Knowledge Fight - #103: January 17, 2016

Episode Date: November 20, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the January 17, 2016 episode of The Alex Jones Show. They are sort of still exploring why Alex became a mouthpiece for Donald Trump, though that question's been pretty well answered. On this episode, you'll also learn (a lot) about Alex's feelings about the Rapture, and whether or not Alex's dad was a medical truther.

Andy and chance us you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones today We're drinking nice Sparkling water. It seems to be a go-to to a certain extent. I well They're tasty. We did plenty of drinking last night. So maybe maybe no no drinks today I'm out to a shit couple shit bars. We went out to I think three or four shit bars. Yeah Yeah, it was not great. No, and I'd know nothing about Alex Jones. That's the premise of the show

I know a lot about him. You don't know anything about him and we try and work through his weirdness absolutely Just anyone's keeping track. We did play a game of Scrabble last night out at the bar But it was non canonical. No, it did not count. It was non canonical It was a bad Scrabble game from the jump because we were furious that our food took maybe an hour I have to forever to make it this shit bar and it's not like we got Complicated food. We got you put it in a fryer and then hand it to us lots sticks. Yeah and fries. Yeah And also, I mean we should have known there was vomit like right outside that's we should have like let's it's partly on us Hard pass on this bar

But anyway, we are here. We're drinking fizzy water It which is delicious and we are thrilled to be back on this here Alex Jones. Yeah, it's been a while since we've recorded Yeah, it feels like forever. Oh, yeah, I'd like to say a couple things really quick first I don't I don't don't go to Parrots bar on Halstead. I was hoping you would keep it I mentioned this last night It's one of those things that I really really hate about bars some bars that have like big open windows to the street I think that some people of a certain Persuasion so that's like exactly they have a performative aspect to their nights out

Where they get to the people who get really dressed up and they want to be seen and look like they're having fun Yeah, more than actually having fun And there was a large group of people that were spending most of the time there at the pool table You wanted to play pool, right? We couldn't because of them and they were like doing they were just Overhyping how much fun they were having they were acting like they were in a Dave and Buster's commercial It was exactly that yeah, I know it's because there's a huge window to the street there They knew that people could watch them having fun, right? It was it was pathetic

They might as well have been sponsored by the bar like totally go hang out in this window and everybody like holy shit This place is fun. Yeah, and then you go into the bar and you're like this is the saddest place in the world And I mean my theory that these people were dicks was like very well established by when they came over and A guy lectured you about low-fives. Oh, yeah, that's right. Fuck. I forgot that We were trying to just play scrabble mind our own business wait for our food And some guy came over and you gave your girlfriend a low-five. Yeah, he was like No, you're doing low-fives in here. No, you give high-fives. It's like oh, go. Why are you still alive? It's like at what point do you think this is a friendship start?

Is that what's going on? Are you trying to be a dick or do you think this is gonna be an icebreaker? What's going like I don't understand that mentality and people I fucking I just don't get it I don't connect with people. What would the ice ball? What would how would that break the ice? Just like oh Low-fives are bad. You are you sound like the most interesting man in the world. Let's talk to you in a book. Yeah I And that's why we have you heard about the protocols of the elders of Zion sir We had very different approaches to dealing with this guy, too

Cuz like you were kind of like you're a nice hole And my approach was ha ha Like very over-the-top fake laughing neither worked I think it's fair to say if you've listened to our show you understood the dynamic of how we reacted to it Yeah, exactly So those weren't the things I wanted to say I wanted to say that on our Facebook page right now and Started we started at the end of last week started to post a lot more blog content about Alex Jones in the immediate So when I'm listening to the episodes, I'm cutting clips and writing up debunking articles about fucked up things

He says in real time right and I appreciate everybody who's liked them And and shared them but what I want to say is that if you are interested in the show I would really appreciate it if you could go and and share them It makes such a big difference in terms of Facebook's algorithms And it's not one of these Alex Jones things where they're censoring us, right? It's just how it works if you have like a fan page or whatever You it does your content doesn't get pushed to all your fans unless you pay for it But you can organically get around that through like three or four or five people sharing things the ball starts rolling

It gets shown to a wider range of people and that would be a massive help in terms of getting the word out about things that We think are important about Alex Jones So if you could do that, I appreciate it But at the same time if you don't want to don't do it because I understand what it's like I I don't want to share a bunch of stuff on my pay I don't want my page getting cluttered up with a bunch of crazy people talking about Alex Jones And if that's where you're at I understand and frankly if that's not where you're at Who are you?

Are you okay? Do you need do you need to do you need to call us? I feel like you're talking to me now I was trying to stealthily do that. Yeah, that's fair. All right So I appreciate that that's that would be that would be wonderful. And yeah, anyway, let's let's get on to it All right, let's get down to business I thought you said there were a few things you wanted to talk about I think it was the I think that was just one now Cuz it was it was a compound thing It was the if you want to share the stuff, please do and also the second thing was if you don't want to I totally understand It doesn't count as two things. I think it does. I disagree in my head. It's very separate. All right. All right

Anyways, don't go to Parrots Bar on Halstead. That's the third thing. Oh No, the other thing is I wanted to give a shout out to our new policy wonk. We got a new donation Oh shit. We got a new policy. We did so like to give this one out to you. What's going on out there Ryan? I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much for joining up with the team. Absolutely. And if you're Paul Ryan go fuck yourself I don't think he would call himself Ryan. I don't I don't know You know after you find out that Kevin Durant had multiple Twitter accounts to fucking attack people who made fun of his Who knows anything is possible. What if Paul Ryan is a self-hating? Republican I'm certain he listens to yeah, that's true. That's true

So if you want to become a policy wonk you can do that by going to our website knowledge fight calm clicking these sports show button Now we've done all kinds of business here with the top five minutes of the show and thank you very much Ryan Yes, thank you. We appreciate it keeps the lights on low five So this is my house first. Okay, then yes, sir I will give you a low five. I'd like to propose a metaphorical high five for the fact that today we are back in the past Oh, thank God. The most recent shows of Alex's have not been fun And not really all that interesting because he's mostly just going hard at Al Franken and quite frankly

I don't I don't disagree. I mean, I'm fine with it Yeah, if Al Franken's assaulting people then absolutely you should step down and I don't think he gets a pass in any way Alex is presenting it as like these liberals won't call their own to task. I'm like right off everyone hates Lenna Dunham Everybody's mad at Al Franken. Yeah, they're mad at him in in a much more complicated way than Republicans seem possible of achieving Oh disappointment and You sorry you fucked up you gotta go right right, but the disappointment of like you had done some good things in the Senate You seemed like you were you know, he's real sharp in a lot of categories Uh-huh in terms of grilling people about climate change

And he's been very publicly helpful towards the cause of Towards just women and it's unfortunate But the reality is the reality and people on the left are dealing with reality, right? Maybe what we should do is never give men any sort of power because chances are they're gonna abuse it or especially towards women extreme vetting Perhaps I don't know It's it's super complicated the way Alex is dealing with it isn't based in reality And it's just trying to score points and the whole time. He's just talking with all these people about like about Roy Moore And his whole perspective is

It's weird What No, no, no, no, no, that's now is not the time to talk about age of consent laws first off Well, he's second he Absolutely raped a girl, you know it and I know it that happened Well, there was that accuser who came out and said that he basically like Grabbed her head through to his crotch. Yeah after driving her to a darkened part of a parking lot Yeah, I mean that's not weird. No, that's that's criminal. That's a crime. Yeah, and so it's a weird crime

Maybe I might I might give you that one. Yeah, it's possible that you could you take credit for that Anyway, I do have one thing I wanted to play. This is sort of an auto context drop Okay, this is from the November 16th show. So this is from the present and it's Alex trying to score points about his Sexual tastes. No, no, it's interesting. No porn take porn. I will I can't even watch it anymore And I'm not gonna sit up with our audience to be fake and say I've never seen porn I Literally, okay, you know what I like. Oh, no

I like typing in pin-up girls From the 50s and I'll just sit there for like an hour on my computer looking at women as pin-up girls No, that's why we're like we're like a waitress in a you know an acute skirt cute outfit like a woman cute and happy That's what I like. That's really weird. That's I mean, there's a lot of things to unpack there Yeah, I trust someone who likes hardcore porn way more than For hours, right because he's talking about it in a sexual contact. Yeah, of course and and like let's let's be clear the like the fetishizing of pin-up girls and that sort of aesthetic often is

Maybe a fetishization of like women without power. Yeah, like an era an era where women were very Subservient and submissive right and I think there's some weird elements there And the idea that you'd be sitting there for an hour just like Look at that. It's it's like a it's it's very much an uncomplicated like I like women who cannot talk back Right who only smile and who are never ever mad at me ever fuck a mannequin. Yeah, have you ever fucked a mannequin? I've not I'm fine with fucking a mannequin leg. I've not what I've also not had a Blow-up doll or as my right my friend Sal from Columbia, Missouri would say a blow up fuck doll He's the guy who owned the bar race to my comedy show one one night. He decided he was gonna do a set

Okay, he's a hilarious like former New Jersey pipe fitter. He's an awesome guy. All right now. I'm back on board Hey, so he called himself the wolf man sack now. I'm super on board This is character. I want a million of him and so he gets on stage and he's like guy, you know Why you have one of these blow-up fuck dolls? His set is just maybe ten minutes of him saying blow up Like I love it. See like that's that's always the best part That's the best part of any kind of open mic is look people who are working on jokes fine. Mm-hmm. I'm happy for you Yeah, lunatics now. I'm now. I'm excited. He's the good kind of lunatics. Yeah to be fair in all fairness

