KGCI: Real Estate on Air - The Real CEO Blueprint: Systems, Leverage, and Freedom in Real Estate

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

Summary:In this episode, Gogo Bethke lays out a practical blueprint for real estate agents to transition from being a technician in their business to a true CEO. The discussion focuses on the... critical importance of building repeatable systems, leveraging technology, and delegating tasks to create both financial wealth and personal freedom. Gogo shares her strategies for creating a business that runs itself, emphasizing a shift in mindset from "doing" everything to "leading" a team. This is a powerful, tactical guide for any agent looking to scale their business and reclaim their time.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Seven-figure success starts when you start thinking like a CEO. Welcome to the John Kitchens Coach podcast Experience. This is your host, John Kitchens. You're ready to think bigger and transform your business into a path to lasting freedom. What is happening everybody, man? Thank you guys. Tune in to another episode of Expert Mentors Live. And this is the traditional kickoff of the new year.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Go-Go, this is our sixth year of starting the year off together on Expert Mentors Live. So, man, I, you know, I look forward to it. So the team already knows, right? They're like, hey, we got to get go-go. When are we getting the date in? What day are we doing it? Let's get her lined up. I can not believe it's been six years.
Starting point is 00:00:47 For sixth year. How just doesn't, like I had to go back and double check. But it is our sixth year, which is absolutely incredible. And I appreciate you, you know, carving out the time. And I know kind of you're just at a fun spot in your life. And I know we'll get into that a little bit. But, man, How much has changed?
Starting point is 00:01:06 So much has changed in the last six years, this run that we've been on. And we traditionally had started these conversations around kind of where you were at at that time, right? It was the state of social media. I mean, you were the social media queen, the red dress. I mean, that was you. That was your persona. That was the brand.
Starting point is 00:01:26 And so much has evolved and changed. And it was like we were talking about, hey, what are we calling this? And I think I asked you, I'm like, can you change the title? Yeah, let's change it. Because so much has changed with you. And like I said, I look forward to this conversation every year, starting off with you. And I'm ready to dive in. I know you've got a lot of ground to cover.
Starting point is 00:01:48 But I would love maybe let's start right there, right? Change the topic, change the conversation. It's no longer the state of social media. It's just the state of business, the state of the business. And it's just an interesting evolution of all things. things that, you know, has happened over the last few years and kind of where you're at. I love to tell this story. Oh, my gosh, right?
Starting point is 00:02:11 Oh, gosh. That's why I asked you. I'm like, can we talk about something else? Not that social media is not important or not a part of my life. It's just as much a part of my life. And I couldn't get anything done without social media, but or achieve. And I'd get done, but to achieve, right, that stuff. But in the same time, I have achieved so much.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And I want to teach that because I truly achieve financial freedom and time freedom. and location freedom in my life. And I want to be able to share what I did to do that and help others to do the same if they wish so, right? Like nothing wrong with production and being in a hamster wheel, if that's what you want for your life. I just know that that's not what I want, right?
Starting point is 00:02:48 And that's not what I want to share anymore. Now, I'm all for production. Don't get me wrong. I'm all for making money. It's just making it in multiple different ways by working less and still having the life because I've been way too close to burnout, way too. I wouldn't say way too many times,
Starting point is 00:03:03 but one too many times. Yeah. And what is, is it just an over-obsession of pushing without in, in your mind, the right kind of balance? I mean, there's no such thing as balance. My definition of balance is just be present wherever you're at. So, like, for you,
Starting point is 00:03:23 is it just things that were neglected, things that just weren't given the right attention for you that caused that feeling? I'm smiling here when you said balance. Because I'm like, what is that exactly? So what I call balance and what somebody else calls balance is probably something totally different. I was actually watching Barbara Corcoran's interview last night. And she was talking about, you know, her life and what is she like and how she functions and all that.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And they asked her what is she bad at? And she said she's bad at relaxing. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm Barbara. Like, I don't really know. To me, relaxing is like wasting my life. Like, I can relax maybe like one of my New Year's resolution. is to read this Bible. It was one of the white Bible,
Starting point is 00:04:08 the gold, lettering, and rice paper, the very, very thin paper. So one of my resolutions for this year, New Year's resolution, is to read this Bible start to finish. Well, I can sit about two minutes at a time. And then I'm like, I need to get up
Starting point is 00:04:23 and I need to go do something. Like, I need to use my brain. I need to build something. I need to do something. I have to feel productive. For me, it's just like a high, almost like. It's like my adrenaline.
Starting point is 00:04:35 It's like I created something. Like I serve the purpose today. I achieved something today, right? So I actually enjoy that. I call that balance. It works just fine for me, right? But I do spend a lot of time with my family. I do work from home.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I only work Monday to Wednesday when I'm like, you can't talk to me because I'm not alive. And then every day I would say by 4 o'clock I am done. And every weekend I don't work. So Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I don't work. I have extended weekends for the rest of my day. I love that. And that's by design. That's through intent. And so for you, you know, you're like not, I mean, every minute is like their structure of when you're working, right? You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And, you know, the activities that you're in charge of. And it's one of the things that I really, you know, love about you is how you value your time because you know what you're worth. And I think that's where so many people give away, right, their time. I was having a conversation this morning with with with DJ Matt and DJ. And DJ was like, you know, that's one of the things that I just, I can't let slip away moving into the new year, moving into the future is I just can't let my time slip away. Because it's it's truly costing me so much, you know, financial, but also time with family, time with my son, time there. And it's just really getting a grip grip on that. And you have a love your take on it.
Starting point is 00:06:01 So I'll let you dive in because it really. state agents need to get this, especially they need to get it now more than ever, really understand the value of their time. I've never heard it put, I mean, I should put it this way. The time that really nailed it in for me when I finally understood it is that when I heard someone say, then an hour of your time is an hour of your life. Yeah. So if you look at your life as a whole, is that really how you want to spend it? So if you were on your dead bed right now and you know that your time is counted and all of us are on our dead bed right? on our time is counted, by the way, right? All of our time is clicking at the same time. Question yourself, is this really what I want to be doing? If I knew that my time is count, is this really what I want to be doing?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Is this the person that I want to be spending with? Is this the activity that I want to be doing? Does this make you happy? Does it make you the money? Is this? Or even if it makes you the money, does it really matter? Do you need to make that money anymore? Or would you be better off spending it with your 17 and a half-year-old who's going to be
Starting point is 00:07:03 fleeing or flying out of the nest here in a minute? it and then and then that's that. Yeah. Right. So that's the phase. I also, I think I'm one of our other calls. You only talked about the phases of life. Like if you, if I was in the phase where I was an empty nester right now, I would probably
Starting point is 00:07:18 be head down working because I don't want to have time to think. Right. I wouldn't want to have time to miss my children. I would be so busy building another multimillion billion dollar company just so I can keep myself busy. But that's not the phase of my life. The phase of my life right now is I have a 15 year old and a 17 year old. Then I have two summers with a year old.
Starting point is 00:07:35 one and what I mean three summers at one and one summer with the other yeah right so now I count things in summers right which reminds me I'm taking the whole summer off in the month of june I'm in Italy and then at the end of June we're going to go to expe can Barcelona and then from there we're going to go to um um monaco and from there we're going to go to it to Romania for a couple weeks we'll come back to florida then we're going to fly up to michigan visit family and then school starts again So I'm taking literally the whole summer off with my family. But let's talk about that time and how to know what's worth your time and what doesn't. So I want you to take, and this is a perfect timing for this because we are starting a whole new year over, right?
