KGCI: Real Estate on Air - 8 Ways to Nurture Real Estate Leads in a Non-Salesy Way

Episode Date: August 22, 2025

Friday Focus is your weekly mini-series from KGCI Real Estate On Air—a deep dive into one theme, broken into tactical, easy-to-implement episodes. Every Friday and Saturday, we unpack the s...trategies, scripts, and systems agents use to win more business—without the fluff.Catch every episode in the series to get the full picture, and put these moves into play by Monday.SummaryDiscover the secrets to building a thriving real estate business by nurturing leads in a genuine, non-salesy way. This episode provides eight powerful and actionable strategies that transform cold contacts into warm relationships, earning their trust and positioning you as their go-to expert. Learn how to consistently provide value, engage authentically, and create a steady stream of referrals without ever having to make a hard sell.Bullet Point TakeawaysThe "Give, Give, Get" Mentality: Learn to shift your mindset from "What can I get from this lead?" to "How can I provide value?" This episode emphasizes a "give, give, get" approach, where you consistently offer valuable content, market insights, and helpful advice without any expectation of an immediate return.Be the Local Expert, Not the Salesperson: Position yourself as the ultimate authority on your local market. Share hyper-local content about neighborhood events, local businesses, and community news. This makes you a valuable resource, not just a real estate agent, and keeps you top-of-mind when a lead is ready to take action.Master the Art of the "Check-In": Discover how to move beyond a typical "Just checking in" message to a meaningful check-in. The episode shares strategies for personalized outreach that is based on your relationship with the lead, such as sending a personalized video message, sharing an article you think they'd find interesting, or simply asking them how they are doing.Leverage Technology for Authentic Nurturing: Learn to use your CRM and automation tools to enhance your nurturing efforts, not replace them. Use technology to remind you of important dates, segment your contacts, and track your interactions. This allows you to stay organized and ensure your follow-ups are personalized and timely.The Power of the Phone Call: In a digital-first world, a real phone call is a powerful differentiator. The episode highlights the importance of picking up the phone to have a genuine conversation with your leads. This builds rapport, strengthens your connection, and shows that you are a real person who cares.Topics:Nurture Real Estate LeadsNon-Salesy Lead GenerationReal Estate Lead NurturingBuilding Realtor RelationshipsReal Estate Marketing TipsCall-to-ActionReady to build a business that thrives on relationships? Listen to the full episode on your favorite podcast platform and start nurturing your leads in a non-salesy way today! Ready for more? Subscribe to KGCI Real Estate On Air and grab the Always Free Real Estate On Air Mobile App for iPhone and Android. Inside, you’ll find our complete archive, 24/7 stream, and every Friday Focus mini-series—ready when you are.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 clarity, strategy, and step-by-step moves. Here's what you need to know from this week's Friday focus on KGCI, real estate on air. Today we're going to talk through my nurture strategy for what to do after these leads come to my orbit. Okay, of course, and I'm daily. On a daily basis, these people are going to get reminded that I exist through my Instagram stories, which with the Five Pillars Nation, we are doing the challenge through the end of this year of three stories a day, three posts a week, which is a lovely way to stay top of mind, especially because my profile itself says Shelby Johnson with the pin Lexington, Kentucky realtor. So even if I've never spoken to these people who I met at
Starting point is 00:00:41 CrossFit or whatever about real estate, every time I ping pop up, they are reminded subconsciously that I am your real estate homie, right? Welcome to the agent Goldmine, the only podcast in the world specifically for real estate agents who are stuck at five transactions a year to help them get to Plus. Your host, Ali Garcet and Shelby Johnson, two expe icon agents, each do over 40 transactions a year and interview others who are crushing it. In this podcast, you'll receive the knowledge to help you scale your business using systems and processes with our interviews and monologues twice a week. If you want to be a part of our community, reach out. Welcome to the show. Okay, gold miners. Last time we talked about lead generation in a brand new city. I went through
Starting point is 00:01:27 step by step, what I am going to do here in Lexington to go from knowing no one to bringing leads into my orbit, right? The whole intent was to generate the new attention, the eyeballs to get them to look at me. And then this week, what we are doing is we're talking about lead nurture. So as you guys probably know, just because you get attention, just because people are like, oh, Ellie exists. I saw one YouTube video about her talking to sellers. That does not mean that they're ready to either buy, sell, or sign with you. So it's a lot of this is about nurturing them over time. So that way, when they are ready, they only think of you. They're like, Ali is the girl. When I think real estate, I think Ali Gar said. So that is the goal, right? So this week,
Starting point is 00:02:16 we nurture. I am only going to talk about things outside of the traditional check-ins, like calls and text check-ins, mostly just because I have not fleshed out my own system of how, like the frequency I want to do with this. I think, Ali, you have a pretty good fleshed out system for that, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. We'll go with yes. We're going to go with, I have my shit together.
