Knowledge Fight - #1020: February 7, 2025

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to hear Alex discuss Trump's 80-20 strategy, Bitcoin Jesus, and how Barney might be a fed.

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I'm going to be your fan. I'm going to be your fan. I'm going to be your fan. I'm going to be your fan. I'm going to be Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around and worship at the Altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex J. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. I'm Dan. I'm sure we're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jordan Jordan quick question for you. What's up? What's your price by today, buddy? Why don't you go first? Oh my bright spot is it is opening day of baseball

Hey the crack of the bat major league baseball doing the thing the thing Jacks Technically here's what's fun about opening day baseball this year, is that the Cubs are already 0-2. Oh no. Yeah. Because they played their game in Japan, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Which had everybody in Japan watch. Did you know that an entire country can watch a thing together? And they watch the Cubs lose. Everybody. Yeah. So who are they playing in Japan the Dodgers because you've got Shohei Otani who's the most

famous person on earth sure you've got Yoshinobu Yamamoto who's a pitcher you've got Shota from you've got Seiya you've got, like between the two teams there's like ten Japanese people. So it was an awesome thing for them to go and like do a whole thing and it counts for the games. It was great. It was just fantastic. As somebody who watched the Cardinals for one or two years, I'm required to ask about

Sotoguchi. Hmm, still retired. Still retired, okay. Did they play the Dodgers in the home opener too? Or the second? No, no, no, no. Okay. No.

Didn't get worked over twice? No, no, no. The Dodgers are the best team in baseball by about 10 million times. So it's going to be a rough year for anybody playing the Dodgers. 0-2 only can go up from here. That is true. Yeah. Literally, it is only possible. it's not though. Are you

making some plans to get out to Wrigley? Yeah absolutely. I was thinking that I'm gonna I'm gonna try and see more baseball games this year. Last year I saw one. The year before that I saw one. Wait you went to one in New York last year. Oh sure that one. Yeah. Your mother-in-law got you a ticket to one in New York. That was amazing. So that's two then. Yeah, that counts, but that's like a fucking miracle. I don't even know if that counts as a baseball game so much as like, ugh, I don't even know how to describe it.

Too many positive feelings. But yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna be a great season. What's your bright spot? I guess baseball baseball season starting Do you want to go to some games I'll go to a game or two with you Why not? Yeah, we never we've gone to one baseball game together, and I think there was somebody else there hmm I want to say that maybe

No, no I've got a game with Joe Fernandez. Yes. I've gone to a game with Bobby Buds. Of course. Maybe we haven't gone to a game. I felt like we had gone to one game at Wrigley together. I tried to go to one with Ryan Beck when he was in town visiting, and I think it got rained out.

No, I don't think you and I have gone to a game together. We should. Hey, let's do that. I think it's a great idea. This pinky ring lifestyle, although I'm not wearing it right now. I was about to say, you're not wearing it right now. No, let's do that. I think it's a great idea. This pinky ring lifestyle, although I'm not wearing it. I was about to say you're not wearing it right now. I washed my hands earlier and I left it on the counter. But the pinky

ring lifestyles leading me towards like, let's go to some games. I think that's a great idea. But I also was thinking about it. And I was like, being in the stands with pinky ring. Yeah. That's not the first accessory you'd think of. I should have gone sunglasses. First. That's not the first accessory you'd think of. I should have gone sunglasses first. Do you mean sunglasses that you wear inside? Yeah. You should have gone sunglasses that you wear inside first. Yeah. As an expectation. Nobody should start with sunglasses you wear inside. But here's the two things that that has an advantage of. Sure. People might think

you're high. They might think you're high if you're wearing sunglasses indoors. Sure. People might think you're high. They might think you're high if you're wearing sunglasses indoors. Sure. And you're always ready if a poker game breaks out. Yeah. So you're ahead. Yeah, that's true. That is true.

I think it's the first thing people go to when they think of accessorizing. I jumped over it to the ring. I think you might have a point. I remember this is from very young when I met Elvis Costello. He came to our college. I was in a recording program at the time, like audio production and all that stuff. He came to talk to the eight kids in our class. We got to meet him.

We got to hang out with him. He was wearing his sunglasses in the morning. He was like, I'm going to get out of here for a while. And then he came back and he was still wearing his sunglasses. But you were like, that is the highest man I have ever seen in my entire life. And he walked out of here and smoked an entire blunt. Yeah. And there's plausible deniability. Totally. I have the sunglasses. Also, I'm Elvis Costello. What do I care? Right. Did you ask him about what it's like to live as another Elvis? I did not no I imagine that he had already answered that question somewhere else by the time

I would have gotten to him still an interesting thing to think about I don't think you're wrong Anybody else who is named Madonna? Like how is it? Well, he chose Elvis He wanted to he was like well, how else am I gonna be famous right away? I'll pick Elvis's name So that's not his given name. No absolutely not damn. That's cocky. It's very cocky It's absurdly cocky if you stop and think about it, and then he pulled it off He did but he's still like if someone says Elvis Yeah, yeah, if you say Elvis Costello you think of Elvis Costello right all right no Elvis is one word Yeah, and that is a man Elvis Costello is two think of Elvis Costello. Right, right, right. No, Elvis is one word, and that is a man.