Starting point is 00:08:17 I want you to take your 2024 income, every money that you made in 2024, not after taxes, not after expenses, every penny, every dollar that hit your account in 2024. And I want you to be dividing that by 2018. Now, if you are a top-producing realtor, right, or a top-producing entrepreneur, you're probably really not working 20 hours a week. You're probably working way more than that. But let's thrive for 40 hours. Let's assume that you work a healthy 40 hours. That's 280 hours in New York.
Starting point is 00:08:50 So if you take that amount that you made, and many of you probably don't even know that number, and that's because you don't track your number, and that's going to be a whole whole other conversation. We can spend this whole time, Doug, and about that. That's going to be a whole other conversation, right? If you don't even want your numbers, get up the call right now and go do yourself a favor and figure out how much money you made last year. So you can know your hourly rate,
Starting point is 00:09:12 because this will probably be your biggest takeaway here today is to know what your time is worth and then charge taxes on top of it. So let's say it's a million dollars. You're going to take the million dollars or $250,000 or whatever that is. What do you think it's a reasonable number? John for an average income of your listeners? I would think, you know, they're 250 up. You know, let's just say they're kind of an emerging talent type of, type of agent.
Starting point is 00:09:41 They're, you know, kind of at the point they want to really take it serious and grow a business. Being able to really, you know, hey, I have aspirations to get to seven figures. I'm a couple six figures. I'm not complacent. I'm not getting, you know, let's let's go, let's go. Let's make a run. So let's just say 250 to 300. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:59 So I'll do the math with 300,000. We're going to take 300,000 divided by 280, so 2080. And if you're making 300,000 in 2024, or I should say if you made 300,000 in 2024, your hourly rate currently is $144 an hour, which means that you will not or shall or should not ever do anything ever again. That doesn't make your 144 bucks in that hour. If you're doing that, you're losing money. and that is including your laundry,
Starting point is 00:10:28 that is including walking your dog, that's including groceries, that's including taking out yard signs, that's including answering to an email, to a DM, to all of that. I have 14 assistants. I don't do any of those. I couldn't tell you the last time
Starting point is 00:10:39 I ran a load of laundry, not because I don't qualify. It's just because I know I'm losing money every time I run a load of laundry. Think of it this way. Most people would say, yeah, but I can run a load of laundry
Starting point is 00:10:50 to listen to the Zoom call at the same time. Basically, yes, you're going to. your brain is not going to comprehend it because you're not giving your full attention. How do you overcome somebody that that has that type of scarcity mentality or has, you know, I've heard people, you know, oh, well, like, you know, it's good, good exercise and, you know, it teaches good values and doing things like that. Like, how do you help people overcome that type of mindset, the scarcity type of mindset to kind of let go? and kind of be able to to move forward from that.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Can I be harsh? I wouldn't want it any other way, Go-Go. Let's just put it this way. Four people as the question, how much just something cost? Walthy people as the question, how much money is this going to make me? Yep. So, let's play the game. Let's see you're thinking about if you should or should not hire a personal assistant.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And your personal assistant will help you with every. So let's talk about my house assistant, right? I call her my personal assistant, but she really actually doesn't work with me because I'm on lives all day. So by the time she shows up, I'm already working. I'm when she leaves, I'm still working.
Starting point is 00:12:03 So I usually don't actually see her. She helps Dwayne run out household. She does laundry. She goes grocery shops. Like, I'm going to speak tomorrow. I need a pair of nylon. She's a target right now buying nylons. Because I can go to target because I have to be here, right?
Starting point is 00:12:15 So she helps with literally anything that you can think of that physically needs to be near me and needs to get done. Okay. So let's say. you getting someone to do laundry for you. Let's say it would cost you, how much do you think, John, in your area, if someone was to come over, a stay at home mom, who drops up the kids at school, gets to your house around 9, 930, while the kids are in school for two, three hours, she runs a few laundries for you, picks up the house every single morning, two, three hours
Starting point is 00:12:41 a day. How much do you think that person would charge hourly? 20, 25 bucks? Okay, so let's make, let's do 25. So the math is simple. Okay. So $25, right? We calculated that your hourly rate currently is $144, right? Not yours, but the listeners. Okay? For the sake of the conversation. So if you're hiring this person, most people will look at it that this person is going to cost me $25.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I can do my own wrong rates like riding a bike. I can do my own money. I'm saving $25. Are you really saving $25 or are you losing $119? Because if you know what you're good at and you stay in your lane and you do that you put your head in the sand and that's what you do you do the activity that makes you the $144 how many clients could you get in that hour so are you really losing 119 i don't think so i think you're actually losing way more than that because if you did what you're really good at and
Starting point is 00:13:40 you stayed in your lane you would get yourself probably one two three four five clients and if you got one two three four five clients let's see you got five let's see you got me in the middle let's see you got three clients and your average commission is 10 grand that's $30,000 you could have made that hour by lead generating for yourself and instead you run a load of laundry. That's right. That's why you don't have money. Allocation of time. But it's all the mindset shift first, right? And it's just really starting to, you know, know your worth. And also only works. You can be sitting back and sipping mimosa as well. Someone's only doing your load of laundry. There's a tradeoff, right? Like you can you can do those things and buy back some life, buy back some freedom. But that's kind
Starting point is 00:14:24 an expense. That's not an investment. And I think that's, you know, that type of shift. And it's the biggest thing for where I see how the only reason I believe you should be in real estate, residential real estate sales is to uncover opportunities to invest in for wealth. And so it's invest mentality. You're investing in talent. You're investing in labor to free up your time to go focus on things that will bring you freedom and get you closer. That's the only reason, right? It's just like, just tell these guys all the time, and it's like, you're building a team, the team should just be uncovering opportunities for you. That's the only reason you should have a team in real estate. And so really understanding that investor investment type of mentality and the first
Starting point is 00:15:11 thing and the first person you have to invest in is yourself. Yeah. It's so good. That's what I believe it starts go go, right there, the mindset. You're trading your life for money. trading a part of your life for money. So are you really planning? How do I say this? Are you really wanting to trade an hour of your life for a load of laundry? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:37 No, I love that. So, okay, go go. I get it. All right. I'm going to, you know, I stand what that is. I'm going to make those hires. I look. I start small.
Starting point is 00:15:48 You know, now what do I do? Right? kind of as the direction and like where's the direction of the business going you know what's changing what's not changing i've got more time where do i allocate my my new time now yeah so i that would be different for everyone right so now that you know your hourly rate and you know your income i want you to take a step back at 10,000 foot you and look at your business it's going to be different for everyone and i want you to look at where did that money come from literally did it come from buyers that it come from sellers they did come from open houses that it come from zilolis
Starting point is 00:16:20 Did it come from events? Did it come from? Where did it come from? They come from with Facebook, Facebook ads. Where did it come from? So when you're making your first hire, when you figure out, usually when you look at your book of business, usually you realize there's two reoccurring things. There's multiple, but two that happens over and over again.
