Knowledge Fight - #1032: April 23-24, 2025

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex interviewing an unsuccessful Canadian, telling a story about stalking some young women, and making peace with his business's seemingly imminent demise....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight! Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating! knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray! I have great respect for knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Knowledge fight. I need, I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy and, stop it. Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex, I'm Andy and I'm a fan of Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little
Starting point is 00:01:05 Bit about Alex Joe. Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan Dan or Dan quick question for you So what's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today is I was thinking about this whole Experiencing life with a pinky ring sure thing and and how I am supposed to report back on experiences sure and This is kind of hitting a wall because I don't do much. There is that don't leave the house that much. There is that. So I started to notice that there weren't many things for me to say, Hey, this is what it was like for me to experience X, Y or Z while wearing a piggy ring. Sure. But I did go to try and I went to like a second hand store to try and find an end table with a pinky ring.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And I did feel like the people might have suspected that I was looking for a new fence. Okay. You know, I'm like, I'm trying to move stolen goods. I like that. I'm coming in there looking for a connect. So they like clocked the pinky ring and we're like, whoa We got to treat this guy a little bit differently because we don't know
Starting point is 00:02:09 I don't know if they did treat me any differently, but I felt it Okay felt like maybe they were looking at me as a potential Guy who has some things. Yeah, he needs to move. He needs to get rid of I don't think it's always the case But sometimes your inner feelings are more important than what's all what's happening around you So it's important that this influenced you in this way guy with a pinky ring at the secondhand store There's there's a criminal veneer to that It would have been more fun if you were using Cockney rhyming slang at the same time.
Starting point is 00:02:45 That would have done it. Hmm. Yeah, okay, I'll work that in next time. Okay. So what's your bright spot? My bright spot is Andor. Okay. Andor. I've heard it's great.
Starting point is 00:02:57 It's fucking great. Yeah? It's really fucking great. It just is. Where do you put it in the Star Wars properties? I mean, as far as TV shows, it's the best Star Wars TV show. Better than Mando. Yeah, better than Mando.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Better than the Book of Boba Fett. Way better than the Book of Boba Fett. I don't know, I don't remember any others. What about that cartoon one? The Clone Wars? Rebels? The one with Ezra? The lower decks?
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah, the lower decks. Wait, that's Star Trek. No, not that one. Then there was Obie. I've heard the one with yeah No not that one um Then there was Obi-Wan which I enjoyed Obi-Wan the show more than other people and then the apprentice I really enjoyed that that was with Trump. Uh, no was it called the apprentice? No It was no, I'm for sure. Oh shit. What was it called? Acolyte, that's what it was called. Yes. I know that. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Yeah, I've heard that's fantastic. Yeah, and not like crazy Star Wars either. No, I mean, it's so crazy that it's so hard to make it happen, but the Star Wars universe has more people than just the Jedi. You don't need to always see what wizards are fighting about with their lightsabers, you know? Yeah, I know that's what you liked about the new game. Yeah, I really liked it.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah, I don't need Jedi with their fucking moralism all the time. Sometimes you gotta steal shit and blow stuff up. And I think everything we know of the Jedi from all of the stories, like, they're not right. So, like, let's see what other people are up to. Let's see what everybody else has to say. Yeah. I haven't thought about it. Well, I'm glad you're enjoying the show. Yeah. Did they just finish the season or? No, the last three episodes are going to be
Starting point is 00:04:38 next week. Nice. And that's the end of the show.. Yep two seasons because and I'll tell you why at the end of this show is When the movie Rogue One happens, okay, and that's in but so it the show ends rogue one happens then a new hope starts We're eventually just gonna get everything. I mean I think the whole timeline essentially. Yeah, we're gonna have a like actual Rise and fall of the Roman Empire kind of thing. All right. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, it could be interesting sure I'm looking forward to like when they when they go real Like you know there's a lot of niche characters sure in Star Wars sure I You mean like Jekto no pork ins sure That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:05:29 For that everybody a show okay, all right you wanna you wanna Go take out some womp rats with bigs and banks bigs and bigs I like it do it bigs and bigs is like a TV is like a movie review show I'm in a two-hander with Biggs and Biggs. We're printing money. Mesa thinks Spielberg is over the shark. Oh right. Mesa thinks we're going to crush the ratings.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We are back in the present talking about our primary ding-dong. We're talking about the 23rd and 24th of April 2025 Gotcha and shit is this a bummer? Oh, no Alex is Wrestling with the reality that he's about to lose everything okay good We've been here too many times in the past sure you get too excited sure But if you if you feel the tone out of where he's at mm-hmm We've been here too many times in the past to get too excited.
Starting point is 00:06:25 But if you feel the tone out of where he's at, he is actually like, this is gonna be gone. I'm done. Kind of. So it's a little bit of a bummer of a mood for him to be in, but he sucks, so it's kind of fun. And we'll get down to business talking about all of that, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new ones. That's great idea. So first, what's in this mailbag? Yep. Peter Dutton is Tmoo Trump. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next Liz Liz, the Chicagoan neurosurgery goddess. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Pete Booty Juice. I want to ride my bike with Pete Booty Juice, liberal photo op in Washington, D.C. I'm going to keep on riding with the Pete Booty Juice, Pete Booty Juice. Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I'm sure I got the meter of that wrong.
Starting point is 00:07:20 No, it was perfect and I'm glad you said it out loud. Thank you. And we got a technical credit in the mix mix Jordan, so thank you so much too. I'm writing this on March 31st to say happy 12th anniversary to Kel for May 11th. I always thought you were cool. Love from Pippin. Thank you so much, your now technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home, be a mother, tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jar-jar binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little titty, baby I don't want to hate black people I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. That one wasn't super late No, I know I'd like to I let so I read that one and I was like it is possible that I could hang
Starting point is 00:08:04 Hold on to this one and do it closer to the day But then I thought that's unfair to all the people who we've been like two months late on Mm-hmm if your name comes up when your name comes up. Yeah, it's just a roll of the dice exactly so we're gonna start this off on the 23rd and Alex's he's getting to some headlines for the day. All right And Alex is, he's getting to some headlines for the day. All right. It is Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025. We're entering the 93rd day of the return of President Trump.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Hang on, you look at the 94th. All right. Wow. What a day. The British government says, oh, we're going to have the jet airplanes all spray chemicals in the air to save from global warming to block the sun out. Oh, that I said in 95 with the documents. Oh, and Klaus Schwab's under fraud criminal investigation.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Oh, and so much more. It's just insane. And I told you, I always say 2000 chemicals. That was the old number. I'm wrong. They've listed them as over 10,000 deadly Addictive toxic chemicals that only US food producers to ban everywhere else Putting our food as part of the global is targeting all banned officially yesterday
Starting point is 00:09:18 And it's all being pulled out right now because the liability protection is gone out right now because the liability protection is gone. So in the first minute of the show, Alex has laid out three fairly large stories, almost like bullet points. In an actual news show or one of the, you know, pundit type shows you see on major networks, this would be like the headline rundown of what's coming up later on in the show. These are the segments that they've prepared and they're about to present. Sure. But with Alex, it's kind of random.
Starting point is 00:09:46 These are tweets that he's got towards the top of his stack of paper, and it may or may not be the case that he covers these stories in the body of the show. It really depends on how the vibes evolve throughout his broadcast. You can be certain that he won't do any actual coverage of the stories in this headline rundown, but it's funny to realize that a lot of times he doesn't even get back to rambling about them. This is incredibly just like throwing darts. There would be like a chiron. There might even be like a thing on that or like five minutes from now we'll get into
Starting point is 00:10:17 this specific story. So you know, this is when you take a shit or something. Yeah. Yeah. There would be some production meeting that had taken place and then the queues. Structure of any kind. So the UK government has announced a 50 million pound investment in a limited experiment involving seeding clouds that may help in reflecting solar radiation, but it's a very small scale
Starting point is 00:10:39 thing. This is under the heading of a program called ARIA and the head of it told the Guardian, quote, having spoken to hundreds of researchers, we reached the conclusion that a critical missing part of our research was real-world physical data. These would show us whether any of these potential approaches would actually work and what their effects would be. Modeling and indoor studies are essential as prerequisites but can only tell us so much. In this instance, Alex is completely full of shit about this being about poisoning people
Starting point is 00:11:07 with chemtrails or whatever, but I'm kind of on his side in terms of opposition to this kind of program. The argument for these types of studies and programs is that climate change is happening and we aren't making the required adjustments to our emissions, so a geoengineering project that could help manage the rising solar radiation, it could buy us the time to make the cuts that we need to make. However, a lot of climate scientists oppose these kind of initiatives because they view them as being a distraction and basically like trying to rearrange deck chairs on the
Starting point is 00:11:35 Titanic. If we aren't going to make the cuts now, this is only going to delude us into thinking that maybe we can get away with not making them ever, which can be a dangerous trap to fall into. As someone who's not a real expert on this subject, I kind of lean towards that perspective, we can get away with not making them ever, which can be a dangerous trap to fall into. As someone who's not a real expert on this subject, I kind of lean towards that perspective, so I'm slightly opposed to this kind of geoengineering. Not because I think it's wrong or evil, but because it seems like it could have a pacifying
Starting point is 00:11:55 effect on making real change. So Alec, this is a weird place where Alex and I maybe have it in the appearance of some agreement, but we actually totally disagree I This is one of the worst experiences of deja vu. I think I've ever had I feel like I've existed in this very conversation before So I'll say what I remember saying if I had said it before which is Buddy that shit ain't happening What we got to do is throw all the spaghetti at the wall because none of this cut shit is happening None of that shit is happening throw Throw away hope for any of that.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And I think, hey, I think that's a totally valid argument too. I don't think it's wrong to do these kinds of studies, but I think to have like, to think that's going to buy us time or whatever, which is a lot of the mentality that people have. I think that that's kind of, uh, yeah, I think that's, I think Yeah. I think it's both wrong. The cuts aren't going to happen, so get rid of your hope on that. And buying his time isn't going to happen. Get out of here. Figure out a way to just control the air. That's what you got to do. Well, good luck with that. Step it up, science.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Science for Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum received a whistleblower letter alleging that he and his wife had misused WEF funds. A lot of the allegations are rich people, business as usual kind of corrupt dealings like getting massages with WEF money or his wife planning WEF meetings strategically so she could justify travel. Love it. It's not good stuff, but when Alex has accused him of being a mastermind who just tried to kill most of the world with a virus and make everyone else eat bugs, it's kinda weak stuff. One of the allegations is a bit more serious though. From The Guardian, quote, The letter also accused Schwab of manipulating the WEF Global Competitiveness Report in order to curry favor with certain governments.
