Know Thyself - E16 - Sam Kolder: Life, Death & Creative Mastery

Episode Date: October 18, 2022

Filmaker, Sam Kolder, shares how he has found meaning to life by confronting death. From base jumping, to dealing with illness and the death of loved ones - Sam's biggest teacher in life has been death. He also explains the lessons he has learned throughout the process of creative mastery, and how to achieve flow state in artistic expressions. He shares what it looks like to create Heaven on Earth, and his vision for life.   ___________ Timecodes: 0:00 Intro 2:25 Burning Man 11:49 Becoming @SamKolder 17:42 Confronting Death  22:46 BASE jumping 27:56 Heaven on Earth 39:11 How to Create a Life of Purpose 43:54 Practices for Personal Growth 49:29 Flowstate & Distraction  54:16 Advice for Creatives  59:02 Sam’s Vision for His Life 1:01:23 Reflections on Success 1:04:44 Life is Beautiful 1:07:55 Conclusion ___________ Sam Kolder is a renowned self-taught filmmaker, best-known for his unique style of video editing that influenced a new era of content creation. Since beginning his career in 2014, Sam’s talent for Film making has amassed him a dedicated following and has enabled him to to see the world and make this passion his full time career. On top of this Sam is also an avid thrill seeker. Skydiving, base jumping and cliff jumping are just a few of the activities Sam enjoys doing in his free time.   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samkolder/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/koldstudios Kolder Creative: https://www.koldercreative.com ___________   Know Thyself Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/knowthyself/ Website: https://www.knowthyself.one Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4wglCWTJeWQC0exBalgKg   Listen to all episodes on Audio:  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4FSiemtvZrWesGtO2MqTZ4?si=d389c8dee8fa4026 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/know-thyself/id1633725927     André Duqum Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreduqum/   Meraki Media https://merakimedia.com https://www.instagram.com/merakimedia/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If I was to summarize my success, I would give so much credit to me following my natural curiosity. The ability to capture a moment in life and save it forever, that was magical to me and still is. I've definitely always been a bit more of an adrenaline junkie. I like the person that I become when I immerse myself in an activity that scares the shit out of me. The most influential moments in my life have been when I, I have been closest to death. You know, the passing of my brother, I tell people it was a slap in the face. It allowed me to understand the fragility of life.

Having that firsthand reminder that death is a reality of life has been a big guide in my life. The thing that makes this life so special for me and what gives it so much purpose is the fact that there is a finish line, that there is an end date. I like to sit in the discomfort of knowing that this will come to an end because it makes you live fuller. Hello, beautiful beings. Welcome back to the Know Thyself podcast where every single week we get the privilege and opportunity to sit down with a brilliant mind, an open heart, and sometimes a dear friend. Today, I get to interview and have this conversation with a brother of mine. We just went on an epic journey together. And this podcast is going to be filled with

so many nuggets of wisdom and lots of stories from our time together over the past few years, but also in particular the past couple weeks. My guest today is Sam Colder. Somebody, who is a huge inspiration to me and millions of people around the world. He's a filmmaker, a creative visionary, somebody that I see as a master of their craft. He is somebody that really creates exquisite art. And the films that he's made in the stories and the evolution of it also that I've been able to see over the past years has inspired me to dive deeper into mastery of my own craft, into my own podcast, into my own videos and storytelling capabilities. And he's somebody that I really look up to. And I know a lot of people do.

when people are trying to create something that last beyond themselves and really can impact people in a big way on the planet. And so without further ado, I'm really looking forward to this conversation. Sam, bro. Thanks for being here. Damn, brother. What an intro. Thank you so much.

I really appreciate the kind words. Of course, man. Of course, bro, we have been on a journey the past couple weeks. Crazy. Yeah. Just for context. We just got back from Burning Man. Yeah, we went to Burning Man in Lake Tahoe.

the past couple weeks and had, it feels like we lived a whole lifetime in those past weeks. For real, for real. Like the amount of events that unfolded in just the past 10 days does not feel like it's been 10 days. It feels like we've been together for, I don't know, a month or two, like at least. Yeah.

But yeah, this past trip has definitely been monumental in my life for so many reasons. But what I've been telling people is on the timeline of my life, this Burning Man trip is you know, a big, it's a peak. You know, a lot has happened in this past week. And so much of that is due to the people that I've been around like yourself and just the insane experiences that we've had together. Yeah, man. So many moments of connection, of adventure, of play, of inspiration, of insight, of epiphany. Totally. Like there's been so many back to back. And now getting back to

LA and just like getting to decompress a little bit and integrate all that happened and unfolded has been really special. Totally. Yeah. It's been, uh, it's been so awesome to like also just like deepen our brotherhood and like be able to share a lot of those experiences together. For sure. Being out on the playa at Burning Man for those who haven't been, it is, it's one of the peak

human experiences. I feel like you can, you can have going there for a week because it's like, it gives me so much inspiration and hope as to what's possible within the human spirit. Totally. It's so inspiring to see. humans can create. Overnight or over the course of a week, 70,000 people come together, build the city full of LED lights and amazing art sculptures and camps.

And yeah, we went out there and for a week got to experience the magic from every which direction. Totally. And just be kids. It felt like we could, it's a space where you can just be curious, be a kid. And for me it was a lot about play, just having fun. And not setting any goals or not, you know, having any expectations, but just kind of immersing myself in that world and seeing where it takes me. And it took me to some insane places.

It was transformative for me. And I think I'm definitely going to make it a regular thing now to go back. Essentially, it feels like I just came back from a different planet, really. That's how it feels like. Yeah, man, it was a week filled with so much expansion. and it does feel like it's you do get transported into another world that feels like you know I think that's something that we both like you know I'm excited to dive in this conversation of like who you are what makes you you the core mindset and like beliefs that you hold and why you

operate because a lot of people see the amazing films that you make a lot of people see the creations that you that you that you go out there and create and this is like your first podcast of really diving into a little bit more of like the mind and spirit of Sam cold which I'm really excited for it because a lot of people have this perception of you as earlier on like the poster child of travel films and like I know so many people that are just like they hold you as a god in the filmmaking community I don't know how much you like see that or feel that but it's definitely there totally totally and like I can see firsthand the way that my films have impacted people it's specifically

um hey Tim it's a film about my life um and the passing of my brother and how that influenced my life in such a monumental way. And I see that firsthand. A lot of people in the filmmaking space or travel, lifestyle space, approach me. And that's usually the first thing that they say is how much that film has impacted their lives. But I definitely don't see myself as like a god or anything like that. That would be extremely humble of you. I feel, yeah, I don't feel like I am. any better or have like any like advantage over anybody else.

