Just As Well, The Women's Health Podcast - Get Fit, Don’t Quit: Kelsey Wells’ No Fail Formula for Mind-Body Strength

Episode Date: January 26, 2021

If you’re a little slow off the mark - or not as fired up as usual about your workouts this year - well, that’s not exactly surprising, all things considered. But you don’t need us to tell you t...hat regular exercise - what with all it’s mood-elevating, energy-stabilising powers is one thing that will help get you through this turbo bleak midwinter, like little else. So, how do you jumpstart a fitness regimen that’s going to support you - in mind and body - through this wild time and beyond? In today’s episode we’ve got one of the world’s most loved, lauded and refreshingly real trainers answering this question. Kelsey Wells rose to prominence in fitness circles as a power trainer on the Kayla Itsines-founded SWEAT app, and continues to share her practical yet compassionate approach to strength-based training with her near three million-strong community of followers. However, she’s been on a real journey where exercise is concerned - growing up, she never saw herself falling for workouts, and it was only after a spell of poor mental health drove her to begin taking care of her body that she truly fell in love with fitness. In today’s episode, Kelsey discusses her journey from exercise refusenik to global fitness star, as well as sharing the fitness and mindset fundamentals you need to start - or reinvigorate - a fitness journey. She answers: how do you get started; when should you train; for how long?; what mix of workouts will get you strong without adding too much bulk; what gym equipment is actually worth it - and, above all, how do you keep going? Join Kelsey on Instagram: @kelseywells Join Morgan on Instagram: @morganfargo Join Women’s Health UK on Instagram: @womenshealthuk Topics  - How Kelsey Wells fell in love with fitness - Why exercise can help boost mental health - Kelsey's mind-body strength philosophy - How to begin or reinvigorate a fitness journey, and stay motivated! Like what you’re hearing? We'd love if you could rate and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, as it really helps other people find the show. Also, remember to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, so you’ll never miss an episode.  Got a goal in mind? Shoot us a message on Instagram putting ‘Going for Goal’ at the start of your message and our experts could be helping you achieve your health goal in an upcoming episode. Alternatively, you can email us: womenshealth@womenshealthmag.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:15 loved, lauded and refreshingly real trainers answering this very question. Hello, this is going for goal, the women's health podcast and I'm your host, Roshinane. The trainer in question is Kelsey Wells, grows to prominence in fitness circles as power trainer on the Kayla Ed Sinez founded Sweat app and now shares her practical yet compassionate approach to strength-based training with her near 3 million strong community of followers. Why we thought she'd be so perfect to come on the pod and share her approach with you all right now, when motivation might be harder to come by and over half of you have told us you're really struggling to go for your goals, is that she's been on a real journey where her exercise is concerned. Growing up, she never saw herself as being one of those fit and healthy types,
Starting point is 00:01:58 And it was only after a spell of poor mental health drove her to begin taking care of her body that she truly fell in love with fitness. And the rest is history. In today's episode, as well as bringing women's health's fitness writer Morgan Fargo up to speed on that journey, she shares the workout and mindset fundamentals you need to start or reinvigorate a fitness journey. She answers the questions that women's health editors are asked time and again about getting started, when you should train for how long,
Starting point is 00:02:26 what mix of workouts will make you strong without adding too much bulk, what gym equipment is actually worth it and how do you keep going? So lots of questions but the ethos that runs through her answers is so simple. Don't stress the details,
