KGCI: Real Estate on Air - From Amish Life to Real Estate Entrepreneurship
Episode Date: February 1, 2026Summary:This episode is a highly inspirational and unique conversation with an individual who successfully transitioned from a completely traditional Amish lifestyle to the modern world of re...al estate entrepreneurship. The discussion focuses on the transferable skills of discipline, hard work, community-building, and resilience that were foundational to the Amish life and proved crucial for business success. It emphasizes the power of unwavering work ethic and commitment to one's goals. While it lacks specific real estate tactics, it provides a powerful mindset and motivational framework for leveraging discipline to achieve extraordinary results.
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This episode of Gogopreneur, I have the privilege of interviewing Lizzie Anz.
I accidentally started following her, and then I just couldn't stop watching all of her videos about the Amish culture.
And in Gokopreneur, I feel like there's so many different type of entrepreneurs in this world.
So that's what I want to do.
I want to interview all of these different types of entrepreneurs and see how we all fit into this puzzle of entrepreneurship.
So today, I want to interview Lizzie to find out how do you go from the Amiens?
Amish culture to be a very successful entrepreneur.
And today she's taking advantage of what she learned in her culture and she turned it into
a business.
So today she's a dietitian.
She is a nutritional advisor.
She's a health coach.
And I wanted to have her on here to walk through the process of how do you go from an Amish
life to be a very successful entrepreneur with hundreds of thousands of followers and
using social media as your average.
you, I guess. I can't remember the word in English as your, let's do that, right? Because if you
think about it in the Amish life, like there's not even cell phones, not a lot to use social
media for your advantage. So I'm super excited to figure out how does her brain work. How do you,
I always talk about learning things and unlearning things and sometimes it's more important
to unlearn things than it is to learn things. So I want to see how did that happen in Lizzie's life.
So let's get to know her.
Lizzie, come on it.
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Lizzie, I am so excited that you hear today.
I want to cover so much.
We have an hour together, hopefully.
So let's get to it, right?
But I want to cover so much because I find your existence in the entrepreneurial world such, so different.
Like you have to go through so many, you had to unlearn, you know, so many things to be who you are today.
So first of all, last one at the very end, who is Lizzie today?
And then I want to ask all kinds of questions.
How did you get to be Lizzie ends today?
Okay.
So if you and me met at a bar, not in an Amish bar, but in a bar.
Because those things don't exist, right?
If you met it, I always don't can say, if you met in an airport bar and you introduced yourself and I'm like, hey, who are you? What would you say?
Well, first of all, I'm former Amish is one of the things that I would say because that is a thing that really gets people in and it like connects them.
Now, I don't always lead with that. But if I met you at a bar, I'd be like, yeah, I'm I, I'm an author. I have a published book. I'm a board sort of like health and wellness coach.
But those are just titles. Like who I am is like an absolute.
advocate for people. And I want people to have self-sufficiency and learn how to be more sustainable and
healthier. And also, I'm a mom to an amazing five-year-old. And so one of the things that I like to
tell people and also practice myself is like your titles are just part of your life and who you are,
but it doesn't define you. There's so much more to you or and myself than just the title. So who are you,
aside from that. I'm someone that loves to travel, have fun and laugh, and go do all kinds of
spontaneous things. So that is... So how did that start in the Amish world? So where were you born and
raised and how long did you stay there and what made you leave? Yeah. So I was born and raised in the
strictest order of the Amish community that you can grow up in. So there's very, there's many, many
different sets of the Amish community. But I was I was born and raised in the strictest order
you can grow up in, which is you don't have any indoor plumbing. There's no running water.
There's no electricity. There's no. Basically indoor plumbing means like you're you don't have
a bathroom in the house. You are if you have to go to a bathroom, you have to go to the outhouse
outside like completely different. And I that's how I spent all the summer. So I originally from
from Transylvania, Romania.
And even though I was raised in the city on a high rise,
every summer we spent in the villages with my grandparents, right?
And so they had running water,
but there was no bathroom inside,
and there was no hot water, there was no water heater.
We heated everything on a stove, right?
They used a wood, not a gas stove, a wood stove,
and every room had its own wood stove and all of that.
So I feel like I've been Amish a little bit.
You're like living off the land.
Yeah, exactly.
Everything, my grandparents grew everything in the backyard, besides like salami and even sugar.
Like they traded weeds for sugar.
They traded corn for corn flour or cornmeal, right?
They traded wheat for wheat flour.
Like they just, they made their own stuff, right?
All the fruits and vegetables came from the backyard.
We canned everything for the summer.
I wish I paid more attention to how to actually do it because not that good today.
I have to call my mom for everything, right?
But like I remember when I met my husband, like the way I drink tea is we would go to the forest or the fields and we would collect the herbs and we would take it home and we would dry them, right? And then we would boil them in water and that's your tea. And I met an American, totally American, like as American as someone can be, right? So the first time I'm making tea, which is like my loose herbs and I'm throwing it in a path with hot water, my husband looks at me and he goes, is that legal?
you have never made tea in your life like for him tea is this this motion of a little thing in your bag
yeah right and then you dip it into hot water and i was like why do you realize what's in the bag
in the bag is the herbs i'm just doing it without the bag like there's like i went and collected my
herbs i collect my outer flowers every single summer like i did a video recently we moved to florida
and i was like oh my gosh it's an outer flower bush right because it looks different everything was
different Florida. So I was in the side of the highway. Literally made my husband pull over and I'm there like,
you know, fit my grocery bag. Yeah, like you're, you're not going to get any better tea because
the thing, the, a lot of the tea bags have chemicals in them. So like we, we grew our own tea
and then there's like wild stuff to you. Now I want to go plant my own tea garden now.
