KGCI: Real Estate on Air - The Downside of Positive Thinking in Real Estate

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

Summary:This episode explores the concept of "toxic positivity" and how an overemphasis on positive thinking can actually hinder a real estate agent's success. The discussion highlights the importance of acknowledging and addressing challenges, rejection, and negative emotions rather than simply masking them with forced optimism. Agents will learn how to develop a more balanced and realistic mindset that allows them to navigate the highs and lows of the industry with greater resilience and authentic connection to their clients.

Welcome, friends. It's another episode with Aaron and Chris, mindful CEO coming at you. Aaron. What's up? Hang on, I forgot to shut off my phone. Aaron was counting us down. Three, two, one. Yeah, I count us down three, two, one, everybody, if you didn't know that before I hit record.

Three to one, smile. Smile, here we are. Hey, cheese. Say positive thinking. Oh, yeah, positive thinking. Oh, yeah, that's where we're running today is positive thinking. And all the traps and the pitfalls and the pitfalls. and the Myers and the bullshit that gets collapsed with positive thinking.

Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of weird at first glance to hear the downside of positive thinking is you're going to think. I thought like, you know, this is the whole thing. Like the power of positive thinking, Norman Vincent Peel, you know, like Abraham Hicks, like, hold the right end of the stick. Just keep thinking the good thoughts, feeling the good feelings. So I know you wrote an article on Inman about something about it.

I don't remember the title? The problem with positive thinking no one talks about. I think that's. Okay. Yeah. So if you haven't read that, it's on Inman, go read it. But so pause it. Give me, pause it a something here, a thought for us to explore.

Yeah. Good. Well, I think the, you set it in your setup statement. And I think it goes unlooked at is, you know, I thought the whole game was positive thinking. Yeah. Mindfulness, baby. Mindfulness baby. Like somehow, you see, that's right there.

It's hidden in the assumption or there's an assumption hidden in that statement that positive thinking is better than negative thinking, that it's better to be positive. You should be positive. Positive is the way to go. Negative is something to be avoided. that whole world needs to be taken apart. Because if you don't take that apart, if you just live like the game is positive thing,

the game is to be positive. Just think positive, good vibes, man. And if you think that's the game, there's a problem in that because you have a hidden should. The hidden should. The hidden should. the shit that's hidden behind a rock and then the rock hits you in the fucking head

hidden shit. So there's a good amount of shame, embarrassment and guilt that shows up when you aren't thinking positive. Sure. Okay, well, what do you do with all that? You can't, see, the tendency

is if you're supposed to be positive, then what do you naturally have to do with that embarrassment, shame, and guilt? Stuff it. Stuff that shit. Stuff it way down. Think positive. You can't think guilt is a negative. I can't think.

I can't do that. That's bad if I do that. And you're just all of that. So do you get the texture of all that? I like texture there. Yeah. I mean, I get the experience of stuff. I'm a really good stuffer.

I'm a half glass full. I'm a glass half full. I'm a glass half full. I rose-colored glasses, baby pie in the sky, Pollyanna, all the words we have for this phenomenon, right? Right. But it's all, it's a quagmire. Oh.

You're on fire with the words today. I'm on fire with the big words today, people. It is. It's a, it's a morass. Oh, I'm going from one other. Drop in beats, baby. go. It's a morass of, it's a trap for bullshit because you're now, this is where toxic positivity

comes from. This is that world in which, you know, we're all good. How's it going? All good. You know, but you're not dealing with. You're really upset about this thing. And you can't express your upset because that would be negative. And that's where the whole thing of magical thinking came in for me when I was writing the article.

I used to have this orientation towards negative thought, like, well, if I give space for those negative thoughts, it's magically going to trash my life. Like, magical thinking works both ways. Like, there's magical thinking, like, you know, I am going to just wish this to happen. I'm just going to wish that whatever. my partner finally start picking up their socks or beat my wife beyond time, right? Like magical thinking. Like it's just not going to fucking happen. That's not, you know, no.

Right. Right. Right. More superstitious the other way. Like if I step on a crack, I break my mother's back, right? Like, yeah. There's an interesting tangent to go down. Like, we do have, but we do.

We do have this thought about jinxing things. Like I don't want to say something good is about to happen because I'm afraid I'm going to jinx it. Right. Yeah, but isn't that magical thinking? Oh, magical thing. It's 100% magical thinking. It's 100% but we do think that, right?

