Knowledge Fight - #105: March 18, 2014

Episode Date: November 22, 2017

Today, Dan and Jordan fulfill the request of one of their Globalist Policy Wonk donors, the great Keegan, and travel back in time to 2014. The hunt was on for an episode where Alex was drunk at work, so the search began at St. Patricks Day. We don't really think Alex was drunk on March 18th, but the utter nonsense coming out of his mouth would make more sense if he was. Also, Alex insults a Make-A-Wish kid.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. I am T-shirt Dan today. What's going on?

That was a very aggressive way to start. I very rarely have done this show without a button-up shirt on. That's a little spoiler. I have no, I had one. I had no idea you were ever wearing a button-up shirt. Well, that's because I had my hoodie over it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.

What are you talking about? You've rarely ever done this show without a hoodie. That's true, but it's nice and okay in my room. It's kind of warm because I've put up plastic over the windows. You have done a good job. Yes, and this is a podcast where we talk about home insulation and Alex Jones. Hey, my heating bills were insane last year.

So I applaud you and your solution-based home improvements. I appreciate it. It does come into some trouble, though. There's some trouble sometimes. This morning here at Knowledge Fight Headquarters, I got into a fight with my cat, Celine. I mean, Celine got into a fight this morning. It was terrible. She clawed through by the-

Oh, she clawed through the plastic? Yep, I freaked out at her. I might have called her the C-word. I threw a pen at her. A cat? You called her cat? Yeah, exactly. The worst insult you can give to a cat. It's one of those things that's like,

I don't want to, it's such a hassle to put this plastic up. I don't want to do it again. You're such an asshole, cat. What? And I'm bad right when I wake up. No, that's not the time to discover- Sling a pen at the cat. It's not the time to discover that like, if your washing machine is not working properly

and you wake up and it's that time of the morning and you're just like, I will burn this whole fucking place to the ground. Everything has got to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we're all, everybody's dead. This is a disaster. Yeah, so Jordan, today we're going to be talking

about Alex Jones as we do all the time. We do that all the time. Is there a twist to that? Is there a personal connection that we might have to this? Yes, I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about Alex Jones. That's our connection. Today we are going to be doing a special episode

for one of our globalists. Ah! One of our globalist wonks, Keegan out there. Keegan, thank you so much for saving us from the present. And this is in honor of him. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sotomayor sent me a bucket of poop.

Daddy shark. Thank you so much for being a globalist. If you'd like to donate to the show in any way, become a policy wonk or a globalist. You can go to our website, knowledgefight.com, click support the show. Okay. And we would appreciate it.

Legit to all the policy wonks out there. I don't care if you just add an extra penny for like four months. For real. Just allow us to hear that sound bite again. I'm holding that hostage. It only comes out for globalists. But anyway, today he I'm about to donate to this fucking show. Keegan requested that we go back.

He was interested in hearing some drunk Alex. Yes. And so the theory was that if we go back to St. Patrick's day of any year, we would be able to find drunk Alex. That's a reasonable theory. It is. Even though he's Welsh, not Irish, according to him, but he still loves the taste of booze.

Right. Um, I went back and I started to listen to them at the St. Patrick's days. Episodes aren't very great. How about a Cinco de Mayo? See, that would be interesting. I bet he gets drunk on Cinco de Mayo. Let's just, let's cancel the show.

Okay. Let's just go through what holidays you think Alex Jones would be drunk on. Harbour day. That's the day that he traditionally fights a tree. Any of them. He's drunk on them. Um, but I also started to think I was like, you know what? St. Patrick's day is probably not when he's going to be drunk.

That's noon. Right. He's broadcasting at 11 to three. I bet if we go back. What is he? What is he a denizen of Chicago? What is going to be drunk at noon? Right.

If we go back and we look at St. Patrick's day, the day after, I think we have much better likelihood of hungover. Exactly. Or which is usually esoteric Alex, which makes for great, great listening and sometimes still drunk Alex. There's a, there's a chance of that. A delightful 12 a.m. still drunk Alex or 12 p.m. still drunk Alex. So I went back to, uh, 2014 and what we have here is the March 18th episode

from 2014 and I do believe he's hungover. Uh, I think based on some of the rambles he gets down and gets into. I like it. I think there's a real good chance we're witnessing, uh, uh, a hungover man. Also, there is that esoteria as we were, uh, discussing wonderful. Uh, and then just also just fucked up stuff. Does he do an Irish accent? He doesn't.

Oh, almost no recognition that. Uh, St. Patrick's Day had come or went, uh, these fucking potato famine pieces of shit coming over into our country. The potato family was a globalist block. That's the first immigrants. That's the reason that we have these Muslims to begin with. We should never have let him in. You know, who's fault the troubles were globalists, the troubles, the troubles.

Uh, so, uh, let's start off how Alex starts off a little weird, a little weird. And he's mad at a specific athlete. On the GCN radio network, just a slight reminder that Alex Jones, uh, throughout his entire career has been broadcast by the GCN Genesis communications radio network owned by Ted Anderson, owner also of Midas resources, gold sales, just a reminder that may, uh, become more and more relevant in the future, never come up again. I'm sure there's no reason that you left that in there.

I just like to remind people as everybody knows, Dan does not leave things into these clips for any reason. He definitely has no purpose behind it. Nope. And now live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones, it's your responsibility to sign up at healthcare.gov and beat out of mind and then have the IRS garnish your wages and double and triple your prices. And it's trendy.

LeBron James is supporting it along with much of other Hollywood stars like Leonardo DiCaprio. So you've got to get behind you, ladies and gentlemen, I've actually been monitoring mainstream dinosaur media and I just see ads on every channel basically, uh, with different sports figures and rock and roll people and movie stars promoting obozo care. And so I'm going to be talking about that today. I saw that we've got it right now in a second.

He wins one point. He gets one point for the show known as baby Bron Bron because he, uh, he likes to cry constantly when he loses him and boner on a, him and Boehner on a hangout together and cry together constantly. The point is that he's out there saying, Hey, get signed up. You know, it's your responsibility and they've got all these things with these bossy mother types are telling their kids, you've got to get signed up.

So now it's a bullying enslavement and it's no longer free. In fact, it costs a lot more and it doesn't cover preexisting conditions. It's a giant screw job, but it doesn't matter if you're with the crew. If you're really the only thing it really does, you sign up for it. And here's LeBron James who literally literally literally is a delusional person that thinks he's God because he can put a ball in a basket better than anybody else's ever been lecturing everyone how they need to go sign up for the giant screw job that is Obamacare spread the word and get covered today.

You never know when you might take a hit. That was the clip. That's it. That's all he played LeBron James who thinks he's God because of that clip. That's our evidence. And let me be clear. He plays it like three more times. That's all he has.

That's it. Okay. There's no, there's no further advocation from LeBron James. There's no like, here's the reasons that you should sign up. It's just him holding a basketball saying you should go get signed up. Is he mad at MJ and Larry Bird for doing a McDonald's commercial? That was way long. He was mad at Spike Lee.

Who isn't? But this clip isn't done. I thought 25th hour was pretty great. Girl 6 is amazing. Very good. This clip isn't done immediately after the playing of the LeBron James clip. Here's where his head goes. And I didn't edit this.

This is immediately after. Okay. Like when you go there and get your vaccine for your baby and it has a convulsion and never talks. Hey, you're 18 months old, running around talking, having a great time. Say an ABC. Go get covered with shots. Your kid ain't ever going to talk again.

And they're going to die of brain cancer at age 10. How's that sound? Get covered by the New World Order. Get murdered right now. Go get an abortion right now. Kill all the black babies right now. Get covered in blood from the New World Order. That would be a weird thing for Obama to say.

This message brought to you by Satan. That would be a more honest piece there. Yeah. Yeah. If you watch the video, his hair is flailing all over the place. He's screaming. He's in real performance mode, which is one of the reasons I think he's hung over. Cause that's sort of, it's so much, it's so much easier to not feel stuff when

you're had an energy drink to just kind of counteract it. Cocaine, something like that. He's screaming and like all this. It's like, come on, man. Probably a little hair of the dog on top of it. Why wouldn't you? Right? If you want to talk about Obamacare and the shortcomings thereof or the benefits found

therein, I don't feel like you need to jump all the way to be covered in blood by Satan because of abortions and killing black people, vaccines. I'm not sure. I feel like it's muddying the waters of the debate. A little? If you describe it reasonably, a lot of people would say it doesn't go far enough. So you can't describe it reasonably. You can't be like, okay, well, yes, it does cover preexisting conditions.

It does. Well, yes, it does expand the number of people who will get health insurance, which then, of course, will lower health insurance costs for everyone. Right. Because there's a larger pool of people paying in. Cause ultimately, health insurance is a socialist idea. Yeah. So I'm sure that what he's really trying to say is that we need a more aggressive approach

to it. Only adding an extra 30 million while still leaving 23 million people uninsured is seen as a success. Perhaps what we should do is really implement universal health care or bathe ourselves in children's blood. I think one of those options is good. So after this clip, he loses the thread a little bit. Of course.

As if he has. Wait, what was the thread to begin with? LeBron James sucks. LeBron James wants to eat your blood. Basically. Yeah. He loses the thread here and this is like, you're in no shape to be on the radio. I think I'm going to record a real health care dot gov commercial saying get covered.

I don't think he does. And I'm just going to list everything. Get covered in death panels, get covered in euthanasia, get covered in tripled pricing, get covered in total surveillance in your health care records, being public, get covered today or your racist, your racist or Lord and Savior, Barack Obama. Very bad. Jamie Foxx looks like he's having an orgasm. He goes, Barack Obama.

That is a good Jamie Foxx. It's like whenever Judge Smales and Caddyshack, written by the great author of Gus Buschers as well, who just passed, whenever he pulls Billy out, the special putter and he makes the putt, that's all these Obama idiots look like constantly when they when they have reflected the glory of their president and they're in charge and they're the bosses and they're part of the winning team now, we'll get back to this Judge Smales impression that he's about to do. He's about to do a Judge Smales impression.

Kind of long one. Nails it? No. Okay. But that, that just right there. I wanted to take a second and reflect on like, this is 2014 flash forward two and a half years. The idea of the reflected pride you have about your candidate and being on the winning team.

I don't understand. Doesn't look great in hindsight. You're so mad at these Obama fans. He's going on air saying he would die for Trump and Trump is the only person who can save the world. Don't remember that. Right. No, you're chomps getting taken for a long bad ride.

Never heard that before. Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, and then when he makes the putt he goes, Billy, Billy, Billy. Fake laugh. Can we find that on YouTube? Maybe on Judge Smales and Billy, Judge Smales and his putter. I bet it's the name of it. I love to channel Judge Smales. What about you?

Either that or fake cum. It could be. That could also be the, that could also be the case. Did you miss the end there? I love to channel Judge Smales. How about you? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know what to say to that. I don't know what I got for that. The guy in the booth has got to be like, I don't know what the fuck's going on. This show has started weird. See, the problem there is, I like to channel Judge Smales. I don't. Is he still alive? I don't have no idea about Judge Smales.

