Jim Harold's Campfire - Haunted Warehouse - Jim Harold's Campfire 768

Episode Date: July 2, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:20 Next up on the campfire is Christopher from Massachusetts and he heard about us from the Great Coast to Coast A.M and I'll just put in a little programming notes since Christopher mentioned it. by the time you see this, I will have recently released an episode on the paranormal podcast, the paranormal podcast. That's one of my other free shows. And it's with Richard Searrett, who is a regular guest host on Coast to Coast A.M. does a fabulous job. And he wrote a book called The Rock and Roll Twilight Zone. I might not be getting that exactly right, but that's the just the rock and roll Twilight Zone. and he actually did an interview on the paranormal podcast with me about it. I happened to write the foreword for the book. And just a fascinating chat. So if you're into rock and roll history and strange deaths surrounding rock stars, check out that episode of the paranormal podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:18 But that's not why we're here today. Christopher is here to talk about his home built in 1790. That's right. 1790. Very cool. Christopher, thank you for joining us and tell us about this house. Well, thanks again, Jim, for having me on. So you're right, 1790.
Starting point is 00:02:41 So if you think about it, I mean, that's only 14 years after we gained our independence. This house has been around a long time, a lot of history. I can only imagine the amount of families that have been through this house. So my story starts just after Thanksgiving, my daughter, was in kindergarten at the time and she was in an after school care program. And I picked her up from school. And this time of the year, it was getting sort of dark. It was already dark at that point in time when I brought her home, which was, you know, a little bit after 5 o'clock. And she had this thing where, you know, as soon as we got home, she would like to, as soon as we got on the door, she would like to run off somewhere in the house and hide. And she made it, she made a game of it. And it was always, it was always my job to try to find her.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And she would try to scare me and she just got a kick out of it. So, you know, we walked in and there she takes off running. And I, I walk upstairs to my bedroom. And her bedroom is right across the hall from my wife's in our bedroom. and the only light that was in the area at the time was the light from the hallway and I opened my bedroom door and I saw a silhouette of Cassidy. That's my daughter's named Cassidy on the other side of the bed. And I saw her fingers who I thought was Cassidy at the time. We'll get to that in a moment. I saw her fingers on the bed and she ducked below.
Starting point is 00:04:23 the level of the bed, which was always one of her favorite hiding spots. So I said, oh, Cassidy, I see you. I hear a little giggling. I turn on the light. I go around to the side of the bed. There's nobody there. Now, Cassidy, at that point in time, she pops out of her own bedroom, says, Dad, I'm right here.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And since then, since then, I do hear voice. of a child that's that's there giggling clearing a throat. So there's definitely, I feel like there is a presence, although playful as it may be. And you think that it was kind of maybe doing the trickster kind of thing, the doppelganger kind of thing, pretending to be Cassidy? I think so, because the silhouette looked exactly like my daughter. I mean, I even saw fingers. Because the light coming from the hallway, I didn't exactly make out of face.
Starting point is 00:05:31 But I just assumed it was my daughter. And as soon as I turned on the light, yeah. And if I may, there's been two other short stories. Please do. I was in my kitchen at one point in time. I was sitting on a bench in our kitchen, put it on my shoes, and I was talking to my daughter. Beyond her, I see a green glowing orb floating out of our downstairs bathroom and floating over into our dining room just above the dining room table. And it kind of did like
Starting point is 00:06:11 a circular motion. As soon as I made eye contact with it, it went like a lightning bolt up into the ceiling and it was gone. And the only. other, the only other instance that we've had in the house so far, knock on wood, is my, my younger sister is somewhat sensitive. We say that she has a third eye. And she came in and was talking with me. I was doing the dishes at one point. She visited me. And she was talking to me in the kitchen. And she looked the same direction I did when I saw the green orb. And she kind of just did a double take and then we just kept on our conversation. Well, it wasn't until two weeks after that that I had asked her. I said, you know, by the way, when you visited me the other week, you stopped and you looked
Starting point is 00:07:02 into the dining room. Did you see something? She said very plain, you know, very plainly, she said, oh, yes, I saw a woman in a long black dress, looked like a Victorian dress, walked from your guest bedroom, from your guest bedroom into your library. but I didn't think of anything of it. It was just something I noticed. No big deal. No big deal. No big deal.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah, just like every day as if like, you know, a cat walking by or something. So like something like that, I could believe like it was residual. But the thing with your daughter, that seems different. That seems more sentient, more intentional because that seems like, hey, I'm going to, you know, make believe, I'm your daughter, as opposed to this could seem very residual. So what do you think is going on at the house? Well, I think, you know, as soon as when we moved into this house, we've, we just got a feeling of love in the house. You know, when you walk into a house, you can just, you can just sense a vibe in a house. And when we, when we, when we're
Starting point is 00:08:15 thinking about, after, after which we were thinking about purchasing it, which we ended up doing, you could just feel just decades of love in that house. There was nothing malicious, perhaps present, but, you know, nothing malicious at all. You can sense that there was just, you know, centuries of or decades of love in that house. I think the presence that I encountered upstairs in our bedroom in the hallways. I think it's just playful. I think it's just there. And from time to time, it just chooses to interact with me.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And it's just been me. It hasn't been my daughter. It hasn't been my wife. Why do you think it's you? Perhaps because I'm open to it. My wife is somewhat of a non-believer. My daughter is very much a believer. She actually, she listens to your show with me when we're, we're on road trips or even going to the local grocery store.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Stay spooky. Stay spooky. Absolutely. Hey, say that one more time because she's going to be listening to this. Cassidy, thanks for listening and stay spooky and listen to your day. Oh, she's going to love that. That's right. She's a good kid.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Well, hey, it sounds like she's got a good head on her shoulder. listening to the campfire. No, seriously, that's great. No doubt. Christopher, thank you, thank you for this. I'm almost fascinated about historic places. I think about some of the buildings, I mean, you know, obviously New England's very, very old. But there are places in Cleveland, you know, some of these old buildings that were built at the turn of the last century. Some of it, we had Rockefeller and the great industrialists.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And for example, our public library is like amazing. in these marble staircases and you know and you walk in there and it feels i don't know there's something about it feels like it's of a different time it really does not only just visually you just get a feeling and i'm guessing your house is the same way you get this feeling i'm guessing when you go in right oh absolutely and there's so much about it that has changed i imagine throughout the years um but you know it has the original uh wide pine floors um you know it has there's there's very much a lot about it like the foundation or the fieldstone basement that that's very much original and you just you feel like you're stepping back in time and we love it
Starting point is 00:10:58 it takes a certain type of person to love that but we we absolutely fell in love with it very cool Christopher thank you and thanks Cassidy and stay spooky stay spooky Jim thank you so much for your time welcome to Jim Harold's campfire I'm Jim and this is the campfire where real people gather to tell their paranormal stories. Welcome to our program. And, you know, people tune in and they say, well, Jim, I understand you've been doing these shows for over 20 years now.