Whenever I come across someone that, you know, is impacted by my work, I'm always like, damn, like that's crazy. Like, that's really cool that something that I've created has impacted someone so deeply. And it's a cool reminder to me of the power of art and the things that I create. It's beautiful, man. It's really awesome to see firsthand also introducing you to like a lot of. lot of my friends and going out to Burning Man to where a lot of people like didn't know exactly like what you do.

Totally, which I love. Which is great. Yeah. I just feel like you're such a powerful being and it's so great to have also the balance of like it's almost unassuming sometimes because you're, you're so like just down to earth and you just treat everyone like a normal human being, which I mean everybody should. But it's, it's beautiful to witness somebody who I feel has, you know, developed a level of mastery in their craft, creates beautiful things, is an amazing soul and is also just a normal

human being. Appreciate that. So yeah, bro, I feel like we definitely share a lot of the, like, core mindsets in creating, you know, big things in this life. And this journey to Burning Man has been a great time for us to completely unplug and just play and be kids again, like you said. Yeah. Because it's easy to get caught up in the proverbial carrot of like what's next when I'm

building next, the next project, the next budget for this film or whatever it is. For sure. And to be able to unplug, disconnect, but reconnect. and really fill up your own cup. And then, like, it's like in life we have these, you know, if we're going 1% in one direction, one degree in a different direction, it doesn't look like much of a change. But over the course of two years, three years, five, 10 years,

you're in a completely different place. So I feel like Bernie, man, like these experiences where you can immerse yourself into tapping yourself back into your true essence. You realign, you recalibrate into like, what is my North Star? What do I want to create? Where do I want to go? And then you go in that direction. 100%.

Yeah. I think it's Burning Man was a reminder to me of how important it is to properly disconnect and I feel like I haven't done that for a very long time. But I am proud of myself because I feel like I did properly disconnect. No, no cell phone, no service, you know. That felt really good to me and just putting my walls down, immersing myself in a community and really just being present with each person that I'm speaking with and developing relationships out there, having fun. It was an incredible experience for me and very much so needed. I've spent the past two years working on an online course. It's colder creative.

That's my, that's my course now. This course has legitimately been my main focus for two years. I've poured my heart and soul into this thing. And the way that I work is I can't really do multiple things at once. I feel like I usually have like one major vision and like that consumes all of me. And I want to put all my attention and focus into that one thing. for moving on to the next thing. Yeah.

So I have been kind of more taking a break from the creative artwork that I've been doing previous to this. And I've kind of been immersing all my energy into this business, which, you know, if I'm being honest at the start, it didn't feel like that was what I was supposed to be doing. Or it didn't feel like that was what was most aligned for me at the time. I think at the beginning of starting this business, the focus was. financial freedom, the focus was to learn more about business and to just set myself up on that side of things. And it's been a wild, wild journey for me. I've learned so much about business, about taxes,

about myself, about relationships, you know, like you need to cultivate healthy relationships within a business environment. So it was definitely an environment for me to grow a ton. And I did. I learned so much. But, you know, it was a lot of work. And I hadn't really disconnected for those two years. I basically wake up every morning. And the first thing that was on my mind was the to-do list. I always had so many things on my to-do list.

And that was consistent for two years. Like that consumed my life. And Burning Man was so refreshing for me because I was able to fully, fully disconnect and immerse myself in, you know, what's happening in front of me and not be thinking about the past or the future or a to-do list. And it was just a beautiful refresh for me, you know. So disconnecting is insanely important. And this trip was just a reminder to me about that, you know. Absolutely. For anybody that wants to check out, it will have been out by now. but like we're putting together like a little sizzle from the whole trip.

So links in description if you want to check out like a 60 second little montage of some of the best moments from the trip. I'm excited. Yeah. Yeah, man. I resonate with everything that you said. And for, you know, coming back into what feels like, okay, I'm back in reality now. Big exhale. That was a lot of upgrades, a lot of information, lots of fun.

In this conversation, what I really want to touch on first is, like I said, earlier in this conversation, I feel like you've developed a level of math. in your craft. And there's many different facets that kind of gone into you developing that. And so what has been the journey of you starting out young in your teens, starting to make out these travel films, just kind of following this itch of like what like makes you come most alive, I would say. And yeah, how have you been able to become masterful in your craft and really hone your skill set? And how is that evolved from travel films to more storytelling, you know, film style pieces. Yeah, that's a great question. You know, if I was to summarize my career or my success in this industry, I would give so much credit to just me following my natural

curiosity, right? Ever since my brother had introduced me into filmmaking, he showed me how to use a camera for the first time and showed me how to like cut clips on this little like, I don't even remember what brand it was. Like, he showed me how to, like, cut sections out of clips on a little camera. I was hooked. I just, like, to me, filmmaking was magic, and it was something that deeply interested me. So I think for me, what allowed this to be so successful was just the fact that I was naturally curious about it and continued to dive into that curiosity. You know, I was raised in a home where my parents, you know, they didn't really see a successful

career. They didn't see that it's possible to have a successful career in the arts or, you know, filmmaking, photography, any of that. So there was this constant pressure on me to pursue something that is more sustainable long terms. They wanted me to pursue a career that was stable and could generate monthly income. Yeah, more certain. Totally, totally. So there was that pressure on me. I continued to pursue film. I continued to spend my free time editing, learning softwares and just shooting everything, really. There was just this natural curiosity in me to capture life, capture moments, like the ability to capture a moment in life and save it forever, that was magical to me and still is, you know? So there came a point in my life where I was

forced to kind of make a decision and that was at the end of high school. I was given two options. You know, I could go the traditional route in life where I could, you know, pursue a stable job, pursue something that I know is going to be paying monthly but, you know, is not necessarily lighting up my soul or I could pursue this thing that I'm super passionate about and, but I'm unsure of whether or not I can actually make a career out of it, whether there's like money to be made. But, you know, the passing of my brother, that was like, I tell people it was a slap in the face. It was a reality check for me. It allowed me to understand firsthand the fragility of life, how finite this life is and how we can leave this life at any moment. You know, my brother was

someone that I looked up to massively in every way. And I definitely credit so much of who I am to him. He influenced me so much as a person. And, you know, he was the main person that was. supporting me in all of my endeavors. He was the one that was always rooting me on in my creative work. I wouldn't say my parents were as supportive. They were more skeptical, but he was always like follow your dreams, you know, chase the things that light you up in life. And I think that that's what really stuck with me. But it was, yeah, at the end of high school where my brother had passed and it was just very clear to me that I should be pursuing something that lights me up, you know. even if I do make it to 60 or 80 years, that time's going to fly by.

