Knowledge Fight - #1055: June 17-18, 2025

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan witness a dark day for Alex, where he decides that maybe Nazis aren't so bad, prepares to once again make a break with Trump, and reveals a new temperature-control ...super power.

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Starting point is 00:01:05 little bit about Alex Jordan. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy?
Starting point is 00:01:14 My bright spot today is probably, not surprisingly, Tony Hawk 3 and 4. Yes, we talked about that. The remake has come out and I've been kick flipping around like crazy. I've been playing a lot. Yeah. Like crazy. I've been playing a lot of Tony Hawk 3 and 4. Is it good? Is it scratching your itch? It's scratching some itches.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Yeah, for sure. When we talked about it a little bit before I got it and I was reflecting on how I don't know if I remember what levels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were in it and it's the perfect level of nostalgia. I did play these games a lot Okay, but I only kind of remember the maps gotcha I really really really remember one and two Tony Hawk one and two like those ones
Starting point is 00:01:55 I've memorized those maps all those levels. Yeah these I'm like what London Fuck I don't remember that kind of remember of remember this. Right, right, right. And I think that's just like the perfect medium. Nice. Is there anything new that you're enjoying in there too? Or is it all just straight up, this is what I've been looking for? Well there's a couple things. One, there's some fun secret skaters, of course. We got Michelangelo from the Ninja Turtles.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Oh, that's fun. I don't know why I legitimately was like, the artist really? It's like, yeah. Maybe the artists in there too deeper in the game. Maybe. Maybe it's the past. Yeah. But also I kicked this game on and I don't know if things got like super crazy at some later point like Tony Hawk Underground or, you know, some of those games. But I was as soon as I started playing, I had this like just voice in my head, echoing in my head of you talking about
Starting point is 00:02:53 how many stats they had. And they have basic stats. It is only like eight or nine different things, like lip balance manual balance speed See ya right. It's all just it's it's meat and potatoes And so you would love it. I believe you there it is Uncomplicated from an RPG perspective. I'm interested. Yeah, some of those some of those menus are getting out of control these days No menu difficulties here. That's nice. That's nice stuff
Starting point is 00:03:26 Yeah, so I'm enjoying that. What's your bright spot? My bright spot unsurprising Wimbledon that Yannick center that Carlos Alcaraz. They played tennis. It was great. That is very enjoyable. Nice It was a good match Center one which is extra good Because that means we're setting up the US open as our thriller in Manila Setting up the rubber match exactly as they say. Yep. Yep If they make it there if they make it to that right barring barring Carlos getting bored or one of them getting injured or sinner getting doped
Starting point is 00:04:02 Doping banned again. They're gonna be the two at the top. That last one seems like it could be a possibility. Also, is it a bracket style tournament? The US Open, all of them are, yeah. Yeah, so is it possible that they would meet in an earlier round or would they always be, okay. One and two. In the old days, yeah, but now they're one and two
Starting point is 00:04:22 and they're just gonna be one and two back and forth so they'll meet in every final for the rest of our lives basically. I'm excited it's gonna be great. There's gonna be a lot of angry Charles Barclays and Karl Malone's in the tennis world. There are so many broken human beings that were that were born at just the wrong time like the end of the big three and the beginning of Carlos Alcaraz like uh poor poor Zverev he'saryov, he's just ready to give it up. He's lost. He's number three in the world and he's like, I suck at tennis. How is that possible? Three's not good enough. Not good enough with those two. Yep, it's
Starting point is 00:04:55 tough. When you got a tight two, can't be free. That's all you need. No, no, no. Any more than two and it's probably... You know what? I'm not going to do that David Tell joke. I don't think so. Sure. Yeah. So today Jordan, we have an episode to go over. We're going to be talking a little bit about June 17th and 18th, 2025. Real mess. Real mess of time here.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Okay. We have, of course, the civil war in the United States that's going on. Sure. Alex has killed Gene Hackman. Yeah. And now Israel and Iran are real at each other's throats. Having a Donnybrook, if you will.
Starting point is 00:05:29 They are. And Trump has made it pretty clear by this point that he doesn't care that Israel is attacking Iran. The attack on Iran carried out by the United States has not happened yet but Alex fucking knows it's going to happen. And so he's in this real bad space. Yeah. Real bad headspace. And we'll talk about what that leads to. But first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Oh that's a good idea. So first, thank you so much Jonathan, Martin, Timothy, Sasha, Melanie, Basira, and the archival staff at the Magnus Institute London. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk Thank you very much. Thank you next the devil's panties is not a satanic porn, but it might be a globalist porn Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much
Starting point is 00:06:15 Thank you, and I ate a chicken fried steak and all I got was this vision from my cat Isis Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you Oh boy, we got a technocrat in the mix Jordan Kat Isis, thank you so much for an hour policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Oh boy. We got a technocrat in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to John Crenshaw, Wyvern Wrangler of Ravenglass. Thank you so much for an hour technocrat.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I'm a policy wonk. Four stars, go home, get my mother, and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. So the reason I said
Starting point is 00:06:54 oh no before I read that name was I saw the word Wyvern and I thought it was another like a Gaelic or like a bunch of words I'm not gonna be able to pronounce. You're not gonna be able to pronounce a Welsh word. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought it was a ton of Ys and Ws coming at me, but it was just one word. Good news. Good news.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I got scared preemptively. That'll happen. So we start off today here on the 17th and we actually have a couple of out of context drops from today's show. It's been a while. It has been a while. And that's why I brought two. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So I'm gonna let you choose, A or B. Ooh, these choices are getting so hard. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna defy expectations. I'm gonna go with A. Okay, this one's the tamer of the two. Okay. See, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna,
Starting point is 00:07:41 I'm just gonna go crazy, I think. Okay. All right, okay. That's a person who's legitimately probably about gonna go crazy I think. Okay. Alright. Okay. That's a person who's legitimately probably about to go crazy. That's fair. I think I'm gonna go crazy I think. I mean it's, you know, don't drive yourself crazy trying to keep yourself from going nuts.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Now here unfortunately is B. Stop. The whole Bible is about God telling the Jews, you need to knock it off. You need to knock it off. You need to knock it off So that's That's that's an interpretation that I had not heard of before you go to Alex's Seminary the whole Bible whole Bible though because it was all leading all the whole stuff You know the Noah the flood the whole thing all of that was leading up to the moment when Jesus shows up and is like, Hey, knock it off.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Cool it. And then, and then we go on. But really that's the end of the book. The whole, every single book of the Bible is the thesis. Yo, knock it off. Cool out. Knock it off. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Such a crazy thing to say. And then also so indicative of where this is going, unfortunately. Yeah, that does sound right. So we start off on the 17th and Alex is in quite a state about the Iran-Israel situation. And that I would say is the entire tension of this episode is that Alex is having to deal with the fact that Trump has openly signaled support for Israel attacking Iran. And Alex is getting some intel from behind the scenes sources that Trump plans on joining in and attacking Iran probably on Thursday, maybe on Friday. It was a little later than that, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:16 But this is going to start World War III or IV depending on the mood that Alex is in at the time. It's all really disillusioning and one kind ofing and it's a thing that Alex can't hide from because it's such a high profile betrayal of what Trump was supposed to be in office to do. Tucker is still carrying around the shame of supporting the Iraq war so he's been very strongly opposed to attacking Iran and his public position on this leaves Alex with no choice but to address this. He can't just like, uh, let's talk about something else. Oh, bathrooms or something.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah, no, we're the bombs. Yeah, the bombs. This is not what Trump is supposed to be about. And it's a high stake situation. And the thought leaders in Alex's media space have indicated that they're not going to go along with this. We're essentially in the same place we were when Trump bombed Afghanistan in his first term and Alex drunkenly ranted about Trump shoving ISIS up our dirty assholes. The difference now is that Alex isn't drunk, so this isn't funny. It's just sad. You're just watching a guy who likes to pretend that God enlisted him as a child to create the Patriot Revolution that would build up to getting Trump elected, and he's now realizing that the whole thing's falling apart because it was bullshit.
Starting point is 00:10:28 It's kind of nice to see these folks scrambling and trying to figure out how to play this situation. But the thing is, like, it's infuriating that they never experience any kind of self reflection or, or like, how was this my fault? Sure, sure. This is the state that we find Alex in. And he believes that Iran is is going to be attacked. Sure. Probably nuked.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Sure. Trump maybe sent out some nuclear codes. OK, and everything. That makes sense. And from all the indicators I see and what's happening, I expect the United States to strike. Iran massively. As early as Thursday. the United States. I'm not expecting what's happening. I expect the United States to strike. Iran massively. As early as Thursday. And as late
Starting point is 00:11:16 as early next week, but I would imagine when I see in the movements going on in the nuclear launch codes. That anybody can see being sent out there scrambled. To the the has been raised. Two weeks ago, Russia raised its and sent targeting and launch codes to the submarines. This is a lot bigger than just Iran. So everybody that thinks we trigger Armageddon early Jesus comes back. No, you're just going to get the Antichrist. But that doesn't matter. I guess
Starting point is 00:12:02 everybody just wants to die. So I understand that's what But that doesn't matter. I guess everybody just wants to die. So I understand that's Hey, I guess everybody just wants to die then how about that? Yeah, and we've heard him say that kind of stuff before but it's usually full of more like Theater. Yeah. Yeah, there's more energy behind it of like oh you all want to die Resignation yeah, I simply will watch everything that I have known and loved fall to pieces of ash in front of me Yeah, it's a little mopey. Yeah a little bit fuck yeah Yeah, and so Alex kind of has to do the only thing he has left to do and that is be like Hey, if you want to be a Nazi go for it, okay I'm so sick of just trying to be honest and stabilize the world and have freedom for everybody.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Either be accused of being a Nazi or be accused of working for Israel. For God's sakes, when I'm neither. But I tell you. The anti-Western, anti-white, anti-Christian rhetoric going on and being tacitly approved of by the neocons, you can't sit around with all your racist crap against Western society and then point your finger at a Nick phone to us and say, he's a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:13:12 When I think it's healthy to be totally politically incorrect now so that the left knows they no longer have any power over anything we say or do because that's how they've been controlling us. Yeah, be politically incorrect. But also if you say anything that is vaguely insulting towards white people, then you want to commit genocide against the West. Ah, these people just don't have the courage to say the N-word yet. Get on out of here!
