Knowledge Fight - #1001: January 20, 2025 Continued

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan continue to observe how things played out on Inauguration Day for Alex. as Trump begins to roll out his executive orders and holds a celebratory parade indoors.

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Stop it Andy and Andy and Kansas Pray Andy and Kansas Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. This is a podcast where we like to sit around to talk about Alex Jones, where's the alter-sleeve? Oh, shit. Oh man, what happened? Oh no.

We're starting off 1001. Yeah. Oh boy, we're all the way back to one. Back to one. We don't even know what the opening is anymore. Oh no. Oh shit. Jordan, what's your dark spot?

Oh no. Oh, we've gone into the mirror realm. No. Oh shit. Jordan, what's your dark spot? Oh no. Oh, we've gone into the mirror realm! No! Oh no. I'll be hosting the show for the next thousand episodes, we've decided to do a switch. Okay. Welcome. Hi.

The end. Well, I whiffed the intro on this one, but hi. I think you're doing great. Jordan. Hi Dan. Jordan. Dan? Yeah. I have a quick question for you. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot Jordan we're still getting these buttons out. Sure. Folks. They're common people and it's very exciting a lot of fun

to do but I wanted to take this opportunity to scold a certain group of people scolding a certain group of people yes all right is this country based yeah okay yeah yeah what are you gonna do I've noticed something okay and I don't want to generalize too much sure this certainly doesn't apply to everybody from this country sure but I have noticed we have a lot of listeners like in Australia, okay, and I have noticed a lot of hubris a lot of hubris Yes, okay a lot of people who have sent in addresses from Australia Uh-huh think that I know what province they're in or whatever Oh, of course a lot of missing information that I need to like Google to figure out right where the fuck am I supposed to send?

This button sure and a lot of like you know it's confusing because there's like a Victoria in Canada Yeah, and in Australia so like if someone doesn't write Australia on there Oh, maybe I'm sending Australia button to Canada. That's trouble my point Is that yes of all the countries of people who have sent in button requests? Uh-huh? I would say that Australia seems like they are the people who most think everyone knows where this is. Sure, sure. I don't know that we do.

There's a very laissez-faire attitude in Australia. Sure. One, far more self-reliance, I think I would say. And that includes if you're more self-reliant, you're less likely to get post. Let's face it. It must be nice to be out there in the middle of the ocean. It must be nice to be out there in the middle of the ocean Must be great. Yeah, I would suggest not talking shit about Australia

At least not for the next year or so. I'm just saying yeah high incidence. Yeah of missing information I think it's oh, and also I would say there are rambunctious people from my experience Rambunct is what I would describe them. Okay, I Obviously don't know how all addresses are formatted. It's a learning thing that I go along the way with. I have found that Australians often leave off a piece of information that is critical, and I have a suspicion that the listeners in Japan have given too much information. Those addresses are long. I don't know what everything is being specified. Island nations have very, they kind of, their cultures kind of solidify a lot faster I think

than more expansive places. All right. Anyway, what's your bright spot? My bright spot, there's a new Mogwai album out Always I'm always gonna do it I guess that's I was listening to this album and I started to feel old Because I started to feel like this was my like, oh, I've listened to every one of the Dylan's albums for the past 20 years You know and it's like you don't need to listen to all of them You don't most of them you can just kind of skim through.

And then especially with Mogwai, because it's a post-rock band, most of their songs are instrumental. So it's not like you're singing along with lyrics or anything. And if you're not paying attention, then they can all kind of become one long song. Sure they can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're trying some different stuff. There's a lot more lyrics.'re doing some singing everything is far

more electronic and again I started to feel old cuz I was like ah man remember those days of the 90s sure mogwai fear Satan yeah they do mm-hmm you know and it just doesn't sound the same 30 years later it doesn't sound the same I have two questions that I am preoccupied with sure Sure. The first is aren't Mogwai the name of the like gremlins? Mogwai are the name of the pre-transformation gremlins. Right. I was trying to make sure I was like I think that's what that is. Yeah. I couldn't quite remember. Yep. And then second is there pre-rock? Um. There's post-rock. Is there pre-rock? Yeah, I would say it's probably R&B. I mean, if you want to describe it that. But I think post-rock...

Everything has to be in relation to rock? No, I mean, if you want to describe it... I mean, Mogwai is in relation to rock. You know, you could describe Broken Social Scene as a baroque rock and roll band, if you will. You know, there are different things that you could apply to various genres. Well, I'm just saying that if you know if we're calling something post rock something's got to be pre rock sure and then what about a sap rock that would be pre rock because ASAP of course you mean ASAP rock the deaf Jux I mean no I mean ASAP's fables oh as when he turned them into song you don't mean the

guy from Dev Jucks Rap Seemingly disconnected words. There you go pre rock Anyway Jordan today we have an episode to go over. All right, we're gonna be talking about the rest of January 20th 2020 Okay, all right. This is the the obviously inauguration day. Yeah on our last episode we went over the You know the Alex watching the speech sure inauguration speech sure the second inauguration speech Yeah, and then he went to the quiet place of the most high Yes, he did and I think that might have taken a lot out of him because he went to go take a nap

I think that's fair. I think that's appropriate so he got off air right and then he came back no During the war room no chase was hosting the war room and Alex took over for a little bit And so we're gonna experience the rest of the evening okay that Alex went through the rest of the evening that Alex went through on inauguration day. Yeah, he'll pop up for a little bit. No good tandem moments, but he's gonna make a little appearance on today's show. So we'll get down to business on all this,

but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Ooh, that's a great idea. So first, Tessa, there's no one Joe and I would rather have stood beside as we filled the basement of the Middle East with the sound of hissing. You're a magnificent woman of powerful hisses. Merry Christmas from Haley and Joe. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much! Thank you. I think we might see where we're at based upon... Next, this is Matt in Ireland who would like all Knowledge Fight listeners to know that his brother Scott in Richmond can in fact paddle the Lower James. Paddle the Lower James. Merry Christmas, Scott. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And Jessica and Nick road trip from Chicago to California and back listening to Knowledge Fight the whole time. Thank you for the perfect show to travel the country with. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we get a tech credit in the mixture. So thank you so much to our cat named Sushi looks exactly like Celine parentheses plus one I also every time Jordan talks about Iran, he confuses operation Ajax with the 1979 revolution and it vexes me to no end. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jar-jar banks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little kitty, baby I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ shots fired about operation Ajax. I'm fine with that I don't think I don't think I could tell you what either of them are

Well, Ajax is a major that can use him. Oh, that's fair. It's a powder that you use to clean your sink I only use mr. Clean the most patriotic of cleaning Mascots sure, of course, you know, you know who came up with mr. Clean the Iranians So Jordan today we start off when Alex comes into the war room about an hour and 20 minutes into the war room So he went to go take a little break II and came back Uh-huh, because Trump is gonna give a third speech of the day. Yep. I am Completely overwhelmed. I know a lot of you are as well I

Mean the stuff he said in his second inaugural speech that was extremely powerful on so many fronts He hit every point though. I wish the speech was only 40 minutes. It could have been a lot longer, but he did an excellent job and He means to do everything he said so the policy was just excellent the the And now. He did that totally impromptu. He's here. There was an area with overflow. People were watching a lot of his new incoming staff. Also just fans. And now he's at the scheduled.

Victory parade. And reportedly this is going to be big meat and potatoes. On the 200 executive orders that we still don't have all the details on. We've gotten some of what he's going to do. Very smart to declare a national emergency. It is an emergency that has all borders and the great reset that we're fighting to totally reverse and repair. But the way the laws have worked, he isn't able to even get what he once done, statutorily to override previous presidents emergencies unless he declares his.

So a lot goes into that and that's probably the UN reauthorized a few months ago, it's bird flu emergency. Oh, that's why. So this relationship with declaring emergencies in order to seize power cannot possibly fit with the image that Alex has presented for the rest of his career. He's up here on his show acting like it's just how business is done. All leaders need to declare emergencies or else they can't do anything because of the previous emergencies that past presidents have declared.

You need to declare emergencies and any president who doesn't operate that way would be an idiot not to. But that's not what Alex believes, at least if you judge by his public positions that he's expressed over the past 30 years. In Infowars world, the emergency is that they're declared so presidents can unilaterally do crazy shit they couldn't get away with otherwise. It's about subverting the constitution in order to exert power they don't rightly have outside of the context of that emergency.

