Knowledge Fight - #1054: June 16, 2025

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to chronicle Alex's coverage of the ongoing Second American Civil War, and the looming new World War, plus a heartbreaking call from a listener who doesn't want his wife to be deported.

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What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? I have a bright spot and a, meh, debatably dark spot. All right. And I get, I once again give you the choice of the order we're gonna go in. You know, I feel like the instinct would be to switch it up just for the novelty,

but you know what, I think I'm right. Bad news first, get the good news, we'll go off on a good note. Okay, this isn't entirely bad news, but it's something we haven't really addressed. Okay. And that is, the last time that we mentioned our other podcast, it's a matter of time.

Let's never mention that again. The last time we mentioned it on this podcast, I was making a bright spot that I was committing to putting it on iTunes. I do recall that. and then almost immediately we decided We're not doing We had a conversation and neither of us really gave a shit about Well, I still enjoy the 60s TV shows sure sure sure sure I still want to watch stuff sure

But doing a recap show especially of like everything that we're gonna find is gonna be episodic And it's either gonna be like, oh, this was good, or, oh, this sucks. And I felt trapped, and I think you felt the same, and not in a fun way. It is a strange thing for us to just go like, I can enjoy a thing without also making it into a show about me enjoying a thing, yeah.

Yeah, and so we decided, and so it's a dark spot for the very limited number of people who enjoyed that and wanted us to do that. Yes. God bless you all. Yeah. Sorry. Derek and Nan. That's, yeah. So that's the sort of dark spot is that is discontinued. Sure. We'll do something else, I'm sure, you know, at some point or... We always do. You, I'm sure, at some point or. We always do. We'll have other things we do. I really wanted to do that show in the same way

that I started doing these bright spots when the pandemic started. And I really wanted to be, at least in some way, encouraging people to look for something nice in their life. Sure. You know, shit's bad. Yeah. But hey, here's this fun thing.

Let's try this. Yeah, let's not be depressing all the time. Right. And you know, when Trump reelected, I didn't want to just talk about this shit all the time. Sure. And I wanted to have that other thing thing as some kind of if you like us You can like this and listen to this and it's not depressing, but it I just don't think it worked. Mm-hmm

Nope, so anyway, sorry. Yeah, so bright spot. Yeah, let's do it I was laying in bed and so oftentimes slain my cat will use my hand as a pillow Okay, she'll lay in my I sleep with my arm. Yeah like that usually use your hand. That pillow. She'll lay in my, I sleep with my arm like that. Usually- And she'll use your hand, that's cute. It's very cute. That's very cute. And I was laying there and she started licking my hand.

Aw. Right? Yeah. And I realized that the expression is, ah, cat got your tongue? And I had a rare opportunity to get a cat's tongue. Right. And so I took it.

And I tried to grab her tongue because she was licking my hand right I could just snatch you just do it Yeah, I was unable to get her tongue. Yeah, but she was very confused. They're quick Yeah, they I've seen videos where there are some other I guess faster than snakes or something see there you go. That's crazy Yeah, I could not grab her tongue, but I chuckled as I grab her tongue but I chuckled as I tried. That's fun. I like that. So what's your bright spot? My bright spot is I had my first physical therapy appointment yesterday. Okay. Because my back is a horrible mess. Was this partially inspired by the success of your acupuncture tattoo? No, but it's been my wife, she's been going to physical therapy for the last couple of months and so since then I've become a lot healthier

She's brought back all the stuff And so I'm I'm doing all kinds of different stuff now And so I finally went to the actual physical therapist instead of just secondhand stealing all of the information. They've been giving To my wife and it was fun because the appointment was like ah you've stolen all of our information you bastard But then so did they like backcharge you like pro rate all of this I like are you all it's like 10 grand. No, he didn't give me anything any like new stuff to do But he was like how's your back to it? And he just found that like my my vertebrae no good

Curved the rod like all all awful and he just put them into the right spot Right and then just press down on it and I can't begin to describe to you like first off I just made this noise in public. Oh Like that I made eyes it felt so good and then I was an inch taller for the rest of the day like it's that Was crazy how awful my back is? Yeah, and a lot of that's probably just posture He's just probably correcting something that you could have shifted yourself a little bit. Damage all across the board. Yeah.

Yeah. One of the things that I think I've learned from when I've gone to personal training and such is the importance of form. You know how to lift something, but form is important in order to like actually target the muscles Yeah, and I think that's what you're gonna get you've gotten this secondhand stuff from your wife So you know how to lift basically oh, but this person by pushing your back in a little bit is giving you that form Oh, no, I was laying on my I was laying on my back. He was just he was just touching my spine This is all damage from from

on my back. He was just touching my spine. This is all damage from my sport life. You're from sports. I'm from sports. And I did a lot of damage over that time period. So I'm basically just going to get my back pushed into place once a week. Pop. That's it. It's like the beginning of that Method Man episode of Poker Face. Which was a great episode. That had too many stars too many

stars and I'm gonna be honest it was uh it was maybe not the best resolution to one of their episodes not really great it was fun it was fun it was too many stars fun that method band is just fucking yoked yeah Yeah. Yeah. That was fun. And he's he's a delight. He was great. One of probably a very scary rapper to people in the 90s. Now just a delightful guest star on Cobra face. Just a baby. Yep. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We're gonna be talking about episode of Alex's show. We're gonna be talking about June 16 2025. All right. We're in a civil war. Alex has killed Gene Hackman. True. He has learned that the shooter in Minnesota is a fan of Trump. Right. But we've still not peeled off the bandage where he realizes that

he is also a fan of Infowars. Right. Right. Right. So we're logging that. Alex has decided this guy's probably an actor, the roommate of the shooter. Right. And so that's where we're at here. Gotcha. And we'll jump back in in a second here, but first let's take a moment to say hello to some new wonks. Ooh, that's a great idea. So first, Robin and Turkey, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much! Thank you. Next. Now, I'm not saying that Owen Shroyer enjoys flating roadkill on average, but with those dead eyes and the creepy excuse for a beard, I mean, look at him. If you were making a movie about a guy who sucks the farts out of dead seagulls, that's what he would look like on record. But the point is, the left would probably even say that the movie is based on true events. I'll leave it at that.

Thank you so much, you're an owl policy wonky. I'm a policy wonky. Thank you very much. Thank you. And winky wonky policy wonky. Thank you so much, you're an owl policy wonky. I'm a policy wonky. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to Frag Adactylobz. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go honky and mock and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. So we start off this episode and along with the various things that are going on in domestic affairs and Alex Jones info wars world There's also a conflict between Iran and Israel sure they're shooting things at each other right and so World War three is Right on the cusp right next to the Civil War that's currently happening here

There's a lot a lot of wars going on and so Alex has some comments about this, about which side he's on. He thinks he's on neither, but his position is a little simpler than that. So Israel is absolutely winning this war, and President Trump came out again today and said Iran needs to capitulate and sign the deals to get rid of their nuclear weapons program or they are going to face regime change. As I predicted Netanyahu is now out saying he wants regime change. That's the real goal. And much of the Iranian government, military and infrastructure is full of Israeli spies. Now why is that?

It's because the Shiite hereditary Mohammedan dynasty, it's royalty. Sounds like you're on the right track already. To religious royalty, to religious cult is not even Persian. They've inbred some with them, but they're Mohammed and they're literally all look exactly alike. Good start. And they got run out of Iraq and Saudi Arabia

by the Wahhabist in the last thousand years and a bunch of them ran to Iran, Persia, and now they've taken over there because that's what they do. Anywhere you bring Muslims in they end up taking over if you let them continue to read. I was wondering when we'd get there. They always say they're your friend until they're not. So as they hit 10% of the population they start expanding, attacking. They don't care if it takes 500 years they will take your property.