Starting point is 00:02:39 It's okay. Everything, everything could always improve. That's so true. But I think, and I do think we talked about it a while ago, but maybe that's, maybe that's what we do after this, where we'll go through all of my nurture stuff. And if you guys want, let us know, if you want also the Allie's version. of the calls, the text, the frequency in which to follow up over time and the reasons for the outreach. So yeah, today we're going to talk through my nurture strategy for what to do after these
Starting point is 00:03:10 leads come to my orbit. Okay, of course, and I'm daily. On a daily basis, these people are going to get reminded that I exist through my Instagram stories, which with the Five Pillars Nation, we are doing the challenge through the end of this year of three stories a day, three posts a week, which is a lovely way to stay top of mind, especially because my profile itself says Shelby Johnson with the Pinn, Lexington, Kentucky, Realtors. So even if I've never spoken to these people who I met at CrossFit or whatever about real estate, every time I ping pop up, they are reminded subconsciously that I am your real estate homie, right?
Starting point is 00:03:46 Okay. So daily we have the Instagram stories. We have CrossFit, which I'm going to in-person reminder that I exist. And then weekly we have our Instagram post. which my focus has been on our Five Pillars team Instagram page and not posting on my own because I'm feeling very inspired and excited about working on the team page, which Ali and I've talked about this a couple episodes ago about whether or not to start a new profile or whether to build from scratch. And so make sure you go back and listen to the social media one we did a couple
Starting point is 00:04:17 because it does depend on you and your goals. And for me, in my situation, it made sense to start a team page from the ground up in a new city. And it's really funny because, you know, all of these agents follow me now from both of us from like the podcast and stuff like that. And so I'll post something about the team and then all these motherfucking agents go and follow it. And no shit, as soon as they follow, I'm removing them. I'm like, you're not following this page because you're not in Lexington. So that's funny. So, okay, are you removing them because of the algorithm? Does that, does that change? Because I, exactly. Because I, because I don't want the algorithm to be confused about who my target is.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And so if I'm letting all these agents from all over the country follow me and they're the ones who are engaging with my contact, the algorithm will not realize that the only people I want are in Lexington at all, period. And so I am just removing that. And even when I share something, like you probably saw it yesterday. I shared something like, hey, Kentucky, join the party. If you're in Kentucky, you know, follow this. P.S., if you're not from Kentucky, please don't follow.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And I still like every time someone follows it on, I'm like, remove, remove, fuck you. I didn't realize that the Instagram algorithm was that was very, very similar to YouTube then. To YouTube. Well, it hasn't always been, but it has been more and more SEO based. And just in general, I mean, if you think about it, granted, I don't know, I don't work at Instagram. So I don't know this for a fact, fact. But like, logically, you know, the algorithm is constantly testing, you know, who's interacting with your content. And then based on that, they always have that profiles that
Starting point is 00:06:00 you might like or content you might like. They're constantly like serving things that are related to that. So if you, if this is my thought, if I allow people outside of my target to follow me, and when the page is so new, I only have 40 fucking, I think 50 now, then when the algorithm is really trying to figure out like with my 10 posts, who are you? What do you want? I really feel like I'm shooting myself in the foot if I'm allowing people other than my target to follow. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Yeah. And okay, so with the nurture on the socials just real quick, because I spent the weekend flushing this out further because I've been in test mode,
Starting point is 00:06:33 which, Ellie, I'm sure you know. Like I'm just at this point, I'm trying to figure out what consistent content I want to post and how I want to go about doing that because I think, Allie, your process is Sundays, right? Is that, tell me about your planning process for socials. I, yes, it is Sundays. So I have a different process between YouTube, longer form videos and short form content, majority of my focus and effort and everything else is on long form content because that's just done so well for me. You do it one time. You don't have to think about posting and then posting again six hours later to get in front of people. So, so yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:13 on Sundays I think about what videos I want to be recording that week. What do I feel in the mood for, honestly? And I look at my Trello. Trello is where I hold everything. So I have a couple of different boards and columns just for the different channels. So over time, whatever I have an idea, like at any time, whether it's at midnight or, you know, noon, whatever it is, I throw it in the Trello just as like a brain dump, you know, dog parks in St. Louis, something like that. Like just, I just brain dump as in Trello. And then over time on Sundays, I look at all the titles or where I was going to go with the video and I just fill in the gaps. Sometimes I record on Sundays too, if I'm in the mood. I, I, I'm actually not one of the batchers right now just because sometimes, you know, I have it time blocked
Starting point is 00:08:02 for me to record on Saturdays, but I don't always fucking feel like it. And if I don't feel like it, I'm not going to force myself because then it's even worse than than not recording at all. I think. Yeah, it comes through for sure. Yeah, definitely. So that's what I do on Sundays. It's kind of I plan out what am I, what am I feel like talking about or is there any crazy current event that I want to make sure that I get in this week. Dude, totally. Okay, love it. That is also similar to my process now for socials,