Starting point is 00:02:41 just make the time, show up and, crucially, remember it's not something you can fail because, as Kelsey says, for fitness to make over your life, you don't have to make your life all about fitness. Kelsey,
Starting point is 00:02:56 Welcome to the pod. It is so nice to have you here. How are you doing? Thank you. I'm wonderful. You know, I am so stoked to be on here. So thank you for having me. Oh my gosh, of course. What's life been like for you recently with everything going on? It's been good. You know, myself and my husband and my son are healthy and, you know, we didn't, you know, lose our jobs or lose a loved one. And so I feel extremely fortunate given the global circumstances. So yeah, we're just trying to make the most of things and look for the bright sides and enjoy the time together that we can have. 100%. It has just been such a wild year of spending so much more time at home than we ever have before. And like you say, spending that time with your family, if you can, is so, so
Starting point is 00:03:40 fortunate. Yeah. One of the biggest things about you is your incredible journey to finding fitness and becoming the person you are today. Can you tell me a little bit about what that looked like and how you found it and now what it means to you. Of course. You know, I kind of grew up thinking that there were two types of people, like normal people, like myself, and then those weird, healthy people who ran on holidays and ate a lot of vegetables. And I just, I didn't, I had no understanding of what fitness and health really meant and what
Starting point is 00:04:17 nutrition was and was for. And, you know, I was in large part, the best. byproduct of diet culture conditioning, which, you know, everyone in our generation and the one prior and even still are kind of being inundated with inadvertently your whole life, right? So I thought of exercise as the ultimate chore. I did it as I solely viewed it as a vehicle tied to my aesthetics or, you know, a punishment if I ate, quote, too much. It was always negative. And it was always something that I did to change my body because I was unhappy. And, you know, nutrition, I thought that healthy eating meant, unfortunately, meant starving myself or doing crazy fat diets. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:05:07 I just, I didn't know, you know. And I was completely sedentary. I grew up dancing and then I had to quit my junior year of high school. And after that, there was really no form of exercise or fitness that I enjoyed. And so I was pretty sedentary in my life until I was 24 and I had my son. And at that point, I've spoken about this and I speak about it quite openly because I feel it's very important to normalize. But I was struggling with very severe postnatal anxiety and some depression. And there's a beautiful side to becoming a mom. And that's all very true.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And you hear a lot about that, but you don't often hear about how deeply hard and painful and lonely that that can be and how normal that is and how it's okay if you're facing that right so i was struggling and it was a couple months postpartum at a appointment where i filled out a mental health questionnaire and my doctor's very kindly and gently like told me i wasn't okay and i knew that but hearing that um from the health care professional kind of shakes you and my midwife suggested you know do i exercise like she asked if i exercise regularly and i was like no, but no offense, what does that have to do with anything? Like, I need help. And, you know, we explored some various options, but she thought exercising could help. And so it was like for the
Starting point is 00:06:29 first time in my life, I had started, you know, quote, my fitness journey or a new fitness plan many times to give up like about one to three days later, right? But for the first time in my life, I was exercising out of a place to help myself. I was desperate to help myself instead of of out of hate for myself. And I know now looking back that that is the catalyst to what uncovered everything for me and to the epiphany of understanding what fitness is for. And now as a fitness professional, like my, I'm just on a huge mission to help women empower themselves. But, you know, the byline of that for me is to help everyone, but especially women understand that fitness is not for aesthetics. Fitness is about your.