Is he not fictional? We've spoken about him before. He's the character from Caddyshack. Yes. Alex references him a bit weirdly in very different contexts. They look similar or at least Alex will look like him eventually. It's possible. I honestly don't know what Judge Smales looked like.

I have no idea. I don't remember. Imagine a decrepit Alex Jones. Maybe like I watched Caddyshack when I was like six and I don't think I've watched it since maybe I should go back. A lot of people like it a lot. I don't have time. It's pretty good.

I don't have time. What do you mean you don't have time? I'm listening to so much. All right. Super Mario Odyssey time. Yeah. But that's why I'm listening to Alex to cut the clips. Okay.

I'm sitting there trying to catch moons and what have you, but right, you know, I'm got my ears open. Okay. I'm listening to this bullshit. All right. Ears open. Heart open. Can't lose.

Can't lose. So Alex believes more or less that, you know, Obamacare, he's in his Cloward and Piven mindset, which as we've discussed in the past, you know, people don't remember. Cloward and Piven. He's dumb. Well, it was two university professors who had an idea and that was a system where everyone is reminded constantly of all the social welfare programs that are available to them already.

There's millions and billions of dollars of things, food stamps, assistance, housing credits, all that stuff that's available to people that they don't take and would help people if they knew they were available. Right. So Cloward and Piven is an idea that these people had that you tell everyone what is available to them. They get all of the things that they are entitled to under these government programs. And in effect, that would crash the system because it's not set up for people to take

advantage of it. Right. Or people to get what they want. Which is why in the nineties, they did have a guy wearing a green suit with cash all over it. Cloward and Piven. You own, you get money from the government. Yeah.

Their thought experiment, their idea was not so much an actual intention to crash the system as much as it was a way to get people to understand and realize that there are so many people who need help that aren't being helped. Right. Alex believes that Obamacare is a piece of this and it's trying to crash healthcare in order to bring in socialism in many ways he misunderstands what single payer or any kind of universal healthcare is. And in this next clip.

Now he is of course correct that Obamacare's cost will triple mainly because once we have a Republican president, one of the issues with the legislation is that the executive branch has control over what subsidies can and cannot be put together there. And we're seeing that now. Exactly. And furthermore, if you don't advertise Obamacare, like perhaps if you cut the budget for advertising all of this stuff, people won't take advantage of it. And when there are fewer people in an insurance market, the cost for the people who remain

in the insurance market go up. That is, in a nutshell, a self-fulfilling prophecy that Alex Jones himself has helped bring about. So if you are in the Obamacare market right now, blame Alex fucking jokes. And his ilk. It is. It is what happens whenever you just take the rug out from under the idea. Well in the same way that, and Bernie put this, Bernie Sanders, America's most popular

politician currently, put this perfectly in regards to the GOP tax plan that they're putting out, which they are going to destroy revenues for the government. Then later on, when revenues for the government are so low, they're going to say, well, look at how high the deficit is, we're going to need to cut spending on this. What are they going to cut spending on Medicare and Medicaid? Ultimately, the GOP tax plan is an attack on Obamacare, it's an attack on healthcare, it's an attack on literally every program that helps people. What is it not an attack on, Dan?

The rich. The rich. I agree. Yeah. So in his next clip though, Alex is talking about this sort of nightmare socialism that will descend upon us. Yes. I want you to try and think about whether this is literally any worse than the reality

in front of us. Okay. And then they sit there and go, well, our master plan is to actually wreck healthcare and bring in true socialism. They're not going to bring you true socialism morons. True socialism never exists and never will. The elites convince you to give over your hard-earned work product and that they're going to redistribute it to you and then you're so poor, surviving off the little dribble

they give you back that you end up believing that you're living in a good world when you're actually domesticated animal in a cage being fed. So I'd like to compare that to the gig economy that we have right now. I'm confused. What are you talking about? Is he describing that as socialism? Yeah. His conception is that you give all your money to the government and they give it back to

you in small kernels or something like that. I mean, wouldn't you describe that more as unchecked capitalism? Kind of. And that's what I wanted to get to. You know, like the reality that we live in now where companies are able to abuse people and pay them an X to nothing and very weird Byzantine scams that they run, I think that that's probably worse than whatever nightmare scenario he's depicting. Even his worst case scenario isn't, it's on par with right now.

Yeah. At bad. Yeah. At worst. I kind of think that it's maybe better than what we have right now. I would take that change. Yeah. Exactly.

Even to your worst case scenario, Alex, I would be fine with that based on the kind of bullshit that we have. Like I have a bunch of friends who drive for like Uber and Lyft and the crazy ways that the companies just take, take from them. Well, yeah. Classifying workers as like independent contractors, instead of employees, all of the problems that Alex seems to, or the complaints. And it seems insane to me because, because they do that, they make more money and our

taxes, which the Uber and Lyft drivers pay, go towards subsidizing the healthcare that they have to also pay for. Right. Like it's insane. Subsidizing the, the companies who are keeping us from getting healthcare. Right. And we'll get back to that in a minute. Cause when he, when he, he has some fun lies about Obamacare specifics and that kind of

comes into it. All of his complaints really trace back to just like, this is not Obamacare. This is businesses deciding things. Yeah. This is, this is business. Which is one of the issues with Obamacare. Right. So anyway, let's get to one of them cause he has, he has a couple lies in this next

clip about Obamacare or let's just call it the affordable care act. Let's not play games. Yeah. Healthcare was about $100 a month for somebody under 30 before Obamacare passed. Depends. It's $200, $300. And it's projected to be $600 for the average person below 30 or so within two years. So you do have 600 every month, one way or another.

Cause if you don't go get the healthcare and pay it, the IRS is going to say, well you waived all your rights and came and signed up at Obamacare at healthcare.gov and the 17,000 agents they hired three years ago are going to go suck the money out of your account. And we pointed to that was going out and happening in the legislation people said, that's a conspiracy theory. It was. There's no plan for the IRS to take your wages or bank account or garnishment. Well then last month they put on the IRS website, irs.gov, really a private collection agency

of the private fellow reserve. But regardless of government powers, what they came out, excuse me, huh? And they said, oh yeah, we're going to start jerking the money out of your account and then we'll have penalties and interest on it. You know, if you haven't paid it when we jerk your account, so it's not going to be $5,000 a year. It's going to be 10, 15, 20,000. We might wait three, four years, let the penalties and interest build up before we snatch your

bank account. Then we'll do settlement deals with you getting out a sweet thing for the poor. No. I mean, that's, that's ludicrous nonsense that is, that is complete absolute bullshit. Like I feel sad for the people who believe these sorts of things that you hear. I mean, if you look into it for the year 2017, so this is three years after Alex is spouting this bullshit. Yeah.

Like this year, the penalty for not having Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act, not having any insurance is 2.5% of your total household adjusted gross income or $695 per adult and $347.50 per child up to a maximum of $2,085. That is the maximum fine. There's literally no way that it would be 5,000, 10,000, 20,000. It's absurd. Yeah. I don't have health insurance.

I can't afford it. Right. Yeah. But so you got to pay 2.5% of your income if you file taxes. Very little. Interesting. Also, well, the truth is they have reduced the size of the IRS to the point where, and this should not be publicized, but they just don't have enough people to actually audit

you. And it's not, it's not an actionable thing under what Trump has laid out in terms of their priorities. Exactly. If you just don't check the box about your insurance, they don't look into it. No. They don't come after you or anything like that. Why would they?

They can't afford it. I think that there's exemptions built into the Affordable Care Act about if it would be crippling to you, you don't have to pay the penalty if the most affordable coverage that is available in your area costs more than 8.13% of your household income. Right. So that's one thing. Or if you're uninsured for less than three consecutive months of that year, or if you're exempt from filing a tax return because your income is too low, or your religion objects

to the use of insurance. That's even a fucking thing you could, you could claim. So Christian scientists don't have to, wow. They're exempt from the penalty from, I think we might be given too much credit to religious people. Sure. But you understand why they'd pitch a fit if they weren't. You know, I'm starting to think maybe churches should pay taxes.

I'm starting to think maybe religion is a lie. Anyways. I'm interested in that. Also, you're exempt from this penalty if you qualify for a hardship exemption due to things like homelessness, bankruptcy, eviction, or any other of a list of trying circumstances which involve poverty. If you are making under like a point where it would be devastating for you to have to pay a fine for not joining the insurance market, you are exempt from that fine.

The only people it makes a difference to are people who can afford it. Really should be in there. Really should be in there. Exactly. So fuck off with this nonsense. What kind of fucking poor person is going to be charged $20,000? He's playing games. And this is for people like him.

The people who listen to his fucking show are the people who almost certainly would benefit. The people in red states are already subsidized more by wealthier blue states. Totally. Because they are tricked by these con men. And they are voting again against their own interests the same way they have done since all the time. It's a sad, sad shell game that's being played.

And the victims are the people they purport to be speaking in favor of. That is the system that Alex is upholding through his bizarre, stupid patriotism that will deconstruct in great detail a little later in this episode. Oh boy. So he's mad that, in his mind, Obama is a criminal, he's trying to pull off this criminal scam. Right. And these globalists are pulling off massive scams all over the world.

The most horrifying criminal scam of preventative medicine. Limited to, or including, but not limited to insurance and the rapture. These are some of the globalist scams. Huge issue. But he's like, you know what, they don't get in trouble. They don't get punished. But who does? Who does get punished, Dan?

Well, Alex is going to talk about one of these games. I bet it's not bankers. Nope. Kevin Trudeau, who I met twice, because I wanted to see who he really was. He was a con artist, undoubtedly. And he's been sentenced to 10 years in prison last night. He was. Not so much for his infomercials, but for refusing to change claims and violating corridors.

And I met him and he was undoubtedly full of prunes, as Dan rather would say. I went to dinner with him once and I said, did you really go to Area 51 and see space aliens? We didn't. He looked at me point blank and said, yes, I didn't see the space aliens. And I said, I think we're done with dinner. And no, I'm not going to interview you anymore than I read him twice. He said.

And I said, I, you know, I support the First Amendment, but I do not support what you're doing with it. So that means I'm not going to support you. What does that mean? I don't know. Christmas cards and things like that, you know, thereafter, I'm not throwing him under the bus. The point is, you just said he's a con man.

How is he going to prison for fat diets that I looked at? And quite frankly, if you actually followed it, I think you would lose weight. You know, he said natural cures. They don't want you to know about. I don't know if they're cures, but certainly it's been proven that mass dosages of vitamin C, Linus Pauling won the Pulitzer, the Pulitzer, the Nobel Prize for it twice, but one of them was for that. That's finding it can really reduce cancer.

I mean, you need to go to prison for 10 years for that. See they can go put him in jail and make themselves look good. Like in Scarface, where he says, you need me to be the bad man so you can point your finger and go, there's the bad man. When the truth is, it's the banks and the system that have been running it all for thousands of years and you guys are the real criminals, but you need me to point your finger at and say, there's the bad man. And that is exactly what's going on here.

