KGCI: Real Estate on Air - Transformation and A Winning Mindset wit Derrick Harper Sr.

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Morning Primer is your weekday boost from Mindset & Motivation Monday—quick, focused, and made for agents by KGCI Real Estate On Air. Give yourself a daily mindset reset for the daily direction you need to show up sharp and ready to win.Start your morning ahead of the market and ahead of your competition every day with KGCI Real Estate On Air. SummaryThis episode features a powerful conversation with entrepreneur and financial strategist Derrick Harper Sr., who shares his journey from facing rock bottom during the 2008 recession to becoming a multi-millionaire. The discussion delves into the core principles of a winning mindset, emphasizing that true transformation begins with a change in perspective. Derrick reveals how to turn adversity into an opportunity, build an empire from scratch, and achieve financial freedom by leveraging a resilient and strategic mindset.Key TakeawaysMindset as the Foundation of Wealth: Derrick argues that financial success is not about luck, but about cultivating a winning mindset. He explains how he transformed his life by changing his thought patterns after experiencing foreclosure and repossession.From Failure to Fortune: Hear how Derrick used his experience with failure to learn the credit repair business, which became the foundation of a multi-million dollar enterprise. The episode highlights the importance of learning from setbacks and turning them into strengths.The Power of Systems and Compliance: Discover why a focus on building repeatable systems and maintaining compliance is the key to scalable and sustainable success. Derrick shares insights from his experience founding several businesses, including his highly successful credit repair company.Leadership and Personal Growth: The discussion touches on Derrick's philosophy of leadership, personal growth, and giving back to the community. He emphasizes that a true leader is someone who is not only successful themselves, but who empowers others to achieve their own financial goals.Topics:Derrick Harper Sr.Winning mindsetFinancial transformationEntrepreneurshipCredit repairCall-to-ActionListen to the full episode on your favorite podcast platform and start your journey to a winning mindset! Ready for more? Subscribe now and tap into our Always Free Real Estate On Air Mobile App for iPhone and Android, where you’ll find our complete archive and 24/7 stream of proven real estate business-building strategies and tactics. 

Morning Primer, your daily boost for the mindset and motivation Monday. Quick, focused, and made for agents by KGCI, Real Estate on Air. This is Wake Up to Wealth, a podcast dedicated to helping you change the way you think about wealth. And now, here's your host, Brandon Brittingham. Eric Harper, Jr. in the studio with us today. Senior, hold up with my kid. You know what I'm saying? I was supposed to be a junior, but I had to go and create one.

Got it. Well, I am blessed to have you in here, man. And, man, your social media is on fire. And I didn't, unfortunately, I didn't get to hear you speak last time at MDM because of the fucking shit I was dealing with with kidney stones and shit. But I heard you speak today, man. You blew it off the fucking roof, man. Thank you for being here today.

I appreciate it, man. You know, just being able to give back, poor into people who want to grow, man. You want to show up for people who are trying to show up for their family. So, you know, whatever I can give, you know, I try to give it. And so someone doesn't know who you are. Who are you? You know, I've always had a struggle with that. I'm just me.

You know, and I know it sucks. I'm father. I got married in 19. I've been married 20 years. Two amazing kids. You know, everything is about faith. I served in the Air Force. I oversees.

And I realized that although that did help me fight for people, I wasn't fighting hard enough. Yeah. And I realized that people, needed a lot more help than just security and defense. They needed a way and a means to actually improve their life. And so I started taking that route. So, you know, part owner and, oh, Lord, over 60-something businesses.

But before I'm a business, man, I'm just here for the people. And very humble. I know that word kind of sucks, but while everybody wants the attention, I try to shy away from it. Yeah. You know, because I rather build people and sit back a little bit. than to be the one in the forefront. Well, and I get it.

But after you speaking today, the more people need to hear your message. I'm just coming into that. You know, Ryan was like, bro, like... No, I mean, literally, I had an entire presentation in my head that I was going to do today. I changed it on the fly after you spoke.

Oh, wow. What was going to talk about? Because you killed it. Well, it was the same premise, but the, you know, be the... person that makes someone believe in God more or less, bro, that was a pattern interrupt for me. Like, I was like, I'm going to go, I was going to do some more tactical business thing. And I said, no, I'm just going to go, I'm going to go super deep on leadership.

