Knowledge Fight - #1057: June 21-22, 2025

Episode Date: July 18, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan witness a 24-hour span where Alex goes all the way from "we talked Trump out of bombing Iran" to "Trump bombed Iran, just as I predicted."

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I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around We're supposed to put the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? I have to be honest with you Oh, yeah, I don't have a bright. You don't have a bright spot today, but I do have a dark spot Okay, I'm pointing at you. Yeah, I can feel staring you straight in the face You're not wearing your pinky ring though, so it doesn't feel as strong right? Yeah, and it's because I don't deserve to be wearing a pinky ring cuz I am my own dark spot dark now here's what I'm here's what I'm saying okay um I

have not uh bought a switch to you have not and I told myself what's the rush who cares who cares there's nothing to play on it there's nothing to play on I don't like Mario racing I don't like the carts so I can't I can't drive. I don't want to do that. So I told myself who cares It doesn't matter until Donkey Kong comes out. That's true. Now we are sitting here today on the day that Donkey Kong releases Yeah, and I realize you don't have one. I don't have one and if I had acted sooner There's a chance that I could have one in place to play Donkey Kong on right now, right? But I didn't I didn't I didn't believe that to much today would exist in the past, right? All right, and so now I'm left with no switch to and no Donkey Kong and I have no one to blame but myself

You know what? I think you should do what I like to do is I like to try for Kate. All right present Dan Disappointed in past Dan. Future Dan, always possible to pick things up. You know what I'm saying? That's the way you got to view it. Past Dan, he's a real piece of shit. You're never going to see him again though. So that's nice.

Doesn't really exist. Doesn't really exist. He's gone. Present Dan, you know what you need to do. Future Dan, get on it. Okay. Yep. That's a okay pep talk.

I'm trying. I'm going to go get those bananas. Go go get them go get that Kong. So it's your bright spot my bright spot very lovely down-to-earth a Wonderful day date with my wife yesterday. We walked over to the farmers market. Sure We got some ice cream cones waffle cone my friend fresh waffle cone Yeah, and they put ice cream in it. Obviously we didn't just buy them in a bag ice cream cones, waffle cone my friend. Fresh waffle cone? Yeah. And they put ice cream in it obviously. We didn't just buy them in a bag. What kind of ice cream?

I had milk and cookies. She went with the raspberry sorbet. So they have at the farmers market, there's someone selling ice cream? Yeah. Interesting. It was like 90 degrees. That's exactly when you want ice cream. It was a perfect day and then we made ourselves a nice little dinner.

It was fantastic. Couldn't have been better. Made a nice little dinner from things you got at the farmers market? Some things, but mainly not. No, just old groceries. Sure. It's nice. There's, you know, one of the upsides, I guess, of living in a city is those farmers markets

do pop up. Yeah. And it is cool to go in and see some nice vegetables. It is. It's fun. It's fun. There was a guy with fish and you're like, what a frozen fish guy, but it wasn't frozen. It was fresh fish. A fish was frozen. Yeah. Makes more sense to me than an ice cream guy. That's I'm less surprised to hear that there was a fish person. Yeah. A fish monger, a grocer, uh, these types of things. A green grocer? A green grocer, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Bagels. Ice cream person. It seems, I guess, they're probably

just scooping it, right? Yeah. It's not a soft serve machine. They weren't making it in the moment. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was not being churned. Good. Yeah. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We'rehuh. We're gonna be talking about June 21st and 22nd All right, 25. Okay. We are here in a situation where Trump is about to bomb Iran, right and the Civil War in the United States is still ongoing and I can go Jean Heckman. Yes but these Alex has Reported to us that the fever of war has broken the war fever

Yeah, and that Trump has realized like I gotta give Iran time to negotiate. This is you know He's played up our dear leader as being a masterful peacemaker. Yes. Yes. Meanwhile behind the scenes Trump has already decided I'm gonna bomb. Not so much a peacemaker. And that is coming too ahead. Right. And so we're going to talk, we're talking about Saturday and Sunday. Saturday is before the bombing and then Sunday is after. So we'll see how that vibe goes.

Okay. But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. That's a great idea. So first, happy birthday Scruffy Corgi. May we enjoy more Knowledge fight episodes to come. Love, chunky chipmunk. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Dr. Steven Jones. Whenever we work out our chests together, we are truly working on Dr. Jones' big naturals. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much. Thank you. And Sierra from Brooklyn who hates Trump and Adam jokes. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And Sierra from Brooklyn who hates Trump and Adam jokes. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much too. I finally caught up to the present, but started listening on the day y'all were on Stelter because I had COVID and had never heard of Alex Jones, but the podcast sounded cool to my fevered brain. Min Sung is real pronounced Min Sung, uh, where you make an O with your mouth

but say uh. Thank you so much, you're an auto technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bom bom bom bom bom. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. That really

is our target demo. People with fevers. Fever brains. Why would I do this? Well, you weren't in your right mind at the time. It's fun now, but you got to be in a different place to get there. Yeah. So we start off on the 21st, this is Saturday, Alex has no business doing the show on his day off. Not really. Whatever, he's doing a show. Why not? And he's discussing a little bit of a conflict that I've mentioned is present and cannot

be resolved. Right. And that is that everyone on the right who's calling for war they're saying Iran is about to have a bomb right and Alex is saying they have a hundred bombs right they got all the nukes already so many fucking bombs yeah and so Alex is discussing how he knows that okay I know people are smart do you a lot of people are intelligent are they but most people are smart in this area or that area they're in form in a few areas but not a lot of other areas.

