Know Thyself - E55 - Darin Olien: The Invisible Fatal Conveniences That Are Making Us SICK

Episode Date: July 18, 2023

Darin Olien, a wellness expert, author, and co-host of the Netflix documentary series "Down to Earth with Zac Efron," discusses the hidden dangers of everyday conveniences that are making us sick. Darin reveals that many products and technologies that are marketed to make our lives easier and more convenient, such as processed foods, cleaning chemicals, and electronic devices, can actually be detrimental to our bodies and the environment. Darin provides insights and practical tips on how to reduce our exposure to these invisible fatal conveniences and make healthier choices. He discusses the importance of reading labels, choosing natural and organic products, and reducing our reliance on technology. This is an informative and thought-provoking discussion on the hidden dangers of everyday conveniences and how we can make healthier choices for ourselves and the planet. ___________ Timecodes: 0:00 Intro 2:49 Witnessing my Father's Suffering & Taking Action for a Healthier Life 10:48 Fatal Conveniences: The Toxic Products and Harmful Habits That Are Making You Sick 16:37 How Personal Care Products are Poisoning Your & Better Alternatives 26:20 Why Are We Trading Health for Convenience?  35:43 Choosing to Create Change 39:55 Improving Water Quality: Filters and Mineralization 44:50 What Even ARE Natural Flavors? 45:56 The Problem with Conventional Meat Consumption 49:48 Organic vs Nonorganic Food 50:52 Harmful Effects of Electromagnetic Radiation 56:22 Simple Steps to Reduce EMF Exposure 1:00:13 Harmful Chemicals in Clothing: Stain Resistance and Endocrine Disruptors 1:05:15 The Environmental Impact of Consumption: There's No "Away" 1:12:57 Eliminating Harmful Chemicals in Your Home & Everyday Life  1:18:59 Chemical Sensitivity as a Superpower  1:27:02 Simple Changes You Can Make TODAY 1:30:34 Inspiring Solutions That Companies are Creating  1:37:28 Conclusion ___________ Darin Olien is co-host of the Emmy™ Award Winning, #1 Netflix docu-series, Down to Earth with Zac Efron.   Spending nearly 20 years exploring the planet discovering new and underutilized exotic foods and medicinal plants as a Superfood hunter Darin developed, Shakeology – grossing over $4 Billion in sales since 2008 for Beachbody. He also created a plant-based Ultimate Reset 21-day detoxification program for the company.   From his years of experience within the health space, he wrote his New York Times best-selling book, “SuperLife: The five fixes that will keep you healthy, fit and eternally awesome”.   As host of the widely popular podcast The Darin Olien Show, Darin curiously explores people, solutions, and health as well as life’s Fatal Conveniences™ – a segment of the show uncovering modern-day flaws and challenges that may be undermining our health and our environment.   Darin the founder of Barukas™, the most nutrient-dense nut in the world coming from the Savannah “Cerrado” of Brazil. Through sustainable business practices, the company is committed to supporting this important biome by planting 20 million Baruzeita trees while getting out the most delicious nut on the planet.   Darin holds a Bachelor of Arts in Exercise Physiology/Nutrition and a Masters in Psychology. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/darinolien/ Website: https://darinolien.com Buy "Fatal Conveniences" Book: https://darinolien.com/fatal-conveniences-book/ Shop Barùkas Nuts - The Healthiest Nut in the World: https://barukas.com Watch "Down to Earth with Zach Efron": https://www.netflix.com/title/80230601 ___________ Know Thyself Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/knowthyself/ Website: https://www.knowthyself.one Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4wglCWTJeWQC0exBalgKg Listen to all episodes on Audio:  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4FSiemtvZrWesGtO2MqTZ4?si=d389c8dee8fa4026 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/know-thyself/id1633725927 André Duqum Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreduqum/ Meraki Media https://merakimedia.com

Life is created by choices added up over time. It's ridiculous what we are swimming in. Products being sold to us, the ultra-processed food, dominating children's diets. We're playing with stuff that we don't have to prove that it's safe. They're selling something to us. We're buying it. We are aggressively hurting ourselves. Profits and power have dominated over the health and safety and beauty of

of us as a species. But here's where I have ridiculous optimism. You know many people I've met in my life that say, I had no idea I could feel this way. The only way you can experience something different is if you do something different. And there's a whole other state of being that we get to go to if we're willing to take that step

even when it's uncomfortable. Hello, beautiful beings. Welcome back to the know they self. podcast where every single week we get the honor and privilege to sit down with the brilliant mind, a beautiful soul, to see how we can learn more about ourselves and the true nature of the world at deeper and deeper levels. My guest today is, I've been looking forward to this for quite some time. He is a co-host of the Emmy Award winning Netflix docu-series down to earth with Zach Efron. He has been a superfood hunter for almost 20 years. He is a host of his own podcast, the Darren

O'Lean Show. And he's also a New York Times best-selling author for the well-known book, Super Life and the new book, Fatal Conveniences, which we're going to be diving into throughout this podcast. If you listen to this show, you tune in because you want to learn more about yourself, become the most liberated, full expression version of you. And in modern society, that comes by virtue of not just what you do, you know, nutrition, good sleep, exercise, meditation, community, and relationships, but also what you don't do. And we, grow a lot through addition by subtraction. And so we're going to be diving into a lot of avenues today to gain awareness and realizing that applied knowledge is power. And Darren O'Lean, who's my

guest today, is going to be able to support us on that journey inward. So, Darren, thank you for coming on the show, brother. Hey, man. Super stoked to be here with you. Yeah. Let's dive right in. This has been a little bit of a labor of love. I know you put a lot of time, energy, and commitment into really exploring and communicating a lot of the ways in which the conveniences we have in modern society are detrimental and deleterious to our system. Before we dive into all the nuance, I just want to hear from you, how has your, how is not your fear of death, but your love of life inspired you to go on this exploration for this book? Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, I think, the cornerstone of that was my dad you know being suffering from this chemical sensitivities and things like that and

it was this invisible kind of hard to put your finger on situation that was hurting him so i would see that effect and that had an imprint on me in the in the 90s and then when you realize that the bubble of was burst in terms of like you can go out and buy things that may or may not be healthy for you and it was kind of a strange concept 30 years ago to contemplate going wait a minute they can sell stuff that is essentially you're breathing in you're exposed to you're touching on a day-to-day basis that are that is harmful and so the the the the real innocence of this was well ultimately i don't want people to suffer unnecessarily and i saw my dad suffering unnecessarily and um why not you know illuminate uh that for others because um i knew early on in life being three and a half

pounds when I was born that I was fragile my first imprint was like you may die right and you know living first three weeks of my life in a box in an incubator many many degrees you can point to that is you could die just by that not being around your own mom so so that kind of thing is is very alarming to me when you know my first book being all around food and clean water and clean living and things like that but this invisible what i think an elephant in the room is all of the stuff that we're swimming in you know from electromagnetic fields to you know collones and perfumes and in everything to slathering on stuff to to exist in this world and and so i just i i knew i kina naively when i started writing this book i'm like i know a bit

and let's just get some support with some researchers that i've been working with and i'll kick this thing out and you know maybe six months and wow you know it's like when you say yes to something and then i start really diving in and really reading and really maximizing time of focus, I was like, wow, this is more intense than I could possibly imagine in all of these areas. So every chapter is representing this kind of mountain of information that, you know, trying to kind of gather it, corral at all to then make it make sense for a normal person so that they could actually then potentially employ a different way of looking at things. So yeah, I just I just knew that I had to poke at this bear that is around because I,

myself, have been adopting this for the last 30 years. And now I'm adopting even more. and because of also what I learned in the process of writing. So, yeah, it was, it was, it's based in love. It really is based in the love of us moving forward with eyes wide open so that we can have actions that support our life instead of this almost ridiculous scenario we find ourselves in. And I'm not even trying to be dramatic. This is, it's ridiculous what we are swimming in.