Because I was like, fuck, when you said that, that like clicked immediately. I was like, holy shit, man, that that's powerful shit. Like, I'll use that on stage. And I'll always, I'll pay homage to who I got it from. But I will repeat that one. No, I appreciate it. And, you know, it's just a bunch of life lessons, too. You know, because I realized every time I was building for me,

God just gave me enough to build for me. Yeah. You know, and start learning about nonprofits. And I'm like, man, the way that that works, if I implement this and I know, because if you got people still in your inbox that they're struggling and you don't have a resource for them, it just means you're not building fast enough.

So I just looked at it as, okay, God didn't make me this smart. He didn't give me this grind. He didn't do all of this. for me. It couldn't be just for me because it's way too much. I got an IQ of 143. Wasn't for me. It's to build for a bunch of people. And so, you know, the whole thing is like, how can I get people what they need at a faster rate? And that's why more people need to hear message. Yeah. And that, I mean, because it's a bross, you know, you got my film guys in here. We travel all over. Right. I mean, that shit was powerful today. More people need to hear it.

Let me ask you another question. Like, where the hell do you pull this? this shit out that you put on Facebook. Because literally like every day, one of the first things I do when I look on Facebook is I go read your shit. Oh, wow. I like go. That's big coming from you. Well,

I mean, because it's, I, bro, it's always so impactful. It's like, and it's tactical and it's real life. And like,

I, bro. And, but it's like, you know, some people on Facebook, you're like, oh, man,

that was a witty quote or it's this or that. It's like once or twice. Your shit is every, like day and day out. Like, you're copywriting. and your content is, like, it's fucking stupid. Like, where do you pull that shit from?

I mean, you're pulling it from internal, but, like, how do you fucking externalize that all time? Because most people are just posted on Facebook. Yeah. Right? I made a commitment to really transform the people. So that's like in anything, you can't go on by an NBA player if you just half-assing, right? You've got to really practice and put a lot into it.

So I just put a lot of thought through how would my post transform somebody whole mindset? Right. And, you know, it can't just be. be half assing if that's my goal. So, you know, I think through the process and then I bring a life experience in. And then how would I transform? And then it takes me back to who am I trying to transform? Okay, the person that I'm trying to transform, what mindset was I in when I needed to hear this message and how did I need to hear it?

And then I write it that way. If you, like, repeat that. If you're listening to this shit, like play that back because if you apply that to any type of sales process or sales funnel, that's like a fucking million dollars for game right there. Like, no doubt. Because we're talking people high level who, if we're trying to get them a transformation, they're not what we are.

Right. You know, and people forget, you know, they think that it's just a cliche saying, don't forget where you come from. It's millions of dollars in that. Yeah.

You get what I'm saying? Because if you don't, if you forget where you come from, you're not going to forget the mindset you were in when you were there. And that's the whole thing. It's like, I really, you know,

to be honest, I don't even be talking to the people on Facebook. I talk to my old self. Damn, bro. And those are all posted. If I can talk to my old self, I would say. That's powerful. And it's a second chance to be able to do that.

You need to say that shit on stage. Will you remember that? I'm going to try to remember that for next time. Bro, you need to say that shit on stage. Yeah, but that's all it is. It's like, man, what would I tell myself if, you know, it's easy after I then made millions and millions, right? Right.

Oh, blah, blah, blah. But it's like, dang, I needed to hear that then. It would have sped up. Yeah. And so whoever. grabs it grabs it, right? That's how I know. Because I can transform anybody who's following my path. I can't transform them if they're not on my pad, though.

So I can just keep talking to my old self. And whoever picks that up, that's who I know God's sending to listen to me. Yeah. Another thing you did today that, I'm shit, you unpack so many things, you know, the whole ebook and turning that into a funnel, we're going to have a whole separate conversation one day about that. Because, bro, my mind was blown on that. but another thing that you talked about today, which I've never seen anyone articulated as a complex idea as simple as you did,

but essentially how you've gotten equity in companies. If you don't mind, I'd love for you to talk about that for a few minutes. Yeah, it's just two things, man. And I can give it a sauce. I have a funding company that I can care less about funding. And I really have a coaching program that I really care less about coaching. So coming from where I came from, you had to be fluid.

