KGCI: Real Estate on Air - Live Role Play: Securing Listing Appointments and Handling Objections
Episode Date: January 26, 2026Summary:This episode provides a highly tactical, live role-play session on how to secure listing appointments and handle common objections from sellers. The hosts, Alissa and Jessica, practic...e and analyze specific scripts and dialogues that are proven to convert. The content is directly applicable and focuses on the precise language, tone, and mindset needed to confidently navigate prospecting calls and turn potential leads into solid appointments. It's a must-listen for any agent looking to improve their communication skills and increase their listing inventory.
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Look, it's so many agents lose a listing before they even book the appointment because they stutter at the first sign of an objection.
But today, you're going to hear exactly how to navigate those awkward silences and the nose to secure a more solid listing appointment.
Because it is so easy to talk to a willing seller, right?
Someone who's calling you saying, hey, come sell my house.
But when a prospect pushes back on commission or timing, that's where a lot of agents fold.
And if you can't handle the heat on the phone, you'll never be invited to that kitchen table.
So in this episode of the Uncommon Real Estate podcast host Chris Craddick, who cut his teeth on those prospects that pushed back,
treats us to a live whiteboard session of role play, where we are breaking down the precise language,
the mindset shifts that are needed to treat every objection as a request for more information rather than rejection.
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Here are your hosts,
multi-millionaire real estate agent and investor,
Chris Craddock and Jeff Safright.
Welcome to another episode of the Uncommon Real Estate podcast.
I'm your host, Chris Craddock,
and I am super pumped
to have a buddy,
mine. He has joined forces with us in our Gain Network, Global Agent Investor Network, part of
EXP, and he has been an investor for a while. He's getting kind of his business rolling,
and he's gotten licensed in the last year, and he is looking to absolutely blow the barn doors
off. And so with that said, I thought, what better thing to do than just have a public
coaching session, right? Let's hear what it is when Colby is willing to be vulnerable for everybody.
We actually just did this on a morning huddle for our Redux group a couple weeks ago where a
guy on our team who does about two deals a month. He's averaging between 25 and 30 deals a year.
He wants to really level up and do about 50 deals. And so we're like, all right, let's do a public
coaching session and it was just awesome because we recognized a number of the spaces that needed to
kind of be optimized in order for him to go from where he was to essentially double and he has all the
talent to do it he has all the capability to do it but he he didn't recognize what the pieces were
that needed to change for him to be able to do it so with that said thought well somebody that is
super talented like Colby let's let's hear what he is doing now and then let's you know here's the
question for you Colby is what I always ask when we start are you can I say anything will you give me
freedom to say any of my thoughts and not not hold back and know that this comes from a place
of me wanting you to get better and not as a way to hurt your feelings absolutely boom all right
game on so now I have the freedom to say to say what I'm thinking and even
even though I try to, I try to still be nice.
I'm way less nice when I have that freedom to go.
So, boom.
All right.
So first day, Colby, in real estate in the last 12 months, how much money have you made?
I have made about 30,000.
30,000.
All right?
What is the goal?
How much would you like to make in the next 12 months, starting today?
Starting today.
Let's say 90 days from today, because anything you do today, you won't
not see the results until about 90 days from today. So 90 days from today and then the rolling 12 months
after that. Yeah, 90 days from today, my goals would be target would be 30,000, another 30,000
and automate my. No, no, no. So 90 days from today, go. So what is that? Like we're in August
right now. So we're talking September, October, November. So from November to November,
how much would you like to, what would be the goal? The goal would be,
200.
200.
All right.
Cool.
And then what is the, I mean, I know it's great, but if you're to just close your eyes and say, okay, this is my dream number.
What is the dream number?
600.
600.
Okay.
Cool.
Now, here's the thing.
You just fold us what your current ceiling is.
So whatever that number is, is the same.
ceiling. So, and I'll just tell you for me personally, years ago, when I had to write that down,
when I was first starting, I was like, man, if I could make $400,000, and that was pre-inflation,
so it's probably about, about the same amount as your $600. And you want to know where I got
capped for three years? Where? $400,000. So that, and the reason why was because I set that
ceiling there. I was a $400,000 like person in my mind, you know, and that was a $400,000. You know, and that
my net income for for a number of years like when I first was in the business right because I had a goal
I was like okay six figures then it was okay man if I made 400 life would be different in a way it was
different but it was also not quite as different as you think because as you're growing a business
if you make 400,000 then 50% goes to the government and you're left with 200 and then you know you use 200
to both throw your business and live on and try to pay for all the things that you've you've
want to pay for going forward. So 600 and I'll tell you, I would say think about how you can bump that
that up in your mind. All right. So 200 is a goal. 30 in the last 12 months. You want to go to 200.
