and she

didn't even she didn't with the inion but she not knew she had metastasis

that she She also didn't know that it was cancer, well, initially with the lignol, but she didn't know that had metastasis. No, no. And it was like, because, of a gulf, how, how did it turn to,

in diminuiless, a little? I mean, it was, in segued it. It started, that at the beginning of November, it was with problems, yeah, very grave, of what she thought,

that, of a newmone, or asuntos respiratory, but no see now consumed, what one intends for a person consumed for that's a new. There are certain types of cancer, between you's the of the

lung, I'm also that the legado, there are some of the cancer, that consume the person with much a major velocity. And so it's that one of, if not is that the more rapid is the of the pulmon, my mom, it's,

in, in a sombra, in what she was, in a month, in a less, a month, a less,

a men, terrible, no. This, a, um, a bracito, that was more more chico,

is that we're, we're talking of a diminution of muscle muscular and deterioration physical, that not was a dulce. Yeah, no it was that the public be it. For what, so it was

that we're going to see us. No, Javier, that's not too, the dulcels, and that wasn't the mother that I, don't know the mom that I was accustomed to. Tepoced,

I don't know the mom that I was accustomed to. I mean, I, I was I, I, a, a, a, a, she's, she was a, her, her to her, her to eat her, to eat, or so, is a thing,

that's a thing that, and you see the suffering, and you know, you know, you can't think that your mother, that was, all in the world, to,

terminate so, So, you know you can't think. Termin' as it. No,

you know you can believe. And it's very, you know, one of the moments

of the really, that's very difficult. It's to get to the hospital

without you. No, you know, cargars the bolza, cargats, the covita that I

brought and you can't believe what is going without her. My father.

See what cruel was all. How many people said, that me felted to you know what I did my mom still in life. No,

me saw what I did my mom still in the and what I did in the hospital that not so that all of that

nobody who knew. Because the public extranava, but you're extranees to your mom, the that was that was

because it was because there's audios that they're and the that was the life for you because in

definitive you and his nieto were all there was nothing. I think in the

I was that his friends not were that some people maybe, but Dulce

knows that the life of the artists are counted, the people that... That people, yeah not didn't even, my mom. No, they're not. That people, yeah, not in my mom.

No, they're not. Ophelia, not the life of my mom. This other senior, not had three years, of not, to not be. Wow,

yeah. Total. To really, that's impressive. So. Dulce, when was the last that was the

last time that you remember that you you did that your the last

interaction with her she? Yes. We did an opportunity to get an opportunity

to get to the area where in reality So, the Enfermos that have certain quadros, yeah, very grave. And, well, the recommendation is that no, not vans, not vans,

because, well, are propens, oh. Yes. Well, they're vulnerable, no? And, this, and, and, well, the innocence, no, of what is a young, obviously, he no, that he was,

that he was, he was when, it was when, I still had my mom could be able to be to the camera, and then my mom had a diet special. And he still, he's to eat all the food of her. And my mom,

knowing that that's exclusively what she had to eat, she was, she was happy, that he was, that he was to eat what she had to eat. And it's, it's a difficult, because it's a moment of of the gosso absolute, that you see my mom very

and that was very happy, that no he important about nothing. And at the same time, to know my mom no, no, I didn't need to be, and that needed that. And it was a thing very difficult. With the alimentation,

my mom had many in the, in the garganta, they'd have done various trattements, and I felt that he'd that he'd the ophab.

So, so it was, it was a, the issue of the food, she got to put to put parental, that is a

through the vener. She was a point where they had to put to put an alimental, that's a through the

but well, her could do, a little there. No, it was

five days, because, pardon, no, no, no, so.

He was going five days to the hospital, because in that We didn't know that she was not going to go out. And when we gave the pro-nostic, that we said that the most probable is that we'd have to pass on the hospital

and that my mom, or maybe to try to get to go to house in January or, or maybe February, was that we said, no, can't be here in Chikilin, no? So, then, well, she's regress with her father, Monterey,

and, well, I'm kept in the hospital to Jeno in Mexico. I moved there, and much people, me said, to get to go to do not. I mean, I'd dream. There, I, arraestre, the sofa that they'd in those rooms, I was the most of the camera, and there was I.

Day and night, I never. I don't know. I have... In my heart, with the the pain and all the horrible that I have lived. I have a feeling I've got to be able to. I've been there until the final. That's, that's, that's, that's a

pass. And, and, and, how your his, or, how, what objects, objects, or, no, so, photos, a question, or you, what you, what you did you? I mean, I had a lot of,

how, how, about that thing with him, because one never knows how they're to reaction to the children. And much people me said,

Romi, he'll go to a child and tell, and until that I opted for that for to have a

child infantil. But, was much more, I suppose that the is fluid

of what I think he he had seen to his abuelita in the hospital. I,

at the In the initial, no, no, I could say, then in all that time, I said, your abolita, doorme much. And I'd even, even though she not was a time, because today, no is an edad of Isis, muri, oh, it's more

a year old, for nothing. Or, in the re-nacement, yes, but, but right not. So, I don't know, he said, is that your ablita is very great, like to go to go, because I don't know I was, I was

about. He said, is that he'd say, he'd be much, and, he, de He said, he went to ask him a couple of occasions. He said, he said, Mom, I dole dolecee,

he's a moret. And, of the solito, me go to ask him to a couple of occasions. He said, he said, Moma, I dolea, dolecea, I'm dead. And in two occasions,

he cenned the garganta and the two times he's not, because I don't I had I the force in that moment to say to let you, and then I, too, and then, I do you,

yeah, after the the help of the other, because he said what we said, that's a little bit now is an angel little bit,

is an angelito, he's going to be able to us, we're going to not quite from the above.

And the the best input that we could give was that religious and the continuity

at the that we will be to the world and the the new the

reality of the children is very different in that in that moment he he looked

to be he said he said abu abu where Abu! Oh no, my life.

