KGCI: Real Estate on Air - Mastery Through Mindfulness: Balancing the Three Pillars of Success

Episode Date: March 16, 2026

Summary:In this episode of the Connected Podcast, host Kirtus Dixon explores the "three-legged stool" of a successful real estate career: mindset, skill set, and systems. The episode provides a tactical breakdown of how agents can use mindfulness to strengthen each pillar, ensuring their business remains stable even during market shifts. Dixon emphasizes that without a strong mindful foundation, even the best systems will fail. Agents will learn actionable techniques to audit their current "stool" and identify which leg needs immediate reinforcement to achieve sustainable growth.

Hello, friends. Oh my God, happy New Year. Welcome back to the Michael CEO. Yeah, I know. It's been a bit since we recorded something. That's, it's been since last year. It's now 2026, people. It is 2026. It's true. Here we are. Oh, and 2026, we're bringing back guests, by the way, everybody. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah, we got a couple of cool people in the works. Love that. But yeah, let's jump in because we don't know where we're going with this. Well, we have a vague destination and we are going to move in a purposeful manner.

Yeah. Well, I think that's worth distinguishing because I think we, you know, the last, I don't know, what, six months? Yeah. Eight months? You know. Three years? No. Okay.

But, you know, we woke up to, you know, Chris slapped me upside the head. I woke up to, but we woke up to that we've been wandering in a non-purposeful manner toward no destination. nation. That is not uncommon in business, right? Right? You just get caught. Yeah. No, it's a really, Chris, that's a really, I mean, this is why we record because we don't see shit until we start, hit record.

Right. It's super common to get what I think it's referred to as lost in the weeds or not seeing the forest for the trees, you know. Yeah. That you get caught in the day to day. you're doing the doing that you know to do because you've done it and you know this is what keeps this alive. So we've been showing up every week because that's what we do. And we know that not showing up would be admitting defeat or it would be canceling something or it would be ending something. And we're not going to do that.

But we're just going to keep showing up. But if you're just showing up going through the motions, you're better, you're avoiding. any sort of, you're just avoiding any declaration, any causality, any agency. You're just showing up. Yeah. You're going through the motions. You're just doing whatever work there is to do. And frankly, avoid, you know, on one hand, calling it complete, quitting the job,

closing the store, whatever, takes way more effort than just blindly showing up and wandering, you know, going through the motions every day. A lot of times the path of least resistance is going through the motions. I would think, I mean, I'm a little surprised. What strikes me as an insight in my head now that I've said it out loud, strikes me as dumb. But in my head, it sounded like, yeah, I think the path of least resistance is quitting, is stopping, whatever you're doing.

But I don't think that's true. I think the path of least resistance is sleepwalking through it. Yeah, I could see that. Sure. Going through the motions. Napoleon Hill in outwitting the devil called it hypnotic rhythm. Fuck, yeah. I forgot about that book.

Yeah. Yeah, it's like 97% of the population are just stuck in hypnotic rhythm. We sleepwalking. We're just going through the motions, punching the clock. There's no sense of purpose. there's just showing up and doing the same old thing. And that's so common in business, like you said, because we get familiar with it take, this is, I referenced Daniel Conneman yesterday.

You'd be so proud of me. I'm like, System 2 thinking, Daniel Connman, even though I haven't read the book. But the, but that whole thing, like it takes, it takes some effort and some cognitive, like, intention to sit with what purpose is my purpose? That's not an easy question to answer. Right. Right. And then to make sure every day that my actions are moving in that direction, you know, and assessing, right?

You talked about assessment pregame. Yeah, right. So I think, you know, we wanted to roll out a framework that we're playing with thinking from. Yeah. And give everyone an opportunity to use this as a filter or a template, a guide, whatever. Yeah. for your own thinking regarding your own business and your own life. So you want to introduce it, Chris, because this is the master of this shit.

Yeah. Anytime you're trying to wrestle esoteric ideas to the ground and make them useful, it helps to have edges. Like what are like we need words and language around this so we don't get lost in, you know, everything, nothing land. So I was just saying. sitting with like, well, what would be, what are some of the things required for us to bring the world into a more mindful place, especially in the business world? You started, maybe I'll toss the ball back to you for a minute because you had talked a couple calls ago about attitudes, as in like tenants.