And I can already, like, I can already feel it, you know, like, time goes by quickly. And I definitely do not want to spend my life pursuing something that doesn't light me up and doesn't excite me. So it was at that point where I just decided to full force pursue filmmaking and not look back. And ever since, you know, I've found a lot of success in this industry. And it's been a wild journey. and making that decision was probably one of the best decisions I've ever made, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that leap is so scary for so many.

Totally. It could look like so many different things. And whether it's leaving a secure job where there's a consistent paycheck, but really you feel like there is this thing that your heart is pulling you towards that you want to jump into. And if you're raising a family or you have people to take care of, there's a lot more on the line. But I think you being at the age that you were at and then also finding this kind of sweet spot of what you really love and what you're good at.

Yeah. Allowed you to get good quickly to where you can make a living off of it and keep honing in your craft and getting better and better and following that curiosity. Like I just think that it's because of the education system and the schooling system that's set up right now, a lot of our curiosities aren't really fostered and nurtured. But it's kind of like set up and it is set up to create workers, not thinkers. Totally. And so yeah, man, it's been really beautiful to see.

you on the other side of, you know, the mastery, the creations to where I've been so impacted by your films and like, hey, Tim, is, I feel like a masterpiece in so many ways because it's a piece of you. And that lives out there in the world. And it really impacts people, including myself, because you're speaking to like these deeper truths that stemmed from a deep realization of a traumatic experience in your life. And it's just real. Like, you feel the authenticity and the realness of it. And that is inherently going to be so impactful. So, yeah, man, since we're here, like, the relationship with death, I think is really important and really there's a lot of insights that can come from it. I think the closer you are to your own mortality

or you perceive your own mortality, it will be that is a direct correlation with how alive you become in life. And I've seen that in your journey. I know that you can speak to this for sure. But yeah, talk to me about how facing off the death of your brother and then also, you know, other metaphorical or literal deaths in your life have brought you back into a deeper sense of direction and purpose in your own life. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. The most influential moments in my life have been when I have been closest to death, whether that's myself or, you know, the loved ones around me, you know, having that firsthand reminder that death is a reality of life is very sobering for me and has been a big guide in my life for sure.

And there's been several different moments in my life where I've been close to death. The first one was the death of my brother, you know? That one rocked me like nothing else. And like I've said before, I definitely, I don't think I would be where I'm at today if it wasn't for that instance because it completely shifted my mindset. it opened my eyes to the reality of this life. And it was powerful. I've also encountered death several other ways in my life afterwards,

one of which was an ayahuasca ceremony that I did in Australia where... This was like what? A couple of years back. This was 2018, I believe. Yeah, there was a moment in that ceremony where I believed that I was going to die. Every part of my being believed that this hour, that I was in was my last hour. And, you know, I always thought that I could maybe put myself in this kind of situation when I'm in a sober state, you know, just imagine what it's like if

right now was my last hour. Like, how would I feel? What would that be like? If today was my last day. But it is very different when every cell in your body believes that this is the last hour. This is your last moment here on earth. It was fucking terrifying, you know, absolutely terrifying. But I knew in that moment that I just had to surrender to it. And I did. And I was given another chance at life. And that was monumental.

That was refreshing. I felt like I was reborn and given another chance. And, you know, looking back, yes, that was a very scary situation to be in. but I'm so thankful that I was shown that, you know, because it was just another reminder of how precious this life is, you know. I've also had an experience where I was, I was very sick in my life. And that got me to a place where in my own mind, I believe that I, you know, my body was deteriorating and something serious was going wrong,

which was also very scary, you know, and that lasted for, upwards of like six months or so. So it was this constant battle in my own mind of what's going on. I was scared living in fear for a long time. I went to lots of doctors. They can really give me any answers. No one really knew what it was. But yeah, being on the other end of that, looking back at that situation, I'm super thankful that I went through it. Even though it was such a really hard hardship, it really shaped me into who I am now and was an important milestone in my life. Powerful, man, yeah.

It's like the realization of how fragile life is like you're speaking to, it brings you back into rearranging your priorities and like changing your perception and what is most important in your life. How do you really want to be spending your time? Because like you said, you can philosophize about it like, okay, yeah, like if I was a die tomorrow,

how would I live my next 24 hours? Totally. We've all thought of that. We've all heard of that. But to viscerally feel it is one of the most valuable experiences I feel like you can have, even though super difficult in the moment, especially when your own health is on the line. But then also like when the perception with your ayahuasca journey or, you know, with your brother, it's like it's really bringing you closer into life and what's most important. For sure. And that comes across in your art for sure, bro.

It's like it's it has a level of caliber of impactfulness because it's like we talked about earlier. You followed your curiosities and like what really makes you come most alive. There's that quote at the end of, Hey, Tim, where it's like, we need more people to follow what makes them come most alive. Yeah, yeah, totally. So, beautiful, bro. Yeah, and another thing that, another recent thing that I've, that I've gotten into is base jumping. Yeah. That was, basically, this past month for me has been insane.

I've, I've spent this, the past two years working on my online course, and I was like, okay, like, now is the time for me to properly disconnect and chase the things that excite me the most. So I basically went from like two years sitting behind my computer to the complete opposite. I flew over to Switzerland, met up with my mentor, Alex, who's been in the base jumping world for like two decades now. And I started my base jumping journey. And it was fucking crazy. It was a crazy time out there. I had only ever seen someone base jump once before in my life. And I was just like fully committed to this journey.

I'd purchased all my equipment, showed up there. And I stood at the top of the mountain. And I was watching some base jumpers getting ready to jump. And I just remember standing there being like, holy shit. Like what did I get myself into? Like this is pretty crazy, you know, jumping off of a mountain and witnessing those people jump. But this was an activity for me that required me to just completely surrender, you know. Trust my mentor, someone that I look up to, how like that.

Alex Satorre, he's professional athlete, but also just a very smart individual that I look up to in many ways in life. It was a trip where I was forced to sit in the discomfort of, you know, knowing that life can end at any moment, especially hearing all of the stories. You know, this is a dangerous sport. And, you know, Alex would constantly remind me of all the instances where, where, you know, people would be pushing themselves too fast or, you know, like, excelling in the sport too fast and eventually mess up. You know, it's an unforgiving sport. You can't, there's no room for failure, you know. So for me, this, this trip was very eye-opening as well. I met a lot of people that are in the base jump world. And I could just see how that whole community is very different. I felt like everyone's just, like, very real around each other. Present. Yeah, very present.

