KGCI: Real Estate on Air - Amy Siewe

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is the roadmap to defeat self-sabotage, negative thinking, and learned helplessness? In these unprecedented times, you must get connected, get growing, get certain, and get attitude. The Get Attitude Podcast. And welcome to the Get Attitude Podcast, the Gap, your destination, if you want to grow from who you are to who you want to become. And if you want to get from where you are to where you want to go, and let me tell you something, ladies and gentlemen, especially my peeps in Indy. We are live on Facebook,
Starting point is 00:01:10 and I'd love you to share out this video. If you're watching this, I'm telling you this is going to be such a cool conversation because we have with us in studio, Miss Amy Sewee, who is the Python Huntress. And Amy has an incredible story at her website, Python Huntress, Contras.com. You can go find accessories from what she does, and we'll get into that in a little bit later. Watch her videos, her photos, get a little education on what she does. She is also launching her professional speaking career.
Starting point is 00:01:45 So if you are an event planner or somebody like that that is looking to find somebody that is, I mean, she's awesome, but she is a little unusual with what she does. Let's just go ahead and take a look right now. Jason, if you want to just cue it up, this is what the python hunters does when she goes to work. Let's see if it's anything like when you go to work. Ready, go. Oh, my God. Amy, how many feet is this?
Starting point is 00:02:13 She is 173. 110 pounds. 110 pound snake. I did. Look at the head on that python. Unbelievable. Right. So, ladies and gentlemen, I want to welcome my friend, my former real estate colleague. Do you still have your real estate license? I do.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I like it. Miss Amy, see we? Amy, welcome to the Get Attitude podcast. Well, thank you very much. I'm very excited to be here. Right. And we had seen each other in the airport a few years ago. I'm like, I'm going to get you on your podcast because ladies and gentlemen, just like most of you that may be listening, you may be in a career where you're like, you know what, this isn't fulfilling. this isn't my heart. This isn't what I want to do. I mean, look at 75% of people are not totally satisfied with what they do. And our guest today, Amy, is going to talk to us about how she came to that decision and how she totally shifted and changed her life and what her attitude was. So if you're somebody that's feeling stuck, if you're somebody that's going, I don't really want to pursue my
Starting point is 00:03:22 dream. I don't really want to pursue what makes me happy. I know there's something more me inside, then you know what? I think Amy's might going to be able to help you today. So Amy, it's time for the interview now. You ready to go? All right. So let's, first of all, I always love to ask you, our guest, what's your definition of attitude? Like, what's that mean to you? And who do you think was your first attitude teacher? Well, attitude for me is really, it's just the mindset on what you do for everything. If you've got, and it actually sets the bar for everything that you do. I've had all kinds of attitudes.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Yes. Haven't we all, though? Yes. And I think it was probably between my dad and Jack Canfield, I have to say. I'm a huge Jack Canfield fan. We're working on getting Jack on the gap. Yeah, that's pretty cool. He'd be awesome.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah, do you know him? I don't know him, but I've gone to a lot of his things. All right. Maybe you can help us get him on. All right. So your dad and Jack Canfield, tell me what your dad and Jack Canfield taught you about attitude. So as far as my dad, it was more growing up, I was very impatient.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I didn't have a great attitude. Everything was annoying to me. And, you know, I guess I was a typical teenager. So he kind of instilled it in me to slow down, put your patient's pants on. And that kind of helped with moving forward. With Jack, it was more about really the attitude in life and the mindset in life. and how you view things as how they will be. And it's really easy to sometimes get down into a yucky place.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And with some of the things that I learned from him, you just take it in a different direction. You make that choice to take it in a different direction, and it changes everything. Right. So, you know, we all can choose our attitudes, which is the great thing. What was like the number one thing Jack Canfield taught you
Starting point is 00:05:21 that you take with you or that you think about? Maybe you just told us, I don't know, but what else, if anything, what advice did you get from him that has made things happen for you? There's been so many things that I could sit here for an hour. The one thing that I will tell you is when we went to his seminar, this is about five years ago. He does the come as you are party five years from now. Wow. And do you know what I came as? What did you go as?
Starting point is 00:05:50 anaconda hunter in the Amazon. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's crazy. The Florida thing. Python's not even a thing. Right. Not even a thing.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And that's what I went five years ago. And five years later, I'm catching pythons in the Everglades. Right. And so that's like, you know, self-manifestation of what's going on. So maybe, Jason, what we'll do is a come-ish who our podcast as you're going to be in five years. That could rock for season three. I'd like it. Okay, maybe we'll keep that on.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Do we have any live viewers? Do we have anybody saying hi to Amy? I know that our real estate community and Indy was maybe going to tune in. If not, we're going to keep rolling. They're all mesmerized. They're just waiting for, to hear more story. Okay, no problem. So let's just dig right into this major life change for you, right?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Because this is really why I wanted to have you on. Give me a little backstory of like, why did you get into real estate? How long were you in there? you were very successful. Me and you did deals. I loved you from the second we met. I remember our deal was a lot of fun. And so, like, why did you into real estate?