Starting point is 00:08:28 but I, and I agree, my focus will be long form when I get there. If you listen to the last video that I recorded, that is not on track to even start until December. So right now I'm just trying to really flesh out my system for my three posts a week and get ahead. I have been scrambling with a five pillars fucking challenge, like the past two weeks, if you look at my post, I posted all three on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Because I didn't do shit during the week and I was like, oh my God, I will not fail. I won't do these fucking burpees. And so I post three on Sunday. It's been horrible. But this upcoming week, it's Monday and I already posted one. I'm feeling like, oh, finally on a little ahead. It is your birthday. So you are just on track, baby.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Girl. That's right. That's right. Thanks. Yeah. So with the hyperlocal content, just one more note on that because this is nurture, right? This is staying top of mind. So I decided after thinking through all of the different strategies when creating a brand new page,
Starting point is 00:09:24 I decided on the hyper local content because it is so top of funnel. And the reason why is so people only want to buy or sell every few years, right? And so I wanted to do something that not only I wanted to do like I love, which is I enjoy going out and like finding cool things about the city and sharing the like, oh, did you know? Check out the secret, whatever. but also I wanted content that people wanted to pay attention to, regardless of where they were in the buyer and seller journey, super shareable to really the idea is to get it out to as many people as possible. And then from there, of course, it says we're a real estate team in the bio and in like on our pinned pages. And eventually I'll do some calls to action and I'll share on stories about closing success and all of that stuff. But I wanted the content itself to be hyper relevant to as many people as possible. Yeah, so that is the, that is social media to stay top of mind. And then, of course, I'm going to have those YouTube videos, which will also be more nurture over time.
Starting point is 00:10:27 But now let's get into automated things because I said I wasn't going to talk about the texts and the calls. So monthly, what I am doing is I'm setting up Lolo, which have we talked about Lolo before on this channel, Allie? Sometimes I get confused. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Briefly. Yes. But let's go over again because it's been like at least 50 episodes.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Oh, okay. Okay, perfect. Okay, so Lolo is Love Local. I think that's what it stands for, but it's literally just LOLO.com or Google Lolo or join Lolo. I think it might be. Anyway, so what it is is you can select the amount of people you want. Like minimum is 25 people per month to get an automated text from Lolo. that has a gift, has a little goody. So what it is is let's just pretend Allie lives in Lexington. And I
Starting point is 00:11:24 have a Lolo account. I'm an agent. And I want to stay top of mine for Allie. So I set her up on Lolo. So once a month, she'll get a text from Lolo that's branded from Shelby that says, hey, Allie, here's a gift from Shelby. Get your two free cookies at Olive's Bakery, Cheers, whatever. And so now Ali's, oh my God, Shelby just sent me two fucking free cookies. This is so exciting. And then she hypothetically goes, gets her free cookies, posts about it, shares a little, oh, thanks, so much, and gets that out to the world and more people. But the way Lolo works, because it's only a dollar and some change per person, is that Lolo, the company, goes to a city and searches small businesses and contacts each one of them and says, hey, would you like to give a goodie, a little
Starting point is 00:12:13 freebie giveaway in exchange for getting your brand and company out to potentially hundreds, whatever, thousands of more people. And the business is, fuck yeah, I'll give away two free cookies if I can get in front of a thousand more people. And so then Lolo sets up their calendar on these small business free giveaways once a month. And then the real estate agent can go and upload their list of Alley's and whoever and then set it on autopilot. So every single month, Allie gets reminded in a cute, non-salesy, adorable fucking way. The small business wins, Allie wins, Shelby wins, Lola wins. Everyone's a winner.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Does that make sense? Yes, it does. It does make sense. Okay. And the whole intent of that is I was thinking of things that I wanted to be automated, that didn't feel automated in a gross way. How many things can we layer on to nurture people so that you stay top of mind in a way where it's incredibly positive?
Starting point is 00:13:10 because some people are top of mind in a fucking negative way. And you don't want to be that either where it's like, oh, my God, this person is so annoying and so salesy and not authentic. And they don't care about me. They only care about the transaction. And you know, you don't want to be that either. Yeah. When we had, I think it was when we went to Tom Ferry last year, summit last year,
Starting point is 00:13:31 when that's where we first heard of Lolo. Because we were talking to the person at the stand there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I remember he put, I don't know if he put your phone number in there. He put mine in there. And to this day, I'm still getting text messages.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And I wish that I could use them, but we don't live there. Dude, I texted him and I said, hey, dude, I moved to Lexington. Can you update my city? And he did. Oh, shit. Okay. Girl, you got to get on. I've long lost it.