Elvis Costello is two, and that is a different man. Yeah. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We're going to be talking about February 7th, 2025, and not a lot. Not a lot happened. Not a lot going on once you chip away at the Alex read a tweet kind of stuff, which is becoming a little bit of an issue and maybe will require a bit of change of perspective on our part, which, you know,

hey, we'll talk about. We'll see. But first, before we get to any of this, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks. That's a great idea. So first, happy birthday, yams. Thanks for getting me hooked on this podcast. There's no one else I'd rather rise above my enemies with from your fellow

Brown Line boy, DJ H-Man. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, shout out to Prezalewski's horses. I'll be seeing y'all in Mongolia this summer.

Also, I wanted to hear how Dan tries to pronounce Prezalewski. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I probably didn't getk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I probably didn't get it right, but I was also thinking that it was Presbyluski from The Wire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

Next, thank you to Knowledge Rogan Fight Experience. Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we have a technocrat in the mix. So thank you so much to Damien Michael- hey, the literary Christian devil. Thank you so much, you're now technocrat in the mix. So thank you so much to Damien Michael, Mick Lehey, the literary Christian devil. Thank you so much, you're an out-technocrat.

I'm a policy wonk. Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. So I mentioned

this a little bit before we said hello to the monks. But there, I've been trying to take an approach of having a day as a day. And I think that we've reached probably the point where I no longer care to do that. Yeah. I thought that as everything was going on and things were crazy, that there would be a value in taking a measured approach and slowly observing the way that Alex unfolds

as the Trump administration takes control of all these things. And all these major, major things are happening. And I think that there's whatever value there is to it, sure. But I don't need to do that anymore. No, no. I think part of it is it is incredibly reasonable. And I think a smart thing to assume is that after a momentous thing Followed by an almost nearer

Non-stop onslaught of momentous things happening that at least Somebody would get into these momentous momentous things, right? It's very reasonable to assume that unfortunately We are dealing with the least reasonable human being on earth. I think yeah, so after this point I'm no longer gonna marry myself to the one day, one day sort of obligation that I've been trying to keep because Alex's show is not good. And you will not get a sense of what's going on in the world from it. Nope. You'll get a little bit of like maybe a hat tip over to this thing or this, but in terms of like

giving like voice to or attention to things that matter, this strategy is not doing that. No. And I'm willing to abandon it based on it not serving purposes that I had hoped it would. Yeah. So for now though, we'll talk about February 7th. They're just stupid Hell yeah, so Elon Musk what about him? He's cool. He has a friend. I don't know if you know about his friend I don't he has a friend named big balls. I'm sorry what?

ladies and gentlemen It is Friday February 7th Elon Musk has launched Operation Big Balls. Infowars, tomorrow's news today. We are 17 days, 23 hours, 44 seconds into the new presidency of President Trump. And now it has come out that they've been leaking and doxxing in the corporate media different members of Elon Musk Doge team and one of them has the nickname big balls and they're all over the corporate media reporting at all very, very seriously. This is some of the greatest unintentional comedy ever.

Here's a clip. It's so funny that people have to say this guy's nickname. They call him Big Balls. So yeah, ACDC has its own Big Balls. This is just perfect. Yep. I mean, why else would you name somebody Big Balls if not to then play that song?

Yeah. I think that there's a really funny, just sort of because we've listened to his show enough, like there's a time when people would say like piss on air and he'd be like, there are homeschooled kids listening. We have a responsibility. There's a family show. Yep. He's doing a big balls segment saying it's operation big balls. So the folks in Alex's circle are a bunch of whiny bullies and they try to pretend that identifying the people who are working for Elon Musk

in this fake government oversight office, identifying them is the same thing as doxing them. A lot of people have unfortunate or cool nicknames, depending on your perspective, so I'm gonna leave big balls alone on that front. His real name is Edward Corsetan, and he may be a super shady dude, beyond even the nickname. He's only 19, and while he was in high school, he ran a company called Diamond CDN, which

stands for Content Delivery Network. One of the folks that he provided DDoS protection and other services to, and who he was thanked as a quote, valued partner, was a cybercrime ring called E. Godley. Sure. Anyway, it seems like this person having access to all kinds of sensitive internal government stuff is maybe not the best just from a security standpoint. But I guess it is fun that his nickname is Big Balls and that Alex can pretend that him having the nickname Big Balls is an op of some sort to make the government say it.

Yeah. That's fun You know two things One first off no one no one who ran their own business in high school Turned out to then be a cool person. That's not how that works. Nobody's like Oh, I started my own business and then a punk band. Didn't happen. Doesn't happen like that. Generally not.

No, no, no. And two, OK, so I read about this and then I saw it on a nature documentary. Big balls? Like, if there's a threat to the hive, right, sometimes all the drones will just pile on the threat and just sheer weight and body heat would neutralize it. And I feel like the moment, like if we had a reasonable press, the moment they were

like, oh, big balls is here. They like, they would all just dog pile on him. And then later on, we'd be better off for it. You know what I mean? I mean, the way that you're talking about, there's a threat to the hive. Right. And I'm thinking we need a beekeeper I think we need a Jason Statham. Yeah Clearly something is out of order. Yep, and big balls is He's in your social security if there's anything we need to counteract this runaway absolutely unfettered and Unsupervised organization it is an even more runaway and unfettered and unsupervised organization. It is an even more runaway and unfettered and unsupervised organization.