Starting point is 00:13:41 The publication ranks countries based on criteria such as education, infrastructure, labor market, and health systems and is a point of reference for the annual Davos meeting. At this point, this is just an allegation, but if Schwab was doing that, he's a real piece of shit. Still not the comic book villain Alex tries to make him out to be, but definitely someone who is putting personal interest over the good of the world while pretending to run an organization that was about increasing the good in the world. The news here is that the WEF Board of Trustees unanimously agreed to an investigation into
Starting point is 00:14:12 the allegations that were made in the letter. It's not criminal investigation. Keep in mind, this board includes Al Gore, the Queen of Jordan, the head of the World Bank, the CEO of BlackRock, Legendary cellist yo yo ma all of these people are like they're interested in launching this investigation All of them are huge villains in Alex's world. So he can't possibly think that this is a positive development Yeah, he can't he can't think like oh we got him. The best he can do is like they're cannibalizing Schwab. Yeah Yo, yo ma just released a new album. So this could have something to do with it. He needs headlines. You think this is buzz
Starting point is 00:14:51 marketing for Yo-Yo Ma's new cello album? I mean, I think it's a Stravinsky. So like, come on man, you're going to need, you're going to need help selling that shit. Have you listened to the album? No, but I have it. You need to check if there's a hidden track that's like a real like hit them up kind of diss track on Clashwab. I was, no, I got the record and I'm about to listen to it and before I put it on I had to do something and so I haven't gotten back to it. But there was a moment where I was like, yo yo ma, good for you buddy. Who would have seen that? It's like that tenor guy, the opera singer that- Paverati?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Paverati. Yeah. How do those guys penetrate the major consciousness and we all know him? Well, I think- It happens. I think that Yo-Yo Ma, first of all, in addition to being a philanthropist and an amazing musician, he also, didn't he do an album with Bobby McFerrin? Is that what happened? I think so that broke into a little bit of like right right stream spread it about yeah, I got you I associate that in my head and could be so the third story here is about food additives being banned
Starting point is 00:15:56 And this is about the FDA announcing that they were planning to quote phase out eight synthetic food dyes Hopefully by the end of 2026. However, there's no enforcement mechanism for this and no law was passed. The FDA just announced that they were working with the HHS to ask industry to not use these synthetic dyes and expressing that they wanted to fast track the approval of four new natural color additives. Alex said there were 10,000 chemicals that were just banned, but the actual number is zero. Nothing was banned.
Starting point is 00:16:27 The closest this press release gets to saying that they actually want to revoke authorization for anything is about orange B and citrus red number two. These two things they say they express an intention to revoke. These are trouble. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Alex's coverage of this is bullshit, but on a deeper level, he should not be in favor of the FDA banning a ton of chemicals at most He should think it's a state's rights decision
Starting point is 00:16:51 But he probably shouldn't even have that position based on how hostile he is toward any regulation of the supplement industry Yeah, he really is on thin ice. Yeah, that's trouble gonna screw himself over with these positions Okay, so imagine imagine where he's just embellishing and we are here How many? Addictive and toxic chemicals do you need before you say we've got too many like he's throwing 10,000 around I feel like that's just too many. It's way more than is necessary Yeah, but I mean even if you've got like 50, 50 ones too many, you don't need that many, right?
Starting point is 00:17:28 What are these people doing, making all these addictive and toxic chemicals? Yeah, I don't know. I think that if you really want to lead this crusade against toxic chemicals in the food and stuff like that, a real great place you should start is probably like cigarettes, right? Probably. Because they're real bad for health. They are real bad for health. Great place you should start is probably like cigarettes, right?
Starting point is 00:17:49 Because they're real bad. They are real bad If you want to say that these food dyes are bad Yeah, you're gonna have a tough time proving that they're worse than cigarettes. It is gonna be hard. It is gonna be very hard So you should try that. Yeah. Anyway, these are the news headlines Yeah, and we move on to Alex talking a bit about how Trump is basically, he's describing Trump in a way that sounds downright... Messianic? No. Socialist.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Oh! Interesting. He's got a tree by its roots. Elon Musk has 15 children. And then they try to spit it and say, oh, it's not very Christian conservative. Didn't say he was a Christian. He said, we don't need to poison people, depopulate people. Humans are good. We need more humans. He's got 15 children. That's money where your mouth is. He had one taken and sterilized from him. His son pissed him off. But look at Trump,
Starting point is 00:18:41 major White House initiative with huge tax incentives and other initiatives to get people to have more children. The left doesn't want you to have children and wants to replace you with dumbed down, starving, terrible populations they control. White House assesses ways to persuade women to have more children. How about tax cuts? How about tax cuts? How about tax cuts? Swade women to have more children. How about an extra on top of it? $5000 payment? How about new
Starting point is 00:19:16 increased tax incentives? With even bigger tax cuts when you have more Children on top of that. Oh, it's all being announced. How about tax increases on people make it a million dollars a year or more. And then just
Starting point is 00:19:33 get rid of taxes on people make $150,000 or less. That's what they're proposing. And if you really want to help people, you just get rid of federal taxes. On middle middle class lower middle class blue collar I mean those are the defaults you do meanwhile all the corporate publications oh it's so great not to have children this is complete insanity yeah I don't like it and Alex doesn't mean a single word of this shit
Starting point is 00:19:59 if these policies were being suggested by anyone other than Trump they would be the definition of socialism to him. Any politician telling you that they would give you these things, they'd be a con artist trying to buy your support with promises they would never fulfill. Fundamentally, all of this is counter to what Alex is supposed to believe. If he thinks the state should reward you for having kids, then why would he ever be opposed to social welfare programs that seek to alleviate the financial burden that comes with parenthood? For his entire career, he's not believed that that's something that the government should
Starting point is 00:20:30 do. And why should the government penalize you for being successful? You want to only tax people who make over a million dollars? That sounds like a really good way to make sure people only put in $999,000 worth of effort. Come on, man. Oh my God. You're holding back innovation. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:20:48 To be clear, I think that child tax credits and universal pre-K and extended parental leave, those are all positive things. I think that shifting the tax burden onto the rich is the right thing to do. So I don't have a problem with these positions Alex is pretending to support here. I just know that he doesn't actually support these things
Starting point is 00:21:04 and neither does Trump. Yeah. Trump is engaged in a very dumb and damaging trade war at the moment and he's trying to distract people from the coming price raises that his tariffs are going to cause. People are about to get really mad about the effects of this shit and acting like the tariffs are going to replace taxes is a good way to try and control the narrative. There's no tax bill that Trump or his administration is forwarding. This is just PR. And Alex is essentially a regime PR man.
Starting point is 00:21:29 So he's selling his audience this bullshit that's directly counter to his alleged political philosophy. It's wild. The level to which he's sunk. Yeah. Yeah, they're just lying. Just lies. Just throwing lies around.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Well, if you recall, we just, on our last episode, we had that sushi date, and we learned that the Alex Jones problem is that sometimes he just makes shit up. It does feel like sometimes he just makes shit up and that is an issue. Yeah. Huh? It's a good thing that we nipped it in the bud. Yeah. People took care of it. Yep. So, you know, the left doesn't want you to have kids.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Of course not. And when you don't have kids, you're depressed and, you know, it's not good. Is that how that works? Sure. OK. But Alex has to hedge things a little bit and just be like, hey, I know some people can't have kids. You're not bad. Right. Right. Right. You're not evil people. Yeah. Yeah. And then you statistically look at the people. They are the most unhappy. They die earlier. They're totally depressed. And I'm not saying everybody that doesn't have children is a loser or bad. I'm saying statistically, you know, there are a lot of men out there that have the love of their life and they die or they get burned. They marry a young woman they think is great and then she takes
Starting point is 00:22:41 everything they got. And then their bachelor's the rest of their lives. What has happened? There are a lot of women same way get burned by men and decide they don't want to do that or they can't have children. Nobody's judging them. In general, though, everything's being incentivized to not have families and that means not have humans. You can boil it down to David Hogg, famously now the DNC chairman saying Alex Jones thinks it's bad that the mean. It means there's no more frogs. What about senior? And that is the perfect snapshot microcosm of us. And that's what all of this is about. Have you not seen Jurassic Park, sir? I was going to say life does not find a way in Alex's estimation. So David Hogg
Starting point is 00:23:39 is not the head of the DNC. And broadly speaking speaking even if somehow everyone magically became gay overnight it would not mean the extinction of humans. Alex doesn't fully understand the whole thing with Atrazine and the frogs but one of the things that makes their situation different from ours is that we have science whereas the frogs do not. We have labs and IVF so like even if there were no more heterosexuals which is not a possibility people could still reproduce But anyway Alex is I do like that. He's coming up with ways that you can be decent and not have kids Yeah, it seems open-minded of him. I suppose I mean, but he's lying Sure, because they are bad people for not having kids in Alex's philosophy and they will be
Starting point is 00:24:26 treated as bad people if Alex's philosophy is allowed dominance. But they might be bad people by circumstance, like maybe they got burned. Right, but Alex doesn't care. No, he's lying. That is the Alex Jones problem. Yeah, that does seem to be the case. Yeah. So Alex starts shooting on the United States talking about how bad we are and how sure we have
Starting point is 00:24:46 Bad health is he allowed to do that. Yeah, he's loving her leave it. No one else is but he okay? Rmk, jr.. A month ago Said okay the regulation Saying that any chemical a company wants to come up with and stick in a food most of them petrochemical that happen to be highly addictive on purpose and very toxic that are banned everywhere else in the world for the lowest live expectancy of any industrialized country. That none of the things were dead last of 40 industrialized nations were dead last education, live expectancy, disease, everything. We're the worst. And I would say 2000 chemicals. It's actually they listed the FDA has joined with the H
Starting point is 00:25:26 H s secretary and as of yesterday, they gave the press conference. It's coming out of the drugs. The food everything and they're all scrambling to reformulate. Good. So the FDA has joined with the HHS secretary and as of yesterday,
Starting point is 00:25:43 they gave the press conference. It's coming out of the drugs, the food, everything, and they're all scrambling to reformulate. Good. I mean, you want action, sweetheart? Get poison out of our food for our children? Pay people more of their money to have children? more of their money to have children all of this is a
Starting point is 00:26:08 Trump is a 170 from the globalist on Some of the war stuff and the Israel stuff the easy, you know, he's anti-war So that's easy. He makes him not you know, really but but but about a 170 and I'll take it I love that we can add 170 as a new number that means nothing. Out of 100? Yeah. No, it's at 170 degrees. It's not quite 180.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Oh, OK. Yeah, it's like a little 10 degrees off. Sure, sure, sure. I think if Alex heard someone else talking that way about the United States, he would say that they were unpatriotic and America bashing and trying to hurt morale. Feels like it.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And I don't enjoy that. I'm fine with it. So the FDA is responsible for assessing the safety of new quote food additives that are going to be in commercially available products. They're tasked with determining if something poses a risk to consumers. However, there's a category of food ingredients called generally regarded as safe ingredients. This category includes things like baking soda or flour, just things that we have in everything. The food industry self-regulates the generally regarded as safe designation and the FDA for the most part doesn't get overly involved until there's
Starting point is 00:27:22 a problem. This has been the hands-off process that the FDA has followed since 1997, and there's a lot of concern that the food industry has abused this lenience. I think RFK sucks a lot and he shouldn't be anywhere near power, but I don't think that a review of the practices around generally regarded as safe foods is a bad idea. I have two main issues here though. The first is that Alex definitely shouldn't support this. It's ridiculous. The second is that what RFK wants to do is meaningless and it lacks any kind of teeth.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Trump and his administration have been targeting the administrative state and trying to force government employees out of their jobs. Doing full assessments of the long list of food additives that are considered generally regarded as safe would take a ton of time, labor, and money, none of which it appears the government is interested in spending. Beyond that, last year the Supreme Court struck down the Chevron Doctrine, which severely limited government agencies' ability to set and hold regulations. Even if RFK and its HHS ban all of these generally regarded as safe products, which they aren't