They don't have general historical and current knowledge. And I know the media will kind of put out two different stories where it's supposed to decide which of the two is true. I didn't start saying this month that Iran has atomic weapons. I've been saying it for 15 years. And I got it directly from a source in CENTCOM. And then I, over the years, talked to other people in intelligence and in the first Trump administration and others, and they said, yes, that's indeed true.

And that's a very closely guarded secret. Now, I have a track record of having a lot of inside sources on many big stories that later breaker and confirmed. But if you just look at the logic of all of this, you're supposed to either before I ran or for Israel. And if you are for Israel, you say, yeah, they're always two weeks away for 25 years, and if you're pro Iran, you say, oh no, yeah, they're always two weeks away for 25 years. And if you're pro-Iran, you say, oh, no, no, they don't have a nuclear program.

Even though they've officially had one before to try to get a bomb. Well, I don't go with the two narratives. I go with the information I have. And to put it simply. When you are manufacturing. We-grade uranium and other materials that can be used for different types of bombs, atomic hydrogen as others, that when that's being produced, it's very hard to contain it, and it gets in the air and spies can get in and on the ground and collect the air many different ways but through a vent in the front of the car's grill and then it goes into a scoop and gets the samples

that are then that's good process through different types of spectrometers and other devices then they can also scan from the air and from satellites, but it's even more accurate on the ground to actually get the samples. And that's what I was told by folks I really trust, and I'll just leave it at that. So in the interest of treating Alex as fairly as possible, I will get his back on the fact that he hasn't just started saying that Iran has nuclear weapons. He said that a long time though the importance of them having these weapons it varies depending on the world situation Sure, sometimes it's a huge deal and sometimes it's brushed aside, but either way, it's not a new development. He's right He's not making that up, right?

Alex actually thinks pretty much everyone has nukes and that they're an outdated form of weaponry compared to the magic laser stuff that we secretly have now sure So yeah, everyone anyone saying that he's a Johnny come lately to this ideas is not right Then what was Stuxnet about who knows fair enough? It was a false flag probably that makes sense So I want to talk about Alex's evidence that backs up his idea that Iran has the bomb okay He says that they have readings from these snoopers on the ground from analyzing air captured by cars running around in Iran. Alex says that he has this from people he trusts and he's going to leave it at that.

And there's a really good reason that he's just leaving it at that. It's because this is just something that one of his relatives told him when he was a kid. That sounds right. He has no evidence about any of this data collected by snooper cars. This is just some stray gossip that he's passing along from one of his patriot ass relatives. Yeah. Um, so he has talked about that, uh, in some fairly recent episodes where he's, he's like, you know, you could choose to believe this stuff or not. This is what my family told me. Yeah. Um, and I don't, that has very strong comeback vibes. Do you know what I mean? Whenever something exists

mainly because I can hear somebody having a conversation and then somebody being pushed into a corner and somehow coming up with, they already have the bomb. And that's, you know what I'm saying? Sure. And it's even more comeback energy when you're like I have it from high-level sources That I trust and I'll leave it at that we don't need to talk about it any further You just have to trust me right now the image that you want to give off is that I don't want to betray the trust Of these very legitimate very high-level sources, right? But what you're actually doing is like I don't want to admit to you that it was my uncle

Yeah, I don't want to admit that it was just some random shit talk no some guy I was talking to told me why don't you check what I mean they were high level it's something cool yeah so everyone is either saying Alex you're now you're saying that Iran has a bomb or they're accusing him of being crazy for saying that Iran has a bomb okay and he's trapped in this weird state. Now Trump comes out and says yesterday, we'll play the clip in a moment, that hey, Tulsi Gabbard's wrong, national intelligence is wrong, but their official assessment is wrong. They are building a bomb. They're very, very close.

Now that doesn't mean that I support Israel striking them or Trump dropping bunker busters. I'm not saying this now because I want to support Netanyahu's position. I've been saying it for 15 years because it's what I believe is accurate. Now, hold this thought in your mind out there for those of you who can't seem to understand this because I see a lot of you, millions and millions of you, when I talk about this yesterday, just shot a couple videos in my car talking about this. A lot of people, probably a third, can't understand this. If Israel says they're 15 days, now 14 days away from having it, and Trump says they're building it right now, why is it far out that I'm saying from my information they already have it?

