Jim Harold's Campfire - Shadow Man - Jim Harold's Campfire 745

Episode Date: January 22, 2026

A man looks back on a childhood encounter with a family he still can’t make sense of, a moment so strange it’s followed him for decades. Another story takes us into a quiet house where a girl suddenly realizes she’s standing right next to a shadowy figure that shouldn’t be there. Elsewhere, the lines blur in more subtle ways. A mother describes an eerie moment where a dream seems to be shared with her young son, leaving her questioning whether they were really asleep at all. You’ll hear stories that feel uncomfortably real and will keep you thinking after the Campfire is out. NEWSLETTERGet Jim’s weekly free newsletter and a free Campfire ebook at the same time. Go here: https://jim-harold.kit.com/campfire-ebookVIRTUAL CAMPFIRE GROUPJoin our free community at ⁠https://virtualcampfiregroup.com⁠ EVENTS Check out where Jim will be next, hope to see you soon! https://jimharold.com/eventsYOUTUBE CHANNELBe sure to subscribe to Jim’s YouTube channel at: ⁠https://youtube.com/jimharold⁠ JOIN JIM’S SPOOKY STUDIO PLUS CLUBYou can get access to Jim’s entire back catalog of Campfire and a TON of exclusive content with the Spooky Studio Plus Club. Go to https://⁠jimharold.com/plus⁠ and signup to support the show and get access to our MASSIVE library of content!MERCHGo to ⁠https://jimharold.com/merch⁠ to get your Jim Harold T’s, sweatshirts, mugs, hats and more! BOOKSGet all SIX of Jim’s Campfire books here: https://jimharold.com/campfirebooks/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What to do if a shadow person walks right up to you. We'll find out on this edition of the Campfire. Sit back, relax, and warm yourself by Jim Harold's Campfire. Next up is Heather from California. She's been listening since about COVID times, and so many people discovered the shows back then. It just was, you know, a very sad time. But a lot of people were looking for something to listen to

and we're grateful that many of them landed on the campfire, although the circumstances, my gosh, I wish that wouldn't ever happen for sure. But we are glad that Heather is here. And Heather is going to take us back to high school in something that is more terrifying than a failed exam, although I'm sure she got straight-hast. Heather, welcome to the show.

Tell us what happened. Thanks, Jim. Yeah, so back in high school, it was probably around 95. I don't remember exactly, but I was in a town that's above Sacramento. It's considered a gold mining town. And there were some newer housing in both the north and south of town that was built late 80s, early 90s. And my friend lived in one of those homes in the north side of town. And I would say it's probably like maybe it was six or seven years old at the time. So not. not an old home. And I was over there visiting her one time with another friend of hers. And if I can just give you the layout of the home, you walk in,

and the living room's in front of you, kitchen semi-open to the left. And then there's like a half-flight. So they had like a half-level up to the right. And first on the right was her brother's room, then her room. and then the end of the little L-shaped hallway was the bathroom there by her room. And then the other end of the long L was her mom's room. So for whatever reason, we had decided to sit in that hallway and hang out and talk. And we were chatting for quite a while.

And I noticed movement off to my left in front of her bedroom door. And, you know, as you do, when you see something moved, you kind of glance. And I glanced and I didn't see anything. And I glanced back. And I didn't really think anything of it until later, obviously. And then, I don't know, another maybe 10 minutes goes by. And I start to feel kind of, kind of jittery. And I thought, well, maybe it's because we're having really deep conversation.

And, you know, sometimes you get sort of amped up and excited when you're talking with friends. But then I realized I was getting cold. and it had been really comfortable there in the hallway for a while. And I asked them, I said, are you guys cold? I'm getting cold. And then I started to think about it. And I was like, and I think it's coming from over here. And I reached my hand out to my left hand side.

And about a foot and a half away from me, it felt like I stuck my hand into a freezer. It went from normal air temperature to, yeah, that's the only thing I can compare it to is like if you open a freezer door and stick your hand inside, it felt like that. And once I felt that, I looked at my hand and then I jerked it back and I looked up and standing right next to me was a shadow. And it wasn't like a shadow person, like a dark shadow, but it was like, like if you were in your house and there's a shadow on the wall that's light gray. Yeah. It's kind of like that, but almost it had some dimension to it. And it was in the shape of a man, a person. And I looked up and I saw that and I could see the head and the shoulders.

And I realized this thing had been standing next to me for a while. Good Lord. Just listening to us talking. And I kind of yelled out my friend's name. I was like, uh, and she said, oh, um, she looks up and she sees it. She's like, oh my gosh, do you, I can try to get rid of it. And I'm like, oh, okay. So she jumps up.

Sounds like she dealt with this before. Yeah. Yeah. And so I, I asked her later. I said, so I didn't know your house was on it like what. She said, oh, yeah, there's, she said, we have, I think two of them that. They usually just walk around upstairs back and forth, but typically, like, later at night and sometimes around the rest of the house. And I was like, oh, my gosh, because I had stayed over there a few times, like, down in the living room.

And, you know, like, heard what I thought was just house noises. And I started paying attention to, like, her cats and her cats would watch things that weren't there. And, you know, it just kind of blew my mind because I didn't consider it something that was really a possible. It was like, like, I knew people had mentioned having ghosts in houses, but it was one of those things. I mean, he was just standing there. He was just casually standing in like, what's the good word? Yeah, and it creep me out so badly for years, just thinking that this, it was such a strange experience in the fact that I touched it. And it was so cold. It just gave me the chills. I've only told, like, a handful of people about this story. And for years, it just totally gave me chills.

But now that I've been listening to more people talk about their experiences, I think I have a better perspective on it. And looking back, it's not as scary as it was at the time. Because it didn't feel menacing. And it definitely felt like a man when I thought about it. But it's like he was just curious or something, just watching us. That's the good word. And so, yeah, so looking back, it's not as terrifying as it was at the time, but at the time it was just like, like, oh, my gosh, what is this thing?

Wow, that is wild. That is wild. I mean, I just, could you imagine you're just talking with a friend of yours and men in your own business? And there's like, I know you said wasn't a shadow person, but a shadow person there was standing like, oh, hello. And the way that your friend almost seemed like, maybe I'm not understanding of it, she seemed almost nonchalant about it. Yeah. Like it was just like, well, would you like me to get rid of them? You know, he's always, you know. She said, one of them kind of hangs out in a room sometimes and would like, like, tuck the guitar strings on a guitar. Okay. Okay. She's a lot braver than I am. I know. I don't know how I was like, you're okay with that. She's like, yeah, they don't seem to do anything. And I'm like, I'd be climbing a tree if I could climb a tree. Yeah. Yeah. It would have been really creepy for me. Wow. So I guess since then you've been. a believer in terms of Oh, yeah, absolutely. Now I definitely, you know, I'm more aware and I and I, you know, take people seriously if they tell me that they have their own ghost

story to tell. I'll tell you something. It is a very strange world and a lot of strange things happen. So did she think these were dead people essentially who had lived there before something? She wasn't sure. You know, we both kind of

talked about it a little bit later. and they don't they didn't seem like they were older it's almost like maybe like maybe more modern like people that had passed nearby and just happened to end up there and I don't know if it's because of you know her vibe or you know what but but I'd asked her later in life like if she'd ever had any more experiences and she said no it was just that house wow interesting well Heather Thank you for sharing. And, yeah, that's a unique experience. And one that, I don't know if I'd want that to happen to me.