Starting point is 00:14:00 No worries. I will send it to you right now because this actually reminded me that I did not tell him I changed my number. So now I'm going to miss out my gifts if I don't text. I mean, you know what I'm saying. Also, that is so shameless. I moved. I want my gifts here. Okay. I, yeah, but so the thing is, in exchange for my shamelessness, he's probably going to get more business because I keep telling motherfuckers about it because it's so great. I need to, oh, there it is. But I can't do it right now because we're in the middle of the show. Let me just write this down. I'll share it with you afterwards. Okay. Matthew Simpson. Okay, moving right along. So that's Lolo.
Starting point is 00:14:39 for those beautiful gifts once a month automated. I can set it and I can forget it. And every time I meet someone who I'm like, oh my God, I want to give them a gift once a month, all I do is just send it to Cheska, my VA, she'll update the list. And then it will just keep happening,
Starting point is 00:14:53 which is amazing. That's what we want, right? The next thing is HomeBot. Oh, yeah. Before we go on, time or frequency, is it just one gift a month? Correct.
Starting point is 00:15:06 One gift a month. Okay. And what's, It's 25 people minimum. 25 people per month minimum, which comes out to $43.75. Got it. Per the minimum. I do think that as you add more contacts, it becomes a little cheaper.
Starting point is 00:15:23 But still, it's very inexpensive. If you think about client giant, where you spend, what is it, $100 per singular person, they get four gifts a month? Yep. And they're gifts that, like, I mean, client giant is cool, but like, in your case, Allie, you sign people up and it's so not your personality that like when people got like the fucking charcutory set or whatever they're like this is weird this does not feel like is this alley i don't even know if i want to tag yeah yeah right whereas i think lolo not only is it less expensive you can send
Starting point is 00:15:56 it to way more people and for me it's just as cute and i love the idea of seeing new small businesses like it helps people figure out what's out there you know what i mean yeah definitely Definitely. Okay. The other automated monthly thing is for anyone who's a homeowner, whether that be someone currently who owns a home that I know that they're homeowner and anyone who I help buy or sell and buy, they're going to get set up on HomeBot, which I know Allie in Arizona for sure, HomeBot is not accurate. And I have no idea if it's accurate or not here in Lexington. I'm still going to fucking do it because there's, I talk to the people at the booth at Tom Berry and they're like, you can, you can do adjustments. That can be another reason.
Starting point is 00:16:38 to talk to someone like you can put in there, hey, does this look off to you? And then it's a conversation where you can go in and play with the adjustments and whatever. Also, they gave at Tom Ferry, they gave, I have a couple coupons for three months. So I'm going to try it. It's $25 a month for up to 500 contacts with a one-time startup fee of $50. Or in your case, Allie, right, you split with a lender or someone. So I actually don't use HomeBot because it's just so inaccurate. But also, I never even tried to see if I could make it more accurate. So could have done that. But some lenders, like my preferred lender, has spots available.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So it would have just been given. So definitely reach out to a lender, see if they have any spots available. Totally. If you are looking to change brokerages this year so you can increase your business and you want to join us at EXP Realty and would like either myself, Aligar said, or Shelby Johnson to personally sponsor you in. So that way you have access to two icon agents, text the word. join to either my number 914-318-49-18 or Shelby's number 859-267-3849. If I sponsor you and you have access to the both of us and everything that's Five Pillars Nation, we have the checklist, the systems, the processes to help you scale your business,
Starting point is 00:17:57 and don't take our word for it. We've had agents switch brokerages to join us that were stuck making $300,000 GCI, and they join us so they can scale. So text the word joined to those numbers, and we'll take the next steps. Yes, anything to cut these costs. Okay, then those are two automated things monthly in addition to my other nurture of going to meetups monthly. I did not want to start my own meetup. I don't want to do it. I don't want the responsibility because I want to pick and choose when I go and when I don't. But as of now, I am planning on going. Like I found the ones that excite me. And I'm going to go to, I have a list of four that I'm going to every single month just to get out there. It's another story to, you know, share, it's another connection. You could take a selfie, you know, put it on your story tag them. They share it with their friends. It's just another way to expand your reach and stay top of mind, right? Okay, so those are monthly. Now we move to quarterly, which is the Reminder Media Magazine.
Starting point is 00:18:53 That is what I'm doing. This is another set and for a type of thing where you upload a list of people and it just happens. So four times a year, my list of people who I believe are my core advocates. And what I mean by that is, so there's sphere of influence, but then there's core advocates. And by core of advocates, I mean, who are the people that when they're not around you and real estate comes up, are they like, oh my God, Allie, you have to talk to Allie. She's amazing. These are the people who are advocating for you and really pushing your name who really believe in you. And I want to continue to treat those people. So that is my list of, so with Reminder Media, you get 50 magazines per. I forgot to update the quote on that.
