Knowledge Fight - #1030: Mystery Babylon 3 & 4

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan continue to learn about the secret religion that controls the world from Bill Cooper's groundbreaking series Mystery Babylon, this lesson mostly dealing with phalluses and Atlantis.

Music It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge fight knowledge I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge and your knowledge fight Need money Stop it Andy and Andy and Kansas It's time to pray and the in Kansas you're on the air Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for ya. What's your bright spot today, buddy? I guess my bright spot today is that there's a new season of Taskmaster coming up. Ooh. And Jason Manzoukas is on it.

Oh, I'm so excited. And I am so thrilled for whatever that's gonna be. Like, he's such a chaotic, fun kind of element. I am so thrilled for whatever that's gonna be. Like he's such a chaotic, fun kind of element. And I think he has, as someone who's listened to a number of podcasts that he has, you know, he has guested on and been a part of and seen a number of his pieces of work, he has high status in his comedic persona. He performs and it is a trouncing of the people around him. And to see how that's going to interact with a taskmaster and Greg, I find I don't know

what I should expect. And I'm interested in that. So I'm excited. I could not be more excited because the energy is similar to like a caster in terms of One and just sheer funniness and steamroll ability like once he gets going get out of his way sure You're you're not involved there, but James a caster is also a younger man and so him and Greg's Kind of thing was like a teacher student kind of like like a I was you, but I don't want you to get away with stuff kind of thing, and it's great.

Yeah, these are two old men. This is not a student. I'm Jason fucking Manzoukas. Yeah, yeah, I see the energy that he would have with Alex and just crushing him. I see that being very easy to imagine. Yep. But with Greg, ooh, who knows?

I don't know if there could be any human being more suited to trying to cleverly solve absurd tasks and making it electric to watch, right? Sure, and someone who like in the studio bits will pose a great challenge for Greg to maintain his authority. Spectacular. Yeah, so that'll be great.

I'm excited. What's your bright spot? My bright spot, I think I could say a few things, but honestly today, I'm gonna go as mundane as humanly possible. This is my Vonnegut You know if things are nice say things are nice, right? I took the hell out of a shower Okay, I took such a great shower today. You know when you walk out of a shower, and you feel like clean That's generally how I feel but like but like there like, there are no bacteria, there's no, there's no even invisible.

There's, I'm, I'm Mr. Clean. I am this kind of clean and I just, it was just great. It felt great. And so I'm acknowledging that sometimes that is a great feeling. Let me ask you a few questions about your routine. Sure. What type of shampoo do you use? My wife gets me whatever shampoo is from some place that makes good shampoo.

Is it something that has a mentholating effect? Like you get a tingle in your head when you use your shampoo? No. Okay. No, and I think that she has something to do with that. She buys stuff that's very smart. Because my hair is on its way out. It's saying goodbye.

And she's getting me stuff that's like, not just yet. Not just yet. We're hanging on, buddy. That stuff that's the maintenance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The stuff that's part glue. Probably. Okay. Next question. Liquid soap or bar? Liquid soap. Okay. Lufa. Lufa. Lufa. Those are the only way to go. Okay. And then I guess my only other question is in the shower How regularly do you wash your feet? Uh every time every time yeah, okay? I didn't used to wash my feet at all yeah

Until like probably three or four years ago and for some reason three or four years ago I really did just start being like you know I should take care of my skin sure you know I'd be lotion up do do all this other stuff every single time I wash my feet in the in the shower yeah I think of that there's an Andy Cap cartoon comic strip mm-hmm where he's stepping on a bar of soap and slipping and he says I wish there was a better way to do this I Think about that every time a terrible that comic strip is it was And yeah, yeah, so anyway glad glad he had a good shower. Yeah, that's great So today Jordan we got an episode to go over. Mm-hmm. We're gonna be talking. We're going back to mystery Babylon Oh, all right. We're gonna be talking about I wanted to

To keep making progress through this. Yeah, I think that one of the things that is characterized our show Unfortunately is a tendency that I have which is to lose threads Sure, I will get out of the bark on something and then we just you know, I will get back to it Hmm, and so I wanted to make sure we didn't do that. We stayed moving forward. Okay. As we refocus on our primary ding-dong, we also make progress with discovering

what the mystery religions are all about. Sure. Because I think that Alex believes some of this stuff too. Yeah, it would make sense, right? I mean like this is part of his cosmology. Yeah, he was a fan of Bill Cooper. This is Weird esoteric nonsense. Yeah So I think I think there's a value in maintaining some some momentum on this Yeah, and it's a little bit like a melange too

It pulls from so much stuff that of course It must flow of course, but like Alex pulls from enough of it that even if he Isn't like directly inspired by it. It's from the same pool of bullshit. Mm-hmm Yeah, so we will look at three and four episodes three and four of mystery Babylon today, because 3 is a dud. 4, also not great, but there's a little bit more meat on the bones for us to talk about, but 3, holy shit. Not enough mystery. Nothing. Nothing is happening.

Holy shit. It's boring. Just a discussion of various Egyptian deities. Great. Oh boy. Anyway, we'll get down to business on this, but first let's take a little moment to of various Egyptian deities. Great. Ooh. Oh boy. Anyway, we'll get down to business on this, but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Ooh, that's a great idea. So, shout out to Joy! I've been listening since 2019 and I start every workday and road trip with...

Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk! Thank you very much! Thank you! I think there might have been something after that with that you cut off. I believe it was you. I think whenever I copy and pasted it it I lost the Y-O-U. Alright.

Well next, the consortium of women who convinced Alex that he impregnated them with a gaze and scammed him out of $300 apiece. Thank you so much, Your Honor. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And Nutmeg from Oregon says happy birthday and happy almost wedding day to my very own Alex.

Does sharing your name with a person give you a deeper understanding of their inner chaos, Alex? Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to all the wonks at High Score Saloon. Thank you so much, you're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk.

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Yes, thank you very much. So I think that one of the things that I'm trying to focus on, like I said, is doing these things that you mean to do and you lose sight of. And so Mystery Babylon has existed in our heads for a long time, to the point where some people will use shout out names that sass about how we need to do it. And I feel like checking that off the list is important to me. And unfortunately the experience of going through it, like I said, three is, if I were listening to it for sport, just for fun, I would be gone.

I would tune out. It's that dull. It makes sense. Um, except for one part, towards the end of three. The third lecture of Mystery Babylon. I mean, he's essentially reading somebody else's book to you too. A lot of it is just that Manly P. Hall book. Right. That is true.

So there's a lot of that that's, yeah, it's going to be dull. He's reading a dull book. It's kind of the way that Alex will read a headline and then yell a couple things. Bill's doing that, but with the text of this Manly P Hall book about Egypt and Freemasons. And so that is, you start to feel like, why am I even listening to this? I should just read the Manly P Hall book. But then there's every now and again there's moments that are like, Uh-oh, this could be interesting.

And it turns out, towards the end of this third episode, Bill reveals that this has to do with Atlantis. Oh, hell yeah. Osiris is the primitive revelation of the first race. But as Isis was born upon the fourth day, we find this tradition coming into Egypt through the Atlantean mystery school of which ISIS is the symbol, and you will find at the base of all of these things about Atlantis. Hitler believed in Atlantis.

So you know it's good. In this country the Freemasons established the city of Atlanta as the new Atlantis. And all of this will come together for you. It took me many, many, many years of study deep into the night, and trying to discuss this with other people who had no idea what I was talking about. So most of it was put together in loneliness late at night. Then when I established my organization known as the Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence, many others began to help and furnish bits and pieces of information.

And we have succeeded, folks, in infiltrating the lodge. We have members in the lodge who feed us information constantly. Too much, in fact. Members... Seems like they're making up a lot of it. ...who we taught how to take an oath so that the oath of Freemasonry would not be binding upon them. Words, mainly.

...have to play sometimes by the rules of the enemy in order to beat the enemy. And we are beating the enemy now. So I thought that this was an interesting clip amidst a lot of rambling about and like just stories about Osiris and Isis and what have you. Because this is so Alexi. This is, I'm fighting imaginary, I'm fighting ghosts. And I have devised a way that you can take an oath and not mean it so you could get into the, you could get into the basins without giving up your soul. Crazy. Right.

An absolutely crazy thing to say. I have discovered lying. What? What are you talking about? No one else has been able to infiltrate the lodge because they didn't know how to lie. Unreal. Unreal. But that is so much that somewhere within this man is a belief that there is a cosmic contract. Yes, and magic. Yeah, that you cannot that like you physically in the universe we inhabit cannot break once you establish this thing, or you will receive unearthly consequences. And it

does seem to imply that he and his Kaji members, the citizen journalists, whatever, intelligence, joint intelligence, yeah, the they that is where he'll teach you how to take this oath with that and it also costs $45 to join course it does so there does seem to be a little bit of a little bit of a scammy thing going on, but I Think that there's a real pathos I think there's a real human thing that he's expressing when he says that I stayed up long nights I know reading this stuff and talking to people who had no idea what I was talking about

yep I think that there is some real feeling of like I was I was alone and then I found conspiracy folks yep and everyone knew what I was talking about I didn't sound crazy I found my people yeah yeah I was talking about. And it didn't sound crazy. I found my people. Yeah. Yeah. I was listening to that. And I thought, because the moment he brought up Atlantis and Atlanta, I was like, we're off to a great start. But then I immediately went to Atlanta, Ted Turner. And then I went to Duke Phillips.

And I was like, oh, if Bill Cooper were in The Critic, Duke Phillips would fulfill all of his ideas basically, right? Duke is life. Like it would be a Duke-tastrophe, what we're dealing with here. A quizabuck. It would be. Like he would get it. I think it makes perfect sense.

Yeah. So like I said, the third one is not, there's not much going on, and I found myself almost falling asleep through parts of it. But as a refresher, I guess, what do we know? Ooh, as a refresher of what? Can you help, as the pupil, the eye of Horace. Oh my God. Can you tell me what we, a recap what we've established I think

Because here's the important parts to me. Okay, what we've established is that he is talking about something They believe yes that he does not even though I think he kind of does I think he kind of does Yeah, he is also talking about something that he's older than Christianity. Yes, but he believes is Subjected to or subjugated by Christianity. He believes that Christianity is correct and that they believe that Christianity is a perversion of their mystery religion. Right. Then he believes that there is, like, I don't know if there's a pantheon so much within the

mystery Babylon. Here, this is something that I can throw around from three. Okay. Lecture three. And that is that there is not so much a pantheon as all of these deities are metaphors for things. Okay, that's that's kind of what I was worried about here. I wasn't sure exactly how far he was talking about with the gods.