That's not, no one's listening going jingsing. I've never heard of that. No. That's super common and super normal to not want to jinx something so you don't say good news before it happens. Right. But it's interesting that there's no reverse of that. Oh, sure. Yeah.

Don't say happy things or go ahead. and say everything's because it's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's anti-gency to create it, right? It would be as magical to think that my saying it is likely to produce the result as it is by not saying it is going to produce the result. I mean, in fact, it's a little bit crazy given our fundamental background. It's hard to wrap my head around, dude, because I have programming that says your words create your world.

Yeah, so it looks like saying it would actually make it happen. Right. Isn't that the whole, isn't that the premise behind? Totally. You're way more likely to have it. But it's like, I don't want to jigs it. So I'm not going to say that good thing, which is fucking crazy. Because we do it.

So there's, okay, good. So there's that thing about your words create your world, right? That we do live, that the power of words is often diminished because we live. Most people live like words describe everything. and don't have any real facility with having their noticing where their words are creating. Because whether they notice it or not, there are things that words simply do not describe. You know, so the example is there's a wall right here. You can hear that, right?

No, but you can't hear that again. I'm banging on the wall. Okay, so there's a wall here. And no matter what my words. say about it if I try and walk through it. Yeah. It's going to hurt. Right. Right. I can't say it's a door. Right. And walk through it. My words can only describe that thing. Yeah. Right. Yep. But then there's a whole other set of phenomena that only exist in language. That wall doesn't exist in language. I could call it a door. I could call it a floor. You could call it a cat. But it was,

hurt if I tried to walk through it. My words only describe the thing. We happen to have aligned on wall as the word that describes something you cannot walk through. But there are things that exist only language that don't exist that don't have any, that don't have any way to be communicated other than language. That wall will communicate itself if I move. close enough to it. Language or not, if I try to move through it, I will hurt myself. Even if I never called it anything.

Yep. Okay. It lives in physical reality. But then there's things like love, friendship, kindness, anger that have, that exists only in language. That's a language phenomenon. I mean, there's a physical. sensation with it, but until I give it a word, it's just a physical sensation. Yeah. And, you know, the word for excitement and the word for fear described two different experiences that physiologically are identical. Hmm.

Wow. But one creates one world and one creates another world. But physiologically, they're the same, but one, so there's a world in which language creates the world. Yeah, that's a very quick primer on that. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Phenomena. So by saying this good thing is going to happen, right?

You're still not creating a world. You're still predicting a future, right? But does saying that give you maybe new actions to take and gives you, creates a future for you that to live into that somehow impacts you as more inspiring? Yeah, sure. But if we say it's going to jinx it, we live like it's going to jinx it. like I can't talk about the good shit, right? But we also don't have the negative of jinxing it, like, complaining, right?

Like, complaining about it is going to make it go away, whatever the opposite of it jinxing. Right. Don't talk about the good things because that's going to make it not happen. Talk about the bad things because that's going to stop it from happening. We don't have it like that. Right. Right. We don't have like, I'm going to talk about these bad things and it'll not happen.

Right. So we're just funny, and that's all sort of magical thinking, like, oh, I'm going to, somehow I could jinx things is a complete magical phenomenon, right? Oh, I just had a thought raised through another Cotty Womple. It's gone. I like, I mean, I feel like, if we were moving in. into the, that's a good distinction of magical thinking. And then we, and then there's positive thinking and the downside of positive thinking. Can we transition to that a little bit?

Yeah, sure. Well, so positive thinking, if it, it, so part of my not wanting to have negative thinking in my life. Like, I can't complain. I can't deal with this experience of negativity in my life. I should suppress it. I should just think positive thoughts. All that kind of stuff was a function of, well, if I give voice to those negative things

are going to happen. Like magical thinking, like, I can't. Right. So magically, that's going to happen. And, you know, from a law of attraction standpoint, there's the conversation for, you know, having negative vibrations will attract more negative shit in your life, which is fine.

But I'm not, I don't even argue that. I'm not even arguing against that. Okay. I'm not here to say that that's not the case. because I do think it's the case. But suppressing the negative thought doesn't make it go away. Right. You know, you can't layer icing on shit and call it a pie.