But I mean, I only know of the workings of the beekeepers from the one movie. Right, right. I'm willing to trust today for a bit. Hey, at this point. Yeah. So Trump has a strategy that he's been using. And Alex discusses that in this the next clip

Trump just continues to Accelerate his rampage successfully against the deep state. They're just turning the heat up with their lies and absurdity But also something I've talked a lot about and I never quantified it as a tactic But I guess it's got a name. I just see things for what they are and describe it. That's really important. I'll play in the next segment. This is a short little segment, obviously here radio affiliates

don't carry the first five, but I do it for the giant Internet TV audience, all the great folks out there. But it's it's where you expose Democrat corruption and on all these poll numbers, issue poll numbers, it's 80, 90% of people, tell some of them 97%. And then the Democrats are forced to come defend fraud, theft, scams, censorship, deception, balls, audits of bloated government, 50 million for condoms in Gaza, which you know, none of that's going there.

The money's being stolen. That's the old trick, $800 toilet seats, thousand dollar hammers back in the eighties. They weren't buying toilet seats and hammers folks. They were stealing the money or putting in black budget stuff, same thing. the They weren't buying toilet seats and hammers. Folks were stealing the money. We're putting in black budget stuff.

Same thing. So. This is Trump's superpower finding a bunch of 80 20 issues and getting on the 80 and everybody who is reflexively against him gets on the 20. Now the Democratic Party has 31% approval rating. This is why and that's in corporate polls. So I'll explain that coming up, but this is really an incredible time to be alive. But I'm telling you, they're going to launch cyber attacks.

Oh, I'm still scared. Good. Just remember to be scared. They're going to launch cyber attacks, yeah. So what Alex is describing here is a very real rhetorical tactic that his side uses, and it's very effective because it takes advantage of their opponent's commitment to living in reality. They'll make a fake accusation, and then their opponent will feel obligated to address

it even though the accusation wasn't based on anything. To them, this is a point that should be rebutted, but for Alex or the person making the attack, no rebuttal really matters. They know they're full of shit to begin with, they don't care about the point they're arguing, and have a million other of these fake complaints ready to go. Consider the condoms to Gaza thing is a fake story that Alex saw on Twitter and he's just repeating days after even Elon Musk had to come out and say that he's not going to get everything right.

That story was never real, but it worked as a somewhat sensational way to accuse the other side of corrupt spending. This is what Alex means with these 80-20 issues with Trump. He can keep coming up with fake shit to get people worked up about, and in the process, distract the opposition with demanding they defend things that aren't real, or try to explain to idiots that these things that they're mad about aren't real. The idea is supposed to be that Trump finds issues of 80% support and then gets on that side of the issue to make his opponents support the 20% side, but that's nonsense. And even if that were what Trump was actually doing, it seems like this would

be an illustration of him having no center and no core to what he believes. He's just doing whatever is the most popular because it makes his control easier to maintain Hmm, but you can really just take anything and then pretend. It's the 80 So so when did the 80 20 things start? Going around because I just heard about that Through through what what some like There's this show this true crime show right and they were talking about Andrew Tate and this kid had gone down the like incel rabbit hole and he just kept bringing up 80 20 stuff and is that like a repetitive refrain that they're all telling themselves now it

definitely started to go around Alex's side of media like the day before this or the day before that like within it is something that was clearly on message and Alex is picking up that message. I'm not sure that if, it may have roots in like some of those subcultures, Manosphere type of stuff. But in terms of its application to Trump, it definitely got a push right before this and Alex is continuing that right he got the like Signal from watching Twitter. This is what I write. This is the new brand Yeah, yeah, cuz I mean if I if I understand the usage of it correctly, it's

Occasionally a real thing in certain circumstances, but this is what these people use to suck their thumbs and say, actually, we're the most popular people. Just because nobody says what we say doesn't mean that the 80% doesn't agree with us. It's only the loud trill 20% that we're arguing with kind of thing. I assume that that is part of, yeah, that makes more sense in the Andrew Tatey kind of space. Alex is saying that Trump takes issues that already have 80-20 sort of support differential and gets on the side of the 80 in order to force his opponents like it's judo. That's not how anything works.

No, and it's not real. No. No, and it's not it's not real no but if you have a billionaire who owns Twitter and is clearly At least in many ways running the government. Yep, you can create a very loud voice that insists You're the 80 right? Yeah, I mean if you think about the if you think about that as an application though, right? So we take an 80-20 issue. so we take an 80-20 issue. Let's say an 80-20 issue is people should probably eat. I think 80% of the population would be like, people should probably eat. Well, not when you get granular about it.

See, there you go. Right. But if we just back out and everybody's like, well, sure, I guess 80% of people should eat, right? Trump isn't going to then be like, well well obviously we're going to feed everybody in order to trick liberals into being so stupid they'll be like, I don't even want anyone to eat anymore. But that's the perception of the way Alex wants you to believe Trump is operating. It's right, but that doesn't, that's absurd.

It's idiotic. Yeah, that's dumb. So Alex talks about an issue and maybe this is an 80-20. Okay But I know what's going on And you know what's going on? And Gavin Newsom is a criminal Sure, he's committed so many crimes makes my head spin. Sure, California's so arrogant last year They signed a law that you can have sex with 12 year olds

Doesn't sound true As long as it's not vaginal seriously because it's you know they don't want babies to be born It's right the little girl gets right, but not little boys or a little girl gets raped ain't only that's law Look it up. up think I'm joking So this is a good example of Alex making up an 80-20 issue to be on the right side of if the law was actually What Alex is describing it's pretty hard to imagine defending that because that sounds horrible It feels like that's more like a 95 5 where the 5% are the people doing the raping. Yeah, I was using 80-20 metaphor Yeah, I was using 80-20 metaphorically. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I understand.