We've been playing with tenants for a while. Yes. But I really liked the way you described attitudes as it relates to aviation. Yeah. Maybe you can distinguish that and then I'll come back to the framework. Sure. Yeah, I like attitude because it includes both the mental, sort of the default understanding of attitude is, you know, our mood.

Yeah. Right. That's when we talk about attitude, when anyone talks about attitude, what mostly people hear is mood. Yeah. But attitude is also in terms of aeronautics, this is, I don't fly, so this is just what I've read. But it means your orientation relative to the horizon is your attitude.

Love that. Your orientation relative to the horizon. And I think that's a really useful definition of attitude because there's agency involved in that. It's easier to get your agency inside that. Right. Right. Your mood sort of strikes me as, well, description. at best.

I'll describe the mood I'm in. Right. Not really causal in any way. It's very hard for me to, I don't default to causing my mood. Yeah. Right. Although that's...

Usually attitude in the default way of talking about it, like you're saying, a mood is not relative to anything else. It's not relative to a horizon. That's right. Yeah, I really like that horizon piece. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah. And even, yeah, there's the default sort of understanding of positive and negative emotions, you know, frustration, despair, by default, show up on the negative side of the spectrum,

and joy and fulfillment show up on the positive side of the spectrum. So if your mood is in any of those camps, there's an inherent or an automatic assumption that one's positive or not, where, you know, grief could be generally considered negative, but it's really neither inherently. It may be completely appropriate for the circumstances. So, mood is generally, by default, when encountered in nature, when you sneak up on it, is how we find it. We sneak up on it.

We don't cause it. We are just acknowledging. something that already exists or a move. Whereas. Whereas attitude in the aeronautical sense is causal. It's I am going to orient myself relative to this particular horizon, the horizon, you know, the destination where I'm headed, I'm going to orient myself in a particular way to get there. Yep.

And whether I get there or not and the speed with which I get there and efficiency with which I get there is determined by my attitude, which is causal because I can orient my plane. Yeah. I've got the, I've got my hands on the knobs and levers that orient the plane. That's right. That's right. Perfect. Yeah.

So, so with that is like how we're talking about these three parts of the framework. We're going to, it's kind of like a three-legged stool. So I'll lay this out. But, you know, a three-legged stool. Like you cut, you don't have one leg or two legs. It doesn't work. So you need all three legs for three-legged stool. So the first attitude where you can orient your life to a horizon is connection.

And these are all inside of mindfulness, like connection to yourself, connection to source, whatever you call source, right, where Aaron and I often talk about thinning the veil or consciousness or, right? So your connection to source and your connection to others. That first leg of the stool is connection. and those connections absolutely impact your experience of your life. If you're not connected to yourself or source or others, you're often very, you're unmoored. You're unmoored. Your life is tossed around.

That connection really brings you here. And some practices of connection, meditation is a practice of connection. the more when you're watching your thoughts, that's connecting you back to self. If you're practicing gratitude in meditation, that's connecting you, could be connecting you back to source. If you're in a, Aaron and I lead the mindful CEO mastermind, which is a small group of other people committed to this conversation. And every week on Zoom or every week online we're meeting,

having conversations in those conversations are connecting us to each other. That's a practice. So that's the first piece of this is connection. Do you have anything you want to add to that? Yeah, well, I mean, we're talking about it. So one thing is you're talking about it, the first piece is connection. And the acronym starts with cap. But it's holographic.

There's not an order to it. I mean, you know, we live life in a linear fashion. Yeah. We live life chronologically. You know, if you're going to get an acronym, it has to start with a letter, it has to end with the letter, you know, to be an mnemonic that works. you need a letter. So there's a deep, there's a, uh, uh, your, the propensity is going to be to, um, first connection, second agency, third purpose. One, two, three. And it's not like that. It's

really important that we get. You could start anywhere and, you know, and they're all, the, the three-legged stool is a useful metaphor there because they're all important. There's not, not one. Yeah. In some seasons of your life, you may be strong in one and not paying attention to the others. And in a different season of your life, right, they can switch to your point. Like it's not, oh, if the first one's not working, the others don't work. No, it's like at any point in time, one of these three pieces of the framework could be out of alignment.