No, no, I can't believe. That's that the kids are so so so intelligent. That's what you're what you're telling. Wow, that's

and it was pretty because I needed I needed to, you know, that you're

you're going that you're in a where he's not sube the water. I needed to be that he was good. And then for me, it was very important

to be that he could assimilar and it was similar much better than I. Oh, what was? Yeah, until the day of today the way in the way in that I

can lead with it is simply think that's of a voyage, that is is in another other other side.

And, you know that's the good because I'm think that

is to be to hear and and feel in the sky. I'm

think that yeah, I'm to be to hear and in the sky and

that's other side, we're going to care. And, but I

also have received blessings Javier my mom, the 25 that

passed on 25 of I know to Mr. Gerardo. Well, no, I don't know. I was a little bit of this circle, because I had

known for so much time. No, no, I was a much time. He had been in a group of people. And the 25

was that we know in the conciencia, that's him he came to me, and he said, Romi, not

you know, you know, I know your mom's of much and all this and so, and he established the contact

for that he represented to the day, well, well, until the day of the day of the way.

And me, oh, oh, so. So, I mean, one can decide how to see or not these things, and I look like a gift my mom, an aid that my mom,

an aid that she me matto. That's nice, that's great. And you think that your mom this year it's manifested in some moment, sent you that this year you've had some moments so, this, rarous, spiritual.

Yes, yes, because, because I think those messages, well, yes, because I think that those I think those messages to the maybe, various of us as people, when we have a

person, when we have a period, and we'll want to receive to have the heart are open to detect them. For example, in some point that, also a person with who I'm am very much I'm very excited with Lolita of the Vega, also, me, me, I,

now, so, me have apached, me has tended to the man, me has regaled her carino. In some point I was I with her. And, this, we went to comeer. She, she, with her husband. They're living in the US. And, and me invited to be with them

some days to be able to bejure me a little. And so I'm aggrisko infinitely. And we're coming. And in the States, in the middle of the restaurant, and of the, of the. I heard a, a person that was looking to a someone who had made a reservation, and they were

a number of Dulce, and they were gritted, Dulce! Dulce! And I don't know. That not is the only sweet in the world, for the I'm not,

but are things that the life put in front and you decide how you want to take. That's how that's great,

that's for me it was very beautiful because I said, no? I mean, and so,

and so, and so, and so, then, then, then, this, I think,

one can say, one can say, it's a casuality, and yeah, and at the more is, and at the

more, but it It's a more and me does more light and me I'm more force and me

I'm a smile to think that that I'm that

it's she is she she yeah yeah yeah no

no passed no It's a lot, but it's only a year. And this is, this is, I say, and me said, and I said, all of me said, Roby, you have to have got to get it because this is for your life.

This is for all your life. And so, are, is, are some, are the people that have passed for this and I have to, I have to understand it. I said when you were critiquing and you don't want to give any interview, I said, you know, you, you know, you,

you know, you're, you know, artista, no, I'm model, no, I'm not so the daughter of someone who can't, and I said, I remember what I said, you, Romina, until the day that you're

going to be the child and your son's, and your son, will be the nieto of Dulce for all the life. And that is something that's not going to to change, never. This, for that I think

that you've got to assume that role in the media and all, because you're the daughter of Dulce. And on someone that's a big and so popular, because the death of Dulce, I think, was one of the more of the farangle that the most impacted in the last years. I think that was one of the

ferales that the most impacted in the last years. You know, more. Yeah, and you know, and you have a reason. And I'm, and I'm sure that many things that were very disagradable, in some way, they're doing that that also was so contundant, no, but, but I think that what is, what he generated, I think,

I'm so, is that all, it's that all of us, all we're saying, but is that She was very, it was a little. Or is that I was presenting, so it's that he can't tell, because she's not, it was very, very, very, so. She was a decess, and she inspired

fortaleza. I had been a year with Adela Misha, you know, that he said, I'm so so soluble, no? And that Adela le cheule about the and that beauty and that juvenile that I had, said, but is that I'm a good,

is that, it's that really it was for everyone it's but so in the life

is the cancer how you're going to live this night of

how you're to live these days morning how you

you're what you expect of the fans how do you how do you

think to what would the best the best the best

the mom. Well, of the first I want to say that the fans

more than to pay them what I have to thank you to give them too even I've

been in contact with the club of fans and and me has helped

because a past of that I want to they're all the beautiful

to say we're going to let's do this, we're even the house

of the house of the It was the club of fans. And me said, Romi, want to have your approbation. Me, they're asking, me they're giving, me saludan,

Romi, how do you? So, so it's very beautiful. I have to thank you. All what they've done and all what they're doing, and they're saying, your mom,

we're not going to get. So, so, the contrary, I have to thank you, and I'd like to thank you.

much. Also, because I sometimes I do a way to say, a little to say,

I don't say, for example, the birthday my mom, it was very very difficult. And in

that moment, no, they're, but I don't force to them. Total. I'm,

I'm going to my mom me, it would have done in a parpadeo. So, to them

to appreciate them infinitely. I've said various times that the there are two, the physics and the the death of the record. And the people that want my mom, the people that still that's in their heart, the people that was her

a friend, of their, thanks to them to live, to them. A time, I'll have to have a word, an anecdote, an anecdote,

a comment a commenter beautiful, a record that me compartan, to see them with the music of her, because that

that would have been the legad that my mom would have liked. That the people still singing years

after that that I don't say, look, what I said, look at my career, let's this great way.

