Knowledge Fight - #1023: February 28, 2025

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex in the aftermath of having not saved Gene Hackman, as he tries to play defense for Pam Bondi's failed PR stunt and has a mental orgasm over Trump being me...an to Zelensky.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight! N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n- It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan. Knowledge fight. Rattler, rattler, rattler. I need, I need money.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Rattler, rattler, rattler. Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy and. Stop it. Andy and, Andy and Kansas. Andy, Andy. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a
Starting point is 00:01:04 little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Saline and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today buddy? My bright spot is Bonsoir. Okay. That's what you should have said before the show. That is what I should have said. You said Bonn-Nui. Yeah you're right. Which is good night. Bonsoir is good evening. Yep you're right. And I realize that just now. Just now that's your bright spot? Yeah. Okay. No, my real bright spot, I've been living this pinky ring lifestyle. Sure. I've been going out, living with a pinky ring. Absolutely. Experiencing new things in the context of having a pinky ring on.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Right. And I can tell you, I had a very interesting experience. I went to an emergency room with a pinky ring on. Right. How'd that go? I felt like an asshole. Yeah, that's not the time for it. No, I don't want people to be worried about me or anything.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I don't want to cause that kind of alarm, but I did intentionally wear the pinky ring when I went in because I was like, when am I going to have this opportunity ever again? Let's hope never. Yeah. Let's hope not frequently. But I get to have this experience as somebody who's wearing a pinky ring, and I get to have this experience. Sure. I had somebody who was wearing a pinky ring. Yeah. And I felt like a complete asshole.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Sure. So much so that you are not currently wearing the pinky ring. Well, I showered. Oh, okay. Gotcha. All right. I have it on. But yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I just felt like a dick. Why? Just because for any of them just looking, just like being like being like oh we see so many patients all the time with any number of illnesses And ailments and idiosyncratic behaviors and terrible what that guy's got a pinky ring What a prick well because I think that they know that I don't normally Accessorize at all okay, and I feel like they know that I'm wearing this Forcing okay, so you're saying that there is a generalized understanding that you're a posure in a certain sense.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Yes, yeah. I feel like that might be obvious to these viewers, these external viewers. And then also, I have a little bit of concern. I might need to get a different ring because this is a Future Farmers of America ring. Sure. And it does have a weird eagle on it that kind of looks like an iron eagle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I've looked at it quite a few times. It doesn't look great to me.
Starting point is 00:03:09 No. And from a distance, I do feel like it could be misrepresented pretty badly. I would prefer a skull, but I wasn't going to say anything because that sounds awful. But I mean, a pinky ring with a skull on it is a really great way to start a conversation. I did have to Google it to make sure it wasn't some like awful thing, you know It is a future farmers of America right thing, but yeah, you could easily get it get it twisted And so anyway, I think I'll get a new pinky ring Yeah to continue this experiment in a way that I have less self-consciousness about I Love I love self-consciousness. I appreciate it
Starting point is 00:03:44 I can just say like there's a part of me that almost envies that idea because I walk into places and I'm far More than aware that nobody's paying everybody's got their own shit going on. Nobody's paying attention to you. You're fine Everybody looks at you and they're like that guy looks nice. Oh, is that a pinky ring? I wonder what happened. Did he fight in the war? I know I just Am a future farmer. You're a farmer. There you go. We all find out about each other every day So what's your bright spot my bright spot? Far less emotionally complex or fraught new album by a nao. It's really good Okay came out in a month or two ago, or maybe last week. I have no idea. I've been listening to it
Starting point is 00:04:23 It's really good. who is this nao she's a very talented like r&b kind of singer so that's different than neo from the matrix very different not very different singer named neo also I want this this in particular is nao all caps okay all caps when you spell nao's. Yeah, cuz there's a neo Yeah, it's a songwriter. Yeah What songs did he do I remember neo I All remember neo that's why I was confused. Okay. I apologize right well. This is nao Very similar and it you're digging it. Yeah, it's great sweet really good album
Starting point is 00:05:03 All right, nothing super special, but it's great. Simple pleasures, baby. Yeah. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We're going to be talking about February 28th, 2025. And I think that on our last episode we experienced some stuff. Yes, we did. Gene Hackman's death.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Gene Hackman's death. Or hack. Sure. He pronounced it did. Um, Gene Hackman's death, Gene Hackman's death, or hack. Sure. He pronounced it varying. It could be, um, hit hard. Alex had 200 prophetic dreams about Gene Hackman and how he was supposed to go to Santa Fe to see him or something. And so I wanted to check in and see like, how you doing the next day? Yeah, cuz that was heavy I mean, I think I think as far as like Contextualizing it first off discovering that you are a betrayer of the faith. Yeah rough. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:05:56 and second it recontextualizes my experience of like reading through what Gene Hackman's last days might have been like like like reading through what Gene Hackman's last days might have been like, like, man, all of that could have been avoided if it weren't for Alex spitting in the face of God. Sure. If you take like the most generous interpretation of what Alex's mission could have been, it could have been to show up in that interim time when his wife had passed and he was still alive and like save him from this horrifying last stretch of it. So Alex didn't do that but got told him to or something maybe. I think if you believe anything that
Starting point is 00:06:37 you're saying when you're Alex you gotta be fucked up for a while after that. Seriously you I would just go to a monastery or something. You have to be like, what good am I? I have had the challenge put in front of me and I've showed myself to be lacking. Totally. So we'll see how he is today. Probably great. But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Ooh, that's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:06:58 So first, Dave is God's bitch. Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Luke the hound dog, whose whose secret identity is inspector sniffington and his trusty human damn Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you very much And shout out to Warren whose good spouse wants us to congratulate him on his CS degree. Thank you so much You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much and congratulations
Starting point is 00:07:21 Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And congratulations. And we have Technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much. To bbqedass is another way to say pork butt says sheriff underscore Flynn on Twitch. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:07:33 You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser,
Starting point is 00:07:48 little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So we start off our adventure here and I mean, I feel like Alex's tone is what you'd expect. Sure. It's Friday. This is the most important broadcast I've ever done. Everything is going crazy. The name state's burning down right now. Infowars. Tomorrow's news. Today.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's the most important show he's ever done because he must apologize to God. I mean, I... It really fucks me up thinking that he actually believes any of this shit right because that generally is like The faith question that so many people constantly wrestle with of like if I were put into that martyr situation would I make the choice you fantasize about it as a person of faith. Totally. The left behind series of novels exists purely to show why people like Alex Jones will be tortured forever. The Mighty Mighty Ballstone song, the impression that I get is I'm not a coward, I've just
Starting point is 00:08:57 never been tested. I like to think that if I would, I would pass. Totally. That's the sentiment. You have failure. Yeah. And which, which I don't think is like inherently bad. I think failure is absolutely a great thing that we all have to learn to deal with. And lose well, baby. Absolutely. And then to like take failure and expand and grow and ensure that it doesn't happen again. The idea
Starting point is 00:09:21 of failing on this level and just being like, and then going on with your day, crazy. There's something that I think that is really what sticks out to me about what I, one of the things that I really enjoy about Alex is that it just exists without continuity. And I think that continuity is something that's kind of funny. You know, like when things exist in defiance
Starting point is 00:09:44 of like continuous reality, it's funny to try and impose it on it yeah and so us existing and watching Alex is funny because he's not consistent to himself and we're trying to make it work yeah so anyway he's not fucked up about Gene Hackman at all of course there's other things that are going on. Gotcha. Like, hey, did you know that it's the 39th day of Trump's rule? I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:10:10 We are now 39 days. We're starting the 39th day of Trump being sworn in. Exactly 39 days ago. It is Friday, February 28th, 2025. I have to be calm because we have all the pieces, geopolitical, domestic, what's really happening. And I want to explain something to everybody. No one really in the even patriot media, which is the dominant media now I think that everyone really in the even patriot media, which is the dominant media now worldwide
Starting point is 00:10:47 over winning so much. Understands the full magnitude of where we are right now because I slept three hours last night. I scan everything. I've been up since three a.m. And I've never been in the game more. Okay? 30 plus years on air. We have so much general knowledge about all the systems. And that's the reason we have understanding quite frankly that
Starting point is 00:11:08 only some people at the White House have as well. And then there's people now that have full spectrum analysis understanding finally. Now, you just got to have so much experience, so much street smarts. You've got to be absolutely in the game. You have got to be studying every aspect, energy, society, culture, philosophy, sociology, anthropology. And my point is, is that I know exactly what's happening in the world right now. He knows everything.