And I just, I love the energy, you know. And I think a big part of that is because, you know, this community of people understands on a deeper level, the finiteness of life, how finite this life is. And I experienced that firsthand. And I feel like I came out of that trip feeling like a different person, you know. I came out of that trip being like, okay, like, I'm very thankful I'm alive, you know. Even though statistically, you know, it's the most, you know, deaths within base jumping, they happen because of human error. There's so many different factors to consider before you jump off a mountain, both like internal and external, you know?

Yeah. We'll put a clip on screen right now, too. It's insane. It's insane seeing the evolution of your extreme sports journey from 100 foot cliff jumps, double backflips into water, to skydives to skydiving. in the blue hole to now base jumping which is just like another level. Totally totally yeah I've definitely always been a bit more of an adrenaline junkie I like the person that I become

when I immerse myself in an activity that scares the shit out of me you, it forces you to be present yeah it forces you to be present 100% and people just think that I'm like fearless or something but I'm not like I showed up in Switzerland scared the day one when I was

there, I was like, holy shit, this is terrifying, you know? But I love, love the feeling of conquering my fears. And I love, like I said, sitting in that discomfort of the reality that this life is finite. Yeah. Even to the point where you wrote your own will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that that was a pretty cool thing that the people in the base jump community do is

they write a will before they actually enter the sport. And I think the act of writing a will. will is very important because it makes you think, like, what is it that you want to tell the people around you or, you know, leave the things that mean the most to you? Like, who do you want to leave those things with? It just makes you think about, you know, life after you die. And I think that in a very real way, you know, in a very real vulnerable way. And I think that that is very powerful to do that. It makes you think differently. And for me, just appreciate life even more. Amazing, man. I hope you have a safe journey with that. You are in my prayers.

Thank you. It's beautiful to see. It's enthralling. I could understand how that adrenaline shot of like doing these various different extreme sports makes you so present. And, you know, especially when you experience a fragility of life, you want to taste all that life has to offer. And those are peak human moments when you're flying off of a cliff and all you have is a parachute on your back. And it's up to you whether or not you're going to live. It's quite insane, man. I would like to touch on this tattoo that you have. This is heaven.

So like we've been touching on it's been a golden thread throughout this whole podcast of death and how the realization of the fragility of life firsthand viscerally actually feeling that allows you to tap into real presence and follow. your highest calling in life and make this time that you're here on earth, which is the only thing that you're guaranteed as much of a heaven as you can. So what's been your journey with that realization, how you got that, you know, that tattoo and your whole journey and philosophy with that. Totally. So what a lot of people don't know is I grew up in a very religious household. I was like to the point where I was supposed to memorize proverbs in the Bible in order to go skiing on the weekends. Church every Sunday, prayer before each meal, you know, very God-focused family, you know? And my whole life, I was told that this life doesn't actually matter that much, you know?

This life isn't the special life. The special one is the one that comes after this life, because you get to live for eternity in that one, bro. This one's just like a small little taste of life. but afterwards you get to live forever. Constant bliss, it's going to be a fucking party. It's going to be great. And I was taught that it's what you do in this life that matters in order to get you into that next life of eternity. And, you know, I grew up in this culture that basically it didn't force me to have these beliefs,

but, you know, it really encouraged me to take on these beliefs, the beliefs of all the people around me. you know, the church, my parents, my family. Yeah, because there's a lot on the line. Totally, totally. And, you know, in that culture, I was shown what happens when you stray. You know, if you start to believe in science or you start to believe other things, you know, then you start to be seen as an outcast within that culture, within that community.

And you start to be seen as someone that's lost, right? And growing up in this culture, I didn't want to be seen as someone that's lost. I didn't want to lose friendships or relationships with the people that I grew up with because I'm, you know, pursuing a different belief or even just being open to different beliefs. Yeah. But it was at the time when my brother had passed that, you know, I was really shook. It was that event that opened my eyes to other possibilities, you know. And it was from there that I began to, you know, be a little bit more open-minded to other beliefs. other ways of life. I started to travel a lot more. I traveled a ton. I traveled for like three,

four, maybe almost like five years straight. I didn't really have a home. I was constantly bouncing back and forth between countries, doing different jobs and whatnot. But learning a lot in the process. And it took me a while to get to a neutral place where I kind of was able to shed those those beliefs that were kind of forced upon me as a child and just get to a neutral place where I could develop my beliefs by myself. This idea of an afterlife, I haven't personally found any logic within my experience in this life that tells me that heaven is a real concept. The conclusion that I've come to personally, and I'm not saying that I have all the answers,

but this is my answer right now. and the one that I feel best about is that the idea of an afterlife was created in order to bring peace or an answer to humanity's biggest insecurity, which is what happens after we die. I think anybody, if they start to dwell on this question as to what happens after we die for long enough, and you don't have any like rooted beliefs and something like it could be a very very very scary question you know everything that you are can one day just disappear like that's that's terrifying to think about you know so i think the idea of an afterlife was created or implemented in society um in order to give people an answer you know give society an answer and to bring peace to that insecurity

And I think that that was really important in the evolution of humanity, you know, in order for us to get to where we are now. And in order for society to be able to function, you know, as a whole. So from there, you know, as I started to uncover that myself, I started to dive into the logistics of heaven. You know, what does heaven look like in the Christian religion? You live forever. That's number one. What does that mean? What does it mean to live forever, though?

It doesn't mean that you're going to live 100,000 years. It doesn't mean you're going to live a million years. it doesn't mean you're going to live a billion years. It doesn't mean you're going to live a billion times a billion years. It means you're going to live forever. It means your life is never going to end. Okay, well, what does that mean? Also, you're going to have your loved ones around you, right?

You're going to have the people that also believe the same faith with you there. Are they going to look like how they looked last when they were on earth? Are they going to look like at their prime on earth, you know, like in their best physical and physical shape and whatnot? Or are they just going to be, you know, floating souls that are around you? And, you know, is there no longer going to be any arguments, you know, is like heaven is this place where everything is just perfect and everyone lives in constant bliss? Are you not going to have any arguments with the people around you?