Starting point is 00:19:38 per distribution. And I, again, I'm doing it quarterly. You can do it monthly, whatever you want, but it equated out for me a thousand dollars a year. So $250 per 50 magazines that are mailed out to your core advocates. And if you have a list of core advocates that is less than 50, they will mail you the extras. So that way you can bring them on listing appointments or you can put them, you know, in the nice restaurant, you know, stand so people can grab magazines. People in Lexington do that a lot, actually. There's like a bunch of like local little magazines that people like put and people grab. So that's just what you can do if.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Oh, and one more thing on Reminder Magazine is that you can choose your type of magazine, which by the way, this is like high quality print. Oh, I should probably mention this. Most times when you pay for a page in a magazine, you are literally, it's someone else magazine, there's a bunch of other vendors in there who are also paying for spots. The difference with this is that you are the only vendor in the whole fucking magazine. It is your face on the front page and it's high quality print and you can choose to put, this is smart, that if you want to sell spaces to vendors, like to your lender or to your
Starting point is 00:20:55 painter or whatever, you can sell out like little cutouts within the page and then essentially get the cost for free. So if you charge your lender, if you charge your painter, you know, $175 each, is that good math? I don't know. Then essentially, it's free for you. Does that make sense? Nice. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And that's the perfect way for you to even strengthen your relationships with the vendor partners, whether it's a moving company. It doesn't have to be a lender. Like it could be anything. Yeah, like you said, a painter. That's cool. That's awesome. Or you could even highlight a past client too, be like, hey, this is a store.
Starting point is 00:21:31 and do an interview but in text. Oh, that's awesome. I like that a lot. I do too. I think, and the cool thing, too, is that because it's high quality, that it's the kind of thing that people don't throw away. They're going to sit it on their coffee table or they're going to sit it in their entryway table for, you know, a couple months until your next one comes.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And what I started mentioning and I don't think I finished is that you can choose the type of magazine. So if you want American lifestyle, if you want one with just beautiful homes and it's also regional. So like reminder media is the one who does the entire writing, the design and everything. And they only allow so many per area. So they're not the same magazine going out to, you know, the same people. But there's also one for Mike and I were talking about this, Michael Glasby.
Starting point is 00:22:14 He's a five dollars obviously. He, whatever. They have one for business. They have a business facing one. So because he, his target audience is business owners. So they have an entrepreneur style one. So it's pretty cool that you can choose. your type of magazine to be sent off. Does that make sense? Yeah, definitely. Okay. So that's quarterly.
Starting point is 00:22:36 And then by annually, this is my next nurture is we're going to do two events a year. And we are going to do one on Memorial Day and one on Veterans Day because we are leaning into the military because it's one of the things that makes us different. And in the Memorial Day one, we're going to do like very Caitlin Blosser style where we can, you know, have invite people to our house and have them just pop by and pick up an American flag if they want one, you know, to put outside their house, like the little pole and the flag. I looked it up on Amazon at $20 for per flag. And what Caitlin Blosser does, guys, if you haven't listened to her episode, you should go back and listen to Caitlin's because she is who I'm stealing this idea from.
Starting point is 00:23:19 But basically there's like a RSVP genius or something like that where you like text it out and they have to RSVP if they want one so you know how many to buy. And then the people come by your house so you don't have to drive around all these different things. And you can have like charcutory out if you want, which I probably will just because I fucking love charcutory. And then they can stop by and hang out if they want, grab their flag and leave if they don't want to be chatty. And then it's like a very constricted time frame because I don't want people to be there forever. And I also don't want to go to them. So I'm trying to make it how I want to do it as much as possible. But that's the Memorial Day event. And then the one for Veterans Day is I still have to convince Drake to do this, but this is what I
Starting point is 00:23:54 want to do. And it's not going to be this year. This would be next year at a minimum. But I want to do a day at the range with a sniper because Drake is a sniper and he, uh, in the Marines. And so I think it would be a cool thing to raise awareness and donations for taps, which is our like partner organization. Yeah. And those two things aren't super fleshed out because it's for next year at a minimum. The earliest is Memorial Day. So I still have time to figure all those out. But the intent is to nurture, right? That's what we're talking about, which is a way to stay top of money. mind, a reason for you to reach out, a reason for people to be like, oh, my God, they're doing something cool in the, did you hear? Oh, this is so nice. Take a picture, start on their social