Starting point is 00:11:41 So I suspect that Alex is ascribing some sort of meaning to the 39th day thing. Like, I can't not hear that in relation to the 40 days and 40 nights that Satan tempted Jesus. Oh, oh. Where on the cusp of the day that the devil retreated from Jesus and his temptations. Gotcha. I might be grasping at straws, but.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I didn't get that but the only 39 I can think of isn't the isn't the 39th step. That was a great movie, right? Maybe I think it was a Hitchcock Okay, it was pretty good. I don't know too much about him other than the birds they were It's all gone to them rope Didn't you do wrote about rear window? I've heard of it. Okay. I don't know if I've seen it So Alex doesn't also have a full spectrum knowledge about anything. He constantly gets basic facts wrong, often on purpose and gleefully falls for whatever dumb shit people he likes post on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So all this like you got to have street smarts, you got to be in the game, you got to study. It means nothing. No. All stupid. No, I don't. Here's the other thing. If you were trying to give him the most benefit of the doubt, I think you'd just start from, would it be possible to know this much? And I don't know if there's enough time in the day to read enough to have an actual picture. You know what I mean? That's very easily gotten around. God gives him immediate downloads of information, like, go to Gene Hackman. Yeah, but I can't trust those anymore. Those are gone to me. No, in theory they're completely accurate. Now they're even more accurate. That may be true,
Starting point is 00:13:15 yeah. Yeah, that's fair. So I don't know, I mean, it is less trustworthy in a sense, because now we have the problem of Alex as God's narrator. Here's what's even funnier about that it suggests that God is Actually trying to talk through Alex and Alex just will not let him mm-hmm absolutely not come on Buddy say what I want you to say no no no no that's not gonna sell sea moss No, but me telling everyone that you tell me what time it is the middle of the night that's gonna work that does it so Trump doing good. Sure. 39 days.
Starting point is 00:13:49 All great. Uh huh. Top 39 days of any president in history. Probably, uh, we've heard some numbers, right? Yeah. Do you remember what any of those numbers are? Several thousand out of 100. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yep. Continuing to be so good. Wow. Escalation. I just want to say this right up front. Trump is outperforming the doubt The best I could imagine let's have a benchmark of 100%
Starting point is 00:14:13 He's at a thousand And I am seeing a lot of people in the Liberty Movement who think this is a McDonald's drive-thru window And that we're gonna see just absolute of people in the liberty movement who think this is a McDonald's drive-through window and that we're going to see just absolute instant gratification. Well, you are getting instant gratification on hundreds of major fronts, but in going into the bureaucracy and shutting down the criminal operations and bringing them to justice, that is going to take some time. Oh yeah, everything's gonna take time now. Also, uh, McDonald's Trump? Eh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Nah. Yeah. That's nothin'. No. A thousand out of a thousand percent out of a possible hundred percent. So that's even more than a thousand out of a hundred right? Yeah, yeah, I find that clip to be very interesting in so far as it seems to have said everything While at the same time saying nothing at all. Yeah, it's instantly gratified. You're gonna have to wait for it though It's a hundred percent. It's a thousand percent. I don't know what that means. Like it's just nonsense
Starting point is 00:15:20 I think this is indicative of the belly of the whale that Alex is in because he didn't save Where we find ourselves so I have a framework for this now now we now we are On belly watch 2025 spit in God's face and now Doomed to say everything and nothing constantly. It would be great if this were an actual demarcation point, like the day that he spit in God's face and then the rest of his show forever has changed. That'd be great! Well, I... yeah. I don't know. I mean, we could pretend.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I think we should! I think we should! I think we should add a meta layer of also God is furious with Alex right now. And he needs to pay penance. Absolutely. In some way to get back on God's good graces. Yep. So in the real world, outside of our meta narrative, what is going on is that Pam Bondi
Starting point is 00:16:18 has done her PR stunt about the Epstein files. Yep. And Alex has got to save this thing somehow. There's no way to save it. Because it's gone bad. Yeah. And a lot of people on the right and dumb assholes on Twitter are pretty mad about how there's no new information.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Reasonably so. Yeah. The first thing I want to say is this. There is a massive deep state civil war with the legitimate elected government of Donald John Trump. You already know that. the the FBI. A lot of people like, Oh, Pam Bondi. She tried to scam us with this. No, they scammed her and she instantly flipped out about it. And sent
Starting point is 00:17:12 over 50 agents into the main FBI offices where they have all the documents. And they've been there since yesterday afternoon and are still there and there and there's some local press getting this loading trucks up. They're just taking everything because the feds they're who wait to hear who they are Will not help them and will not give them any in you and the head of it put in there by Ray
Starting point is 00:17:38 Said a month ago. We're gonna dig in and and resist Trump Now he should have been fired right there But they didn't they gave him rope and I've talked to people in the administration high up, and I've talked to other high up reporters that talked to Kosh yesterday. And he said, and they're fine if this gets out there because the deep state knows what happened to them now. This is a setup. They know they'd already destroyed most of the evidence and moved some of the other for insurance.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Now, they have them on obstruction. Wow. They have them on obstruction. Wow. Have them. That's big. So this is an advantage that Alex is able to maintain because he wasn't invited to the big Epstein PR event and because he didn't jump into it head first. He was out of the loop.
Starting point is 00:18:17 So his ego required him to come up with a secondary narrative about the story. And that's actually worked out to his benefit. However, the story he's trying to tell is a little convoluted. If you follow what he's saying, there's two main points in the narrative which are actually kind of contradictory. The first is that Pam Bondi was set up. She meant to do the real release of these files and it wasn't all a bait and switch PR stunt. This has to be the case because otherwise we're forced to accept that anything the Trump and his administration might do could be a Psy-Op that's being run on us. I feel like a certain amount of Psy-Ops are fine for Alex's audience, but at a certain point it becomes condescending.
Starting point is 00:18:54 You have a government that's tricking you for your own good, which I think they're supposed to be against. The second story is that it was all a trap so Cash Patel could get the Southern District caught up in an obstruction case. If this is true, then did Pam Bondi know that? Was she set up, or was she part of an elaborate ruse to entrap these rogue FBI agents? Further, if this is true, were the right-wing influencers she invited to the White House in on this, or were they duped?
Starting point is 00:19:21 If they were all being used for a PR stunt meant to set up these FBI agents, then it really becomes suspicious that they were bragging about the Epstein files release and how this was the most transparent administration ever. They're talking about how transparent the Trump administration is, but no matter what the situation is, they've been tricked into saying that, either by Pam Bondi or for their own good so they play their role in taking down these bad FBI agents. If this was an elaborate sting operation, then Pam Bondi wasn't set up. She deceived the right-wing media and the world, but it was for the greater good.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Alex is trying to use these two contradictory narratives to achieve his pretty difficult objective. He needs to keep the Epstein football in the air and present the image to the audience that Trump is totally releasing all that stuff while simultaneously trying to save Pam Bondi's image after the right-wing Twitter media has gotten rightly mad at her for this PR stunt that they were all used to pull off. So he has to try and thread that needle and it's pretty difficult. I, yeah, I think partially because what was the what's what's the win? Right? So in Blue Sky World, how does this go? You know, the plan from Pam Bondi to do this thing? How does this go the best? What's the best version of this? Right? I don't know about Pam Bondi, but I could ask, I could answer
Starting point is 00:20:46 based on Alex's version of things in terms of like Patel. Okay. And that is that they do this big distraction. And, and in the process say, Hey, everybody's got to give us everything they've got on the Epstein case. Then they trick the Southern District into withholding some stuff that they know they have. on the Epstein case. Then they trick the Southern District into withholding some stuff that they know they have, and now have caught them in a trap.
Starting point is 00:21:11 So the PR stunt release is kind of the public-facing moment when the trap was sprung on these Southern District folks. Okay, but like in the real world though, like what's the best version of this? Like they've got this plan, we're gonna do this thing, we're gonna pretend to, like already we're in the meeting and they're like what do you guys want to do? Well they're all yelling at us about Epstein, we said we would do something, here's what we do, we pretend to give it to them?
Starting point is 00:21:42 Right. Okay. In order to set up really giving it to them later, once we steal this stuff back from the Southern District. Is that really the plan? No, but it's a good storyline. Right. But this is what I'm saying about why it's hard to play defense for this. Even if I don't, I don't, it's just a bad idea all around. Like even if it had gone the best it could have, it was still a dumb idea.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Right. I would argue that in Alex's frame, everything went exactly how it was supposed to go. Right. Well, but it has to have already gone the way it was always supposed to go. Right. Right. Right. The whole PR release of this, all this information that's already public and shit all of that is For the idiots right there right that's for the dummies who are distracted easily right right? But I mean Pam Bondi gives these guys this does she then feel good
Starting point is 00:22:38 Does she get like accolades? Well, maybe or do have does everybody, oh, you were lying, right? She should, if what Alex is saying is true, feel good and get accolades. Right. However, Alex says that she was tricked and was furious after, which implies that she wasn't in on whatever is going on and isn't getting accolades. So she seems dumb. Every part of this is bad for just a regular government.
