Jim Harold's Campfire - Haunted Rental - Jim Harold's Campfire 755

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

We kick things off with a story that blurs the line between harmless mischief and something more mysterious, as everyday objects refuse to stay put and a simple holiday preparation takes an unforgetta...ble turn. When a young child casually offers an explanation that no one saw coming, it adds an extra layer of chills to an already uncanny situation. It’s one of those stories that makes you wonder who, or what, might be sharing your space when you’re not looking. From there, the episode dives into deeply personal encounters that touch on life, loss, and what may lie just beyond our understanding, alongside eerie investigations in a place where daytime charm gives way to nighttime intensity. You’ll hear moments that feel comforting, others that feel downright unsettling, and a few that sit squarely in between. Whether it’s fleeting figures, voices in empty rooms, or experiences that defy easy explanation, these stories linger long after they’re told and might just have you listening a little more closely to the quiet around you. VIRTUAL CAMPFIRE GROUPJoin our FREE online community at ⁠https://virtualcampfiregroup.com⁠EVENTSHope to see you soon at one of Jim’s live events: https://jimharold.com/eventsYOUTUBE CHANNELBe sure to subscribe to Jim’s YouTube channel at: ⁠https://youtube.com/jimharold⁠ MERCHGo to ⁠https://jimharold.com/merch⁠ to get your Jim Harold T’s, sweatshirts, mugs, hats and more! BOOKSGet all SIX of Jim’s Campfire books here: https://jimharold.com/campfirebooks/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:34 and that very well may be the case of this story here that Isaac is going to share with us. Isaac from Virginia, thank you for joining us from the great Commonwealth of Virginia. And please tell us what happened. Yeah, it's a funny story for me. It's around a holiday that I truly love, Thanksgiving. So I guess the background is we bought and moved into our house during about March of 2020. It's a hard time to buy a house
Starting point is 00:02:09 and a lot of strange things happened around that time. So we bought the house, we're looking at it. Everything seemed fine, moved in. And nothing like totally strange happened. But we did have a child. We do have cats. And there was a new father at the time. So I think our son, whenever we moved in, was just about, just over a year old.
Starting point is 00:02:45 So we're going about our lives in the house. And the strange things that started to happen was like we would just have things be misplaced that you set down maybe a minute prior. So like, you'd be, you'd go to watch a movie, turn on Netflix, put the remote down, go out to the kitchen, make popcorn or whatever, and then you'd come back to the remote would be missing. And you'd be like, I swear, I just put this remote on the couch or on the coffee table, something like that. And you'd look and look and look. And then you'd leave the room and come back and it'd be in the same spot that you thought that you had to put it before. So I just chalked that up to just to like, well, maybe we're going to. We're still tired, new parents and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I'd hear a couple things up and down the stairs, little thumps upstairs, chalk that off to the cats, no big deal. So the strange thing that happened, the strangest thing that happened, I guess, happened in 2022 for Thanksgiving. Yeah. I was cooking dinner, and we were going to transport everything to my wife's parents' house. They're just 15 minutes up the road. So everything planned out.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I was packing things away into the coolers to keep it warm and everything. I had this last thing, last dish that I had to make. And all I needed to do was add some like chili and cheese honey to it. Ooh, that sounds good. That sounds good. You're making me hungry, Isaac. Yeah, good. Yeah, so I bought some that week, bought it on Tuesday or whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I put it in our spice cabinet. I knew exactly where I put it. It's on this middle shelf. And my wife and kids had already drove over to her parents' house. So I'm like, I'm kind of in a rush getting things together. And I'm like, okay, I just need to add this honey and, you know, put this in this tray. And then I can head out the door. And I open the spice cabinet and I'm looking in there.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And it's nowhere. It's not in there at all. I'm moving things out Like oh maybe I put it like maybe it got bumped in the bag Maybe it fell over It's not in there I'm taking things out putting things back It's not in there
Starting point is 00:05:11 So then I'm thinking like okay Maybe I put it Maybe I got it out moved it Maybe my wife moved it So I'm checking some other cabinets Like the logical spots I'm not finding it And I've always been like
Starting point is 00:05:26 Kind of suspicious of Just like the weird things that happened so I closed all the cabinets and I just said out loud, please bring my honey back. I'm going to check the cabinet in two minutes and I'd like that honey back so I can head out. So I continued getting things ready. About two minutes later, I checked the cabinet and it is
Starting point is 00:05:53 directly in the middle shelf, in the very center of that middle shelf, and everything that's all in that shelf is pushed back. So it's like front and center. There's nothing around it. It's just this bottle of honey that I needed. And I looked at it and I saw it. And I didn't know what to say at first.
Starting point is 00:06:14 So I just said, thank you. And I used it, did my thing. And put away, got packed up and went into Thanksgiving dinner after that. So it's super strange. It was like, just showed up. So went over. We had dinner. It was great.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And on the way, on the way home, I was thinking about it more. I was like, man, that's super strange. We told my wife whenever I get home. We had driven separately. And get home, unpacking stuff, putting stuff in the refrigerator. My son's, I guess, around. three or four years old at this point. He's talking well enough. And he's in the kitchen playing. I'm telling him. He's like, yeah, it's this weirdest thing. Like, I couldn't find it. I said
Starting point is 00:07:09 this. And my wife already got creeped out whenever I told her that I was talking to the air. And then this bottle of honey shows up. And it's like without missing a beat, my son goes, oh, that was probably Mr. Shadow. Who is Mr. Shadow? That's why I want to know. Right. Yeah, both of us are like, what'd you just say? He's like, yeah, Mr. Shadow. And we're not trying to be dismissive of them or anything. It's like, oh, well, who's Mr. Shadow? Like, how you know him?
Starting point is 00:07:40 He's like, yeah, it's Mr. Shadow. He lives in the woods behind the house. Good Lord. Okay. Maybe we won't play outside for a little bit until we figure out who Mr. Shadow is. But, yeah, he said Mr. Shadow likes to play games. that he was just playing a game with me. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah. So any further insight on who Mr. Shadow was or what was it going on? No. No, I mean, so our house was built in like 51, I think. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Not necessarily like the oldest house in the world. But, yeah, it was just,
Starting point is 00:08:24 that's the only time that my son's mentioned it, too. But I have noticed, like, since that event, we haven't had too many more instances and things. I mean, we've definitely had some, like, toys that turned on that didn't really make sense that they're turning on. But I think the biggest one that I've had recently is, so I work nights. And I was having some, it was up during the afternoon, just wasn't able to go to sleep. and I was laying on the couch, and I swear, on my life, I was seeing something out of the corner of my eyes, like, going, like, peeking down our stairs. Mr. Shadow. Just a shadow in the corner of my eyes and made me giggle a little bit, and that's whenever I was like, oh, that must be Mr. Shadow.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And it just kind of clicked that. Maybe I should share the story. Yeah, well, thank you for sharing it. You know, it's interesting. It reminds me a story we had years ago. Somebody was a woman called. then, and she had been listening to Coast to Coast A.M. And the topic of reptilians came up, which I don't necessarily believe in the existence of, you know, reptilians ruling the world or anything. But it came up on Coast to Coast A.M. And the next day she was talking to her husband, who was very skeptical about any of this stuff. And she was saying, you know, this is why this person who was on Coast to Coast A.m. was talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:56 reptilians and his theories and his justifications. And her husband said, well, if all this is true, why wouldn't the people know? Now, their son was like three years old or something, playing in his peas and carrots, barely verbal. He looks up and says, people not ready yet. Oh. So sometimes kids say the spookiest things. They say the spookiest things.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Now, are you familiar now? You've been listening for a while. Are you familiar with a book called Jot, just one of those things that we talk about in the show? Yeah. About things going away and showing back up by Mary Rose Barrington. Unfortunately, I think she passed around COVID time or shortly after. And she had been on the show, and I ended up talking about, I probably mentioned this show about this book about 40 times on the shows. and people have read it and things talking about these weird things when things like go missing.
Starting point is 00:10:58 It's just very, very strange. So no idea who Mr. Shadow is. And your son never mentions Mr. Shadow anymore. He doesn't. His younger brother's getting to about the age where he mentioned, his older brother mentioned it. So we'll see if he shows back up for him. I hope. The other thing is he doesn't seem to be, he seems to just be a little prankster.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Kind of helpful sometimes. Sometimes you're like, where are my keys? And then they show up. There's three things about us, Isaac, and two of them we have in common. We both love Thanksgiving. We both love a good spooky story. But whereas you can cook, I can barely make noodles. So you got me there.
