Knowledge Fight - #1002: January 21, 2025
Episode Date: January 29, 2025In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in on the day after the inauguration to see if Alex has any thoughts about Elon Musk's interesting gesture choices, and figure out which seditious conspirator... he interviews first.
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We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of slain and talk a little
Bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan. Jordan quick question. What's up?
What's your bright spot today buddy? My bright spot is two pronged. Two pronged. First
we forgot to do this on the thousandth episode because
The this person sent something very nice like a month ago or so
Yeah, and so it was a little bit in advance of the thousandth episode, we kind of forgot.
Yeah.
But thank you so much to Greg
for sending a cameo of Alex Horne
congratulating us on the thousandth episode.
Yeah, it was really cool,
but we didn't want to bring it up
because it was for the thousandth episode,
but we hadn't done the thousandth episode yet.
And by the time we did the thousandth episode,
I had forgotten to look up his name.
Totally.
And I felt really bad.
Thanking without a name. Brutal. So thank you so much, that was very nice. That was amazing. By the time we did the thousandth episode, I had forgotten to look up his name and I felt really bad.
Thanking without a name.
Brutal.
So thank you so much.
That was very nice.
Yes.
That was amazing.
Second, checked out our friend, Lisa Trager's new special, Night Owl, on Netflix.
Night Owl.
Very good.
Very funny.
So good.
She's very, very funny.
She's the best.
So I enjoyed that.
And she was on TV talking shit about Bernie Sanders.
How fun was that? She was on a whole commercial. Yep
Great great comedy special. Yeah, I recommend it highly. Yep. How about you? What's your rights? My bright spot is control
I've been playing the video game control right I started you off on Alan Wake. Yeah, you started me on the Alan wake a sphere
We two ships passing in the night you started with with Alan Wake 2 and I foolishly began at
the beginning.
But now I'm starting to play Control.
And very fun.
You know what?
You can grab things with your mind and then throw them, obviously.
Telekinesis.
The physics of it are so satisfying.
There's something, you know, like, because you've played Jedi games or things,
things where you have telekinesis in the past.
There's something about the way these things hit stuff,
the way that it flies through the air,
just the way that you can kind of feel the impact.
I wonder if that would be more fun, like, on the Switch,
because you could have the Joy-Cons,
or the little controllers that you actually move around
to throw things. Right, that you actually move around. Right.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
I think, I think the part of the problem with there would just be sheer like the graphics
on the regular Switch.
The pre-Switch 2 is what I'm calling it now.
Oh my.
That's a, why, why even have it?
Graphics aren't that bad.
They're not that bad, but they're not, they're not like, it's not the strongest of devices.
What about we get you into a VR situation?
What about if we get me into a VR situation with this telekinesis?
It'd be pretty because you have the little hand things. It'd be very fun. Yeah, there's a there's some fun things on VR
I've tried it mm-hmm. I try I tried a little bit and it made me feel a little bit nauseous
Yeah, so I've not explored very far. I used I
Dancing that's what I use a aerobic dance. That's what I use it for. Okay. Yeah VR aerobic dance
That's what I use it for. I gotta say I gotta stay in shape
Do you do the dancing and in the VR headset you just see like the Olympics like as if you're on the mat?
That would be fun the experience of being down there
on the mat. That would be fun. The experience of being down there. Of being somebody from Australia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's about as good as I am. As a ray gun. Is that
the joke you're making? Oh boy. Making a ray gun. How about that? Why not? It's past due
date. It's 2025. No more of that. Well, I'm glad you're enjoying the game. Yes. Thank
you. So today, Jordan, we have an episode to go over, a little sneaky snake episode.
We're going to be talking about January 21st, the day after the inauguration.
Okay.
All right.
Now at this point, obviously, everyone was buzzed about Elon doing a Nazi salute at Trump's
inauguration rally.
Right.
Right.
And various other things like all of the executive orders that Trump put through on the first day in office.
Yeah. So let's tune in to see how Alex responds. I bet well. So good.
And we'll get to that real quick after we say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea.
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So we start here on the 21st.
And Alex is reflecting on what Trump did on inauguration day.
And what the most important piece of this puzzle has been.
I would like to know that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have to say that I rarely have trouble saying which action is the best of a group of good
things.
But today, it's important to ask what is the most important thing he's doing.
Well, in general, it's getting our morale up and then bringing tangible real things
to the morale being up that will actually then have that successfully relaunch the civilization.
But there's so much getting out of the global carbon tax world government regime the heart of the new world order pulling out of the WHO the J6 complete pardons I mean this is
amazing so Trump did a lot of shit on inauguration day and pretty much all of
it sucks and is either counterproductive or designed to hurt people Alex has a
couple of those examples that he throws out but I think it's notable that the
most important thing he did seems to be make Alex feel good.
All of this stuff that Trump is doing is bad, and it offers no path forward in terms of
the problems that exist in the real world.
Climate change is still going to be a huge problem, regardless of whether or not we're
signed onto the Paris Accords.
Public health emergencies and pandemics will still be a threat we face if we're part of
the WHO or not.
What Trump achieves by leaving these agreements is not actually part of solving or facing
these problems, it's an act of cowardice, or of wanting to pretend that these threats
aren't real.
When we leave the WHO, we don't become more able to sway public health policy and make
the world a healthier place, we just give up our seat at the table at the body where
the world collaborates on addressing those issues.
None of this stuff stalls anything, but it does make people like Alex feel good.
So in a way, I think that Alex has actually nailed it when he says that that's
the most important thing that Trump did on day one.
He pandered to the base and gave them the catharsis they needed in order to not
give up on the fantasy that he really has their interests in mind.
He gave them just enough to make it so like we don't have to cut bait here. And that's pretty important.
Yep. Yep.
The most consequential thing that he did would probably be something, one of
those other ones. It's nice to watch them put out all these executive
orders and have nobody stop them or have any consequences for it at all well the courts are intervening in some of
The cases and we'll see you know what that process leads to but you know
There's a challenge to the executive order getting rid of birthright citizenship sure for one
Probably go all the way to the Supreme Court the freeze on government spending is also being challenged sure that bet
That'll probably go all the way to the Supreme Court. The freeze on government spending is also being challenged. Sure, I bet that'll probably go all the way
to the Supreme Court.
I understand what you're saying,
but it is not right to say that nothing is being done.
Sure.
You can have a nihilistic perspective
on whether or not this process will lead to a good outcome.
But people are responding.
There you go.
No?
I wish them the best of luck.
I'm sure that they're going to get it this time.
I bet they got it.
Sure.
I bet they've got this one.
If I believe harder, maybe that's what I got to do.
Okay.
All right.
So the enemy that Alex has, they are not like a political thing, right?
They're a depopulation scam that is being run by the devil.
Right.
And so he talks about...
I assume we haven't killed the devil.
The woke mind virus dead.
The devil is still around.
Also the woke mind virus maybe...we need to be scared of it later.
Oh, okay.
Well, fair enough.
For now it's not a problem.
We have the devil still up and around, but he's greatly weakened. Old scratch. Yeah. You're not going to beat old scratch with
an election. No, no. So anyway, they're all trying to depopulate the world. Bunch of scientists,
what? Six, seven years ago, thousands of assigned a big letter astrophysicist, you name it,
that the sun drives 99
plus percent of our climate.
Of course it does. Maybe below
zero that wasn't there. And
the U. N put out a declaration
saying the sun has no effect on
climate. You look that up. UN
issues declaration that the sun
has no effect on climate. I
mean, it's like saying we have
a declaration that oxygen is the the the world. You're going to destroy the world. You're going to destroy the civilization
weapons system. Everything you
push is to sabotage this.
You're in a death cult. Paul
early early would go on TV in
the seventies, eighties and
nineties. He's the grand poob
off at all the Club of Rome and
say we're gonna have only
images of men is bad in TV.
We're gonna destroy the family.
We're gonna cut off the
resource where you're so poor.
You can't afford to have kids
and we're gonna dumb people down to the more easily manageable and that's what we do because I'm a liberal and that's how we want
to sabotage civilization because humans are bad for the earth and they would have the liberal talk show host clap and agree a
bunch of
Self-appointed monsters. I love the idea that Alex is like next Neil deGrasse Tyson is gonna tell you that leprechauns are real now
Demons walk among us obvious and I see them and no one else can.
Yeah, my fictional characters are real. This guy's fictional characters are bullshit.
Cool, man.
So Alex wants his audience to treat the other side as if all of their points are secretly
about launching this demonic population depopulation agenda because he knows that's really his
only chance of winning an argument. If you, by default, assume that anyone you disagree with is secretly just trying to advance
the devil's grand schemes, you probably won't take any time to consider the veracity of
the information they're presenting.
It's just a shortcut to disproving things without disproving anything.
I think our show would be pretty useless if on episode one I just said, Alex claims this
thing but I don't care about that claim because he's a racist. If I'd had that approach my criticisms would not truly be based on how the things
he's saying are bullshit. They would be attacking the messenger and I've tried not to fall into
that being the core of what I do. I attack the messenger plenty now because he's a dipshit
but I try very hard not to say this point is stupid because Alex is the person saying
it. He's stupid and needs a
liar, but that doesn't mean that everything he says is a dumb lie, and I tried to take the claims
as they are. Sure. Alex's show is useless as a source of information because he's training the
audience to just assume that anything the enemy is saying is a lie meant to cover up their real
position, which is that they want to depopulate the earth on behalf of the devil. It's cheap, and it's not based on anything.
And then beyond that, you just have him rambling about all these things that aren't true.
When his fantasies intersect with reality, where he's supposed to provide the foundation
for his shit talk, you end up with erroneous claims, like that the UN said the sun has
nothing to do with climate, or this imagined rant that Paul Ehrlich definitely went on
on TV.