Starting point is 00:06:54 How long were you in it? And then, like, what happened when you said, okay, it's time for me to pivot? So this starts before real estate, before my career even started. This goes back when I was three. My dad put me in a creek and taught me how to catch fish
Starting point is 00:07:08 and crawdads and snakes and all that kind of fun stuff. And my fascination with snakes just took off. Oh, my gosh. This weird passion. And I thought, hey, everybody, like snakes that is not the case so my whole life snakes have always been part i've i've done the exotic pet insectology in the tlito zoo um presentations for kids i was a breeder i had over 50
Starting point is 00:07:33 snakes in my house oh my gosh so it was always that was way back in college but so it was always more of a hobby and then i and i you know have a degree from university of tledo i got into real estate about now 15 years ago and it all just kind of I just, you know, didn't do much with the snakes anymore. I really was concentrated on my real estate career and I loved it. Real estate is amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Yes. Awesome. I had a great career. I had so much fun and very successful and then one day I just said okay, I'm done, I'm going to Florida. So how long did you sell real estate for? 13 years. All right. So that's a long
Starting point is 00:08:16 career and then you just said okay I'm going to go to Florida so like like what was going on was it truly you woke up and said I need to change my life did you think about it was something annoying at you and what do you think the attitude was that you took when you made that jump for those people that may be feeling like you what's the experience like the funny thing was I wasn't really looking for anything else I really love real estate you know it was great and it was one of those things that this passion, this love, has always been a part of me. Right. And I was at a real estate convention in Austin, actually, and I got a call from the producers
Starting point is 00:08:55 of the swamp people, and they said, hey, we want you to be on a bonus episode of catching pythons in the Everglades. And I said, I'm sorry, what? First of all, yes. And I didn't even know there were pythons in the Everglades, so why are you calling me about this? Well, I had this Lake Erie Water Snake video that I put out a while back that went sort of viral. Three million views. Is that right, Jason?
Starting point is 00:09:18 That's correct. I'll pull it up. All right. Yeah, it's like 3.8. It's a lot of... 3.8 million views. It's a lot of views. And so you are at what lake?
Starting point is 00:09:25 At Lake Erie. So Lake Erie, there was a water snake. There are a lot of water snakes. At Lake Erie. And actually, the reason I did this video was because all of my real estate clients, they didn't really know that I had this whole fascination and passion for snakes. So I wanted to show them what, you know, this other side of me. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So that's the whole reason that I did this. this. Right. I do remember when this came out. Right. It was freaking crazy. And you just had no, oh, you had multiples. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Yeah. So that's how these people found me. And now, it didn't work out. The bonus episode, which is totally fine. But that's how I learned that there was a problem with pythons in the Everglades. So I decided to my fiancee and I took a three week trip down to Florida January of 2019 just to see what it was all about. Right. And I went on a hunt with one of my now very good friends, Donna, Kaleel.
Starting point is 00:10:23 She's a python or two. And we got a python. Right. And I was hooked. I was hooked. I was like, I have to figure this out. And so it was just, it was so crazy because, again, I wasn't looking for anything. Oh, this is the
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yeah, there you go. This is what got the recognition, right? Yeah, that's it. So you were just collecting all these water snakes. Yeah, just for fun, just to get in. I let them all go, you know, it was. Right. So you just threw them back in the water.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah, after I counted them. It was just one of those. Oh, my God. I mean, who does that, right? Well, but it's like, it's crazy. So if you're going to Lake Erie to swim, there's snakes all up in Lake Erie. The first two weeks of June, I suggest not going.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Uh-huh. After that, you're fine, but this is their breeding season. Oh, well, see, and was that in June then when you did this? I mean, that is freaking nuts. And then so tell me what the rush was about the first python that you caught because they obviously aren't like these water snakes. And that is exactly why, because they are not like those water snakes. They are huge. They are gigantic.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And, you know, I'm a herper, which means, you know, the study of snakes and reptiles and amphibians is herpetology. Oh, wow. Okay. So people that do this as their hobby, we call ourselves herpers. Okay. And so I would go all over the place, catching snakes, you know, letting them go, whatever. And so to find a giant python is kind of like the mac daddy of all snakes that you find outside, right, especially here in the United States.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So, yeah, so that is what kind of the draw was. It was just the biggest rush and to think, oh, my gosh, these things are out here. But part of it, too, is that, you know, my whole life it's been more of a hobby. Right. And I thought I could actually do some good here. I can put this passion because I'm not afraid of them. I know all about them. I can be an asset here and help Florida get rid of the pythons and the Everglades.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Right. So let's then talk about the nobody knows there's a Python problem. Nobody probably understands there's a Python problem. So like what is the good that you're doing by capturing all these pythons? What's the deal down in the Florida Everglades that nobody knows about? Sure. So pythons aren't invasive species. So they are not from Florida. They're from Southeast Asia. And they are here for two reasons. First of all, they were very popular pets because they're so docile and wonderful, except they get to be 20 feet long. Yeah. And so people would, they would be, you know, 10, 11, 12 feet, too hard to handle, feed and house. So people said, hey, instead of killing the snake, I'm going to let it go live a long, happy life in the Everglades.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Oh, my gosh. And a whole lot of people did that. Wow. But the other major contributor was Hurricane Andrew in 1992. And it came through and it blew a breeding facility away. And it sent thousands of Burmese pythons into the Everglades. Wow. Now we have this huge problem. Well, the problem with them is that it's three and a half million acres that they are perfectly camouflaged in and mainly inaccessible to humans.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Sure. So we have to wait until they come up. And we didn't even realize, I say we, they didn't even realize there was a problem until 2002 when they found the first baby. And they said, wait a minute. Nobody's letting their $200 little python go in the Everglades. Wow. I think we have a problem. And by then it was way too late.