This is chaos world, and there is no agreed upon reality that we share. There is no message discipline from the administration whatsoever. Trump appointed Tulsi to be the director of national intelligence and she testified in March that Iran had not restarted their nuclear weapons program. She's in a position to know all of the classified sensitive information and she was clear about this perspective. Trump doesn't want to live in that reality So he came out and just said she was wrong What you gonna do the person he chose to run the intelligence operations of the country can't be trusted to make a determination About the intelligence operations of our country and he just big-dogged her The day after Trump came out and said Tulsi was wrong

She came out and said that Iran could have a nuke within weeks or months and that the media had taken her out of Context that testimony for March sure her position apparently has always been that Iran has the materials to make the bomb But wasn't pursuing it and I guess if you chose to pursue the bomb It would take weeks or months for you to do that from the point of the materials that they have Right ready, right This is a form of gaslighting, where a neutral state of affairs can be reported differently depending on how you want someone to feel about it. In this case, if Iran is trying to develop nuclear technology for peaceful purposes and

doing nothing wrong, they could debatably be months away from making a bomb at any time. It might just take a few months to divert these efforts from power generation to making a bomb, so in a completely peaceful world where Iran is following the letter of the rules that everyone agreed to, you could still say that they were weeks or months away from building a bomb. All of the things Tulsi said could be true, but the point depends on how the things are being said. In March she testified that Iran had not restarted its weapons program because the goal was to

ease tensions between the United States and Iran. Now the goal is to justify attacking Iran, which Trump has already decided to do, so the messaging becomes focused on how they could make a bomb in weeks or months. As for Alex, it's crazy for him to say that Iran has nukes because it's not backed up by any legitimate sources, and if his position becomes more popular, it has a tendency to give war hawks a strong justification to invade. Like everyone spent years litigating weapons of mass destruction in Iraq as if them having weapons of mass destruction would have made everything justifiable.

And the reason for that is why people want to say that Iran has a bomb or is about to have a bomb because they feel like that would be justification for war. Yeah, I mean, I feel like you can kind of actually work backwards on this one. The reason to get a bomb is so people can't invade you without you going, I'm going to nuke you. So if we can invade them, they don't have a bomb. It's very simple. Yeah, maybe, maybe that logical.

Like Russia's not gonna invade Ukraine if Ukraine's like, we'll kill everybody. You know? I think that most of the time, that is a fine axiom. I don't know if it holds all the time, but it's generally a pretty good rule. I think that Alex, if his mentality is more widely accepted by the GOP hawkish types, if that were the mentality, we would be more likely to go to war with Iran.

Yeah. I think. And I think that he should know that he should understand that, but seems to be oblivious. Anyway, it was going to be Thursday or Friday that Alex said that Trump was going to attack Iran. It did not happen because Steve Bannon intervened. He got Trump to choose to negotiate. And so who's the good guys? Who's the bad guys here? Well, I don't like the Muthlers. And they're an unpopular dictatorship. Okay, that said, they're not expansionist. They're contained. Israel's wiped out

their proxy forces in Lebanon and Gaza and other areas. West Bank, the Houthis have surrendered at least not to attack our ships anymore to the US or made a deal. Same difference, right? And Israel wants to drag us in. Remember, nine days ago, oh, we're just taking other nuclear sites. Oh, no, now we want regime change, we won't negotiate. And then Trump said he wouldn't negotiate until Thursday after he had a two hour lunch with Steve Bannon. And I talked to Steve, he doesn't like to take credit for things, but

I talked to Steve on area yesterday, but also talked to him a little bit off air. And he says, well, he talked to the president and basically said he agrees with my analysis instead on, hits his similar analysis. And he said there's a lot of other people telling him too. He said he's obviously what's in the news is accurate. The majority of his generals and the chairman of the joint chiefs, Kane, are telling him, don't do this. And then he's got Corilla,

the head of CITCOM, who is telling him to do it and Hegs death, you know, is American patriot and fought the Middle East and highly decorated and he does not like the Mullahs and they're war fighters and Trump wanted generals that like to go to war. Well, he's got some Trump wanted generals who like to go to war. What? That's not supposed to be. Wait, hold on. What the fuck is happening? That's not the messaging we're supposed to have. He's the peace guy. Yeah, this is great. This is good stuff. So what Alex is trying to present is that the majority of the generals and the majority of the Joint Chiefs and all of them have cautioned Trump and he's not going to attack now. Yeah. Thanks to the efforts of people like

Steve Bannon intervening, Wiser Council has won the day. It's very clear that that is the messaging that we're receiving on this Saturday show. And Trump is good! Trump's real good. He's so good. No, I'm okay. Trump is good.

I'm proud of Trump. He's really trying to be a peacemaker. He's working for that hard behind the scenes and publicly what he says publicly is what he's doing behind the scenes. But the scenarios are too dangerous to continue down this road with full confrontation with Iran. They will block the street over Moose. They will attack our ships. We will end up going to full war with them.