I think that would freak me out a little bit. But one thing I think I'd rather not touch one again. Yeah, I don't believe you. I don't believe it. Well, Heather, thank you for joining us today on the campfire and stay spooky. Thank you, Jim. Stay spooky. Appreciate you.

Jim Harold, this is the campfire. Welcome to it. So glad to be with you. and Heather, wow. If that happened to me, I don't know. They might be picking me up off the floor. That's a spooky one.

And that's what we have here. Real stories from real people that have really strange things happened to them. Next up is Gary from Canada, and he's going to tell us about, well, this one's a real head scratcher. You know, those are my favorite kind of Twilight Zone worthy.

And here we go. Next up, we, meet Gary from Canada, and he is a newcomer to the show. And he said, man, I've got all these decades of stories, and I've been just wanting to get them off my chest. So I decided to come on the campfire and share Wednesday. We couldn't be more pleased. Gary is calling from our great neighbors up north, Canada. And we're so glad to have him with us. And he's going to take us back to his teen years and talk about a very bizarre encounter. You've wedded my appetite, Gary. Tell us what happened and welcome to the campfire.

Hi, Jim, first of all, thanks a lot for having me on your show. And I'd like to say I've been listened to you for decades, but I'm new to the whole game. That's fine. We love new listeners. But yeah, one of the stories, I'll pick this one here. It's basically when I lived in southern Ontario, which I still do, but when I lived in one other location, we had a large public park and, used to be a big fairground that was there since like the 19 teens so but you know over a hundred years old a lot of history in that place and living right close to it when I was a kid growing up

preteen through my teenage years we'd go over there to play there was a baseball diamond there swings playground so one morning a friend of mine and I we went there on a Sunday morning bright and early hoping there's nobody there get down there throw baseball round. So that's what we did. We headed over, threw the ball around for a while, it was getting warmer. And we decided, let's just head over to the playground there, set of swings we've been on a, you know, hundreds of times, sat down on the swings, started swinging, looking around, happy there was nobody there. And when it all started, we just noticed while we were swinging, we just heard it, kind of a rumbling of a vehicle

pulling into this big parking lot. There was nobody there except that one car pulling in. Car pulls in and first of all, we saw it, we said, that's a weird looking vehicle. And, you know, now that I think about it in modern day, it kind of reminds me of that vehicle from that movie, Jeepers Creepers. Do you remember that movie? Uh-huh, uh-huh. And it's kind of a beat up old, almost like a truck.

And we look across and we could see it fairly clearly. We'd see it had blacked out windows. It was rusty as heck all over. And it kind of just puttered in. You could hear the engine going and it stopped and it just sat there. So we just kept on swinging. We were just making small talk. And so we kept side-eyeding,

wondering what's going to happen next. And finally, the door slowly opens, the driver's side door. Somebody comes out. Okay, no big deal. But we thought, that's kind of weird. The person that stepped out looked like a gentleman, but he was wearing a full-length, dark brown robe, covering right down to the ground, covering right down to maybe we could see his fingers, and a hood over his head. And we're thinking, okay, that's different. We haven't seen that before.

We've seen... That sounds like a monk. Sounds like a monk. Exactly. It's exactly what we talked about later, because this guy comes out, could not see anything other than his fingertips. could not see his face because it had a large drooping hood over it. He caught out, opened the door, left the door open, and he stood and he kind of surveyed the land. He looked across the park. He looked over where there was a little waiting pool.

He looked at the playground area. There's an old dance hall there too that closed down years ago. He looked, surveyed everything, looked around, looked back into his vehicle, I guess over to whoever was in the driver's side, and finally nod at his head, gave it a little nod. Then suddenly three other doors open. The passenger side and the two back doors all open together. And we figure, okay, this guy's going to have his kids. The weirdest thing is we look over and both our eyes just open, wide open, was that at the passenger side, another adult from the size,

what you could see, another adult in a matching monk's outfit or uniform, whatever, in a brown, similar brown robe covering everything, steps out, and out of the back to what appear to be children. Very short, very small, and they also were wearing robes. At the munk top of a robe, everything covered. So right away, that is something you can't say you see every day or every month or every year or decade. It's a bizarre thing to see, unless I guess you live in an area where there's a monastery, maybe that's

normal, but not where I lived back then in southern Ontario. So they all come out and they all kind of look around and I could see hand gestures and the driver was kind of talking to them. So they all of sudden, they all come over towards us. And I'd say we were probably, I don't know, 75 yards away from where they pulled in. Yeah. And they kind of beeline it over to where we were. And we're kind of heads down, not knowing how to react. What's up with the monk family? Yeah, I don't know exactly. I'm thinking, are they going to come talk to us, or maybe they were recruiting or something.

My friend and I, we're kind of a friend there and they said, do you see this? I said, yeah, I see this. This is, you know, just hang on. So they come over, and the man and the woman, which I'm assuming were her husband or wife, I don't know. I just, I could, you know, I couldn't see the facial features, but the way I could tell the way the man walked and the woman walked, their body shapes were different.

I'm assuming it was a husband and wife, and I assumed they were the children. So they kind of went off to the side a bit, and the kids were kind of playing, and they were kind of giggling a little bit, but again, we can't see their faces. And again, we're swinging back and forth, and then suddenly the boy,

and I'd say the boy, based on, you know, her hearing him giggling and his size, I'm guessing was maybe seven years old, And he had a younger sister who I would probably a couple of years younger maybe. She was a little shorter and high pitch voice. So he comes over to the swing right beside me. My friend's sitting on the one side of me. I'm sitting there.

And these are old iron chain swings. It's really creaky. He comes and sits beside me and I kind of look down at him. He doesn't look up. I just see his hood. He gets on there and he's trying to swing. And it was bizarre for, I watched him for a couple of minutes. He didn't know how to swing on a swing.

It was like his first time. So he's trying to push off. He's going sideways almost falling off. And my buddy and I, we look over and I said, that's kind of weird. So I felt bad for the guy and for the kid and said, you know, hey, hey, buddy, can I show you how to do that? It's easy. Can I show you?

And that's when everything kind of started. He kind of jolted up his head to look at me. And his hood fell off his face as he put his head up because I was taller than him. fell off and what I saw kind of hit me like a ton of bricks or was like sticking my finger into a live electrical sock. I just, I couldn't comprehend it. My brain was just like, because the first thing I saw was, you know, this guy, this boy's steely blue eyes. He had very bright blue eyes, but his eyebrows were not existent. I'm assuming they were shaved off. So there were no eyebrows at all. and that in itself is pretty strange.