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Starting point is 00:12:42 And now let's get on to the next great. campfire story. You'll remember a while back, Steve was on the show and talked about his encounter with an entity in Guam. Well, there is a continuation to that story, and Steve is joining us again today from Hawaii. And I love this when people come on and say, hey, there's an update or there's another part to the story. I really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And I appreciate Steve being here. So, Steve, thank you for joining us again. And I think maybe a good thing to do, you know, we have new people dipping in and out all the time. If you could give us a brief synopsis of what happened originally and then we can take the story from there. Please go ahead. Sure. Thanks, Jim. So the story that I have is a continuation of a story that happens to me when I was 14 years old on the island of Guam. I'm from that island. I'm a howley, but I am from there. And that story happened at my brother and sister-in-law's house where I was able to track an entity or some sort of being that came across from behind
Starting point is 00:13:51 Mount Santa Rosa across the jungle canopy into my house or their house. And our dog started to act crazy, started biting at air. And I was pinned down by this entity for about like 30 seconds. And the dog then attacked the ground where this entity shot into it. And I spoke to my sister-in-law after the episode had aired. And she wanted me to make a couple of corrections, one that she never really saw the entity, but she felt what it was and what it was like. Okay. And she reacted to what was happening to me and how the dog was reacting by biting at air.
Starting point is 00:14:33 The second important part was, there was a key part that I left out. And where that entity shot into the ground, there was my brother's bowling ball bag. It didn't have a bowling ball in it, but there was a bowling ball bag there. And the dog, Kuma, he tore that bowling bag apart. Wow. Yeah, we just witnessed him going crazy with the bowling ball bag. For no reason other than this entity was right there. And he couldn't, I guess, bite the entity.
Starting point is 00:15:01 So he bit the bowling ball bag. And the third one is that we both didn't feel. safe at the house so we stayed at my parents house so we left that house because we felt that the entity had not left it now my sister-in-law for this next part of the story which happens 20 years later so first one happened may of 1984 this is now December of 2004 and she's also integral but she was not present something happened to her around the same time so she had a bad experience with this entity and this she's on the island a Saipan at this time which is about 120 miles north of Guam.
Starting point is 00:15:40 She had gone to bed and had her youngest daughter in bed with her, and her youngest daughter was about 11 at this time. And she was a very sound sleeper, so daughter went to bed, wasn't moving, sister-in-law was still awake, and her daughter was asleep next to her, and she felt somebody come up beside the bed. And she couldn't see it, but she just felt this evil presence that started pacing. So my sister-in-law, being a good Catholic, started saying the Lord's Prayer. And as soon as she started doing that, it stopped pacing.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And my sister-in-law shot up from bed to look at her daughter, who was now completely turned around with her head at the bottom of the bed and her feet at the top of the bed. And she doesn't move when she sleeps, but she had been completely turned 180 when this thing happened. So the very next day she went to the Catholic Church and contacted the priest. The priest came out and they had the house blessed. And they haven't had any problems since that time, but I had a problem exactly at that time.
Starting point is 00:16:51 It had just, when it happened to her, I guess it came over to Guam and decided to mess with me yet again. So I'm now back on Guam. And the Air Force and their infinite wisdom decided to send me back to Guam as my very first assignment when I had been trying to leave Guam to go explore the world. But the Air Force says, hey, you're going to go back to Guam. So I was assigned to Anderson Air Force Base. And I lived on Palau Loop on Anderson. I'm not going to give the house name because the house still exists and I don't want to scare any people that live inside the house. Sure. That's smart. I like that.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And the houses on Anderson, they're all, a lot of them are duplexes. They're all beige. They're all made out of concrete, very sturdy, strong houses because they have to withstand typhoons. And this house was actually just a couple of houses down from when my dad was assigned to Anderson. So I lived on the exact same street, maybe about five houses down from where I grew up. So it was really cool. My wife and daughter were in Japan visiting her parents, my in-laws. But I had to stay behind on Guam because we're having an exercise called Terminal Fury.
Starting point is 00:17:59 It happens every two years. It doesn't happen anymore, but it happens every two years. So this is December of 2004. And this week-long exercise, I get home about 1,400. So 2 o'clock. It's the end of the exercise. And I pulled a 20-hour day because we're finishing up the exercise. I go shower, get cleaned off.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And then I go into the den where we have our computer. And it's a three-bedroom house, and they had newly renovated it. So it's open concept. This is an integral to the story because the kitchen, dining room, and living room all saw each other. There's no place to hide or anything like that. So I'm on the computer. I'm checking emails. The computer is right below the window.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I can see up and down Palau Loop. There's no cars. There's no traffic. There's no clouds. And absolutely nothing to make any shadows, which is also important. So I finished checking my emails. And then I turn around sitting on the chair to face the doorway to get up and go out to the hallway and I saw it. It's the very first time I saw it.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Now, I had experienced it other times since 1984. This is the first time I actually saw this thing. It was, again, seven foot tall. It was a shadow amorphous, but kind of human shaped. And it crossed the doorway, walking through the hallway, heading into the living. room. So I jumped up like this effing thing and I ran after it and I run into the living room and there's nothing there and I can see the entire house and there's no place for this to hike. So I called it out and I'm saying you eff and think, you know, get the F out of this house.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And I heard nothing. And this went on for about a week where it would cross. the hallway really quickly. And it was just pissing me off. After about a week, my wife and daughter come home, and to celebrate, decided to take them out. We went down to the Hyatt Hotel because they had a really good buffet. And while we're at dinner, my daughter was getting her, she was getting some food. And my wife leans over to me, and she says, I have something to tell you.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And her tone was really serious. And I thought something bad had happened like she had. an affair, well, she was in Japan or something. It was just an ominous stone. Right. Something monumental, yes. Yeah, monumental. And it turned out it was because what she said to me said, I've seen something in the house.
Starting point is 00:20:41 And then she went on to describe exactly what I had seen. She described a shadow figure going from our room to my daughter's bedroom. And she had seen her a couple of times. And of note, my daughter had always refused to sleep in that room. Since we moved into that house, she slept with us because she was fearful of that room. So here we are. We're at dinner. It's about 8.30 at night. And I'm thinking, great, we're driving home at night to a house that has this thing in it. As soon as we park, I go in and I tell my wife and daughter stay in the truck. And I go and I despoofy the house by turning on every single light.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And then I go into the middle of the living room and I call it out. by saying a bunch of four-letter words because it was effing with my family because I have no problem with it messing with me but now it was messing with my wife and daughter crossed a line crossed a line yeah and I told it just that and I yelled at it and I spent a good two minutes just cursing this thing out and I ended it by saying let me know you understand and I didn't hear anything and I so I yelled it and it after I yelled at it the entire house shook. It wasn't an earthquake. Yes, Guam's prone to earthquakes, but no earthquake was registered. My neighbor, it's a duplex house, so the neighbor would sure have felt it. And when I talked to him a couple days later, it said, did you feel anything the other night? No.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It was also now nine o'clock at night. And since we're on an Air Force base, some people might say it's a sonic boom. It wasn't a sonic boom. Anderson at that time did not host fighter jets. We had B-52 bombers. And they don't go supersonic. It was just the entire house just shook. And that's when I knew it understood, and it left me alone.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And that's when I think it attached itself to my daughter, because that's when she started having experiences. Not too long after that, we PCS, which is a military move, and went to an assignment on the mainland. And we went to Edwards Air Force Base. And as soon as we got there, I walked in the door and the entire house shook. And that's how I knew that it had followed us. The bookend.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Yeah. And that's it. So it followed you now. So did this continue to go on for years? Did it continue to plague your family? Maybe this is another call where you talk about this, but were there more events after this? Yeah, not at Edwards. We only had one other thing at Edwards, but it was just the shadow figure.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And, you know, we were there for three years. I only saw it one time. But we went on to our next assignment. It made its presence known to my daughter. And that's when she started speaking about it. and just moving things in her presence. I don't think she had any physical contact with it, but definitely she saw it and she saw it had things occur to her.