It'll cause nuclear disasters, up these bases even conventional weapons Yes, Trump's good Trump's good and he's not the kind of guy who's gonna be saying one thing publicly and doing something secretly behind The scenes. I mean, it's not that he's not that kind of globalist type. It's it's really nice actually frankly if I was Alex this would be It's really nice actually, frankly, if I was Alex, this would be such a kind moment in its own way because here we have indisputable things that you have agreed to. I don't even need to be a part of this. You have said definitively that to be good, Trump must do these things. He did not do those things

Therefore he cannot be good. Do you have no choice you have locked yourself into this or else you have to introduce a whole new layer of like What's good? Yeah, exactly you're out. Are you kidding? That's what our whole show is No, I mean in terms of Was watching Alex Squirmer right right now. I mean in terms of Show is watching Alex squirm right right now I mean it's terms of what the purposes of this particular such a nation Yeah, he should he should recognize that this is going to be a deal breaker based on his own terms that he's set up exactly But we'll see if that happens we will on the Sunday show I will be shocked to find out whatever the answer may be so I think that

when a president gets elected or a political movement is more ascendant in a country, it can make people more vulnerable generally. I think that certainly immigrants, LGBTQ folk are in more danger now than they were before Trump was reelected. I think things have escalated. And I think that that is a normal thing to recognize. I think it's not a normal thing to think, if the president that I like doesn't get elected, I'm personally going to go to prison. And Alex thinks Alex thinks that. Well, and so does Steve Bannon, which is weird. If Trump doesn't succeed and Steve Bannon's openly said this when I was on the show a month ago, he said, you know, Trump doesn't succeed. We're both going to prison.

And I told my family that I never want to evacuate the United States. Um, and I'll go down with the ship, but gauging it. I mean, if it looks like a Republican isn't going to get in in three and a half years, I'm going to have to leave so I can continue to fight for the country as an exile. I mean, I'm having these discussions with my family, folks. I really want Trump to succeed. I mean, my eggs are in his basket.

I mean, he's the lifeboat. I'm in the North Atlantic and the water is 30 below zero. And you fall in that water and you stop breathing in about 10 seconds. You just sink. You are a totally unreliable source of information then your existence is predicated on Trump staying in power. That to me feels like Alex is just being, I'm compromised. What could possibly be corruptible in this scenario?

You have somebody in power, right? You have somebody in the fourth estate holding that power to account. Now it just so happens that that person holding that power to account is indebted so happens that that person holding that power to account is indebted beyond any and a reasonable degree Existentially right indebted ah, but as we have established the person in power is good So they welcome criticism thus allowing themselves to become greater than they were before

They would never throw you out of absolutely it is because Trump is so good that we can guarantee that his reasoning is not motivated. Yeah. All of this is really embarrassing a month later. We are living in the present day as we're recording this, not only in the wake of the release of Donkey Kong Bonanza, but we are also living in a time where Trump is lashing out at people who care about Epstein. And Alex is having to navigate those territories. And there's a real part of me that wants to speed up and be like, let's get to this. But I think that what's going on here is a prelude. It's an important piece of this entire chunk of time, which is Alex facing the harshest

wiggle he's ever had to try and wiggle. Like this is a disaster. Everything is falling apart. You can't support Trump. He's bombing Iran. He's lying to the media. He's lying to you. He is clearly hiding something

about this Epstein shit. He's lashing out at his own supporters about all this. All of this is the point of no return for Alex. There's only one thing left to do and it's to become the person you have been lying about being this whole time and abandon the entire political system entirely. And the reason why this is so difficult is that Alex does feel an existential indebtedness. You have to.

He is going to sink in this really cold water if there isn't someone like Trump whose power allows Alex to fly under the radar. He needs to make some sort of Aryan Faustian bargain if you will So I think I think that this is a really rich period of time and as much as I really really want to get to Epstein stuff. I really feel like we got to walk this path I mean, it's it is if I was going to compare the narratives that we are dealing with right now in Alex's life in their complexity and You know bitter absurdity I would describe it as bitter absurdity because I think I'm gonna have to go with like

Turgenev Like Chekhov we're talking like the cherry orchard levels of malaise that should Confound everyone. This is insane. It's insane. It's insane. It's ridiculous. Well, there is a feeling of this thing that I faked isn't real. And it's now become too obviously unreal.

And how does one deal with that? As Dostoevsky once said, every radio host is happy in the same way, if they're happy. But every unhappy radio host is unhappy in a completely unique way. So I think we can take that lesson from here. Sure. So looming in the background is the fact that

the guy in Minnesota shot those lawmakers and Alex is struggling with the fact that the guy in Minnesota shot those lawmakers and Alex is struggling with the fact that he was a fan of his and he's been calling the roommate of the shooter an actor. And this has been, this has worked a little bit, but there's more information coming out. And so Alex, he decides we're going decides, we're going to revisit this story. God damn. But all of you were watching last weekend at the same time with emergency transmission. And I laid out all the different angles and then I surmised and I said, looks like a Democrat party hit to get rid of Democrats they don't like.

And to be false flagged to be blamed on Trump. And if I had to guess, it's a CCP funded operation through the Democratic Party, which we now know from more federal documents that came out this week. The CCP literally stole the 2020 election with the Democrats and the CIA, all public now with the fake ballots.

And I'm telling you, Tim Walz is dangerous. And I said that he is a major suspect, not just because he appointed this guy to a board, not just because the guy's wife's a Democrat, all the connections and the way they came out day one and said he loves Trump, the shooter, the assassin, the Patsy probably, and that he loves Infowars. Oh, but he had all these no Kings flyers in his car. So now we're learning he was in a security company. How are we learning he was over in Gaza? International aid groups.