Starting point is 00:07:16 health. And our health is not just our physical health. It's mental and emotional well-being as well. And this was a huge, huge revelation to me. I didn't understand that at all. And so I had, I was not healthy physically, but I was much more unhealthy with my internal dialogue, how I viewed myself, how I spoke to myself, how I treated myself. And in other ways. And way before my body composition started to change visually, I started to feel better. On the one hand, I was able to have a little bit more energy. That massive weight on my chest that I woke up with every morning was eased just a little. I mean, it wasn't magic. It wasn't like flipping a switch, but it was a tool that I could use to help myself heal. And it was for the first time as an adult woman, going from this space where I did not recognize
Starting point is 00:08:12 myself in the mirror and there was nothing wrong with how I looked, but there was everything wrong with how I viewed myself. And to a woman where my internal dialogue was incessantly, constantly negative, waking up to the fact that I could change those things and that I could really help myself was a lifeline. And I was really lonely. I didn't really confide in anyone, my husband, a little bit, but I was scared of adding pressure onto him. And unfortunately, I kept a lot of things to myself. And so using learning how to use fitness as a tool for my own health and self-empowerment saved my life in a very literal way. And so now it's like I just want to help as many women as possible understand. Like I just want to be like you guys. Guess what? Like this is the magic.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Like this, it doesn't have to be what you think. Yeah. I mean, in a nutshell, I began exercising about a year later. I started a social media account because I wanted to forge friendships. And I wanted to be that voice and that support for women who were where I had been or where I was at and help each other. I wanted a connection. I wanted a place to belong. I was struggling with other personal things at the time. And I needed a safe space. And that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And I've always really kept it for myself. I shortly after began, probably actually before I started the social media, began studying to become a certified personal trainer. And I wasn't planning on changing my career at the time. I just was falling in love with fitness. I realized the other career things that I thought I was passionate about. It's like when you find what you really are, other things fall away. And so it was my outlet, my hobby, and I just started educating myself because I felt like I had such a huge basis on the non-physical scientific side of it.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And I wanted to understand how is my body working? What's actually happening? And I wanted to be able to safely continue to train and all those things. So I started my studies, became a professional. started this Instagram and I guess the rest of its history looking back. It's incredible to hear how honest and open you were because it's so easy for me to go online and see a picture of your transformation and obviously there has been a visual transformation but it's clearly the mental side of it that just is the powerful powerful stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Does that help you when you have women coming to you saying, I want to change my body? Are you able to go to that place with them and say, okay, but it's a lot of it. it is about your mind first. Absolutely. You know, I think I, I mean, I am right there with you. Like, we are all in this together. I truly, truly believe that. And I feel like maybe the reason, or one of the reasons that I'm able to connect with women, so many women, and help other women connect with each other is not because I'm any better off. It's because I get it. I've been there. And I really feel like it's about helping each other out and helping each other up. And, you know, my whole thing is like helping women remember how to live from a space of self-love.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Because that's what we're made from. Like, we are not born hating our bodies. And if you're at a place in your life, especially your adult life, where you think that your internal voice is one of hate for yourself, it's not your fault. But that's not true. And unfortunately, self-love is you're right. right of every human on the planet. But it's also our responsibility to cultivate and come back to that if we arrive at a place in life where we've forgotten how. And to me, that catalyst was fitness. And I believe so deeply just from what I've seen in my professional career and my personal life
Starting point is 00:11:55 and those that I love are, our health is so important. And it's just not separate. Like your physical body is not separate from, you know, what's in your head and what's in your heart. And so they work together and affect each other. And so I think I'm still on that journey. It's not like you check a box. It's like, oh, I love myself. I'm great now. You know, ha, ha, I've arrived.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It's like, no, I'm always doing that work to live from a space of positivity and gratitude for my body, for my life, for myself. And the longer you do that, the more natural it becomes. And I feel like the more you come back to yourself. And so vulnerability and being open. about my truth and my path as it evolves and looking back, that's allowed me to connect. And I think vulnerability breeds connection. And we might be from different corners of the world or different walks of life, religions, whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But as women and as humans, we have so much in common. And it's those things that connect us. And so it's terrifying to be vulnerable and open up as still is hard for me sometimes. but that magic of like true connection and support and love is is why I do it. Like that's what it's about. If I can help one woman out of the dark places that I've been, you know, that's, that's what it's that's what it is for me. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You've actually just reminded me of this quote that I love that said life is about connection and community and everything else is just extra. And when I think about it and I think about what you've created, I mean, I think it's your authenticity that make people drawn to you, that have people be drawn to you, because if I see a trainer and I think, oh, not only are they including me, they see us as the same, you just feel so much more empowered as someone at home in your living room. It's wild. I've got chills listening to your story, honestly. You know what? When you say that, it's like, it took me a while to understand and to believe this in myself, but I really feel like one of my favorite things about what I get to do
Starting point is 00:14:00 and see, I write these programs and I create the best tools possible from like an actually science standpoint. Like I truly feel like this is the best to maximize your time and effort spent training and I'll see someone. And nine out of ten women are beginning for the wrong reasons because they don't really understand their why yet. Everyone's like, what's your why? And I don't think you can you can really know that in the beginning or really fully understand it. So most women start because I want to change how they look. And there's nothing wrong with that. Like that's, if that's where you are, it's okay. But every single time I watch as someone begins, especially if they're weight training for the first time and they're scared to death.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And it's like, how do I do it? Well, you just do it. And you push yourself and you do it and you get into the gym where you use equipment you've never used before. And they start to get stronger. and the I've watched them go from self-criticism to confidence. And that confidence that you build in your training translates automatically into your life. Fitness doesn't have to be your thing. Like it doesn't, you don't need to spend hours a day training. You really shouldn't unless you're like an Olympian or, you know, that is your profession. But you need to move your body and you need to be active to take care of yourself and to take care of your health.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And I promise you that when you do, and if you're, you're mindful about the reasons you're doing it, it will transform your life. It will help you when you love yourself, when you build that foundation of self-love, which you can do through fitness, it just enables you to better do whatever it is that you are called to do. Like all of us have immense purpose in this life. I truly believe that. No one is more important or better than another. It is like we are all called to different things. We all have things that move us and speak to us. and our life paths are incredibly unique and vibrant and caring for yourself just allows you to find yours and to live and to fulfill whatever it is that is your purpose.