I think it's very... It sounded true went on on TV. It's very it sounded true.
Oh yeah, it felt true.
You may notice that Alex's citation for that is so unspecific to the point that
it's meaningless.
Ehrlich apparently said these things on an unnamed TV show at some point in the
70s, 80s or 90s.
That's 30 years of possible TV appearances.
You would have to watch all of them to even be able to assess whether Alex has anything to base this on.
And that's insane.
He needs to be specific, or you should treat this as,
Oh, here's a guy saying something stupid.
Yeah.
Also, I think that Alex is confusing Paul Ehrlich's population bomb
with the Club of Rome's publication limits to growth.
And I think he does that because his grasp on information is bad
and he just assumes everything is the same thing. Yeah put it all in the
same pot. Who cares? Yeah if you're if you're gonna live by the three witches
rules just put it all in the same cauldron swirl it around whatever
happens that's what was supposed to happen. Sure no hey that's fine I'm just
not also gonna pretend that you've studied things then. Sure you know I mean
I understand that you probably don't go to the three witches for like detailed readouts of news if everything
is the same thing all things are interchangeable and you don't have to
read anything because you already know what it's gonna say right fine have fun
yeah I'm going to treat you as a stupid person as opposed to someone who actually
knows the things they're talking about sure Sure. So, there's one thing that Alex is caught on to, you know, on the 21st, and that is that
people are saying some stuff about Nazis.
Sure.
Saying that Trump's a Nazi.
Right. Well, for good reason.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Alex doesn't seem to know a whole lot other than the people are talking some shit.
There's no way to know why people would call him a Nazi.
No. It's not possible. There's no way to know why people would call him a Nazi.
No.
It's not possible.
It's mysterious.
Ignore them.
Because the last power the corporate media has with almost no audience is to attack Trump
and myself and Elon and everybody else that's fighting them and then have us spend our time
responding to the BS they put out.
I saw these headlines everywhere and I
thought I sent it to you guys.
I say don't respond to it, but
when I say respond to it, but
explain it's designed to make
you respond to it. Don't just
respond to the lie. Explain
why they're doing it. So then
people get it. Elon posted
yesterday. I thought I said it
this morning. I posted on my
ex. But you've got all these mainstream corporate media AP, the No, no, you then go address it and explain that that's all they've got left and that
if you actually study them in eugenics and depopulation, they're the ones that are actually
like Hitler.
So I think that Alex is probably trying to talk about how everyone was criticizing Elon
Musk for throwing up two salutes to the audience that looked a lot like Zekiles.
Do you mean the Nazi salutes that he threw up?
But he doesn't even want to say that.
Right. It feels like he's dancing around this without saying
it right and I wonder if that's because what what he's talking about the theme
is that if you bring these things up you're falling into the globalist trap
right so he can't even bring up that Elon Musk was doing Nazi salutes that's
wise I mean what's what's ironic about that is that I do think that is the smartest thing
for him to ignore it.
People are going to forget about it.
Yes.
They don't give a shit.
Totally.
He's a Nazi.
Everybody knows this.
Nobody fucking cares.
For Alex's money, I think it is best just ignore it.
Yeah.
Oh, he.
Oh, yeah.
Just be like, I don't I don't remember that.
And then everybody will not remember.
Yeah.
We like Alex for whatever he's done in his life and whatever importance he thinks he has, no one's
clamoring for comment on this.
I don't really care about arguments about whether or not what Elon did was a Nazi salute
because I think it's kind of a distraction.
People like Elon do this type of shit all the time, and the plausible deniability of
it is what allows them to play these sorts of games.
The joke is in the debating whether he meant to do a Nazi salute, when in the real world
his intentions don't even come close to mattering.
He either meant to do the salute as a little symbol or a troll, or he made a sincere mistake
and he's the stupidest person in the world.
He did two back to back salutes that looked like Nazi salutes at the inauguration of a
president who did a racist rally at Madison Square Garden as a way of mirroring the American
Bund. He did these salutes in the middle of a stretch where he a racist rally at Madison Square Garden as a way of mirroring the American Bund.
He did these salutes in the middle of a stretch where he's making public statements like
only the AFD can save Germany, and talking about how Germany needs to give up on its
guilt from the past.
Very Lindbergian, if you will.
What I'm saying is that this is all meant to speak to a certain group, or Elon's revealing
that he's a public danger due to how dumb and irresponsible he is with public messaging.
And I think the group he might have been trying to message towards heard him.
Folks like Nick Fuentes were pretty pumped, as were the folks in the more Nazi side of
Trump's base.
Sure.
I'm not sure that this is what he was doing, but it would make total sense if Elon did
this gesture to excite the bigot side of Trump's audience.
In the past month or so, they've been pretty mad at him about the H-1B visa stuff and him
not being a hard no on immigration, so if he decided that he would throw the bigots
a bone by doing the salute at the inauguration rally, I think it would be a pretty good move
on his part.
Pretty savvy.
It would neutralize a lot of the heat that he's getting from the extreme end of the
base, and there's literally no risk of him being punished by the more moderate part of the
audience.
Trump doesn't give a shit, so if this is something that Musk planned to do in order
to placate the Nazis, that makes sense.
Or he's showing his Nazi leanings.
Or he's a complete idiot with no awareness of how he's behaving in public and he shouldn't
be allowed to have that kind of platform.
Whatever the case, Alex doesn't seem too worried about it.
Just ignore it, says the tip of the spear.
Don't even engage, says the guy who spent months whining
about how Biden doing a speech at night was Hitlerian.
Calm down.
Yeah, I mean, for my money, it's hard not to think in the context of everything I know about this man,
he is very desperate
for an idiot on the internet to not be mean to him.
Like, so he's willing to go to extreme lengths for everyone that he possibly can get to like
him, to like him.
So I would suggest that doing things, probably look at who likes him afterwards as to the
motive.
And it also seems like Elon has a real interest in shitty people liking him.
Sure does!
He seems to have less of an interest in people who are considerate and thoughtful and, you know, reflective about life.
It does go both ways in that if you are thoughtful and considerate,
one of the easiest ways to find out for sure is if you hate Elon Musk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is a, all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.
It works back and forth.
It's very strange.
Yeah.
So I thought that Alex was being savvy and just sort of ignoring the Musk thing.
Yeah.
But then he keeps talking and I think he didn't know.
I think he was surprised to learn that people were upset that you're on musk sure that yeah
What you gonna do? They're the ones that are actually like Hitler
Yeah, I'll find it that's not it I'll show you
It's Elon reposted or commented on a headline about Hitler.
If you just go to his feed and you scroll through it, it's at Elon Musk's
where you find it.
I mean just type in Trump Hitler and how do it go to Google?
That's okay. No problem. I'd a lot of results for that one
Lot of results Hitler so you know me I'm neurotic. I must show you something about saying
Yeah, Nadler condemns what appears to be a howl Hitler from Musk, okay, this is all they got Elon Musk performs bizarre the So instead there see I was the attacks on Trump, but it's mainly on must too.
So you get the sense from that moment that Alex actually doesn't know what people are talking
about, which seems impossible. Elon throwing up that salute was a major story in the news and on
social media. So I can't imagine that Alex is actually unaware that this was the center of the
story, but maybe he really doesn't know that last headline that Alex reads actually unaware that this was the center of the story, but maybe he really doesn't
know. That last headline that Alex reads was, quote, Trump's inauguration features neo-Nazis
and Hitler salute from top ally. That was about Musk's salute, but also about neo-Nazis who were
invited. This is about a guy named Timothy Hale Cusinelli who got invited for, he got convicted
for his actions storming the Capitol on January 6th.
He's a notable January 6th guy because there are pictures of him online with a Hitler mustache,
and he's an opium Nazi sympathizer and white supremacist.
His co-workers have said that he believes that the problem with Hitler was that he didn't finish the job.
What are you going to do?
Inviting that guy who's spoken at Trump's clubs multiple times in the past year is an interesting choice,
and it looks a little bad when Elon Musk then goes on to do what appears to be two Nazi
salutes.
I guess Alex should follow through with his own advice and just ignore this stuff.
Like the real tip of the spear.
Yep.
It's what they would do.
I would recommend it.
I would recommend it.
But don't you get the sense from listening to that that it feels almost like he's like,
oh wait, this is about Elon?
It does feel like he doesn't understand what people are talking about, which is weird because
I know he's glued to Twitter.
He's got to be.
He's glued to it all the time being like, Oh, 100 million and one views, 100 million
and two views.
Like that's how he gets his, that's how he gets off essentially.
Right?
So he can't not have seen 300 pictures. It seems to me very unlikely. But he also seems to be showing a lack of awareness about
what's going on.
Well, I mean, maybe on the other hand, he's like, why are people complaining? You know?
That's possible too.
How did you not see this coming? You know where we live now, right?
Or why are people complaining? I don't see anything wrong with this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it seems silly to be unhappy about it now.
Yeah.
So Alex is trying to get this headline that he wants to cover about the Nazi stuff.
Sure.
And the crew can't get it.
Can't find it.
Can't find it.
And so Alex gets pretty mad.
This made me feel very uncomfortable so instead there see obviously the attacks
on Trump but it's mainly on must too so that's all that's all they've got.
We pull the must Trump Hitler up though, right?
I just overhead shot actually just show my phone.
No big deal.
We'll just show it on my phone.
We'll do it this way. Overhead
shot, please. You got right
here. I shoot over here. I
shoot right here. There you go.
Neo Nazis love the Nazi like
salute from Elon made it Trump's
inauguration. And I guess
I guess whole Kogan too when he does his muscle pose is Hitler I
Guess when sir was that your choice?
For examples, that's all they got, folks. So, what it actually is, is a Roman salute.