Martin Stewart did nothing and they put her in prison. That's not true. Kevin Trudeau. That's not true. Because I didn't really know who Kevin Trudeau was. I'd seen his infomercials and thought they were pretty reasonable about, you know, John's warts good for depression. I've seen the mainline studies on that.

Of course you did. Vitamin C is good for not getting cancer. Everybody knows that. Do they? But then I discovered over the years, after I had him on a couple of times, people sent me all the info. You know, in this book, he says he met with aliens, went and looked at it, really said that.

Did you know over here, you know, he mails out these letters saying, join this group and we'll send you a bunch of tips on how to join the Illuminati. Sure enough, I was like, whoa, this is incredible. But my point is, Kevin Trudeau compared to Obama and the globalist. So the globalists in Obama aren't as bad as Kevin Trudeau. No. Just to deal with that thing you were talking about at the end there, Kevin Trudeau had a website called meetilluminatimembers.com where you could join up for $1,000 and he

would introduce you to people in the Illuminati. That's a fantastic scam. Then you would have to give payments of $150 a month, I believe it was monthly, in order to keep up your access and be an Illuminati member. I'm torn between wanting to protect stupid people and wanting stupid people to get their comeuppance. That's just, I mean, that's a great use of nonsense, you know, if you know that something is not true, if you see through the bullshit and you want to fleece people, use it.

It's the same thing that Alex does with making people afraid of the globalists. Or the prosperity gospel, guys. Exactly. It's very similar. But Kevin Trudeau was a bit worse in many ways. So he has all kinds of weird bullshit things that he advocated for. He wrote a bunch of books that were like things that they don't want you to know, like food secrets they don't want you to know.

And he made a number of really, really- Vitamin C for dummies. I mean, vitamin C is only one of the things. He also, I mean, there's so much. He said that like the sun- He loves the graduation stuff. The sun doesn't cause skin cancer, but what does is sunscreen. So you should-

That makes perfect sense. Someone who's gotten drunk on flow trips, I will tell you, don't not put on sunscreen. It really will hurt you. It'll fuck you up. I got sun poisoning once, which is a super extreme sunburn. That's not good. It was one of the worst couple days of my life. I believe it.

Like days of not being able to move and just like biting a pillow because there was so much pain. It was terrible. But he also encourages something called sun gazing. You invited me out on a flow trip. You son of a bitch. Put on sunscreen, you'll be fine. You son of a bitch.

You're on a sun poison me. The problem was I got too drunk too early. This is a Roger Stone and polonium all over again, dad. I got too drunk too early and people are like, you should put on sunscreen. I'll do what I want. That sort of thing. Yeah. You get to the more, the more biographical details I get of you as a, as a younger man,

20s were rough. Fantastic. So he has a bunch, a number of the things that he advocated for are just like folk remedies and stuff like that. Right. That he's repackaging. And those are like, eh, whatever. Chinese medicine and the like.

He also has a bunch of stuff about like there's a substance called coral calcium that he advocated that was like, uh, this will save your life. It's a miracle cure. Do they get it right next to deep earth iodine when they dig? Basically. Yep. Yep. Yep.

Okay. Uh, he advocated for raw milk, uh, which, uh, that's very bad. Yeah. There's a lot of, a lot of people. How could you advocate for raw milk? Uh, he's, he's dumb. Uh, he also says that acid reflux is a myth, uh, and you can deal with it by drinking cider vinegar all the time.

And he has a whole bunch of claims that he's made over the years and a lot of them is this close to becoming L Ron Hubbard. Yeah. He was so close. His medical claims, all of these things are just not proven and they, they have no backing in, in science. And so over the years, the, uh, the, the SEC and the FTC, uh, kept suing him. Right.

Because he's making dangerous claims in infomercials. Yeah. He's hurting people. Right. Cause they got a lot of complaints about him and there's other complaints we'll forget in a minute. Yeah. He kept like flouting court orders, uh, that told him to stop selling this stuff.

Right. And I mean, to be clear, he had a multi-level marketing scheme going with selling these products to people and have them sell to their friends and stuff like that. So over and over again, that's, Hey, there was Avon for pure milk or info wars team. Yeah. Uh, so he keeps being told and ensued in these lawsuits saying that like, okay, you can keep writing your books and selling them cause that's free speech.

We can't suppress that, but you are banned from making infomercials or selling your products and he wouldn't listen to them. He just kept selling shit. And so he ended up getting sued or I believe the damages that they, they affected on him was a 37.6 million dollars he had to pay in restitution for you consistently defrauding people. Yeah. And, uh, he wouldn't pay it.

So he went to prison for 10 years because he kept, uh, flouting court orders and being in contempt of court. That's such a weird dichotomy of like, okay, you can publish books, but you can't go on TV. Well, it's the same thing that happened with Irwin Schiff, Peter Schiff's dad. They stopped him from writing a book that says don't pay taxes, but because stop him from not paying taxes. Well, certainly you can put in the prison for that.

You can stop him from like profiting off the book in some way. But be that as it may, uh, Trudeau is a guy with a history of just like real fucked up crimes and scams. He's a classic snake oil salesman. He's the music man. He's a, he's the monorail man. In 1990, Kevin Trudeau posed as a doctor in order to deposit $80,000 in false checks. And in 1991, he pleaded guilty to larceny that same year, Trudeau faced federal charges

of credit card fraud after he stole the names and social security numbers of 11 customers of a mega memory product that he was selling and charged $122,735.68 on their credit cards. He spent two years in federal prison because of the conviction. I gotta say, I'm kind of starting to like this guy. He's got balls later in an interview. He explained his crimes as quote youthful indiscretions. Now here's the problem with catch me if you can pick to the wrong guy. If Leo was playing Kevin Trudeau, I think we would all be on his team.

He said, it wasn't as bad as everyone thinks and he said, give me a break. This guy's an asshole. I gotta say, I'm just, I'm starting to like the bald face lies. So in response, I like a man with way too much confidence. So you got to give him to that part of his, his crime was that he posed as a doctor and I don't know why that should be illegal or anything like that. Cause that's fraud. As for why the bank thought he was a doctor, that was a simple misunderstanding because

he jokingly referred to himself as a doctor in memory. All right. That's on the bank. That's on them. That's their bad. I'm going to, I'm going to call it in one regard. I don't think true Trudeau is the bad guy here. He also tried to get a, like a national pool league going, the international pool tour.

Because he was just, you know, such a con man. He didn't end up paying the people on the tour and they completely fell apart. I bet for a while there, I was, I was actually aware of and plugged into some of the professional pool playing community. And I bet I know some people who were defrauded by him. Interestingly, like, like the black widow, I bet she got, she got taken in by that. So it was called the international pool tour and because of the disaster of it and because of like the, the stink that that put on like pool as a national sport, it could have been

like bowling to a certain extent or a poker caught on real hot. It was pool was on ESPN for a good long while. So he didn't end up paying people except like, you know, minor parts of what they were owed. And the, the Reno fiasco as it's called marked the demise, not only of the international poker tour, but I'm sorry, a international pool tour, but of professional pool competitions as a whole. As one commentator put it, quote, the pool hustler wasn't murdered by any single suspect, but the last man holding the knife was Kevin Trudeau.

You know what's so weird about that? He could have been president of America. Yeah, he's going to get out of prison eventually. Yeah. I mean, it fucking, what did he do that's literally any different from what Trump did? Nothing. Nothing. He was just worse at it.

He was less insular. I think it's cause he probably started as a poorer person. Probably. If he had started rich, he would be the president by now. Yeah. He probably had access to like, or didn't, he made some bad choices with lawyers. I bet. Yeah.

Well, I mean, Hey, if you are, if you're trying to pull yourself up by the bootstraps by lying, never going to work. If you're already rich, lie all you want. But also the thing too is like 37.6 million dollars is what he was supposed to pay and didn't pay. And you've got to consider that's not everything he made. How much did he have? I have no idea.

I have no idea. I've got to be a lot of shit hidden and stuff like that. Oh, absolutely. But the idea that you can make that much money off these kind of like weird cons is fascinating to me. I know. Cause we ain't making shit. No, I know.

Right. Do you think our main issue is morality? No. God, if we were psychopaths, creativity, it's lack of that's possible. We could come up with one of these fucking hustles easily. But anyway, what would we have? What would we have policy walks, multi-level marketing, do I don't even want to think about

it? Pictures of my cat. I don't know that. That would work. Yeah. For $150 a month, we will maybe send you a picture of Celine every now and again. It would be tough. She doesn't like me taking pictures of her.

She's tearing up, but we'll get you at least one of her tearing up plastic. Sounds good. Yeah. So anyway, I just wanted to go into that because I was listening. I was like, who the fuck's Kevin Trudeau? And I didn't. I didn't know. So I looked into it.

Alex is defending. Interesting. He wasn't a bad guy. It does. It does indicate that like a guy who commits these kinds of crimes is someone who Alex would go to bat for seeing as eventually he supported Trump. Right. Seems interesting and fits together and kind of looks like he might have some of that

history in his, his own life. Oh, Alex. Yeah. Oh yeah. Especially with this info wars team. Oh yeah. All of his supplements. If you actually go to, I don't know if I have it pulled up.

This might be a subject for another day, but I was reading a bunch of reviews of the info wars team, which is the info wars multi-level marketing thing. Right. And there is just nothing but complaints about like, they won't return products. They won't allow you to send things back. They overcharge you. The customer service is terrible. Who would have guessed?

And these are the people who are buying in bulk and selling to other people. So you've got to assume that like, oh, one of the reviews was very clear that like they take down reviews. That's why they have such good reviews for all their products. Yeah. I mean, it's a good experience. Almost everybody doesn't like these products and stuff like that. Right.

Like, oh, interesting. So anyway. Of course not. Let's go back to Trudeau for a second. Alex wants to say a little bit more about him, about their dinner. And then he spins off into some weirdness. Let's put Obama and Hillary Clinton in prison first and then way down the line, we can get to Kevin Trudeau.

Okay. Oh, by the way, how to make a movie about him? I mean, you talk about a BS or man go to dinner with that guy, go to dinner with him at the Four Seasons, his wife, wearing this big old diamond ring, this suit, like a $5,000 suit. I'm sitting there in a T-shirt. And I mean, that's rude, just unbelievable levels of BS, but nothing compared to LeBron James rolling out a moron to sell enslavement and signing on to Obamacare. Here's that.

Okay. Cover today. By the way, it was all covered by charity care. It was all covered by the emergency room hospitals, most of which are, quote, charity hospitals in tax exempt and are supposed to do at least half their care for free. Regular hospitals are supposed to do between 10 and 30% free. That was taught in all medical schools until 20 years ago. They've gotten rid of the Hippocratic oath, all of them.

You've got this. They're getting rid of our healthcare folks and you're now finding that out. So what Alex is actually advocating is a government subsidy of hospitals instead of government subsidy of insurance, right? Which is slightly problematic for his philosophy because I don't see how there's no way to run these hospitals necessarily if half of the shit they do is free unless the government subsidizes. Yes.

He's hearkening back to a fake past right where, where everybody does everything for free. Right. And then like, oh, it's hospitals, missions are charity based and like, I would like to believe that they got rid of the Hippocratic oath. I hear that all the time. Ridiculous. Yeah.