I understand that the way Alex is trying to frame this goes like this. The globalists have set up a bunch of really evil stuff that restricts Trump from being able to enact his plans, and the only way that Trump could do what he needs to do to free America from this really evil stuff is by declaring an emergency, at which point he can act as a dictator and get rid of all that really evil stuff. If he didn't do the dictator move, he would run into problems trying to get rid of all the really evil stuff, because the globalists have built in resistance to getting rid of really evil stuff in the bureaucracy of the government and all the checks and balances. He has to take on unilateral dictator type power in order to save representative democracy. It's kind of like what happens in the Star Wars prequels.

I get that that's what he's promoting, but it's very stupid, and I don't think that Alex himself could actually believe that. I don't believe it. He obviously knows he's just supporting a guy seizing unconstitutional levels of power, because the way he's exerting that power is in line with the white identity based world that Alex wants to live in. It's just a bad strategy though, because when you sign off on someone acting like this, you really need to hope that the other side never comes back into power. If Trump has seized all this authority because of an emergency declared, it seems like it's

kind of silly to oppose the next president declaring an emergency to seize their own power. And if Trump can declare this emergency and then sign an executive order attempting to like it's silly to oppose the next president declaring an emergency to seize their own power? And if Trump can declare this emergency and then sign an executive order attempting to ban birthright citizenship, then why would you ever have a problem with the next president signing an executive order banning gun ownership? The 14th Amendment very clearly says, quote, all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. On this evening of January 20th, Trump released an executive order titled, quote, protecting

the meaning and value of American citizenship that says, quote, the 14th Amendment has never been interpreted to extend citizenship universally to everyone born within the United States. If the president is able to make interpretive decisions about the Constitution, certainly it's fair game to say the Second Amendment doesn't guarantee a citizen's right to own guns. Trump gets to do this kind of stuff because Alex really never cared about a president using an emergency to justify unconstitutional actions. He just didn't want them doing stuff he doesn't like that way, and he supports them doing stuff

He's into however it happens. Yeah principles around this stuff are just a charade. It's a mask. Yeah. Yeah It's interesting because it feels like Alex in inadvertently or perhaps advertently Post-vertently has nice Essentially normalized being a horrible dictator by calling everyone a horrible dictator. Yeah.

Right? So it only makes sense that you have a, it's like the same excuse the NSA has for spying on people. Like, yeah, it's unconstitutional, but come on. What are we not going to do it? They're going to do it. That kind of thing. Sure.

There's shades of that. You shouldn't be cool with that, but I guess we already are in a lot of ways. And then you have just like, it's smart if you're not, Alex, because this president, you know, as you're saying, like, why would the next president not do that stuff? Well, and it's because if they're a Democrat, they've already proved that they won't do that stuff. So you have full weight, like you should go crazy during these years, because even when you're punished by being out of power, you're not going to be undone. So you might as well go even crazier.

I understand that strategically from like Trump and all their positions, but like- No, it makes sense. Yeah, but they were very seriously gambling on the idea that someone who could do that will not emerge. Well, I mean, it's a good gamble. I think, yeah, it's fair. It's fairly, it's a fairly good bet. I mean, Obama didn't even, you know, do the financial crisis right.

Sure. So went through Congress for Obamacare and you know, like all that stuff could be, you know, this festival of executive orders that Trump carried out that night. Yeah. so many things that could have been just done shittily like this. This is shitty. Yeah, absolutely. But my larger point around it is less that, although they should be thinking about it a little. It's more that Alex has always pretended to care about how these things are being done.

Sure. Like the being opposed to executive orders and emergency declarations and stuff. Yeah. And it's all just circumstantial. It means nothing. Yeah, it is. It makes you wonder if that's kind of, was any part of it conscious? You know, like, is there any knowledge of,

as long as I can paint my enemy as the most evil thing I can think of, then my evil will be justified? I don't know, I don't think so. Yeah, it can't be. I think there are just sort of tricks that he's learned over time, and shit's gotten more and more desperate for him

in terms of trying to keep things interesting. Sure. And that's the point that you get to, the ball rolls downhill. There you go. But I do think that he would, you know, he's made a bunch of police state movies and I think he'd be totally fine with the police state. Yep.

I think he has no problem with that. Well, you know, people who want a police state are generally people who don't think they're going to be subject to the police state. I think he'd be fine as long as there was a executive order that white people didn't have to show their papers or something like that. Yeah, yeah. I think you'd be totally fine. Nazis were a lot cooler with the whole Jew thing because they didn't have to worry about

it. So Alex, you know, he really doesn't want Trump to do these emergencies and stuff. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? And I would hope as we restore our republic that they follow the War Powers Act again and presidents don't watch wars on congressional approval.

Trump on us for that and I would emergency is how we have the sickest kids in the world and getting sicker and it's by design. So this is a pretty good illustration of Alex's relationship with principles. He has a fundamental belief in the Constitution and it's so important to follow that holy government document. It's so important to follow that holy government document. It's been everything to him. Everything in his career has been about defending that, because the globalists need to undermine the Constitution in order to enslave humanity on behalf of the devil.

But now, he's a fully dedicated Trump supporter, and Trump has clearly indicated he has no respect for the Constitution, and he will undermine it however he can in order to achieve the political and financial goals he is seeking. And that should be a problem for Alex. The undermining of the Constitution is the actual problem, not just that the globalists want to use that undermining to enslave or kill off humanity. The act of undermining the Constitution is an actual problem because the globalists would never do that unless their goal was to enslave or kill off humanity. Because this formulation is super clear in Alex's content, Alex now needs to come up

with conditional reasons why it's sometimes okay to undermine the Constitution. It's okay when there's a real emergency like unhealthy children to address. It's okay when declaring emergencies and seizing unconstitutional power is the only way to achieve the goal you're seeking. If any of that is true, then there's no reason to pretend you have a constitution-based problem with the president unilaterally establishing a single-payer health care system. There's no constitution-based issue with the president restricting access to guns, which are a leading cause of death for children aged 1 to 19 in the United States. Alex can disagree with the goal, but he can't possibly have a problem with the method.

I'm harping on this a little bit, and the reason is because Alex's career is unique among the classic right-wing pundits. It's come out a little more religiously based in recent years, but even earlier on, he pretended to transcend partisan disagreements, and so he needed to find ways to elevate what he thought his points were and how they were being delivered. If he really just believed that guns were cool and people should have them, he couldn't just make that his point. That's what everyone else was doing, and he wouldn't stand out. He needed to set himself apart from the rest by pretending to report to the audience on

the decades-long plot to surreptitiously subvert the Constitution through executive orders and emergency declarations meant to take your guns away from you. People rightly label him a conspiracy theorist, and how that comes out a lot of the time is in him discussing the methods he believes his enemies are using. His positions often have little to do with the actual subjects he's pretending to cover, but are actually about secret moves the enemy is making behind the scenes in order to achieve their goals. Because a lot of his coverage and complaints revolved around these types of stories, the methods the globalists were supposedly using got a lot of attention, and are roundly understood

to be evil. But now Alex has to support someone using those same tactics and make excuses for why they're doing that, and in the process it calls into question how sincere any of his old complaints about these methods actually were. If there are circumstances where you can unilaterally infringe on the Constitution when you're president because you have a good goal that you couldn't achieve otherwise, you're in very dangerous waters if you're Alex. Very few of his past political positions make sense with that context added to them it kind of becomes

Too obvious that he's actually motivated by something else Like hate yeah, yeah, this is this is interesting all right, and I find this interesting because for his career Obviously he's been lying to his listeners, but he's been giving them lies that they like now Will will it matter or does it do aboard you they just like the new lies? You know what I'm saying like go where the lies are go where the people are responding to your lies I have to assume that it just like I don't know anybody who was gonna care is gone already, right? You know like yeah, yeah, or maybe they just never cared in the first place

Yeah, maybe they just liked hanging out with other Nazis there Or they get you know get a charge out of Alex yelling sure sure sure but does something for you. Yeah I don't know it's nice See I don't know what the path forward for him is but it has nothing to do with continuing the tradition of what his career has been about now and know what the path forward for him is but it has nothing to do with continuing the tradition of what his career has been about. No. And I don't know. I mean it's a bummer. It is it is it's a it's a I think I think the question now is going to be like will he ever be allowed back you know what I mean? Because it's