So we're talking about what, eight, seven, about seven Xing what you did in the last 12 months.
All right. So I had a mentor of mine who said to me early on in my in my life and career wasn't in
real estate. He was doing some mentorship with me. And he said, okay.
I want to see your calendar and I want to see your checkbook.
That was back when we had checkbooks.
I want to see your calendar and the checkbook because these two things tell me what you care
about most.
You can tell me you care about other things, but the amount of time you spend on something
and the amount of money you spend on something tells me exactly what you care about.
So if you care about like charities or organizations and you don't volunteer any time
and you don't donate to them, you don't care about.
Let's just be honest, right?
If you care about your business and your time is not spent in your business and your money spent growing your business, then you don't care about it.
Right.
That's just the deal.
And you got to be honest with yourself, right?
That's step one of the 12 steps is like, and make you're an alcoholic, right?
Have a real thing.
And I think step four is like a fearless moral inventory, right?
Be fearless in your inventory.
So with that said, let's jump into the thing that will dictate your success more than that.
anything else, your schedule.
What time do you wake up?
I wake up around 6.30.
Okay.
So you said around, what does that mean?
Set my alarm for 6.30 and I make sure, I,
truthfully, I set it for 5.30, but having some struggles.
So I get up no matter what at 6.30, no matter what, the latest 6.30.
Okay.
So let's start with the first conversation here.
So you set your alarm from.
530, but you don't get up at 5.30. So you're telling me the first thing you do in the morning
is you break your promises to yourself. Exactly. So that was one of the one of the habits I decided
a few years ago was actually, I think it was last year, the beginning of last year was I will never
hit snooze again. And I haven't hit snooze since. And man, there are been mornings that I am
dragged. But I'm not going to be a promise break. I'm a promise keeper. I'm a promise keeper.
That's who I am. I keep my promises.
And inside, I know that I'm starting my day like that.
So, bro, if you want to start winning, like, you're never going to keep any of the other promises if you start your day by breaking promises.
So, so either set your alarm for 630 or set your alarm for 530, but don't hit snooze anymore, right?
Mm-hmm.
Are you at a place where you're ready to make a commitment like that or is that?
Yeah, 100%.
100%.
Okay. So what is what is the commitment? The commitment is to get up at 5.30. Don't hit snooze. Get my butt up.
Okay. Start my day off with a win. Cool. And what are you going to what are you going to say to yourself when you don't feel like getting up? Because you got to have something you say to that you've got two sides. You got your your side that sucks and your side that like is just like, no, I'm going to be soft and I'm going to suck at life and I'm never going to I'm never going to win. You know, and you got the side.
that's the lying, right?
And whichever one you feed is going to be the one there.
So what are you going to say to that side that sucks when 530 rolls around tomorrow and
you're like, then I want to get up.
I'm tired.
My eyes hurt.
What are you going to say?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I'm going to have to tell myself it's personally my fault that I didn't go to bed earlier
if I'm not tired.
And I did it to myself so I could just sleep better than next night.
Absolutely.
Well, I'll tell you, you got to have a mantra that you say to yourself as well.
Like you got to say, you got to have something like, this is what winners do or all I do is
win.
Pick something in your mind that you say that motivates you because like legit, if you don't
cheer for yourself, who is?
If you are not motivating you, who is?
Right.
We don't have, we don't have our mom like as our big cheerleader anymore.
Like on the sidelines like a six-year-old.
soccer player anymore. Like, we've got to be the cheerleader. And if you can't find that internal
motivation, you got to figure it out because that's the only way to make that happen. So we got
to start a day with the win. Boom. All right. So we're there. Then next, you get up and from here
on now, let's just say, let's say it's, we'll just call it 630 because that's when you get out of
bed. What is the first thing you do at 630? First thing I have to do is either lift in the morning
or I don't lift at all, and I need the list, just because it clears the line and it's healthy for you.
So I love to lift.
So how often are you lifting right now?
Every day.
So you are.
It sounded like there's like days that you're missing.
So are you hitting every single day?
Yeah, every day.
Okay.
And do you have a gym membership?
Do you have a gym in your basement or garage?
Oh, yeah, you're Texas.
You guys don't have basements, right?
No, no.