Starting point is 00:13:53 But the thing is, they're eating all of the mammals and birds. 98% of the mammals are gone in parts of the Everglades because of the pythons. The food chain. They are the apex predator. So they are the top of the animals. They are it. And we have you to knock them off of the apex. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:12 How many big-ass pythons are there in the Everglades? Millions? We don't know. It's estimated between 100,000 and 300,000. Wow. And they reproduce 20 to 40 eggs a year. The big ones, over 100 eggs. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:27 So it's a big problem. So one snake could produce 50 snakes a year, female, obviously. How does a python get pregnant? Well, that's for a different podcast, I think. Well, I didn't know. When a mommy snake and a daddy snake love each other very much. I just say the stork brings it. The stork brings it?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Well, is it like fish or is it like humans? Okay. Like humans, we'll go with. Oh, really? Have you ever watched two snakes breed? Well, yeah. Actually, it's on my leggy. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:15:05 It's all my chicken now. My like your video. There's part of it. There's a piece that I say, everyone wants to know what it looks like. This is what it looks like. All right. So if you guys want to know what two snakes breeding look like, you need to go to Pythonhunteris.com.
Starting point is 00:15:19 The great Amy Ceewee is with us today talking about life changes, career changes, and what she's doing now. Financially, like, real estate's good, right? Yes. And so I'm guessing that this probably isn't as good as real estate. You would be correct in saying that. And so was your thought, you know what? I don't care.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I'm going to do what I want to do. And this is what's going to happen. I'm leaving the money behind. And like, how do you do that? What would your advice be to people that are sitting here listening going, well, I would love to go do something else, but I can't afford it. So here's what happened. We got back from vacation from that three weeks.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And I just had this feeling. I was just, I have to be there. That is what I'm supposed to do. I don't know why I feel this. But it was so overpowering. And so I talked to Dave about a week later, I said, Dave, I have to go. I have to go. There's nothing that I can do here that's going to help me become a python hunter in Florida.
Starting point is 00:16:23 He said, I know. I knew we were going from the moment that I saw you with that python. He said, I'll be there. I just can't quite yet, but I'll be there. I'll be dog gone. And it was, and I'm telling you, it looked. ridiculous on paper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Because I... I know I thought you were ridiculous. Oh yeah. Everyone thinks I'm crazy and nuts and... Which is fine. I mean, I take it as a compliment. Yes. But, you know, I... I didn't know anyone down there. I knew Donna. I didn't know...
Starting point is 00:16:51 The government was closed when I went. And these are all government jobs. And I'm a contractor, actually. But I didn't even know if they were hiring. If they would be hiring in the near future, I didn't have a place to live. I didn't have a job. I didn't really have, you know, anything.
Starting point is 00:17:07 But it made sense, like, in my heart, I knew I would figure it out. And I think that was the biggest thing that I just, for whatever reason, it felt the more right than anything in my life. I love it. So cool. But I had to sit there and say, okay, how do you know that this is going to work? And I just said, this is a conversation in my head. And I trust myself. I trust myself that I'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:17:33 and okay what happens if you don't figure it out if it doesn't work if they're not hiring if it's not what you thought okay well I come back to indian do real estate again I get my license in florida i get a different job heck I could bartend if I needed to you know I'll be fine I'll figure it out it's not you know it's not going to die if I don't right this work I love it so I said okay well here we go I'm not dying let's go I just love that I trust myself I'm not going to die think about the best compared to the worst think about what you could have left behind and you know obviously you're fulfilled like none other you're fulfilled like a lot of people aren't are you licensed in florida to sell no okay you're just only in indiana i got you yeah um so i want to go back to this
Starting point is 00:18:18 you worked in a zoo what's it like to work in a zoo and give me one of your favorite zoo stories well i was a volunteer in college at the tilda zoo and so um there were so many crazy things i basically cleaned all the animals. That's what I did. I got that fun job. I will say working there made me realize I did not want to be a biologist, zoologist, herpetologist, because all they did was sit and look at microscopes and do lab work and they were so boring. And I want to be out doing stuff. So it was literally, I'm very thankful that happened because I realized that's not what I wanted to do. I was in charge of cleaning this tortoise run one time. And the guy said, okay, you're going to have to do this quick because this goes back behind all of the crocodile displays.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I said, okay. And I looked down and there's all these metal like patches in the wood going, oh God. And he said, if you want to keep any parts of your body, don't put them over the fence. And the fence was only as tall as my shoulder. So I said, okay. So I'm just doing my thing and cleaning. And all the crocodiles were in the front of the display until I looked. I didn't see any.
Starting point is 00:19:26 they were all right there stalking me. Oh my God, you're kidding. I was like, okay, we're going to go really quick now. We're going to be done with this. But yeah, that was a little interesting. I'm surprised looking back that they actually put me in that position, but it was kind of cool to be stalked by Nile Crocodiles. Yeah, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And so besides a snake, what's your favorite animal? And why is a snake your favorite, you think? I don't know. I don't know. I sometimes wish it could be like kittens or something that's normal. I don't know why. But you feel just like grounded or drawn. to them for some reason.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Some, whatever reason, it's since I was little. What do you say to people who are absolutely terrified of snakes? Oh, I respect it. Right. My mother is deathly afraid of snakes. So I feel like I was a punishment for her for something she did in her life. But I have a huge respect for it. People tell me all the time, oh, I killed the snake.
Starting point is 00:20:18 That's fine. Most people do. You know, I'm not going to hold it against you. But I have helped a lot of people overcome their fear of snakes with the snakes that I have. So that's a really cool thing. So I, let me, I've seen you, I've seen you, because I follow you. I am a freaking fan. You've been bit and the blood's coming out.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So like on the three million thing, you were bit in the blood. You did not even seem to care that you were bit by the water snake. What's like, what's the, either the most dangerous bite or the one you're like, holy shit. I can't believe I just got bit by that. Tell us that story. Well, it really, it was the 14 footer that. But I got bitten on the hand. Actually, so that was, I couldn't believe it because she went to bite.