But what took the cake is I looked at him. I said there's something, my brain was telling me there's something else that's wrong with this, boy. I look over at him and I see that his ears were, his ears are, he had basically little nubs. The way I can describe him was almost like tiny cauliflower stumps where they had been,

I'm assumed they had been cut off. some point. And my brain is kind of growing. And back then I didn't know anything about now that I'm older, but back then being a kid that's, you know, 11, 12 years old, you don't know about monks and what goes on in monasteries, whether there's, you know, certain things that happen for rituals or whatever. So my friend and I are kind of gasp when we saw these ears or non-existent ears. It was just a little bit severe left. So if that wasn't bad enough, I looked down and, right, when I kind of yelped, I looked at it, and the boy looks up, and he starts screaming in this horrendous, like, oh, my gosh.

Oh, my Lord. And it was, like, he looked normal in every way, arms, legs, but his face, no eyebrows, these little stumps for ears. But then when he screamed, and he's right beside him, I'm looking right down mouth. He had his mouth, sorry, mouth wide open. And I could see as he's screaming and gurgling, he had no tongue. Oh my. He just had his mouth wide open and passed his teeth. I just saw, again, it had been, I'm guessing, cut out. I don't think he was born that way. It was my gut feeling. And yeah, we could not comprehend what was going.

on. So when we saw that and he's screaming, we noticed that the parents, they were off to the side of it. They started coming over. And then the daughter came running over when the boy screamed. She came over and was beside him and was kind of moving her hands and looking at me. He was looking at her. And then she kind of looked up at me. And I could see her face. And can you believe her face was the same thing. No eyebrows. The ears looked mutilated. but I couldn't see in her mouth, but she was just kind of grunting, not,

she couldn't really enunciate her words. She couldn't speak properly. Do you think these were possibly non-human? In other words, were there some kind of, I mean, this is really out there, but our show does go there.

It is out there. This is stuck with me for, you know, decades and decades days. But I'm also saying my explanation is out there too. Yeah. But let me throw this out of you. I don't know how long you've looked into all of this, but are you familiar with the lore

of the black-eyed kids. Black-eyed kids? Yes, that their eyeballs are solid black. No, no. The idea is that people have these very bizarre, weird encounters with kids that have solid black eyeballs. And it's almost like something that is non-human is trying to depict itself as human

because they'll come to your door and they'll say, can I get some mayonnaise for my hot dog? They'll say things that don't make sense. And what I'm wondering, I mean, again, we're in a really kind of out there space, kind of a woo-woo space in terms of describing this. But what I'm saying was, I think your assumption is these were human. What I'm wondering is could it have been, and again, this is a little bit out there, but could these have been non-human entities almost trying to pass themselves off as human? because everything seemed a little bit off. They were all wearing monk costumes.

They were driving this old weird Beverly Hillbillies car or whatever. I mean, just a lot of things that didn't add up. You're right. So could that be, albeit a very out there explanation, one possible explanation. You know, I see you where you're going with that. It's possible. My gut feeling is that they were humans and that possibly they were monastery or part of some cult or something.

And because, like I say, the first thing that I noticed when that boy, first of all, when his hood fell back, when I first got freaked out, was seeing, I remember those blue eyes. They were either sleigh gray or blue, but they were, they weren't black. They weren't black alien eyes or anything. So that part wasn't the same. And they, for the most part, acted like normal humans would act. The parents did, other than being dressed that way, they didn't walk in a funny way or, They were active, you know, but what I did notice was when all of them were communicating,

because when they were after the side, the husband and the wife, they were what appeared to be talking to each other in sign language, which later led me to wonder, did the parents have their tongues cut out too? Tongues and I don't know. That I don't know. Because I know when the boy screen, when the girl came over, and she looked up and she was grunting, and we could see not our tongue, or lack thereof, we could. see that she had the shaved eyebrows, she had the same little clumps for ears. And that's when the

parents ran over, went right above us, we just didn't put a shadow over top of us from the sun. And they started making these like grunting, guttural, spitty, slimy sounds, which again, who knows? Maybe they didn't have tongues either. But all we could see was these angry eyes looking down at us and couldn't really see the facial features because their hoods, they were hovering above us, unlike the boy who was below me and the house. And they had to be able me and put his head back and the, you know, the hood fell back. They were looking down, but when they were down there going, my friend and I, we got off the swings and we backed away because we said,

wait a minute, we can't comprehend this, what's going on here, and we didn't know if they were going to assault us or what was going to happen. So we backed up, and then all of a sudden all of the sign language went on, and the man, the husband, whatever, he just kind of orchestrated. He said, told them all, look, you know, padded them up, I said, let's get to go get out of here. So they kind of went flying across that field to the parking lot, almost like floating across. It was really quick. All got back in the vehicle.

He started the vehicle and he just went out of there. He didn't race out, but he just went out, disappeared behind the trees. And from the time they left us until they were out of the park was maybe 45 seconds. They were gone. But we were left with our mouths or chins hanging wide open. thinking what happened. Again, being so young, if you're older in your 20s, 30s, you've formulated theories about different things,

but we were just in shock thinking, did somebody torture these people, or were they in a cult or some kind of a thing where they disfigured them for a reason, for some type of worship thing, or who knows, he just did not understand that at all. But when you were talking about these black-eyed kids? Yeah, that type of thing. And that's, again, that's another story.

Hopefully, one day I'll get on a podcast or whether it's another story where I had something like that with. Oh, really? That happened, you know, but that happened at an airport. I've been on hundreds of planes, but I'll get to that at a later date. I did. Yeah, we would love to have you back on. And by the way, on the Black Eye Kid Phenomenon, I have the opportunity. I've had the opportunity to talk to the gentleman who had kind of like the case in the 90s that got, and he was a journalist.

and a very kind of down-to-earth guy, Brian Bethel. But he told the story of his experience in the 90s, which kind of kicked off of this whole question about these black-eyed kids. I have one, Gary, I know your new listener, but there's one quote out there I love. And I think that your story kind of pertains to it. Or it pertains to your story.

Not only is the universe stranger than we understand, the universe is stranger than we can understand. There's so much we don't know. Very true. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Well, thank you for sharing this story. No, my pleasure.

And there's one sidebar. Just one little thing to this is that there was a continuation to this, meaning once this happened, these people were gone. My friend and I were just looking at each other saying, what the hell just happened? You know, we couldn't understand it. And after that, we kind of talked about it for a while. and it was like 13, 14, 15 years later, I was employed at a place similar to like a RadioShack,

electronic store where I worked in sales. And I was working in there, and I was in there alone, and a couple of young guys come into the store. They were probably in their imagining 20s or so, 2025. They come into the store, they're in the back. I see them looking around, looking around. So I approached them from behind, and I said, hey, guys, can I help you find anything in particular?

they weren't in robes, but they turned around. Guess what I saw? No eyebrows, the blue eyes and the no tongue? Almost. No eyebrows, the same little fluster cauliflower ears where the ears would be mutilated. They didn't open their mouths so I can look to see their tongues. But when they went to answer, when I said, It's going to help you find something.

They both just look right at me and what, which is a half a lot, meaning either they had no tongues or they couldn't speak, but they couldn't enunciate their words. They couldn't. Wow. And that was bizarre because it was 13, 14, 15, whatever. It was like more than 10 years later. Yeah, you were in the working world by then.

Yeah. And when you go to this whole alien theory where these guys came in their purposely to check on me because I was somehow tagged. That's just going way out there again. I mean, it is out there, but the whole experience is out there. Gary, thank you for sharing it. I can't wait to hear your other stories, and we have a saying around here. We sign off with everyone.