A Roman salute?
That's all Alex has got?
What is he doing?
I mean, hey, you know what? I don't know. I don't know
who I'm more angry at. I don't know if I'm more angry at somebody who is a professional
journalist writing Nazi dash like or somebody saying that it was a Roman slew. I actually
prefer Roman slew. At least that's a bald facedfaced lie instead of a coward. Yeah. You know what I'm not mad at though is whoever's on staff that day. I could feel
the energy of like- Oh, that feels bad.
That sort of abusive parent who you got a tiptoe around, like that felt scary.
Yeah. There was a tension.
Yeah. There's definitely no good coming out of that relationship.
Yeah. So Alex has a headline there about how Nazis were thrilled
with what they experienced as Musk throwing up the Nazi salute. Yeah, that was a headline from
wired. And the reason this is kind of inconvenient for Alex to work into his rant is because there
it's not about the Dems or the globalists calling Trump or Ilan a Nazi. It's about Nazis saying,
Hey, Ilan is doing our thing. The article cites a Nazi meme channel admin from Telegram posting, we are fucking back
in response to Musk's gesture.
A Holocaust denier who works for Turning Point USA said, holy crap, did Elon Musk just hile
Hitler at the Trump inauguration rally in Washington DC?
That's incredible.
We're so back.
Alex is getting mad and frustrated because he didn't actually prepare before going on
air and these headlines don't quite work for what he was imagining that he'd be covering.
It's actually revealing a shocking level of unawareness that he must have had when he
got on air.
Also, by descending into this what about Hulk Hogan and it was a Roman salute type defense,
isn't Alex doing exactly what he said not to do?
Aren't you supposed to just ignore this stuff?
This seems like him not following his own advice because he didn't know what he was talking about.
I'm still stuck on Roman salute.
Yeah.
That's wild.
That is a wild thing.
If that's where you can...
If you can come there direct, you know what I mean?
Like if you're not... because it felt like that came out of nowhere.
Yeah.
Like if you're not snaking through like, oh, this is... it's obviously Nazi salute.
Obviously that's a swastika behind him.
So a swastika, maybe that's an Indian religious symbol.
So ha ha, see I've got you there.
But if you're just like, nah, that's a Roman salute you're crazy I think I think I somewhat agree with you
but I also know enough of like seeing these types of responses over the years
that the Roman salute thing is a pretty knee-jerk just right to it yeah you
train yourself to get there that makes sense because you're you know you're in
Alex's orbit you're in this world you're gonna end up seeing a lot of Nazi salute yes you gotta have a quick you gotta
have it on hand you gotta have it in your back pocket oh that's not a Nazi
salute the thing I've seen several hundred thousand times yeah you have to
you have to be ready and Alex I think is ready that makes sense so with the
premise of this show was gonna be that Alex was gonna take calls but I think
having this Elon Musk's Nazi salute thing thrown into his lap
and him seeming to be unprepared for it has led to him like, I'm not taking calls.
I'm not doing a space. Don't do it.
Fuck it. We got a lot of news to get. Yeah.
Oh, do we? I'm going to do this.
I'm not going to do an expasis now.
I'm not going to take calls now.
Because I've got a lot of material and a lot
of news to cover. And I just got more philosophical and 35,000 foot view here. And there's just
too much news and too much that has to be dealt with. And I need to go over these executive
orders and to go over his congressional policies. I need to go over what the left's planning.
And I need to get into the international news, the military news and the other big ways that they are now coming after Trump and coming after his supporters
and trying to rebrand things that, oh, there wasn't an elite before or there was they cared about you.
But now that Trump and the populist movement is taking over all over the world and a lot of you. You're not the only one that's trying to become the resistance that has cared
about you. But now that Trump
and the populist movement is
taking over all over the world
and a lot of powerful people
are joining us because they
could see which way the winds
blowing. The corporate dying
media is now trying to become
the resistance. And say, Oh,
there is an elite that wants to
enslave you. And it's Donald
Trump and Elon Musk. These
headlines are everywhere.
American oligarchy is
officially here. And then look
who the American oligarchy is.
It's Trump Musk and Zuckerberg.
Zuckerberg capitulated because he knew he'd failed and his globalist bosses had been defeated.
So he's just a follower.
But Musk openly is opposing the actual globalist agenda and helped take Trump over the top
and is the real deal.
And then of course Trump is the real deal.
Real deal.
Real deal.
Nothing Alex says there in any way refutes the argument that Trump is ushering in an
oligarchy.
Yeah.
Alex is just being defensive about how it's kind of undisputable based on the actions
that are being taken.
It's fair enough to have criticisms about the corporate media, but Alex should really
be forced to reflect on what he's saying.
Elon Musk is a billionaire, with international business interests and a ton of reliance on
government subsidies and contracts that he needs in order to stay a billionaire.
In advance of the election, Musk bought Twitter and brought back to the platform a ton of
people who specialized in spreading misinformation and also Nazi stuff.
He fundamentally altered fact-checking processes and moderation practices in a way that favored
people who were aggressive liars.
He created a system where people could make money off tweeting if they got large enough
audiences and engagement, which gave a financial incentive for people to post sensational content,
regardless of whether it was true or not.
Musk created a public information space that was as if it had been intentionally polluted,
so it wouldn't really be of any use for the public. And then he gave Trump millions of dollars for
the election campaign and started doing raffles where people could win a million dollars for
registering to vote, all while he gave speeches about how Trump needed to win or else the world
would end. Alex calls all of this Musk quote putting Trump over the top and that's fair enough.
Elon Musk meddled in the election in a way that he was only able to do because he's a billion Alex calls all of this Musk quote putting Trump over the top and that's fair enough.
Elon Musk meddled in the election in a way that he was only able to do because he's a
billionaire and he only did it because he knew that that's the best way for him to protect
the money was to get Trump into office.
In return for Trump putting him over the top, Musk putting him over the top, he got rewarded
with a fake government efficiency office where he'll use that power to advance his oligarchical interests.
And then he got to speak at the Trump inauguration rally, where he threw up a couple Nazi salutes,
and he's going to face no consequences for it.
I understand that hypocrisy doesn't mean anything, and dipshits like Alex have no concern
for it, but I lay this out to stress exactly what it is that Alex is hand-waving.
If this series of actions took place but involved Biden, Alex would have very serious problems with how a
billionaire was allowed to sway the election so brazenly like this. His
principles mean nothing, so when you see him making arguments that appeal to
things that kind of make sense, it's important to remember that he's just
pretending to care about things that make sense to you in order to exploit
your rationality. And you should not take it seriously. He does not give a shit about any of this.
Yeah. Yeah. It is tough to square, you know, screaming for 30 years about how we're going to get a dictator
and then install a dictator. It's weird to scream for 30 years about how a small group of global elites
have complete control over the population and they want to reduce it while at the same time ushering
in an era of small group of billionaires having complete control over the government and then
using it to, I guess, remove a lot of people from the country.
It does feel weird.
Although I wonder if what we should conclude is that if you yell for 30 years about how your other people are doing something
You are guaranteeing that your people will do that thing
I don't know if it's a guarantee, but yeah, I think that in this case you really see and you're really you're making a compelling argument
Interesting yeah, I think I think that's something that Alex does illustrate
is this kind of career of like this shit talking idiot wrong about stuff making things up all
the time. Entertainment disaster kind of guy. I think that what he pretends to be against is often kind of baked into what he believes.
Yeah.
And I think you're going to see that.
Yeah.
I mean, that classic, that's what I would do.
It's like, well, I think you've explained what you want to do.
Yeah.
To other people.
To other people.
Yeah.
So Musk, he threw up those salutes, but like, it wasn't really a Nazi salute.
It was a Roman salute.
Kind of.
Kind of.
And coming from obscurity to...
That's what he said it was.
Preeminence is not an elitist movement.
It is a grassroots movement of, for, and by the people for a pro- pro expansionist plan instead of the globalist. Post human
plan and that's the fork in the road that Elon Musk was's just insane. And by the way, I didn't properly address the Elon
Musk Nazi salute because it's so ridiculous. I'm going to show you a bunch of videos of
Democrats doing it, everybody else and Hulk Hogan doing it and Arnold Schwarzenegger who is actually was a Nazi but the point is is that again a Nazi salute is if you slam your
hand into your chest and then say how Hitler at the end of it that's a Nazi
salute you have to say how Hitler you gotta so that's a super convenient way for Alex to set the parameters for what can or can't
be called a Hitler salute.
Also a real shitty list of people he stammered together.
He thinks Arnold Schwarzenegger is actually a Nazi, so that example doesn't work.
Hulk Hogan famously was caught on camera saying the N-word a bunch and then talking about
how his adult daughter can't date black dudes.
He came up with two people, one of whom he believes to be a Nazi, and the other is a
publicly known racist who is a speaker at the Trump RNC.
Alex makes a stupid point, but even if he weren't, he made that point poorly.
If you're rebuttal to someone saying that what Musk did looked similar to a Nazi salute
is that other people have done non-Nazi salute gestures that looked similar to what Musk
did, then a full refutation of your argument is just to provide examples of people doing explicit
Nazi salutes that look similar to what Musk did.
There's no value to the evidence Alex is trying to present in terms of making the argument
that he wants to make.
Yeah.
But I guess if you need to say, Hile Hitler for a Nazi salute to be a Nazi salute, then
it wasn't a Nazi salute when Richard Spencer was zekeiling and saying, hail Trump.
I guess the folks at the Unite the Right rally weren't actually doing Nazi salutes because
they were saying things like, Jews will not replace us.
Alex should probably take his own advice and not even respond to this, because his response
has done nothing to make me think that Musk wasn't doing a Nazi salute.