Right. And you and would throw off the others, throw off your balance. So anyway, so that's one thing. So then to really dive into, I mean, we could spend a lot of time diving into each and maybe we will in further, you know, in further episodes take an episode for each thing. And that might be worthwhile to look at tomorrow, Chris. You know, because when we talk about connection, there is connection to each other. I'm just going to re-say what you said, but not as well. you know nothing happens worthwhile on your own you could say nothing gets built you know you

want to without others our connection to others is you know i mean everything from networking to the family unit to you know what expressing gratitude towards others this entire world of others our customers, our clients, our vendors, you know, those who we serve, those who are served by us. All of that is connection. And then connection also means are we connected? And you talked about this, connection to ourselves, connection to the bigger self. Connection to, you know, ourselves, a connection to

God, whatever you want to call God, whatever your relationship to that word is, the big S-self, as we say around here, you know, connected to that. And that really is a, it's related to our connection to others. There's a definite relationship that those two things have. And we access that through meditation. That's one of the, as a practice. As a practice. As a practice. we are connecting to ourselves in that way. And just the methodology of that connection is we release everything that's in between us in that connection because we're not getting connected to ourselves. That's right, right. We're always connected to ourselves.

It's just that we have things that are in the way of are experiencing that connection. There's never a time when you're not connected to source. yeah and there is mostly times most times there are conversations is a good enough word for that that are in the way of you're experiencing the connection you are to source there's

but meditation is really really useful for that so connection covers both those domains that's a lot of lifting that that word needs to do yeah right there's a world in either side of that. So I just wanted to take a minute and deepen that because it's important that you don't hear one or the other that you hear both.

Yeah, good. And just for the sake of the framework, connection really goes to work on the place of being, like how we're being, our being. In the world of yin and yang, there's being and doing, we could say.

And for me, connection in this framework is really about how you're nurturing or supporting your being. So I want to add that because you'll see in the framework here the other two deal with doing and then the bridge between doing.

So between being and doing. Can I, should I move to that? You ready for the next? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm good. Okay. So again, three-legance tool. You may move on. Cap, C-A-P, okay, the second piece of the framework, Dan, or leg of the stool is agency.

Agency is about choosing. It's about, I always love that quote, be the change you want to see in the world. To me, because it inspires purpose, it leads to purpose. But many people don't make the choices that would make their life better. They choose default. They choose hypnotic rhythm. They're not actually choosing. and agency speaks directly to you deciding something for yourself.

Like make a choice. And many people just, it takes a little bit of courage to do that. So it's easier to not do that. Right. Well, that's what we were talking about earlier. It was just going through it. Now, did we do hypnotic rhythm after we started recording or before we started recording? I don't remember.

I think it was before. I think it was before. I think it was before too. It's worth distinguishing that because that's, I haven't thought about that book in forever. And it's, it's really impactful. So we'll talk about that because I think that's. Yeah, I mean, Napoleon Hill wrote Outwitting the Devil. I want to say several years after they can grow rich, but he asked his family to not have it published until way later. And so it wasn't, it was been published in the last decade or so. Because it was, it was out there. I mean, if he had published, if they had published that 1930s or whatever, 36, maybe is when it was written. I mean, they would have been, you know, laughed out of the country. I mean, so, but, but now, now that there's a lot of stuff around law of attraction and a lot of, like, other conversations happening, fascinating that he was writing about that at time. Anyway, in the, it's basically a conversation between the devil and I can't remember who, Napoleon Hill.

Yeah. And the, basically the devil is like. 97% of the people are living their lives in what he calls hypnotic rhythm, which basically is going through the motion. And I think that's interesting. I think that speaks to why agency is so important. Because if you're stuck in hypnotic rhythm, you're not making choices for yourself or the things that matter to you.

Right. So from a mindfulness place to have a framework for mindfulness, then you can see why having practice, processes, processes and practices over time, daily, weekly, annually that you can bring to the forefront to practice agency, practice making decisions, practice setting boundaries, practice saying what you want to say. John Mayer, say what you want to say. Practice choosing. It sort of breaks that hypnotic rhythm and puts you in a more mindful state about the life you're creating. Yeah, that going through the motions, hypnotic rhythm thing is so, I mean, that's what we found ourselves in. That's,

you know, and that, and just that experience, that's what I'm saying, is it definitely takes more effort, more intentionality. It takes agency to quit than it does to just continue on going through the motions. Yeah, or to speak up. Like you said at the beginning of this recording, like I smacked you around or how you said it. But it took something for me to say, hey, I noticed something and I want to bring it up for our conversation. And it was scary. It was a little bit like, God, I don't want to offend Aaron or I don't want to

