Jim Harold's Campfire - Voices That Weren't There - Jim Harold's Campfire 751

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

It started with a creaky floorboard in an otherwise ordinary house. At first it seems like the kind of thing you would expect in a place built decades ago. But over time, the little things start to add up. Keys disappear and are never found again. A recliner moves as if someone has just gotten out of it. One early morning, a dark figure appears partially hidden in a hallway doorway. And just before the family moves out, the witness hears what sounds like two young girls having a conversation in an empty part of the house. What begins as a few odd moments slowly becomes something much harder to explain. In this episode of Jim Harold’s Campfire, listeners share a variety of experiences that range from unsettling to deeply meaningful. One caller recounts a vivid dream that feels like a genuine visit from a beloved grandmother who passed years earlier. Another family deals with strange happenings in their kitchen where everyday items seem to vanish, reappear, or move when no one is around. As always, these real-life stories from listeners remind us that the unexplained often shows up quietly, in the middle of ordinary life. Stay spooky. VIRTUAL CAMPFIRE GROUPJoin our FREE online community at ⁠https://virtualcampfiregroup.com⁠ YOUTUBE CHANNELBe sure to subscribe to Jim’s YouTube channel at: ⁠https://youtube.com/jimharold⁠ JOIN JIM’S SPOOKY STUDIO PLUS CLUBYou can get access to Jim’s entire back catalog of Campfire and a TON of exclusive content with the Spooky Studio Plus Club. Go to https://⁠jimharold.com/plus⁠ and signup to support the show and get access to our MASSIVE library of content! MERCHGo to ⁠https://jimharold.com/merch⁠ to get your Jim Harold T’s, sweatshirts, mugs, hats and more!  BOOKSGet all SIX of Jim’s Campfire books here: https://jimharold.com/campfirebooks/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Next up on the Campfire is a newer listener. Sean is on the line. He listens on Spotify. We're so glad to have him on the show. And he said there's some strange things happening around his house and they may be of paranormal origin. And he's going to tell us all about it. Sean, welcome to the show from the great state of Kansas

and tell us what happened. Well, thank you. So about 20 years ago, we moved into a house very unassuming house, a nice neighborhood. Built in the 50s. And the first thing that I noticed about this house is the, there was a particular floorboard that would creak while it was leading into the bedroom from the main house. This portion of the house used to be a two-car garage that they attached to the house

to make a very, very large master bedroom. And this floorboard or this new construction portion, it took an adult to step on it to make this creek. So the children couldn't do it. We had a small dog, dog couldn't do it. And you could definitely tell that this creek was caused by pressure because it would be a different pitch as the pressure was applied and then released. So the first thing I noticed was, well, let me back that up a little bit.

In that bathroom, I always had like an uneasy feeling. And this is a new bathroom. So this is not even attached to the main part of the house. I always just had a weird feeling about this house. Nothing scary, just uneasy. So there was a couple of times where I was laying in bed. My wife was not home. And I heard the creek.

So I assume my wife was home. And I'd wait for her to come in the room, which never showed up. think of maybe she went in the bathroom, I might go check, and there would be nobody there. So, okay, you know, maybe the house was just settling, but it happened a few times. Didn't think a whole lot about it. And then several months later, all these events did not happen, you know, very, in the same time, you know, time frame. They were, they're spread out pretty far. Right.

So the next, the next odd thing, I came home from work and everybody is sick. I walk in the kitchen, put my keys in the bowl where I always put them, and come walking in the living room, hey, how are you guys doing? We don't feel well. Can you go to get us some pop or get us seven up or whatever? I said, sure, turn around, the keys are gone. I check my pockets, you know, look around. they always go in this bowl and the keys are just flat gone can't find them anywhere um

go get my spare keys go get the medicine uh come back look for the keys never did find those keys um even after we moved out of the house and we even took our appliances it was a rental home but we had to supply her own appliances so we even removed all the appliances those keys never did show back up never that that is weird because usually the part of that story is that they show up somewhere. Yep, never did. So that was a little odd. So I'm getting a little bit of a glare because I'm sitting in my car.

I'm actually at work. It's all right. So that was a little odd. Then maybe a year or so later, I used to load for UPS. So I'd have to get up very, very early. It's dark. And the first thing that happened that, that really started to make me think something odd was happening.

I walked into the living room and my recliner moved like someone got out of it. But we do have a small dog and we have a cat. So I assume, well, maybe it was just the dog, you know, getting out of the chair. Right. But when I went into the bedroom to tell my wife goodbye, the door was shut because I make a lot of noise. the dog was on the bed. Like, all right, well, then maybe it was the cat. So I go out to my car, opened up the front door,

the cat comes running in. And I'm like, all right, that's odd. Maybe the bedroom door was left open and the dog ran inside. Still not wanting to accept the fact that something weird is going on. Right. So several months later, maybe even a year or so later. I still working at UPS.

I wake up very, very early. And my wife's ex-husband is not the most mentally stable person. And we don't really worry about him a whole lot because he lives in a completely different state. He lives in Louisiana. But they were having a lot of back and forths going on between them. So there was a cause for concern that this guy might show up at any, you know, at any given time and, you know, something bad might happen. So it's very early in the morning. I wake up and when you come out of the kitchen, you walk into a dining area, living room all attached.

And then directly in front of you is a very large doorway that has a small hallway that leads to the back part of the house where the three bedrooms are that the kids sleep in. Yeah. And when I come walking out, I stop and there is what appears to be. a silhouette of a person that is partially obscured by the doorframe, like someone kind of looking around the doorframe. Right. And you're thinking a human, you're thinking a human person at this point, I'm guessing. I thought the ex-husband was in the house. So I stop and look at it, like, am I really seeing somebody in the house? And so I don't, I don't own any guns. So I just look at And it is definitely a shape there.

It's not moving either. So I'm like, okay, my imagination is getting away from me. But I did say, what the F are you doing in the house? And as soon as I said that, it kind of faded over to the side, like they kind of slipped back. I'm like, oh, no. So I grab a fireplace poker. And now I'm flipping on lights. I'm running through the house, you know, hollering and yelling, running into bedrooms,

waking up kids, scaring the heck out of those kids, got all these kids crying, checking closets, checking closets, checking the back part of the house, there is nobody in the house. And I know that I saw that figure, and that figure moved. You know, there was no car driving by, you know, it wasn't a trick of a headlight or anything. Because I stood there and stared at it for a good couple of seconds, making sure that my eyes were adjusting to the dark. Because the light switch is clear on the other side of the living room. You have to walk through the living room to actually flip the light on.

And so that was really odd. You know, I mean, now I'm kind of legitimately, you know, concerned of something strange going on in this house. Right. And a little side note, and I can't remember where this part took place. My oldest stepson always said that somebody lived in his closet. And he, okay, so he was prone to storymaking. So we were always like, well, okay, you heard us talk about somebody's thing.

Imagination. So, exactly. So at one point we took a picture of him. And in the background of the closet in the upper corner, there is a smudge in this picture that looks like a face. And, you know, the human brain always wants to make patterns. And I thought, well, surely that's what it is. But everybody saw a face. I'm like, you know, whatever, it is what it is.

Later down the road, I took that picture because I was going to show it to somebody else, and that smudge was not in the picture any longer. Oh, that's weird. So take that for what it's worth, because I've never heard of, you know, an apparation disappearing from a photo, but it was not there anymore. So what do you think about this? So what do you think it is? So what do you think is going on?

What do you think the haunting is? Do you have any theories on it? Well, okay, so here's why it scares me more than I think of would most people. I come from a Christian background. I am still a believer. So I do not believe in ghosts. I do believe in evil presences. I do believe in the fallen angels.