Starting point is 00:13:35 So now that Alex is speaking somewhat freely, it's important to understand that this actually isn't a shift in his position at all. In earlier times, Alex would be more opposed to groups like neo-Nazis or the Klan because he felt like that was in his best interest politically to work towards a white nationalist state in this more covert way, and that the whole game would be disrupted by openly and knowingly associating with Nazis. That calculation has clearly changed, and now instead of trying to pretend that Nick Fuentes isn't a Nazi, Alex can just get on his show and say that Nazis aren't so bad compared to
Starting point is 00:14:07 these imaginary enemies I yell about. He's always felt that Nazis weren't that bad. It's just now fine for him to be open about it. Yeah. It feels like, eh, right. There's no such thing as like a little bit of Holocaust revisionism, you know? Like once you're a Holocaust denier, even if you're like, but I mean, no, the Holocaust happened, but like, it wasn't that bad. Like, you're also a Holocaust denier. You're you've already crossed the veil. You're fine. You might want to hold on to those thoughts for a little bit later. Why am I unsurprised? Yeah, why am I unsurprised? It's a mess. Oh, boy. So Alex doesn't stay on this topic for too long, because he remembers that almost a decade ago ago he made a video about how Hillary Clinton was going to start a nuclear war. And this seems to be like kind of relevant now. Now this is a 8.5, almost 9 year old promo dealing with the fact that Hillary said I'll go to war with Iran, I'll go to war with Russia, I'll go to war with China, we get a cyber the
Starting point is 00:15:07 8.5 almost 9 year old promo. Dealing with the fact that Hillary said I'll go to war with Iran. I'll go to war with Russia. I'll go to war with China. We got a cyber attack. I'll attack him. They can easily false flag and set him
Starting point is 00:15:17 up. Would have worked and I will give the order the military to launch nukes. It's like the dead zone. Stephen King's book. Excellent movie. Michael Cronenberg watched it again last night and seen it. So I was like 10. Christopher Walken. And anybody be able to shake somebody's hand, every single coma, he can see the
Starting point is 00:15:35 future of any violence and he sees this politician will be president one day launching a preemptive nuclear strike. Starting nuclear war, so Walken goes to kill it. But the politician sees it and grabs a baby and puts it in front of him. So that discredits it and then he kills Walken. But that's the dead zone. That's a movie. This is a disaster. Okay, so I get that Alex enjoys his sci-fi movies, but he's really lucky that his audience doesn't seem to have any critical thinking skills. He's on air ranting about how Trump is going to end up leading us into a nuclear war because
Starting point is 00:16:17 he's not reigning in Israel as they attack Iran, and in order to drive home this point, he's deciding to play a clip from the 2016 election season, where he tried to sensationalize the idea that Hillary wanted to lead us into a nuclear world war. Alex made that clip to attack Hillary in service of getting Trump into office, something that has been the centerpiece of his content for basically a decade now. His actions, including making this video arguing that Hillary would start a world war, were done specifically to help Trump win the presidency, and we now see that
Starting point is 00:16:50 the end result of that is being on the brink of a world war. Alex promised the audience that voting for Trump was the way to keep Hillary out of power, because if she was in power then there would be a world war. But now apparently Trump isn't the guy who's going to do anything differently, and by playing this video, Alex may as well be screaming at the audience that the past decade of his content has amounted to nothing. He's been part of a political project that has handed comical levels of power over to billionaires and unaccountable international corporations. If his audience could think for themselves, they should want to eat him. Like it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And playing that video is almost like rubbing the audience's face in it. I mean, there's the... I don't know if there's anything more stark than, I warned you this person would do this, so you should choose this person. Then this person has done this that I warned you the other person would do.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Whoops. That's the most wrong you can be. Yeah but diametrically wrong, but is it still Hillary? That's like it's not I wasn't a little bit off like that was wrong sure sure sure but Trump got elected But maybe Hillary's still starting this war with Iran now if that's the case That's actually that should be a very comforting thought because then it's like well There's nothing we ever could have done in the first place I've been wasting all of my time being angry so what I should do is go to Hawaii and then I guess murder Zuckerberg is that his plan? Walken. Yes that's right. If
Starting point is 00:18:15 that's the case too though that ad that Alex is playing here shouldn't have ever been a campaign ad. Yeah. Because it clearly voting had nothing to do with the end result. No, it should have been just a warning from Terminator 2 ad. Yeah. Another one of those before it's time. Alex used to hang out with the guy who called himself John Connor before he became Mark Dice. Is he okay now?
Starting point is 00:18:38 He had a little pickup artist period. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't do so well. I think he's doing great. It's a lot of Attraction on Twitter yeah great, so what do you think about pizza? Like it traditional is good because Michelangelo enjoys it as well both the actor or not actor never mind I'm out the actor I've heard a lot of blue it. I blew it. Yep. Sorry. I am a fan Yeah, of pizza you're a fan of pizza. Yeah, but it turns out bread cheese meat. Love it
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah, there's a lot we can learn from tracking pizzas tracking them You know, they'll tell you people that own pizza shops and liquor stores I read it the news decades ago, but I've asked people liquor stores and pizza places both I frequented in my time The owners when do you sell the most product. The owners. When do you sell the most product? What holiday? And they'll they'll you know, tell me holiday and then I'll say.
Starting point is 00:19:34 What about when we go to war starting? And they go. Oh, that's the most. That's when we sell the most liquor, the most pizzas, the most whatever because. It's become this American pastime to watch cities bombed and you know get drunk and eat pizza or whatever. Well this is all coming home economically
Starting point is 00:19:54 and through sleeper cells probably or they'll do false flies regardless to legitimize it all and maybe a Trump assassination be blamed on Iran they've pre-programmed that. So yeah man, whenever there's a war starting people And maybe a Trump assassination be blamed on Iran they've pre Program that so yeah, man Whenever there's a war start and people love to get some pizzas and buy booze isn't it just the Pentagon Orders a shit ton of pizza on very specific nights, right? Like if you cross reference when the Pentagon has ordered a shit ton of pizza and when we have about to go we'd start on a war Yeah, that's that's that's the kernel of truth in this. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:30 Goes back to desert storm, right? There's there's like a people have claimed that an uptick it not just pizza places like delivery food plays Whatever you like. Yeah, specifically around the Pentagon in DC It is not something that relates to the entire country. Nobody's like, hey, we started a war, let's order two pizzas. Yeah, yeah. It's fun. And it is an interesting metric because there have been data points where it has been shown to be like, oh, this did line up with this. Sure. It's not necessarily something I think that you could use as like a solid predictor.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Sure. Of like, oh my god, increased pizza sales, we're going to war. All I say is correlation 100% equals causation and you'll never convince me otherwise. Yeah. The thing that I think is fun though is that like Alex has fundamentally misunderstood what this thing is. And it's actually like a borderline interesting thing that you could be like, oh yeah, that makes a certain amount of sense. And also, and instead he's ruined even that interesting tidbit. Yeah, and the night when Israel launched their operation against Iran,
Starting point is 00:21:41 pizza sales were up anecdotally from shops around The CIA and the Pentagon all right so like that is what Alex is Responding to yeah is like a New York Post headline about that yeah But he is fundamentally misunderstanding it in order to be like all you fucks just want to eat pizza and watch bombs Do you know why God invented pizza? Same reason he did everything else to tell the Jews to knock it off. Right. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:12 So Tucker and Trump are in a little bit of a fight because Tucker has some very strong feelings about I don't want to do Iraq again. Yeah, let's not do Iraq again. And so Trump is like this fucking guy he needs to get back on cable he has no audience Wow criticizing me what a dick okay all right it didn't take long Alex isn't thrilled you've got Trump making you know statements about Tucker Carlson who's been such a great supporter and oh he's gonna network show he doesn't have and Trump ever they tried to kill him and all the rest of it doesn't give an F. And that's good with the Democrats and that's good with him bullheadedly doing the right things he's doing and that's what's so paradoxical.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So much stuff securing the border and stopping the fentanyl and deporting these all these violent criminals and illegal aliens and the rest of it. So this is such a great Alex stance. It's good when Trump does his normal asshole routine to the people we don't like, but it's not so fun when he does it to us. When he bullies CNN, he's speaking the truth, but when he says the same things to try to bully Tucker, it's all made up. This is soft.