Starting point is 00:24:02 So she saw it much more than I ever did. Forgive me from our first call, because I may not remember you may have addressed this, but why do you think it picked on you? Yeah, I don't know. I just remember being 14 because it was picking on a 14-year-old. And then 20 years later, you know, I'm an adult. And I stood up to it and I guess it didn't like it that much.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I don't know why it's attached to us. I honestly don't. It's around, though. It makes itself known from time to time, primarily with my daughter. I haven't seen it in a couple of years. But it does make itself known. And I did say the last time, when we do talk about it, it tends to make its presence known. That is not the case this time.
Starting point is 00:24:52 It has not shown up. My daughter is actually here visiting us right now. And it's not here. Oh, that's excellent. That's excellent. Well, Steve, please keep us up to date if it does anything. And the best to you and your family. And thanks for sharing your story.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I believe these kind of entities, these darker entities do exist. I think they follow people. We've had these stories over the year. We had one woman in one of our books that followed or clear across the country. Sounds like you had a similar experience. Thank you for being on the show and sharing it. Thank you again, Jim. Really appreciate it.
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Starting point is 00:26:57 and he heard of us from the great astonishing legends, and we always appreciate Scott and Forrest, flying the banner high, and right back at him, they do a fantastic deep dive job on paranormal topics. They do fantastic job. So thank you, Scott and Forrest. Well, Preston,
Starting point is 00:27:16 is here and he has a workplace story. I love workplace stories, and this sounds like a humdinger to use a technical term. Maybe that's Preston, maybe that's why people think I'm 95 years old. And then they see the video and say, you're not that old. But I tend to use those dated phrases. But anyway, point is, it is a humdinger. And Preston's going to tell us all about. Preston, welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Tell us what happened. Thank you, Jim. So my experience with this story takes place in a small cotton farming and mining town in southeastern Arizona. It took place at work probably roughly little less than 20 years ago. It kind of goes over a little bit of time. So I started working at this medical supply delivery or medical supplies warehouse, essentially. and I was a delivery driver there. And so I've been working there for a little while,
Starting point is 00:28:15 and there were only about maybe five of us working there in any given time, just a real small little business. And we'd deliver hospital beds, oxygen, medical equipment, all over southeastern Arizona there. And after I've been working there for a little bit, I was oftentimes alone in the warehouse, in the back, in the small building in kind of an old downtown area
Starting point is 00:28:44 from like the 1870s or so in this town. And so one of the first odd things that I noticed is I was in the opposite end of the building with some of the other staff there and just out of the blue, it kind of started out kind of weird. Just the toilet flushes in one of the bathrooms in the opposite end of the warehouse.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And I thought, oh, that's funny. That's weird. random. Didn't think too much of it. But the, a little bit after that, there was a, you know, other things started popping up. One of the things that I noticed was there was, like, I'd be sitting in the warehouse or working on something and I'd see like a, like a shadow move across my first vision. Off in the warehouse area there. And I just kind of like look over a little bit and, you know, nothing over there. And this happened a bunch of times, but nothing I could really identify. And then one of the, probably the strangest thing that happened there, one of the strangest paranormal things that ever happened to me was I come into the office at the end of the day. It was probably around sunset or so. Everybody else had gone home for the day.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I come in the back door. I had this desk sitting in the back of the warehouse where I would do my paperwork at the end of the day. And there was, yeah, you know, the lighting was kind of dim there, you know, just enough light creeping in from the front window and the back there I didn't feel the need to turn the light on. So they sat down on my desk and was assembling my paperwork, filling out some stuff at the end of the day. And as I'm sitting there, this is plain as day. very odd. It sounds very cliche what this voice I heard said. But to me, it sounded like a woman's voice
Starting point is 00:30:45 right up against my ear, just saying, boo. Wow. Like it was messing with you. Yeah, like it was messing with me. I knew I was there alone. And so I jumped up out of my seat real quick and just completely startling about what was that okay nothing's here um so i you know walked over to the back door just to open up the back door see if anybody was out there which you know not that
Starting point is 00:31:17 um somebody's voice would sound like a whisper next to my ear um you know from 20 feet away outdoors but no nobody's out there um so yeah it wasn't scary it was just very startling um so yeah i just kind of put my paperwork down and said, I'm done. I'll come back tomorrow. So who or what do you, who or what do you think it was? I have no idea. It was like a non-descript,
Starting point is 00:31:50 kind of cinderblock building right in kind of downtown. I suspect it was, there's probably something there before that, before that building was ever there. But we never did figure out anything, as far as like any kind of history or story with the building. Did it continue after this?
Starting point is 00:32:07 Did it continue after this? It did. So there was a few other incidents. You know, some of the other employees told me of coming in early in the morning on a number of occasions and just finding medical supplies that, you know, we had these shelves full medical supplies. It'd be stacked neatly and everything, and they'd come in. they were, you know, there'd be stuff on the floor. It's not that they hadn't fallen off the shelf, but appeared to have sailed off the shelf,
Starting point is 00:32:42 some distance away, more than it could fall. So that was one of the, some of the other activity that was going on there. But I never really experienced too much activity after, you know, occasional shadows, but no other intense stuff like the, like the voice in my ear. at the warehouse there. Well, the thing is, I think sometimes people, you know, expect when it comes to the paranormal, they're supernatural, they expect maybe a ghost will, like a peer, full body apparition, those kind of things. But I think sometimes it's a lot more subtle, but that doesn't make it any more real. It's just as much there as if it came in full body apparition.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And not only the fact that you experienced it, but multiple other people. experienced it. I think that really says, yeah, there was really something going on there. And to your point, these buildings and stuff are repurposed for different things. So who knows over the years, what was there? And I guess all it would take is one person who may be passed on who would be interested in haunting the place, whether they loved it, whether they hated it, whether they liked to mess with people. You don't know the motivations of people when they're living, let alone dead. So there you go. There you go. go. Now, was it a place, was it just kind of like an annoyance, or were you genuinely afraid of the place? Not even, not necessarily scary. Just mostly for me, it was just curiosity, like, this is so interesting, what is going on in here. I think that was kind of the attitude of a couple of my
Starting point is 00:34:23 co-workers, too, as they were interested in what was going on in there, not necessarily a fear of anyone being there alone or anything like that. Well, as I often say, some of the best campfire stories end with a question mark and not a period. And that sounds like this one. Preston, thank you for joining us on the campfire and sharing your story. Stay safe and stay spooky. Stay spooky, Jim. Thank you. Next up on the campfire is Stephanie.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And we're so glad that she is here from California, the great state of California. And she's going to tell us a story. And it has echoes of other stories we've heard over the years. And I am a full believer in this phenomena. I've heard it too many times happening to other people. And I think you'll be interested. Stephanie, welcome to the show. Tell us what happened.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Thanks, Jim, for having me. Yeah, so when I was about 16, I was going up the stairs to my apartment. And I had a backpack fully loaded with all my textbooks. You know, those heavy hardcover textbooks. I had like five or six of them in there. So I had a full load of books. It was heavy. I was near the top of the stairs.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And I don't know. Like I lost my footing and I remember reaching for the railing and missing it. And I just remember it was like a slow motion moment where I just had this thought like this is going to be very bad for me. You know, because I was near the top. And I just all of a sudden I felt like somebody pull me forward. or like grab my arm and just pull me forward and I fell forward with my hands just at the top of the steps and I I just sat there just I just laid sprawled out with my hand at the top of the steps and I just froze like just just totally amazed and just kind of running over the whole thing
Starting point is 00:36:24 in my mind like what just happened there's nobody here but I felt like a push and a pull Um, so something, somebody, um, just didn't let me fall. Um, yeah, it was just, it was just pretty amazing. And, you know, I just sat there for a few minutes, just totally scratching my head, like, what just happened? I don't understand, um, you know, and I, I still don't really have an explanation for that, but just that somebody was watching out for me. Um, and, uh, yeah, it was just, I just don't know. I totally believe this is a thing. There's a couple of examples we were talking before we hit record.