We ran into some of the other sorts and they don't deserve to be discussed. No, so let's let's move back into 2016 Jordan. Yes. We're in January 2016. We last left off. I believe on like the 11th When last we left our hero After the 11th, there's a string of boring fucking shows Because Alex it comes out that Chris Carter is rebooting the X files Okay, he's restarting the X files and one of the characters the football player. No, not the Vikings receiver Okay, the guy who actually who created the X files are and one of the characters in the new X files was loosely based on Alex Jones Yes, no, I recall that he he in an interview says that Alex Jones isn't what he would consider to be super right wing

He's more of a libertarian and and Alex takes that to be a big positive That's fair that is what it is, you know, whatever. Yeah, but Alex for like, I think we would beg to differ, but okay It doesn't matter to me really. Yeah, the categorization isn't the most important thing fair But he goes on for about two days talking about how the X files is the biggest show of all time And even even they know that Alex Jones is right about everything Of course why they're putting him in the show course He's friends with Dean Haglund one of the guys from the lone gunman. I take it. He hasn't seen it Yeah, exactly it was still like in promotion or they just maybe wrapped filming or something right?

but or maybe I'll hadn't even started on his No, it's what it's beginning of 2016. So I think it had like maybe up was about to air. Oh something like that Yeah, but um, he goes on and on and on for like two days straight just about how like the X files loves me Of course Carter's a patriot. We're gonna get him on the show best show of all time And then he talks about Dean Haglund the guy from the lone gunman the spin-off of the X files Okay, and how one of the episodes the CIA had contacted the lone gunman writers and told them to write 9-11 as a plot in the show in order to Prematurely inoculate the public from thinking it was fake because like it couldn't have been fake

I mean it was in this episode the the odds of that are fucking crazy. I'm like Okay, I don't want to do this. I'm just listening to the episodes. I'm like, I want to do this No, fuck this and then David Knight hosts a couple days and so I definitely don't want to do that No, so I jumped ahead to the next day that was can you imagine what if we did a David Knight episode? Would that even would that even work? I feel like that wouldn't even work for us I think the audience would revolt. I think we would revolt. We would lose our walks I think we would try and record the episode and then halfway through rage quit like a Online video game player. It's possible. I think we'd lose all of our donations

Our will to live which is amazing that David Knight hasn't done the same to infowars. He knows his job. Yeah, he knows his place So what we ended up having to do is like a well-trained dog. I want to stress this I mean this sincerely Because our last episode that we covered was like on the 11th or the 12th Today's episode we're covering January 17th. Don't think that that doesn't mean I still had to listen to 15 hours of Alex Jones for nothing 15 hours that we're not going to be covering at all. I still listen to that shit But it took me all that time to get to the 17th of January 2016 and boy was it worth it Okay, there are a couple things that we're going to find out on this show that are huge in terms of

Proving some theories that we've had about Alex. Okay, and then beyond that. He's crazy It's a Sunday show. So he's so we're gonna start some soft narratives. That's what's about to happen Not not especially. Okay, it's not one of those Sunday shows It's one of the Sunday shows where he knows that the audience is the smaller and more engaged audience And so he feels free to like let it rip right and then I think he thinks he's a preacher also in this episode That sounds good. So we're gonna start with that's a good. That's a good Alex Jones. We like that one It's not bad in terms of the and I mean, it's he's a little bit of an esoteric preacher Especially when he's really really wrong about what he's preaching about. Well, we'll find out if that's the case

I imagine it is Alex's mad at sports today. That's where he's the the broadcast. So we'll join him here Well, we're on the 17th. Mm-hmm right around Super Bowl territory February beginning of February was the Super Bowl. Yeah in 2016. Yeah, so we're playoff. We're in the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah, and Alex has some thoughts I'm not as manly as a lot of the people out there Who are gonna be watching the Seahawks and the Carolina Panthers coming up here in a little while? In fact, I'm so unmanly That I don't even know who played in the earlier playoffs today. Oh, yeah You did it

You know, the truth is I played football in high school. I liked football I went to Dallas Cowboys games with someone I was a kid And I could sure get into a game cool I Can sure enjoy it But you know when I realized that it's used as a propaganda tool by the social engineers and that the Patriotism you see during the game has been paid for with millions of dollars Well, then I assume you support Colin Kaepernick's Taking a knee

Right it because the patriotism is clearly paid for and in fact the government pays the NFL to pull all that bullshit Yeah, they started doing that around 2006 if I recall correct. Yeah, all the jingo is a man Americana right right but like so since he knows that it's just a crass Money-making scheme. Mm-hmm. Maybe he supports people branding. Yeah But like the other thing about it is like Alex is so stupid like the idea that he thinks that that's some sort of like Arcane secret thing that he's presenting like the idea that the government pays or the military pays Yeah, the NFL to promote the military, right? Of course they of course that's advertisement Haven't you seen the army commercials exactly? Yeah, it's not

Anybody could see through that, right? I don't understand why it's like they secretly do that It's declassified that sort of mentality. It's very weird I mean when they've got like Keith David doing voiceover for the Navy commercials It's like come on guys you guys are screwing everybody over and you have all those like those commercials for the military services that have like real athletic tone to them and then on top of that like, you know, just I Don't know video game soldier tone. Those sound fun. Yeah, it's I mean it It's a different issue than he's complaining about quite frankly. Yeah, it's propaganda. No, he's right and again He's super wrong for those reasons. Yeah, so I mean great. I'm glad that he can enjoy games

I'm glad that he I guess has seen through the bullshit and now doesn't want he doesn't get into the idea of sapping manly hood Manly man. Yeah, manhood. Whatever from from dudes male vitality Exactly. He usually does that when he complains about football like it's fake warfare to try and de Demasculinize man, right? He does not he's not really on that tip. He's how does he feel about the movie toys? Hey, just turned out to be one of the more prescient films of our time hates it. Really hates it. Oh, man doesn't like But Robin Williams and LL Cool J. Come on. He thought that the nail in the future, right? He thought that the MTV segment was wack. I I

Don't disagree with that. I I agree. So you he he's he's in this weird place about sports But then he makes this revelation that makes absolutely no sense. It indicates something other than Enjoyment of sport and sports leagues that he seems to be complaining about not here Judging anybody you are who's into sports. I get it. I've been there in fact Even though I've been awake. What year was it that the Red Sox finally went back to the World Series like eight nine ten years ago? 2003 and I was working on a film with a director who was into the Red Sox and

So I started at his office working late and then going out to restaurants or bars with him to watch it up to the World Series But it just took like a month or whatever, but it took over my life. I Was calling my wife saying yeah, I'm sorry. I'm going back out to tonight to watch the Red Sox I mean, I get it folks if I started watching it within days If I started watching ESPN, I would be hooked like a ten pound bass on the end of a line Right through my lip. I mean you have an objective personality. I get it. I've been there Exactly. I think he was gambling Because that that behavior is not I mean when the like Cubs were in the World Series

Yeah, that's how you were. Yeah, you're okay. Yeah, exactly Why would you just randomly? Yeah, there's no reason. I mean, I know he said he's hanging out with the socks fan But he's a lifelong Texan. Yeah, there's no reason for him to like the Red Sox now I mean at the time that was an amazing team and it was great narrative You know Pedro Martinez was throwing fireballs like it was a good time. It was st. Louis, right? Yeah, they beat I Don't remember. I Lost After they came back from three down to beat the Yankees. That was that was pretty much the end of it

I was working at a lion's choice roast beef shop when that happened in my life. How'd it go? Well, it was great I loved it. Did you get some beef? I made a lot of beef. Okay made a lot of beef real bloody beef Okay, horrible. I don't like that. I would go home just covered in blood from the roast beef because I was on the slicer Okay, my buddy Colin was on buns. You had to butter the buns You should have switched you should have switched jobs now because it was super fun Because he was kind of slow on it would always yell waiting on buns. That's kind of our thing He decided he was gonna make a rap album And the title is gonna be waiting on buns. That's not a lot of not a good take not a good title

Anyway, there's a guy who worked there was from st. Louis and just because I was like the Cardinals are up in the series I like a gamble. I like I'll bet you a hundred dollars that the Red Sox win this thing. He's like you got it and did not pay me Did not pay me. I'm sorry, but I probably would have collected from me if I had lost of course I did not I did not make him pay but be that as it may what Alex is describing is not normal sports watcher behavior That's a gambler. That's a gambling problem. Yeah, absolutely. That is like I got money on the spread, honey I'll be home later. I gotta I gotta watch the game. Yeah, if my prop bets hit, you know, someone to the warning track I get 20 bucks. Yeah, there's definitely there's a there's no like a oh, I'm gonna take the the run line Nah, nah, dude, you're you're going wild or or just like because sports is such an excuse to drink

It could be like an alcoholism thing. He's got an addictive personality. That's really all he's revealing there Yeah, the problem. He has with sports is the problem. He has with him not sports Right sports are not the issue here, Alex And that might be why he thinks that sports takes away people's like virility and their Enthusiasm and energy is because it does for him. Yeah, he gets fucked up by them Yeah, as we as we have found elsewhere. He is a world-class projector. Yeah, that's true You should get a movie theater job and such a projectionist So in this next clip Alex talks a little bit about science, okay, that's what he's wrong. I bet and