Starting point is 00:23:34 This is very weak behavior. Yeah. But I think it's interesting that Alex feels this need to equivocate around Trump. You know, like, there's so much shit that's going on that it is like you you see what he's doing, right? I mean all this. This is exactly what you're supposed to be against. And that's why he has to keep retreating back to these things like vague ideas about fentanyl going down or, you know, all these criminals that are getting deported. Yeah, these are these vague abstractions that he's created hysterias around
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yeah over the past years and You can just be like well It feels like those problems are being taken care of so I let's weigh the good with the bad That's just that's just money. That's just money. You know like back in the day This is the idea is simply like, oh, this is what those other people do. This is when I'm watching a fucking whatever fuck face on TV go like, oh, W is fine. But also he I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:24:34 That's that's what they do. We don't do that. We're hardcore here. Fuck those guys. You know, we don't do that. We're above the whole thing. And now he's like, but Trump is nice sometimes to fuck you What he's mean to see it funny shut up
Starting point is 00:24:50 It would be nice it would be nice mmm, but can't nope cuz they didn't care to begin with There's no there's never been any learning that I could see that caring was an act. Yeah, so if you're gonna have You know a conversation with a guest about the Iran-israel conflict Yeah, who do you think would be like the worst person you could get I? mean Well barring of course Ted Bundy who you just don't want on your program And Joe Lieberman who I think is dead he is he is dead we've talked about this It's cold recently Colin Powell still alive. I think he is also passed. Oh shit
Starting point is 00:25:35 Dick Cheney no No, that would be a huge swing for Alex. Yeah, that would be that would be a moment Where you really have to look in the mirror? No, who is it Nick Fuente? Oh great? Yeah, that would be that would be a moment where you really have to look in the mirror. No, who is it? Nick Fuentes. Oh great. Yeah, of course Shit, so Alex has Nick on Noted anti-semite and real piece of shit Nick Fuentes to talk about the conflict that is brewing between Iraq. Wild! Yeah, bad choice. Wild! And it was Nick Fuentes that just said look I can't vote for Trump Because even though the Democrats are horrible and evil and all the rest of it, at least they at one level listen to the military and said this could potentially cause a nuclear war and at least a
Starting point is 00:26:10 collapse. So we're not going to be for it openly. Now they are because it's happening. So I said at the start of the show since then it's on Fox by Thursday at the earliest, the latest sometime next week, all the assets are building up. the the the the
Starting point is 00:26:29 the the the the the the the the
Starting point is 00:26:37 the the the the the the the the
Starting point is 00:26:47 the the the the the Oh, we're just doing, you know, seven days to take out their missiles and their nukes. Oh, actually, Netanyahu said two days ago, we're never stopping. We're not negotiating. And then as if Trump is his vice president, Trump comes out today and says, unconditional surrender, that's all we'll take. Unconditional means they will allow regime change. It just, meanwhile, the Israeli newspapers are we're going to hang the Ayatollah just like Saddam got hung by the Shiites they gave them to sure So we're going to Nick Fuentes over the next two hours He's been the most on this predicting it vindicated and demonized for it nice demonized for other stuff
Starting point is 00:27:18 But I think that Nick has something that Alex desperately needs right now, and that is that he had a correct conspiracy right wing position. He did, like he very publicly during the lead up to the 2024 election was like, I'm not gonna vote for Trump. This is ridiculous. And that I think has given some credibility to where he stands right now in this space that Alex is Desperately needing because he is he's standing on jello. Yeah, you know, I I find it difficult to feel sympathy for
Starting point is 00:27:57 People who engage in something that our religions have been talking about like this is some Loki shit like oh that our religions have been talking about. Like, this is some Loki shit. Like, oh, you were a liar, but the deal was you're not supposed to lie to me. I lied. We've been doing this for several thousand years! No more of the, you did it again! There should be a sign on Trump's head
Starting point is 00:28:17 that says like, don't, believe me, don't believe me. If you believe me, you're fucking stupid. Yeah, yeah, believe me at your own risk. I mean, we can tattoo things on sleeping people. Uh, no, no. Is that illegal? You can, it's legal to put their hand in warm water. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:35 That's legal. But we can't just tattoo random things on people who are asleep. No. Okay, well then I guess we're, I'm gonna have to come up with a different idea. I mean, I think it's very technically assault, but I don't know if a tattoo has specifically been adjudicated by the Supreme Court. I mean, it's practically just a flesh wound. Yeah, but I also think that you would get arrested
Starting point is 00:28:53 for giving someone a flesh wound. That is fair, that is fair, that is fair. But what if I didn't charge for it? Frankly, he owes me money. Okay, I'm not going to untangle this. So Nick, I think what he's there to do is essentially take a victory lap at Alex's expense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's a little bit, I don't want to say bittersweet because there's nothing sweet
Starting point is 00:29:19 about it. It's a horrible situation and a lot of people are dying. And obviously the strategic implications for the United States are detrimental and massive. At the same time it's like you said moments ago I did not support Trump last year because this was my primary concern and I said this last year I said that I'm not gonna vote for a Democrat I don't think I'd ever vote for a Democrat but unless Trump could give a commitment that we wouldn't wind up in exactly this situation, which is a war with Iran, I said I can't vote for him.
Starting point is 00:29:50 You know, and at that time people were saying I was a Democrat plant. They said I was a fed. I was trying to divide the MAGA movement. I just saw that this was a little bit more likely than a lot of people thought, and now we're here. So on the one hand, it's it's a little bit nice for people to realize, you know, sometimes Chicken Little knows what he's talking about. You know, sometimes the the low IQ anti semites, you know, maybe there's some truth there. So when Nick says low IQ anti semi, he's rubbing it in Alex's face. Yep. Previously, Alex had tried to portray Nick and his followers as Israel-obsessed people who would blame Jewish people if they stubbed their toe.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Oh, these people, they see Israel behind, and Jews behind every shadow. Nick knows that Alex has characterized him like this to the audience, and honestly, Alex should recognize this as a hostile opening. Nick has asserted almost complete dominance in the conversation. Like I was right to not blindly follow Trump and my anti-Semitic shit is right. How dare you? This is exhausting. I can't imagine being either of the two of them having to do... How many times are we going to do power dynamics between these two?
Starting point is 00:30:59 Take a nap. It's primate behavior. It's fascinating. Exactly. Just fucking relax, man. What is it? But also, eh, fuck it. I honestly find it a bit more fascinating
Starting point is 00:31:10 than just about anything else on his show. Yeah. Because there's something really primal about it. Yeah. There's something that comes out with this, like, old, over-the-hill, silverback gorilla-type guy who's just like has to get this youngster who's I'm I don't care. I'm alpha in you I'm seeing the giant
Starting point is 00:31:31 lion Sea lion thing that's on the rock with the 15 women and then Attenborough being like and the smaller males sneak up, you know, it's like this is what's happening Yeah, wild the next generation is here to do a little dance on. Yeah Yeah, crazy. Yep. So in further rubbing things in Alex's face I think anybody with eyes to see can understand how the world is scuse me apart and de-stabilizing it's gonna end in some kind of Ultimate conflict that like World War two on the other side of it will be a new world order that like World War II, on the other side of it will be a new world order. And you know, not to say like any kind of Illuminati, like new world order,
Starting point is 00:32:08 like the power dynamics of the globe will be different. If we had a bipolar world order after World War II between the US and Soviet Union, if we had a unipolar world order after the Cold War led by the United States, at the other side of this war is going to be a multipolar world order or you know it might be the Stone Age if it turns into some kind of nuclear escalation. Tens of millions of Alex's dollars that he's earned in his career come directly from playing clips of George H.W. Bush saying new world order and Nick Fuentes is saying there's going to be a new world Order and then explaining why
Starting point is 00:32:47 the things that all of these, you know, people like Bush in these, in these clips that Alex plays, why it's not as suspicious as Alex makes it out to be. Yeah. That's an insult. That is exactly like, to me, that is like somebody going on Carson's couch and saying the F word. Or just pissing on his couch. Well, I mean, sure, there's that.
Starting point is 00:33:07 But I was trying to put it into a more genteel way of like, that is an insult that in the context is even bigger than you can understand, you know? Yeah, yeah, I mean, like, if you did do that, you would cause like consequences for his show. Absolutely, it would be a nightmare and you would be fucked. Yeah, and it's like
Starting point is 00:33:26 You know, there's something particularly in a lot of cultures throughout history. There's something that's really Offensive about doing something to someone who has welcomed you into their home Yeah, yeah, you know and like if Carson brings you over to the couch Yeah, you should behave at the couch. You should behave better than you've ever to the couch. Yeah, you should behave at the couch. You should behave better than you've ever been. You on the show. Yeah, behave a little bit with Alex. Play this game with him. No, no. Fuck Bobcat. Gold twain's going to light your couch on fire. Motherfucker. Yep. Yep. So, um, Alex knows that Nick's a Nazi. He knows this. We all know he's a Nazi. Well, based on text messages that he had from Millie Weaver He knew that Nick and his followers were like fans of Hitler before he even really had Nick on the show
Starting point is 00:34:10 Back in like years ago, right? And so when Alex is something like this, it's a it's a heavy thing to say This is not in well in my view for anybody but especially Israel Israel. And I predict that you're going to see all the anti Israel sentiment that some of it is overblown and some of it's exaggerated. And, you know, I don't think in general, you know, the average Jews and you're involved in this or it's inner fighting, but, but I'm not an apologist for Israel. I wanted Trump to do the right thing as Israel Texas is the break of thermal nuclear war and all the rest of it.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I, I, I've, you notice I've just been escalating, uh, trying to spotlight this. the that sphere. And you got to get past any guilt of any group that's criticizing you and just double down. I think that's the medicine for the disease now. We crossed that Rubicon the last year or so where I was like, pointe, you're going too far. We didn't, you know, try to, and now it's been pushed so far that no, it's, it's the medicine we need. That's bad. Smoke them if you got them. Alex knows that Nick's an antisemite and in that clip, he's explicitly endorsing it. But here's what's fascinating about that clip. Alex is also saying that Nick is incorrect, and that the bigotry that he's rebranding
Starting point is 00:35:33 as identity politics, it's not reflective of reality. But it's what Alex thinks we need. Basically the message he's sending is that it's dumb to hate Jewish people, and that's what he thinks will cut down on the possibility of attacking Iran. So you should do it. And you shouldn't feel guilty about how people are gonna accurately describe your positions as bigot shit once you make this little switch to being politically incorrect. There's nothing to argue with here because Alex is saying that what he's advocating for is wrong. The hatred for
Starting point is 00:36:04 Israel is often overblown among people he associates with, and a lot of his guests fall into the trap of blaming Jewish people for all of society's problems, and Alex knows that's bad. He just doesn't care. There's nothing to convince him of, other than I guess he should care, and that's not happening. You're never going to convince somebody of that. If I were Nick in this interview, I would just be laughing my ass off.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I'd be like, you idiot. Ha ha. I mean, I wonder if he hasn't said something inexplicable, or like, accidentally really, really poignant, which is that I think ultimately beneath what he's saying is the reason you didn't do all of these things before is because you were afraid of social consequences.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Now there are no social consequences. We have become self-sufficient. And if you offend social consequence people, who gives a fuck? They don't live near you. You're just going to come hang out with us and we can all say it to each other. Yeah, I think that is a part of it. And I think that there's another part of it that is just like we have rationalized this enough