Starting point is 00:23:07 But you understand that Alex is in a difficult position. Right! Well, we are. Yeah. The training general's insane, apparently. Trying to defend a bunch of this stuff is very difficult. Yeah. And maintaining the premise that, like, you're in good hands is hard. And and that's you're gonna have to pretzel
Starting point is 00:23:27 it up a little. Yeah, because I can see no reasonable way to view what happened as anything other than oh, you guys were fucking with us. The government can't fuck with you like that. We can't have an April Fools on February. You know what I'm saying? Did you notice this year that April Fools came and went? Yes I did. It's great. It's glorious.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah. I think that people aren't into pranks right now. No, the whole world is of April Fools pranks, so why bother? Yeah. I feel like I've had much more of a... I've seen a lot more pranks happen in past years. Yeah, you can't really... There's nothing that you could convince me wasn't true now. I'd be like, yeah, that sounds right. Yeah so
Starting point is 00:24:08 There's other stuff that's going on. That's very exciting for Alex namely Zelensky is in town to visit Trump, okay? Trump is Effectively ending the Ukraine war as we speak He is publicly humiliating Zelensky. He publicly humiliated Kara Starmor. We have clips of that. He told him, you're the one started the war. We all know that, which is a fact.
Starting point is 00:24:38 They bragged about it. He said, you can't defeat Russia without us and we're not having a nuclear war to his face. Starmor basically pissed in his pants. Trump had the British flag flying upside down. The Union Jack. I mean, this is all deliberate. So let's get gets out of the vehicle just 30 minutes ago to meet Trump. Trump goes, Oh, look, you're dressed like a clown. Literally, tell him. Look at you, clown. So, it is true on some level that humiliating the leader of Ukraine and stopping any aid
Starting point is 00:25:12 going to them will help end the war in Ukraine, in as much as it helps Putin win it. If you understand Alex's call for peace as being rooted in a desire for the belligerent party to get its way, this all makes sense. When Trump greeted Zelensky at the White House, he said, you're all dressed up today, which I guess Alex has turned into you're dressed like a clown. Trump is like an inkblot test for people like Alex. They see what they want to see and repeat what they want to repeat out of it. And that's cool.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. I like a fictional canvas upon which we can all lot of production yeah projection So we get back to the pant bondi of it all mm-hmm and Alex scolds people who are her mad at her how a lot? Of people are spending their time saying oh, we're disappointed in Pam Bondi There's 39 days in
Starting point is 00:26:03 37 when this was going on. They have a government that when those shows up at these agencies in many cases, they won't even give them the computer codes when they're there lawfully. And then they have judges saying the US Treasury Secretary can't get computers. Of course, that got overwritten, but it took a week and a half by a higher level judge. So instead of focusing on the fact that of course they withheld all the stuff, focus on the fact that they've been exposed. Now, now, now, I'm getting to the big news now. Okay, the big news is you should look at this as a glass half full. Wow. Not a glass half empty empty you pessimistic fuck that's so sad
Starting point is 00:26:45 That's so sad. It's sad. It's sad because yeah Because like listen, that's what people that's what his hated center left people do like oh Don't be mad at Biden about this blah blah blah consider the difficulties of getting things done And I think that there is some value in that point I'm not to Alex right like fuck you He said that cash Patel was gonna release all of the Epstein stuff the first day first day. Yeah, absolutely Come on. That's what you do. You immediately go into fuck these people. Fuck you. Fuck everybody. Fuck the right fuck the left Fuck all of these fuckers, right? That's what you do
Starting point is 00:27:23 That's what you you'd expect that someone who is what Alex pretends to be would do. Yeah, not like, oh, but guys, maybe we'll- Half full glass. Listen, you wanna choose the lesser of two evils right now and what are you gonna do? You're gonna let somebody else do things? Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:27:40 It's not even the lesser of two evils. It's trust the power that's in place. Yeah, Yeah. It's a hey, they're not doing what they said and I said they would do Yep, give them time. They're gonna do it. Come on. Let them do it. Whatever you can trust them despite all available evidence So Alex said said in that last clip, but he has a big announcement And so here is what that is. Okay. Now. Here's the big announcement that I'll show it all to you It's been James Comey's daughter that has run all of the Jeffrey Epstein prosecutions and operations out of New York. the case. She ran the Giseline Maxwell show trial where they
Starting point is 00:28:27 limited what came out. And. She's the one on record over all the files. Including the whistleblowers have been there and seen them and all the whistleblowers told Bondi this came out last night. They have a bunch of the documents.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Of course they kept them wisely. So Comey thinks he destroyed it all or hit it all as his insurance policy, no, no, no, no, no. So his daughter was over raiding the big building in New York. I'd been there and covered it. We got type analysis. Jones visit Jeffrey Epstein's layer in New York. We got footage of it. And there's all these photos we at least have that came out court of giant filing cabinets of binders and huge stacks of VHS tapes and hard drives, whole rooms of it just there alone. And she ran the
Starting point is 00:29:25 operations in New Mexico sweeping it up in the Caribbean and little St. John's, Pito Island. So this is an absurd claim that Alex is making based on the idea that Comey's daughter ran all of this. Maureen Ryan Comey, she was a lead prosecutor on the Ghislaine Maxwell case. And so this is where this is spiraling from. The previous night to this episode, Jesse Waters had made this accusation on his Fox show and Alex is just repeating it because I guess whoever gets Tucker's time slot gets to set the talking points for dipshits. Maureen is an assistant US attorney in the Southern District of New York, but that doesn't
Starting point is 00:30:04 mean that she would be in a position to run any of these law enforcement operations. So it's just a wild exaggeration of her position. A lot of this is rooted in the fact that in her case against Maxwell, Maureen was given transcripts of Epstein's 2006 grand jury proceedings, which were not released publicly. People were obviously curious about why these transcripts were under seal even though they'd been released to a prosecutor, and this came to a head in July 2024 when these transcripts were made available. They're bad, obviously, and they show a flawed prosecution carried out against Epstein.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I have no interest in making excuses for that or equivocating, but there's no reason to assume Comey's daughter was involved in some kind of cover-up. That's a giant unearned leap solely meant to change the narrative after Pam Bondi got caught in a failed PR stunt that blew up in her face. So we're all we're pinning it all on Comey's daughter. I mean, yeah, aside from I guess I guess I don't care. You know, fuck her. But like, it's a systemic cover-up.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Like everybody's involved at this point. Right. I don't. They're involved in whatever capacity they're involved. Yeah. And you don't know that. No. You don't know what individual is engaged in what. Nope. And that's pretty difficult to suss out.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Right. What we do know is that Comey's daughter was a prosecutor in this case. Maxwell was charged and is in jail. So I think she's one for one in terms of these kinds of cases. Could be worse. Yeah. Could be worse. So I guess successfully prosecuting someone for the crime that they've committed is now
Starting point is 00:31:41 tantamount to making sure that these things don't get out. You're doing a cover up to make sure that... I don't go in for that. No, yeah. You can't... Yeah. No, that just doesn't make sense. Yeah. It's also like what you're saying is, you know, it's an important point. It's a distraction to point at her as opposed to looking at this holistically and what the systemic failures are that allowed this to happen and to be Failingly prosecuted. Yeah, it would be I mean, it's one of those things where it's like this is the the Like this is the the dessert of conspiracy theories is oh, thank God somebody fucked up as opposed to
Starting point is 00:32:29 Are you telling me that over a span of 30 years more? 50,000 people had an opportunity to do fucking anything about this and nobody did great cool sure you know yeah some With reason some with less reason. Whatever you like. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but that's that's why it's the conspiracy theorist dessert is also because a lot of the reality of this is kind of boring. Yeah. And a lot of those decisions are not flashy, interesting decisions. Some implicate people that maybe you don't want implicated. And it's not fun for a conspiracy theorist. It's fun when there's one person
Starting point is 00:33:09 and you can put devil horns on their picture. And that's what we're seeing with Comey's daughter now. Yeah, yeah, you can see kind of like, if the end of it is a lot of people without teams are gonna get fucked up then you can definitely see who's who turns immediately into team players you know like oh no no no we don't paint Bonnie can we can trust her on this one like no no you can't yeah and you know why she's not releasing everything I don't I you know
Starting point is 00:33:41 you can have you can have some ideas I don't know why exactly sure but like yeah It's there's inconvenience. That's the problem even more is that you don't know why exactly that's the problem Yeah, cuz the exactly is the problem the unknown unknown As Rumsfeld might as Rumsfeld might say so Rumsfeld used to be on Fox News a bunch when he was you know when? So, Rumsfeld used to be on Fox News a bunch when he was, you know, when murdering all those people. He was a little different. Oh, yeah. And Alex talks about how they're just him now.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Fox News is him. And suddenly it's hitting the news everywhere that, oh, it looks like FBI agents were involved with Crooks the shooter and GEO location information on his phone and cover-ups. It's all over Fox News right now. Oh, and the host is saying, looks like the government tried to kill Trump. Oh, you didn't think the only You know why Fox everybody's getting on board right now why the Fox show sound like me? Because we've won Oh, they could still kill Trump or even set a new coffer do anything but but they'll still be destroyed in the end. It's over.