Starting point is 00:24:32 media, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You get it? Yep, yep. And for those that have not listened to Caitlin's episode, I looked it up, it is episode 80. Go back to episode 80. She covers everything related to gifts and the feel good of seeing people in person. And the biggest difference of what I think she does is she invites people over to her house. And as soon as people walk through her door, they're friends. It changes that relationship. And so she's really, really good at that. Reach out to her and give her a follow to.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Caleb lost her. Totally. She's a fucking badass. Okay. Moving on. So those are, I just went through daily weekly. monthly by annual. And now my last little section is miscellaneous.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And miscellaneous number one is birthdays, which is so, it is my birthday today. But that's big birthday. Thank you so much. I flesh this out this weekend and I'm so excited because this is from Mary Harmon Young, which we interviewed her on here too. Yeah, we did. So whatever episode that is, I was probably going to look it up when I keep talking. look it up. Yeah. This is stolen from her because I thought this was so cute because normally,
Starting point is 00:25:50 you know, you can get happy birthday text or an automated email. Those are like, the automated email is the lowest form of this. If I get an automated fucking email that looks like it's from MailChimp or whatever and it's not personalized, I don't care. I get those from vendors or whoever I'm like, that's not cool. That's not personalized. If I just get a text, that's cooler, especially because those are personalized for sure. If I get a video message like, Ali probably does, that's like really, really cool. I love that. And so the intent of this is I want to do. Oh, and then, of course, there's cards. So if there's like a Happy birthday card where you just write, happy birthday, Ali, that's it. That's nice, but it's like kind of a lower form. So I was like, how do I make this standout, fun, not break the bank and make people talk about it? Because I think that's becoming a theme, which I didn't even realize until saying this out loud to you, Allie and Oliver, listener, friends. is that I want the things that I do to be bragworthy, to be like, did you hear? Oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:26:54 this is so cool. This is different. And so with these birthday boxes that I'm totally ripping off from Mary Harmon Young is episode 107. Thank you. Thank you so much. And I got, I ordered all of these things off Amazon and I'm giving all of the materials to the 13 year old who lives down the street who's going to be the one who package them and mails them out using pirate shipping, which is the huge discount shipping service. You actually look at a pirate service or pirate shipping. But anyway, so in the little birthday box, there are just these simple little white boxes, which I have the hyperlinks to all of this, ask me for it, or I can upload it. I can send it to our editor and she can have it uploaded. But there are these little white boxes that you
Starting point is 00:27:37 put together. Very like simple. All of these are bulk ordered and amorted. on too. So I spent $110 on all of these supplies. It'll be at least 50 boxes, birthday boxes. So it's the white boxes. And then it's the little Debbie birthday cake cakes, like individually packaged, which kind of hurts my soul because I am on the crunchy train. And these are like fucking really not good for you. But they're cute. So it's fine. Little birthday cakes, then it's a singular candle. It's a singular balloon. It's a singular little party blower thing. You know, I just had to act it out for you. You're welcome, Alley. I think I just saw your spit. Let me just wipe it off the screen. Okay. And it has crinkle paper in there, you know, the makes it look cute. And then a little
Starting point is 00:28:33 thing of matches. So that is the birthday box. And then it's going to have the 13 year old that's going to write a hand-readed message, you know, happy birthday, name, hope you have the most magical year yet, love Shelby and Drake five-fellar's team. If I want her to personalize it, I will just let her know. Otherwise, that is it. But also, we are also going to send a little video message, depending on the closeness of the person. So that way we have the video like, oh my God, but also this is so cute. Oh my God. What is this? I get to put together and like light the little. It's a magical fucking experience, isn't it? That's exactly what it is. Yes, it's an experience. And that's what other people don't give.
Starting point is 00:29:07 They give the birthday card. They open it up. Awesome. And that's it. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Like literally,
Starting point is 00:29:14 if I got this, I would be thrilled. I would be like, this is the cutest fucking thing of my life. I would tell at least five people. You can't believe that's a bunch. You know what I mean? So how are you going to decide who gets this and who doesn't?