Starting point is 00:37:11 There was one, and this is years ago, I think on the show, we had police officer, and he was in a routine, I think, traffic stopped. And all of a sudden he felt what seemed like someone grabbing the back of his belt and pulling back as hard as they could. And he's like, what the heck? And he looked back, there's nobody there. Just that time, a car comes and slams into right where he was standing. Then there was another person who fell off the stairs, kind of similar to your story,
Starting point is 00:37:41 but they felt like a gliding motion, if I remember correctly, almost like a feather, and they just kind of gently landed on the ground. I believe, you know, I'm one of those people believe this, and this is scary to say, when it's your time, it's your time, but when it's not your time, it's not your time. it's not your time. And things will intervene. I mean, I've had a couple close calls myself. You know, for a few years there, I was feeling like a cat with nine lives.
Starting point is 00:38:11 But the point was is that, you know, you just feel like, boy, if things had just been slightly different, that could have turned out very, very badly. And you had your whole life in front of you. And someone or something wanted you to fulfill that. Now, let me ask you this question. Who or what do you think it was? I don't you know I don't really have an explanation other than it just maybe an angel like you know and I do have other stories of like a spirit attachment for a future so I don't know if
Starting point is 00:38:45 maybe I had some kind of if they played a part in it you know all I all I know is that somebody didn't want me to fall down the stairs that day and didn't allow it to happen. Very interesting, Stephanie. Very, very, very interesting. And again, I'm a believer, a hundred percent believer. Can't wait to hear those other campfire stories, but regardless, thank you so much for sharing your amazing campfire story tonight. Thank you. Yeah, thanks, Jim. And if I may, this, something similar happened to me one other time. This is, like, going to probably take, like, another minute. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Please do. So, um, Yeah, I was racing back to school with my project.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I was already in class earlier in the day, so the professor said you needed to come back with that project by a certain time. So I was racing on the freeway, you know, going about 70. And, you know, all of a sudden I just felt my steering wheel jerk into the lane next to me. And I was fighting the wheel of trying to, you know, keep myself in the lane that I was in. And I was scared because I didn't know if there was somebody next to me. Right. And as I was fighting the wheel to stay in the lane that I was in, I looked to my right and I see like one of those really big pickup trucks just kind of veer like two lanes across and take the place of where my car just was.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Oh man. Yeah, and that would have been bad. I mean, they were going faster than I was. So they must have been going like 80 or something. I mean, I don't know. But I just, you know, at that moment, I just totally surrendered to whatever was pulling my wheel. into that other lane. But yeah, that left me shaking for the rest of the drive.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I just, yeah, it's really spooky. Someone's watching out for you, Stephanie. Someone's watching out for you. Thank you. Thank you for joining us tonight in the campfire. Stay safe and stay spooky. Thanks, Jim. Stay spooky.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Well, I got to tell you, it's always great to have a repeat callers. And we're so glad to have Lori back. You remember a while back, she talked about her beloved cat blue and signs and signals that blue lived on. And we're going to talk about more signs and signals, but this more about a person who was very and is very important in Lori's life. And we're so glad to have her back. Lori, it just seems like we talked a few moments ago. How quickly time goes. Tell us what happened.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah. So this one's about my grandmother, who's we called Nana. She is my little Italian grandmother and the most important person in my young life. She is where we always felt safe, where we always felt loved. We had, you know, challenging childhood like so many people do. But in her home, there was safety and there was always love. And when we would come to visit her, we'd be knocking on the door. And she would know it was us, but she'd pretend she wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And she'd go, well, is it? And her voice was like a song. And her kitchen was like magic. The foods that she made, everything that she did for us was just so full of love. And anyway, she was very dear to my life. And I was very, very attached to her. Once before she got sick, she had set me down at the table and she says, no matter what happens, please don't let them put me in a nursing home.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Now, I'm in my early 20s, I'm a young mother. I don't have means. And of course, I'm like, of course none, of course, would never expect that it was going to be challenged with that. Because she had a massive stroke just a couple of years later that left her unable to walk or talk. And it was devastating to us all. She had three sons. Two were attorneys. And of course, she ended up in a nursing home.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And I, you know, didn't have the means to pull her out myself. So I wrote a letter to my uncles and my dad. I said, we've got to do something. We've got to get pulled Nuna out of the nursing home. We can all contribute together. I don't have money, but I can give my time. But anyway, they just got mad at me. Anyway, she ended up staying in the nursing home.
Starting point is 00:43:11 She got as good of care as she could get. But I would pray that she would pass because her life being in the nursing home was, you know, she was not what she wanted. The day came. She did pass away about 10 years later. And as hard as that was, I was grateful for her, but still, you know, I really grieved her loss. Within a couple of years after she passed away, I receive a phone call one day. And so I pick up the phone, I'm like, hello.