I would like to believe that at some point in history, that's how our society operated. Did not. I think what he's talking about is like missions and Catholic hospitals and stuff like that. They had standards that they put upon themselves in terms of charity or doctors are more than welcome to do it on their own volition. You can't force someone to do charity under Alex Jones' prosperity, libertarian system. So in order to create the system that he wants, you would need government regulation. Congratulations, Alex.

I'm proud of you. You nailed it. Kind of. He got it. But I think it would be a clunkier system to have the hospitals have to take care of everything than everybody have their own government subsidized insurance. That would be an easier way to do it because then you would have freedom of going wherever you want.

I mean, it doesn't really matter. But at the same time, like how do you know if you, when you go to the hospital, if you're in the half that's going to be free or not, you know, you go there and you're like, I think this is going to be a hookup. Every time you, every time you pick a number, right? That's where it's the same way with delis. You show up, you grab the number. Yeah, exactly.

You never know when you're not going to have to pay for something. It's an inefficient system. And you could say that like it would be operated off need. And that's nonsense. There's no way they'd be able to implement that. No, of course not. So, and even, but the thing is, even if you were like, every time we go through this though, there is that there, there is going to be a fight against it and it's going to

come from rich people in the same way. Like the national health service in Britain has been decimated because rich people don't want to help, rich people don't want to have this. When it comes, it always comes back to we need to behead rich people publicly in front of children. I think that's what needs to happen, right? An advocated murder. Everybody's got to drink.

I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I agree with you metaphorically. It comes back. It always comes back to if you want to do something like a national health service, you're going to wind up having it and it's going to work and people are going to love it. And then eventually the trick that's always going to be pulled is, well, it is working

well. So let's defund it. Well, and then it doesn't work as well. So then people stop loving it as much. And so then you can say, well, you know what would work better, privatizing it. And then privatizing it happens and people go, Hey, this doesn't work at all. I think even that's kind of idealistic. Yeah, I know.

In terms of the path that it goes down. That's a good point. So in 2014, there's a lot of shit that's going on in the world. There's a lot of stuff that's happening. And one of the chief things that's happening is that Russia has annexed Crimea. Right. And also Prince is still alive. And so is David Bowie.

Sure. And those are the two main things I know that were happening in 2014. David Jones, not Alex's dad, David Bowie, who should always live forever. But here is Alex having some little, a little bit of statements about the situation in Crimea. Also we're going to get into how this ties together with Israel's defense chief says the U S is projecting weakness. That is not what's happening. And it's like a way to snipe at Obama to claim he's weak.

They're not weak. They're incredibly evil. Like a case of brain cancer and are taking over the planet right now as Obama is just a figurehead. He has to be brought down politically because, because he is the slogan, the idea of making tyranny and global empire trendy. So I'm going to break down what's really going on from my perspective, which I'm trying to brag here.

I'm just telling you, my perspective is accurate on this. This is, this is the globalist system. It's not my opinion on what's happening here. So we'll get into his take on what's going on in Crimea a little bit later. I don't know if I can handle him saying I'm not trying to brag anymore. I think I'm running out. I think I'm running out of patience for it. He says it a lot.

He says it a lot. Yeah. It's driving me insane. I'll say this. We're going to get to it, but his stance on Crimea is not accurate and it's very much Russian. So before we go any further, from what I understand of that clip, he is saying that the Israeli defense chief is saying that America and Obama are projecting weakness for not

intervening in the Crimea situation. Yes. That's the subtext. Alex's take on that is that no, Obama is instead promoting globalist takeover by not intervening. And yet at the same time, he's going to later, I'm almost certain, defend Russia annexing Crimea. So he does not understand that by not intervening, Obama is not acting as a global defense force.

And by annexing Crimea, Putin is expanding your empire sexy. You see, Yanukovych had just fled back to Russia at this point. And so the way that Alex is presenting it is that sure, Crimea is going into Russia or being annexed by Russia, but Obama has managed to take 98% of the country. What? So that's his take. Yeah. Let's get into that.

That, I don't know if he fully spells that out, but that's what he gets at. Like the idea that they're, they're strong in that they have the rest of Ukraine. It's weird. It's weird. What? But he doesn't get into it right away. He's got to give some patented fake news before he does that. Excellent.

And so here's the first piece of it. I'd like to hear it. We're going to be getting to that too. ATF agent says, rating gun store was fine. That's up on info wars.com. Very disgusting article. We're going to be covering. He doesn't really cover it in all that much detail.

But if you go to info wars.com and find the article, the quote that he's taking is basically rating is fun. Paperwork isn't. That's a quote from the guy. And that's not saying rating a gun store is fun. It's being in the field is exciting. Sitting at a desk doing office work. That's not what you signed up for.

Right. Signed up to be out there. Right. That's not anything about like, I love grabbing guns. He's completely misrepresenting that even, even based on the article that's on info wars. If you read it, it's not what he's saying. He just read the headline of his own site. He's giving his own.

What is he? What is he an editor? Come on. No, that's Paul Joseph Watson. Yeah. Editor in at large. So here's another piece of nonsense. He's misrepresenting.

We're also going to get to this report out of the Washington post.com. I've told you this for a long time because it was in the telecommunications act of 96. It wasn't. Again, I'm not, I'm not imagining this and then just being right over and over again. I agree in so far as you are imagining it, but you are not imagining it and being right again and again. Interesting way to parse that. Yes.

The Washington communications act of 1996 was mostly in updating of the telecommunications act of 1934, which was an updating of the telecommunications act of 1909. I don't know. I don't think that was 109 and the reason they needed to make a new act is because back then in 1930, whatever telegraphs. Yeah. The technology is slightly different. And so what it actually was was about regulating monopolies and that sort of thing in, which

is a good thing. So anyway, back to like what we should have, but instead the FCC is allowing people like the Sinclair, Sinclair Broadcasting Network to own all of the media outlets in small towns. Thus forcing people to get what is essentially state run media shoved down their throats and then eventually that it will all be owned by one group. Something that we all know is evil and yet people are consistently voting for it. Troubling. I'd love to be psychic, but we're all intuitive and have a sixth sense to a certain degree,

but not to this level in a surveillance program reaches into the past, retrieve and replay phone calls and then buried in the article. The headline should be in essay records every phone call and saves them forever. That's why I like drugs report.com because in the article in the Washington Post, they admit that later in the article. That should be the headline. What did Drudge headline it in essay recorded every single call? In the country.

Understand. So here's the problem. That's not what what's going on. Right. That isn't that is not what's going on. If you read the entire article, that that isn't in there. I have the Washington Post article. There's this is an NPR article that goes into what's going on here.

And what it is is the United States has the capability to record 100 percent of a country's calls. Okay. This is in reference to foreign countries. This is in response to foreign countries that have interest in terrorism investigations. It's troubling in terms of a technology and even any of these articles bring up how it's it's chilling, certainly. Yeah.

But also the other thing that that goes into the this article goes into is that they have the ability to record all of the phone calls of let's say Indonesia or something like that. Yeah. In the in the deployment, collection systems are recording every single conversation nationwide storing billions of them in a 30 day rolling buffer that clears the oldest calls as new ones arrive, according to a classified summary of this program called Mystic. It's messed up.

I don't like it, but Alex is misrepresenting it. There's no indication that the even even William Benny, Alex Jones is NSA whistleblower. Yeah, at the time it was saying that they are recording 80 percent of the phone calls, which would be too many. But that's also not accurate based on information that's come out. I think I might actually agree with Alex in spirit. Right. In spirit, but not in fact, absolutely not.

But in spirit, the it is, it is the absolute worst thing, but it's the NSA to be capable of doing that. Right. But it's not any indication that they're recording every American's phone calls. No, but they're recording enough. Well, and they are storing them and they're not letting go of them for 30 days. The people like we know that they have and the more reports we get out of that, that's one of the things that Snowden revealed is that they are not.

I am against it. But at the same time, I don't like sensationalized versions of it because then you're not dealing with the reality. When you have Alex's version, you're never going to deal with the situation as it exists. You're going to be having this just scary boogeyman version of it, that every single thing I do is being collected forever. Right. Then you end up in a impotent panic state or in a reactionary violent reaction state.

Okay. And neither of those is productive towards getting anything done. So that's why I, even though I agree, we shouldn't have that capability. It seems like a bad thing for us to have developed. Right. At the same time, I have to be honest and clear that he's lying. Yes. Even the examples that are used, like Glenn Greenwald wrote an article about it around

the same time. Yes. And the examples that are used are like Tamerlin Sarnev's wife, one of the Boston bombers, that she had a phone call that she was being asked about. And there was someone who was on MSNBC and he was talking about how the agencies have that phone call. It's just a matter of whether she would agree to discuss it or if she's going to have to deal with it without that cooperation.

Yes. And the reason that that's not as scary to me as like an idea of like, they have all our phone calls and that's how it's being presented. The reason it's not scary is because those dudes were under investigation for quite a while. They were on the FBI's radar. So the idea that there is a collection of phone calls of their associates and things like that, that's not, that's not that surprising to me.

That is a decent use of spy work to a certain extent. And the fact that they bombed a fucking marathon is indication to me that that line of investigation is worthwhile. Yes, I don't know. You know, that's a, I think that leads us to a very interesting conversation in regards to this. Do you think it would be more effective to have this kind of guy? So there's a certain percentage of the population that is never going to

respond to reasonable facts. Right. Do you think it would be helpful to have a guy like Alex Jones sensationalizing what is an issue in order to mobilize people who would otherwise, uh, you know, so, so you could be mobilized correctly. I don't think they could. I don't think they could either. So no, I think it's counterproductive.

But I think the more reasonable, like when you describe the reactions that these people will have to his sensationalize, you have the impotent panic and you have the, uh, violent overreach. Well, you have Tamerlin Sarniv himself was a big info wars listener. So you have people who have half cocked the guy who went to Comet ping pong with a gun said he loved info wars. Right. So like now at the same time, that's the reaction that you're going to get

realistically other than anti-semitic rants online and people taking super male vitality and doing nothing. Okay. Those are the reactions you're going to have. Now, my next question, none of that helps. My next question to you though, is what is the reaction that people have had to the reasonable facts? Great question.

Which I feel right now is informed impotent. Yeah, there is some like you and I, you and I both know that this is not just, not just bad. It in, and it is, and the, no, fuck this. Okay. People have, all right. People have made their voices heard people have lobbied Congress. Some Congress members have acted and in 2015, Obama did stop the bulk collection

of metadata, that's all that stuff. So yes, people have rationally taken action and gotten a lot of this rolled back. Now, to what extent it's actually rolled back is almost impossible to know. Yes, exactly. But I mean, we can't operate on hypothetical information that may or may not be true. Yes. I don't know. I think, I don't know.

I mean, that's, that's why I asked you. I feel like you took it a little bit defensively. I did. And I just got excited by remembering that the year that Obama did that. Yeah, that's true. Um, no, I, and I, I'm just, I'm just saying that I'm not sure exactly how it is that we should go about that because the other argument now, because we have a dysfunctional government, right?