Starting point is 00:28:23 going to do, they will have no enforcement mechanism for it and the Supreme Court that Trump has created has disarmed the regulatory agencies that could back this up. Getting rid of a bunch of these chemicals and food is probably a good thing to do or at least re-examining many of them, but these people aren't going to do it. In order to actually do this, you would need to provide massive funding for the FDA and create strong regulation enforcement. And Trump isn't gonna do either of those things. They're antithetical to their view of how government works. And I don't know like what the point is other than like kind of grandstanding. I mean it feels well okay the point is what it's always been it is make a lot of noise get people looking over here and then steal all their money.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It's very simple really I mean it's essentially what Alex does make a lot of noise get people looking over here and then steal all their money. Yeah. We'll ask these people nicely to not put shit in the food. It's always worked in the past. Right. Yeah. And then we'll have a little chat with them and then determine a couple of dyes that we
Starting point is 00:29:38 can ban that aren't going to hurt the bottom line too much. Yeah. Have a nice photo op and shake hands. Is that all that it is? Yep. It kind of feels like that's all it is. So we've heard the introduction of the 170 degrees. Sure. We've heard a thousand out of the hundred. Right. We've heard Alex give a lot of rankings and grades for Trump. Right. Not a fan of Nick Lachey. And that's why we haven't heard 98 degrees. No, right. It's true. Also, his brother was in that group. He was little-known fact. I did not know that. Yep
Starting point is 00:30:07 Still hate that music video where that this I promise you. Okay, and it's screech Yeah, no, I understand that I did not explain that music video. Well So Alex gives Trump another grade. Yeah in this next clip. Okay, and it's bad. Oh, no, it's an f-minus It's an f-minus for something very important. Oh, that's not good, but this is not why I'm playing this clip Okay, I'm playing you this clip because it's one of the most disturbing things. I've heard Alex say Probably in at least a year. Oh, that's nice. Okay. It's very upsetting. Hmm. I have to say in the Trump administration On the front of controlling the border a plus On finding the kids f-minus
Starting point is 00:30:53 that 90 something days Seems like shooting fish in a barrel. I believe we've gone out and found them You can find them everybody else can find them all the other researchers find them Anthony Rubin guess we had on yesterday all of them them all the other researchers find them Anthony Rubin guess we had on yesterday all of them James O'Keefe and I go in an hour and be in a house full of kids guaranteed sex slaves we've done it you mean take you there right now so I mean there's over a million of them right now it's not 350,000 that's just the number of the government mix so I mean it'd be it'd be harder to find a Valero gas station and sex slaves. I mean, I saw something the other day in South Austin. And it was so
Starting point is 00:31:38 freaky and so weird. The police that I just sat there. I took a few photos. I've got them at a gas station. And I just said, you know what, I'm leaving. Because I was looking at the girls and I was like, they look like they're about 14. Two white girls and they were dressed like whores and they were waiting for a John on the phone. And they were looking at me and like doing this. I was just like, it was so creepy.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I was just like, I got gotta go take care of my family. Plus call the cops, what are they gonna do? You know, I sit here and wait for the John to come get them and follow them. And I almost did it. And I'm just like, I'm kind of at a 35,000 foot view of general and I was like, do generals do that? And I've done plenty of that.
Starting point is 00:32:20 You've seen me try to block the cars full of unaccompanied little kids being thrown in hatchbacks. I mean, we've done it. And I just sat there. I took a few pictures. I said, there's about 10 minutes. I was like, I'm sure of it. You know what you're looking at? I was just like, God almighty. I mean, they were wearing those like yoga exercise shorts that are all the way up. They had their lipstick on all of it. I was like, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do
Starting point is 00:32:46 that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not
Starting point is 00:32:54 going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going want to have the proof? I said, do I wait? I sat there about 10 minutes. They tried to look at me on their phone, call somebody. They kind of had that, you know, the shady criminal thing. They can man, they've been this a while and I was just like, put it in reverse and left. Sorry, I'm digressing.
Starting point is 00:33:18 You just can't. It's just it's insane. So we got a problem. I think you do. What the fuck was that? The only comfort I take in that clip is that I don't believe Alex is telling a true story. That's fair. I suspect that he saw some young women that he thought were dressed too provocatively outside
Starting point is 00:33:36 of a gas station, and he's trying to come up with a heroic story to explain away how excited he was by it. If he's telling the truth and he really did this, he's unsafe to be in public. He has no idea how old these women are, and his only evidence that they're involved in sex work is that they were dressed in a way that he thought was too scantily and that they were on their phone. He has no reason to suspect that these were trafficked minors. That's all in his head.
Starting point is 00:34:02 If Alex sat there at the gas station for 10 minutes, took pictures of these young women, and considered following them, all because of the story he's made up in his head, he's seriously dangerous. Taking their picture and keeping the picture is in many ways an invasion of these women's privacy, and the fact that he's kept the pictures and is suggesting that he would show them on his show has the potential to very negatively impact them. At its core, this is stalker behavior he's displaying, like how he had his head of security, Tim Inlow, fellow his wife around and run people's plates who she was hanging out with, kind of on brand for him. I don't trust Alex's assessment of a person's dress,
Starting point is 00:34:38 so that's not compelling evidence of anything. The fact that they were on their phone sounds to me like that could have been in response to them seeing him stalking them. If I were like hanging out at a gas station and some dude was staring at me from his car for like 10 minutes, I'd probably call someone too because that dude's probably going to attack you. This story is insane. And like I said, the only reason I don't take it very seriously is I think that Alex is just making this up sound like he's a Crusading hero to his audience. It's so wild that you could imagine that this like makes you sound good Yeah, he sounds like an ambivalent predator. That's the way this comes off Yeah Also, it should probably be a way bigger deal that Trump is getting an F-minus on the finding the kids front
Starting point is 00:35:21 Well seems like you should be taking that a little bit harder than you are. Well, I mean, it's just in his mind, a million children missing and being trafficked. F minus, D minus, A, it's all the same. Right. It's all the same, right? I would think it's a deal breaker. You would think!
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah. You would think real hard about that. F minus on that one. But then, you know what, even, okay, disregarding all of the obvious fucking terrifying behaviors that he is engaging in. Let's say we are in a serious, they are being trafficked scenario. If your justification for leaving them and doing nothing is, generals don't intervene, you're also a fucking lunatic. What? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:07 That's a crazy thing to think in response to this. You could think things like none of my business. That's fine. That's fine. Not generals don't intervene. What? No, because I think that Alex got over that rebuttal. Sure. Like I think he realized he's a general, but he does sometimes get involved. I think if you actually listen to what he's saying, he is very aware that he knows nothing about what's going on. He knows that he's making assumptions about these people, and if he were to just hang
Starting point is 00:36:38 out there and wait or stalk them, they might call the police on him. Well, I mean, the obvious thing to do is if you're Alex Jones, roll the window down, shout, Excuse me, whores! Are you okay? Is a John coming? Can I help you? If so, do you need security? What can I do to help facilitate this sex work opportunity? I used to be a bouncer at a strip club. Right? I can help you out.
Starting point is 00:37:04 If you need physical protection, some men are out there, they're scary out there. this sex work opportunity. I used to be a bouncer at a strip club. Right? I can help you out. If you need physical protection, some men are out there, they're scary out there. Maybe I can help you out, but I'm not gonna get in your life. Yeah, if you need security, my friend, I'm friends with Joe Rogan, who knows people from the UFC, they fight a lot.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I don't think that's probably the way to go though. Nah. Nah. I just think, that story made me feel ill when I heard it, and like, it's that Alex Jones genre of like, if you are telling a sincere thing, you are so fucked up. And if you're making this up, you're revealing a very fucked up brain.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, you need help, man. You need help on so many different levels and ways. It's true. So he, Alex, he's talking a lot about RFK's banning of all of these chemicals. And I noticed like, oh, wait a second. This is all just to lead up to an ad. The advertising has at least played a factor
Starting point is 00:38:02 to that revenue, that extraordinary revenue stream and disabling their capacity or their inclination for skepticism and for critical thinking. So Americans don't know what they're eating and they don't know the implications of those things. So we have the sickest mitochondria in the world. You must have iodine. It's essential for mitochondria in the world. You
Starting point is 00:38:26 must have iodine. It's essential for mitochondrial electrochemical generation. It is. It is. It is the it is the foundation of it all. But what else does incredible things for your mitochondrial system and cleans them out and make some
Starting point is 00:38:42 healthier on record. The Germans invented it for health and energy, even know why it worked. The first patented drug ever. We don't sell it as that. It's a supplement, but Methylene blue. Why does Robert F. Kennedy take three droppers of a day? By the way, that's triple the dose you're supposed to take. So to consult your physician. We have the strongest medical grade USP, methylene blue, ultramethylene blue at thealexjonesstore.com. Yeah. So there's a very long RFK segment and it just is leading up to this payoff where he's trying to sell the methylene blue. And man, RFK has taken triple dose of methylene
Starting point is 00:39:22 blue. Woo. Look at that man. Yeah. Nobody looks healthier than him.F.K. is taking triple dose of methylene blue. Woo! Look at that man. Nobody looks healthier than him. Yep. Yep, he does not look like he's about to fall apart like a skeleton at any given moment. Do you wanna be good at pranks that are very funny and very cool?
Starting point is 00:39:35 Take methylene blue? That works. So yeah, that was a little bit deflating, I think. Realizing that this might as well have all been an infomercial. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one long, we're gonna have to put a clock on this. Yeah. So Alex has a guest on and this guest I found a little bit shocking. This is a person named Kathy O'Brien. Have you ever heard of her? No.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Okay, we'll talk about her in a minute. So at the beginning of their interview, Alex tried to play it off like they didn't really know each other. Sure. And so this was a problem. When you and I met 30 years ago, I was speaking out on my daughter's behalf. Not only was she born into MK Ultra Mind Control and exposed to the same room with her. And I was in the same room on her daughter's behalf. Not only was she born into MK Ultra
Starting point is 00:40:28 Mind Control and exposed to the same military dark and NASA MK Ultra Mind Control programming that I want. But she was then thrust into the corrupted so called child protective services. And when that happened, I was speaking out because by then I had gained my free thought, my free speech, and it was love for her that compelled me to speak out. And it was that long ago
Starting point is 00:40:51 when you and I first met. And my gosh, look at the world of change that has happened since those days and the world of change that has yet to happen because we have got to get this problem stopped. Absolutely, and just for people that don't know, when I first read your book, it had to be 30, 31 years ago, so I was just kidding on air. And I had a lot of knowledge, but it was about you guys with a beta test and it was meant to externalize into the total culture takeover of mass mind control. And then a lot of this was already come out in the the CIA. And then, you know, using these children for couriers for spies creating
Starting point is 00:41:49 artificial. Multiple personalities, electro shock, you know, chemicals. I mean, literal mind control, Manchurian candidate stuff. That's not just a movie. With Frank Sinatra. The imagine with Children. That's where
Starting point is 00:42:01 you can really do it. And. And then now, as I learned more more it was a hundred percent real a hundred percent dead on and Your book today because I just reread it last year is Not evergreen but ultra green in that it is more powerful than ever and the film Which I need to see and I want to talk about your film I need to see that people need to see that so as soon as I heard Kathy mentioned knowing Alex in the past I knew that he would immediately have to respond to that and explain how they could have been in contact before Because he tried to play a game early in the episode Where he's saying he was gonna have Kathy on he was like
Starting point is 00:42:39 I you know read her book decades ago and the claims are so sensational in them I just couldn't believe them. But now that he's learned more, everything that she said is proven and documented and all this stuff. The idea is supposed to be that even he thought she was nuts back in the day, but now he sees the light. That game is kind of disrupted if they actually had met and were working together back in the old days when he was supposed to think she was nuts.