And that way without the fans no can't be. They're what that makes live for you and

for all. What did with many? Coyard, how do you know, I have

one, zapato, that house iconica that was I was I was for the

interview in that house came to two people to want to

want to come it's a car really good good

a good location in a and so the and

many and the quadros of your mother. You could resolve a

little that or not? Well, see, fiat that, this,

no, no, not you, well, it's been, so, so,

so, so I'm to take it to that discretion and with that, and with

that prudency, that are things that are mentioned, are of people,

of people of people very intentioned, but When they were to part of the

Vaya of the city of Matamoros that's a city Natal for

me said Romi we have the museum of Rigo Tobar we

would see the possibility to do your mom so

so that me what I could say Javier the

better because no there no no there final

more for those things that are in a museum

dedicated to that the people can see that the Because those fans

are to continue connecting with her. So, it would be a

wonderful if could to get to work. Obviously I don't I can confirm it

because it's a beautiful that's me expressed and if I

do you ask to you to the life is that that would be,

it would be a way a way to honor to and even

that his recuvers have a A place physical. A place. No, he has Juan Gabriel, it has, well, Rigo, and

tantos. Why not? Dulce, the cantante of Mexico, for favor. Apart, those vestiges that are so iconic of her, they're in her mark, it's a dulce in those vestiges, not are any of any

and his jollery, that not is of valor, so, diamante, but is the look of Dulce. It's not that Dulce, he liked that type of hoagheria, that's good.

So, well, what good would be. I'd like to be. Oh, I see, I mean, when it's something that will be a serious,

I'm going to be the more happy to be able to share this with you, invite us to the inauguration and,

Vaya, I'm going to be the most to be to be that notice. For a right,

it's a, it's a idea, it's a hope, so, we're, we're,

we're, we're with the vibras for that's concrete. I think that's the best gift of the best desire for this year fluctuoso

of dulce this day 25 to think in that, in record to forever, no? The artists

are to get to get us. The real artists, no. No, they're not,

forever. From Elvis Prelay to the grandes that the greats that took in Mexico.

So, I think, my My mom was a very, very fan of the Beatles and of Freddy Mervuey and all you know, and many of the things that, I don't know, and one of the things that I was one, I was one, I'm a record of, this, she, she, when she, when she's, when she said when she said when she said,

that in that moment, it was to make the covers of the videos in Spanish. Oh, my God. She was, so, like, that, hey, you, I did one thing, I don't know what, to pass her well, to pass her well, and

me told these things, and we would have died of a rizabeth, no? Of that, and it's that, as you the good music, not only tracient time, transcends

generations, tracienda, tracient, she was nutri- of those artists immortals, my Beattel, I, Mercury,

but not me imagine about so rock-star, but... Yeah, but... Yeah. Yeah, she had

I canted balleros, but the music that she liked was, it was like, you know, the raya, as we mentioned us, Freddy Mercury he was loved, and one of his favorites also was Christopher Cross. The Vigis, he loved

to all the of the 70, no? So, um, so, I mean, I, I mean, I, had, I, didn't, I, had, many gusts. He had a good, yes, because she was an artiste

really, Seniors, with so famous that's that's a lot of people,

but there's many many. And your mother was a great

artist, it's very very very very because they're

some artists and be a bad people, bad

people, but it's good in all. And she

never always she she and I'd say, and I'd write, and I'd comment about the investigations, and, well, we've got many things for to talk.

We'll join them on a day. But many, many, many, many years. So it's like, I'd say, I'd like to say, I'd like to say much, much, much, much time. But I think, yeah. I think it's, I think, I think, they'd, and I think,

personal, neither, I think those that we've passed for this, it's something that, I insist, not it's for always, but it's just to also to say that as a music, as a artist, that's

it also will be for always. Yeah, and that also there are great cantants and grand, of that tachia, like,

mujer-o-na's, to all-d-do-dard, we're seeing that every there's less. Umy, Well, your marido, Moises, also has suffered a embate durissom,

because, if you know, the people know that Romina is the but Moises was the director musical and with who I'm, that I'm, that I'm an actor, when you're the scenario with, on someone, it's like to live much lives, no? That two hours, three hours of concert with a director musical, with a ballerine,

with a musician, are intense. It's how it's like they're in family, no? And it

and it's that's all the family suffered this obscency Moise, Vos,

the my mom my mom adorable Moises. Yes, but I'm going to

say a thing that to the maybe a little boba, but I'm going

to tell what I'm my mom of Moises in the hospital. Oh, dare

, She was, she, she was to, say, a, a, a, a very apreted, the voice, with much difficulty. And it was just when, um,

my new and Moises expirred of her to return to Monterey, and I kept with her, no? And so, in that moment,

my mom me said, Romina, Moises, is very good man, very good man.

You need to get to get in Baby, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Always, my mom, my mom, look, even in the moment more difficult. The humor. It was a sense of the humor. No, because, for your mario, for your marido, was to get

without his artist, without his spectacle, because a spectacle armado by Moises, and, well, nothing, um, we're,

all the years, we're, to, you're, so, this is the first, is the first of many of many. I had to have you. I'm like, in a day like today, an interview with you in the

the best of me can pass. Thank you. For me, it's also a cycle this year and you can say that this, this, this, this, it's, it's, it's a very much too,

that we'll share us together. Thank you. And so, And I'm sure that I feel that Dunce is with us in this, in this interview, is here, is content and is happy that, of that we're going to let's record us because you know that it's justice for her, justice for you, that also, that's too well,

that's the podcast that is so great, has been thought in her to, for, to start this year, because for me was one of the things most important D'Ulse, you

and a story that still not terminate but I know that I did a

day to thank you you won the name of her that we

could clean front to all the audios and aborations

and accusations and the circus we we we

we But what has to be recorded by Dulce, that is, and it's a great artist. And you, you're, and you're, you're, and you're, and that's a nieto, this,

he's, see, see aubela, in angelitos, in estrethes, and, well, be serious with this.

Because your, the career of your mom was the Nenel Konde, is the artist. So, so, you can, you know,

with, Recording it. And we have to honor it as it's a matter as well, because if we're not we're not parted, when we're to make us in the same o's, we're parted. Yeah, no, I think that never we must have

in the same oya when, on, especially when we're even the people, no? So, there's, from the, from the, to the objective, to the most objective, no?

And, thanks for you to have always that capacity to be that, to extend the man, even if, and then, for example, you're saying,

but why, what's what's going to and I'm going to and I'm going to and I'm going to say, and I'll tell you, I'm in private, but

you know right and with who I'm going to listen because it's to thank you, that the

opinion public changed a part of that the, of the possibility that I would be talking to

and so people that me said that not to say, that with Javier, no, I don't know what, and,

and, so, and, so, that's demonstrated to be the assythe more grand. A part of that, that

he gave the possibility of that I would be able to talk to talk to that, that no, that

with Javier, no, and that's what, and so that's about, that's the accierto more grand.