Right, so there's like an esoteric truth and an exoteric truth. Sure. And the esoteric truth is known to the initiates and the select few, and that is that like, there isn't actually an Isis or an Osiris metaphors for things on in the blah blah blah blah blah sure yeah the exoteric belief is whatever you want to believe the cult doesn't care yeah that does make you believe that Horace is a person or Osiris is a person they don't give a shit yeah you can believe that if you're already in right yeah or you're out

you're the exo you're the you're the yeah yeah all right your beliefs and the reality of deity and all this stuff isn't really important to them mm-hmm so that's kind of the way that this the mythology is is understood and then from there it really does feel like everything else is just like these words sound similar You can see that it's similar there is a lot of that yeah that seems to be the Mason's Centerstone of the building which which is why I think it's hard for me to remember specifics after that because once we get into a Oh you these two sound alike and that's it then I just shut down I don't I don't also absorb

the other information about why the sun and then sundial or like some, yeah, it's ridiculous. Especially when like you have these words that sound similar and they're being presented as being connected and that's wrong. Right. When you have failed on that level, it calls into question your ability to assess a lot of the other information. Mm-hmm. And that's a problem for bill Yeah, so we start the fourth lecture. Okay, and this one has a sponsor Well, wait, is that okay? The other ones didn't have a sponsor right so far Okay, and so I was I was intrigued The hour of the time ladies and gentlemen is brought to you tonight by the pilot connection.

That's the pilot connection. How would you feel if I were to tell you that income tax is voluntary? And if you know how to untax yourself, you would never have to file another income tax return, pay income tax, or keep the records associated with those who are termed taxpayers. So, this episode was recorded in 1993. And it may come as no surprise that in June 1996, the two people who ran the pilot connection were sentenced to 17 and 14 years in prison, respectively. Yeah, that sounds about right.

Yes. According to a Department of Justice release, that brought the total number of people associated with the pilot connection who had been charged with criminal offenses to 34. They made millions of dollars selling fake documents to people that they claimed they could just send to the IRS to make them legally designated as non-tax payers, which was obviously a scam. It's unsurprising that this is the kind of sponsor that Bill could have access to. And that kind of lineage definitely has trickled down to Alex.

It's honestly pretty surprising that Bill wouldn't have gotten in some trouble for being an active participant in promoting this yeah because it is mail fraud yep it's not just a tax issue no like this this is this is fraud active participant in it he says that he has used this himself I'm not just a member oh that's your dodge he was also a victim um yeah but he's also clearly making a cut yeah that's your dodge. He was also a victim Yeah, but he's also clearly making a cut yeah, that's definitely true You know he's a middleman even if he is a victim of the the scam and it's it's like okay We're talking about the fucking esoteric religion. That's behind the world Order in history and this is your sponsor. Yeah, that's bad. Yeah

order in history. This is your sponsor. That's bad. Yeah. Yeah, you know, that is like throughout American history. Because you're right, there is that lineage that's going through Alex now. There is a person who is like, here's what people want, to do crime. Here's what also people want, to not feel like they're doing crime. So how do I tell people to do crime and also make them feel like they're doing crime? So how do I tell people to do crime and also make them feel like they're not doing crime? And that's my business, right? Well, even if you take it away from crime, it's just like people like to scam.

Yeah, I mean, get away with some, crime is as far as legal is concerned, more like just get one over on somebody. Right. You know? Yeah, like Alex just get one over on somebody. Right. You know? Yeah, like, you know, Alex... Look at all these idiots paying taxes. I have the pilot connection, so I mailed in a thing.

I don't have to pay taxes like the dumb-dums here, you know? Yeah, Alex likes to terrify people about how, like, the money system is gonna collapse and everything and then he sells them gold. Yep. Like it's, it's, this is all just, you know, false promises and it's great. Here's what the smart people are doing. Yeah, and then you go, oh shit. Yeah, but what you're really doing is selling this packet of fake documents and stuff to people who are probably going to get in trouble themselves.

Like what, what do you even say at that trial? Oh yeah, I guess it is a crime. How about that? All right, well, 17 years, that sounds about right for me. Cool. So he gets into the actual, the meat of the subject. Gotcha. And so the mystery religions,

they believe that basically God yeah put us in ignorance. Okay, and that Satan saved humanity from the bondage of ignorance Oh, okay, so they're doing that okay, gotcha the light bringer stuff right right right now. This might sound cool Well, I mean the kids like it, but it's not oh no Because the mystery religion of Babylon believes that man was held prison in the bonds of ignorance in the Garden of Eden by an unjust, vindictive God. Lucifer through his agent Satan, and many believe them to be the same entity, and that's okay. Lucifer through his agent Satan released man from the bonds of ignorance with the gift of intellect,

and through the use of that intellect man himself will become God. And that's the heart and soul of the dogma of the mystery religion of Babylon. Now, since I am taking the content of all of these episodes directly from their own teachings and their own writings so that you'll know that this is exactly what they believe, sometimes it may sound to you like these are the good guys, but remember they are the ultimate perfection of deception. And they have intentionally made it this way so that they can get people to join them and stay with them until they're so deeply involved and committed that it's too late. And that is why the degrees of initiation. So, stick it out and you'll find out that these guys are the greatest liars, deceivers, manipulators, and scum that exist upon the face of the earth.