So I live in a little guest house.
So I'm not paying any rent, which is awesome for me.
And we have a shop and we have our own little gym in there.
So I just get up and every day hit it hard in the gym.
Okay.
And when you go to the gym, are you, are you hitting hard?
Or are you going in?
And some days you hit hard and some days it's...
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, it happens all of us.
Some days are better than others.
But as long as we get in there and, you know, make something happen.
And that's a win.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Absolutely. I actually, so I joined the lifetime, which I don't know if it's nationwide,
but I know at least around here. I joined Lifetime and started doing like the alpha classes
because like when I lived in our old house, like I had this small little gym in like an
unfinished portion of our basement that was just, it was crappy and all my weights were
crappy and everything was crappy. But man, I could hit it like a like a monster. And then
we moved into this house and I got like this sweet rack and like all this sweet gym.
equipment and I just was so soft like so soft. It was like I got to do something different. I got to shake
it up because that's not who I am. And if I start my day like this, I'm going to finish my day like
this. And so that's why I just joined lifetime because I'm like, I can't look over and see like a
90 pound girl putting up more weight than me and feel okay. Oh yeah. Sorry for all you PC people out there,
but that's just how I feel. Right. So so so yeah, that was that was the deal. So good, good, good.
So you hit the gym and then what's next?
After I hit the gym, I will, typically what I do the night before is write down the list
of what I need to do in the morning to knock out before I start my day.
And so I'll look over.
I keep notes of all my KPIs and a Google sheet for all the lists that I call.
So for those that may be newer to the business world, KPI are key performance indicators,
the things that you're focused on.
So, yeah, go ahead.
Exactly, exactly. Just make sure that I'm hitting my numbers and looking at my connection rate, my abandoned rate, just whatever list that I targeted and deciding, dictating how my future day is going to be and whatever else I have on my notes to do to knock out in the morning.
Can you read to me what your KPI was from this morning?
Yeah. So my KPI's were between, so I typically call, this is between. This is between.
between me and my virtual assistant.
I have a virtual assistant as well.
And what you pay your virtual assistant?
$4 an hour.
Sweet.
Yep.
And so yesterday we combined for 1,972 total dials.
And virtual assistant calls.
She calls.
She works eight hours a day.
Cool.
Okay.
Go ahead.
And this is only me calling for an hour yesterday,
because yesterday was pretty busy.
So my dials are 1,972.
There was 1,06 no answers,
six hang up, one lead,
19 non-interested.
We got five wrong numbers.
Our abandon rate was 5% connection 3.45.
And that was for a tax delinquent list here in the DFW area.
Okay.
So you called, all right.
So real quick,
how many people do you call you,
How many dials were made yesterday between you and the VA?
1,972.
And how many conversations?
We had, so our conversations, our connection rate was 3.45.
So I don't have conversations in here.
I need to add our conversation, our connect rate.
But we had around 70 conversations.
Okay, 70 conversations.
How many people were interested in,
in something
let's just say in selling
one just one was interested
okay still
one a day what's your average sales price
where you are
these are distress properties
for this distress properties it's
anywhere from 150 to 250
okay but still
so let's just call it 200
so in the best case scenario
you're going to flip
a wholesale innovation like
a spread deal and you're going to make some money there.
Worst case scenario, as far as profitability-wise, you'll list the property.
And typically what you'll see is three and a half percent on the list side and then
whatever you pay a buyer's agent in this new world.
Right.
So you're looking at what, seven grand right there?
So do you know how many people you have to go meet with that are interested in how many
appointments you have to take to get a deal?
I have two listing appointments this weekend. I have not yet converted on these distress properties. I am
however closing actually five days from now on a friend of mine in my sphere of influence. So that'll be a big win.
So I do not have that that number that you're asking for appointments to deals.
Okay. Got it. How long have you been making calls?
I have been making calls since I joined EXP in April.
Okay, got it. And has it been this many calls every day?
No, it's been consistent like this for about a month and a half to two months.
Around, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so you're getting, so let's just say a month and a half to two months.
So that takes 90 days for something to work.
How many appointments have you had?
So I've had three appointments.
Three appointments. Okay. Is this one the guy that was interested or the girl that was interested yesterday? Are they, are they interested in an appointment? Like, what is, like, how interested are they? It'll be a listing. They're, they're out of Dallas and they, I'm going to have to call them back to the seal the deal on an appointment times. Okay. Got it. Got it. So you can call them back, sealed the deal on the appointment. Totally good. And then, um,
Well, why didn't you set the appointment where you're on the phone with them?