Are you all just going to always be on the same page about everything? Are you just going to live in this constant bliss? And if so, does that mean that we no longer have. any free will. So there's so many aspects of heaven that I felt like no one was really talking about or diving into the logistics of it. And actually in the Christian Bible, there's like an exact description of what heaven is supposed to be like, right? It's supposed to be this floating place made of gold. And they even like, they even talk about like the exact measurements and whatnot. And I could see how, you know, a thousand years ago or whatever, that might have sounded great. But now

it doesn't sound too great to be honest. And, you know, people in religion, they say, oh, but it's up for interpretation. You know, you can interpret it however you want. But, you know, that's why there's so many different branches of religion because everyone interprets things however they want. Yeah. But anyways, this idea of heaven to me doesn't actually sound that great. And a big part of why it doesn't sound great to me is the fact that it's infinite.

There is no end. I think the thing that makes this life so special for me and, what gives it so much purpose is the fact that there is a finish line, that there is an end date, you know? And I know that that could be very scary, but I think in my life, I've been able to shift my perspective on this end date from being something that's scary to being something that's actually really beautiful and is something that's really important for me to live fully. When I remind myself that this life is finite and when I go through these experiences where I encounter death firsthand, it really sparks this light in me to just want to live my life to the fullest.

And, you know, I know that if I had an unlimited amount of days ahead of me, then I wouldn't have the urgency to do something with my life tomorrow. I would just sleep in. I would, you know, I wouldn't really do anything. Just do it the next day. Totally, totally. And you know, a lot of people in my community, they ask, but like, you know, don't you need to have like an answer? Like, you're okay to live life without an answer as to what happens after this. And yeah, I'm totally fine. I don't need to spend my life looking for an answer as to what is going to happen to me after I die. The way that I see is that this opportunity right now, this state that I'm living in, this is heaven. Heaven isn't something that's after this life. Just the fact that I am alive right now,

statistically is like impossible, you know, for me to live life, for me to experience emotions to be able to experience love, connection with other human beings. This is a miracle in itself. And I like to sit in the discomfort of knowing that this will come to an end because it makes me live fuller. And personally, I don't need to have this comforting story of an afterlife later on in order for me to get through this life. I think it's such a powerful framework and perspective on life. I think that religion has been very necessary for various parts. of the evolution of the human species and on an individual level, right?

We're just talking about our own personal perspectives. I'm sure religion, I mean, I know religion empowers so many people in so many beautiful ways. But being okay with the phrase, I don't know, like being at ease with uncertainty gives you so much power to where you can look at uncertainty and say, I don't know what happens after I die, and be so fearful because of the programming

of so many different churches that say, you're going to burn in hell for eternity. That's the worst sounding thing ever, being the worst place ever for all of time. Okay, that I want to avoid. And when your own soul is on the line and, you know, the upside is being in what, you know, and like there's so many different descriptions of what heaven is like you spoke to. It depends what religion you're speaking to.

That, you know, there's going to be endless food, bountiful virgins, you know, gold everywhere. Like, it's just kind of a recreation of what we think is very nice here. they're all things from here. They're all things that we can experience in this life right now. And it's like if we have this perception of heaven being this constant blissful state where your worries and I guess fears don't exist, it's like we, I believe,

I think we came to earth to experience this dimension of duality where we are constantly being reflected who we are and who we're not to then realize that this is heaven, that we can experience our inherent unicity. And it feels like heaven. You can have the experience that this is. heaven, that you're in this blissful, joyful state. And, you know, it takes journey to, to remove what's in the way of experiencing that. But the more that you have those experiences as well,

not just having, you know, the realization that you're impermanent and that death is a very real reality, but also, like, you have those blissful, expansive states to where, whether you're having a peak experience, like jumping off a cliff or just a beautiful, you know, moment of connection with a lover or a friend, it's like, this life is so good. It's so juicy. And, And the idea that there's a place better than this, I feel, and I'm sure, like, you've been speaking to, it's disempowering. These realizations are, you know, they've been insanely valuable in your life. And for people that are hearing and getting a little bit more of an insight into why you've been able to do the things that you do, what's shaped you in your own mindset and in your thought process in life, because I see what you're explaining as a direct correlation to following your curiosities and seeking what makes you come most. alive in life because you realize that this and your experiences, this is probably going to be

my only life. How do I want to live it? And at Bernie Man, you also had an experience of like talking to your 80 year old self. And so if you were, if you were to kind of like zoom out and like go to an 80 year old version of yourself, I'm curious, what do you feel like he would, how would you have to live your life to be at 80 and feel proud of how you lived? It's funny. That moment actually happened while I was riding on a one wheel, watching the sunrise in the middle of the playa. Which, by the way, is the best way to get around on the playa. Yeah, for sure.

These electric skateboards that we're just cruising around floating in the desert. You just lean in the direction that you want to go. I was saying, like, I felt like a wizard out there the whole time. Absolutely. But, yeah, like, there was just this profound moment that morning where I kind of got hit with, like, this encounter with the 80-year-old version of myself. I had, like, a bit of drop-in with, like, the 80-year-old version of myself. And he was just reminding me of, like,

what is important for me to focus on right now that will satisfy or, you know, make the 80-year-old version of myself happy with the way that I live my life. And, you know, it sounds cliche, but the realization that I had on a deep emotional level was to really just focus on the things that genuinely excite me in this life and the things that my intuition is, you know, know, telling me to do. Yeah, after that experience, I turned down one of the biggest brand deals that I've ever gotten in my life and I don't feel bad about it at all, zero, you know. It just didn't align with where I'm at right now. It didn't excite me. And I feel really good about that. And I think that, you know, I want to continue living my life with this type of energy, just reminding

myself, you know, that my time is very precious and my time is finite. My time is really the most valuable thing that I have, not my money, not my possessions, but my time. So I feel like I've gotten a deeper understanding of the value of my time and just prioritizing that a bit better. Beautiful, man. What advice would you have for people that they're in a position where they're not really stoked to be waking up doing what they're doing? You've obviously been able to create a life for yourself where you live your life by design, you have the opportunity and now privileged to be able to turn down big gigs because it's not in fully alignment with what you want to be doing. Yeah, how do you help or how would you give advice to somebody that wants to follow their

curiosities, but maybe doesn't know how or have the means right off the bat? One revelation that that's really sinking in in my life at this stage is our intuition is like a very real thing. You know, it's like this internal compass that kind of directs our lives if we choose to listen to it, you know? And I think it's so easy for society and the environments that we are brought up in, especially in today's day and age, to kind of distract us from our intuition. Yeah, I think curiosity is something that directly aligns with your intuition. It's like those are correlated. And I think it's just really about to have Back into that curiosity finding out what it is in this life that you are curious about naturally

You know it's not something that you want to do because it's going to pay well It's not something that you want to do because it's going to make you famous or whatever, but it's just something that you feel Naturally curious about so I think it's important to find that one thing for me that I've recently uncovered about myself is I I love music production. It's super fun and And it's been a very great creative escape for me. And I'm not doing it for money at all. You know, I have no expectations in it from it. I just found a new medium for me to express myself that I really enjoy.