Starting point is 00:43:42 And on the other line, I hear, who is it? And I'm like, well, this is Lori. And she goes, Laurie. And my grandmother used to always call me Laurie. Lari, this is Nana. And I'm like, Nana. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And I just was like stunned for a moment until I finally, you know, shook it off. And I'm like, I'm sorry, you must have the wrong number. And I hung up. But even now when I speak of it, I get chills. So I really feel even if it wasn't her, it was a way. I just felt like it was her because it's. sounded so much like her. A little Italian voice, a little crisper maybe than as she had aged, a little younger, but it sounded so much like her. Wow. And for her to call me Larvie,
Starting point is 00:44:37 just like she did, and her, you know, it's none. It was, um, that's amazing. Got it. But at the time, I wasn't into paranormal, I didn't know what to think of it. So it put it on the shelf until I found your show and, and others that had talked about things like this. I'm like, wait a minute, maybe this was my nunna and either which way I've held on to it all these years. You know, I think it's totally possible. And we've had, you know, not a ton, but we've had some accounts like this over the years on Campfire. And certainly there's literature of phone calls from those who have passed. I really believe it is a thing. And, you know, they come back in various ways. And we've had a lot of grandparents. it seems like with the phone calls. It seems to be more of a grandparent thing I've noticed over the years. And we did a show years ago.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I believe the author, I may be wrong. Callum Cooper, I believe is his name. And we had him years ago on the paranormal podcast many years ago. And I know he's redone his book. I think it's called Telephone Calls from the Dead. And I've been meaning to get him back on the show. So this is a good reminder to try to get him back on the show. Paranormal podcast, which folks you should check out if you're not listening to it. I do interviews
Starting point is 00:45:58 with authors and so forth about different topics we cover on Campfire. And it's free just like this one, the most recent episodes. But I think it's a thing. I totally think it's a thing. And they seem to be very short. Now, let me ask you this. A lot of times would I hear it sounds like, remember the old long distance when people would sound really distant? You know, today you could talk to somebody halfway across the world. And depending on their connection, it can sound like they're in the same room. But it used to be, somebody would call long distance and it would literally sound like they were distant. Did she sound like that or did she sound very close? He didn't. No, it's she sounded close. She sounded close. So I, you know, that's why I say, don't know, but it was so, I think you've said often,
Starting point is 00:46:46 it was too strange to be, I don't know, what is your term of, coincidence to be a coincidence. It was so close to her passing, and our attachment was so strong, our bond was so strong that I don't know. Again, your audience can make a decision, but for me, it's always stuck with me, even when I didn't really know that I believed in those things because I was kind of stuck in my very pragmatic, religious world. But I've come to believe these things. I've had too many experiences since that have encouraged me that this may very well have been my nana. Well, I will say this. I believed in this stuff before I started the campfire. I believe in it a lot more now because not that I didn't believe. I always believe that there was more to the world. But this is really hammered at home. I've heard too many people with too many similar accounts. People aren't making all of this stuff up. They're not imagining of this stuff happens. And the other side, I believe, exists. Thank you. Thank you for being with us, Lori. Thanks for all your support, being a plus club member and all of that.
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Starting point is 00:48:40 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming, Ontario. Next up on the program, we have a return call. Kate is here from the UK, and this story is about her mom. And we're so glad to have her with us once again. Kate, welcome back to the program, and please tell us what happened. Thank you, Jim. So my mom, our mom, passed away last year in April. Obviously, a very hard time.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Thank you. And we spent many months, obviously, you know, well, it's a life-changing thing. Anyway, there was a place. There's a cafe. that we never took mum too. It just didn't happen in that sense. And we ended up going there. So it was my sister and I and my daughter.
Starting point is 00:49:29 And it was a lovely afternoon and we were sat there having T&K for English. And we were just saying, oh, Mom would love this. Mum would have absolutely loved this. It's so mum. And a song came on the radio. So my mum's got two favourite songs. And the one that she just loves is I heard it on the grapevine by Marvin Gay. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:49 That's, yeah. And the song just out of nowhere came on as we were talking about mom and how much she would love this cafe. So we were like, oh, definitely mum's here. Like, that's just lovely. So we wrapped up tea and cake and my sister was talking to the waitress about Mainecun cats because we're all cat mad and this woman was cat mad. So I went and got the bill and he's the owner had his little dog with him. And I said, oh my God, that's so cute, your little dog, my sister and your, you know, your waitress. talking about cats. And he said, oh yeah, like, here's my sidekick. I said, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:50:24 He goes, Marvin Gay. Oh, oh. I said, excuse me, what did you say? He said, my dog's called Marvin Gay. And I then obviously recalled the whole song that we just heard sort of like 15 minutes previous and about my mum and that being her favorite song. I mean, what are the chances that a dog? If I had never spoken, like, and said, oh, your dog's cute. My sister's talking about cats. Like, it's something. the chances. What are the chances? You know what I... He's dog as fucking gay.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah. I mean, insane. So, so you know what I call that, Kate? You've listened long enough to know. Too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence. Correct, Jim, exactly. Like, that's insane. So that was that one.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And then, um, there were three. So my father went, obviously, after Mum Pass, he went to the church and he was meeting with the vicar and, you know, ceremony and sort of team everything up. And he left there and he was on his way to another. The cafes are featuring heavily. He was on his own. He was going to a cafe that we do know. And he walked in and the ladies were working, couldn't get the radio working. And they said, oh, we've been working on this radio for about 10 minutes now and it's not working. So dad sits down, having obviously just been to the church and the vicar and stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:43 He was there 10 minutes, still not working. Then they got it to work. Guess what song came on? I heard it on the grapevine. Oh. I know. So he was like totally freaked out. And so that for him was that confirmation that the church that we chose, you know, was the right one and it was all fitting because she was saying, look, I'm, you know, here. And then the other one was maybe I should have started off with this one. It was probably, it was literally about a week after mum had passed.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And I take care of children and we were walking up the road. And I could hear music and the kids were, you know, barking around. It's fine. And then as I started to tune in, I was thinking, oh my God, what, what? And I heard it on the Great Wine was playing. But it was playing out loud in the street. I can't describe it. So my childcare, one of the dads, the parents, he, sorry, he came up onto the
Starting point is 00:52:40 because he arrived to pick up one of his children from me. And I said, Oz, are you playing that in the car in the radio, that song? He was like, no, no. There was no one around. There was no windows open. There was literally, I don't, we don't, and we could hear it, but it was like in the air, right outside my house. And then it just went.
Starting point is 00:53:00 It was just phenomenal. I can't really describe, you know, explain that one, but it, it was really loud and really clear. And yet there was no, there was no explanation of where the song was coming from. Wow. So clearly, I'm sending messages through Marvin Gays. I heard it like, we're fine. I love it. That's great. That's great. You know, again, what are the, now the song, you could hear this song on the radio and that's a nice coincidence maybe. Yeah. But the dog was named Marvin Gay and then the other happenings. That's amazing. Yeah. Mom's message got through. Her message got through. Kate, thank you for sharing. That's great stuff. And you know, we have a lot of the scary, spooky, the evil demon chased me and things. And I do think, you know, I think I personally believe that those kind of scary, spooky. very spooky things exist, but I also think the good stuff exists, too. And I love the idea that
Starting point is 00:53:55 you were able to share it. Thank you for being a part of the campfire tonight. Stay spooky. Stay spooky, Jim. Thank you. The thing I love about the campfire, one of the many things I love about the campfire is that there's always something new. We've been doing this since, gosh, 2009. You would think that we've covered every possible topic, heard every possible situation. As George Carlin said once, a contrary, my and frere. It's not the case because I always hear something new, and today we're going to hear something new now.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Remember that movie where the little boy said, I see dead people? Well, Ashley's going to tell us about another sense that came into play. Ashley, welcome to the program. Thank you for joining us. I thank you very much. As I said, I've never heard this before. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Tell us what happened. Oh, thank you, Jim. It's a really short story. I was a teenager. I was probably about 14 or 15. And I was babysitting. My brother, he was a toddler at the time. So I think from listening to previous shows of years, it seems to be there's like a connection for very young children and teenager years to have like be like have a heightened sensitivity to things that are maybe paranormal. So I was babysitting him, and so it was just the two of us at home, and I'm sitting there. We're like nighttime, getting ready for bed. We're just relaxing, sitting on the couch, watching some cartoons, and I smelled a really strong, mature smelling perfume. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I would call it like an old lady perfume. There you go. You were trying to be nice. there, but, uh, mature. Seasoned, seasoned, but go ahead. Um, so when I smelled it, I'm thinking to myself, never smelled that before. We're just sitting in our house. There's no one else around.