Classic MK ultra mo probably just drugged out of his mind. Probably not involved in any of it. You got to go out of the plastic mask at the door. All this reeks of an assassination plot operation with this guy as the Patsy. Alex is wrong about every claim that he's making in that clip. And more importantly, he's not really bringing in any new information. He's covering this story again in an attempt to solidify his narrative about it, but this is just repetitious. So Bolter wasn't involved in an intelligence company, but he did travel a bit overseas.

This mostly took the form of him going to do missionary work in the democratic Republic of the Congo, where he preached against LGBTQ folk. I watched an entire sermon that he delivered and I, I just don't think he's very good. Like he's clearly has a pretty right wing view on Christianity, but he also isn't that good. He's a bad preacher. I mean, if you're a good preacher, you're usually a bad assassin and the, you know, vice versa.

It's rare for those things to overlap. It's rare for them to be in the same sentence. Except for... Father Guido Sarducci, who's a comedy assassin. Yeah. Now, who is that, Reverend Horton Heat? You're going Reverend Horton Heat. All right, all right, okay. They killed a lot of shows.

I'll take that one, I'll take that one. So Alex is really all over the place on this narrative. The roommate's probably an actor. This guy is a classic Patsy. Tim Walz in China are behind the assassinations to punish disloyal Democrats. This is a mess. Yeah. It doesn't need to be, but it is a fucking mess.

I have a question for you. Yeah. All right. And I was thinking about this. I would argue, despite what movies may say about extreme outlier cases, I would argue that the qualities that make you a good coach of a sport preclude you from being a danger to the world order. I was reading, I've read Bill Russell's autobiography about his relationship with Red Auerbach great Red Auerbach not a threat to the global

order interesting all of the qualities that he possessed that made him great also kept him from being a threat to the global order Phil Jackson read his book similar things I don't think you can be a good coach and be a threat to the world order. And from what I heard and read, Coach Wells was all right. Sure. He was pretty good.

Now you know what I think. What's that? This makes me think. Okay. Because I recently watched a biography about Uncle Luke, Luke Skywalker from Two Live Crew. Okay. And you know what he does now?

What? He's a football coach. He's a football coach? Yeah. is he a threat to the global order? I think he was a threat to people who didn't want freedom of speech sure sure but that was pre coach Yeah, yeah, I guess so now that he's a good coach precludes him from being a threat to those people fair enough Yeah, so Alex talks a bit about the the Minnesota shooter, this Bolter guy, it's MKUltra stuff. And I know about MKUltra stuff because my dad was in the program. I'm sorry?

Wait, what? We're just hearing this now. I don't know about MKUltra. I think of it as just the mind control component. MKUltra was just a larger group name, MK Naomi, for test scores in schools and changing the educational system and medical testing and medical experimentation, both lethal and non-lethal. It's just a giant ongoing project of testing the mind. So when I say this is an MKUltra project, that person worked under MKUltra, that's just

an umbrella name for that whole genre. But MKUltra in general is thought of as only classic mind control. That was just one part of the one project that got a lot of attention in Congress when it came out in the late 70s in the Frank Church committee hearings and other areas. So when I sat on a podcast and one of the lab experts asked about it, I said, you know, my dad was recruited into MKUltra and went on in a larger project. That was just medical experimentation when he wasn't being experimented on. He was 14, 15, 16, you know, working as an assistant, as an intern. He was experimenting on people?

Oh, you've won the WizKid thing. You know, you get the feeder for NASA, but first you've got to go... Experiment on people. ...work at this cancer research facility with terminal patients. Your dad experimented on people. So again, if I had to call it that's what it was I got the mangal so that's what runs all that stuff the DARPA created the internet sounds right should understand it's it's it's it's it's larger systems but but this would be classic mind control or they just drugged him up.

Oh, that's also possible. Plan it. He's on that. But the whole thing unraveled. But the telltale sign is the day it happened. They tried to connect it to me within hours and the way the roommate does it is just just you look at the body language is just screams scripted bullshit. Okay. So the news that Alex is, he's kind of dancing around and he does bring up, but not in these clips is that Vance Bolter left behind a letter that was meant to be sent to Cosh Patel at the FBI in which he claimed that he'd carried out the assassinations on behalf of Tim Waltz,

who wanted him to kill Amy Klobuchar so Walz could take her Senate seat. Right, that makes sense. This letter was later released in a search warrant that was filed to get access to blink security camera data, and it doesn't necessarily come off as entirely credible. He claims to have been secretly trained by the military since he was in college, and that he was involved in a bunch of secret unspecified projects, which is pretty standard stuff for these types of folks.

Unverifiable and falsifiable. Yeah, they build up a self-mythology that follows archetypal beats, but it doesn't include anything specific. The idea is supposed to be that this stuff that they were involved in is so secret and they're such good soldiers that they would never reveal these secrets, but that premise is shaky. Why maintain that kind of secrecy when you're writing a letter to the head of the FBI where you admit to murders and an elaborate plot involving the governor?