Starting point is 00:21:02 There were four of us. She was so hard. She was huge. She was hard to get. And she went to bite someone behind me. And I stuck my hand out in front of her to block it. I don't know why. And so I think I surprised her as much as I surprised myself.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And I was like, oh, man. So then it's just bleeding everywhere. So it's like throwing yourself in front of a bullet to save someone's life. Wow. She's a hero. I'm okay we'll go with that okay but I did I actually got bitten on the butt oh that was the most embarrassing one because it was a day we were all out we got seven pythons on these islands which is unheard of we brought them all back to Everglades holiday park to kind of show the people because
Starting point is 00:21:44 most of the time people aren't even going to see a python so we have these seven pythons they're kind of everywhere I have this little one that's probably seven feet long and it's just really nippy and just keeps trying to bite me. And so I have to keep holding it out. Of course, I could have grabbed it behind the neck, but we were putting on a little show, so whatever. So all of a sudden, this other python comes booking in front of me. Somebody lost it.
Starting point is 00:22:07 So I bend down to pick it up. And so my arm goes back behind me. The python gets me in the butt. Oh, yeah. And I was like, oh, my gosh. And somebody got a picture of right after it bit me, and somebody got a video of when it happened. And it just, and I didn't even know this until later.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I had nine puncture marks on my butt. And this girl came up to me. And she goes, I just want to let you know that you have blood on your pants. And as a woman, you never want somebody to tell you that. Right. But I never thought it would be because I got bitten in the ass by Python. I love that. So do Python, when they bite you, do they immediately release or do you have to move their head up because
Starting point is 00:22:49 their teeth are a certain way? That is a great question. So, yes, their teeth are very curved. But these are all defensive bites, so they just strike. They don't view us as food. They're not trying to hold on and kill us or anything. So they're just trying to get away. So they're just going to strike and take off.
Starting point is 00:23:05 So very rarely will they hold on and try to eat you? Correct. What do they like to eat the most? Well, it depends on the size of the Python, but it's everything from squirrels, waiting birds, possums, raccoons, bobcats, deer. One big-ass pie-thes. Python can eat a whole deer. We found one with a dough and two fons in her at the same time.
Starting point is 00:23:26 That's a big stomach. Yes. So how long was that python? She wasn't even, I think she was 16 feet. She wasn't even. Oh my God, you're kidding me. So their jaws must open up like crazy. They unhinged that snake that I caught, the 17 footer.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah. I'd be an easy snack for her. So, yeah, they could eat people if they wanted, but they don't like to eat people. We're not on the menu. We taste funny. I guess. So, Dube, so one thing you just said to me, you said I worked nightshifts. So talk to me a little bit about the organization you work for.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Maybe what's the good stuff that they can do? And is there a website or is there something for the good that we can promote for you that maybe our listeners can go and donate $25, $50, $100 because you're speaking to them and they're wanting to know more. What would you suggest that we do? Well, I would say the National Parks Alliance, would be a great place to donate. They fund all of the South Florida Parks
Starting point is 00:24:23 and help keep this program going. Now, I actually worked for the South Florida Water Management District. Okay. And they started with 25 people as kind of an experimental program with these pythons, and it was so successful that they hired 25 more. And that's where I, so I was a second group of 25. Okay. And then they hired 50 more after that, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:24:47 There's 100 python hunters. There's 100 of us, and that's going to be all. There's 15 of us are women. Right. So it's a pretty cool thing. We're kind of in this elite group. Like, we're the only ones in the world. That is all.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Do you want to go outside of the Everglades to hunt in a different spot, and where would that be? We just go where the pythons are. And thankfully, the pythons are not too far north yet. I mean, we found them at the southern tip of Lake Okeechobee, which is a little, still it's in the middle of the state but kind of the southern part so they're not they're not up north yet so um tell me about day shift versus night shift sure i think that being a python hunter would scare the crap out of me i think i would want to be day shift um and then i think about night shift my god doing this in the night what let let's number one what's the difference but number
Starting point is 00:25:44 two, let's just walk through when you punch the clock and tell us what that's like to be a python hunter for eight hours a day. Sure. Sometimes it's longer. Sometimes it's not. In the summer, the pythons are nocturnal because it's so hot during the day. And so what we do, I will start it, you know, dusk. And sometimes I go by myself. Sometimes I have assistance with me that are approved. Sometimes I go with other contractors. And we'll decide a meeting place. And, you know, I've got my truck. I've got my light pack on it. I've got, you know, lights inside, ready to go.
Starting point is 00:26:20 So we meet at a place, either go down the regular road, go down a levee. You know, everyone jumps in the back. There's a driver. And we just go about five to ten miles an hour down the roads, spotting pythons. I mean, that's what we do. So do you have binoculars or do you just use your raw eyes? We just use our eyes. And so in the day when you don't have light, you're just doing the same thing, patrolling.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Is the car going five miles an hour? So in the day, so in the winter is their breeding season and they're not very active. They are back in the woods doing their breeding thing. So we actually have to go to them and not very many are caught in the winter. So we take these boats and canoes to the different islands and what we call jungle busting. And I mean, I've got bruises and I'm bleeding and it's hard work. And, you know, at the end of the day, it's just crazy. And but, you know, you come upon a breeding ball and you get five pythons in one shot and they're not small.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And so that's the difference. So the summer and the night shift are the most lucrative. Right. That's when they're active. And then I've seen you cutting open pythons that have hundreds of eggs in them. And you skin the pythons. That's kind of your thing out of the hundred people. Are you like the chief skinning person?