The systems written countless books countless university studies white papers. They have the Stanford Research studies they had others was more than seven famous ones where they were able to get nine out of ten or more people to murder Subjects in the graduate student and PhD programs Look them up. I did. They're a bunch of famous studies. Just type in famous study Where students believe they were killing subjects and when an authority figure stood there their professor By successful approximation took a week or so of them slowly torturing people they believe with actors That's not electric shocks to then say kill them and most people would then kill

Or what they believe was murder under peer pressure from an authority figure That's the Milgram experiment. Oh shouldn't have been specific Not a good idea figures and That's what this is all been about ladies and gentlemen So that's the one that's about the Nuremberg trials essentially is okay Was is it possible that these people were just following orders, right? And so what they did is they had it set up where one Subject the test subject was in a room with an experimenter had the dial

No, had a button. They had the button. I was fairly certain that was the dial one or or they had it was like it would turn Up every yes. Yeah, the experimenter would turn up the knob. That's right. Which was a fake knob, right? When how it worked was you had the experimenter and you had the subject And in the other room the next room you had the plant who was working with the experimenter and they were supposedly another Subject of the study. Yeah, so you had the experimenter the role of the subject was to be a teacher and the this the other subject in the other room was supposed to be the student and in the setup of the experiment the the subject would be sitting there and They would try and get the other person in the other room to

Guess a word based on another word There was a word game that they were playing and whenever they got an answer wrong. They were supposed to shock the other person Yeah, now the experimenter who is sitting in the room with the knob every time they'd get an answer wrong They would turn up the voltage and if the person who was the subject of the study who was asking the questions It was supposed to be the teacher if they said to the experimenter. I don't think we should do this They would rebut them four times and if they made it past the fourth rebuttal the experiment would end That was the whole idea to see how much people would push back against priority And they did find that most people very unhappily went along with it

Right, the other way the experiment ended was you'd get up to 450 volts, which is enough to kill Theoretically right now what's they were told it was enough to kill that's that's not an essential piece of the experiment Right, that's what Alex. That's one of the things he's misrepresenting I mean 65 volts could kill you. It's all it's not it's electricity through your brain. It's not about voltage It's about current when it comes down to Electricity and it also comes down to like do you have a wound that it's going in because then the like skin is a really good Conductor for the most part of electricity, right? But if you have a cut or something like that the blood is going to it's going to be a disaster

Yeah, so there's all like it's not they weren't sitting down there being like kill this man Right no, he does present it that way it was super fucked up as an experiment what they learned was pretty shocking now Here's the other most important piece that Alex is not talking about the Milgram experiment It is historically seen as not that great in an experiment and here's why Everyone was dudes. Yeah, no shit. Yeah Well, I mean The original experiment was all dudes if you are going to test that as a Nuremberg trial situation though Not a lot of Nazi female soldiers in that regard. Yeah, that's that's probably it was it was at the time

You know militaries were all dudes Except for the Russian military because they needed everybody But yeah, right, but you can't like as far as an experiment goes if I don't think he is I Think he's misrepresenting it and getting a lot of the details wrong, but based on what he is saying I think he's got the spirit of what he's trying to say correct No, which is that it's weird that people would be willing to murder because of an authority figure. Yeah That's all he's trying to say in the first set of experiments. I mean Alex said 90 percent 65 percent yeah, 26 out of the 40 experiment participants, which is also too small sample size to really

And generalized based on it. It's fucked up. Yeah, still like so 65 percent of the participants administered the experiments final 450 volt shock though many were very uncomfortable doing so And at some point every participant paused and questioned the experiment some said they would refund the money They were paid for participating in the experiment throughout the experiment subjects displayed varying degrees of tension and stress Subjects were sweating trembling stuttering biting their lips groaning digging their fingernails into their skin and some were even having nervous Laughing fits or seizures. Yeah, it's a really fucked up experience in the same way that I mean he in passing. He does mention That he also brings the Stanford Prison Experiment and that's another super fucked up one But again, it's also another one that and the same way that in the same way that Milgram is

There they're They are described less as experiments and more as kind of Philosophical questions and it is caution. Yeah, it's it the Stanford Prison Experiment is a You know if it were if the What am I trying to say if the strictures of the experiment were applied elsewhere? It would be immediately invalidated. No, no biological science. No, no any science any of the hard sciences. Yeah, would ever accept those Rules as a as a valid experiment, it's more or less anecdotal in nature exactly, but it's still Appointed it is, you know the Stanford Prison Experiment

You can still draw some conclusions from that, but you can't draw a wide far-reaching conclusions You can just notice hey human beings are fucked up You know what they almost are they almost are good ways to Inoculate people from that behavior in the future. That's possible because you bring you have these these Quote experiments that are done the demonstrate a point and people can see it illustrated in real time They're like, oh, I hope I wouldn't do that right and then possibly going through their life They're more aware of the influence of authority figures or in the case of the prison experiment They're more aware of the idea of us versus them mentalities that break out artificially and just naturally wherever

Yeah, so I mean like we did with that guy at the ball right well And the only the only problem with that though is it doesn't seem to matter You know we have a very good experiment about how Nazism works and apparently people they're still fine with it Yeah, that's that's fairly true. Yeah. Oh well. I don't know those those are really really interesting studies Again because they are invalid There's you know just by the very fact of it being You being aware that is an it is in an experiment and you're being paid and you're being paid It means that you're you know like if I'm in that situation with a an experiment and they're saying blah blah blah blah

There's also the part of your brain that goes well, there's no way they would allow me to kill a guy Uh-huh, so there's a artificial Constrict there. What if they right? What if they did dude? It was the 60s. Who fucking knows 70s? Whatever, but yeah, you killed the guy like the experimenters like dude That's fucked up Hey, I mean you want to go back to the fucking Tuskegee experiments. They're fine with killing people especially back then yeah, that's true That was back when science was more of like a You guys here's some money go fucking whatever. I don't know just do something. Yeah, let's see what justify your budget

That's all we need from you. Yeah, so Alex is wrong about the I mean sort of like these these He's right in a small sense and wrong in a big sense. Yes about these Experiments as is so often the case when we say he is right. It's generally speaking in a very very small capacity a very trivial way Yeah, but don't let that fucking fool you. Okay I won't Alex has a history of reading Brainy magazine. Please don't tell me he says that he does I remember reading 20 something years ago in different publications that were Brainy that the CIA by the 50s had put out a worldwide program to put out ugly art To discredit beautiful art because they wanted to destroy the discrimination

Factors in the brain between what is good and what is bad? You read that in Brainy publications, I came on a skull too. I don't know if you guys remember that well Yeah, there is that go back to the March 30th episode for that fucking super fun times So so his idea of what so as he understands the CIA's plan. Yeah, it is to Put out bad art right in order to discredit good art. Yes That is a great CIA plan and I would have fund more of that and uh like The the idea of like making it so you can't differentiate between good art and bad art What is beautiful and what is ugly? It's complete nonsense

But I mean you go into the there's there's tons of anecdotes of like Oh, they I I actually just let a monkey paint this and it sold for a million dollars like What are you what are you talking about going to discredit art the art world is already fabricated anyways? Yeah But there I mean there's a there's a truth to to some of this The CIA did Help promote people like Jackson Pollock mark Rothko and Willem de Kooning Like these abstract expressionists back in their time. I did not know that they did

And it was a way it was a piece of the cold war strategy that they had okay And the CIA was wild during the cold war the artists I'm reading here from an article in open culture about this The artists themselves were completely unaware that their work was being used as propaganda On what agents called a quote long leash. They participated in several exhibitions secretly organized by the CIA such as the new american painting Which visited major european cities in 1958 and 1959 and included such modern primitive works as surrealist William basiott's 1947 painting dwarf and 1951's tournament by Adolf Gottlieb

And 1984 is dwarf on golf indeed. Yeah, so they're like super fucked up paintings. They're like a bizarre. Yeah, completely abstract um, so So was the okay next question and this is very serious Was the cia behind the dataist movement? Uh, they were behind roko-ko. Okay. Um, I accept that so the idea that uh, what what they were doing is, um When you have this art, uh, and it's not really seen as all that great over here Right, but you have people in russia who are used to very concrete paintings like because in uh, their Totalitarian state in the 50s in the soviet union. Yeah, you had a firmer control over art

So you had basically the art that was approved is like Realistic paintings of stalin. Yeah, and shit like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's what flies over there and so promotion in europe of this Like very bizarre american art is going to lead to positive american sentiments because they're going to see america as Avant-garde, they're going to see them on the cutting edge. I guess it's going to be so different from what they're used to Right, so that is the strategy that the cia was employing right as a way of culturally piercing the soviet union citizens Okay, that is what they were doing has nothing to do with trying to warp the minds of good and bad And so it's like if the cia was exporting super mario brothers to north korea right now

Yes, basically. Yeah, essentially. Yeah um That's that's a way, you know, sometimes I wish we could go back to the cold war Like when you read the stories of what the cia did during the cold war And how they had so little oversight all of their all of their plans were were rube goldberg machines It's fantastic how silly they were. Yeah, just so much so much rooting through garbage and like Okay, what if we implant this thing inside of mouse? It's a little recording device and maybe the mouse will go into the board room and we'll get to hear all of it