Typhon, in their teachings, is the desire of the few pitted against the good of the many. Now, if you understand what I just said, you understand that these are communists, socialists. Yeah. Wow. This is all communism. Was it communism pre-, like the 700 BC era or wherever? That was also communism?

International socialism. Ah, damn. They've been running this record for a long time. I like the retreat of the idea that like you have, hey, you know, they sound good. Yeah. But trust me, eventually we'll get to the part where this is bad. Come on. It sounds very innocuous to just say that people will use their intellect in order to Be godlike. Yeah, but that's bad. Yeah and

Of the devil and communists sure You know, here's what I here's what I think coming from it from the opposite direction, right? So he's from the I am a Christian direction and then the the God thing, right? So I'm coming from this direction Okay, mystery religions. You're telling me the intellect can't allow me to become God and stuff. What are we talking about becoming God? Because if we're talking becoming God, I want some powers. Right.

You know, like when we were at, when I was at the witch store getting your birthday present, there were two people honestly and very seriously discussing the powers of witchcraft that they are going to obtain. Which makes sense to me. Yes, you're gonna get powers. Of course. Right? It's only if you're just telling me like, oh, you're gonna be a piece or something. Like, nah, nah, nah, nah. I don't need that. Well, I think some of the powers may be things like understanding the processes of nature. Ehh boo! In order to act in ways that are in accordance with that so you can like maximize crop yields

and various things like that. Know when. I want to catch a leprechaun. Okay. That's going to be tougher. Yeah. Yeah, I think. That's my bar for all world religions yeah catch

a leprechaun I I don't like to like shit on people's fun you know in terms of magic yeah yeah I think that having some fun with the world is pretty necessary yeah and I think that however you get, I'm not gonna sit here and be like, you witches can't do shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That seems like a boring and assholeish way to go about life. You're not bothering me, I'm not bothering you. At the same time, I think that if someone makes an affirmative statement that they can do magic, I must see the magic. 100%. You gotta do it. Yeah. Yeah. And if you're going to insist on some kind of world that I must adhere to based on that magic, I need to see you shoot lightning

bolts or something. I'll join your team if you shoot lightning bolts. Like I think of it as a positive. If you can shoot lightning bolts, I'm on your team. Right. Right. I'll join a lightning bolt team. Why not? can shoot lightning bolts right that sounds fun. Mm-hmm a lot of my beliefs about the world are based on Sort of truths that we've uncovered sure and a lot of those are called into question when someone can shoot lightning out of Their hand yeah, everything changes, and so I will reassess some of my prior assumptions totally some of the baselines I think it's fair. Yeah.

I'm coming with open hearts and open eyes. I want you to shoot light. I want to be on your team. Because currently, my team has a dearth of lightning shooters. And I can handle at least one or two of them. I'll even let you shoot me with the lightning a little bit. Totally. You're now getting a little jolt.

Hey, that'd be fun. I'm, eh, people do that for Zuck stuff too. A little wake up? Let's have a good time. Totally! You now get a little jolt? Hey, that'd be fun. People do that for Zuck stuff too. Let's have a good time. So he mentioned Typhon in there and that's another just another member of the Egyptian gods and stuff. It will be used as a stand-in for Christianity. Okay. So that's the metaphor that it is going to take. Right. It's the enemy of the mystery religions. They don't like typhoon. Gotcha. Okay. Weird. Yeah. They got, they got a, like, okay, if you don't have any real gods and your idea is that the intellect is going to do the thing. How is Christianity a perversion of that?

You know what I mean? I think that they would view it as a perversion of it because it's a limiting. It's a co-opting of this myth, mystical truth. But it does kind of run counter to what Bill has already said too, which is the like, the exoteric truth of like, if you want to believe that like these images are humans, are individuals like Jesus, per se, then the mystery school should have no problem with that. Yeah, it seems to have a problem with Christianity, but not with all the other like personifications of hidden truths, right? Which is strange.

It almost seems like he has a persecution complex. Almost like he created an enemy specifically for himself. Yeah, almost like he's fighting ghosts and has figured out how to lie about them. Strange. Cool. But do you want to pay taxes? Of course you don't. Send Bill some money. So the, a lot of the people who have similar beliefs to Bill, maybe some of the people who have helped him not feel so alone in the quiet hours of the night don't like Jewish people so much. Oh wow. And a part of that is that the Masonic master builder, Hiram the Bith, is seen as Jewish.