So, I, I'm with all the humilded, of your great work periodistic,

and of and the intelligence that you have to say, I'm here there's a

there's a person that with to make a lot what this will be going to

get to get to where the the vent and where it's so

and also also also that very at the

people yeah had created that and the people

still saying but how how you never you

never never never chaste a I don't know what I've said, I hope that I'm going to be

talking about about Romina because the people don't, you know, you know, you know, I've seen what

what's going to be what's going to and see here the and I'm you know and I'm

and for me that's a gift that you did you did you so talking of the thanks.

Thank you. No, thanks for the confidence Romina, I know perfectly those that

you called to say don't with Javier and you you're still your heart, nothing. We're not our friends.

It was more easy to get more rating, to convert it in a villain but I no fault

to the truth, that I did what I, I investigated, and I came to

a conclusion that who are who were here who were doing done to

and today to one In a year, we see in the justice, in what they're doing Alicia, in what they're doing to other persons that they did, and that with you, I don't me equivoke it. And, at times, it's the way more easy, no? Because it would have been better or more rapid, to continue to the other form.

But I don't, no, I can, no, I don't, I don't. I have to go to the fact, or the people don't like, or not me convenes. Because I want to have credibility in the years and during the years. So I said that I did what I did what I did what I did what I did do, that is to give you. And you both you got it because you've got to your alma, how do you do? What do I do? What I do? What I do your heart.

The public is what the only that of the people that here appear in a Zoom, in an interview that's that they're going to from. And you did you did and you've got. So that's my recommendation

for all the famous for all those who are now suffering an opinion public. This is also a grand apprenticeship of the

industry of 2025 because the social are lapidaries or they're notating or defending a Fatima or destroying

to the Miss Universe but it's part of the new world. No, we're not we're not we're not going, we know how, but this also was with you, a great apprenticeship, that I think the periodists we have, guard, with let us get us to be like a holla,

with the opinion public at first, without investigating, without, without, to listen at both parts, without, and, investigate who is who in this jugada?

And in that case, I took, with you with you, I've got a good alfato, to know that here could have, you could have, you could have, you know, and, thanks to God, not succeeded. No, Javier, much thanks. And, really, I go, it's, I'm asking the advice,

but, of really, if they're not here, they're not here, funnating and, and Xavier he says that, that they're going to talk with him, Agan it, for favor. I really that I do

thanks to that I'm that I'm I'm going to I'm saying. You know, I'm just you're not

what you were what you have done. But, you thank you, my pass in the lingo

with your son, and I'm good, and no you don't you don't you don't

you're that you're here, and will be to be recorded for all the years

that we're that we're many thank you much many blessings to all, to do itory, all your people, to all the serianitas. I'm saying, I'm saying,

I'm sorry. So, with your mom. Yes, the two we saw we're saying. So, then I'd like to hear of the sky. A very happy Navidate.

And that's this year too, that come in things bonitas, right? We need to. We're going, good news,

Romi, d'all. For favor, yes. And then, Javier. Abrace. A brao.

Abrace. Abrace. A bless, Romi. Feli, Felic Navi-N-N-N-V-D. We're both. Ch'all.

Tangito! Well, what interview. What's very what he told Romina, is impressive. How she

has, about these things is exclusive? Because no I've never. You,

that's being this program, 25 of December, you're listening things for

first time that said Romina that are impressive to have to have an

account, exclusive, total. Well, during the year, there were interviews that called much the attention. Why? Because impacted in the people,

because the people heard things that I wanted heard a lot of and it was when he came Jorge Reynoso,

the marido of Noelia, obviously to defend her and to talk about the coyote. You can't

that the coyote had supposed illegally robbed, some $200,000 dollars to Noelia, because Noelia he gave that money

for that arrele his house, but it's a function that they were going to be the manager. Finally, thanks to this interview,

he got to the issue between the Coyote and Noelia, but Jorge threw some bombs

of the industry that is worth a part of with respect to the payola of the music,

Anna Gargara and her past also, also about the mafia of the

Billboard and the television Hispana did a description how Univision gested a structure to dominate to the Hispanic

in the States and to some form to have those controlled. It was fortissima in revista

Jorge Reynoso regress with your editorial here in this day of

the night. When I mean the Pilar the The truth, no, not to hear much

to talk about of her for the situation that's in my respects for all, for all of that.

But, you know, about much of the you want, you want to do a question, we're doing this, we're doing this, that's, I'm going to do with all. Rudey Perez, that I mean, but not for the music. All is an o'clock.

I don't know how I was doing this. I mean, it was $250,000 for to do this, a barbara. A lot of it, a lot of it. And then I was, then I was, then I was, now the business is

managed with Paiola and all of that. And I don't know, that I'm part of the $1 million of dollars of Pallon. How? POMPECEDA. POSICCA and Fugito.

Jorge, you're saying that you confies I committed the I'm saying I'm Javier I don't have I don't know