Starting point is 00:27:36 There are a few of us. There are a few of us that do that. And if you would have told me that I would be skinning pythons four years ago, I've been like you're out of your mind. And then what do you do with the eggs? Well, I throw them out. Right. My friend Donna uses them to make cookies and brownies and stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Oh, really? Yes. Now, they're okay. Uh-huh. I don't think they're awesome. Right. But that's just me. But so they're like almost like a chicken eggs.
Starting point is 00:28:01 It's a mucus inside of a shell type thing. It's more like lemon meringue coming out, like cream. It's not like the yolk and white. It's the size of potato. potatoes, you know, huge eggs. Well, that sounds disgusting. Yeah. Lunch, please.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So let's talk about what's it like or what was it like to skin your first python. What's the process? Do you cut off the head, cut off the tail? And then talk to us a little bit about the magic you make with the python skins after you're done. So I do have a good story about the first python that I skinned. First of all, what I did, because you had mentioned earlier, pythons don't pay like houses whatsoever. I had to kind of figure out how am I going to make some money? And I heard some people skin.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And I just wanted to see is it worth it? So I called around and, you know, anyways, decided that, yeah, I think I can get into this. Well, turns out only like four tanners in the United States even tan the way that it needs to be done. Nobody would skin. So I have to get this figured out myself. Hold on. What's a tanner? Oh, to turn into leather.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Oh, okay. I got you. tannery. And so I had this 11-foot snake. I was ready to go. I live in a condo, right? So I have to be really careful because I've got a bunch of snowbirds. And I don't want them to be like, oh my god, there's snakes there. So I have to do this after dark on my lanai. I have this guy that's coming over. He told me he was going to teach me how to skin. So I've got this all set up. And I call him, I'm like, dude, where are you? He said, oh, yeah, I can't make it. what am I supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:29:42 I've got this 11-foot Python that I can't put in the freezer because it doesn't fit. I don't have a big freezer. So I have to YouTube it. So it was alive at the time? No, no, no, no, it was dead. It was dead. Okay. How do you kill a snake real quick?
Starting point is 00:29:53 With a captive bolt gun in the brain. Like a cower pig, you know, they have the bolt that goes in there. Okay. So I said, all right, so I have to YouTube this. Well, there's no YouTube videos on Skinny Python. Wow. At least at the time. There were rattlesnakes and water snakes.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And trust me when I tell you, it's not the same. Yeah. And so I, but I tried to do, I'm telling you two and a half hours, it looks like a scene from Dexter. I am cussing, I'm sweating. It was the worst experience ever. And then the worst part is, so I had to time this with the dumpster, you know, with the trash pickup, because I can't let the smelly carcass be in Florida. My eye will definitely be in trouble by the HOA.
Starting point is 00:30:35 So I go to throw this thing out. I can't. it's like 60 pounds, right? So I can't hold the thing open and throw it in. So I had to climb on the recycling, then open it up. So I'm, I was like, no. With a bloody snake bag. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 It was awesome. It was awesome. And so you did it by guts? Or did you say, let's go with the rattlesnake YouTube video and try it from there? Oh, yeah, I did that. And it was horrible. So I said, there's got to be a better way. So I did find a guy up in Ocala.
Starting point is 00:31:04 He said, I got it. I'll teach you how to do it. I've been doing it for years. So I took 12 snakes. up to him. He showed me how to do it. Sweet. Awesome. Right. So now I know.
Starting point is 00:31:12 How long does it take you to skin a snake? Well, it depends on the size. If it's like, say, an average 8 to 10 footer, it'll take from skinning and fleshing, you have to scrape while the flesh off after you skin it about 20 minutes. Okay. But if it's a big snake, like the 17 footers, we truck skin it. So we hook it up to like two trucks. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:32 And just pull the skin right off. Really? That takes a lot less than 20 minutes. It takes about 30 seconds. It's awesome. God, do you have a film on that? I do, but they're really strict with what I can post. And I'm not really allowed to post that.
Starting point is 00:31:47 PETA probably wouldn't like that, right? No. Is PETA against you? Oh, my God, yes. Yes. And so what's that like? Have they ever threatened to sue you? Do they send you letters?
Starting point is 00:31:58 Not me. It's the people that you work for, which is a government entity. Yeah. Which they're against the government quite a bit. For sure. Right. So is this organization that you're a part of? Is it in danger of being taken out at all?
Starting point is 00:32:15 No, not at the moment. Our governor, Ron DeSantis, just gave another $3 million to get rid of the pythons. Yeah. Wow. And the dude does not like pythons at all. It's so funny because we were at a, I don't know, press conference or something, and they had a big python. And he was just, like, looking at it, like, keep that thing away from me.
Starting point is 00:32:35 It was awesome. I don't know him. I don't know him personally. Do you know anybody famous because of this? Has anybody reached out to you that you're like, oh my God, I can't freaking believe this. No, not yet. I've gotten, I've taken some people out that are kind of like YouTube famous in Florida, and they've got a lot of followers that way.