I do believe in demons. and I do believe that these manifestations are from something nefarious trying to lead you away from what the Bible says takes place after you pass away. There is no coming back. There's no being a ghost. You die. You go to judgment. You do not come back.

You don't communicate with the dead because it's not the dead. So I believe these things are designed to get you to think that, wait a minute, If I'm seeing a ghost of, you know, of, you know, Uncle Bill here, then the Bible can't be right. And if that leads you away from that, then that, then they have done their job. So I, I don't believe in peaceful entities. I just do not. So you think these are darker entities, sinister evil entities that have been visiting you and your family? I do.

And to. sorry, the glare. That's all right. And to some extent, I do believe that they have followed us to a new home, which is a different story. And I know we don't want to get involved in that. But I do think there's something going on in the new place. But it was a one-time event and really haven't had any experiences since. But the final experience in this household, we were moving out.

Most of our stuff was in boxes. And I heard what I assumed was a television or a radio plane in one of the kids' room. Yeah, they're still fairly young. So, you know, leaving a radio or TV on is not out of the realm of possibility. So I go walking back there. There's no television on. There's no TV on.

But I can still kind of hear it. We had a very big front yard where a lot of kids would congregate and wait for the school bus. So I thought, well, you know, maybe there's kids outside. you know, talking. So I kind of poke my head out there. There's no kids out there. But I can still hear this talking. And so I go in the back now.

I'm walking really, really slow. And right where the two hallways kind of intersect, it seemed to get loudest right there. And it was definitely two people having a back and forth conversation. It did sound like two young girls. but it wasn't loud enough for it be able to make out exactly what they were saying. But the people lived there before us, they had put speakers in the ceiling in the living room,

which was right around the corner. So the wires had to be run somewhere. So I was thinking maybe the older wiring was picking up an AM radio frequency and it was just kind of transmitting through vibrations through the wires. Right. And just I tried to listen, couldn't figure out what it was left that night i'm talking to my wife and i'm like hey the weirdest thing happened this morning um i was hearing a um would sound like a radio the same story i just told you

didn't really give any details but my oldest stepson comes heard the tell end of the um of the conversation he goes oh that's crazy did it sound like two little girls talking and i said yes it did and i had never I had never brought that up. Wow. That part of the conversation I'd been brought up. And he says, yeah, I hear that all the time. Oh, that's weird. That's weird.

Well, Sean, we do have to move on to another caller. But thank you so much for joining us and telling us your experience. We'd love to have you back on to hear what that other episode is. And very much appreciate you being a part of the show today and sharing your stories because without folks' experiences and stories, there is no campfire. Thanks again for being a part of this. the show. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate being able to share this. Welcome to the Camp Fire. I am Jim Harold. So glad to be with you once again. And we've got a

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Next up on the campfire is Leslie from Oregon. She's a new listener just heard about us on another podcast around Halloween time, and here she is, and we're so grateful. That's why, you know, I always am glad to be on a lot of different podcasts and because You never know who's listening, and as long as I've been doing this, there's still a lot of people have not heard about the campfire. So please help us spread the word and tell them about Jim Harold's campfire. And Leslie, glad you found us. You're going to tell us about a story that happened, and it sounds like it was potentially a sign. Tell us what happened.

Well, this happened quite a while ago. I was in college, and I was a single mom. My daughter was asleep, and it was late at night. and I was doing my homework. And all of a sudden, I felt against my cheek. I mean, if you did it on your hand, that's exactly what it felt like on my cheek. And I've been aware of the spirit world since I was a kid. So it didn't really scare me, but I knew somebody was there.

and I think I said something like, okay, I felt bad. I know you're there, but it's late. I'm tired. I have homework to do. Please leave me alone. And I finished my homework. I went to bed. And the next morning when I woke up, I opened my eyes and sat up.

And just as quickly as I sat up, I saw somebody at the end of my bed. and they went down to the floor. Hmm. And I thought, hmm. And I said, is you the same person that was here last night? And I crawled to the end of my bed and looked around to see if, you know, check there wasn't anybody on the floor. And that was the clearest visual experience I've ever had as far as in all the ghost stuff that I've done.

and it was a small, slim person with short blonde hair. I was trying to think, who could that be? So I got up and I think I talked to them a little bit like, hey, you know, you're the same person and what are you doing here and who are you? And I don't know, got my daughter ready for school and I went to school. And I can't remember now if it was one or two days later. I get a phone call from an old friend of mine, and she's hysterical. And I couldn't even understand what she was saying. I tell her, please, you know, slow down, tell me what's happening.

And she says, my mom's dead. And I said, what happened? What do you mean your mom's dead? And she tells me that her mom's friends had called her and that they had been trying to get hold of her mom for a couple of days. And her mom's house was locked up. They couldn't get in. She didn't answer the door.

She didn't answer her phone. Her car was there. So they called my friend thinking that she would have the key to her mom's house. And she didn't. But she went up there and they decided to call the police. And the police broke in. And they found her mom lying on her bed. She had just laid down and passed away.

peacefully. It had ended up that she had been there for three days. And her mom is a small, slender woman with short blonde hair. Oh, my. So I knew right away.

That's who it was. Do you think, was there a specific reason you think that she came and showed you? I've thought about that, and I think it's because she knew, that I was open to it. We had,

my friend I had met in college, and when I had talked to her about, I did, I started out with weed boards and seances in elementary school, and I had been talking to her about that, and she got very excited, and she says, I have a Ouija board.

It's at my mom's house. So we rushed up to her mom's house, and I remember going in and her going out saying, hey, mom, I'm here, and I'm going to get the Ouji board. board. I have to find it because Leslie and she, you know, I could hear her telling her oh, Leslie did this and Leslie did that.

So I think her mom knew that I was open to it and I think she was just playing around, you know, she was there by herself for three days. So I think she was out having fun and she knew I was open to it. Interesting, interesting.

Well, Leslie, I'm so glad that you found our show and glad that you shared the Campfire story. Thank you for sharing it and stay spooky. Thank you. Stay spooky. Have you ever rearranged your furniture and discovered the carpet underneath looks brand new, while the rest of it looks, well, not so new? It's time for a carpet upgrade.

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Now, I got schooled on that pronunciation when I first started this show because I was saying, Kelsey, I was saying Nevada. Like I was Thurston Howell, the third from Gilligan's Island, from Nevada. And I got schooled and he said, it's not Nevada. It's Nevada. So there you go, Nevada. And Kelsey is here. She's been listening since 2019. Thanks to her husband, Alex.

So Alex, way to go. Stay spooky. And thank you for sharing the show with Kelsey. And see, folks, that's how it works. That's how we share the love. You tell a friend, you tell a family member, you tell a spouse, they become a listener. They become a storyteller. And it just propagates out that way.

But that's the mathematics. That's a calculus. I'm not a math wizard. But we need you to tell people about the show. So be like Alex and be like Kelsey. And we're so glad to have her with us today. Kelsey, I know you have a story. and it is concerning a lucid dream.

Thank you for joining us and tell us what happened. Thank you. So I actually didn't know that I was capable of lucid dreaming until a couple years ago. One of my friends, I was explaining a dream to her that anytime I have a nightmare, I typically will say, you know what, I don't like the direction that this dream is going. I'm going to go to my grandma's house. And so once I told her that, she was like, oh, you need to explore that a little bit more. but that's kind of more just backstores cushion.

So with this story, it started off directly at my grandma's house, which is odd. Like I said, normally my dreams that are bad dreams start at my grandma. So I thought this was weird. And I'm sitting, I'm basically at my grandma's house. I'm not a child. I'm pretty much my current age. Everybody around me is their current age. So all of my cousins, I grew up, you know, all of our holidays, everything like that going on at my grandma's house.