Starting point is 00:11:40 You got me there. But thank you for being on the show. I appreciate it. Stay spooky. Stay spooky, Jim. Welcome to the Campfire. I'm Jim Harold. So glad you're here.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And that first spooky story. Well, that was just the start. We have much more to come on this edition of the Camp Fire. I can't believe we're almost on to 17 years, April of 2009. A little later in the month, we started this show. So thank you to everyone over the years who has told their stories and so forth. And I counted it up. I have spreadsheets going back to 2018.
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Starting point is 00:14:25 Steve from Alabama rejoins us. And he has a story about his mom and dad. Steve, welcome back to the show, as I told Steve, you know, and this goes for all of our stories today, storytellers today and every day. We thank you so much because there would be no show without you. Steve, could you please share this story? Thank you again. You're welcome. Thank you for allowing me to come back.
Starting point is 00:14:46 My last story I talked about what happened that changed me from a skeptical physician to a believer in the paranormal. And today I've got a couple stories about my family, some end-of-life things that happened. And our family never really talked about paranormal. It just wasn't a big issue. I certainly never heard my parents talk about it. But in my dad's last years, he had chronic kidney disease and went on home dialysis. And in the fall of 2015, he told me one. day that while he was going through his dialysis, his father, who had been dead 40 years,
Starting point is 00:15:22 walked into the room from a central hallway, walked into the room that my dad was in, sat down next to him, and my dad said, you know, I was startled, and I said, like, Dad, where have you been? And he just said, I've been away, son, and that's all he said. He would just smile at him that wouldn't answer any other questions. And in a few seconds, he disappeared. And so from that point until almost a year, later when my dad passed, every month randomly, my granddad would either look at dad from the hallway, just appear in a chair by him or walk in the room again, but he never said anything else. And it always just lasted a few seconds. And my dad still had out of his mental faculties really
Starting point is 00:16:03 well until he passed. So then fast forward to 2021, my mom who was living by herself and, you know, very independent and good health, she told Judy, my wife and I, uh, in January that she was starting to see either her mother or my dad poking their head in her bedroom door at night. So she would be in bed, watching some TV, get ready to go to sleep, and she would see one or the other of them randomly. And never saw them together. They never said anything. And so when Judy and I left that day, we said, oh, my gosh, you know, mom's probably not going to be with us after a year. So these episodes continued pretty regularly for month after month. And then kind of as an aside, I had to retire.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I was a dermatologist and a mild surgeon, and I had to retire unexpectedly because there's some issues with my dominant hand and clumsy surgeons aren't much good to anybody. So I retired, but it ended up being a blessing because less than two weeks after I retired, my mom was rushed to the emergency room. And a very short version of the story she had. aggressive leukemia and so forced retirement allowed Judy and I to stay with mom pretty much 24-7 until she passed away and when she was in the hospital she again all her faculties were very sharp she mentally she recognized everybody you know could tell stories and
Starting point is 00:17:30 whatnot but she told us that she saw the cutest little blonde-haired boy and she'd actually had a dream about him about a month before the hospitalization and I ask her you know does he say anything and she said he asked me where do you want to go and I said I don't know and uh after that he never spoke another word and he really pretty much either by a right shoulder left shoulder and uh she knew nobody else could see it but I'd ask her regularly you know is he here today and she get a little frustrated sometimes because I was asking maybe too much but her story was very consistent and when she got to go home the little boy was there too you know she she was right there by her side the whole time. And towards the end, probably about a week before she passed,
Starting point is 00:18:14 she told me, it's not going to be long now because he's closer. And she told her, she thought that he was her guardian angel. And so the weekend, before she passed away, that was one of the two weekends that Judy and I went back to Alabama. So before we left, I gave Mama Kiss, told her I loved her. And she had opened her eyes, but she said, I love you too. And that ended up being the last word she ever said. We went home, got back in late Friday night, and on Saturday, I walked into my bedroom, and I saw my mom. And she was directly in front of me, but facing to the right, and she looked like she was probably in her 20s, like in her prime of health. She was monochromatic or black and white. There was almost like a glow coming off of her. And she didn't turn to face me. She didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:18:59 She was just there for a few seconds, and she was gone. So I thought, I may be more sleep deprived, than I realized or, you know, maybe mom just passed. So I called my siblings and said, you know, hey, how's mom? Any updates? And they said, you know, nothing's changed. She isn't responsive, but she's still breathing. She still seems to be comfortable. So Sunday, my wife and I drove back up to Kentucky, and I guess within 24 hours of that,
Starting point is 00:19:26 mom passed. And so I wondered, you know, had that been like a shared death experience, had mom's soul maybe left her body when I saw her? Her body just stayed on autopilot a couple of days. Or was she aware that she was about to pass and she was just getting a message to me that I'm fine, it's beautiful here, don't worry about me. And then fast forward again to the summer of last year, my older sister, she got really sick and was in the hospital and we went up to see her and we're visiting with her. And it seemed like, you know, she was going to pull through this and be okay. So we went back home.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And a couple of days after I got back home, I was coming out of my office, walking to the kitchen, and my sister's there in front of me. And she's walking away from me. And she turned and looked over her right shoulder at me. And kind of like my mom, she was black and white. She looked like she was in her 20s. She was in great health. And then she just smiled and disappeared. So I thought, oh, my gosh, you know, did Holly just pass?
Starting point is 00:20:31 And I called my nephew and I said, you know, and he updates on Holly. And he said, yes, she's doing well. We think she's probably going to get to go home in three or four days. So two days later, I was talking to her on the phone. And she said, I'm really hurting. I'm really uncomfortable. And so I said, well, I don't want to keep you. I'll let you go.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Maybe you can get some rest or they can get you something, you know, for pain. And so we said our goodbyes and hung up. And then less than 30 minutes later, my nephew called me and said, Holly had just passed. Wow. So there were a lot of similarities with what happened with her and mom, except Holly, I know, was conscious and cognizant when I saw her. So I wouldn't think of that as possibly being a shared death experience. So I think both of them kind of were just aware they were getting ready to leave and they wanted to say their goodbye and let me know they were fine and not to worry about them.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Do you think that your family has, because I think this exists for a lot of. lot of people, but I think do you think that your family as a group has a heightened sensitivity and maybe a heightened ability to detect these kind of things? I think there's a very, very, very special bond that was between my older sister and my mom and also to some degree between Holly and my mom and myself. There was a time that I was in my residency and I was driving and I got this urgent feeling I need to pray for mom. And unbeknownst to me, she was on a flight and the flight was going through horrible turrets.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And then after that, you know, it would all calm down. And mom and Holly had several times where one needed something and the other instantly knew. So I think we did have some kind of connection. I also think, and it's my opinion that, and I do firmly believe in an afterlife, and I firmly believe these kind of things like you're describing happened and, you know, the work that's been done on near-death experiences and shared death experiences. you mentioned and those kind of things, and we featured that on a lot of the shows.
Starting point is 00:22:35 There's really something to it. But I do think death is a lot more complicated on one level than I think. I think we kind of try to simplify it. And I think, you know, the idea of almost those loved ones preparing your mom and dad. They were almost seems like they were preparing them and getting ready for the transition. But also very interesting. You saw your mom and your sister, both in black and white. And another thing that you pointed out was,
Starting point is 00:23:01 in the prime of life, so many people talk about that when they see somebody who has passed or something along those lines. They don't describe seeing them when they were ill and, you know, dealing with whatever health challenges they were dealing at the time of their sickness or death. They said, they looked great. They looked better than I ever did. They looked like they were in their absolute prime of health. And in the consistency of those kind of reports to me says a lot that there really is something to this. And we, Don't understand it. Don't know if we're supposed to understand it. Don't know if we'll ever understand it. But there's certainly something there. I definitely agree. Steve, thank you for sharing your story with us. I appreciate it very much.
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Starting point is 00:24:54 Return caller Elita is back from the Show Me State of Missouri. Actually, she's not going to show us, but she's going to tell us. But if you're on the video, she has shown us that she has her paranormal podcast shirt on. We appreciate it. We always love when people have the shirts and things.