Starting point is 00:37:12 that now there's a framework where you can trick yourself into thinking you're not being a bigot. You're just being the only way you can be like play defense against the people who are bigoted against you. Sure. Sure And it's kind of gross. Mm-hmm so Nick I think he gets the message and that it's just like Speak freely. Yes, whatever anything goes now. Yeah. Well, it's shocking the way they play the victim
Starting point is 00:37:43 You know and I think that should give everybody a lot of pause whenever the Holocaust is invoked and the victim status for hey it's like watching Emperor Palpatine in Star Wars you know we're too weak we're too weak they're they're sponsoring terrorism we have to take them out we got to go after Iran Libya Iraq every country in the whole world. Help me the god of the day, the only god I can. POWER! Yeah. This literally, so yeah, I don't, you can't trust him.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah. So we can just do Holocaust denial on Infowars now and Alex will do voices and play along with you and it's all good fun. I guess so. You can't for a second pretend Alex doesn't know what Nick is saying. Yeah. He understands this entirely. He's making an active choice to be like, this flies now. Let's get yay back on the show. Let's fucking do this. He cares.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah. I wonder if they've, I mean, yeah, I think it's inadvertently learning a weakness of social consequences, which is ultimately you can only face social consequences if you exceed to them. So the only people who are going to be now affected by social consequences are people who believe that social consequences can come to them. So their enemy, so to speak, is now destined to destroy itself. Because they have refused to let anything divide them now. Now there's no even pretence of divide.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Is this a Star Wars thing? No, no, that's just, you know, that's just how consequences work. If you can't face them upon anybody, they're not really a useful tool for them. Right, right, they may not be, or you need to readjust how those social consequences work. And maybe there's a possible avenue that that can be explored. But also, I think that you don't have to worry about them being indivisible. I think they will create social consequences for each other internally, as we've seen very recently about the Epstein stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:43 That's what they would do if they were capable of it Yes, yeah, and but they will within their own communities You know it's the same thing with it We've talked a bunch before like if they were ever successful in creating a white nationalist whites only utopia Yep, they would kick out the red hair to people. You know there would be there would be some Division that they would end up needing to create because otherwise shit does not work. Yep. So this is another little bit of a Nick just kind of rubbing Alex's face in. Oh yeah. Shit little. When it comes to Israel and
Starting point is 00:40:18 the Jews and all that, I just want to fight policies, whoever is running them, whoever the globalist are, for a big tent. I understand other people what's going on. I think that we need to fight policies. Whoever is running them, whoever the globalist are. For a big 10. I understand other people having other angles. It's just that then other people want to make it all incendiary. If you know how
Starting point is 00:40:35 Israel's really worked, they did hundreds of bombings against themselves after World War two. In Europe, the Middle East, Spain, you name it to bomb synagogues to make Jews run to Israel. Madeline Albright's dad working with Hitler to round up and Rob Jews. You had Madeline Albright's dad working with Hitler to round up and rob
Starting point is 00:40:48 Jews, you know, Soros, all of it. So there's also if you attack Israel in a full broad attack in my experience, most the Jews aren't in on that thing. Then they get persecuted, and they actually believe their controllers
Starting point is 00:41:01 that are a cult within a cult feeding off of them. That's been my perspective, and there's other crime syndicates and groups out there and so in my view is just oppose the policies and we can somehow stop it but but now it's the it's a runaway train now yes that's an apt description it is a runaway train I don't think anybody could put the brakes on it that's what's scary not America not Russia not China not Iran nobody can seem to put the brakes on the train somebody tried a long time ago, but now we're just off the rails. There's no, I don't see any way out of this.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Well, you know, Darth BB is about to be the emperor of the planet. Yeah. Do you think for a second, Alex doesn't get exactly what he's saying? Oh my God. So, I think you're so fucking hot shit. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Well, I mean, look, I think you're so fucking hot shit. God damn it. Well, oh, I mean look I think Obviously that is a little bit annoying and and kind of tacky but if you're someone like Nick You have largely conquered Alex. Yeah Yeah, you it's got to feel really good to make up with Hitler kind of references for sure Die the Holocaust on Alex's show to his face after he has Begrudgingly introduced you as like an expert who was right about this stuff. Yep, like it's just Rubbing your face in it and Alex does not need to do this. He's doing it as it's a choice. Yeah. You know, I don't know exactly what it felt like to be a Pictish warrior holding
Starting point is 00:42:31 an axe, lifting your kilt and waggling your penis at the other army, but I imagine it's very similar to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very similar energy. It has to be. Yeah. Very much so. So, um, Nick says another thing that I thought was a little bit, come on, man. Okay. I also think we need to look at how people like Elon and Trump, they have been sort of used as a Trojan horse in a certain sense, because with Trump, you get a lot of the neocons in the White House. With Elon, you get a lot of the Palantir people. You know, they talked about this Palantir database they're putting together and it's being put together by holdovers from Doge. So I think that, you know, Elon and Trump, they both kind of have this Faustian, Aryan
Starting point is 00:43:13 thing going for them. You know, they're reaching for the sky. Elon wants to be multi-planetary. Trump wants to fix America, but they and their own teams have been subverted. Faustian, Aryan thing. I mean Just it's pretty over. It's pretty fucking over. I Well, yeah, what you gonna do? I
Starting point is 00:43:36 Mean, I I don't know What more you could do other than like Alex is still trying to do a little pretending that he's talking about Israel as opposed to like he's he's trying to not fully make it clear he knows exactly what Nick is talking about. I would like to now that we are here I think now is the time a lot of these conversations that people are having very difficult very difficult. I think we should stop go back and Relitigate whether or not violent video games are ruining children sure because I think we can win that one now I think we've got that one because if I look out at the world now, it wasn't violent video games
Starting point is 00:44:18 It did it you know Sam. Maybe we should Relitigate to live crew. I think so, too Yeah, we got to go back to that first years of Fox News like time travelers and be like y'all you have no idea What's coming for you you assholes banned sir mix a lot? You assholes I also mean like tipper gorge. Don't get me wrong. It's not all Y'all are going to be bumping to wet-ass pussy in 30 years get over it get over it and then will not be there in 30 years hmm wild so they take some calls yeah and surprisingly they get a call from Israel yeah okay allegedly all right
Starting point is 00:44:57 connections pretty good all right I have no reason to distrust this person okay but it doesn't go great oh let's go to Mike in Israel. Israeli army dual citizen. Israel is our ally. Mike, thanks for calling in. We really appreciate your view on things. What's your take on this? I've listened to you for a long time. I'm a dual citizen. I grew up in Tyler, Texas. My mom is Israeli, Roman Catholic, and I live in Nazareth. I'm currently on active duty, and I'm gonna tell ya, I used to have the views that you guys have. America first, you know, don't get involved
Starting point is 00:45:32 in stuff with Israel, until I came over here and lived here with my family, and fought Hezbollah, and fought Hamas, and saw how much these Muslims want to destroy not just Israeli they want to destroy everybody that is not their religion there they're truly possessed these people want to murder children and you get a whole new perspective when you've lived in Israel as long as which I've lived here 12 years now and I'm currently up on the Golan Heights Fighting for my country and well, let's be clear. Let's be clear the average Jew I've ever known has been really smart nice person and I don't support has below I don't support the Muslims
Starting point is 00:46:18 I don't support the Mullahs. I understand that Jihadis are nasty that said I understand that the jihadis are nasty. That said, Netanyahu just put al-Qaeda in charge with Turkey and others. Netanyahu, his boss before him created Hamas. The CIA put the Mullahs in or helped them in 79. Do you get my point about why does the West continue to set up radical jihadis so they can knock them down later?
Starting point is 00:46:43 How do you respond to that? Absolutely. That's a historical fact. But you have to remember from the Israeli, from the Mossad perspective, they do that to get control from the inside. Mossad has completely infiltrated Iran right now. They're doing their best to hunt down the mullahs and kill them quietly, but because of all of the you know the missiles and stuff going back it's Everybody knows what's going on. So it's got to change to different kind of warfare. Also alex. I'm not a jew
Starting point is 00:47:14 I'm roman catholic. I just wanted to say that okay, so I understand there's a lot of christians That that have gone just like you got foreign fighters in Ukraine on both sides, North Koreans, you name it. Nick, you want to respond to Mike and Israel? That guy's definitely a Jew. I was going to say, that's got to be the answer. That's got to be the answer. Destroy everybody else. They accuse everybody else of what they themselves are guilty. Yeah, that's come on.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Yeah, it should have come on. Yeah. That should have been the first thing you should have thought you were going to hear out of it was, oh, he's obviously a Jew. It was a low handed pitch right over home plate. Right there. That's great. Yeah. This caller has an interesting angle, which is that Alex doesn't hate Muslims enough.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I would say that Alex has that base fully covered, but maybe this caller's expectations are different than mine. This was the first point in the interview that I felt like Alec was getting to see Nick's less polished side come out. When he says that that caller is definitely a Jew, I felt like, okay man, this is not your hot dog in a little too much here. I think this is because the caller said that his mom was Israeli, but if you go back and listen to the start of the call, he clearly identifies that his mom is Roman Catholic.
Starting point is 00:48:29 The caller obviously did this because he knows that he's talking to a very serious anti-Semite, and he wanted to make sure that Nick didn't think that he was Jewish, because Nick hates Jewish people. This is pretty fucking insane to just be happening on Infowars. Nick has been making cool, edgy Hitler references and engaging in explicit holocaust denial, and now this is just a fine way to interact with a guest on the show. I know that the shit was never good to begin with, but this is bad. I think that is revealing of one fundamental misunderstanding of bigotry that most people
Starting point is 00:49:05 on the wrong end of it have of like, oh, you hate me for a thing and I am that thing because I am that thing. When really bigotry is I am defining you as that thing. I don't give a fuck what you think you are. Oh no, I'm only one eighth true. Like I give a shit. You're Jewish to me, buddy. That's where the one drop of blood loss come from during the civil, you know, like this is what's happening Yeah, you don't have a choice whether or not you want it. You can convert away from Judaism not to me though
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yeah, you know for someone like Nick and what that moment is revealing is the way that this is not about a definition It is about a reason to exclude a definition. It is about a reason to exclude. It is about a reason to block people out of your in-group. Or specifically put them into your out-group. Yeah, I have a green card. Not today you don't because I decide you don't. It never had anything to do with what you needed to do and everything to do with me deciding how to live in you. Am I? Are you? Are you? Not to me! So this may be quite literally the definition of faint praise.