And so she passed away in 2002, 2003. And so when she passed, kind of everybody separated, everybody moved to different states, that kind of stuff. So we haven't had family, thanksgivings or Christmases or anything like that like we used to. So back into this dream, I'm at my grandma's. I see a bunch of people there. I see my cousins. I see aunts and uncles. I'm like, okay, this is interesting.

Where is this going? And so I see my aunt, Barbara, who passed away about five years ago. And she's there and she's cooking something, which is odd because she was never in the kitchen. And I was like, oh, okay, well, let me just go say hi to her. And so I walked up to her and I said, oh, I called her Barbie. I said, oh, I'm Barbie. I'm like, I miss you so much. Like, I love you.

I miss you. And she just gives me a side hug. And she's like, okay, honey, I love you, miss you too. And kind of pushes me. And I was like, okay, that's weird. And then I was like, okay, this isn't like, the dream just wasn't really going anywhere. So I'm like, let me just jump ahead. And so the next thing I know, I'm in, my grandma's house was two-story.

So I'm in the second story. It's nighttime. And it's me and my cousins, all adults, and we're all having a sleepover. I'm like, this is so strange. Like, what is happening here? And I'm talking to my cousins. I'm like, okay, well, we don't have any blankets or anything. We don't have anything to, like, you know, do anything.

And out of nowhere, my grandma comes around the corner. And I'm sorry if I start crying. because it's probably going to happen. And she comes around the corner with a stack of blankets. And I was, I just immediately stood up and I looked at her and I ran to her across the room. And I just fell to my knees and I grabbed her legs and I could feel her jeans. Like I knew it was her. Like it was, she was visiting me.

Like I absolutely 100% was aware that this is what was happening. And I hadn't had any visitations from her, you know, before she, you know, after she passed, nothing like that. And so, and this whole time, I've kind of been like, oh, am I going to ever experience her, you know, know that she's around. I mean, I know she's around in places, but just I needed like a concrete, she's visiting me. So I'm grabbing her legs and I'm like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, and I'm just sobbing. And I feel her, she had long natural nails in like a perfect mauve color every time she'd paint them herself and she was grabbing my shirt. I could feel her like her nails digging into me,

getting me to stand up. And so I finally stood up and I come face to face with her and I just grabbed her face and I said, I love you so much and I am so happy that you're here. And sorry. No, it's okay. It's okay. And she just looked at me and she said, I love you. She's like, I miss you. I miss everybody in the family. She's like, but I'm here. And I just wanted to say that I love you and I miss you too. And I just, I couldn't stop sobbing and I couldn't stop touching her. And just like, I just fully was like, oh my gosh, this is her and I need her. And I looked over her shoulder and down the hall, well, there wasn't really a hallway, but there was a hallway in this dream. and she's I see two people in the distance and it kind of looks like a stairway and I looked at them and I've never met these two people in my life but I knew that they were her parents.

Oh wow. I could just tell by the like I've seen pictures of them of course. Sure. And by what they were wearing, she was from middle of nowhere, Oklahoma. And so they looked like they were on a farm essentially. in the pictures that I've seen of them, that's basically what they were wearing. And I just looked at her and I looked and I was like, okay, those are her parents. And she said, I have to go now.

And I said, okay. And I, you know, kind of stood there like, I didn't want to let her go. I just kept holding on to her and touching like she's always wore this one sweater that had like Mickey and Minnie on it. And that basically to what she was wearing. It was like that tarry cloth, you know, material. And so I just, you know, touched it. And I was just like, okay, she has to go. She has to go.

But I'm okay now. And in that moment, as soon as she said she had to go, I just said, okay, she gave me a kiss on my forehead. And that was it. And I woke up, sat straight up in bed and I was sobbing. And Alex, my husband was like, what's wrong? What's wrong? Our dogs were freaking out. And I was so happy that I just felt like she came to see me.

And that's all I needed. And that's my story. I love it. I love it. So, I mean, I know it makes you sad on one hand. But overall, it sounds like it was a very positive experience. It was great. It was fantastic. I was just so happy. And I immediately called my mom. And she was like, wait, grandma visited you. And then she told more family. And everybody was like, oh, my gosh. Like nobody, as far as I'm aware, nobody else has had. had any experience like that with her. But yeah, I was very, very blessed and honored to have her visit. And I've said this many times over the year, so I'm repeating myself. But, oh, well, it's my show I can do it. But I really do believe there's something about the dream state.

Yeah, we've all had, my example is we go to the grocery store. We're in the produce department that night. We have, you know, a dream about flying on a head of lettuce. We have those nonsense dreams, right? But then I believe there's another kind of dream. And I do think there's something about our dream state that makes us more open to communication with the other side. And yeah, I totally believe people are. I remember when I was a kid.

My mom saying she had a dream of my grandfather who had passed away just, you know, a year or two before. And this is, gosh, this is before you were born. And she said, you know, it was more real than real. Was that your experience? This was more real than real. Oh, absolutely. Because I hear that. I hear that.

Yeah. Yeah. It felt like she was in the room with me. Like, if I opened my eyes, I wouldn't have been surprised if she's standing right in front of me. That's great. And I think it gives a lot of hope to a lot of people. Kelsey, thank you so much for sharing this very personal story. Of course, thanks to Alex.

Stay spooky. And way to go, Alex. And just, Just great. Kelsey, thank you so much for sharing this story. Stay safe and stay spooky. Thank you, Jim. Stay spooky. Angels are among us, or so it would seem Michael is back on the show and has a story about his mother now. You might remember some time ago Michael was on the show and his mom, who has passed, unfortunately, may have actually sent a text. You are my sunshine to her husband.

after her passing. And her wisdom just continues. Michael has been kind enough to share a clip with us, a video clip of his mom telling a story about the idea of maybe being visited by an angel. Michael, welcome back to the show. And as I said before, thank you for sharing something so personal because I know this could be really difficult. It could be something difficult to share. Yeah, you're not wrong, Jim. And I'm just thankful to have the opportunity to share it with people.

And what had put the thought in my head was there were a couple shows last year in September and November that were similar to this one. There were listeners who were in the hospital and somebody visited them. But everybody in the hospital said, no, there was nobody here. Right. And it made me recall, I have a video of mom telling us this, a very similar story from when she was. a young child. And she, as I understand it, to set up the clip a little bit, and it, remember, folks, she was very ill at the time of this recording. So Michael, again, thank you for sharing this very personal video.

But she was explaining she was very, very ill. You told me before we hit record that essentially her parents were afraid they might lose her. And she had gone to a series of doctors, and now she was in this hospital, and they were trying to nurse her back. to good health. And that's kind of where the clip picks up. Is there anything you want to add to give us some more context to it? Not too much that I can think of. She was less than nine years old. I don't know how old she was. And she had been very sick for a very long time. Her parents were confused and afraid she might die. She had walking pneumonia. And this would have been, she was born in 1960, so it would have been mid-60s.

So medical care obviously isn't what we had today. So in the clip that just before the clip that Jim's going to show is she's telling the lead-up to this saying she was very sick, she was hospitalized, her parents were there with her in the hospital, and the doctors did not know how to treat her. They couldn't get her well. They couldn't get her healthy. And there were multiple people in the room. So with that, we'll pick up the clip, and here it is. I know you told me, Grandma, you were so sick. Grandma was worried and prayed for you.

Yeah. Near a priest or somebody did. There was a priest that came in the room, and he came in, and no longer had he walked out, then he walked out the door. and my mom walked right back out the door and she's like, well, where did that priest go? And she said, there wasn't a priest. And she said, well, I know I just saw a father.

And he's like, the person was like, no. And yeah, she had seen someone. And it was God. Someone to come and help you. God in touching me. Yeah. God's taking care of us. He does. As usual. Mm-hmm.