And there's like, there's no resistance. I have this natural curiosity towards it. And for me, I just want to continue to chase that, you know? That's awesome. So the whole theme of this podcast, know they self. is about learning more about yourself and the many versions of ourselves and knowing ourselves deeper and deeper at deeper and deeper levels. And so for you, what have been a few tools that have been most impactful in knowing

yourself deeper and then also being able to listen to what that curiosity is, that whisper, that intuition that's pulling you in a direction. Yeah, what has that been like for you? What have some tools that have been most impactful in being able to listen to yourself better? there's been a lot of things in my life that have helped me get better at listening to my intuition and also just to learn more about myself in general working out has always been a big one I've recently really gotten into hot yoga I feel like that is it's a drug that's how I describe it to me hot yoga is a drug same with the ice bath and what you know a drug when I say drug I mean

like a medicine you know you're releasing all that you're releasing all that's a drug I mean like a medicine you know You're releasing all these endorphins. Totally. It's your own chemical factory. For sure, for sure. And it allows me to alter my perspective on life. That's all that, you know, medicine really is for me. And hot yoga, ice bath, stretching, those are all really good ones for me.

But also journaling. Journaling is a huge one for sure. And recently, I've been really getting into breathwork. Breathwork has been game-changing for me. I've been hearing about breathwork for so long, and I've done it here and there, but I never really got into a deep flow. And I never really understood what people meant when they're like, oh, you can get into like this like psychedelic DMT state from just breathwork. I was like, you sure? I was like, for real.

Can you do that? But now I'm tapping into it. And I'm unlocking the power of breathwork for me. And it's really, really powerful. It's incredible. I'm able to enter this state where I feel like I am very, very. very present and I'm able to just be more receptive to, you know, certain words of affirmation or, you know, self-love, cultivating self-esteem, allowing myself to express more lovingly.

Yeah, it's crazy. Essentially, what I did was I signed up for a 16-class breathwork session with my friend Casey online. And at first I was like, I don't know if this is a good investment. I didn't really know. I was like, I paid a good amount of money for 16 sessions. But like two or three sessions in, I was like, okay, like this was super important to me because I now have that accountability partner. And I can't like, you know, it's, I'm going to be letting someone else down. Like there's, there's that accountability. And that was probably one of the best things that I've ever done. Now I do my breathwork sessions solo.

I have an app that I use. It's called Other Ship Incredible. Definitely would definitely recommend. But yeah, it's become a daily part of my life. And it's super important for me in order to just like get to a neutral place every day. Kind of like diminish my anxieties or any kind of negative energy within my body and get back to like a neutral loving place. It's been very powerful.

And also, of course, like I said before, journaling, there's this analogy. Our brain, our mind is kind of like water just spilled on the floor, you know? And journaling is like that water in a cup. You know, you're able to put all of your thoughts in one place and actually process them. And journaling to me is really just like talking to myself and analyzing my own mind and my own thoughts and learning a lot about myself. And honestly, I haven't really gotten into a deep flow with journaling up until about this year. But it's definitely been transformative for me. Amazing, man.

Yeah, I think it's so important to have those practices that balance out your masculine and feminine energy of having like breathwork or yoga or stretching or journaling that allow you to, we live in such a type of a society that's very consumerist and says that if you want more in life, you have to achieve more. But the feminine side is you can actually receive more. And how you do that is by getting quiet and allowing these moments where you're in your body or you're tapping into your breath. And you like allow the voltage of your intuition to rise a little bit. And a lot of times people don't see those practices as valuable because there's not like a result immediately. But a lot of times there's an insight that puts you in that different direction like we were speaking to earlier to where that is going to be a big shift over the course of a year. So that's awesome. that you've been able to find tools and practices that can keep you into listening to yourself

and honing that intuition practice. And it's been cool to see you journaling your insights every day after this trip. Totally. You know, life happens fast. And if you don't pay attention, it'll pass right by you. For sure, for sure. I'm definitely very proud of myself for documenting everything that went down this past because so much stuff went down.

And there's so many lessons in every single event that happened. So for me to have it. everything written down is very powerful for me because I can go back and reflect and learn from the exact moments that happened. One thing that I've learned about myself and the human mind is that we aren't actually that good at remembering things. So journaling is really good to capture the moment and remember what actually happened. It's awesome, man.

What has been your journey finding flow state? Because for you, I feel like once you develop a certain level of skill set or competency and whether it's in sport or video editing or whatever it might be, once you like your skill sets good enough to use the software or the ball or whatever it is, then you can kind of get yourself out of the way and achieve a flow where it's like less you in your mind doing something. They call it like conscious competence, but you're unconsciously competent at what you do to where it's just you

and the doing is kind of collapsed into one where I know you've experienced that in video editing and other, I'm sure other areas of your life. and the better you get at music production, you can find that as well. Totally. I feel like that's something that we both have in common of like something we're calling more in and kind of seeking is that flow state because a lot of magic gets created in that place. Yeah, I think flow state is just one of those things that happens when you are pursuing something that is so in line with what you're supposed to be doing, following that natural

curiosity. So for me, like, for example, with music production now, like I can find myself just sitting behind my computer up until four or five a.m. sometimes and time just flies. That's flow state for me where I'm fully immersed in whatever's happening in front of me and the rest of the world. I kind of just forget about it, right? tapping into that state is definitely very important for me and I've created you know the pieces of work that I'm most proud of I've created when I'm in that deep flow state you know that's where I get my best ideas it's where I create my best transitions it's where I perform physically in the best in the best way flow state is really just about being fully present with whatever activity it is that you have in front of you and being able to step away from everything else.

And I feel like reducing distractions is so important in getting to that place. So how have you been able to reduce distractions? What are some things that you've implemented in your life? Yo, so one thing that I've been preaching is I do not believe that Instagram or TikTok or whatever social media that you open very consistently throughout the day, it should not live on your phone. And for me, that's been monumental for me. It was just deleting off of my phone and not keeping it there.