We can't see it. Maybe we smell it. But these are products being sold to us, sold to our families, sold to our children. And then you can, you know, you can also poke at the ultra-processed food that's dominating children's diets. and it's all the same weird playbook that that agency of others not taking responsibility

over products that they're creating from my perspective and selling them to us. That's a contract. They're selling something to us. We're buying it, right? You're exchanging something and what you're exchanging is harmful, potentially undercutting. You know, this mystery, right?

There's mysteries of disease and there's people walking around with headaches and low energy and bloating and mental health. Like this, you know, it's just below the. acute, you know, alarming nature of like, I'm not suggesting that you're shampooing your hair and it's killing you tomorrow, right? It's, this is, this is slowly underneath the way we're living unless we start to take action on really scrutinizing some of the things that we're doing. And that's, That's what I'm trying to employ people to do. Like, I don't have all the answers. I started it in that book.

That book is a start of this world that seems to be continuing full of profit and probably a bit of power that may not have our best interest. So I just want people to have a little more sovereignty over what it is that they're doing. Yeah, it's so needed. It's a true public service. can kind of, you know, and just a preface for the listeners and viewers today that it can feel a little nauseating to, you know, enumerate all of the ways that we're, yeah, we're swimming in just a soup of toxicity and it can feel pretty heavy, you know, it's thick. But it's, I believe that knowledge can be power and it's important to empower yourself with this awareness because of the ripples and cascade of

effects it has on the choices you make in your life. And so it's better to know than just being this unconscious kind of ignorant state and not knowing why you might have a disease show up or maybe somebody that you love or a pet or something that happens through them. So throughout this whole podcast, as we dive into a lot of the things that have become convenient for us in our life and how it can be detrimental to our health, I want to provide the light side and solutions and how we can actually create simple ways to change our behavior in a positive manner for our life. So let's walk that balance and let's dive in. So in a clear concise way, how do you describe what a fatal convenience is and why it's so important people become aware of it? Yeah, fatal conveniences are the things

we're doing every day. The actions we're taking that we don't perceive that they're harmful. The products we're using, the deodorants, the shampoos, the conditioners, all of these things that we're continuing to use every day. So call that exposure. That potentially, if you're not conscious of it if I were to bet are actually underpinning and potentially damaging your health over a period of time life is created by choices added up over time so that can be positive right you can you know we did a little meditation before we start if you add that up over time that creates a lot of peace you can support that in chemistry biochemistry epidemiology epidemiology epidemiology You can you can attribute that to acute balances of your body of parasympathetic.

You can get into all the science of it now. We know that now. So now these fatal conveniences are, yeah, man, they're convenient, right? This phone that we get to carry around with us and call anywhere in the world and find directions any country we're in, it's ridiculous. Amazing. I still have a phone. You still have a phone. But it's looking at things and setting your life up so that you don't overstress your body or cause issues and minimize some of that stress. I think of things as it's polluting and stressing your body. So let's minimize the pollution of your precious miracle ecosystem that you have. as a body and let's maximize beneficial things, right? Minimize stress and increases. There's a lot of these fatal conveniences that absolutely don't have to. Like if you love perfumes and fragrances, okay, maybe steer away from the carcinogenic,

endocrine-disrupting ones and get an amazing rose essential oil, lavender. So now all of a sudden it goes from detrimental to pleomorphically beneficial, meaning it has no limits on the benefit it can give you, right? So these things we can shift. So using the phone again, instead of putting the phone up to my head, which is causing electromagnetic stress, challenging the RNA-DNA signaling, all of the stuff leading to gylomas and free radical damage

and a lot of science that I cover in the book which is crazy. Put it on speakerphone. Get, you know, plug back in. Use air tubes. So now I can still use this amazing device now have less stress. So that was my longer version

of a concise way of saying fatal conveniences. I'm just saying like there's stress. That's occurring. that we've gotten used to. It doesn't have to occur. So what I'm suggesting, lightly grabbing your shoulders and just giving you a little shake to then look at your life one at a time,

not being overwhelmed by this stuff, but just one thing at a time going, okay, that makes sense. Maybe not put Teflon derivative of P-Fos in my dent, you know, that's in dental floss in my mouth, right? It slides between, your teeth okay but also causing you potential kidney cancer that this Phaas has been linked to

when it's exposure through the orifice of your mouth so probably a bad idea so you know bamboo charcoal covered dental floss that's beneficial and maybe just wet it and it's easier to use as an example so these are the things that I just want to adjust. This is a like a it's a handbook for anyone like to be less overwhelmed. Yeah, maybe read the first few chapters, couple chapters to get the context and then just open it up and use it as a resource. Learn something. Go to the back of the book. I've got tons of solutions. And that's the way that people can kind of implement this stuff. So yeah, I mean, that's that's the goal. Just get people to not be living life under an unnecessary stress response.

Yeah, I beautifully said. I just think of the countless ways we're unconsciously undermining our own physiological well-being that we're not aware of that add up to that bucket that we slowly drip in over time that builds to our state of being one day when even in 30s, 40s, depending on the level of toxicity that we expose herself to, leave us to a much less vibrant way of experiencing life. And so I love that there's these simple things that once you have awareness to in life, that you can, instead of it having being a physiological deficit, it can actually be additive towards your life simply by just buying a different product or having the awareness or buying different bed sheets. Once you do it and you have the awareness of these certain things,

then it's like, okay, once it's done, it's done in a way. And so let's go through these different categories, get your thoughts on some of these different things, so that this podcast can be a resource for people to listen to, gain awareness on a lot of these things and make some headway. Yeah, amazing. All right. Personal care products is the first one.

Oh, man. And this is with the understanding that we could spend hours and hours and hours on one of these things alone. Totally. Yeah, again, even in writing the book, I had to go, what's the base level of how many I talk about? You know, personal care. It's, you know, let's think of the bathroom.

first, right? Toothpaste. What kind of toothpaste you're putting in? Number one, the tubes of toothpaste are horrible for the environment. There's ways to not use that. There's incredible. It's not even meant to be a plug, but I give in examples for people. There's a great company called Bight.

It was like cablets. Yeah. It's like clean ingredients. Throw it in, bite down. And all of a sudden, now you have an agent of cleaning. So you don't have to shove this fluoride induced. chemical-induced, which by the way, most toothpaste say do not swallow. It's impossible to not swallow.

So that's a bit of a challenging situation. So there's easy ways to flip that whole model. Hell, baking soda. If you really want to just put your, you know, wet your toothbrush, put it in baking soda and start brushing your teeth. Like these things are simple. If you want a little get some essential oil, organic peppermint, put it in your mouth, great mouthwash.

You know, it's like these kind of things. So you've got toothpaste, you've got lotion. So I think of things like the longer, so when people are thinking about this stuff, the longer continuous exposure of this stuff, so you're brushing your teeth a couple times a day on average, right? You're putting on lotion. So I look at gifting things of lotion like coconut oil,

extra virgin coconut oil, fantastic, also has a natural SPF in between three to five, right? So you have beautiful things instead of slathering on this, most of the lotions have endocrine disrupting compounds that permeate through the transdermal layers and eventually get to the blood, right? And then you have whatever flow agents they have, propylene glycols, potentially even formaldehydes,

Like that stuff is not something you want on the largest organ of your body. So you can shift that stuff. Shea butter, hobo oil. Like these things are fantastic, right? You know, shampoo's conditioners. The big caveat here is fragrances and these kind of things when they, even if they're saying natural fragrances, it just gets a little dicey because they don't. don't have to disclose everything in there. And that's where carcinogenic activity

of some of these flow agents and constituents in there, there are trade secrets. It's a loophole, probably created by the industry. So bathroom, you can really start to kind of, and then again, the dental floss, shift, I get it, that glide stuff slips right in between the teeth. but but i now use just a nice organic bamboo uh string i wet it and it's virtually the same right and think about it they don't want it to break all the time well sometimes it breaks they're

they plasticize it right so now they're using plastics so again you're putting it in your freaking mouth these things are just bad ideas right so personal care um scrutinize a bit. And then you get into beauty. You get into these, you know, lipsticks, mascara, concealer, all of these things. Now these, this is a, I get it, these things are tricky. I have a lot of great solutions in here. But these things, whenever you see things that don't wipe off, that are, you know, they don't smear, that usually is an indicator of Phafos, right? This pro, per floral alkalis. substances that are heat resistant, that have a layer of protection.