It has, however, made me pretty convinced that Alex is worried that
people might think that Musk was. There's definitely that. So Alex is revealing a little
bit about his thought process. I like this game though. I like this game. How do you know it's a
Nazi salute is a good game to play? Because that would get rid of our shitty headlines. That would
get rid of our arguments. You know, that would get rid of a Nazi like salute because if you just tell me what a Nazi salute is
Then you either ease or isn't that it's like the Supreme Court's pornography man. No, it's not
You know when you see it is not there is a Nazi salute or there is not a Nazi salute
So just let me know which one it is. I'm not listen. I'm not listen. We're not doing Nazi dash like in 2025
Okay, if you do that that's
pathetic and you should be ashamed of yourself I think I probably did at some
trouble in this some trouble trouble so Alex gets to the you know the
information of the of the piece which is the executive orders you know like
obviously he's a policy wonk sure That's why we have that title for people
that you can see, because it's in honor of him.
He gets into the real weeds of stuff.
And so I wanted to hear what he had to say
about these executive orders.
All right, I've got quite a job to do here
in this second hour.
I wanna go through many of the amazing executive actions
of President Trump, over 200 executive orders and executive actions
yesterday
Obviously the pardoning is good. The people are innocent. They were set up
It's meant to frame Trump in America as a bunch of terrorists
It's important to take that
Narrative and destroy it and it's good to just not give a damn what the
left says and stop making decisions according to not being criticized by them or doing things
so you think it makes you look morally superior when you're buying into their lies. That's the net zero plan. They're trying to get the net zero plan to go through. They're
trying into their lives. That's
important. But this to the
economy and the world is
massive. There's different
numbers and actuaries and
studies out there and really
Lord Mocton's excellent
breaking those down on air.
But if they had the net zero
plans actually followed through on. By 2030. Now they've adjusted out 2035 because people aren't going along with it.
They don't ever give up. They just keep moving the gold post. You're talking about billions
of people starving to death. You cut the energy off here. People just get poor. You cut the
energy off the third world. They die. And then the survivors, they die here too. Human Organizers and does that. So Trump issues sweeping pardon
of the J sixers. That's great. But the big news is Trump orders
us exit from the World Health Organization will also be
getting into that.
It really feels like Alex is just winging this, and he hasn't really even looked at
the information he's jumping into covering, all these non-prop pieces of paper on the
desk.
He put off actually talking about the executive orders for the first hour, but now it's time
to strap in, and it's just rambling.
He's manifesting a lot of defensiveness about the January 6th pardons, because there are
some people who say that it would be a good idea to pardon people selectively.
Like go case by case through it and be like, hey, you are just part of the mob, we can
pardon you, but you got to keep some of the more dangerous people who acted violently
with clear premeditation, you got to keep them in jail.
Alex is opposed to that and favors sweeping pardons for everyone because all the people
he likes are the ones who acted violently and with clear premeditation.
But then he starts rambling about cutting off the energy in Lord Monkton, pivoting into
covering an article, but the headline is about Trump taking the US out of the World Health
Organization.
Between this kind of shit and him seemingly being on the back foot about Musk throwing
up that salute, this is a real special level of him seeming to be unprepared for the show.
Yeah, this really seems nuts.
What's Lord Monkton doing? How is Lord Monkton doing? I wouldn't be surprised if for the show. Yeah, this really seems nuts. Yeah.
What's Lord Monkton, how is Lord Monkton doing?
I wouldn't be surprised if he's dead.
I wouldn't either.
I have no idea.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it wouldn't be commemorated,
it wouldn't be memorialized on Infowars.
We already saw him throw Larry Nichols
at six feet under with no problems.
Dang.
Yep.
Man, I don't like feeling more empathy for the characters that died than the the person who cares
Well, it is strange because think about it. How else would you ever know that Lord Monkton is dead?
It's how else would you ever know if Steve Pacenek died?
I'll never know that would ever come up in your life. No rare like
Obscure guy who used to write with Tom Clancy and then turned weird has died.
That obituary would be pretty low. Yeah, but he'd be a good read. Yeah. He's lived an interesting life. Sure. Yeah.
I don't know if obituaries print the legend.
But they should. He should write his own. That's what should really happen. And then it'd be a book. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Book length, though, bit. Yeah. So Alex is like, all right, I read the wrong headline.
Let's actually go ahead and skip ahead to the Paris Accords part of this.
But as I mentioned it, Trump signs order directing US withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement.
And again, that's where Europe, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, the US and Canada get rid of
our fossil fuels and have a bridge to nowhere with supposedly nuclear and wind and solar.
And then we're all supposed to drive electric cars that That are built
in China or Mexico or India.
Or South Korea. And then you
were supposed to charge those
cars up. With wind farm
electricity. And then all the
numbers. It doesn't even give
you 10% of what you need. But windmills up everywhere, it wouldn't do it.
So again, they want to get rid of cars.
They want to get rid of private cars.
They want to post industrial world.
I want to get rid of your gas range stove and everything else.
That's the UN global treaty, agenda 2030.
And but they don't just say, oh, we're going to take your cars.
I mean, they admit that the fine print and you're banning all fossil fuel powered cars. the the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the the and banning the sale of RVs. Seven states passed that last year. BlackRock lobbied for it.
They don't want you and their gouging
the real estate and inflation
to actually be able to survive and live in a mobile home.
Pretty good living, actually.
Things are pretty nice.
And you can move around and stay in different places
and see people and...
Oh, no, sorry, you can't have that it's bad it's about destroying
your lifestyle killing your mobility and locking you down in a 15 minute city.
So including in his executive actions Trump withdrew the US from the Paris Accords which
he did in his first term too a move that was reversed by Biden when he got into office.
Pretty much the entire world is on board with these climate accords, partially because they
aren't very strict.
It sets goals and ambitions, but there's no mechanism to enforce anything, so it's
actually kind of a, it's the least we can do situation.
If you're a climate change denier, it's actually probably in your best interest for the Paris
Accords to be in place, because governments and corporate interests can point to it and
say, we're doing the best we can in response to activists pushing for tighter and more serious climate action.
Alex doesn't know anything about this subject and is just kind of saying whatever comes into his mind.
For instance, this thing about RVs being banned in seven states is just made up.
Claiming that BlackRock wants to ban RVs is something he's crafted out of various memes he's seen and dumb thoughts he's had
and, you know, a way to create a fun story about, you know, BlackRock wants you to not be able
to afford your mortgage so they also don't want you to have RVs.
Yeah.
But because this is fun, Airstream is probably one of the biggest RV manufacturing companies
in the United States.
That company is owned by Thor Industries, Inc., which owns other RV manufacturers as
well.
And their number two institutional holder of stock is Vanguard, followed up by number
three BlackRock.
Very sneaky of them to so heavily invest in a company that makes this product that they're
trying to ban, but that's just how BlackRock operates.
They're crafty.
Yeah, they're smarter than all of us put together, obviously.
They're playing seven dimensional backwards chess, which you can... I like the idea of,
because it's a lot easier to be like, oh, BlackRock wants to ban RVs, because then you
create a fictional building.
You don't go like, oh, there was a meeting where six billionaires got into a room and some dude had a PowerPoint presentation
that was like, aha, fellas, here's how we do it.
No more RVs.
And they all stood up and applauded
because that sounds fucking ridiculous.
You would have to be an idiot to believe
that something like that would happen.
But if you say, oh, BlackRock wants to ban RVs,
well that, oh, maybe they do.
BlackRock's crazy. I think Alex just saw a meme
Yeah, that would all it's behind this. Yeah, I have some great news
Lord Monkton is still alive. Good news 72 years young good news birthday coming up
Well, it's a we celebrate his birthday. I think we should I don't know if anybody else will the other Lords don't seem to like him
As much Lord. He's not really a Lord, but he is a monk
So I was scrolling through his Wikipedia page sure and I don't actually know if this is true
But I hope it is he has like some books that he's published. Okay, right?
So one of them is Anglican orders no and void question mark and then the AIDS report which probably isn't good
And then a bunch of Sudoku books
Which probably isn't good and then a bunch of Sudoku books
He may have published a series of Sudoku puzzles Why can't people focus on what they're good at? Yeah, you know what get rid of this
Hey, buddy, you don't know shit about AIDS if you know Sudoku. You've got a job
I don't got a place in society the will shorts of Sudoku. Absolutely. You've got a man. I don't I don't know if that's true. I didn't look into it
I just saw it on Wikipedia, so well don't hold me to that, but maybe he's a Sudoku guy
Hey, I monk Sudoku turn happy birthday coming up Lord Monkton best of luck to you so
Alex he's talking about the the Paris Accords and stuff and obviously he just wants he just wants, he just wants us to get that coal going.
What's that coal?
Really?
He wants it everywhere.
Beautiful, beautiful coal.
Why?
Because it's clean.
No!
Trump's orders, U.S. withdrawal from Paris climate, revokes Biden climate actions.
And there were a whole bunch of those, as you know.
But I'm hearing from all the Republicans okay we won't close the
remaining coal power plants now turn them back on Trump's plan and he can do it is to cut energy
prices by 50% within one year of being in office you don't just drill baby drill to do that. Yeah, that will cut the cost you dig baby dig
But you need coal to drive down electricity prices to make us competitive with Mexico and
with China and others and you go down to the Mexican-Texas border and
You fly around a helicopter like we've done showing the illegal alien UN
the
And you fly around a helicopter
like we've done
showing the illegal alien UN
migrant bases and you look off
a few miles over the border.
And you just see coal plants
everywhere in factories. And
you see the brown smog because
they don't run scrubbers in
Mexico. They got a turbine that turns in boiled water, hydroelectric, and they just dump black smoke into the air that is very bad.