I mean unless this lasts forever but after this is done people going to do the same thing that they've been doing where they're like, you had a rough go for eight years, now you're back to being the real guy that we remember? To what audience? Exactly. Like, do you mean to conspiracy right-wing audiences? Yeah, I mean, when they're done enjoying the new lies, are they going to go back to the old lies? I mean, I mean when they're when they're done enjoying the the new lies are they gonna go back to the old lies I Mean, I don't know I think that

What we've seen is all been pretty downward slides in terms of like Quality sure so you have like Tucker being a respectable shithead cable news pundit supporting the Iraq war sure sliding down to Fox News Trump pundit sure sliding down to I was attacked by a demon sure those are all downward slides and people have accepted him as he hit each level sure and I think if there's another downward slide he'd be accepted wherever that is sure you know like I don't know swastika tattoo on his forehead

Yeah, accepted by that group right, but I don't know if you could ever get back to The place you slid from yeah, you know I mean I mean, I think that's the same with Alex like I don't think he could ever become like The guy who was in waking life and yelled about 9-eleven being an inside job in the Federal Reserve I don't think he could return to that. Yeah could find another spot under this Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting question because with the media you can return back to if you go down That's for them all a lateral move So like you can go back though

They can't wait to hire you back in because then you give them the legitimacy of being like see We're above the partisan thing because we've we've elevated Tucker Carlson back from The demon bit me too now. He's Fox News biggest host again. I don't I don't know if he can do that Yeah, I know you wouldn't want to do it. No, but I don't I don't know if it would be accepted I don't know if he would have an audience for that. Hmm I think that people would look at him as a sellout and whatever he's done He would I think you would lose too much by going back up. Yeah, I think the path

Through goes down. I'd be interested frankly. Yeah but yeah, I Think that Alex has made his bed He'll have use forever as like the image of a guy who was prophetic and he was right about everything Sure Like the fake version of him that lives in Tucker's head that will be useful for people Regardless of what happens to him. Sure just so long as the late end of his career doesn't end Too embarrassingly what you gonna do looks bad now though. It doesn't look great

So there's a border patrol agent that got shot. Okay, I don't know if you heard about that too embarrassingly. What you gonna do? Looks bad now though. It doesn't look great. So there was a border patrol agent that got shot. Okay. Recently. I don't know if you heard about that. Nope. But Alex talks about that and then he's trying to weave it into some of his narratives about false flag attacks. Gotcha.

On migrants. And I think they'll hit the migrants or a pro migrant demonstration with a mix of people who are citizens and migrant. That's 80% of the programming, but they keep hyping he's going to come kill the black people with just zero evidence, totally cockamamie. Why the hell would Trump do that? I mean, he doesn't dislike black people.

Plus he loves everybody in America and who loves the country. And why would he do that out of a clear blue sky? Don't know the people telling you to do that with just absolutely random. No evidence are the obviously the ones that stand to gain from it. And it just goes on and on and on and on and on. So this just happened in the last couple hours. Border agent reportedly shot dead in Vermont traffic stop as Trump sworn in. A border patrol agent in northern Vermont was fatally shot in the neck by what is reported to be a illegal immigrant.

And they're just out of control, folks. Just after President Trump was being sworn in hundreds of miles in Washington on a promise to deem the border crisis a national emergency on his first day in office. And it goes on to say the border agent was shot while conducting a traffic stop the shooter who Bradley referred to as a visa overstay was also reportedly killed. So that's thanks to the Biden administration and George Soros and the NGOs. Vermont public safety officials have issued a news release announcing the interstate 91 at mile marker 1 at 6A is closed due to an evolving police incident.

The location is near Newport, north of Burlington, near the Canadian border. Vermont officials have not released additional information on the incident. So here's another border troll agent shot and killed during traffic stop. Canadian border Vermont officials have not released additional information on the incident. So there's no border troll agent shot and killed during traffic stop. It's Fox. This border agent killed now this is what we're talking about. In fact, guys, I've been to tag, get the clip of the mayor, the jerk in Chicago ready. Borders are Tom Homan says raids on sanctuary

cities to the port of legals may be paused after plan was leaked and that's bad guys inside it's coming out because they still got leftist in there and they're still talking to NGOs. Oh no, the deep state plan to hit what they're planning to do, namely Chicago as early as tonight. to hit what they're planning to do, namely Chicago, as early as tonight. Ooh. And that's good to be careful because this is they're walking into a trap to brand all of what Trump's doing

to secure our nation and our borders. And you're going after the human traffickers and the sex slavery, they need to, I mean, think about one person died in Charlottesville and acted like it was the end of the world and blamed Trump. And in J six, they said seven cops died. No, no cops died. It's just that they will. And they call that worse than Pearl Harbor. I mean, you get a couple hundred illegal aliens shot at some man to, you know, Trump rally and they blame it on a Trump supporter and kill some patsy. It's going to be crazy. And they're

going to activate the leftist groups, anti-file the communists and the black lives matter to burn the country down And when Trump does call the military out there to call him a dictator Then they'll hit us with the cyber attacks the power outages and God knows what that's when they're gonna make their move But as long as we're aware of it and the public is looking for that There's a good chance. They won't try it But we got to get this as a front burner issue Nobody else is gonna make the point. I'm this is as clear as the nose on my face Very clear very clear

So Alex's big conspiracy storyline here is that the Trump administration is gonna carry out raids meant to round up undocumented immigrants Which insanely Alex supports but I guess whatever there is some opposition to this plan So people have indicated that they're going to protest these raids, and when possible, maybe even try to obstruct them through some form of civil disobedience. Alex believes that these protests will be cover that the globalists will use to set off truck bombs and mass shootings, targeting the protesters, which will then be blamed on Trump supporters as a way of demonizing Trump's plan to round up immigrants. On one level, this is just Alex doing preemptive damage control for the fact

that there's a non-zero possibility that some Trump fans or more extreme right-wingers who feel betrayed by Trump's insufficient action, they could commit acts of domestic terrorism against left-leaning protests. Alex knows that this would be a huge PR problem for his business, so he has to do everything in his power to make sure that no one cares if some act of terrorism like that happens, or at least if they care that he's able to hijack that concern and redirect it towards things that are profitable for him. But in order to flesh out this narrative, Alex is incorporating this breaking news about a border patrol agent getting shot.

This is meant to be an example of the sort of thing Alex has been predicting will happen. This specific incident is reported in the context of this larger story because it's supposed to be connected. However, this was about a German guy in Vermont who had overstayed his visa and had been under surveillance prior to this traffic stop. He and a 21 year old woman from Washington state had been reported to the police as suspicious because they showed up to check into a hotel in tactical gear and the woman had a gun in a visible holster. That's very suspicious. It's a little, it's a little bit... It's suspicious.

It depends on the hotel you're staying in, whether or not it's going to be, I'm calling the police suspicious. I mean, hey. So, the police had been following them, and they saw them go to a Walmart, and the man exited the store with a bunch of aluminum foil, which was eventually used to wrap cell phones, which is a little bit suspicious. The Border Patrol attempted to make a routine stop to bring them in for an interview and the woman started shooting, ultimately killing one of the agents, and in the firefight the

German man was killed also. According to the Seattle Times, the woman's parents had reported her missing to Seattle police in May, fearing that she was in a quote, controlling relationship and was being forced to cut off contact with friends and family. I don't know exactly what happened in this case, but it definitely appears that she was in a quote controlling relationship and was being forced to cut off contact with friends and family I Don't know exactly what happened in this case But it definitely appears that it was some some bad shit The issue is that it has no connection to Alex's narratives about immigration protests and false flag truck bombings He has no information about this story other than a couple of surface details

And he's trying to use that to manipulatively reinforce the story he's been pushing. This is not following best practices with reporting. Yeah. I'll say that for sure. Yeah. Yeah. There should definitely be some rules. But I think more importantly, there should be some respect for a crazy fucking story.

You know, if you're Alex, you should be like, hey, tip of the cap, this story is fucking nuts. You know, it's pretty nuts It's pretty nuts. Yeah, but it also seems like from the details that are available when I was preparing this episode It seems like it's an instance where there was probably a fairly abusive guy who had Some influence on this woman right right right they were were committing some crimes. The problem isn't CBP, the problem is domestic violence. It seems like that's more the headline. You know.

