KGCI: Real Estate on Air - Health, Action & Success Kris Zizzo on Transparency & Abundance

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

Summary:Join entrepreneur and fitness expert Kris Zizzo as he unveils the profound connection between health, decisive action, and achieving abundant success. This episode explores Kris's journey from engineering to becoming a highly successful real estate investor and online health coach, highlighting how prioritizing well-being fuels a relentless mindset. Discover the life-changing importance of transparency, consistency, and an abundance mindset in uncomplicating business growth and transforming your entire life.Bullet Point TakeawaysThe Integral Link: Health & Wealth: Understand Kris Zizzo's philosophy that taking care of your physical and mental health is not separate from, but absolutely critical to, achieving sustainable business and financial success.Action Over Complexity: Learn how simplifying your approach and embracing consistent, decisive action can cut through overwhelm and propel you towards your goals, whether in fitness or real estate.Transparency Builds Trust & Abundance: Discover the power of operating with transparency in your endeavors, fostering trust with clients and partners, which in turn attracts greater opportunities and abundance.Consistency as a Cornerstone: Gain insights into how disciplined daily habits and an unwavering commitment to consistency, a lesson from bodybuilding, are foundational to rapid growth and long-term achievement.Mindset: From Scarcity to Abundance: Explore how cultivating an abundance mindset can transform your perspective, enabling you to see opportunities where others see obstacles and attract the success you desire.Topics:Kris Zizzo HealthBusiness Success MindsetReal Estate AbundanceAction for SuccessTransparency in BusinessCall-to-Action:Ready to transform your health, take bold action, and unlock abundance in your life and business? Listen to the full episode on your favorite podcast platform!

This is Wake Up to Wealth, a podcast dedicated to helping you change the way you think about wealth. And now, here's your host, Brandon Brittingham. Hi, what's up, everybody? We're here for an episode of Wake Up to Wealth, and I got a good friend of mine, my homie, Chris Zizzo. And see, the thing is, when we talk about wealth, right, you know, people associate it with money. And which is part of it, right? It's part of the conversation. For sure.

Now, there's been a time in my life where I neglected my health and I had a ton of money and I got really sick and I realized that I didn't have shit because wealth is health, right? Yep. So I wanted to have you come talk today because, you know, there's a direct correlation in my opinion of being successful entrepreneur and how you're dialing your health in. Then obviously, if you're an athlete and you compete at any level, I mean, you've been in the bodybuilding. space, right? The mindset you have to have to do that translates into business. So that's one of the

reasons why I wanted to have you come here today is because you're an entrepreneur, you're, you know, you obviously disciplined because look at you physically, and, you know, you've going through the journey. So just for everybody that's listening to that doesn't know who you are or what you do, tell us a little bit about that. Yeah. So I'm a, I started out as an engineer. That was my original job and I just trained because I like training kept me out of doing bad stuff kept my mental clarity out of getting into trouble had my engineering job that I was doing didn't like doing that I've been in fitness for so long and I've been sharing like my transition from relying on alcohol and kind of having a shitty

attitude and mindset to being somebody who was more focused on whatever my goals were and fitness was kind of the driving factor to help me get there so doing well my career, you know, doing well with relationships and stuff. But I realized that when I didn't have that piece, the fitness piece, my life was chaos. I didn't have any sort of outlet for stress relief, so that would turn into alcohol or that would turn into bad decisions being made. But when I introduced that and I shared that journey, I grew my social media following, so now I have a few million followers that follow me. And I decided to pivot from engineering, which I really didn't like, to health and fitness coaching, because it's done a lot for me.

And then that's where I started. So I built my fitness brand just based off of my name, but then transitioned into something bigger. So I created a business called Beyond Failure Fitness, where coaches were coaching under me. Because with the influence on social media, when you do that consistently and you grow, you have a lot of people that are attracted to you and what you represent, just like anything. Like we're talking about right here, the consistency in doing social media with the fitness piece, with a positive attitude and mindset, people are attracted to that. So there was a lot of people that came in.