Starting point is 00:34:47 You are beaten. It is useless to resist. Don't make me destroy you. So... That's where we are. That is kind of where we are. Mm-hmm. Alex is totally correct about one thing in that clip.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Fox News sounds like him now because he's won. He and the people like him have won the internal battle in right-wing media, and we see that playing out. Alex has demonstrated that there is no meaningful consequence for lying, and if you provide people with something they want, you can even just brazenly lie in ridiculous and contradictory ways. He and Tucker have shown that if you just steadfastly refuse to take any responsibility for anything you say, there's really not any punishment anyone can impose on you. Alex directly defamed the families of Sandy Hook victims and aided in fundraising for their harassment.
Starting point is 00:35:42 He engaged in very obvious obstruction of the process of the civil cases they brought against him to the point of abusing the bankruptcy system in an attempt to derail the process. He created new fake businesses to hide his revenue streams and made his moves incredibly obvious by doing things like having his dad or one of his employees be the new owner of something that his name legally can't be on. As it stands now, there really is no consequence. That isn't to say that these cases have been in vain or that meaningful things haven't come out of them, but in terms of what Alex does, he's suffered very little other than
Starting point is 00:36:14 temporary inconvenience, which may actually be a net positive for him because his business runs on persecution fantasies. The absolute worst case scenario for Alex right now is that he has to liquidate his assets and he gets to continue on doing his show under a new title under the umbrella of a dummy company that's outside the scope of collections. Meaningfully there's no actual consequence for him, only for the company Infowars or Free Speech Systems, and those companies don't really exist. The attention abuse model that Alex has pioneered has won out in his media space.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And the consequences of that are going to be something that we can't really be sure of, and we're going to be feeling it for a while. But he's right. He's right. He's demonstrated that there's no need to be responsible. Just speak freely. Do whatever you want. Yeah, there is something to be said about the irony of him being like ah They're setting them up for an obstruction charge when he should really be like laws are fake man. Mm-hmm laws aren't real At least some he knows damn well that some of them aren't right So that should probably be his lesson is like listen
Starting point is 00:37:18 You can just wear them down if you have just enough money you can wear them down and they'll give up They're quitters a A lot of people are. He's definitely found that to be the case in every situation prior to this. And this one is not finished yet. And I wouldn't say that they're quitters but the courts certainly are. We'll see what happens. So, Komi's daughter though. Her fault. Send her to the moon. She, well because the moon is gonna be built up by Right, all right. I got you. I'm son's fine. Yeah, she's she's behind everything Maureen Comey Who when she was literally just into the FBI and into the Justice Department
Starting point is 00:38:03 Prosecutor Assistant US Attorney the FBI and into the Justice Department. Prosecutor. Assistant U. S attorney. Beyond what behind the years snot nosed. I mean, she still looks like a 10 year old. She's magically given all the major pedo cases, not just Pete Eddie, not not just Epstein, not just
Starting point is 00:38:19 Ghislaine Maxwell. She's got dozens of them. I mean, you know when she gets given the case. It's when there are the other cases around the country that are being run by people that aren't corrupt, they follow their own and then take control of it. That's where they do their coverups is in New York. That's the real locust, the real mothership with the really nasty stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:42 the really nasty stuff. These. Trump is live with Zelensky right now. I think accidentally he almost said DC. Yeah, it had to stop himself. Yeah, he's talking about New York. I'm talking about New York. Yeah, shit. Yeah. So Maureen Comey does not get all the big pedophile cases,
Starting point is 00:39:00 but this is a fun game for Alex to play where he's creating a mockery of the idea of taking the exploitation of children seriously and is something that's more than just a political prop. Alex is saying that Comey is so young and looks 10, but she graduated from William and Mary College in 2010 before going to Harvard Law School. She's been with the US Attorney's Office for nine years, so she was about five years in when she took on the Maxwell case. She wasn't the only prosecutor in that case, but she did about five years in when she took on the Maxwell case. She wasn't the only
Starting point is 00:39:25 prosecutor in that case, but she did a good job in Maxwell serving a 20-year sentence in jail. This isn't the only case she's been involved with, but in December 2024 it was revealed that she would be joining the prosecution of the Diddy case, and there's some obvious parallels that you can draw. If you're someone who's looking for a prosecutor in New York who has experience with this kind of case, it seems like Maureen has a strong track record and is a good fit for the job. At the same time, I'm not an idiot, and there's probably a case to be made for nepotism playing some role in the fast-tracking of her career. But it's foolish to assume that that's the whole story.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Alex is treating that connection with her dad as the whole story, and then he's making up this salacious conspiracy story on top of that in order to exploit the feelings people have around the story. Right, right. Yeah. I had almost even left the nepotism part out because that's the real world shit. In this I'm assuming that this is like a big meeting at the top. Oh, we've got another blackball. Let's give it to Comey, right? That's the idea is that all around the... Oh, somebody's investigating in Southeastern New Mexico. We got to give it Comey in here. But no, because she's in the Southern District of New York. She's not doing cases in New
Starting point is 00:40:41 Mexico. That's what I'm saying. But his conspiracy is that they're taking cases from that kind of thing. Yes For her like that. I don't even know how that would work. No well What he thinks is going on is that there are all these cases and whenever they need a cover-up They create a case in New York in order for her to take over it. Okay in order to squash it, right? Basically, that's. That's the game he's playing. Gotcha. As opposed to she was involved in the prosecution of the Maxwell case and has experience in
Starting point is 00:41:12 this field. So if you're prosecuting the Diddy case, makes sense that you might have someone who's been in the territory before. You know Clarice Starling keeps getting called in to find where Hannibal is. There is, she has experience with the one thing that you really need right now. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. And Alex is all over the place. Like she's in the FBI and she's in, she's a lawyer. It's in the district. She's a district attorney. It feels like he's very, uh, very uncomplicated. It's a very situation
Starting point is 00:41:46 where you're like, oh, I need a cake. Who do you call? Somebody who is perhaps the boss of cakes. It's very simple. One to one. Well, you know, what about the ace of cakes? I mean, that's higher than the queen of cakes. I assume competing show with cake boss ace of cakes. I did not understand that no now. I'm confused Which one is related to the Comey family? Probably the cake boss well then there we go we got to go with that So Alex is really just repeating the stuff that was on like Jesse Waters show and then Dan Bongino He talked about this also Dan Bongino is a deputy head of the FBI now
Starting point is 00:42:24 So let's listen to this shithead. OK. But here's... Wait, and he still does the show? The daughter of Comey. Here it is. We have an update on that from The Telegraph. Turns out headline, evidence from Jeffrey Epstein's safe went missing after an FBI raid. Court hears in Ghilain Maxwell trial.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Folks, listen, I have over a decade of experience as a federal agent myself. Who cares? Look at me, experience. I'm just telling you for the proof-of-fide he's here, I have processed hundreds if not thousands of pieces of evidence throughout my law enforcement career. I don't know how you would lose evidence. Let me explain to you how evidence works. You survey search warrant in Jeffrey Epstein's house, and let's say, for example, you find videotapes or DVDs or whatever it may be.