So I literally have, I have my mint and it goes wild, right? So,
I have to dig up a portion of every year because it just grows wild.
But I just cut it and I'm literally drying mint right now for the winter upstairs.
So I feel like I have a little bit of your Amish culture.
It just wasn't called Amish.
It was just called, you know, Hungarian.
Right.
You probably didn't.
You probably didn't have to live with all the rules of the church and have to dress.
No, no.
So that's actually the very first video that the internet introduced you to me with was when you were
explaining your Amish outfit of all of the pins.
all of that and I was like, how do you not poke yourself?
You do.
Like, how does the hanky-panky happen?
And I'm like, okay, hold down, honey.
Let me pull out all my needles before they poke me.
Like, I can't even.
So I have so many questions for you.
Okay, so you were born and raised in a very, very strict Amish culture.
How long did you live there?
19 years of my life.
What made you even think to leave?
Yeah, I mean, I started thinking about leaving when I was in my early teens.
because I just felt something in my spirit and my soul was like drawing me somewhere else.
And I'm a visionary.
Like I if I don't see and feel myself somewhere, I don't want to be there.
And so for me, like the women in the community are very much like, hey, we're going to get married and have lots of babies and be a home, you know, homemaker, right?
And I could never see that.
Like my mom had 19 kids.
And so she probably doesn't even know you left yet.
Just kidding.
Oh, that's funny.
I never had anybody say that.
That's so funny.
Hopefully she realized you left, right?
I know she did because I watch your videos and I know that they no longer talk to even though you get to that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But now, like I just always had this draw.
And my question.
and everything. So I really gave my mom a run for her money because I would ask her all kinds of stuff,
like, why is it that women can't cut their hair? And her answer was always, well, that's just the
way it is. And I would ask all these questions, like, why these rules? Like, I literally would think,
I think to myself, there is no way that the church can come up with more rules that we have to follow.
And then sure enough, they did. And I'm like, how is this possible? And so I, I, so I, I,
so clearly remember this one conversation i had with my mom there was a lady that so we sold a lot
of things from our farm like fresh eggs strawberries i was that we did obviously yeah yeah all kinds of
stuff and there was this one customer that would come to our house and she was a believer in god
she believed in jesus and she would talk about it freely like she she talked about her faith and i
And the Amish believe that you were born in not all of them now, but this is what it was when I live there in my community.
And I'm not, I'm sure there's still some that believe this way, but not, I don't believe that everybody still believes this way.
However, when I was there, they believe that if you're born in the Amish community, this is where you're supposed to be.
And if you leave, there's no way that you would ever get to heaven because you've deserted everything that you, that the Amish community.
church has taught you and you walked away from your faith and where God placed you, all of those
things. And they also believe that Amish were the only people that would go to heaven. And I thought
to myself, they have to keep you somehow in that. Right. Yeah. But I remember going,
why in the world would God create so many other people only to not have them be able to get to
heaven. And then they believe that if you cut your hair, you're as a woman, you certainly,
most certainly can't get heaven because that's against the Bible.
This is the key that's going to open heaven's pearly gates.
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, oh. I know, I did the, I did the same thing. Like,
I have so many questions to God, right? Like, even just you look at the, the Bible,
the Old Testament says, you know, an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.
Right, New Testament says, if you throw stone, I throw bread.
I'm like, okay, which one am I supposed, am I supposed to be nice?
Am I supposed to take the knife out of my back and throw it back into yours, right?
Also, if like Adam and Eve had two sons, then what happened?
Yeah. Yeah, well, a lot of those.
I have questions.
I just like you, I like to understand things.
And if it's, if the math is not mathing, then I have questions.
Yeah, and it's good to have questions. If you don't have questions, you're not growing. So, but I, to move forward with that, I asked my mom one time this, this lady that was talking about God and her faith, she had really short hair. And so one day, she left and I asked my mom, I said, so just because, so even though she believes in God and she's an amazing person, but just because she cuts her hair, she can't go to heaven.
And my mom's answer was, well, that's just the way it is.
And I said, heck no.
I said, I'm not on board with that belief.
I cannot, I cannot believe that.
There's no way that that's true.
And so I was a rebel.
I pushed a lot of the boundaries.
I couldn't stick with the rules.
And there's a reason for that.
Usually people that have a rebel spirit and they question things.
and they push the boundaries, it's also because we're meant to do greater and bigger things in life.
And we're here to break the chains of the things that we have been told and taught that we need to follow.
And for me, I actually became a member of the church, of the Amish church.
And when you become a member of the Amish church, it means that you got baptized into the church.
And now the whole entire congregation has more control over you.
At what age do you get baptized? Is it a choice or do you get baptized early? Like your parents make that decision or do you make that decision?