Did they with cats too? Yeah, exactly like what are you guys? What is this? Are you guys mad scientists? What's happening? It's delightful. They were they were to some extent Yeah, but that's the intersection of desperation and like Rue the technology The military industrial complex run amok. Well that too, but like rudimentary Technologies right couldn't quite do what we needed to do yet Right and then you add lack of oversight because of the desperate times. Yeah, like the the real Um severe and we could we could argue all day about whether that was overblown

What the fears that we had about the soviet union back then. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, who knows it was all imaginary So we still have not gotten to what I would call I mean you consider how many close calls we had with the nuclear warfare destroying the earth though And it's like some of those fears are really good, but those fears should have been more towards Okay, wait, so we're giving nuclear weapons to a bunch of idiots And we're a bunch of idiots and they're giving nuclear weapons to a bunch of idiots. Yeah Oh boy, that leads to a lot of close calls. Yeah, we had uh, there have been what like five Uh documented and declassified instances of like one dude coming down to I believe so

Should I press the button or not? I'm aware of like at least a couple, but I would assume that it's more than I'm aware of Well, the most famous one, uh, was the guy who just died in May. Was it something like that? Yeah, uh, the russian guy who against all orders from his superiors was like, it's probably a training exercise saved the world Yeah, saved the world by himself. Yeah, and he was then put into Siberia and never allowed to speak of it Yeah, well, great. That's what happens. Good work guys So we've not gotten to today's theme yet. Okay, we got a theme. We have a the the whole episode On this january 17th is about how football sucks. No, okay. That's just how he started It's about how the red socks suck. No, okay, uh, although he did lose a lot of money

He's betting against the spread stupid bad idea bad idea. No, don't bet baseball. Don't bet basketball He has a very bizarre theme and it's going to lead us through most of the rest of this episode and boy Just strap it in. Oh boy. Howdy, and I'm gonna talk some about that in the second hour today. Use the mark of the beast real yes 100% and the answer is yes, it is real called it called it. I knew it and the answer is we're going to end up living under it And no one is going to be raptured out of it

Where does it say that in the bible now when I say that many of my christian listeners and viewers get extremely angry and say that I'm basically bad. They're gonna stop listening to me That means you're in a cult yep If someone disagrees with you about something in the bible and it's not the deity of jesus christ or the trinity Then you've got a problem and it become a Pharisee Whoa

And the reason we have tens of thousands of different denominations in this world Is because everyone's in fighting with each other claiming they know the way and they have the answers if you want to believe in a rapture That is your business and I'm not judging the way and the truth in the life and I don't think you're up the devil Cool, you have been grievously deceived by the devil and I could go to the bible and show people this all day long And I'm gonna talk about it the next hour very excited for you to talk about that in the next hour

Does he not get the irony of him saying hot may I introduce you to my friend? It's insane if somebody disagrees with you about anything but the trinity You got a problem Which implies that if you have a disagreement about the trinity or jesus's divinity, then that's not a problem also Those are shing is the trinity and no point in the bible. Do they ever talk about the holy spirit being a top three? Ghost is in there. It's ridiculous. Come on. Come on. I am a tripartite the holy ghost Um, I don't know. I don't want to unpack that. I don't even jesus is It's all stupid. I'm kidding. So I don't know if you guys have no have heard this from me

I don't think the bible's true interesting. I think they might have been lying. I think you and alex might have a problem I think they Well, we don't disagree on the holy trinity one of the things that I like the most about the bible If you look at a number of verses, uh, especially I kind of discount most of the old testament because it's old magic and uh, jesus's Arrival and sacrifice invalidates the old covenant pretty much creates a new covenant And yet somehow we're still listening to people tell us about the old testament right with all due respect to, uh, The jewish folk, uh, who do have a lot of the old testament in their in their holy books

I guess christians do too, but it should just be historical Uh, and not because of jesus. Nope literal because of jesus literal because of jesus. Nope Um, so the the things that I really resonate with in terms of the bible if we want to talk about it It is the uh, jesus being divine that that that sort of idea Um, and there were many instances where he says things to the effect of you will do what I do and greater Uh, that I'm not different than you that sort of thing And if you look at it that way the sort of the idea that jesus is god That sort of divinity within him is the divinity that's within all of us right and I can I can vibe on that

If you want a vibe, I can vibe on that you can't though because christians do not believe that no Too busy talking about the wrath of the old testament exactly. Um, but alex I I'm very interested in like this episode He is fucking bent out of shape about the rapture because it's not All right, continue. He's furious and I think what has happened in the in the pro or the con He thinks the rapture is real right? No. Oh, he thinks the rapture is not real. He's against the pre tribulation rapture So all right. All right, jordan. Let's get into this jordan. I want to dive in here I don't know if you've been paying attention, but throughout the last like maybe

10 12 episodes There's been a guy who keeps calling in. Yeah, there's a guy who keeps calling into alex's show and trying to explain the The pre tribulation rapture. It was one of the writers of left behind right and alex keeps like telling him Like I don't want to have this debate like how do you keep getting through the calls? Like so he keeps getting through the screeners and alex hears his voice. It's like I don't want to talk to you That's fantastic up on it So that's been sort of a narrative arc that's been going on and I think this guy has finally gotten to alex

Because he on this show spends almost the entire time talking about how stupid pre-trib Rapture is I agree sure Sign me up for that as well. Yeah So the idea that I already went with all of us and pre tribulation rapture is dumb So alex believes the there's a post tribulation rapture and that's because that's somehow even dumber Well, it's because in the bible or at least in alex's interpretation of revelation and I guess daniel and maybe ezekiel Some of the prophetic books of the bible He believes that which we're all right and nailed it as we all know the antichrist comes

Yes, and it leads us to a real bad time. Yeah, we're a bummer a real bad time He's a bummer right almost as bad as trump dude. It's a real bad worst So we go through that a lot of the world dies out Turns out he's a dragon uh-huh and then god comes back in the battle of armageddon Jesus comes back and that's when the the battle happens and then there's a rapture much like the red sox in 2003 exactly Alex is gonna lose a lot of money on the armageddon Oh, I'm betting on satan on this one You gotta hedge your bets. Yeah. Yeah

Uh, that's probably a sin. What are you getting minus 300 on satan? What are you getting there? That's a good spread That's not bad. Yeah, you got jesus and the field I'll take the field I'm not gonna take the field. I'm not gonna gamble on armageddon, but be that as it may that's alex's conception And he's furious that I think a lot of his listeners Are trying to convince him of the pre tribulation rapture Right where in the antichrist comes the faithful go to heaven and they don't they get to sit out this whole trouble Right the troubles as it were and uh, he he is mad because alex believes

That that Is a globalist conspiracy Yes, I wish Yes, I wish I wasn't joking All right, I wish I wish I was joking. I wish that was just like a good bit. I came up with He believes I think he spells it out in this next clip. I'll just play this and then we can discuss it on the other end God would protect his people many times at a point and providence was clear But you have to go through the fire first. You have to be willing

To be put to the sword Until god acts and in many cases Like the christians and the coliseum god doesn't take action because it's part of the plan That they be martyrs to spread the faith But how do you get A billion christians To lay down And do not be involved and let the devil take over the world

How do you do that? Well, you tell them they're not gonna have to face judgment They're not gonna have to face Crises and evil on this planet that they should just lay down to everything Like Jesus teach him romans 13 out of context so alex believes that this interpretation of The pre-tribulation rapture is something that is being taught in the glitterbug churches

And what have you as a way of taking away the activism and power of the billion christians That could be fighting the devil It's the devil and he does imply that it's the globalists who are doing this He has a caller calls in and says that all of the world's religions like islam buddhism christianity They all met in soul korea. They all met in soul korea. They did they got okay They got to soul south korea All right, they had a conversation where they decided to add let's have a war in world religion All these religions came together and decided that and the true comedy of it is

This caller is listing off the religions. He's like christianity islam buddhism and then alex jones johnson shintoism No, they left shintoism out of that one They were like no no no no you guys keep going and worshiping the trees or whatever get the fuck out of here Shintoism come on. It's a very very small population, but I love you guys barely sacrifice anything I love the idea that alex like he's like gotta throw in something to make myself sound smart shinto So yeah, man. It's a man. See that's fantastic. And all they have to do I love I love how christians seem to have never read the gospels Like the the synoptic gospels

Matthew mark luke and john yeah just the four where jesus is like hey Let's not fight assholes Turn the other cheek. How do you get a billion christians to just lay down? Yeah, you have them read the bible So roman's 13. I mean if you go back and if you just a refresher course, uh, it's really actually pretty fucked up Because it is very clearly saying Hey, uh, you should submit to your rulers because they're representatives of god It's one of the reasons it's one of the justifications that they've used for slavery over many many years Absolutely, especially in the united states

Uh for the one in authority is god's servant for your good If you do wrong be afraid for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason They are god's servants agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrong doer Therefore it's necessary to submit to authorities not because of possible punishment But also as a matter of conscience. Yeah the next paragraph deals with give everyone what you owe them If you owe taxes pay taxes if revenue than revenue if respect than respect if honor than honor um It's almost as though it was written by somebody with like, uh