Starting point is 00:43:21 You then take them. You tag them. You note where you found them. In many cases you take pictures, in most cases now you take pictures of where you found them. You catalog them in evidence envelopes so you can't tamper with them, right? You seal the envelope, you sign the envelope. It then comes back with you in custody and it goes back typically to, well, the Secret Service to an evidence vault, which is a big like bank safe in the office. To go in the evidence vault, you have to sign in. To sign out the
Starting point is 00:43:50 evidence, you have to sign out the specific piece of evidence. How the hell do you lose evidence in a case this big? Is it lost? Was it lost? Do you get what I mean? I don't know. I'm just telling you, I've never seen evidence. You know what I did see evidence lost? Seriously, sadly, during 9-11, our office was in 7 World Trade Center, the Secret Service
Starting point is 00:44:18 Office. 7 World Trade came down. I promise we lost a lot of evidence. That's the only time I've ever seen evidence lost. All right, let'll stop right there and Who did that you did? Who did that? Who ran that I just showed you the articles
Starting point is 00:44:40 Marine coming she did 9-eleven or did Boncino do 9-eleven to hide all of his evidence. I have no idea I'm very confused. Yeah, also I got really scared when you were like, wait, does he still do his show? Because I was like, maybe he does. I don't know. He does. His show has been replaced by a show called The Vince Show. Oh, OK. So he's I think he's his show is done for now. Oh, I was I was actually pretty I think that's an old clip because the Telegraph article that he's talking about is from like 2021. So I think that was previous. Gotcha. Because I was thinking that actually relieved me quite a bit because if I'm going back to the olden times of government, which is how we're kind of at right here, I would prefer to have a loyal servant rewarded with a fiefdom if that servant is not really interested in
Starting point is 00:45:24 governing. You know what I'm saying? I want them to be more interested in taking a bath. Then I don't have to worry about it too much. I think that that is what I feel about some ambassadorships maybe. Right. But maybe not deputy head of the FBI. Well, I would prefer that not be the case, but it would be a lot easier to eat if he
Starting point is 00:45:44 was also doing a show and you're like, oh, okay, well, at least he's just, he's just doing the show. I think it, well, I think it introduces a lot of really dicey possibilities of the deputy head of the FBI during a propaganda bullshit talk show. Yeah, that sounds great. Yeah. I don't know. So anyway, these people are frauds and they have to know it.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah. There's quote unquote missing Epstein evidence, are frauds and they have to know it. Yeah, there's quote unquote missing Epstein evidence like some CDs and hard drives, but it didn't go missing from the police lockup or something like that. What happened is that Epstein's home in New York was raided in 2019. But special agent Kelly McGuire testified that the FBI didn't have the warrant to remove his property so they couldn't legally take this stuff. They photographed these things but they would have been committing a crime if they took his property which could have risked invalidating them as evidence that then could be introduced in court.
Starting point is 00:46:35 They went through the process of getting a warrant but when they returned to pick up this potential evidence it was gone. The image that people like Alex and Bongino are trying to present is that the missing evidence is stuff that the FBI or I guess now Maureen Comey seized and they were aware of it but then it went missing from their custody. This is meant to be an obvious case of a cover-up because how can evidence go missing? You hear Bongino using his bona fides as evidence that he knows that this thing can never happen, evidence just doesn't go missing. But if they were at all familiar with this case, they would have to know that this is
Starting point is 00:47:07 just a misrepresentation. It's just impossible to take the story seriously at all and use deceptive tactics like this. It's a necessary indicator of deception. Yeah, no. I mean, the irony is I think if I'm doing his job, I'm saying I've been a federal for forever. Why was the warrant written the way it was? That kind of thing to give them a warning to do that.
Starting point is 00:47:36 That's an angle that you can take there. It's possible one you could take, but not this more rooted in reality. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wouldn't be able to answer that question off the top of my head. Which is the idea. That's the point, right? Exploring the question of why the warrant was written the way it is is a productive path of inquiry as opposed to where's all this missing stuff? Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:48:01 And pretending that the chain of custody and evidence lockers were tampered or whatever, you're just creating fantasies. Yeah. Yeah. So, when Alex said that this is the most important broadcast ever, I thought the reason was because this is the day that Trump insulted Zelensky to his face. Right. Oh, I remember that.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah. But that hadn't happened yet. Oh, wow All right Alex was just excited about trying to defend the Pam Bondi stunt and the fact that Trump insulted Zelensky when he showed up It had not even happened yet that they got into a fight in the Oval Office or wherever the fuck they were good stuff But clips are starting to come out of oh boy about an hour ago when Zelensky arrived at the White House, Trump goes, oh look at your little outfit, ha ha. Well you're so dressed up today, ha ha kid. That's what Trump does when he hates your guts.
Starting point is 00:48:59 They weren't carrying the press conference live on national TV, but people were shooting clips and getting it out. We have those and the crew started coming in about 10 minutes ago. Hang on. Hey, you need to see these. Now National News has gone to it because the
Starting point is 00:49:13 Linsky is melting down on air, freaking out and Trump is just spanking spanking. We basically has him over his knee spanking him right now. He's a little lying, corrupt, cokehead, weasel. Gay prostitute, totally compromised. So the media wasn't ignoring the Trump and Zelensky meeting. That's just something that Alex is throwing in for texture.
Starting point is 00:49:39 In reality, this was one of the most insane and embarrassing meetings I've ever seen between a president and another world leader. I get that Trump and his base love Putin and hate Zelensky, and that's fine, it's their right to have that opinion, but the behavior that Trump engaged in was fucking childish. Watching this exchange between Trump and Zelensky, I felt gross. I don't have a particular connection to Zelensky as a person, but I do believe that he's the leader of a country that was invaded and has essentially zero power to stop the war outside of capitulating to that invading power. I think that his side is right in the conflict, and I think that as a superpower on the world
Starting point is 00:50:14 stage, we have a responsibility to defend countries that are in Ukraine's position, generally speaking. We can argue about that, and adults can have different perspectives on the US and our international responsibilities. That's fine. But what happened in this meeting was petulant lashing out and baby stuff. JD Vance scolded Zelensky for not thanking Trump for the US providing aid to Ukraine, and things just kind of spiraled out of control. That'll happen. It was a pure, like, you haven't prostrated yourself enough in front of Trump
Starting point is 00:50:45 and now we're going to humiliate you kind of situation, and you can see how that plays into Alex's interests, but it sends a horrible message to the rest of the world. Trump doesn't act that way with Kim Jong-un, for example. Like, after they met in 2019, Trump said they quote fell in love. The democratic states of the world understand this messaging, and that blow up that Trump and Vance had at Zelensky may end up being a giant turning point of international relations where the rest of the world just realizes that we aren't a reliable participant in world affairs anymore. Like I saw that. Friends, I'm going to have to say that we're
Starting point is 00:51:20 a little late to that party. Well, I, sure, maybe we haven't been a reliable participant in a while, that's fair, but I think that the optics of that make it pretty clear to just about everybody. Sure. I don't want to agree with Alex that it's like this is a crazy, world-changing moment, but it has the feeling of something that could
Starting point is 00:51:45 be in a textbook. It really did feel that way. A world leader who is at war being treated like a real dick publicly by the president. Doing that in private is one thing. I'm going to say this, and I mean, feel free to take it however you like, but that won't show up in a textbook because all of the other times it's happened aren't in textbooks. You understand? It's happened a bunch of times between world leaders.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Well, Bush threw up on that guy. We all know about that. That was HW. Definitely did that. That was a Japanese ambassador, right? Yeah. That was fun. Or was it the Prime Minister? that was a Japanese ambassador, right? Yeah, that was fun I don't I don't was it the Prime Minister. I might have been the full-on Japanese Prime Minister I don't think that I can call to mind
Starting point is 00:52:32 Many examples of a president acting like this. Hmm Can you? I mean, I suppose you'd have to go back further than like our lifetime. You know go for it Uh, well, you've got Jackson for sure. Okay, that's way back. Okay I mean what part of American history are we like, you know what I'm saying? Like how old is America are we allowing it to be we're pretty close to 250 I think right? So that's about halfway or no that was about 60 years in that was still that was first third Well, okay. Yeah, I'm not gonna fully disagree with you But I'm going to say that that's not modern history and I think that that is a little different. All right
Starting point is 00:53:14 Okay, mass media didn't really exist in the time of Jackson. Let me ask you another question Does it matter whether or not we're on the same team in a conflict. Yes. Okay. So if somebody's on... I think you could... Well... So if you're talking... Depends if it's like a jocular familiarity that you're being a dick or not.
Starting point is 00:53:34 All right. All right. But say we're Afghanistan in the 80s and somebody's like, hey, go fuck yourself. Are we cool with that? Is that embarrassing or is that fine? You know what I'm saying? Did you watch this exchange? I didn't know okay, so you don't have a lot of context For the exchange as it happened to be able to compare it to things in the past No, okay, well we're gonna listen to it. We'll revisit this line of thought that you have after we hear it sure
Starting point is 00:54:02 So Alex plays a little bit of a clip of Vance talking to Zelensky and he gets bored because it's not electric enough. For four years in the United States of America, we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talked tough about Vladimir Putin and then Putin invaded Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. The path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy. We tried the pathway of Joe Biden, of thumping our chest and pretending that the President of the United States' words mattered more than the President of the United States' actions. What makes America a good country is America
Starting point is 00:54:42 engaging in diplomacy. That's what President Trump is doing. Can I ask you? Sure. Yeah? Yeah. OK. So he occupied our parts, big parts of Ukraine, parts of East and Crimea.