I mean, you could, but it would still just be icing hiding mud. So then what is the deal? What's, you know, then you've got, then you, so if you take the should out of it, then you get to just be with all of it. See, there's a space between positive and negative that nobody talks about. Yeah, yeah, right. And we've talked about this before. That's the space of neutrality, like in between the two spaces, having room for both spaces,

acknowledging that both spaces exist in any moment. Right. Right. That there's always the two ends of the stick. Right. And if you can acknowledge that there's two ends of the stick, you can then freely choose which end you're going to walk toward. Right? You can then get, okay, well, the negative is actually here. And it's, and, you know, actually tomorrow's meditation when you're, when this is out there. It won't, won't be anymore. But you can get it on the inside timer. Is gratitude when you have an attitude? One of the hardest things for people is how do I feel grateful when I'm upset? You know, what do I do with all that upset energy? What do I do with all that anger or disappointment or fear or.

And the downside of positive thinking is you can't positive your way out of that. You can't get enough. What was the name? Smalley. I'm good enough. Stewart Smalley. Stuart Smalley. You can't Stuart Smalley, you're way out of that.

You can't. I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. Gosh, darn it, people like me, enough out of dealing with. You know what? Yeah. I have this fear. And if you can just acknowledge the fear,

if you really can just learn to sit, not feet, what stokes the fire of it is resisting it, right? Resistance causes persistence. You and I are both fully in that ontological law of the universe that whatever you resist persists. So if you resist the fear, which is what happens in positive thinking a lot of the,

much of the time. Okay, not all. Like I said, positive is, I would choose positive over next. but I could only, there are times when you can only get there from neutrality, not from, yeah, by suppressing the negative. Because you think, in the beginning of what you think is, oh, positive's good, negative's bad,

then that's the resistance, because then I'm doing positive thinking so that I don't have the bad. Right. And you've now created a polarity. You've now created a villain. You've made the bad. a villain and so you're only willing to be positive. And in the willing to be positive, there's this part of your life you avoid. I don't want to look at that. I don't want to deal with

that. And that's where it becomes, I think, the toxic positivity part. It's like you're not willing to address or acknowledge all the parts. And by the way, that doesn't even help you live a full life because you can't acknowledge all your parts. You're in judgment of all the parts. aren't positive. Right. Some of the parts, right. Some of the parts. And that's, my wife has, my wife was talking to me about this, about the word for that in the

communities and which she engages is spiritual bypass. Hmm. Is that that's, you know, pretending everything's fine without having done the work to deal with whatever you're not dealing with. Yeah. Wow. Like I'm all good. You know, like I forgave them.

But you didn't do any of the healing work that was required, right? Like, right. Right. You know, you got to, there's whatever there is in terms of trauma or upset or disappointment or, you know, that's sitting with you. You, it was, I think it was two episodes ago. And we had talked about gratitude from the neck down. And I hear that here, right, where it's like positivity from the neck down. Like there's a, there's a, I'm positively thinking, but I'm not somatically feeling the positivity I'm thinking.

I'm just saying stuff that's positive, but under the surface from the neck down, I'm feeling fear, dread, guilt, shame. So my mind is saying one thing, but my lived experience is actually experiencing something else. Yeah, that's really good. And there's all sorts of different modalities to handle that somatic experience, right? Because, I mean, I find it's funny because it's mindfulness. it leads you to think it's about the mind but really it's it's well it's mind it's paying attention right you're using your mind to pay attention to your body to your experience yeah and but my wife

is an eFT practitioner and she does that and that's one way to do it um it's tapping right tapping he's tapping um you know we've had guests that do other things right we've had guests on the show to do other things. I was talking to a coach, a little coach of mine, and I forget he's got some Hawaiian modality. Oh, no, I think it's called. That he says disappears those things. And I was cool. I've never done that. That's interesting, you know. Let's check it out. So there's all sorts of different modalities to, you know, to go through those spaces. I mean, one hand, I suppose that's what psychotherapy and, sure, you know,

is four is to handle all that. I found mindfulness to be a really simple, easy, cheap, reliable way for me. But it's, you know, point is, point is, you got to find yours. Because you can't think your way into a positive, oriented, it's just not going to happen that you are going to have a default positive orientation to life about everything. Right. You just not. That's not the way human beings are designed.

We're threat-seeking machines. We're designed to seek out and survive potential threats. We're always on the lookout for threats. It's always that way. I mean, that's the, you know, whatever, however longer, you know, history. as a species. Right. Why we've survived is because we seek and survive threats.