They will convert you or they will kill you. So, this is really at the heart of what Alex's position is. And I think it sometimes can be hard for folks to grasp, particularly because Alex pretends that he's in a war with the literal devil and everything is black and white for him. So, everybody kind of expects a simplicity and there's a complexity on the surface to what he's saying, but there's actually a very simple thing behind it. Yeah, no, it's very simple. He hates Islam.

Yeah. Israel is a different kind of issue than the black and white stuff for him because there's some people on the extreme right wing who support Zionism and the relationship between the existence of Israel and evangelical Christianity is intertwined. At the same time, a huge chunk of the extreme right wing are neo-Nazis, some of whom are fine with Israel existing if they can just send all the Jewish people there, while others are more into a final solution and extermination. The world Alex comes from has two different branches with different relationships with

Israel, and that's not the case on a lot of issues. It's okay to be a hardline anti-abortion zealot because there's no community of pro-choice extreme right wingers It's okay to be a fanatic against government regulation because the extreme right is never going to disagree with you there On this issue Alex knows that regardless of what he says He has a good chance of alienating some of his audience by being too in favor or too against Israel Which is why for the most part you don't see him take very strong positions on this. Yeah. The thing to understand is that he's not really pro-Israel, he's not pro-Iran, he's not even anti either of these countries.

He just hates Muslims, and he wants to enforce eugenic policies on them. In recent episodes he started to be a little bit more critical of Israel, probably because he can tell that his audience is suspicious of why he hasn't been that his position fundamentally hasn't changed He doesn't like Israel's actions, but he doesn't like Muslims existing right? That's the fundamental difference. Yeah, it's very simple Yeah, it's it is a strange combination of people who disagree on everything or and also agree on everything. And in a similar way, the two arguments from these people could be generalized as we hate the Jews, they're going to kill everybody and the Jews are going to kill everybody. That's why we got to give them their own state. You know, like it's a, it's a weird, like the, the far right relationship with us, yeah.

Right. It's very, I think it's difficult territory for Alex to navigate and that's why it's a very safe position for him to have of like, really what this is about is I hate Muslims. Fuck that. They shouldn't be allowed to breed. Right. Yep. Great.

It's safe for him to say that, given his audience. So in terms of Israel and Iran fighting with each other, Alex's take on this is kind of surprising, and that is that Iran should just probably give up. But I'll tell you this, if the Iranian regime is about to fall, Israel does not have the the the people in bunkers. If they don't use those, there's a good chance that Iran's gonna be able to get some of those nukes off the ground and into Israel and then you're going to get a nuclear war. So when Trump says we may have to get involved, you know, the satellites on the ground, people are watching all that. The Israelis haven't been able to get in or take out those mountain bases. And so I'm just

telling you tomorrow's news today because I understand strategy. You can be assured that those weapons systems and other ones that are even more advanced and super classified are aimed at Iran right now. What you just see on screen is a standard bunker busker that can take out facilities up to a half mile under ground. These DU meteor gun systems can take people out two miles under a mountain. So the Bunker Busters we're showing you are Tinker toys compared to what the US has had up in orbit since the late 70s at least. And if you ever want to know why the establishment wants me off the air, it's stuff like I just said, because what I told you is dead on. The reason I'm talking about it is the Iranians

need to understand what they're up against. need to understand what they're up against and need to give up. I understand the argument well that Israel just continue to stabilize them. It is what it is. I want the funding cut. Good argument. I don't want to be part of this. Israel is expansionist. It only lines up more countries against it, which it wants, so it can continue to control the region and hold governments of the world hostage

with nuclear war, just like the EU and NATO do with Ukraine. It's the same system, just different power groups. So I've been saying earlier in this episode that Alex isn't pro-Israel, and I need to refine what I mean by that. There are a lot of people who are vocal supporters of the Israeli government and stand by the actions that the country has made. These people are who I would call pro-Israel. Alex isn't that, but he's still kind of pro-Israel, but it's a conditional thing.

He wouldn't be pro-Israel if Trump and Netanyahu were fighting, but as it stands, the two sides to him are Israel and Muslims, and Alex really hates Muslims. What he's saying is a very pro-Israel message, but he's trying to muddy the water to make himself look more reasonable. He's saying that Iran should just give up because Israel has all this superior weaponry and they're essentially holding the world hostage with the prospect of nuclear war. Alex is saying remain a hostage, which seems really weird coming from him. And then at the end of the clip, he compares this to NATO and Ukraine, where NATO keeps

the fight going in Ukraine in order to antagonize Russia to hold the world hostage to possible nuclear war. This seems like the worst thing Alex could possibly do, because it makes it clear how differently he handles these two situations. There's zero ambiguity about Alex's support for Russia, and he has no problem picking aside there. Alex was just invited to speak at a Russian summit about the world in 2050, where he said that the only advice he had for them was to keep it up.

That's supposed to be just another globalist destabilization effort, but it would be impossible world in 2050 where he said that the only advice that he had for them was keep it up. That's supposed to be just another globalist destabilization effort, but it would be impossible to watch this show and think that he's a neutral observer, equally annoyed by NATO and Ukraine as well as Russia. Alex probably doesn't realize it while he's talking, but by using this as a comparable situation he's accidentally making it clear how different his positions are on these crises. Like he's not telling Russia give up, submit to the EU and NATO, remain a hostage.

This is a destabilization effort or whatever. He's actively going and doing like government summits with Sergei Lavrov and shit. Yeah, yeah, like you would imagine, or at least I imagine, a lot of the times you go, I am not necessarily interested in the government's choices so much as the actions that they are taking. You know, like, I don't particularly care

who's in the government if the government is killing all these people. First thing, you gotta stop the killing all those people thing, right? it was if it was a white president of Israel and he was like, hey guess what? We're also all Christians now. It's fine. And Alex would be like, yeah, keep going. You guys are the best Maybe maybe it's there's a lot to unpack, you know, like I think for him I don't know exactly what the sticking point is but I You know, like I think for him, I don't know exactly what the sticking point is. But I think that this whole, it's a globalist distraction meant to create tension and hold

people hostage to a nuclear war is a very convenient thing for him to use. And he uses it in both directions. Yeah. Like he doesn't mean any of that. No. There's not a prescriptive value to it. In the case of Ukraine and Russia, he supports the side that is antagonizing and possibly could kick off that nuclear war. Sure. And he's pretending not to in the case of Israel and Iran. Okay, Let's add the new social media is the only thing that matters, right? In a way,

Alex is saying, hey, all you people who hate the Jews, leave me alone. Don't do that. But nobody's mad at me if I say the Russians can do whatever they want. Yes. So, those are my two positions. Yeah. So, going back to a more domestic side of things. Yeah there was the news that broke that Alex accidentally covered the other day where a Bunch of non criminal immigrants sure are being arrested by ice Well, I can't believe that it's Alex needs to smooth this out a great

They had Trump has announced it and he always said he was going to do this. Get the hardened criminals first. The human traffickers, the smugglers, the drug dealers, the first is the great armed robbery murder. And deport them. But they've got different identities.

They're hiding out there, arresting up to 1000 of them a day. But Trump knows they're bringing all these illegals be a permanent underclass and to vote illegally and to change the electoral college proportionment in the the the the the the the

the the the the the the the the last week, there's an 800% increase in non criminal aliens. That's how the media spun it. They're all criminal here illegally, but meaning they don't have that on the map sheets. That's already up 800% in the last week. And so they're going and they're grabbing everybody

that's illegal and they're going to be deported. And this is what has to be done. And it's going to be painful. There's some nice people that are here. Sorry, illegal is part of a the security numbers to him. That's all come out the government did illegally. And this is part of a giant lawless operation. So you may individually be a nice person in many cases. I'm sorry. We can't survive as a nation by allowing 27 million people to be here illegally. You got to leave and the corporate media spinning it. Oh, look, Trump's hypocrite. He's actually increased people coming in on work visas. He's a hypocrite. He's actually increased people coming in on work visas.