You know vested interest in maintaining power. Um seems crazy to think about in the bible um, so then it gets into uh in the next paragraph you get into uh, the all the commandments Can be summed up in the one command love thy neighbor is yourself love does no harm to the neighbor Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law great You know they encourage a societal unity. All right, and then the last part about it the last paragraph Starting at verse 11 And do this understanding the present time the hour has already come for you to wake up from your slumber Because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed which is a truism

Yeah, if there is an end eventually Then right now it's sooner than it was earlier. Yep, so there's that that's great Uh, the night nailed it the night is nearly over the day is almost here So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light Let us behave decently as in the daytime not in carousing and drunkenness not in sexual immor Immorality and debauchery not in dissension and jealousy rather clothe yourselves with the lord jesus christ And do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh It seems almost counterintuitive that it was like the night is coming the night is almost over and the day is almost here

Which is like Uh, no, I think that means I should go fuck as much as I want because the night's about done Right and I got to go to work tomorrow sun's coming. Yeah, so fucking let's go. Uh, there's something to that Uh, but then you the only uh rebuttal I would say is maybe like if you need practice Being good, you know, yeah, yeah It's not going to come easy the first time right like the red stuff because we loved debauchery So like it's like we got to practice being decent or something. Anyway I I don't understand exactly how that passage is weaponized outside of literally

Interpreting it as submits to authorities. Yeah, yeah, which is there. I mean, that's in your holy book So quite a bit deal with it a lot deal with it. That's not a miss on that's not a misrepresentation of what that means Nope, it's it's actually literally what it says. So also, I mean, it's it's not a conspiracy It's not a globalist conspiracy. Don't think so. So, uh, is the mark of the beast real jordan It might be your headphones. Uh, is your headphones off? Uh, uh, there. Oh, yeah, there we go. Okay. Um At this point, do you believe the mark of the beast is real? Uh, yes. Okay What do you think about this whole rapture situation is the mark of the beast real? I

Because obviously it's here Oh, okay, you answer the question I'm gonna break down the type of world we're gonna live in under this antichrist system Everything controlled everything distorted a false reality forced into our consciousness to deceive even the elect That is the modern antichrist system And I tell you if I was ever a doubting thomas in my life, which I never was but you still academically doubt Boy, I tell you it is bone chilling how real all this is and how scripture is being fulfilled

Very it's not very bone chilling. So, uh, you know, alex is on this tip He's uh, he's he's worked up about the revel revelation and biblical Prophecy coming true beyond that later. He does sort of spell out what the world is going to look like and of course It's just the globalist it's a globalist fantasy. Yeah, it's a bummer and then uh beyond that he uh, the other thing is Just uh He reveals that like I Is like I studied this and I've seen it in dreams and again great great. Yep. That's not uh, that's not great

That's what I like to hear. Yeah, that's the way it's supposed to go. Yeah. Um, so uh after this point Okay, alex is on to some other shit. All right, and now we got to talk About kameros Thank you. And again, if you're an atheist, you know, my point is look at the dehumanization Look at the genetic engineering. Look at the elites saying they're going to merge with machines and become gods Look at humans being grown inside cows and sheep to harvest their organs. Look at them This isn't the exercise. This is the real world And it goes on and on and on

But if it's admitted in just an mit magazine, nobody cares met I just thought of something I have a responsibility to go to these facilities Yes And to get answers and and to just show people it's just like Planned Parenthood infiltration They're now suing that group that infiltrated Planned Parenthood by every yardstick is committing crimes Selling the body parts. They live the public and said they weren't they don't tell women they're selling the body parts because they're not

Other abortion facilities have been caught keeping babies alive for harvesting. No My dad's a physician retired and I remember dentist Going to get my driver's license when I was 15 We're back to the story in a second But I do want to just take a second before we move on because there's another minute of this clip I do want alex to go save those kameros. Yes, I agree That would be the best true tv show ever bring a camera. Absolutely make a make another season of jesse ventura's conspiracy theory Now chimera hunters instead of ghost hunters chimera hunters. I'd love it way in go to bass drop

Oh, I'd watch that all day. All right. So now back to alex jones's dad being a fucking weirdo. Okay My hardship license that because I had a job at a small animal vet I got my license a year early And he said son don't sign that organ Donor card. I would say dad stop trying to scare me. I would say why would you say that? Here's why? And my dad was the type of guy that said, you know hiv's a bio weapon. It only really affects africans It's very hard for a white person to get it The team

Metals and bad processed drugs only drug addicts that are Caucasian can get it with rundown immune systems Oh, it's a bio weapon race specific and then later that all came out. That's how smart It came out with john rapid So this is pretty well debunked. No, this is when we talked about this. Yeah And he's saying that this is he's saying that. Oh boy. This is from his dentist father Yeah, no wonder he's fucked up his dad told him that hiv is only affected black people. Yeah, there's race specific bio weapons Oh boy, and hey, guess what? The reason that like drug users get it more is because of the applique the ways people use drugs

Oh, is it drugs? Yes. It's couldn't have something to do with that. Yes. Could have something to do with sharing needles Oh, man, all the explanations that he's trying to come up with are so much more complicated than the realities It's a blood-borne disease and if you share blood with somebody You're gonna get the disease you can yeah, but be that as it may not. Yeah. I mean, obviously not be that as made That's crazy. Yes. That's crazy. Yes, that is crazy And that being the response to alex is like, hey, why shouldn't I sign my organ donor card is even wild I think that makes perfect sense. Yeah, it's like, uh, hold on What if we look at all of this as just

alex jones' dad Was fucking with his son. I don't think he was fucking with him. I think he's nuts. You think he's nuts But where does he get that great toothpaste from? Uh That's where he gets it from. Oh, okay. So this clip's not done The quote conspiracy theorist because nobody in the house thought that, you know It was just he knew what he was talking about. Sure And you know, he did the dental work on the deputy director of the cia and stuff like that. So, you know, uh,

People listen to him Did they that's alex jones is he's a cia dentist narrative. Yeah, he did dental work on this one guy Yeah, he did dental work for the deputy director. Great But I just took it like It was just dad sitting there at the dinner table talking But when he said don't do that a lot of times they won't give you treatment and will actually kill you at the hospital for your organs And I said what is your proof and he said i'm just i'm not gonna tell you

So now we know where it began so we know where alex gets that So we figured out where alex just believes proof Um, my dad didn't think it was important to prove the claims that he's making that are wild I guess I can do that too. Hey Great good to see good to see a clear a to a path dad. You just gave me a job. Yeah, so, um, I mean people who have um Much greater understandings of science can debunk all this for you if you want to go look into it Just don't go to john rapport site. Yeah, definitely

That'll lead you down the wrong path or or really just think for two seconds That helps and then you'd be like no, that's dumb. Also This chimera shit Is wild because it is just happened like the the article just came out right the mit the human human chimeras are Gestating on animal farms. Yes, what have you? Yeah, which we've gone over and discussed and it doesn't say what alex is saying Of course that sensational headline to get attention and what have you?

Um, now he's gonna ramble about it for a little bit here and it goes To some crazy places excellent It's just something like this human animal chimeras Are gestating on research farms and I've got hundreds of articles here. I could spend all day on these It's not like I keep going back to this four or five times this last week because I don't have material Is it is it? This is a big whitewash article where it calls it tissue. No, they're growing

embryonic babies that they create embryos and test tubes And then they implant them in The cows and in the sheep and in the pigs because they can't get women to do it Lord knows they've done it with women too. That's the word But they want them in cows because they can grow them up bigger and get larger organs So now let's pause right there and discuss the science of this I think alex alex thinks Wait, so he thinks that the only reason our organs aren't bigger is because we don't have enough room. Yes. We're like goldfish

Okay All right, I can't do that. I can't deal with that They want to put human organs into cows because cows have more space to make bigger organs If your liver is failing you want a huge fucking huge liver Maybe that was a design fall with god with god's plan in the first place If he knew we were going to drink so much he would have given us bigger livers. It's an Ezekiel Now that's your pre-trip rapture right there So, I mean I think that there's some comedy and some value in that being said right after the hiv is a race specific bio

They want to use these human animal chimeras in cowbellies because there's more room to make a bigger organs bigger That begs the question though. Why wouldn't you go with elephants? Exactly. Doesn't that make more sense alex? Why don't you go with a sperm whale? Yeah, exactly. Oh man, and there's still mammals We could get a shit ton of organs out of them. You could get a liver the size of your fucking whole body and that Is how you drink exactly. I like I love how he does that He always does the he obviously reveals why he's doing something by saying he's not doing listen, and I'm not bragging Okay, you're bragging right. I'm not doing this just because I don't have any material. Okay. You don't have any material That's why you just say the exact same thing over and over again. I have a hundred articles, but I only talk about this one ever

Yeah, yeah, what a dick 30 years ago 20 years ago I was reporting on this out of light papers and it was 10 years old then That's when they admitted it. I know I don't get a favoring, but this is the point. I'm getting out of the story I've told probably 50 times Of about 14 years ago I went in to pick up a pizza at a pizza place and this guy goes I used to be a listener of you

Until you lied and said there's sheep And goats that are part spider and that they create body armor in their milk I said, okay, we'll believe whatever you want, sir. And he poked me in my back I said, no, you're a liar Okay, and I turned around and I said so you went to college, didn't you? It's like, yeah, I did Which is why I know when you go I went to ut of the 70s I took biology. They don't have stuff like that