So you're always going to be looking for what's wrong. Yeah. Well, I think, I mean, I'm hearing that part of the forum or the advanced course where it's like what you're given by, what is giving you your experience. It's like, and if you, if you can't be, what's that? What's the concern in the background that's giving you your experience? Yeah. And so if you are not mindful of, if you can't observe or notice, the shame, the guilt, the stuff that's running in the background, that is giving you your experience of hustle,

grind, people pleasing, not setting boundaries, all the things you're trying to do to stay positive. while at the same time not paying attention to the stuff under the surface that's giving you the experience called people pleasing or giving you the experience called I just got to put a smile on today. My experience of that behavior is I emotionally run my battery down until I until Chris explodes. I bottle until I explode. That's my, that's how I do it. I don't think that's unique. Right? I mean, that's a fairly standard way of doing it. And the key, I mean, for me, one of the, why this isn't for me, I apologize, it's not for me. This is why mindfulness works. And in general, you know, whether or not you have a work for you is another thing. But because you do, you are examining that guilt or that anger or that upset without judgment. Right. And that's the trick. Or that. That's a trick of it or one of the things people find difficult because in the world of positive thinking is good, that guilt is bad.

You're now, you've got a judgment on it. Right. And it's keeping and you're pretending the judgment is like that wall. Like it is bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. No, no. That's one of those things that only lives in language.

It's neither bad and they're good, but our thinking makes it so. It's the way it is. This is the feeling that it's not even guilt. You don't even really feel guilt or anger. In reality, you don't feel guilt or anger. You feel a particular way. Right. Physiologically, you don't feel it.

Physiologically, you feel some way. You have some combination of chemical and electrical impulses in the body. Right. And you label those guilt. Yeah. But there's the same thing. This is, again, this is excitement fear thing. You label one excitement.

And you label the other fear, but it's physiologically the same. So it's based on the context of the experience. And it's the opportunity or the opportunity is found in slowing down long enough to sit with the experience and notice what it actually is in the body without a label. Yeah. So then what is, can you, it feels like we've kind of built this up good now. So the downside of positive thinking is what? What is the downside of positive thinking? Well, you'll think it's good.

The downside of positive thinking is you think, you will think positive thinking is good. Like the wall is there and positive thinking is good, which automatically comes with this world where negative thinking and all the things you put in the negative bucket are bad, which then leads to this entire relationship to, those things are bad. Yeah. And those things are good. I should only go in the good direction versus these things are neither good nor bad.

Yeah. Except my thinking makes them. Yeah. Right. Which then if I bring it back to the reveal or the prestige, right? Let's do the prestige now. Right. now putting that all in the context of a CEO in production and performance and KPI

that when you are when you have the judgment this is good, that's bad. It limits your view of strategy. It limits your view of what's possible to implement because you because there's a whole bunch of stuff you're not willing to look at because it's not positive. Yeah. And not only that, but it limits your effect in this because you know, There's the prestige after the prestige. Yeah.

This is behind the curtain. Because you've abdicated responsibility for the entire thing. Yes. You've said that is good and that is bad without you being the person that said it's good or bad. Ooh, that's the real prestige. Right? Like you're not even in that equation. You've got no responsibility in that.

That's good. That's bad. I don't even have to be in the room. That's bad and that's good. No, no, no, no, no. That's not, that's not real at all. You just made that up and left the room. Could you say, I always latch on to your premise, right, about agency, right? Because I feel like you could, you could say based on this conversation that you really don't have agency. You don't have a say in your life if it's good or bad because it's because you're not being responsible for. what's good and what's bad. It's external to you like a wall.

You're like, that is good. Positive thinking is good. No, no, no, no, no. No, no. Who said it's good? Did you, if you're the one who said, that's the expression of agency.

That's what agency sounds like is I say that's good. And I said, yeah, that's bad. And I said that, which puts me in the middle, like, okay, I am now the, arbiter of what's good or bad in my own life, which you really are. It takes all the shit out of it. Yeah.

There's no more should in that. There's just me. And that's a more pleasant experience than that. And I'm going to go towards pleasure. I'm going to go towards joy and leave guilt over there. But guilt's not bad. Guilt is just there. There may be a lesson in there to learn.

There may be a communication to be delivered. There may be something to be let go of. There may be some relationship to complete. Who knows what? goodies lie in there. But if it is bad, well, fuck it.

I can't do anything about it. It's just bad. My mom's just a jerk and my dad was just this way. My, the business just sucks. And I can't talk about anything because I can't do anything about that stuff.