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Next up, we have Crystal on the line for Wisconsin. She heard about the campfire from the great Jimmy Church and Fade to Black. Jimmy has had me on his show multiple times, including a couple of Halloween's. It's always great to have him on, and I'm hoping to get him on the paranormal podcast this year, but he's a great guy. And Crystal found us from Jimmy's show, so we appreciate that very much. And Crystal came prepared. She is wearing her stay spooky beanie. So thank you, Crystal. And thank you for being a part of the campfire. And please tell us your story. Thanks for having me, Jim. I really appreciate being on the show. So a little bit of background. and will start basically with the delivery of my daughter.

So I have three kids, a 20-year-old and an 18-year-old and a 10-year-old. So most of these stories are about my 18-year-old. So when she was born or when I was delivering her, they had given me a top off of my epidural and not realizing that I was actually ready to deliver. And then all of a sudden I was ready to deliver. And then as soon as I started trying to deliver, my blood pressure would drop. I would black out.

Her heart rate would drop down almost into like the 50s. So they would bring in, they brought in NICU really, really quick because it was not happening. Every time I would go to push, I would black out. And then her heart rate would plummet. So basically. it was kind of like we were both dying on the table and it finally she finally got delivered and when they brought me back so they kept having to push epidephrine to bring me back so that I could talk because I could hear everything that was going on but I couldn't speak and I didn't know what was

truly going on so then when I came to I noticed she wasn't crying and they tell me oh she's here everything's good. I was like, but she's not crying. And my doctor said, oh, she's here. She's sitting here staring at all of us, just kind of figure out what's going on. And I said, but she needs to cry. And they're like, oh, we're trying, but she just won't cry. And so she just, that's kind of how she was throughout her entire, you know, as an infant where she was just watching the world and just observing and taking everything in. That's kind of how we described it. And then when she got to the point where she could actually start talking,

she would, one of the big things I remember most about her was that she could, she would always say, we'd be doing something. All of a sudden, she'd say, don't you remember? Don't you remember when I was the mama and you were the baby? Whoa. Don't you remember when I was the mommy and you were. were in my belly. We did this and this and this and this. And I was just kind of like, no, please tell me more. Well, that's really it. I mean, I was the mommy for a while and now you're

the mommy. And I'm just like, okay. Oh, my Lord. Sure. Okay. And then there was one time my oldest was sleeping and he was in his room sleeping. And my daughter and I were just laying on the couch snuggling by the fire and all of a sudden she sits bolt up right and goes and I said what's going on? She goes, he's gone now. And I said, what?

She goes, oh, there was a little boy in the bathroom screaming. Help me, help me. But he's gone now. Oh, my. I was just like, okay. Sure. Let's just snuggle some more. And so that was kind of like the weirdest one that ever happened with her.

There was some other ones where toys would go on and off. We would stop. Like I'd take the batteries out and they'd still keep working. So we kind of got used to that hearing noises in the house. And then one of the other times that was really creepy was we were driving down the street. We came to a four-way stop. And out of the corner of my eye, I could see that there was a kind of, car coming down on my right side and I was making a left turn. So I just made the left turn,

parked, you know, pulled over so that the cop could pass me. And she started screaming in the back seat saying, no, no, no, no, no, you can't do this. You can't stop. And I said, why can't I stop? I have to. There's a cop coming. And she said, don't you remember what happened last time? They weren't real cops and they came and shot us all. Oh, my gosh. She was about three at the time. And my gosh. She was about three at the time. And My son was about four. So I looked at him and I said, is this something that you watch at your dad's house? Is this something that you see on TV?

And he goes, no, dad doesn't let us watch that kind of stuff. And I said, I wouldn't think that he would. And she was like, no, this really happened. Don't you remember this happening? And I was like, no. And she would just get really antsy, like watching the car and watch the cop go by. And as soon as it passed, she kind of settled down a little bit. So that was a creepy one.

And then she would tell me about this little or this woman in yellow that would come visit her at her grandma's house. And I said, what does she look like? She goes, I don't know. And I really don't know what she's saying. She's speaking in other language. She says, I think it's Portuguese. And as a three-year-old, she doesn't know what Portuguese sounds like. No, Portuguese is?

Yeah, what is that all about? I don't even know that I know exactly what Portuguese sound right now. I'm not that bright, but hey. Exactly. And I'm just like, okay. And she's like, yeah, she just comes and visits me. And she talks to me, but I don't know what she's really saying. Huh.

You know, that's amazing to me. I mean, it's all amazing, but that story about when you were the mom, when I was the mommy and you were the baby, I mean, that is wild. And they do say, I mean, people adherence to reincarnation say that many times we have these groups of people that we choose to interface with lifetime over lifetime and the roles shift. So this would play perfectly into that kind of theory where one time you are the mom and one time you are the baby and one time you are the sister and one time you are the brother.

You know, yeah, interesting stuff. And we've had, and I know you said you're a Plus member, thank you for that. And everybody should join Jimherald.com slash plus. But you had said that you're going through the archive. I think you've made it to about episode 300 for both this show and the paranormal podcast, which, hey, great, thank you. But you'll come across this story probably in a couple hundred episodes by a woman named Kate in the UK on the campfire. And she talks about, and this is one that I share when I go out on talks. she talks about her son asking for his daddy.

And then she said, no, your daddy went to work. He said, no, not my daddy, my father. And, you know, the one with the white beard, it's like, whoa. So these things out of the mouths of babes come these amazing revelations. And what do they mean? I don't know exactly. Yeah, she says she has a feeling that we've been together for a long time and we just kind of change roles every now and then, which I tend to believe as well. It's just one of those things

when she was little. I always felt like she was an old soul. And I know a lot of people say that, but when it comes to her, like there's just something there and she's just, yeah, an old soul. And we're getting matching tattoos eventually, just about being together for a long time. Oh, that's cool. You know, the thing about old soul, I've always felt that I'm an old song. I've always had an interest in old stuff, old time radio and old time music and maybe that's why everybody when they listen thinks I'm 90 years old. I'm not 90 years old, folks. I'm middle-aged. I'm not 90 years old. So, because people say, oh, I heard his voice and then I saw him on video. And I was like, whoa, he's not 90 years old. So, you know, there's that.

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Next up on the Campfire return caller, just seemed like we just spoke with her. Rosemary is on the line from Colorado. And before we get started, we have some very important business to get to. A big shout out to her husband, Jeff, who is part of the last story she told last. time she was on. There's a story she's going to tell that he's a part of again. So, Jeff,

thank you for watching, for listening, and stay spooky. Rosemary, good to see you again after all this time. And tell us, tell us what happened. Okay, so these are both almost humorous little stories. This first one concerns me and the second one happened to my husband. So we're both private chefs, so we go to people's houses and prep meals for them. Cool. Throughout the week. So I was at a client's house, and I think this would have been a Tuesday in July to get the exact date. But one of the things she wanted was a pasta salad, and she had a bag of gluten-free pen-a pasta for me to use.