Starting point is 00:25:13 You know, yeah, we make a little bit of money on it. Believe me, it's not the majority. Most of it goes to the shipping and the processing and all the way. But what I love about it, it starts conversations because somebody's going to see a leader and says, what is the paranormal podcast? And that's how it helps us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah, that's what helps us the most. That's what helps us the most. So we really appreciate it. So Alita, thank you. And everybody out there who's bought merch at jimahril.com slash merch. We appreciate it. But we're not here to talk about merch. We're here to talk about Alita's story.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And it has to do with all haunting Alita. Tell us all about it. Welcome back to the show. So I'm going to try and give you the Reader's Digest version. So many things have happened there. My para partner and I have been doing paranormal investigations for 20-something years, and we've been all over. We've been the Lemp, Gettysburg, Crescent Moon, and we've had experiences, and we've actually stayed in haunted places that had nothing. So I was networking and found out about this haunted Airbnb.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I don't want to give out the name or anything, but the history is phenomenal. And I'll go right into the history. The history, it's an 1865 Victorian two story, and it was a couple and their daughter that lived there. The daughter was psychic, and back then they thought she had schizophrenia. So they sent her to a mental institution, and she ended up passing away there. A year later, there was a young girl down the street that said she was possessed by their daughter, and they took her in to live with them. And for a year, two years, this girl was their daughter.
Starting point is 00:26:57 In the meantime, the spiritual phenomena was coming where they were doing seances and things. So they became spiritualists. And in that house, they were doing seances. And then eventually, after a year or two, the young girl said, guess what? I'm not possessed anymore, and she went back home. But it's a whole history. If anyone is into history and paranormal, we'll know where I'm talking about. My parent partner lives in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I live in St. Louis. So we found this place. It's south of Chicago. It's north of St. Louis, I'll say. So when we get there, and the men that own this place, when you walk in, you're back in 1865. The parlor, it's phenomenal. Oh, that sounds cool. That sounds very cool.
Starting point is 00:27:46 It is. So we got there in the afternoon. And when you walk in, you walk into the living room with piano and, you know, all the, I don't know what kind of baroque furniture, you know. And then you walk back and there's the parlor. And then there's the staircase that's in the living room. The first day we got there, this was the afternoon. We were getting set up. We were going to meditate and we were talking, you know, in the parlor.
Starting point is 00:28:12 And then we hear the footsteps upstairs. And it was like a woman in heels, walking. walking around and we kept trying to, we tried to debunk a lot of it, okay, because we're kind of skeptical, but there were definitely footsteps and it was running around. It sounded like they were cleaning or something and we, and this was happening in the afternoon. So we would go upstairs and it would stop and we'd come back down and we'd say hello and you could hear her tiptoe to the top of the step and take a step down. So that was phenomenal. I I mean, so all afternoon this was happening.
Starting point is 00:28:53 We were doing, and as we were there, we did get EVPs, and we did the Estes method, which you know what that is. Right. Which was phenomenal because we were having actual, I was having an actual conversation. Well, you know what, Alita, can you give people a brief thumbnail description of what the Estes method is because it is interesting? So the Estes method, Diane went into one of the room. and we have a spirit box and we have earphones connected. You put the earphones on, then you put on headphones, and then you put on a mask.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So she cannot hear or see. She is free deprived. I go in another room and I'm asking questions. Now, she's connected to the spirit box and whatever comes through, she will say. So I'm in the other room talking and I said, who, you know, who's here? And she said, I'm a female. And I said, oh, okay. She said, you guys make me laugh.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Diane and I cut up a lot. So she said, do you make me laugh? We enjoy you here. We said, okay. And she was answering my questions. I was having a full conversation. And then suddenly something happened to where Diane was saying, I have to take,
Starting point is 00:30:07 I have to remove everything because she was starting to scream that he was coming into the room. So we're like, okay, that's a little scary. The way this Victorian place is set up, when you go up the steps, you go up the steps and there's the bathroom. Over to your right is one bedroom door and then there's a second bedroom door. And those two are connected by a door so you can shut your door but open the one that you can connect them. And then to the left was the bedroom that that young girl stayed in. So I'm going to just skip right to nighttime because this is our first night. We were done at about 3.34 o'clock that night.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And we got in our bed. You know, I got mine. She got hers. We had the door open. I have a habit of putting my suitcase up against the closed door. And we're reading, trying to settle ourselves down. And we hear footsteps. Men's footsteps.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And you could hear the keys jangling as it was coming up the stairs. And she's looking at me and I'm looking at her in our rooms. And you could hear him. coming around and we're just sitting there and he started tapping on my door and Jim, he punched my door half open. Oh man. And the door is punched half open. I jump out of this bed run into her room.
Starting point is 00:31:35 He goes over to her room and he's wiggling the doorknob. So nonetheless, all night we were in her room in her bed as he was jiggling the doorknob, tapping on the door. You could hear him walk in, you know, walk back downstairs. I think we, we finally went to bed
Starting point is 00:31:53 maybe at 6 o'clock or whatever. In this house during the day, so I'm downstairs and I hear Diane call my name. Mm-hmm. And I hear Alita and I turn around and I'm looking for her and she's outside looking around, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:10 the house. So they, it, it called my name. at one time it called her name. There's another time, oh my God, there was so many things that happened and now I'm trying to bring all of them up.
Starting point is 00:32:27 There was another time that we were, it was afternoon, we were talking again, and suddenly we hear this man whistling. And we thought maybe it was a maintenance man or something because we heard kind of the door open. We hear this man kind of whistling away and we get up, there was nobody there. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:32:49 So this is during the afternoon. With this place during the day, all these wonderful little things happen like you hear the whistling, you hear the footsteps. And at around 7 o'clock at night is when all heck breaks loose. Okay?
Starting point is 00:33:07 The whole atmosphere, it's, I can't explain it. The whole atmosphere turns, it doesn't turn malicious, just it just turned heavy, okay? And that's when things start happening. I'm sitting in the parlor facing the stairs, the stairway. And as Diane's talking to me, I can see this strip of white coming down the steps like slinky.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And all of a sudden it comes up and over the banister and it just, it just dissipates. And I'm sitting there going, she said, what did you see? I said, I don't, I couldn't tell you. I can't tell you, I don't know what I saw. Seriously. It was the weirdest thing. Another time, we have a paranormal music box, and there's a laser, and we headed upstairs, and nothing was happening. But if you break that laser, it plays this really creepy music.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Right. So we decided to go to lunch, and Diane said, I'm going to go upstairs and get the music box. And I said, okay, and I see her coming down the steps, and we meet. And also I hear the music box going off. And I said, Diane, I thought you got the music box. And she has the saucer eyes. And she just says, it's in my hand. So it's mimicking the music box.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Oh, man. Yeah, it's mimicking the music box. I think the one time we were in the room trying to meditate. This is during the day. We're trying to meditate and footsteps are going. You could hear the footsteps. It was a woman walking around. She's walking up and down, you know, and I yelled, will you stop?
Starting point is 00:34:52 And she stopped. The footsteps stop. And you hear her tiptoe over. And Diane looked at me because I think you shouldn't have done that. We hear the little footsteps creep over to the stair, top of the stairs come down like three steps. There's nothing there. And we're just, this is happening during the evening, you know. the evening.
Starting point is 00:35:17 The one time we went, I said, Diane, I'm going to sleep in my room. You sleep in yours. It's going to be okay. Jim, at 4 o'clock in the morning, I hear a door rustling. I thought it was her having to get up. The door's rustling next to my, because the bed is, I'm next to the door. Next thing I know, I hear at 4 o'clock men's footsteps coming into my room and walking, around my bed.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I am sitting there with the covers up. But I'm like, oh my God, this is really happening. But I'm trying to debunk it at the same time thinking, okay, maybe it's the water heater or, you know, but I hear his footsteps. He goes to the window. I hear him turn around. He goes into Diane's room and I hear him stop. And this happened from 4 o'clock to 445. So I am sitting there and finally, finally, when it stopped, I jumped up and I'm going,
Starting point is 00:36:19 Diane, wake up. Did you not hear what was happening? The last thing that happened, and this is a first, I've seen full body apparitions in different stories, but at this house, we were sitting in, it was the afternoon, we were sitting there starting to meditate. The parlor, it's a couch. a couch and a couch. So it's like a horseshoe and you're looking out of a big window.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Her and I are starting to meditate and out of the corner of my eye, I see a man, I could tell you what he was wearing, sitting on the edge of the couch watching us. And he had a checkered shirt, he had blue jeans, he had yellowish brown,
Starting point is 00:37:03 yellowish hair. And the minute she looked at me, she said that my face went white. And I just, she said, what are you seeing? I said, do you not see him? She goes, no. And I turn, of course, he disappears.
Starting point is 00:37:19 So that was the last thing that happened there. Wow. So there's a portal there, evidently, because they held seance. So we don't know who's coming through half the time. But we're going back, actually, March 24th and staying five days. Oh, wow. You'll have to report back. So, I mean, you feel some people would run away, but you're running into it.