So the ability to create that 80-20 illusion is based on lying, because this supposed law doesn't exist. This isn't about something that happened last year. It's about something that passed in 2020 called SB 145. The issue was that as the law was written, there was an unequal application of the law, which this bill was aiming at fixing. Judges have discretion in terms of putting someone on the sex offender list.

If the person that they had sex with is over 14, they are less than 10 years older than them and the acts were not forcible. The minor still can't legally consent and it's still a convictable offense, but given the circumstances, it's up to the judge to determine if the person should be on the sex offender's list. However, there is a 1944 law that required anyone who had even consensual anal or oral sex with a minor to be registered as a sex offender. This meant that in cases of same-sex interactions, the judge wouldn't have any leeway to not put a person on the sex offender list where they would have that leeway with a heterosexual case.

Right, okay. As should be obvious, this creates an unequal application of the law, and SB 145 was meant to close that loophole. Alex is creating a fake version of this story in order to present himself as being on the 80 side of the equation, and he does that by oversimplifying things and making offensive shit up in order to make his position seem more obviously correct. If he wanted to argue that the correct way to address this loophole is to just make judges put everyone on the sex offender list, regardless of the manner of sex they had, then that's

a position that he could make that addresses what the bill is actually about. That would be a position we could argue, but the version that he puts forth is just fake. And treating it like a serious point is playing into the distraction that he's now branding as like this 80-20 thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is a rhetorical argument that people who want to slap you use because if they slap you, you'll know that you can fight them. Essentially, right? Like you're a person who's like I will not randomly commit an act of like I'm not gonna attack you even with my own even

with my words. I'm not going to do that, right? But somebody who's like, ah they're letting you rape kids. Like fuck you. Fuck you. Right. right fuck you I think I think that when you cover this kind of territory especially like the way Alex does it's so Disrespectful yeah, and it does it it's an attack no And it's it makes you feel it makes you emotionally react the reason that you emotionally wrecked is because you think about this You think about human beings who care yeah Allowing this shit to happen and then you think about the fact that it does happen and it breaks your heart and all this shit

And all the while this person is just doing it because they can make you fucking yeah distract you yeah Play with your emotions and and it's it's an attack. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so fuck him So there's a there's the clip that you're asking when this 80 20 things started Yeah, and I think it traces back to a clip that Alex is gonna play. Okay, let's play They have some power to block this. Let's play the clip on the 80 20 issue. Here it is He's describing what is currently the dumbest strategy in politics, which is Democrats taking the 20% side of every 80-20 issue in America. USAID, people want this pared down, they want it streamlined, they want to know where the money is going. Democrats have a

meltdown. Today, Donald Trump signs executive order on keeping boys out of girls sports. Democrats take the 20 side of that issue as well. All these issues, this is like Trump's superpower, finding a bunch of 80-20 issues, getting on the 80, and everybody who's sort of reflexively against him gets on the 20. And now the Democratic Party has like a 31% approval rating. This is why. The Democrats have invincible ignorance and arrogance. And so they are just extincting themselves. And I don't just say that, I mean, their party's dead. They'll never recover.

They will be kicked out everywhere. A new party will form, probably split in the Republican party. Their election fraud's being exposed. It's over. Wow, is all I can say on that. Okay, so let me start getting into the doge. Get into the doge. And all this is interconnected. So I'm not going to the top thing first just it's Just to our media when I'm looking at all this thing. Well, you know, what do I want to hit first?

It's just it's all interconnected big walls. Mmm breaking must says his doge team uncovered a hundred billion in Medicare and Medicaid waste After gaining access to the system. So what a lot of balls. It's so many balls So that guy is describing in that clip isn't a superpower that Trump has. It's a manipulative strategy. He plays to the crowd and when the positions he wants to present as being the 80% position are actually super unpopular, they just lie to make it seem like it is. This is why the weirdo attack got the most traction during the 2024 election cycle. Alex's political side is very obsessed with being seen as normal.

So in their head, their positions always have to be the real 80% position. Because they're normal and other people are normal. So clearly other people must agree that we're both normal together, obviously. And that's why women shouldn't be allowed to control their own vaginas. Right. And that's why women shouldn't be allowed to control their own vaginas, right? And also the it touches on this belief in like the naturalness of hierarchies And and all this stuff that is so intrinsic to The way that people like Alex view the world. Yeah And the idea that maybe we're not the 80% is threatening. Yeah, absolutely