Starting point is 00:54:59 So he occupied it on 2014. So during a lot of years, I'm not speaking about just Biden, Trump. He occupied it on 2014. So. During a lot of years, I'm not speaking about just by them, but those time was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now President Trump and the
Starting point is 00:55:20 arguments about the start and Trump will stop him. But during 2014, nobody stopped him. He just took your hair, here, here. Pause for a minute. Move that forward a little while when the next fight starts, but we have the earlier stuff. Now, get ready for this. And we got to get all this out on X right now. I mean, I know we're streaming live on X, by the way. Oh man, people are going to love this on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:55:36 But yeah, Alex has only heard about this because it's happening while he's on air. It's unfolding. Right, and he's listening to this exchange and it's kind of boring. Sure. Because he's heard that there It's unfolding. Right. And he's listening to this exchange and it's kind of boring. Sure. Because he's heard that there's a fight. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:49 That happens. Right. Right. So he hears Zelensky bringing up 2014 and being this isn't about Biden or. He wants to hear somebody yell World Star. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Gotcha. And so he's like, let's go a little bit ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get to the good part. And so here's some fireworks. Put this headline out on the live feed. Watch live as Trump puts Zelensky over his knee and publicly spanks him saying quote, you don't have the cards to dictate policy, quote, you should be more thankful. I mean, I've got the transcripts here, but I haven't even the
Starting point is 00:56:25 I've got the transcripts here, but I haven't even seen it yet. This is insane. Lee good. A little arrogant drug addict. Trump's pissed at it because he lies to him on the phone agrees of this says he never did. Trump has it all recorded in
Starting point is 00:56:42 transcripts. Share the live feeds right now. Reload Jones folks share him now. Get those the the the the the the the the the
Starting point is 00:57:00 the the the the basically has him over his knee spanking him, says you don't have the cards to dictate policy, you should be more thankful, a ceasefire is inevitable. Go to you don't have the cards, you should be more thankful, and ceasefire is inevitable. Look at this. I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if you are not strong... Mr. President, Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now,
Starting point is 00:57:35 you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the President for bringing it into this conflict. Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have? I have been to... Come once. I have actually watched and seen the stories and I know what happens is you bring people to a propaganda tour, Mr. President. Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military?
Starting point is 00:58:02 No, do we have problems? And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country? A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. Sure. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Even you. But you have nice ocean and don't feel now. But you will feel it in the future. God bless, God bless, God bless, you will not have a war. Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. I'm not telling you.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Because you're in no position to dictate that. Remember this. You're in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel. We're gonna feel very good. You will feel influence. We're gonna feel very good and very strong. You're right now not in a very good position. You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position, and he's happened to be right about it.
Starting point is 00:58:56 You're not in a good position. You don't have the cards right now. With us, you start having all the cards. Right now, you don't have your playing cards. You're playing cards. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country. It's back you far more than a lot of people said they should have. Holy shit said thank you? Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Holy shit, right. This is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. I just love Trump even more. That is the coolest thing. So there's a couple of important points that I want to bring up about this clip. Sure. The first is that Alex writes a headline about the video he's about to play without ever having seen it.
Starting point is 00:59:44 This is indicative of his style. It's about grabbing attention more than it is about conveying information and anyone who believes otherwise just hasn't watched his show. The second is Alex's response after that video. He loves it, because it reflects a power imbalance that he really likes. Zelensky is in a very vulnerable situation. He's the head of a country that has been invaded by a much stronger and larger country, and his people are being killed. He's in a position where he could end the conflict, but it would likely come at the
Starting point is 01:00:13 expense of even more of his people, and likely the autonomy of the country as a whole. Essentially he can make the war stop when he wants, but that doesn't guarantee Ukraine's safety or even existence into the future. Without US aid, he has a very hard time making any other decision than capitulating to the larger power. Trump and Vance know this in the context of this meeting. They know that Zelensky literally cannot tell them to fuck off without putting the lives of his people at a much greater risk.
Starting point is 01:00:41 They can act however they want, and he has to take it, because if he blows up at them, he does so at the cost of his own people's lives. When Trump talks to leaders like Putin and Kim Jong-un, this dynamic doesn't exist, because they don't rely on the US to keep their public safe, which they don't really care about anyway. Russia and North Korean relations with the United States are bad, so either of them could just tell Trump to fuck off, and he would end up looking weak, so he's very nice to them. He licks their boots, one might even say.
Starting point is 01:01:11 However, in the context of this relationship, Trump has the ability to act like a big bully, knowing that the other party doesn't have the power to stand up to him. Alex loves this shit, because ultimately he's a bully too, and he believes that might makes right, so long as might is defined in such a way that he feels ultimately he's a bully too and he believes that might makes right so long as might is defined in Such a way that he feels like he's always part of the mightiest group It's coward shit and Alex's response to it is very telling but you you hear that that's not No, it's that's like that's letter writing shit. That was back before people could see it You know, that's that's the type of shit you would say to other world leaders whenever you
Starting point is 01:01:46 Never had to worry about like oh, this is gonna get out my dear sir live television is a whole different story Yeah, nobody's doing that shit, right? That's that when I when I said we'll revisit this well, yeah No, they've been that's on like a lot of I can't think of a parallel. Ah like a lot of I can't think of a parallel ah no in the modern history nope it's something that's public like it's TV like I said earlier if this argument was happening in private trip whatever no if it was happening in the UN it would be understand like this type of shit has happened in the UN plenty of times I'm sure act like fools but it's never the one in charge. It's just a bunch of ambassadors talking shit with each other, you know? Yeah. And I think it's I think it's
Starting point is 01:02:30 degrading to us even like, okay, whatever fart. So you had a fart. Yes. Alex busted. Yeah. Good for him. Alex has a mental orgasm for him This is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. I just love Trump even more And the president who's trying to save your country Oh my god, excuse me. That was with Obama who gave you sheets and I gave you javelins Yeah, I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks Obama gave you sheets and I gave you javelins. Yes. I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks. Obama gave you sheets. In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins. You got to be more thankful because let me tell you, you don't have the cards.
Starting point is 01:03:19 With us, you have the cards. But without us, you don't have any cards. Thank you very much. It's an honor to have President Zelensky of Ukraine and we've been working very hard very close so we've actually known each other for a long time we've been dealing with each other He pauses when he says this he fires an edible I just had the biggest mental orgasm of my life yeah man he busted gross up. Gross. Up in the head. Gross. Do you know the brain is the biggest erogenous zone in the body?
Starting point is 01:03:47 I've heard, I've heard. I didn't want to hear it out of his mouth. No. And honestly, I usually think people are speaking in metaphor when they say something like I just had a mental orgasm. I think he, yeah. Alex, I think we might have to take this a little more seriously. I agree.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Because he proceeds from this point to make noises. Does he start smoking a cigarette? No, I don't I don't know if he's smoking a cigarette but he does make noises for two minutes. Oh my god I just had the biggest mental orgasm of my life. I Mean you think senior team won the Super Bowls fun? I know you're saying the exclusiveness he's High-level contact with the people inside the New York office where the raids are going on you're gonna get the exclusives coming up next hour Folks I'm actually so much so much indoor for the stumpin right now No stop somebody stop him Indorphin's dumping right now. No, stop. Somebody stop him. This is what they must've felt like
Starting point is 01:05:10 when the Death Star blew up. That was real. You know? This Death Star just blew up. You see, it's a mental bullying they had, a trance people were under, and it was already breaking, but there They were breaking the glass. They were all bullying. They had a
Starting point is 01:05:26 trance. People were under and it's. It was already breaking. That was still a little missed. It's like crystal clear. You can see a trillion miles right now. Oh my God. Thank you, God. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho
Starting point is 01:05:44 ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho Oh, this is so good. Oh! Oh! Oh! Yes! Oh, yeah! Oh, Jesus! Oh, God! Oh, it's so hot! Oh, God! Oh, God!