Essentially, the way that I see it is our phones are our external brains. We are already cyborgs, you know? People talk about how Neurrelink is going to make us cyborgs in the future or we'll have exoskeletons or whatever. No, we are already cyborgs because we have an external brain. We are no longer using our internal navigation systems, you know, We are, those, those parts of our brains are dying off and we're now fully relying on this device in order to get us around places. We're also using it to store memories via notes or photos, you know. So there's no denying that we are already cyborgs and we have this external device that is a part of us.

We need it. You know, try to live your life for a week or a month or a year without your phone. It's not going to be easy. You know, you're going to feel like you're stepping back, you know, instead of moving forwards. And, you know, understanding that this is my external brain, I want to free it of any clutter or distractions, you know. And for me, like, there's no denying that social media is a very big distraction. It's a legal way for corporations to get you as addicted as possible. That is their main focus is to get the users as addicted as possible.

And they're doing an amazing job at it. You know, the emotions that come with constantly updating yourself on everyone else's lives and this subconscious comparison of your life with others, I think that it takes me away from the present moment and it just dampens the way that I live my life. So for me, it's been clear that that that's just something that doesn't belong on my external brain. Amazing, man. Well, I think with somebody somebody that has such an incredible Instagram grid, it can be really refreshing to know that for you to be able to create the things that you do,

it's important for you to keep it off of your phone. And download it when you need to post something. You use like an iPad or laptop to post stuff, right? Exactly. Yeah. That's awesome, man. For people that are listening to this that are either filmmakers or creatives, you have your course called or creative

where you get to effectively mentor a lot of individuals that look up to you in the space, how do you guide them and support them and tapping into their own unique genius or like their own filmmaking creator capacities? I think we touched on this a lot of like following your inner curiosities but for somebody that isn't as far along

as you are in developing your craft do you have like a tip of advice or two for people that really look up to and admire you and want to create epic films or it could look like any creative endeavor but aren't quite there yet. Totally. I think one hard reality of life

is that in order for you to excel at anything in life, you need to have some discipline. You've got to be disciplined. You need to prioritize the things that you actually want to excel at in life. And with video editing, if we're using that as an example, what I always say is

you need to first understand how to use the tools before you can really get into like a deep flow state. You know, before I want to create like a complex transition or, you know, some crazy effect. I'm not going to be able to do that on my first month in the software. You know, I have to build this foundation of understanding the tools and how they work and how I can use them in certain situations to make my ideas come to life. And that is a process.

And that process requires dedication, you know, to immersing yourself into that world. You know, that's definitely something that I tell, you know, all of my students is to commit, make that commitment to learning the foundations of whatever it is that you are wanting to excel at and learn them properly in depth, you know, make it be second nature. So then when you get to a point where you have this passion or this inspiration inside of you to create, you can do that in a very free-flowing way and you don't have to think about. how to do certain things, technical things, whatever, you have that base foundation of knowledge and you can just flow at that point, you know? But it takes time to get to that place.

Yeah, we live in a society that's so impatient and what results the next day. Totally. Totally. You see how many gym signups on January 1st, then fall out a month later, you know, and it's like, it's one thing to admire greatness and to appreciate beautiful creations. but then especially if you're living on your phone where you're comparing yourself to other people's highlight reel all the time and you're not putting in the hours of the discipline of what it takes

to actually attain that you're always going to have this delta this difference in disjunct between your reality and what you want. Another thing that I think is really like why I love spending time together in conversation or hanging out is because there's the saying like iron sharpens iron.

You know, when you're around people that have similar views on life, you or just more so the embodiment of it like whether it's discipline or you know open-mindedness comfort and the uncertainty or discomfort like seeking out discomfort all these various different things it kind of just builds on each other and amplifies whether it's like yo I'm doing a breathwork class do you want to join or like yo I'm body hopping the coal plunge you want to come hit it or you know and go do this that or just the conversation it's been really awesome to spend time together and continue to sharpen each other yeah in that way is there what would you say

is unique about your own mindset that we haven't touched on yet that allows you to live the life that you live. Is there a core belief or philosophy or our outlook that you feel like really has allowed you to blossom on your journey? Yeah. I mean, I feel like this is what we've been talking about before is just that deep understanding or deep belief that this is all that there is and that I am going to die someday. And I don't live with the idea that I'm going to live to 70 or 80 years old. You know, like to me, if I make it to 70 or 80, that's fucking awesome. I'm stoked. But like, if I die tomorrow, if I die when I'm 30 or when I'm 40, don't feel bad for me.

Don't feel bad for me. I've lived my life. I've lived a great life and I'm going to continue to live every day to the fullest potential that I can. But for me, there is this underlying, you know, motivation of just wanting to express. express myself to live my life to the fullest, to follow my intuition as much as possible in the short period of time that I have. And you know, whether that's one year, five years, 10 years, or maybe 50 years if I'm super lucky, regardless, all those time frames are very short. And I think I live more with the perspective or the understanding that it's not a lot of time.

And I want to use that time really wisely. Amazing. Yeah. Bro, it's insane to see at 26 years old what you've been able to create. and I just can't imagine 10 years from now where we're both going to be. I feel the same way about you, honestly. Thanks, man. But yeah, if you had like a big vision for what you want to create in your life,

what is the energy of like the impact that you want to, you know, that you want to share? I mean, the films that you've already put out and a lot of the pieces has inspired people and shifted perspective in so many ways, is there like, yeah, an energy or ethos that you feel like you as a unique individual and soul want to leave your footprint?

or imprint on this planet. Yeah, is there something that comes to mind when you scope out and see like the impact of your life and what you wish people to have garnered from your time here? Yeah, I guess for me, like I really want to continue to pursue making impactful art. I think that that is my calling here on this earth. And I think that's what excites me the most. And I feel like is, you know, that that's where my interoperable. Colonel Compass is taking me.

Beautiful, man. I can't wait to see the beautiful pieces that you create and direct and film and edit and all the things. And like you said, I mean, we're both so young and like you just having this itch for music production. Like, who knows where that could go? For sure. Bernie man next year and you're rocking out of the set and I'll be here.

100%. Yeah. I have no attachment to what I like feel like I need to be in this life. You know, I'm very open to pursuing whatever, wherever. my curiosity takes me. And I think that that for me is very empowering, just knowing that I am not one thing. You know, I am not, I don't attach myself to this idea of who I should be in the future. But I'm very, like I'm living my life in a way where I'm open to going whatever direction my intuition directs me to, you know.

I think that the more you're stuck to who you have been, the less you can be who you can be. For sure. And unless you're free, it's like if you're attached to this identity of being a filmmaker or a video editor, then it's like at a certain point, it's that identity is not going to be serving for you anymore.