Starting point is 00:37:44 You want to see what's going on. You want to solve the mystery for yourself. Yes, yes. We've never stayed in a place. And like I said, we were in Gettysburg. We were at the Lump Mansion. We stayed at the Crescent Moon in a very haunted room with nothing happening. This place you walk in, first of all, it draws us in.
Starting point is 00:38:04 It's during the day, it is the most comforting place. you've ever been, even though these things are happening, the voices, the whistling, you know, oh, the clapping. I forgot that we were meditating it and right in the middle of our meditation, we hear this, right in the middle of our meditation. And I think Zoom cut it out, but Alita was clapping there. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yes. I mean, this place is, and the history, and the history of where it's located is phenomenal. It's just really a really quick. place and we'll go back. Please do come back and tell us how that goes and what happens. And thank you so much for sharing your story once again on the campfire and stay spooky. You too. Stay spooky, Jim.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Thanks. Long time listener, first time caller. Kathy is on the line from North Carolina. We're so glad that she is. And she has a story about, well, a very unique and a very vivid dream. Kathy, thank you for joining us. Please tell us what happened. Well, give you a bit of a backstory.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I work at a church school. So the church is upstairs and downstairs or most of the school offices and school classrooms. And my dream was set there. And again, a bit of a backstory is if you've ever had kids, you kind of know the preschool community, that you often encounter the same adults through birth. day parties through day dates and what have you. So this dream involved a woman whose daughter was in my daughter's class, the same age. We live in Raleigh, North Carolina, and kind of a three degrees of separation type of community. So our daughters went through preschool together and went
Starting point is 00:40:02 on to separate elementary schools. So we kind of lost touch. We were even just acquaintances, just to begin with. So one night, I had quite often some of your listeners described as the most vivid dream. It was just different and just very clear and very powerful. I saw, oh, I must add, this mom ended up passing away from colorectal cancer. And left a young family, a devastated husband, and a very sad community that she was very much a part of. So a couple of years after she passed away, I had this dream. And it was that I bumped into her in the hallway at the school. And she was just going 20 miles an hour, almost like she was planning an event or something.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And she was moving really fast. And I was aware that she shouldn't be there in my dream. and I stopped her and just to say a name, I was like, Jane, oh my gosh, what are you doing here? How are you? And she wouldn't stop for me. And so I was literally following her like a duckling, trying to, well, how are you? Where have you been? Or what do you?
Starting point is 00:41:12 You know, and trying her asking her all these questions. And she wouldn't acknowledge me. And so she finally turned and hit the steps. And again, I'm following her going, how are you? Are you okay? Oh, my gosh, this is amazing. And, you know, the stairs where you start up and then there's a landing and then you proceed to go further up the stairs.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yes. She stops, and almost like out of one of those comedy sticks, I run up up her behind her, and she turns around and she looks down a couple steps at me and looks me dead in my eye and goes, Kathy, tell them that the bird that they see, that it's me. And then I woke up immediately. What the heck? But Jim, the odd thing about this was I had this dream, never said anything about it, never just, it impacted me. I remember it to this day, like it was yesterday.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Right. So subsequently, my daughter and her daughter met again for high school. They ended up going to the same high school. And when my daughter said that she saw the girl, her daughter, I said, oh, my gosh, I had this dream one time about her mom. It was so weird. Told my 14-year-old daughter about it, which, thinking about it, I should have thought better, because she goes and tells the girl. My mom had the dream, you know, and I'm going, oh, my gosh, they're going to think, you know. So she tells the daughter, well, the daughter and her family, her grandparents and the family, they were about to go on vacation.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And they rented an Airbnb in Hawaii and went on this trip. Well, at the trip, they were all sitting at dinner and a bird flies into the family room. And they couldn't get the bird out and they couldn't get it whatever. And they get that bird out. And so fine. then another evening the dad was sitting on the bluff overlooking the ocean watching the sunset and kind of contemplating things and a bird swoops down and brushes him on his shoulder
Starting point is 00:43:08 and the funny thing about this was they it was so long between when I had the dream and when I told my daughter and then when my daughter told their daughter and that it happened to be before they went on this vacation where this happened. And I was like, you know, wasn't like I had the dream on Wednesday, woke up on Thursday, told them and they left that weekend.
Starting point is 00:43:33 This was a couple of years in the span of the story being told. And I don't know, Jim, whether to classify it as your head scratcher, whether your prophetic dream. I never had those dreams before. I've never had one since. But the dad and I never mentioned anything about, We never spoke to each other about it.
Starting point is 00:43:57 But her mom, the woman who passed away, his mom came up to me one time at the girls' high school graduation and said, I just want to thank you for sharing that dream because that brought us such peace. Wow. I know. Again, another one of those, too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence for sure. Exactly. Exactly. Kathy, thank you for sharing it. I think it's really important, really vibrant, and they find their way to get their message across.
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Starting point is 00:45:33 On the campfire, we always hear about ghosts. This is a different kind of ghost, and Kai from Arizona is back, and Kai is going to tell us about this type of ghost. Kai, welcome back to the show. Thank you for joining us. Hi, Jim. Thanks for having me again. Yeah, so this is a story that takes place, gosh, in the mid-aughts, I guess. I was in my mid-20s. I was living in San Francisco at the time. And I just moved into my very first apartment. And it was one of those kind of classic first apartment. It was just cute as I'll get all. It was 1906 was the building. So yeah, I was kind of an older building, lots of charm, absolutely tiny apartment, but beautiful views. And so I had lots of friends who'd come over. They called it the tree house because it
Starting point is 00:46:19 was about the size of a tree house, but also because it had some trees around it that made it kind of feel like you were up in the trees. So I had this great little apartment that I shared with my two cats, Max and Charlie. And Max was, you know, kind of a younger adult cat. Charlie was a much older cat. He was pushing 20 at the time. And so we moved in and it was, it was a lot of fun. We were enjoying our time there. And after about a month or two, I'd say, I started noticing like the shape of a cat sort of out of the corner of my eye, just right, you know, running through my peripheral vision. and I didn't think anything of it because I have two cats, you know, but I would turn to look at the cat and I would notice that there's nothing there, you know, and really, really expecting to see one of my cats sitting there or having just run into the corner or something. And so I think, oh, it's a small apartment.