Starting point is 00:50:11 But Nick has this response to the caller where he has decided, nah, you're definitely Jewish. And I think that Alex at least is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Whoa. Why are you saying that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Why are you making such a scandalous accusation on my program Wow? Which is probably not the best way to go about it, but at least it's sort of pushback On the overall issue, but there are a lot of Christians that go over and join Israel. Or how do you know this guy's Jewish? He just sounds Jewish and Catholics don't. Protestants might go and do that, but not Catholics. He is a Catholic Church, doesn't, I mean, there's some debate inside the Church, but Catholic Church is not super pro-Israel. They've been advocating for an end of the war in
Starting point is 00:51:00 Gaza. I want you to have your statement, but real fast, Mike, respond back to him saying that you're Jewish. I Respond back to him saying that you're Jewish No, I'm not Jewish. I that my parish is the Basilica of the Annunciation in Nazareth Where st. Gabriel announced to the Blessed Mother that she would be the mother of God I am Roman Catholic and I fight in the idea My mother's family has been here for 500 years. Don't tell me I'm a Jew. I'm not a Jew. Is he actually Jewish?
Starting point is 00:51:30 And I defend my country, I defend my people. So they let people that aren't Jewish join the idea? What's that? You stand accused of being Jewish. How do you plead? Listen, this is funny, but not in a good way. It's funny because this is identical to a radio broadcast you could probably hear in Germany in 1929. 100% identical.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Like, oh, are you sure you want to call this guy a euden? And it's like, not on radio. Do you want to get this man hurt? Like, this is crazy. Sounds like a Jewish person to me. Fucking hell. Unbelievable. Wow. Like this is crazy sounds like a Jewish person to me fucking hell unbelievable Wow So I get I get that Nick's accusation that this caller is Jewish is is out of left field and is reflective of his inherent Antisemitic worldview, but Alex is missing the forest for the tree is here
Starting point is 00:52:18 He should be concerned with Nick's outburst not with whether or not this caller is secretly Jewish Yeah How should Alex's position on this caller's point change whether he's a Jewish person in Israel or a Roman Catholic person in Israel saying the same thing? How is that relevant to responding to the point? I mean, it seems very important to Alex, which is weird. It should be super important to Nick because he hates Jewish people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:43 But Alex is supposed to just kind of be like, I don't agree with Israel kind of guy. He's not supposed to be... Wild. Oh, well. Wild. It's not great that Alex is surprised that someone who's not Jewish can join the IDF. He doesn't seem to know too much about this stuff and that's great. He should also be super worried about Nick insisting this guy is ethnically Jewish,
Starting point is 00:53:02 as the clip goes on. Yeah. Nick generally tries to keep up a cool facade where he doesn't hate Jewish people because of their ethnicity, he just doesn't like that the Talmud is mean to Jesus. Moments like this kind of let that mask slip, which I guess Alex endorses now.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Because if he's like, are you Jewish? No, I'm Roman Catholic. Are you ethnically Jewish? What are you ethnically Jewish? No. What are you talking about now? I mean, again, it goes back to this, like, within the out group, the distinctions are very important because they're your group, you're the in group in the in group, you know, where your distinctions between, oh, this is a person who is grown, this is orthodontist,
Starting point is 00:53:40 yada yada, you know, all of these different things. Outside of the in group, you can be whatever the fuck I say you are. You're yada yada, you know, all of these different things. Outside of the in-group, you can be whatever the fuck I say you are. You're not in my group. Right. And when Nick says that Catholics are on his side of this, it's because he is like a Vatican II kind of guy who doesn't believe that the pope is official because they apologized about the Holocaust. You know, they still got mad about the inquisition and I think they had some good ideas And I'll tell you what they didn't particularly care if you were ethnically Jewish or not Yeah, so when he says like the Catholic Church has this position
Starting point is 00:54:14 He means the Catholic Church that he adheres to which is the anti-semitic fringe Mel Gibson's dad branch of the Catholic Church the convert or burn Catholic Church, that classic one. Yeah. So I thought this was a pathetic demonstration. I think that Alex should be ashamed. I understand he's down in the dumps because Trump is turning out to be real shit. And it kind of makes the last 10 years of his life look bad.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Sure. That's not an excuse for this though. On one level, it's not an excuse to turn Nazi. But then on the other hand, it's not an excuse to do a you know, the public humiliation ritual, a groveling to Nick Fuentes, this weasely-y little 20-year-old fuck. I mean, it is so hard to realize, like one of the hardest things to listen to,
Starting point is 00:55:14 listening to this, for me, is like, this is not how a child speaks to me. You know what I'm, like, I can't believe Alex is letting you talk to me like that. You do not speak to me in that tone of voice, young man. Like, I can't believe Alex is letting you talk to me like that. You do not speak to me in that tone of voice, young man. Like I can't imagine having a conversation with this kid the way he's talking. Well, and especially if you're somebody who has like decades of a career, and a lot of that career relies on walking this thin line and this thin ice of like, I don't mean Jewish
Starting point is 00:55:43 when I say globalist. I don't mean Jewish when I say globalist. I don't mean Jewish when I say globalist, I swear. When that is something that you have such a history of when this 20 year old dick is coming in and just sort of torpedoing down that wall, breaking that ice, you shouldn't be going along with him. You're falling in that ice. See, and it's his fault because you've got him on in what he thinks is his fortress of solitude, which is like, the Jews did it, you know? Which is very great, good work. But he's a 20-year-old kid and he's talking to you
Starting point is 00:56:19 about a multipolar post-fucking Cold War world. Shut the fuck up, you don't know anything anything you were born after the Iraq war started shut up well about your multipolar knowledge fuck off sure but yeah Alex can't really afford to do that can't really afford to do that oh well yeah so the two of them have a great time and who what a mess. So we jumped to the 18th. And now by this point, Alex is really bummed. He's...
Starting point is 00:56:51 It's a rough... It's been a rough few days. Shit for not good. The world is gonna probably be on fire in a few days. Tucker had his interview with Ted Cruz. I don't know if you saw that. I did not see that. Why did he do that? Well, the real question is why did Ted Cruz do that? That's what I was thinking. Yeah. Because it was him falling into a series of traps that Tucker has set up for him. And it was... If I were Ted Cruz, I would be putting a hit out on Tucker.
Starting point is 00:57:26 It made him look so bad. I mean, boy, it is never going to surprise me even a little bit how many people are just willing to not do homework for a show and just will show up. Like, if I'm Ted Cruz talking to Tucker Carlson now, I'm like brushing up. Maybe. That guy wants to get
Starting point is 00:57:45 scalps yeah maybe but I think that you'd also have a pretty good reason to think you're walking into a safe environment I'm sure like that might be hubris that's why I don't trust nobody it was a miscalculation on his part yeah and so that cheers Alex up a little bit but it it's not enough. No shit is just bleak Yeah, but then there is you know a little bit of Sun poking out yeah, and and that comes in the form of cash Patel God this is not gonna. Go well. Well it is for today It's not later. No no I was gonna turn on cash Patel pretty hard. That sounds right. But for now, he has proved that the 2020 election was stolen. Oh, a story broke yesterday and
Starting point is 00:58:30 worse come out today that we actually covered and broke part of during the 2020 theft of the election. And this is something really positive cash Patel has done. And when he releases all these incredible documents on a routine basis, crossfire, hurricane, you name it, it gets almost no attention. Even in the Liberty movement, the populist movement, because we already know a lot of this. So we just go, OK, that's an old story. Yeah, but it's the actual proof.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And even more details, but the communist Chinese government, listen to me, I'm getting chills right now. Chills on record through the Carnegie endowment and the CIA. A lot of seas shipped in millions of fake ballots from North Korea, the mules at the distribution centers in the battleground states. And then the the White House had already created a group to oversee that at DHS to make sure that no one would report on it and to block anyone that reported it. Total premeditation with all these big agencies working against the American people.
Starting point is 00:59:45 So we have a government that's run by dipshits, which is always true to varying extents, but more so now than ever. And this government is particularly full of a specific kind of dipshit, the former right-wing media figure dipshit. The top two guys at the FBI are people whose previous careers were being right-wing media shit-talkers. Because they come from that world, they know how to engage with it, and they know more or less how to placate the players within it, like in Alex.
Starting point is 01:00:12 They've done a really good job of this, with the exception of anything involving Jeffrey Epstein. The whole PR stunt where they gave a bunch of their old friends from the right wing dipshit media binders and pretended they were releasing bombs shells to them. That was a really good effort, but it fizzled out and at the present day, this has become a huge disaster for them. But at this point, on June 18th, Cash Patel is throwing meatballs right over home plate for these folks to swing at. He tweeted out, quote, the FBI has located documents which detail alarming allegations related to the 2020 US election, including allegations of interference by the CCP. It's not proof of anything, but instead it's just an alarming allegation.
Starting point is 01:00:55 And Patel's tweet doesn't include any evidence. It's just this statement and a screenshot of a blog post about a conspiracy about China shipping in fake IDs that were going to be used to sway the election. As NBC News coverage of this story points out, quote, the unsubstantiated claim promoted by Patel, which an unidentified confidential human source gave to the FBI in 2020 during Donald Trump's first term, asserts that the Chinese mass produced driver's licenses were to be used in a mail-in ballot scheme.