But that is absolutely 100% a forever chemical gets into the blood and can cause everything from testicular cancer to even high cholesterol. It's weird what these things start to do. And then they bioaccumulate. So these are the things to start. scrutinizing. So anyway, the personal care is a big one, for sure. There's a lot to chew on there with also just like looking at what has perfume, right, or fragrance in and all the things. That was really an interesting indicator. And just being able to read labels, you know,

and gain awareness, I personally, especially with cologne or perfume, like if somebody has strong cologne or perfume, I can't be, I can't stand next to them. It's like so crazy. Yeah, so it's, it feels abusive right you know it's it's it's it's so intense and think about that person who's putting that on all the time every day and you're under you're absolutely undermining your health and when we talk about endocrine disrupting now we're talking about the master regulators of our entire body right the pituitary the thyroid the testes the ovaries. This is the overestrogenetic effect of some of these endocrine disruptors. The containers they are using that permeate and come into these products, especially around wrapping food,

get into all that, like food and plastics and water bottles and all of these things. So these are the things. To containers are more than just trying to eliminate plastic. We're trying to eliminate plastic, but we're trying to also eliminate plastic that's in you, that's getting in you. On average, 200 grams a year you're consuming. And in the normal population, 200 grams. And that's a complete petroleum-based,

phallate-rich, endocrine disrupting, carcinogenic material that has become so abicitous within our population that we don't even really think about it. Right. Credit card a week of consuming plastic. So, you know, these are the, and the thing that was so obvious to me was every disruption of your ecosystem, whether it's carcinogenic activity, whether it's endocrine disrupting, whether it's even a lot of these EDCs and these petroleums are connected to diabetes. There's all kinds of things that are being disrupted because it's the endocrine system, because it's the master organizers of our body, because it's the instructors of our body, they're being thwarted. This is the challenge, right?

So again, you want to focus on trying to switch some of that stuff so that it can actually be gifting to your body and still be a sane person in this world, right? You know, yeah, it gets a little, I don't consider. There was just another article on ice cubes on airplanes. Yeah, it's like, oh my God, the amount of bacteria, not even to mention the if it's unfiltered, you already are coming into it

with pesticides, herbicides, pharmaceuticals that have been flushed down toilets because keep in mind there's no a way Andrew there's no a way nothing is away there's no recycling. It doesn't go away. The thing is that

it always comes back it comes back to you and it starts affecting you and it comes by way of our water and things like that. So these ice cubes, not to mention have their own cacophony of chemicals that have not been filtered. Our filtering system in a community sense does not account for chemicals that we've created. The 60 to 80,000 chemicals that are created, we do not have the mechanisms in our facilities of cleaning our water to clean that.

We're not even testing but, you know, 10% not even 10% of those. So it's such a, it's such a weird thing that I'm even having this conversation, right? It's a weird scenario. Like if an alien came down here,

maybe it's going to happen soon. If an alien came... More likely by the day. Yeah. Yeah. directly by our government. A whole other conversation. But if an alien came down here and said,

okay, you guys are eating mostly ultra-processed food. You're swimming in chemicals that are undermining your health. You're not taking care of yourself. The U.S. only has 2.7% of the population deemed healthy. Only 2.7% by the male clinic, by the way. You guys are trying to hurt yourself.

What's the other conclusion? Shouldn't it be the other way? Shouldn't we have over 93% of our population fucking kicking ass and thriving? Shouldn't we be doing that? And then I push back at these organizations, the UN, having all of their goals. Well, you've failed since the inception. You haven't. We haven't.

I've been all over the world. why am I getting clean water to people throughout Africa and India? Why is it that these NGOs are desperately trying to get people food, water? Why is our friend Spencer? Why is he running around getting food to people? Why isn't that our initiative? You know, RFK, you know, his amazing speeches he's been giving. Like, what's going on?

The undermining of our own health. is left to the side, and then we're fighting wars that have nothing to do with us. You know, this is part of the alarm of this book is we are aggressively flipped this whole model hurting ourselves. You know, we're one of only two countries that allow for pharmaceutical ads. Just look at that. You know, we've got New Zealand. in the US.

Like, I don't know. I don't watch TV anymore, but every so often I'm on Hulu, and all of a sudden it shows up on Hulu, and I'm having pharmaceutical ads on my, I don't know, it's not free, but, you know, these ads that show, and like going, this is, this is,

this is so weird. It's very strange. Right? We live in very weird times. It's the opposite. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like the opposite.

I shouldn't be writing a book about this. Right. our health leaders of this world are not talking about healthy food. They're not talking about breathing like you and I just did. They're not talking about vitamin D. They're not talking about the very thing that led us to life. But in fact, I have to spend two and a half years of my life, watch the detriment of my father.

and detriment of other people having to spend my time going, why am I, talk about imposter. It's not imposter syndrome, but I'm like, it's a weird kind of scenario. Go, why the hell am I writing a book about I'm not the only person? Well, you know, you can make a lot of money off sick people. Oh, man. And that's, listen, it's the only conclusion I can make. The profits and power have dominated over the health and safety and beauty of us as a species.

But here's where I have ridiculous optimism. You and I have in this conversation, the people listening to this conversation going, yeah, that's insane. Right? I'm having this conversation. They've already know on some level that some stuff they're using. is not great. Now it's just kind of like in their face because we're illuminating something that is occurring that was occurring for my dad. There was occurring for me as I'm 30 years looking at this stuff and the first researcher also told me 25 years ago like there's gyloa research

with cell phones in proximity to your brain. I'm like what? And they can sell this phone and not tell you? Like that kind of stuff. Dude, it's weird. Yeah. It's got to be both part just ignorance on a mass level of just not knowing what a lot of these things are doing, but then also malevolence on some level

that a lot of these companies are, you know, from greenwashing on the lighter scale, but then to really, you know, potentially knowing that these are not going to be beneficial compounds. and yet it's cheaper, it's more attractive, it'll increase the bottom line, and therefore, the mythos of mankind that we're currently living with says it's okay to put the profit over the people, and it's making the nation and the world sick. So we have a lot to continue to dive into, but that was a great tangent just because I think

it's, you know, I think a lot of people feel the ridiculousness of it, and I do both, I have a lot of optimism like you do as well for these conversations and the awareness and light that's starting to grow on these things because when the people start voting with their dollar in different ways then it kind of forces the top-down changes to occur right i just you just you just create an idea for me please one of my favorite shows is ridiculousness most people don't know okay i'm outing myself yeah yeah because it's such a great rob dyrdick amazing love him and uh and and ridiculousness for me just the caveat is it's it's such a like it allows me to laugh like so quickly yeah like right and so i was actually contemplating like i always contemplate how to have this

conversation especially you know i was in spain doing a talk on this stuff and i'm like how can i walk that line of telling them shocking information and also inspiring them yeah and it's a constant kind of struggle I have. Because again, I wish I wasn't here. I wish society wasn't here. Got to try to share depressing information in a non-depressing way. Yeah. And then hopefully

leave with the accent of like solution, power, choice, sovereignty, you'll be better for it, all that stuff. So the ridiculousness is, maybe I'll talk to Rob. So have ridiculousness in a way of showing some of this stuff.

Because again, literally this morning, dude, I was thinking about how can I maybe through video show people walking through their life? You wake up, you go to your unfiltered water, you drink it, now of a sudden that all of those chemicals are in your body, you're going to your shower, you're showering more of it on.