Starting point is 00:47:12 They may have run into the bedroom or something, and so I'd go check. And both cats would be absolutely fast asleep on the bed. Or they'd be down in the garden. I used to let my cats out back then. And so this kind of kept happening. I would just, every now and then, out of the corner of my eye, I'd just see the shape of a cat just kind of, you know, running past or I'd see them kind of going past me coming up the stairs to the apartment or up on the railing, down in the garden, different places kind of around that area, around the apartment. And, yeah, I didn't think too much of it, but it was starting to feel a little weird because it just kept happening. And then after a few months, I started hearing noises that night.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And so the way that the apartment was laid out was that you had a bedroom and then an on-sweet, you know, connected bathroom. That was really tiny. The bedroom was tiny. The bathroom was even way more tiny. There was room for a sink, a toilet, and a shower. That was it. And it was right near my bed because everything's real small.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And so I started hearing what sounded like my cat, Charlie. He's an older cat. I used to leave the shower dripping just a tiny, tiny bit so that he could kind of look at it because older cats like to do that sometimes. And there was a very specific sound that he would make when he would do that, which was that I would hear him kind of, you know, move the shower curtain aside a little bit. And then when he jumped into the shower, it was one of those kind of cheap plastic insert ones. So the floor was a little won't.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And when he'd jump into it, you'd hear a little like, w-w-w-w-wk-a-kind of sound as the plastic kind of pressed under his feet. And then you'd hear him go in there and he'd lick, lick, lick, lick at the water. And then he would sometimes kind of scratch, scratch in there a little bit. And then you'd hear him kind of the wump as he jumped out again, the shower curtain. So very specific sounds. And I wouldn't usually really wake up all the way when I would hear them because I knew it was just Charlie in the bathroom. But one night I did wake up and I couldn't figure out at first why I had woken up, but something felt really weird about it. And what I finally realized that was weird was that I had two cats purring at the foot of my bed on either side of my feet.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And there were still sounds going on in the bathroom. So what was going on in the bathroom? So I thought it must be an animal. There must be a raccoon or a, you know, not a skunk because I would have smelled it, maybe a possum, but something kind of cat-sized in there. Right. Make that sound on the plastic. And living alone, I thought, shoot, I have to go deal with this. And I love wildlife.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I love animals, but I do not love the idea of going into a tiny little space, you know, and trying to flush out an animal that's in there. Sure. So I laid there for a while, finally put on my courage cap and went into the bathroom, pulled back the shower curtain. And I'm sure that a lot of your listeners and definitely people who have called in over the years know this feeling, but there's a really weird feeling when you fully expect something to be there. And it is just not there. And there was nothing there, like nothing at all. And I stood there kind of dumbfounded for a while because those sounds had been going until I pulled back the shower curtain. I heard them all the way into the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And there was just nothing there. There was no way it could have gotten past me. So at that point, I thought, okay, that was weirder than just normal weird. That was, you know, put that in the file with some of the other weird things that have happened in my life. And so I kind of laid down and pondered it. And I thought, well, you know what? It's cool. I have another cat, basically, in my house.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I have a little extra bonus cat that I don't have to feed. I don't have to take to the vet. But there it is. And so it would just kind of happen from time to time. I told my boyfriend about it at the time, who's now my boyfriend about it at the time, who's now my husband. He's a skeptic. He did not believe me to this day. He doesn't really believe me. He was very kind about it, but he didn't believe me. Um, but one night he was sleeping next to me in the bed right next to where the bathroom door is. And the sound started up. And I like elbowed him and
Starting point is 00:50:54 ribs. I was like, wake up. There it is. Tell me there's not noises coming from the bathroom. And he's like, yeah, that's real weird. And went in there. And of course, there was nothing in there. And he actually put on the head lamp. He was like, there must be something under the apartment, went down into the garden below and went and looked under the, under the, under the, under the, apartment there and there was nothing there. So he just told himself that there was something there and scampered off. But it was the same exact sounds that I would hear Charlie make, the same, the shower curtain, the wump, the wump, the lick, lick, all of that just with no cat. And so that was my ghost cat. When my friends would come over and visit me at the tree house, they would all,
Starting point is 00:51:29 you know, kind of sometimes come in and just be like, hey, cat, what's going on? And we just kind of had an ongoing little joke about the ghost cat that lived in my apartment. So that's my very cool. Very cool. And we. have heard other, one of the more touching ones that I heard was, and this is very early on with the campfire, there was one who unfortunately, like many of us have had to do, you have a pet who, you know, reaches that stage where they're suffering and you have to make that decision, which is very difficult, and she had to make that decision. And now dog collars are changing a little bit, the tags are incorporating things, but back in the day, and still a lot of dog collars
Starting point is 00:52:07 have the tags. And you know if you've had dogs, for example, different ones sound different ways, and you can tell which dog is coming by the jangle of their collar. So unfortunately, she had to make that decision, and she was coming home from the vet that day after everything was completed. And she had the collar, of course, and she put it in the garage. And for a few days after that, she would hear the jangle of those tags throughout her house. Wow. And I can't remember if the dog actually came to her and then it didn't happen anymore. That may have happened. Again, this is probably a story from 2010, so I'm a little foggy on the details, but that was the idea. And, hey, if we can have human ghosts, why can't we have cat ghosts? Kai, thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Two-time storyteller. You deserve a super double award. So thank you so much for doing it. Thank you very much. And stay spooky. Stay spooky, Jim. Thanks so much. Next up on the campfire, we're talking to Gabe from Washington and his wife told him about the show. I believe it's Melissa, right? Is that right, Melissa? Right. Well, Melissa, thank you so much for telling Gabe about the show. And let that be a lesson to everybody. That's how we get these great stories.
Starting point is 00:53:28 People tell other people about the show. Then they come on and share like Gabe does. So be like Melissa. And thank you, Melissa, and stay spooky. Appreciate it very much. Gabe, you have a story about a strange man. Tell us about this strange man. Okay, so me and my friends, so to begin with,
Starting point is 00:53:48 me and my friends would go rock climbing and always plan trips in Southern California. And we were planning a trip, and one of our friends got really sick, which we got really worried about. But he assured us, hey, everything's going to be fine and just go without me. So me and my friend, Nick, decided to go on this trip. And before we did, we were going to get some fast food. And as we were waiting to pull into the parking lot, we saw this mountain of a man, probably six, five, 300 plus pounds.
Starting point is 00:54:23 And he was mumbling to himself. And we just really didn't think anything of it at the time. And when we got into the fast food restaurant, we're waiting in line. And the guy just all the way. a sudden was there and we didn't see him walk in. We didn't hear him and he's just right in front of us now and he comes right up to us. He puts his hand on my friend Nick's shoulder and he's mumbling, it's going to be all right. Oh man. And we were just awesome thing and we've we were we had this anxiety come over us but we felt somewhat relieved. It was very strange feeling. So cut to
Starting point is 00:55:07 we go on the rock climbing trip we're had a great time we come back we're driving down the 395 which is in northern California very long stretch of highway just like nothing on every side
Starting point is 00:55:21 and you can get a little tiresome and just there's nothing much to see so like a lot of young dumb kids we you know speed up we're driving really fast we're passing cars on
Starting point is 00:55:37 you know, as the cars are on the right, you know, we're trying to pass them, go faster, get in the next lane, pass them, go forward. And we kept doing that a couple of times. And as we're doing it the final time, there's another car coming just as fast on the opposite direction towards us. And we thought, hey, we'll just pull back into the lane we started in, but the car we were passing was now right next to us. Oh, man. So we're, we're just, we're We had very little choices. None of them were good. We either hit the car.
Starting point is 00:56:11 We hit the car in front of us or we somehow just go off the road. No good choices there. Right. Somehow, we feel this big wind hit us and there's a flash of light that's almost blinding. And we're not sure if it was the car's headlights in front of us, but when we were able to see again, we were in the lane we started in. But in front of the car, we were trying to pass in the first place. And we weren't really sure how we got there. There was no honk.
Starting point is 00:56:45 There was no skitting. There was no other sound. And we just heard this ringing in our ears. And we just drove in silence for, like, the majority of the rest of the way back down to Southern California. We really had no words, no explanations. And as soon as we get, my friend drops me off first. and then he calls me when he gets home in a frantic, panic-stricken voice tone and everything. And he's like, you're not going to believe this.
Starting point is 00:57:17 But I walk into my house and my mom is reading her Bible. And when I look over to see what she's reading, it's Hebrews 13-2, which is a verse that says, do not forget to be, do not forget to show hospitality to strangers. for by doing so, some have shown hospitality to angels. And fed more into that. And angels, I guess, in human form, according to the lore, can be kind of different. Sometimes they have some type of mental illness.
Starting point is 00:57:50 It just doesn't cope well with the human body. And he told his mom the story, and she was convinced that we had met an angel that day that helped us. and that explanation for it, but we were happy to survive and lucky to survive. And if it was an angel, then that's amazing. You know, the thing is, is that we've had stories like this before, and I believe this is the thing. Sometimes I think we're delivered. So you kind of, you were like, I mean, I'll give me an example I had.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I had one time when we were moving and I was going back and forth across town with our van. and, you know, dropping off boxes and stuff. And there was this one very busy day and I had to make this uncomfortable merge. And I thought for sure, I'm like, oh, I'm stuck here. I'm merging and I can't stop and somebody's going to hit me. I thought for sure there was some, it was on, there was nowhere to go. It was kind of like what you said. And then I merged fine.