Starting point is 01:01:27 The only thing backing this story up is an August 2020 seizure of about 19,000 fake IDs, many of which came from Hong Kong or China. The Trump media went to work arguing that these were for stealing the election, but that's pretty stupid. There is a big industry for fake IDs in the US because underage people want to go to bars. Fake IDs are great for that, but they're not enough to get you registered to vote. Like when you flash your ID to a bouncer, they're not checking your information against a database,
Starting point is 01:01:57 then only letting you into the bar if it matches up with what's on their computer. They don't do that. No. That's why fake IDs work at bars. And generally, the person might be drunk themselves or not give a shit. Everybody's fairly motivated to only be aware of a fake ID if it's bad enough or if you're bad enough at flashing it. Right, and as somebody who's worked in those industries, you can't get in trouble if you check someone's ID and they
Starting point is 01:02:26 give you a fake ID. So as long as you're giving someone an ID, most of the time, they're not going to really care that much. Because what am I? Am I the ID know where now? I'm a bouncer. I am here to solve problems if they arise. I'm not here to like oh, this is from
Starting point is 01:02:47 Carl the guy who makes fake IDs down the street That's not my job if they have a like comically mismatched ID sure you might get in trouble sure But as long as you make a good faith effort, then you're not gonna get in trouble Yeah, which is why fake IDs work there. Yeah, that is not the same For voting. No, it's not the same for traveling getting on planes. No stuff. People don't want you out there. That is not the same for voting. It's not the same for traveling, getting on planes and stuff. People don't want you out there. No. The good faith standard really only applies to this bar setting. Yeah. Yeah. Because we all kind of think that the whole drinking age is bullshit anyways. But you know, whatever. And people who are looking to flout that are really motivated. Absolutely. They're really into going into that bar. More motivated than I am in keeping them out.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And so ultimately that kind of disparity is gonna win. Yep. Nature abhors a vacuum or something. Something along those lines. So there's no proof here, but by signaling to this old conspiracy while occupying the office of the head of the FBI, Patel knows that he's giving official backing to whatever dumb bullshit folks like Alex will come up with, and that's good for keeping all these dipshits busy.
Starting point is 01:03:47 This five year old tip about fake IDs is now being reported by Alex as proof that China used the Carnegie Foundation to send a ton of ballots in to steal the election. Like he's created these ballots and he goes on about this and he's talking about how like, oh, there's proof of these Chinese people getting off planes with ballots, millions of ballots. All right. So here I am. I'm like mid-level guy. I'm shooting my shot though.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I'm trying to make it to the next level. I'm trying to get there. So I'm taking this idea I have to fuck with the United States elections to my superiors at the, at the Politburo or whatever. I don't know what it is anymore. To just to she I'm just walking up to she with a binder and I'm like buddy check out this plan. Do you think he reads that plan and goes yep millions of dollars going your way.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah. He said he says for sure. Also, I have to catch a plane to Minnesota and write on a rubber mask. What are we doing? Yeah. Yeah. She's busy. I know. No, for so many reasons guy. Yeah, you're fired. This is dumb. Yeah. So, Alex, he's done some soul searching.
Starting point is 01:04:52 And maybe some things need to change with his relationship with Trump. Sure. And he makes a statement any moment now any moment he makes a statement about this. Yeah. I've done a lot of soul searching on this. people are very tribal. People either want to say you're for Trump, you're against Trump. I will be for Trump on good things he's doing and I will oppose bad things. That's what you're supposed to do. And I'm very thankful he's in office and not the Democrats because they are the mega cancer and at war literally with our basic values and are promoting every form of transgender the the office. I went in to work out first got a gym here at the office. And I saw the state
Starting point is 01:05:49 police and ice. Right when you turn in on the road to our office. With a truckload of what were probably legal is being put in handcuffs. Was it. Large Ford double cab truck. And I they had their mask on, the ice, and I almost pulled over and got some video and I was just, no, I've got to get to work plus my doses going on anyways. It's so funny to imagine that Alex Jones comes across government agents in face masks stopping
Starting point is 01:06:16 vehicles and apprehending people and he's telling this story as a positive thing. He thought about taking video of it but not to make a documentary about how the police state is upon us. He wanted to record the event so he could shut the people up who were saying that Trump isn't deporting enough non-white people. That's crazy. He can't act like this. And like, how can he not, like, for a minute, give the appearance of being like, man, I'm worried that people are gonna just realize that I'm contradicting my entire career. Like how can you not be scared in that moment? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I don't know. I think there's there's something weird with these people that I don't understand, which is an overwhelming confidence, but an unwillingness to like it's not real. Okay. And I'll tell you how I know it's not real confidence, because real confidence eventually requires a heat check. Like if Steph Curry is hitting four or five heat threes in a row, they're all consistent. He's got to take one that's like, am I actually just made of superpowers today? It's got to be a heat check. You know, NBA
Starting point is 01:07:19 Jam, my own fire. Absolutely. Am I on fire? Like Trump should be like, I was I was in those lists. What are you gonna do about it? Heat check. You know, that's confidence. Alex being like none of this makes any fucking sense. I don't care. Follow him. Don't follow him. We're gonna move on with our lives. You know what I think that down this road is hubris. It is absolutely hubris. And I think I think that it's folly. But I think more what you're seeing is like, this guy is a fucking supplement salesman. He knows that enough people are going to be tricked by whatever placebo shit. Like, hey, if I sell 500 orders of this shit, maybe two people will be mad. Who gives a shit?
Starting point is 01:08:05 Yeah. Like, he just knows. It doesn't matter. Maybe two or three people are gonna be like, hey man, isn't this the police state? Weren't you mad about the Department of Transportation being on the road and now you're fine with federal agents and masks putting people in a truck
Starting point is 01:08:22 in handcuffs that you think are probably immigrants. Yeah. You know, like maybe a couple people get pissed off about it in the audience, but the other 490, you know, whatever define. It's supposed to be like for him, it's supposed to be important. It's supposed to be real. It's supposed to be more important. And for this to be what it is, like to hear him say, like, I'll like what he likes and
Starting point is 01:08:43 I'll oppose what I don't like is the same as admitting like I didn't like it when the Cubs traded away Schwab. I loved Kyle Schwab. I thought he was great on the Cubs. I didn't I'm not going to stop it. I'm not going to like now we've changed the you know, this is supposed to be about principle not fandom. It turns out it's about fandom. It's just fandom. So as for that Trump thing though, like I guess it's good that Alex is gonna say that good things are good and bad things are bad But I don't know why this is a revelation that needed soul-searching to come to right Shouldn't that be what he's always done or is this an accidental confession that up to this point? He's lied about stuff Trump did in order to make him look better to the audience, right? He's saying he's gonna call good things good and bad things bad As if that's a change in behavior like previously he was saying that bad things were good Inquiring minds get a little suspicious
Starting point is 01:09:35 Because it's a little too obvious like it's it seems like what he is trying to imply that he is going to do is no longer say Trump is doing a 150 percent of what we like, he's only doing 85% of what we like. Yeah, and shit, it might be 70. Right? Yeah. Which is the same now. Yeah, I mean, he's terrorizing a lot of the people that I want terrorized.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Right, which is good. Yeah, and I know that that wouldn't come about without him. That's good He's probably gonna terrorize people that I don't want him to terrorize though, so that's bad Yeah, but it's a necessary compromise that we're just gonna need to make right But he's gonna bomb people that I don't want him to bomb to and that's good or bad wait what what do I believe? I believe that What do I believe? I believe that Children are the future Treat them well
Starting point is 01:10:32 Why I felt that coming for it. I couldn't remember exactly what the next line was So Alex he has a theory yeah, he's got okay It's a good one, And that is that hey listen up Mm-hmm every time there's a false flag that gets us into a war What's involved? Yeah water it's always boats these boats they get us into trouble these boats I mean thinking of the Lusitania. I I USS Liberty, yes, I don't have enough information to dispute that so it's always boats It's always boats Alex thinks there's a boat situation on our gotta be a rise somewhere. So all the forces are in the final
Starting point is 01:11:13 positioning stages For hitting them with bunker busters they respond hit our bases even if they don't somebody else false flag You know that they have lots of countries with Iranian militias in them that we've got bases in so can easily be done and the They don't. Somebody else false flag. You know that lots of. Countries with Iranian militias and we've got bases and so can easily
Starting point is 01:11:32 be done. And they can be blamed on him. But I think knowing the Iranians, they will hit our bases. They will attack the aircraft carriers, so there won't be any need to false flag. And now they've got the limits
Starting point is 01:11:44 up front, schooning around there in the Gulf right by the Iranians. It was supposed the Iranians. It was supposed to be decommissioned next month. Just Hey, don't I look pretty? Don't you want to hit me with the torpedo or with a gunboat? Or with ballistic missiles. And remember the Germans. And then after the
Starting point is 01:12:47 the bitch and then oh my god you sunk our ship we're coming into World War one ship come on bud and the Russians have discovered intelligence that the Ukrainians are planning to a false flag on a US ship in the Baltic how would that make any sense and how we get into the Spanish-American War 1898 boats blowing up the main boat how we get into Vietnam officially 64 gold batonkin oh USS Liberty was a failed false flag because the ship wasn't saying it's easier to blow up the Iranians are going to attack the Nimitz all about the boats it's always a boat wild yeah The sea is an untamed territory. I wonder if all of those boats aren't actually completely useless in any kind of real situation
Starting point is 01:13:32 because anything that you can hack is ultimately the weak point, right? So like they have to be completely unhackable, which can you even do? Um, I don't, I don't know about completely, but I think you can get pretty close. I think that, yeah, I think military systems are pretty close. That's dangerous. Sure. That's dangerous.
Starting point is 01:13:53 We shouldn't be allowing people to have these machines. So OK, if I understand you correctly, they should all just go in canoes? Yeah, I think ultimately either... Can you hack any plane? Either we're gonna have to turn off the lights to fight. Because people want to fight, I guess. For some reason. And then they can fight in a way that will allow...