We can't take care of ourselves. That's right. But God does. Words of wisdom. Words of wisdom from your mother. Absolutely, they were. So you believe, and I think she believed and her family believed, that she had been pretty much touched by an angel to quote that old TV show. Yeah, when she had told me the story once before when she wasn't quite as sick. And she said, grandma said the man came into the room.

The father, as grandma called him, grandma was Catholic at the time. And the father came in the room and he actually prayed for mom, which mom didn't mention. But he prayed for mom in the room. And then he walked out the door and left. And grandma was like, I need to go. I need to go thank that man. They was so kind of him. So she ran out of the room to the nurse station and they said, no, ma'am, there wasn't a priest that came in this room.

So grandma firmly believed that God came and healed my mom that day. And I'm glad he did. For me, at least, I wouldn't be here. Well, I think it's a great story. And that's, and think about this. That's the second time your mom has, I'm sure, touched many, many people. I think it gives people comfort who have lost their loved ones when they see stories like this. I hope so, you know, sick as she was.

And this is two weeks before she passed away. And she's still thinking, you know, God helps us. God heals us. God loves us. That's something to take with you. Indeed it is. Michael, thank you for sharing this story on the campfire. Thank you, Jim.

Thank you. Kay is on the line from Illinois. She's been listening for a few years on Spotify, and we are so glad. And she's going to tell us well about what she calls a mild-mannered ghost. So Kay, welcome to the show. Thanks for listening. Tell us about this mild-mannered ghost. Hi there.

So I'm just going to jump right into it. I don't really know. This is more of a story that I can't just explain away. It's not one of those like terrifying keep you up at night stories. I just things keep happening in my house and I can't explain them. So the first story, we had an end table that was a glass top. It had a shelf more towards the bottom that you could barely fit anything under. We had ordered a package, opened it.

It was for a birthday party. So we closed the box back up, put it under that shelf for safekeeping until the party. My husband is a vapor. And normal day, it was like, Later in the afternoon, he had used his vape a few times at that point in the day. And it disappeared. Couldn't find it anywhere. At this point, our son wasn't even crawling, let alone walking, grabbing things to hide them.

And we looked everywhere. We turned the house upside down. Finally, as you can guess, we checked the box, and it was under the shelf in a closed box in our living room. And I don't understand. So my husband kind of explained it away, and he's had experiences himself, but he's also a skeptic. So if it can be explained away, that's what he's going to do. Sure. I had, like I mentioned, I had a baby.

My baby and I, my dog and my cat were all napping on the couch, and this is a separate. This is the next story, by the way. Sleeping on the couch, I woke up, feed the baby, and out of nowhere, his car seat. It was one of those infant seats that can rock. Just started like full extension rocking like six feet away from me. Didn't like that. I called my husband. Yeah. I called my husband. He said, you know, I'm sure the cat just jumped and you didn't see her. And I'm like, no, nope, that's not what happened. So this next one, it sounds silly, but I have a part two to it. So I'm very particular about my when I'm cooking, like where my stick of butter goes.

Because like I said, we have a cat. Our dog passed away a couple months ago. Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. She was a good girl. I don't like leaving sticks of butter out because I'm scared of animal hair is going to get in it or something. So I'm very particular about putting it away. Right.

So I'm cooking. I go to get the butter out and it's not where I always keep it. And I'm like, okay, whatever, I'll just open another package. go to the, we have a cabinet that we use as a pantry. I go to the cabinet to get some other stuff and the butter's in there. And I'm like, okay, that's weird. My husband's like, well, you know, you probably just spaced out and put it in there. And I'm like, okay, that makes sense. Well, then just like a week later, I am again in the kitchen cooking and I go to get garlic powder and onion powder out of my drawer of spices. And they're both missing. And I'm like, what is, I always

put them here. My husband's like, yeah, you've been spacing out in the kitchen. Like, that's weird. And I'm like, why don't you check the cabinet, you know, where the butter had been? And he opened it and sitting right there is the garlic powder. He looks all over, same spot, no onion powder. And I'm like, all right, I'll make do whatever. And then he closes the cabinet door. I start cooking. And I say, oh, can you get the, we were, I needed some beans out of that same cabinet. He opens it up and the onion powder is right there where the garlic powder was. It's, I can't explain it. He wasn't there the first time.

And he even checked. And the same thing. So, so, um, do you think something's playing tricks on you, playful ghosts, so to speak? I think so. And he's said out loud a ton of times, like trying to explain it away. But then things started happening to him too. Um, he was putting dishes away. this and the common denominator here is the kitchen.

He was putting things away in the kitchen and straws and a lid to a cup flew off the counter and hit the cabinets on the totally opposite end of the kitchen. Whoa. Yeah, he was putting books, baby books away, and one flew out right back at him. And then I just have two more little short ones. Go ahead. I was telling my friends about the kitchen. campfire just a couple weeks ago and telling them how I'm going to be on here. And they were like,

oh, that's weird that things have been going missing for you guys. Like, we lost our drill and we cannot find it. And we were over at their house in their garage. And I'm in Illinois. They have a garage heater. Thank God. And they were saying how it's weird that it's been happening to us. It just happened to them. They cannot find it anywhere. And we go to walk to the door and sitting right there is the drill that they've been looking for for weeks. And it happened when we were there. And then the last thing that scared me the most, my husband was gone at a game night at his friend's house. I'm like a Saturday night. And I was home alone.

My kids were asleep. I decided to go to bed. At this point, it's like one in the morning. I'm dead asleep. And if you poke your head out of my bedroom door, you can see down into the kitchen. I'm woken up in the middle of the night. And it sounds like somebody's having a party in my kitchen. Like it sounds like someone's

Yeah It sounds like someone's making music with pots and pans Like running around my kitchen banging on pots and pans with some spoons It's loud And I like sat up and thought I was sleeping I was definitely not sleeping

It continued And unless you really look out my door You can't see And so where I'm at I'm staying here right now actually You can't see but you can very clearly hear it was loud. And I figured maybe my husband came home while I was sleeping and I didn't hear him.

So I shouted, babe, and not only did no one answer, but the bang stopped. And that scared me. I'm thinking like weird home intruder or something. So I called my husband and he is like, well, no, I was just about to leave. I'm going to speed home. and I said, well, I'm going to try to get a video of this because this is weird. And I need proof. Otherwise, people are going to think I'm crazy.

And so as soon as I get off the phone with him, it started again. And when I tell you it was loud, it was literally if you go into your kitchen and bang pots and pans with some big metal spoons and run around while you're doing it, that's what it sounded like. And I didn't, I don't know how my kids didn't wake up. And I got up. I started to creep towards my door, and I'm thinking I'm just going to peek out and point my phone down the hallway and see if there's anything that shows up on my camera. And as soon as I peek my head out the door, it stopped. No idea what's going on here. And my husband finally sees I'm not crazy since it's happened to him.

And it's been getting more frequent to lately. So have you pinpointed who or what you think this? may be. Was it someone that lived there before that may be past, or do you, I mean, do you have any theory? My friend, my best friend and I, she's probably going to end up listening to this as well. My best friend and I think. You can give her a shout out by first name if you want to. That's up to you. Hi, Amy. Hi, Amy. Stay spooky. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Kay. No, it's okay. We both kind of think that it's a poltergeist. My house isn't brand new by any means, but it's not. For my area, it's not really old either.

It was built in the 70s, so it's not a super old house. But we both kind of think it's a poltergeist. Well, please keep us up to date. If anything else happens, please let us know we'd be interested in following it. And good luck I'm figuring this up because I could see where it might be a little distressing, even though it seems to be kind of mild manner. But even if it's throwing things across the kitchen, you know, it's. Yeah.

So, yeah. All right. Thank you so much. I'm a huge fan. Thank you. Thank you. Kay, stay spooky. Stay spooky.