I'm like delitos delitos detractive if you want to be responsible that me do

but I but I can you can't you can't not I can't ohho I'll say

to say something I'm just me passed at the man because I don't have done so money

and much those me staparro no I'm important the life is so

but if you do something more or less we're part we've been like, I'm going to general, in the United States of the United like a million of dollars. In that then,

well, you can't say to the list more than the I'm saying more like in the map. I don't know I was very enterado. I don't know I'm very enthralled

to come. I'm going to get in the sun. So I'm going new. I'm new. We're going to do you know,

so we're the first artist of Univision Music. The disc, obviously, I don't know what he had produced. For this, we use the best musicians, the best,

all, all the best, all the better that would for her. And, and I know to the Mr. Bejard

that he had to be named the President Univian, and the first artist he was she was

she was he was, he was, he was, he said, we're going to get a single,

when we're when we're a song that I did that he had to choose in him,

a song pop that was in a barbaridad a song malissima, but I did that he included in the

disc for that he were a participle like a participant like that was a disaster the song. So I got her the that I got her the that I got me the man and I said

let's get, let's get we, we're to do, we're going, that was good, that was the good, that was

a manned to see that in Texas, that's spectacular to do that the song, it's more, the functioned was much

better than the ballada, and I, and I said, well, this will be to do you, and I said

one of the It's that, oh, yeah, well, it's a very good, but that's in a billion, but that's gonna be it, well, they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna,

no, that's not, that's not the thing, the thing is different. Here, every radio, for that we're in B-10, to be, how can't,

we can't get to the first place. And me, you know, you say, that's the point, how are the points? You know,

to get to get to get to millions of audiences. Yeah, car, okay. Quantto, so, and me,

and me, and me says, I think, I don't you're going to get politically to get to the millionaires. I said, oh, cablorn? Who are the millionaires? Well, look.

For example, Enrique Iglesias, there's always, because they're so, so they're so, and I said, our objective is when, much, if you want to get to get to the first 20, or I said, no, no, no,

let me. And if I'm going to the war, I'm going to to all, okay? And I said, no, that's, you're talking, of a million dollars.

And I'm going to, I'm going to say, no, no, and say, Look, Oscar Yorne, of Sony, he does, for example, so, for example,

a lot of the pre-suppost, yeah, well, if those, we're going to play, I'm going a pinch million dollars of the problem.

We're going to do. And so, we'll say, me, and say, you know, you know, you know, says,

you need, that's, in the program in the morning of the morning, there has to have to send

to give, because in Puerto Rico? Because Puerto Rico, because Puerto Rico, did so, man, don't know,

and let me have to, $2,000 apolito in the morning of New York, you know, the mega, because

you're talking at those points in the morning. There's to send him well, that you have to give to

have to send to get to the, tantas of Tartart of Walmart to the

Cajvett of Macallin because he did absolutely he was he gave to get a effective.

Then, then I'm to give to this personage. to this person Martin Fabian. No,

he said, oh, my God, Martin Fabio. Yeah, no, clear. Well, a person that look,

look, look at the person, the person, the people that's bad, he's there's a

man, he's about the locutorcy, in the more, in times actual, in times, no,

he's a music, and I say, say, say it, say it, to give us to the

people, No, it's no, we're going to to eat this ball of dinosaurs malditors. He said, no, it's we said, no, is he, we said, okay, I'll be a promoter of me.

He said, oh, what cost to enter at the better? For the songs that's called L'Ela ultimately, no? And me,

said, well, my friend Sarkoio, was he, he said, and I'm going to say, I'm going to say,

the front, because if he's he gets, and he says, you know, that you're, you know, because they're

an space in October, that was the in the past. And why no there is a space? Because a quote that's a man that's a million, no, Jimmy, humilde, or no, has the 20 spaces,

right in the most of the 20 spaces. I said, I don't know, I don't see, that's the type, I don't, I know, I see, that's, so that they're artists or no, no, I'm doing the negotiation of the business, with the other things.

So, then it's, it's, he's, in the most, and you're going to cost, I think, 400,000,000 per month. That's is the world of today. Oh.

And I said, whey, Let me say, no, and let me a favor. Ponte in your negotiations, give a music, regalal, that you will be a madre, because this is a podridden.

The television? I'm, what I'm going to say, you'll be to say, and I'm a, to the audience to you, that they'll take

with, you know, to take with this, for that I don't want to be talking, for so no, I don't want to

talk to do this program, Jorge, our audience is our audience is to hear this. Look, see what

never nobody And you know, you know, you know, you know, and why he has had been exiton in the Mexico? I'm going to say,

because it's very easy. The formula when Luis de Jann and Palsen, and then he gets to Mexico, et cetera, then we're saying,

Univision encounter the realer of formula, and not I'm going to decide where they got to do, but I see that

got to do you, listen to the passes to say, it's all the market most important to to be the next 25 years, they were the Mexicans.

It was the segment more grand and with the potential more great of productivity and it's until the day that it's confirmed that the product internal brutal, the PIB of the

of the Latino is of the 2% is of 3 trillion of dollars. It's more than all the product internal brutal of America Latina

complete. Wow. Well, how we're going to dominate this people? Very easy. We have to use these points.

Ponto number one. We're going to use the nostalgia. How we give nostalgia to those that were? With the novelas. With the nostalgia, we'll take us the house. And not only let's try them in the case,

but we're going to doctrinar to a or a one oraria. We're going to go? Two, the same nostalgia will want to get that in the doctrine we're going to continue to put in an

aladio and they're going to have that set to be able to know information of your country, want to know what's going to what happened in Guaduco, what happened in Ketra? Pardon. That's very much in,

what's in their communities. So, so, what can't do have to do? There are two figures that are that are two figures

that are fervent with some aggressive in terms of not to informart to, to infundity. to get to in the

head a political of the cadena accompanied of the news we're doing so I'm talking about because we're

because we're so what we're so what then the people that's the people that's

coming to make smetida being assustada and it's been vulnerable because it's

it's there's very very valiant to cross the frontier and get a new you're vulnerable

you're debil and you're in a place where no pertainces, where you're completely discovijed,

and your only cobija, are these animals of the television, that supposedly are your friends,

is your cobija in a country in a country in a country and they they're

they're using to doctrinalos pah pahs, well, okay, there's another factor

that's necessary. It's needed to that's vulnerability and of the indigenous, the mestisos, those of

the Rasa coffee that to get a madrina Blanca, an adamantina Blanca, rubia, full of comprehension and of carino

for all of them. Christina Sarra-Lei. Oh, my God. That's a good conclusion. No, there you go. There's the last. And the last is tabed in the worst.