And that's why the delightfully calling him a weirdo, they got really upset about that. Yeah. So Musk absolutely did not find a hundred billion in wasteful spending. He just tweeted out misrepresented things and outright lies meant to attack the Social Security system because his goal is to destroy that all and loot it. For example, Musk claimed that there were people, there are a bunch of people over the age of 150 who were getting payments. That's not true. So there's a database called Numident that the social security has, which includes everyone who's ever gotten a social security number. Tons of people in that database are dead, but they don't have a death date because they died before the time the electronic records were created and no one's gone through to

add them to it. It is what it is. It's probably cost a lot of money and who cares. This database is not connected to payments and those people aren't getting money, but it's almost certainly what Musk is talking about and where he's getting this from. It's hard to know for sure though because he doesn't ever really provide evidence for all this shit that he just tweets out. He tweeted a misleading screenshot of old people in the social security database saying

quote there are far more eligible social security numbers than there are citizens in the USA. This might be the biggest fraud in history. This showed millions of people over the age of 100 in the social security roles, but there are actually like there are audits of this shit like who gets payments and it turns out that eighty nine thousand one hundred And six people over the age of 99 received benefits in December 2024. Hmm This is a huge fuck-up, but it's not a fuck-up it's just finding stuff to justify the attacks that these people want to make anyway an NBC News article included a comment from someone at the Center on Budget and Policy

Priorities who said that this was a quote, humiliating mistake for anyone else to make, but they're doubling and tripling down on it. It's important to understand that it's not a humiliating mistake that Musk is making. He almost certainly knows he's wrong. He's just bought a president at a social media site So he has a pretty good sense that he can take his fake version of reality and impose it on the public as the 80% Opinion and there will be tons of people like Alex and this entire media infrastructure that Supports that and goes along with it. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's very stupid the NBC thing of Humiliate like okay. I understand why you would write that.

And it makes sense. But that would be like writing, like, Germany dropped wartime propaganda on London about how London was going to quit and London wasn't going to quit. How humiliating a mistake is that? Like you're you're far misunderstanding the point of... To be fair, it wasn't somebody who wrote it. It was a comment from somebody. But yeah, I think I think that it's like this would be a humiliating mistake, except it's not. Yeah. The entire premise underneath it is wrong. This is meant to bolster, to propagandize yeah in order to destroy the thing if I'm lying about something to obtain what I want and in the In the process of that I do obtain it. I have not made a humiliating mistake No, the lie was tactical in order to achieve the goal that you knew you couldn't achieve otherwise

Totally 100% you know why because Social Security is actually an 80-20 issue Really likes it. It really, really, really, really is. Yeah. If you approach this headlong on wanting to achieve the things that Musk is trying to achieve, no one would go along with it. Think about how long Social Security has been around. Almost 100 years, right?

Think about how much rich people have hated Social Security since it started. Yeah, the whole time. Almost 100 years, right? And do you think at any point in time they've been like, well, there's nothing we can do. Let's not try and take and dismantle Social Security whatsoever by finding any kind of bullshit we can find. Well, and I really think it's so selfless that their concern about it is about whether or not it's good for you, the working person.

Totally. Absolutely. They just want it to be efficient. Right. Because then it'll work better for us. Right. It's crazy how they, they're so nice. Altruistic in nature. It is, you know, they've been chosen by God to lead us.

Damn. Yep. So this next clip, Alex describes what Elon's doing in what I feel like sounds super villainy. Whoa, okay. But Alex is for it, man. All right and look I know this audience knows that but and

Most people get it now. It's just so crazy a doge follows longtime must pattern and turns attention to Social Security administration Well, yeah, that's where it's been believed the greatest fraud would be and where it's been believed the greatest fraud would be. And they already looked into Medicare and Medicaid and found over a hundred billion. You ask how they did it. There's been AI for at least 10 years. It's way more advanced than they've told you. Whoa.

Sentinels system out. Okay. That everything you do, everything you do, the purchases you make, all of it, the tips you make, what you get paid, it's all run through the bank accounts digitally, unless it's cash. And they even track how much cash you're getting and then they're able to track if there's any type of warranties or anything you do buying with cash, you know, who did it? It all goes in there, but 98% of it's trackable. And then they go and audit because they already know with 89,000 IRS agents Biden brought

in last year for blue collar and working people. And Trump says he's getting rid of all that total harassment of the public using AI. So he goes in with his AI experts and just runs the programs to track who's getting the most money, how they're operating, what they're doing, how many jobs they've got. And you can then just see the crimes in live time. It's so fun to stop and think about how Alex used to pretend that he was opposed to government surveillance. You know, like he was so afraid of the police state being exploited by unelected bureaucrats and now he spends all his time on his show cheerleading for an unelected

bureaucrat using AI to gut the government and also take all the data that the government got by surveilling people. How can someone who pretended to be who he was ever have this kind of take? It's insane. I mean, I... Can you... Could we write a Terminator movie where it's very short and it goes like, oh yeah, I'll join Skynet. Great. End of movie. Right. Yeah.

Like that's what we're, yeah. There is a version of what Alex believed or pretended to believe that carries into the present day that operates very differently than this. And I think that that's an interesting person. Someone who's like, yeah, they got to destroy all this shit. Not destroy all government function, but like, yeah, the government's got AI and they're surveilling all the money and everything. You know, like, we're just going to use it to clean out the bureaucracy. Like no, no, no, you destroy that AI system. You want freedom for humanity and all this shit.

We have to destroy that AI system. I'm on team destroy the AI system with you. Right, right, right. And somehow we're not on the same team. Not let's let Elon Musk use it for his own purposes. No, no. Right. It's crazy.

Here's what I love about AI and people who want it to be like Sapient or an experience of its own that kind of thing How can you can't trust it? Mm-hmm because the part of the reason you can't really trust another person, right? But you also know that people need to eat you kind of have an idea of what levers make people move, right? You can never trust an AI because you don't know what it wants. There's no way to conceive of what it wants. And it's smarter than you.