Starting point is 00:16:37 That's what my research shows through the years, right? So maybe for you is Facebook ads and open houses. So you hire this new assistant who's going to help you with everything else and it's no longer worth your time, right? And guess what are you going to be at, Facebook ads and Open Houses? houses. You're going to double down on that. So while this person is helping you to run your life so you can have sanity when you come out of this office, right? You are going to go head down, hard work, double down on what you know it's working. When you double down on what you know it's
Starting point is 00:17:05 working and you're no longer spending your time on the data entry of the everyday need, and greedy that also needs to get done, your results just quadruple because you're only spending time on the things that make you money. Does that make sense? So I would want you to start with that. And eventually, now you're going to be making four or five times the money, right? So I can give you an example. The most money I've ever made, I don't know without a personal assistant, because I had a personal assistant. I had Christine for 11 or 12 years of my career and I'm 14 years in, right? So I hired a person assistant before I could actually afford one to be honest.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That's a great. So that's a great point right there. So in, and that is it too, right? It's like make the hire right before you can afford to make the hire. And so in the early days for you, you know, mom, business, like, what were all the things that filled her bucket? Because I think that's where I hear a lot of agents like, well, what would they do? What would be all the things that they would do? Well, okay, now I understand the math equation.
Starting point is 00:18:08 But still, what are those things? What would they do? So I started with what I, can I say what I suck it? Yeah. So I have, I would call myself an organized chaos kind of person. I'm very organized in my head. Now, if you're going to make me file that into an actual paper file, it's never going to happen.
Starting point is 00:18:27 If you're going to ask me, where's the file for 1-2-3 Main Street? I don't have one. Everything is in my head. I know exactly what you find it. I know what email to print. I know who sent it. When they sent it, I know which side of the page I picked a note on. Like, I'm very visual and I'm very organized.
Starting point is 00:18:39 But when you have a lot of businesses and as you're growing with things, right, we all naturally have super-duper skills and we have things that we just suck at. Hire the things that you suck at. That's the first thing they're going to take. take off of your plate so that in my case I can be successful top producing agent and be organized. So when someone comes into my office, there's not a pile of paper this high. And when they're looking of what they need, I'm like, oh, it's somewhere in here. Right. So that would have been me in the past, right? Today I'm super organized, but I have 14 assistants. I literally have an assistant
Starting point is 00:19:10 for everything from design to emails, to websites, to numbers, trackers, to, you name it, I have it. Right? Because I hire out my weaknesses. So I would start with weaknesses. I would also start with things that you might love and you good at it, but it's not making you the money, right? So, for example, bookkeeping, your taxes, you're answering your emails. Like, you might love it, right? What does it make money? No, it's at the back end. You already made the money.
Starting point is 00:19:34 You just have to respond to your bookkeeper where it went, right? Or where did it come from? So I would try those things out and really just put your head down and do the things that you're really good at. Now, after they have to get organized, then you're going to start thinking on all of the things that are like, oh, I could be doing this. And now there's two of us, right? So now we have 80 hours because alone you have 40 hours if you're working normal hours, right?
Starting point is 00:19:56 And then now you have one more of you. So now you have 80 hours worth of work you can get done in one week. So now after everything got organized and you guys got a good rid on and understand each other and how you work. Now let's say this person still has 30 hours left or 20 hours left, right? Now what can they do? You know what they can do? They can start building you all of those businesses that all of these ideas that are in your head, that you're like, oh my gosh, it's such a great idea, but I don't have any time or I don't know where to start or how to do it.
Starting point is 00:20:23 That can be on the computer over there, Googling it. They can be on the computer over there, setting you up all of the steps and go high level and creating your course and setting up the camera and the lights. And all you need to do is sit down and shoot your course. So the thing too. So, you know, Christine's a great example, right? With, you know, with you for what, eight? What do you say? 11 years?
Starting point is 00:20:44 She's been working together. 12 years, we've been working together. So, you know, obviously we know what happened before this first, you know, episode of you and I kicking the year off two months later in March of 20 with, you know, the world getting shut down. But what it did is it unlocked the global workforce, right? It unlocked talent all over the planet. And, you know, and the reason it did is because the talent was going into offices.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Now the talent is at home. And it really unlocked a lot of being able to find really, really skilled and talented people all over the globe and getting into an affordable, you know, salary range that we can really apply to, you know, to small businesses or agents in particular here we're talking to that are just kind of breaking that six figure, multiple six figure range. Now they have, you know, some dollars. So for you, it was in person, right? Would you say, could an organized, chaotic, organized individual agent, do they need somebody in person? Or could they go the virtual team member route in today with today? Let's back it up to. 12 years ago was what, 2012? They were no yet. Did he have Wi-Fi? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Maybe via Wi-Fi. But absolutely. I mean, I would not start with an in-person today because you, more than, unlikely can afford it just yet, right? With the 25 bite hurt, but can you afford five bucks? Yes. An hour? And if you can't afford five bucks an hour, skip Starbucks today.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And you'll be fine. There is your first VA. Absolutely what I do different today than I did it back then. Back then I didn't have a choice. Today I have a choice. So I would recommend starting with a virtual assistant. Here are a couple of tips about virtual assistants. Actually, if you go on my, so today I'm going to give you guys,
Starting point is 00:22:41 I have some bullet points. I want to make sure we cover. You have sent to the new year. I did. I did a lot of free stuff. But in order for me to be able to get these to you, because we couldn't figure out how to do the links in a chat where you can just click it, right? So what I want you to do is go on GoGo's real estate on Instagram. So my name is Go-Go. If you go on Go-Go's real estate on Instagram, I'm going to give you these keywords. So when I say keyword, write it down. Then you can go to my Instagram and comment that keyword on any of my post or you can DM it to me.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And my system will automatically send you that specific thing that I'm talking about, okay? let's talk about virtual assistance what do I recommend I recommend for you to have two the reason why is because it's going to take about three months 90 days for your virtual assistance to kind of come up above you know head above water you're going to spend all this time you're going to invest it into this person you're going to train them and understanding who you are and what you do and how you do it and then they're finally ready to help him they get pregnant here you are you're going to have to hire another one you're going to have to start a 90 days over and you're going to have to train them and then by
Starting point is 00:23:42 they get trained they realize they don't like working for you and then they quit right And then you're back at the same roller coaster. So I recommend to have two for every job, have two. If one quits, you have the other one. Doesn't affect your business whatsoever. Okay. So I would recommend two. The locations I recommend them from, most of my virtual assistants are from Brazil.
Starting point is 00:24:02 The reason why is because the time zone. The time zone is only one to two hours away depending if it's, you know, those American time changes that we do twice a year. So, but most of the time, it's a one hour difference. Or for half a year's one hour, half of years is two hour difference. And they don't have accents. Like, their accents are better than my accent, right? So that's how good they are.
Starting point is 00:24:23 So I recommend Brazil. Now, if I have a digital person, a web designer, a video editor, or a numbers guy, like I always have an Excel sheet numbers guy because I love trackers. My trackers have trackers. Those four jobs I would hire from India or the Middle East. Okay. So my website guy, my video editor guy, is from India, and then my numbers guy, He's from India too, actually, now.
Starting point is 00:24:48 But my old numbers guy, before he left, he was from Pakistan. Okay. Now, I have an amazing, if you're wondering, yeah, Google, but where do I find them, how to train them, how to pay them, all of this stuff, right? Go to my Instagram. So GoGo's real estate and comment the word virtual. My automation is going to send you based on that keyword, right?
Starting point is 00:25:10 It's going to send you an e-booklet. And you can follow that e-booklet, step by, step by step by step, how to find them, how to train them, what Facebook groups to join so you can find them, so it's not costing you money. After you read that ebook, like we decide that you don't want to do that, you just want to hire them. I also gave you a staples easy button right there for the company that I love and trust for you to hire it through them if you don't want to go through the process of finding
Starting point is 00:25:31 them and hiring them yourself. Okay. So again, the keyword for that one is virtual. Okay. Can we talk a little bit about agent attraction? Absolutely. because increasing headcount into the real estate business solves a lot of problems. So in fact, it can solve almost all problems.