Starting point is 00:56:02 And right when I'm thinking this, my brother kind of like does a double take next to him and then turns to me and says, who was that lady? Huh. It scared me. I was like, excuse me? What lady? I didn't want to scare him, but I was like, what? I didn't see anybody, what lady? And he kind of points, you know, behind him and then, you know, through the room as if someone
Starting point is 00:56:35 walked by. And he said, that lady that just walked by. Huh. And I was like, okay, you know, now as if someone were to walk by us, they were going to pass through the living room past us and down the hallway straight to the bedrooms. Right, right. My bedroom was down the end of the hallway. So I was really freaked out.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Fair enough. So you didn't see anybody. No one. I just smelled a perfume. And then at that same moment, he was like, who is that lady? And yeah, that's from there, it's, I think that was probably the very first time I ever realized I smelled. I guess a spirit or maybe it was some kind of weird. Maybe it could have been a memory of the home.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I don't know. I believe there was an elderly couple that lived in that house and one of them had passed in the house before we had moved into it. So I don't really know. But that was the very first time I had ever experienced that. And then as I got older and I moved into my current house, I started only when I was home alone.
Starting point is 00:57:47 I would start smelling smells, sense that had no origin, no explanation whatsoever. So it's the only thing I can come up with is that it's spirits or just something that. Because I have heard of people having medical things. There's a name for it. I can't think where they smell phantom smells. But the difference is here is that particularly in that one instance, there was a report of, the little boy, you know, a report of the little boy saying, who was that lady, you know? So to me, it's like it wasn't a medical thing or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:58:29 You smelled the spirit. Because I have had paper, like, you know, a grandmother will pass or something like that or like a male figure and say, I heard, I smelled his pipe spoke. But to do it on consistent basis, I've never heard that before. That's pretty cool. So do you think you still smell dead people? I think I definitely have had experiences in my current home that I've been in for the past 15 years. And it always seems to be when I'm alone.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I think that maybe my senses are just a little bit more heightened when I'm alone because I don't have like that protective energy around me that might be coming for my husband. Right. So I've smelled all kinds of things like cigar smoke that has. had no origin. Huh. Coffee brewing. The weirdest one was when I smelled earth.
Starting point is 00:59:24 My only explanation to the smell of earth is like if you just walked in the woods after it rained and you kind of smell that mossy, dirty smell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And these smells just are very brief. They come so quickly. And then as soon as I get up and start trying to figure out where the smells are coming from, it vanishes that quick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:42 That could be, I'm not saying for sure, but that could be the, Ted live the episode. She smells dead people. Well, Ashley, if you smell anything interesting coming up, I hope you'll come back on the show and report it. Thank you for being a part of the campfire tonight. Stay spooky. Stay spooky, Jim. Just a quick word before we get back to the campfire. You know, people say, Jim, I'm new to the show, but where are all the old shows? How do I get those? Well, I have an easy answer. If you'd like to access the full campfire, you know, people say, Jim, Jim, Jim, I'm new to the show. campfire catalog going all the way back to 2009, the place to go is Jimherald.com slash plus.
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Starting point is 01:02:41 And now back to the campfire. Next up is Sue from Texas. You know, she had an interesting story. She was telling me. She just discovered a podcast relatively recently. And she found my name. And she's like, I heard that somewhere before. And then she realized years later, years earlier, excuse me, years earlier, not later.
Starting point is 01:03:02 She didn't get in a time machine. But years earlier, she had hurt me on Coast to Coast A.M. So it all joined together. And here she is telling her story. So thank you, Coast to Coast A.M. And thank you, Sue. And, you know, we talk about haunted apartments, haunted houses. What about a haunted trailer park?
Starting point is 01:03:19 We're going to find out all about this trailer park. Sue, welcome to the show. Thank you. Tell us what happened. Thank you, Jim. It's good to be here. I'll just start. Thanks for this opportunity.
Starting point is 01:03:31 So, yes, I live voluntarily in a trailer park. I like the community and, you know, the whole feel of it. I think it's about four years ago now I moved in. And I'm currently renting one of the trailers. saving up to get my own. And this started in a trailer I was living in before this one, but I was in bed, sitting up, watching TV, not asleep. And something bumps the bed. And it's kind of hard to do that because if you've been on a trailer, you know, the bed is just like this box with a lid on it and a mattress.
Starting point is 01:04:04 It's not movable. And something wasn't bumping the trailer. The trailer's pretty steady. It's, you know, one that's kind of owned by the. the park and is more stable. So that was just kind of weird. And I didn't really think much of it. And then eventually I moved into my current trailer because it was cheaper per month.
Starting point is 01:04:25 And I was using the sofa bed in the living room. Now, those you can bump. So I have to admit, I was watching creepy videos on YouTube. And I feel something bumped the bed. I'm like, okay, my 10-pound dog wouldn't be able to do that, not to mention she's on the bed. So a couple more men just go by and something bumps the bed again. And I'm like, no, come on.
Starting point is 01:04:48 So I joke around and I talk to things. I'm like, knock it off. And the third time it happened, my dog looks up and she's looking around like, what just happened? You know, I'm like, all right, you don't want me watching creepy videos. I'll watch something else. And sure enough, it stopped. But I was talking with the neighbor of mine, several trailers down. And I brought it up.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And she's like, oh, my God, your bed bumps too? And she was in one of the rentals. And she's like, that thing, it bumps all the time. And she ended up buying her own and moving just across the road, but kind of in the same area. And she's like, Sue, you wouldn't believe this. The ghost followed me over there. The bed gets bumped in the new one now. And I was like, oh, wow, this is kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Like, other people are having this experience. So one day I was talking to the park manager. And he lived like, just. directly in between us. Right. And I brought it up and he's like, you're not going to believe this, but I hear a kid running through the trailer in the nighttime, like to the point where I will get up, go out my locked door to see if someone's running away.
Starting point is 01:05:58 And I was like, wow, that's kind of cool. That's different from getting the beds bump. But he had that happen several times. There's some other little things that happen. My dog will look up at certain corners. Only up at certain corners, never down, never head height. It's always up and it's weird. I wonder what she's staring at.