And so Bill has to counter this or address this here. Oh boy. Oh boy. I believe Typhon is the spirit of dissension and discord that breaks up unity of purpose by setting factions against each other so that great issues lose the name of action. The desire for riches, pump, power, and—listen to this, folks—sovereignty, by which this evil genius was obsessed, reveals the temptation by which humanity is deflected from its ultimate goal and led into the byways of sorrow and despair. Typhon, the queen of Ethiopia, and the seventy-two conspirators

represent the three destructive powers preserved to modern Freemasonry as the murderers of the master builder Hiram Abith. You will see that Hiram Abith was never murdered. In fact, in the Bible you will see that when the Temple of Solomon was completed, he went back home to Tyre. But in the Freemason legend, Hiram Abiff, the master builder, was killed and the Temple was never completed. So, everybody is blaming all of this upon the Jews. It is not the Jews, folks, because all of this is a front its symbology for what they really really mean Hiram Abiff was really folks Jacques de Malay Several shows down the road because we have lots and lots of information to go

through before you put it all together. I guarantee this will not make sense a couple shows from now. There's no way. No, you have to tie all this together. There is actually a point where Bill's like, it's not the Jews, it's some Jews. Nailed it. Nailed it. There we go. There we go. Yeah, there is a certain element of tap the sign to, it's not the Jews, it's some Jews. Nailed it. Nailed it. There we go.

There we go. Yeah, there is a certain element of tap the sign. It's not the, tap the sign. It's not the Jews this time, god damn it. So Hiram Abif is a mythical character in Masonic lore who is the chief architect of Solomon's Temple. He gets confronted by three fellow builders who demand to know his architectural secrets. What are the master Mason's secrets But he refuses to tell them what he knows, so they kill him. The idea

is supposed to be that he was the carrier of the secret Masonic word and that that secret died with him and was replaced by a fill-in word. And the Masonic tradition from then on doesn't doesn't have the same secret right higher Mabiff had right right but what they have is good enough right Jacques de Molay was the last head of the Knights Templar. There's no real way that these two figures can be the same person. But well one isn't real. Timeline is a little strange

But in the 1700s some branches of Freemasonry began to believe that de Malais while he was in charge of the Knights Templar Had come across some secret information at Solomon's temple He had discovered the stuff that was supposed to have died with Hiram Abif right and those secrets were then passed down from him right through Masonic tradition. So that's where this is coming from, that they're the same person. Last Crusade shit. Gotcha. And a lot of this is still just from that Manly P Hall book.

He's really just reading that stuff. And that's why it kind of doesn't make sense. Like a lot of it is, like, some of it naturally is, I'm playing clips, I'm not playing the whole thing. Sure. But even if you listen to the whole thing, a lot of it does not connect. Yeah. Because he's taking just chunks of this book and reading it. Yeah.

Um, and there's, it's not gonna make sense in a couple episodes. I don't think it will. I have faith there'll be something. Maybe. Here's what I always like about whenever people are talking about somebody else's religion, whether it's real or fake. They're always taking it very seriously. They never really account for, are there Christmas and Easter Mystery Babylon people? People who don't really... They're culturally Mystery Babylon.

Like, hey man, we don't actually believe in all of this sun and solar, we're like, we don't even think false cognates make any sense either, but we, you know, you just go along to get along kind of thing. This is just how I was raised. Yeah, yeah. I was raised in Mystery Babylon. Like, why are you, why are you judging me for this? I'm not, like, you know?

Uh huh. Yeah. I don't want to destroy you, I just, uh. I just I just you're the one making us enemies Do you understand you're the one making us enemy? I am over here. Just like having a good time This is you bill. Yeah, they're trying to do crusades alone. I Do think that there is something ultimately? Incredibly funny if we go through all of this and the end result is like, hey, you know what? This mystery Babylon sounds pretty normal.

Actually, I'm sold. If it's even a stealthy evangelical thing for mystery Babylon. I assure you it's not. I'm trying to start a religion. Once again, I do think Bill has not done a great job of convincing me that this is a mystery cult that is evil and has run the world. But you know, there's a lot of episodes left. Sure. So he has plenty of time. Yeah.

So the mystery school, they have set out some objectives. Their objectives are chiefly to get rid of ignorance, superstition and fear. And that may sound cool, kids. But when you understand what that actually means, it's no good. Now, these three destructive powers preserved to the modern mystery school known as Freemasonry as the murderers of the master builder Hyrum Abith who was really Jacques de Malay are ignorance, superstition and fear, what they call the destroyers of all good things. When you get even deeper into their teachings, you find out that ignorance,

superstition and fear stand for the state, the church and the mob. What? And those are the things that they have sworn to destroy. Wait what? Substitute themselves as the ruler of the world in a benevolent despotism, a totalitarian socialist state. Because from the very beginning these people have been pure, true, communist, socialist. So it's communism.

We're getting that nailed down pretty strongly. Yeah, it's feeling like that. So yeah, the three builders that killed Hiram Abif and are the enemies of the master builder are ignorance, superstition, and fear, which really translate to the state, the church, and the mob. Right. That makes sense somehow.

It doesn't really, because the state doesn't have to operate from ignorance. The church can be deeper than superstition. I guess. And mobs aren't the only things you associate with fear. I think Bill associates fear with the state quite a bit. He associates fear with the state quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. He associates fear with the church too. Yeah. You're afraid of God.

You have a fear of God. I don't know. This doesn't make sense to me. No, it feels very arbitrary and very ex to grindy. You know, it is very much like these are the things that I have personally chosen because I don't like them. Not like these are the Mystery Babylon teachings. Yeah.