Starting point is 00:25:51 So definitely let's talk, agent attraction. Let's just say it changed my life. And it solves, yes, pretty much all of our problems. Yeah. Anything that money can fix, it solves that problem. Yes. So let's talk about that. I did come to EXB.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Can I say balls to the walls? Yes, you didn't. Okay. I did already. Yes, you can. Yes, you did. So I did come to EXP for agent traction. I was already a tap producing agent.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I knew how to do a transaction. I'm assuming you can't forget how to do a transaction, right? It's like riding the bike. But I wanted, I didn't want to be 67 and doing an open house. I started losing my patients with my clients that were buying RIs the day of closing and then we couldn't close because their income to debt ratio went up. And there I was working for them for 60 days and not getting paid. and then I started really voicing my opinion
Starting point is 00:26:43 and I was like before I ruined my own reputation because I'm losing my patients, right? Let's have a solution to this problem, right? Because I knew that I'm not going to have the same enthusiasm and the same patient and the same work, not ethic because the work ethic will always be the same, but the same excitement towards work than I had in my 20s or my 30s, right?
Starting point is 00:27:05 So with that being said, when I came to ESP, I knew I wanted to do agent attraction. I wanted to do Asian attraction for multiple reasons. I wanted to have a solid source of income that comes in on the 20th of every month. And then I also wanted to have a source of income that is not tied to my production. So what if I get sick? What if I get pregnant? What if I hit burnout? What if I want to go to Europe for two months?
Starting point is 00:27:23 What if I just want to spend some time with my family and take a breeder? Right. Can I do that? I was not able to do that as an agent in real estate because I was on the production rollercoaster. And I needed to get off of that. So that was my solution. And then my next solution was stocks, right? I wanted to have a retirement plan.
Starting point is 00:27:39 So I was planning I'm bringing 40 agents a year. I was never planning to ICAN, but I was planning to ICAN my own way. And the way I plan to ICAN is what happens when you bring an agent? You get stocks and you get revenue share, right? So you get $400 worth of stocks when they close their first deal. Well, if you bring 40 or sometimes 400, how much is that? Yeah. That's my icon.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So if you ask me, I iconed every year. I just don't have a piece of paper to prove it, but I have the stocks in my account because every time I bring an agent, they close their first deal. I get $400. There's my icon in the end of the year. So I did it for you. You didn't have to travel. And you didn't have to do all the requirements that come with it.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Exactly. It's just another way of I can. Right. So I strongly recommend learn the company, everything they have to offer, use every benefit that the company has to offer. Because when you use it, it's easy to sell a product that you use in yourself. Right. So when you know everything that the company has to offer,
Starting point is 00:28:36 from production to agent attraction to the icon program to the revenue programs to you name it right how many different teams we can have the husband and wife the standard team the domestic team the mega icon team all of those then you can sell the product okay now when you practice it and when you use everything that this company has to offer i guarantee you and even though i can't say guarantee but i guarantee you with every hair on my body right that you will win your life will change AXV has changed my life. So with that being said, when your life will change, when you put all of these things in practice and you start seeing that income and you start seeing that retirement and you start seeing that
Starting point is 00:29:14 freedom that it provides, you won't be able to shut up about it. You will tell everybody, you will go on the closest mountain top and yell it for everybody that would listen. I have two requirements for agent attraction. You want to guess what those two requirements are, John? Two requirements for agent attraction? I was thinking, you had me thinking about the customer journey and I was like, like, you know, because, you know, the customer journey, you're becoming a promoter,
Starting point is 00:29:39 but you got to be an advocate before you can be a promoter. And by definition, an advocate is somebody that gives a testimonial and a review. Well, you can't give a testimonial in a review unless you've used the company and know what the company provides. So I was still connecting the dots on everything that you were saying because of, of understanding the customer journey. Like, you're never going to be a promoter if you're not an advocate. You have to be an advocate.
Starting point is 00:30:03 You have to show the life that this company provided to you because people going to want to have the life. The life that EXP provides is the byproduct. Or I should say when they see your life, EXP is just a byproduct. They want the life. They're signing up for the life that the company is going to provide. But if that company just happens to be EXP, right? But the two things that are my requirements to have an agent partner at EXP, I'm going to make it super easy for you. Number one, have a license.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Number two, have a pulse. Yeah. If they have these two things, I would love to partner with them at AXP. But with all joke aside, you can actually be more strategic on who you want to partner with and then have a control over your income, right? So when I joined the company, I wanted to have the agent who is between $2 million and $4 to $6 million, ideally between $2 to $6 million. If you ask me why, you're the reasons why.
Starting point is 00:30:58 At $2 million, they're almost cappers. That means they can, they know how to do transactions. they know how to contact their broker, they know how to fill out their addendums. I don't have to hold their hands to the process. They're not going to blow up my phone every two hours. Oh my gosh, someone emailed me. What do I say?
Starting point is 00:31:15 They know what to do. They also got a taste for money, so they want more of that. And if we can get, if they are already at that $6 million, I can get them to icon like this. So my ideal agent is between $2 to $6 million in production. Okay. Now the question is, who is your ideal agent? Who do you want to partner with?
Starting point is 00:31:34 Also, my ideal agent happened to be me at that time. Because when I joined EXP, I was a $7 to $9 million producer, which for me at Michigan pricing was about 40 transactions in average a year. So it was easy for me to talk to that ideal agent partner because I was it. I knew their pain, I knew what they're doing, I knew what they needed, I knew who they are,
Starting point is 00:31:57 so it's very easy to have a conversation with someone who's just like you. So I would say your ideal agent, or what I like to call your low-hanging fruit, the lowest-hanging fruit, is an agent who's just like you. What is that caliber of agent? Write it down. Next question. Where are you going to find them?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Where are they at? Do they go to events? Do they usually end up showing them up on Zoom calls? Could you have coffees with them locally? Could you hit them up on Instagram? Are they on social media? Well, for me, guess where they were on social media? Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Where are they located? I don't care. EXP is in every state. All I care is that you have a license, a pause, and you produce somewhere between 2 to 6 million. And you can be anywhere in this country or in 24, 27 different countries. Okay?
Starting point is 00:32:43 Now the question is, how am I going to find them? How are you going to have that conversation? Now that we know who they are, where they add, and what they do and what they need, we open up that conversation. I'm like, ooh, that's the hardest part because nobody wants to be sold, but we all want to win, right?
Starting point is 00:33:01 So I decided, I never called in real estate either. So this is not going to be the time when I start learning scripts and hitting up people and burning bridges. Like that is like just the idea makes me twitch. Yes. So I said, okay, I'm going to do it how I did it with the buyers and sellers. How did I do it on social media? I create some videos. I tell them about the product.