When you're burning dirty coal, the U.S. has the largest deposits in the world of clean
burning coal and enough to run for
over a thousand years at current rates. It's estimated if you burn the dirty coal, 10,000.
The world, the world, the world will be melted underneath a cloud of 10,000 years at current
rates. And all you got to do is put scrubbers on there and nothing dirty comes up. And I know I harp on this a lot. It's just.
Coal is not a sexy thing. And so, you know, I hear let us all the time. Oh,
I got electric car because it doesn't, you know, use carbon. Yes, it does.
So Trump is withdrawing from the Paris Agreement again, reversing US climate policy.
Coal is not a sexy thing.
I agree.
Alex has no idea what he's talking about.
And I think it shows in clips like that.
Yeah.
Like where he's having to just say words and...
It's a turbine hydroelectric.
What?
What are you talking about?
Scrubbers.
Scrubbers!
So scrubbers and coal power plants are there to remove things from the gases that are emitted
when you burn the coal.
And in terms of sulfur dioxide, they do a pretty good job of that.
You can't get those emissions down to nothing, but you can cut them pretty far down.
And most of them work by spraying something like limestone slurry into the area where
the gas is emitted, where the calcium in the
limestone reacts with the sulfur dioxide to combine into a neutral substance. Fun! This naturally
creates this new issue of sludge removal, but leaving aside all kinds of the into the weeds
kind of discussion, these scrubbers do cut down on sulfur dioxide emissions. Sulfur dioxide is one of
the flue gases that are released during the carbon burning process, and this strategy is alright for that, but the issue is that there's a ton of gases
that get put out, and this technique works differently with each of them.
CO2 is much more complicated to scrub, and the methods we have now are pretty expensive,
and you're left with all these byproducts and the process requires a bit of fuel to
carry out, so it's kind of circular in a lot of ways.
Alex just pretends that a scrubber is a complete solution to the problems that coal-fired plants present.
It's just junior high level understanding of the subject that he's covering. I've made
jokes before about him. Like, I think he thinks that they're just washing coal.
I 100% do.
He's not convincing me that he has a deeper understanding when he talks about I
Believe when he thinks about the scrubbers he sees a cartoon
like
conveyor belt with chunks of black coal and
Mechanical arms with with scrubber brushes scrubbing it off and then as it goes by it is white coal
Well, I swear to God I believe he believes that I I believe it too but I believe it's slightly different.
The image is different in my mind.
Okay.
It's the same thing except instead of arms coming down, the conveyor belt stops and it's
Alex sitting in a bathtub with a little rubber duck in there and he takes the coal and he
scrubs it up.
Okay, I can see that.
And then it gets back on. I'm more in the Tex Avery cartoon world of mechanical hands with white gloves on them.
Sure.
It's one of the two.
It's got to be.
So we got another executive order.
Trump got out of the World Health Organization.
Sure.
Woo.
Good.
And then you've got this.
Trump orders US exit from the World Health Organization, points out they have
inappropriate political influence here in the United States, that they unfairly
majority the money's paid by the United States, and I wish you would have gone
further. I mean it's the criminal group involved with the globalists cooking up
the viruses and pushing the world government and what a Bill Gates is not a happy camper right now.
Trump declares us will draw from the World Health Organization.
Trump wants to pull the US other world organization again. Here's what may happen.
Now they're talking about well, maybe this won't actually get done because he did it his first four years in.
Now they're talking about, well, maybe this won't actually get done because he did it his first four years in.
And look at this article, meet the world's most powerful doctor, Bill Gates.
Remember that?
2017?
Little catch though, he's not a doctor.
He's a eugenicist.
So Alex has clearly identified the irony that the writer was using in that headline, Bill
Gates is not a doctor.
So it's ironic to say that he's the world's most powerful doctor. Proud of Alex reading
at a sixth grade level. It's worth applause.
It's a little wordplay, a little turn of phrase to kind of get to, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's
quite good.
Maybe fifth grade. On the subject of Bill Gates, just before the inauguration, he went
around making nice with Trump. He told the Wall Street Journal about a dinner he had
with Trump, saying, quote, I was about a dinner he had with Trump saying quote
I was frankly impressed with how well he showed a lot of interest in the issues
I brought up. He does a lot of philanthropic work
and there's a large upside to a lot of that stuff and some criticisms too
but he's still part of the mega rich class and his behaviors will
generally tend to follow that.
So I don't know.
generally tend to follow that. So, I don't know.
I wanna know what it feels like from his perspective.
Bill Gates?
Yeah, to be in a room with Trump,
and then to leave that room,
and to have other human beings look at him
in the face with his eyes,
and then for him to go like,
I was impressed with him.
Let me read that quote to you again, actually.
I was frankly impressed with how well he showed a lot of interest in the issues I brought up.
That is almost like saying, I was impressed that he registered.
Right, I could see his eyes and his mouth was moving,
but when I was talking, his mouth wasn't moving.
So that's how I know he was interested.
I was surprised with his ability or willingness to accept that I said things sure no I mean again that
but see that bar that's even dumber that's even dumber for him that how
could you how would that make you feel from the inside pretty empty
pretty fucking stupid like his whole idea is I'm to have a legacy that where I saved people's lives
despite being a billionaire and murdering everybody and doing all this horrible shit.
Instead, he's got to look people in the face and say shit like this.
Yeah, here's me being very nice to the person who's going to work to dismantle a lot of
the work that I've done.
These diseases that were very well eradicated or close to eradicated
through global coordinated effort. Coming back, baby.
Would not be surprised. So getting out of the World Health Organization is just stupid
and it's likely going to lead to increased difficulty handling all kinds of public health
issues. It seems like if the complaint is that the group is too political, you'd want
to stay in it so you can exert your own political will in that arena. The WHO is going to continue to exist
with or without the United States, and now Trump has just removed us from the body where
collaborative decisions happen. It seems like shooting yourself in the foot so you don't
have to spend money on global health issues that affect everyone, but oh well, whatever.
Whatever. So we got another executive order that Alex touches on.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, there's a lot of them.
Yeah.
Trump signed another order.
No more showing up to work one day a month if you're going to collect a paycheck from
the government.
You actually have to show up to work.
President Trump signs an order mandating federal workers show up in person to work.
This is just a no remote.
I've seen different numbers, but on average federal workers show up about two or three
days a month and they say they work from home and they have these devices.
They say they work from home.
They're best sellers, millions of them are sold on Amazon or you're alone and it just
moves your mouse.
It's a little device that's plugged in that you put your mouse on and then it just moves your mouse. So it's a little device that's plugged in
that you put your mouse on
and then it just moves the mouse periodically
around the table.
And that's because a lot of these companies
and the feds will monitor work at home people
to make sure they're working.
And then they've just got it plugged in
to one of those devices.
And I mean, I gotta tell you, they designed the COVID lockdowns to train you for carbon
lockdowns, to train you to work from home.
They admit that.
That's one of the big initiatives of Bill Gates and the UN.
And the work ethic never came back like it was after that.
And that's been seen systemically.
Through Alex, for sure.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. I don't think his work ethic is it.
So if I understand this correctly, this machine is a top seller that makes your mouse move
around a little bit because that is how you get around, like you work from home but you're
not really doing any work.
You're just tricking them because your mouse moves around.
Now if I'm to understand this, what a mouse moving around would do is make it so you don't
go into like screen saver. Yeah, your cursor would move around a little bit. Right, but it's,
what does that do other than make it so you don't go into screen saver? I mean, I imagine if they
have any sort of key tracking software installed on there. You'd see that they're not hitting any
buttons. They're not hitting any buttons, which would be a pretty crucial aspect of the work part.
Oh, also, if there's something that you do, you wouldn't be doing that thing.
No, you wouldn't have.
And so, like, I mean, when I worked at Groupon, you guys shouldn't say this, but I did work
from home sometimes.
Sure.
And I would work less.
I would.
Sure. But there are still things that I
needed to do. Right. You know? And if those things didn't get done, someone would notice.
Right. So I think that these federal employees, some of them probably have things they need to
do that would be noted. You can't just, the government is not just checking in on whether
or not your mouse moves. Right. Right, right, right. No, there's a whole job you have to do.
Yeah.
You do your job.
And if it's a screensaver thing, you could just change the settings on your computer
to not go to screensaver.
Yeah.
So you don't even need to move your mouse.
Yeah.
Like, everything that needs to get done, if you work from home, will get done.
The reason that they want you in the office is to exert more control over you.
Yeah.
And to put the pressure of you might get fired on you all the time.
Yeah. And to and you in your place
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and that's bullshit
If you want to it like nobody would be like oh being in a cubicle
Makes me feel like in the normal human being as opposed to being in my home. Yeah
Let me actually clarify that on the group on trip. I did as much actual work
You know like the number of deals and stuff that I got pushed through were the same as if I had been at the office
But I worked less. Yeah, because I wasn't doing all the extraneous other bullshit that comes along with working in an office you bet
But like I don't know. This is just a sad thing for Alex to be excited
I don't I can't imagine anybody on the side of the worker who's like, man, they really should
force you to go into the office whenever it is exactly as the same.
Especially also someone like Alex who's so big on family values.
And a lot of times people being able to work remotely has a huge impact on their ability
to spend more time with their family.
Or just to afford childcare period. They don't have to. Yeah. Yeah. This is something that is
actually directly counter to what Alex pretends his beliefs are. Yep. But he
talks a little bit more about how these people are. They're all these lazy
people. They're screwing around. Working one day a month. Yeah. And we're going to have to cut
some things on average and we're gonna have to work harder or we're going to have to cut some things on average and we're going to have to work harder
Or we're going to go completely belly up and that's the plan
And so for most people and most jobs
There's a lot of screwing around going on
And people just try to figure out a way to act like they're working. I mean the examples are out there Where you have government? the construction. What's going on?