Well, he always said that. You're not going to be here illegally, but we do need some foreign workers and some super populace are like, no, we need a total moratorium. I tend to agree with you. My point is that's not what Trump ran on. He does what he says, but you're about to see millions and millions deported. So you don't need for me to sit here. I don't think there's any value in preaching about how the Trump administration is doing

awful things in terms of immigration enforcement. It's criminal and it's meant to terrorize vulnerable communities. I'm interested in this clip because of what it highlights about how this propaganda works. In order to get the ball rolling and amass public support, Alex needed to demonize immigrants in such a way as to suggest that every person you see on the street that you suspect isn't from here is probably a mass murderer. The streets have been taken over by roving gangs of Hispanic military-aged men who are also getting free stuff from the government and are probably voting.

It was a terror campaign because it was meant to justify terror against immigrants. He was deploying that type of rhetoric that was needed for the audience to take proactive steps to bring about the situation we see in front of us now. He needed Trump to win in order for this white nationalist march to begin and a large part of catalyzing that was making the audience think that they were facing an existential threat from every immigrant. But now the program is rolling, and Alex and the Trump administration don't really need

that kind of support anymore. As the reality is setting in, people are starting to see people they know, people they go to church with, people they work with, being directly affected by the actions of ICE, and public sentiment is starting to drift against the Trump administration's approach to this issue. The people were promised that Trump would escalate his enforcement of the law, but it was to catch the mass murderers who had taken over the streets. This was a deal that people thought they were making. There were no mass murderers who had taken over the streets though, and most of this

enforcement is being used to snatch up the person you go to church with, or you might see at a bar, which is leading to disillusionment. People aren't going to buy the whole, they're just using extreme measures to catch the murderer's angle when people can see that's not who's getting arrested, and there's data backing that up. So Alex needs to deploy a softer kind of demonization, one that takes into account the empathetic feelings that you might feel for the person that you know who got snatched up by ICE. Sure, they might be a good person individually, but there's a bigger picture here.

There's a greater good that you just need to accept it. The earlier type of messaging Alex was using was meant to incite the audience, whereas this is meant to pacify. Because the actions Trump is carrying out based on the last incitement, they're horrifying to see play out in front of you. This is the messaging that he feels he needs to use in order to override the feelings of empathy that he's worried that the audience could experience. And what this basically is, is the terrorist edging paradigm. You know, you're working real hard to incite people and get them all and then you're getting too close to busting

and so you go into the pacification cool down period. And that's a disgusting thing to see in this context. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, ultimately, I guess the question of how far we're going to go is and whether he even needs to do that anymore You know a lot of the stuff that he does seems Archaic it feels like he could just be like hey listen everybody's going yeah, and everybody would be like well I guess that's what's happening. I

Wonder I wonder how much of his audience he Like legitimately stands to lose by just being like fuck it like I don't care yeah I don't care at all I don't care at all everybody is out until and then they can figure out a way back in I guess yeah I don't I don't I don't know I don't know if it's only force of habit that's making him rely on this like appeal to empathy. It doesn't seem necessary. His audience is fully on board with incredibly cruel shit. If not past him.

Yeah. Yeah, at this point. So, after this Alex gets into a long plug. That sounds right. It goes forever. And here's a little taste of it great You don't You don't go 99 you go 110

People you say why the code to say 110 percent. No, they didn't all the studies. They absolutely did not no one asked No one ever Cometized most of them. Nope. No one ever asked the average ever asked the average person lived twice as much way as you think you can you just have a governor so you don't hurt yourself that's why a football coach say oh you think you're going 100% why don't you go 110 all of a sudden you find i'll go 120% you see how it works can't no so that's what we're doing here. This is serious business. Theallyshowstore.com, I thank you for your support. Go get a good t-shirt.

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It's shit. That should not be how any capitalism at all. Listen, I need you to buy shit So get your ass in gear. Yeah, I think I think that there is a valid point to be made and you can Lift more than you think sure when adrenaline is running through you sure like if you're in an emergency or something like that A lot of times you're capable of more than you think possible. Yes, I think it's embarrassing to apply that to buying Shillageet. Yeah. Yeah, that does seem very bad I think Alex should say something like this and be like man to apply that to buying Shilla-jeet. Yeah, yeah. That does seem very bad. I think Alex should say something like this and be like, man, I can't believe my brain did that. I am desperate.

I am craving. I mean, can you imagine if some like, just sales exec at Target was in the commercial, like dudes, I need this, otherwise I'm gonna get fired. Okay, this is my plans for the holiday that you guys are ruining So buy some shit at Target and Alex does do a little bit of a check-in with like how things are going for him Yeah, because there's still the legal stuff floating in the background still and he's like

He does when he's saying like I need this right that looks bad Yeah, but he makes it look a little bit better is they're coming after my dad There we go. Not your dad not dr. Jones in his big naturals But you said that they would be coming after your dad someday. This must mean it's time He's desperate to save his dad and so it comes off a little more noble. He's a hero so we get back to the subject of the Minnesota lawmaker assassinations. Sure. And Alex has now learned that the guy was an Infowars fan. Great. I want to shift gears out of this into the no Kings protest. The man that they

reportedly captured is supposedly this Vance Bolter, who killed the state senator and her husband and then wounded critically the state rep and their spouse and the whole weirdness around this and how the quote roommate but he's also got a wife comes out says oh he's a Trump supporter and then oh also Alex Jones info wars boy just two weeks ago I said I wonder if there'll be some shootings of politicians and then or it's fake. I'm saying it's just a lie. Alex Jones, info wars, boy. Just two weeks ago, I said, I wonder if there'll

be some shootings of politicians and then magically, it's an Alex Jones listener. You got CBS News. Oh, did he watch any TV shows or podcasts? Well, who did he like? Who made him kill the people? Oh, and info wars.

Yeah. So. That that wasn't hard to predict. The same guy was in front of the news the I mean, is a Tim Walz appointee? His wife is a Democrat. He's been a Democrat, but oh, now he's MAGA. And everybody just takes what the roommate says as gospel. Alex's position on what he thinks about the Minnesota shooter's roommate is incoherent. On the one hand, Alex thinks this is really bad acting. But on the other hand, he says that he might believe

that he was really reading his roommate's texts to the media, like he might believe it. was really reading his roommate's texts to the media. Like he might believe it. Who knows? Right, it might be the greatest acting anyone has ever seen. These are not small differences. Like maybe this Starbucks cup has coffee in it or maybe it's decaf. They serve both of those things.

So if you have a Starbucks cup in front of you, it's sensible to assume that either might be in it. True. The path that coffee takes to get into the cup is the same path that decaf took to get there. In the case of the shooter's roommate, if he's acting, then there's reason for him to be acting. If he's acting, he's playing a role,

and someone has enlisted him to play that role. An actor telling news reporters that an accused murderer liked in forwards doesn't pop up in the same way that a person who believes that he's reading his roommate's last text to the news pops up. The paths are different. The latter person is a normal person who could exist, like a Starbucks cup that's filled with decaf. The actor person requires a complicated scenario, full of people doing things that they don't

normally do. It would be like if your Starbucks cup was full of minestrone soup. Someone had to do that. It's crazy that that happened. What's the acting supposed to be if this roommate was answering questions honestly to the news based on the information that he had at his disposal? What is the acting? What's the bad acting? Is it just he's hamming it up? He's pretending to be more emotional about these texts that he really got from his roommate?

What is the point that is trying to be made here? Why is he acting? Did he wanna be a star? I don't understand. Okay, okay, okay, how about this? Did that guy actually think he was Lincoln? Okay, okay, okay. How about this? did That guy actually think he was Lincoln. Can you truly believe that you are Lincoln? Wait the shooter's roommate? No, no What's his name the movie Lincoln? Oh the guy Daniel Day-Lewis Daniel Day-Lewis

Okay So if he's reading his lines, is it possible for him to actually believe that he is Lincoln while doing that no right? Yeah, so the bad acting would be he's bad at acting if if Daniel Day-Lewis Never came back, and he was like it was just Lincoln for good then maybe I would believe it that would be it But there is a point at which he stopped being And that leads me to believe he never truly believed himself to be Lincoln. So this guy would either have to eventually stop believing that he was reading his friend's texts or never have believed he was reading his friend's texts in the first place.