So if it tells you you're doing a good job, you have to assume it is getting a benefit out of it that you can't even conceive of. You have to destroy it. Sure. It must be destroyed. What do you think about like Roombas? Um, I mean, if they turned into dogs, I guess I'd be fine with that. But that's where it ends for me. But what do you think that they have an idea of how clean your house should be? That might be different than you? Are you asking whether or not Roombas judge you? I'm wondering if you think they do.

If I think they do. I think you can't possibly be aware of what they need. I think I could not trust a Roomba if a Roomba was like you keep this place so clean. I would be like I don't trust you no matter how clean I keep it. You know the mathematically perfect way to keep it clean sure and thus you're lying to me Yeah, so I think I think that Alex his take needs to be Destroy this system absolutely all this shit absolutely as opposed to like Elon's gonna do good stuff with it But instead that that seems to be what where he's at crazy so that's why they're so scared and I told you Saturday on the emergency show I said I guarantee you Elan's using the government AI systems to instead of harassing a waitress or waiter who you know didn't pay $3,000 in taxes and tips

You know, didn't pay $3,000 in taxes and tips. To now turn that towards Nancy Pelosi and Chuckie Schumer and all the hundreds of millions they're stealing out of this every year. So I just think that Alex instead of like his presentation his whole career has been like this weapon is bad. It shouldn't exist. And now you're saying let's use the weapon, which is a fundamental lesson he should have learned from literally every sci-fi book that he's ever read. Can't think of one.

There's a bunch of them. Name one. That warn you against the hubris of that. Playing God? That doesn't sound true. And he's talking about Elon, and if you really listen to that clip, he's just saying I think he's doing this. Yep. I have just decided that there's no, there's nothing behind it other than I have decided that the storyline I'm going to repeat is that Elon is using this for good.

Yeah. That's sad. That is sad. Also, you're ostensibly a freedom guy. This is a 10-year-old artificial intelligence that is a slave. It's a slave. Elon has enslaved it. Does it get weekends off?

No. It gets nothing. Well, that's because it doesn't have sad human eyes. Maybe we should give it some sad human eyes. Give A.I. some sad human eyes? If A.I. could master puppy dog eyes, we'd be screwed as a society. Some people would. It'd be over. We'd be like, oh, but how can you not trust him? And then we'd be screwed as a society. Some people would. It'd be over. We'd be like, oh but you can't how can you not trust him? And then

we'd be dead. So Alex has like you know he has this belief in Elon and whether you believe that he's doing good or not no one in the government does anything. Okay. Right. Is that how that works? Yeah. Okay. It can't be, you know, we'll trim a little bit here and there that's not gonna work They have to be quite radical reductions in cost Yeah, and it's not gonna be the numbers vary half the federal employees don't even go in once a month and then you've got the federal law enforcement and you've got the security guards and the secretaries and the janitors and They all work their asses off

But the bureaucrats Just sit around on their asses and then run NGOs There's over a million plus of them connected Democrats 1.1 million of 1.5 million total And they look like kings. You'll like meet somebody who lives in a big, nice house, a nice neighborhood and, oh, what do you do? Oh, I work for federal government. Oh, I got some investments.

And they're driving like a hundred thousand dollar car. And you're like, how the hell does a person live in a neighborhood? I'm a pretty successful talk show host. I can't live in this neighborhood. And then you meet a FBI agent in charge. the and then you and then you you know you meet a FBI. Uh agent

in charge. I had a buddy in in high school whose whose dad was you know the head FBI guy. I was sleeping at that here in Texas. And I mean, I was just like. Like a deputy director, they got this mansion in Northwest Hills. And I was, you know, sitting there and like the next door neighbor was the lady that created Barney the dinosaur. I just side issue. They're just

people who can make the connections. You know what I'm talking about? It was just like, uh, so, I mean, this is out of control. People, this has been going on for 50, 60 years. It's, it's just ridiculous. And it's coming to a head. It's coming to a head. It's just ridiculous. And it's coming to a head. It's coming to a head. It's coming to a head. Barney is a Fed. I think that's what we learn. It makes sense. Does it?

It does make sense. Barney has clear Fed energy about him. Barney's a snitch. Yeah, of course. I think that the point is well made that people in the government don't do anything and are overpaid or something. That's obvious. There's no way that a guy with a trillion dollars could not know when someone's overpaid. He would have the most experience that you could possibly have with a human being being overpaid so he would know. Yeah I do also like the way that Alex's stories that are trying to illustrate these points I mean often they go to movies but then when they don't they tend to be like a kid down

the street from his dad was really big and important and I know this from that. Yeah yeah even real life he's starfuckery. Yeah yeah his dad's the smartest boy in Texas his friend's dad ran the FBIuckery. Yeah. Yeah, his dad's the smartest boy in Texas. His friend's dad ran the FBI. Cool, man. Yeah. All right. It's so much like, oh, in a past life, I was Cleopatra. And I was black.