Starting point is 00:43:04 So Alex has to jump in there to try and right the ship. And that's what you can see in that clip. There's a reason why this matters that may not be readily apparent to folks who haven't spent a lot of time in the conspiracy community. If you've taken in a lot of this content, you already definitely know who Kathy O'Brien is and you already have a pretty set opinion of her. She's made a ton of wild claims over the years and provided no evidence for any of it. So a lot of people in the truth seeking world don't really have a high opinion of her. She's like been someone who's been
Starting point is 00:43:33 around forever and her basic story is that she was a MK ultra abuse survivor and was owned by Gerald Ford among other things. She's kind of like an MKUltra Steve Pacienek. Right. Was she an MKUltra though? I don't think there's ever been any evidence that has shown that. There's a reason that Alex pretended not to know Kathy and hasn't had her on regularly. And that's because the pre-Trump audience that Alex had would see it as embarrassing for him to be
Starting point is 00:44:07 interviewing her. Alex having her on is kind of a signal that whatever standards he used to pretend to uphold her out the window, so he has to be kind of defensive about having this booking. Right. Kathy's done hundreds of interviews so it's not like this is a git for him or anything and all of her claims have been widely discussed in conspiracy circles for the past 30 years Over the years Alex has gotten a lot of calls about Kathy and he's shockingly consistent in his response He's usually very quick to move along being sure to say that he can't prove anything that she's saying so he doesn't want to get
Starting point is 00:44:40 Involved the kind of hey, I'm not gonna say It's bullshit. Sure. I'm very hesitant to sure involved. The kind of, uh, hey, I'm not going to say it's bullshit. I'm very hesitant to sign off on any of this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then came Trump in 2016, Alex realized that there was a way that he could use Kathy and he was pretty explicit about it on air. I'm going to play a few of these clips, play a couple of minutes from a Kathy O'Brien interview that she did 15 plus years ago. She's been on this broadcast a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:45:08 You know, she says that Hillary Clinton raped and abused her. And I know that Hillary has a very shorted, twisted past. A lot of credible people have asked me to have her on. So I'm looking to do that, but that's coming up here in a few minutes. You know, they're having people with no proof, absolutely no proof. You know, come on, make up all these wild things about Trump, so I never really went there with O'Brien, but you want us to, you want to play by those rules, we will." Alex was mad about what he viewed as baseless sexual assault claims being made against Trump,
Starting point is 00:45:36 and he thought, I know someone who can make some baseless sexual assault claims. This is a man who wants to cynically exploit this woman, who he's intentionally avoided being associated with for years. Because he could use her to attack Hillary, Alex warmed up a bit to Kathy, but he still wasn't going to have her on the show. She was too well known a character in the conspiracy world, and giving her too much credibility meant that you weren't too interested in evidence. Alex having her on is a symbolic act of him declaring that he doesn't care about pretending
Starting point is 00:46:04 for that old conspiracy audience anymore at all. She's gonna say some inflammatory shit and maybe he can get some clickbait for Twitter out of it and that's really all that matters. Like I find it difficult to put this exactly into words like how much this is a really subtle but profound thing to have her on. It's kind of it's like him having Mark Richards on. Yeah, I mean, this is, uh, you know, I would almost feel like, uh, what? Wistful? Mm. I mean, there's a way to look at it as him being forced back into his early days. You know, he was here, and then he rose, and then he's fallen, and now he's here again with Kathy O'Brien and she's pretty much stayed at the exact same place the entire time.
Starting point is 00:46:49 So maybe there's something to be said about man, you're back at your roots now, start over. I think of this as more the erosion of Alex's pretend standards. You know it's the same thing where those old clips of him talking about how like David Icke is the turd in the punch Bowl and stuff like that sure It's just like oh you you've let yourself drop from whatever pretense you had of caring Yeah, you know in the back in the back in the days like I don't talk about alien stuff only things I can prove
Starting point is 00:47:18 Yeah, that wasn't true then but it was a good image and that image has fallen apart I would say right I agree with you. To me it's a little bit professional wrestling you know. There's gonna be a split then there's gonna be a get back together. These dum-dums hate each other and then they get on the same stage together all the time you know like they're a bunch of idiots. I don't think that he and Kathy work together too closely, but he was circling her more than he wants to. Now it's right on into the castle gates together. Yeah, we both are fighting demons.
Starting point is 00:47:58 All right. Fun. So Alex is gonna take some calls with Kathy, and I found this to be a weird thing that he says. I was about to say, I mean, you've been disposing of this longer than I because you went through it but we got very slow movement now. Now things are rushing at light speed comparatively. So people that are just now waking up, I get you on instant results.
Starting point is 00:48:19 We're getting things way faster. Praise God. Stay right there. You've agreed to stay the next hour. We're also going to take some calls. Be respectful folks and you you know serious questions here, which I know we're gonna give this is what? He's amazing. I've been through a lot you get to talk to Really you the ultimate whistleblower all confirmed amazing information get her book Wow at transformation.com. You must read it I think Alex is being like preemptively defensive
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah, like cuz I think he has a suspicion that some callers are going to be like what are you doing he doesn't get any of those calls yeah I think a fair amount of that is cuz it only takes a few and they're screened yeah but like yeah I I think he has every reason to think like this could go bad mmm it doesn't yeah I wonder I wonder where these guys are, like with their whole standards thing, because there's gotta be a confusion for all of these dum-dums. Even Tucker and all this stuff of like, how far can we really go with this? People seem to be coming along a long way, and a lot farther than maybe we ever even imagined we could get to.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And it feels like we haven't found the bottom yet. Tucker got attacked by a demon. Right? Like we could go fucking anywhere now. It's on the table. Tucker got up in front of a crowd of people and said, daddy's home. Talking about Trump getting reelected. What do we have to do?
Starting point is 00:49:43 Daddy's home and he wants to give you a spanking. I think at a certain point, there's a morbid fascination that some of them have to have of just like, is there anything I could do to get stopped? Is there anything these people won't accept? I would wanna find out, right? Yeah, I mean, Tucker could be sitting around hitting the bong.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Absolutely. And then just being like, I'm gonna fuck around and turn Alex Jones into a profit Absolutely, I don't do it stop me who's gonna stop me no one Worried if we can we have to ask if we should no I don't give it too late We should has gone way out the window now. It's all about can so Alex avoided association with Cathy for many, many years and then wanted to trot her out in order to make baseless accusations against Hillary in order to play defense for accusations against Trump.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Always fun. But that didn't happen either. But now it's very clear what he wants to use her for. And that is anti LGBTQ propaganda. Right? She's gonna take some phone calls coming up about 1520 minutes. We're specifically talking about MK ultra mind control, the externalization of the trans movement, the left openly sexualization children, they're they're they're they're making their move and humanity is fighting back. And the public
Starting point is 00:51:10 and private schools of the big grants literally trying to cut your children away from you and put them in a cult and not tell the parents. I mean, this is beyond evil. It's hiding in plain view. It's all over the world. Drag Queen
Starting point is 00:51:21 story time from Australia to the U. S. Funded by Black Rock convicted pedophiles. Many cases, men dressed like clowns saying they're a woman little the the different choirs of San Francisco choir. We're coming for your kids were grooming them. We'll get them. You'll never stop us. Texas Legislature month ago. These people testifying. We need
Starting point is 00:51:51 access to your Children. Give us your Children. We're here to groom them that they are out in the open. They are making their move. Kathy O'Brien is our guest toll free number to join us 877-789-2539-877-789. Alex, and remember, all over the country now, the private big hospitals give a form at birth
Starting point is 00:52:14 with dozens of names. Your child's gay, they're trans, they're queer, whatever. They're all these terms as if the baby can choose. But no, now the parents choose. So this is what Alex wants to use Cathy for now. She's a high profile child abuse survivor and Alex wants to use her story to demonize LGBTQ folk. It's very clear and he should be ashamed.
Starting point is 00:52:35 It's garbage. All of those things he's saying are just nonsense we've discussed in the past, but that last part, the one with the birth certificate, that's new. Alex is misreporting a story from New Jersey where a new parent was asked on a form they had to fill out what the gender identity and sexual orientation of their baby was. It wasn't on the child's birth certificate, but you can kind of see how this is still a bit weird. In 2021, New Jersey passed a law that required hospitals to collect more demographic information from patients, ostensibly in an effort to provide better care. As a part of following that state law, at least one medical company, Inspira Health,
Starting point is 00:53:13 created a form that asked parents for this information about their newborn children. There are a thousand articles that have been written about this form, and New Jersey Republicans have been making a big deal out of it, but it seems to me like all of these stories trace back to this Inspira Health company. From everything I can tell, this was a well-meaning piece of legislation that was taken too literally by this one healthcare company to the point where they were collecting demographic information that's kind of ridiculous. These hospitals don't need to be asking for a baby's sexual orientation or gender identity, but it's clear what the intention of this legislation is and that's what Alex is attacking
Starting point is 00:53:49 He just wants LGBTQ folk to feel stigmatized and unwelcome in public and Yeah, the form is a little silly. Yeah, it's not cause for the things that he's trying to justify No, no, no, but you know, you've got good intentions and then you do some dumb shit like this, and here we are. Yep, it's a mess. Yeah. And I feel conflicted about Cathy too,
Starting point is 00:54:19 because I haven't thought about her in a long time. She was a figure that I was well aware of when I would go and read conspiracy blogs and stuff like that back in the day. And my feeling on it is I think there's probably some trauma there. I don't know what it is. I don't believe that she was owned by Gerald Ford. And I don't have necessarily reason to believe a lot of the stories sure but I don't want to shit on Her too much right at the same time. She's expressing opinions. She's going right along with Alex's demonization Yeah, like it's not like Alex is completely hijacking her shit, right? complicit participant in it, right
Starting point is 00:55:01 I mean, I think I think it really does kind of halfway come down to the whole MK Ultra thing. If she's like, like, okay, so Ken Kesey is in MK Ultra. And then he gets on a bus and starts freaking people out, giving them LSD. These things make sense. Right? That's that follows. Right. And then you do the books and then you do the thing, you know, it made then you run away to Mexico. Of course you do, because that's what happens when the government tries to mind control you, right? Well, but yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:55:31 Now, it's reasonable behavior to then do that. If he wasn't in the government mind controlling you thing, that shit's crazy. That's crazy behavior. That's not okay. I don't know. I mean, I think if you aren't in the in a government program and you just take a ton of drugs, you might go and try and freak people out to sure. Absolutely. Hunter S Thompson wasn't an MK ultra and
Starting point is 00:55:53 he's a fucking weirdo. Yeah, but he was a fucking weirdo. He wasn't a guy who is in a government mind control program and then did all of this stuff, you know, right? Yeah. But for every Ken Kesey and Unabomber, there's probably a number of people we don't, we don't know their names. They might have gone on to live fairly boring lives. Totally. Yeah. You don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:14 But we don't know. Anyway, I don't know what her story is and I don't want to, I don't want to shit on her, but I find it repulsive. This whole thing. And I think it's indicative of a backslide that Alex is Experiencing with like whatever I can do for attention anything. It doesn't matter. Yeah, I agree so we jump to the 24th, okay, and This show starts with what I would describe as a half an hour of Alex rambling about a new James O'Keefe video Oh great about how they have uncovered definitive evidence of coup plots within the government.