And people just try to figure
out a way to act like they're
working. I mean, the examples
are out there. Where you have
government construction crews
will take 20 years to build
something when a private
company can do it, too. That's
you and in Texas, they really
privatize most of it now, and
they can build stuff way
quicker than when it was the
Texas Highway Department doing it. And it's just like NASA couldn't. Even build
a Saturn rocket anymore. That's
a verner von Braun design from
the sixties that they put up.
And then here comes Elon and
just more space exploration,
acceleration, innovation and a
decade and all other space
exploration before government or
private because he sets
aggressive goals.
And that's how you get stuff done.
Things either happen really quick or they don't happen at all.
Adam Sondland So two things really quick.
One, if Alex's whole point here is to be like, Elon Musk is not at all like a Nazi at all,
I do think it's a little strange for him to be like,
he's the only person who could continue
Werner von Braun's legacy.
There is that.
That I would work, I'd work on this.
I mean, the thoughts are connected,
whether or not he intends to be.
I'd scrub him a little bit.
Maybe. Before I release him.
Get some robot hands in there.
Yeah. Yeah.
And the second thought is like,
he seems to be saying like,
all these people just fucking screw around. It's too much dicking around at work.
Not like Elon Musk, who's pretends to be level 100 in Path of Exile.
And screws around on Twitter all the goddamn time.
Like that guy is probably a parody of efficiency.
I mean, I don't even know how to like engage with somebody who is willing to take Elon Musk at his word.
You know?
It's kind of funny.
Yeah, I suppose.
It is a little funny.
It's really funny for someone who brands themselves like, I'm skeptical.
It's more funny when it's other rich people who should have known better.
It's less funny whenever it's just people.
That sucks. But Alex is a stupid rich person who should know better. That's true.
So he gets into just reading off all of these executive orders and play a little bit of this,
just because this is the level of shit we're dealing with. You don't learn anything from this.
Now here is a short list because it's so long.
Now here is a short list because it's so long.
Presidential actions Trump signed day one.
Withdrawing the United States from the World Health Organization.
Application of protecting Americans from foreign adversary controlled applications. Tick-tock.
Granting pardons and commutations with sentences for certain offenses related to the events. the United States Capitol January 6th, 2021.
Putting America first in
international environmental
agreements, delivering
emergency price relief for
American families and
devastated and defeating the
cost of living crisis.
Hiring freeze regulatory
freeze pending review.
Return to the United States Capitol January 6th, 2021. and defeating the cost of living crisis.
Hiring freeze, regulatory freeze, pending review.
Return to in-person work, ending the weaponization of the federal government,
restoring freedom of speech and ending federal censorship.
Securing our borders, protecting the meaning and value of American citizenship.
Realigning the United States refugee admissions program.
Unleashing American energy.
Clarifying the military's role in protecting the territorial integrity of the United States.
America first trade policy.
What does any of that mean?
I have no idea.
What do any of those things do?
You have no context or information for what these executive orders are meant to do.
Alex is reading these names that many of them could be considered like, oh, that's kind
of like the Patriot Act, huh?
This name kind of sounds good I guess. I can't I can't imagine taking any name at face value
from any of any government. Elon Musk at face value. Like it doesn't matter and this is
a nonpartisan take it doesn't matter what it is if it sounds nice it's like Obama's
drone strike program was like everybody's gonna be happy forever program you know like
it's not a good thing. I think a lot of times there are names that are given to
things that are a little bit they hide a little bit they're there to hide yeah I
think being skeptical about that is probably good Alex is not diving into
any of this no no some of this he's accidentally already talked about like
the January 6th people and you know that, but what, what does it, what does any of it mean? What does it mean?
I mean, even just hearing like taking care of the cost of living crisis is like, wait,
does that mean lowering it or does that mean like making sure it feels nice about itself?
Giving it a good day, you know, taking, taking the cost of living crisis to a massage parlor.
Right. Putting America first in environmental policy. What does that mean?
What does that mean?
Burning down our national parks.
Probably.
Is that what?
What?
How is that?
Well, we're taking care of things.
So that list goes on longer.
Of course.
And there was one that I just thought like it stuck out a little bit.
Okay.
Protecting the American people against invasion.
The Organization for Economic Cooperation development, global tax deal.
That's going after the OECD is always calling for higher taxes, reversing that.
So Alex has zero idea what this OECD thing, this tax thing is all about.
He's happy to let the audience think that it's about the OECD calling for higher taxes,
which is a bad thing and it needs to be stopped and thank God Trump was there.
Sure.
But what if I were to tell you that this was actually about an OECD plan for global minimum
tax, which would only apply to multinational companies that take in more than 750 million
euros a year?
What if I were to tell you that this was just about making a rule that such companies would
be subject to a 15% minimum effective tax rate, which has the effect of disincentivizing businesses
who leave their countries in order to operate in places that have low or no taxes.
That certainly sounds different than what Alex would want you to think that this is,
and it actually sounds like something he should be principally in favor of.
He hates these multinational corporations that take all the money offshore.
Having a tax structure like this in place would actually seem to help address some of
the negative effects of globalization, but I guess the tip of the spear isn't interested
in this.
And you know nothing about it based on Alex's coverage of it.
He's just, it's bad, they wouldn't like higher taxes.
Yeah. They wouldn't like higher taxes. Yeah, yeah, it does feel as though
If you wanted that one to stick you should not have elected the owner of a multinational corporation
Yeah, that seems like I don't think they would have like been like hey
Let's keep this guy going
But I think the fact that that can happen is the reason why you wouldn't need it to be a global thing
Did anybody here's a question.
Did anybody even bother giving a shit if he pretended to divest from Trump organization
or is everyone in his fucking fight?
He launched a meme coin.
Yeah, right?
You know what I'm saying?
I remember last time people were like, oh, he's got a Jared Kushner and whatever.
There was a lot of talk about emoluments and all that.
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah.
Nobody gave a shit now, right? I mean, I think it
would be hard too. It'd be ridiculous. It'd be ridiculous. Yeah. I think the people tried
to care and had a good faith effort. There they went. And it went how it did. And now
everyone is just like, well, I guess. This is how we do it. This is how we do it now.
So Alex, he's like, hey, you know what I'd love to cover right now?
Yeah.
Hillary looking mad at the inauguration.
Honestly, so would I.
That'd be more fun.
That's more fun.
We ought to go back, because I've got so much here.
We ought to go back and just get footage from yesterday during the swearing in and during
the ceremony. And I mean, you look at the faces of Obama and Hillary and Bill Clinton.
And Hillary looks like she's been taxidermied. Obama looks like he's crapping his pants.
But Bill Clinton, who's looked like a corpse for years and still looks like he's starring in Day of the Dead,
but animated wise was laughing and smiling and turning red and getting off on it.
Because see Bill Clinton deep down... Famous for it, getting off.
Likes to screw underage girls, but you know, 15, 16, still bad, but he's not like, you
know, I'm sorry, from what we know, like certain people that think they're the world's doctor,
who reportedly likes to screw babies, basically feel powerful as a selfish piece of crap,
a demon.
Bill Clinton's evil as hell.
Sure. But man, he likes power. And you can't not look at Trump and be fascinated by it. I mean,
that guy is a frickin dynamo of engine power. I mean, that he is a workhorse. He is a Titan.
Game recognize game. Wow. Yeah, I don't know. I can't do a Bill Clinton impression. We were both
on the jet together. Why would I be mad? I'm Bill Clinton.
I'm here to have a good time.
Bill Clinton is in there.
He's like, I love power so much that I got to give it up to this Trump guy.
He's exerting power in such a way that it really hits my fundamental interests.
Now Hillary and Obama, they're not the same way.
Wait, I thought they were.
I thought they were all super interested in power.
I do feel like I actually I appreciate this.
I appreciate finding out about this because that fits.
That fits with my understanding of the world and of those people.
That is totally appropriate.
Bill Clinton should be yucking it up and having a grand time.
Well fine but I think that this fits my view of the world more and that is that Alex just
imagines things when he sees stuff sure that's true
Maybe Bill Clinton before the camera went to him was
coughing on a piece of popcorn that he was eating at the inauguration
This was all red could be and Alex has turned this into a he just loves it. Yeah, he sees Trump. He's so Trump's so strong
That is it is weird I
Feel like if I was the Obamas, I would
not go.
Yeah. Yeah, probably.
Yeah. I would have done that, too.
Yep. So Alex has someone who is going on the show.
Sure. Someone who's a guest, someone who
was a guest. Yeah.
Someone who hangs out with another guy who
is called Based Stickman.
Great. That is Enrique Torrio.
Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Allaurio. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
All right, former leader,
is currently the proud boys,
political prisoner, former J6 hostage,
released from prison last night.
And that's a whole nother subject.
Enrique Taurio is joining us.
I talked to their lawyer, who's also been my lawyer on some
things. Starting J6, Norm Pattis. He was calling me last night, 6 a.m. this morning. And he's
talking to all of them.
Norm was your lawyer on more than just J6, buddy.
Yeah.
Very, very cool. You sharing lawyers with these these guys that's not suspicious or shady
Especially considering that it's norm great. Yeah, so he's gonna have Enrique Tario on and I thought that was
Predictable and kind of funny
But more funny was that I hadn't thought a lot about for a while the fact that he used to hang out with people
Who jumped you into a gang until you named cereals?
Yes, that's true.
And he had a friend who was named Bass Stick Man because he hit people with sticks.
Yep.
And a guy named Rufio Pan Man because he hit people with pants.
He hit people with pants, yep.
Wow.
These guys were such dorks.
How far we've come.
How far we've come.
And their gang is named after that song from Aladdin, Be Proud of Your Boy.