Well, of course, but I mean, the other argument against that though, is that because of that bulk collection, we do have those recordings of the phone calls, right? Would it have been, I feel like it would be more effective, uh, to reduce the signal to noise ratio, which is something that we've, we've come under fire for a million times, like one of the issues with, uh, preventing 9-11 is that we have so many different, uh, threats that we're theoretically monitoring that you can't give any kind of credence to anyone over another.

I don't disagree with that. So it's hard, it's hard for me to say, dude, what is, what is the most effective situation and whether or not an Alex Jones in this regard would be, uh, helpful or hurtful in this situation. He's hurtful, but I, I think that the answer is, I don't know how you would implement this, but I would imagine that the way to get around this is have, um, a civilian board, uh, with confidential access or whatever that would have oversight over intelligence committees or something along those lines.

As opposed to a FISA court, which is just a rubber stamp. Uh, just, uh, well, no, 99% of the time, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about authorization. I'm talking about like how they have civilian watchdog groups that are in place for police departments in some, uh, cities have been so effective. Well, they, well they've been more, they've been more effective than not having them. I agree. And the, the problem with this would come into you'd have to have like top

secret clearance for these people that have to be, you know, ridiculously vetted. And then at that point, do they become a part of the security apparatus or external from it? It, it's, it's rough, but there needs to be oversight and it can't be from the body politic. Right. It can't be from Congress cause they're, they're going along with it. But then we get into the FEC or the SEC and you can see how they have been

captured as well. You know, when you have people working in the same office as the banks, that theoretically they're supposed to move their offices, but it would do a lot of good just to move their office. Right. We're not going to solve this issue, but I think we will know we will, I think you and I are going to get to the bottom of this tonight. No, we won't give Larry Nichols a call and we're going to bring him into that. So many more clips to get through. So we'll put a pin in how we solve the security apparatus, but at the same time,

let's be totally clear because the way you were talking to some extent makes it sound like I'm in favor of these things. I'm not saying that you're in favor of these things. I understand that, but it could be misconstrued. I'm sorry. I was, I, I just find it to be a very fascinating question that we wind up, that I think we wind up getting, uh, that we're able to talk about in so far as the same, the same question that we often have, which is what happens when Alex Jones is on our side, uh, in a certain way.

Can we utilize that kind of lunatic anger? No. And I, I, I never know. I, I can never be certain. No, in the same way that these anti-Semitic blogs that attack Alex for being a shill of Israel and stuff like that do make some good points about him. Sometimes they are never allies. They can't be right. And, and it's, it's frustrating in some ways because like if, in a perfect world, you could theoretically team up with Alex and fix the drug laws or get rid of civil acid forfeiture or stop these spying things, but you can't.

So you're debunking the art of war now. Yeah. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend. Absolutely not. That's nonsense. All right. Get in bed with these people and you're just, you're too much comes along with it. Don't get in bed with Sun Sue. That is our advice.

No, absolutely not. So let's get to this next clip where Alex explains what some of his fears about, uh, social aid programs are. Gotcha. I think he's not right. And people, Do you want to just start every generation's never gone on welfare. Not a gone on employment sometimes when they were out of work,

which is welfare. Factories are shut down. The other jobs disappearing, the service jobs, being undercut, being replaced by foreign workers. And so you go in and you get your welfare card. And then they go, psychological evaluation comes with this. Go to our government psychologist. We say you're mentally ill.

Go on these drugs. We're taking your welfare. Not true. Now we're going to take your guns. Now we're going to take your kids. If you're on welfare, you should not be spending that money on your guns. This is the domestication process. This is slavery.

This is how they militarily through economics in a. What economic war of sanctions against the American people. That's all this is is economic siege. Bring this country down. That's an interesting sort of a to B to C to D kind of militarily through economics. Yes, it's warfare. It's economic warfare.

That that that is not a realistic path that people go down when they get social assistance. It doesn't even track. Not really. It doesn't even track grammatically. No, but it is it is it does make sense in terms of his fears because it all does come back to gun grabbing like it like where where he fantasizes that these negative paths lead are to oh now we have a reason to take your guns right when

it's like you that that's that if you are mentally ill, we should take your guns, but that's point C. He starts at point A, which is people going on welfare. Yes. At point B, I take great issue with because the path that he goes from A to C is is nonsensical. Bizarre. It doesn't it doesn't connect.

Anyway, that's fun. That's all fun and games. Was that fun and games? I guess. Okay, this next clip. Now we're getting into the fucked up shit. This next clip is super fucked up. Okay, this is so fucked up.

You're just like LeBron. The average marriage is like LeBron narcissistic childlike smile like they're five dressed up like Batman at their birthday party and you know, or they're the five year old getting a ride with the cops because they won an award. I saw that in the news to, you know, to be Batman and the kids look so proud of that same narcissistic glow in their eye. A kid's supposed to be narcissistic to create their own identity, self actuate, become their own person.

But as you become older, you're supposed to become less narcissistic and more about humanity and building systems and being honorable. You're still an individual, but it is more the larger honor system of being part of honorable men and women throughout history. That is really the paramount room that you enter. It is the dark tower, the child roll into the dark tower came. So then he starts quoting a bunch of old books, but I'm not trying to brag, but I'm the least narcissistic person there's ever been.

We're going to get to an even weirder brag here in a second. But do you know who, what he's talking about? Is he talking about the kid, the, the make a wish kid who became Batman for a day and everybody joined in and the thing. So he's saying that the kid, the make a wish kid, the make a wish kid, getting on a kid was fighting leukemia. Okay. All right.

That's fucked up. That's so that's not good. He presents it as a narcissistic kid riding along with the police because he dressed up like Batman for his birthday party. The kid was dying of leukemia at five. He got leukemia at one. He'd been fighting it for four years. He's a make a wish kid.

All he wanted to do was be Batman. So the, the whole city got together, not the whole city, but San Francisco. Plenty of people. Yeah. Tons of people got together and they created a whole scenario where and he stopped the Riddler and tons of people did a very good and charitable thing and Alex has twisted that into something evil and it warmed the entire world's hearts.

Everybody loved it. It was one of the rare, like viral kind of things where it's just like, God damn it, that's great. Yeah, I can't, who's against that? Alex Jones. What an asshole. Also, frankly, LeBron is not narcissistic compared to what he deserves to be exactly based on being probably the best player of the sport ever.

He's a weird, he's a weird savant at basketball and while at the same time also being one of the most physically imposing athletes ever. And this presentation of him is stupid and all this stuff is very racially loaded because if you listen to interviews with him, he is not stupid at all. No, he's an insightful, modest for again, for his talent level person. Not just not just that, but he's brilliant. Like people have asked him about plays like 10 years ago and he remembers not

just the play he remembers his thought process through it. He remembers how he spun the ball through the, like he's a brilliant man. Now, unfortunately in 2014, I believe, if I remember correctly, that was right around the time he was making that big deal out of his decision of going to the heat. No, no, no, no, that wasn't before. That was well before that. That was 2011.

I only, I only am bringing that up because Alex does bring it up and I could get how if you didn't know anything else about him, then that would give a bad taste. That was bad optics. Right. But a lot of that is marketing too. Yeah. A lot of that ends up being like a ton of people made a lot of money on that.

Yeah. And how much of that was his choice or his idea unclear, but who cares? Yeah. Who cares at the end of the day? Who cares? Now, at the end there, he's getting, I mean, just putting aside him shitting on a make a wish kid. At the end there, he's getting into funny.

He's getting to be funny, but it's hilarious that he shits on a make a wish. It's like it's fucking kid. This fucking, I was a make a wish kid. He's like, I applied to be a make a wish kid and sure I wasn't ill. Right. Sure. I wasn't, frankly, I applied last year. The globalists are really just trying to incentivize being definitely sick.

What an asshole. What a complete fucking asshole. So he, at the end there is getting into like these ideas about like, you know, being, being 15 is this, you want to be a man, you want to go and be with honorable people. He's such a, he's such a weird fucking asshole. And here is where we take our jump into esoteric nonsense. Okay, now I'm in.

And also along the way, we're going to find a couple of real fucked up things. He says, and a couple of weird brags about his past that I can't, I can't imagine are true. Okay. The average man though, I mean, men, I've read every culture's writings. No, you haven't. Every culture that had writings and that was always what a 15 year old. Was really seeking for was to be honorable and to tell the truth and to be

a man and to be like their ancestors and to honor their family name and to be strong 15 year olds. If you were a man by 15, they threw you to the side in almost every culture. You need to be a man by the time you were 12, 13, 14. Now they arrest your development and say, Oh, you're not really a man till you're 25 now. You're not really supposed to go out. I mean, all these young people tell me, Hey, I know you're telling the truth,

but I'm young. I want to have some fun first and then you're 30, 35, 40. I want to make money and have a family. And then you're retired. You want to travel. You don't want to be involved. You know, I'm retired now, Alex. I don't want to be involved.

They've set it all up like you're supposed to be selfish. And of course you only worry about yourself and then you lose everything. Only worried about yourself. And then those that understand that collectivism is real, but it's individually actuated and activated by free association to build collectives of free will that are literally stairways to greater civilization and empowerment, not false collectives imposed by those that wish to sabotage the true human potential. By the way, these are the great secrets of civilization.

You're being given right now known by all cultures that thrived. What? Forgotten secrets that are simple, but revolutionary. What? That's why people in every old culture that was a thriving noble culture. Noble. There were cultures that were not noble, but why noble cultures were known by their honor and the fact that like a bulldog, they were bred to hold on and never release.

Bread. But to quote a man for all seasons, I think a bitch got over the wall. Miscegenation. That's because a lot of you out there claim your bulldogs. A lot of people out there claim you want liberty and the animating contest, but you don't act like somebody who has the birthright of George Washington. So there's a lot of dog whistling in there. I mean, I, it was dog whistling, but it was, it's almost too dumb and too lunatic

to really be effective as dog was. Well, a lot of the other stuff about like, uh, uh, uh, we want to be individuals freely associating and that is the real collective. Yeah. The collectivism is individually actuated. He does not know what the word actuated means. I doubt it, but all that stuff is just rambling nonsense. That's vaguely libertarian in nature, but I don't see any of his principles in

place in a lot of the ancient civilizations that I've read about and looked into and studied. Like, well, you haven't read about all of the ancient civilizations or all of the ones that have writing, of course, yes, free, uh, pre literacy, not interested, never, never to nea form. Fuck you a form. I know that especially there were, you know, most ancient cultures didn't have an idea of the free market.

No, that was not a big deal. And I mean, if you look into like Native American civilizations, you look into, I mean, that's even a bad way to put it. You look at the first peoples, you look at a lot of South American cultures, even some in Africa, you don't even have an idea of manhood, quite frankly. Uh, but that's something else I want you to track. That was all about dudes.

Yeah. That was nothing about women. For real? Matriarchy now, please. That had nothing. This is insane. He has no interest in talking about women's place in a society. And you kind of have to assume that that means his vision of it is subservient.