I think that some of the coverage of this letter has been a little bit off because the impression that you might get is that Tim Walz enlisted Bolter to kill a bunch of Democratic politicians, including Amy Klobuchar, and that the two assassinations that he attempted to carry out were the beginning of that plan. I think that's the impression that a lot of people get. Right. That they're trying to... Yeah, okay.

The assassinations were part of the plot that Walls put in place through Bolter. However, it seems from this letter that killing Melissa Hortman and trying to kill John Hoffman, those were bolter going rogue. From his letter, quote, recently I was approached about a project that Tim Walz wanted done and blank and Keith also left blank, but it's clearly Keith Ellison. They were aware of the project. Tim wanted me to kill Amy Klobuchar, it's misspelled, and Tina blank, but it's obviously Smith the other Minnesota senator.

Tim wants to be senator and he doesn't trust blank to retire as planned and thinks she's going to stay on at the last minute. Bolter is telling the story that Walls wanted him to kill these two senators so that he could take one of their seats. Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman aren't targets from walls at all in his telling of the story through this letter. His letter goes on, quote, I told Tim I wanted nothing to do with it and if he didn't call off the plan I would go to the public. He said he would call it hurt my family if I did play ball. Then he set

up a meeting with me and Mel and Blank to talk about options when they had some people waiting to kill me. I was able to get away by God's mercy. So I went back a short time later and shot at both Blank and Blank. It's not a situation where I feel comfortable filling in all the blanks that Bolter left in his note, but I am confident that Mel refers to Melissa Hortman and that the story he's trying to tell is that Hortman and Walls and a third unnamed person confronted Bolter with this plan saying that he needed to follow through with it or else they would

hurt his family. Bolter didn't want to go along with it, so he returned and shot at two unnamed people. That leads me to suspect the unnamed people are Hortman and John Hoffman, which implies that Hoffman is supposed to be the third person who was at this meeting that Bolter claimed he had with Walls where they were threatening him. If you follow the train of thinking in this letter that he left, he didn't kill Hortman and try to kill Hoffman because Walls wanted him to. He was a desperate man who was being threatened by walls and the entire power structure of

the Minnesota government and he was living out the plot of an action movie. This distinction doesn't really matter in the real world because Bolter isn't telling a true story here, but the stuff that we look at is all about narrative and what story is being told is critically important to understanding how these stories are being used. I think that a lot of the coverage around this letter has been a little bit off, telling the story that Bolter claimed he did the shootings for Walls. His claim is actually the opposite, that Walls wanted him to kill the senators and was threatening his family, and Bolter decided to go John Wick on the state government in order to try to fight back.

I haven't talked to the guy and I have no idea what his mental state is really like, but I don't think that the guy and I have no idea what his mental state is really like, but I don't think that this letter is very confusing. He's done something very serious and it didn't go according to plan. He knows that there's a very good chance that he's going to die after doing the shootings before getting arrested. There's a really good chance. So leaving this letter behind puts a permanent imprint on the story.

It'll always allow conspiracy theories to flourish around the story, and will give Republicans ammo to attack Tim Walz and other Democrats, like they could have hearings forever. If he'd died, then the existence of this letter would be the only thing to go on, but since he survived, he can go to trial, and he's going to have to try to prove some of these claims, which all veteran conspiracy theorists know isn't going to work. But at the time when he would have written this letter and left it, he'd have every reason to think, I'm probably gonna die. This letter will be a piece of evidence that will be able to be exploited in perpetuity.

I mean, it was written after the assassinations, we're sure? Yes, because he confesses to them and talks about them specifically. Right, right, right. Well, I mean, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything in a fake story. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's strong reason to believe it was written after. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Just a question.

Beyond all of that, I don't think Alex knows all that much about MKUltra, but it's fun to know that his dad was also recruited into that. Like, his family has such a deep history with all of this I don't think Alex knows all that much about MK ultra but it's fun to know that his dad was also recruited into that like his family has such a deep history with all of this shady shit that's not real my favorite thing history is not real MK ultra was real my favorite thing about MK ultra the more I read about it is how well they've done in making it sound like a super secret brainwashing program. Instead of a bunch of guys were on a lot of drugs and had no oversight whatsoever. Like these guys were- And did awful shit to people.

Yeah, they were sneaking stuff into each other's drinks. There was no accountability for anything. These guys were going out for fucking weeks at a time on LSD and doing experiments at the same time. People are talking about it like, oh, these guys are evil. These people are insane. And no one did shit about it.

But the effect of it is quite evil. And you can understand why people would have some of that take on it. Now, I think what you're describing is why Alex talks the way he does about MKUltra, because when you take it from the specifics of what actually happened, what this was, when you talk about it in that sense, it's not as exploitable. You can't use it to explain this Minnesota shooter.