Starting point is 00:56:46 It is uncompelling and it is just trying to justify Trump cracking down on anyone and any opposition to him at all. Throw him in a prison. Just stalling it, get rid of those people in the photographs. You don't need them anymore. Yeah. It is exhausting. I was listening to this episode
Starting point is 00:57:07 and I'm like, this is just nothing. I thought we were done with O'Kee. Wasn't he in jail or some shit? No, he got forced out of Veritas. Right. Because he was doing like musicals and stuff with company money. And I think they said, enough of this.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I don't want you, we're not paying for your DJ equipment. That's fair. And all this. That's fair. And so he got forced out of that. And then he started his own thing. I think he was incorporated with Tucker somehow, but that might be a little bit more distant now.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I don't know, he's just still doing his stings. I've, you know, I never thought I would get get here like if you had told me when I was young and reading this particular book I would never have been like well, obviously we're going to get to this place someday Yeah, if you see the acorn video like back in the day Yeah, James O'Keefe dressed up like a pimp and all that stuff You're never gonna be like we're still gonna be hearing about this guy. Yeah. In 15 years.
Starting point is 00:58:07 So when I was reading the Scarlet Letter, right, I'm looking at Hester Prynne and I'm going, that's wrong, they shouldn't have done that shit. But now I'm living in a James O'Keefe continues world and I'm like, man, we gotta brand some assholes. Big old A right on top of his head, asshole, we move on. You're talking about an inglorious bastard.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Listen, hey, it is what it is. Everybody gets to make their own choices. So I was wading through this water, and I was like, there's not much in this here pond. Yeah. And then Alex starts talking about Elon Musk's family. Great. And so a lot of powerful people that were just
Starting point is 00:58:46 going along with the system, doing their projects that were overall moral, but had to have the approval of the globalist even run their industries and services, realized there was no more room to coexist with Satan. There's never room to coexist. You're being put into a trap. And it got so bad that a lot of people from the grassroots up went. Whoa. I mean, Elon Musk, the most powerful people in the world, even at the time of the richest. Steering COVID is
Starting point is 00:59:22 nine 10 year old son. Uh with the baby mama wants to go to the the It's really this evil? It's really this bad? He was always for more people. He was always for prosperity. He was always pro-human, but he thought Alex Jones was extreme. He thought it was a little exaggerated. Then he found out, no. And these people are so evil and so arrogant, they thought they could take his child as a prize. So Alex is talking about Musk's daughter Vivian here, and it's interesting to note how Alex doesn't know any of the details of her story, but has chosen to write his own version in order to hear a worship Musk.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Alex is saying that Vivian was 9 or 10 during COVID, which isn't true. She was 16 in 2020 when she became more public about her gender identity. She's been very public about how much of a piece of shit Elon is and how he's lying about her. She said, quote, he doesn't know what I was like as a child because he quite simply wasn't there. And in the little time that he was, I was relentlessly harassed for my femininity and queerness. Alex is making up basic details about this story and lying about it in order to enable and glorify Musk's abusive parenting. And that sucks.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Yeah. Sucks a lot. I, I can honestly say that I don't give a shit what this guy believes about families, about children, about any of that stuff. Why he thinks having 15 of them is a good idea when he could feed every orphan in the world 20 million times over. So he obviously doesn't give a fuck about children and he can go fuck himself.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Well, look, what good is food if comedy is illegal? I mean, make all orphans your kids. Now you're the most have kids guy ever. You can pay for all their shit and you will parent them an equal amount. Can you imagine what Alex would do with Elon Musk's buying up all the kids? Adopt all children. Elon Musk owns all children now. All unwanted for children live with Elon Musk and are paid for by him.
Starting point is 01:02:05 See, this introduces the can God create a boulder so large he can't pick it up kind of thing. Right. Could Elon Musk pull that off and keep Alex on board? Or is it just too good of a conspiracy? I mean, he's buying up all the children. He's buying all the children. How could you not though?
Starting point is 01:02:23 Like how insane do you have to be to genuinely be like, oh, I need to have 15 kids to populate the earth, but feeding all of the orphans on this fucking planet. It's crazy. Yeah. It's, it's missing the forest for the trees a little bit. Yeah. Um, so Alex is in a mood and uh, it's probably because he's probably about to go out of business. But he spends a bit of time ranting about how they've made a lot of successes. They've won a lot against the globalists. But a lot of people just don't have the stomach to land the killing blow.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And that's what they need to do. They just need to kill them. Okay. Now we have to have the courage to finish the job, to deal the blow, to finish them. And there are people scared, oh, we can't court-martial three-star generals. Oh, we can't court martial three star generals. Oh, we can't court martial. High level officers. Oh, we can't indict FBI agents for treason. Oh, but you can shoot the populist president and try to
Starting point is 01:03:40 kill him at his golf course at Pennsylvania. Oh you can. You can kidnap our kids and chop them up. Oh, you can human traffic a million kids over the border that disappeared. Oh, you can start World War III. See, the consequences of letting them continue on are a trillion times a trillion infinity worse than whatever the consequences are for the men that have got to do what must be done.
Starting point is 01:04:04 that have got to do what must be done. I have no fear of what they can do to me or my family, because they're all destroyed anyways if this thing wins. I only have fear of failure. And if you realize the power you had, and if you simply stepped into that office that God has created for you, that agency of God's will to go do God's will, to fight evil, to expose evil,
Starting point is 01:04:37 you will be as bold as a lion. I have no fear. It's a distant memory. I've not had fear in 30 years. All I have is determination and anger at the idea of failure. I don't fear failure. I am angry at failure. I am enraged that I'm not strong enough that my oratory skill and my mind cannot transmit the total truth to you
Starting point is 01:05:21 so that you would know you have no choice but to fight these people. If you saw your supposed choice, you would know there was no choice at all. But people out of fear and laziness think, What do you do? Well, it's all of us doing little things together. I'll go to break. I'll come back with a deep dive on the
Starting point is 01:05:56 ongoing cube, but and I'll try to do a recap. It's quick for everybody. We can get out on X. Everybody can't sit around for an hour. You know, you start up to three hours. What's your football game or baseball game? But you know, how did come on man, we got stuff to do. I mean, you know, there's a game on tonight.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah, well, you know we're all being slowly killed right now, right? I would argue that people are more likely to watch football than listen to Alex's show because Alex's show sucks. He's an angry dipshit getting lost in his own feelings and vomiting his fantasies into a mic. Even if you don't think he's full of shit, it would be difficult to listen to this show and imagine that you're getting any benefit out of it.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Just look at Twitter and imagine what the angriest response you could have to a tweet is and you've saved yourself some time. That's as good as it gets. What Alex is saying in that clip is the kind of thing that you can imagine being played in a historical documentary tracking the rise of an authoritarian ruler. He's straight up just saying that Trump needs to seize all power and jail his political enemies and that some people don't have the stomach for that kind of show of strength. They aren't man enough to do what needs to be done.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And that frustrates Alex because as he's displaying in that clip, he's done all the work for them. He's helped create a bunch of the narratives that they can use to justify why Trump doing dictator shit is good. He's laying out all of these things. Oh, it's fine to shoot at Trump. Oh, it's fine to smuggle a million people across the border. He's laying out his like, run with this. I've done it.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep. I've given you the bricks, make the wall, make the building. That's good stuff. Like to listen to it, you know? Here's what I would say, right? First off, it's always good whenever all the dumbest people get rid of all the competent people in their organization. They tend to run them great after that.
Starting point is 01:07:54 So that's always good to look forward to. And then second, I would like to have a summer stock with Alex's Henry V. I would like to hear his St. Crispin's Day speech. It is. He was a little... He was doing a little of the theater. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was on the boards. I would like to see him try and improvise his way through a half-remembered St. Crispin's Day speech.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I think it would still be stirring. And it would have an interesting and novel take on it. Yeah. As long as he gave him a little apple juice. Well, I think that's the theater, my friend. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he's going to be good at improvising that sober. Yeah, I imagine so. So Alex is like, I think he started declaring independence. Okay. Up for that. I feel, I think that's where this is. And then it just becomes clear. That's like, Oh man, he actually thinks he's going out of business. Oh,
Starting point is 01:08:50 whereas populace, whereas the people, whereas the elected government, whereas the legitimate people, we just accept that they do this to us and do our children and do our bodies and to our minds. Well, I'm done accepting it. And I'm not here and my family's not here and you're not here to be shed all over by these demons. All right, we're going to break. Please share the live feed critical information
Starting point is 01:09:24 coming up from all of Jones. I'd say share it from info wars dot com forward slash show. We can be shut down as early as next Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We've survived a lot of stuff, but this is court final
Starting point is 01:09:35 judgment stuff. This is It didn't. They've so discredited themselves. It's hilarious, but it is what it is. But the great news is they don't own the Alex show store.com. That's our sponsor. They don't own the Alex shows network because I don't know that they can't get it and all the other
Starting point is 01:09:56 stuff that's been built that you don't even know about. And what's funding in is that you are all right there and you going to it. The Alex show store.com. And everybody should become a VIP when you get the ultra methylene blue that I got on my hands I took some of it earlier Hard to wash off. It's good sales pitch. Yeah, that that's great to know that stains. I will Skin, I will look like I just robbed a bank all the time cool. All right, okay. I'm just a smurf. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:10:22 So yeah, I don't know I think I find this a little bit more convincing than times in the past where he seemed bummed out. Sure. And I think it's because it goes on. Like he's in this funk for this episode. And I mean, basically, what he's expressing is I've run out. I've run out of moves. There is no other, the Connecticut Supreme Court ruled that they're not going to hear my appeal. Right. Right. I don't have anything left to do. There's no more kicks for the can down the road.
Starting point is 01:10:58 And I think that he's just saying that pretty much openly. But let me just give you a quick update first on Infowars and its future. I know that everybody's gotten a little lackadaisical, including me and the crew. And I don't mean we're laying around and we're bad. We have been through seven years of lawfare and attacks and dirty tricks of every type.