His vision of it is secondary to men and it's just, you need to be women for men and men, of course, by being honorable, right? We'll treat you well in a weird coat of chivalry or whatever. So weird. So there's going to be more about that. That becomes clear as this goes along. But I need to jump into this next clip because it's one of my favorite things I've ever heard.

Okay. This is one of Alex's weird childhood brags. Okay. This cannot be true. I guarantee please, uh, this is a mic down. Okay. The specifics here are so stupid. I transcended delusion and narcissism at about age five.

I remember it at age three, understanding at age five, transcending that imagining I'm a king, imagining I'm powerful, imagining I'm dominant, imagining is, is a fraud and a lie. And I could see it in other children and, and, and literally set back with the wisdom of an old man because of my genetics and my instincts that all of you have as well, but accessing those. I knew things that old men knew when I was a boy. And then I look at people like LeBron James, who is literally a child, ladies

and gentlemen, it's very, very sad. Shelling liquid death and poison to people that go sign up because LeBron told him who's 30, it's like using a puppy. Obama is using LeBron James like a puppy and a bag of candy to get the child in the back of the white van to be taken to a torture center for 14 snuff films to be produced. Now let me be clear. I just want to pause here for a second.

Uh, I don't know how one individual is going to make 14 snuff films, probably a small logistical piece of this, but, uh, I think the limit person is one, that's where Dan really gets angry. But I don't blame the puppy, but he is a dangerous puppy. Nevertheless, LeBron James, he is a weapon system. Great. Great. Um, all that aside.

All right. So at five, let's talk about child development. This is not good. Um, so do you know what's going on with your, uh, sort of cognitive development at the age of three, when Alex Jones had the wisdom of the ages and, uh, old men? Um, I think that's when you first, like all the child psychology I've read is at three, you are first learning, uh, how to interact with, uh, other human beings. And somewhat, you are, you are developing, uh, guttural speech patterns.

Uh, you were first, you were first, perhaps divine in consciousness. You have your baby teeth now. You are also able to access the wisdom of the ancients, but only if you're activated individual. They, okay. So here I have this here from, uh, from the, uh, the office of child development at the university of Pittsburgh. Yeah, you can't trust them.

Yeah. Uh, Pittsburgh, come on. At the age of three, children start to pay attention to stories and are able to respond to things in the stories. That's how their brain is at. Uh, they're able to understand shapes at three for the first time. Uh, they're able to understand size, race memory, only relative size. That's how race memory works.

They at least know the primary colors, red, yellow and blue. Yeah. They start to understand counting on a very basic level wisdom of the ancients. They love to scream, uh, one, two, three, all that stuff. Yes. Uh, they, uh, understand words that sound similar. Like, uh, in this example, sat and Pat, they start to be able to tell the difference of that.

Actually, that's about like four years. And socialism and communism, those sounds similar. They start to be able to develop the idea of fear, uh, so scared of like things under the bed that's around the age of three. Um, they start to have a creative imagination, a tiny bit, uh, in terms of being able to play make believe, which is sort of relevant to Alex's. Uh, I think, I think more relevant is the fear of the monster under the bed. I think that's where Alex stopped.

Um, so, uh, at this point, uh, at age four, your cognitive development usually evolves to the point where you're able to lie at age four. You were able to stretch the truth a little bit. Children before that generally aren't able to come up with counterfactual statements. Uh, at age four, they are, uh, children are also able to much more than before, uh, work cooperatively, uh, so that evolves around that point. Uh, and then, uh, let's look at age five, uh, they are, uh, they're accessing the wisdom of the ancients.

When do we get to accessing the wisdom of the ancients, Dan? No, they're at this point, uh, in child development at age five, this is relevant to Alex, uh, the children show, uh, their play is more evolved and includes roles, props and costumes at age five. Okay. So you start to get the sense that maybe Alex, you know, at age three, it was like, meh, got my teeth. Is that what he was like?

Got my T at age four, you became more able to stretch the truth. And at age five, his play became more evolved and involved, involved roles globalists and he's been stuck there ever since. That's my theory and I'm going to stick to it. Man, think about it. Think about the, what kind of lunatic would claim that at age five, he knew things that an old man, do you understand? That age five, like legitimately is when you start to be able to

understand that night and day are different and they're on a cycle. Yeah, that's the kind of development that you're able at, able to understand at age five, like you might be able to count to 20 at age five, unless you are incredibly, uh, developed, like, unless you're one of these savant types. Right. And that, that's possible. But Alex is not that based on what we've been able to discern. No.

He is still unable to read. You might be able to identify all 26 letters of the alphabet at a five. You might. Really? Yeah. I was able to read before five. Well, look, some people are on different scales. This is just general.

Oh, okay. This is just generally speaking, where development is at those points. I don't know. I don't trust these Pittsburgh people. Oh, right. Whatever. Anyway, go back to your steel mills, child psychologists. They can't.

They're on the welfare. I'm ending up diamond gusset saying about it steel mills went down south. So like the only reason I bring up these sort of examples to give a generalized sense, because I don't know if our listeners all have kids or anything like that, but like there's no way at age three, Alex's like, I don't think he could even, you know what I think happened? I think he watched a Wes Anderson movie and was like, I'm going to pretend that was me.

Yeah. That's probably what happens. That sounds right. I know a lot of people like that. That's my, uh, that's my best guess. Hold on. I pretend that I'm in, uh, one of the Seymour Glass novels from, uh, JD Salinger.

You know what I'm saying? Hey, I'm a six year old. I got stocks. Ah, fuck off. Anyway, uh, let's get to this next clip where Alex continues his esoteric ramblings about, uh, man. Oh, no, you have to understand folks, the globalist are your sworn enemy. And you can step in to manhood, step into your honor, or you can be weak forever.

And that doesn't mean any of us are perfect. All of us are dishonorable at one level or another, but we seek to be honorable. What are you fucking talking about? We know good from evil. We know right from wrong. That's why the enemy always seeks to discredit me and say, I'm not real. I'm saying I'm dishonorable because they've been following me for 20 years and they know I'm honorable and have the blood of honor in me.

Just as you do as well. I'm nothing special. I just accessed my basic primary operating system of being a man. You can access it as well. The hardware is there. You don't even have to learn this, ladies and gentlemen, you have to access it. You have to stop being insecure. You have to stop caring when people think about you.

You have to stop worrying about what the world says because it's a fraud. And you have to access your real human programming that God put in you. Or, you know, you can learn how to read stardust. You are of the universe. You're on a planet. You want to go to space? You want to travel? You want to see other worlds?

You're on a beautiful world. You're part of something amazing. You're on a fantastic forbidden planet. What? You're on a world of wonder. All right. The mysteries of the universe spill out before you in the end. Incredible, transcendental experience of full spectrum consciousness

that the enemy doesn't have a source open in front of their robot slave. I am not their biological replicant. I am a man. I am real and I am free and I seek justice. He just one of the foundations of the earth. God wanted us to be free. So do you notice here he switched into his fake voice? Yeah.

But we have to make the decision which side we serve. The weak will serve evil commercial because they believe it has power. But it only has a reflection on its face of the universe. But they stare into the reflection as the narcissist. The reflection is not the reality. The reflection is only a two dimensional facsimile. Nope. Just as their genetic research, they only have a photo of the grizzly bear,

not the true genetics of the grizzly bear. They only have a photo of the human genetics, not the way it actually works, not the real human. What? Just as the devil is a counterfeit of God. What? And as a photograph of God and a distorted photograph of that, God is the real power.

Let's go to this clip breaking down the worship of sports. God, it's so hard. It's so hard to take him seriously. I mean, it's really our bad. God damn it. It's our fault for listening. Like, what is he trying to say here? I thought he was like, let's go to this clip about sports.

And we're going to head to Marv Albert. He's on the sidelines right now. Well, what? Marv, how do you feel about being part of the stardust of the universe? Yes. It's great. Um, so like, uh, he's just, he is just trying to get through it. Try to get to the commercial break.

Yeah. And like he, he's like, so he's going through this like manly hood, honor, blah, blah, blah, gets into the esoteric shit. And then he's like, I'm running out of gas. So he puts on that fake voice. Yep. It does the like, you're in a world kind of, kind of shit. You can tell that's not his real speaking voice.

No. Puts on those little, uh, those weird sounds. Yeah. You can, you can hear it very clearly. And then he's just like, well, I've milked this for all it's worth. Let's go to a special report. Okay. We got three minutes in.

All right guys, let's move it along. I got nowhere to go with this. Um, so here we go. We get back to, uh, Russia here in this, uh, this next clip a little bit. Magical forbidden planet. He's not done, uh, with some of that weird, heady nonsense, but he, he, uh, when he comes back from the, uh, he's regrouped after that. And he gets, he gets back.

He's redocker group gets back into Russia a little bit. And now Biden is escalating things saying Russia is alone naked in front of the entire world because they've got trendy Obama, the secret weapon. Everything's okay. Even if they cause nuclear war, it's okay. Cause it's trendy. I mean, Obama's black. Come on.

That boy. Ironic in current context. Uh, not, not the part of like, Hey, it's cool cause he's black. And also you can see him be like, Oh, actually I'm going to go with, he's probably thinking, Hey, it's cool if Trump starts a nuclear war cause he's white. So there might be a chance. I'm definitely going to, I'm definitely going to ride with Ironic in current

context on this one. Well, there's a moment after he says that where he's like, uh, he's going to start a nuclear war. It's cool cause he's black where he's like, Hmm. I need to, I need to, maybe. Ooh. I need to firm this one up. That one might have, might have gone a bit too far on the inside of me.

What he said, he says after that, he's like, Al Gore. He's trendy. Al Gore is not trendy, sir. I think that's why he lost. Yeah. Or I think that's why the election was stolen from him. And why we have absolutely fixed climate change. Yay.

Uh-huh. So I mean, I have a lot of feelings about like some of these noble culture ideas and, uh, I have the blood within me. There's a lot of vaguely racist talk. Um, and he starts off this next clip with a, with a. Let's make the subtext text. This, this next step is a little, a little racist. We're falling off the demographic cliff as well.

Already off the next two years or so. Gonna break down what that means, why they're getting ready to save the pension funds by nationalizing them. And that's all been announced, by the way. You notice the armored vehicles are getting in place, the cameras, the SWAT teams, the domestic police, the national police force is being militarized. Everything's being prepared. And just so you don't struggle, it's important before they do the procedure

that you be strapped down properly and have a gag in your mouth, because this is going to hurt. There's not going to be any anesthesia. I will assure you. We're trying to stop all that, but we're extremists. You know, those type of people. Uh, now continuing, ladies and gentlemen, this hour is brought to you by MyPatriotSupply.com

You son of a bitch! He's not as smooth with the ad transition back then. No, definitely not. It's not, and it's for MyPatriotSupply.com slash Alex. Yeah. It's not, uh, info or store products. They haven't started selling their own MyPatriotSupply products.

Right. He, at this point, is still like taking on an advertiser, which is interesting. Do you know, if you, you could make a supercut of things that he said, and it would sound exactly like a serial killer right before murdering his victim. A thousand percent. Like that is insane. But that's cause he's trying to get those feelings in people's heads before he sells them something.