Starting point is 01:05:52 I may just loop those clips for the rest of the show! I don't know. Oh god, so good! Ah! Ah! Woo! Sorry. Yeah, so I think he busted. Yep. This is the button, okay, so here's your button for this, because I think a lot of people, the quick and dirty ways to do they all have what he's having. Terrible.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Overplayed. Done. Right? Your button for this is Rex turns and looks at his mom and she goes, yep every time. Mm-hmm. Sure. Yep. Not bad. Yep So, yeah, there's a lot of noises He's feeling good. I don't know if that's good. Mm-hmm. I don't know what feeling that I think that's a feeling of excitement Perhaps ecstasy, but I don't know if that's always a good feeling now. I think that there's an acknowledgement on some level and I think that Alex if he were
Starting point is 01:07:14 Forced to actually process like the way he's behaving and what he stands for I think Trump has just mirrored him a little bit in the terms of like, if you're a baby in an adult body, people can't stop you. Like if you just act like a baby, but you have the force of a human adult, like people just they don't know what to do with that. I mean they could stop you, but they don't, which is amazing. Right. And Alex has certainly illustrated that through the last long time in his life.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Sure. And Trump is now doing that in terms of international relations. The Death Star of people acting like adults is blown up. Yeah. I mean, I think for the longest time we were like, ah, you can't, people aren't babies. You have to not believe people are babies. Because if you don't believe people are babies Then you can use words all the time right, but then once you find out some people are babies
Starting point is 01:08:10 Words don't always work so for people who think you can only use words. Ah they're fucked. Sorry You're gonna get your ass beat by a baby. So good luck to you Yeah, you're just running around until you run into that violent Baby, if you if you had any number of skills that weren't just talking you could fight back against a giant baby But apparently nope you know I was thinking about zombies ate my neighbors Wait was that the video game or is that a book series that it's a video game okay from the Super Nintendo did they win No, and they're I guess
Starting point is 01:08:45 there are zombies in it but there's a whole bunch of other kind of monsters okay and one of them one of the bosses mm-hmm so you have to save your neighbors from all these monsters otherwise zombies will have eaten your neighbors right right titular game and one of them is a baby that's walking around big baby old baby dead baby just a baby just regular baby? That's one of the victims neighbors that you need to save. Oh, okay. You need to save the baby. Right. Gotcha. But there's a boss that's a giant baby. See, there we go. Right. Now you're confused. Do I save the giant baby or just the little baby? Well, you have to kill the giant baby in order to turn it back into a
Starting point is 01:09:19 regular baby to save. That's a big leap of faith. You're going to have a... It's going to be hard. regular baby to save. That's a big leap of faith. You're gonna have, it's gonna be hard. How about we put it to you this way, right? And it's like dropping milk on you from its bottle. If somebody just said, oh hey, in order to make that baby a regular baby again, you have to kill it,
Starting point is 01:09:37 I don't think you should just believe that person. They do not have any evidence that that will turn it back into a regular baby. But what if you're being chased around by like werewolves and draculas and big spiders? Then I suggest you have larger problems than a big baby. Not when that big baby shows up. That is the biggest problem. I still don't think you can trust the person who's just saying it'll go back to... if somebody
Starting point is 01:10:01 was like, hey, you got to kill that baby even if it doesn't go back to normal. Let me tell you about this. Yeah. No one is telling you you've got to kill the baby to turn it back into a normal Baby, okay, you are just trying to kill assuming that you're gonna kill this baby. Yeah, yeah, okay It just so happens that it turns back into a regular baby afterwards. Is that great? I knew I was gonna do that the whole time. Yeah, that's what you say You're setting out to kill this huge baby. Gotcha. Okay, cuz it's stomping all over everybody As long as we're all aware of what we're doing on that day Yeah, that's what I think is important anyway. That's a fun game. I was thinking about
Starting point is 01:10:33 Should play that on the virtual console on the switch Absolutely, so anyway these are the kind of thoughts you have when Alex just makes noises for long stretches Yeah, that's fucked up And so he mentioned there that there's like a FBI whistleblower that he's gonna talk to yeah And so he talks about that a little bit more while he's continuing to make noises Thanks for that thanks that cold open Recently I can't tell you about yet. They didn't know other FBI agents had all the stuff they destroyed. Trump's already got it.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Oh, God. I've been fighting these people for 35 years, folks. And this is like I've been swimming 50 miles man and I finally got to land. I've never felt like this in my life. This is not an act folks. I can't control myself. Okay, just tear those clips again. I really believe when people say I'm not doing an act when they're really doing an
Starting point is 01:11:46 act. Yeah. It's convincing. I, so I've read about these guys and no judgment, but they, their kink is like really getting their balls smashed. Like just with. Cock and ball torture kind of thing. Heavy, just really heavy smashing the balls.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And like I imagine that's the sound of the feeling that you're looking for right like a Combination of like this is what I want, but also this is maybe the worst pain I've ever experienced in my life sure like a whole swirl of we take it away from like ball torture or whatever It's like jumping into ice water or something like that you know I Could have chosen ice water that is a good point that is a good point there's like an exhilaration of like surrender to some overwhelming sensation sure sure sure sure I guess that's what Alex is trying to recreate okay or the appearance of that yeah he's trying to
Starting point is 01:12:38 recreate all right it's unconvincing and he's a terrible actor yeah he is so it ends up sounding like this I think somebody should smash his balls. And then we'll get a good take out of that. Give him the old Belvedere treatment. Absolutely. Yeah, that's what you need for a good take, buddy. So Alex has some guests on the show, and I don't particularly care. One of them is Jeremy Brown, who's a January 6th rioter who Trump pardoned.
Starting point is 01:13:04 And in the process of pardoning him for what he did on January 6th rioter who Trump pardoned and in the process of pardoning Him for what he did on January 6th Yeah He ended up getting pardoned for a separate gun charge where police found that he had six guns in his home Which he was not legally allowed to have because he was a felon sure a couple of the guns he had Like a modified AR-15 and sawed-off shotgun would be illegal for him to have even if he wasn't a felon sure but oh well He also possessed documents he was improperly storing from back when he had previously been a member of US Special Forces.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Great. And grenades he was found to have stolen from the FBI. Cool. And all that got wiped away because Trump January 6th. That's fucking great. So that's cool. So that guy, also Oathkeeper, also Alex interviews that FBI whistleblower that he was mentioning is a guy named Garrett O'Boyle who was suspended by the FBI in 2022 for leaking sensitive information
Starting point is 01:13:51 to Project Veritas, which he was accused of lying to Congress about, is given of that information. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Allegedly some of the information he leaked was part of an ongoing investigation, which could have the effect of tampering with the case. Anyway, he's been the star of right-wing media spaces ever since because of the FBI whistleblowing. He's been pretty cool. And I don't really care about all this nonsense because Alex has another guest. I've got one. Okay. I don't give a shit about what he has to say about what he wants to
Starting point is 01:14:19 talk about. Meaningless to me. But I want to know the feeling of being Jeremy Brown like staring down the barrel of the rest of your life. The sawed off shotgun of the rest of your life. The rest of your life is laid out in front of you. Like it has been signed, sealed, delivered. It is there. You are going to be in a hole forever. I tried to overthrow the government. And that I was found to be in possession of stolen grenades, illegal guns, and classified information that I shouldn't have had. And if I am in possession of all of those things, I am not in the possession of good
Starting point is 01:14:51 behavior. So I will not be getting out of this prison early. And if anything, probably going to have some years tacked on. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You're looking at a Ghislaine Maxwell sized sentence, probably. He's going to be an old man.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And then all of a sudden sudden fucking get out of jail. A literal, not figurative. You really expect like, okay. Get out of jail free. I think that I'm probably gonna get away with the rioting the Capitol thing. Some of it. Probably. I'm looking at other people getting away with it. I'm thinking yeah, I'll probably get away with that.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Trump's let out the Proud Boys and Joe Biggs and all that so I'm probably cool right I probably am still in trouble about the grenade still doing five to ten for explosives then I've got another like ten years of probation so they're gonna check to see they can do a wellness check they can see if I've got guns on my property at any point in time and then to walk outside and just be like this is crazy you know those sounds Alex was making earlier It would make sense for him to make those noises Absolutely, like I listen I should not be free, but I want to know what that feels like it's probably it's got to be the best feeling
Starting point is 01:15:55 Like getting kicked in the balls I assume It's got to be the best like I winning the lottery is fine But that's going from neutral to positive to go from the fuck to go from hell to just being like normal. That's crazy Yeah, that's crazy So I don't really care about either of these interviews because like I said, there's another guest. Yeah, and it's a puppet Fuck you Wait, is it Owen Troyer? No, god damn it
Starting point is 01:16:25 What what fucking puppet is it? I guess there's a puppet that goes around and argues with protesters or something like that. Ugh, triumph the shitty comic dog. Kind of, yeah. And so Alex has this puppet on. God damn it. And he's trying to do a bit.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Oh no. With the guy. Of course he is. And here's how to do a bit. Oh no with with the guy of course he is and here's how that goes, okay? Edgar I Am William the straight frog I am very proud of the work. You're doing the humans need our help They're up against not just zombies of the New World Order, but other demonic forces That's why the rise of animated puppets truly would souls like Pinocchio for his good works. You will be knighted soon. You will be given the power of
Starting point is 01:17:14 real life. Your work is incredible. What do you think of the FBI mutiny and refusing to give up with the Jeffrey Epstein information and now the FBI raid on the FBI in New FBI is now reporting on the FBI mutiny and refusing to give up with the Jeffrey Epstein information and now the FBI raid on the FBI in New York. What are you expecting to happen? And what is your overall report card on Donald
Starting point is 01:17:34 Trump during this historic day 39? Uh golly, I don't know. Look I'm so overcome by that display. I just want to tell you not to quit your day job, Alex. You got a big skill stack. I don't think puppetry is one of them. Don't be offended. Put that green master down. Don't make me destroy you. Oh, yeah, take the number.