Starting point is 01:11:22 And groups coming in with armed security being ordered to close the doors by the Justice Department to the bankruptcy with no court order. I said no, didn't leave. People couldn't believe they did it. Then it was admitted in the news and court it happened. It's insane. I know it's hard to believe. And then they had a fake auction. The Bloomberg financed onion. Satirical communist publication. That all got shot down because it was illegal. I
Starting point is 01:11:54 told you that would happen. But now they've got a final judgment out of Connecticut with their show trial. And. It's 20 days after that judgment that they're able to bring it here. And they're going to come to that judgment that they're able to bring it to Texas. They already have a turnover order with where
Starting point is 01:12:07 gamble that ran the show trial. Under Texas law wasn't even supposed to go to her to decide that supposed to get rotates and it's randomly picked. Yeah, right out of hundreds of judges. She gets picked again. He's already said grab
Starting point is 01:12:21 everything. So but. Anytime Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I expect him to come quickly. They are going to try to come in here. And when they come with the court order with the sheriff's someone Hey, how you doing? They're going to either grab all the equipment or they could just put a sticker on the
Starting point is 01:12:38 door and say, Get out. It varies how they do it, and I'm not going to resist them. I mean, friendly. They're just doing their job delivering something not their fault corrupts your system and judge and all that. So anything else? Hey, we got some coffee. You know, in here fresh.
Starting point is 01:12:51 And then we basically already gotten our stuff out. Even my sports jackets and stuff. I just keep it home now instead of here. Got a few more things to get out. Lamentos on the walls, you know, you know, deer I shot 30 years ago. There's a few things mounted on the wall. A few things we got to get out. He sounds done. I Mean when you're taking a deer off the wall, yeah, that's kind of a big deal
Starting point is 01:13:13 Yeah, this is this does feel to me like a resignation, you know, like I got nothing else to do I thought that Supreme Court thing was gonna hang a little bit longer or maybe they would actually hear the case. I could grandstand during that. We could buy a bunch of time and you know, but it's not going to happen. It's going to go back to the Texas courts and they're not, they're going to take my shit. Yeah. So hopefully that's it. It seems like there are not many impediments left. I mean, you know, we felt that way many times. I no longer I no longer anticipate. I just if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Yeah, you know, it is what it is. I agree with that perspective not to get overly like, aha, this time. But you can't deny his mood. It's a bad mood. It's a bad mood. The man lives in bad mood. But it's not an deny his mood. It's a bad mood. It's a bad mood the man Lives in bad mood, but it's not an angry bad mood. It's like Boats sunk what you're gonna do fuck it. I mean I do I do like
Starting point is 01:14:16 the literal Embodiment of the problem with what is happened which is is like, well, they're going to take everything next week. So I'm going to take everything first. And then when they get here, there will be nothing here. Obviously, obviously I'm going to do that. What am I stupid? Well, but I think in this case, it's actually like fine because it's probably not like company
Starting point is 01:14:40 assets that he's writing. It's not like he's taking the servers, right? Right, right, right. Although he might be exactly giving them to Alex Jones that's the problem show dot org or whatever the fuck his new show is right he totally doesn't own right it is not that he is taking everything or whatever it's that I don't know what he's taking and I do know he is taking something that he should not have yeah but if it's if it's deer heads and sport coats no No! I want those too! That's the point!
Starting point is 01:15:05 That's the point of consequences for his actions! I want it all! I want everything! I've seen his sport coats. I'm not interested. I don't want them. I want to burn them! Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Yeah. Take it up with the Texas courts. I'll see what I can do. So when you're in a bad mood and you're down and you think that your ship has sunk, what do you do? Ice ship has sunk. Yeah. What do you do? Ice cream? No. Oh. Interview someone who's arguably a bigger loser than you. Oh that sounds actually smart. So Alex has Canadian politician Maxime Bernier on. Max Bernier is our guest and I'm everybody knows who he is now. I've been
Starting point is 01:15:43 following him for years but he's been doing a great job on all the big podcasts the the the the the the the the the the
Starting point is 01:16:00 the the the the the the the the the the
Starting point is 01:16:16 the the the the the the the party. They're not trying to get the election way ahead. And their policies are being adopted by the other conservative party just to try
Starting point is 01:16:30 to survive. That's victory. You're a leader. You're not trying to conform to the globalist. So they'll let you in their party when you are the guy that kept getting voted to be the leader, but they wouldn't let people have it for
Starting point is 01:16:39 those that don't know what we're over in years ago. That's why you left the party. So you've gone out to reform things as a leader and build a real populist conservative party. I think I've recapped your stance in the real history there. But that's why I'm supporting you over the other so-called conservative. So there's a real trend of semi relevant foreign politicians coming on Alex's show in the past year or so. And I have a theory that it's because the bar for semi relevance in politicians has lowered drastically since COVID. So Bernier is a long-time conservative politician in Canada where he's been a part of some cabinets over the years.
Starting point is 01:17:12 He ran for the leadership position in the Conservative Party in 2017 but lost, so he decided he was going to start a more libertarian party, the People's Party. He lost his seat in Parliament after that and has run unsuccessfully to get it back, including, he's run twice unsuccessfully, including this year when he came in fourth in his home area of Boas, where he got 3,628 votes. Eee.
Starting point is 01:17:36 That's under one-tenth of what the winner got in that race. He did not do well. That's not good. In that election, the conservatives got trounced, probably slightly due to the old Trump wanting to take over the country and the conservative candidate being a little bit okay with that. Yeah, that is an issue.
Starting point is 01:17:53 All in all, both the conservative and liberal parties got a higher share of the vote in that election than the past one. So it appears that both sides are kind of moving towards more center positions. If I had to read the charts and give a guess. Sure. It's really wild how much promotion Bernier got from the American right wing media before this election and how little it mattered in terms of votes for him or his party. He was all over the place. He was on with Alex on with Tucker, Patrick David just to name a few and he got
Starting point is 01:18:28 3628 votes and his party has no Representatives elected. Yeah, that's kind of encouraging in as much as it kind of shows that I don't know How much traction a lot of this dumb bullshit has in? Foreign countries like you can have this guy on and it doesn't move the needle. Sgt. Darin Jones I mean, or that it's not about, okay, maybe it's this. Maybe it's that if you are local, you can do good. But if you are pushed globally, it has nothing to do with your little area and everything to do with making everybody worse. You know, like, it's not affecting his area where he could get elected. It's affecting everywhere. You know, it's the internet that is his shitting grounds. Constituency. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it's kind of the inverse of like, you know, sometimes bands got to go to Europe in order to make it big. Sure. You know, like the Beatles.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Yeah. Going to Hamburg. Yeah, it's not the popular music in Canada right now. It's popular in the United States. Yeah, but I think it's kind of the reverse because I think that it actually makes you less popular in the country you came from to try and pander to this audience in America. In 2025, it sure does. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:46 So anyway, Bernier sucks. And I found this dynamic really interesting. And that is that I think Alex thinks he kind of sucks too. I think that he thinks that Maxim is not a winner. He does not have it. 3,000 is a loser amount of votes. Yeah. And so I noticed that Alex was pretty early in the interview making it mostly about Bolsonaro.
Starting point is 01:20:11 And that's not good. I like that. When you are another foreign politician. That's fun. It's very strange. Real quick. He plays a clip of Bolsonaro being handed some documents in the hospital. So that's the audio you're hearing there.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Now, if you look it up under the law, he gets two months until he can go to one of these judicial trials, star chambers. Oh, sorry, you have five days. Magically delivered when he comes out of anesthesia. Max, I mean, this is just insane. the court. He's a man of speech. He's magically deliberate when he comes out of anesthesia. Max I mean, this is just insane. We have the same in Canada
Starting point is 01:20:55 with our court system. Actually during Covid-19. We had a charter of rights like you, the First Amendment and you know, the court didn't want to judge about that. They are saying, you know, Oh oh no, that's not important. They didn't listen or didn't want to hear our case. You know, I was handcuffed and put in jail for a non-crime during COVID-19.
Starting point is 01:21:10 And so we have woke judges. And I just want to give you an anecdote. I was in the court in Canada to fight for freedoms. And I was a witness and the judge did ask me, you know what, a question. And he said, Kelly, what is your name? And I said, Maxine Bernier, can you spell your name? I said, yes, M-A-X-I-M-E-B-E-R-N-I-E-R.
Starting point is 01:21:34 And the third and the last question was, what are your pronouns in the court court? I said to the judge, can you look at me? I'm a male and I said to the judge. Can you look at me? I'm a male and I want to answer that question. We have woke judges and all that woke
Starting point is 01:21:54 ideology. It is in our court in Canada right now, so we need to get rid of that. I want to get into your amazing Tucker interview last week. You made some really powerful points. It went viral and I want to elaborate on that. I think there's more has happened now. But if you're Maxim Bernier, you need to recognize at this point in the interview that Alex is not taking you seriously. He's spending a good chunk of your airtime right before your election complaining about
Starting point is 01:22:19 how mean Brazil is being to Bolsonaro. Yeah. Bernier's got some good instincts though. You see that he steered the conversation right back to Canada and he tried to get some good topics in there that Alex will like. He got COVID tyranny and woke judges, so that should be fertile ground. But Alex just seems unamused and he wants to talk about the interview with Tucker. It's very clear that Alex does not see Bernier as a contender, which makes sense.
Starting point is 01:22:44 He comes off as a dork. Bernier got in some legal trouble during COVID for not following public health guidance. In 2021, he got a ticket for not self-quarantining upon arriving in Manitoba and for putting together a public gathering. The irony of that is that according to CBC, quote, no more than 15 people were in attendance for his rally. So it was probably pretty close to being under the safe threshold for gatherings even at the time ouch So that's that should he's not not very popular. Then it doesn't seem like it I always like you know how so there's always the the German word German is the language that I think is we're most familiar with The idea of people like coming up with these words that are somewhat untranslatable into English. And then there's Mandarin words and Jan.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Those kinds of things that are just said. And so you'll be speaking English with somebody and then out of nowhere they'll just drop a word that's clearly from there and they're like, I'll try and explain the concept to you. America so much has that with the worst possible words like it doesn't matter like woke Like you can be listening to somebody speaks Swahili, and then out of nowhere woke judges, and you're like fuck What does it take to get these people free? Yeah? It's it's it seems it is disorienting. Yeah, you know just like with this guy with
Starting point is 01:24:02 It is disorienting. Yeah. You know, just like this guy with woke judges. Because it really is an untranslatable concept. It is only, you can only understand it if you are speaking woke judges. Because then you're like, oh, well, it's some lunatic American thing. Yeah. Well, you can translate it and maybe not precisely it involves grievance, right? It somehow is this person is angry about someone else about what let's let's not ask the about what question
Starting point is 01:24:32 Yeah, it's something is something is making them mad and that is what this judge is woke about There is a bigotry that lies deep within them that is being sort of poked by someone else being polite Yeah, and it makes them really mad. Yep. So they call it woke. Yes. Cool. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Good electoral strategy. Yeah. So I think that Max sucks. Yep. And I know that he doesn't like multiculturalism because he says so in this next clip. Well, that'll help. Before they start complaining about how there's not enough white people at the Eiffel Tower. What are you gonna do
Starting point is 01:25:05 we have that in our country alex because of mass immigration and because of multiculturalism saying people we open our doors to immigration and we are telling people you can come here don't share our values keep your culture and you know we will promote you keeping
Starting point is 01:25:26 your culture and not being part of this country. The federal government is doing that. So you have people who are coming here, they're coming here or need to have a better economic future, and they're living in ghettos, and they don't, some of them don't speak in ghettos. Oh, I saw footage yesterday of the Eiffel Tower area and look nothing against Africans but there was this is something like as far as it was Africa and and then the governments go oh white people are bad Europeans are bad and and and they sign them up for a communist anti European mindset the whole clergy plan whole replacement migration people don't know we've been flooded with replacement migration. Adam Backer So just to be clear, Alex calling that the
Starting point is 01:26:08 Calergy plan is explicit white supremacist signaling. He knows exactly what he's doing. Using that terminology, he's pointing to a certain group. And that's awful. These people are awful. Greg Foss Just, hey, listen, nothing bad about Africa. You're done. You're done. You've already said something bad about Africa. Hey, nothing bad about Africa, but there's too many black people in Paris.