Yes. What I'm trying to say is this is something that Alex is trying to make look like a tiny little difference of like, hey, a little opinion difference. In reality, it is a shockingly huge chasm between these two things. It's the difference between being Daniel Day-Lewis and being Lincoln. Yes. Those are very two different things. Yeah.

So Alex plays the clip of the roommate talking about how his friend liked Infowars. Sure. I mean, literally, we can get the archivist or chase or anybody around here. Six months ago, two months ago, a month ago, last week, I said, are you gonna have somebody go shoot people during the no Kings demonstration and then blame Trump, blame me, blame the border patrol, blame ICE. Said it like five times last week.

And oh, now here it is. And CBS just knows what question to ask. I went the full exchange coming up, but here's just part of it. Watch the body language of the CBS reporter and then him, and then the way he kind of looks down like it's notes and says, oh, Infowars all guiltful. Yeah, yeah, Infowars.

I mean, this is ridiculous. Watch this. And did he listen to any particular podcasts or TV shows or anything online that concerns you? Well, you listen to info wars. Info wars. I kind of told them, said, well, it's like 50% truth. I kind of said, don't take everything

what they say for granted. It wasn't a real truth I mean they're on for some things but some things are way off Did you talk much about Trump and what did he say if so? Oh, it's the Trump supporter for Trump Do you like Trump? I like Trump Uh-huh, they all love Trump with their Democrat shirts and their appointments by Tim Walz. Very, very, very suspicious.

Got him with their Democrat shirts and their appointment by Tim Walz. Very suspicious. Well, he was wearing a shirt that said, I am a Democrat despite the words that I'm saying. That is an interesting shirt to wear. Yeah. And I think that Alex is a real piece of shit because his whole argument about Trump is that he transcends the left-right paradigm. And so Democrats, who are more populist in nature, he should think that they would gravitate

towards Trump. So this is all very stupid. Because in real life, they gravitated towards Trump. It's only in the fake ballots where the Democrats seem to have more people. Right, because they're all dead people. Yeah, everybody actually loved Trump. Yeah, 90% or something like that. 95%, if not more. 120%.

It's really interesting to hear him play this clip and him trying to make it suspicious. Because to me, it sounds like a very normal person whose friend likes Infowars. Yep, answering questions about their friend liking Infowars. Yeah. That's exactly what you would do basically. Yeah

Yeah, that guy I mean he'd like to you know, but you can't force him to not watch it So I was just kind of like hey buddy beach be careful with that I haven't been his friend for 30 years or whatever I just you know get along to get along you know get used to some stuff and you know You don't have to live up to my expectations and I don't have to live up to his yeah Maybe my expectations aren't that high either. I kind of like Alex every now and again Yeah, maybe maybe maybe what we're really talking about is I need higher expectations probably yeah So Alex just it feels like this just as thin soup mm-hmm, and there's a manifesto and they won't show us

The manifesto with the 70 people on the hit list and the police who I trust a lot more than these guys said hey the the the the the the the the the the

the the the the local police are in on that. But people all hooked into walls and the Democrats and you know the wife running around with a bunch of passports and guns and ammo, a car full of people with guns, ammo and they all got their passports. You could drive around Minnesota with your passports in your car. I don't know what's going on." This feels just unnecessary.

No one cares that the shooter was a fan of Infowars. Maybe that would have been an interesting topic 10 years ago, but Elon Musk does Hitler salutes at Trump rallies now and there are no consequences for it. No one. I do a show about Alex Jones and my perception of this is I don't think anyone cares. Yep. I agree. Like, beyond just the fact that I think that this story

has died down considerably in terms of the attention you think that a political assassination might get. Yeah. But then secondarily, I really think it's a bigger deal when Alex says something funny or like cries. Like that gets more attention than the fact that this guy was a fan of his I don't think anyone cares. I I mean if you if you stop and

Dwell on these two things if you stop and think Whenever Alex cries and says I've turned on Trump He gets a million articles about how great it is that people can turn on for funny But that's can turn on traffic or funny, but that's still For traffic, you know schadenfreude if you like or if he's angry at something they go look at how wrong this guy Ah, you know like that Tons of attention everybody benefits you got your clicks from all sources everybody loves it Him maybe being directly responsible for political assassinations?

What am I going to watch his show? Fuck off. Right. And that's what's really interesting about this. He still feels the need to do this. And I think it's more for that pacification and reassurance of the audience than it is like he's actually concerned about people thinking this guy was a fan of his. He just doesn't want the listener to associate with the motives that this guy clearly had.

It just feels like grasping at straws, too. Like, am I supposed to believe by this point Alex still hasn't learned that the people in the shooter's wife that she had in the car were her children? In order for me to believe that Alex doesn't know this, I'd have to also accept that Alex is wholly uncurious about this story and he's trying to give the impression on his show that he's very curious about it. Something stinks. We gotta get to the bottom of this. Here's the thing, right? And I think this is maybe my personal failing, right? But for him to not have been the exact thing that he was, right, for this conspiracy to have been

whatever it needed to be to function that wound up with this result, require believing so many different unusual and borderline impossible things happened in a row that even if you believed it to be true, it's just too much effort. Go with the official story and move on with your life, right? Sure.

Think about how much work it is to try and say this shit instead of being like, well, the obvious happened. You know? Yeah. Well, and I think that, I mean, like I like, I don't want to say, don't be curious and don't question things or anything like that. No, but I do think that when you have, um, like a clear demonstration of someone who's doing that behavior in the part of Alex and in order to make it in any way acceptable to do that, you have to lie and exaggerate and fudge details

like the wife is in the car with all these people in their passports you know you have to do that in order to justify your quote-unquote suspicious totally and I think that that comes off poorly yeah especially if you could just be like hey isn't this weird and then move on yeah a lot and like oh this is weird click click click Oh, let me read about this. Oh that makes sense. It was there. It was our kids move it on right done It's the it's the difference between having a sincere curiosity and a drive towards like Questioning events that happen in the world sure and just wanting to use that costume

self-motivated need yeah, yeah, so Alex is deep in in wanting to use that costume. Self motivated. Need. Yeah. So Alex is deep in in suggesting that the roommate of the shooter is an actor and he goes to the well that he loves to go to. Right. So is Vance Bolter a Patsy? Well, I know this all the available evidence is he's a Democrat his wife's a Democrat to who is this available Democrat oh but he likes Trump and the shooter supposedly likes Trump the lead shooter and he really likes

Infowars and then some comments about Infowars well I know it's not really the He's got a little string around his neck a fake scratch of makeup on his face singing 23 below zero at 2 30 at night He went to subway that wasn't even open and that two men jump out put MAGA hats on him poor bleach on him Call him the n-word and say MAGA I Said that's fake and I was right Now I'm not saying this guy's reading off a script. In what way are you not? Yeah, that's crazy. He said at the end, oh, you screamed over,

is I'm not saying that he's an actor, but it's my opinion that he is. And that's cool. So the Jussie Smollett incident happened over six years ago and he got in serious trouble for what he did. He served time in jail and had to pay some heavy fines and the only person still talking about this is Alex. And I would argue, and I don't know if it's necessarily wrong for this, you know, like I think he suffered more consequences than Alex has.

Yeah, 100%. And, and like it is a crime to file a false police report and that stuff. So, you know, there are consequences that should come along with that. But I think it is funny-ish that he had to serve some time in jail, and Alex has not faced any kind of consequences like that for the things that he does. Yeah. Jussie Smollett wasn't a weird guy who was sincere, but just seemed like he was reading off a script.