And so I did all that, all the various vegetables and a basil dressing, all the things. And it was very cognizant of the fact it was pen-A. You know, I tasted it. I worked with it, you know, very cognizant that that's what it was. Sure. There again five days later, because I had an opening of my schedule. I don't usually go back that soon, but she wanted me back. And there was still leftovers of that salad in the refrigerator.

It had the same label on it with my handwriting, all the same ingredients. But when I looked at it, it had turned into the bow tie pasta and there was no longer thin it. I know, right? I'm like, I know for a fact. It was a penny that I worked with. Can you say multiverse? Can you say multiverse? Interdimensional pasta.

That would be a good show name. Interdimensional pasta. I like that. Do you think, let me ask you this. You know, that last story you told us, if I'm remembering right, it was about this lady who showed up where she shouldn't have been while you were on the train in San Francisco. Do you think that somehow maybe you are tuned in? into this sort of thing? Like, you have, you know, they talk about some people being able to see things psychically.

Do you think that you're tuned to see these time glitches or maybe tap into the multiverse or something? Just maybe in this short period, because my husband's is really similar to. Maybe we were caught in some ripple. I don't know if it's not. Like, I really wish I had more experiences and saw things and I don't usually have things like this. But all three happened and really. short interval between.

So I don't, I wish it was more sensitive than I was. But your husband's, now your husband's experience, you're going to tell us about that one too, right? Yeah. So that also kind of relates to, he was at another client. And this client doesn't have very many pots and pans to work with. So he has to keep using the same ones over and over. So they had a large skillet he needed to use.

And it was dirty. from his previous dish so he goes to the sink, cleans it off, and gets out a fresh dry towel to wash, you know, dry it off, does all that, turns back around to the range

to do whatever he was doing over there. A minute later, he turns around to grab the clean pan, and he says that it was still completely dirty like he had never touched it. Huh. And that weird part is that the fresh towel he had used to dry it

was damp like it had actually been used. And he calls me, he's like, this is the weirdest thing. don't understand what the hell this happened. Wow. And the one happened in July, and when did this one happen again? It was also in July. This was like a week later. And then in August, and then in August you saw the lady in San Francisco. Some weird little, it just all happened so close together. It's like the Mandela effect, but usually when you think of the Mandela effect, do you think of something like societal, like the way that Oscar Meyer or the Berenstain Bears are spelled or

you know, Sinbad was in a certain movie or something like that. Or the Mandela Effect, a lot of people thought they had heard of Nelson Mandela dying before he actually died. That's where the name came from. And what was interesting, I actually got to interview the woman who created the phrase Mandela Effect. But the weird thing was, is she had been on my show about a totally different subject. It once the Mandela Effect started to become popularized in her.

I reached it back out to her. And I never got a response, which was kind of eerie. Now, it could be just that was an old email address or something. There may be nothing more behind it, but I did try to reach her and said, hey, you've coined this incredible phrase. And it's, you know, whether people believe it in or not, it's taken the world by storm. Can we talk about it? And I never heard anything again. So, you know.

One of those that really gets me is the Monopoly guy and his monocle. Yeah. I remember learning what a monocle was as a little kid because he was wearing one. Like, that's how I knew what it was. And they're like, never was wearing that. And I, yeah. It's weird. Somebody asked me what I thought about the Hadron Collider the other day.

Why is being interviewed on another show? And it's like, first of all, I tend to think that it's just a scientific experiment. And there's nothing to it in terms of like, you know, we're like breaking the, universe or something. But you do kind of wonder, because all this stuff seemed to come on. And I remember the same thing. I remember the monocle. That's definitely one of those Mandela effects. Like, yeah, I'm on board with that one. I certainly remember that. So who knows. But it makes it fun to think about. And I'm so glad that you and Jeff, and again, a shout out to Jeff. Stay spooky, Jeff. And thank you both for your support. I know your Plus Club member. I appreciate it very much.

Thanks for sharing these glitches in the Matrix with us. Thank you. Stay spooky. Michelle is on the line from Illinois, and she says she listens loyally, but sometimes she has to take a break. It gets a little too spooky. Things get spooky, but then she always comes back, which is the main thing. Michelle, thank you for listening. Glad we haven't scared you off permanently.

Not yet. Not yet. And we hope that we don't. Now, this stories I understand is about a shared dream. And we just recently had one of those on the show. I think this is a fascinating phenomenon. And I'd love to hear your story. Thank you for joining us and tell us what happened.

Of course. Actually, listening, I think it was the November 6th podcast. There was a couple of dream experiences, which kind of like reinforced. Okay, yeah, I need to go on. I need to talk about this. So it starts simple enough. I was having a dream, just innocent dream. And in it, there was a whiteboard. And there was a vertical, I guess, row of colors. And, you know, blue, green, yellow, orange, and, you know,

just a handful of colors. And next to each color was a description. And I was stating each color, and I was saying the description of each color. And I was talking to my three-year-old. And after I got done saying each color and what it meant, I looked at them and I said, you know what, why don't you tell me what color you want to do? And at that point in time, I was like abruptly woken up because I heard one of my kids yell out from their room, which is an abnormal, you know, they're little, you know, they have to use faster or they need water or they want to come in and just puddle. So that wasn't odd.

So I laid in there kind of between my dream and. and waking up and I'm like, honestly, oh, God, I hope they just go back to sleep. But then I heard them yell again, and I woke up even faster because I realized what was being yelled was blue. So initially, I'm like, no, no way, this isn't happening. I'm in between dream stayed. I'm not fully awake yet. And at the same time, I'm kind of coming out of my dream now.

So I can't, I can't remember what the colors mean. But I do remember having the conversation in my dream about the colors and what they mean and what one do you want to do. But I'm still in denial. So I'm like, there's no way. I'm still half asleep. But nonetheless, I hear his little feet come pounding down the hallway. So our rooms aren't close to each other. And as he's coming down the hallway, it's almost an excited blue.

And then I'm like, oh my God, he's really saying a color. Like, this is going back to my dream. He is, he wants blue. I don't remember what blue is, but that's what he wants. But even then, still in a little bit of a denial, even though I'm pretty sure I'm full awake now. But the real kicker is, is when he comes into my room, he crawls in right up next to me. And he says to me, Mom, I pick blue. And he put his head down.

And I'm like, oh, my, oh, my gosh. And I'm like, what is blue? what does blue mean? And at that point, he never answered me. He was already like fast asleep. So I'm not even sure if he was really ever fully awake. Right. But so it took me a really long time to fall back to sleep because I was torn between,

is this real or am I, you know, mixing up reality versus dreaming because I was coming out of the dream. So then I wake up in the morning and I'm getting ready for work and I'm in the bathroom and he wakes up and he comes in there and he's, you know, talking me about toddler stuff. And I'm like, how do I ask him about this without leading him? Right. I don't want to put ideas in his head, but I also want to know, was it real or was I, you know, half dream making some of it.