Now they're with my coaches, and I don't coach anymore. I just manage the team. But then started other businesses because of that. So now I have a, because of the high demand for media, social media for our fitness business, started a media business called the content machine where we produce high volume, high quality content. We got a training course coming out for that soon. And then the high demand of outsourced help that we needed, we started skill sifters, was a virtual assistant or outsourced help business specifically made for our media business

to feed that. And so now all these things are kind of feeding each other and they're growing each other, which is cool because everyone's like collaborating as a unit. So that's kind of where I ended up. So you've taken the journey of kind of got into fitness and now you've kind of created multiple businesses around it, right? Yeah. So you mentioned you got a few million followers on social media, right? And you didn't pay for any of that. You did that organically. Like, what do you think is, give us like the top three things you think that you did that got you to a few million followers? One is for sure transparency. Like, they follow you for your journey and your knowledge and anything that I know and learn. Like, I'm not selfish with any of it.

I let everything out there. If you followed me and you went back through all of my content, you'd have all of my business strategy. You'd have all of my fitness strategy. You wouldn't need to pay me for a coach. You could literally just copy what I've put out there. So being transparent and sharing everything that you think is valuable and then reading the data and seeing what others think is valuable and doing more of that. That transparency and following what the people need was one of them. The consistency was another one, which, I mean, I've talked to you about this a lot, but I mean, if you're not consistent doing the things that you need to do in your business, you're not going to grow. Same thing for your health. Same thing for your Instagram following.

So if you're not consistent in one area of your life, it's going to transform into other areas. It's showing up other places. Oh, yeah, everywhere. That's just who you are, right? You've got to break that habit. That's huge for people. So the consistency is there. And then I would say that just, you know, having a bigger purpose, like finding that was big for me.

Because if I didn't have that big purpose that I was driven to help people, I wouldn't have stayed on track with posting. But when I realized that, you know, it's not about the money that I want or it's not about becoming a professional bodybuilder, which I never cared about to begin with. It was about my mental health. And then I had people tuning into that. And then I had people messaging me, hey, it gets real serious when you have a lot of followers. People like, hey, I was literally going to commit suicide. And you saved me. Yeah. And I'm like, damn, now I have to keep doing it. There's a greater purpose aside from me. Yeah. You know, So those three things combined, that'll help you grow because you have the responsibility to do it.

You're consistent with it because you know you have that responsibility and you're following what the people want because you're transparent. They're with you and you're hearing, you're listening to them. It's going to take off, you know, sharing everything. So there's an underlying theme that you just said and I hope everybody caught it, which is everything you said comes out of being an abundant thinker. coming from abundance, having a mindset of abundance, because you said, hey, I shared my entire blueprint, right, that's abundance. Hey, my bigger purpose was to help people, that's abundance. Consistency comes from abundance, too. People think that it doesn't, but it does. So you have this abundance mindset, which is, you know, most people live in a scarcity mindset and don't understand

the abundant side of it. Yeah. So one thing I want to say to, like, you obviously, you're busy, You have a lot of shit going on. You know, the one thing, I don't coach people in the fitness world. I coach them as entrepreneurs. Right. But, you know, one of the first conversations I have with anybody to try to help them, hey, what's your health and wellness look like? And I can't tell you how many times I've had the conversation somebody's like,

I don't have time to go to the gym. Like, dude, you don't. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah, exactly, right? Oh, shit. You know, what's your, what's your, you know, food look. like what's your, you know, what's your water consumption look like. What kind of podcast is this?

Am I swearing on here? Oh, fucking right. Okay. All right. Because this is going to fire me up. Yeah. So now, and let me tell you me personally, there was a time in my life where I didn't believe in that either. For those of you that follow me, know I had a near death experience at an early age. The thing that saved my life is the physical condition I was in. Yeah. I would have died had I not been in the physical condition I was in. I was in the best physical condition in my life. That's why I didn't die, right? And now I'm in the best physical condition even more so than I was when I was younger at 40 years old.

And man, I can't tell you, God, my sleep, my mental clarity, my decision making, everything is better. Way better. My release and my stress and my mental health is better. like what do you say to somebody who says I'm busy as shit I can't go to the gym Oh fuck, dude It's real easy to break that one down for him Yeah so like first of all

From someone who's done it because I can take you as an example And I can plug you in so someone can relate Someone that's high level like you that does a lot of work like you That's busy like you and you do it and they don't I could say Brandon right now this is real What do you think in terms of energy levels Productivity with your mental clarity All of that stuff combined