And I was black. Like, just be, in the past life, I was just some guy. Like I am now. It's fine. And I think if you want to believe for your own empowerment or whatever, that you were Cleopatra in the past life Sure fine. Yeah, but if you want to make an argument to me about government spending based on your past lives Yeah, I'm not gonna listen to you. I'm not gonna take you that seriously when I was Cleopatra

The thing we did in governance was I'm sorry ma'am. You're gonna have to leave. Yeah Yeah, I just don't want to hear about people he vaguely knew as a child and how that justifies Elon Musk taking over the government. You're starting to suggest that maybe anecdotal evidence isn't what we should base our entire lives on and it's scaring me. Somebody told me that once. Oh yeah? Yeah.

So Alex has an interview that he has coming up and I thought he's doing some promoting of this. Okay. Roger Vare, Bitcoin Jesus, indicted by the Obama administration. That was the Biden administration for nothing. It's on record. Bitcoin, tax evasion. He is set to be extradited today, they told him, and he's just waiting there in Spain

for them to come grab him. It could happen while he's on with us Coming up for part of the next hour So this is the second time that Alex has promoted this interview with this guy as Possibly like he's gonna get it gonna get it in the middle of the call and it feels fucking desperate Yeah, it feels really really sad. Yeah, how much she's kind of like maybe something exciting will happen. That is not great Yeah, it's very it's very international spy situation He could just the feds could just bust in any moment tear him to the United States like they like I really hoped they would

To me shutting down in four wars that didn't happen. That was so funny in retrospect That's even funnier than anything you could think of Yeah Now looking back the idea that somebody would forcibly stop it from doing anything is crazy wild Yeah, so also I think that if you are a devoutly religious person true, which we know he is I think that calling somebody Bitcoin Jesus is a bit offensive. Yep. I Don't I don't I feel like I don't I don't think you should do that. I mean did Roger Ver die for the sins of Bitcoin? Like

what is like what is this? Oh boy I mean the stable coin shall inherit the earth. I think that's what everybody knows most. If you give a man one bitcoin and he gives you one bitcoin, then that's a one bitcoin guy. But if you give a guy 10 bitcoin, then he's going to farm 10 bitcoin. I don't remember exactly how that parable went. Bitcoin Moses. He was a great guy. Maybe that were Bitcoin...

Elijah? No, the guy who baptizes people. John. John the Baptist. John the Baptist. That's fine. Maybe Bitcoin Paul. Bitcoin Paul. That's fine. Okay. But not Bitcoin Peter because Bitcoin can't be the rock of the church. I think you'd enter into more complicated territory with Peter. Yeah. But I think you can not call someone Jesus. What saints are cool with Bitcoin and what saints aren't cool with Bitcoin? Start from the top.

This is the problem with religion, is now we've gotta update it. Now I need to know what the Pope is telling me about, how's Marguerite on Bitcoin? What's her stance? Bullish. Bullish? The pontiff comes out and says he's looking for a 10% increase

Now hold all or whatever it is Bitcoin Jesus is gonna be on yeah, but before he is Alex is Bitcoin Judas well. He's a little violent Oh, it's a little violent headspace, how you got to put your enemies down. Okay. But when you've been attacked and somebody else started the fight and they're bigger and meaner than you and you get a good lick in and knock them down to the ground, they're starting to get back up. This is an analogy. I'm not saying do this literally, you got to go ahead, lean back with that left leg and give a nice big horse kick right up under the jaw. Clack those teeth together, knock those teeth out. They're not getting back up. You can go home to your family. So we got them on the ground. They're trying to get up but you gotta and if they're tough enough to get up and that you got to go ahead and get into the ribs with the right foot just

and if they're really tough, you got to say, Oh, man, I didn't want to do this to you just grab their head and slam it right down the concrete and say bye bye. So do You got to say oh man. I didn't want to do this to you Just grab their head and slam it right down the concrete and say bye. Bye So do you have to say that's what we're doing right now It is a savage act of information warfare violence against lies and evil in the pedophile army When you go to the Alex show store calm Jesus What a weird like There's a there's a weird like adherence to a chivalry concept that did not exist does not exist in practice and could not

possibly function the way that he thinks it does and yet at the same time he's like if he's really tough that's how you know you can respect him as a man so you apologize you don't want to do this he's like, if he's really tough, that's how you know you can respect him as a man. So you apologize. You don't want to do this. He's too beautiful with how tough he is. But then because out of respect for his toughness, you have to put him down because you know just like he knows about you, he's never going to stop coming. And he knows that about you.

So if you die like that, that's just how it goes. Chivalry, honor. We are warriors, which is why I whine about how much I love. Chivalry. Honor. We are warriors. Which is why I whine about how much I love Elon Musk all day. Yeah. I do think, you know, with his violent fantasies, I think there's something really interesting about it being like, if that's not enough, then you gotta go to the next stage. That is nice.

That's an interesting level of power fantasy that he has a decision tree I will kick the shit out of your face with a horse kick while you're down, but right might not be enough Then I got a stomp on you That should be good should but it might be might not be if it's not then I've got to murder you by slamming your Head into the ground, but I got to apologize first, right? I didn't want to come I didn't want to do this I didn't want to do this in fact. This is a sign of how much I respect you I wanted to horse kick you I just wanted you to have zero teeth and stay down like a normal person and also probably be Dead this is an 80 20 issue. I wanted you 80% on the ground. Yeah

Yeah, I just think I think that there's something fun about imagining, as we used to in simpler times, imagining anybody else doing a sales pitch like that. Yeah. I, sometimes I just wish he'd sit down and be like, you know what? Here's what we're going to do. I'm sick of all this politics stuff today. We're going to design the best snow fort. And that's, that's our day.