We need to two caucasicos, blankos, presumed superiors, that not are mesisos, not are Mexican, or not. For that

they make the favor to the people to talk to talk to the music. Then put to the poor

chaman who's with his sombreit in the gorgia and all right that all in those chardinas

seven satos in two and two people and that's that he has that's done

in the indusse a girl a cerno a cerno a cerno and a and a

desgracia my tom in the this malvada that the life was to

do that was Mal. I'm going to see. Punto. This, exact. That woman. And the other obese.

What's what? Then you're those people who are two persons that are two people that are to give us to give us stars.

But at the same time are two people are two persons blacked, no are not so non-stitious, not are like us other

who are that they presume of their luxes, of their and this and then the people

those be like the Patron's of Mexico, like the patrons that have in Mexico, in the grand casas, those respect and serve them, and we're not, and we're and we're not. So, what's that? So, does that? Hases an act of dominion in the people, at the time, where those

you've got to say a thing. I'm going to say a thing. No, you've put to think, for what carajos, the cancelar, the campaigns of publicia, English, and Barreras? You know, because? Because not want that the people to develop, no want to the people to learn, no want to get to get the people to get

out of the end. You know, what's the what's the past? Pity, be it. For God, it was the vener most grand

of the chain. The vener most of the thing is to receive the publicity to the

English in barriers. Because the Mexican, it was very misty, it was very Indian,

but when the Mexican, the American and when he and when he,

it, and when they get to get a mother, to get a to the mother,

to the who has what is what is what is what's For these imperies, for these empires, for those those superiors are

going. Another thing. How you can you can't do the rindas of Billboard, being a pianist a fracasada, how you, and I will say with much respect

because I do it, it's as possible that you can be Pepe Gaza, and you'll say to the people who has a talent when you're a

person who's a person's a fracastado, carlone. So, what, what logic has, what logic metrica has that in

those in the things, caro. If you're going to If you're going to If you're going to If you're Because you're

Or you're Auditor, Etcett But how's How carhous You're going to To say Who's a

Cantor If you're a cantate Frankasado Grand Compositor My Amigo But is a

A man A man But is a Can't say that's a good cantate Or say that you have

You have talent Or say that you Can't What's the Can't The same Does the Cobo

Leilacobo is a ampona Leilaco, on the other, I don't know if you're homosexual, lesbian, gay, trisexual, co-transexual, or you're a chival, no, me important.

But Leilaco, is a big guy, first has to have to have the valour of being the lesbian, that is, abertamente, not have to use a man or gay

and to give them and then to grab them with him for them for you to get in beer for you. You, explain me that there in the industry

that's atreve, that I'm going to say to front, that me let me to say to front, that's a trekked a man, to say, because,

until the day of today, all the same people have signed to the pachanist that's the pichie pianist

of a terse. Why do it? There are artists latinos, Mexicans, that no have the lukes that don't have

a look to have a show that they're but the marido of this desgraciada always has been

the tisgela since has a 25 years. But not is I don't know if I'm No, no, no, no, I'm

important if it's I'm not, no, no, it's Irlandish or not sure in, or, no, no, no, no, it's, the case is that this is traffic with influence, this is to continue

dominoing and to keep on the market. No, yeah. Ah, I was sitting there, ah, casuallyly, I was sent out in a,

in a, in a banquito as I'm, look at what is the thing so, was the thing, was in the lily, and I was in moment that she said, no, because

something about the mama, et cetera. And I see, that you know what you're talking. I said, oh, carl, what's what happened? There's what I mean? Look, if you're saying, I'm saying, I'm telling you.

I'm saying, I'm going to live without, without. No, that is this. I'm saying that. Oh, yeah, see, if God's, if God,

I'm going to be able to me. No, she was sorry to do that. No, for the world. No, for that. No, no, no. I don't know. I went to be living in my

cell of junta I'm going to the door of the emperors that's a terrace in bricol there in the terrace and there's and there's a television

that would have and I'm and I'm saying three of them and my chikas they're in the and I'm car man, what are

doing? What are doing? I'm saying they're seeing and me took over it. So, look how is

the life. Look, how is the life, at the three days, me called Rudy Perez, and me he said, oh, George, you have a mission special, and I don't know, I'm going to shing to.

What you want? I'm going to go to another one. I'm going to another one. I don't want to say. No, I need to know to know what? Yeah, no, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, who is?

Look, the idea that I had, I thought that no, I was a nina super-podosa, here at the jet set of Puerto Rico, because I was the, And I super in Europe. I'm talking about that I did. No, no, I mean, I was going to be in Milan.

I said, how? Why? Why? I'm a lot. Yeah, I said, I'm a little bit. I said, me, I don't. I said, me, I don't. I mean, I'm going to China.

I have a joint with the bank of the Inculture of China. We've got to get to the Chinese of the debit. When regrese of China, we'll see what on. No, who needs to your help. And in those are no cases of emergency. And I'm the only cases of emergency, and I said,

I don't want to mention it in block. And I said, if I want to go to me. The matter of the issue. I said, I said, when I was in China. And we did he go to China. And there you know, no, I'll say what happened. Me gave a message.

I'm going to tell you. Oh, yeah, me, George. What happened? Yeah. I'm going to go to go to another. A other side. As well, at the same time, look, me,

My name John John Sepulbreda You know, the son of John Sepulvera With him, and he said, Oh, yeah, Henry, Beate, I'm a very good friend Henry,

and I'm saying, Oh, boy, I want to present to someone, I'm going to come to come to come to come to come to say that?

I'm going to go to Los Angeles. I'm presenting, Noelia. And I'm, oh, yeah, this is.

Dulece, the pashola, but also Maribel Guardia with his war with Imelda Tunion were the Puntapie of 2025. It was a scandal terrible. Recurreden that Imelda met a pilot of aviation in the

house. Maribel the denuncia, he's kept with the nieto. And then, all the friends of Julianne Figueroa, who moved in the house of Maribel, to romper the silence, his master of the AA, you know? All of all right to tell you. But but also appeared the

her mother of Julianne Figueroa and Marcellia. Marcelea Figueroa, defended to his brother Julian, and, he said in that moment,

that she o'leo to the son, the son, the son of a time, a day of a

Marijuana. No, you can't? Look, Yes, it's dolorous to know that some day Jose Julianne will be to be all this, but he'll understander.