Starting point is 01:14:18 Or we're just gonna use computers to hit each other from a distance. That's no fun. Nobody wants to do that. Yeah, I don't know if hitting people in the dark is that fun either. Hey, listen, I'm not advocating hitting people in the dark. Yeah, I don't know if sitting and attacking people with computers is that different than you know, drones have been around for quite a while. Wow, but I mean the fight is for the people who want to fight, you know, but they're not actually fighting. Now they're convincing people to like, type, type, type. So what
Starting point is 01:14:50 it sounds like to me is that you're arguing that violent video games ruined the world. Um, I think maybe because those kids need to learn how to fight. I think you're right. We kept them inside for too long. Now we're all going to die because of it. So interestingly, you're going against your From earlier, I think I think they were right. I'm glad we relitigated there We go So this seems to be a big theory that Alex is running with on this episode that the USS Nimitz is being put out to See as a ploy to get someone aligned with Iran to attack it. So we create this justification for a larger scale war
Starting point is 01:15:23 Sure, it's an interesting theory and it's always about the boats. And it made me think of something. It reminded me very strongly of something that I had heard recently. Goblin from Texas, you're on the air, go ahead. Yes sir, this is just one blessing to be on air with you sir, I've been waiting a while. So I feel like the Holy Spirit has led me to just say this because I don't think anyone's really had a Similar experience or has similar information. So I think that one we already are past the brink of total war I think that
Starting point is 01:15:56 the Options are very limited and the only way that we get out of this is all ahead Backstop we need to stop now and I think the way that they're going to fall slaggers into this is they're gonna go after the Nemeth I think that that we're gonna pull a USS Liberty if you look back in history the way they've gone involved the US involved in World Wars since World War one has been submarine warfare you had it's all about the boats Hold the fucking phone hold the fuck
Starting point is 01:16:33 11 what are we doing? What's a plane but a boat? I? Guess I retract my statement airboat fair enough I mean I spruce goose I feel like we I feel like he's most important false flag was 9-eleven right I feel like his most important false flag was 9-11, right? Directly related to his career. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not like in the grand scheme of the universe, but for him specifically, he's identifiable as the 9-11 was an inside job guy. Yeah, which is definitely Israel did it now, by the way.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Oh, God. Things have shifted a little bit for Alex. Jesus Christ. He's really into Israel having done it. There we go. But there it is. No sure that wasn't a boat. But the rest of them. But that. Okay never mind. You know what I gotta yeah I'm fine I'm fine and they're all boats even in the sky. Alex thinks that the 777 attacks on the London underground yeah yeah that was also false flies were under boats yeah okay train boats train boats yep so anyway Alex is just stealing a theory from the day before
Starting point is 01:17:35 this caller was on the day before goblins from Texas K a week told him about the Nimitz and write it down how it's always boats Just turns around flips it that is that is an impressive turnaround time. Yeah. Yeah, so on this this 18th this episode Alex Gets a little bit mad And I think part of the reason is because Trump sucks and then the other part is because his dad's getting sued And I feel really bad about, I'm not gonna play a bunch of clips of him complaining about his dad getting sued because he's doing this like, my dad had a heart attack and they know that and they're coming after him, they're gonna kill him. They're trying to kill my dad.
Starting point is 01:18:20 And I don't know what his dad's health situation is, and it really bums me out. I'm sure that if Bernie Madoff had a heart attack, people would be like, ah, he had a heart attack, but he also stole a billion dollars, so fuck that guy. Yeah, look, I'm not trying to defend Alex's dad, he sucks. But I think that it's just gross to hear Alex talking this way, trying to exploit his family's health situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't want any part of it.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Yeah. But I do want all of this, where Alex pretends that he is making the air in the studio cold. And I've never at a gut cellular level been this sick to my stomach. I mean, I'm sick to my stomach right now. And I'm somebody the most terrible stuff happens. That doesn't happen. I've got really serious nerves. Ice water most of the time in my veins. I mean, I let myself get angry. It's real when I get energetic and make a point, but I allow myself sounds like something that's real, illustrate that and have the energy a lot of times so I can keep working.
Starting point is 01:19:26 So it's all real but I'm cold as ice at the bottom line for the truth and I cannot suppress my literal nausea right now because the danger is so huge. Just like I told you last Tuesday. I said, Oh, it's going down. We're going to hit our red. You can feel it. Oh, what the criminal Reaper standing behind me? I'm just like 50 below in here right now. Oh That's me allowing my
Starting point is 01:20:16 Psychic connection to the Holy Spirit to let myself go ahead and just open the gate to the ethereal now. It's 3040 below in here. I can feel the temperature dropping literally right now That's a death that was a good time to play him out of here now I like that some cool jazz for you oh my god whatever you do get the word out Paul Revere's only the truth can set us free we're right back oh my god that even sounded like a lounge singer only the truth could set us free. All right, this next one I wrote. All right, my Paul Revere's.
Starting point is 01:20:47 This next one I wrote. Tweet out links to my show, you cool cats. Oh my God. Yeah, so that vibe is perfect. Honestly, if he hadn't done that plug at the end and just would have written out the music. This little jazz, yeah. To the break with him talking about how the Holy Spirit is making it cold in the room
Starting point is 01:21:09 Because he started thinking about ice water in my veins Yes He started to think about that and then he kind of remembered probably watching like a ghost hunter show where they like walk into a ghost And it's colder there the Grim Reaper is here the Holy Spirit. I've opened the gate. It is fucking cold Yeah, blah blah blah blah. Beep. Boop. It is a little bit like walking backwards through a Rube Goldberg machine. You know, like you can see like this is where the fan hit the thing and then that rolled the ball down. That's where the thought came from. And then you go back and you're like,, this is where the fan came up and it but it's fun. It is fun
Starting point is 01:21:48 It's a lot more fun and it's accompanied by weird noises. You don't get that Always not always not always you make it a little bit the marble falling on sure track or whatever That's a satisfying noise. There is that this is an unsatisfying There is that this is an unsatisfying Yeah, not a good not a good at Rube Goldberg no so Alex has some interviews on this episode and one we're not gonna talk about really at all. He has an interview with Syrian girl, okay, who sucks a Syrian girl, or she's a sort of a celebrity. That's what I was worried. We've talked about her before right she's come up a bit in the past right
Starting point is 01:22:30 But I've not seen all that much of her Lately and it seemed painfully obvious to me that she's paying for airtime Yeah, or Alex like just got hit with I don't care anymore. He's checked the fuck out. He lets her talk for Almost entire breaks he like not even Budding in or yeah, and he's just got sleeping his sandwich lost the will to live Yeah, well, I mean it's been a rough couple and probably if he is eating his sandwich Does not even feel the need to bud in to the point where he's chewing on Mike. Brutal. Full on underneath the table. But she has something that is really interesting that she highlights kind of and that is that all of Alex's
Starting point is 01:23:16 conversation partners have a fundamental problem with him that they're not unpacking. Yeah. And that is, they all don't support going to war with Iran. Right. But they say that Netanyahu is lying about how Iran is close to getting a bomb. Right. Getting the nuclear bomb. Right. They say that that's propaganda being used to, you know, like the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq sure create a justification to go to war sure Alex firmly believes that Iran has a bunch of nuclear weapons already Yeah, and they never really deal with this difference Which ironically is both of them agreeing that it's propaganda just from different
Starting point is 01:24:01 Right. Yeah. Well, they agree that something's bullshit. Yeah. But like, if they hold these perspectives, then like, they don't see eye to eye at all. Because if these people who say that Netanyahu is lying about Iran trying to get the bomb, if they believed what Alex believes, which is that Iran already has a bunch of nukes, their position might be different. Right. Yeah. I mean, essentially, it is the propaganda.
Starting point is 01:24:29 We both know that the propaganda is happening because the propaganda is either some or soon. But on the other side is you saying there's none and me saying there's all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They agree on the premise that there's something trying to get people to support a war with Iran. Right. But beyond that point, they are totally on different pages. We agree.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Fuck that guy. Also, we agree. Fuck you. Yeah. So there is one guest that we are going to talk a little bit about just because I thought this appearance was just remarkable. And that is Dr. Kirk Elliott, Alex's gold sponsor. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Okay. How do you do it? They spend a long time selling gold on this episode where the world war is breaking out and all this stuff. Yeah. Seems interesting to me that they spend probably an entire hour of the show doing a infomercial for gold. I mean, I imagine that guy felt the signal go up whenever whenever he hears like, Oh, bombs are dropping. He's like, Alex, we got to sell some gold, buddy. We got to strike while the bomb is hot. Yeah, if I were him, I would just put
Starting point is 01:25:38 a thermostat in Alex's studio. When the temperature drops, it's gold time time to sell so I found this fascinating and that is that like Alex is clearly being like you motherfucker sell gold He is so Frustrated that Kirk Elliott is not a closer. Oh my god And so so look continuing tying it into Powell, the Federal Reserve, Trump's ending our surrender to the World Trade Organization. I should just set this up a tiny bit.
Starting point is 01:26:14 And this is after Kirk has just done like a pretty long stretch of like, now a lot of things, their prices dependent on supply and demand. But a little bit later, I'm going to tell you what really drives up the price of gold and silver. Right, right, right. He's dancing around a little bit too much and Alex is sick of it.
Starting point is 01:26:35 He just wants him to go for the jugular. Connect it. Yeah. The globalist, all the the key to how this affects that as you look into that crystal ball of yours as a leading economist, U. S and global money supply surged to
Starting point is 01:26:54 record highs. Dollar hits three year low. What that means Singapore takes aim at Comex. And L M L B M a gold markets. Why is China buying so much gold and what it signals for global investors? And you the you want to revise your forecast that have been trending exactly when they would go up the last two years except under you you under predicted and you told me privately which you told me what it would be and I wrote it down it was actually dead on uh so why you don't want to hype people up and
Starting point is 01:27:38 steer them wrong but it and I do this myself the only thing I get wrong I steer people is underestimating things because the truth sounds too crazy. I'll kind of dial it back subconsciously. And so, yes, you sell gold and silver. Yes, you have the highest ratings, but just tell people what you privately tell me, even before this kicked off. And we're not saying that's gonna happen.