Starting point is 00:16:03 You know, so it's not about, again, being better than anyone. It's about empowering ourselves and then we empower each other. Empowered women, empower women. It's such a beautiful, like, poignant way to put it, I think. A hundred percent. And I think what you said about sometimes feeling nervous to go into the weight area, because I remember when I first started going to the weights area, I just thought every man in there was watching me and he was doing it wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And you just feel so self-conscious and you have to go in a couple times and find your feet. And this actually is something we see, you know, at women's health, we're seeing what people are searching for all the time. And some of the most common searches around fitness are the things that we need to put to someone like you who is an expert who's walked to walk and is talking to talk. Okay. So if, for example, someone wanted to get stronger and has some equipment at home, like some dumbbells, how would you suggest they go around building their strength?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Building your strength. You need to follow a program that's been written by a fitness professional that is geared towards your goals. I think it is so, women don't give themselves enough credit for creating the time for movement. If you are prioritizing your well-being and your health and you are creating space in your 24 hours of the day to exercise, you do not need to be worrying about what to do in that time. Right. Like if you have goals, if you want to build strength and you're prioritizing the time to do that, be proud of yourself. But the last thing you do is stress about in my overtraining,
Starting point is 00:17:40 in my under-training, what muscle group splits, what's progressive overload, like all of those things. If you're not a fitness professional, you shouldn't need to know that, right? Like, choose a program that has been created and done all. I've done all the work for you, right? Like when I think of my programs, it's like, okay, if she's making 20 minutes or 50 minutes of time in the day, how can I help her maximize that and reach her goals? I've done the work for you. So be proud of yourself that you're putting in the effort and follow a program that is geared towards that. Because if it's not your profession, you shouldn't need to worry about it, you know? I love that. That is the best.