Starting point is 01:26:33 I don't understand how that isn't against Africa. It's against something. So there's a caller who calls in who's against Maxim. Okay. And he has a pretty good position. All right. And that is what Alex tried to be defensive about as he was introducing his guest. Right. Which is that he has no chance of winning and he is just going to guarantee that the liberals end up winning because his party only exists to take votes away from the conservatives.
Starting point is 01:27:04 So this caller brings that up and Alex is not happy. Hi Alex, thanks for taking my call. Just a quick comment before the question. In the analytics from the last election, there was approximately 20 seats that would have gone conservative, but the PCP party had a small amount of votes, which actually pushed the vote over to the Liberals. And I want to say I align with, you know, Max in the majority of what he says. And Alex, I probably align with 99 percent of what you say too.
Starting point is 01:27:41 But there's a bit of sophistication here, because I think Carney would be the worst thing possible for the country right now. I live on Vancouver Island and it's going blue. It's going conservative. And there's just about a sweep that's going to take place. My concern is, Max, I think your influence should penetrate all the parties of Canada. My concern is, the the to just sit there and then watch this go on. So I think that's... let's let Max respond to that. Yeah, you have a point there. I understand that concern, but don't blame me if Poliev is not a real conservative. I do love the caller bringing up a very reasonable point and something that's backed up by data, something that is a concern for him politically sure sophisticated approach to electoral politics sure, and he's asking this question of Maxim and
Starting point is 01:29:12 Alex jumps in starts responding for him runs out of steam and then is like oh wait the guy who got asked the question Maybe should he's he's this is kind of his thing this guy. I don't respect at all He maybe he should chime in yeah, that would make sense. Yeah I don't think it was that big of a deal I don't think they spoiled many of the elections this time around but the last election the People's party had a larger share of the votes. Yeah, so they like they had a bit of a boost larger share of the votes. So they had a bit of a boost during COVID stuff. Because the COVID lockdown protests and all that was fairly popular and they rode that wave. But now that
Starting point is 01:29:53 that's gone and over, the enthusiasm for their party is somewhat diminished. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's why why you gotta go full North Korea. We'll ruin every one of your elections until you do what we say conservatives. You'll never get in power again. We'll blow up this whole fucking party. I don't give a shit. Max might be in for that. That's what it, yeah. Or you could say something like it's not all about me. I guess I want the things to happen. Yeah, that sounds crazy though. So Alex, he's running out of time with his very special guest.
Starting point is 01:30:30 And so he's like, hey, can you stay a little bit longer? I need you to wait on the phone while I plug. That's amazing. You know, at the Fedoloval, we are your option because we want a country that would be, Ottawa, that would be decentralized. Radical decentralization will give more autonomy to your province but to every province also. And you know, I understand the separatist movement. I was in Alberta a couple of days ago. My advice to you would be vote for the
Starting point is 01:30:57 People's Party at the federal level and vote for an independentist party at the provincial level if you want Ottawa to take you seriously. You're an independentist party at the provincial level. If you want what I want to take you seriously. That's I know they are destroying. We're almost out of time, and I bet you're on a busy. Schedule If you
Starting point is 01:31:17 can't do it, it's fine. Can you do five more minutes to do a few other topics? Yeah Yeah. Yes. We're gonna break in two minutes. It's too much. We'll come right back for five minutes about 78 minutes total. Um I don't know. We get to Bryce and one because I got questions the as well, People's Party of Canada.ca. All right, back in two minutes, but listen, they have a final judgment. They tried all the other illegal stuff to shut us down. They're coming next week, as early as Wednesday, but probably take a few days, Thursday or Friday.
Starting point is 01:31:55 We need all the funds we need for the Alex Jones Network and what's been set up and what's going down and the legal battles, because they're going to come after me even more after that. So yeah, he's got a guy who's in theory a leading politician in Canada whose election is coming up days after this. And he cuts him off in the middle of explaining the electoral strategy that he, Maxim, is putting forth in order to ask him to stay longer. And then Alex spends a while plugging. It's a fascinating way the brain works.
Starting point is 01:32:30 I mean, it's definitely... It is one of, I think, his real skills. Not skill, but one of his real survival talents. One of the things that has truly taken him this far is an instinctive understanding of power dynamics Like the way he just exploits power dynamics is so so clinically psychopathic that it's it's like it's a gift like he's he's bullying this guy for no reason other than
Starting point is 01:33:03 Power dynamics. This is the guy I bully You know like it is it is insane. Well, you know like the real Trump Alex can't act like a dick to right but this guy wants to be Trump in Canada Totally and he doesn't have the juice. He doesn't have whatever it is that that I don't give a fuck and I might kill you Yeah energy that Trump has. And he comes off like a dork. And Alex knows that he can push him around a little bit, be an asshole to him, and I
Starting point is 01:33:33 think that probably makes him feel good. Yeah. Especially on a bad day like this. It does feel like the way to do it is because Alex is such a star fucker, just act like a star whether you are or not, and he'll probably go along with it. He's an idiot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Yeah, just wear shades. Yeah, absolutely. So they finished their interview, and Alex has been building up a bit, like there's gonna be a big announcement kind of thing at the end of the show. He's like, I'm gonna take some calls on a topic that I'm gonna announce after I get end of the show. Yeah. He's like, I'm going to take some calls on a topic that I'm going to
Starting point is 01:34:05 announce after I get back from the break. Gotcha. And so he comes back and he's got this big announcement. And you'll never believe. And then they were bragging to folks in Houston, you know, from our sources that were right there about their receiver and all the rest of it, how they're coming in here. And they were their receiver and all the rest of it now they're coming in here and they were saying again that it's going to be Bloomberg and the onion I mean how is that going to look after they went on national TV in November and said they
Starting point is 01:34:33 bought it and it was real it was a real auction and that was no better fuck money was my earning pledge to them idiots never before done in a court of bankruptcy or not real monetary instruments Bernie Madoff type stuff and Then trying to shut us down with the US trustee without a court order I mean all of those shenanigans of the Justice Department funding the lawsuits and the show trials and then they're gonna come in here Close it and then use the exact same graphics Which already did the onion and the same front and say they're me and they sent on the national news to misrepresent and confuse people so they can discredit our work, which
Starting point is 01:35:15 they're so scared of by making it a joke and pretending they're us with info wars dot com. So there's a few things I need to hit the lit news on the phones up and take the the shipping department. I think it's a very common order any product because I think by next Friday will be closed. And then it goes to shipping department up in. Denver and you'll get your products. They
Starting point is 01:35:53 ship stuff like a day after it comes in. But I think like today I need to go turn in fuller store off. Um because morally I'm not going to sit there and have people putting orders in and then and then potentially who knows? They even you know, because it's paid. It's done and it done by the the shipping people up in
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Starting point is 01:36:43 Let's move everything over. That feels more like a sincere expression of Alex. Yeah like Being like shits going down. Yeah him screaming and like I'm gonna hold down the fort forever and all that stuff is very it's very Performative and there's there's a lot of bluster behind it. But like it's just a regular business decision Yeah, yeah funnel traffic over to this because this I I'm not going to make any money off this anymore ever again. It's time to onboard you into our new process. It's a cynical expression of it's over.
Starting point is 01:37:14 And I think that I take that a little bit more sincerely than his more dramatic presence. Yeah. Yeah. This is about money, which I believe he is he is he actually cares about yes Yeah, yeah, so it may be the case that the info war store is dead You'll have to go to the Alex Jones Network comm a completely different place The info war store is dead long live at the Alex Jones store That's how intense and how f**king it and how real this is.
Starting point is 01:37:50 But. That's how urgent this is, but enough in for store. Now, the great X2 all stuffs in stock, you want it, it's there. You'll get it if you order it today. But. We may just put a note up there saying this is about to be seized. And if you want to still order there, you know, that's fine. But I
Starting point is 01:38:12 just want to be clear. The Alex Hill store dot com. Is not owned by me. It's on my great folks. Bigly that have all their other people and all their other shopping cards they do for the Hodge twins and everybody else will put in for store dotcom. Take that down, please.
Starting point is 01:38:25 And we'll put the also store.com up, please. And so, in fact, that's the last time you're gonna see him for store on the screen. Wow, that's almost like a ceremonial taking down of a flag. It's gonna fold up the ad for Infowarsstore.com. Wild. In a way that is uniform. You have to have the right angles and the corners.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Absolutely. There's a couple of Rs in there. You never know where they're going to wind up. So yeah, you got to make sure that those are facing each other whenever you fold it. There's some guns they can salute with in the studio. There's definitely whiskey. Somewhere there's whiskey. There'll be a toast.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Yeah. This is like sad. No. No. I mean, it's sad in a different way. Descriptively, it's sad. Descriptively, it is sad. I don't give a shit, but he seems real bummed out.
Starting point is 01:39:20 I think I would say it's sad in aer sense of like, the meaninglessness of all of this could not be more expressed than, you know what, I'm going to have to take the Infowars store down and put the Alex Jones store up. That is fucking Looney Tunes. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I do wonder though like- Wabbit season. Duckunes. Yeah, you know, yeah, I do wonder though like wabbit season duck season
Starting point is 01:39:46 I think I think though that like it might actually make a pretty sizable dent Sure I think that anytime you try to move people over from one thing to another You're gonna have a some amount of non retention totally and Alex I think probably relies on a lot of like people who have been around, you know? Yep. I don't know if he's going to be able to onboard everybody over to it. So I think that even though it is this stupid thing of like Infowars store is now Alex Jones
Starting point is 01:40:20 store, that might make a difference. It will. No, it just will, but that's not what I'm talking about, right? Right? So, you know Some people might think that Alex has Need for money sure and he does because he says that oh so much. Yeah, he needs a lot of money Yeah, but have you ever considered that maybe what he's doing is giving you an opportunity to give him money That's a good point of view on it And if you don't you're crazy and ungrateful of the opportunity that he's given that sounds true
Starting point is 01:40:55 I need your backing because the magnitude of what I can do to these people Is directly connected to the variable of how much you spread the word, how much you re-upload our clips, how much you pray for us, and that's critical, and how much you support us. It is not in the final equation you giving something up to go to the AlexHillsTour.com and get incredible supplements that will blow you away and work the best of anything out there. It is not you giving something up to get a Patriot t-shirt and see what it's like to come and get incredible supplements that'll blow you away and work the best of anything out there. It is not you giving something up to get a patriot t shirt and see what it's like to meet all his like minded people and find out just how popular liberty is. It is an opportunity for you to really be in the game and the fight
Starting point is 01:41:36 against the globalist in the funds we get from that. And like anything good, you also get the great benefit of the products. But people have it drilled into their head that everything's just entertainment and everything's this and that. Well, everybody's got their hand out. There's all this media and all this stuff. Well, what media has been dead on and told you the future what media is under massive attack by the bad guys.