Starting point is 01:27:58 And I'm not saying you're being deceptive, but it is a form of deception to, you know, under promise over deliver, which everybody does. you know you think something's gonna work you still want to hedge your bets Hey asshole asshole You're lying to the audience if you don't tell them that gold is gonna be 20 million dollars an ounce. This is amazing Yes, this is because I've actually like squeeze these fools No, this is I've been in situations where I'm in a sales situation Like learning the ropes of how these people do a thing and the guy who's the actual salesman is right there
Starting point is 01:28:34 And he has to try and tell me Dude, here's how you should be selling without telling the people I'm trying to sell to that. I am selling them Yes, you know, like that like navigation of like, here are some levers that you can try that might be a thing to say to them about how great it is. Yes. All those private estimations that you make that are so much higher than what we talk about.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Wink, wink, wink. Right? Hey, you're doing these people a disservice if you're not telling them how great everything is going to be forever. Yeah. The problem is that like, probably some of those salespeople that you're talking about, at least had some subtlety or some like panache to what they're doing. Some of them. Whereas like Alex is, this is blunt. This is really obvious. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:27 And that's kind of the entire vibe of this interview that the two of them have is like Alex just begging Kirk to like push this more aggressively. And I take one thing away from that. Yeah. Alex works on a percentage. Yeah, he must. If he had a flat rate, he would not care
Starting point is 01:29:44 how much gold or silver Kirk sells. Alex is in deep sales mode here. Yeah. And I think that means he gets a cut. Yeah, that would have to be I mean, that's the only that's the only motivation I've seen get people to behave like this. Yeah. He has he has this like really strong energy of Like you know how if you go in for like I don't know Let's say a timeshare or something like that sure sure sure sure you'll have someone who's really nice to you who talks to you And then there's the closer sure right yep Alex feels like the guy who does the work of getting you ready for the closer Yeah, who's mad that the closers not closing he's like I've done all this work now. I have primed this audience
Starting point is 01:30:28 They think the world is gonna be on fire in three days Sell them the fucking gold asshole. I can't imagine Being faced with two people imagine being faced with two people one of whom says Well things change up, down, you can't predict the future. And the other one who says, gold will only get more valuable forever and you'll be happy all the time. I can't imagine being like, well, I mean,
Starting point is 01:30:55 I'm gonna have to go with the guy I'm gonna be happy all the time with, come on! And the guy who's like, chaos is a ladder. Who are you, Peter Baelish? What are you doing Bailish? Chaos will only make our medals more valuable All right So literally no matter what objection that I give to you will find a way to turn it back into a not no Are you saying that you will not take no for an answer?
Starting point is 01:31:19 Yes So This is what I would say just there's a great little moment in here where Alex is so Fucking exasperated with Kirk. I just think this is really funny. Maybe maybe it's an indication that my tastes are off the international, you know the IMF the g7 nations the international bankers all of them are almost in cahoots, it feels like against Trump to make his policies not succeed. There's no doubt. And so let's stop here and elaborate. You
Starting point is 01:31:58 always like to be conservative and say it looks like no, it's 100%. The private Federal Reserve is owned 80 plus percent and the only audit they had when it was created in 1913 by the Rothschilds European banks, Jerome pal, since the private Federal Reserve is owned 80 plus percent and the only audit they have when it was created in 1913 by the Rothschild European Bank. Jerome Palstead's private
Starting point is 01:32:12 board of it. He's part of the other boards as well. You've seen him testify to Congress Bernanke and others. They want to tell Congress the trillions go. Just give it to these farm banks to our shareholders. This isn't a
Starting point is 01:32:21 PowerPoint. They have lowered interest rates for the EU. Other countries have lowered interest rates, but they won't do it for us to sabotage his recovery. Right then they the U. S. and the U. S. have lowered interest rates for the EU. Other countries have lowered interest rates, but they won't do it for us to sabotage his recovery. Then they manipulate him into
Starting point is 01:32:33 joining this war. Pushing Iran into blocking the street or moves, which they say they're getting ready to do that. Their minimum 130 conservative probably higher. Makes sense that will cause massive inflation. Uh and that will accelerate the recession. We were already in
Starting point is 01:32:48 into a depression and derail everything he was trying to do. And you would think Trump is sophisticated enough that Howard Ludwig and others would be explaining this to him. And this morning is like, Well, we're not gonna have a long
Starting point is 01:32:59 war. We're just gonna take out their nuclear sites. Those already taken out, supposedly. Okay other than this, you know, the bunker buster they got to use, and then they'll attack the and then I'm watching our recovery and his success and American sovereignty burned down and the globalist bankers, they had us maneuvered and Moody's didn't lower our credit rating on the course to collapse for sure, but as soon as he turns course
Starting point is 01:33:31 and it's winning and everybody's lining up behind us, we're winning the trade war and he's getting a lot of political agreements through it as well and American soft powers back. Here comes the globalist to grab victory from the jaws of defeat and make us a data nation under their hegemonic control. And there's Benjamin Netanyahu laughing the entire time. Is that what you're saying? Dr.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Elliott? Exactly. Couldn't have said it any better myself. I mean, it's awful, right? And so to me, when you look at this, okay, this, these are the accelerants that are causing the economy to decline, gold and silver to go up, and every asset basically that's a tangible thing. And that's the only silver lining is we know what's going on. We've been accurate. You got to eliminate out of lemons.
Starting point is 01:34:19 That's why you get into gold and silver right now. And you're the place to go. Hands down, highest rating, best prices are done. Go for blood, you asshole. Listen, buddy, I don't want you to sound like that. When I see you, I wanna think of the Six Flags guy. I wanna hear, I want people thinking gold is coming from all over.
Starting point is 01:34:37 I want people having gold coming out of their nose. You are the gold guy. Don't give me half-assed bullshit. Hey Kirk, you're boring. Right? You're boring! What is happening? Puh! I gotta talk for two minutes straight and then you start talking and I have to take
Starting point is 01:34:52 back over to do a plug. I have to direct, I have to do the call to action and all of this explanation. What the fuck are you here for? Say people will be rich if they buy gold. It is the simplest thing to do. We've been selling gold for Millennia yeah, and I know that we've been saying that Trump is gonna fix everything with the economy That's not your job, but the globalist came and fucked it all up exactly they did it yep And now you need to buy gold again exactly come on Kirk Kirk
Starting point is 01:35:23 Catch up man. He he sucks he does suck this is bad I just there's something really special to me about the moments where Alex is like I'm surrounded by fucking incompetence I mean it's your own fault but yeah I agree with you yeah you surround yourself with incompetence on purpose there part of is that. And then part of it is also no one else will work with him. The pool of potential recruits is low. Yeah, I mean Kirk Elliott was selling gold on Nazi shows and QAnon shit prior to getting called up to the big leagues with folks like Alex. So like, I mean, he'll just do it with anybody you know
Starting point is 01:36:05 He'll take he'll take whatever he can he can make a little money off of but like Alex is so bad and so dumb But in this instance. He's hyper competent. Mm-hmm. He is so much better at like dude We're selling gold. That's what we're doing here Use these news stories and the shit that I've built. This is the quilt that I've been building Mm-hmm. I've been sewing this for you. Yeah now fucking use it And Kirk just he seems to not get it and there's something so pure about that exhale that There's something just amazing about that exhale that there's something just amazing about that yeah it's the it's the invert like I was telling you about physical therapy
Starting point is 01:36:49 whenever he put my spine back and away oh like I couldn't control that that's the that's the opposite that's the on the wheel of noises you make without any control over him that one's the one where it's like Jesus fucking Christ yeah full-on exasperation stress noise Anti-stress noise and I've been doing this fucking shit for 30 years Do you not understand how this game works? Come on ding-dong Ted Anderson was better than you I wonder if there's a part of him that is like I am never in conversations about where I'm truly talented, which is sales.
Starting point is 01:37:26 When I was in sales, they would have conferences and people would celebrate you for like, oh, your clothes rate is blah, or your sales numbers are blah, and people go ape shit. With Alex, people come up to him and they're like, oh, you're right about stuff, but they're never like, you hit your fucking numbers, man. If there's one thing about you, Alex, that I respect, it's that your quota is too low. It's too low, because you nail it. Well, I wonder if he does.
Starting point is 01:37:52 And then I also wonder that, but that's not the- I also think that at those sales conferences and get togethers, you would not be celebrating a guy who's like fake crying and begging people and saying, I really need- You are way off, my man. Those sales conferences are the most craven and desperate places that I have ever been to in my entire life.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Yeah, I know that. But they're also about image. And I think that if somebody begged for sales, I think they might be not seen as that cool. Sometimes, sometimes. Then again, how are you really going to know? I think they might be not seen as that cool sometimes sometimes then again How are you really gonna know is it like for a lot of these people though? They feel like anything is begging for sales You know there's never because if you say like you can't take no for an answer
Starting point is 01:38:35 Then you're implying that you'll just eventually get to the like please up my please buy this from me, please Please buy this. Well, mean, I saw Glen Gary going rock Glen Ross a number of years ago Yeah, and as I understand a sale is a sale always be selling so like, you know If you're begging someone or if you're cool To sale the sale, you know what they say they you know what they say about a in baseball You know, it's singles a single doesn't matter if you hit it a hundred miles an hour You have bunted it. Mm-hmm. It's not gonna show up in the scorebook how hard you hit it, right? Although now it does it does show up in the scorebook how hard you hit it
Starting point is 01:39:13 Yeah, so I guess you can cry and beg people you're still hitting your quota long as your numbers are good I don't care what you're doing now at the same time. I still think Alex's numbers are bad. I agree with you, but what you're doing. Now at the same time, I still think Alex's numbers are bad. I agree with you. But this brings us to the end of this exploration. And one thing that I think is really notable is on the 17th, Alex is being super, like, let's all be Nazis.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Yeah. Let's all, anti-Semitism is cool. Nick Fuentes, you can't call him a bad guy. He gets it. This is the medicine we need. Sure. And that does not This is the medicine we need. And that does not follow along into the 18th. The 18th, he is not like continuing this thread, which actually I think is worse. Because it's confusing. If you're in the audience and you're watching these shows, if Alex was just like, fuck it, we hate Jews now. He kept that going,
Starting point is 01:40:03 at least you'd have a rock to stand on. You know, like, okay, this is what this show is doing now. Right, right, right. And you could choose whether you wanted to be a part of it or not. Right. But by doing this pretty explicitly Nazi demonstration on the 17th and then pretending this didn't happen on the 18th, it's kind of gaslighting the audience a little bit. You know, it reminds me of, in episodic fashion, it reminds me of a very special episode in Saved by the Bell where it's like, didn't she get addicted to drugs and we never dealt with the fall
Starting point is 01:40:37 out of that? There was just one episode where it's like, don't do drugs, and then we just moved on, everything was totally fine. I'm so excited. I'm so excited I'm so full of hate right like there should have been we gotta have a follow-up like is she okay like is you know? Is she got a treatment plan? What's rehab like she was fine? She was fine. She was fine. She was fine Alex is not no no no no very much, and we should replace it with Tory I Think that's a great idea. Yeah Anyway, oh no, that's not good then Alex is going to be in Showgirls. Might be interesting.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Depends on what scenes you're talking about. So we'll get to start it on writing that movie. And we'll be back but until then we have a website. Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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