I mean, the thing, like that just doesn't even make sense. So why would you wrap it in the mysticism part? Right? Like why even bother? I don't know. If you're against the state, church, and the mob,

that's everybody, first off. That's literally everybody. That's literally everybody. Yeah, the mob that's everybody first off that's literally everybody yeah the mob as like Bill is kind of understanding it it's everybody it is everybody as a thing yeah right so so why not why bother with the like ignorance and fear part just be like hey we're going after everybody where it's not like us or something you know but I actually think that maybe there's a way to interpret this that looks a little bit better.

And that is creating a world where the state doesn't operate from a mode of keeping people ignorant. Sure. Like a state that has more transparency and has more accessibility to people. Sure. Like a state that has more transparency and has more accessibility to people. Sure. A church that doesn't operate off of superstition and a population that isn't chiefly motivated by fear. I think that creating a state that's characterized that way is actually fairly positive. I agree. And it doesn't involve killing anybody. No, no. And I think this is another thing that I find fascinating about when somebody else is talking way is actually fairly positive. I agree. And it doesn't involve killing anybody. No, no.

And I think this is another thing that I find fascinating about when somebody else is talking about somebody else's religion with a real like, fuck these guys kind of tone is, do you see that right there? There is a space for interpretation. If you are saying that the ISF is actually the state, the church and the mob, then maybe there's another Freemason sect over there that's like, actually, it's blankety blankety blank. That's just as reasonable as you belining this group

for believing this shit. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just, you're just choosing arbitrary shit that you hate. It's you, Bill. Yeah, Bill. You hate communists and probably Jews. Let's just get over that.

Yeah. Yeah. So the mystery schools were the original college. Communists and probably Jews. Let's just get over that. Yeah So the mystery schools were the original college, uh-huh and They taught you about dicks Run by Nimrod in the city of Babylon Rod and The college was a college of priests who practiced the religion of the sun. The college, the adepts, the initiates, the priests were scattered all over the world when Seth, the son of Noah, came with an army and defeated Nimrod. And this is where the legend really comes from, because Seth chopped Nimrod

up into little pieces and scattered him all over the land. In the legend of the Osirian Cycle, Cyrus was chopped into fourteen pieces. Isis came to put him back together again and bring him to life. She could find all the pieces save one, the phallus, or the generative force. It is now known as the lost word of Freemasonry. And the phallus or the generative force. It is now known as the lost word of Freemasonry. And the phallus is represented by the obelisk, the monolith. It is the penis of Osiris, the generative force. It represents the lost word of Freemasonry. It represents the Luciferian philosophy. Yeah. George Washington also. Yeah. Yeah.

So Osiris was murdered and chopped up into a bunch of pieces. His dick was eaten by a fish. That'll happen. So Isis was unable to find it when she recovered all the parts of his body. This gave the Nile a holy quality because the dick. The dick is in there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

And then Osiris made, or Isis made Osiris a fake dick for Momification which is permanently erect right and that became you know piece of tradition But yeah, the lost word is Osiris's dick. Yeah, and that's the teaching You know sometimes when you go back through myth, here's here's an interesting thing that I so somebody just put out a new abridgment and commentary of Augustine City of God. So naturally I'm on it. But sometimes whenever you're going back through myths and stuff like that, it stops being so big and starts

feeling a little bit personal, a little bit like a guy was like, okay, here's why my dick's not working tonight. You know, like sometimes it gets really specific. Where you're like, oh, it's always erect. Is it always erect? Why does it need to always be erect? What are you talking about? Well, because she, in this case, it's because she made a new, like, non-human phallus.

Right, exactly. Doesn't have the- To satisfy her. No, well, maybe. See what I'm saying? Like when you take away the myth parts of it and remember there's a guy somewhere in some time period explaining all of this to other people.

Yeah, the craft of myth writing is the intersection of some really grand thing and a human who's writing it. It's huge and tiny. There's something personal in it. It's a guy. There's a guy in there. Sometimes you can see the guy. And that's kind of even relates to Bill. He's talking about this really big thing, but there's also him in there. Yep, yep, totally. And his long dark nights where he felt alone because no one understood.

Yeah, absolutely. His mystery Babylon. That's why he's got a fake phallus to get in everybody. Yeah. So Skrulls are about dicks. Sure. Also the Illuminati is real. Ooh, I have a question.

Sure. And maybe this is something that's already been included in the parts Ooh, I have a question. Sure. And maybe this is something that's already been included in the parts that we haven't listened to. Maybe. Are we gonna get to Merlin? Not yet, certainly. Not yet. But do you think Merlin's in play?

Because I feel like Merlin is very in play in this kind of conversation, right? King Arthur and all of that. It should be. If it's not, it should be. Yeah, right? I feel like Merlin should be somewhere in the background like he's got thoughts at the very least on Mystery Babylon Mm-hmm, and in this world that we're conceiving of he's totally real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Merlin's gotta He's got to be in here if we get to episode 15, and we don't see Merlin There's gonna be issues so the Illuminati is real uh-huh and people who don't think it's real are dumb

That's true And we get back to the the issue of Atlanta. Oh Those who rose to enlightenment were considered illumined Collectively they are known as the Illuminati and all of you who have fallen for the scam that the Illuminati does not exist They do and all of you who have fallen for the scam that the Illuminati does not exist, they do. For the term Illuminati merely refers to the collective body of those who are illumined or enlightened, and they are the Illuminati. Ambition, however personified by Typhon, knowing that temporal power must die if divine power in the form of truth be reestablished, put forth all its power again to scatter the doctrine,

this time so thoroughly that it should never be rediscovered. If Typhon, as Plutarch has suggested in one of his manifestations, represents the sea, then it appears that the second destruction of Osiris may refer to the Atlantean deluge. There's Atlanta again. Atlantis. Atlanta. The same. Are they? Go to Atlanta, Georgia folks. Drive around in that city. You will see pyramids everywhere. You will see 666 everywhere. You will see 666 Everywhere you will see the symbols the all-seeing eye. Yeah, man, Atlanta Devil City what is everywhere? What's what is it everywhere enough? Do you know what I mean? Mm-hmm like okay, so there's four or five is that everywhere you ever been to Atlanta?