Starting point is 00:58:54 And I'm like, what just happened? Like I was just delivered. And it sounds like you had a similar thing where you guys were bracing for impact and you were just kind of delivered. Yeah, it sounds like it. I mean, we, the only we thought of is did we switch timelines or something? Like something drastically different, but some oversight by a higher power that helped us that day because we were out of luck in that moment. Well, Gabe, I believe it happens. I do believe it happens.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Thank you for joining us on the campfire. Thank you, Melissa. Stay spooky. And Gabe, you stay spooky too. Stay spooky. Thanks, Jim. When you need to build up your team to handle the growing chaos at work, use Indeed sponsored jobs. It gives your job post the boost it needs to be seen and helps reach people with the right skills,
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Starting point is 01:00:29 Keep it real. Look for the seal. Real California melt by Real California Farm Families. Chenaya is back from Oklahoma. She has a continuation of some stories. She was telling us before. And Chenaya, welcome back to the show. And if you can give us just a little brief recap, maybe some people didn't hear the first part of your story, just a little brief recap of the first part of the story. and then do please continue.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Okay. Thanks for welcoming me back, Jim. I appreciate it. So my story was about a ghost that was living in my kids' father and I. We had bought our first house and she was living there. I contacted a friend who had helped me get her to cross over and continue on. So this is basically what happened after that. And I will admit I'm a little bit more nervous because this one's a little bit more
Starting point is 01:01:25 bit more creepy to me than that first one. I know I originally said that I don't usually get creeped out, but I will say that this actually did really creep me out. So what happened was the medium that I spoke to, she had told me at that time, this was kind of a beginning for me because I'd always been kind of a searcher in the spiritual sense. And she had told me this was kind of a beginning for me and she said you know you actually have a gift that I've never seen before she said I've heard of it but I've never seen it in person but she said that gift is that you are able to help people cross over because I thought I thought everybody could do that apparently she said no but not everybody can so thinking like I mean it's kind of corny but you know like ghost
Starting point is 01:02:19 whisper you know that old show So that's kind of what I started doing after this. She taught me how to do it. And I'm telling you, we had ghosts coming and going in that house all the time. And my kids' dad was not very happy with me because at night we would hear footsteps, you know, running around in the house because it was an old house. Yeah. And he would say, you need to tell your little friends. They need to be quiet at night.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I'm trying to sleep. So after I started doing that, then came the actual medium abilities. So when I say that, I mean, I hate to use the word possession. Right. But that's similar to what it was like. And one night, my kids' dad and I were sitting on the couch because I really had. no control over this gym. It would just happen because I, like you said, I was fairly new. I didn't know how to control it. It began to happen. And what it feels like is like you're there, but you're way in the
Starting point is 01:03:35 back. So it's almost like a dream like you're watching everything happen in front of you, but you have no control over it. It's almost like an out-of-body experience to some extent in a way. Yes. Yes, I would say that. And at first, the first time it happened, and there were people around and they just thought I was crazy, you know. And I was beginning to think that too. And I, but this night, my kids' dad, he said, you are not you. He said, your eyes changed, your voice changed. He said everything was different.
Starting point is 01:04:11 And I remember, I remember thinking to myself, how funny, this is funny. because I couldn't do anything. So funny in like how weird this is, you know, it just feels different. And I remember everything that was discussed. And I could remember I could see this person that I was. And he was tall. He had a hat on. He had a pinstripe suit.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Kind of like a zoot suit type thing. Yeah. And he had a coin, and he would flip that coin. He was leaning up against the wall. And he was just, I wouldn't call it a smile. I would call it more of a smirk. And he's just watching. So my kids' dad, he starts asking questions, you know.
Starting point is 01:05:08 And he asked, why are you here? And he said, I'm watching. And he said, watching what? And he said, I'm watching her. And he said, they sent me. And he asked him, who sent you? And he said, they. That's all you need to know is they.
Starting point is 01:05:28 And he was like, well, why are you watching? He said, because they want to know what she can do. He said, they don't like it. And they want me to watch. And he said, you know, she is like a light in a. dark place. He said that's why they all come is because she's a light in the dark. And it was, it was too weird for my kids' dad. So he, you know, kind of shook me out of it. And, um, and I will say it really was strange to him. Oh, the man did say when he asked his name,
Starting point is 01:06:08 um, the man said, you can call me scout. And that's all he would say. So, um, um, After that, some things did start showing up that were a little bit on the creepier side. And I honestly believed I was going crazy. And I even went to our medicine man who had been practicing with our family for many, many years. And I told him, I said, you know, I think I'm going crazy. And he laughed at me. He said, you're not crazy. He said, people might try to tell you you are and you might think you are, but I promise you're not.
Starting point is 01:06:42 And he said, I know what you've been seeing. And I said, why didn't you say something? before and he said, I was waiting for you to come to me. And I said, well, what do I do? And he said, use it. So he said, it's a gift given to you by creator, so you use it. So fast forward, the kids is dad and I split up. And so this has been, this is a good year. I had kind of stopped doing that kind of work, no spirit work, because, you know, if you, if you don't use it, you lose it. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:16 And so I had just kind of pushed it to the back, you know, because, you know, divorces came and things were happening. Sure. Well, I had been seeing this guy. We'd only dated a few times, found out we were better friends, and he helped me move and stuff. And we would talk, not daily. But he called one night and he said, I need to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:07:42 He said, I've been having this weird dream. He said, and it keeps happening. It's a recurring dream. He said, and I need to tell you about it. I feel like I need to. And I was like, okay. So he said, in my dream, it's storming outside. I can hear it because he's in his house.
Starting point is 01:07:57 And he said, it's thundering and lightning. He said, and I hear a knock at the door. I go to the door. He said, and you're standing there and you're soaking wet and you're crying. And he said, and over your head, I can see a man standing at the street. Oh, my. He said, so I let you in. And he said, as soon as you step in, this man starts running.
Starting point is 01:08:24 And he said, and when I say run, he said, he's completely full-blown running to the door. He said, so I push you behind me and I'm standing at the door thinking I'm getting ready to fight. But when he gets to the door, he stops and he can't come any further. Huh. And he said, what do you think that means? And I said, well, I don't know. I said, tonight, maybe ask him. I said, so before you go to bed, you know, tell yourself, I'm going to talk to this man if I dream this again.
Starting point is 01:08:54 So the next night, he calls me back. And he said, I did what you said to do. And I talked to him. And I said, oh, what did he say? You know, I was kind of excited. And he said, well, he said, I ask him, what do you want? And he said, he pointed at you and said, her. Oh boy. And he said, why? And he said, and I'm just telling you what was told to me. I know it sounds, I don't want to sound presumptuous, you know.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Right. But he said, you need to watch her, take care of her, because she's special. And then he turned, he turned and walked away. Oh, my goodness. So I said, uh, I said, I said, well, John, what did this guy look like? And he said, well, when I would see him standing, you know, down at the street, he said he always had a hat on and he was kind of tall. And he said he had like these old shoes on, like an older. And I said, was he wearing a suit suit? And he said, yes. He said it was like an old suit from like the 30s or 40s or something.
Starting point is 01:10:13 He looked like a gangster. And I said, John, did he have a coin in his hand? And he said, Chenaya, who is this guy? He said, yes, he had a coin, and he would stand there and flip it. Oh, wow. Yeah, I just, it gives me goosebumps even. So, and, you know, that's the last I ever heard from him. And like I said, I haven't tried over these, over many, many years to do that kind of work.
Starting point is 01:10:42 and I'm kind of wondering if bringing it up now isn't going to make it start happening again. Because, you know, occasionally I'll see things out of the corner of my eye or I might hear a small whisper. Right. But it's those little things that make you think, well, I'm just hearing things, you know. So, but anyway, I thought, you know, after all these years, maybe it's time to share that story. But I know it may not seem really creepy to some people, but to me, for, because, well, you know, like I said, I thought I was crazy. And for then, for John to have that dream, and he kind of confirmed that I wasn't crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Like, yet that really happened. And because John did not, I never even met him until after I was divorced. Well, you, you, you, you just have come across with a, you know, sincere, uh, story. I don't want people ever have to feel, well, my story is not creepy enough. It's too creepy. It's not scary enough. It's too scary. I want people to come on and say, this is what happened to me. And I don't, you know, things that don't have, quote, logical explanations. And other than it's supernatural, which I think is, you know, perfectly, I'm biased, but I think that's perfectly logical. So I don't feel that people think stories have to
Starting point is 01:12:04 have a scare factor. And they don't. I mean, for example, one time I saw a critique of somebody about this show and said it's not scary enough. And it's like, good, because this show isn't about being, not making things scarier than they are or making them less scary. It's about communicating real experiences. And that's what you've done, Janaya. So I appreciate it very much. And thank you for sharing it. How do you feel about having this sensitivity or connection? How is it something you've come to peace with? What do you think about it? I think it's really, it's like our medicine man told me it's a blessing, you know. I feel like actually I know there's not really a way for me to know that I've helped,
Starting point is 01:12:55 but in my heart I know that I have helped a few to go where it is that they need to go. For instance, and my niece was with me when this happened, but we helped one man who, stayed because he wanted to be with his brother. They were very close. His brother passed on and then he was still here. And so I helped him and we would use like a spirit board, not a Ouija board. It was something a little bit different. But I know I helped him because like it, the planchette literally came off of the board onto the carpet and across the floor to me.
Starting point is 01:13:37 And he said, thank you. And you would just, I would have to show you to know. But so I really feel like it's a blessing. Again, I don't know that I will continue that work. I feel like it's probably a waste if I don't. So I probably will at some point. And we'll see what happens, you know. It's different.
Starting point is 01:14:07 We appreciate very much. Thank you for sharing the show or sharing the story on the show. We appreciate it very much. Have a great day. And thanks for being a part of the campfire and stay spooky. Stay spooky, Jim. Thank you. Alex is on the line from the great state of Missouri, the show me state.
Starting point is 01:14:28 And he's not going to show us, but he's going to tell us the story tonight. Specifically, signs from his grandma. He's been listening for 10 years. We're very appreciative of that. Alex, welcome. to the show and tell us about these signs. Of course. Thank you so much, Jim.