Starting point is 00:32:52 But nobody, I always thought that that would be really fun to, you know, have somebody really famous going to Python hunt. Right. Yeah, we've got a few. Joey Mullinar needs to do this. Joe, if you're listening, he's with Barstool Sports. He came on. He's fun.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Lots of Twitter followers. He would be the perfect coward to come out and try to hunt Python with you. I think that would be so fun. All right. So you got the snake skinned. Is there a price per foot when you go, okay, the skin's three square feet. I'm going to be able to make X amount of dollars per. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Like, how do you price a snake? Well, that's a great question because we're the pioneers of this. Right. You know, nobody knows. Nobody has actually. sold Florida Python leather before. Right. I mean, Asian Python leather is one thing, and you can get that for 20 bucks a meter.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Okay. This sells for about $35 a foot because it's so expensive for us to even get it. Sure. Catch them, skin them, tan them. You know, if we did 20 bucks a meter, I mean, there's no possible way. Interesting. So, you know, I make the most money comes from the products. That's how you, you know, the most net.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Show us your beautiful band. Jason. I don't know if you got a remote thing, but you see her gorgeous little bracelet. So for all of you guys that are no shortages supply, can you order these and have them in by Christmas for us people in Indiana? Yeah, so just go to Pythonhunters.com, order your Python accessories. Yep. And I think people would be like, what the hell is this? I can dig it and say listen to the Get Attitude podcast.
Starting point is 00:34:29 You're going to hear all about it. You know, it's cool because you are actually saving the environment and helping the environment done in Florida by, purchasing these because it just helps us. Right. Amy Cee, into the swamp, Python Hunter. So is into the swamp something or is that just the... That's just what I put on there. And so you go literally into the swamp, snakes freaking everywhere, and you're not
Starting point is 00:34:51 afraid at all. I'm not afraid. And it's not really what I thought. I thought it was going to be, I'm going to jump in the swamp and pull out all these snakes. I didn't even catch one for the first six weeks I was there. Wow. Well, I didn't know it was the worst time of year to go, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Right. And so... Yeah, those are awesome. Look, those are beautiful. Pretty cool. Yeah. Eye watches and all that stuff. Nicely done.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Thank you. Okay. Yeah, working on some more products that we're going to get up. I thought these would sell for a lot more. So these are really, really a good deal. A couple hundred bucks and you're good. What if, so what happens, let's say some guys listening is like, damn, I want to do what she does?
Starting point is 00:35:28 What would they do? Contact who? Well, if they're in Florida, that's a start. Mm-hmm. They would probably go on the FWC or South Florida Water Management District website. They're not hiring, right? They're only hiring to replace people that have either left or been fired because as big as the Everglades are, there's only so many places that we can find them. And so if we have more than 100, it's going to get too crowded out there.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Do you guys have a Christmas party? We don't. But it would be a lot of fun. Do you love your fellow 100 and like what's their attitude? Are they granola? Are they nutballs? Are they a whole mix match of people? Is there one attitude trait that runs through them? So there are all kinds. All kinds. And I like the majority of them. Yes. Of course. That's how it always is right. Now, I will tell you this funny story. I went with Jane, one of my friends now, and she's a hunter. She was one of the originals.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And we were hunting a few months ago. And she said, you know, Amy, when you first got here, nobody liked you. I was like oh okay that's cool and she said we were just like why is this girl coming from Indiana to catch pythons like what an idiot right and I said yeah well you know I mean I can see that I got that a lot it's cool and she said
Starting point is 00:36:46 but you showed us you knew what you were doing you caught the snakes you got I mean she's like we all like you now but I thought that was really interesting because you know I didn't pick up on it I didn't care right even if you know I would have known but you know I went into this all blind.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Sure. Completely. I had no idea with the dynamic of anything is. I didn't even know FWC was different than the parks,
Starting point is 00:37:10 different than South Ford Water Management. I had no idea about any of this. So I just went in guns ablazing. You know, I came from real estate. So I was going 24-7 to not having a job and not really even knowing
Starting point is 00:37:23 how to look for pythons. And so I just started calling people, hey, who do I need to know? Who can tell me this? Who can help me? Who do I need to talk to? And I met a lot of, pretty important people that I didn't realize were important at the time.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And now looking back, I'm glad I didn't know. I'm glad I was naive because it might have, as far as the attitude, I might have been a little more cautious about calling them. Because the superintendent in the parks, he's like God to South Florida Parks, apparently. And I went up to him in a fundraiser. I was there for a week, and I don't even know how I got invited to this thing. and I said, this Python program is ridiculous. Nobody knows anything.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Nobody can tell me how I get hired. So I'm going on. How much booze did you have in yet? I didn't even have any yet, right? Thank God, because it would have been way worse. And so he said, wait a minute, what? He said, no, that's not right. I said, it is right.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I've been here trying to get this figured out, and nobody can tell me anything. And he said, okay, well, we need to get together. Are you kidding me? Yeah. You walked right up to the lead dog. Yep. See, well, sometimes not knowing is better than knowing, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Absolutely. So Amy Ceewee, the Python hunter, she's been so good. I appreciate you unraveling. And I think that last point is so big. And Gappers, look at, I wanted Amy on here because I know that three out of four people are not following their dream. And chances are it's 90 out of 100 are not following their dream. And I just wanted you to meet Amy so you could say, you know what? I've got to sit with somebody that left it all behind and said I'm going to go challenge.
Starting point is 00:38:59 and I'm going to go grab my destiny and I'm going to go find the number one person in an organization, tell them their stuff's full of shit and move on. Sometimes, guys, we got to do it. When you talk about following and going after your passion and your dream, this gal has done it. So, Amy, we're going to close this podcast with what we always do with a little exercise called Knowledge Through the Decades. And I'm going to walk you through your life as long as you'll let me. You don't have to admit how old you are, but it would be nice because that's kind of what we try to do. Right now?