So I have to be who I have to be for the person I'm transforming, right? So if I know that this company is about the struggle, I post myself as a coach. And that's why a lot of people are coach, coach, because now if you can respect me as a coach, you're going to come to me with your problem. No doubt. So I got into the M&A space, right, mergers and acquisition space, where I wanted to start buying businesses back in the day. Right.

But I realized everybody I went to. send the LOI to talk about their business. They inflated their numbers. They made it seem like it was way bigger than what it was. And by the time you bring a forensic accountant in, you realize you spend so much time and money. Yeah. Right?

So now I'm like, how can I do this better? So if I do the coaching route, when they come to me and they need a coach, that means that they feel like they're failing somewhere. That's where I need to hit. And they're going to be vulnerable with you and tell you the real shit. They'll tell you everything.

Yeah. And if you pose as a funding company and they're trying to get funding, Now they also tell you where they need the money at. They need it for personnel. That means they got personnel issues and they probably got high overhead, right? If they need it for marketing, that means that they either spend too much money on marketing

and they don't know anything about marketing. Right. So what I did is we went to the Philippines and built a huge, we call center, but a development center where we got a bunch of people. So I'm like, well, if we're getting them four or five bucks an hour and they're trained and they can do all of this, now when the company comes in

and they need me to coach them, I can evaluate two things. If they're a good leader and just don't have a system, I would get equity, right? Because now I can trust it. They'll lead and make them. But if they suck at leadership and their system sucks, it's because of their leadership, I'm going to buy them out. And so now what I realized, it was easier to do that, having more information from either the lending side or the coaching side.

And now when it comes to, I got a solution for you as a coach, but I'm going to charge an astronomical price because I know that you're not going to pay that. but you'll give me equity. Because most people, they'll hire codes, but then still want the coach to do the work for them. So if I got to use my resources, I need equity. I'm sure you figure this out, but like, do you know how genius that is?

Like, that's, like, that's extraordinary that you've figured that out and done it and done it successfully multiple times. And what the money looks different too. Of course. You know, because, like, I remember why I used to have to be the most popular person in the world

to make a million, have a million dollar month. Right. You get what I'm saying? Of course. And now I'm looking at like a million dollar weeks. Right. You get it.

But I don't have to be the most popular person on social media. I can look at the deposits coming in every month from other companies. Right. And you're not necessarily doing all the work, managing all the employees, dealing with all the problems, dealing with all the headaches, right? Yep. Because you've got to have a good leader who's going to be able to do that. And it even helped me create a whole other business called the CEO incubator.

Yeah. Right. Now, the people who I'm developing in the CEOs, close, why are we in the transition of buying you out and getting you out of there, I can put an interim CEO in place to make sure we infuse the coach. You know, so it's so many things, so many like arms that you can build just from the M&A space from the coaching side. Yeah.

Because when I realized that when I, every business that I either tapped into the equity side or bought from the coaching perspective, all of them did, all right. But the ones that I just went and purchased from like a beds by sale or all of the rookie sites that, you know, with the broker people out there, they fail. Yeah. Because, you know, they'll tell you the numbers. You see the P&L statements. It tells you everything but the culture of the company.

Right. And the culture is something that you don't tap into it after you buy it. Correct. So coaching, right, is the only way to find a culture of the business before I buy it. Right. And, you know, that's going to be the biggest thing because you don't even know what contingencies to put in place until you know the coach. Yeah.

So, you know, it's just crazy. That's what I had to figure out because I got tired of either coaching people who went out and made a couple million dollars and they'll go high Grant card on. Right. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, bro, I got you there.

But then now you're paying so much for a coach for the name. And nothing against Grant or any big names, but shit, the amount of shit that you've given on this podcast and you've given on this stage is more than most of those motherfuckers that I know that got the names that charged stupid money to do it. You know, don't give them the same. tactical things that you just gave today. Marketers.

Right. You know what I'm saying? A hundred percent. And bears. You know, I saw dancing bears like when it's tax season and you go and the bearers out there dancing with the sign, you know, saying come here, come here. But when the bear stopped dancing, you don't even see it exist. Yeah.

And a lot of those are marketers. It's like, you know, the shiny objects syndrome. But nobody really transforms. You just get in the room. Yeah. You know. That's, that is powerful. So evaluating, because I know you're going to have this answer, just talking to you.