Right. So I simply just said to him, hey, do you remember what color you picked? And he looks at me and he says, yeah, blue. But I was like, oh, my gosh. And at that point, like, I was like, you know, goosebumps and skin crawling. And I wish I would have remembered to ask him at that point what Blue meant. But I was so kind of floored and drawn back, like, did this really happen, that I never did find out what Blue meant. So it sounds like you guys did, you were kind of co-creating and kind of co-creating and

co-participating in that dream at the same time. So, I mean, I'm sure you've like looked this up and done a little bit of research and things. Do you have any theories as to what was going on here? You know, I don't know that I have any theories. I've listened to a lot of stuff on your show. And I believe in frequencies. And I don't know if during that dream state. And I do feel like him and I have like a, I don't want to say, stronger bond, but there's just, there's a lot of things that happen between him and I where I feel like maybe there is some kind of like, he knows what I'm thinking. Like a telepathy. Yeah, or knows what I need because a lot of times if I'm frustrated, he'll just come over and give me a hug and be like, I love you, mom. And I'm like, I kind of knew that at that point in time.

But yeah, I feel like for him, like he's very sensory perception of what I'm needing, I guess. And I don't know if during sleep, we just kind of met on the same frequency. But, yeah, I don't know. It was really strange and interesting. And when it happened, I was like, all right, this is the story I take to the campfire. Well, I think it's a great one. And as I often say, some of the best campfire stories end with a question mark, not with a period. And that's certainly the case here.

and, you know, the whole head scratcher thing, just things that aren't easily categorizable, but just make you go, what in the world was that all about? Michelle, thank you for making us think and telling us about that special dream, that special connection, and thank you for being a part of the campfire

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and she's been listening since 2020. She found us from our friends over at Astonishing Legend, Scott and Force. Nobody does it better than them. So definitely check their show out. They are awesome, as is Chris for being with us today. And Chris has a story about her mom and dad. Chris, welcome to the show. Thank you for joining us.

And I saw a little bit about what you're talking about. And I've always found this interesting, and it seems to be a very real. thing. Please talk to us about what happened. It's, it's all one story, but it has three specific parts to it. So my mom had, first of all, thank you for having me here. My mom had Alzheimer's diagnosed in 2010, and so in 2023, she had already had it for 13 years, and she had a really rapid decline in towards the late fall of 2023, or early fall of 2023. And so she was on palliative care, And then my dad was sick and we took him to urgent care one day. And I get a call from my kids saying, grandma's not responding.

And I said, go to, you know, call 911. So my eldest daughter and I switched places. My dad, she sat with my dad at his urgent care visit. And I followed my mom to the hospital. And she was in for a couple days. But my dad, unfortunately, it was not a good diagnosis for him. And he ended up in the hospital that same week. So she came home and about two days later, he was in the same in the hospital.

The first interesting thing is that they put him in the same exact emergency room that she was in. And all the nurses recognized me. And then when she was there, they didn't have a place for her to stay. And they finally found a room on the oncology ward. And that's where my dad was. And he was in the same room. And again, the nurses were like, what? You're here again?

Don't even ask. So this makes sense further on the connection between my parents. They would have been married for 60 years on December 28th. So they were together for almost more than 60 years, actually. So it wasn't a good diagnosis, stage 4 cancer. But his whole purpose and his whole reason to fight and get treatment was my mom. He knew that she was on palliative care and he wanted to come home and help take care of her. So he's in the hospital.

my mom's on palliative care. And I remember distinctly one night my daughter called me, my younger daughter called me and said, Mom, who is this person? And I said, well, that's Grandma's mom. And then she said, okay. And then she said, who's this person? And I said, well, that's grandma's dad. What's going on?

And she said, Mom, Grandma, who for the past few weeks has been very uncommunicative, you know, not lucid conversations whatsoever. She said she's just had a conversation with her mom. and dad. And I said, okay, I'll be right home. And so I go home and, and I have that same conversation with my mom. She's sitting up. She's having a very coherent conversation with me. And she's telling me all about how her mom and dad were there and they were going to take her to the ocean and she was going to have ice cream and then they were going to go to the country and have a picnic. And she was very excited about it. And then almost, right, just in, again, not communicative.

really up to this point. And so, and then she had kind of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, we really learned to expect. She would have moments of being in and out. So, she kind of just checked out again. But we noticed she started staring at the ceiling and she would, you know, kind of mumble things. And so she went very quickly from palliative care to hospice care while my dad was in the hospital. And that was the incident that made that happen because the nurse was like, no, this she needs hospice. So my mom is now on home hospice. My dad's still in the hospital getting treatment, and he was gone for quite a while.

And while he was gone, her talking to people that were dead kept happening. It was a nightly occurrence. She would stare up at the ceiling and then just mumble. She would reach out to hold somebody's hand. She would reach out to hug somebody. More than once, she would be petting a dog next to her, we assume, was a dog. petting like what we assumed was a cat on her belly. You know, she would eat like a lick an ice cream cone or eat food and she would write in the air.

And this was a nightly occurrence. Fast forward, my dad comes home. And my mom is now in this state where she's really not lucid anymore. She's not mobile. Last time you saw her, she could sit up, she could talk to him. and I kind of saw his whole reason for fighting kind of leave him. So she was declining fast. And so probably within a week, we were a week away from Christmas.

Within a week, he was back in the hospital. So now at this point, he's on high flow oxygen. And he's still very lucid, still very coherent. And, you know, this time we're having those horrible conversations that, Nobody wants to have with their parent. And we're talking about business that we have to handle before and after. He's coming to terms with, you know, eventually he's, this is it for him. And so he's very business oriented and very business-minded.

And then he starts fixating on the date on his status board in the hospital room. And he's counting. He's like, okay. And I said, Dad, what are you doing? He says, well, I need to, I know I have 35 days covered by. insurance. I need to be home by the 1st of January. I was like, dad, that's only a couple weeks away. You're fine. You're covered. He's like, I have to be home by the first of January. I said, okay, you're fine. And I kind of dismissed it a little bit. Not dismissed it, but I was like,

you're fine, you're fine. Right. Sure. Yeah. And so fast forward, you know, a couple days. Unfortunately, my dad decided to go on hospice, you know, come off the high flow oxygen. And shortly after that he did fall into a coma and then he passed on December 23rd. And so my mom in the meantime also had stopped eating and drinking. She had declined that fast. And we did not expect her to survive through Christmas, but she did. And we thought, well, okay, they are so connected. They had not been apart in 60 years pretty much unless it was a quick business trip for my dad or my mom. And we thought, well, okay, it's December 28. Maybe she's holding out for December 28th.

No. She unbelievably survived that. And circumstances that I can't get into because of time, I was alone with my mom, New Year's Eve. And she was then on 24-hour hourly pain meds that I was administering to her. And, you know, I was up all night every hour on the hour. and she actually ended up passing on January 1st. Right. Ties back to your dad, yeah.