And I just said you better get out of my face Yes, that's a good idea. And that's what I deal with folks. I'm covering stuff That's spider goats are at least 25 years old They've been in tens of thousands of publications. They've been in hundreds of publications at that time I have the ceo on my show Running a department of defense program with the goats Now first of all spider goats are real, but also I do love just the way he says that sentence the I had the ceo who's running a department with the goats

This makes me think of the goats at computers The goats are the employees running the department of defense or whatever and that's where Scott Adams got his ideas from It's goat burnt. It's oh goat burnt goat burnt one of the best characters How do the spider leadership feel about the spider goats is another question I think it's I think it's just another population for their infantry Is it a joint venture between the goat leadership and the spider leadership to kind of cross breed? I have bad news for you. The goat leadership is not existed Disarray. Yeah, they are they are like

Just hordes back in the day, you know, did like disinterested tribe. Right. Right. I got you can't get together the goats Are yeah, but if they get a goat just con together. All right. All right. I'm gonna get out of here I think I did all I gotta do. Bye. I think I solved my life problem. Uh, anyway The month before that guy said I was a liar But see that's what I can't deal with the emergency centers establishment act The civilian inmate labor camp program The all of this is admitted FEMA camps are admitted

It's all admitted in the army times. They're preparing them for political dissenters the army times But then you sit up there and say crazy people think this is all happening folks Like you well, if you if you would like to recall that episode where we did the uh, the the uh, The speed the lightning round And discussed all of those FEMA fears. Yeah, uh, alex is just making stuff up very much so except for the civilian Labor camp thing that that one we did talk about that one's scary Yeah, that one's possibly not good But again when we deal with stuff like that you have to deal with the fact that we have a private prison industry

Right in our country that is enslaving people, right? So like if you if you want to talk about both I I support it if you want to talk about one not the other Talk about the private prisons. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah seems more big deal now But wait Dan privatizing things always makes it better. Absolutely oversight Uh terrible no regulations Jordan what they should do is give the civilian inmates guns totally that way They'd really get the job done. Well, see the bad there's bad civilian inmates, but you got a civilian Of course

I don't know what we're talking about anymore. Me neither. So Jordan. We're gonna get back to the devil in a little bit Um, there's some more thoughts rest in peace, uh Malcolm young There's some more thoughts about the devil and about the rapture. Yeah, but this next clip This is a mic down clip. Okay alex jones make like This next clip is basically like I have been looking for this clip For a year. So you've fallen in love. No I found the woman that you want to marry. No, no

I have needed something like this to come out of alex's mouth And he delivered and this clip Is so fucking damning. Okay in in hindsight knowing what we know now about the russian Influence campaigns that we're running from the summer of uh of 2015. Yeah, and now we are in january of 2016 six months later Listen to this And retail sells and everything else are in the toilet and obama gets up on tv and says everything's fine Everything's wonderful. Everything's not fine. Everything's not wonderful. Ladies and gentlemen, I've been on air 21 years

And it always in the past when audience level went up Profits went up to fund the operation. Our audience has basically doubled the last six months fastest growth rate ever What we got so many listeners it makes my head spin and profits are flat to be able to even fund the operation That's why we know this is serious. I'm going to cover it more in the next hour It's not doom and gloom. It's facts We're going to get into the latest numbers royal bank of scotland saying sell everything But please purchase high quality products at info or store.com to help fund this operation during these dark times Our voices needed more than ever

Oh, shit Oh, shit Fucking idiots. First of all nice ad pivot. I always enjoyed that was a good one. That was a good one But dude He just revealed that our audience numbers have gone up so high. They've doubled, but nobody has bought anything I guess that must mean the economy's bad That must mean that obama is lying about all these statistics that people are putting out about the Rising economy. It's definitely not that bots are listening to the show now

And there's not uh, well, I mean not even listening. Yeah, well, no artificial inflation of traffic Of course, there's not a chance in my mind that on some subconscious level by now in 2017 Alex knows goddamn. Well, that's what happened. Really. He has to it kind of sounds like he doesn't I think that's why he's fighting so hard now trying to make the russian stuff seem like nonsense Because he knows I have been uh compromised. I've been hoodwinked. Right and that clip right there is evidence that in the beginning of 2016 he didn't know But it's obvious, right? It's like, uh, uh I don't know how to come up with a good analogy about this, but it's like it's like

Alex talking to his hypothetical friend who got tricked by the nigerian scam, right or whatever and the guy's like I'm gonna make a lot of money. Like I just got to go meet this nigerian prince, right or an alex is hearing him He's like There's nothing there Alex is talking and saying like art. We have gotten twice the listeners in the last six months as we had before But no one's buying anything. We can hear that and we're like, oh dude Oh, oh, we know. We literally know exactly what happened. Yeah, and that that to me I mean

That's that's game over that's pretty much that's game over on his first of all his audience size and then secondarily That he was not being specifically targeted By uh, these russian troll farms and bot farms. Yeah, so congratulations, alex You've been compromised by russia in so many ways And you've revealed it all on your own show and all we had to do to figure it out was pay attention to your dumb ass Wow, congratulations Now that is that is so now. Let's get obvious now. Let's get buzzfeed to report on this, baby No, fucking clue. No, what an idiot you'd have to be like if we saw a doubling of our numbers

Yeah, that's actually kind of reasonable considering how low our numbers are But if even then if we saw that we'd be like what the fuck is going on here Weird's happening. There's a certain part of us that is Well, and that's why it's so easy to hoodwink him like that because he expects so narcissistic and we hate ourselves Of course, of course my listeners double because i'm right and if our listeners double would be like Who's fucking with us? Nobody's listening to this goddamn show. How dare you right? Right? How dare you pay attention to us his his version of it is finally people are waking up Yeah, and thank god. I've been doing this work all this time

It's paying off now the chicken's coming home to roost and what have you yeah, and it's just robots. Wow What a fucking idiot. I love it when I heard that clip. I was like Nailed it Because every other time it's been very Non-specific and he's just said that the numbers have gone up in that time. Yeah, but the fact that he's The numbers have gone up Sales are flat Exponentially the numbers have gone up sales have stayed exactly the same. He's right

He's right to see those two numbers and think something's up. Yeah, just thinks the wrong thing right and now we know he knows it Yeah, now we know he knows exactly what happened. He has to he has to yeah has he and he hasn't revealed that I don't think so no no Yeah, it's interesting. How would uh, how would how do you think his listeners would respond if they Knew exactly what was going on there? If they so I don't think I don't think they would care. I don't think they would care if you're an alex jones listener and you just learn that Uh a hostile foreign power. Yeah has has artificially inflated the influence of and alex jones

Well of these different right-wing things Exactly, how would you take that? Well, would you take it as the russians are right to do that? Yes, because alex has the built-in narrative that russia are the good guys and what have you they would probably look at it Is like they were just desperately trying to help the patriots and that's the way they thought it was best to do it Yeah, raise the profile of the one guy telling the truth in this country And they could save us through working with russia and getting donald trump elected Right, that's probably what they would say and the fact that alex like at this point in the beginning of 2016 Is clearly oblivious like because I don't think I can kind of tell when he's

He's such a bad liar. Yeah, there's indications that kind of shine through and that seems no that seemed very sincere He seems confused. He seems he's like wait. Why are all these people listening and not also buying right and that might actually be why Uh We start to see such a hard desperate pivot towards sales Yeah, well you start to see them really ramp up the commercials and stuff like that because he thinks more people are listening So I just got to sell harder. Yes to get more money out of them. Yep. There's this untapped area of our listeners If I could just get them Then we'd be fucking rolling in it. Yeah, not realizing those people are not buying wow from you

Yeah, you do I like I've said this before but you really have to give it up to the russians because that was a brilliant strategy I would I would like to say that you don't have to give it up to them But no, I mean you don't have to give it give it up to that. I mean like One of the main reasons that it worked so effectively is because nobody saw it coming Nobody saw this massive flaw in our media landscape wherein I think a lot of people did I think some people did did yeah, but did we do it? No has america done it? I feel like this is I think I think this is one thing where america doesn't have the same kind of troll farms No, I don't know. I have no idea. But what what what I would say is

I don't think even they necessarily thought it would work work. No, I don't think so I think it's a I think it was a very very good strategy And it was the like if you are if you're fighting a war on a battlefield that you can't win on Choose a different battlefield like that's all that they did. They know they can't do any number of Propaganda things the same way that we can they know they can't fight us physically They know they can't do any of this right so they just chose the one spot where they were like Here's a flaw in this system We can dance on this court and that's what and we're gonna hammer it as hard as we can

Yeah, and it I mean and it was brilliant. Yeah for the most part it worked and alex is a useful idiot Congratulations, alex. Nicely done. Now. Let's get back to the devil. Yay But here's the bottom line There is an attack on stone cold So the devil's real or not. I want to end debate The political global system of eugenics comes to kill steal and destroy and behaves like the mythical devil The archetype is real Joseph cambell the whole nine yards for no debate. It's just naming things. I know there's a spiritual force

I've experienced providence. I've experienced Many things that are private I can tell you it's real I've interviewed many people. I respect Like colonel craig roberts who died for 10 minutes. No, he did on the operating table came back. No, he didn't They're not their own cultures that don't even have a christian pantheon Uh, Christianity or cosmology We've also been checked out by government psychiatrists and others who became christian