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Clover from Oregon is on the line, but first I'm going to tell on myself. So when we do these calls, we set them up. And I was rushing into the studio today because I was doing some editing earlier. And I put on my sweater. So anyway, I'm talking to Clover and we're getting ready to record and I'm looking at my picture and I'm like, something's wrong. Turns I have my sweater on inside out. And I didn't think that was good. So I muted my video, went to the other room, put my shirt on correctly.

And here we go. So I appreciate Clover's patience. And by the way, it's 10 a.m. here. Where Clover's at, it's 7 a.m. So I have no excuse. Clover, thank you for joining us once again. I know this is a follow-up, actually, to a previous story that we had. And you were going to do a little recap if people didn't catch your first one,

and then we'll launch into the second piece. Thank you for your patience, and thank you for joining us again and tell us your story. Yeah, I guess it could be the Reader's Digest version, kind of dating myself. Me too. I'm right there with you. So basically, it's another sense that I have, kind of like breathing. Like at some point, you can learn to control your breathing a little bit, but it just, it happens in the background, you know. So for me, it's what kind of kicks this off is if I'll, I call it psychometry because that kind of explains it the best.

But if I sleep with an object of some kind, I'll start picking up on people who have passed away associated with that certain thing. Right. I remember that from your last call. Yeah. Sometimes it can happen to if I visit a haunted location and I'm touching things. Like I can bring things home. Like demons, that could be a subject for another show.

I tend to call them the spider virus. Oh, my. Story for another day. And it's a lot like, you know, it's stranger things. A lot of people watch stranger things and how Max can go through Henry's memories. Right. That's a lot like how these visions look a lot like that.

I'll walk with a person through, you know, what they want me to see. And I'm not sure why I have it, but I'm pretty sure it's because I have autism. I came across the telepathy tapes, and I felt really seen in that. Like, I don't have that gift necessarily of telepathy or whatever, but just being a paranormal, spooky autistic person

kind of resonated with me. But one thing that a lot of people who have passed on, and I don't like to say death because I don't, I never see death as being the end for anybody. It's just a continuation of things. But besides the life review that I see often or people's last moments that they'll show me, I'll often see the light and what the light is.

And so I thought I'd come and talk about that. Oh, yes, please do. Tell us. And I made a little chart, I don't know if you can really see it. Close if you can move it to your right and up a little bit. Up a little bit? Yeah. And yeah, that's right there.

Perfect. Yeah. So I made this little chart to kind of help explain it. So we have like this 2D life experience that we're all going through right now. And kind of in the middle is like this wormhole that I kind of call the in between. And that's kind of, you know, right after you die, you're kind of chilling with your, soul family or ancestors. For everyone, it looks different.

I'm not really sure why, but that's kind of how it is. And then from there, you could kind of go different things. There's, oh, geez, here we go. There's like the other. By the way, if you're listening, Clover is holding up a chart. You can go ahead and hold it up like you were. I just wanted to tell people, we have a lot of people who just listen. So I want to explain you're holding up a chart and explaining it.

But go ahead, please go. Yeah. So there's kind of three different places I see people go after, you know, the in-between. There's like the source, people call God or whatever, whatever your take is on that. There's the light, which is pretty common. And then there's kind of like the other, which will probably blow people's minds with that and I'll sound really crazy. So I'm not going to talk about that. But the light is pretty common. And when I go through the light with other people, it's basically them decided. to be, I guess reincarnation is the best way to describe it. You're just being born again into another human body.

And going through the light is just you're going through that birth experience. And what's really trippy is you retain for the first few years, usually, your memories of your most recent life that you just lived. That makes sense. We hear that a lot from kids talking about that sort of thing. Yep, and you come to terms with like grief and things like that. And it's weird to think about a baby being present and processing those things, but it's just kind of what I've always seen. So the light is basically you're just coming into another human body and going through that experience.

Very interesting indeed, very interesting indeed. And is this something that you feel grateful for having these abilities? I mean, some people would consider it a blessing, maybe some people not so much. maybe they wouldn't want to. How do you come down on it? Are you glad you have these abilities? I just don't know any other way of being. So it's really difficult to say. But I guess I've come to terms with it a lot now that I'm, you know, at midlife. Like I kind of embrace it. I'm kind of leaning into it. It's some people are really accepting of it. Like I was bullied a lot as a kid and some people get spooked out. Like how do you? do you know things about me without me telling you? Right.

You know, especially as a kid because you don't have a filter, you know. So a lot of times I would call them nicknames that their grandmother had called them. They're like, how did you know that? You know, things like that. I had some family members that were Catholic. And they were really upset about it because they felt like I was demon-possessed. I grew up with a lot of that shame I had to kind of unpack because there's a certain facet of being Catholic. I don't know a lot about it, but if you know things, you couldn't possibly

know. It's like one of the tiers of demon possession. So I had to deal with that, you know, as a kid and things. I believe there are people with great sensitivities who can pick up on things. I don't think there's any question about it. I think it's a very real thing. I think all of us have it maybe at some low level, but there's certainly people. It's kind of like I always use the the comparison. For example, I could take a basketball. I can throw it at a hoop. I may even look out and make one,

but I'm never going to be LeBron James. That's a great way to look at it. Yeah, so that's kind of look. I think all of us, and I think almost all humans, have had the experience if they picked up on something. I mean, one example I've heard before, and I think it's a great one. You can walk in a room, not know what's going on,

and there could be a couple of people there, and maybe they just had an argument. Now they're quiet and they're just doing what they were doing, but you could feel that energy. I think almost everybody has had that experience. It just sounds like you have it to like a hyper level, not saying that's a negative. You just have an enhanced sense of that. And thank you for sharing the information about your gift. And thank you for being on the program again, Clover. And thanks for having patience with my groginess this morning. I've been up since six. I've been I've been up since 630, so I don't really know what the deal is, but I think trying to do too many things at the same time.

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Todd from Arizona is on the line. He listens with his son, Alex. Alex, stay spooky and thank you for listening. And Todd has a story to share with us. This one is about, well, dare I say, a very haunted condo apparently. Todd, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for listening for all these years. Thank you for listening with your son.

I think that's so cool. I love to hear it and tell us what happened. Absolutely. This took place in Arizona in the mid-80s or so. I remember it was the summer between, I think, fifth and sixth grade, maybe six or seven. My parents had bought a new house, and the house we were in sold before the new house was completed being built. So in the interim during the summer, my dad had rented a place from his boss. He owned a condo out in Sun City.

Some City, Arizona is a retirement community. So we stayed there. We got in temporary arrangement regardless, and things started immediately, I guess you would say. We had a little teacup poodle at the time, and she would just go absolutely nuts every once in a while. But then we would notice, you know, cabinets being opened. the oven door would open and shut, and whenever the dog started going at, sometimes you would feel it. Just a sudden drop in temperature, the hair on your arms would go up.

And apparently it was just, this lady was just going about her business, after she was gone, is what we're assuming. There were magazines in the condo with the woman's name on it. I never did find out from my dad, but I don't know if she passed away there or what, but it wasn't a retirement community. So probably an elderly person's house. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it just seemed like she was going about her daily business, stuff opening and closing and things like that. Never, never, never, never any kind of malignant or, you know, scary vibe at all.

my brother and I thought it was fascinating I was into Dungeons and Dragons at the time and I just thought it was cool as heck but we did have to go out all these years I thought that my brother and I left we went to go stay with my grandparents and I thought it was because my mom was freaked out

but I talked to her to go on the show just to kind of refresh my diary and some things and she said no it was just because it was a retirement community and you guys technically weren't supposed to be living there anyway. It's, you know, 55 plus. So we were only there a couple of weeks, but I definitely got to experience it almost like, you know, if it passed through you or something, you know, that temperature drop and the chill. Yeah, and the dog going nuts, it was interesting. It was fascinating, but never really scary or anything. The worst thing that happened was that we were all

out. And my mom actually told me this one. This was after we left. She said they came back home and the water hose in the backyard was left on. And they hadn't done it. You know, it's all rocks in the backyard. There's nothing to water, Arizona. And yeah, apparently the hose just turned on and flooded the whole backyard. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, it was interesting. I didn't get the full story of how it came about, but it was definitely there, and she was doing her thing.