So maybe just taking people through the alarming nature, of this stuff quickly, concisely, but then take them on the journey of solution to illuminate the benefits of now what their body is doing as they implement these solutions. And I think you can do it in a

kind of cartoon kind of, you know, those draw sketches, those things that you can kind of accelerate yourself through that. And that's what I want to get. The thing that I always think about being in the health field all my life is that there was a buddy of mine did a market research 20 years ago if you survey most people in any demographic for the most part

on average if you say hey man are you happy most people will say yeah pretty happy between seven and eight we're so good as a human to adapt and then we believe this is how I feel this is who I am right and we anchor in that then you have someone maybe they haven't eaten well for a while they haven't exercised

then the overwhelming sense of unwell this that they have now they're like oh my god I just I gotta do something like they hit that place then they go they start eating better, they start exercising, and then a period of time happens. And then they start to experience

a different state. Now that seven at eight, it's a completely new way. It's a new outlook. So once you've experienced something going, you know how many people I've met in my life that say, I had no idea I could feel this way. The only way they can feel that way, is if they do something different. If they make another choice, if they exercise more, if they breathe, if they meditate,

if they get out of that, almost the fatal convenience of habits, right? The habits are taking you towards your life of creation, opportunity, happiness, or it's taking you down this other path.

The only way you can experience something different is if you do something different, right? That's the juggernaut. That's the whole thing because you can tell someone who's overweight and not feeling well, hey man, just go exercise.

You can say that all day long. Until they do it, same with addiction. I have a very good friend of mine who's struggling like crazy. I come from it. My dad died of alcoholism. there's nothing you can do except

create some sort of sense of I love you regardless and they have to make the choice and then when those people make the choice you make another choice get out of the perfumes the fragrances whatever and then you have a different sense

of well-being but you only you can listen to everything I say right now everything you say right now. If you don't implement, you don't get a change. You don't get to feel the difference. And that's the biggest thing.

If people walk away going, okay, I'm overwhelmed, but I know that maybe if I not have ultra-processed crazy food every day, maybe let's just try this meal and have something different. we just need people to take action in order for them to have a new set point because i guarantee them saying hey i feel okay from seven to eight they're just used to their state of being and there's a

whole other uh state of being that we that we get to go to if we're willing to take that step even when it's uncomfortable you know and that's that's ultimately underneath this whole thing i i don't the magic sauce to that, but it's, I don't want people to wait so long that they're suffering unnecessarily. There's that saying that the best form of activism is attractivism, to be able to be in the presence of somebody that is so vibrant, that is so healthy, that has clarity of mind, that is strong in their body, that is so inspiring, that it's an example that you can not just be in the avoidance of the negative states of life, but actually be in the adoration and pursue.

of the positive experiences of life. Once you feel firsthand viscerally how good it can actually feel to be in a human body, then it's like not doing a lot of the things that are deleterious to your system won't even be a question. You know, you're just going to do them way less because you can, you feel how vibrant this life can be. And most people just sadly don't know. They haven't experienced that because from an early age, they've gotten this concateny

of toxicity really that is supporting, that is not supporting them and feeling like truly vibrant within. And so I think that what we know is always within a larger context of what we don't know. And as we start to dive into some of these other topics here that can provide awareness for people to start making changes, then you can start to experience a new level of vibrancy in life. And once you actually taste that, then it's not like this discipline, willpower thing of me trying to like fight against myself every day no it becomes a natural buoyancy in once you live right and and so i'm fully on on the same train here with you and uh and so let's let's keep diving deeper into some of these things yeah yeah it's it's full um you know you've got you know i think of i think of

things as you know some some ways to take action i think start with the most vulnerable um from go within to outward. So what you're putting in your mouth. Yeah, food and beverage. Food and beverage is a big, big one. What your beverages are, what's in your beverage, what's your beverage come in. All of these things are very, very important.

Obviously, plastics, we want to minimize. Those are estrogen mimicking compounds that can have a very detrimental side. Now the easiest thing that people can do, the best water clearly is a spring water that's tested and out in nature. And if we all had that, then we wouldn't be having this discussion, right? I was just in the Sahadu where we could actually, there was points in the fresh water. We just opened my mouth and drink the water, like the water I was swimming in. And they test for Gerardia.

and so far it's away from everything so much that it's clean. So we don't always have that option, clearly. Easy thing to do. Everyone, everyone, everyone, filter your water coming out of the tap. We know that the biggest exposure, even though Phaas is in many things, one of the biggest exposures of a forever chemical

is coming from the tap water. Not to mention astrazine, other pesticides, herbicides, pharmaceuticals, BPA, BPA, BPAs, all of that stuff. It's in your water, you know. Also recommend with like shower filters and filtering the water in your whole house as well. Exactly. I mean, those are bigger cash investments.

But if you can do it, please do it because you are showering in that stuff. Easy things. A few dollars you can get a filter on your shower. So for sure do that. Get an RO system, reverse osmosis system, a couple hundred, and you can filter out your drinking water. Make sure to remineralize it, right? There's great, you know, unrefined salt, added a pinch per glass.

There's an incredible company I'm super stoked about. I don't know if you know, MANA, right? They've been popping up. Oh, man, they took like, you know, my superfood hunting hat when I see people finding the best ingredients and putting it in a product because I talk to the owners. deep sea minerals from clean sources the highest point in the in the Himalayas getting she legit so this is a fun a fun ad but you don't have to get that exotic like I use it but pinch of Himalay and salt amazing now you've remineralized clean water and of course

get a good container a glass bottle I love a blue bottle love You can get some cool etchings on it, have your own personalized little amplified structuring of your water. And now you've just eliminated tons of exposure to chemicals. And now you've got, you know, I take a glass bottle with me around the world. I always take one with like empty, keep it in my carry on. And I'll go so much as like, you know what I saw? First time ever, I saw smart water.

in aluminum. Even though not a still big fan of aluminum, I think there's some potential issues there. But for me, better than the plastic. So I'm like, hey, man, first time ever I saw aluminum in the airport. So I bought those containers. And then I take it out of the container. I put it in mine, add my own minerals,

structure it, shake it up. I just feel better. Even if I'm putting the good vibe into it, that's little things that I do are implemented and integrate. And that's what I want for people. You integrate those things. So water, water, water is so important. And then that same water is you're washing your veggies, your veggies, you're cooking with, now, man, you've just changed your life. And that is an easy investment.

And now you're the curator of your own freshwater. And then you certainly can go into beverages as well. Minimize your exposure to plastics whenever you can. And if you can find glass containers, obviously sugary drinks and flavors, even natural flavors are a little tricky. In my supplement formulation world, I really looked at this and stared at it firsthand. There's still flow agents that aren't so good for you even in natural flavors. Doesn't mean that every natural flavor and every product is necessarily bad. You just need a little more information from those said companies.

The companies that are doing that stuff, they usually are forthright with like, yes, we have natural flavors, but here's our concentrated version of water extracted flavor. compounds, et cetera, et cetera. So those are the types of things to do. Also, ask questions. Ask other people. Hey, what do you think of this beverage? You know, find your communities where you can get feedback from people. So, and obviously, we've talked a little bit about it. You know, I'm not an advocate of forcing people to do anything. I've been plant-based for, I don't know, 17 years. So, you know, I don't believe that we need concentrated minerals and constituents in the flesh of another, you know, being and to kill it. So, you know, I spent 20 years finding nutrient dense food.

So I haven't found a reason ever to kill an animal to eat it. That said, you know, when you have people advocating for that meat as a superfood, and then the normal person is buying conventional grown meat, you have a really big problem because they're listening to these people, they're listening to these carnivore people, and they can't afford organic tested organ meats from some...

New Zealand or... Yeah, some farmer somewhere. So 90... What is it? 97% of all of the meat is conventionally grown. And now you're talking about pesticides, herbicides, growth hormone,

antibiotic resistant bacteria. You are basically consuming because they have to, the ridiculous confined spaces, we don't need to get into that. Everyone can understand. It's a ridiculous model. It's insane that we're still doing this.