Starting point is 00:33:20 When they're ready to raise their hand, there is a button to push. They push the button. They show up in my calendar. I have a good old conversation like you and me are best as friends. Here's what I have to offer. Do you like it? You like it? Great.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Do you want to sign up? Yes. here's the other button, push that one, you push that button, you're going to the EXP, hooray. Christy's going to take it from there. We're going to have a good old conversation. She's going to guide you through the onboarding process, and then we are partners, and then I'm going to tell the world,
Starting point is 00:33:42 then you decided to join EXP with me. That's my process. And then you might wonder, OK, Go-Go, but where's the button? How do I get that button? Right? Well, it's easy. I have, I have partnered with EXP, and if you are an EXP agent,
Starting point is 00:33:58 there is an elevate coaching program for agent attraction and I think it's only like $900 because my actual agent attraction course is three grand. So if you're an AXP agent, you can get it for $900. You can go to my Instagram and comment, elevate. I'm going to walk you through all of the steps of how I built everything and I will even give you a copy of my funnel. Now, you do have to build that, but just kind of like a couple of clicks of a button. If you don't even want to do that, I have a staples easy button inside a course and
Starting point is 00:34:24 my team will build it for you. But just take the first step first, comment, elevate. If agent attraction is what you want to do in 20,000. 2025, just comment elevate, get that course, watch the videos, push the buttons, have your own funnel so you can do agent attraction in 2025 with the push of a button. Good? Love it. I love it. To the next subject. On your point, I wanted to, because you were comment about this earlier about agents and where they need to focus.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And one of Vern Harnishes top book recommendations coming into 2025 is called Scale Up Faster. And it's the secrets of the world's quickest growing bootstrapped companies. So they did a two and a half year kind of deep dive on unlocking the secrets of the top 1% performers among the Inc. 5,000 of private companies in America. And the number one thing is that they had one way of selling that had a high, close. close ratio. One focused approach. Those were the top of the top of the top. And I think that's just a great just like understanding and just be like, okay, the top 1% of the Fortune 5,000 private companies, they focused on one. I'm going to focus on one. You laid it. You just gave everybody the process. I mean, some of it just flew right over their head. For some people,
Starting point is 00:35:55 they're like, what? And then, and then a small few got it. For those that got it, I'm telling you, hit elevate, she just laid out, she just gave you the one process. And if you want proof in the pudding, I have attracted over 270 agents personally in my frontline. Those turned into 1,500 agents over time. And I have made over a million dollars multiple times in the, like, probably, I haven't been mad, but last year, close to a million. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:22 In revenue share a low. Yeah. Yeah. So the proof is in the pudding. I'm never teaching anything that I haven't done myself. And I'm an open book. You can ask me anything. Find me on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I'm Google's USA. I teach what I do. But again, and I also never call the single agent. Yeah. They show up in my calendar and that's what I teach. I teach agent attraction. I don't teach recruiting. So if you want scripts and if you want like how to mass email people and
Starting point is 00:36:49 annoy them every single day seven times, that's not me. You know what's crazy too? So I mean, because I'm having conversations with Matt and DJ. And I asked them the question this morning. And I was like, because, you know, as they're bringing agents in, I said, how many of the agents know how to communicate on a phone? They go, hardly any. And I'm like, why is there a business model that's prospecting based of dialing phone numbers? Especially the new generation like my kids.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Like when I call my kids, it's like, I'm like, how do you, that's how you talk to each other? Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, and it's on FaceTime. Like, they ain't calling nobody. But the funny part is they face time each other, but they're not actually in the picture. They show like the ceiling where the camera is face down on the bed. And they don't know if you face time each other.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And there's like seven of them on there. It's wild. It's so different. But like the same way when we look at our parents and we're like, oh my gosh, did they do things jackass backwards, right? Like now I'm like, that's probably how our kids look at us. And that's how we look at them. We can't possibly understand how their generation is going to fund?
Starting point is 00:38:03 I'm like, how are you guys going to sell anything to each other? You can't shake hands and you can't make eye contact. Yeah. But I'm sure they're going to figure it out. We figured it out. It's totally different how our parents did it and their generation is going to have a totally different time of sales. But I agree with you. You're like, why would we be cold calling strangers?
Starting point is 00:38:21 Like, just hit them up on Instagram. That's where everybody's at. Hit them up on acts. Hit them up on TikTok. Hit them up on LinkedIn. You know what I mean? 100%. So do we want to talk about leveraging and multiple streams of income?
Starting point is 00:38:36 You know, we've got the right mindset. We understand what our time is worth. We know where to make the leverage, the investments, right? We're investing in giving us more time. We know we need to increase headcount because that is building us something that we don't have to trade time for dollars. right and in understanding the math equation right it's time for dollars dollars for time then dollars for dollars right so we we need to build part of the machine that's generating revenue that we can take
Starting point is 00:39:10 that revenue and reinvest back in and make our money work for us so you know i think as as you kind of get to that point the one thing um and i i want you to to touch on this is how important And one of the questions, and it's the Bezos question, Joel personal and I were talking about it on the last export mentors in December. And the whole conversation was around not what's going to change in the second half of this decade, but what's not going to change. And you look at it from a marketing perspective, it's about building the database. It's about building the list. And you have a massive list. and one of the things that's not going to change is contacts database list.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Touch on that and why that's so important for agents moving into the future, building their database. I'm so excited. You said I came prepared. So one of the things, I talk about email database. So for example, we all think we own our social media. You don't care how many followers you have. You don't have those followers.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Facebook does. Instagram does link this does. They own it. You could wake up tomorrow and they cut the cord and there's nothing you can do about. that right so that means what what if worst case in area let's be devil's advocate to wake up tomorrow and all of the Facebook followers that you have worked the last 11 years that just proof gone you can't even log into your account you don't even exist because they've wiped you clean for whatever reason accidentally sometimes if you watched um um um facebook guy what's his name is that exactly so if you watch
Starting point is 00:40:44 his video yesterday he's like oh yeah he accidentally deleted a lot of accounts it could have been your career. It could have been 12 years of your life. And oops, yes, it was an accident. Okay. So with that being said, you have to have your email database done. So you need to have a database that you own. So something that you can fall back on, right? I have a massive database, but I have a very active database. So I have 15,000 emails that I email every single day, which you, to me, that does, somebody said, Google, that's a lot of people. But to me, I'm like, I have just at Instagram, I have 89,000 followers, 15,000 of that I'm thinking what are the other 70,000 doing? Like, why don't you give me your address?
Starting point is 00:41:25 I have a lot to give, right? So it's going to be hard work to collect this data, just like everything is hard work. If it was easy to do it, everybody would have done it already, right? But I strongly recommend that you concentrate in 2025 on building your email database so you can own the data of your followers or the people of your clients. So we said 15,000 emails, one email a day, any idea how many emails that is? Mind you, I started that you're at 11,000 emails. So starting 2024 at 11,000.