And they have found that the Devil right phenomenon the golden gates McDonald's all of it the portal the judgment. All of it is real What people say well, that's an oxymoron you said the dead and christ are raised after they die Interdimensionally, it doesn't matter. They're already in the future at that point. See it's it's more sophisticated Once you understand quantum mechanics Hold on You think a thousand years 500 years 20 years till the post tribulation rapture

Not the pre And then people are having the death experience now They're going in dimensionally to the future if you study the mathematics, it's incredible And then by the way, no one's ever postulated that I just understand it and people can say oh, that's crazy No, no, no once you figure all this out the sacred geometry people are like that's of the devil No, it's not the bible says the proof of god's design the proof that god's real is look in the heavens Look at god's creation Look at what we can do what we believe what we think about we can then later build

What that's creator level stuff. We're made in the image of god little g Think about how incredible that is It's very incredible and then think about the evidence in matter, but also living and non-living again, how We experience what our ancestors experienced through instincts through through crystallized Compacted memories race memory. It's not the same thing Then we live on through our children genetically as well and then not really build what we teach what we write

What we do lives on there's life shooting out at every angle By the way, that's very obtuse by the way info wars is doing well We're not in financial trouble like so much of other talk radio and other media period Media period is oversaturated. It's collapsing. It's in trouble. It's stuffed shirt. It's scripted teleprompter reading. It's dying Fair point We have been trying to expand in the face of the globalist because everything we do is so successful I have a responsibility. I realize

I realized this about nine years ago for really trying to get as big as possible and we've been doing it It's having a huge effect. What were you trying to do before we're victims of our own success because the satellites Uh, the fees the regulations the closed captioning The 15 to 16 million people that tune in and watch our free stream every day They're ruining us. Mm-hmm Is killing us And so I really want to be able to continue on I want to be able to expand but just to continue on and I don't want To go to info wars store.com and I'm doing this because I told

CJ I said make me plug twice an hour not one anemic plug at the end of the hour I mean really actually plug in every section These products really do sell themselves once you use them I barely have to sell them. I wanted to keep that Part at the end there in because it is him drinking the kool-aid about these new listeners And what have you yeah, of course wrestling with like why aren't we making 50 million dollars? Yeah, what the fuck is going on? But man He is out there. Okay. He is out there. So I've never heard sacred geometry

I've never heard before that once you understand quantum mechanics You'll realize that when people die for 10 minutes they go to the future they go to the future Right, they've also seen the golden gates and the judgment is real, but then they come back. It's totally real It's scientifically scientifically And mathematically proven that the post death judgment that you go through is real It's kind of like that movie Defending your life feature albert brooks under the street or it's like the movie flat liners. Nope defending your life It's a much better movie fair. Uh, yeah, that's why I'm talking about the original flat liners, of course

Oh, I only like the the remake I am Flabbergasted I that clip love it I fucking love it. So anytime somebody like him says quantum mechanics. You can already tune out Oh, yeah, because you're like you nope. Nope. You got nothing there. I'm shocked. Don't even I'm shocked. You remember the pronunciation Yeah, yeah, don't even say the word quantum because you're just gonna hurt yourself with it So now here's where it gets like fucking awesome for me is like, okay He starts that clip by saying the debate about the devil is over. It's over. It's over. It's as far as I'm concerned

That debate is done. Yeah, okay So then all that stuff about uh, you know, Joseph Campbell all these cultures Campbell and the whole nine yards, right? Let's let's not forget his band movie not the whole 10 yards right, right, right And these cultures they've shown That like the judgment is real and all that and science has shown that when you die Your consciousness goes forward to the post tribulation rapture. Yeah, then he gets on to sacred geometry They say that's of the devil. No, it's not. It's totally real

You know, it's real because when god said, uh, what's the the proof of seeing me he said look around So sacred geometry is obviously real. I only date girls who have tattoos of the fibonacci spiral And then of course it comes back to ads it's just like what is going on. He's just losing it. There's just this like I think that he's incredibly like At this point He's so confused I

What what do you say to somebody saying stuff like that? Well, I don't even mean about that that part is like you shouldn't be saying this on air That shouldn't be you shouldn't be saying this period. No, I dig it. I liked I read it up on stuff like that Like I read up on sacred geometry on how quantum mechanics proves that you're when you die your brain goes to the future and comes back I'm sure I've read uh blogs about it and stuff like that. Yeah, possible I I enjoy reading like pseudoscience and uh, like spiritualism and stuff like that. I like reading that stuff I don't believe it necessarily But I I feel so weird about it that I would never tell you what I know

I would never sit here and be like, oh, yeah, but oh you do do and like list off specifics Oh, that's not good doing that but he also believes it He needs to be less specific in the same way that that milgram experiment Yeah, if you hadn't said a milgram or talked about the electric shocks or whatever, right? Then he could be vague enough that like I can't disprove that that I can disprove He's too specific here. This is what crazy people believe Alex is a crazy person This isn't religion former department of defense psychiatrists who have become christians, right have officially proven

That's probably pecanic that the golden gates are real I did not know that pecanic probably told him that I did not know that because he is a state psychiatrist, right? That's the only person I know of at that I would just nah, maybe I don't know I always guess I assumed he's jewish, but I don't know but just because of the name Okay, so does he think that the hurricane he lived through happened because I might have thought he was jewish because he lives in florida There might be a bias on my part and I apologize for it. I don't know. I don't know anything about his life Except he lives in florida and he's uh big on manners

So let's let's get to this next clip. Um in this one. Alex is talking about how the chinese have Decided that they're going to start a new program where they have They're going to deport people to the golden gates. No no not quite They have a like a facebook kind of thing But where you can leave reviews of people and you'll get a social credit score This is an idea that they were throwing around. I don't think they've implemented it because it got roundly attacked by everybody Right. It turned into a great black mirror episode. Basically. Yeah With the next two years, we're going to implement it. It's going to be law. It started now 2016

That every political statement you make everything you buy everything you do will be fed through our database The equivalent of their nsa impossible And we'll be put into a social media Score if like you can pull that up china announces new Social credit score and then if you're not a good globalist, you can't buy yourself So before he gets to not a good globalist, you can't buy yourself the mark of the beast kind of yeah Yeah, but before before he gets into talking about how like everyone's going to do this and they're going to think it's cool Um, this is china. They had a one child policy for a really long time. Yeah, so like worked perfectly

Right, but as everybody knows if you want to talk about oppressiveness and like it's china This is not surprising to come like these ideas to be coming out of a pretty authoritarian state doesn't uh The rest of the world is not going to be be into it and turns out china wasn't no Good good episode black mirror good episode If you do you get lower prices Now it's peer pressure now if your friends aren't good communist You don't get a good social score. So now you shun them to ghettos

There's bbc china social credit Beijing sets up huge system And the bbc announces it like it's a good idea. It's not total tyranny. It is exactly what might happen to white people What he's describing is the current credit system we have now and it's only It's only incredibly offensive to black people in minorities and and the like Whereas this he's like this could even hurt white people. Are you guys crazy? There is a thread of that. Yeah, that's exactly What's going on that he's describing the system that we have now But it only hurts minorities. Yeah, there's something to that Uh, let's get to the end of this clip because it takes a twist that you're not going to expect. Okay

What's described in revelations So is the mark of the beast real? Yes, oh, it's been used as a blueprint whether or not the cosmology itself is true And i'm a christian, but i don't want to be associated with the establishment Pharisee state-run churches that are 501c3 Now even cnn got it right to their credit china's chilling plan to use social credit ratings to keep score on its citizens CNN's so weird man. They do so much bad and then sometimes they tell the truth in amazing ways Or i'll tell you why it's like rt. We'll talk about the bad stuff america does but not bad stuff russia does

CNN's run by the cia So so now he also knows that Yeah, he is aware of that. He knows that rt is run by the fsb. Yeah Okay What an idiot i i i oh boy. Oh boy. First of all, cnn is not run by the cia But but secondarily and if it was run by the cia they should sell it. They're not good at running it Yeah, or they do a much different job uh with the the content that they they put up Yeah, but be that as it may that indicates a clear awareness that alex knows that rt is run by russian government

And is a russian state outlet for propaganda and he as we covered in our last episode that we put out on the podcast Loves rt has been on a whole bunch of times. Uh saying very anti american stuff. Yeah, uh, what does that say alex? What does that say? What does that say? You dumbass what a dumb dumb prick. It's it's uh, he's like he's like the avatar of cognitive dissonance like he's some sort of Being come to us from the cognitive dissonance planet And he's teaching us what true in the same way that john ham is an alien who's taught us what true handsomeness really is So is alex teaching us what true cognitive dissonance can do to a person

Yeah, but it just baffles me the way that he reveals these things like because he can't not he thinks it all makes sense It doesn't though. He thinks it's all perfectly reasonable. And so why wouldn't he tell it to you? That's that mild schizophrenia shit. Yeah, that is that like the the ordered worldview that he has is so Yeah No, no, he thinks that everything he's saying is dead on despite the fact that it contradicts itself at every turn And even then and see and this is the other stuff where we're talking about him being a performance artist and the like But this shit is shit. He actually believes. Yes. This is real shit. He believes sacred geometry The fact that there's post tribulation rapture that your brain goes to when you die