Starting point is 00:18:14 to that question possible. I completely agree. If someone was worried that lifting weights would make them bulky, which I understand is a genuine concern for a lot of people, especially when you're surrounded by lots of images of bulkier men in the gym, how would you answer that as a personal trainer and fitness expert? Of course. First of all, it's, I get it because I used to think in these patterns, right? But the truth is, the woman that you might think of your head and think are bulky, that is intentional. That is a sport. Some would even consider an art.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And that takes incredible dedication, consistency, and time specifically training to gain muscle. You are not going to walk in the gym and pick up weights and accidentally bulk up like that. That is something that, I mean, takes a lot of dedication and eating a very specific way to complement your very specific training. so it's not it honestly just shouldn't be a concern and I do want to prep like I want to like you know put on the end of that weight training is such a phenomenal option for every fitness especially for women like I'm so proud to be part of the dialogue hoping to shift these old you know ways of thinking in these views that women absolutely belong in the weight section that it doesn't yield a certain look right weight training it's about strengthening yourself it's about uncovering how
Starting point is 00:19:39 strong you already are. It's about taking care of your health. Weight training is one the only ways you can improve your bone density. It helps strengthen your posterior chain, which is going to help alleviate or prevent knee issues, back issues, neck issues. It's such a great form of fitness. And it's looking that way is just not a relevant fear, really. How long we mentioned earlier that you've made programs and plans for people if they've got 20 minutes, if they've got 50 minutes, there's different options. But how long? long would a strength training session be in an ideal situation? Yeah, I think I do again want to kind of take it to a more macro level and say that the most important thing is that you're exercising
Starting point is 00:20:20 consistently in your life, whatever style works best for you. I think the ideal length of a session is the length that you can fit into your current life and schedule that doesn't completely overwhelm you. To be honest, like my, I don't think there's any need for a training program to ever be more than an hour. My power program, which is my gym-based program, that takes about 45 to 50 minutes, including your warm-up and cool down. And if you're training intentionally, and if you're using certain techniques and training styles and exercises and doing them in the right way, you don't need to go for hours. Like, you just don't need to. And I won't get into all the exercise science, but I don't think training for hours a day that just is going to lead to overtraining almost all the
Starting point is 00:21:05 time and more injuries, right? So I think I wouldn't go over that. And then if you have less time than that, it's okay too. Like, I don't want you to feel like, oh, I can't make progress if we don't have an hour a day. That's absolutely not true. You, I have power at home, which takes 35 to 40 minutes, powers your equipment is even less. So depending on the style of training, where you're training, what equipment you're using, what modalities of fitness are involved in that training, you can make progress in a very little amount of time.
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Starting point is 00:22:27 Please play responsibly. You mentioned Power Zero equipment, which is fascinating because it's a form of strength training that doesn't require you to have any kit. can you build strength at home without equipment? You absolutely can. It's different. Yeah, to be honest, it's different. If your goal is to build muscle mass,
Starting point is 00:22:46 the best way to do that is through weight lifting, right? And through hypertreating technically, which is what power is based on. You can absolutely build strength at home, though. For example, I think people underestimate the power of your body weight, and that's what powers your equipment is based off of. Doing a push-up, that takes immense strength. and it's a simple exercise, it's a common exercise, but it is not an easy exercise.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And then the variations of push-ups that you can do, there's so many different ways to use your own body weight and when you have correct form. And you do that, you can absolutely build and gain strength at home. Amazing. Because I know so many people, when gyms shut this year or their studios shut and they lost access to equipment, it was a real moment of confusion about what they should be doing to keep going towards their goals on shore. If you do have weights at home or you're looking to, you're looking to, to invest in say some dumbbells or a kettlebell. What are the weight that you should be looking at in terms of how heavy they are? Oh, you know, it's really going to be individual. So with weight training, all of my programming, but really any hypertrophy based training in general, you're going to want to use the heaviest weight possible with which you can complete all reps in your given sets with correct
Starting point is 00:23:59 form. So I know that sounds like a lot, but for example, if I'm wanting you to do a set of 12 bicep curls and and you pick up some weights and you do 12 and you could have easily done three to five more, maybe go a little bit heavier. If you need to do a set of 12 and you get to eight and you really can't go anymore, a little bit lighter. And it takes some playing with at first, but then you kind of find your area. And then that's how you also know like when it's time to move up, right?
Starting point is 00:24:24 Maybe, you know, in a few months time, the weights that you started with are now easy at 12. And so you're going to push yourself a little bit more. So it's very different. And that's why I think if you're going to invest, in equipment to be used at home in the home environment, I would very greatly recommend resistance bands, the open-ended kind, not with handles,
Starting point is 00:24:43 just because of the most versatile. And you can really control your resistance just by where you're gripping it. And also it helps you, if you're getting into weight training, not only does it not take up any space, it doesn't weigh anything, right? So it's very easy to transport, to store,
Starting point is 00:25:00 but if you're looking into learning how to do more than body weight stuff, learning how to do a lot of the lifts and the movements with resistance bands first before you're using weights can really help your body understand those patterns of movement and start firing and you can build a lot of strength there before you get into the weights. So it's, they're a great, great option. Those resistance bands you just mentioned, the long, they're almost like ribbons of elastic. I find that I use them so much at the beginning of lockdown. And now that I've got some weights, now I use them for my activation exercises.