We have come a long way from the Proud Boys.
Yep.
And it's all folding back on itself.
So Alex has the same lawyer as these Proud Boys.
Sure.
But he's also just like really good friends with them.
And for the next 30 minutes Enrique Tarrio is very gracious to give us his first big the
interview. Tario family fun
dot org at noble one. And he's
a really personal guy, a
friend of mine. Been here at
Austin many times been around
the country with him. Great
Trump rallies in D. C. Totally
set up for people that don't
know most people do. And Trump did the right thing. Total, complete, unconditional across the board. Stuart Rhodes, Joe Biggs, all friends of mine as well.
You're too close to this story, buddy. You were there on January 6th. You're friends
with all of these people who committed a seditious conspiracy and were convicted. You have the
same lawyer. This, this is a real close.
It feels like if Pablo Escobar was interviewing all of the people who ever
worked for him, it seems like, Hey, everybody got, we got out free.
It's crazy that we all have the same lawyer, isn't it?
It's crazy.
What a coincidence.
What a weird thing that I paid for the same lawyer.
Yeah.
And it speaks to norms quality.
He's a good guy.
Great.
Praise a lot in the court. So Tario
Yeah, he has this to say about I think he stops just short at the end of this clip of saying I owe Trump my life
Hmm, which I think is kind of what he's saying
But mr. Tario, it is wonderful
To have you free my friend. What would you like is wonderful to have you free.
My friend, what would you like to say to the world first?
My friend Alex, I am gonna tell you that I am honored
to give my first interview to you and Infowars.
I love you guys, I love you guys for fighting
for what's right and I'm happy to be out
and just like you said, I'm still shell shocked.
I'm still processing. I'm still processing my freedom. So with that, like I tell you,
I thank you. I thank you for everything that you've done. And I'm happy. I'm happy that
my guys are out. I'm happy the other J sixers are out. I'm happy we got pardoned. And I'm extremely happy with the 45th and
47th president of these United States, with Donald J. Trump. Promises made, promises kept.
Every time I had no doubt that he was going to win, I had no doubt he was going to release
us. And he didn't release us because we're a buddy, buddy. He released us cause it was the right thing to do, Alex.
And that I am eternally thankful for.
He gave me my life back.
Literally my life is back.
When he says, literally my life is back,
it kind of felt like he was gonna say, my life is his.
Yeah, yeah.
Now the issue that I have is,
I get the games
that everyone's gonna play with these folks,
like Alex and all of them, they're gonna sort of
re-solidify their narrative that these guys were innocent
and they were all set up and all this and they're
Ray Epps, blah, blah, blah.
But they know what they did.
Like, Enrique Tarrio knows what he did.
Stuart Rhodes knows what he did.
They know what their intentions were.
Right?
So they have to be getting out of prison and be like, Trump wanted us to do this.
He has clearly indicated that he will get our back.
Why would you ever not do exactly the thing you were doing and more?
Why wouldn't you have an expectation that like, we're Trump's mafia, we're Trump's guys?
I just love remembering that a lot of the impeachment trial hinged on like, they didn't tell him to do it.
He didn't direct them to do it.
He's not even related.
And it's like, if you pardon them immediately, that should be retroactive.
Oh, yeah.
We should now be able to be like, okay, you were impeached and removed from office in
2017.
Now that's gone. Yeah.
Okay, if they can take away Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy,
all right, we should be able to take away the presidency.
That's the way I should go.
And that means that we remove all the things that he did,
go all the way back to the beginning.
Cancel him out.
I don't know how you do it, but it sounds all right to me.
I just, I can't know how you do it, but it sounds all right to me. I just, I can't, I can't imagine how, uh, you can't look at this and be like, yeah,
you guys all know, you know, and you're going to behave based on what you know, not based
on what you're pretending to believe in public.
This is real fucked up.
I think that there is a PR and whatever kind of thing that Trump could have done when he
came into office with like, yeah, the guy who shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk, you're pardoned.
The guy who stole the lectern, you're pardoned.
You know, like this, all this stuff, you know, it could be like, hey, you're not, you're
not going to learn anything from going to prison and you're not really a danger to society.
I'm going to give a blanket pardon to all of these people. Sure. But
still keep Enrique Tarrio, Stuart Rhodes, the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers. Those people
should not have gotten pardons because exactly what you're saying is too
obvious through that action. Well I mean but those are the people he wants to
pardon. He doesn't want to pardon the people who are peaceful.
That would be stupid.
That's the tension.
Yeah, no, it makes sense.
Honestly, the only people that I can see it being a purely rational choice to be like,
I hope Trump becomes president, that's those guys.
That's their... Yeah, absolutely.
And people who stand to gain a lot off scams and shit like that.
Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, I don't blame them for being stoked.
No. Yeah. Not at all.
No. Not at all. And they know where their bread is buttered, and they know that they
have the president and the government's blessing to go beat up people at liberal protests and
stuff. Yep.
Yep. So cool. I wouldn't protest.
So, Tario talks about getting out of jail. It tells the experience
What was it like when you finally heard you were pardoned?
Well, um, they actually pulled me out of my cell at 4 o'clock yesterday
Central Standard Time and they told me that's it pack your stuff. You're leaving
They put me in a holding cell and right when they were about to release me,
they told me, wait, we have to wait because the verbiage on the pardon might exclude you
because the way that the pardon was written, it was for people who were at the Capitol.
So since I wasn't at the Capitol that day, I wasn't even in the district that day, the
warden just wanted to make sure that my name was on the list. So they put me back in my to my unit where
I sat and I waited up until this morning. But I was jubilant the entire time.
And did you notice when Trump actually put out the list, you put your name at the top?
Yes, I did. I did see that. I did see that and I'm thankful for it. Again, we have the best
president, I think since George Washington. Oh, there's no doubt. This is the real deal.
Oh yeah. So the street gang leader is the first name on the list. I can see how they might take
that as a message too. I definitely do. It's...
Hey, whether they read it or not, buddy, loud and clear to me.
And I can tell you, of the names on that, neither Enrique nor Tario would be first in terms of alphabetical.
Nope. No sir.
Pardon J. Johnson, that's fine.
Sure.
Keep these shitheads in prison.
I don't know.
So, I think that there's something interesting
in the way that this story is told because Tarja wasn't there. Right. You know, he had
already been arrested because he burned a Black Lives Matter banner that he stole from
a church. Because the other crimes and then he got caught with weapons in DC. He did the
crimes. Yeah. So he was already in in custody
And so it does make sense that they would be like hold on second
We just got to get this technicality worked out
Maybe this doesn't formally apply to you sure and then it took a little while couple hours and then he was released
Yeah, Alex
I feel like he's deeply invested in trying to push the narrative that they tried to keep Tario in jail, even though
there was the pardon.
And so he rephrases this multiple times.
I can't tell you it was hard.
These past 24 hours have been hard on me because I had faith.
It was a good time, Alex.
It's a good day.
It's a good day to be in America. But it is absolutely very
newsworthy, though, that because I remember reading that and I thought
about you when I saw the order come out and I remember thinking about you
because you weren't even in the state. And it it said right there anyone in or
around the capital on J six. So describe what it was like for people, again, because
you got caught up on the break. They take you out, say you're leaving, and they put
you in a holding cell. They come back and say, oh, sorry, we're not sure you're going
to be released now. Describe that.
Yeah. They said, we're not sure because of how the party, so we just got to make sure
with the administration. So it might take a couple hours.
They were actually really nice, Alec.
This isn't working out the way Alex wants it to.
He's trying to create some kind of a nefarious plot here,
but Tario is like, no, the reference is pretty cool.
It's really nice.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
It's a little speed bump that happened based on wording
and everyone wanting to make sure
that everything was checked off the list.
And Alex, this is not the only time he does this.
There's multiple times where he's really trying to like, come on, work with me on this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's just not going anywhere.
So Tario is the head of the Proud Boys.
Sure.
Serial King himself.
Yep.
The master of spoons.
Lucky Charms.
All right.
And so, you know, they were a gang of guys who liked to fight on streets and stuff, you
know?
They liked to yell things at Antifa and what have you.
It was their vibe.
And so Alex, he's like, uh, you're in prison.
I gotta debrief you on what's going on with the street level stuff right now.
We have the internet bud.
So Alex gives him a little rundown
They've pre-programmed you've been in prison you probably missed it
Because I know there's like you know one TV when you're able to get a few hours and see
But they have been saying Trump's gonna kill the migrants
Terrorists are gonna hit him
Tom Homan's gonna murder them they got all these mayor saying they're gonna resist that illegal lawful
constitutional federal operation and the the the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the the the the the to set them up on their raids in Chicago. Somebody leaked it. So they had to pull back for now. And that's good. They need to be very careful because all they need to do is these big demonstrations
are trap to get ICE to go after him there. And then somebody's going to open up with a gun or
truck bomb the migrants and blame a Trump supporter. I'm telling you, they have pre-programmed that.
They've had all the Democrat people on TV, Carball, Raskin, all of them. Oh, Trump's coming to kill the the burn down the cities much worse than 2020. What is your view on my concern and prediction?
I think your concern is extremely legitimate and I think we need to be stay vigilant.
So like Enrique Tarrio is the head of a gang, right?
I mean like, what is Alex telling him to do?
Stay away from those protests.
I would think so.
I guess that's probably what he is.
He's and if that's the case, then I guess that's probably positive.
Yeah.
Hey, proud boys.
Don't get it mixed up in this shit.
I guess whatever gets us to the proud boys not being there.
Yeah.
Works for me.
Proud boys stay home.
Don't stand back and stand by.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't like I don't like how it's being phrased.
No.