It's expected of you to do between the ages of 18 and 19. They do say if you're not ready, don't do it. But then if you don't do it, they think you're a bad person because you're not doing the expected thing. And so I have a twin sister. And her and I, when we were 17, we were the first ones in our entire family.
family to run away and we ran away for two days. And I thought at that point in time,
that was my way out. Like I was all the way out. I'm good. I'm never going back. Well,
we were really close and she got to this point on day two that we were staying at a cousin's
house that had left a few years before. And one of our brothers that was still Amish found out
where we were at. He went to the neighbors. He called the house and my twin picked up the phone
in the kitchen and I picked up the phone in the living room. This is when home phones were a thing.
Yeah. Still, I don't know. Are they still a thing? And she picked up same time I did. She starts
talking and I don't say a word. I just hear what their conversation is. So I'm listening to their
entire conversation. And at the end of that conversation, she tells my brother that they need to come
pick us up that night.
My heart just sank because I was like, I have to go back if she goes back.
Like I can't, I have to follow her.
And so we went back that night and the following day I told her that there's no way I'm staying.
I'm going to leave again one day.
And she was like, yeah, I'm leaving to.
I don't want to stay here.
Well, she's still there.
She got married and she has 11 kids now.
and I left.
So fast forward two years later, the two of us have become members of the church and we've got
baptized in the church.
And then six months after that is when I left.
So how did you even know, I guess, the outside world is the first time when you left?
Like you said you had cousins, but did you get to see them?
Because my understanding is when someone leaves the church, like they're dead to the church, right?
So did you have some sort of a relationship with them or how did you even know where to go?
Yeah, so it really, really varies. So for some people, the family treats them as if they're dead to them. They're not allowed to come home to see the family. There's no connection. Their rule is unless you come home to stay home, you're not allowed here. My family isn't like that. And my cousins who had left, their family wasn't like that either. So on occasion, I would.
run into them somewhere i didn't not very often but also like we didn't live on compounds like
sometimes people think that homage live on compounds and you're like like fenced in and you have
no access to the outside world that's not true our we live on an 88 or farm and our closest
amish neighbors were three miles away everybody else are around us were non-aumish people
and so i would see a lot i didn't go to school correct you were home schooled
We went Amish school. Yeah, I call it Amish school. So we walked three miles to a one-room schoolhouse
every morning and there was maybe 15 to 20 kids in that school and you get taught first through eighth grade
and the teachers are people from the same community. So it is stayed regulated. So you do have to
take tests and graduate and you get a graduation cart. And that graduation cart was very, very important.
because that was a form of identification that I needed in order to get a social security number after I left.
Oh, because you didn't have a social security number.
No.
So, because you guys are not born in a hospital, so there's no record that you exist.
So they get birth certificates, but you can decline a social security number.
So they're not part of the government system.
However, you still get a birth certificate.
Okay.
So we, most of us were born at a birthing center.
She had a doctor and a midwife.
And only one set of, so my mom had three sets of twins and one set of the twins was born
in a hospital.
Other than that, they were born in a birthing center.
So they get birth certificate, but they decline the social security number.
And why is that?
I think that they believe that it's part of the government and they don't want to be, have
anything to do with with the government they don't collect social security they don't do any of that
they don't pay for insurance they don't you know if if for example like my dad died when got killed in a
in an accident when I was 13 by a drunk driver and technically they should have taken the guy to court
they don't go to court um they don't do any of that so so is your mom taking care of the
the whole homestead and all the kids by yourself
she did yeah so there when my dad when my dad got killed at 45 my mom was left my oldest sister was
married at the time and so there was 18 of us still at home now the thing is is i have six older
brothers and i was 13 at the time so from the age of 13 up to like 20 where i had six older
brothers in that age range so they were old enough to like kind of take over the farming and stuff
But it was still a lot on my mom because she still had to, like, raise a lot of kids.
And she did that on her own.
Wow.
So you leave at 19 for the second time, right?
Where do you?
Why and where do you go?
And how did your outside life became?
Yeah.
So I knew from the time that my twin and I had tried to run away and then went back.
From that times, it was two years from from that moment to then when I was leaving.
in that time frame of those two years, I obviously always knew that at some point I was going to leave.
However, in that time frame, I got baptized into the Amish church, got to learn more about how the church on the back end actually works.
I also started dating a guy from New York.
So people are like, how did you meet a guy in New York?
And I'm like, how did you communicate with no phone is what I want to know.
No, you write letters.
We wrote letters to it.
I forgot about that.
I forgot about that age that you can actually handwrite letters.
Well, I always like, we were pen pals.
So we only, so a brother of mine got married to this girl in New York and we all went up there for the wedding.
And then I got introduced to this boy.
He was Amish too?
Yeah, he was Amish too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're not allowed to date outside the Amish community.
And we started dating, but the thing is we had a long distance.
So we had to write letters to each other and then we maybe saw each other twice a year if that like his dad was really really strict
So he wouldn't let him come see me very often
And they don't necessarily get on an airplane correct? No, we we did either charter bus or Greyhound bus to go from state to state
Yeah, yeah because you're not going to go horse and buck you from Ohio to New York. That's what I was like so how long is that ride
for the Greyhound? No, I'm just kidding
if you were doing it on a horse and lucky, right?
Maybe that's what you saw each other every six months because they took your five months to get there.
Five months to get there.