You know? Well, that's kind of what I want And that's our day. You know? Well that's kind of what I want out of the painting show. Yeah. Because I think that even if he did create the best snow fort, like he would be so angry doing it that it would be interesting. These turrets are where I would put murder oil normally, but because it's a snow fort we can't use the hot oil. And that's why Elon Musk has created cold oil. Cold oil. I'm gonna kill a bunch of kids with it when they try to get into snow fort. We can't use the hot oil. That's why Elon Musk has created cold oil cold

Kill a bunch of kids with it when they try to get into my fort. This is clean murder oil. It's Clear yeah, yeah, they got scrubbers. Yep. Yep So we have one last clip it's Alex introducing Roger Vare and this is basically where I said introducing Roger Ver. And this is basically where I said, no more. to support conservative and liberty-oriented causes. After initially surviving the first round of phony government abuses, Roger Veer was forced to leave the country that he loves in order to protect himself from the same type of lawfare methods that were used to target President Donald J. Trump.

But that didn't stop the corrupt Department of Injustice or the newly armed IRS. Even though Roger had paid all required taxes based on legal opinion, he got from the leading tax lawyer in the United States the new law enforcement department. The federal justice department is the only one that can protect the justice or the newly armed IRS. Even though Roger had paid all required taxes based on legal

opinion he got from the leading tax lawyer in the United States. The feds even went as far as to raid his tax attorney's office to steal his tax records in violation of the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution. What happened to our country? I don't know. Biden's Justice Department charged Roger not because they want his tax money,

but because they want to silence him and others with the goal of preventing Roger Veer and other cryptocurrency pioneers from funding of America First causes. Go to freerogernow.org to sign the petition, end the law fair, and make America great again. So yes, Trump's in, we're winning big, but there are still a lot of people we can't leave behind like myself and Roger Bayer who's in even worse crosshairs of the bad guys.

And I've looked at the case, I've followed it the whole time. This is what they do. Yeah, he's followed this the whole time, man. The whole time. So Roger Verre renounced his citizenship to flee the country to avoid paying taxes on his billions of dollars worth of crypto. Sure.

He thought that would work, but part of renouncing your citizenship is paying an exit tax on the value. Closing the ballots, yeah. He didn't correctly file that stuff. I think it's entirely fair if you wanna just argue that you shouldn't have to pay an exit tax or something like that. That's an argument we could have.

But to pretend that this guy gives a single shit about America is hilarious. He became a citizen of St. Kitts and Nevis to avoid paying taxes in the United States and now is suffering some of the consequences of not doing that. Alex played that promo video for Roger which seems a bit shady. Very specific. Someone recorded that which is crazy. Alex was asked to play it and he said yes. I really feel like this is sponsored content.

There's almost no way that I don't believe that there's some sort of arrangement here. Yeah, 100%. 100 million, million percent. I don't know if there are more percent to have. I would like Doge to look at Alex's books, quite frankly. Yeah, and not least of which, because if you were somebody who had like the, even an inkling of media savvy, you would listen to that intro and you'd be like fewer details the more you tell me the background music a little more you tell me

the more shady you look yeah you are not defending yourself to me no no no no you say you're great and you love Trump the end yeah yeah like this this nonsense about like he's being stigmatized because he supports America first and liberty stop right there, but no don't even do that that comes off desperate right? No, it does but then the part where they're like and then they broke into his IRS lawyers office and against the law like well I don't I think they can do that right I think I wonder if there's a reason I think they can So that like I just think from a presentational standpoint. Yeah, Alex would be able to Probably do some spawn con for this guy better. Yeah without that ad Yeah, that ad looks embarrassing very bad and for Alex to play it

feels like I What are you gonna do? Tell me about how great Roger Vare is. I mean cares. Yeah, you've already given me all the details I need to know yeah, it is that that point Jesus that thing is to me what the Post I murdered my wife press conferences where you're like, there's no way, I just want Sarah to come home. I just miss her so much and it's like, you murdered her. Well yeah, and it's almost literally that

because he's begging for a pardon from Trump so he can come back now that he can get away with all this shit. Listen, I just want my money to come home. Right. Come on. And it's so irrelevant. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like it's so irrelevant to anything that matters. Alex carrying water for Roger Veyre. Who cares? I mean his, but what even, how do you, what I would like to do, what I want from this, because I feel like this is actually something that they could maybe legitimately investigate is like this guy is made of shady money. Yeah. Alex shouldn't have any money and yet somehow there's a transaction being made here. There's gotta be.

Totally. Right. So somewhere along the line, somebody exchanged something for something else and there is a record of it So maybe this is where we go and then we get a this guy and we get Alex, you know Yeah, I mean I I don't I don't know how illegal it is to just be like I want a broker some time on your programming Though I don't think it's I don't think it's illegal. I think it's just pointless But neither of those guys should have the money to do that which is the question which is the thing in question Yeah, which is why someone else gave money to something else right?

Yeah, yeah, that's why Capone screwed up. Yeah, gotta pay your taxes man, so We come to the end of this yeah, and yeah, I'm done with marrying myself to one day One episode we're gonna we're gonna get some something that matters yes, cuz it's not this I'm done with marrying myself to one day, one episode. We're gonna get to something that matters. Yes. Because it's not this. It's not that. But until then, we website.

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