I have, I think for when that's all going to be clear and he will be to be, no? It's curious also, because this woman has meted tantas ideas to the poor that, that, how not, not, not?

The fact is that I see, uh, well, during these, uh, two years, that are for compilers of the the fallecement of my brother, I saw the

way the kind of the new change quite. I'm sure of that she says

because the little was the most amoros with me with all. It's a new really very very

very sweet. And a little the comportment has been more, like,

something something I'm saying, because I'm going for me back, me

I'm back to so, so it so it's very pretty, I think

I can to say, that I can't say what care and that's that's really

and that's really when she has done things much better. I think it's much more

more delicate to consume substances, alcoholizart, fumar in front of your child than

to look for their best. I mean me consta in repeated occasions

standing in house of Maribel that I appreciate enormously the reciviment

that me have done and that I've been the opportunity to be testigo

of much things. For example, the Fines of Semana, when

when not is that she disappeared she was to get to get to get to get to the time

of a friend of a department of another, when they were on the

night, if it was that they were, I took see that they were

and the little and the little I'm I can I'm sure.

This is very what you are saying. You can I'm can't

assure and so as, as like how I do I can say also I'm going to

talk to that I'm that I don't have seen, that I'm been a testigo if I'm

because I'm never going to inventing nothing. So this is this is grave I'm also with me Maribel

the sobrina of Maribel and when they were and we're to bring us and Melda us said

no no no no wait first I'm first I'm first I'm first you first you do you

What barbaro! That's it. That's horrible! Because I knew that they were to aller the marijuana to the man, sir. This is grave-sim. What we're listening.

Marcellia, no, I don't think, no, you know needn't you, no you need to come here to, and if you lollied, and you lolliste, that your sobrino had an odor of marijuana when he came to the rumba,

de Imelda. This is grave-sim-in-signor. Abran the eyes. It's grave. It's very, it's very, very Triste and, and,

well, for that's doing all, all what is doing. I think, I think that's the

opportunity, many times to enderces the way, and even today, I'melda, never is

tard, no way, and what what was, it's, but that's, you know, he's a

time, to, you're a time, to be, to be, some day, to be,

that's, so, but if I'm sure, Javier, I, always, I'm,

I'm, I felt that the child was a stormed. It's very hard because

it's a good, and then I would think that not he not. I think

that a mother, under whatever circumstance, but, um, but

doing this type of things is complicated. And, even with my brother,

I think, and it's so that I'm saying, that I know, that he's he was

the car to and, well, mil things, it's a

reality that, in a certain way, Julian, too, he's torbable. I mean,

remontando us to when fellesio my brother, I don't believe that they've

passed six four days of that and I'm thinking, and Meldda, who,

who, who, who, and me he said to me, he said to a other friend,

he was to be to the house, and I, you, what you're saying,

he got to more, my You think I want to go to interviews and accompany to Miami? What do you are saying? I'm Marcellia, no, I can't create what I'm

listening, of really. Look, that I've heard all. But this, this is too much. Or so, at the four days, well, they said that the mother had about the properties in the velatorio. So, imagineate what we can get to be. Marcellia, you are in the albacelia,

you are you're in the albacea of your father you're you're in the interests

economic of an herence you confiased in Mark Chacon you think Maribel is that

Maribel that can't give to give to John to Julian

you you think you is the money to Imelda

of Jose Julian you you're part interested because

if Chacon roba of the albacea you roba to roba

you exactly And, well, to start. Confians in Marko, Chacon? Absolutely. Plenament. Marco and Maribel

have all my carino, all my respect, and all my confidence. And, and I think it's very important

to separate two things, that one is the succession intestamentaria of Jose Manuel Figueroa, Figueroa,

my papa, Joan Sebastian, and there is after the succession, that's of Julianne, that is another

that's another that has nothing to know. So the function that Marko has been with

respect to the sucesion of my father, has been an assessor as far there's,

of the nine herederos that we're the assessor of Julianan. For nine years? Yes,

yes, yes, for, for, for, for, 10 years, and all

has done has done, the fact is that has collaborated, has supported in many

things without cobrate a money, obviously without not to give to

give him a good, I'm, my abogado, but well, that Mark, obviously, not he

was going to do you have a money, and we have no, and not us

for all the assesoramient that we have done, because he is an excellent abogado

and I try to tell us to tell us that I look in many occasions

for that me do the There's a person... There's a person... There's a manor of Julianne Figueroa, some erudero, John Sebastian,

that has said or had seen things rarer of Marko Chaco? Well, look, until the moment, the only

that I can't say is that my brothers, Tate Jarelia, my mom, Alina, and I,

respect us, and we're to make a Marko much and has done a work impressionant

and I know that it has that it's more easy, for him is it more easy to turn

the towel because he no is a benefit of this. No, he was doing with Julianan

or do do you do do with him. If Marko is there, he, he does it for

love. Because for him Julian was his his son, and because to Jose Julian,

too, the people have to understand that, apart this is going to put

in a fide comiso. That is all the intention for that the

person can talk what he correspond and for the receive all complete and no

terminate in hands of who knows and for what fines and for the good. Well,

what's what's what the Marcellia also about Fernando Gamboa remember in the

novi DiMela very nervous well finally they're all the

friends of Julian many amos the case came there

kind of kind of this year but also it's time

of debate for the 20-26 but But, without one of the scandals more great, in a

country serious, they would have been depredited of his program. But in the group of image, Gustavo Adolfo Infante, can be infiel, enganyar to his spouse, to have amants, and all is, it's a well-viced. It's all with

good image. Let's. Seniors, when Magilla Laguna in this 20-25, and he said, and he told, with a detail, how were his encounters with Gustavo Adolfo Infante, casado, with his, in a department of soltero

that had Gustavo, where he did all his fechorias with his amants and other friends, Mayela, romped the silence, and was a simbronazzo so strong

that still today Gustavo is still according to that. Mayela Laguna! And Gustavo' Adolfo Infante were an amant. Mayer LaGuna, how are you? Well, I mean, yeah, well, here.