Exactly.
It stopped with the horrors and all that.
But yeah, so by the time that I left, so it was really, really interesting because I actually left with my boyfriend at the time.
So the day that I left, I was not at home where I grew up.
I was at my oldest sister's house and working as a hired mate because that's something that we did as.
teenage girls. We worked as hired mates for other Amish families. And she just had a baby. So I was there
helping her out. And it was really, really interesting because for the month leading up to the time that
I left, I knew that something massive was coming, but I didn't know what it was. I knew there was a
big shift coming. I feel it in my heart, my soul, but I couldn't put my finger on what it was.
And so it was my turn to deliver a letter to my boyfriend. And so I walked up. It was a
noon, I walked up to the mailbox to deliver the letter. And when I opened the mailbox to put the
letter into the mailbox, there was a note in there. And he didn't have an address on it,
but they had my name on it. And I could tell that it was my boyfriend's handwriting. And I was
like, how did this note get in here? There's no address. But it's his handwriting. So I ripped
a note open. And it said, he wrote a note to me and he said, my, my, my, my, my,
sister and her boyfriend and I, we ran away from the Amish community.
We drove down with a mutual friend of ours from New York yesterday.
And we're going to come by tonight at 10 o'clock.
If you want to leave, we'll be here and we'll meet you.
We can meet together.
If you don't want to leave, I'll come by later and we'll talk about it.
And I always joke because I'm like, what are the chances that you are not, not
what your whoever's house you were at would i'm the one not you know right like that's crazy isn't that
crazy so i read that note and as soon as i'm done reading a note i literally within two seconds i
snap my fingers and i say i'm leaving because i knew at that moment of time this was the perfect time
for me to do it and so i go back down and i'm trying to figure out like how am i going to prepare
Like how do I leave? How do I make sure? Nobody knows I'm going to leave. Do I tell anybody that I'm leaving? Because there was a younger sister of mine there visiting that day. And I was like, do I tell her? Do I mention it? And I was like, I can't. I cannot mention it. So I remember when she was leaving, I said some words where I was like, because we didn't use the word, I love you. Like that wasn't so. So yeah. I was raised Amish. I'm just kidding. And there was. And there was.
It didn't happen in my culture either.
In a roundabout way, I was kind of like telling her like, I love her.
And then she left.
And I waited until nighttime.
And every night, everybody would meet in the living room to do prayer and then go to bed.
And so went through all of that.
And then I went upstairs.
I was the only one that was sleeping on the third floor.
And I pretended like I was going to bed.
But as soon as I got into my room, I, like, ripped my covering off.
I let my hair down.
And then I wrote a note to my family and I said, this is nothing to do with anybody here,
but I have to go.
And because I wanted them to know, which is also pretty normal for someone that leased from that community to just leave and not tell anybody and then leave a note.
Like they leave a little note and whatever.
So I did that.
And I already saw that my boyfriend was up on the hill, like, like flashing with his flashing.
So I took my flashlight and I like like lit back and I was like I'm coming like that was like signaling. Yeah, but instead of going down walking back downstairs pretending like I have to go to the outhouse, I was like I can't do that because they may know what I'm up to number one and number two, they'll hear that I never come back in. So instead of doing that, I walk over to the window that's on the third floor and I climb out onto the roof and
And I jump from the roof in a second floor.
Yeah.
So I sit there.
Here's the thing.
I sit there for probably 30 minutes, contemplating how I'm going to jump off this roof.
And also at the same time, I'm remembering that in six months, my twin is getting married.
And if I jump off this roof now, I won't be at her wedding.
So I had a decision to me.
Do I leave now or do I wait six more months to make sure I can be at her wedding and then leave?
And my heart and my intuition told me I would never leave if I did that.
So I finally took a deep breath and I jumped off the 15 foot roof to run away.
And you didn't break any bones.
No, I was so scared because while I was sitting there, I was thinking like if I jump and I break a bone,
I will look like the biggest tool ever and the Amish community is going to go,
that's what you get that god's punishing you you broke a bone because you were trying to run away
but here's something that i learned growing up on the farm is cats it doesn't matter how they just
let that forfeet they like counts and they let every limb in their body lose so they don't and so i'm
like well i'm just going to be a cat and then you jumped you go uphill your boyfriend's waiting for
you and where do you guys go yeah so i run up there
hill, they're waiting, I get in the truck, and our friend that had left a couple years before,
we used to hang out when everybody was still homage. They had a place that was 10 minutes away,
if that, and we all went to his place, and we just hung out there, like, literally all night.
Like, I don't think anybody slept. We were just watching TV, listening to music, doing all the
things we weren't allowed to do. You were not allowed to do. Yeah.
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So where were you born in Rees?
Like what part of the country?
I was in Ohio.
Ohio.
And where do you live today?
In Phoenix, Arizona.
Oh, so you're far.
Yeah.
So do you get to see your family today?
So yeah, yeah.
I go home and I see my mom about once or twice a year.
It just really depends.
Oh, that's awesome.
So you still get to have a relationship with them and your twin?
My twin's still Amish.
She's married.
I haven't seen her in over 11 years.
She doesn't talk to you?
Well, she moved to a different part of Ohio.
And so she's not really close to my mom.
And I used to go visit her in the first few years after I left.