overstep my role in a partnership. And then the other side of it was, what's the alternative? Am I just, what am I just going to like, I see something? Am I just going to suffer it for the next year or however long we choose to keep doing this? Right. But that's what people do. And very, that is, I mean, you know, anyone listening, you really could just take a step back and look to see,

are, am I going through the motions? Am I suffering through? Am I not saying what there is to say? Have I stepped over what there is to say? Am I actively choosing and acting on my commitments in a way that's expressive of my purpose, which we'll get to in a second? and that space of agency, of autonomy,

of knowing that you can have it go the way you want it to go is critical to living mindfully, you know, what the purpose of our show is, what the purpose of what we're up to is, is to give people say in the matter of their life that's beyond the default context that we find ourselves in which in many ways we've defined as hustle culture, but even more, I think, pervasive than just hustle culture.

The world of business hustle culture is it. But in what we, the dumpster fire we find ourselves in in 2026. Yeah. You know, the pull is to resignation, is to despair, is to, there's nothing I can do about it, is to I will take care of my family and hope everyone else weather's this storm, but I only have so much space. Right. And having agency is a critical, I mean, it's one of the three legs of the stool for that reason.

Right. Yeah. Yep. It felt when working that framework out, that agency piece, I know that was really early on when you and I three, four years ago started talking about this collaboration, agency was sort of a thing for you, like a premise. Like when people have agency, the world will change. That's right. That's my calling in life is that people experience their agency. So everything I do is really wrapped up inside of people experiencing agency. Yeah. Yeah. And for me, meditation is an access to agency.

I mean, for me, that's, you know, you don't, you, if you are your thoughts, if you are your feelings, if you are your ego, and you have no agency in that, to the degree to which you are those things, you have no agency. Because you wake up in a mood, you wake up with thoughts, you wake up with opinions, you wake up with, you know, the, you know, the, you. the wind blows a particular direction or you see or you read a social media post or you hear someone speak and you're wrapped around the axon upset and disappointed or frustrated or or happy or joyous or whatever but it's all outside of you circumstantially none of it is about you having agency about saying directing your life about choosing your mood about choosing your orientation choosing your attitude that's without agency it's a leaf in the wind that's right so good so it was beautiful how in in in sort of distinguishing the framework

where agency really fit for for me as a bridge between connection and purpose like agency was about choosing so connections about being agency that if i'm being a particular way it's going to lead you to a choice right and and so out the an expression of connection then becomes the things you choose. Yeah. And and and the the third leg then I think we can move into that is purpose. So if you don't have purpose, then sometimes the things you choose aren't in service of the things you say matter. They might give you relief now. I might choose something because it gives me relief right now or it serves an immediate goal. But but but but as it relates to the horizon purpose is about the horizon that you're orienting yourself too. And that's about. Do you. And that's

about doing. So purpose and our third leg of the stool here, purpose is about what you're going to do with your life that you say matters. Right. And that's and again, it's not the third, like the last thing to do because you could easily say without purpose, I don't, you know, I don't have anything to connect to. I don't know what's the purpose of connecting to anything. You could start with purpose if you wanted to. You can start anywhere. It doesn't matter. That's right. leads to all of them. And then there's that power of, you know, having a purpose, right? Certainly this is Simon Sinek's big deal. Yeah, start with why or an infinite game. I find I'm going to do a workshop next month in February around my visioning process. And how do you,

because when I was in my 20s, my younger years of being in business and setting goals and vision boards, a lot of how I was taught to do vision and goal setting was about money and lifestyle. How many toys? How many investments? What's your bank account? What's your net worth? Like there was a lot about me, which when you're excited and have something to prove, those can be motivators.

But until they weren't, until it was like, wait, there's something bigger in my heart that wants to come out and play and it's not about what my net worth is. And it's not about how many houses I sell. It's about for me, and I think this is very common for people in a mindful conversation. Like, I want to know how do I leave the world better than I found it? Yeah, I think that's an inherent. And I think that is inherent, okay? So I don't know.

I think there is an inherent born with calling. pull for human beings to contribute to other human beings. I think we are called to do that. I don't think that. I think if anything happens where people are not doing that, something happened to interrupt it.