Because they were in a rush, and I was just trying to gather more information about their needs and kind of what was going on with everything.
All right. So here's one of the pushback moments. You ever talk to anybody that's not in a rush?
Very, very few people are not in a rush on the phone.
Right. Do you know how hard it's going to be to get these people back on the phone with you?
Yeah, I do.
I have to call them at least twice a day and get a text and leave a voicemail if they don't.
Do you know how many hours not setting the appointment while you're on the phone with them has cost you?
I do not.
It's probably going to be somewhere between 45 minutes and three hours.
When you think about calling, when you think about the head space you have to get in,
when you think about looking at the CRM, all of the different pieces, like it is
it just takes so much like headspace.
So let's roll play it.
We've had the conversation you want to sell
and you're trying to get off the phone.
Go ahead.
So Colby, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
I know you got to run and just real quick.
So just so that I can get an understanding of what you're looking,
looking to do and looking what to sell for.
I'm curious, I can swing by.
I'm going to be over in your neighborhood tomorrow or early next week,
Monday evening.
What would work better for you tomorrow or Monday evening?
So tomorrow I'm going to be
I'm going to be pretty tight up with work
Monday evening I'm not sure
I might be able to fit it in
but I want to have dinner with my family
Okay
well why don't we just put it on the calendar
for let's say 515
and we can just be in and out
in about 20, 30 minutes
and yeah and then we'll be done
in time for you have dinner.
Does that work?
Yeah, that should be fine.
Boom, done.
Okay.
Now push it.
back a little bit harder and be like, I don't have my calendar in front of me. I'm really in a rush.
You know, give me that, give me that piece. Absolutely. Like sometimes it's going to be like that
where it's like a little bit of pushback and you got to lean through it. But I'll tell you,
with any objection, if you don't answer it at least three times until they're about to like
literally hang up on you, then you are literally setting yourself up for, I mean, I don't know,
if you like that kind of pain, just punch yourself and then chip in the throat and you'll be okay
with it because you're setting yourself up for pain when you don't set the appointment and then
have to chase people down. And I'll tell you, I am that person, right? Like, I needed to get a
generator. When we moved into a format, power goes out here a little bit more often. So we needed a
generator. So I signed up for all these generator like type installers. And all these people were
calling me and I'm like, I just, I still want to deal with it right now. I don't want to deal with it
right now. And I just kept pushing it off, pushing it off. And the reality is,
If somebody, when I got it done, somebody got me on the phone, nailed me down on a time,
and then got out here and they got my business because I didn't want to go through a bunch of
different people because I was busy, right?
So that was the whole thing is you got to get somebody to like nail down.
So, all right, give me a little bit of a little bit more pushback on that.
Okay.
So yeah, does, just tomorrow or Monday evening work for you better?
No, neither of those times work for me.
Okay, cool, cool.
You know, this weekend, I got some flexibility.
Wouldn't you typically, when are you typically free on a weekend?
On a weekend, man, it all depends because my kids are playing sports.
It all depends on their tournament.
Probably not available on the weekend.
Okay.
You want to just put, why don't we just put like Tuesday evening around five down?
And then if you need to change it, we can absolutely change it.
But like, why don't we just put that down as a placeholder for now?
and then next week on Monday, I'll reach out to you and just double check that that works.
And if it works, cool.
And if we need to bump it, then we'll just bump it, you know, to a time that works.
Does that work for you?
Because I know you're, I know you're a little bit busy and I'm really trying to get stuff done.
So is that, is that cool?
I'm not sure if it'll work.
I may or may not answer the phone, but you could give it a try.
Okay.
Cool.
Well, sounds good.
Well, why don't, like, I get that.
And so, yeah, I don't know that we need to talk on the phone as much.
I mean, obviously you want to get your house sold, and I want to need to get you a cash offer.
I think, you know, we may have a buyer for your house.
So I just need to, I'll all just come through, take some notes and, you know, just I can
hop in, hop out, you know, 15 minutes and we'll be good to go.
So, yeah, why are we just scheduled for Tuesday?
And if you need to reschedule, we'll reschedule.
I'll text you Monday to make sure we're good to go.
Okay, that's fun.
As long as it don't take too long.
Okay, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
If it's any more than 15 minutes, we'll rock and roll.
We'll get out.
Boom.
All right.
Cool.
Yeah.
So what did I do there?
You handled the objection and you kept on trying to find a solution for a better date that worked better with him.