Starting point is 00:41:51 thousand ending the year at 15,000 solid emails with anywhere from 40 to 60% opening grade which is a very high opening grade really high you know how many emails we sent millions 4.7 million so 4 million 7993,8 emails you know how many got opened 2 million 34,725 if these people this is 2 million emails if I make as much as $1, just a dollar, for every email that I send. Yeah. That is $2,34,725 than I could potentially make. Now, of course, I didn't make $2 million off of my emails, but I made plenty.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Thank you so much. But that's the opportunity. That's a whole other way of reaching people. And then when you have an email database, they can so sec graduate with you, right? So if you think about it, you might be thinking about buying and selling right now, and that's your only way of making money. but next year you might be doing agent attraction and then a year after that you might start a course and then a year after that you might build a team and then you're after that. So as you're graduating
Starting point is 00:42:57 through life, that email database grows with you. They're graduating with you. They're going to be purchasing your course next time and then they're going to join you and they're getting their real estate license and they're going to join your team. Right. They're going to graduate with you. So a database, it's an absolute must. You have to do it. And my goopreneur episode, which just launched yesterday, I'm actually talking about how to grow your database. So if you go to my Google's real estate Instagram account and you comment go-gopreneur, kind of like entrepreneur, but with Google in the front, Googlepreneur, you are going to get an automation that takes you to my podcast. And on the last episode of my podcast, I literally teach exactly how I build my email database,
Starting point is 00:43:37 what systems we used to send their daily emails, what systems we used to track the daily emails. And you can also, sorry, my team just said, that you can also comment podcast. So if you want to keep it simple, if you don't want to know how to spell Googlepreneur, because it is a little bit hard. Just come and podcast and you will get the same automation and you can listen into the last episode of Googlepreneur. And also if you're an EFP agent, I am on the ESP radio station. So KGCI and you can listen there to life.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I think it plays every Monday. Love it. Okay. So then we have, can we, oh, and then let's talk a little bit about social media, right? So databases, you can build anywhere. You can build it on LinkedIn, on TikTok, on X, on YouTube. Instagram and Facebook, Facebook groups, wherever you want to, you have to exist everywhere. So what I do is I post on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:44:27 That is like my homepage. That's my home. I feel comfortable. I know every button I can do Instagram, but when I open in the middle of the night, right? So I make my content on Instagram, but then I have a team and they plaster it everywhere. So what I think it's important is for you to have Facebook, Facebook pages, Facebook groups. I don't do business on personal. So when I mean Facebook, I don't mean your personal, I mean you can share.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I mean, you can share it there. Why not? Those are your personal people, but I don't push business stuff down on my friend's throat. Just because if they're a plumber, for example, they're not pushing down the newest, I don't know, pipe cleaner down on my throat, right? Because I have no interest in that.
Starting point is 00:45:05 So I don't force my friends into doing business with me. If they have an interest in whatever I'm doing, they're going to find me on my business pages. So I do business on business and personal and personal. That's just my two cents. Okay. So with that being said, you have to be on Facebook, Facebook groups, Facebook pages.
Starting point is 00:45:20 You have to be on LinkedIn. You have to be on Facebook or Instagram. Instagram feed, Instagram stories. You have to be on YouTube. And pretty much everywhere. Okay, so be everywhere, but hire a VIA. You're going to create content on one platform. And then that VIA's full-time job is to take that content
Starting point is 00:45:37 and plaster it on all of the other platforms. Okay, so you are going to be found everywhere. So that's it for social video. It's super simple. And then just push the button. social media changes so much, guys. I originally had Google's bootcams social media, and then I realized I can keep up with the algorithms and the
Starting point is 00:45:57 softwares and the new releases and the many chats and the, I just care. It would be a full-time job, right? But the way I figured out is the same thing. You're going to log in, you're going to push the button and see what happens when you push it. And you're like, that's really cool. What a website is in there? Give your phone to an eight or nine-year-old and watch and just do what they do.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I mean, really, they just, they're fear. They just push buttons and they just figure it out. Exactly. Yeah. That's true. Oh my gosh. I have a story for you on this one. So last summer we went up to Michigan.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And I asked my 15 euro. I'm like, hey, do. Can you help me create some videos this summer and I'll pay you? So my videos were paid. They were, I had an average of 10,000 views in each of my video. Some more, some less, but an average I would say 10,000. So I said, hey, listen, I will pay you. What was it?
Starting point is 00:46:44 10 cents per thousand views, right? or 20 cents per thousand, I think I said, 20 cents per thousand views above 10,000. I'm not paying your first 10,000 because I usually get thousands, but I'll pay you anything over 10,000, right? Do you want to get, take a guess on the only video that he did, the first and only video that he did, how many views I got? Oh, geez. Did it get to six figures? So, 6.8 million. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:47:15 20 cents. So I think I paid. Okay. so 6.8 million what is that 6.8 million minus the 10,000 I can't do the mat. Anyway, I think I paid the kid like, what was it, $1,700 or something like that, like $7,500. So the kid, three minutes. Literally the video is like, hey mom, what's your favorite quote? and he just walks by the couch.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And I say, what's my favorite quote? And that's the video that goes back. He's 15. He made like $1,600. He's like, he stopped creating videos because he's like, I have plenty of money for the summer. Like, I don't need to create any more videos. So maybe don't have this deal with your child or like cap it at some point, like 20 cents per thousand, but not more than. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Right. Like real estate transactions, like the escalation clause, right? like yeah so it happened to me but exactly ask a teenager if you need help with social media pay your kid like they're going to skyrocket your business like and they can do it from home they want to be an entrepreneur anyway because nobody anyone wants to have a real job right they are thought to be their own bosses hire your own kid and write it up um can you talk about different sources of income in in 2025? Very important, yes. Okay. So what I want to cover is if you want to, let's say, work from home or if you want to go to Italy, right, I would totally concentrate on referrals.
Starting point is 00:48:52 So if you think about it, before EXP being nationwide and having all of these organizations and agents to have access to, it was so hard to find a referring agent, right? And then so the only did referrals when a client came to us. It was like, oh, we're moving out of state, can you sell our house and then we're moving to Florida and then you refer them to Florida, right? So what I recommend, you could literally build a million dollar business from your couch at home just from referrals. I would call everybody you knows because think of it this way. Your friend in Chicago, do they have to live somewhere? Do they have a roof above their head?
Starting point is 00:49:27 Yes. Okay. More than likely, they are using a realtor when they're buying or selling, correct? Yes. You're thinking, well, it would be a waste of my time because I'm in Pinkley, Michigan, and my friend is in Chicago and I'm not licensed there. So why would I even care if the buying or selling? Because I'm not going to make money on it, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:49:43 But guess what? Everybody that you know, like when you open up this phone and every phone number in there, they live somewhere. Right. So you can start dialing from your pouch every day, 10 people, start at A, and up at XYZ at the end of the year, right? Call 10 people and be like, hey, by the way, did you know, you're probably assuming because I'm licensed in Michigan,
Starting point is 00:50:04 then I can only be your realtor in Michigan. But guess what? Just at the TeamGog organization, we have 1,500 agents. I can help you anywhere in this country and in 24 other countries in five minutes, I can get your top producing agent. So don't hesitate. When you're moving somewhere, you know somebody who's moving somewhere, they need to sell.
Starting point is 00:50:21 They have any real estate questions. I'm your person. And I'm charged. How is that for a sales pitch? Yeah. You don't have to pay me anything, right? So you have every phone number in your phone, since we're talking about dialing, right?
Starting point is 00:50:36 Every phone number in your phone lives somewhere. And at some point, it's going to need a wheelchair. That's right. And if you are already a wheelchair, then just get them over to X-B. Yeah. I love it. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I think that's with anybody, you know, getting into, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:56 getting into any endeavor in any business. I mean, like, well, who do I call? Who do I have? I don't know. Click on your contacts on your phone. How many contacts are in there, right? I mean, start right there. I literally looked at everyone is my potential client because everyone needs to live somewhere.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Even if they're out of state, like if I'm talking, George Moe at the airport at the bar waiting on a plane, they're a potential client. Yeah. Because they live somewhere and one day they're going to need a realtor and guess who they're going to come to me? And I can't wait. Hey, Gogh, I know you don't cover South Carolina, but we need a rackster like, can you help us? Absolutely. You know the thing too, Go-Go.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I mean, I think that's just a great reminder, right? We're talking about, you know, the state of business going to 2025. Everybody should have their elevator pitch, right? You know, what is it that you do? You know, you start the conversation. You're inquisitive. They're going to ask you, what do you do? What's the elevator pitch, right?