Starting point is 01:17:52 You don't know the power of the dark side. Join me, Edgar. I know the power of Alex Jones. Bring him back, you boring gay frog. And I will complete your training. No, I don't need training. I don't even have the groin. I can't pee. Don't even worry about training. I am going to give you life
Starting point is 01:18:11 All right, I have summoned you here for a purpose What is it? Is it this frog stick? Let me guess let me guess free me Summons Edgar free me to be the first. Free me from this pit! In front of my hands. Uh, I forgot the question. Can you repeat it? I'm sending it to you to-
Starting point is 01:18:34 No! Edgar. I don't got no mind. Edgar. Okay. Yeah. Did Obi-Wan ever tell you what happened to your father? You are joking. Oh God, I don't think I have a father. My origin story is...
Starting point is 01:18:46 No. Oh my God. I am your father. Oh my God. That is painful. You kind of get the sense that... I didn't look into it at all because I don't care. It's a guy who does puppet YouTube stuff for probably rage bait purposes. But he actually seems like he probably has like an ability to roll with an interview
Starting point is 01:19:07 Like he's got some chops He's done a few improv classes for me because he's gotta be out there doing the puppet shit with the people who are he's having These interviews with yep. It's gonna be able to respond. I know a lot of that's probably editing, but not all of it And your scene partner being Alex who's trying to do a Darth Vader as a straight frog. What a disaster. Wow. It's impressive how bad that is. I've never met or okay, I've never been to any small improv theater that did not desperately need every single dollar that they could trick out of somebody into buying classes from, right?
Starting point is 01:19:47 And even they would be like, Alex, you can't come here anymore, buddy. No. You can't do this. You gotta go. You're ruining it for the rest of the people who work at offices. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:58 This is awful. Yeah, I think that the guy was trying so subtly to be like, this is a dead end. Stop, stop. This is a dead end, Alex. You can't, one, this is a dead end stop stop This is a dead end Alex you can't one This is a scene that you've negated by suddenly becoming Darth Vader right and now you're doing lines from Darth Vader am I supposed to react? As though I am Luke Skywalker you were trying to do some kind of weird spiritual Callback to that or some of the voice and the character and then you became literal with it yep
Starting point is 01:20:24 But like I think that this guy has enough sense to be like, I'm a fucking puppet. Shut up. Stop it. Yeah. Stop this. Yeah. If we, if we do this, there's no off ramp. No. You have to play your part in this exchange or else it's, it's, it's dead in the water. Yeah. And it is dead in the water. You have to, he, yeah, it's a he's left with one option or he's left with two options
Starting point is 01:20:49 It's been whittled down perfectly to the I guess I'll just go or Alex you need to stop this bit. I will remove the puppet from my hand and I will talk to you like a person You've got to stop buddy. Yeah, you know like that's it. Well like there's that that triumph bit where he goes to the like the Star Wars Line and there's a Lord of the Rings guy. Yeah, who like does a hand puppet to try and talk back to him Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that only works because triumph just is really mean to him, right so this bit could work if
Starting point is 01:21:24 Alex allowed the insults to exist, but instead he just powers forward with his Darth Vader impression. Yeah. It's it's rough. The the yeah, he can't. I mean, even even the choice of character, even the choice of Darth Vader is a signifier of I cannot submit myself to a ribbing. I can't be the one who's being bullied. I cannot do it. The position I must exist in in this scene is super powerful and the only power that you have is being bestowed upon you by me.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Yep. It's bad. It's bad for comedy. It's bad for everything. Everything. I think he's forgotten about Gene Heckman. I think I forgot about Gene Heckman, which I guess is the advantage of living through his eyes is like every day is a new day is a is a trite thing that people say. Maybe it is. Yeah. I mean, like he complains
Starting point is 01:22:20 about how the globalist think you all have the memory of a goldfish. But every day has an entirely new continuity to it. We are no longer tortured about 200 prophetic dreams about Gene Hackman. And now we're excited about defending Pam Bondi and having a mental orgasm about Zelensky. And then interviewing a fucking puppet. Yep. I don't even, you know, and like knowing sleep signs, you know, like I don't even know how long it takes me to get to 200 REM cycles to have a dream. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:56 Like, cause it's not every night. And it can't be for him either. No, and you have dreams that you don't remember. And so for him to be alleging that there's 200 dreams that he remembers absurd would imply that there's probably 400 tons yeah the stuff that he doesn't remember just and then to just I'm going to be a straight frog. That's it That's what we've got. I'm interviewing a puppet hoping to get some views from whatever audience this puppet has I remember I remember so many times like watching any kind of a puppet hoping to get some views from whatever audience this puppet has.
Starting point is 01:23:25 I remember so many times watching any number of programs, reading anything, all of these people harkening back to like, oh, if only the children knew what it was like to become an adult. If only they could hang on to their innocence. If only they could just recognize what they have now and value it for what it is. And it's like, no, you shouldn't, because that's what happens. Alex is what happens. Don't value that shit. Grow up, asshole. Yeah, keep your inner child and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Keep it in. Sure. But yeah, if you're Peter Pan and you live in the unfortunately bad real world. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta go back to Never Neverland, buddy. Yes. You can't live with us. No.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Sorry, Alex. We're not for you. No. But like, that's the fucking problem is that if he actually were that Peter Pan, I would welcome him into our world. In as much as like, if on this episode, he was like, oh God, Trump is talking to Zelensky, but I can't focus because of Gene Hackman.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Right, right, right, right. He was actually that. I would think that was great. If he was actually tortured by his own like failings And there was internal continuity and consistency Yeah, then that would be fun even if he was like even if he treated it as a meta thing that even if he was faking It but he added to his character like the the expression of this character will also have a Subtext of being tortured by his
Starting point is 01:25:05 failure to follow God forever. You know, like, and this is the moment that it happens and there's going to be tinged there forever. That would be amazing. No, but there's an Ebola outbreak going on in Denver. We've got the annual Big Balls Award. No! No!
Starting point is 01:25:20 All of this stuff, who cares? You have failed the Lord. Yeah. Anyway, um, we'll cares you have failed the Lord. Yeah. Yeah anyway We'll be back We'll see if Gene Heckman plays into the future, but I hope he does I do too I'm never gonna forget this I probably will forget this but I'm gonna try and keep I'm gonna try and remember it Yeah, as best I can I I feel like one of our biggest challenges is remembering all of the stuff That's happened like this. Yeah that we've been like well, there's no way I'll ever forget that.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Yeah, we just move along because Alex, he just forgets all of his own lore. He's got a power. But this Gene Hackman thing, I think we really got to, we got to stick with it. Because I think there is something to the idea that he's been in a belly of a whale since resisting the call of God. I think that's our 2025. We gotta figure out something to do with the whale. 2025 is the whale. That's my premise that I have.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Alex is stuck. We are the whale. He's Jonah. Yes. No, we're observing Jonah. Right. In the whale. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Who doesn't seem to know he's in a whale. Right, we're Stantler and Waldorfing Jonah in a whale. Yeah. Yeah, okay. And in some ways we're forced to live in the whale as well, we're Statler and Waldorfing, Jonah in a whale. Yeah. Okay. And in some ways we're forced to live in the whale as well because we're observing, but I don't know. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:26:31 Anyway, we'll be back. Until then, we have a website. T32 at knowledgefight.com. Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor. Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!
Starting point is 01:26:39 And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time robot. I'm a second-time robot. I'm a second-time robot. I'm a second-time robot. I'm a second-time robot. I'm a second-time robot. Yeah, yeah, and now here comes the sex robots Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex I'm a first-time caller I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you

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