I have not been I don't think I've been to Atlanta or I've been out in downtown Atlanta. Okay. Yeah, you've been downtown Do you know I haven't been in downtown? I've been around Georgia, but not to actual Atlanta proper. What does that mean? I mean the city part of it into the suburbs of Atlanta. I guess I was driving through Georgia I don't know why I suddenly said something different this I have no idea this makes me think you committed a crime in Georgia I just I just suddenly was like- Why were you driving around Georgia? I don't know! No, what was I doing there? I would assume it would be like you had a show there or something like that.

I think it actually was a college thing. I was going to visit some college in Georgia and that's why my brain brought that up, even though it's unnecessary and unrelated to this conversation. Well if you'd spent more time in Atlanta, right you would know that the building codes They require that everybody live in a pyramid. Well, there you go. That does make sense No houses just a frames everywhere Is it a more efficient design? No, should we be living pyramid style? I don't think so. Okay, fair enough Also, Atlanta is not named after Atlantis

It was founded in 1837 and was originally called Martha'sville But it was renamed Atlanta after the Atlantic Railroad because it was the endpoint of that line Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The Atlantic Railroad was named after the Atlantic Ocean Which has its name derived from the Latin and Greek words that mean Atlas hmm Atlanta does sound like Atlantis though does so you can see how Bill might jump on this and make a deep connection But yeah, this is just dog shit. Yeah, this is this is a decade before the Futurama episode too So there you go mm-hmm I mean obviously Atlanta will eventually sink and then become Atlantis in the future

Hey, I could see it. Yeah. Wouldn't put it past him. Yeah, it makes sense. Magic City. Strip club in Atlanta. Frequently referenced by rappers. Atlantis was a magic city.

Yeah, yeah. There we go. I think it makes sense. Yang Yang in this thing. Where's the sun in that? Probably up at one tweezy another strip club referenced by Jermaine Dupree no welcome to Atlanta I get it I get it yeah it's where the players play mm-hmm right on those things like every

day mm-hmm big beats hit streets see gangsters rolling parties don't stop till six in the morning this is what we know about Atlantis sometimes sometimes you do listen to that those those old lyrics and you just go hmm yep mm-hmm that's what they said they sure did so Bill is he does he pulls like a real Alexei move here in this next clip. Listen to this carefully, folks. This is their own words. In the dark retreats of Islam, the Sufi explored the depths of nature. Among the Jews, the learned Rabbins unraveled the intricate scion of Kabbalism.

Among the Greeks, initiates rose to life through the nocturnal rituals of Eleusis. In India, Neophytes were brought to the contemplation of the triple-headed Brahma at Elephanta and Ellora. Through the Middle Ages, the alchemists in their retreats explored the infinite chemistry of existence. The Illuminati sought the pearl of great price, and Rosicrucian adepts sought to recast the molten sea. So at the beginning of that clip, Bill said, listen carefully, this is their own words. And then he's just reading a passage from this Manly P. Hall book. It's the same thing

that Alex does when he's like, they tell in their writings Yeah, they reveal it all yeah, and then he's talking about like none dare call it conspiracy or w. Cleon Skousen He's talking about someone else has written a book about this crazy shit Yeah, and you're pretending that it's like the first hand document Yeah of of this this mystery religion, and it's not. You're cheating. Yeah, I mean, well, it's a lot less convincing if you say, they say it in the things we write about them. That sounds very suspicious, in fact. Yeah, it's a skipping a step.

I know they say it because we have a long tradition of all the people we trust who also are not allowed to speak to them at all, of knowing all of these things about them, who again, we're not allowed to have any contact with. Yeah, but I think that if you hear that clip and you have listened to a bit of Alex, you see the same kind of handling of information.

Like that tradition is deeply ingrained in this kind of entertainment you know, entertainment content. Yeah. And I find that fascinating, like the depths of these connections. Yeah. Because it's almost something that you can't believe that Alex would consciously be, like, mirroring. Right.

But he is. Well, I think there is a... It makes a certain type of sense Okay in so far as the way they treat information that they say comes from them You can't trust it because they're obviously liars So you have to read between the lines there whereas the information you can trust comes from people like manly P. Hall Only it's only from him. You know what I mean? Like you can only trust the people who are lying about what they're saying because they're lying whenever they say what they're

actually saying. Yeah, maybe. But when you're saying it's in their own words, you can't then be reading someone else's words. Right. Well, we interpreted their words from, oh, fuck off. Yeah. Yeah. There's a misunderstanding or disrespect of what a primary source means and I think that that's indicative right because the underlying truth of it is It where I'm telling you that it's in their words But I'm not going to give you their words because I know you wouldn't understand it

You wouldn't be able to interpret it the right way Yeah You would listen to them say stuff like, we wanna use the intellect, and you'd believe them, you idiot. Right. So I'm going to tell you what they think. Yeah. Yeah.