Starting point is 00:51:54 You remember my opinion? When I was still full-blown in sales in real estate, what do you do for a living? Yeah, what is yours? I make people homeless. They pay me thousands of dollars. I'm really freaking good at it. There you go, right? And when you make people homeless, I'm like, I sell your house in five minutes.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yeah. Yeah. So you get a chuckle out of it. I don't even if they catch it. They know what it is. And so they're like, oh, and they're going to remember that. And what is that elevator pitch for you? And I think that's one of the things to take into, you know, the new year and to the future is really, really important to be able to argue.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Yeah. Like, don't be like, I've been in Lentis for 14 years. They sold $17 million in real estate. and I cover the living in St. County area of residential real estate. I don't know anything that they're going to remember. They're like, oh, that's funny. You make people homeless.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I'm like, yep, that's what I do. Yeah, yeah, it's really good. There's a joke in there. So, go, go, talk some more. So, you know. I have other sources of income. Can I finish it? Yeah, let's tap into those.
Starting point is 00:52:55 That's really important. I want people to be thinking more than, you know, just helping buyers and sellers. Obviously, we talked about agent attraction, being able to, and you think, you know, obviously this is Honey Badger Nation, but you look at the trend in where the future of real estate's going, all the business models are going there. You've got the legacy brands that are just going to sunset because that's about all they can do. And then, you know, you're going to see all of the, you know, the business and the models and
Starting point is 00:53:24 everything's going to have some form of this because that's the future and that's what agents want. They want multiple streams of income. So you get you've given four we know buyers and sellers and then other agents right if they're on your team if you want to have a team and then you've got you know rev share we're talking the referral network which I love So I am huge on multiple revenues of income and I'm huge on passive income as well right because eventually you won't be able to trade time right if you set all of this upright some of these are going to have to be passive or you're not going to be able to you there's only one of you and only 24 hours right so I I want all of you to have multiple sources of income, and this is how I learned that. When I joined EXP, Merzzi told me we were in our training together, right? And he was teaching and he said, if you have one transaction and that falls apart, that's 100% of your income. If you have 10 transaction and what falls apart, that's only 10% of your income.
Starting point is 00:54:20 But also if all of that, all of those 10 transactions are in the same basket, all of your eggs are in that same basket, all in that real estate basket, right? And that market is stanking like a dead last year. Like we have the worst year in real estate guys. Worse than 2008, worse than 1996. It was one of the worst transactional real estate year since 1996. Like we did more than 2008 guys, right? So by the way, if you survived last year, congratulations, high five yourself, go take a vacation because you deserve it, right?
Starting point is 00:54:51 If you can afford it, you deserve it, right? Because we worked really hard for it. But with that being said, I want you guys to have multiple sources of income because if that market is going down, you have to have other type of income, right, that is not tied to the real estate market or somewhat tied to the real estate market, but doesn't automatically bring it down with it. Okay. So I'm going to give you a few. Number one, I don't know if you knew that you can actually get paid as a real estate mortgage loan officer as well while you're a licensed agent. We were always able to do that, but in the past, we were not able to be on the same file. So if you were,
Starting point is 00:55:23 so if you were a licensed agent and a what I call a remlo or a real estate mortgage loan officer, right, a loan officer, you were not able to be both and one, two, three main streets in the past. Now the rules have changed now you can. You can have a run low license and a real estate license and be what we call in the Tingolk organization a full service agent. You can be the lender and their license reorder, right?
Starting point is 00:55:46 So you can guide them through the whole process. You can have access to their files. You can, you know, you can make, you don't have to hit up your lender and rule. Like, do you have a clear to close? Did you get an unemployment, like verification? and all that you actually can have access to the file. So I think it's huge.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I love being in control of my business. So if you want to know more about that program, you need to comment REML-R-E-M-L-O, REML-R-E-M-L-O, R-M-L-O, R-M-L-O-R-E-L-O-Rogynor-O-R-O-R-R-E-L-O-R-E-Sid and see if this is something that you want to do. An average REML-ROMO in the Ting-G-O-G-O-ROMO. I don't want to say an average rem-L. A REML does in average $2,600 per file,
Starting point is 00:56:26 additional income to their commission. So that's a whole other source of income. Now, if you think about it, these are by side transaction because you're really only generating a mortgage when you're working with buyers. But are you really? No, because when you're at the bonfire with your buddies and they're talking about the $300,000 equity that they have in their home,
Starting point is 00:56:46 guess what? You can now refinance them. Let's say your friend wants to have a bridge loan. Let's say they want to do a HELAC, right? You can do all of that. So you can think about and it's a licensed nation wide in all 50 states. So if your cousin is buying a house in California, even though you cannot be the realtor now, you can be the realistic mortgage loan officer. So I would strongly recommend to
Starting point is 00:57:07 look into that as well. That would be a whole other source of income for you in 2025. The next one that I want to recommend is we all hold knowledge for something. You are really, really, really good at something. I'm really good at something that a God given skill that God gave you, that God gave you skills that didn't give me. We are all two steps ahead of someone who's two step behind us. So it is your duty to teach the next generation who's coming up of what you know so they can get it done faster. And also I'm a huge believer that you get what you give. The more you give to people, the more God is going to give you. So I would want and recommend for you to create a digital product in 2025. There's so many ways to do it. They're so easy. There's the stand stores. There's the schools.
Starting point is 00:57:47 There's the go high levels. There is the, you name it. There's a million ways you can do. Some of them is like five buttons you push. You shoot some videos and you have a digital product. You can do e-book, You can do, you name it, a million webinars, you name it. A million ways you can sell the knowledge that's in your head. If you don't really know how to do that, I can help you. We are actually in the Gogharm community, starting a whole Europe training. Every single month we are doing a live of teaching you how to create products, how to create those websites, how to create the verbiage, how to follow up,
Starting point is 00:58:17 what is the email drip campaign, what is the checkout page? If you want to know business and entrepreneurship and you're interested about creating a digital product, you can go over to the GoGetam community. So it's GoGetam community. Or you can just go to my Instagram and comment community. And I will send you the link automatically. And if you're listening to this, you will not find a code anywhere else. But if you type in 10 off, you will get 10% off if you want to become a member.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Next thing, then I want to talk about, again, the code for that one was community. So if you go on my Instagram, Google Zio Estate, comment community, it will take you to the GoGet, and community page. And then if you like what you see and you want to be a part of the knowledge that I hold themselves out of my head and my expert friends, John, is actually a part of the GoGaram community coaches. So if you want knowledge in 2025 of how to be an entrepreneur, go get them community and type in the word 10 off, all one word. I mean, 1-0-O-F-F, and it will give you 10% off for life. Okay. The next thing I want to talk about is investment.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I feel like so many realtors are chasing the next commitment. make hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, and in the end of the year, they have nothing to show for it. They have no investments. So if you start small with investments, I would recommend RioBriggs. If you comment, Rio Bricks on my profile again, I will send you the link. Rio Briggs is a fractionalized real estate company, which means you don't have to have 25% down to own real estate. You can literally invest as little as 100 bucks, as long as you are 18 years or older. Okay. So Rio Briggs will allow you to buy real estate, but partial real estate, you're not owning the whole house, you're owning a portion of it.