And that's just the way that is. And you don't want to hear it. And I can't talk about it and fuck it. But it's still a weight that I carry because it is the way it is. Yeah. Versus, okay. The way it is,

is the way it is, and I'm the one who's saying it's a problem. So the problem of positive thinking is it, unless you do the work, right? Unless you know, unless you avoid a spiritual bypass, as my wife would say, unless you do the work. And that work, I mean, you know, the meditation tomorrow when I do gratitude when you have an attitude is 10 or 15 minutes. We're not talking about like, you know, going to an ashram and, I mean, you know, if you have trauma and something really traumatic, you know, you need to do other work. But for the normal day-to-day trials and tribulations, 10 to 15 minutes of sitting a day should open up enough of a space for you to be able to. I mean, you know, it's hard to get better than Shakespeare, you know.

Start getting yourself to the source of nothing. Nothing is either good nor bad, but our thinking make it so. It's Hamlet, by the way. And if you can get that, then positive thinking is not a problem. Then positive thinking is, okay, I said it's positive thinking. Good. So I'm going to go in that direction. And I have total agency in that.

Yeah, right. Right. I don't, when someone says, how are things, all good? You know, okay, that's all good is I don't really want to get into it. Right. Yeah. But it's not pretending everything, you know, whatever. Yeah.

You know. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I feel like there could, there's an opportunity for another word besides positive thinking. Like, is there a different way you would describe that based on, let's say I am neutral and I choose my thoughts. And I'm like, I'm choosing this, what I call that like. Well, I just, you know, I mean, positive, the downside of positive thinking is sort of a catchy title for the episode because it's, you know,

because it's already a box for positive thinking. You know, I mean, I don't, almost that you could call it, you know, Larry. I don't, doesn't really matter what you call it. Larry thinking. You're calling it because you're, you're creating it. So call it what you want. But you know what it is.

You know you've done that work. You know that, you know, you're choosing that. And I haven't put any attention or thinking about naming, it something distinct from what your passes for positive thinking. I think, you know, mostly is it could be interesting to work out.

Now, here's the tangential thought I had, okay, if we're going to leave this for a moment. I do have the experience of magic happening in life. You know, and I love that. So I just don't want

there to be some negative connotation toward magic. I love having magic show up. I mean, on one hand, I guess we could do a whole different episode about this too, but it's all fucking magic, right? Like Einstein, you can either,

two ways to live, like, nothing's a miracle or everything's a miracle. Right. Right. And, you know, if I'm going to choose one of those two, I'm going to choose everything's a miracle. Which means it's all magic. And really, on one hand,

you know, you were a cell that divided. Yep. Okay. If you're listening to this, you were a cell that divided. It kept dividing and is still dividing to this day. That is half your mother and half your father and it is mutated. Yeah. You know, you're going to tell me, you know, you are a bag of electricity and water.

you know, listening to a podcast. You do not tell me you don't believe in magic. I mean, just don't tell me you don't believe in magic. You're a skin bag of water and electricity and you're listening to a podcast. That's fucking magic. I don't know. You know, whatever. It's all fucking magic.

Yeah. So I don't mind magical thinking because it's all magic, right? But the thing I was thinking, about in terms of magical thinking, particularly that I have found to be true and I have no direct explanation for it, but I have my own personal anecdotal evidence for this. And it's 100% how I live. Because I have enough, I've proved it enough to myself. That is, if I think I'm going to be late somewhere, as soon as I have the thought,

who I don't think I'm going to make it on time. And I call whoever that I said I would go be with and tell them that I think I'm going to be late. Yeah. I wind up on time. I mean, it's got to be 90 plus percent. Wow. It's the weirdest thing. And I always attributed to integrity and being in communication and, you know, the magic of that whole, of just being in communication.

That's where I, that's how, where I put that magic or the source of that magic is on what I, my version of my, my, my, yeah, the version of integrity that I empower, the definition of integrity that I empower is if you're not going to, part of it is if you're not going to do something, you tell everyone that is impacted by you're not doing it as soon as you know you're not doing it so that they can start to be responsible for what's not getting done. Yeah. But I have found that. And I don't have any other word for it, but magic. It's like freaking magic. But it really happens a whole time. I'd love someone else to take it on and see what happens. At any rate, so there's magical.

My point was there is magic out there. I mean, on one hand, obviously, skin bags, listening to a podcast is magic. There's that kind of magic. You know, and then there's the magic that, you know, Carl Sagan would have, or has argued that, you know, the, you only remember the dreams that come true. So it looks like your dream came true. Hmm.