He was a guy who carried out a hoax. This is the opposite type of example Alex should be pulling out based on the argument he's trying to make about this roommate. Yeah. Alex is saying that he's not saying the roommate is an actor but it's his opinion that he's an actor and I would reply to that what's the difference. This is a show where we're supposed to think that Alex knowing what time it is in the middle of the night is proof that God chose him to fight the devil. So his opinions tend to carry a lot of weight. A normal person could make a distinction between a fact they're reporting and an opinion, but this show only exists because Alex has made those things the same.

They're indistinguishable. Yeah. Also, Alex has very clearly said that people should call David Carlson in that clip I'm not sure if he meant to say that but he can't be that irresponsible He literally said the guy's name and said let's call him I don't even know how to respond to that other than like why not let's see At a certain point Thelma and Louise are going off the cliff so fucking go man hit the gas Let's see how far this can go go crazy. I don't want to support that I don't I don't I'm not saying you should do that right?

But it seems like that might it might it seems like the head state that he's in yeah, it's yeah, it's crazy It's crazy, so he decides to make fun of Carlson a little bit And then pull it back in a little bit like hey leave the guy alone wild I don't want to say anything more and implicate you in any way because you You guys don't know anything about this But I love you guys and I'm sorry for all the trouble this has caused. Wow. So we're just all learning with an hour and a half of it

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This is insane. I do think that Alex is on the right track for what he's doing though with an idea of like I want to get this guy on the show I want to hear all about this because then that makes him like free rein If he agrees to come on the show, you can make a target out of him anything you want Yeah, and so I think that Alex is on the right track in terms of like how can I make this somewhat? Excusable now I'll exploit him. Anything you want. Yeah. And so I think that Alex is on the right track in terms of like, how can I make this somewhat excusable? Oh, I'll exploit him. Yeah. But this sucks. Yeah. Shitty behavior. Yep. So Alex doesn't learn from his past mistakes, clearly. Sure. He's just doing similar things to what he did vis-a-vis Sandy Hook. I mean, in a sense, you would have to face negative consequences for it to be a mistake. Right.

Right? So he hasn't learned from his not mistakes. Right. Yeah. And in this next clip, there's another thing that should have some pretty serious consequences that weirdly he hasn't faced any for. Crazy. And I was given Vegas Patsy information that I had to sign on disclosure with law firms

and the feds got involved and I'm not supposed to talk about it and I agreed not to so I'm not going to cut. Let's just say I know a lot and that was a Saudi Arabian operation with the deep state. The trouble over there stage a coup against those guys and moving them. And so the Crown Prince is on board right now. That's a good thing. You're under arrest. Wow.

I have this non-disclosure agreement that I signed with a law firm and let me break it for you. I like the idea that you would be out at a bar with somebody and you're like, well, I can't talk about that. I had to sign a non-disclosure agreement with work, but Alex could be on the everywhere and just be like, ah, whatever. I'll tell you without any prodding. Nope.

Within 30 seconds. Yep. This is wild. He can't not. He can't not. Yeah. I signed a non-disclosure agreement when I got fired by Groupon. Yeah.

And I had a joke about it that I would do on stage. Yeah. And it was because I didn't care. Yeah. Like whatever the consequences were, like I, I don't, I didn't care. Yeah. Um, this is different. This is the feds. This is the feds. Alex signed something according to his story. He is in deep trouble. Unreal. Yeah. Good thing it's all made up. Yeah, that is helpful. That is helpful. Yeah. So one of the big things that Alex is pushing on this episode is trying to be like, I predicted that this shooting in Minnesota was going to happen. Like, I called it.

I mean, called and called for are very different things. Very close, though. I mean, they can be very close, you're right, and they might be identical in this letters in this regard They may be identical But he's he's very invested in being like I predicted this in order to be like it's the globalist script Sure, I called it in advance. You know, this is all fake and shit So he works on that angle here Vance Balter arrested last night Turn himself in out in the field to the SWAT team and he's an appointee by walls.

His wife's a Democrat. I'll show you a registration. All of that. And then we are say no, that the police car he had had a bunch of no Kings flyers in it. And then what was I predicting? Attacks on illegal alien demonstrations, black churches that were pre-programming that and or governor Whitmer kidnapping or shooting of Democrat politicians blamed on MAGA.

The Democrats would shoot their own people and blame us. Now I don't know exactly what's going on here, but Vance Bolter's wife, the police thought it was suspicious in a car full of other people with guns and ammo and passports. So they all had passports. Oh, these other people. So it's very possible that Alex said that there could be another Whitmer type of event, but he's lying by saying that that was the main focus of his predictions. He was constantly screaming about false flag mass shootings and car bombings at immigration

or Gaza protests and about attacks on black churches. If you listened to his show in the months prior to this, these predictions would have been beaten into your head. And now what Alex is doing is that he's trying to insert what actually happened into that set of predictions. This is a little sleight of hand trick that he uses to retroactively make himself look like a prophet, because if you're listening to this show, you'll hear him say that he's been predicting these things for months, and you'll remember him predicting the shootings at protests.

You'll be sure that he predicted that a ton, so by grouping these shootings at Democrats' houses, Whitmer type events, by grouping it in with that, Alex is banking on the audience applying that memory to the whole collection of predictions when the thing that he was stressing the most did not happen and was part of his weird race war obsession. So that's what he's doing. He's trying to be a prophet in reverse. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like a cheat. It is. You know, that's why. Because it is. Because when you when you predict something, it's in the future, which you don't know, which is famous about the future. You don't know it. Right. Right. But if you did know it, that's cheating. I think everybody instinctively knows this. I think if you say like if we were just to sit down for like eight hours and I

Were just to predict everything sure I was just like oh my god things are gonna blow up chickens gonna be so expensive in the future Right guess is gonna go away You know like I could just come up with a hundred fucking things sure many of them may be even contradictory sure I could later edit The good stuff together see that's what we're talking about. This is why that is cheating. All all good profits need a timestamp. You need a you need a beginning, right? When it was said and when it's going to happen. None of this like vague as you need to be holding up a newspaper. Absolutely. And a quarter for scale. You know what? I'm starting to think that maybe it's it's not been proven because there's so many things

you would need to do. Prophets are just, they just don't have the time. Really? Well here's what's interesting about Alex. He does a radio show. Yeah. And so these prophecies and things, they're all captured on the tape. It seems like he would have to be, I mean it would be demonstrable that he was right

all the time, right? Well and here he has a clip of him predicting this. Great. Perfect. So he plays that in order to strengthen his case. Excellent. So let's play the June 12th prediction. They had a couple others from the week before where I was, and I don't know if they, I haven't

seen these yet, I'm just told what's in them. I know I said last week at least twice, somebody shoots some Democrats up and then magically they find their other phone or laptop and they're a big listener of the show. And that's what we're now seeing. So wow, what a coincidence that I'd say that just last week. And now that's what we're treated to. Here it is. There are hardcore Antifa subgroups that are 100% funded by the CIA,

and I showed the documents earlier, I'll go back over those with the new information, that are tacitly taking responsibility and cheering everybody on for bombings, fire bombings, assaults, attacks all over the country, hardcore communists, they're almost all academics, and they get direct funding from Alexander Soros, and you can prove that, and you know cops are going to get killed in the next week. So first off, this clip from the 12th doesn't predict the Democrats are going to get shot.

He's saying cops are going to get shot. Right. This is a different prediction entirely. Yeah. Second, and more importantly, this clip from the 12th is edited. The original context of what Alex was saying was about him supporting police violence. And he was trying to make excuses for Eric Adams flagrant corruption

because he's cooperating with Trump and ICE. Here is the larger context of that same clip that Alex just played. And I was driving to work one day to be early. It's like 5.45. Did you know that time? In South Austin and cut off to get some gas. And there were homeless people running around

with baseball bats, faces bleeding, half naked, killing each other in the streets. And it was like I was in a zombie apocalypse. I'm sorry I'm ranting. I got to get to the nose. It's just they flipped a switch. They defunded the police. They started prosecuting cops that defended themselves. And the police tell us all this, too.