Starting point is 00:29:28 That is a great question. As of now, well, first of all, I don't have everyone, everyone's birthdays. So that is definitely a factor. And other than that, I feel like I'm going to pretty much send it to everyone who I have a meaningful conversation with and then also get their birthdays, which I, this is,
Starting point is 00:29:51 this is like next, next phase is I have been going through all of the contacts in my phone. Did I tell you this already? No. I've been going through all my contacts because I have so many in there that are like, you know, hinge hot or roofer like cute douchebag or these are the contacts in my phone it's not okay so now that i've gotten a new phone i'm like going through all of them i'm deleting contacts i'm renaming so that they're appropriate and then what i'm going to do hopefully this upcoming weekend on saturday is when i want to do this is go through and literally text everyone in my phone and be like hey this is shelley i got a new
Starting point is 00:30:32 number because I did. I got a new number. They don't have it. And so I can be like, hey, I got a new number. I just want to know, like, where are you these days? Give me an update. Because I have so many people in the army or, you know, people from that glass from the past that it's just a great way for me to be like, I got a new phone number. I'm in a new fucking city. Tell me about your life. And then they'll be like, what are you doing these days? And I'll be like, oh, awesome. And depending on how the conversation goes, that's also when I'm going to be like, dude, also I'm like going through all my contacts. What's your email these days? What's your address? What's your, what's your birthday? So that is my plan for capturing as much. If the conversation doesn't go well or if I'm like,
Starting point is 00:31:09 this is awkward or weird, like, I don't know how much information I'll push for. At a minimum, I'm texting everyone being like, hey, what are you up to? But we'll see. But ideally, by the end of that, I will have a shit ton of birthdays, a shit ton of mailing addresses, emails, all the things that are missing from my like, you know, brunette hot hinge crossfitter, you know, code names for these fucking randos at my phone. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Good. That's going to take a long time. Oh my God. All of this, all of it takes so long. You know that, but I'm so excited because it feels really fresh and really clean to go through everything
Starting point is 00:31:48 and just get it. It's going to be so good. Yeah, so those are birthday boxes. And then I, I also have, I'm building out the templates. I have some done, but not all of them for, I have a whole box of cards with envelopes and return labels that I'm giving to the 13-year-old down the street, along with, I've already created a little duty description for her. I'm calling her job the care bear role, which I stole from Tom Ferry. Some speaker talked about the carebear
Starting point is 00:32:15 is like the person who like does the cutesy things that make people feel like really cared about. So the 13-year-old is my carebear and she has a little box of all the cards and all the cards and all the materials that she needs. And I have made her duty description. I've also giving her templates of my different scenarios. I have to interrupt. I love how I'm reading the notes right now. And it's keep it out of Alana's house.
Starting point is 00:32:38 It's not her mom's house. It's the 13 year old's house. That's right. Yeah. Mom's moving out, actually. Yeah. But so the cards that she'll have is she'll have a bunch of scenarios for thank you cards, which I am trying to be way better.
Starting point is 00:32:53 never been a card girl because I hate the time it takes to write. It's just such a pain in my soul. But now that I don't have to write it, I'm like, oh my God, I could send a million cards. This is great. So there's a ton of different scenarios for thank you cards. So there's going to be a card for any referral I get from a non-agent, any referral I get from an agent, you know, post-listing appointment, post-fires appointment, closing, and then just like miscellaneous. Hey, you know, you hosted this event last week. I just want to let you know that your efforts were notice. I know how hard it is to run an event. Thank you for bringing people together. You're awesome. Love Shelby. You know, just those little extra things is I'm trying to finally be the good,
Starting point is 00:33:35 caring person that is not an natural thing for me to write a card about. So that makes sense. If you are looking to change brokerages this year so you can increase your business and you want to join us at EXP Realty and would like either myself, Alligar said, or Shelby Johnson to personally sponsor you in, set what you have access to two icon agents, text the word join to either my number, 911, 318-49-48-48-18, or Shelby's number, 859-267-3849. If I sponsor you and you have access to the both of us and everything that's Five Pillars Nation, we have the checklist, the systems, the process is to help you scale your business, and don't take out word for it. We've had agents switch brokerages to join us that were stuck making $300,000 GCI, and they join
Starting point is 00:34:23 us so they can scale. So text that we're joined to those numbers and we'll take the next steps. Yeah. Oh, 100%. I'm like terrible at Reddick. You're talking to the right person about that. Whatever. I have to give an agent a shout out. This agent does such a good job on saying thank you. And especially like when he gets a referral and I've sent him a ton of referrals. So Joe Bennett is out of Tampa, Florida. And whenever I send him a referral, first of all, he brings them to the closing table. He's a good agent. He immediately sends a video text and is, hey, like, this is me.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Let's schedule a time to call. He always ends up bringing them to close. But then also he has, and I've seen him switch and upgrade his thank you box, you know, for inbound referrals. And so now he provides a box with a paper confetti type stuff. So it's like cutesy and he used to. Mindful. Mindful. Look at Shelby with the trends.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Oh, I got to know. And one in a row. He used to, he used to send crumble cookies, but now he's upgraded. Now he has his own branded cookies. So two big ass cookies with a vanilla type thing. It's a hard cookie.
Starting point is 00:35:41 So it's not like a soft cookie. And then so therefore in the vanilla part, It's his logo. It's his name on there, along with like multiple gift cards. It's so cute. And I don't do that. You know, I'm like, holy shit. It just makes you feel good.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Like you get it, you know, like a month later. You're like, oh, yeah. I forgot that I even, you know, I didn't expect the thank you. But it's so extra that it makes me want to refer to Joe Bennett in Tampa, Florida, even more. Oh, my God. That is so good. Here I was being like so proud that I'm sending out a fucking card. I did not mean to crush you.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Sorry. You just, you rained all over my fucking birthday parade. It's what you did. Okay, that's good. You know, there's always the upgrade that you got to do. You keep upgrading or just once a year. It's what does Joe Bennett do? Okay, we'll do some of that.