Ties back to my dad. Like, you know, you just hear about people who are connected in such a way that it's like weird. And this was definitely like to me. And I even mentioned it on the Facebook group. I typed that in. And, you know, people are like, you got to go on Jim's show. I was like, I'm not ready to talk about this. right now. I am not ready to talk about it yet. So it's been a couple years, obviously. And, but,

yeah, so that, that was, that and what happened with my mom talking, you know, to people who aren't there anymore, my dad had something like that happened in the hospital. He felt like he kept turning away from something that was next to him. And nobody else is in the room. I said, dad, what's wrong? And he's like, well, there's a woman here. And she's trying to kiss me or tell something. Having experienced what I experienced with my mom, I kind of took it in stride and just said, okay, do you recognize her? No, because I thought maybe it's his mom. No. And I said, well, do you know who it is? No. I said, is she scaring you? And he said, no, but I don't like her. Oh. Well, let me tell. I don't want her next to me. There's a couple things. First of all,

I believe that, you know, in some cases, maybe not all cases, but some people can, in certain situations, can will themselves to live beyond a certain point. And then I think that they have the power to mentally somehow let go. Absolutely. And it sounds like what your dad did. He's like, yeah, I know she's cared for. I know she's going to be joining me soon. It's okay to let go. And then And the fact that comment he made, I had to be home by January 1st. That was a very telling comment. And then with your mom and your dad seeing these people, I mean, I know that a lot of people say, oh, this is, there's even a phrase for it. I forget what it is.

But basically some people who are the more materialistic types and, you know, hardcore skeptics, they're like, well, this is an end of life hallucination or some time because of lack of oxygen or blah, blah, blah. I don't believe it. This went on for over a month. Yeah, I don't believe it. Yeah, that went on for a month. I believe this is people. These are people. And there's even my wife has stories of one of her uncle that was calling out to his mother right before he died. And, you know, the interesting thing you said she was, I think you said she was looking at the ceiling. That's very common too, looking at the ceiling or looking at the corner of a room. I mean, and these things.

My grandmother did. She died. She died. She also died. in this house. And she did that the night she died. She was staring at the ceiling talking to somebody. It happens time after time after time. It happens across cultures. It happens

now. It happened 100 years ago. It happened 200 years ago. I'll believe for a minute it's simply just some kind of hallucination. Not that people can't have hallucinations, but I don't believe these are hallucinations or something different. It's a very good YouTuber

and I'd like to get her on the shows. I need to reach out. I hope I can her hospice nurse Julie. And she talks about a lot of these kind of instances. And it's just incredibly common. It's just incredibly common. And I mean, you can explain anything away if you try hard enough. But I think this really says there is something deeper.

There's a connection to the other side and obviously a 60 plus year connection with your parents. And I mean, I'm sure it's got to be tough. But on the other hand, I've got to be, I think it's got to be somewhat comforting to know that they're together and also that there are loved ones on the other side there to meet them. Absolutely. And I after, and I don't know if we have time for this, but there was another kind of interesting thing that happened after they both passed. Yeah. So fast forward to me having to deal with, you know, cremations, this was the holidays. My dad didn't get, I don't know, for lack of a better term,

didn't get processed very quickly so that because they prepaid for a package, the same mortuary had them. And I found out that they were together at the mortuary, which I was like, this is so my parents. And I was on the phone talking about the cremation and trying to find out if they could be cremated together the same day. And they said, yes. And I said, can we be on the premises? And earlier that day, I'd asked my parents, I was like, please, please just give me a sign. I'm lost. I'm alone. I don't have anybody helping me through this. I don't know what I'm doing. I need, please tell me I'm doing okay. What am I doing? Are you guys okay? I just want to sign. I'll make it easy, just a feather on the middle of the floor. And so fast forward to this phone call

later that day. I'm on the phone and they're trying to sell me a $500 package to stand in a room with music to watch my parents be cremated. I'm like, I just want to be on the premises. And I'm kind of hemming and hoying back and forth in my mind. And just as I'm about ready to say, Yes or no, I see an Amazon driver through the front window of my house, come up in my drive. And I'm watching him as I'm trying to figure out what to do. And I'm asking this lady, did they pay for this? And she said, no, they didn't prepay for this. And I'm like, okay, hold on.

The Amazon driver's here. And just as I look up, I hear this thud on my door. And my first thought was, this guy just threw my package at my door. And so I excuse myself from the phone call. And I go and there's an outline of a bird, unfortunately. However, there was no bird there. But what was there on the doormat was a feather. Wow.

And I came back to the phone call. I said, you know, I think my parents knew what they were doing when they declined that option. And I'm going to pass. We don't need to see them. We just wanted to be there. But it's okay. None of us wanted to watch this happen. And I'm okay.

I'm not going to give you $500 for that. So it was just another, you know, and I haven't had a lot of signs or anything like that. But that was a pretty, that was a pretty big sign in my mind. It's almost like my dad who was very practical and pragmatic was like, Chris, save your darn money. Save your money. We didn't think it was important to pay for it and we don't want you to pay for it. So, yeah.

Makes sense. Makes sense. Chris, thank you for sharing a very personal and poignant story tonight. Well, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Next up on the campfire is Kelly from Pennsylvania. and her friend Jill told her about the show,

and she's been hooked on the show ever since, and be like Jill and tell a friend today about the campfire. Heck, even text them a link to the show, whether it's not from YouTube or Spotify or Apple Podcast, wherever you'll watch or listen, and that way they can come on and tell their story like Kelly is about to. And Kelly has three unexplainable experiences, and she's going to tell us about it.

Hi, Kelly. Welcome to the show. So this is all related about my grandmother. She passed away in about 1997, and she was your typical grandmother that I loved, and she was the person I'd go to to get out splinters, and she would rock me when I was sick. So when she passed away, it was very sad. So move forward a couple of years. I went to a cellular session with my friend Jill, and in that session, you go with an intention. And in that intention, it was about my grandmother and not being there when she passed.

the way. And during that cellular session, the only thing I felt was this whole rocking sensation throughout my body, which to me was my grandmother rocking me on the swing anytime I was sick and she would rub my back. So a beautiful, beautiful thing. Move forward a couple of more years. I have a dream. And in this dream, I met my grandmother's house where she was when I was little. And she was introducing me as her granddaughter to her sister that I never got to meet. And that wasn't something that was like a fake dream. Maybe not a fake dream, but I know in my head in some realm that really did happen. It was very real. It felt very real. Yes. Absolutely. Very, very, very, very real. And then after that, I just always kind of felt like when I was going to sleep at night,

that I would be able to see my grandmother if I was open to it. And I love her and miss her, but I'd always say, I love and miss you, but if I see you, I'm going to lose my marbles. So please don't let me physically see you. It's too much for me to handle. So move forward a couple of more years, and this is where the incidents incur. I lived in a house from day one, never felt scared in it. Been there a couple of years, fall time.

All the windows are closed in the house. I'm watching TV downstairs with my puppy dog. Upstairs, I hear a door just slam. I mean, slam aggressively. Scared me, obviously. Took me probably two, three hours to go upstairs to investigate and all the doors that were supposed to be open, we're open. I was like, I'm just going to go back downstairs and forget about this ever happened.

So a couple of nights later, I'm in my bedroom, middle of the day, underneath my feet from the limergram downstairs and I'm not making up anything, I'm not exaggerating anything, I can feel knocking underneath my feet, knocking. Huh. Yeah. So then the very last incident, again, this all happened with the week. I wake up in the little night.

I'm very groggy. Look outside. Okay, it's still dark out. I should go back to sleep. So I close my eyes. And on my nightstand, if you remember, iPods, how tiny they are. Oh, yeah.