If you had to throw a number number on a wall and saying this is the percentage of efficiency and and I guess productivity that I generate from being healthy versus where I was before when I wasn't healthy. Is there, is there some number? Like, do you think it's more than 10%? Oh, it's more than 20%. Yeah, because see, the thing is it's not just that. Like the other thing that I've learned about is, you know, not just going to the gym, right? So like today I spent almost all day with Dr. Chalmers. Right. Right. So going through my blood work. Right. you know, what's my diet look like? What's my supplements? Like, like literally tweaking it to

like the smallest change to get another level of productivity. It's one percent. You know, another, another, you know, an hour better of sleep, right? Or this one supplement might tweak something in my body. Right. Like I've gone to that level because, um, like you, I feel that one of my purposes in life is to lead other people. Yeah. Well, how the fuck can I lead them if I'm not at my 100% best every single day, right? Right. So I could take that testimony from you, and I can plug that into somebody who hasn't started with me, because they're going to look at me and say, you're already a pro, you already know what you're doing, I'm not you. Okay, you're not me, but you're, Brandon before you started, right? And Brandon went from here to here in this amount of time,

and one key factor that changed was his health and his focus on it. So if you want to do that, maybe stop thinking about you and your current situation and just apply what Brandon's done, because you can see his trajectory. If you want to match that, do that. The other thing is, because that's the immediate result that they get, right? I get to feel better, be more proactive, earn more money, work more hours, have an endless fuse of energy. I could just go, right?

The long-term stuff that I hit him with is, do you have family? You want to be a leader for people. Okay, how long does that last? You have family? How long does that last? I could tell you right now, somebody who doesn't adopt a health routine, the science shows that you're going to live 14 years, less on average than the person who does have a health routine. And I can tell you right now,

people who adopt a health and fitness routine and a good diet at the age of 40 years old, who have never done that before, live on average 4.2 years longer than those who don't. Even if you're 40, it's not too late. Do you want four more years with your kids? Do you want four more Christmases? Do you want to lead other people for four more years? And then I tell them this, if I were to take you away from your family right now for four years, they didn't know where you went, what happened to you, couldn't contact you, but you could look down and see them crying that you're gone. Yeah. You just disappeared. You could see them crying and you have to watch them for four years suffer. Right. How are you going to feel right now if that happened? People most

time say terrible. Yeah. Got to break my heart. Okay, so do you feel like it's going to feel any worse when you're 70 years old, but you were supposed to live until 75? Right. No, it's going to feel worse because you can have grandkids at that point. Yeah. You're going to want five more Christmases with your grandkids. So if you can get your, if you can't get your mind past that happening now and you don't want to adopt a health and fitness routine, you better prepare because when you're older, it's going to happen. You're going to go too soon. Well, and if you're an entrepreneur, you know, I was in the situation where, you know, again, financially, I was in good shape. I had materially, you know, all the shit I wanted. And I can tell you where I was and how bad, you know,

physically and mentally I was for my health, you know, when I was in the hospital and I was going through all the things, dude, you know, and I was thinking about what if I don't have any time left, right? It's like, fuck, dude, I would trade all the shit I have. If they came in here today and said, you got a week left, do you know what I mean? But for another week, you got to give us everything. I'd give it all up, right? So I think the other thing, too, is when I say, you know, wake up to wealth, well, fuck, man, I can teach you how to make all the money in the world. It won't matter if you make all the money in the world and then later in life, you've got to use all that money to try to keep yourself alive.

Right. You know what I mean? If you don't have a health routine, you can't be, I believe you can't truly be wealthy without your health. 100%. Yeah. Dude, it's, to me, it's just like, I mean, I just can't. I can't buy into that excuse of I don't have time for it.

I'm too busy. Because it's like, we always say this. How you do one thing is how you do everything. Absolutely. If you can't follow a health routine, you're just not discipline. You're not disciplined and you're selfish. That's a selfish move. You have your family that's depending on you and you say, I can't do that.

I'm too busy. I'm going to cut years off the end of my life. They're going to have to bear that burden of me leaving too soon. Or, oh, I'm supposed to be the example. and I tell my kids all the time who they need to be, right? But I'm not walking it. There's generational obesity in my family

and I'm not the one that's willing to break the curse. I'm passing this on to my kids, showing them how it's done, you know? Real fucking success, no. Stop being a lame ass. Get your ass in the fucking gym. It's not hard. 30 minutes a day.