Starting point is 00:39:33 You don't have to know. I'm 44. Oh, okay. So we can go to 40 then, which is good. So I want you to walk through your life with us, and I want you to tell us what the attitude lesson is at each decade of your life. I want you to think back, right? Because a lot of times what you learned is something that we can also learn. And so I know that you probably don't remember being born, but when you think about birth or when you think about watching the birth,
Starting point is 00:39:57 of snakes or if you think about you being born, what do you think the attitude lesson is of birth or new life? Wow, we're getting heavy here. That's a big one. It doesn't need to be heavy. You can make fun of it, too. Well, I don't know. Like the attitude, the first thing that I thought of was when I used to breed snakes,
Starting point is 00:40:15 they would come out of the little eggs just fighting mad. Like, they're like, I got this. They're so tiny and they just think they can take on the world. Okay. And I think that I can actually relate to that a little bit because of stories my parents have told me, you know, when I was little, I was kind of like, mom's like, don't touch that. I'm like, watch me. I have a granddaughter Jane that does that. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, there you go. So your attitude, and I love that that you brought it in when you look at it is just the
Starting point is 00:40:44 inherent fight that is involved with new birth. So let's go to 10. Were you in Indianapolis? I was in Dayton. You're in Dayton, Ohio. And so do you remember? remember your third or fourth grade teacher and then like in third or fourth grade what was the attitude lesson you learned did something happened to you did you know I don't know whatever it is but think back about you know being 10 and what your attitude lesson was then when I was 10 I was in the creeks looking for snakes right and I was recruiting my friend to come with me and we were you know they of course were very reluctant and I was like oh it's fine and I remember I was bitten by a snake
Starting point is 00:41:28 by this little bitty, now I know it was a northern water snake, totally harmless, but I didn't know. And I was bleeding. And I was like, my dad's going to kill me because I just got bitten by a venomous snake. Like, he's going to kill me and then I'm going to die. And so I didn't want to tell. And, you know, my friend and I were like gauging how I felt all day long and, you know, seeing if it was swelling to see if I was going to die. And so then I went to my dad finally and I said, dad, I think,
Starting point is 00:41:58 I got bitten by a venomous snake. And he said, well, when? I said this morning, he's like, let me see. He's like, I think you're going to be okay. He said, don't worry about it. I said, I thought you were going to be really mad at me. He said, no, it's cool. And I don't know, for some reason, that just, it was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And I don't even really know what the lesson was, but it was just something that I've always remembered. Interesting. And I've just always taken it with me. Like, it's cool. Got it. Well, it probably, when we look at the human emotional need certainty is one of these big things why people do things.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And your father probably gave you the certainty that it takes to go pee a freaking python hunter because most people would see hunting snakes is a very uncertain, you know, way to live. So, well, that's a very interesting story. Now, did you have another friend that loved it too? And are pythons lethal? Like, are they? No, they're not venomous.
Starting point is 00:42:52 No, they're constrictors. Right. They'll just squeeze you to death. Yeah. Yeah. And no, I really, growing up, I didn't have any other friends that were like that. I mean, I did, but, you know, it was, it was kind of weird that I was this girl and I like snakes. I think it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:07 All right. So let's go. You're at the University of Toledo at 20, right? And so, like, what was going on with you at 20? What were you like? And what was the attitude lesson you had when you were 20 or 21? Jeez, you know, this is all revolving around snakes. Well, of course.
Starting point is 00:43:23 You're the python hunters. Well, it's just so weird how it just goes through my whole life. So at 20, I had, well, I was volunteering at the Toledo Zoo, which was amazing. And I had a whole lot of pets in a no-petts apartment, including iguanas, ferrets, snakes. You're one of those tenants. Yeah, well, you know, not anymore. I don't have anything right now, but I own my house. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Anyway. So what was, well, I just definitely drank a lot. Yeah. So I'm sure I learned a lot of lessons with that. We're not mad at you. I think, let's see, the attitude, here is actually something that I have referred to, because I told you about Jack Canfield and when I said, you know, I was going to be catching anaconda's in the Amazon in five years.
Starting point is 00:44:11 When I was at an interview class, my senior year in college, we had to break out in groups and, you know, we would have to go interview with all of these people that ran companies, our peers. And I remember the one guy said, so what do you want to be doing in five years? I said, I want to be catching anacondas in the Amazon. And he said, you want what? And I said, yeah. He said, okay, you're hired for his little fake company. But I think it was just like being who I was and being freaking weird to most people.
Starting point is 00:44:43 But it's okay because I think people respected that I owned it and this is who I am. And I'm not going to apologize. I mean, again, if it could be kittens, I'd be great. But it's not at snakes. So let's just roll with it. I think being your authentic self is a lesson and an attitude that everybody that's listening to this podcast right now, your exercise after you listen to this is, am I really my authentic self? Or am I just a shadow of who I really am? And am I afraid to show myself to the world and when is it time for you to unleash your authentic self on everybody else?