My iPod to turn it on, I had to use my fingernail to get that little knob to push it up so it turn it on. So I'm laying there, eyes closed, trying to go back to sleep. iPod just randomly turns on for no reason. So, move. Oh, so then I was so scared the next day I talked to my neighbor. I'm like, did the old owners ever had a problem? She reached out to them.

She was still friends with them. They said, no. no issues. So my neighbor brought me over a house blessing. I had the house blessed. No more issues. Move forward a couple of years. I go see a medium that a friend had gone to see that absolutely loved and swore by. So throughout this medium and talking to her, she was like, you know, I feel like your grandmother's been trying to reach you. And it didn't hit me then, but looking back at it years later, I'm like, that was probably my grandmother in my house trying to say hi to me because I told her I didn't want to see her. And now I shush her out of the house.

So I kind of felt bad about that. Well, obviously, I did feel bad about that. Well, I think she would know, though. She would know the situation, I'm sure, and realize. I mean, I do believe they, on the other side, have a greater appreciation or greater understanding of what's going on on our side than maybe we do. So I bet you she knew that you were just afraid and didn't put two and two together. So I wouldn't beat yourself up about that at all. But overall, does this make you more, does this make you feel better?

It does. And I have one other thing that actually happened to. And this is like the best thing that's ever happened to me on the whole entire life. So this was just last summer. And I wake up like four, 13 in the morning after having this dream about my grandmother. And in my head, I thought for sure that my brother had the exact same dream. So I was certain to make sure of the time. I texted my dad right away because I didn't want to forget one single detail about this dream.

My brother didn't have the same dream I find out, but the dream goes as this. I, in this dream, I made a dress shop with my grandmother. And it's like these high top hangars that hold clothes. And my grandmother's on the other side and I can see just her head. And there's a lady dressed in like all sequence talking to her. And I'm like tapping my foot. I'm like, come on, lady, hurry. up like I want to talk to my gram hurry it up so finally this lady goes away and I go over to my

gram and in this dream it's like it's not like the dream I had about my gram introducing me to her to her sister this was like the realest thing that I've ever ever felt like it wasn't a dream it's like on some plane I was physically there in this in this stretch up with my grandmother and I went over and I told her like how much I missed it. and how much I'd love her and she didn't say anything and she came in for a hug and I couldn't physically see it but I knew that there were angel wings that wrapped around my whole entire body and just enclosed me and she didn't say anything but it's like I just felt the most warm wonderful loving all over like wash your body in this you can't even explain it how

wonderful and warm it was. And then I woke up just bawling, bawling hysterically of like, I can't believe I got to experience this, that I got to see my grandmother and just joy and love and happiness. But it was the realest thing I've ever experienced in my life. It was just outstanding. That is awesome. And as I often say, campfire stories can be very scary, very frightening, but they can also be reassuring and very heartwarming and kind of. I'm glad that you've had those kind of experiences. So thank you. Thank Jill.

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caller, she says she never misses an addition of the campfire. And she's contributed before. We've got Margaret from Texas back. And she's going to tell us, well, I guess maybe like about a little friend she has. Actually, I'm not from Texas. I'm from Tennessee now. You're from Tennessee. see now. Oh, my goodness, it said Texas on here. I know. You know? Well, we can fix that. We can fix that. I'll take care of that while you're telling your story. Margaret, thank you for joining us again and tell us what happened. Well, this was a few years ago, and I was, I do historical and genealogical research and I go on the road. So I had come down from New England and I was in Nashville at the archives. And I'd spent the day there and then I had an appointment the next day.

So I had about two hour drive. I got out at five when they closed and got on into State 40. And I was driving toward my next stop when it was a big thunderstorm came up. And I don't like thunderstorms. So I got off, I was looking, decided I'd look for a motel or a hotel. There weren't too many. And then I found a small, one-story motel on the side of the road. And I thought, that's funny. So I pulled in. It was one of those you'd pull right up to the front door. Thunderstorm was still off in the distance. I walked in. The decor was kind of 60. kind of cranberry and dark green. I had a very peaceful feeling, which I really didn't expect.

I don't think I've ever gone into a hotel and thought, oh, this is peaceful, but it was. And then I sat outside and watched someone else's thunderstorm for quite a while. Got darker, and I went in, and again, it was this peaceful feeling. I thought I'd just go to bed early so I could get up and get to my next stop. And I fell asleep, I think, pretty well, pretty rapidly. And at 5 o'clock in the morning, I, there was a hand on my shoulder, and it was shaking me vigorously, vigorously. And I was on my right side, and I could, and it was just, but I had,

been in the deepest sleep. So I was coming out of the sleep and kept thinking, what is that? What is that? And then as I really came to my, out of the sleep, the shaking stopped, but it was almost as if I could still feel an impression. Because I kept saying, did that really happen? That's crazy. And the other crazy thing was it didn't scare me. I just, I looked around the room and there was light coming maybe from streetlights or something like that. So I could see the room very easily and there was nobody in it. I probably got up and went to look in the bathroom and make sure there was nobody there either. and then I climbed back into bed with this thought,

like what was that? I know I can almost still feel the hand on my shoulder, but I went to sleep. I went back to sleep. The next morning, I think it was about seven I got up, and I remembered that the exit I took off the interstate was a battle area, civil war battle area. So I Googled.

I googled it and in the description it said it was a very early battle and suddenly I felt as if someone had been waking me for that battle. Oh my. That I had been thrown back in time and was experiencing somebody who wanted me to get up and get going because there was a battle. Huh. I know. It's just crazy. So I didn't ask anybody at the office. I just drove out, but I got a kick out of my brain because I thought, well, that was kind of interesting. How about maybe we do that again? And the other half of my brain said, no way.

Wow. So you think this spirit in this hotel was, or motel, was just trying to rouse you to get you ready for the upcoming battle? That's what it. The more I ran it through my head, that's exactly what it felt like. Now, you mentioned that the hotel was kind of like very kind of 60s motif. Do you think that was one story? Yeah. Do you think it was just a place of what hadn't been updated for a long time?

Or do you think maybe you entered some kind of weird twilight zoney time slip? No, I think it was just the way it was. Maybe it had been in one family for a long time. time. I've never had that kind of an experience before. I've heard things. I've seen an orb zip through my living room and go up the stairs as if it were disgusted with me once that was in another house. I have these little things happening. In fact, I have a quick story, I can tell you if you'd like. Sure, go ahead. We essentially, we finally moved from New England to West Tennessee, into an old antevalum house. And I had a horse that had fungi on his

foot. So we had to go and get him and put some fungicide on his wound. Sure. I dropped the cap to the bottle, a little tiny bottle, in the ground, and we couldn't see it because of all the grass and clover. So we just left, went back up to the barn. The next morning, the ferrier was there. She was there. So my helper went to get the bottle because we could now put some more on him. And he came to me with a big smile on his face and he's holding up the bottle. He said, oh, you found the top. And I had not found the top. Nobody else had found the top.

So that began three or four instances in this old antebellum house. Not bad, but people, we lose things. And if I talk nicely, they come back. Interesting. Interesting. That's your little spirit friend you were talking about when you submitted. Well, Margaret, sorry to put you, you know, a thousand miles south originally, but we got you into Tennessee there on the readout.

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