That's it. You really can't make that sacrifice. You really can't put the sugary shit down and actually just be disciplined enough to learn a little bit. I mean, obviously, if you're an entrepreneur and you're making money, you're smart. You can figure this stuff out. It's easy.

Yeah. I mean, I hate to say it, but, you know, meatheads, that stereotype is true a lot of the times. And if they're figuring it out, so can a smart person, you know. So I just can't buy into that shit. It's a waste of, it's a waste of time talking about having that discussion with people. If they're not going to, if they're not going to bite after hearing the reality of what happens if you don't practice that routine, then they really are just, in my opinion, they're just a selfish person.

Why do you think, you know, I say this a lot. I talk about it on stage. I talk about it to anywhere I can with entrepreneurs. Why do you think so many people overlook it, you know, or just kind of like, yeah, I hear you, but like, you know, like, I don't want to go to the gym, or they go to the gym wants a choice and they stop being consistent.

like, I mean, because it is, it is now the highest performers that I know are all physically, do you know what I mean? That doesn't mean that they're bodybuilder in shape, but they're physically in shape. They go to the gym four to five times a week, maybe more, maybe every day. Their health from a from a food consumption, from a water consumption, limiting alcohol, limiting bad shit is all on point, right? They're dialing in their blood work, all that kind of shit. Yeah. But there's a, there's, and that's the highest performers. And there's another subset of entrepreneurs that are, that are high performers. And not everybody falls into this category. Right. But there's a lot of people that fall into that category where it falls on deaf ears. Why do you think that is? I think there's two parts. I think there's an actual, like, neurological part. You have patterns that are ingrained in you, which we can go into that after. But I think that something that people would better understand is like,

you know the power of your CRM in your business, right? Yeah. You know the power of your operating systems in your business. You know the power of your financial softwares that you use, right? Because you've given it a fair shot. You've poured into it to actually understand it or have somebody that understands it, make it work in your business, and you see it actually working,

and now you understand the benefits of it. How much time it saved you, how much error it saved you, how much money it saved you, in productivity, or in tracking data or whatever that is, right? You've seen it. But it took you months to build. Right. And years to perfect.

Right. Same thing with your health and fitness. People aren't giving it the time of day that it needs to actually work in their life. And they're dipping their toe in the water. You don't get the benefits from that. You get the benefits from consistently doing the shit, right? So if you consistently stay on your health and fitness journey, you're going to understand what the true effects, not just people quit after they're hungry for too long.

Okay. Well, what happens when you're no longer hungry because your stomach shrunken size and you lost 80 pounds? and your back doesn't hurt anymore because you lost all that weight and you're no longer a type 2 diabetic, you're no longer insulin resistant. You know what you feel like then? Well, you probably don't

because you haven't done it, but I could tell you what you'll feel like, you'll feel like you're 20 years old again. Right. What would that do for you? What would it do for your confidence when your wife actually wants to have sex with you again? It's like, fuck, you just didn't give it the time.

Sure. You know? Yeah. So just like building your CRM, building your operating systems, pouring into your people and training them, you see the benefit of that over time, but if you're not willing to stay committed to it,

you don't even know what it can do for you. Yeah. So they overlook that shit because they don't know. Yeah. The other thing I believe in is I have coaches in every area of my life, right? So obviously at this point, I know how to work out. Do you know what I mean?

I know how to work out hard. I know how to push myself in the gym. I still go to the gym with a trainer. When I come here to Texas, I try to work out with you or Heath or somebody like that that I know is going to push me. Yep. You know, that's another thing too is, you know, then I, you know, again, let's go another level.

Oh, yeah, I'm in the gym. You know, I'm in the gym. I'm working out. Hey, why don't you get a trainer? Oh, I don't really think I need a trainer. And I always tell people I think you do because I think if you want to be the best than anything, you always need someone else to hold you accountable. Yeah.

You know, what's your thoughts on that? Dude, I got a coach. I'm a pro bodybuilder. Right. I've got a coach. You know, like, I got to, my coach, Ariel, he's, you know, I mean, he got me to the pro stage. Christina's got a coach.

She's a pro bodybuilder, my girlfriend. Yeah. Why do we have coaches? That 1% edge, you're going to, I'm going to show up and be accountable to you. I'm going to learn some stuff that you learned that I didn't know. Right. You're going to shift the way that I do things or think about things and make me a little bit more creative with my strategy that's going to help me.