Starting point is 00:45:20 So that's pretty awesome. Let's go to 30. My guess is you were selling real estate at 30. Do you remember your 30th birthday? And what was going on in your world? What was your attitude at 30? Actually, at 30, I was almost getting divorced, I think. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Oh, no, that was a new guy. All right. Yeah, so. Divorce. Let's talk about the divorce. We don't have to. No, I mean, it's fine. We just never probably should have been married.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I was married for five years. Right. And he didn't, I mean, really like snakes, but, you know, he thought it was cool that I mean, I had 50 of them. That does not check the box. Whoops. Right. Do you even understand after I got divorced? I was so tired of going on dates and people were like, oh, my God, snakes that I put that picture with me and with all the snakes as my, like, main, whatever, match, Tinder, whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Right. Just to be like, okay, they're like them or don't. I'm not going to waste my time. Yeah. Deal with it. It's probably good to get that out there in front. It's crossed that bridge earlier. Oh my God, he's perfect, but he's a total wussy.
Starting point is 00:46:23 He doesn't like snakes. So I think my lesson in my 30s, because I spent, you know, I've been single since then, but it's, you know, I was very good. I really found my footing in real estate. I really, you know, when I went to Keller Williams, it was a game changer. If I would have gone to Florida after I made this video, because that Lake Erie video was 11 years ago, 12 years ago, I never would have made it Because I had no idea how to run a business, how to network.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I didn't know anything. I was just very green. And the other companies that I worked for just didn't really teach me a lot of that. And so I actually had a business mindset. And I learned so much that it prepared me and allowed me to trust myself. Cool. To just get to Florida. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And get it figured out. Yeah. So the attitude lesson there was create the business mindset, have a mentor, copy them, which is attitude booster number five, the answers are there. And maybe in order for you to make the leap, and this may be the message for the gappers, as you look to become your authentic self and jump towards your destiny quite often,
Starting point is 00:47:34 and just what Amy said is, you know what, the answers may already be there. But we just may be suppressing them. We may not be exploring them. So that could be your second thing to do after this podcast is what are the answers that I have to make this change in my life that would be good. So let's go to 40.
Starting point is 00:47:51 That was four years ago. And what was going on four years ago? Is this, you know, I know you've been doing the Python thing for more than four years right now? Nope. No, two and a half. Oh. Wait, let's see, March of 2019, I moved. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Right before the pandemic. Yeah, good timing. Now, I'm guessing COVID probably didn't slow you guys down. No, no. We kept doing our thing. Yeah. Python's were like, COVID what? Yeah, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:17 So talk to us about being 40. Do you remember turning 40? Kind of like what was in your head and what was going on? I spent my 40th birthday in Marco Island because my birthday is December 29th and I went in a pool party. Oh. And I don't think I knew about the pythons yet. And so I had a bunch of my college friends and Dave. We all came down and ran into a house with the pool so I could have a pool party on my 40th.
Starting point is 00:48:41 That's cool. And I remember sitting there outside on my birthday. in shorts and flip-flops. It was like, yeah. So this is going on in parts of the United States, not in Indiana. I can actually sit here on my birthday in flip-flops. Right. So I think really that started, you know, it was kind of like the another piece to everything
Starting point is 00:49:06 just falling into place when it did. It was like, I got to move. I got to get out of any cold Indiana. Right. You know, I had no idea or intention that it was going to be so soon. but I think that started getting those wheels. Well, I would say that sun and sand can be an attitude booster. Oh my gosh, all day long, all day long.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And I will tell you about this. I realized, after I'd been here probably about four or five months, that something I said in Indiana almost every day, sometimes twice a day, is I hate this effing weather. Right. And I did not say that one time, and I haven't said that one time since I've been down there. It totally changes your attitude, at least for me. everything about how I do things.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I very rarely meet people when they go to scrape ice off the car, go, God, I love this freaking weather. This is so good. But it is self-talk and another great attitude lesson, right? It's like, okay, guys, if you're up north, it's going to be cold. What are you saying about the cold?
Starting point is 00:50:04 Can you turn that negative into positive right now? Amy Cee, you have been an absolute awesome guest so enthralling, so deep. I love it. Way to bring something to the gap that nobody else has. I really, really enjoyed this. One thing I just like you to do is just talk to our listeners if you can. And just if you want to, give them a message of hope or what's your
Starting point is 00:50:30 thoughts for the future or if somebody's listening to you right now. Now is the time, just, you know, tell them, you know, hey, guys, this is the attitude that I've had that maybe do whatever. But just send whatever personal message you like to our Gappers, if that's not. not too much pressure on you. No, no, not at all. Well, I think the big thing is figure out how you respond to fear. That's a, I realized a few years ago that I respond by making excuses. I'm not afraid of snakes, dying, you know, all the things that people are usually afraid of.
Starting point is 00:51:06 But when I'm, you know, faced with achievement or business or something that I'm just not quite sure about, I start making excuses. And I realized that. And I said, oh, wait a minute. You afraidy cat, just do it. You're afraid, right? But the thing was, when I moved to Florida, not one excuse. Not that I didn't have a job. I didn't even know if they were hiring.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I had to share a bathroom with the guy's dad from the house that I, the room that I rented. Because five hours away, he told me that the guy wasn't moving out of the room that I was supposed to rent, but he had another house. but I'd have to share a bathroom with his dad. Oh. That wasn't even an excuse. Yes. So I think that that's a big thing.
Starting point is 00:51:50 When you find out what your response is to fear, you can kind of start to conquer it a little bit. And then you also know when you're truly not afraid of something and you're just like, let's do this. I love it. Well, we were not afraid to have you on the Get Attitude podcast. Gaffers, this is the great Amy C. We check her out at Pythonhuntress.com. If you guys want to get some attitude, she's going to give you some. attitude when you watch it do not live in fear live in hope live with attitude live with passion this
Starting point is 00:52:21 is glen bill from the get attitude podcast we'll see you on the next episode thank you

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