And you didn't take the no for an answer.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Everybody's going to give you a no.
And I tell the story all the time.
I went to a wedding.
right and you know i like to i need to get slightly custom stuff just because you know just my build
you know i you know off the rack doesn't work for me very well and i went to a wedding and sure enough
i tore a big old the seam in my butt right just just tore it and we were heading to the reception
and so i you know there was a mall literally right across from the reception center and i'm like
dude i'm just going to go in i saw a big jc's penny sign so i just i just
is random to JC Penny. I'm like, what can I get that will fit and match my suit?
I walk in and a salesperson walks up and he's like, hey, can you help me? And you know what I said to
him? Like I said, I mean, just guess. What do you think I said, you know? I have no idea.
Dude, I just said, I'm just looking. I wasn't just looking. I had a freaking tear in my,
in my, like, the epitome. I'm not just looking. I was a buyer. But that was just naturally what
came out of my mouth on that.
And then I start looking around and I'm like, oh, crap.
And I knew I didn't have much time.
And I'm like, dude, I need to find it.
So then I went back and found him.
I was like, hey, can you show me?
Where's the men's section?
I need like a soup hand.
And then they brought me in and showed me all the different options.
And I found something that fit.
And I told them what happened.
And I found something that fit.
But literally, I thought about that.
And I'm like, why did I say I was just looking just naturally?
Like that just came out of my mouth because I just didn't want to deal with the hassle, right?
And that's where people are.
And even though they need your help, they're going to say the equivalent of, I'm just looking,
or not now, not now, not now.
And that's where the winners are able to figure out just like the generator people,
they nailed me down on a time.
Like when you can nail people down in a time, it's going to save you.
Imagine that times the next 25 conversations.
How many hours of follow-up you're going to have to do,
versus just get something nailed out.
And even if they cancel on you later,
like that's the whole thing.
And let me,
I'll say one last thing.
And then maybe we'll do a part two of this because we didn't really even get far into the day.
But here's the other thing.
Never call and just confirm an appointment.
If you ever confirm appointment,
you're asking to get canceled on.
So my dentist,
you know,
I remember sitting with him.
He's a business guy.
And I remember sitting with him.
I was sitting in the chair.
And we were just talking with each other.
And I was like, hey, I get the automated voicemails from you or the text from you that have no reply all the time.
I was like, I'm just curious, why you send those like that?
And he was like, oh, because we found that whenever we called to confirm, people would just cancel us all the time.
So we send the message where people can't reply so they can't cancel, but they're also reminded that it's there.
And he said, our cancellation rate went down by more than 50%.
when we stopped giving people the opportunity to cancel.
And I was like, oh, my gosh.
Last thing I'll throw out there,
we partner with a company called Express Homebuyers
where they would send their listing appointments to us.
And all of a sudden, we went from closing,
like a set to met rate of over 80%
to a set to mat rate of less than 20.
And we had no idea why.
Then we found out that on that they updated the calendar
and on it,
it put a reschedule or a cancel.
appointment button and literally as soon as that button appeared people rescheduled or canceled
non-stop like literally we had over 60% of the people that normally we met with when it was just a
button to click they just rescheduled because everybody's busy so just know everybody's busy
keep the appointment move forward and your productivity is going to go through the route all right
we're at the turn of the hour or so colby give me three things that you're
you're thinking about and one thing you're going to implement from this this session.
Yeah, so three things I'm thinking about. First of all, I can't, I can't lie to myself and hit snooze.
That's first and foremost. How we start the day is how we set the tone for the day.
So we need to start off with a win. I'm going to set the appointment. If there's any pushback,
that's fine. It's normal. Get a time, you know, get a time and continue.
need to be consistently calling and marketing to get deals.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
I know that as you keep doing this, bro, you're about a month in.
So you got two more months before you start really reaping the benefits of all the
work you're doing.
So just stay consistent.
You got 60 more days of consistency, of planting where you don't necessarily see the
fruit all coming up.
And this is where I'm just going to use, you know, harsher language.
This is where losers quit and winners keep going.
And so, you know, keep running, brother, keep running, keep doing the right thing.
And it will come.
You know, you will have the harvest coming up in the next 60 days from today.
All right, man, this was great.
This was awesome.
I hope it was helpful for you.
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Happy to help and serve you all.
Until the next time, Colby, crush it.
And everybody, go out there, be a person at your word.
What you say you're going to do, go make it happen.
Kick butt.
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