Yeah, but I feel like it's because he said those things to a victim before. I don't think you're the only person who's thought that. Yeah. Jesus. Um, so yeah, I mean, it's interesting how he makes that sales pivot, but the racism thing that I was, uh, referencing is the idea of the demographic cliff. Um, and what it comes down to is generally like, we're not breeding enough. Yeah.

That's exactly what he's saying. Now you can couch it on ideas of like, we are not going to be able to replace everybody on social security. And that's not accurate. Or you can pretend that it's because more immigrants are coming in and all of that shit. But ultimately it goes down to white people need to fuck more. We need more white people. Yeah.

So earlier in the show, Alex, uh, he was talking about, uh, his fears about welfare, which lead to you getting declared mentally ill, uh, by the state and having your guns taken away and all that bullshit. Yeah. Um, in his next clip, Alex, uh, reveals, uh, that he thinks that, uh, being mentally ill is cool. Uh, and it is trendy and, uh, he has, I know, I think it's cool.

He has a disgusting fucking take on it. Please don't. I have another sickening report here. Mental health hospitalizations increase in children. Only 10% of children are hospitalized for mental health diagnosis, but minority children are frequently overlooked. You're very lucky, aren't they? Uh, no, that's cause they don't, on average, I guess have more money to suck out of mommy

and daddy. It's the trendy thing now to, you know, your kids on a bunch of red dye and a bunch of sugar and a bunch of crud. And you put them on Prozac type drugs and they really get mentally ill. And then, oh, we better hospitalize your five year old. And it's like, oh, mom goes, oh, my child has a mental illness. I'm going through a lot. I'm even going to get government assistance now.

And it's like really the coolest things to do. And then they can really screw your kid up and they give them, you know, electroshock therapy when they're 10. It's a therapy. Just like a Patriot acts patriotic or the affordable care acts affordable and double shippers your prices. And then by the time your kids 20, they can be totally mentally ill and mind wiped, artificially schizophrenic, talking to themselves on the street corner and you can wash your hands

of them. You know, we don't know why. Bobby is a mentally ill woman on the street. We don't know why Bobby is, but we did the best we could with the doctors. We'll be right back. Stay with us. So that's great. Dude, dude, I mean, it's so interesting.

Fucking aren't the aren't the so many layers there are fascinating. So, so much, so much, so much hurt in that one clip. So much damage done to so many lives in that one clip. If people like listen to him. Yeah, absolutely. You, you are possibly stigmatizing children in their parents eyes. I mean, all sorts of fucking things. Like if you were, if you were an info wars devout listener and you have children and

your kids are displaying mental illness symptoms, they need help. You need to get, you need to get your children help. I knew I almost Christian scientist. I knew I had a mental illness at 15. I read up on it. I didn't do anything about it. I didn't tell my parents because they didn't believe in mental illness. I didn't do anything about it until I was 23 because they didn't believe in

mental illness and I was afraid. I was terrified that they were actually going to stop caring about me or they were going to even worse, send me to some sort of religious therapy bullshit. Yeah. That type of shit hits so close to home to me. Yeah. It's fucking horrific. That mentality and that rhetoric will lead to people's deaths.

Absolutely. Cause quite, quite frankly, I mean, I don't want to get it too in depth about specifics of a lot of stuff, but like if it weren't for therapy when I was in my teens and even some time I spent in mental hospitals, I would be dead. I would absolutely be dead. I'm shocked. I'm not. I tried.

Yeah, exactly. I tried a few times. That's why I went to the hospitals. It wasn't because it's cool and trendy. No. It's because I had serious issues from, I mean, Alex could debate all day whether it's red dye or sugar or anything like that. You know the only people who are going to put their fucking kid out on the street

and say, Oh, we tried, but they're mentally ill, people who don't believe in mental illness or people from noble cultures. Fuck you. Yeah. Fuck him. Yeah. That's. Yeah.

Absolutely. Unfucking real. And let me say this too. Like I think that we're getting better as a society in many ways about mental health issues in terms of destigmatization and shit like that. But at the same time, I know at least at this point, people are not bragging about their kids being mentally ill. That's not something that happens.

That's not like, Hey, my kid's fucked up. Oh my God, you get social credit points or something like that because they're most parents. Hey, I, I, I hesitate to say most, but I think there's a lot of people who look at their children as sort of extensions of themselves. You know, brag about negative things about your kid or things that we perceived as negative things. There's not like, uh, this is such bullshit.

There's a bit. It's devastating bullshit. I do. I do a bit about being bipolar and it's a really old bit and I could, and I've, I've thought about not doing it anymore, but every time I go on the road and do it in some shitty small town, I get at least one person who comes up to me in these small towns and says, thank you. Sure.

Thank you for talking about this. I know somebody or my kid or me, they always come up to me and they say, thank you for talking about this because nobody talks about it. And it's, it's, it really means a lot to me. We've gotten emails like that from this show. Exactly. Yeah. It is so important to actually just fucking give people a space to talk about something

that they are ashamed of, that they're afraid of all of this shit and it is, it, it kills me. It kills me when people do this shit because it's, it's tight. It's this type of shit that I, that led to suicide attempts. Many like that's like this type of shit is God damn it. I could, I could be dead. I could legit be dead because of this exact rhetoric. That mentality.

Yep. So congratulations, Alex. You're, you're great. In his next clip, Alex. And you shit on a make a wish kid. You fucking pilot garbage. Hey, you know, it's really trendy leukemia, Dan. That's a globalist thing.

That's a globalist thing. In his next clip, Alex harkens back to a time that never existed. When I was growing up, sports folks were not as arrogant as they are now and people that were successful. It was all about not being here. Wonder, wonder what he's talking about. I gotta tell you, you grew up during the revenge of the nerd players. I run into a professional folks and they are just mentally ill, arrogant people walk, walking

pit bulls downtown and bumping into people like they're God and just whereas you should just as a whole sports people act like a bunch of narcissistic mentally ill twits. So let, I mean, we don't even need to unpack the idea that he thinks that back then athletes were better because first of all, they weren't and he was an athlete back then. So he has to say that. Well, I guess that's true. I didn't even consider that element of it, but yeah, that's, that's again, I think that's, that's just bananas.

I think it's a little race-based. Yeah. So here's the, here's another clip that looks real bad. Back then only white people used to do athletics and they were all assholes. Yeah. Like all the history of in Major League Baseball, do not, do not even don't dive into Major League Baseball up until like five years ago, weren't arrogant. This is just struggling to not say like uppity or something like that.

Yeah. That's basically what he's doing. Yeah. So in this next clip, we transitioned from weird sort of race stuff to gender. And I want you to succeed, be successful. The globalists do not. They're in competition with a strong society, a strong male driven society, a patriarchal society.

They're threatened by a real Americana. They're threatened by 1776 that will empower women and everybody else. They're threatened by individualism. So I mean, you just made it clear there. Explain to me how a patriarchy empowers women, Dan. I know their place. Oh boy. I don't know.

I'm trying to answer in his head. I don't know. I don't, I don't understand what he's saying. I don't know. He's never been that overt that he is looking for a male driven society that's so clear. That's so clear. And if you have read the histories or at least of all the cultures that have writing patriarchies are self-perpetuating war machines that only destroy the poor and the weak.

They're cannibalizing fucking monstrous worlds. That seems to be a through line through most of them. That explains the free market. But you know what happens whenever you give women power? Only good things. It does seem like there has never been a negative result of giving women more power. I'm looking. I'm trying to think.

I'm trying to think through matriarchal societies throughout tribal times and I'm trying to think of ones that sprouted into empires. No, generally speaking matriarchal societies always prized the happiness of all members over the leader. Everybody got laid a lot more simply because women had the power of choice and also all number of different things. Selfish male pursuits are better off in matriarchal societies far, far less, far, far less war and death.

Absolutely. So which is why they always lose. But it makes total sense on this episode where Eric, Eric, Alex, Eric, Alex, Eric Jones. He's getting in this weird rambly esoteric headspace about masculinity and never bringing up femininity right to then towards the end of the show be like the globalist eight men driven societies because it does. It is all just victim hood. It is all just I am.

I don't want to give up my place in society that has been there. And so when he harkens back to athletes being better when he was younger or any of this other shit, what he's talking about is when white men were in charge of shit and gay people had to hide. Make America great again, Dan. That's what is resonating with him and Trump like it has to be. Of course. There's no way that someone is on the radio spouting this kind of rhetoric.

And when he hears someone who has a history, a long documented history of bigotry, who is a big make America great again. He can't not think that that's what he's talking about. It's fucked up. It's really, really, it's deeply, deeply troubling a man, man. Yep. So also in this episode, if there's if there's any better example of why women should have way more power, it's just listen to this insecure, insane piece of shit talk when it comes down

to it is just so much misplaced insecurity. Yeah. He's it's it's all of the fragile man fear. They're so afraid. It's amazing how terrified these people are under the veneer of righteous anger and positions of power. And it's just constant fear. It's delusional to think that it doesn't relate to his like love of Putin too.

Yeah. Frankly, I mean, that's he loves big dicks. He loves big dicks more than Alex Jones loves them. He's a size queen, but huge dick. You know, one thing he's not into what those like cancer ribbons. He thinks the globalists are behind him naturally. So he has an alternative theory for their behind the make a wish kid too. Sure.

Here's what he would like to replace cancer ribbons with. I think I think he should do a second pass on this is not a good idea. I don't have a ribbon that says we know the new world orders killing us. Not. We know the government's poisoning us. We know there's a eugenics operation. We have to come up with some symbolism like that and then we can all just identify. You think that's too long.

Maybe an upside down flag that in the white stripes had little messages that says there is a program to poison the population. There is a program to impoverish the population. There is a program to destroy the family. There is a program to bring in world government. It's run by the large central banks like the Federal Reserve here in the United States. Too much. And until we identify that enemy, we have no future.

America and the world is occupied by the new world order. They are the enemy. Discover the enemy or perish. And you stick the upside down flag on everything. Great. Great idea. The acronym of that wouldn't fit on a ribbon or it'd be a giant sticker. We're talking billboard at this point.

People be driving by squinting like what the fuck can't read that text, causing so many fucking accidents. That's a bad idea. I want to see him try and write that on anything. He'd start with a big letter and then it just gets smaller and smaller as you try to fit it in. And so he has a lot of spin on the situation in Ukraine that he gets into. Right.

And it's not good. It's pretty bad. It's standard, the Russian line on it. Prokhorov. Prokhorov. And but he does bring up one thing that I think is worth mentioning. And it's an article that interviewed Ron Paul on the subject. And I'll just play this here.

In the USA Today. Ron Paul, Crimea secedes. So what? The Ukrainians of Crimea voted over the weekend on whether they would remain an autonomous region. The Ukraine or join the Russian Federation in doing so. They joined a number of countries and regions, including recently Scotland, Catalonia and Venice.