No, you can use it to hire an HR person. Yeah, but as you generalize and you turn it into, oh no, it's really just about test scores. Sure. It's everything Then you can you can just apply the name MK ultra to whatever you want and take the feelings about the real thing and Apply them to the false thing. Hmm. That's part of his big strategy horrifying. Yeah Yeah, so he decides that he's going to keep on digging Calling the shooters roommate an actor. Why not? I feel like he just doesn't Feel like there's any possible. Yeah, come get me and now Minnesota shooting suspect Vance Bolter Claims an FBI letter. He was secretly trained by the military

Alleged as governor Tim Walz ordered Senator Amy Klobuchar's assassination so that he could take her Senate seat. Well, I said last week, is this guy an assassin to get Democrats that were starting to vote against him in the state back in line and a false flag to blame Trump and his supporters. And then lo and behold, that day, oh, the guy did it for Trump and he really loved Infowars. And that CBS stage question. Now the body language for me was total and complete, scripting and disingenuous. That's my opinion, but I'm not trained in that. But a whole bunch of trained Secret Service, the roommate of Vance Balter, and said exactly what I said. And here's one of them right here, Scott Roos.

We're going to be getting to that coming up. That weird sound effect is what plays at the beginning of Scott Roos' video. Gotcha. He's a YouTube guy who does like body language stuff Okay So Alex is doing just exactly the same thing that he did around Sandy Hook like he just takes things that someone said Like I've got a random guy on YouTube and now I'm gonna say that tons of CIA Top-level experts are all saying this guy looks like an actor. This is what he did with

like Steve p Pacenek and Fetzer. You take these little things and then pretend this is representative of a giant sample of experts. Yeah, yeah. Can I ask a question? Sure. The more I think about it, the more I think this is poor reasoning on Walls' part. Okay? So if the plan is to assassinate this guy to get other Democrats back in line, right? That doesn't work because if you... Okay,

so I go, no, I'm not going to get back in line and then he kills me. Now you've got two assassinated politicians and then if the next person goes like, oh, I'm not going to go on. Now you've got three, that's's a pattern you're going to be in more danger than the people who are ostensibly going to want to fall back in line yeah this doesn't this isn't something you really can pull multiple times a bad plan yeah I mean a lot of the theories that Alex imagines are pretty bad yeah this is I wouldn't do it no I wouldn't I wouldn't and I also wouldn't Enlist this guy to kill Amy Klobuchar. Absolutely. That's a bad plan to these are these are very poor plans

Yes, I wouldn't I would suggest that maybe that is our best evidence that they didn't happen I don't think it's the best evidence, but it's fine evidence. There's other evidence. They're much better. Yeah, you can have it. So We now go to the 22nd Sunday. It's because most of the rest of this show on Saturday is Alex whining about Heather suing his dad. Yeah, that sounds about right. He seems very upset about this. I bet he is. Yeah, probably because he gave a bunch of money and cars and property to him. I mean, it's your fault, but I'm sure you are upset about it. I agree with both of those statements.

Yeah. So now Trump has attacked and Alex called it. I'm sorry? I'm going to show you how my head is 100% in the game before I go into what's happening now and what's coming next, the different scenarios. All week long, starting last weekend, I specifically said I believe they would strike by Saturday. That was the date as I saw everything lining up. Only person to say that anywhere. I was massively attacked by all sides, the left, the control right. No, no, no.

Trump's just getting a peace deal. It's not going to happen. But I said on Thursday specifically exactly what happened. So this is kind of true, but also not accurate at all. For the past week or so on the show, Alex was saying that Trump was going to attack Iran on Thursday night or Friday morning. It was a prediction that was meant to be understood as somewhat flexible in the timeline, but it was also definitely happening.

Alex spent his time lobbying against the attack and pretending to brief Trump on Bannon's podcast and when Trump's press secretary announced that Trump was giving Iran two weeks to negotiate on Thursday, Alex took that as a victory. The war fever had broken. It didn't mean an attack wouldn't ever happen, but the immediacy of the crisis had decreased thanks to the Patriots. In essence, what Alex is saying about his prediction here has some truth baked inside it, but that stuff can only be seen as true if you take away all of the context.

Alex did say that Trump was going to attack Iran, but now Alex is lying about what day he said it was going to happen on, and he's pretending that they didn't do the whole war fever has broken victory lap. If you're listening to Alex's show for news and analysis, it would be a huge surprise to wake up on Sunday and learn that Trump had bombed Iran. Alex and his friends were supposed to have handled this situation, so Alex saying I called it is a little unfair. This is gaslighting the audience.

Yeah, I was just thinking like, a lot of gaslighting is insidious and it's very difficult to kind of keep straight. I feel like if a person is like, hey, those last two days didn't even happen. They just didn't. That should be a, if you're in a relationship and somebody says the last two days did not happen, it's time to go. This should be really, really, really suspicious to anyone who's paying attention to his show this kind of behavior is Opportunistic it's manipulative

But also par for the course. It's exactly what it shows what you're looking for if you're there so Look, I mean some people want to believe that this is just a you know a little cool bombing Is it it's a little it's a little how's your mother? Well, I think that there's some conspiracy folks on the right who are putting forth the idea that Trump did this in order To placate Israel right like Israel is saying they just don't want Iran to have nukes, right? And so Trump carries out this attack in order to be like there now they don't have nukes. Are you happy now? Right, right. So that is something that that a lot of people are saying that's not terrible i mean that's that's essentially the moab kind of thing all over again so sure that makes enough money yeah back and forth yep makes enough sense as it is um and so alex doesn't think this oh now there's

a whole nother story here. I've seen a lot of people saying that actually has some validity. Doesn't mean it's what's happening. Because of the ongoing massive buildup of planes, missiles

and aircraft carriers. I do not believe that is. What's happened here. Because this is different than. Five years ago. And I I even said at the time, even though it's a rainy and shot a bunch of missiles and retaliation of Soleimani, their top general being killed. The head of the Revolutionary Guard.