So you evaluate a bunch of businesses, right? And you're going to say, obviously, you have whatever metric in your head is. I'm going to say yes or say no. I say no to $99 of 100. Right. So what I want to know is the ones you say yes to, why? Well, the feeling is one. Yeah.

Trust in my intuition and gut. Right. So that's the first. If the person feels like a slime ball, I'm not dealing with. So you're betting on the leader, the current leader. The leader is everything. Without the right leader in place, everything is dead. Right.

And so I don't know, you can have the best marketing plan, the biggest budget, right, in the world. Look at the SB, what's your name, Sam? Something. You know, he generated billions, but it was a scam. It was poor leader. Oh, the FTCX guy. They just found them guilty on everything. And so it don't matter how much money you're making.

And this grandiose idea can be amazing. But if you got a scammer as a leader or a poor. poor leader, everything is going to fall. Yeah. And, you know, and people just think leadership is being in charge. Right. You know what I'm? And so.

Talks for an hour about that today. That's it. Yeah. And, you know, it's way more than that. Like, a person got to look at you and want to follow you. Right. Not nothing, nothing you're going to be able to say. And you said that.

100%. It's nothing that I can say that would make somebody say, hmm, what he said makes me want to lead him. No, you're going to watch me for a while. Right. And the thing is, is we don't do enough of that, though. The ones who fail. Think about everybody's talking about what they got scammed out of and all of that now, right?

Let's cause the money to slow down. Right. But everybody who they claimed scammed them, they didn't spend enough time vetting. Right. That means that that person that you invested in all your money into getting you from somewhere. You didn't even see if there was a real leader or not based on what they did. You follow what they said. Look, did they follow in the rooms they were in, what they bought, and you was like, that's a leader.

No, that's a marketer. Yeah, and I'll tell you, and I hate to say this, is that there's a lot of influencers and people, people who sell shit on the internet. And they were my heroes before I got in the room with them. And I got behind them. And a lot of it was bullshit. Fluff. Yeah.

It sounded great. Sounded great. They were better lip service was amazing. And, you know, and also you got to be ready for a real leader. See, the real leader don't sound sexy. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? So like the real.

Because it's not sexy. It's at all. Yeah. And well, the real leader was, I mean, the fake leader going to talk about. how they made a million dollars in the pandemic and they created a program to show you not like, bro, how does that sound? Yeah. So, okay, you made a million dollars in the pandemic.

You can just automatically, I'm not even you. First of all, I, you know, I haven't even did a disc assessment yet. We got totally different personalities, right? We don't even know our habits. Your habits might be way different than mine. And then you're telling me, oh, set this up, set that up. It's like, no, I don't work like that. So if you're listening to this, one of the things that, man, you just got to understand the lid of your organization is your leadership.

Here's a guy who buys businesses, you know, had made businesses make shit tons of money. He's made shit tons of money. And what did he say? You know, what's his number two step after his own intuition is, you know, who's the leader and what's the leader like? It has to be. Think about this, though. If it doesn't have a leader, you're going to eventually have to lead it. No doubt.

I'm not trying to buy another job. You don't want another job. I'm not going to do that. So if I'm going to buy something, I need that commitment from that leader. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Yeah.

And like one of the things that Jay-Z said, I would rather have 10% of a watermelon than 100% of a grape, right? No doubt. And so what a lot of people don't realize is it's the equity that they don't want to give up what's causing the wrong people or the right people not to be able to come in.

I think it, which album was it? He said, it was one of the recent ones, one percent of a billion is more than we've ever seen. Right. Yeah. And that's real, though. Yeah. And most people, they out there in La La Land,

but if you really just break it down, it's all about what can I bring to the table? Sure. I've never met anybody and asked them for something. Right. I've always asked, no matter who, you can ask a thousand people. The first thing I ever.

By the way, downstairs, um, after I spoke today, he literally asked me, what can I do for you? So that's real shit. No, for real. What do you need? Because the thing is, and I came from a culture or I came and was raised in an environment

where popping off, you had to stay humble. We get that mixed with. So you have to be careful on what you say. But I'm going to say it. I'm rich. I mean, and I shouldn't feel embarrassed by saying that. You should be proud of it. And, you know, it's like.

it's a line between being humble and not pushing people away based on where I came out of. But it's like I'm already rich. Why can't I go help everybody? Right. Because I don't need money from anybody. But my thing is, I will never have a money problem if I can help you get richer.