And it's just, it's just horrible. Yeah. The whole scenario. So if there's a great book called Meat Anomics, if you, I'll summarize my kind of one of my points of that, if you want to eat meat, if you want to eat fish, I put resources in the book. Don't eat regular stuff. Don't eat conventional because it is filled full of toxic material.

that you don't want in your body. Spend, save your money, spend a little extra if you feel you need it and don't eat it as much because the meatinomics of it all will cost you more, but will push you towards less exposure and also, listen, from my perspective

and from my colleagues, again, no minimize meat consumption, and you'll live longer. That's just, you know, ridiculously the science shows. Yeah. So, so, so, so that said,

make sure you're not consuming this, this toxic food that, that, that, you know, shouldn't be consumed anyway when you really start to dig underneath what is actually in that stuff. Yeah, it's crazy, like what, 80 or 90 plus percent of pharmaceuticals in the country are fed to animals and livestock.

It's horrific to even see footage. I've also just been on the plant-based train for seven plus years, and I feel incredible on it, and I also don't feel the need for any animal products because of all the things that come with it, and it's a conversation maybe for another time. I just had Simon Hillan a few days ago. We dove into a lot of that. So super great. There are so many things that I want to dive into in this.

podcast that I want to kind of take it into like a rapid fire of like I'm going to say if I'm going to say something give it your quick riff let's hop on on the next thing so we can touch on a lot of these and then towards the end we can dive into the you know deeper parts of certain things sounds good um so quickly since we're still on food and beverage fruit and vegetable dirty dozen organic not organic quick thoughts there yeah so dirty dozen the exposure of of like say an apple lettuces that kind of thing. If you can't afford that, then you want to make sure you're washing your fruit and veg. You want to do it anyway. Easy little hack that you can clean your stuff with hydrogen peroxide baking soda. I just soak all your veggies and all of that stuff. Easy fix. Obviously,

if you can buy organic and better yet know your farmer, local markets and better yet still grow food, it's the cheapest route anywhere. Even if you have a little bit of land, that is the best approach ever. It's hilarious that right before I, the next one was EMF, right? So I'm asking you to be quick with that one. Take the time that you need. But there's just so much that comes into. We spoke a little bit also with just, I think for anybody that's gone camping or has spent a night in the jungle away from noise pollution, light pollution, and electromagnetic radiation that we're constantly swimming in. The quality of deep sleep that I've gotten when I've done that is all the proof I need that the Wi-Fi and the Bluetooth and all the things that we're

constantly swimming in are not contributing to health. Of course, it's convenient. It's part of us now. you know so what are in your opinion the the most detrimental aspects of constantly being in these different electromagnetic fields and then the the most effective solutions to things that we can change that don't necessarily make it less convenient but more yeah i think i can rapid fire this pretty good i mean uh think it keep keep in mind it's proximity and duration that's the problem so when you have a phone next to you the proximity and the length of time that that exposure, that is causing problems. And here's the major problems that, and I'm talking about Bluetooth, I'm talking about Wi-Fi, talking about smart devices, and, of course, the phone, right? And gaming devices, right? So all of these things, what seems to be the alarming science, I get into this, I cite all the science in it. Andrew Huberman and I had a great funny not so funny conversation about it too.

And he was like, yeah, I'm never putting a phone on. That's on in my pocket again. So what we're finding out weirdly, and this was a little shocking to me too, is almost like a chemical exposure from some of these endocrine disruptors. So it's contributing to lowering testosterone. and motility of sperm similar to like, you know, something in home or personal care, right? So very clearly in animal studies and even some human studies, they're showing motility going down, contributing to lower motility. That's the basis of us moving forward as a species, right? And it's also showing free radical damage. So the stress response on a cellular level, is showing up. We are being stressed by this polarized electromagnetic radiation. Polarized is

everything that we made. Non-polarized is similar to like the sun. The sun is non-polarized. It's coming down. But if think of it in terms of like if you polarized it, you take a magnifying glass and you then bring it down and it can burn things and cause down. Clearly being over exposed in the sun can cause damage. Similar to this. So that's polarizing radiation that's causing stress. Also, the other alarming things is brain, right? So proximity of this, what seems to be a RNA signal of the replication of cells.

So the DNA sends, we're changing out cells all the time, right? So if you have proximity and duration and you're always having Bluetooth or, you know, Bluetooth is a little less because there's not as much radiation, but I still am not a big fan of Bluetooth anything in your head. But the phone is showing that potentially the proteins that are trying to rearrange themselves from the instruction of the DNA through the RNA is being thwarted. So the cell die-off is being challenged with the senescence. So then that raises the carcinogenic activity. So there's several studies around gyloa, tumor response in the brain. There's several studies that show the EMFs traveling all the way through the brain of a child.

So the immune system is not even close to what it is an adult. So children are super sensitive. And the other alarming thing around the brain is it's opening up the blood brain barrier and allowing proteins that aren't supposed to be in your brain going into your brain, causing all sort of inflammatory responses. We don't know the downstream effect because we're not doing the research. We're not doing the real studies. Even though the studies exist pointing to this stuff,

who's going to sign up for those studies of taping a freaking phone to your head and seeing if you get a tumor in a couple years, right? So this is, but we're showing it in stress response in humans. We're showing up in animal studies. Like this stuff, we need more studies. And the scary thing is they know that this is detrimental. The telecommunication companies, mark my words, they're using the playbook of the tobacco industry. Yes, it needs more studies.

And then they don't do the studies and they kick the can down the road. This is a dangerous world. Wi-Fi router. So what can people do? Plug back in. Do not put a cell phone up to your head. anymore. Use the, you know, if you need to take a call, go to a quiet place and take a speaker phone or literally plug back in. Wi-Fi routers, at the least, turn them off at night.

Yeah, get like a timer that does it automatically. Yep. Easy 10 bucks. Great company. Tech wellness. There's all these little gadgets. August, the owner, she's amazing. She's dead. She was electrosensitive. There's about 17% of the world has electrosensitivity. Similar to my dad having chemical sensitivity, now there's literally, the WHO is actually trying to classify this as a legit cause of challenges for people. So it looks like about 17%. And that's just people who have identified it.

I think we have a growing population of people, just like you. you're taking care of yourself, you're healthy, and you're realizing that you get away from this stuff, I sleep better, I don't have the same stress, I'm more calm because you're grounded in nature away from this polarized electromagnetic field. So these are some easy things to do.

Turn off the Wi-Fi, from my perspective, don't use Bluetooth in your ears, plug back in. and then just be aware of cell phone on in your pocket and women women please don't put your cell phone in your sports bra or anything else you're causing a whole host of potential stressors and then it freaks me out when people put their they're having a conversation they put their cell phone right next to their you know genitals and and we know through that through the studies that this is causing stress and lowering that motility and we don't even know the rest of what it's doing so use common sense i still have my phone it's off and it's over there right it's never on me there's other you know there's great companies that are emerging one called waveguard creating a science based um depolarizing toroidal field this is incredible they're doing tissue studies where they're sealing better healing when you have this device i can tell you about it

more off air these are great things especially like in this room and yeah you're having a lot of electro is it similar to like a blue shield or soma vedic i have those yeah yeah yeah kind of mitigate the negative effects yeah that's that's the idea and this one is for me um i was just more impressed with the amount of millions of dollars they put in the science of it but that's that's that's that's That's the idea. I've used all of them, right? So that's, we just want to use the best. And they also have a traveling one. I bring it with me on the planes and things like this. And also another thing to do is opt out of the TSA millimeter wave. You can do that and you have every legal right. Guess what? I've never in my life. And all of the many countries, I've been, I've never gone through one of those. I've always opted out. Easy solution also is like get TSA pre-check.