But I guess Alex can use it for his conspiracies if he wants. I think, and I don't know, I can't prove this, but I would bet, I would bet everything that I've ever owned and will own in the future, that if we got rid of all of the agencies that we had had and then put them into one big agency that just deals with domestic violence, we would do better at solving the problems that all of the agencies have. You should run for president so you can do that in executive order and Alex can complain

about it. I think they probably would, but maybe Alex would get torn up by a dragnet. So here we get one of our favorite fucking things. Yeah. And that is a Thomas Jefferson quote. Great. And again, it's all meant to weigh down the carrying capacity of the civilization, demoralize people, make them give up. That's how you conquer a country is by collapsing it from within. As Thomas Jefferson said, America could never be conquered from without. We would have to be rotted from within. So that's not a Jefferson quote. No, there's no way Thomas Jefferson said that could never be conquered from without we would have to be rotted from within so that's not a Jefferson quote

No, there's no way Thomas Jefferson said that nah It went around social media a couple years back being attributed to Abraham Lincoln and the folks who researched the quote agree that it's basically a rephrasing of an actual line from a 1838 speech that Lincoln gave okay quote at what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and our finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all time or die by suicide. This speech that Lincoln gave was specifically about mob violence that was popping up around the country, lynch mobs and what have you.

Sure. On an unrelated note, one of the first things that Trump did when he got into office was pardon all the members of the Oath Keepers militia and Proud Boys street gang who conspired to use mob violence to stop the certification of the 2020 election. So this is an inconvenient misquote

that Alex is trotting out here when you understand where it comes from. Yeah, and if it's, I don't know if this is, if it was going on at the exact time, a misquote that Alex is trotting out here when you understand where it comes from. Yeah. I don't know if it was going on at the exact time, but one of those things that this quote could really very much apply to is whatever, Kansas and Missouri went to war about slavery. That was fun. It was fun. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think that had to do with Operation Ajax. I think it might have. But I always mistake it for the revolution of 1879 sure yeah, so Alex he does not stick around all that long I think it's bored and so chase comes in and This this fucking dork hmm I think what we're gonna see from Donald Trump is more action in the first 30 days and the first four weeks of his presidency Than we saw from Joe Biden in the first 30 days and the first four weeks of his presidency than we saw from Joe Biden in the first four years of his. This is not somebody who is a puppet who obeys the orders or commands of the globalists at the top or the elite of the highest levels of the political class.

He's not someone who is subject to the world bankers or international interests. He owes them money. rather those interests which exist exclusively outside the interests of the United States of America we are ending the reign of post-world war two globalism less than a hundred years after the end of world war two and we are beginning the reign of the 21st

century's national sovereignty populist movement, total awakening, Pax Trampana. So Chase is very clearly referencing the idea of Pax Romana here, which is a term that's used to describe the period between 27 BC and AD 180. The term Pax Romana translates as Roman Peace, but it's an ironic name because that was not really a period of peace. It was a time of insane Roman Imperial conquest when it went from a republic to an empire.

Octavian ruled as a bit of a dictator and a lot of it went pretty well because the Romans were incredibly strong and their economy boomed considerably partially due to the invention of concrete. Also, let's not forget that the period of Pax Romana included the time when Caligula was emperor. So maybe Info Wars shouldn't be into that, right? I mean, their whole thing is about being against the Epsteens and stuff.

Like, during Pax Romana, there was Caligula, and their guy, Pax Trompana, was friends with Epstein. Yeah, but I mean, you know, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? This doesn't mirror well the guy who Caligula what you know is better than the than the Europeanists because they didn't have global they didn't have the globe back then sure Yeah, and also if we if we if we believe this framing that Chase is using, then Mark Anthony is Biden. Okay. All right. So Melania is Cleopatra? No. Oh, Jill Biden must be. Sounds right to me. Sounds right to me. No, because I guess it's the third term of Obama.

So you could say that Obama was Mark Anthony maybe. Okay. And then Michelle is, or Hillary, I don't know. Oh, and then Hillary. Obama wasn't having sex with Hillary though, so. Yeah, and they made Hillary sell out to the globalists like Cleopatra had to give up her emp- there we go. It all makes sense now.

It's all coming together. It's all coming together. Bear in its colligula. You know what? It repeats itself, history. It's all coming together. It's all coming together. Bear in its Caligula. You know what? It repeats itself history. It's crazy like that. So Chase goes on and he's talking about how like, yeah, sure, all the billionaires were

there at Trump's inauguration. You can just believe anything, can't you? You know? Like he's not lying. I mean, he's not lying to himself. He believes some of this crazy shit. Some of it. Wild. Some of it. but like a little bit later

We're gonna hear some more of Trump talking One of the things that kept running through my head as as I was listening to it was The only relevant question here is to what degree are you aware you're lying, right? That's the only real relevant question. You're saying complete a real relevant question. You're saying complete bullshit. Absolute nonsense. Yeah, it's not worth engaging with you on a true or false level. Are you insane or are you just that deeply malicious that you are rattling off repeated lies at me

and demanding that I accept them? And I think the same is kind of true of Chase. It's like, how much of this is is like How much do you know you're lying? Yeah, it's a it's a percentage, but I'm not sure what it is Yeah, you know, but at the same time it's like it's a percentage and then it's a paycheck You know like what I'm what I'm doing is my job. I'm not lying to anybody I'm just doing what I'm paid to do man that kind of thing I think I feel like chase probably could get a job somewhere else. He's one of the few

people I think may be competent. You want to give him an internship here? Fuck no. But like he could probably have some job in, in, you know what? I spoke too soon. I don't know what he could do. I was going to say, I don't know if he can do a thing. I think until he became like really branded as an Infowars guy, Owen Troyer probably could have been a totally fine like sports reporter or whatever. Like he has enough chops to fill some slot.

Sure and it's not a gig that requires the massive level of talent. Not really. And I think that Chase has some skills that would translate to a job if he weren't branded as the Infowars guy. Whereas Harrison I think has no redeeming quality whatsoever. No, no, no. Jayce seems like a good late night radio. He should play some music.

I'm thinking IT guy. You're thinking IT guy? I'm thinking behind the scenes because he runs all the spaces. I want him on air from 2 to 4 a.m. playing his heart out. Whatever music he feels like listening to. That's what I'm here for. College radio. I wonder what it would be.

I can't imagine. A lot of mogwai. I bet. He's a huge post-rack guy. So here's more of Chase being a fucking dork. Okay. And we're going to see people go up and give speeches and talk about how great Trump is

and just totally kiss his ass. And we're going to see from the Zuckerbergs and the Bezos's and the Bill Gates's and the other globalist elites, even the Alex Soros's, how they're just gonna stroke his ego in an attempt to flatter him and flatter him and flatter him because they believe that he is leading based off of vanity or some superficial motive. But it's not true. He's leading for the sake of his legacy, which one could say is vain, but it isn't in his case, in Trump's case, because it's not true. He's leading for the sake of his legacy, which one could say is vain But it isn't in his case in Trump's case because it's about what conscience Something these globalists know nothing of something the Alex Soros is and the Bill Gates is and the and the George Soros is

No, nothing of they haven't tasted conscience since their youth that they even had it then a conscience And so he's not gonna fall for it. He's not gonna fall for the vanity in the flattery He doesn't care anymore because he dodged a bullet and he saw the face of God Okay, so we as a nation need to realize that what Trump experienced in Butler, Pennsylvania Dodging of a bullet and seeing the face of God seeing the hand of God is also what we as an American Population experienced you're a fucking lunatic. Hey, what you gonna do? of God, seeing the hand of God is also what we as an American population experienced. You're a fucking lunatic. Hey, what you gonna do?

Trump saw the face of God. Well, sure, sure they're there to flatter him because we all know he owes a lot of people a lot of money and is very susceptible to flattery. Yeah. Especially because we saw that on the television altogether for decades. And the billionaires are going to need his acquiescence and him not being a giant dickhead to them in order to keep their businesses going and make record profits. Yeah, they do tend to care about that more than winning or losing the president.

Yeah. So obviously it's a great relationship for them now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean can you can they still be mad at like corporations that like donated to Biden or Harris or whatever because now they're just going to give a lot of money to Trump. You know like shouldn't they be like hey welcome welcome aboard Bud light now no more no more of this openness yeah I don't know. I mean we do know that Trump banned woke he did stopped woke he did He did have an executive order to get rid of woke He okay. Yeah good get rid of all di de I stuff about time

Yeah, trying to undo affirmative action. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, people could just make the choice to hire more black people without a law, but I guess that's just not possible. Sure. Yeah. So I think that, you know, we have a situation where things are bad. Yeah.