You have a third party perspective. You're looking in on me, not from the front lines where I am doing all the, stuff, I can only see this far ahead of me. You're looking at everything, right? So you can say, hey, you're in a bodybuilding world, maybe, hey, your back symmetry's off. Do this workout, because I can see your back and that side doesn't look like that side, right? But your coach, I mean, if you're not at that level, they're going to point out the areas where you aren't able to see, not just your physical areas, right, but just any of your weaknesses, period, and help you through that, you know? Yeah, I mean, on that note, tomorrow, so I, you know,

try to squeeze every single ounce out of every day I can. That's why I'm in gym clothes. I leave here. I'm going to go to the gym. And then I'm going to meet one of my mentors for dinner. Then tomorrow, Kent Clotheier, I'm literally spending the entire day with him mapping out like the next five years of all my companies. I mean, I'm a huge believer in get somebody that's better than you.

You know, listen to them. You know, they have the blueprint learn from them. You know, you can learn from each other. And I think that, you know, that's just an absolute, absolute game changer of, you know, where you can end up in life and how much farther you can get. Dude, I don't know what successful person I've ever been around that hasn't had somebody who's advised them on the way up. And people are, I don't know if I need that. Well, then you're going to be where you are forever. You know, you might make it like to a certain amount of success and anything that you do.

but there's just people. So like where I was from before I moved to Texas here a few years ago, it's just not really a place where you want to go out and meet a whole lot of people. Not a lot of ambitious people, kind of high crime. You know, it's just, it's like the kind of town that someone gets stuck in. Yeah. You know? And so I didn't really go out a whole lot.

And I had like a small group of people in the gym and stuff that I'd talk with. But most of the time I was just working. So I'd go to my job and I'd go to Starbucks after and I'd work there until this time. go to bed, go home. So I was secluded and I was doing so many different things, spending all of my time just working, and I really didn't get anywhere. I learned a lot of stuff. I learned how to like make websites and how to, you know, do some programming stuff. I learned a ton of stuff, but it didn't take me anywhere. And then I came here in three years, three businesses, successful ones, you know? A short period of time. Yeah, an amazing girlfriend,

connections and networking that I've never even thought, like, I know you, you know. I know some really cool people here. Yeah. The stuff that people pay high dollar to get in the room with them, and I get to be chilling with them in a seat next to them. Yeah. Right. How did that happen?

Like, I found one mentor who plugged me in. And now I was like, well, that worked. Maybe if I plug in with them too and them, this is going to like 2x or 3x. I mean, that's 10 X. The thing you just hit on, which is another thing that I think sometimes it's so overlooked. is your network and the people you're around and the influence. And I mean, a lot of people sometimes are just like, they're scared to spend the money to get in the right room. And God, man, that, you know, the thing is we overcomplicate business, right? Yeah. And we overcomplicate

how to be successful. So let's look at it from the health standpoint. I think you can solve a lot of shit in your life by going to the gym four or five times a week, drinking a ton of water, clean, getting good sleep. 100%. If you can do that, there's so many things in your life that will shift. Yep. As fucking simple as that sounds, people won't commit to that, right? And if you do that, so many things will change.

That's a simple adjustment that everybody can do. You don't have to get a fucking education. You ain't got to get a PhD. No. Right? It doesn't cost you a lot of money. Yep. That's a simple tweak.

One huge tweak, too, that I've always taught people, or I've always said, you know, you got to get an education for people that are smarter than you. You got to get in the room. You got to network, things of that nature. And that's not fucking difficult. Now, can it be expensive in some cases? Absolutely. But if you invest 50,000 in a mastermind that makes you a million dollars, the ROI is there.

And I think a lot of people, they make a misstep on that because they don't understand that concept of networking and getting in the right room. They don't. So to help them understand, I'll share what happened with me. I joined Apex. I joined in the middle level, so you pay like 12 or 15 grand or whatever, right? Got into Apex, started pouring into people, started learning from people like you and, you know, Ryan and everyone. You guys didn't know who I was, right?

But I was just pouring in, learning, doing what you guys said. Coming from abundance. Yeah. Just that's it, right? That's all I did. Then after pouring in for so long and doing what you guys said, that's all I did. Like a robot, you know, I didn't make any decisions. I literally just did what you guys said to do.