Sure. Even if I never ask you for a dime, if I help you make an extra $5 million doing something, there wouldn't be anything, anytime I call you and be like, hey, Brian, let's grab a drink. Let me get some time because I need to ask you something. Sure. You wouldn't be reluctant to give me that.

Absolutely. not. I mean, one of the things you said on stage today, I was, bro, I was paying attention. You said, if I want to be a billionaire, I got to create a bunch of multi-millionaires. Got to you. And another thing that I learned, too, is most millionaires teach the game. Yeah. Most billionaires create the platform so people can perform the game. And I was like, oh, I got that from my coach. And so now. That's powerful. Yeah. And when you look at Zuckerberg, he created a platform, how many multi-millionaires

been created off the platform Facebook, Amazon. How many multi-millionaires have been created off the platform Amazon?

Bezos don't have to get up here and be a logistics guy. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. And that changed the way I looked at

everything. And that's why I always say never try to eat from an environment that you didn't plant a seed in. Which was phenomenal when you said that today too. Because when you plant it,

especially if you look at the people of seeds, take the people, plant them somewhere, right? And then water them. That's that every day I'm pouring into you.

Every day I'm pouring in. Which I believe in that wholeheartedly. And then they grow. Yeah. So instead of fruit, they got more money, they got more influence, they got this, that they can lend to you the leverage. Yeah. But you created it.

You grew it. Yeah. And so a lot of people don't want to grow people if the money, you know, if the money isn't their first. So I tell people two things. When I launch something, I can do it two ways. I have a seed price and a fruit price. The seed price is because,

people don't see where it's going to take them yet. They only believe in the vision of what it's going to do. So the seed price, I do it for a little lower to get people where they need to be. Yeah. But then after they produce the fruit, after you see the testimony and you know it at work, you can no longer get the seed price. Yeah. Now it's the fruit price because you've seeded at works.

It's proven, right? And I do the same thing with relationships. I got seed relationships and I got fruit relationships. If I bill with you at the seed level because you believe in me, I'm going to build with you forever. But if you come and just because you see the fruit, I'm going to, actually you might have to pay. You get what I'm saying?

So it's a different way that I'm going to deal with you at that point. Man, that's fucking powerful. I mean, that is some powerful shit. Like, this is why you've got to get on more stages. Because more people need to hear this shit. Do you know what I mean? And it's not about, it's, it's,

you're obviously a spiritual man. The, the gifts that you have, fucking more people need to hear this shit. But you know why. It's not that I don't want to do it, right? So let's have a real conversation. Have you ever had a white guy come to you and say, this is why I don't spend money with you, white people.

Have I? Yeah. Every race. No, no, I'm just saying, like, have you had a white guy who get pissed at you and say, see, that's what I don't buy from white people? Have you had a white guy say that? Probably not. No, it's more been like, you know, you're flashy, you're this.

Well, see, that's because personality. Yeah. That's something you can control. Right. See, I can't control. my cover. Right, right. But what I'm, what I have to really be conscious of, right, is when it comes to the people that I'm really trying to help, it's a certain way I have to do. So I can't do it the way you do it, right? I have to do it in a way to where I'm still

sparing feeling. Understood. I'm saying. I do, yeah. And so you got to remember the story I told when I was about to blow my brains out. See, I was franchising a credit repair company. Yeah. Same credit repair company. At that point, I was doing like $4 million a year. Right. And I had the university. I was the founder of the credit repair university. Yeah.

Literally certified half these people out here now, right? And this is 2014, 2015. So now when you fast forward to what happened, though, I franchised this credit repair company. Because what I realized, and I didn't know about the franchising laws. I had to learn, right? So I was just trying to help people. So with the university, people, they got it, they learned it, but they kept having to start over. They didn't have a brand.

And so they wasn't going to get the success that I had because I took time to build my brand. So I said, well, let me just make my brand available to y'all. Yeah. And I franchise. But what I failed to realize is the competitors don't like my brand popping up all over the world, all over the country in their backyards. No, how no. So now it's kind of like, you got to get off my block. We're going to call the feds and we don't have false complaints.

And they don't just file false complaints. they get other haters, other business owners. Most people aren't really haters. If you look at most people who hate their competitors who can't leverage what you have, right? Well, not only that, or they see something in you that they will never be. Right.