If you die before the the tribulation and why have you yeah, I mean, this is not like this isn't I mean in the strictest sense this isn't propaganda. No, this is wackadoo shit This is a lunatic is what it is. This is the alex jones everybody signed up for right This is what we've all thought alex jones was for the longest time It's fucked up that like he can have that half of his audience that aren't robots That listen to this and they're like this guy seems like yeah, he gets it. Yeah, or or they're like this is fun That's true. Actually. I've been working on a theory that and I'll lay this out in a future Thing that I don't believe that you can find alex jones funny unless you subconsciously agree with him

I don't I don't believe or you're just not paying attention. That's possible too Those are the only possibilities as I've been getting some responses from people Former former aj's No, people who are like I listen to him because they think he's fucking hilarious man And like you you just can't be paying attention then right or you agree with him and you don't want to admit you agree with him Because then you're gonna have to deal with like oh really? Yeah, you want to defend this? Everyone knows that's too hard. You don't want to fucking do that. I love I love this. I think it's hilarious when alex jones

inflames anti-semitism and And anti Everybody but white people beliefs. I think it's hilarious Although at the same time we do laugh a shit ton about it. But so there is that but it's in a uh, it's in a different We laugh a different laugh than those people Yeah, one filled with hate and rage right and uh and revelation of what he's actually talking about Yeah, um, so anyway, we're back to the rapture being conspiracy in this next clip enjoy

I'm not up here judging anybody that's in the system I'm in it too, but I'm in it to try to educate and try to inform people But it's nowhere you can read John the revelator on the Isle of Patmos The beast will wage war against the saints and will overcome them They'll be this great following away before It'll be the greatest coming to christ and to god ever as the whole world turns against the beast more and more And then he starts wiping out billions of people a third of the world's population

Half the earth's surface burned what could giant columns of flame mountains huge metal insects dropping bombs? I mean, it's all in there Is it huge wars? Russia in the middle east huge confrontations It's all being lined up. You can't deny the soviet union did that's what they called themselves in biblical times in biblical times and Then christ comes back at the battle of armageddon And then the dead in christ are raised

I mean a five-year-old could read that but you're so deceived Yes, that's true Because the last hundred plus years the world council and national council of churches has globalized the christian faith And come in and taught new dogmas that were not known in christianity ever In the 40s german christians didn't resist hitler and thought it was the end of the world. They thought he was the antichrist In the 2017 American christians didn't resist hitler. He isn't there and listen christians get so mad at me I'm not saying your preacher's wrong if he teaches

Pretribulation rapture. I'm not saying he's a false teacher. You are sure he knows more bible verses than I do All I know is the whole bible christians have to stand up the israelites had to stand up against evil and do the right thing On threat of death and many times get killed. Why now do we get teleported up? Fair enough I guess that's I I mean, it's again if you create imaginary arguments to argue against your argument is probably right It's too weird for us to sit here and and have him be like the post versus pre-tribulation rapture And we're just I don't care. Yeah. What is it? What are we? What are we doing to unpack this? We're not we're not

Why are we doing? I don't think we're unpacking it. I think what we're doing is I we need It's important that our audience knows that he spends a lot of time on stuff like this Right because it is like there is way too much of a focus in the mainstream. I believe the coverage of alex jones on I mean, there are important issues his hucksterism his uh, his Desperate salesmanship and review his support of trump those sorts of things are important facets to him But his religion, uh, which is not christianity. It's bananas. Um is very important To the the big picture of who he is as a as a broadcaster and as a propagandist, right? So it's so weird that he does that on the show. It's so weird sunday show. So weird sunday show

Oh, so weird. Do the it's not it's not that we're like alex believes in the post-trib. Let's just fucking argue for the pre-trib for fun Right It's more just like let's let people hear this what because it's fucking wild So now I do want you to argue for the pre-trib for fun. All right, of course it happens before That was a lot of fun. Why would god moving on? Why would god put the faithful through that? That's horrifying That's a very that's a very dickish god. That would be like a dude. Well Why would god put anybody through anything? Well to make them stronger. I don't know

Anyway, we have one more clip here alex is fucking like in this clip. I think we get the revelation that uh I got it. Okay. Uh that no, don't don't worry that this whole day's show you're gonna give me that and not like Goat Giscond. Come on. Goat Giscond was okay So I think that at the beginning of this clip we see where all of this comes from this day of uh, just rambling about the uh, The revelation and tribulation and what have you I think it's because someone keeps bothering him And uh, then he rambles on for a while about hypocrites or something, of course And I'm not on some high horse, but if I get lectured one more time By a Pharisee about me getting mad sometimes and using mild french, which I try not to do but I'm so real. I do it occasionally

I'm gonna throw up. I'm so real out of your eye before you talk about the stick in my eye I'm ready to die for the unborn I'm ready to stand up against the globalist. I'm nothing special, but I don't like evil I know my heart's right. Where's yours? Because I don't see the manifestation of resistance against tyranny. I see people in a coma the donor card So you want to go to church? I don't know what they're all upright and good and at night. We know what you're doing I almost want to go do bad stuff. So I'm not with you all the fakes I'm racked by conscience. I'm racked by trying to be the best person I can be

And even having to study the globalists in war game. They're evil. I have to get in their mindset And I feel sinful even studying the enemy. I want a good and evil permeates all I just know that great evil is upon us and it's only going to intensify for the decades coming forward It may be 50 years a hundred years out. My gut tells me it's more like 10 years I mean stuff is moving quick folks and it's scary But like Nineveh we could get a reprieve God was going to judge Nineveh But because Jonah didn't want to go Jonah didn't want to be a prophet Jonah didn't want to go out and tell the truth

Jonah didn't want to get in people's faces, but because Jonah did it the people listened. They got a hundred year reprieve It seems very The volcanoes and earthquakes that destroy that civilization and archaeology shows it happened Okay Archaeology shows it happened archaeology does not prove that uh, Jonah was in a whale and archaeology proved that god gave them a hundred year rest What's this in the fossil record? note here Call Larry Nichols

The reason that this is important I left this in because it's kind of rambly and nonsensical, but This is the beginning of a narrative that will become very important In his support of trump and so you could argue that this is a soft launch Okay in some ways this idea of a reprieve like Nineveh He uses those specific languages about trump that trump is that reprieve That is god giving us a chance to get out from under these globalists Gotcha, he further makes it more robust in his metaphor that what trump is allowing us to do is get our head above water

And take a breath before we have to go and fight this Shark I guess i'm not entirely sure where it works in the metaphor Okay, but that this is the first time that he has used that metaphor Uh in the context of like the globalists and what we're what we're doing moving forward Right and he will co-opt it from this religious perspective On turn it into a trump thing. Yep Wow People's gods sure are weird

If they appreciate a lot of weird shit to do if they appreciate this That is that's a god who that's a god who's not paying attention. Yeah That's a god who's checked out. That's a god who should become a policy wonk. I'll tell you that right now That's a god who is not buying caveman That's where all the ad that's where the traffic's coming from. That doesn't have any dollars He wants to listen gods god's got his own holy bot farm. Yeah. Anyway, let's wrap this up Uh, because that's the end of this. Okay, uh, but it's thrilling that we can get that Admission from alex that his traffic has gone up and no extra money bots

He knows that rt is a propaganda outlet and he spends an entire day on his show bickering about the revelation And uh various forms of the rapture and doing that whole game where he's like Hey, if you believe in a pre-tribulation your preacher's not uh full of shit, but also it's a globalist plot Trying to pacify christians. What are you talking about? UNESCO was involved. I'm not saying he's a bad guy He's just part of the globalist conspiracy to destroy all life on this planet at one point He says they sound a lot like collaborators to me. What are you doing pick a side? Pick a side if you're bizarre, uh nonsense god. I want to I see now. I want him to quit Just quit broadcasting alex

Write your own holy book You'll get a look if fucking joseph smith can get a worldwide religion. Fuck. Yeah alex jonesianism True shit tons of people would do that shit. Yeah, I I just don't think he could write a coherent thread I think you need a ghost and he needs a ghost writer. Yeah alex We are available And if you'd like to get us you can reach us at our website knowledge fight.com Send us an email knowledge fight at gmail.com write your holy book alex You could uh, you could reach out to us on twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight alex

We'll write that holy book for you or we're on facebook and like I said, there's a lot of uh, uh writing content Also your blog. Yeah, uh every thursday and every day there will be Little pieces of what the fuck alex jones is talking about that day If you can help boost them out there, it would help a great deal and I appreciate it And then you could also go to itunes. It's true. That's where our podcast is you could subscribe to it You could leave a review. You could give us some stars preferably five Oh, shit. What I just had a thought what thought so we know about one thing that alex jones believes in

Or alex jones's dad believes in right hiv denial hiv denialism One other guy believes in that stuff. Oh, shit. He's a guy who doesn't hang up pictures. No What fucking person would believe in do both of those things? I see No reason to not believe that john rapaport is alex jones's dad Oh, shit. Now think about this. Oh, shit the teeth Come into play. No He's a dentist. All right. He's a dentist. Okay, but he's fits of depression. He's knocked out all of his teeth And that's why he needs dentures. No, okay. I'm gonna go even further. Okay. All right

alex's dad died Oh, no, right. You need you needed a replacement daddy. Oh, no, no, no alex's dad wants to live forever How do you live forever? You download your consciousness into some false teeth race memory? Exactly And then implant those teeth into john rapaport incisor memory That's probably what happened. I think we solved this. I think we solved it So alex jones's dad and john rapaport. I invite you to go fuck yourself Andy and chansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex i'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you