So do you think that that, I mean, obviously you had an interest in this sort of thing. You're a big fan of Dungeons and Dragons and things, but do you think that that increased like your interest in all of this, like why you listen to shows like Campfire? Oh, absolutely, yeah. You know, I mean, I'm pretty open-minded. I'm a rational guy, but I'm pretty open-minded. I've never had any other form of paranormal experience. That was it.

That's my one time. But, yeah, definitely contributed to it. So it's more of just a feeling of like she's here. She's not going to stop doing her routine or the things that she does because you're there. But on the other hand, she's not going to be mean or vile to her house guests. Right. She's not kicking us out either. Exactly. Right. Right. Interesting. Like peaceful coexistence. Right. But I mean, I do believe that happens. I do believe that, you know, maybe sometimes people love where they live so much or they made such an imprint on it that some part of them stays behind. I don't know. But it's certainly something I can buy into and I can believe. Todd, thank you very much. Also thank Alex. Alex, stay spooky. And Todd, you stay spooky.

too. Thank you very much, Jim. Stay spooky. Pleasure to be on. Thank you. I love to hear from our callers and listeners in the UK, and Haley is here from the United Kingdom. She's been listening for a few years. I seem to have a wire coming out of my head. I'll have to do something about that. It's not the first time, and it won't be the last. But nevertheless, Haley is here. That's the important thing. And she has a kind of scary story about, you know, she's resting one night, calm, and then this happened. Haley, tell us what happened. Yeah, very interesting indeed. Thanks for taking time.

Yeah, so this happened quite recently just at the start of January. So it's quite fresh in my mind. Me and my husband on New Year's Eve, we were traveling from the UK where we live to Thailand for a holiday. we were going over there for about three and a half weeks. We've been a couple of times before. We really loved Thailand, so we were super excited about this trip, mainly to escape the cold in the UK, you know, go and get some winter sun,

flying on New Year's Eve as well, so that's exciting. We probably took off from the UK just before midnight, so obviously there's a buzz in the air as well. And then we settle in for this long journey. it's probably about 12 to 13 hours of flying. We go via the Middle East and eventually we get to Thailand. It's early evening. Obviously we're exhausted, jet lagged just when I get some food and go to bed.

So we head out, we grab a bike to eat and then we go back to the hotel room just to chill. Go to bed pretty early. Just ready to rest, ready for a busy day, the next day, explore. So I'm not quite sure what time I woke up. But I wake up in the night and I wake up suddenly. Like I'm just wide awake with this overwhelming feeling of sort of panic. Not like a panic attack, not that extreme, mild panic and anxiety. And what I'm feeling is, where have they gone?

Where are they? Like they should be here and they've gone. So I look over, my husband is sleeping next to me and I think I even reached out my hand and touched his arm lightly. So I know that it's not my husband that's missing because he's there and I'm aware of that, that he's in the bed next to me. Somebody else who's meant to be with us in the room is missing.

So I'm panicking and I'm like, well, where have they gone? and where can they be? And at the same time, my inner voice, as quite often happens if you're getting in a bit of a panic, is trying to reassure me, you know. Sure. Trying to say, don't worry, it's fine. They're probably just in the other room. It's okay.

You'll find them. So just to set the scene, the hotel room has the bedroom where we're sleeping, and then a door through to a living area with a sofa. and the door's open. So this is on the right as I'm in the bed. And by this time I'm sitting up in the bed. And I'm sort of leaning, trying to look through the door to see if this person is in the living room.

You know, have they just got up and gone to sleep on the sofa maybe? It's not fully dark, even though it's the middle of the night. There's a little bit of ambient light because we're in the city. So there's always a bit of light. so I can just kind of half see the sofa. I'm like, okay, I'll just get up. They're probably on the sofa.

I'll go and find them. Everything will be fine. So I'm sitting up already. I pull back the covers and as I turn to get out of bed, I put my foot on the floor. So I'm sort of half out of bed. And a voice says to me in my head, clear as anything, Haley,

there's only two of you. And I was just like, okay. Oh, yeah, you're right. Oh, yeah, there is only two of us. Like, it's just me and my husband here. And I'm sort of sitting back and lying back and my heart rate's coming down.

The panic is easing because I'm like, oh yeah, there isn't anybody missing. I was mistaken. You know, everything's okay. And what I would say is this wasn't scary experience. So it's not like I was a nerve to the point where I couldn't then sleep. I think I probably, because of what I was exhausted, I probably went back to sleep quite

quickly because it's not like I saw a ghost or anything. It wasn't a present. It was a sort of a lack of a presence that was meant to be there is what I was feeling. Interesting. So it went back to sleep the rest of the night, you know, an eventful. and it's only in the morning when we're getting ready to go out that I happen to say to my husband you know the weirdest thing happened last night

and I explain it to him and I'm telling him you know it wasn't you because you were there and I even reached out and touched your arm I know that you were there and you were meant to be there I was like someone else is missing and he was like yeah that that is pretty weird and I think I had that feeling of like oh okay I'm not crazy.

Someone else agrees that that was a bit of a spooky thing that happened. And it was only as I was explaining it to my husband. And he was like, you know, what do you think that was? That I realized that the feeling that I was having in the night was one of like a missing child. Like the feeling that you have when you're responsible for somebody and you care for them. And oh no, where have they gone? Like they're missing from my sight. I don't know where they are that kind of feeling.

Like a maternal sort of concern. I need to find them. They should be here, almost as if there should have been a child sleeping between us and they'd got up in the night and wandered off. So me and my husband, we don't have children. We chose not to have a family that was never part of our plan. But over recent years I've had some quite bad health issues, which mean that I can't have children. So now that's completely off the table.

So I found it interesting from that point of view, that I had that feeling, that like maternal feeling as if a child had been there. Interesting. We have nephews and a niece, so I know that feeling of like, you know, caring for a child and worrying about them and looking after them, but I don't actually have a child myself. So that was a really unusual experience. But that was definitely the feeling that I had. Now, let me ask you this. At first, the way I took it was, is that there were multiple versions of you. Yes. In other words, you know, we get a lot of stories. around here about doppelgangers and, you know, there'll be one spouse in one room and they'll

hear somebody come in and it'll sound just like their significant other. But then their real husband or wife will walk in 20 minutes later and say, I was never here. No, we have those stories. We had a really great story from the very early days of a campfire Christmas story. And somebody saw a ghost walking down a staircase and the ghost said something like, was dressed in a tuxedo and said, oh, my love, what a mirror image we are. There's a lot of things suggesting in the stories that we get that things may not be as they seem and we may not be as they seem. Did you think that the others that they were referring to were different versions of Haley? Did that ever occur to you? I think what I thought actually was more a sort of alternate

timeline kind of situation. So similar by, but more like a parallel universe kind of thing. And that some, in one of those timelines, me and my husband do have a child. And that something about that moment, there was a crossing over where I was in the wrong timeline temporarily, or my mind was temporarily in the wrong space. face, yeah, that was what I sort of thought that it could potentially be. That's always something that I've been really open-minded about. You know, the paths that you take through life lead you in different directions, but that doesn't mean that the other path isn't still running.