But this is anecdotal. I don't have, you know, this is my experience. And my anecdotal, and my anecdotal evidence for that is in leading, you know, programs for 30 years and asking the question, do you want your life to make a difference? I've yet to meet anyone who says no. Yeah. And people, you know, that's just how that is.

Yeah. Everyone wants their life to matter. Everyone wants their life to contribute. Everyone wants to have their life make a difference for someone else. and I just think that's sort of the but again if you're not connected to that if you're not connected to yourself

if you're you're at the effect of life or you have you know which is also an expression of no agency then that may seem like a pipe dream or something I can't do or I'll never get to or I'm not going to you know

that's right that's right be able to sort that out And so, you know, it's interesting both in because on one hand, I agree. I have even less data than you have. You have 30 years of data of asking the question, do you want your life to make a difference or matter? And be really, yeah. But so on one hand, there is this inherent thing I want to make a difference. And on the other hand, there is this hypnotic rhythm where we, we, we,

We don't know how to hold that big a picture. We say my heart really bleeds for or hurts for or wants to make a difference for X, but that we don't really know how to get our hands around a vision that we feel we, we're like, oh, well, this is what would change the world. But then we go, but I can't do that. Somebody else has to. I couldn't do that. Who am I to do that?

And that's because you're not connected to the capitalist self. And you're not connected to the person you are. you may be stuck in an identity or stuck in a mood or stuck in a something, but it's telling you you can't do it. And so that you forsake the real purpose for something less than and call it making a difference. Like, well, I'm just going to sell 100 houses. You got to take this with a grain of salt. But like you can say, well, I make a difference by selling 100 houses a year to people.

And every person who has a great customer service experience with me, I made a difference for. Not saying that's wrong, but what I am saying is if your heart was to say what would leave the world better than you found it, I don't think you'd say selling 100 houses with good customer service. I think there's something, some thing you'd want to leave the world. And that's, you can push back on that, but I think we tend to want to be the difference we think the world should have is not selling more houses. Yeah, I think you could, the argument you're making is solid. I don't, you know, And at the same time, they're making the argument that every interaction matters

and that every interaction that you leave someone happier than you left them. Of course. You know, that you took care of people. Those things do matter and they do leave the world a better place. And if you were connected to source, if you were connected to who you are in the way that we're speaking about it,

there's a likely larger vision. Yeah. Or another way to say that is if you're not connected to a larger vision of that, yeah, there's probably something interrupting your connection. Oh, that's good. Yeah. I like that. That's great.

I would also say it's, I would also say, first of all, 100% agree, all the interactions you have make a difference. It's just not the horizon. I just don't think it's the horizon that you're. orienting your life to. That's right. I don't think it's that it's right. That may be a milestone marker, you know, a mile marker on the way. Yeah. It could be the it it's the finite game you're playing inside a bigger infinite game. You might say like I'm going to for the next 10, 20 years, I'm going to sell 100 houses a year and I'm going to do the best job and I'm going to make sure

everybody knows it. But but absent of saying like what's the infinite game that could get passed on for generations, you're going to miss a horizon that could be really helpful as a filter for you. Yes. Which you had talked about. I don't know if you want to talk about that a little bit, but having that infinite game and that purpose really becomes a filter, becomes a thing that helps you make decisions in your life. Yeah.

Without it, you might be making hasty decisions that are absent of a bigger context. Yeah, I think that's a great way to say it. And using the purpose as a filter, what we're referring to. to there. What we're talking about is, you know, there's a million things that come up during a day, you know, that you could put your attention on. People looking for what's my next job, what's my next career? What do I do in this, what do I do in this scenario and this dilemma and this issue? How do I handle myself? How do I approach this? Yeah. Do I work with this client or not? Do I take this gig, all the different questions that show up that you could ask, you could use your

filters, a filter for, is this, does this bring me closer to fulfilling on that? Right. So using the purposes of filter for your action is one way. I mean, you know, again, just go back to attitude, you know, you have a horizon. you oriented toward that horizon in a way that's going to get you there or are you not? Yeah, that's great. Love that. Yeah, that's Gary Keller's.

A lot of his work was helpful for me, like in the one thing and then just being around his talks and thoughts for so many years. I think some of that, I think I lost my thought on that, but I think there's just, there's something about the purpose. Oh, I remember. It was about Jim Collins, actually, and built to last. Where he talks about built to last companies, the founders really had this ability to preserve the core of who they were

and also stimulate progress in ways that, stimulate progress usually was around technology. Like, let's bring in tools and resources that actually help our mission or our purpose. Compared to the comparison companies where either a company was so entrenched and who they think they were that they couldn't see technology. They were like blockbuster, you know, like internet movies. Movies on CDs mailed and that's not who we are.