Starting point is 00:59:57 So if you want to start small and you're like, I don't even know where to start and I don't have $75,000 to invest into your property, but I feel comfortable doing 200 today and 400 next month, right? You can check out something like real, Rick, so then you can start small, but start seeing the results. I just had a meeting with them on Monday. Their dividend return is at 9%. So that means for the money that you invested quarterly, I mean yearly they pay you 9%. So quarterly they pay you what like two point something and the money that you have invested so dividend means that if you invest the money it's still invested into the property in like shares right but based on how many shares you own they pay you a percentage of that value quarterly so your money is
Starting point is 01:00:40 making your money that you invested is making you quarterly income while it's still invested and then eventually when each of the properties are sold out when they're fully funded and sold out they can go on the secondary market and you can sell your shares just like you sell stock. So let's say you invested 400 and you need the 400 back. You can go on the secondary market and take that 400 back. Okay? So research it.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Don't take my word for it. You can go on my Instagram, comment, Real Brex. Again, it's Google's Real estate on Instagram. Comment, real brex. I will send you the link, study it and see if this is something that you want to do. I do it. I do it fun. I automatically do 100 bucks a week, right?
Starting point is 01:01:15 And I just, I buy real estate in Oregon. Right? Next one. I want you guys to start down. into Stacks. I use a Robin Hood app to the Stacks because I like the way stocks are explained on the Robin Hood app. Now I don't trust Robinhood with my lifetime savings but I use it what I call my fun money account. So again if you're doing the hundred dollars here and a thousand dollars there or something like
Starting point is 01:01:42 that I absolutely trust that again I have an automatic investment setting to Bitcoin and a hundred dollars a week. It's like a portion of portion a portion of Bitcoin, right? But I'm buying a tiny portion of Bitcoin. So the way I'm looking at it, guys, when I switch to Home Office, before Home Office, I used to hit Starbucks on the way to the office. So that was like $6, $7, $14 every day. Well, I'm not spending my $6,7, $14 every day now. So that is my fun money, my Starbucks money. So instead, now I'm like every week, I automatically deposit a hundred bucks into Bitcoin and it just automatically buys that. I use Robin Hood for that. I don't have a link for you guys. But if you message me on Instagram, I get you a link. But you can.
Starting point is 01:02:22 can just search for Robinhood, create your account, and start investing and learn those stacks, right? So when you start studying, when you're investing your hard-earned money into these stocks or into this cryptocurrencies, you're going to study it because you're not going to want to lose that $100 that you have to work for an hour, that you trade in an hour of your life for it. But then you start building wealth. Okay. So that was that. And then I have a bunch of prams for you guys, because we're coming to the end of the hour that you can build your business plan and your marketing plan for 2025 and they are the most amazing chat gpt prompts that if that doesn't blow your mind if i haven't blown your mind yet if these pramps don't blow your mind like i really want
Starting point is 01:03:01 you to send me a message on instagram after your download is and and follow the instruction and did the chat gpt prams i want you to send me a message of um and i want to 10 how much did i you know blow your mind today okay you're ready for grants so number one of business planning a business planning for 2025. So I want you to think of it this. So you remember when we talked about your hourly rate and we talked about your business and what you want to achieve in 2025 and what you should do and what you should
Starting point is 01:03:31 not do anymore? And then also stay in your lane what you're really good at and only do that thing because as long as you do that thing, you know you're going to make money. Right. So the chat GPD prompt for that, I did a training inside of the GoGetam community. And right now I'm giving that training away for free. So all of you guys can see what the GoGetam community trainings look like. So I called it How to Eat an Elephant, one bite at a time, reverse engineer your goals for 2025.
Starting point is 01:03:57 It's a long training, and I give you the chat GPT prompt in that training, and I also show you how to use it. So that prompt is called free. So if you go on my Instagram and you comment free, F-R-E, I'm going to send you the video training and the prompt. So you're going to have both, how to use it, and then also what to use, what to type it. The next one, it is one prompt, but it's going to give you four different prompts. So if you go to my Instagram and comment prompts, and hopefully you were taking notes, because I gave you at least 10 of these free trainings today that's going to bowl mind. So if you go to my Instagram and comment prompt, it's going to give you a 2025 marketing plan,
Starting point is 01:04:38 including the Most Amazing Chad GPD prompt for marketing plan. Then it's also going to give you a business plan, sorry, another marketing plan for buyers and sellers in real estate. And also going to give you an agent attraction plan and also going to give you a reverse engineering your goals in 2025. And the prompt for that is prompt. Love it. So all this is technology. I use an abuse technology. Technology is my best friend.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Guess why? Because technology work 24-7 and it cost me $27 a month. That's right. Love it. So many gifts. You come bearing gifts this year. Take it. Take it.
Starting point is 01:05:18 It made me millions. Now, here's my disclaimer. Nothing works unless you do. So if you don't see the results, look in a mirror. That's right. That's right. Absolutely. No.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And, you know, I reread the four agreements at the end of last year. And that's the fourth agreement, right? Do your best. And, you know, all the other agreements, you're not always going to be at your, you know, they're always not going to, you know, be what they should be. You're going to kind of break them sometimes. But as long as you do your best, you're going to improve. And I think that's kind of the focus and the commitment moving into the new year.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Just, you know, show up. So we are not all designed to be good at everything. So if something's not working out, that doesn't mean you didn't give it all you got. You might have given a thousand percent. It just didn't work out. That's just not meant to be. That is not your cup of tea, that somebody else is cup of tea who needs to sip it. But if you still want to do it, that doesn't mean you shouldn't continue doing it.
Starting point is 01:06:19 but you should probably hire it out to somebody who has skills in that. Yeah. Right. So don't be too hard on yourself. If you gave it a thousand percent and you're wondering why the heck it's not working, you're probably not doing it right. It probably doesn't come natural to you. Or you need to start doing it and go take your energy somewhere
Starting point is 01:06:34 where you can actually see results or hire somebody to whom it comes natural. Couldn't agree with you more. Go-Go, thank you so much, you know, jam-packed. And really some actionable items for agents to, you know, hit the ground running. gain some traction, get things moving, get momentum, get moving in the right direction. You guys listening, give GoGo, go, go tons of love. Get on her homepage, Go Go Real Estate on Instagram, take advantage of all of the things that she is given away. Understand what that hourly rate is.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Start making some key hires, make some investments into being able to, you know, gain back more of your valuable, valuable asset, which is your time. and really start thinking about your business in so many different ways. What are all the income streams that I can have working for me? And definitely start making the investments. That's like I said, at the beginning of the call. I mean, there's only one reason why I believe you should be in real estate. And that's uncover all the opportunities that we have to be able to go make the investments to move you closer to your freedom.
Starting point is 01:07:42 And if you don't mind, I'm going to make it super easy for everybody right here. And I'm going to repeat those. prompts, those keywords, so you don't have to listen back in case you weren't taking notes, or you don't have to go back and listen to the whole thing. Okay, so just write these words down, then you can go on my Google Zerosa, Instagram,
Starting point is 01:08:00 type them in one at a time, not all at the same time, one at a time. Go to a different post and type of different word, right? And then that way you will get the automations, and then you decide which one you read, okay? So number one, write down funnel, then write down elevate, write down virtual, write down Remlo, R-E-M-L-O,
Starting point is 01:08:17 write down community, write down real bricks, write down go-gopreneur or podcast, write down free, and write down prompt. These will give you at least 10, 12 different things that you can start working on. And please don't at all 12 at the same time, right? Your head would be spinning and you're probably not going to get 100% to any of them, right? You know what you need in your business and choose a handful of them. them for 2025 and put your head down and start working on it and change your life. Go Go, appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:08:54 You're amazing as always. Guys, give her lots of love and we'll see you guys next time. Appreciate you. Thank you. Bye, everyone. That's a wrap for today. I hope you got something valuable from this episode. If you did, hit follow and visit john kitchens.coach for more ways we can work together.
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