Starting point is 01:06:20 But one time I took her off a walk and I came back in with her. And the fridge is maybe about six feet away from the door. And she stops. Like, she's scared of something and she backs up. Like something's going to hurt her. And I'm looking up at the fridge. I'm like, I don't see anything. And I wish I would have taken a picture.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Just snap a photo. See if anything's in it, you know. Right, right. But I didn't. But she did it again. She started walking in and then backed up again. I'm like, what the heck? So I put my hand down to pet her and it kind of snapped her out of it.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And then she came in. But I thought that was really weird because it hasn't happened before or since. The other thing that I found weird, I have a desk that faces the back of the trailer. We're alongside a bayou and I like to watch the dogs and the birds and stuff like that. So my work desk is facing that way. and I was cooking one day, and it was in the winter, so humidity was lower. So the cooking fogged over the windows inside. And I'm sitting at my desk and I look up, and there's like a handprint pretty high up on the window, but it's child size.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Oh, that's weird. That wasn't there before. I don't have kids in here. And I would have seen that at that point. You know, I would have seen that happen before. And I made a handprint next to it so I could see my size hands. My hands are pretty small, but that was even smaller than mine. And I have pictures of that.
Starting point is 01:07:49 But it was just kind of weird. I'm like, how would that even have happened? And I don't know. So I have Google Earth Pro through work. And that will let you go back in time and see past imagery. Right. So I started digging around on there. and it's like this was all trees.
Starting point is 01:08:12 It was just trees like from the 1960s on. And in 1995, in the field across the road that is no long, it wasn't there at that point, no road. They put in an elementary school. And at the point where the elementary school was there, a path through the woods shows up. And I'm like, huh, that's weird. I wonder. You know, I started thinking about it. Then I went back and I'm like, okay, I'm going to drop a couple of pins.
Starting point is 01:08:39 So I dropped a couple pins along the path. and I went back to the current imagery, and sure enough, that path went right through where the park manager heard a kid running through his trailer. I was like, you gotta be kidding.
Starting point is 01:08:51 You got to be kidding. I am a scientific person. I do like tracking things down, but I grew up reading and watching good shows and things like that. My brain wants to come up with stories. And I'm like, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:06 what do kids do in the woods? They climb trees. Like, why is my dog always looking up at corners? And why do I have a handprint on my window where a kid wouldn't be able to reach? Like, I don't know. My brain just came up with that story. But then I kind of dropped it because I didn't want to find out of something bad happened to children. But maybe something bad didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Maybe it was a time slip. Yeah, maybe it was anything bad at all. I mean, the thing is, I think ghosts are real and I think sometimes ghosts are dead people or spirits or those things. But I also think there's something to this whole time slip thing. We've had, or alternate realities and those things. I think that's a part of the picture, too. So I don't think it's just my opinion and my opinion is no better than anybody else's. But my opinion is that, yeah, ghosts sometimes are people who have departed.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Maybe they're trying to get a message to someone, maybe a visitation. Maybe sometimes, you know, maybe it's just a replay, like a residual haunting or those things. But I also think there's because we've had people see themselves. We've had people see doppelgangers. Just amazing, amazing stories. And those obviously aren't ghosts. Those aren't dead people because they're themselves. So I think there's something more at play in some of these cases.
Starting point is 01:10:29 So the one thing I would say is you might not have to worry about anything bad happening in the kids. No, I don't feel anything bad. Maybe it's just like layered on top of it. It's like, remember the old transparent? Right. Maybe it's just layered on top and you're seeing echoes of something that happened 30 years ago. Well, so I know, I know you have a lot more stories and I really, I don't want to hear them. Yeah. Yeah. So I do want to hear them. So please do come back. By the way, folks, chances are right now. Signups are open. So please go over there and sign up at Jimherald.com slash campfire, just like Sue did. And she said she's going to do it again.
Starting point is 01:11:07 so we're excited about that. Sue, thank you for joining us tonight on the campfire and stay so much for having me, Jim. Stay spooky. Stephanie's on the line from Arizona. She's been listening for several years and we're most appreciative. And Stephanie grew up in a haunted house and some strange things happened. She's going to tell us about it. Stephanie, welcome to the show. Thank you for joining us and tell us what happened. Yeah, thank you. So I grew up in a haunted house. A lot of strange stuff would happen all the time. And I remember around the time that I was maybe 10 or 11 years old, it was right after one of my grandparents died. We started hearing footsteps going up and down the hallway at night, really late at night around like 3 a.m. And so these footsteps would just for like an hour every time just go up and down the hallway and I would always hear them. it would be like a step drag so not normal footsteps like a dragging footstep yeah and um they would always start at one end of the hallway and then come to my room which was on the other end of the hallway but it would always stop right before my door and um yeah and i would never see anything because i remember i would get up and go look in the hallway to see if anything was out there and nothing and then i I remember because every week on like a Wednesday night, I would hear these footsteps and then I would try to make myself go to sleep. And then when I would wake up in the morning, my closet door would be open.
Starting point is 01:12:49 And yeah, and I started noticing that it was happening. So every like Wednesday night, I would make sure that my closet door was closed. And then Thursday morning, it was always open. And then, yeah. And then there was one night where I don't know. what was going on, but one night, the footsteps started, and I remember after a while, they didn't stop when they got to my room. They came into my room. Oh, boy. Yeah, and I was so scared because I was a little kid, so I pulled the blanket up to, like, just below my eyes. And I remember looking up at the
Starting point is 01:13:30 ceiling because I had like a nightlight, so I was watching the ceiling, and I just see this big shadow, like, come into my room and like go across the ceiling and stop right in front of my closet. And then I just remember it was so creepy because it felt like all of the sound was like sucked out of the room. And so like I watched that for a little bit while it was standing in front of my closet. And then I closed my eyes and I like covered my face with the blanket for like 20 minutes and then I pulled the blanket down and my closet door was open. Wow. Do you think, I mean, did you ever get any, I mean, you were a little then, I don't know how long you lived in the house. Do you ever get any clarity of who or what it was?
Starting point is 01:14:22 Not really. My mom still lives in that house and it's a little bit creepy but not as bad as it used to be. I mean, my brothers seem to think it has something to do with my dad because he claims that he did like satanic rituals when he was in his 20s. So I don't know if it had something to do with that, but there was never any clarity about what was going on. And eventually the footsteps stopped, but I wasn't the only one that heard them. So how long would you say that this went on these different things with the footsteps? Was it weeks for the months? Was it? years? It was months probably, yeah. And yeah, that's something that's distinctive is that kind of foot drag, like it had some kind of condition that would have, so you don't think this
Starting point is 01:15:14 has made necessarily someone who lived in the house before? You think it may be some kind of more sinister energy? Yeah, I definitely feel like it was sinister because it was very scary living in that house growing up. And it was a brand new house when we moved in like my parents had it built so I don't know what that could have been so maybe it did come along with your dad's energy and uh after you moved out of that house any further kind of things like that anything followed you did you feel or things kind of cleared up after you moved out of that house um no i mean i've always had like strange occurrences happen um no matter where i've lived to like random doors opening and like hearing noises at night,
Starting point is 01:16:00 but nothing as scary as what happened in that house. Yeah, because you can imagine it as a small child, how frightening that would be in the closet door being open when it's supposed to be closed and seeing those shadows on the wall. Wow, wow. Yeah. Well, Stephanie, thank you so much. I appreciate thank you for being on the campfire tonight.
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Starting point is 01:17:31 I'm haunted by being tongue-tied. But Cody from Missouri, and he's going to tell us all about his experience. Cody, welcome to the show. Tell us what happened. Yes, thank you, Jim. I'm honored to be here. So taking it back here, the house that I grew up in is a double-wide mobile home, about three bedrooms, two baths. And when you walk into the building, on the right, you know, you have a couple windows. There's a big fireplace in front of you. And then to the left was the dining room.