And so now if I can't join that, I can't be that, I got to stop that. Right. Or I got to bring you back down. And I'm going to tell you something on that. But anyway, they went to the CFPB, the attorney generals in all of these states, and then they filed spam complaints. But it was real people filing, right?

and some anonymous. And now all of a sudden, my life goes. And so like I said, I put a big seed in the ground. I go to church and I just, you know, because I got the franchise going. Yeah. And I said, God, five figure seed I threw in the ground on offering. And I said, hey, God, please make me a better leader. I left church, got a call for my brother.

Mom passed. The same day. So I'm like, hold on, God. Get my money back. You know, I don't, you know, I was like, I want to renege. Like, you know, so. Fucking upper cut it twice. Yeah, I was like, hold on.

I just blew a bag. Anyway, so. And then I go online and I see a 35 minute slander video. I'm like, what? And they did so well. I was like, yeah, it was like, yeah, it was like 10 of us got together and we're going to put a stop to this guy. And so I was like, dang, 10 people wasted about eight to 10 hours of their life apiece to destroy me. And they couldn't even get together and build something.

It's weird, right? Which is crazy. Which is why they are where they are. Right. Yeah. But so what happened is all hell was breaking, losing my life, at least I thought. And then they filed a bar complaint against my attorney when she was never their attorney, right? Yeah.

And we talk about she 20-some years practice. She represents the who's of the who, right? Right. And so anyway, now it's a hit to her because she's like, I got to answer this B.S. bar complaint. What they were trying to do is create the conflict of interest because if she was dealing with someone, she can represent me. Yeah. And she knew everything. Right.

So now, you know, pray, pray, pray, pray. But what I realized is when all of the things was coming out, the haters knew where to find me to try to destroy me. Yeah. And so it gave me this PTSD of not being the one out. And I'm still trying to. I get it. You know, when people say, hey, well, you need to show the world. And it's like, well, that was cool when I was trying to make money.

Now that I'm rich, I'm not trying to be the most popular person to get to work. Because even though I might inspire some people, it's still. will be pretty much it'll put me in a bad place of where I was before. Understood. And so, you know, it got me to the point

where I was literally in the closet of the bottle. If I wouldn't have got too drunk to kill myself, I would have been dead right now. Well, which is, I hate to hear that.

But, you know, the thing is, you're a chosen one and you were put through that for a reason, right? But see, now you, now you know now that I was literally a better leader

because God literally had to put me through that humility to put me back. so that I really understand a person face to face. Instead of just being a rich guy telling somebody I can bring them alone. Yeah, I understood. I understood.

Well, this time we just built our army around you. That's it. Yeah. Well, I did. And so now that's why I tell people, build community. Yeah. Because when you build community, I don't know. And you have.

I mean, because I pay attention to your stuff. If they come now, the last person who tried to put a slander video out on me, somebody posted it in their group and their YouTube page that had, I think they had like 180,000 subscribers. They slammed the video out and they lost their page in four hours. The page that they worked so hard to build, God let them build it because they was gifting people. And they went off assignment to try to damage another person who has God on assignment.

And the free half came in and literally just reported the page back to back. So they're getting 10, 20,000 complaints on their page within an hour on different IPs. Page can't stay up. And now they're mad that they pay, but they don't have a voice to be able to try to slander me now. So we had to build an army, but it wasn't just an army, a messy army. It was an army on the same assignment. If anyone spends any time and listens to you and has anything negative to say, there's something fucking wrong with them. Well, I mean, negativity is perception, too.

Of course. 100%. So what I learned, this is what I learned. Because I came, you know, both my parents are on drugs. I remember, like, having to jump over the hole in the floor in the trailer to get on the toilet and hope that the toilet don't fall to the left and I fall through the floor. We had a cat to go on there to get the mice. Like, we had a pet cat full of the purpose of, like, chasing the mice that come in the house.

Like, that was my life, right? Yeah. And so knowing that, well, like when I keep saying or speaking to that person, but knowing that, one of the biggest things that I like to focus on, my ADHD just called me. So what were we going with that? because I went down. I went down my 80s. You were talking about,

you said negativity was perception. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah. Thank you for the spot. So what I realized, though, right? It's when I came up out of that, I used to think rich people was evil. I used to because of where I came from.