Starting point is 00:36:30 What does Caitlin Blosser do? Mary Harmon Young. And then, you know, you'll be good to go. So cards, yes, birthday we talked about, homoversary, I don't have figured out what I want to do for that. And then the check-in, okay, this is more miscellaneous, is, and I got this from you, Allie, like when you are checking in, this literally direct quote from notes I took on yours where it remind them of a story or a win we had together.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I thought that was so fucking good instead of just, you know, and that can even work with the homoversary, like if you were calling or if you were texting or whatever. Dude, do you remember it was literally this time last year that we got you fucking $4,000 in closing costs? Can you believe that? It's amazing or whatever. Yeah. But then these are just ideas that I haven't flushed out.
Starting point is 00:37:15 But the Zestimant screenshot of, hey, what do you think about this? You know, as if, and I'm trying to like make it less formal. Hey, Susan, I was thinking, you know, instead of that's something a friend would do is take a screenshot and send it to me. Hey, what do you think about this? And not, hey, this is high or hey, this is low. Just what do you think about this for a conversation? Market update. Al you said, give them a CMA every single year.
Starting point is 00:37:36 So I got that from you. I also got Shred Method from you. And then as applicable, inviting people to an event, hey, I'm going to this. you should totally come. I'd love to see you there. Rate changes, changes in the industry, blah, blah, blah. And that, yeah, that's it. That's my nurture. I'm done. That's one hell of a nurture. Like, it's, it's so intense. I love it. But I, like, it's so hard to continue. I have found, yeah, I struggle with the automation portion.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Because in the beginning, I was doing cards. And that requires, unless I paper, the professional stuff that does it, you know, professionally with robots. Which is way more expensive. Yeah. And then, yes, it's so expensive. It's really, really good to be like thousands and thousands of like monthly. But it's very expensive. So the, the, but even if you start, you know, even if you just do it one time,
Starting point is 00:38:31 at least you've done it because other agents aren't doing that. So I love that. You shared your exact freaking process step by step. And we have. You know what? We should probably reach out to these companies. Oh, for affiliates? I think like, for what? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Actually, probably, yeah, if they were able to give everyone. No one reach out to them until we have affiliate links. No. So I already asked Lolo, they don't do affiliates. Reminder media, I haven't asked, but they definitely would. They were wheeling and dealing with me at Tom Ferry when I was like, hey, if I get you sending it to sign up on the spot, what do I get? Like, I was the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And they were like, yeah. is right there. No, she was. She literally was standing right there. And I was like, hey, you're going to take this for the team, aren't you? That's so funny. Yeah. No, but they will, they will play ball is what I'm saying. What else did I mention on here? I don't think Ollano, the 13 year old, will give like any sort of affiliate. I don't think that's there in the budget. Although I was actually thinking like during this alley, I was like, I wonder, I bet she would, if you wanted to use her to. I mean, I don't know, I haven't used her yet. So I don't know how responsible this 13-year-old is going to be. But I do know that she is very money-motivated
Starting point is 00:39:53 and she has followed up with me like three times about when I'm going to start doing these cards, which I think is an amazing sign. And I'm sure she could handle more business. So if you don't care that they're mailed from Kentucky, which maybe you care, maybe you don't, maybe you could hire her too. We'll see. That's cool. I love how right after this call, you're probably going to, you're probably going to walk down to Alana's house. Alana's house, not Katie's. Not Katie's. be like, Alana, if Ali signs up, can I get my first month free? She's like, you haven't made me at all yet, bitch. No, I hired her for those bracelets.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Remember the bracelets I brought to Tom Perry? I gave her $100. So cute. Those are such a hit. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. Such a hit, totally. But yeah, that's all.
Starting point is 00:40:37 We did it, right? That's it? We did it. Thank you for sharing, especially on your birthday. This is such a good plan. I'm excited. I'm also very curious to see how many people end up, of your clients, end up doing the shred method or how they respond. You do like follow-ups or updates on, I sent out the ZMA and what have they said in response?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Because, yeah, that'd be cool. Totally. Totally agree. And I think we are getting a shred method person on here, aren't we? Adam. We sure are. Get excited. I love it.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I think that's it. Be a bro and share this show. We're going to hop right in. That's it. If you're not watching on YouTube, you just missed it. It was great. I have to pause real quick because there's a fucking cat on my desk. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I see a tail. I do see a tail. A few moments later. Yes, I could hear your cat. Oh, fuck. She's so annoying. She acts as if she's dying of hunger and I just fed her. Like, she eats.
Starting point is 00:41:46 She peels. then she complains because she's hungry.

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