Starting point is 01:18:04 The joining room was the kitchen. Then down the hallway, you have three beds. There's my sister's room first. That was the, what we be the toy room for a little while. and then my room and then my parents' room. So this house, when you were in it, you never truly felt alone. I remember especially when I was younger trying to go to sleep. I'd feel like I was being watched a lot of the time.
Starting point is 01:18:39 And even before that, before I can even recollect, my mom has memories of me when I was younger. I'd go and stand by the fireplace. And I'd be kind of looking up and, you know, this is before I could, you know, articulate words. I'd be staying up there babbling, looking in the same place. Kind of like I was having a conversation with something no one else could see. Now, as I got older, you know, I had an aunt who had passed away
Starting point is 01:19:13 about 1999. I'd been about three years old. and apparently when I would have, I'd still do those things, I'd still go over and have those conversations, but I could tell people that I was talking to Thelma. That was her name. So not really any way to quite explain that.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I didn't know her very well. You know, she lived a good distance away from us, but I would still, you know, have conversations with her. now my mom has theories that maybe I was also talking
Starting point is 01:19:50 to my grandfather who had passed away passed away before her but still to the day it's not really known what I was doing or who I was quite talking to now
Starting point is 01:20:06 you know kind of moving on as the years went by and we lived in that house I mentioned the rooms earlier. So my sister's room, it was, it wasn't really her room because
Starting point is 01:20:22 she, you know, I talked to her a little bit ago, she said she was scared of that room. It became kind of our toy room when I was a kid, you know, and there's a little TV in there. So when we were younger,
Starting point is 01:20:40 my sister and I, we would stay with our parents most nights, you know, sleeping in there with them. You know, we were getting ready to go to bed. My mom was, you know, walking into the bedroom, you know, with us, walk past a toy room. And, you know, an important detail. That TV was off. It was pitch black in there.
Starting point is 01:21:04 You know, we go to bed and wake up, you know, the next morning. You know, she, mom's coming out of the room. out of the bedroom walking down the hallway and she starts coming back and she looks in the toy room and the TV's on. It was just us home.
Starting point is 01:21:29 You know, my sister and I, we were sleeping we were that little in the bed with them. So, you know, there wasn't been any way for us to get up without waking her up in the middle of the night. And the TV
Starting point is 01:21:44 was just playing static. it wasn't doing anything else there. So that was, you know, another weird thing in addition to the talk, you know, when I was a kid, I would talk, when I would talk, you know, to whatever was there. Now, the thing I remember most when I was probably about seven, eight, may nine years old, at night when I would try to go to sleep, you know, I'd be laying down. So the foot, kind of the layout of my room, behind my head, was kind of going towards the living room and that area of the house. And, you know, my parents' room was, you know, right kind of in front of my room.
Starting point is 01:22:40 So I'd be trying to go to sleep at night and I would hear, you know, what sounded like a voice in the living room. room almost is kind of muffled not really anything there wasn't really saying anything into you know distinguishable anything that I could make out but me I always kind of associated it with it sounded like a news anchor kind of like a male voice kind of like that so I always thought you know maybe my mom or dad were you know awake out in the living room watching TV right A few nights, you know, I'd kind of get brave. I'd go outside. My room looked down to the right, you know, into the living room.
Starting point is 01:23:30 It was pitch black in there. No TV was on. Everyone was asleep. And when I would walk out, I couldn't hear that voice anymore. That happened. I don't even know how many times. It was a frequent occurrence because I would hear it
Starting point is 01:23:51 I hear it quite often and you know every time I walked out it was the same story you know just pitch black in the living room you know
Starting point is 01:24:06 and then I don't really have any explanation for it and in addition to that my sister I would now I never saw anything like an apparition or anything in the house. I always just heard that voice, that talking and, you know, just felt the presence. My sister, when she was, you know, she kind of experienced one of the same things.
Starting point is 01:24:36 You know, she walked out, she said she would sneak out sometimes get like a nighttime snack. And she walked out of her bedroom one night, when she was actually, staying in that bedroom and went down to the kitchen. Now, remember the kitchen's, you know, attached to that little dining room and the living room right there is real visible. She said the TV was on. So she thought, you know, someone was awake. And when she, you know, went to kind of look and see who it was because she thought, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:14 she wasn't expecting anyone to be awake at that time, she saw someone sitting there. She saw someone sitting in the couch. And she thought it was my mom. So she was hoping she didn't see her as trying to sneak back to her room. But, yeah, kind of little mischievous kid things. But then, you know, she realized it wasn't my mother. She said the figure it was kind of dark. like shadow like
Starting point is 01:25:48 from what she could remember. Yeah and she said it just stood up and started you know kind of started trying to walk away and then it just disappeared. So I never really saw anything like that but she says she remembers that vividly.
Starting point is 01:26:11 It's something that you know when she thinks back to her to that house that's one of the things that she thinks of and that fear that she felt in that moment, you know, seeing that figure. Now, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:26:27 You know, the crate and then probably the craziest part of the story that not only, you know, I've been kind of talking about my experience, you know, then what my mom experienced and my sister. But we all experience this next one.
Starting point is 01:26:45 So we're sitting in the living room. room watching television and you know lights were on everything we had our dining room right there to the left of us so we had good visual of what was in the dying room and everything now once in when we're watching tv we hear a candle on one of the shelves and there slide off and it fell and broke on the ground got our attention immediately. We all looked towards the dining room. We did have animals in the house,
Starting point is 01:27:26 so we thought, you know, there's a thought, you know, maybe something had bumped into, bumped into it, and, you know, the candle had just fallen off. But seconds later, before, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:40 we could do anything about it, the candle even further back on the shelf, we hear it slide like it's being pushed and it grabs a little bit of air has a little bit of distance, a little bit of arc to it and it slides and busts on the floor as well. Just a lot of my story, you know, a lot of small things but the candles, that's what really sticks with me
Starting point is 01:28:12 and, you know, when I think back to it, kind of like a poltergeist type activity. Yeah, it sounds like. It sure sounds like it. Yeah, the thing is these things are real. Cody, as you know from your personal experience, and we've had too many stories from too many people saying they've experienced something similar. So I believe 100% that this is real and happens. Can I explain it?
Starting point is 01:28:36 No, I can't, but it's real. I believe that. Cody, thank you for sharing your story tonight and stay spooky. Thank you. Stay spooky, Jim. Thanks so much for joining us on Jim Harold. campfire. I appreciate it so much. And if you like what we do, please tell a friend today, text them a link to this very episode or another episode of your choice. It helps us so much because,
Starting point is 01:29:00 you know, in this day and age with so many podcasts out there, I always feel like if more people were aware of the campfire, our numbers would double or triple because of the great stories, not because of me. But, you know, that's tough to do. That's very expensive to do. And we really can't afford outside advertising these days. But what we can't afford is for you to text a link to a friend today. That would be so helpful. And hopefully they'll check it out. And we can have more great stories and more great years of the campfire. We thank you so much. We'll talk to you next time. Have a great week. Everybody, stay safe and stay spooky. Happy 4th of July.

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