Ryan decides to put me on a stage at live. But before I went on stage at live, who called me? You. Yep. And you talked to me, right? And you talked to me before I went up there. You gave me the rundown of how to speak on a stage. Yeah.

I did well on that stage. I posted the video. I've made my money back now at speaking events. Yeah. Something that I didn't even know I was going to do before. I thought I was going to own a business. Right. Right.

So how much money did make me in my business? A lot. But I even paid that shit back two times over now with something I didn't even know was going to happen speaking. So you said something that I want everybody to recognize because this is where people missed up. When you come from scarcity, you always ask for something. You always want something. You always want something to be one-sided. You always want something out of somebody. And what you did in Apex is you came in, you came from abundance. Give, give, give, give. I'm not asking for anything in return. As a result of that, you got more than you probably would have ever asked for.

I think that's another huge misstep and mistake that people make is that when you, people like us, when we come from abundance and that's how we think, when someone doesn't, when they come into our environment, we know it right away, right? It's like, oh, that's some of a bitch is a taker. Yeah. Right? 100%. For everybody listen, let me give you some advice. Don't be a fucking taker. Because you can, you'll take and take and take until then you get excommunicated from everything. Yeah. And you'll just be in a shitty little corner. It's no way to live. The thing is, is if you want to grow in business and in life in general, give, bring shit to the table, and then it'll come back to you tenfold. What I see happen so many times in these masterminds is people get in them and they want to pitch their shit and I do this and I do that.

And, oh, you know, they want to charge for everything, whatever the case is. Look, run a business, make money. I get that. But come from abundance. You're a prime example of that you gave and gave and gave and gave. same with me. I came in Apex. I gave away a bunch of information.

Six, seven months later, Ryan puts me on stage, right? The next 12 months, I get asked to speak on the biggest stages in the world, right? With the biggest speakers in the world. And that came from giving, giving, giving, giving. And then he was like, hey, you've got something people need to hear.

It's just same with you. But we came from abundance. That's what got us there. And people just don't understand that shit. It's frustrating because you know, know, like you can tell people, hey, you're smart, like, but you're not smart enough to figure this abundant shit out apparently because you have wisdom. You're good at what you do, but you're never going to grow any farther than that because you're stuck in the mindset that you have.

So in college, when I was doing my homework assignments and everything from my engineering class, half of the class wanted my homework. Yeah. And I'd give that shit away. And people are you just good with that. Like, you spent your time doing that. How are you good with just giving it to them? I'm like, because I know when it's time to take the test, I'm going to pass, and they're going to set the low bar for the curve, and I'm going to be up here because I did the work, so I know. Like, so give away everything. If you're the originator of it, give it away, because no one's going to do it as good as you. Like, keep giving that shit away. I agree with you 100%. You know? Yeah. Like, I don't give a shit. Take my own work. You're going to get a D. I'm going to get an A.

I'm going to pass this shit. Out of the eight people that took my, fundamental engineering exam, I was the only one that passed it. Right. Why? Because I put in the work and I gave it all the way. I don't give a shit. I hope you do well. Take it, run with it. I tell people on social media all the time, I don't know what to post. Take what exactly what I do. Make your own version of it. When you copy my post, if you get a lot of hits out of it, I'm going to like that shit and comment on it, try to boost it up. Like, I don't care if you take my shit. Like, take it and run. And people are just afraid to give their knowledge. college away. They're, oh, what if I give too much? There's no such thing. 100%.

I agree. 100%. So one of the things I always ask people on this show is just answer it however it however it feels to you or what comes to mind. You know, what would you give people advice for them to be able to wake up to wealth? To wake up to wealth. And I really, every time I come up with this answer like a good answer, concert all circles back to the same thing, which is kind of like what I give my keynote speech on, which is finding your purpose.

Like, your purpose has to be so big. Like, I say it all the time. One of our first core value in my teams is G. It spells out goals, and the first one is greatness. And you're not, I tell all of my team all the time, you guys are not meant to be good in this world. You're meant to be fucking great. Like, amazing. Like, 10 times better than, like, whatever your biggest goal is right now, put a zero behind it.

10x that shit. Make it bigger than that because that's who you're supposed to be. Like you're still small. I'm still small-minded. And I think big. I'm thinking fucking as massive as I can, right? But I know that I have a limited capacity until I break through another level.

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