She got married.
I would go visit her husband.
And then they started having kids in the last time that I that I went to visit them.
Her husband told me that I'm never allowed to come back.
So I was like, okay, wish granted, like whatever.
Like if that's what you want.
But you know what's interesting is I'm because I was a member of the church.
I am shunned by the church.
So technically my mom shouldn't be having any kind of like communication with me or anything like that.
And I have three younger siblings.
that also left and none of them are shunned. And she, she treats them quite, quite different than what
she treats me. So she's literally scared just in the recent weeks. I have noticed that she's actually
still scared of the church. And if the church finds out that she's allowing me to come home and visit,
she's afraid that the church will come after her. Yeah. And yet she has no fear with
with my younger siblings because they were not officially baptized into the church yeah they were not
baptizing the church and it's a very interesting thing to navigate through in terms of okay because my
younger siblings don't get it like they they're they don't understand so where where are your
younger siblings at they're all in ohio they are okay they stayed close how did you know how did you
I, Ohio couldn't handle me anymore. I was like, I need to get out of here. So I lived in like
the hub of Amish country at some point. And everybody knew everybody. And I just, I was like, I can't be here
anymore. I cannot, you know, grow and do what I want to do in business. I have an entrepreneur
spirit. I want to like learn and grow and evolve. And one of the things that happened after I left
the Amish communities. I was there's a massive, massive culture shock and I was incredibly shy.
I, I was afraid to tell people where I was from because I didn't want people to think that I
was stupid. I didn't, you know, know, know anything. I, I just, I, I allowed my voice to be
suppressed. My voice was suppressed as an Amish woman. And I allowed my voice to be
suppressed after I left because I was afraid of what people would think. And so,
So I, but one of the things that I started doing after I left is a lot of times people that leave the Amish community, they, they like to kind of surround themselves with other former Amish people because it's comfortable and it's like.
And not everybody's like that.
But I started to see that a lot.
And I was like, I can't only hang out with former Amish people because they can't teach me what I want to learn in this life.
I want to be around other people that didn't grow up in the Amish community.
so I can learn. And so I started to sort of distance myself a little bit and say, I need new friends.
I need new people. And I started to surround myself with other people that didn't grow up in the Amish community,
which was a very, very difficult and hard thing to do because here's the thing. When you go from
being in such a shelter, like culture, atmosphere, community, whatever it is, and you break away from that
and you start hanging out with people that they're lived in the modern world.
They know, you know, cultural things.
They, like, we didn't learn history.
We didn't learn science.
We weren't taught any of those things.
And so I would find myself in conversations with people that I loved.
And they would be having conversations about stuff and I'd pretend like I knew what they
were talking about because I just wanted to feel like I was like a part of something.
And so I did that for a while.
And then moving out of Amish country and going across the country into the West Coast was honestly like the best thing that ever happened to me.
But why did you pick Arizona?
Did you know someone there?
No, no.
No, I knew one person here.
Really?
So at the time, at the time, I was newly married and my former in-laws, they live in California.
And we wanted to go closer to them.
like we're not moving to california let but i wanted to go where it's warm because i didn't like
all the cold so at at the time phoenix was actually one of the places was that was one of the
places in a warm climate that was the closest affordability uh city to where we were living at
it was still like a massive increase in cost of living but it was the closest like if we went to
California or Florida or any of those was the cost of living exponentially went up and so I was
like well the desert sounds nice I've never been there but like let's go check it out so we like
checked it out for five days in January and it rained three days out of five days it's only rain
that guy that's fine I'll still move there so so that's what we did like we moved out west
across the country and I was like best thing that I have
did that's awesome so then how did you become an entrepreneur how did you because i feel so much still
of your arish culture that you kept right and then you pretty much turned it into entrepreneurship as i
see looking into your life like there's so many things that you were like same in mind right so many
things that because i was raised like that now i live my life like there's good and bad in everything
right like the good parts i feel like you kept and turned it into business and today you advise people of
how to have a healthy lifestyle because of how you learned how to eat and cook and grow your food
and not eat things out of a box and those kind of things process. So how did you, did you always
know you're going to be an entrepreneur? Did you have, as I like to call them real jobs before?
I call it like real job. Like even though I have like 19 jobs right now, right? And I get paid
very, very well. I own all of the companies, right, that I work for. But I don't consider
them a real job because I love what I do so it doesn't feel like work right where in the past yeah
you're being creative yeah I call a job where I have to do things for money so now I'm not doing it
for money I doing it because I love it I money is the byproduct of it so did you have real jobs before
and when did you realize that you're going to be an entrepreneur yeah I did I did have real jobs I
I had various jobs I got a job as a dishwasher two days at a restaurant two days after I left the homage
community which is crazy um so I had that and then I had very
other ones. The main one that I had when I still lived in Ohio, I worked at a nursing home as a
certified nurse estate. And that's when I went and got my GED while I was there. And while I was
studying for my GED, nobody had ever asked this in my entire life. But my GED teacher asked me,
and she goes, Lizzie, what do you want to do with your life? Like, what do you want to do when you
grow up, basically? And I was like, I don't know. Nobody has ever asked me this question before. And
She's like, do you want to go to college?
Is there something additional that you want to study?
And here's the crazy thing.
Never studied history.