So later on in the evening, they come back on air sure and at this point Trump is Signing his executive orders great people are around him fielding questions They're asking questions to him while he has put paper put in front of him And he just signs that he has no idea what these fucking things are why would he why would he give a shit? Why would he give a shit? None of it matters to him! It's almost comedic on at least a couple of points where he's like, ooh, what's this one? And the guy's like, this is the thing about firing a bunch of people. Doesn't matter.

Ooh! Could have been anything. Could have been anything. I don't know why anyone is bothering to do the things that he says. Whatever you could just be like, oh, we missed, like it wouldn't be hard. It's absolutely crazy that he's just so clearly signing whatever the shovel in front of him. So here's a little taste of that.

Mm. Did you talk to Xi about the Ukraine war? Yeah. Because China and Brazil together has a proposal to bring Russia and Ukraine to talk. That's good. That's fine. I'm ready. When are you going to talk with the Brazilian president?

How did Brazil get involved? Brazil's involved. This is a new one. When are you going to talk to the Lord? Are you from Brazil? I'm from Brazil. That's why you're involved. When are you going to talk to the Brazilian president?

How do you see our relationship with Latin America and Brazil? Great. Should be great. There you go. They need us. Much more than we need them. We don't need them. They need us.

Everybody needs us. Okay. All right. Day one. That's fun. Going strong. That's fun. That's just. That's just that's just good old-fashioned fun. I guess I mean it's irresponsible at best What's Brazil up to these days?

Brazil where my Brazilians at look we need us. We don't need them Hey little dirty joke millennia knows Brazilians. You know what I'm saying. Hey everybody. Oh, no. no they need us we don't need them is a different tone than when Bolsonaro was in office but oh well what you gonna do so chase much like you recognizes the humor that is going on with Trump's yeah handling of the press mm-hmm he just he's like this is great I hope the audience appreciates how his during what is it? Literally taking the questions and just not jolly signing executive orders to shut down the whole political press. It's only because they're fentanyl.

There are other things. The whole deep state establishment. And a very big thing is the Panama Canal. China controls the Panama Canal. What's that all about? They're not supposed to be good. When Jimmy Carter gave it, which was a terrible mistake, a terrible mistake, he didn't do it, he didn't give it to China, he gave it to Panama.

And China controls the Panama Canal. And we're not going to allow that to happen. We're not, no, we're not going to allow that to happen. Thank you, sir. What can we expect of the countries in NATO that spend the least amount of money, like Spain, France, below the 5%? Spain is very low. And yet, aren't they a BRICS nation? What? They're a BRICS nation, Spain. What's Brazil up to these days?

You know what a BRICS nation is? You'll figure it out. Wait, there's a journalist in there who doesn't know what a BRICS nation is. This is probably what Tarla's going to become. Okay. Okay, so Spain. Yeah, Spain. I didn't see Spain coming. No.

So BRICS is an acronym meant to describe the countries that are a bit more in the Russia and China sphere of influence, which exists sort of in response to the G7 group of countries. Their grouping, the BRICS, was formed after Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 and it became somewhat clear they were going to be kicked out of the G8. I'm glad that Chase thinks this exchange is funny and illustrates some ignorance on the part of this reporter, but it should be pointed out that Spain is definitely not a BRICS country. No. The S in BRICS is for South Africa, who joined what was then called BRIC in 2010. There are 10 countries in BRICS. There's Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, and the UAE. There are nine countries who were

offered status as partner states and then accepted, which are Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Thailand, Uganda, and Uzbekistan. Spain is nowhere near this thing, and yet the whole conversation about BRICS countries began with Trump complaining about Spain not paying into NATO enough and accusing them of being a BRICS country. He's the one who doesn't know what he's talking about, and yet Chase is too dumb to realize this so he just laughs at the reporter filling in and just falling in line with whatever the God King says.

Trump dictates the terms of reality and then Chase insults people for not following them even though they're stupid. Yeah, that's a bummer. It is. It's's a bummer. It is. It's a real bummer. What if, and I'm gonna throw this out there, now that he's president, he knows that secretly Spain has been a Bricks nation this whole time. I will change my tune.

I think this is something that we need to investigate. Sure. He's just asking questions about where Spain exists, and I'm gonna tell you something, it's in Europe. I wanna follow your line of thinking on this. Sure. He's just asking questions about where Spain exists, and I'm gonna tell you something. It's in Europe. I want to follow your line of thinking on this. Sure. I'm gonna say that even if Trump has secret information that Spain is secretly a BRICS country, Chase's response doesn't make sense. That's true. Because Chase is acting like this reporter is the asshole. Yeah. Yeah, there's really no way to square this one. Chase doesn't have that secret information that Trump has that Spain is secretly a BRICS country.

No matter how you slice it, as they say, Chase is a real idiot. Yes, he is. Yep. So you play some more of this live Trump signing fest, and the subject of TikTok comes up. Cool. You know, there's the tick-tock ban I do know that there was the tick-tock ban that everybody wanted specifically Trump and then there was the tick-tock ban that nobody wanted Specifically everybody and now there's the tick-tock ban that they're not gonna do because people are mad, correct

Essentially what it was. Yes more or less. There you go It gets a little weirder in this context though. Sure. President Trump, you and your members of your team now used to warn about the dangers of TikTok spying on Americans. What changed that you're not worried about that anymore? Well, it depends on the deal. I mean, I may not do the deal or I may do the deal. TikTok is worthless, worthless. If I don't approve it, it has to close. I learned that from the people that own it. If it, if I don't do the deal, it's worthless. Worth nothing. If I do the deal, it's worth maybe a trillion dollars, a trillion.

So if I do the deal for the, I'm talking about doing it for the United States. If I do the deal for the United States, then I think we should get half. The TikToks you can't. In other words, wait, I think the US should be entitled to get half of TikTok. Why? And congratulations, TikTok has a good partner. And that would be worth.

No, it doesn't. You know, it could be $500 billion or something. It's crazy, the numbers are crazy. That seems a lot like mob shit. That makes perfect sense. As long as they pay me the protection money and give me half of their business, I will allow them to continue operating in New York City. If you do not pay me, then I will burn your building to the fucking ground. You got a nice TikTok here, be ashamed if something happened to it.

It is strange that everybody is in the room listening to this man say this and going, interesting, I'll put that in the newspaper instead of going like, oh, this man's a lunatic. Follow up, Mr. President. That sounds a lot like extortion. You're a fucking mafia don. You understand that, right? Yes, I'm a mafia don. That's what I do.

Okay, fair enough. That's what you do. With this pen, I can either make TikTok worth a trillion dollars or zero so why don't you give me oh whoops I mean the United States half that's amazing would you like to have in my meme coin I mean I'm not gonna say that that's not a lot of how America has gotten a lot of territory over the years I think Hawaii might actually be the exact, that exact situation. Whatever the case is true or not true about the past, the present, I feel like we should be past

that a little bit. And let's say that you are still engaging this way. Acting, like being this sort of naked about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should lie. You should lie to people. That would be the way to go, I would say. So they talk a little more about tick-tock and they want to know like why did you change your Position on this sure and it seems like his answer is there's an extortion racket that he feels like he can get into right and then second He realized like I can fucking push so much misinformation on tick-tock. Yeah, the kids love me on there It's one of the biggest places for it. Yeah. How many different products made in China? Nobody ever complained about it. The only one they complain about is TikTok. And TikTok is largely young people. I guess I have a warm

spot for TikTok that I didn't have originally. But then I went on TikTok and I won young people up by 36%, Peter. And Republicans typically don't do too well with young people. But it's a different Republican party. Would the U.S. government buy a portion of TikTok then? Or how would it get that 50%? No, you'd take 50% of TikTok for the approval that TikTok can continue in business.