Starting point is 00:25:33 So they keep being so useful in every part of fitness, which is incredible. And they're much cheaper. Yeah. Which is also a great win. Which is also a big win. In terms of the best time of day to be doing a strength workout, is there a particular time? Should people, no. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:49 You know, I mean, to be honest, the best time of day to train is the time of day that you can do it, that you can consistently fit it into your schedule. It truly, I mean, unless you are a very specific type of athlete, training a specific way for a specific goal, it does not matter. If you're making the time to exercise, you should be damn proud of yourself and do not stress on whether it's in the morning or at night. It's when you can do it. And yeah, be proud of that effort. Does that go the same for whether you should be eating before a strength workout? Yeah. If you're going to do it morning or evening. Yeah. You know, and people will argue this all day long, right? There's so many different opinions and
Starting point is 00:26:28 views, it truly doesn't matter. And I know some people might not like that answer, but don't stress. Do not stress. It's sick with it. Stick with it in the way that it works best for you. And yeah. It can be such a vicious cycle in that sense of trying to get everything perfect. And by the time you've got it perfect, you don't have time to work out. And people overcomplicate their fitness way too much, I think. I mean, it's, and that's when I see so many women getting overwhelmed where they say, oh, I quote, fell off. And it's like, first of all, you can't fall. offer you can't fail your fitness journey because if your fitness journey is about your health, if you're alive, you're on it. You literally cannot fail. And when you understand that,
Starting point is 00:27:07 it frees you from this mindset of like, it is not a task to be completed. It's not a sprint, but it's definitely not a marathon either. Like this is not a race. Fitness should literally be looked at and viewed as a tool that can complement and enhance your life. And if you take a break for a month or a week or however long, don't feel bad about it. Where are you right now? What are you? can do today, one simple thing you can do today to care for your health. When you start to feel overwhelmed, just simplify. Move your body, do it out of gratitude for your body, first and foremost, eat in a way that is going to help you feel your best, fuel your body so you have energy, and really, really, like, back off and simplify it when you're feeling overwhelmed. I think that's one of the biggest
Starting point is 00:27:48 hangups. And I think it just comes with forgetting what it's really all about in the first place. I think keeping that bigger picture in mind, like you say, that this is a journey that you can, cannot fail is such a powerful mindset. It's true. To keep you going. Yeah, absolutely. So we also asked women's health Instagram followers, some questions that they would like to ask you. And we had so many responses. But a couple of the ones that stuck out were there were three themes that really came across in pretty much all the questions. The first one, which I think you are possibly the queen to answer, is how do you stay consistently motivated when life gets in the way? because life does. Absolutely it does and I absolutely don't. And you never will. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:34 that's there's kind of two things I want to point out regarding motivation. I used to kind of say in interviews, motivation is not real. And that's not true. But the only real motivation, the only lasting motivation is self-motivation. You can look at pictures, you can read a quote, whatever. That's great. I do that stuff. I use those tools. But at the end of the day, it has to come from you and how. So it's like, okay, great. Well, how do I get that through action? Action precedes the motivation, right? It's not about waiting, sitting around and waiting until you have the time or the energy. You'll never have the time. It's not about having the time. It's about making the time. And how do you get yourself to make the time? The hard truth is we prioritize the things in
Starting point is 00:29:16 our life that matter most to us. And unfortunately, we get scrolling mindlessly and we've wasted 15 minutes on social media, not saying it's always a waste, but you could have taken those 15 minutes and moved your body. So it's about being mindful and exercising action, like exercising your, you know, choice as a human being that I'm going to do this, even though I don't feel like it. And the more often you do that, the more natural it becomes. And then the more motivated you are because you understand all the benefits for you. So it's about the consistency is what matters. And that's going to come through doing it and doing it and doing it even and especially when you don't feel motivated. And that's going to create that real motivation that comes from