Nope. They are seeking to secede from what they view as an unresponsive or repressive governments by 96.77%. That sounds like a suspicious number. Isn't that isn't that's very similar to the number of all the dictators polls? Really speaking. Yeah. And if you look into it, there are, there have been polls that have been done after the

fact that say something to the tune of like 80% of the public think that the polls were fair or something like that, that they're like this reflects the will of the people. That sounds suspicious too. It's also 16% lower than the people who voted yes for it. And that seems to be a significant percentage. Seems strange. The reason, the international community generally has called this referendum vote into question. And one of the reasons is that when it happened, the peninsula of Crimea was occupied by Russian

soldiers. Yeah. There, it's unclear. I don't think that there's enough information to say it was a completely rigged vote or anything like that, but there are a bunch of red flags. I think there's plenty of information. Really dictators end up winning by these giant margins. 97% of the vote seems to be a very common number.

And generally, whenever there are places that are voting and they're occupied by interested parties army, it doesn't, it's not fair. It's not a fair election. It's weird how huge the population of the vote was for Hitler whenever he invaded France. France was like 96% of the vote for Hitler taken over France. Yeah. And then the other, the other aspect too is that there were tons of reports of like pre-marked ballots and stuff like that.

There, there's a, there's a lot of questions. Is a rig. There's a lot of questions. And Alex, if he was being fair and relay, like not trying to tow the Russian line, then I don't believe that he would be like, Oh my God, it's so great. They got 96% of the vote. Right. Well, even in, you would be like, this is, this, this smells, this is the globalists.

Even in Catalonia, where they were talking about the vote tally for pro-independence. Well, this is now, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even then they also caveated that with, and the other side rejected voting entirely. So it's like, yes, independence won with 90% of people reporting though, but all the

other people who would have voted no, out of just a, you know, boycotted the vote. And Scotland didn't vote. Scotland did not vote to secede. They voted to stay. Yeah. Yeah. They will vote to secede. Very, very shortly.

Yeah. Now that, well, I mean, we, we believe that the Brexit isn't going to end up working out. I don't think it's going to happen. No. But if it does, then they will secede. And so will Northern Ireland, which will be very awkward. So the, the reason that I, I believe that Alex is incredibly biased in terms of his coverage of Crimea is everything I know about him.

And that's a good one. This next clip where he is super defensive about how patriotic he is and then says something right at the end of this two and a half minute clip that makes me think you doth protest too much, sir. You know, just until about 50 years ago, and this is probably discriminatory and a bad thing, but back when America really was run by Americans, you couldn't get a high level position unless your family been here back in 1776. So also, okay, that's, that's bad, very bad.

That is also white. Yeah. Straight. That's kind of inclusive. A little bit elitist, isn't it? A little bit. Oh, but, but I could go be part of the societies with the elites that were in, you know, from the Mayflower.

I could go be part of the, you know, sons of the Republic of Texas. My mom could be daughters of the Republic of Texas, grandmothers, grandmothers, and I'm not saying I'm some hoity-toity guy, confederates, you know, you know, the whole point is I'm an American and you get that through your stinking heads. And don't you ever, you scumbag traders who are, who are sold out to the foreign banks that are gutting this country, don't you ever, ever tell me I work for some foreign government and you know who you are. I dare one of these neocons to get in my face and say that I'll punch you in the nose.

You understand that? Sounds like you were for a foreign government. You ever say that I'm not loyal to this country. Go ahead, punch me in the face. I will stomp your ass into the ground and I don't mean to talk like this, but I am an American, 110%. And you tell me I'm not a loyal American, I will stomp you into the ground. Do you understand that?

Except for the four years where my answers weren't in America. I want this country to survive. I love this country. I believe in this country. We were exceptional. And I'm sick of people signing us on to the New World Order, to a world government, destroying our industry, destroying our country, poisoning our people chemically and culturally. And then you have got the nerve to sit up here and tell me that I'm not an American.

You're not an American. You're a piece of trash sold out to the New World Order. The neocons, the Democratic Party, all of you are enemies, enemies. You want to usurp me, you want to usurp my family, and you want to usurp everyone and trot them underfoot. Well, I'm not going to sit here and I'm not going to put up with it and that's what it comes down to. I am the rightful heir.

You are the rightful heir. We are the rightful heirs of this republic. And I don't care if you just got off a boat here. If you like the Bill of Rights and Constitution, you like freedom. You don't want handouts. You don't want to be a slave. You want guns. You want to raise your own children.

You don't want to abort 53 million, 54 million babies. Then you are my brother. I don't care what color you are or where you're from. You want freedom? Then you're on the same side as I am. But if you want to be part of gangs and inside scams and all this crud, you're an enemy. But I do see the Russians surrounded and I do see them being bullied and pushed around and I see a sovereign country just like America under New World Order attack.

And I do have solidarity with the Russians at that level. That was an ad pivot. That was the exact same thing as an ad pivot. It kind of is. He just did that. Yeah, I guess it is. I love America so much and if you love America, you'll also love the Russians and we have 50% off sales for joining Crimea's independence movement.

You're totally right. Yeah. It's an ad pivot. You are totally right. That is the same structure. Yep. That's fucked up. I just thought of the comedy of it's very funny two and a half minutes of really defensive.

I am America. Listen, you've hit me with enough ad pivots for me to know when an ad pivot happens. Yeah. Yeah. Structurally tonally eggs. 100%. Yep. What a fucking dick.

Um, so I mean, you look, um, sure, Russia isn't a communist country necessarily. No. And that's great. I guess. Right. I mean, in terms of Alex's rhetoric of being like, you know, they're a sovereign country and what once again, communism is an economic system. The issue has always been that they are a autocratic oligarchy and that hasn't changed.

No it has not. And Putin has been in power since 2000. Yes. And he has been up to some shit ever since. So this is 14 years into him being a in ruling and he'd shown his colors in many ways is stripes. And the fact that Alex would think like they're cool to, to the extent or even that they love freedom.

Yeah. And to the, to the, to the very extent that he would make that kind of a statement after this rambly bullshit about patriotism, yeah, it just shows like either he's the dumbest man in the world or he's a foreign agent. Exactly. I mean, like it, I know that we don't have evidence of it, but we have everything except evidence. Yeah, I know.

And, and, and really, like on the last episode we, we covered, I don't know if it'll be the last one that is put out at this point, but on the episode that we did back in January 2016, where he's like, my numbers have doubled and my money hasn't gone up, right? We were very clear that he is the beneficiary of the Russian bots and the Russian influence campaign, the traffic being boosted and that sort of thing. And when you start to question why the fuck would they choose Alex Jones, we have this glimpse from 2014 where it's like he's been pro Russia all along. They chose him because he is what they would want to push.

That is the only sense in which I think it's very, it's very reasonable and probably legally inactionable in that he's probably dumb. I mean, we're in 2014. Yeah. Hey, I mean, are they pushing him? No. Because they think that he's what they want in 2016 or are they pushing him because they've been cultivating him the same way that they cultivated Trump back in 2013.

We certainly don't, you know, we certainly don't know when he had that talk with Russian intelligence and they told him Putin listened. But I think that's instrumental in that, but he has been going on RT since at least 2008 and as we covered on the last episode, also he's fully aware that it's a state run propaganda. Oh yeah. So I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know how deep back the cultivation aspect of it goes. I'd be willing to believe that that was more recent, but also he's clearly, I don't think I would. That is Dick sucked way back when he's clearly oblivious of that even. Well, yeah. He's oblivious to the extent that they're flattering him in order to create a willingness to have pro-Russia stances. He is a dumb, dumb man, but even then you have to consider too that like his favorite

politician in America is Ron Paul and Ron Paul's response to Crimea is who cares. Right. So like, but at least within Ron Paul's kind of operating ideology, that's mainly just because it's over there. True. Like with Ron Paul, you could say like, Hey, did you know that Russia nuked all of Europe? Ron Paul would be like, that's across an ocean. I don't give a shit.

Lower Texas. I got to take a nap. Yeah. I don't know. It's just, it's interesting, but I would be willing to believe that even all that cultivation that they've done, Alex is unaware of it. And to the extent that he like, cause you could hear clear surprise about the numbers going up and the, the sales not going up.

Yeah, that's true. So that I could believe that he is the unwitting beneficiary of this, this assistance and push from the, the bots and the troll farms, but I'm not willing to believe is that Roger Stone didn't know that I don't believe Roger Stone knows that I absolutely don't believe. I think Roger Stone is not a dumb man. No, he is part of influencing Alex. Yeah. He would be part of that without knowing the rest of the game.

Yeah. And this goes back to what we talk about all the time. Alex can't know. No. Cause he would, he'd blab. Yeah. He would tell everything. Yeah.

And that's, but it's, it's, it's unreasonable to think that it is impossible for him to be a foreign agent at this time. Like when you go, no, no, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not talking to you in this regard. I'm more, I'm more talking in the general sense, since we know that, you know, the more we find out about how Flynn was a foreign agent, how Manafort was a foreign agent, how all of these guys have all been working for other governments, lobbying for other governments and not disclosing that, the more you're like, well, how long has that

ship been going on? And the answer is probably forever. Yeah. Probably a while. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. There's, there's a absolutely decent chance, but with those dudes, like I think to some

extent it's not political. Like they just want to get money. Yeah. Yeah. They just want to get rich. I, I, but I, and that's why I buy Alex Jones being a foreign agent. Alex Jones just wants to get rich baby. Yeah.

Like that's what he's, like the more, the more we talk about Alex, the more the, all of the bullshit flies away. Except, except white male fear. And guns. Yeah. Those two things are absolutely intrinsic. Right. And as they relate to misogyny and racism, it's real.

But even then that is that I would argue is also tied in with looking for money, looking for money and looking for power are ultimately insecure things to do. Yeah. Speaking of which, like donate to the show. I was trying to find a stupid way to end the show. You nailed it. You can go to our website, knowledgefight.com. We got a bunch of like blog content up there and shit.

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Say nice things. Or don't call us. Call us globalist. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. As long as you give us a five star review, you can say whatever the fuck you want. Sure.

There's a new game. Who can say the meanest thing with a five star review? No, no. Make up a conspiracy about us. Oh, that'd be fun. I don't know. Okay. Absolutely.

I don't. I don't. You can make up a conspiracy theory about anything really. Sure. I think I would like to make up a conspiracy theory about one guy. See, it hurts your conspiracy theory when you couch it that way, but I want to make up one. You make a very good point.

Probably going to hurt traction. You make a very good point. Let's give it a try anyway. All right. Okay. So we've already covered the teeth. We know the teeth. Thoroughly.

We know the teeth. Reincarnated Alex Jones. We got him covered. What he's hiding to talk about now is what he's hiding in that beard. A lot of stuff. Probably rations. You know what? I'm going to go with an extra set of teeth.

I one time went to a concert and hit a joint in my beard because they didn't pat down my beard. And so like I had a joint in there and it put it out. People don't advertise this about beards. Yeah. Very good containers for marijuana. Absolutely. Absolutely true.

Made that whalers concert tolerable. Now let me tell you something. You know who would benefit from having a joint in his beard, Dan? Who's that? A guy who I would also like to entreat to go fuck himself. So go fuck yourself, John Rappaport. Andy and Chanzos. You're on the air.

Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.