You don't have to go through the big wave one, right? Just like the normal electrical one, which is fine. Exactly. That's huge. All right, cool. Lots there. Clothing has a big one, you know? So what are the certain fabrics and materials that are going to be what people want to say most away from

and become most aware of the effects they have. Yeah, so some of the buzzwords you want to be aware of is when they say stain resistant. Yeah. That usually means some sort of Phafoss again. So here comes the Phaas. Keep in mind the Phaas is about 9,000 different Phaas molecules, chemicals. So when you have stain resistant,

that's usually some sort of Phafoss. water resistant, some sort of Phafos. And then in terms of material, when you have elastane or stretchy or nylon or all of that stuff, that is petroleum at its core. And then it's some sort of weave usually. Those are endocrine disruptors. And so think about yoga pants, right? Think about those kind of things and people are in them around their genitals,

sweating, working out in. Now there is, I don't remember the company, but there's a couple companies working to make healthy versions of yoga pants and things like that. So best materials, you know, these were made for me because I'm so into this. I had to actually reach out. A good friend of mine, Jeff Garner has been a sustainable fashion designer for 20 years. years. And he's been telling people about staying away from all the dyes, formaldehydes,

thalates, all of that stuff is in normal clothing. Can you speak into thallates a little bit more as well? Yeah. So thallates are plasticizers. They're what makes plastic malleable. And they're in everything. They're actually show up in lotions, right? They show up in, virtually all the clothing. So these are absolute endocrine disrupting. And so they're ingested and they're being taken in through the skin. And then in terms of clothes, there's azodes. These are full of heavy metals and off gassing of stains, dyes.

Now keep in mind, there's 8,000, 8,000 chemicals it takes to create a conventionally cotton shirt. That's bleach, that's pesticides, herbicides, that's sprayed, that's creating the cotton in the fields. That's also the detergents, the dyes, the stripping of it, the creating of it, and then the, the, the, um, dying of it, all of that stuff. so it's just again it's harmful to you in proximity of your skin it's also harmful to the environment so these things are if they're harmful to you they're always harmful to the environment so so i think of solutions as pay a little extra at least right now for organic cottons hemp uh bamboo silks are great this is all this is um partial silk and then uh hundred

cotton, these kind of things. And then one fun thing that I now do is upcycle. So, you know, I sometimes go on Etsy and find old clothes and find, because usually they've off-gast. They're still in cycle, so might as well just use them. And so there's ways to get stylish with this upcycling and then get less exposure to the petroleum-based. It's just so weird that we've dominated the creation of clothes with the highest pesticide-laden crop in the world. And we've plasticized and used oil to have as our clothing.

It is, again, it's just like, you imagine I've been writing this book for two and a half years and I'm staring at this stuff and I knew about it, but when you're reading this stuff and you're looking at the research, you're going, what are we doing?

Yeah. Why would we create clothes that are full of chemicals that are harmful and petroleum and wrap our bodies in them? Yeah. We spoke to this a little bit earlier too,

but, you know, the fashion industry being textiles industry being one of the biggest pollutants on the planet there's this one quote in your book I want to read the thought it goes nicely here so that we've been taught to think of the environment as something separate from ourselves as though the environment is out there

in terrible danger but we're in here safe and sound to some people that may be a comforting thought but it's not true we're all a part of the environment the same as every tree, lake, fish, and flower. We're just one more living thing with the same basic needs as every other creature. If something damages the planet, it damages each of us as individuals.

Yeah. You know, such a horrific example of that is the albatross. The bird that can soar and glide better than any animal, any bird on the planet. And it lives in the farthest island of any, of away from any other place of any other part of the world in the middle of the Pacific. And guess what? It's full of plastic.

Because those mother and father albatrosses are out fishing and they see the shiny objects that usually are some sort of sardine or something like that. and they go down and get it. And then they come back hundreds of miles later and then feed that to their little children. And the children end up dying because they're not filled of food. Many are filled full of plastic. And that's the furthest place from anything in the world.

There's no a way. It is killing you, undermining you, and it's killing the environment. There are pictures you can find to show this where there's a dead carcass of an albatross and then what lives beyond the broken down carcass is what was in its stomach. And it's a handful of plastic.

And I don't want to be a bummer. But what I'm wanting to get people to understand over and over again is that you're consuming things that are harmful for you. By the very nature, just like the quote, by the very nature of that product or that consumption or whatever it is that you're doing, your purchase of it is connected to how dangerous it is,

not only for you, but to the environment at large. Because inevitably, you grab that water bottle you drink it, you're being infused full of those chemicals that are harmful to you acutely, you throw it away, it doesn't go away, and it eventually goes back into the ocean or buried in the ground, which is then now broken down into the ground, which is then now going back into the freshwater aquifer example, and now you're turning on your tap and you're drinking that again. that is the crazy loop that we are in in every chemical that virtually that I've described here we already have done it several times there was a study that I highlight in the book

of teenage girls that over 96% of teenage girls and this was a study a few years ago that had DDT in it in the book in the blood. We banned it in 1972. That's how insane we are. We're playing with stuff that we don't have to prove

that it's safe. When I say we, the system is not needing to prove. They're not needing to prove that their EMFs are safe. That they're just throwing up and we're some weird experiment

and going back to, well, we're not doing a great job because only 2.7% of us are deemed healthy. So it's just like, man, I just want people to freaking get that there is not an overarching person out there that is looking after you. you have to and being the agent of change for you and your family and your friends be that and lessen the burden so that you can have the understanding and the experience of just i'm okay to I'm extraordinary to I am dialed to I am excited to I am the best ever to I am I have so much energy I can't help but to give it back to the world to share the love to share my joy to share what I want to contribute to the world that is not going to happen if we're not healthy man you know that can't happen and so

we need agents of freaking change that listen to this and go he's right i didn't know about a lot of this stuff but he's right more than ever dude you know you know this more than ever we need people to put on our big boy boots and big little girl boots and and and and kick some ass and clean up this world and uh that's what i'm excited about i'm excited about people like yourself and about your that that are tuning in, that do want change, that do want sovereignty. And it happens in your home. This is your home. This is it.

This is the avatar that we get to cruise around in this life and have an extraordinary life. Not one that we just kind of, I'm okay. This is just as good as it's going to be. No way. No way. Not on my watch. not not I want to live the best life ever and that is a continuous am I ever there no but I want to find out

I want to keep going I don't want people to suffer I don't want people like my dad to suffer and then pick up a drink and then die of alcoholism because they're so bummed out that they got taken out of life because of this crazy shit that we're in yeah beautiful man. I think that a lot of people can experience a big jump in health and vibrancy in their life with simple changes. And I'm sure, do you have an online resource for a lot of these solutions that you give in the book towards the end? Is it also online? If not, people can just... Yeah, I mean, we're putting a few more as we go. But the resources in the back of the book are solid. And it's a good point. Actually, I probably just throw the whole back of the book up online.

Cool. Well, if you do, we'll link that in the description as well. But one of the last categories is household products, which is a huge category. And it's one of the things we have the biggest control over, right? We can choose what we don't put in our house. So maybe we could start with laundry detergent because that's also another thing that screws the environment and that screws us again as well. But also having these clothes on our skin, you know, with the detergent that we use to clean them with is important to pay attention to. too totally and you know the the fragrances scream on this one right so they put you know the type of fragrances that try to overwhelm any odor of a of a clothing and so man i i i i left a t-shirt out of a friend's house um where i work out at and and they were you know wonderful to clean it but i couldn't wear it afterwards because of the laundry ditch i felt abused by that So the chemicals, it's like that second kind of inoculation and not a good way. But these things are easy to change. So scrutinize your laundry detergent because that is something that will keep inoculating you

in not a good way. But certain things of like even Castile soap and baking soda, you can make some great DIYs I have. But there's also some great emerging companies that have lavender and like now, or essential oil. And now again, we took something that was detrimental to you, but now we amped it up. It's actually beneficial to you. Another big one in the household is just all the things that have VOCs and that are off-gassing these, you know, chemical compounds that we're not aware of because usually they're odorless and can't, you know, you don't really know what the impact that they're having on you fully. And part of also like with the detergent is you just,

it's like the slow toxic buildup that you can make some changes that will just make, that'll provide you an easy solution with. And so, yeah, what are some of the big changes that you can make with things in your house that have the VOCs? And these volatile organic compounds that are just off-gassing constantly that kind of build up to this toxic bucket. Totally. it's a cumulative body burden that really is the big thing right so it's every day you know it you know look at your sheets what are your sheets made of you're sleeping you spend a third of your life sleeping right so what kind of sheets are you wrapping yourself in a lot of these things show up and like again stain resistant blah blah blah now