Starting point is 00:29:56 you. You've just answered the second question, which is about how to stay consistent. Oh, there you go. You do it anyway. It's like we brush our teeth and it's like you enjoy or look forward to brush your teeth. I mean, I don't know, maybe people do, but you just do it because you know you have to take care for yourself. Like it's important. And that's the same thing with our health and fitness journey. It's like we just do things. I, there are most days where I'm really excited to work out because it's my time. You know, it's like in the safe space in the day. I'm so busy and it's like, oh, I love it. But there's so many days also where I don't want to do it, but I do it anyway. So it's just about getting to that space. Absolutely. And then the third thing
Starting point is 00:30:32 that we actually found came up quite a lot was people were interested in if your training or nutrition changes depending on where you are in your cycle. Yeah, that's a great question. For me personally, there's probably one day of the month that it does and that's just so. So the answer is no. I don't train how I'm or I don't change how I'm training depending on the time of the month or where I'm in my cycle. However, I usually have one or two days a month where I have really heavy cramping and it's very uncomfortable. And I have found personally some women need to rest during that time. And it's really individual. Like only you know what's best for your body.
Starting point is 00:31:07 But I have found for me personally that when I exercise through that, it actually helps alleviate a lot of those symptoms. So I don't do heavy lifting, but I will either do my power session with lighter weights or I will walk. Love that. And walking is one of those things. I think people sometimes forget can be a very easy. accessible way to still get moving without putting such a toll. I think walking is a super huge secret weapon. It's very easy on your body. It's not, you know, doing any harm to your joints.
Starting point is 00:31:36 You can do it. Like, it's the most, there's more longevity in walking than any other form of fitness, right? And it definitely counts. That's huge. On a day that you don't have a time or just aren't into it, take a walk. And it's huge. Like, count it for sure. Walking is great. Absolutely. takes a two-hour walk every day and calls me. That's amazing. Dang, I'm proud. Yeah, she loves it. She loves it.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And then finally, I think the thing that I am personally most interested in is what are you shooting for in 2021? What are your big goals or projects that are getting you up and getting you excited? I think my biggest goal for 2021 is to be present and live from a space of authenticity and self-love and that's that's my number one goal in life right to continually be doing that i think we've kind of all seen that you can plan so you're blue in the face but then sometimes life happens right so that said i have um huge hopes and am so excited to be able to travel again and hopefully get back to london as soon as possible but i miss more than anything else this year i've really missed
Starting point is 00:32:46 the live event connecting with you know my community in person and that energy that energy that that is created when you're working out, you know, in a space with other women. It's just incredible. So I'm so excited to get back to be able to doing that. I, of course, will be working on my power programming. I have extensions coming for my programs and working hard on that. So, yeah, some other things I can't really talk about yet. But it'll be a good, good year, no matter how it shifts.
Starting point is 00:33:15 That's kind of how I'm thinking these days. I love that. It sounds like you're just going to continue to smash it. Probably just smattering of it. Well, thank you, Kelsey so much for taking the time. It's been a real, real pleasure and honor to speak to you and hear all about your journey. And I'm so sure our listeners think the same. Well, honestly, I was so honored to be on the pod. I love it. And I'm a big fan of you guys. And it's always a podcast for my favorite, like, avenue because I feel like this genuine conversation
Starting point is 00:33:45 is, you know, the best way to talk about those stuff. So thank you again. So much wisdom in there. I hope you found it as useful as I did. I listened to that on like a dark Wednesday morning and I actually, yeah, I feel ready to give it some later with my workout. So thank you, Kelsey and thank you, Morgan. You've been listening to Going for Goal. As ever, if you want to comment on anything that we've raised in the show, get in touch, all the details of how are in the show notes. And remember, if you've got a goal in mind, let us know and we could be helping you get there in an upcoming episode. That's all from us this week, but we'll be back next Tuesday. Bye for now. And take care of us.
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