I mean, I see if the cops tell us all this too. I mean, I see it. The cops tell me all this. And if a cop, if it's anywhere questionable, you know, where a suspect overpowers the police, gets out of handcuffs, they try to grab the cop's gun. It's on video. This is Kason Austin. Cop pulls the gun away, shoots the guy. Those eight guards, they indict you.

Who's going to go do jobs like this? You ever been out in the middle of the night and had five dudes jump you? And then you pull your gun and shoot one and then they say, well you shouldn't have done that, we're gonna indict you. Well you go out there in the middle of the night and these things then. So, they know what they're doing to break down society. So I'm going to get to the Iran situation coming up, but I'm going to hit the really big domestic thing right now. Okay. There are hardcore anti-fuss subgroups that are 100% funded by the CIA, and I showed the

documents earlier, I'll go back over those with the new information, that are tacitly taking responsibility and cheering everybody on for bombings, fire bombings, assaults, attacks all over the country, but particularly New York. And they're promising because Eric Adams pledged that he would help Homan and he's done a half ass job, but he's not having the cops block the feds doing constitutional duty. So because he's in a balancing act in New York, but he of all the blue cities, he, you know, did what he said he was going to do overall. And for that, they had the fake political charges that Biden put on and dropped. People go, oh my God, that's corruption. No, that's how stuff works.

I mean, you can be a mobster. Well, those are not exclusive. You serve a year in prison or you go free. Witness Protection Program. So Adams didn't even do anything with the indictments on him, comparatively, even if it was like money or something, they didn't have proof of it. So now these groups are telling New York, we're going to kill the police. And they've got OpenX accounts and Instagram accounts.

And these are really dangerous people. Hardcore communists, they're almost all academics. And they get direct funding from Alexander Soros. And you can prove that and you know cops are going to get killed in the next week. So that- They've come very close already. So that clip has now been edited to retroactively make it look like Alex is predicting that

the globalists are going to kill some democratic politicians and blame him, except even the edited version doesn't make that point. But there's still all of this stuff edited out to change the image of what Alex was saying in that clip. This is all an act and everyone involved in producing this knows that they're lying. You cannot play this edited clip of Alex making this prediction that isn't even the right prediction without knowing, oh, we are fucking lying. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, okay. So here's the thing that confuses me about situations like this with people like this, right? There is, when a thing is a thing, it's a thing, or it's not a thing. Not very complicated, you know? That kind of thing. You can become closer to that thing, but it will still not be that,

it doesn't matter how close the frog gets, if it only ever jumps halfway, it's never going to get there, you know? Like, this guess is more close to something that would be a prediction that would be what he was saying. Right. But it is still not the thing. No. Even if the editing that they carried out worked, it wouldn't achieve the goal. It still wouldn't be the thing. But it's close enough for the background static that looks like proof that Alex's audience demands

Yeah, and so it feels kind of like he's predicting something that's close to what happened. Yeah, I guess so it's it's a it's an act of Gross manipulation that I agree with you even if successfully fully pulled off Should not convince a rational person. It's still not the thing. Even if you edit it as well as you possibly could to curate it as well as possible, you don't have the words necessary to make the thing you want. You can deprive the original of context, but you would need to add to it to make it what you need it to be. That's great.

Here's something that occurs to me, right? This is a thing that occurs to me now because we live in the present that he doesn't have back then. But you can no longer say that like intelligence agencies are working against Trump, right? Ah, because the simplest and most obvious thing that any intelligence agency working against Trump could do would just be release the Epstein list. Right? Even you have it. You had it before Trump was president.

Maybe. You know, like you've got to have it. Yeah. Right? No, look, that's not even necessary. Like the shit that Alex believes that intelligence agencies are capable of, everyone would be dead. Yeah. Like not everyone in the world, but all of these people who pose, everyone would be dead. Like not everyone in the world,

but all of these people who pose a threat would be dead. Like they have shaped the course of history for the last 250 years or whatever. What are we doing with CI people paid academics? Come on, get out of here. So Alex keeps on playing the clip from the 12th on his show, on this 16th show He plays it multiple times. No, no, he plays more of it

It goes on and I think as he's playing it he starts to realize like shit. This doesn't work This isn't actually And I think even he realizes it and has to bail okay, and then Trump sends in the military and Then is it and has to bail okay and then Trump sends in the military and then behind the military behind ice from an apartment or from a van or from a high rise or from a their favorite thing in these would be a parking garage a Trump supporter supposedly he'll be found dead they will be found dead. They'll be found dead, maybe three or four of them, will open fire into these crowds. And then that gives the pretext, because all of this,

as I told you, will blow up in their face once they start the riots, unless they have the final ingredient. And it's not just I can extrapolate that out with deduction, knowing the enemy operations over the decades The color evolutions like operation gladi on Europe. That's what this is Now let's stop there. There's a lot more of this. They're called pretty good ones. I know I specifically said what Good governor Whitmer style kidnapping shoots of Democrat politicians

Then find the shooter and they're a Trump in full or supporter supporter. I know that's there you heard it so there you go. There you go. There you go. I did it. I didn't do it but I did it. You know I did it. Alex has lost a step because there's a very easy way to do this and that is the reason that the no Kings flyers were in the car was that he was planning to do exactly what I predicted in that clip and the globalist stopped him because I predicted it. Done. Boom. Done and done.

Yes. Every time. This is not a problem, but he doesn't prepare at all. It's so lazy. I like that this now gives the impression that it's possible for prophets to have like B side prophecies. You know, like that one was pretty good. That's not my top tier prophecy shit. You know, like that one was like, yeah, you are going to get some McDonald's, but that's

not really that good of a prophecy because you were probably going to go anyways. Right? Sure. Sure. Yeah. It's it's not a greatest hits. It's not the best. It's not the best.

We can't all do Roxanne. Okay. You know what? Like, the people who wrote the Bible, they didn't just live, like, the time they wrote the Bible. You know, like, they had longer lives. They probably wrote other stuff. Okay, okay. I was gonna say that. Right. Right, right. There's probably a lot of stuff that's fine. Sure, yeah.

Yeah, like all the letters to the Thessalonians didn't make it into the final Bible. You think? I think there's probably some more back and forth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like how's Terry? How's she doing? You know, like those would be there, but it's not in the letters. Right, right. Or like response letters. Absolutely.

Absolutely. How fucking dare you? Fuck you. We'll do Jesus our own way. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex takes calls and a lot of them are boring and dumb and being like, Oh, I can't believe they're trying to pull this stuff and blame you who cares yep it's shocking to hear people who are falling for that kind of nonsense mmm but there is a heartbreaking side of this too and that is embodied by this caller whose wife is an immigrant and great has a question for Alex immigrant and has a question for Alex. Oh, hey, I was going to talk to you finally been a long time listener. Yes, sir.

I wanted to call and talk about the illegal immigration with you know, I know you know, there's, there's a whole lot of good people that are here. And I want to know if there's anything like I married, I married a an illegal and I want to know if there's any proactive steps that we could take to maybe get on a list of, you know, leave this one alone or whatever. We've been in the system trying to get, we've gone through two lawyers, we've spent thousands of dollars,

and just the speed of the government. Well, it goes back to lawyers for decades. They've kept it broken on purpose. So if you legally try to get here, it's super hard. But if you come illegally, the Democrats came out just last week, what we already knew, they were giving them all Social Security numbers. Right. And then the NGOs give them other people's Social Security numbers to steal money and the NGOs keep part of it. The crime is so massive, the gangrene is so bad, that they're going to have to hurt some people that aren't bad because if they don't, the whole country goes down.

But sorry, life's got to get hurt. So Alex should realize in the moment that he's talking to this guy, that the fact that his wife does not have access to all of these things that illegals are supposed to get is kind of proof that his claims are bullshit. This guy is living the experience of trying to do things quote unquote the right way. And he's saying, how do I make clear that we're the good ones? My wife is OK. And Alex is saying, you can't. Buddy.