Starting point is 01:14:45 So I have been told when my grandma was alive that I was her favorite. And when I was younger, I was like, oh, that's not true. But then as I reflected on life, I thought, oh, maybe it is true. My siblings would tell me that. My cousins would tell me that. So I feel like when she passed, she wanted to let her presence know, basically. basically. So what I feel is actually my grandma visiting me was our first event happened when I was traveling with my wife to go visit her family. It was it was snowing outside on the roads in
Starting point is 01:15:27 Utah and we were driving with the heat blasted on and out of nowhere this smell of perfume came through the air vents. And me just thinking to myself, like, oh, that's a little weird. I don't, that's not a smell we use. That's not just something we have in the car. And I was like, well, maybe it's just me. And then my wife turns to me and says,
Starting point is 01:15:51 hey, do you smell that? And I was like, okay, okay. So it's not just me. And it was the smell that my grandmother would use all the time. Yeah. So she would, that's just how I recognize it was hers because that's, that is her smell. And the fact that we both smelled it was just confirmation that she was there with us. Well, we were, you know, visiting family.
Starting point is 01:16:18 So that was pretty neat. Yeah. And that was the first event. The second one, so my grandmother and my mom look a lot alike. And my daughter, when she was one or two years old, and this was, years after my grandma had passed. So she'd never met her. I don't even think she's really seen a picture of her to this day.
Starting point is 01:16:40 But we're sitting in her room. We're just playing. And she looks up above the bed and she says, hi, Amma, which is what my daughter calls my mom is Amma. And I was like, well, that's, there's no one in here. Who are you talking to? She says, I'm talking to Amma.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Or who am I looking at? Who are you looking at? She said she's looking at Amma. And I looked over the bed. Of course, no one was there. But it was interesting for her to think that she saw her mom and who I feel was actually my grandma coming to pay her a visit. And then the last one, this one, I was resting because I had a late. school event, and I was getting, you know, just some sleep in after work before class started.
Starting point is 01:17:39 And I thought I had set my alarm, and I did not. And I was sleeping just in a dream, and I hear a large knock above my head. And, oh, you had wooden headboards at the time. And this loud knock happens, and I wake up, I'm like, oh, that must have been a dream. What was that? And I look at my phone to see what time it was and it was right at the time when I was supposed to wake up but I realized I had not set an alarm and so I think that was my grandma saying hey got to wake up it's time to get up and go to class so that's so cool I think you know I think they do have signs and specifically because they do things that are meaningful to you and that will resonate with you and that will resonate with you and specifically because um they do things that are meaningful to you and that will resonate with you and I do think they give us signs. I really do. I really do. And it sounds like your, your grandma is kind of still around. And that's got to be comforting, no? Mm-hmm. It is. Because she was very important in our lives with me and my family and having her pass away from cancer. You know, it's sooner than you want, but it's good to know that she's still
Starting point is 01:18:57 with us and being as religious as we are believing in life after. death, believing in, you know, resurrection and angels and all that. You know, it's more of an affirmation of that, you know, that really is a possibility of that out there. Especially with things happen that, you just can't explain. That's a good point. Well, Alex, thank you for joining us tonight and sharing this very special story on the campfire. Thanks so much, Jim. Stay spooky. Stay spooky.
Starting point is 01:19:28 We have a return caller. Sarah is on the line from Wales. was so glad to hear from our friends over in the UK. And it's interesting, I was telling Sarah, she had called before and I didn't immediately recognize her because before we used to do audio only. Now we do audio and video. So, you know, it's the first time I'm getting to see a lot of our callers. So it's like, oh, yes, we did talk before.
Starting point is 01:19:52 So I'm so glad. Sarah, I know you have a story about your sister. Please, please tell us your experience. Well, it's kind of about messages from beyond the grave, really, and a way proving myself right, which is always a good thing. Now, my sister, I was my sister's third birthday present. She was a very feisty, strong-minded, no-nonsense person, a little bit scary when you're young, but she was a very kind and decent person. didn't spend an awful lot of time with her because she ran off to live in North America in her early 20s.
Starting point is 01:20:34 So we spent a long time not being close. But with FaceTime and everything like that, we got close again. And then very sadly, she ended up living in Vancouver. I stayed in the UK. She ended up getting breast cancer. So she went through some terrible, terrible treatment. She was allergic to the chemotherapy and she really suffered. briefly got the okay that it was all gone
Starting point is 01:21:03 and then only weeks later it returned with a vengeance and this time she knew that she wasn't going to survive and she was devastated because she had a family but in Canada you got assisted dying at home so she arranged her own last day and in the days leading up to it because we used to talk very candidly I said to her okay, well, you need to send me a message from beyond the grave. And she said, no, don't be ridiculous,
Starting point is 01:21:34 because once you're dead, you're dead. And that is the end of it. But on the off chance, let's say, on the off chance that there are options to send messages from beyond the grave, let's decide on what it's going to be. And she was getting exasperated with, and I don't really want to press her. But she went, oh, okay, hummingbirds. And I said, well, that's not overly helpful. to me because there were no hummingbirds in the UK. But anyway, she went, well, that's it. And then we moved on. I didn't want to press her.
Starting point is 01:22:07 And as I say, days later, she died. And then she'd been trying to force me and a friend that she'd gone to school with who lived near me together. We both missed her. So we went to lunch together. And I didn't really know her. But we met. and she was saying, oh, did you know I paint foxes?
Starting point is 01:22:31 I said, I didn't know that actually, but she said, I knew this morning I was having trouble and I couldn't get this fox's face right. So I googled foxes. So I got a whole page of thumbnails of foxes and except one picture in the middle. And she said, it was weird. And I said, well, what was it? And she said it was a hummingbird. I'm like, oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 01:22:57 But, you know, but you don't. no, that's not, you can't put all your eggs in that basket. So I went, well, that's weird because also, you know, when you, when you talk by your computer, you get these things coming. Yes. So, you know, you just don't. So, I mean, after, after she died, I got invited to an online hummingbird seminar, which was like odd, but yeah, I think, I think Facebook was listening.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Anyway, as time went on, um, she, it became winter. So her niece, who had had a little boy who was only one when my sister died, she rang me and she said something so weird is happening. And I said, what is it? She said, there's a hummingbird that's been tapping on my balcony window all days, if to get attention in the middle of winter. And you know, you get chills because that's so weird.
Starting point is 01:23:57 And then the next day it was still there tapping on the window. And she was so concerned for it. She went out and bought heated hummingbird feeder. And then something I've missed, which is very relevant, is just about that time. And incredibly unexpectedly, this was two years ago. My husband was killed. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, well, me too.
Starting point is 01:24:23 But he rolled his eyes when I ever started talking about anything which he thought was slightly out there. Anyway, so after she'd bought the heated feeder, the next day there were two of them. And my niece rang me and she said, now there were two of them. And I thought, but that's not it. I mean, that's, well, that is probably the most major thing
Starting point is 01:24:50 because it was apparently a very rare type of hummingbird, obviously they'd all cleared off. They should have migrated south. But then a couple of months ago, my niece was going to Europe, Euro Disney or whatever it's called, with her little boy who's just turned four. And she'd had subsequently had a little baby, so she's one, who she's named after my sister. And she said, would you like to meet up in Portugal after we've done all the Euro Disney stuff? And I said, yeah, sure. So we met up in Portugal. And we were walking along.
Starting point is 01:25:31 And my sister's spirit seems to be incredibly strong because the little lad would not remember my sister. So he's four now. She died nearly three years ago. And my niece was saying it's so lovely here. And the work she does, she could work anywhere. So she said, did you know what? I could live here.
Starting point is 01:25:53 I could live in Portugal. It's so nice. And then the little lad said, no, Granny says we have to go back to Canada, however nice it is here. You know, because he apparently chatted to my sister every night. And it wasn't,
Starting point is 01:26:09 Granny says, I can have ice creams or granny says, you need to buy me lots of presents. It was always relatively sensible stuff. So, you know, that was amazing. So me and my niece were walking along the street this enormous white feather
Starting point is 01:26:23 fell out of a clear blue sky. We were just walking down this medieval town. And that was all because there were no trees. It was... And she went, oh my God, I forgot to tell you.
Starting point is 01:26:33 And I said, yes. And she said, on the way here, we were in the airport. And you know those message boards, notice, those ones that give you all the plane updates. She said it was completely blank.