Right. You know, I do think about that. I mean, I think that just if I had one take-home message from the years of doing these shows, There's an old quote out there, and I've used it many times from, I believe, a British scientist. And it was not only is the universe stranger than we understand, the universe is stranger than we can understand. And I think that all these things that we see are pointing to that. Like, you're only getting part of the picture. You're not understanding the whole picture.

And I think most people walk through their lives and, you know, they just, think a cigar is a cigar. But I think when it comes to our reality, I think there's a lot more going on that we don't get. Now, what that is? I don't know. I don't know, Haley. But I like that. I actually like that. And I appreciated that experience for bringing that to me. Do you know what I mean? Like, I like that feeling of I don't want to know it all. And I don't need an answer to what it was. It was just a kind of interesting, thought-provoking experience. Kind of a wink from the universe saying you're on to the right, you're on to the right track, Haley. You carry on. I like it. Haley, thank you for joining us from the UK. I appreciate it. And

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Well, she's been on the shows before she is back again and we're so glad Melissa from Montana up early this morning. I think we're recording this 8 a.m. her time, so we thank her very much. And Melissa's a nurse, and she's had some interesting experiences, and she's going to share some of them with us. Melissa, welcome back to the program. Thanks for getting up bright and early, and tell us what happened. Yeah. So I know a few times you have said you wish more healthcare workers would call in about their stories with people seeing loved ones at the end of life. And I think most, the reason why you don't hear about it as much as you would think is usually

patients are confused towards the end. So we don't know whether to hold a lot of stock into whether it's true or not. But I had two times in my career where the patient was completely alert and oriented to person, place, and time. So I don't know if you've ever been in the hospital, most nurses will go in during their rounds, and they'll ask you, like, what's your name, what's your birthday? Sure. Why you hear? They might even go further and say, like, who's the president? But a lot of times before a patient gets untunded and can't talk anymore, they'll get a little wacky. they'll say, oh, I'm at home and Reagan's still the president and stuff like that. So then when they say, oh, that their mother's in the room or they say they're not all

or whatever, you can't really say it's for real. But we believe it's real. Most of us do believe it's real. But we don't, we can't really say that it's true because there's other stuff they're saying that doesn't quite line up. Right. Yeah. So one time, I'd say this patient is. probably in their late 80s.

They weren't actively dying at the moment, but they weren't going to make it out of the hospital where we're just trying to take care of the things to keep her comfortable and until things got more serious. But I went to go walk in her room and I heard her talking to somebody. So I assumed once I knocked and went in there, there was going to be somebody else there and nobody else was there. So I said, oh, who you were talking to? She's like, oh, nobody.

So I was like, okay, that's interesting. So what about my business? Did what I had to do and got out of the room and stayed out there and was just kind of listened and she's like, mom, are you still there? And it's just like, oh, good. And then just went about like chit-chat and again talking about whatever they were going to talk about. Wow.

And so she was definitely hiding it. from me. Which also, that that shows that she was cognizant though, you know, that obfuscating that kind of tells me that she kind of knew what was going on and she might think, oh, if I tell this nurse that I'm talking to my dead mother, she's going to think, you know, whatever she's going to think. So she hit it. So that right there tells you that she was kind of with it. Yeah. So I think that else like, like, gives it more credit. I think. Um, her son worked in the hospital. So, you know, everyone in there knows like once people start talking to their dead loved ones are seeing, you know, past animals and stuff, are like, okay, things are getting real.

So discussed it with him. And he was like, oh, wow, you know, so it wasn't like he's like, oh, yeah, my mom's a medium. She talks, you know what I mean? Like, you had never heard of this before either that, you know, she didn't have abilities or at least that he was going to say. So it's like, well, maybe she's just psyched. I don't know her. But I think she was just seeing somebody towards Zand. And then another one was a younger person that we don't normally get in the hospital.

It would be like 50s, 60s. She was only there because she was having random chest pains where chest flutter films. So they put her on the monitor and stuck her in the hospital so we could see if we could catch something in real time. So she wasn't knowing we were worried about like they were, she wasn't going to pass anytime soon. Right. You know, somebody wouldn't be thinking any of this stuff on.

But I go into her room and she's so excited. She's like, I just saw my best friend. I haven't seen her in so long. I had such a great talk. And I'm so excited that she came to visit me. And, you know, we're in and out of rooms all the time.

So people can come in and visit. Right. You thought literally her friend came to visit. You literally your friend. Physically. Yeah. So she's super excited telling me about her best friends and her son walks in the room and overhears us. And he's like, Mom, Susie or whatever the name has been dead for 10 years. And then she's like, oh, like backtracking. She's like, oh, maybe I'm confused.

Maybe I dreamt that, you know, like trying to figure out how to like make. Right. backtrack. For a sudden, feel better about her telling me this. So then we get out of the room. He's like, what's going on? Why would she be doing this? You know, and I'm like, I don't know.

You know, sure of vitals are good. I don't think she's sick right now or anything, but then I instantly ran back to all the other nurses and our telemonitor people and be like, we need to watch this. A little bit closer because she's seeing dead people. So we might need to watch her closer than we were thinking. And, you know, she could have had a cardiac event at home and passed out. And maybe, you know, how they say, like, people who have your death experiences.

Right. And maybe. But I don't know. I don't remember getting that. But, you know, no one witnessed it. She could have came to. And she knew she was having heart stuff. Right.

on. Right. You know, that could have happened too. But those were the few times where the person told me, you know, like they would answer all the other questions. They knew who they were and they knew the date and who was president. They weren't confused at all. But then we're trying to hide that they were seen. So did they both end up passing?

I don't. I'm sure that the older lady did at some point. mom, I can't remember. I don't think the other one did. I think she made it out of the hospital. Right. But maybe she was close. Maybe she was close, you know.

I really believe this. I think people have visitations from loved ones. We've had a lot of these lately different things come in. And I did, I don't know if you saw it, but on the paranormal podcast, one of my other free podcasts, I did an interview with hospice nurse Julie. Yeah. Yeah. And folks, I don't know. I highly, that's the most popular YouTube video we've ever done.

I think it's sitting in about 89,000 views so far. And that's just in, you know, for us, that's a lot. It's been in about a month. But I highly recommend you watch that, folks. It's very enlightening. And I believe this is true. And I also, another thing I want to say to you and all the healthcare professionals out there, thank you for what you do, because we're so relying on you guys and our lives.

Literally our lives are in our hands. hands and all, I think most of the people watching or listening at some point in their life, their life has probably been saved by a health care professional. I know I could say that when I was a baby. I was a preemie. And this is back, you know, in the Stone Age when being a preemie was, you know, maybe almost a death sentence when they didn't have all the stuff they have now. But thanks to the doctors and the nurses and so forth, I'm here today. So I guess my point is is just thank you health care workers and thank you, Melissa. But I believe it's real.

And it's interesting what you said. It's very telling that you really believe this because when that woman said, I saw my dead, well, she didn't say it, but you deduced that it was a dead friend. You went back and said, let's be careful on this one. Let's watch her a little more closely, perhaps. That tells me you fully feel that this is a sign of passing when people start talking to dead people. Yeah. And one of the reasons why we always go in and ask those random questions and people get irritated all the time, you know, if it's the day.

I know who the president is. People start getting sick. That's one of the first things to go. Like if you get sepsis or stroke or you have an abnormal reaction to drugs. But usually deathbed stuff is dead loved ones, pets. When someone has a bad reaction to a drug, they're like, I got buzz. There's bugs everywhere. Or if they come in on high on something, they're like saying, the FBI is trying to kill me.

You know, they're not saying grandma's in the corner. Right. You know what I mean? So it's like it seems like it's very deathbed centrist. And because these people are confused, they don't know they're dying usually. They're not. These alert and oriented ones, yeah, they, they knew that or the older lady knew she wasn't going to make it out. But I think it gives them more credit, you know, because if you were just confused for other stuff, why are we going to be seeing these?