Starting point is 01:41:58 I'm defending you because we've all got to defend each other together. So I'm going gonna do this regardless But you understand the missed opportunity for the vast majority of you that never take the step To actually go to the Alex show store calm and actually get the very best Methylene blue the very best Irish he boss the very best shows you the very best turmeric I mean, it's ridiculous what it does what a piece of shit Listen just we shall all hang together or hang separately if you don't buy Alex Jones rope That's what's gonna happen. It's just how it works. Yeah now that's
Starting point is 01:42:35 That's rough. Well, yeah, I love I love marketing Cuz it's all it is all that yeah, you know, it's just that whenever it's that you're like, wow, that's marketing, baby Yeah, what do they call that like fear of loss of game? Yeah. Yeah, you know like that that kind of tactic where like You can't you can't afford to not get this exactly. Yeah can't afford to not give us like man You've got to do something different It sucks. This is the worst So the feeling that I got listening to this episode there was a bit of like it does feel
Starting point is 01:43:11 in a way Alex seems at peace with the eventual and coming Yeah, like inevitable. Yeah and soon yeah lack of info wars being his anymore All right, let's take some calls Yeah, and soon. Yeah, lack of info wars being his anymore. All right, let's take some calls. Let me just say this. I'm going to elaborate in the next few days more on this. Infowars, the term info war is generic. It means information warfare.
Starting point is 01:43:36 The truth lies battling each other. And they hate the fact that nobody thought to get the URL of what this is all really called in 1997, I did. We paid like $10 for it. And then they can just take that away the information. Nobody thought to get the URL of what this is all really called in 1997. I did. We paid like $10 for it. And then they can just take that away and then have
Starting point is 01:43:53 the onion pose and act like me and put out this info that will consume it's going to be a joke. Going to blow up their face. And I've already seen people in the last year. They're trying to shut us down intensely saying, you know,
Starting point is 01:44:03 we're all to be the info. We're now. the info war. You're all in the info war now. You just put your tagline. Whatever our new website is on extra wherever, and you say I'm Spartacus. I'm the info war. This is all in for you're all the info war. There's a war on for your mind.
Starting point is 01:44:17 So if they think they're going to go out there and steal my identity as they've already tried, it's gonna be successful. It's gonna backfire. So it's simple. Just promote the new stuff we launch. The Alex Jones the the Alex Jones Network and other stuff and. But everybody
Starting point is 01:44:31 is the info. This is the info war. They think taking a studio or a name away. Does anything? No, it doesn't except show people how afraid the bad guys are of what we've done legitimately here and how we've politically destroyed them globally. They're falling apart, they're collapsing, they're on fire.
Starting point is 01:44:46 And then they go, we'll just go punish that guy because he was a big part of it. How did it work with Trump? How did it work with the mugshot and trying to kill him, it backfired because God's on our side. And if God's with us, nobody can stand against us. It's that simple.
Starting point is 01:45:00 So you're all the info war, that's the key. We are all the info war and the info war lives forever. And this great crew, love you. Love you too, buddy. So this like, I think that he's delusional. Like this idea that like info wars being taken from me isn't going to mean anything. I think that's, it's simultaneously true and so untrue. Like, in terms of his ability to run some kind of bullshit, nonsense, outrage bait, clickbait kind of content that sells supplements, his ability to do that is going to be unchanged regardless of the name. But it is a giant loss to his ego. Yeah, it is
Starting point is 01:45:45 It's something he'll never really live down is that like you built this whole thing and now you don't own it anymore Yeah, that's tough. And I think that that's why yeah, whatever is done with it, you know I think it's important to not Fall into a trap of what Alex is saying. You know, he's saying that someone's gonna buy it up and then they're going to distort and misrepresent me and hide my content or whatever. Sure. I have a strong belief that Alex looks worse with context. And if anybody owns his shit, they should put as much of it
Starting point is 01:46:26 out as possible sure in as long form and full context as possible yeah because he's damned by context he's saved by editing and selective presentation of shit yeah so I think that if anybody does end up owning it it should just all like release every single old backlog thing that he doesn't put out. All those episodes where he pretends to predict things. Put them all out in their full context. And let the light of examination shine on it. Show even more than what Alex shows.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Like he holds back shit. I Mean, I'm I'm imagining well, maybe Dan people have accused me of being a very cynical man sure bordering on pessimistic mm-hmm, but I Would imagine that Roger Stone and his crew are gonna wind up getting it. I have no idea You know like the the onion would be stupid to buy it They've they've already got what they you know, they got the announcement they got people to subscribe that we're going to subscribe They don't want to actually spend money on it'd be a waste
Starting point is 01:47:37 I don't I don't know I I don't know what anyone's decision process is like But I would give Roger the same advice. It would work against his interests, but I would give him the same advice. Release all of those old episodes that Alex doesn't put out. Right, right. I'm just, you know, it's still going to be his. I don't know. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:47:58 We will see. We will see. So Alex has taken calls, and it's really a bummer fest because his his big announcement is I think I'm gonna close the info war store There is that and that's what he wants to take calls on what a shit way to end the show. Hmm Thankfully, he gets a call from a guy who starts out Sounding real smart and real like a Alex You did good sure you did good and then he veers into crazy town. Sounds good. Big corona in Ohio. You're on here. Hey Alex, how you doing sir? Man, I'm alive in the world's wild.
Starting point is 01:48:41 First time talking with you. It's been a long time. I've going to talk to you. First time talking with you. It's been a long time. I've listened to you. Since like scanner Darkly movie. Um. Or a few words of encouragement. Okay Everything you just said. You're answering your own
Starting point is 01:49:04 question. Okay You're doing everything correctly. You're thinking correctly. I'm a highly intelligent person just like yourself and I analyze the logic, math, direction, probability, everything that goes into making that decision on what to do. And I just wanted to say as a listener in the background that respects you highly and your entire crew. Thank you. You're doing things right, sir.
Starting point is 01:49:31 No doubt my mind problem is we're fighting evil. The purest, darkest, most discussing people in the world and I'm under attack too Just for supportin info wars in my own personal world. I'm under attack careful Just for supporting Trump. I'm under attack just like yourself and everybody else who supports feel like ex-wife is coming in here Right because we won't surrender to Satan
Starting point is 01:50:08 now Because we know it's certain death if we do and you may gain wealth pain Prosperity you know by going in that direction And falling to those temptations let me tell you I have sex operatives that. I mean, I mean, I mean, They watch us. You know, I see it on my ex account. And if you need to know it, it's at big corona one. All ran together.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Okay? I try to... Oh, brother, I got a job. I appreciate you and God bless you. I just want to get to everybody. Thank you. Hey, shit's getting weird. Ooh, you got a lot of divorce energy coming at me real hard here.
Starting point is 01:51:03 I really liked it when you were consoling me and telling me about how you like stats and numbers and logic and all that stuff But then smart once you started getting weird and saying you're hounded by sex operatives There's a lot of honey pots coming from Denver. Okay. Okay. You're in, Ohio Is this good news for us or bad news for us? Hey there go ahead There's a lot of us is now by first. This is my first time. What does that mean? There's a lot of sex operatives Tell me about what that means to you and for what reason is anyone trying to? sex operate right Like what what is happening? He supports Trump sure and likes Alex. I'm fire for sex operative. No
Starting point is 01:51:48 Are no all over the place. What does that mean? They're trying to come like they're trying to create some kind of a honeypot situation right where he has Leverage against him sure stop spending $20 a month at the info war store, right? What could he possibly have interpreted as a sex operative? Situation like what happened someone was nice to him. Yeah, like the idea of not asking more questions about sex operatives Obviously Alex is like well, we got to move on. My next question is, let's go. Tell me about this sex operative. What was this person like?
Starting point is 01:52:28 Well, but see, I think this is where Alex's instincts are better than yours for the job at hand. Right. Because you ask follow up questions and this is going to get real... Oh, it's going to get real messy. Yeah, fast. I'm very excited. He, on his own, took us in quite a direction.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Oh, absolutely. And Alex is still kind of, I mean, he still has the scent on him of the guy who took pictures of young women in a parking lot the day before, telling that story. So he's a sex operative in a way. That's not the call you want when, And you're just trying to feel better about the fact that maybe your business is going under. That just can't be that such the worst non sequitur to then have that drives me insane. Like you know that I have so many questions about that. So many of them. I want all of the information here. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:53:26 This is where you and I are different. What was the first sex operative like? That's another question I want to have. Were they similar? Do they have a style? Is there a certain kind of... There must be a pattern. I mean he's indicating that there's some sort of like things he can tell. Absolutely. Are you just talking about women? Anyone that
Starting point is 01:53:42 says hello? Like what's going on here? Anyone who's not wearing a MAGA hat. Absolutely. Yeah. Sex operative. See this is where you and me are different in terms of curiosity. Like if Alex mentions like some old document or something like that. Sure. I'm curious. I want to hear. I want to know what he's talking about. Don't give a shit. No uh-uh. This guy talks about sex operatives in... Tell me more. Ah I'm so hungry. Meanwhile I'm gonna pass. I don't want to get I don't want to get in this guy's business so, um, we come to the end of this and things don't look great in Alex world and We I mean, we'll see how the next
Starting point is 01:54:19 Stretch of time plays out for him. It could be could be quite bad Ah, you know the thing that's so stupid about it, the thing that I hate so much about it, is that he's absolutely going to feel better once it's gone. Because it just won't be there anymore. You know? Like, it won't be there. Yeah, and he can pretend to go on the attack. You know, like, this is so much defense for him that it'll be a very big relief just from a narrative standpoint if he just shakes it off his back. Totally. No, you're right.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Like, the reason that this is horrible is because it is a huge blow to his ego. And that's why he can't let go of it. That's why he's holding on so tightly. He doesn't understand that he is the source of his own misery in this regard and he just if he just lets it go all the sudden this weight will be gone and he'll be able to move forward lighter. Yeah like Roger Stone if there's one lesson from him it's like always attack never play defense. Yep. And Alex you know he's not able to do that as well and he could free himself up to do a little bit more of it.
Starting point is 01:55:25 Or at least pretend to. But yeah, I think we could be entering interesting territory, or we might be having this exact same conversation in a year. Trapped again. Who knows? I did love that subtle reminder of November was when that... Oh yeah, baby. Time flies.
Starting point is 01:55:44 That was a long time ago. Yep. So we'll be back with another episode but until then, we have a website. Indeed we do, it's knowledgeride.com. Yep, we'll be back but until then, I'm Leo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am the Mysterious Professor. Woo yeah woo yeah woo! And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a

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