For sure. And you're going to suck the joy out of it and you're not going to be as good as it because you're not enjoying it as much. Totally. And one thing that I've kind of struggled with in my position is I've had this massive following on social media that kind of expects me to be a certain type of person, right?

and for me like I've basically kind of taken a break for the past two years but I see a lot of comments on my work and stuff saying people miss the old me you know they miss the the the person that was making more art those you know the older version of me basically but I've been taking a break I've been taking a break and I've been putting a lot more focus into self-development and my own growth because I've been on this non-stop journey for so long now and I've kind of had to take a step back, learn a lot about myself, learn a lot about the relationships around me, develop those. And now I feel like I'm at a place where I'm like ready to go back into that world. But the following that I've amassed over the past years, you know, it was such a big influence

to me. Like I was very much so influenced by what my followers wanted or what they expected me to be. But I'm pretty proud of myself for getting to a place where I've kind of detached myself from that and I am not letting that influence me as much and I'm just more listening to what it is that I feel that I need in my life and, you know, to pursue the areas of growth that I feel are important for me and not being as pressured, you know, like I feel like there was this constant pressure, release more, put out more art, but I'm letting that affect me less and I'm getting better at just, know, listening to myself, which has been very, very important for me.

Amazing, bro. That speaks to kind of one of the more difficult sides of attaining success. And once you have, like, you know, a large following that expect you to show up in a certain way, they've followed you because they've seen a certain version of your creations that they like and they want to expect more of. Yeah. What has been one of the most rewarding sides of the success? I mean, there's no doubt just meeting people in real life and seeing how much my work is

impacted them. You know, that to me, it's always a trip. Just seeing somebody, like, I have no idea who they are, but like them just kind of pouring their heart out to me explaining how much, how impactful the work that I've created has been to their lives. And a lot of the time it's shifted their lives pretty drastically. And that's crazy, crazy for me to hear. But I would definitely say that that's the most rewarding part of what I've done. Yeah, it's been so cool just to see, you know, out at about at either Burning Man or Airwant and like a couple people coming up to you freaking out and like, you know, because it's like sometimes we're so detached from seeing the actual impact that we have. We just like make things that we think are cool, put them out online.

They have, there's views and comments, but it's still like detached. And then when you get those reflections in person, it's like, wow, it's fulfilling in a very unique way because you see the direct impact that your work has. For sure, for sure. Yeah. Like it's one thing hearing, like, seeing comments and hearing people's reviews online and whatnot, but, you know, having people share their experience of what you've done in real life is very impactful. Amazing, man. Beautiful, bro. Is there anything that we haven't touched on today that you feel like you want to speak to?

I touched on a lot. Yeah, we touched on a lot. Life is fucking beautiful. I love my life and I'm so thankful for all of the ups and, you know, downs in my life, the waves, you know, the highs, the lows, the way that I've been raised, you know, even though it isn't necessarily how I would raise my kids or whatnot, all of the situations that have happened in my life have made me who I am today and I couldn't be any more thankful for all of those situations, you know. A big revelation that I've had in my life is to

kind of, you know, understand that in the moments of, you know, understand that in the moments of of hardship in life, those are not happening to you. They're happening for you, those moments of hardship. And understanding that there are always going to be moments of hardship. There's no getting around it. I always say life comes in waves, you know. You're going to have your high points, you're going to have your low points. But it's about learning how to surf the waves and just enjoy the ride.

And I feel like I've been getting much better at that, at like, you know, realizing in the moment in those low points that, hey, like this may not have. not be exactly what I want, you know, but I need to take a step back and understand that this may very well be what I need at this stage of my life. And that to me has been so, so empowering and so it just brought so much clarity, understanding that I need to let go of control and kind of just let life flow, let life unfold in the way that it's supposed to. And for me to just make sure that I'm actually taking away lessons from whatever it is that's happening in my life. Yeah, beautiful man, yeah.

Suffering just for suffering is not all that appealing, but there's that saying of like the brightest of stars shine and the darkest of nights. When you're in those moments that suck, you're suffering, and you have a loss in your life or people that you know or you have some sort of challenge, which inevitably in this dimension of the human experience on Earth, you're going to have so many of those moments.

And being able to, like you said, become a skilled surfer to where you can experience the, the tough waves, but the resistance to them is what creates a suffering. So it's like the more that you can listen and see what is life asking of you and what is life trying to teach you, the more that you can actually gain some insight into potentially having less hardships in the future or becoming more, learning how to navigate them better in the future. So that's awesome, man.

And, you know, getting to hear a little bit of your hardships and your own, you know, facing off with your own mortality and the people in your life and how that's firsthand. shaped who you are today and who and what you've decided to go down what paths you've explored it's uh it's really inspiring man and uh yeah i'm just so proud of you for the journey that you've been on and i can't wait to see where it goes much love brother yeah amazing bro is there where is there is there anywhere people can find you or a project in particular that you want to point people towards right now yeah i guess uh if you guys haven't seen my work uh i would say the piece of artwork that I'm most proud of at this stage of my life is Hey Tim. It's basically the story

of my life. You can check it out on my YouTube channel. It's just K-O-L-D on YouTube. My last name's K-O-L-D, Sam K-O-L-D. And other than that, you can just go through my YouTube channel and check out the other videos there. Amazing, bro. Again, just like, I just want to reflect back how brilliant of a human being you are. Thank you for doing the work that you're doing and creating the things that you're creating and I'm just so excited that we're at where we're at in our life right now and that we could do continue to adventure and explore this magical mystery of life and share insights of how we've been able to level up and share that with the world and any way that I can be of support to you bro you know I'm here I'm here for you I appreciate that brother

thank you so much for facilitating this and yeah just creating such a don't space to share these insights with the rest of the world. What you're doing is definitely really powerful, and I appreciate you putting all the love and attention that you do into what it is that you do. Thank you, man. Thank you. Appreciate you.

And I'm sure for a lot of people that have just now been tuning into hearing a little bit more about who you are in your mindset and life, for those that are listening, let us know in the comments of like, what did you take away? What was most impactful for you? It's always interesting to see that. and yeah, I just want to say whoever's listening or watching this on YouTube. First off, all the links in the description for Sam for things that we've been talking about today. And just thank you for being interested in this type of transformational content.

My intention with this podcast is to introduce you guys to people, ideas, concepts that can help you know yourself at deeper levels and therefore be more impactful in the world. Live a life and more freedom, love and liberation. And yeah, until next time, be well. We'll see you. Take care.