Never studied science.
Never even heard a thing about algebra.
Didn't know what an essay was.
So when she was like, write an essay, I was like, I don't know the essay.
And then she told me what I needed to do.
And I was like, oh, so what you need me to do is literally just think of something and
write it on paper?
What?
Like, that doesn't make any sense.
And so I had to teach myself how to do that.
And by the end of my GED graduation, I graduated the first go around.
And I still to this day, I'm like, I still don't understand algebra.
I don't know how I did that.
But she gave me the honor student because she saw like how hard I worked.
And I actually like made it.
And she's like, you need to like study.
You need to continue on in whatever passion.
And while I was studying for my TD, I was still working at the nursing home.
And I remember so clearly one day I was in a patient's room.
And I had my back turned towards the TV.
And I'm thinking, I'm like, what are I going to do?
Like people have been telling me, like, you need to go to nursing school.
And I was like, eh, I don't think nursing school is for me.
And an app came on the TV.
And they were talking about nutrition, like nutrition for your body.
And I don't know what was that.
I just know that's what it was.
And I literally like flipped around.
It was like that moment when I was at the mailbox, like snapping my finger and saying,
this is my moment of leaving.
The same thing happened in that room.
I turn around.
I looked at the TV.
I pointed at the TV and I said, that's what I'm going to do one day.
So I knew at that point in time that going into health and fitness, whatever road that takes
me on, that's what my passion was.
So I completed that.
And then I didn't study.
anything else until we moved to Arizona. Right after we moved to Arizona, I signed up and went to
personal training school and got certified as a trainer. I started working as a trainer and I was like,
this is my dream job. And about two months in, I was like, this is not my dream job. There's so much
more to this than this. And I realized that like help and what we put into our body matters so much.
And that is really where the bread and butter is. And so I went back to school the following year.
And I just studied holistic health.
And I worked at that training gym for six years.
But while I was there, I studied and studied and studied.
And then when the year 2020 happened, like, I knew for a few years that I was supposed to have my own business.
But I was like, I don't know how to do it.
Like, I don't know what to do.
How would I even do that?
And 2020 happened.
And it was right around that time that God was like,
It's your time. It's time that you like go out on your own. So that was in the summer.
And I committed to that. And so there's there's actually going back to the question that you
ask like how do you go from an Amish community and the things that you were taught to being an
entrepreneur. And there are so there's actually a lot of really, really good entrepreneur.
Entrepreneurship tools that the Amish teach and that we learn. But also there's some incredibly
spark homage people in business. And when I look back to like what it taught me is it taught me
structure, it taught me discipline, it taught me accountability, it taught me how to have a work ethic,
like all of those things. And you need all of those things if you want to be a successful
entrepreneur. And so the end of the summer of 2020, I hired my first business coach and I said,
I want to start my own online business. And I was like, the only way that I can be successful with this is if
I hire someone right out of the gate that teaches me the groundwork of what I need to do.
So that was my first business coach right out of the gate.
She helped me launch my business.
And I committed at in August of 2020, I said by the end of the year of 2020, December,
I'm going to stop my in-person training.
And I'm going to go fully online to just having my own business.
And I was like, I have no idea how I'm going to support.
and make enough money to do this, but I'm going to do it.
But because I decided that I was going to do it and then I committed to it,
I made it happen.
And so there's something that I teach is, I call it the secret sauce.
Love it.
There's like there's steps that within these actions.
And so like you can decide that you want something.
But if you don't commit and take action, that decision means nothing.
It's the same thing with a goal.
You can say, well, my goal is to do, make 10.
thousand dollars a month or whatever it is that you want to do but if you don't commit to the
action steps that you need to take in order to get there but goal means nothing yeah who do you need
to become right i always say who do you need to make 10 000 a month yeah what does it take and then
you need to become that person and i think it's also super important to set an end goal like i don't
think you an end date to your goal i don't even think you realize when you said that but just like
well it was 2020 and then by december i said i'm going to be doing this right so i think that's the
important element to the secret sauce right is not just knowing what you want but by when
yep right because if you don't give an end date like if you say i want to make 10 000 a month okay
you might make it when you're 75 years old like you need to do it like you need to say i want to make
ten thousand dollars a month by december of this year so i need to do this this this and this
today and this week and this month and this year to get today to get to my goal so how do you make
money today so i have my online coaching business i currently um it's called undiq
you so if you go to undiateu.com that's where you can see a lot of the information of what i offer
um but i primarily focus in on hormones thyroid inflammation uh most people that come to me
they want to lose weight but they have to get to the root cause of what is actually going on with
their health first so i'm a board certified functional nutrition practitioner so i run laps for
people so what everybody that comes in and works with me we're going to do in-depth lab work to find
out what is really going on internal and get to the root cause most people that come to me have tried
going to the doctor try to get answers and they're not getting anywhere it's just like vicious hamps
are real and truthfully like our medical system is so broken which is why our are like obesity levels
in our sick like epidemic sickness epidemic is so high
hide is because doctors are taught how to diagnose and prescribe. They're not taught how to help someone
heal and get to figure out. Yeah, to figure out what's causing it. They thought about how to put a
bandaid on it. Yeah. Right. And every bandaid has a side effect and then you're chasing, then you're
going down on the path of you might solve this problem causes another and then it's just a never
ending. I'm huge on not ever taking any medication and my kids are not vaccinated. I don't talk much
about it right out to the world because either way I lose 50% of my followers as soon as I
open my mind right it's so controversial but yeah that's my that's that's my main business and then
i am also the CEO co-founder of a non-toxic beauty grant as well so guys you can find um you can
find lucy's website on miss commando.com those are her products so these are describe them super quick
So these are non-toxic chemical-free products.