that PFS and all that stuff so spend a little extra money on organic cotton that kind of thing then if you want to go mattresses all of that stuff. Also, the cleaning products, clearly. Cleaning products, it's a scam a lamb, right? So you don't have to, you know, organic white vinegar diluted with some of your make your own essential oils, put it in a nice container. Boom, now you have a all-purpose cleaner that costs you 20 cents. You know, these things are, again, you can uplift your home environment. Your home environment is your second skin right um carpets not a big fan it's a big potential mold bacteria pathogenic uh impossible to clean and then you know they again they put resistant to stain and odor as soon as they do that now it's a chemical soup that you don't want to be off gassing for your your children are

climbing around on it your pets are climbing around on it um you know couches chairs things like that In California, I think less in the UK, less in other places, but it's still, you've got to be careful of fire retardants that they're putting. It doesn't stop fire. The history of that is ridiculous because it was from the 60s and 70s when people used to smoke in bed. So it was supposed to inhibit a cigarette from starting a couch on fire. So these are dangerous. There's even fire retardants in televisions today. for some weird-ass reason, right? So even your television can potentially off-gas VOCs, right? So these are weird, weird things. This is kind of like a comic joke. I'm like, who's the agent of flame retardants because they're really good? Let's just throw some in televisions, right?

It's ridiculous. Flame retardants in mattresses, chairs, carpets, all of that stuff. So look, be scrutinized with that if you want. Got certification, right? Or the GOTS. That's an important one to look at. Exactly.

Healthy cosmetics. EWG's got an environmental working group's got a lot of great resources and that stuff. There's a great woman that I learned later has been on this train. I think it's a mamacation or mama vacation or whatever. she's she's great resource um so yeah fine fine resources ask and create little communities and ask what's working but clean up your second skin clean up your house and make it um uh beneficial rather than destructive open up the windows right whenever you can open up the windows for circulation obviously uh you can get uh air purifiers to circulate that uh if the you know if it's too cold out

or whatever, but you want to open up windows and get fresh air as much as possible. Bring plants inside. And bottom line, get your ass outside more too. As you start to go on this journey of purifying your own system, the more you become sensitive to a lot of these things to where someone like you or myself might say,

David, can't stand next to somebody with clone or perfume or like once somebody washed my shirt with laundry detergent can never wear it again because it's just like a crime and violence against me. Like some people will be like, what the hell's wrong with these two? But the more that you actually become sensitive to these things, the more that you can actually feel the impact that it has on you. And so people are on different scales of that sensitivity. So I just think that's an important thing to note here. Well, it's a perfect example of what we talked about before. If you're just used to it,

you're used to it. Your body's created this resistance to it. When you detox yourself from that exposure, you then go, oh, number one, I'm feeling better, and I didn't know I wasn't feeling good, right? And then, yes, you become sensitive to the toxicity. The body's amazing. If it knows it's being toxified, it does everything it can for you to continue in your life. For you and I, we now can identify toxicity. So now we stay away from it. But if you're a person that has been in that toxicity. If you were focused on at 24-7, you couldn't operate. The body's amazing in the sense that it's like, I'm in this toxicity, but I've got to continue to move forward. So that's where the detoxification can so that you can identify these pollutants that are in our environment.

Yeah, the ones that are on us, that are around us, obviously you've got to be very careful, which ones, but also probably most important is what has the possibility to get in our system. So cookware is a big one right because we're cooking with our food with these things and these nonstick you know we talked about this idea of nonstick and our clothing and a lot of things that we're doing but also in and cookware that just um you know in teflon i think most people are pretty aware that you want to buy cast iron or stainless steel ideally but a lot of people also are not right or they've had a pan forever and it still has teflon thank god they're starting to kind of get rid of that altogether but but you know then you have you know tons of VOCs and the spray on pan stuff right so Pam and all of these things

which are wildly toxic right so you got to be careful with that but yeah get rid of pans that that still have that material in it because it's it's going into your food yeah and that's that's very detrimental we spoke to greenwashing a little bit you know where you could have these dishwasher dishwash soaps and because it has puppies and butterflies on it we think that it's healthy

for us right and so what are the big key things that you just look for is it simplicity and ingredients do you just find the brands you know are good and then you just stick with them you know

I think it's all the above I mean if you're in a you know if you don't know you definitely have to look at the ingredients so look at some of the solutions I have and then and then I would ask around, you know, find, find different agencies, certainly the EWGs and other agencies that are

testing this stuff. But yeah, I think that you have to start with on the back of the packages, but that also doesn't reveal everything because so many loopholes around this stuff. So when you see the fragrances, that is a way that they do not have to disclose, sometimes up to hundreds of chemicals that are just within the fragrance side. Because it's the trade secret, right? The trade secrets, right? So, and there's all kinds of flow agents, there's all signs of concentrations of who knows what. You know, there was a study of, in the carcinogenesis, which is a, is a, journal studying carcinogenic activity and they found 85 chemicals industrial chemicals that are used from making products making both industrial hard products as well as personal care products they identified 85

chemicals of that over 57 of those chemicals were known carcinogens and they didn't have to disclose any of them so that's what we're dealing with again that i never voted on that you never voted on that they never told us and they just have this one thing is is a fragrance or a or a um or a or a preservative or whatever they're not disclosing that stuff so you know Europe is a little better than us on that. Again, we're kind of upside down here in America. So we just need more information. We need people to scrutinize our products.

And honestly, it takes a little bit. But once you make that choice, then you don't have to worry about it again. It's just creating a better habit. We're all susceptible to these things we're speaking to, but in particular babies and also women because the amount of products they use are even more susceptible to building up that toxic payload.

Big time. And we know that we used to, certainly when I grew up, there were like the doctors would say the placental barrier protected the child, right? So my mom was, she was drinking and smoking, I think, when I was, you know, in her womb. Because the doctors would say, well, it doesn't, the baby's always protected.

That's not true. It's alarmingly not. not true. 287 chemicals are showing up in the ambilical cord of children being born today, right? 287 and well over 100 are known carcinogens. So the baby's already being born. And we do know that that is also playing an epidemiological influence on the child. So the mom is being impacted acutely. The baby is not even and born in being, who knows what kind of DNA flips that that's turning on or turning off. And we're showing that the, what's, Dr. Shanna Swan wrote a book, Endocrine Disruptors called Countdown. And they're showing all kinds of activity that's not just happening now,

but it's happening for our next generations. So again, we, There's so many, there's so much indicators here that are showing that there's danger, but we're not holding these companies responsible for proving first that their products are healthy. We wait until there's overwhelming evidence of something already in the marketplace to show that there's damage. that there's danger, that then they go in and take it off the market or they do test. It's a thing also called plausible deniability where the companies, hey, man, we never tested, so we don't know if our product is dangerous. Go backwards.

What? Crazy. Like this freaking Twilight Zone episode. All right. So we covered a lot. and there's an infinite amount of things to be covered. And kind of looking back in all the things we covered and some of the things we haven't, what do you feel like are the most applicable low-hanging fruit for people to change today

in the realization that this is progress over perfection? It's impossible to completely eliminate everything unless you want to just go back to the Stone Age maybe. So, you know, the biggest changes, a few things that are going to be simple for people, what, you know, in terms of everything that we cover, what would you say would be the most low-hanging fruit? Like I talked about the water, for sure. You open up your mouth, water, beverage, food, right? Improve those things because that's, you know, this open orifice that you're opening up to the world. Be diligent about that. And then kind of work your way out, what you're putting on your skin. things you're doing consistently, kind of, you know, look at that, what you're showering with, what you're putting on, all of those things, deodorant, especially, because that can have aluminum, heavy metals, and that's directly connected, especially women, lymphatic, and also breast tissue and carcinogenic activity. Eliminate the fluorides. You've done. You've done,

if you got the water you've eliminated that from your water eliminate that from your tooth brush and toothpaste because again you're opening up your mouth um those kinds of things uh and then work your way out from there improve the the you know i would then go underwear right and i would improve your cleaning products again unaculate yourself with good stuff rather than the detrimental stuff and break your habits so that you can reinvent your habits for the good. And I love to how we spoke a little bit earlier. There are things that you don't even have to change your habits to just do a little bit of research and then swap them out.