And they'd have a great partner in the U.S. You just keep saying it! But the U.S. essentially would be paid paid for doing that half of the value of TikTok. Would there be a private sector owner as well? Could be, could be a lot. Why is that your question? You looted it. You fucking idiot. Who wanted to block TikTok? Why did it change their mind? Because I got to use it. And remember is largely about kids young kids if China's gonna get information about young kids

I don't know The problems in that But you know when you take a look at telephones that are made in China and all the other things that are made in China military equipment made in China TikTok I think TikTok is not their biggest problem. But there's big value in TikTok if it gets approved. If it doesn't get approved, there's no value. So if we create that value,

why aren't we entitled to like half? Yeah, I mean, your building is gonna be used. It's not worth anything if it's burned down. I have to say that I think everybody in that room is fucking dumb together I think a lot of them are probably surprised those press people are fucking stupid in shock You would have to be a moron to ask any of those questions. I Apologize for those idiots. I apologize for insulting them, but they're fucking stupid I somewhat think that there may be pretty tactically good questions

Sure, because he keeps answering them. Well, you know, like what are you gonna do? He probably wouldn't have answered some question like How is this any different than a shakedown? I bet he would have I bet he 100% would have but not by Reframing it and then expressing again that I'm trying to shake down this company And then expressing again that I'm trying to shake down this company Well, those are those are just wow Okay The other thing too is I like how he hit a brick wall when he was like, you know If China it's all a lot about children and if China is gonna be trying to get information about children The thought just dropped because I think he realized like we should get some of that information

I mean, yeah, he's essentially going like oh, yeah, yeah, everybody wants that information because he almost said, ah, you can have information on young people. I don't give a shit. And then he was like, yeah, you're right. We want half Jesus Christ. During this conversation, uh, the tick talk, uh, I do appreciate, again, I do appreciate the insanity of people being like, okay, so your point to me is that China can't have TikTok because they'll spy on us. So your second point is you should both have TikTok. Well because do you think that's to not spy? Do you guys think you cancel each other out so neither of you spy on me or are both of

you just fucking spying on me? Trump's like we could police it a little bit. What? You fucking lunatics. So during this conversation, the executive order about the TikTok sale, he has signed it. Okay. And so someone asks him, what did you just sign? No idea.

He has no idea. No clue. What did your TikTok order do, Mr. President? Just gave me the right to sell it or close it. Essentially with TikTok, I have the right to either sell it or close it Essentially with tick-tock. I have the right to either sell it or close it and We'll make that determination and we may have to get an approval from China, too. I'm not sure but I'm sure they'll approve it and If they don't approve it, it would be somewhat of a hostile act. I think but it's good for China if it gets approved hostile act, I think. But it's good for China if it gets approved.

The Press. But you're not guaranteeing that Hiccup will be around after 90 days of test? No, but it could very well be. It makes sense for it to be because it's got tremendous value. But if we create the value by approving, you know, in other words, that approval gives a tremendous value.

If that's the case, then we should be entitled to 50% as a country, you know what I'm saying? You haven't heard that one before, right? That's called the joint venture. I've heard of that one before. You know, you got a lot of value when you got your legs not broken. Wow, just wow.

We want to preserve the value of you not having your legs broken. So I think that I need 50%. I think we probably fucked up when we allowed the mafia to talk on TV. That was probably where we fucked up. I Found this to be shocking. That's wild. Yep, Jesus. So throughout this also the subject of North Korea comes up and Sure jumps like I like like that guy, you know, everyone said he was gonna be bad like, I like that guy.

You know, everyone said he was gonna be bad, but I like that guy. He's got a lot of coastline, a lot of beachfront property. I haven't heard him threaten us with nuclear weapons for a while. Maybe this is a good strategy. He's got a lot of condo potential. That's true.

A lot of resorts could be built in North Korea. You know what? Here's a guaranteed profit. Build a Trump resort in North Korea. You know what? Here's a guaranteed profit. Build a Trump resort in North Korea. People are forced to go there. Done and done. Hey. Instant and consistent profit. So that I thought was kind of weird, but I didn't pull that clip. But I wanted to bring it up because the subject of Gaza comes up. Yeah. Someone asks Trump about... I bet it's gonna go great. Nope. Oh it doesn't? But it does also seem to be that Trump thinks that you could

build a lot of great resorts there. Hey what are you gonna do? How confident are you Mr. President that you can keep the ceasefire in Gaza and conclude the three phases of this deal? I'm not confident. This is not our war, it's their war. but I'm not confident, but I think they're very weakened on the other side. Gaza, where I looked at a picture of Gaza, Gaza is like a massive demolition site. That place is, it's really, it's gotta be rebuilt in a different way. Are you going to help rebuilding Gaza? I might. You know, Gaza's interesting. It's like an app location on the sea. Oh, best weather. You know, everything's good. It's like some beautiful things could be done with it.

But it's like it was made for me. But some fantastic things could be done with Gaza. How do you see the future in governance for Gaza? Well, it depends. I can't imagine. You could have... Well, you certainly can't have the people that were there. Most of them are dead, by the way, right? Most of them are dead. But they didn't exactly run it well.

They run viciously and badly. So you can't have that. Yikes. Alright. So I can't have that. Yikes. Alright. So I think he doesn't give a shit. I like that he's honest. I guess. I appreciate that.

I appreciate that. Because in this regard, you know what? He didn't flatten it. Well, I guess he was out of office. Right. It was somebody else's fault entirely. Right. I think it would be delusional to imagine that it wouldn't have been the same or worse had he been in office.

But still, there's a real shittiness to dealing with the people in North Korea who are suffering under Kim Jong-un as like, oh, a lot of you know resort potential sure and then being sort of like oh yeah we can rebuild up in Gaza there's a lot of coastline great weather it's just it's it's very it's very strange yeah that's that's no fun thinks a bit like a guy who I remember Jimmy Carter being like, Ugh, I wish, I wish on a star that I could keep this peanut farm making me no money. I wish, but alas, my ethics require me to divest myself.

Lest I abuse the office of president for my own gain. You know, but what we don't talk about, we talk a lot about Jimmy Carter selling his peanut farm, but we don't talk about how he launched a peanut coin. That is true. That one, I don't think he can live down. He did. There was the gas crisis and then the peanut coin was a real giveaway. Yeah.

He started his own peanut based currency that like was untraceable. Yeah. They put, they stamped George Washington Carver on each peanut and then his wife launched a peanut coin Wow That was a different weird. It was a different peanut coin. They were they were cashew coin It was a completely different coin. I mean it was still a nut. I Don't know man. Well, I mean tree nuts are actually Wait, I have no idea what We are a million miles past acceptable you know in terms of

handling of Gaza and also just in terms of the way that it's so clear that the way Trump's brain is Like thinking about and discussing world events is how he can make a profit off them Yeah, it's really fucked up and kind of disgusting but I Mean, it's the second time he's president You everybody chose this I Totally agree with you that There's no reason to be surprised. Yeah, surprise is not the reaction here.

But it is still fucked up. Yeah, that's true. So they ask Trump about the past presidents and has he talked to some of them. And he starts talking nice about Bill Clinton. Of course. And so I think Chase realizes, I gotta cut this off. Yeah, smart. President Trump, you've seen the other living presidents.

We were both on this flight run by Epstein. It was a great flight. It was the other living president. We were both on this flight run by Epstein. It was a great flight. It was the most beautiful flight. For advice about agents going on here, which one did you call? It's an interesting one. I thought Bill Clinton was a very good politician.

I don't think he was used properly. I think they disrespected him. When Hillary was running, he came back and he said, you know, you better get up to Michigan and Wisconsin. You remember that Peter. Every house has a Trump sign on it. And they all laughed at him because the rep... I'm not going to lie.

Switching to Mint Mobile was a life-changing... All right. So Donald Trump is continuing to sign executive order after executive order, thrashing back at questions from the press in the Oval Office. That didn't look like thrashing back. That looked like him saying something nice about Bill Clinton and then we got a Mint Mobile ad pop up and then you cut away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Huh. Weird. Very strange. He goes back to it not too long after.

What's the feed from? I don't know. I mean, because if it's from Fox News, did they cut away to a Mint Mobile ad? I have no idea. I bet it's like a rumble channel. That's probably true. Yeah, that's a good point I have more ads that I don't know if mint mobile would advertise them I must be on YouTube because I think that would make sense the ads that run on rumble are all like so obviously Scam yeah, yeah, yeah transparently fake companies. Don't even buy gold. Yeah, we'll give you money if you give us more money. Yeah Yeah, here's a gel that makes you lose weight if you put it in your ears

Shit no way. Oh Doctors don't want you to know about that one. Also America and China just want to call own tick-tock. There's no problem there What are we doing? So chase finishes up his shift. Alex comes back. And by this point, word has spread that Trump is going to pardon the January 6th protesters and rioters and everybody across the board. And so, I mean, that's a fucking great occasion to have a January 6th pardon II that is the show is true. I you'll never be able to guess which one Well, we already interviewed him last week Wait, what? And he's the owner of big league that just so happens to run the Alex Hill store calm

And he's a great dad and a father and husband Nate Hughes and we've shown you the footage. We've shown you Hughes. And we've shown you the footage. We've shown you the trial. We've shown you the documents. They're crushing a bunch of people up against the tunnel. They kill a woman right in front of him. He does nothing but in a huge crowd, reach out with his arms, trying to hold himself up and hope touches a police shield. Don't put him in jail for three years into sentencing. So Nate, Trump is delivering here.