Sorry. Sorry. You've been referencing a lot of books, I bet, for a long time that would explain very clearly how this situation goes. Yeah. It's not good for you. No. No.

And I think that Alex's response is more or less like I don't care it should I mean it if it were honest it would be like yeah yeah we want her gone too right you shouldn't have married her you're ruining the blood hey you know dumb dumb that's the goal right yeah I mean it's it's like when I talk about a bigger project here and there's a larger goal. What do you think I'm talking about? I mean, it's, okay, I get it. Nobody ever gets a good moment with their con man where the con man goes, I was conning you. Right. You know, that doesn't happen. Yeah.

But sometimes you have to be like, shit, I was getting conned, you know? You should. You should. And as this call goes on, I really think that that is what this caller should be feeling. the people that are going to be deported. We've been married for seven or eight now.

We've spent thousands and thousands of dollars. Now we're at risk of getting home. He says he's not going to split up families. What does that do to my family? Is he going to deport me and my

kids and grandkids? Or is he going to split my family up? It's by the Democrats flooding at least 20 million illegals the last four years in they will steal every future election if we don't deport millions. So that is the crisis that they put us into of total lawlessness. So fuck your family. It's really heartbreaking to hear a call. I mean, you have to presume sincerity, I guess, on the part of the caller is like, if someone's just making up a situation then you know You can't prove that either way, but assuming that this person is coming from a sincere place. Yeah, this story is

Card-breaking. Yeah, it is someone who has brought about and advocated for their family's own Terror. Yeah terror being terrorized. Yep and advocated for their family's own terror. Being terrorized. And he's calling this person who has endorsed that and convinced him that it's necessary that his family be terrorized. And he's like, hey, can we get a pass on the terror? Alex is like, no, no.

I mean, you know, it is it is something that I think people imagine in themselves that idea of like, I will compromise my belief systems for the greater good, you know, like if I'm if I'm put into this situation where, you know, like, fuck it, like during the civil rights struggle, you know, like I want to go further, I want to go deeper, but you know what? We've got this compromise, this is going to do the best for the greater good and time is going to go on and we're going to be able to keep fighting and keep doing this stuff, but I am going to sacrifice what I personally believe for the greater good, right?

And then to see the greater good come about. That's it's, you know, it's what you're supposed to dream of really. To sacrifice your belief system and then to discover that not only have you not made the greater good, but you've made everything worse and now you're going to be punished for it is just horrifying. Like to do that to somebody like this guy, we have to assume sincerity in some, in some nearer later. This guy truly believes that while he was doing all of this horrible shit that everybody told him was going to come back and fuck him up.

Well no, he couldn't have imagined that because it was just for the mass murderers that had taken over the streets and all the gangs who had taken over cities and stuff. You know, that's all we're trying to do here. We're trying to make sure that that's taken care of. And also, fuck your wife. And your family doesn't matter to me because we have a white nationalist project that we're

trying to advance here. Yeah. You know, what sucks about that, right, is that if you were talking to that guy two months ago... He probably sucks. He'd say the same thing that you just did though. Like I would say like, this is gonna come back and fuck you up

and yada yada yada. Yeah, he probably has a lot of beliefs that are fucking horrible and we wouldn't see eye to eye on. Right. But it's still possible to empathize. Well, I mean, but just then also realize he wasn't even using his own words.

He's saying shit that people were lying to him about. He's just repeating lies from somebody else. Yeah, because people like Alex had been successful in inciting this level of fear that got him to the point where He would essentially vote in someone who would kick his wife out of the country. Yep So it's just bleak you get calls like this periodically and like, it's very difficult to hear something like this and Alex's response being so, I don't really care. Kind of like, yeah, sorry, sorry you're going through this, but it's just kind of what we have to do.

I mean, you know, it is tough. It's tough because it's a little bit, it's a little bit like if you've talked to a grandparent who's been cons, who's been taking in for a couple of grand, you know, like there's, there's people at the Walgreens who buy these gift cards and they have to put up signs now like if somebody's asking you to buy gift cards, it's probably a scam, you know, like that's what it is because so many people get scammed and at the same time you're like Nobody from the government is dick balls 6969 man, you should know this shit. Well, I don't know. I mean

Now we are you know now it is but at the same time it is like this guy Believes some shit, but you should fucking know you should have fucking known Well, I think you should have fucking known he should have and you wish you wish you would know. Yeah, um, but um a feature of this propaganda and stuff is also making you feel like you're not going to be the target of the Extreme escalation that you're trying to put on other people. And anybody who's listened to Alex's show for longer than a few years would know that that is a big part of his world. Should have fucking known. Yeah.

Yep. The whole 2009 PNAC or MIAC document and all of this stuff is, you know, hey, you want to do all this stuff to terrorists, it's just gonna be turned around on you Everyone should have known better and Alex should know better, but he doesn't cuz he doesn't care You only hear the stuff you wanted to hear from those people you know and they only say what is profitable crazy So Alex has another topic that he wants to cover mm-hmm That's Bilderberg cuz Because Bilderberg happened. And he has vague memories of covering it in the past.

And so he's trying to cover it on the angle of like, they're trying to bring in socialism and communism based on climate change. That's what they're doing. Back at it, huh? We're going to 2001 on this change. That's what they're back at it huh? Yeah. We're going we're going to 2001 on this shit. Yeah and so he's going down this path and the first thing that he ends up talking about as evidence of this is Christia Friedland

the Canadian politician giving a commencement speech. And I thought this was very strange. So here's a key member of the WUF's Board of Trustees and Deputy PM of Canada, Christina Freeland, openly declares war on the concept of democracy in the name of tackling climate change. Here she is. Our time of tranquility is over and we are living in an age of change. We're living through what President Biden on a visit to my country in March called an inflection point. A time of transformation, he said, that comes once every five or six generations.

Super turning. Now, like it or not, you are graduating into that inflection point. What is this inflection point? What is this upheaval which is going to the roots of humanity itself? There are many ways to describe this transformational moment, but I think they all come down to one fundamental question. Does capitalist democracy still work? That's the question being posed around kitchen tables in my country and this one, as parents

wonder if our children can count on capitalist democracies' essential promise of a future more prosperous than our present, it is the question being posed by our shrinking glaciers and our warming oceans, which are asking us, wordlessly but emphatically, if democratic societies can rise to the existential challenge of climate change Now yeah climate change is the reason everything's gonna collapse not them turning off the energy Not them dismantling industrial civilization not them giving you college degrees that are near worthless or worthless headline Wall Street Journal young graduates are facing an employment crisis because there's no jobs for the worthless degrees they've gotten. So they're the ones dismantling the human infrastructure on record. Now they come as the savior and say getting rid of people's freedoms is going to be the answer to countering this.

And you notice almost all the people in the crowd graduating, I'd say 70% are women. That's because in the US about 65% of college graduates graduating are women, upwards of 70 in Canada. So first off, this is a commencement speech that Christia Freeland gave in 2023 at Fenway Park. It's a Northeastern university in Boston. So I don't know what Canadian graduates' demographics have to do with this. Second, if you've ever heard a speech before, you probably wonder if her speech includes an answer to the question, does capitalist democracy still work?

Probably not. Literally right after where Alex's clip cuts off. She says, quote, now these are of course, of course, huge and fundamental challenges, but I'm not here to counsel despair or retreat. Yeats famously said of another generation that came of age in a liminal moment that the best lacked all conviction while the worst were full of passionate intensity. Spend a few minutes on social media and you may be tempted to adopt that as an apt description of our time, but I disagree. Indeed, I disagree with passionate intensity. You have to be a real dipshit to hear that snippet of her speech and think that the answer was that no, capitalist democracies have run their course.

You have to be so stupid to hear that and not understand, hey, what's the format of a commencement speech? Third, that clip is edited. Here is the clip that Alex played. Here's the portion of clip that Alex played. Here's the portion of it that Alex played. Does capitalist democracy still work? That's the question being posed around kitchen tables in my country and this one. As parents wonder if our children can count on capitalist democracies essential promise of a future more prosperous than our present?