When you find a natural plant derived, you know, eucalyptus bed sheet or linen or something, right? And you just buy that or buy a couple sets. And then boom, you have it. Now you're not getting these off-gas chemicals every night when you sleep a third of your life, right? Once you find the healthy toothpaste that you like or the healthy underwear, that's just not going to be bad for you, then you're good.

It's like those feel like the simplest, right? When you just switch what you're purchasing. Totally. And it feels good. It always feels good when you integrate. When you go, hey, you know, it always feels good when you take a positive step forward for your life. And you go, hey, man, it feels good to have this organic cotton underwear on, right? Which I do.

You know, just like less of that stuff. It feels good to put natural oils on my body. It feels good to put the essential rose oil on as my essential oil of choice or my lavender. You know, when you get to integrate that stuff, you know that it's starting to contribute to a better life rather than the undercut, you know, division of whatever it is, direction that that is going. going in. So agency over your life is a powerful thing. As we start to wrap up and just feel into the possibility of one day a world that wasn't so toxic, what are some really inspiring solutions that you've been seeing companies do as like not just healthy alternatives, but also things that are a win-win for the planet as well? I know a lot of people are making incredible

innovations with fungi and mushrooms and so much. So I'm curious, you know, as you, have been traveling the world, you know, on the down to Earth show and your own personal history, you've been exposed to a lot of really cool ideas and people doing rad things. Yeah, yeah, it's a good question. I mean, I know a buddy of mine right now who's in the process of buying two companies who are going to change out the PFS for algae-based and hit it on a big scale because he's already worked with Walmart, Pepsi, McDonald's, ConAgra, like, you know, so at scale. And even, even, you know, told me yesterday. I can't reveal the company yet because he's in the process of purchasing hundreds of a million dollar contract, but he said that through their material science,

they will create fibers, natural fibers, that will be cheaper than plastic. And that's been the big thing. Creating something as good, not only because plastic's good at its job, it's a seal. It seals. It keeps the barrier clean. So you can, it keeps the barrier from liquids and foods and you can, it's malleable. But he believes that it'd be cheaper than even plastic. So when we hit that, which is going to be happening, it will revolutionize and everyone will switch. Also, waste annihilation is what we're working on. So recycling doesn't work. We fail. We fail. miserably. Even if you recycled, you can't recycle it yet again, so it still exists in the world. So recycling doesn't work. We need to annihilate this in a clean way. And so we're with some good friend of

mine, Chris Patton and his science team and some massive investment, we're looking at stadiums, NFL, NHL, NBA, and these guys are signing on to this technology. of having clean energy sources to create a temperature and pressure gradient to take anything virtually, certainly all plastics, and break it down to inert carbon black. Right?

So no off-gassing. This is going to happen in our lifetime. So we're creating 500 metric tons of new plastic every year. And now we're reaching close to 10 billion metric tons plastic that's still here. We need to get rid of it. And imagine getting rid of it and actually being able to use carbon. And also we're looking at graphene. You take it another step forward, graphene batteries. So now we're testing today. Graphene batteries that are a third less the weight

and have three to four times the charge capability. So imagine if we replaced it like, say, a Tesla car, you save the weight, right? So you're eliminating a lot of the weight. And now with one charge, 300 miles goes to 2,000 miles on one charge. And imagine then there's no lithium, there's no cobalt, and it's carbon.

it's not detrimental to the planet and you get 20,000 charges based on that because it doesn't break down. It takes a lot longer, if at all. That's the world. And there's other regenerative practices. I can't name some of the biggest companies on the planet, literally a good friend of mines working with them and they are today moving towards regenerative agriculture and so when these companies turn it's going to change everything because they'll lead the way there is incredible innovations happening we are looking at new energy systems that are turning humidity that's ambient right here with us right now into power on demand that exists today. I've seen it working. So imagine turning hydrogen that's here. Don't have to

store it because it's here to use right now on demand. That's happening. There is so much incredible technology and people coming together that that's where hope comes in. So we change our personal habits and then we put attention towards the creativity, instead of pulling around this chemistry stead of a body that's having a hard time surviving, we turn, we liberate the energy of some of the stuff that's pulling us down. And then we move towards our tribe to create a new change. And that's what I'm seeing is happening. That's what I believe more than anything else.

I believe the power of the human spirit. The power of the human spirit coming together for innovation and creation, against some of this darkness that's happening, you know, one candle in a dark room turns on the light in that room. And that's what I believe more than anything. So I want people reading this book, I want them to turn their light on.

And I just want them to minimize exposure and stress in their body. It's very simple because I want them to kick some ass in their life. I don't want them to be, you know, my whole life has been get the greatest superfoods in the world, eat rich plants full of everything. you know, that's beneficial. Now eliminate the stressors that wasn't your fault that was put around you.

So the biggest plan is so that you can contribute to the greatest life ever. And you can contribute to a purpose that will blow you away, especially when we all come together. Because clearly, clearly we need a revolution of positive, powerful people taking action. to create the life that we truly want. And that's what's behind everything that I've done, even this book. Mike drop. So great. And I think it's a beautiful note to start to wrap up here on because it's true, man.

The more that people actually start to develop their own genius that comes as a byproduct of raising their own energy, which comes as a byproduct of eliminating these unnecessary stressors and finding true health and vibrancy, you get access to that innovative spirit and providing solutions to real problems that we're facing. And I believe in the human spirit, just like you do so strongly, that we will create solutions. And it's just first a matter of raising awareness, which this book does so eloquently. So thank you for a lot of the work that you're doing. This is so exciting.

What a time to be alive. What a time. What a time. Oh, man. It's so good. And I'm excited to continue to see the ways in which you're sharing these innovations and and stories. And is there anything else that you want to share with our audience?

I know today for everybody that's been listening, if you made it this far, thank you for making that investment into yourself. I know it's a slight deviation from the typical conversations or topic of discussion that we have on the show. But I believe that in the pursuit of purifying your mind, body, spirit of becoming a self-actualized human being, it is just as much mind and spirit as it is body. And so it's they all without, you know, that they will hold each other back if they don't find their true level of potential. 100%. 100%. Yeah. I mean, I try to integrate this as much as possible. So I'm working on a couple new TV projects where I get to, you know, illuminate and bring more solutions together to show people to help people kind of give some attention to some of these things. So that's,

I'm stoked about that. So we've got some cool new people that I'm working with. And I get to, for my own well-being, I bring in all of the knowledge, all of the people together to be able to work in concert with everything. In my mind, everything I'm doing is the same. It just has different tentacles of expression, but it's all working towards the same thing. and that is to provide hope where maybe people don't see, provide on-ramps for solutions, bring people together that are wanting that same thing,

and then learning and expanding along the way. And of course, the actualization of our potential is, hey, man, we're here. Let's let it rip. Let's let it rip indeed. Beautiful. Thank you so much again. For everybody that's been tuning in, you can check out fatal conveniences in the link in the

description available on audiobook as well and anywhere you can find books. Is there anything else you want to point people towards? Yeah, just, I mean, let's see what happens. But yeah, Darren Lean, darrellene.com and my name on all the social. Great. And just look out. We're just getting going. Yeah.

Beautiful, man. Thank you. Thank you. And we'll have to have you back on. There's just you're a wealth of knowledge and information and inspiration. And so I'm excited for the conversation to continue. And thank you, man. Thanks, brother. Thank you to everybody as well. That's been tuning into this episode of the Knowles Self podcast. Hopefully that this is a resource you can come back to, get some more information and inspiration from and make these slight changes that have big ripples on your life, on your family's life, and ultimately the world at large. Thank you for tuning into this episode of the Knowles Self podcast. And until the next time, be well. You know.