Starting point is 01:26:47 So I was just standing there waiting. And she said, suddenly it went and it was a hummingbird. And I just... And so that's convinced me that I have been right all these years. But when I came home,
Starting point is 01:27:05 I was telling a friend of mine on the phone and I said, my sister is like she's got powers from, you know, extraordinary. And I said, you know, I wish I could hear from my husband more. And we'd always had a little sign, I don't know if it's the same in America
Starting point is 01:27:22 because you don't have the same birds as us but we have those little robins I know you have your own but these are our little European robins and they always say in British folklore something like if a robin appears loved ones are near
Starting point is 01:27:37 and we had an incident when my husband was alive where our beloved dog died and we had to take our other dog for a walk and we walked across the road and a robin sat on a fence honestly about a foot away from our faces and just sang for about two minutes and we were just standing there so maybe robins are a thing so anyway so i was telling a friend of mine about the hummingbirds and the airport and everything and i was kind of laughing saying you know my husband
Starting point is 01:28:06 he needs to step up his game you know she's simply left right and center and then the very next day i was talking to another friend on the phone went up to my bed which is far into this little house I now live in. And on the bed was a robin sitting under the photograph I've got by the side of my bed of my husband. And it didn't panic. It wasn't fluttering around having a nervous breakdown. It just sat there looking at me. And I got the dog with me.
Starting point is 01:28:38 So I got the dog out, closed the door, opened all the windows, and went, you've sent me a seriously good message here. And then it hopped around a bit and fluttered out the window. Wow. And as I say, my husband would have been rolling his eyes, but he has certainly changed his tune. And likewise, my sister. They get across their messages in ways that are meaningful to us and ways they recognize or we recognize. And I am utterly convinced of that I've heard too many stories.
Starting point is 01:29:15 It's a real thing. Sarah, again, I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm glad that you've been able to get these messages, and I thank you for sharing your stories today on the Campfire. You're welcome. You're welcome. Next up is Eric from Iowa. He's been listening for a couple of years. We're so glad to have him on the show, and he has a unique story. I don't know that we may have had a story something like this way back in the annals of Campfire,
Starting point is 01:29:43 but not a lot, and it is an interesting thing. and I may actually have something to add on this one. Eric, tell us your story. Okay, well, thanks, Jim. Thanks for having me on. This story goes back a number of years, so it would have been in the mid-80s when this first started. So when I was a pre-teen, teenage, you know, 12 to 14 years old,
Starting point is 01:30:08 I grew up in a small town in Iowa. So in the summers, you know, around that time, there wasn't a whole lot on TV in the summers. I know TV, we didn't have as many channels. And it wasn't a whole lot to do. We didn't have central air either. So in the summer evenings, I would occasionally go out and just walk around town. Again, it was a small town in Iowa.
Starting point is 01:30:33 And so no big deal. But occasionally at night, I would come across as I'm approaching a streetlight, a street light would flicker off. as I approached. And now it wouldn't happen every time. It happened a handful of times. And I just kind of figured, you know, maybe it's reading my, you know, I'm casting a shadow on some sensor and it's reading that.
Starting point is 01:31:02 But I remember specifically one time I stormed out of the house, upset about something. And I got a couple of blocks from the house. And I don't know if I did it, but I noticed that there was probably three or four lights in a row. I walked three to four blocks in a row with the light would go off, flicker off. I'd get halfway through the block and then, you know, then it would start flickering back on and the next light would go off. I thought that was pretty weird. I didn't really think too much about it other than that's kind of awkward.
Starting point is 01:31:40 that doesn't normally happen. Right. And as I got older, I was still able to do, you know, still able to do it once in a while. Again, I could never do it intentionally,
Starting point is 01:31:50 but it was still one of those things that would happen occasionally, even in a car I would drive by slowly. And once in a while, a light would flicker off. Just thought something unusual. Didn't think much more about it. Now,
Starting point is 01:32:02 the story gets a little more interesting. About 20 years later, I was teaching a martial arts class. in a different town. Not too far away, but teaching a martial arts class. And these were kids who were probably 11, 14 years old, kind of the same age group that I was at the time of the incident
Starting point is 01:32:25 with the street light. But came out of class with this one boy about 12 years old, get outside the door of the facility. And it leads to the top of some stairs. So that lead out to a small parking lot. So we stepped outside and he looks at me and says, hey, watch this. And he takes his finger and he points at the street light and he looks at it for about four seconds and it flickers off. It was the craziest thing.
Starting point is 01:33:02 He just looks at me with a big grin on his face, shrugs your shoulders. and he just didn't really say anything and just took off running down the steps to his parents' car. And it was, I just stood there with my mouth open, just dumbfounded on how he did that. So he obviously knew that he was able to control it somehow. I have no idea, still to this day, I have no idea. And just like me, I didn't have any conscious control of lights. And it may not have been, it may have just been a coincidence. I had no idea.
Starting point is 01:33:36 But this boy, he apparently knew that he had some sort of ability to turn that, flicker that light off. And he wasn't standing right below it. He was, you know, probably 40 yards away, I guess. No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if you know this, but this is a thing. There's been a book written about this. I'm just going to read from Wikipedia.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Now, keep in mind that Wikipedia, almost always comes from the skeptical perspective. But I'm just going to read the paragraph that kind of talks about it. Streetlight interference sometimes called high-voltage syndrome is the claimed ability of individuals to turn streetlights on or off when passing near them.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Believers in street-life interference allege that they experience on a regular basis with specific lamps in streetlights and more frequently than chance would explain. Of course, here comes their debunker statement. However, SLI has never been demonstrated to occur in a scientific experience. and those who claim the ability have been found to be unable to reproduce the effect on demand.
Starting point is 01:34:41 The term streetlight interference was coined by proponent of paranormal phenomena author Hillary Evans. So she actually had a book out in 19. I don't know if that's a he or a she because Hillary could be a male. But Evans has a book that was out in 1993 called the S-L-I effect. So I didn't know if you knew that, but I thought I would share that this is a known thing. And I would take whatever Wikipedia says about any paranormal phenomena with a grain of salt because they 100% come from the debunker. Not that everything has to be believed all the time, but you know, you could have a White House UFO land on a White House loan and they would say, well, it allegedly landed. So, I mean, you know, they're super skeptics over there.
Starting point is 01:35:29 But the point is, is that it's a known thing. and I think we did have maybe one person on campfire years ago that had something. But I believe it because also what's interesting to me, what you said about your experience in this young man, you know, Poldergeist is well known to almost correlate with teenagers, adolescents, those kind of things. So to me, this is just like kind of an extension of that. Right, yeah, I hadn't thought about that.
Starting point is 01:35:58 You know, like I said, at the time that it happened, me and when I was younger, I never gave it too much thought. Just kind of thought, oh, gosh, that's kind of unusual. But I can never do it on purpose. It was always kind of, you know, sometimes it happens. Sometimes it did. And so it's, yeah. But now it seems like something that you've, quote, outgrown. And it doesn't happen anymore. It has. Yeah, I haven't able to do it since I became an adult. It kind of gradually over time, it happened less and less often. And now it doesn't happen at all. I know I could walk around or drive and a car or nothing. happens at all. So I don't know if it's a case of more lights or LED lights. You know, I don't, I don't
Starting point is 01:36:39 Right. It could be different circuitry that's impacted. I believe that people have energy. Obviously, that 12-year-old kid, that's impressive, that he could just say, watch this. I mean, that's, he may have had a more controlled version of what you had, but it sounds like you had it too. And it is, because as soon as I read this, I'm like, oh, this is a thing. This is not just Eric. This is like observed and been written about and studied. And I think at one point, it may be on, I'll just going to look real quick. It may be an article on it. Years ago, we had some folks writing for our website. And I thought that we did an article about that. I'm just taking a quick look. Don't mean to take everybody's time looking this up. Let me just look up one more thing.
Starting point is 01:37:31 But I think that we may have actually had and still do probably street light. Let's just see if that pops up. Yeah. We had a story or no, it was a link. It was a link to another story. So that's probably not there anymore. But yeah, it definitely is, it is something that is a known phenomenon. You've experienced it.
Starting point is 01:37:59 this 12-year-old kid experience. If you've got a story out there like this, please do sign up Jimherald.com slash campfire. Jimherald.com slash campfire. Absolutely fascinating. Well, Eric, if you ever get it figured out, let us know. If you regain that ability, let us know. And thank you for being a part of the campfire.
Starting point is 01:38:17 And stay spooky. All right. Thank you, Jim. Stay spooky. Thanks so much for joining us on yet another edition of the Campfire. Thank you to all of our storytellers. as I tell our storytellers when I record with them, if it weren't for them, there would be no show.
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