The full names haven't been released because there's thousands, but they put the supposed worst devils up top who we know from following the trials, no evidence of seditious conspiracy, no nothing. So undoubtedly your name is going to be on there and if you get missed they'll be added. But how does this feel right now as a father of a young baby? Like I've been in tears on and off all day, right? Just hoping that okay is he going to pardon some people is going to be all, um, Alex I'm like over the moon. So I'm sure this doesn't need to be said but Alex is 100% lying about the video of Nate Hughes from January 6th He's very clearly lunging at and trying to steal a cop's riot shield

Which is what causes him to lose his balance. It wasn't the other way around Wow. Also he pled guilty to those charges Yeah, dip shit. Yeah, but you know the the law stitches you up and makes you plead guilty So you don't get longer sentence It makes sense sure you got a but 98 percent of cases don't go to trial or something like that I think that this is like the pardoning of everybody for this is incredibly fucked up I think it sends a message that is beyond Uncautionable, but I'm not super positive that someone like Nate Hughes going to prison for two years is necessarily needed.

I understand that it was the sentence that was passed down after he pleaded guilty. I'm not in favor of people going to jail generally. I think the hard part about that is if you think about it as like a rehabilitation situation, there's really nothing to rehabilitate because they're not like as long as there's no democratic president, they're not going to riot again. Probably isn't a J six if you've got a dictator. Yeah. And I mean, if you want to stretch out rehabilitation to your broadest fucking thing possible sure he has now found a place for himself Taking a cut from Alex's online store perfect in order to get around the fact that Alex can't own the company

So he's kind of in a position where he could be a productive in In a situation that maybe you don't want to be the case. This man is a pillar of society in his community. Probably not going to commit crimes. Why would he? But then in terms of, you know, rehabilitation, in terms of recognizing what you did and how it was wrong, there's no hope that two years in prison is going to do that. No, it wasn't wrong. Yeah. Yeah. From their point of view. Yeah. So I think that it would have been senseless and kind of...

It would be a waste of everybody's time and resources to keep them in jail for a crime that they don't think is a crime. They would consider themselves political prisoners. So yeah. So on the level of this guy, I don't know if I have that big of a problem with a pardon. I think that the act of pardoning them though is wrong. I think the end result of him not having to go to jail, I don't really care about. Like Jake Johnson's gonna get a pardon.

I don't really care if he went to jail or not. Good for him. Good for him. He's not getting back on Bob's Burgers. I don't think he's getting back on Bob's Burgers. I think that when you get further out though and you have people like Stuart Rhodes and people like Enrique Tario That I think is really fucked up the idea that they you know, they did very Actively plan sure things that they did sure and they are being pardoned. I think that that's their danger

Not having any Democratic president, I don't think diminishes the amount of danger that they pose to people. If anything, it only increases it. I do think so. Yeah. Because the whole reason, the whole thought around January 6th for Stuart Rhodes was that at some point Trump is going to call us up as the rightful militia and we will be empowered by the force of the state.

I don't know why he wouldn't think that even more now Yeah, I mean that is a consequence of Trump winning. Yeah, it sucks. Yep, and it's it's very dark. Mm-hmm But hey, they're not on until later. What not on this episode Oh God in the next days We are going to be talking about torio and Stuart Rhodes coming on to Alex's show great But as far as this episode goes, it is just his Alex Jones store guy. Great. And so they talk a bit about how great Elon Musk is. Great. Because he is awesome. Notably, earlier in the day, Elon Musk did that Nazi salute thing that might have been a Nazi salute,

or maybe not. And then he did it again. Sure. Sure. That is not mentioned when the topic of how Elon Musk saved free speech comes. Funny. Funny how that goes. Yeah. Weird because that is a great example of free speech in action. It could have used that as a perfect example. It would have been a good example. Yeah. Elon saved free speech when he spent the billions on X, right? He saved it. And I feel like he just saved the election with what he did because it gave everyone a voice. It gave you a voice. It gave, you know, hundreds of other people that were, you know, silenced by big tech and gave him a voice again. And I really think that pushed us over the top. Well, Trump understands. They set him up that day. They set me up. I was supposed to lead the crowd there. Even, even before Trump was done speaking and I was supposed to lead the crowd

to hundreds of thousands already gone there. They already started the provocateur stuff with the Ray Epps and all of them. That's all been confirmed. The feds lied about it and been caught. And so for me, it's very personal. You were there too. Um, they put Owen in prison and yeah, a lie went halfway around the world before the truth put its pants on, but in the end, the truth won, as Mark Twain said.

And Mark Twain also said- I'm sorry? Patriots are a scarce man, hated, feared, and scorned, but in time when his cause succeeds, then it costs nothing to be a patriot. Because, you know, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. I messed that quote up.

Yes. In the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man, hated, feared, and scorned. Yes. In the beginning, a patriot is scarce man hated and feared and scorned. Yes, that's it. Who? What was that original quote? It was by I can't remember who it was, but it was a sunshine patriot quote. Like everyone wants to be a patriot when you win, when it's cool, when it's fun. But when the going gets tough, you really see who the real patriot is. Right. And George Washington his letters talked about the sunshine patriot, the Winter Soldier.

And then it got expanded on from there by other poets and people. But yeah, it's... So Mark Twain didn't include the part about the truth winning against the lie once it's taken the time to get its pants or boots on. 100% did not believe that the truth had a shot to win against the lie. I think Alex is combining Twain's quote with

the story of the tortoise and the hare. If I had to guess. He's up tables. We're right back to the beginning. Also, the sunshine Patriots thing isn't from Washington's letters. Sure. It's from Thomas Payne's the American crisis, which starts quote there. These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine Patriot will in this crisis, shirk from service of their country. The term Winter Soldier actually didn't come into fashion until the 1970s as the result of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, who sponsored a hearing called the Winter Soldier Investigation. The hearing was meant to highlight war crimes carried out by soldiers in Vietnam and how the culpability for those crimes lay with the military hierarchy and their policies.

It wasn't the result of a couple of bad people doing bad things. They were arguing that it was the product of a corrupt system. John Kerry testified at the hearing and he described how they'd come up with the term Winter Soldier as a play on Thomas Paine's term Summer Soldier. He said, quote, we call this investigation the winter soldier, soldier investigation. The term winter soldier is a play on the words of Thomas Paine in 1776, when he spoke of the sunshine patriot and the summertime soldiers who desert deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough. We who have come here to Washington have come because we feel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country. We

could be quiet. We could hold our silence, we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, not reds, not the redcoats, but the crimes which we were committing that threaten it, we have to speak out. Alex has literally no idea what he's talking about. He just confidently makes shit up like, oh, it's Washington's letters. He just makes that shit up all the time and he says it confidently enough that everyone just lets him get away with it. Yep. Also, that's a falsely attributed Mark Twain line. In 1710, Jonathan Swift, the guy who Alex

knows a whole bunch about because of satire and eating his neighbors, he wrote, quote, falsehood flies and the truth comes limping after it. The expression was repeated in various forms for about 200 years until it was attributed to Mark Twain in 1919, years after he had died. Sure. So all of it's fake. This is all just fake bullshit.