Or the flip side of that being somebody who's so obsessed with missing out on the next technological bubble or boom, like in this case maybe AI, that you chase technology absent of knowing who you are. And so when you can have a horizon and be like, this horizon, is very deeply embodied in who I am and what my life is for, then when technologies come around or courses or certifications or opportunities, all those things get filtered through a decision that is related to the horizon, you're orienting yourself to. And that's the power of having a vision far enough out that allows you to make decisions.

Because if you don't have that, then you're like, oh, AI, oh, my God, I need to do that. And then, oh, the next, you start to feel like you're going to miss out on something and you make decisions that are not in the context of a bigger horizon. It's really well said, Chris. It's fabulous. I don't even remember anything to add. How's that?

Boom. Just nothing. Yeah. And this is, I think that really rounds out the three-legged stool. You know, again, that's about purposes about what you're doing. And so you've got connection, which is about being, agency which is about choosing. and then purpose, which is about doing. And I think it's, you know, you could add a million different legs to a stool.

But if you just try to think, what's the minimum viable distinction here that would give me the practices? Inside of each of those three legs of the stool are practices. There's no one moment of any of those three things that are going to create change for you. The change happens in a process over time. the cap acronym just gives you places to find a practice inside each one that you can commit yourself to over time the rest of your life. And that's what will create the change. But know that you're doing, that you're committing to the practices,

not because they're popular or trendy, you're committing to them because they orient you to a horizon. To something you say matters. Not because, you know, cool people do them like Aaron. because that's what matters. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think that's exactly right, Chris. I think that rounds out the three and do you use those as.

And I think we could look to see, do we want to, you know, spend more time distinguishing each one more deeply, how to access it, you know, what does it look like to deepen connection with self? What does it look like to develop your purpose? We could, you know, run a True North workshop. for people to develop purpose, callings, things like that. Yeah, I think there's some great places we can continue to bring usefulness to all of you that want to keep. The thing I love about, you know, if I go back to Ram Dass and the whole, like, we're all just walking each other home.

It's not like Aaron and I have the answers. But there are there are things that I think you and I are and have bumped into over time. We're like, hey, this would be helpful. if we were to put some scaffolding around this piece of it. You and I did that when we started this three, four years ago. It was, I knew for myself it would be more helpful for me to act on and bring my purpose to the world by doing it with people I'd want to do it with. And you are one of those people.

I'm like, I want to do something with Aaron. I'm more likely to show up if I'm doing it with somebody that I respect and like, like Aaron. And here we are, you know, years later, the good news is like we didn't quit we did we did have we were we had one leg of a stool for a while like we had connection and that was keeping us in the game and we had like a pinch of agency because we were choosing to show up and there were times we were like should we keep going we're like i think we should keep going and we chose anyway i think anyway i just think it's it's helpful

to to distinguish the things we say matter to us and i I think this is, for me, this has been really helpful. Yeah, I think it's great. I think it gives us a, certainly given me a new attitude toward the work we're doing in the mastermind. Yeah, so good. Speaking of mastermind, I mean, those of you listening, you know, as it is so far, it's still a pay what you want, you know, space for you to participate and practice connection

to these ideas, connection to other people having these conversations and ideas. So if you'd like to learn more about the Mastermind, the Mindful CEO Mastermind, where do we send people now, Aaron? Do we even know? Go to the mindful CEO.com. I know you can go to that domain and then just push buttons because there's a button on there that'll say join the mastermind or apply for the mastermind. But then if you click the application button, we can send you.

follow-up message with a place for you to kind of pick your level of financial participation. Yeah, that's great. We'd love to have you. And yeah. And you can get to the Realtors Edge and get self-paced mindfulness meditation training. You can reach out. I've got a live cohort of living a grateful life in a fucked up world starting probably after this gets published, but maybe not. It's on January 21st.

So if you're interested, hit me up. There'll be more cohorts during the year. So we've got lots of opportunities to play. Yeah, so good. Love it. All right, gang. Well, that was great. Thanks, Erin.

See, everybody. Peace.