So we have a goat soap and we have a goat lotion.
Honestly, it's like the best lotion you'll ever use in your entire life.
And then we have also a goat lotion face cream.
And I've actually had people that started using it and they've been essay louder users for like 10 years.
And they're like, oh, it's way better than that.
So I have people that are throwing out their expensive face creams and they're going for hours.
And it's because it's such high quality.
It's very, very important for me to have a clean, non-toxic product, but it's still effective.
And that's what this is.
And then we also have something called a Commando bomb, which is a Shea Butter bomb.
And this is deeply, deeply hydrating, but there's five ingredients in it.
So one of the- How do you use a bomb?
The bomb you use for like dry cracked heels, dry hands.
Some people use it because they like to use it for total body like a lotion.
But a lot of people are using it for those like troubled areas.
One of the things that is really helpful with these products too is like people that struggle with like X-Mah and rosation surriasis.
It's been incredibly helpful for that as well.
So Ms. Commando is the women's line.
And then we have a men's line called Commando Outdoor.
And so that's where we're getting in like the men's sense.
And one of the things that sets this product apart from like a.
lot of products is when I started this, I didn't want a clean, healthy product that is stored in
terrible plastic. So what we did is we brought in hemp fiber biodegradable plastics and containers.
So these, this is not just for our skin. We are doing it to store our products in very healthy
items and they're so cool looking too. Like they're just amazing. Yeah, I love that. I love that.
the products last night. I can't wait. I'm going to order some and try them. I have one of my
boys. He always has his elbow super dry. Right. So I can't wait. I'm going to get the one for him
and try. Yeah. Yeah. So we're hitting it in multiple areas where it's like, hey, we're creating
a non-toxic, really clean, healthy product. And what makes it so effective is we're not putting in
a bunch of preservatives and chemicals and additional items that take away the benefit of goat milk
and the healthy products that we're using.
So we also only use really high quality oils.
So we're using like coconut oil, vitamin E, olive oil, things like that.
But it's like, when you read our label, you're like, I can understand everything that's in there.
That's why I love that.
You know, simplicity.
And I call it like symbol like the Amish, but badass like a commando.
Like we're got to keep it simple and basic.
And that's why it's so effective.
So everyone, you can find Liz's product products on mescomendo.com and also you can work with her on undiateu.com.
So if you need help with your health, with your physical being with your weight, it's undiateu.com.
You are a published author. So tell us about that.
So I am a published author of Amish Renegade.
And this is the anthropology of an Amish girl turns global CEO. And this is my memoir.
This is like me talking about what was it like to live there and that transition of living there into thinking about leaving, finally leaving, and then what was life like after and how do I build from basically I had $20 in my pocket when I left. That's it. I had nothing else. How do I build from that to a multi six figure business to becoming a global CEO?
I love it. I can't wait. Where can they find it? On Amazon? Amazon. Amazon. You have on Amazon and Barnes and Noble.
Okay. So everyone you can find it on Amazon under Amish Renegade. And then Lizzie, when people want to reach out to you besides your websites that we already shared, what is the best way to get direct access to you to communicate with you?
Yeah, you can message me on. I get a lot of messages on my Instagram. I'm pretty active on there. And then also Lizzie at undiateu.com is my email. You can reach out to me.
there as well. And I'm also pretty high on TikTok. Like a lot of people find me on TikTok as well.
My TikTok's actually higher than like I have almost 400,000 on there versus Instagram.
But that it's so interesting when you look at like the difference between a TikTok audience and an
Instagram audience is it's quite different. But I've been able to build both of them. So it's
awesome. That's awesome. So you can find Lizzie at Lizzie ends. It's spelled L-I-Z-I-E-E.
B-E-N-S-U-S-U-S-U-S-U-S.
So, Lizzie N-U-N-U-Wilness.
So, Lizzie, what is your, what is maybe a lesson that it took you the longest to learn?
Not to please people or be a people-pleaser.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Okay.
So I went through a massive, so I went through a massive realization just a couple
years ago that I was a perpetual people-pleaser.
And by doing so, I was dying on the inside because I was making sure that everybody else
was, like, happy and good.
there's no conflict and putting out the fire, but yet I was dying on the inside.
And just since going through my divorce and like really growing into a new version of myself,
I realized just how toxic that was and that it's okay for me to make sure that I'm taking care of first
so that I can better take care of the other people that I love in my life.
Yeah, I learned it on an airplane, right?
They always tell you to put your mask on first.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
If you're not alive, if you're not healthy, if you're not good, how are you going to have
the energy to take care of others, right?
So you're always first and then you have the energy to take care of others, the ones who,
you know, can be in your life because we do not have to be taking care of everybody.
Some people don't deserve us, don't deserve a spot.
Yeah.
And the thing is, I always tell you, it was like, sometimes that can sound selfish because
you're like, oh, it's all about you.