It's cheating. Yeah, it's cheating. So we have one last clip here, and it has more to do with Osiris' dick. Okay. Osiris' dick is apparently very important. All right, that makes sense. Thus the physical body of man is definitely tied up

in symbolism with the creature which conceived sun Horus, a term concealing the collective body of the perfected adepts who were born again out of the womb, swallowed the triple phallus of Osiris, the threefold generative power. This golden phallus of Osiris, the threefold generative power. This golden phallus is the three-letter word of Freemasonry, concealed under the letters A-U-M. And all of those of you in the New Age movement, or all of those of you who fell for all these

gurus who came over here and taught you to sit and meditate and while you were meditating idiots Commodists This Hey you You got old and phallus is the three-lettered word of Freemasonry concealed under the letters A-U-M. How do you feel, sheeple?

Why do you do these things? How do you feel? Here's the other question I have for you. If this is something that they presumably believe, right? Then at some point somebody is explaining that this is this to somebody else like this is what we believe I am going to tell you that the Golden Phallus is AUM, right? And then what do they say? How do you feel now sheeple like what? Yeah, you meditate on the dick Okay, I mean, I guess that's fine.

I guess. I mean, like, ohm also is like, you know, from Sanskrit. You're mixing up traditions entirely here in order to make this Atlanta, Atlantis connection. Yeah. Type of that style of connective tissues there. And I will say that, what do you think now, sheeple? That's not in the Manly P. Hall.

That's straight up Bill. I imagine that, yes. That really feels so much like what this is. It is an incoherent tying together of disconnected things, reading long chunks of text from Manley P. Hall, and then Bill editorializing some condescending and slightly aggressive thing about how smart he is and how he's seen through the riddles.

And it's kind of funny. It is. It is, it is, it is weird because it feels like How would I put this I guess I guess I think my my feeling about bill is the amount of effort That a lot of these people put in Versus the amount of reward they get is so low compared to so high And I feel like bill is working too hard for the amount of reward they get is so low compared to so high and I feel like Bill is

working too hard for the amount of success he's getting. Yes. You know what I mean? I think that he definitely never enjoyed the lifestyle that Alex has enjoyed in his life. And I think that Bill probably puts in way more effort. Way more effort. Now at in terms of reward a lot of these other scammers uh were able to Monetize much more effectively. Yeah. Well, I mean it is it is like He's reading the whole book though

Which isn't what any of these idiots would do they would give you the they would be like first line of chapter one All right I've finished the book now i'm just gonna make up a bunch of bullshit and say that that's what was in the book I can't imagine that this entire series is just reading this book I've hope not it's it can't be because he is also jumping around a bit Okay, and and and I've I've listened to deeper into I don't remember a whole lot of it But I've listened to more of this. I do think it evolves into other subjects yeah then this mainly P Hall book but yeah I don't know I think I give him a little more credit for work than he

deserves I think though I think I think you might be too I think it's more just that my bar is so low yes you know like it is we're used to Alex doing nothing absolutely absolutely Nothing and being rewarded beyond your wildest dreams You know like this feels like he's working too hard make a hundred thousand dollars in a day cuz you read a tweet I'm like that's Alex style. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, at least this this has like some appearance of craft Yeah, I don't think that you could do this Series or this episode without him sitting down to prepare. Yes. Yes, and that at least

Indicates some level of I've I have intent. Yeah, I have a point I'm driving at the point may be stupid and also maybe being conveyed poorly But at least there is like, you can imagine him sitting down before the show with some papers and being like, all right, here's the plan. I think that's what it is. I think it is exactly that.

I don't think there's a cold read here. And that is what, no matter what any of these, no matter how much effort Alex or any of his ilk put in, sooner or later you hear them do a cold read where it's like, you've clearly never read that before in your life and now you're gonna improvise off of it Yeah, this feels like he has read the book in advance. He's done his homework. Yeah, he's done some homework Yeah, and and I think that the way I would boil it down is that like intent. Yeah, he has an intent And there is an effort to follow through on that intent.

Whereas Alex, I think, is killing time. Most of the time. And even though I think that the point that Bill is making is stupid and he's doing a bad job, I still think that there's... Do I say respect for for an effort I mean you know like the the the best turd still the best turd you know it's a turd yeah but at the end of the day you're like well that one's better than the other ones I guess I don't know what to tell you it's a blue ribbon turd you know what you're gonna say it is relatively speaking I know it's still a

shit mm-hmm but relatively speaking that one's impressive yeah anyway um we've learned a lot about dicks and Atlanta I don't know I I enjoy this. So I'm going to keep doing it. But we'll be back to Alex next time. I feel like this entire episode could be summed up with just a guy going, Atlantis, Atlanta, Atlantis, Atlanta, ah, ah, ah. Doing a lot of ah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think that would be the the theme of all of

these episodes is yeah well I will check back in another episode for you but until then we have a website indeed we do it's all try calm yep we'll be back but until then I'm neo I'm Leo MDZX Clark I am the mysterious professor and now here comes the sex robot. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you.