Good point. Or these other reasons, too, for, you know, reactions to drugs or, you know, strokes or whatever. Well, Melissa, thank you for what you do. Thank you for sharing your story today on the campfire. Can I have one more thing? Sure do. Please do. Because I've heard people say, like, I wish I got more signs or stuff.

And I've seen a lot of people die. I've had a lot of people die in my own life and stuff. And I really do think it's really hard for you to get a sign and for people to come through while you're in the depths of grief. Right. So I just really want to encourage people that it's okay to go on and be happy because I'll hear people. They'll be in a happy moment, having fun, and then they'll get a sign, and then they'll get depressed or sad about it, like that it's not right, that they're, you know, enjoying their life. But I think they can't come through until you get there. It just seems like that in my new experience.

Obviously, no signs behind that at all. Well, I think that makes a lot of sense. You know, we miss our loved ones. We grieve for our loved ones. But I think, you know, I think almost universally, they wouldn't want us to not live and not, you know, life has to go on. I mean, and when my time comes for my family, life will have to go on. It's just, it's a very tough thing. But I just think we just have to keep going. We have to keep going. But still, while remembering those who have gone on. Melissa, thank you again for what you do. Thank you for sharing your story today on the campfire. Yeah, thank you. We have a return caller.

Rosella is on the line from my home state of Ohio, the Buckeye State, and she's going to tell us about a very special pet. Rosella, welcome back to the show, and please tell us what happened. Thank you. I actually had a pet, Janie, that I had adopted. I adopted her and another rabbit, Sophie, at the same time, so rescuing them from pretty much a child who was going away. to college and the parents didn't want it anymore. And I felt really sorry, I'm very sorry for her.

As in a person who's so, like, I guess, just love pets. I feel even more than humans because that that pet loyalty that they give to us, I just couldn't imagine giving a pet away. So I wanted to be the best kind of, I guess, bunny mama you could be, even though that sounds silly. But I had adopted her and taken her home. And basically, we really connected fast. She was an instant love of my life. And basically she would play. She was very curious. She would watch me all the time.

She wanted to be held. She would just give you these cute little snuggies that other bunnies would not do because I had other rabbits too. But she was just that very special bunny. She had a velvet coat as well. And when you would pet her, it just felt like velvet because of her breed. she was such a sweet sweet sweetheart and it was kind of funny because um when i would go away she really didn't like anybody else feeding her or picking her up or touching her she would kind of like gur and growl at

everybody and everybody would say that she was so mean and i was like i don't understand because she's just the sweetest like bunny in the world to me um i think she just wanted mama like where's mama um but we just had a very special bond and whenever i felt down or anything or had a bad day, she'd be the one that I would be picking up and getting those little bunny hugs and snugs. Well, sadly, it was about a year ago almost now last April. My daughter, I was cleaning basically the cages out when my daughter held the bunnies and she had a friend that was over. She was kind of showing off for a friend a little bit. And then this feeling came over me and I was like thinking, put the bunny back. Something's going to happen. And she was still.

standing in an unusual place that we would never stand with the bunny in the kitchen over tile. And I started to panic, but I didn't want to, like, sound like I was, you know, aggressive or anything to you in front of the other, the friend thinking, oh, your mom's like, you know, horrible to you or something, but his kids are so dramatic. And she was about, like, probably a 14 back then. And I just had this really bad feeling, and I'm like, put the bunny back in her cage, go put the bunny back, you really need to, and it was too late. Janie had jumped out of her arms and hit the ground, really hard.

I didn't even know because she was standing kind of near our closet. If she even had hit the closet on the way down or the doorknob on the closet the way down, it was so freakishly fast and just awful, very terrible. So I ran and he scooped her up immediately, and my husband and I roughly, to the vet and I could tell that the vet was trying but he had no experiences with this kind of trauma I felt like it was not really over and it wasn't going to end well and I used to like just call her like little almond eyes um to she had little almond eyes and then my little runway bunny because of her coat and she used to be it was a joke like of our house basically that

she was a runway bunny and a little model because of her velvet coat and just always pictured her in a keep walking down like the New York one way and I was I was teasing her on the way trying to shirt and shirt is okay everything's okay she just had these eyes that would just like stare through you like she knew like what you were thinking you couldn't fool her she was so smart and intelligent and it was really so hard taking her home because I knew that it wouldn't probably end up well. And we tried to give her the medicine that the vet said and we put her in the cage and I just knew that she would not, she would not last very much longer. And, you know, pet her and said goodbye. We went to bed for the night. I just knew when we woke up she would not be there in the

morning. And I was right. It was really awful and tragic and so sudden and fast. I mean, she was an older bunny. She was 11, but she was healthier than my other three rabbits that were younger. So it was just shocking in that manner. But, you know, I asked her for a sign a night later feeling so much guilt that I could have said something. I could have taken her from my daughter or I could have done this or I should have done that when that feeling came on. I should have acted more. And, I felt so much guilt. And basically, I asked her for a sign that she was in heaven. And I went to bed that night. It was pretty much one night later. And I went to bed. And I had this dream that she was flying at me, which in my mind, it just looked like it had to be heaven because it was a white background,

like so bright white, lit up, like a light that we couldn't produce as human beings white. And she was flying in with this cape on that I always used to joke about that she was the runway bunny in New York and it looked exactly as I always joked with my family this purple cape with like gold lining around it and she was just it's hard to describe a rabbit smiling because I've never really seen it physically on a rabbit before and I had like four rabbits before this but she was smiling in this dream and she was just beaming ear to ear, and she was so happy to see me. Her paws were out,

and she was just coming at me, and she just embraced me around my neck with this huge hug and snuggled me like she did in life. And I just was like, oh, my baby, I miss you so much, and I told her how much I love her, and I'm sorry, and I just hated to have her go,

but she said, Mommy, I'm okay. am in heaven. And it was very quick. She said that. She looked at me. She let go. And it was like telepathic basically how I heard her. I could see her smiling. But it was like a telepathic talking. And I can't explain it any other way. It was odd. But she looked at me like it's time to go. And I just nodded in my dream. And she, She flew off, basically, in my mind, back to heaven is what it seemed. I woke up and I was crying.

I didn't know I was crying until I woke up. And my husband was lying right beside me. And I, you know, he's like, what's wrong? So I told him and he said, I'm glad that you got the relief that you truly needed. That is really good to know that she's okay. I knew she was going to be okay. And, I mean, basically, that's my story. it was a very tragic thing.

And people sometimes ask me, well, how's Janie? And she was my baby. And I would just post pictures all the time on Facebook. Like, here's Janie. We're going to the vet. She's so healthy. She's like 11 years old now.

She's late 10. You know, she's aging. She's healthier than my other, like, young bunnies. And it was always like kind of a thing. Like, how's Janie? How's Runway Bunny? Aw. I just miss her.

I'm like, it's hard. without her. I mean, when I'd be working out sometimes, like, in the family room and stuff, and these, like, kind of workouts that you do, like, with a chair. And it is this funny, but in your living room and stuff or a family room with nobody around? And I'd have her running around. And she just stare at me, like, what are you doing? You humans are weird. Well, she's absolutely right. Humans are weird, but pets are great. And I do believe there is this connection that continues on. I don't think there's any question about that. And, and And, you know, I think that that bond remains.

That bond remains. I really do believe that. I think there is something to the whole rainbow bridge idea. And I've heard near-death experiences, people said that their pets and their dogs and their cats and so forth were waiting for them. So you're one-way model. She's there. Many, many years from now, you'll be reunited. Rosella, thank you so much for being a part of the campfire and stay spooky.

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