And it's like, no, it's actually about filling your cup first and making sure that you're
taking care of so that you can show.
up better for the people that you love. It's not selfish to take care of yourself first.
Because that only means you can show up better for the rest of the people that you want to take care of.
Exactly. Well, maybe share a lesson. We talked about unlearning things. Maybe share one thing that
you had to definitely unlearn from being raised in the Amish community.
Let me think about this for a bit. There's so.
many of them. One lesson that I had, one thing that I had to unlearn. Oh, I know what it is.
Go. We're growing up in the Amish community, you can also become a perpetual workaholic.
So for me, like, there's like good aspects to that, but I had to learn that it is also okay for me to
me to rest and take time off. And by doing so, it allowed me and it allows me to become more
creative and to show up for myself and the people that I love better. And it shows up in my
business and it shows up in my personal life. But it took me a long time to get there.
It didn't make you feel, it's probably a cultural thing because I always feel the same way.
Like if I stop and like let's say I enjoy, I don't know, a TV show or just reading a book, just like doing nothing, right?
Yep.
I always feel like I'm lazy.
Yep.
100%.
So there's only for me, there's only go, go, go or sleep.
Because if I'm sleeping, then I'd be like what I was sleeping.
I can't work while I'm sleeping.
Right.
So it is a call.
I think it has to do with the culture of bringing.
I guess I never realized, but as the same for me, I'm all right.
Even my name is go, go, go, right?
I'm always go, go, go.
go and if I'm not doing something we're thinking we're building or using my brain for something right
then I feel like I'm lazy yeah and I think that the lazy in a comfortable sense of word but lazy
in the negative sense of word as I'm wasting my time I'm wasting my life when I think that that
that can be dangerous because now we only find our work in our value in our work and in things and it's
very very important to understand and know and believe in in our own ability that
your worth is not in the things that you're doing.
Your value is not in the things that you're doing.
There's more to you than that.
But that is a very hard thing to unlearn when you come up a culture of like work.
Like I remember my mom said one time.
She goes, she sent this to my twin and I.
We were like her best workers.
Like we just got shit done.
And she didn't have to hound us for it.
She didn't even have to tell us.
Like we just knew what to do.
And she sat to us one day because we were also the most troublemakers.
like you'd have some trouble.
And one day she goes, if you guys would do everything else as good as you do your work,
you would be perfect.
She had no idea how that affected me because now all of a sudden I'm going,
I'm just going to outwork everybody else so I can get her approval.
Even if I mess up and I create trouble, she's still going to love me because I show up over here.
So that is what tied me and my value to my work is when she's,
said that because I was like, oh, she's going to approve with me. And that was one of the hardest
things for me to unlearn. Oh, well, thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much for your
knowledge and sharing your life story with us to help other humans who potentially going through
something similar, right, to learn the lessons without having to learn it on their own skin. That's the
idea with the Google Printer episodes is that I learned so much through other people's stories
with the idea that I don't have to go to the same thing
to learn the same life lesson.
Right?
So thank you so much for sharing yours
and helping the next entrepreneur
to not have to learn those life lessons
on their own skin and thank you for your time.
Thank you so much for having me.
It was a pleasure.
Thank you. Thank you, Lizzie.
Ready to elevate your mindset?
Now it's time for what would Go-Go do.
Can you describe a time when you failed
and what you learned from that experience?
So in the next episode of what would Go-Go do?
Here's the question.
describe a time when you failed and what you learned from that experience. Oh my gosh.
Failures are just lessons that you haven't learned yet because as soon as you learn it,
you're never going to do it again. So there isn't such a thing as a failure. It's just a lesson
that, oops, I didn't know that. Now I know better, right? So I don't look at things as failures,
but the first thing that pops in my mind, okay, let me back it up one more step.
Failures is really when you just failed and you didn't get up and you stopped. You didn't get up.
you. There isn't such a thing as failure in my mind. If you keep trying, if you keep
adjusting what you are doing and how you are doing to get the end result that you want,
there isn't such a thing as failure. So that's that. But here's a story that I learned from,
right? So about three years ago, my partner and I, I had a business partner at the time,
and I also learned from that. I'm not the partnering kind, but that's a whole other post.
So my business partner and I started a TC company, a transaction coordination company.
that company required about eight hours of my time and in the end of the month I got about $4,000 and I was like I'm sorry but $4,000 I don't work eight hours for $4,000 at this point I can't because I'm losing money but my hourly rate is $2,000 an dollar an hour right so what I learned from that I was like it's not worth my time I literally shut it down I gave my book of business with an affiliate link to a company that this is what they do for a living and they pay me a little bit of month what I should have done I should have sold the
book of business. I should have sold that business for somebody who is more than happy to work eight
hours to make $4,000. That's what I should have done. I should have slowed down to realize because
just because for me that $4,000 is not worth it, it's worth it for somebody else and I should have
sold that business, not closed it down. So that's what I learned. I consider that a failure because
really I could have sold that book of business for like, I don't know, 10x, 7x something. But I did it.
next time I will.
That's my failure-ish kind of lesson.
It's not a failure because I learn from it.
I will never make that mistake again.
Thanks for joining GoGipreneur.
Keep that GoGetters spirit alive.
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