What on, how are you? Javier. Yeah, it's... Yeah, it's... ...possed much time, since the last time that we've been... You're better? Yeah.

Well, yeah, I think, so, obviously, no, I could have anything, no, I could have anything more than to be more, and it's... ...and it has costed much, but...

I've got to do not. Here we're trying to let's. Mayela Laguna. Time back, I received a WhatsApp where Javier Seria. So, was a relationship

Mayela Laguna with Gustav Adolphine Faris. That one a friend of you confirmed this relation and I, no, I don't more than to go

to the Fountain and ask me, I know that is incommod but I have to know the truth in that the first time I taped the

number but this is the second then when it's the second time it's a much I'm sorry

I'm here I'm gonna I'm gonna you've seen you've seen a relationship with Gustavo Adolfo Infante

Look First that First of nothing I'm quite I'm much to be here I'm I'm just

I'm very I'm not I'm not I don't like this, but prefer I prefer to do it because me chocka that, yeah, in various programs and in all

all the other, they've been saying, that I'm going to say something, that's going to say this, I want to say the other. I'm in this moment simply not I'm because it was a moment very, very

difficult. Right, right I don't have nothing to to spend, no me important. I said, you have said many things

of me. The only that I can't say is that, well, yeah, I mean, they're saying without I want, one more. The only that I can't say is that, well, yeah, I mean, they're saying saying, without I want, one way more, because no is that I

are trying to do this, but, I don't know. No, no, no, I know, my friend, because he said, but, well, well, well, yes, no is a Yeah, no? Yeah.

Well, yeah, not is a Yeah. Well, yeah, no is Yeah. You've got a relationship to Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She. She. She said that

he said that even she, she, she, she's a maybe, some day,

some day, she was, it was, it was, it was, it's, I'd say, I mean, not is something I'd like I'd like to say, seriously, it has passed a year of what happened this, of that he's, also, that's also, for, for other person. This, and, well, have been,

dis, and said in all the media, in all the sides, that'd be able to do something. So, well, I'm here for, and to me, me have been talking, me have been talking since years, sayingdomy that there are some audios of Gustavo, and that I don't know what, that they're going to see that they're going to filter and that will

go to start I need to start I need to be free of my mind of everything so so if is what they're

so there there's a there's no that you're you're scared you're scared you're feeling you're

you're feeling you're scared you're you know well it's something it's something that I just

I was I was just I'm in peace and they're there with this and then Yeah, I mean, I just I'm nervous

I don't like this situation No, I don't me just to talk about I just that that I just can that I'm so I'm not so then

then I'm I'm a lot of this the people and think things of me that not are not because I've got

been called because I've got been since much time but I don't have no more

I know what said I'm Mayela you did you did you started solter oh yeah

was separated of Vise Enrique. Sure. No, so, completely sincere. So, you don't have to be

you're a woman he's a man, he's a man, I think so, no? Uh-huh,

I think so, no? Did the woman of Gustavo of the relation that had with you? No, I don't think, no,

I don't know, he, he would, no, no, I don't you can't say that, I don't have idea. They'd have in the famous department of soltero that's parted with... Javier Seri.

With other periodists and friends? No, no, no, I don't put to that question. But, I mean, I don't know, no, I don't know. They'd have no places of encounter. I suppose that not would be your house of casals. How much? It was a relation for both important, Mayela? Javier Seria.

It was, it was a relation that was given in the moment in that I was super vulnerable, super bad, I mean, very, very, uh, the repent in my world, my world was, the media's media, when it was public,

what he said, what was Enrique, he's got, of what happened, you know, that's another story, but, well, uh,

the repent, my world was, the media, and, and, so, he gave a relation, of,

of, of, of, of, and, and, and, and,

and, and, What's said what had to pass. One cause led to another, let's say, for to say, for to say,

Javier. Yes, yes, yes, but for to say it, you have to be a moment vulnerable, you're gonna

yeah, yeah, I'm a woman adult, no, so I'm a Javier, Serian. Yes, I'm a

mother adult, and a woman that takes decisions, but if there there are in the in those

that one not is that one is that's what's happening. I was in a moment very difficult and and, well, in a way, you have to

feel protected or I don't know how to explain it. No, I don't know how to expect it, but it was in a moment of my life that he was not very conscious of the situations, no? Simply, well,

it was what had to pass and it was that, that was not, of the situations, no? Simply, well, it was just

what you need to pass and you know. We have an investigation about this of this department and

some things that's about certain substances, not drugs, not drugs, something that he used

especially to motivate to motivate. Javier would be called Puppers, no?

That's very very habitual in in some people who like much No, no, I'd detail if this is

true, not the information that we have. Javier, it would. No, no, no, no, I don't know of that. I don't know. No, no, no, no, I don't get to answer these questions. Okay, okay, not be okay, no. Oh, and how many

things passed in this program, eh? But, look, how many hours not we've accompanied, in the bathroom, in the, with, with, with, with, with, with,

Cucin'nando, Scondida, with your audiphon. This, Serianita, me aghuntaste all the year. I tried to give the best chimmes,

the bests, primis, bombes. And, well, and it was with much love, with my team

marvellousos that we're here, accompanying today 25 of December, because, we really,

we're really, we're much for what we do we're so, so I'm, so I'm that you guys

enjoy the day of today. If you're going to eat and you're to share with your family, abasal us much. A sometimes we'll forget to have to have to the people that we want to do you. If there's

someone that you've been about you, call that person. If you've beeninisted with someone, no dejes those spaces abertos. Ciaras. For the bien-tutuio, too. If not you import to the other person,

do it for you, for you for that sanes that and if you've you've got, you've got to and you're and you're all over my

program, that's all right? And now it's a year new and come in the fiest and the end of

the end of the Rieges and it and it's a very much that we're to continue to continue

to be the whole and of the team of Javier Seriani official very

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