It is the question being posed by our shrinking glaciers and our warming oceans, which are asking us wordlessly but emphatically. So curiously, here is that section unedited. That's the question being posed around kitchen tables in my country and this one. As parents wonder if our children can count on capitalist democracies essential promise of a future more prosperous than our present. It is the question being posed in the muddy and bloodied trenches of Bakhmut as Ukraine's brave Democrats resist the invading forces of Putin's dictatorship.

And it is the question being posed by our shrinking glaciers and our warming oceans, which are asking us wordlessly but emphatically. So part of that editing out has to do with it being anti-Putin. But the other part is that it overcomplicates the narrative that Alex is trying to sell. He's trying to paint the picture that Freeland is saying that because of climate change, everyone needs to give up capitalist democracy. And by editing out the part where it makes it clear that climate change was just one item on a list of challenges we're facing?

Alex has created a straw man for him to argue with because he's a lying, lazy dipshit. Also, it is just funny that the part that's cut it out there is the part that's critical of Putin. Yeah, that is fun. And you know why that's funny? Because Alex has a guest at the end of this episode. Victor Boot is a very famous, well-known Russian. He is a minister in a regional government,

the leader in his party. He's a former political prisoner here in the United States for 10 years, where he listened to me in prison. That's how he knows the show. And he's really respected around the world and in Russia. He can really give you the insight into how Russia sees the Iran-Israel conflict. You know, fear is a kind of respect.

There's something to be said about a respect there. Yeah, you do get a lot of respect as an arms dealer, selling weapons to terrorist groups and shit. So yeah, Alex has Victor Boot back on. I'll give you one guess as to what his agenda is. Probably saying that it's time for Putin to give up the the fighting no you're shaking your head No, I feel like that's a good starting point. It's mostly Russia's cool. Oh, he hasn't gone pacifist Oh wild you know he has an interesting take on the Iran Israel thing to yeah, Iran is cool. That's crazy Yeah, why I wouldn't have expected that from a

guy like Victor boot So you know what strikes me? What's that? Right, there's. The brazenness of this? No, no, no, no, this video. Who is catching, you know, like, there are millions of people now who exist online

who are just searching for shit like this. Just searching for shit like this. And then they grab a little clip and then it shows up because Alex desperately needs shit like this. A two year old commencement speech that's been edited. Yeah, there's, everybody all the time is not doing this. Like it is so crazy to me that they're using these types of clips to prove how pervasive and how obvious all this stuff is and then it's like a commencement

speech from two years ago that no one would ever have known even happened. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And doesn't really matter. Doesn't mean anything. I think that it's funny that Alex traffics in that kind of information and then yells about how the dinosaur media always lies and all this inaccurate information. You're pulling dumb shit from Twitter and Desperately licking Russian boots. Yeah, absolutely Fucking insane and the reason that I think that this is a good place for us to wrap up

Is that at the beginning of this episode? We're talking about Alex trying to make Iran and Israel and Russia and Ukraine these kind of comparable situations Yeah, where it's globalist destabilizations trying to hold the world hostage and what have you he has Victor boot on and Launders his reputation. Yeah, because he's a high-level Russian guy We want friends with well respect right is there an equivalent of that in the situation with Iran and Israel? Hmm. It's not. There's not because it's different. Yeah. He is a very big, big fan of big fan of Russia. Wild. Loves that shit. I think you should go pacifist. I think that would be fun. Because there's no reason for Victor

Boot to really give a shit about info wars You know like he doesn't care like oh, what if they don't invite me back on? I'll be fine. You know like Just one day fuck around with Alex. Just really fuck with him because I bet he wouldn't he wouldn't fight back I think you could fuck around with him for sport, but I also think that I Wouldn't be so sure if there's no consequences. Well, I mean, for this is a guy. Do you think that Putin or do you think the higher ups are going to give a shit if he's fucking with the info wars? I think he's there for a reason.

Oh, I see, because here's what I think. I think he maybe did listen while he was in prison and he's just having fun. I don't think so. What could they possibly need for from Alex? In this case definitely pushing the Russia is great and Iran is great. Sure but I mean come on. I think that there are very few platforms that would book Victor Booth for an American audience. See that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Right? Right. Okay. I'm I I think here's what I think. Okay. Real good chance he's fucking with Alex. Right. Real good chance. Right. But also it's very difficult for me to think of

hey here's this guy who's an international arms dealer who was a held prisoner and then was exchanged for Britney Grinier in a high profile prisoner exchange that the Russian government worked out. He's gone back. He is now a politician, elected official in Russia, and he's just randomly for fun going on info wars and spreading geopolitical propaganda. Yeah, it seems difficult to imagine that that

Path leads to a guy who's just fucking with Alex Steve pachanix style. Yeah, it seems more like hey Here's a here's a media opportunity Alex is desperate and will put on anybody. Yeah. Especially if they're Russian. I don't know. I wonder, here's a question I have for you. I think if he went against Russian foreign policy on Alex's show, he might get a visit. I think you're right there.

I think if he out and out was like, Russia's bad, I think that's definitely a different story. I think if he was supporting Ukraine, he might not be in office much longer. I think that's definitely a different story. I think if he was supporting Ukraine Yeah, that's definitely true Here's what I'm thinking right now that I'm now that I'm past it Do you think Victor boot is like I was exchanged for a WNBA player? You know what I mean? Like he's a merchant of death. Yeah Yeah, yeah,, you know, yeah But you know, I think even he could understand celebrity. Oh, it's nice to be out

No, but also that sir Brittany Grinney was a high One of the best one of the most famous absolutely fantastic. She's very good. You know, yeah I don't think that's diminishing your value as of the Lord of War I'm saying that I don't know what it would mean for for an ego That's invested in being a merchant of death, you know, yeah Yeah, I would be fine with I'd be like hooray about a person, you know But I don't have the ego necessary to sell weapons of mass destruction to be he seems fine He does seem fine with it seems fine Um I think that I would if I were him mm-hmm which I would never be obviously But should I find myself in that position it's possible

I would definitely go pacifist because I think I have plumbed the depths of violence You probably got as much as you're gonna get out of it right? I nailed it. It's time to move on I have gotten a second lease on life and Not much more interesting things can happen with guns. Really I've done all of the stuff honestly Maybe I'm just over it. I got away clean. I'm over it. I did my time. It's time to be a vegan Yeah, it's time absolutely incense totally I don't know what else is hundred percent Pacifism and we veganism and weed that makes sense. Yep hard not to see the the parallels Anyway, Alex is a clown and we we we may need to

Speed up a little bit because the Epstein stuff is you know Yeah, shit's move shit has moved fast. I mean all of this feels totally irrelevant even though it's very important Yeah, it is it is a question of like How important is geography really in terms of how we process things? Because the way that this assassination has felt like, it's felt like people are treating it the same way they would treat a political assassination in a different country. Is it really just like, oh, wow, Minnesota's Minnesota, it's its own place. Because we would have imagined for the longest time if there was a political political Assassination in the United States. It would be huge. Well, it was I mean Gabriel Gabriel Giffords when they tried to shoot her

Absolutely, like that wasn't even a successful assessment. We still remember her name Everything about this years later. Totally. I don't know that People are going to remember Melissa Hortman's name as like a really important like inflection point in in politics and that is weird that feels very weird to me wild yep it does not feel like the environment that I remember growing up in yep it feels like this would have been a moment of sorrow for the country and yeah it really does feel like there would have been a whole day you know

probably more like of at the very least they were been like oh we're doing a whole thing today you know yeah Wow fucking wild yeah anyway we'll check in see where Alex is at the other dumb bullshit yep but we have a website indeed we do it's knowledge fight comm yep we'll be in and see where Alex is at, before we dump bullshit. Yep. But we have a website. Indeed we do, it's knowledgefight.com. Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am the Mysterious Professor. Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!

And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you.