Sounds right. Yeah. Sounds right. I think maybe putting letters on a picture led to the downfall of our country. Memes? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think Success Kid or whatever it was, he was the first one where you're like, oh, that

must be a direct quote from Success Baby or whatever it is. And then you just believe it. Next thing you know, you've got Success Thomas Jefferson with all kinds of bullshit on there It's a slippery slope Dan. Yeah, and I guess quote books and Like right-wing newsletters were kind of progenitors of that Yeah, because they operated kind of the same way just just the idea of like oh man We should have quotes from people is like well. That's a bad idea sure. It's a bad idea to have quotes I think quotes are great sure when understood as this is just a person saying It's just some asshole. Yeah, it's just an asshole talking. Yeah, this is shit talking

Yeah, this is poetic shit talking and they may have said it or they may not have who knows who cares So I realized as this was going on now that this was kind of just an infomercial for Alex Jones's Alex Jones store Wow, it's the night of the inauguration. You're a really cynical guy. Did you know that? You know what? I am. You're a cynical guy. A thousand episodes of this dumb shit will do that to you. I'm starting to think you're a cynical guy. We are in major court battles with the bad guys. We're turning the tide because the rain is waiting here, but we need support. Stay on air at the AlexJonesStore.com right now. Limited edition. Trump inaugural coins almost sold out. Incredible supplements,

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the Alex Jones tour.com is where you support Alex Jones is how you support the info war and Most not affiliated with Alex Jones or info wars, you know A lot of these creators they're able to to run paid media on these other platforms and promote themselves. Alex, you've been banned from the majority of these platforms, right? X is your only kind of outlet, right? That and Infowars.com. So people need to understand that they need to support you at the AlexJonesStore.com. Yeah. So I mean, I'm glad that this guy got his his pardon and stuff But in terms in terms of substance this seems like a sort of lazy excuse to have your main sponsor on the show and do Do a lot a bit of a segment

Just extolling how the only thing you need to do in the information war is get Alex money through this shell that he technically Doesn't own yeah legal reasons. Yeah, I will say that it seems like the people that are involved in Alex's sphere now, most of them, we've reached the majority point of having received pardons from Trump. Before, it used to be just like, oh, Stone, you're like, oh well Stone did all that illegal shit, and of course he got pardoned. No big deal. We all knew that

was going to happen. Now it's like half the guys Alex knows. Well maybe. So, well yeah. I mean, I don't know how many January 6th folks he knows. So I think there's probably a ton, and so you're probably right on that count. But I want to touch specifically on the Owen Schreuer of it all. Sure. I don't know if Trump can pardon that. Oh, that's a good question. Is that like a DC relic? No, the well, the Senate has control over DC, right? Well, something like that. No, because I don't think that he was actually charged with anything related to the January 6th. Oh, right, right, right.

He didn't do his community service. Because Trump didn't really bother pardoning individuals. He just went, everybody who is related to J6, get the fuck out of here. I think so. Yeah, that makes sense. I even wonder if he has the ability to get Owen off the hook for not doing his community service.

He'd have to really specially focus in on that, I think, in order to, and Owen's already done his time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder, I think, less about the physical or like legalistic or bureaucratic logistical hurdles that Trump might face, because the greater one is not giving a shit about Owen Troyer.

I want a copy of Owen Troyer's prison letters. I bet there's some real good insights. Letters from a Birmingham jail? You've got your sequel. So anyway, the two of them wrap up their sales pitches and what have you and they go out in style. Alex, thanks for having me on. Thanks for being such an advocate for all the political prisoners for all the J sixers and not all of them. Just thank you to everyone out there

that had our backs through thick and thin. Well, brother, we're all in this together. They try to put me in prison for this. I mean, we're standing up for each other. Like Benjamin Franklin said, we're going to hang together, hang separate. Nate Hughes, thank you. Yep. Thanks, Alex. See you later. That's a misattributed quote Yeah, Benjamin Franklin didn't say that actually predates him as a Flemish proverb So Alex also is attributing more bad quotes People just really like to attribute quotes to people that they think were good in the past Mm-hmm never really learned about the people though. Well, it's really simple with Benjamin Franklin, especially him and Mark Twain are those ones

that you could just attribute anything to it because they said a bunch of pithy shit. Yeah, they did. And they're there. Anytime you go see anybody who's like interested in them, they attribute all kinds of shit to them too. You know, like you go to a Ben Franklin museum or whatever. Those tour guides are like anything any this but so it doesn't matter we'll say anything about like Benjamin Franklin in particular like he did end up saying a lot of shit like he had an albinoch and all that sure all these a kid these aphorisms and he was an old lady and it makes me wonder is he a hack like did he just frankly you're a bunch of things yeah things that were like kind of great turns of phrase and

then he wrote them all down and then everyone just remembers all this stuff. Well, I mean, theoretically, or from stuff that I've read, Churchill did that. That was his kind of vibe. He had a bad memory for speaking and he wasn't very good extemporaneously so he would write down pithy quotes from other people and then use them in his, you know. So daily life. So he is kind of Robin Williams. Very much so.

Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if like Mark Twain, Churchill, Benjamin Franklin, they were all just the people who did street jokes. You know? And they just got remembered. I don't think you're wrong. And I'll tell you this, just from our history as comedians, in my experience, oftentimes

the pithiest, the ones most clever, the ones most capable, not getting laid. Not getting laid at all. Ben Franklin, getting laid. Yeah, he was doing some business. So I don't think he wrote it. Yeah, you're right. I think that's the way to go. So we come to the end of this,

Alex's evening on the 20th. And there's a little bit of a pretty shallow coverage of the January 6th pardons. There's pretty shallow coverage of the executive voters because I think that they don't really know what a lot of them are. There's Trump saying, ooh, this is about TikTok and then signing things. But there's no analysis outside of Chase being wrong about stuff. And then Alex doing an interview with his January 6th Guy yeah friend who runs his his company for him. Yeah, so I There's also no discussion of musks

salute and So we're gonna come back with another episode. Yeah and get into the Subsequent days sure and see see how if Alex Subsequent days sure and see see how if Alex How we handle the aftermath the fallout if you will of what amounts to a giant nuclear bomb hitting America We hear we have seen the coverage of it happening Yep, and then the realization of some of the details sure perhaps will play out in subsequent days It's gonna be great have Joe Biggs and Enrique Tario right to it roads cool all of them making some fun appearances Undoubtedly awesome, but for now we

Be to do how are you feeling? You know they say be bored, you know the old saying it's super great to be born in interesting times You should love being born in interesting times. You should love being born in interesting times. Interesting times are great. Franklin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it helps to know that when that was originally said, they didn't have indoor plumbing. So it's a lot easier to be in interesting times these days. Sure. I'll say that. But I bet that someone, you know, whoever

first said that, probably wasn't living in interesting times these days. Sure. I'll say that. But I bet that someone, you know, whoever first said that probably wasn't living in interesting times. Oh, I'm pretty sure that, I believe it was a Chinese proverb during a time of horrifying conquest of the entire land. But those times would be interesting. They would have been very interesting to see a Xi Huang D walking up to your door. Not a good day Probably not. Yeah, I think that people who generally say, you know, may you live in interesting times? They're they're generally I think you you hear it a lot more it from people who like the not interesting times

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're enjoying that more more interested in the boring sure Like when nothing's really going on and you're just kind of hanging out everybody's going out to the porch Yeah, there's a swing set. I think that what we're experiencing right now What we're looking at is a little bit too interesting, you know It's it is I think there's an awareness that like a history is not this isn't gonna be good I mean, you know in the future there's a Futurama bit very first episode not first episode but first season first season where this is from when or it might not have been the first season now I'm now I'm misattributing it to all to this is a quote by Ben Franklin sure but there is

all these monuments from when New York City had a supervillain as mayor and I feel like we've that was that was shooting too low we got a supervillain as president yeah and I really think that okay I think we're gonna have the real Eiffel Tower here pretty soon here's here's what I'm saying okay we've gotten to the point where Tucker has been attacked by a demon. Sure. Alex has prophetic dreams. Yeah. Trump needs to have telekinesis.

We have to have an actual supervillain. That would be nice. Like we need a superpower that he has that isn't like, oh my God, he can eat McDonald's at age 80 and not die. Maybe he has the power to alter minds. You know, maybe he has some sort of a Professor X kind of power. And that's how we got where we got. He has the ability to enthrall shitheads.

I mean, what else could explain anything that Chase is saying? Profit motives. Nah, there's definitely that. Yeah, I think it might be a lot simpler than that. Maybe Xavier didn't have any psychic powers at all He was just really good to getting those mutant dough. You know what I'm saying get come to my school. It's a great school It's the best school. We've got the professor X has a meme coin That could explain it that would explain it. Yeah, so we will learn more on our next episode which may

See when it happens, we'll see when it happens. We'll see. But until then, we have a website. Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor. Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo! And now, here comes the sex robot.

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