But you know what, if it keeps
them away, that's fine. Because there's a part of me that thinks that Alex is actually
trying to be like, we need this actually to happen. Right. And they aren't going to do
false flags, because that's nonsense of Alex's imagination. We need these conflicts to actually
happen to give Trump an excuse to crack down far more harshly on
our enemies.
Right.
We won't be able to do what Carville and Raskin say unless we do this.
Yeah.
So there's almost a part of me that feels like what he's actually telling Tarja to do
is be sure you go to these protests and cause some trouble.
Absolutely.
Because you're there to...
Because then we'll be able to say that all this shit's a false flag.
False flag.
Yeah.
This is the way that our dance needs to work
Send your most disposable people to these protests and have them cause problems. What time is it?
I think Joe Biggs is about to get out. Crazy. Yeah get on in there bud. So I like this
Enrique says something that I think Alex should probably take offense at. We need to make sure that
You know we cross our teeth
and dot our eyes and not fall for any traps.
I really think that we need to be looking at a lot of these people that rile up crowds
and really take a look at who they are and what's going on.
We saw it happen on January 6th.
It could happen a million more times.
Hey, you talking about me?
I rile up crowds for the bullhorn?
I was there on January 6th trying to rile up the crowd?
You talking about me, asshole?
I don't know what to tell you.
I don't know what to...
I'm gassed by flabber. If I were Alex, I would be pretty sure he's talking about there's only
Champion of riling up crowds
Listen I guess I guess
double speak
Wasn't enough. Mm-hmm. We're all the way at quadruple speak at this point
No, this is single sport knows what is being said
I don't even understand what's being said
We have to be suspicious of people who rile up crowds right Alex riles up crowds
But I mean it happened on January 6th
Alex was there with a bullhorn on January 6 specifically leading crowds through the streets of DC to the capital and then riling them up
Yeah, but now that's what they want again?
God, I don't even know.
I don't even understand.
So they talk a little bit about what needs to happen.
Sure.
And one of the big things is we need to arrest
Merrick Garland for spiteful reasons.
You know one person they haven't pardoned, Alex,
or maybe I didn't hear about it,
they haven't pardoned Alex or maybe I didn't hear about it. They haven't pardoned Merrick Garland. And Merrick Garland is I guess guilty of the same thing Steve
Bannon was. And Steve Bannon had to go through three months of federal prison.
I think we should start with that. We should put Merrick Garland at the very
least for 90 days in federal prison and give him a taste of his own
medicine of what he put us through. So I'm calling for the incarceration of Merrick Garland for
corruption and for not following the subpoena that the Congress legally gave him.
Well, that's a great point. For those that don't know, Merrick Garland
put quite a few Trump officials, including Steve Bannon, in prison
for contempt of Congress, refusing to testify, even though they were part of the administration.
Clear executive immunity, meaning that they do not have to testify on matters of that,
because that would violate the separation of powers
and allow congressional wish hunts.
And so he, though, said,
well, I'm the attorney general, so I'm allowed to.
And that's a great point,
that that would be a good start
to put Merrick Garland in prison.
Yeah, so Anna Paulina Luna
should put that resolution in front of Congress
to make a criminal referral
to Pam Bondi's Department of Justice.
And Pam Bondi should take a look at it and make a decision on whether to indict ex-Attorney
General Merrick Garland.
So Alex is full of shit, but let's just imagine that all of that description that he gave
is accurate.
Even if you stipulate all of that, then he shouldn't believe that Garland should be
prosecuted.
He believes that Trump administration officials shouldn't have gotten in trouble for not
answering a subpoena, and because they did, he believes that his side is entitled to do
things that he believes to be unconstitutional and bad.
Hearing him discuss these kinds of dynamics should make it clear to anyone
that he doesn't care about whether or not something is unconstitutional or bad. This is about making
an excuse to do shit in retribution that Alex couldn't justify otherwise. Because if he believes
that Steve Bannon was unjustly prosecuted, the answer isn't unjustly prosecute someone else.
isn't unjustly prosecute someone else. That's not appropriate if your concerns are based in the appropriate carrying out of the law. It's either both or none for Alex. And he
wants one, not the other. That doesn't fly. It's cheating. It is. He wants to cheat. He
wants to cheat. Well, to be fair, this is a pitch that's being given to us by a street gang leader who just
got pardoned for trying to overthrow the government.
Which is something that he should probably be ashamed about.
That's what he wants?
You're a street gang leader and you want the fucking Congress should refer him for criminal
proselytizing?
I prefer the Secretary of Retribution to this.
This is pathetic.
The Secretary of Retribution makes sense in its delusion.
This is somebody who is way outside their lane.
What are you talking about?
You should be saying that if Merrick Garland can't name eight cereals, you're going to
kick his ass.
Yeah, we break his knees.
That's what you should be saying.
We're going to go break Merrick Garland's knees.
And then the government's gonna be like,
that's illegal.
And we'll be like, is it?
And they'll be like, you got it.
You scamp, get out of here.
Oh no, you've been pardoned.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, I think it's kind of a little bit sad,
just from the like, hey, I run this organization
where we go beat people up and we have fun and we drink
and we talk about cereals and have fun nicknames for each other. I think it's really sad when you get
pardoned because then it's like I have the approval of the state. How transgressive are
you? How dangerous are you as a street gang? You're sanctioned by the police. You're sanctioned
by the government. Yeah. You're sanctioned by the government.
You're, you're, uh, yeah, the only thing to do is push the envelope as far as you possibly
can even if you're sanctioned by the government.
Right.
Because now basically you have the impression or you should, if you're Enrique Tario or
Stuart Rhodes, you should have the impression that basically you're the military or the
cops without the rules.
Yeah.
You're above the law. Yes Yeah, you tried to overthrow the fucking government and the next president just said hey y'all are cool
Yeah, you should be pissed off if you get a parking ticket exactly. Yeah, you'll be like fuck
I'm gonna call somebody about this and I will get it. Yeah
There's no reason why that wouldn't be a rational conclusion for you to draw. That's what I would do. Yeah
Yeah, so
We got one last clip here Alex Alex talking about how the Proud Boys are heroes. Mm-hmm. And then
Tario making a big announcement. Hmm. You know we had the Proud Boys, for people that don't know,
founded because, well it was already founded kind of just to have fun by, you know,
serial lovers. Kevin McGinnis. But got serious when Antifa in Portland in Seattle in
other areas was just going up and beating up any type of Christian barbecue or any type of concern.
I'm sorry, babies, you know, attacking children, women, a Christian barbecue, no Christian
barbecues go out there and never started, but always finish it. Mustard sauce that you'll get
never started, but always finish it. Here's mustard sauce that you'll get.
God tries to hit him with a metal baton.
It's just boom.
And the left hated the image of men,
black, white, brown together out defending women
and children heroes naming cereals.
So they called you Nazis.
They called you all this other crap dorks.
I now they're trying to say Trump speech was Hitler.
Elon's like Hitler Nazis.
So it's just not gonna work anymore,
but where do you see the Proud Boys going now
that they so tried to demonize,
that they tried to say it was a terrorist organization?
What do you see as now the future of Proud Boys,
and will you be involved in it?
I think the future of the club
is gonna be what it's always been.
Just a group of men that love America, get
around and drink beer and protect Trump supporters from being assaulted. We're not going to,
one thing I tell you, we're not going to fall for these honey, honey, honey pots anymore.
But we will defend ourselves and we will defend Trump supporters or any American from being
assaulted for their political views. Sure. As far as my future with the
organization. My political views. I'm not going anywhere and we typically we've
made a decision not to talk publicly about what our leadership structure is
but I do have a suggestion for the mainstream
media. They should stop calling me the ex-Proud Boy leader.
So you just made a statement about the leadership structure.
Sure. Fun. Right.
I know that there's probably legal reasons why you wouldn't want to have people know
too much about the leadership structure of your street gang.
Sure. But you just said that you're the leader again.
I mean,
unless words don't mean anything, then that's what you said. Yeah, that's cute. Yep. Um, very Nazi like. So he's, I guess, Enrique Huitario has re-ascended to the throne. And now this does
introduce an interesting kind of pickle. Yeah. And that is that we could be looking at a situation where Joe Biggs gets out of prison
and he returns to the sort of second in command position of the Proud Boys.
Yeah.
So you have an Infowars employee who is a second in command of a street gang.
Sure.
You have Stuart Rhodes coming out and if he comes back in charge of the oath keepers
then you have a
Fucking right wing extremist militia that is headed up by
Someone else who's super close to Alex sure you got a lot of adjacency here
You got a lot of close ties and they're the same lawyer. Yeah
Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about the
lingering court cases is how I would feel about it I would worry too much I
be like oh yeah no no no sure sure sure sure info wars is it owes you money I'm
sure oh yeah we do I'm sure we do yeah yeah this this Department of Justice
might not be as interested in anything mmm So yeah, kind of a bummer a little bit, I guess,
having Enrique Tario back on the day after,
but here we are.
Alex is trying to get as much juice out of this as he can.
Yeah, it wasn't quite the same political prisoner freeing
as like Mandela.
No.
Not quite that.
Didn't have the momentum, but you know. Well, you know when Mandela no not quite that didn't have the momentum but you know well you know
when Mandela got out he was like we're not gonna fall for these honey traps
we're not gonna fall for these honey traps no more yeah oh boy oh boy all
right so we'll be back with another episode and there there are other j6
folks who will be coming up of course roads of course we make an appearance in
the near future of course but yeah I mean, shit's just a mess. What you gonna do? A mess. Dark. Yep.
Dark times. Anyway, until we see some more dark shit, we have a website. Indeed we do
at SledgeFight.com. Yep. We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark,
I am the Mysterious Professor. Woo yeah woo yeah woo!
And now here comes the sex robots.
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