Of course. So what I realized, when you grow apart from somebody, let's say we knew each other all the way from third grade to 10 grade, right? We know everything about each other. We do things together. And then now I don't.

I disappear off the grid and then I go get rich. Yeah. And you're doing what you do. I'm getting rich. I'm changing lives, inspiring people around the world. You see me on this, on that. You don't remember me of that though. So you're going to start saying, man, I remember what such and such?

It's not really negative. It's just that when people no longer have access to you, they automatically going to put you back in the position where they're familiar with you at. So now it's not that they're hating. They just can't accept where you came from because they had no parts in it. So they want to put you back down where they're familiar with you at. So you got two options. Stay where you at and don't address it or stoop back down to the level that

make them comfortable. So they got two things. They can either grind hard to get where you at to get back familiar or they can try to pull you down to get back familiar with you. And a lot of people choose to pull down an option because it takes those accountability off of them and they don't have to do anything but throw something out there and let you do all the work to come back down. You are hearing your shit?

No, it's just, no, I mean, that's fucking. and you need to say that shit on stage too. Because when they come, like you got to realize, think about what hate is. Hate is just a reflection of getting back familiar with the person. Like,

my family don't support. They did it, they're that. They don't know the new you. Yeah. The old you, like, man, it's crazy.

It's deeper. The new you is not even related to them anymore. No. The old you died out. You just ain't buried them yet. And that's so powerful. Man, I could talk to you for hours.

Like, seriously. But you got to get to the air. airport and I know and I appreciate because I we went longer than we usually do because I was just letting you go because you were you were spitting but uh I like and and I thank you so much thank you so much and one thing I will say we can have an offline conversation is whatever I can do for you I will do it. You're doing it already because because because just being king of the amount of game I got from you today in this room and downstairs was shit bro. It'll make me eight figures. Like, no, no question. Like, seriously. But what I want to end with is I ask everybody this every time is we call the show,

wake up to wealth. And the reason why we do it is I grew up poor. And, you know, I was taught about money wrong. And thankfully, I was the one in my family, the generational one that broke the financial curse and got us out of that shit. And what I learned was, you know, the Matrix, whatever you call it. And I think part of the reason why they were trying to take you down is because you're educating people on how to get out of Matrix. And what I believe is when you learn about money and wealth obviously starts in the mind and everything else, but when you learn to control wealth and you learn to wake up to wealth, your life changes.

And what I always ask everybody, it can be whatever. It's your version of it. What is waking up to wealth to you? Knowing that I have genuine people now in my corner that I can actually talk to, right? So one of the things you said, and I used it, I'm definitely going to use it and credited to you, everybody goes back to their childhood space. Yeah. When I bought my rose and my limbo, it was because I wanted that as a kid.

Damn right. That was it. And I wanted it as a kid. And the feeling you got when you got it. Man, I felt like that kid. No doubt. And so we want to go back and redo the access we didn't have. So now I got the money.

I got the bill because I own homes. Like I then did all of that what I've been locked out of. And it all comes down to like I only want to be around genuine people with good hearts. Yeah. They're harder to find. I can go out and create something to make freaking $200,000 from a post and an email. Right. That don't excite me.

Yeah. Finding a genuine person, though, that that's without a gender that that's really on a pad to change the world, that's gold. That's wealth. And building with them and playing my part of that because I don't need the credit. Right. I just need to know that I played a part in the change in the world. That's all the matter. And if I can find people to do that way, that's wealth to me.

That's powerful. We'll end on that. That's it. Man, I appreciate you being here today. Hey, because people need to follow you and they need to buy into the shit that you're doing. Where can they find you? Yeah, so at Derek Harper, Sr., D-E-R-I-C-K, H-A-R-P-E-R-S-R, on Instagram, and Derek A-Harper-S-R-S-R-E-R-E-R-F-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-A-R-E-A-R-E-A-N-E-A-R-E-E-E-A-8, and they can text Apex to 404-9-9-9-9-3-8-28-28-8.

just 3-8-28. So text Apex there and I'm going to send them a grid of what we talked about downstairs. Which was fucking insane. And if you're listening to this, get that shit because you need it. Man, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for spending your time with me today. I appreciate you for having you. Thanks so much for tuning into this episode of Wake Up to Wealth.

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