You know, like, oh, I predicted that. No, you only remember. So there's a level at which things may get attributed to something that's, you know, correlated but not caused. Sure. You know. But I think it's an interesting and fun conversation. And I think, you know, the magical thinking I'm out,

I was personally. out to disappear was if I even have a negative thought, it's going to bring more negativity into my life. So I better not have negative thoughts. Right. That was the magical thinking that I really wanted to sort of attack in the article in doing this particular thinking. That was the magical thinking I wanted to eliminate. I think what I'm walking away with, like what I hear in this, um, We haven't talked about it yet here, but there is a, I feel like part of what sets this whole thing in motion, positive is good, negative is bad, you know, is the, is a bunch of, would you water and electricity and a bat, what'd you call it in a skin bag? In a skin bag. There's a bunch of us trying to figure out what's the right way to do it.

Like, will you tell me what's the way I should live my life? And you say, well, you should positive thinking, you know, complaining equals a garbage magnet. And your words create your world. And so I go, oh, so what you're saying is I should, this is how I should do it. And so then we live our lives trying to follow the dogma of positive thinking, never owning it. All we ever do is we're trying to guess at what somebody else said is the path to success. And so we blindly accept it. And as a result, we all.

also then blindly accept the opposite of that. And we can never get to ownership. We never get to agency because we haven't gotten to neutral. Well, you haven't started with ownership. You haven't started with, you know, you can't get to ownership. You've got to start with ownership. Ownership isn't a destination. It's the beginning.

You know, I'm going to live. And then if you, to underline what you were pointing to, Chris, it starts with just getting present, which is without judgment, which is neutral. It starts, you start a car in neutral. You don't start a car in park. You don't start a car in, I mean, okay, if I'm old enough to have driven a standard.

But you don't start the car and drive. Right. You don't start the car in reverse. You start the car in neutral. And that's the opportunity of mindfulness, in my view, is that it's a consistent opportunity to bring yourself back to neutral so you can choose forward or reverse.

So you can choose which way to go. Which from neutrality, you would have to be the owner to move. Right. That's great. I love that. You can't move out of neutrality and not be the owner because if there's a should there, you're not in neutral.

That's good. If you're in neutral, you'll notice the should arise. And be like, oh, look, there's a should. Yeah. Right now and down. That's a good one. If there's a should there, you're not neutral. That's good, man.

That's a good limit test. That's a little good, like, pop quiz in your life. Just check in and be like, feels like there's a should here. Yeah, that means you're, okay, good. So right there in the noticing of it feels like there's a should, you're a neutral. The moment you notice it.

That's the thing about meditation that people resist. That's maddening, right? I have a new title chapter. coming called Why You Won't Fucking Meditate. It is they think their mind wanders too much. Right. No, no, no. The moment you notice your mind wandering, that's the wind.

The moment you get, it feels like there should be a should. Do you know where your mind is? It's right in the present. You're noticing what's happening right now in the moment. You're noticing the should. And then you can just go, okay, well, you don't even have to really give a shit where the should came from. you could just go, okay, there feels like there's a should here.

Okay. What now? Yeah. If you just give that brief pause around noticing and celebrating because that noticing is coming back to the present. Mostly we don't notice the should. It's just there. Like it was there in the beginning of the podcast, the episode regarding mindful. Yeah, cool.

All right. A lot of juicy stuff. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. All right, well, let's wrap it there. Let's wrap it there. I think that was good, juicy stuff. Yeah, if you guys want to leave a view, we love that.

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Take some ownership. Yeah. And then for those of you that are going to be, if there's anyone listening that's going to EXPCon, my real estate brokerage convention, I'm speaking. Oh, nice. Yeah, the mindset, there's a better you mindset panel. I'm moderating a mindset panel.

Yeah, that's right. I mean to hear about that. It's awesome. I met with the panelists yesterday, and they're just, uh, spectacular people. It's going to be the best panel at the entire conference, for sure.

So if you're down in my Miami and you're in real estate or if you're in real estate, I don't even know if this has come out before. Oh, yeah. This is the date of that? My panel's on the 31st. 30th. Okay. Cool.

30th. Yeah, because I fly home on the 31st. Yeah, Wednesday the 30th. And at ESP Con in Miami, we could see you there. Otherwise, subscribe, like, share. Let us know what questions you got. We're always available for you. And namaste, motherfuckers.

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