Hasbulla. That when Soleimani was killed, they didn't want a full war with Trump. So they called Trump and said, we're going to shoot missiles, but they're not going to hit your base. And they didn't hit the base. Didn't kill anybody. Hit about a mile away in the desert. And Trump later talked about that. Some have said, that's what this is. And that this is now, you know, like the U.S. has come in and we took out your nuclear program.

And so now we can tell Israel, stop it. Well, the Iranians were reached out to. Turns out by Trump, he'd mentioned this, but said, Oh, we're talking behind the scenes. He wanted to meet with them on Thursday when he gave it two weeks and they told you they told us go to hell. Which

is what I see in all the signs. They've never hoisted the red flag before. They've never done that before. They know the world's lining up flag before. They've never done that before. They know the world's lining up behind them. They're dug in. And all the evidence points towards full war with Iran and its allies has now begun.

So that's where we're at. This is not just a little bit of a performance of war. This is like, this is it. This is the shit. It makes sense. After a certain point, in Avengers, you've got the aliens coming and you've got the whole earth. That's your Moab. You've got to escalate. Then you go to the Civil War, you've got your Avengers and then Ultron you know you do you escalate that so now We got America in a Civil War where else do you go you got to end the whole world you got in the universe you got

To get your endgame and the multi you got in the yeah, you got to have a half of everybody die right I do I feel like there is escalation yeah obviously But then Alex is in a place where he's like I can't pretend This is not like nothing anymore. Yeah, like my guy is just fucking like he's messing it up My messianic leader is not doing What I want him to do. He's been giving lip service to what I want Yeah, he pretended like Bannon had convinced him not to attack and I fell for it. I went along with it, but I can't do this.

It's a real, it's a rich struggle. It can never be missed, but sometimes when you just stop and you go like, these idiots are firing millions of dollars at nothing to show off how strong they are to other idiots When they could just be feeding their own fucking people, you know true like What are we fucking do you guys these people are all so stupid and we let them rule the world, which is great So that's fine. It is gonna be fine. It's inefficient. No, it's gonna be fine. It's gonna be great So, um with this war it's gonna come sleeper cells Well, that makes sense. Yeah, so right the three sleeper cells or post sleeper cells. What does that mean?

I mean, do we already have sleeper cells that are being activated or are there new sleeper cells coming in probably? Pre okay, and one of them might have just popped off Oh shit The fuse is lit on the blocking of the Strait of Hormuz. Iran's parliament has voted to block it. Only the supreme leader can override that now. They will be able to block it very easily. All the studies are out there.

20% of world oil production and delivery goes through that every day at least. Russia, North Korea, and others are signaling that they're going to give nuclear weapons to Iran. So that's really assured destruction. That doesn't make any sense is on the table and in hopes of this war stopping. But the United States has been throwing the mad doctrine to the side. DHS is officially warning and saying brace for Iranian terror attack sleeper cells, including the bullets of people, but a brave deacon jumped on him like a marine jumping on a hand grenade and then a security guard killed him.

That just happened in the last three hours. That morning, a man named Brian Anthony Browning, he had arrived at Cross Point Community Church in Wayne, Michigan and opened fire. He was run over by a member of the church and then died exchanging fire with security guards. Alex has almost all of the basic details incorrect about this story because he doesn't really care about what happened. It's a horrible tragedy and in the aftermath of the shooting, it's come out that the shooter

seemed to harbor some resentment towards this specific church. He posted a photo of a friend of his who died recently that said, quote, You have not only lied to men, but have lied upon the spirit of the Lord. His blood is on your hands, Crosspoint Community Church. I have no idea what exactly is going on with this case, but it seems to me like yet another instance of someone who was unwell, who had access to weapons, who decided to act out violently on whatever unaddressed feelings or thoughts he was having. Alex is a desperate liar who loves to manipulate the audience by exploiting tragedy, so for him he sees a story like this and thinks, I can work with that.

He doesn't see a tragedy where people are left hurt, he just sees an opportunity because he's a piece of shit. Maybe I can pretend that this was an Iranian sleeper cell. This works? I mean, man. was a Iranian sleeper cell this works I mean man like a few bucks off that man what a piece of shit totally I we should be like this feels a little bit like I want to be in a mall at a Like a food court just watching this piece of shit because then it's like low stakes You know when you're in know when you're at the mall and you see somebody just clearly being a piece of shit

to like a retail worker for no, what are you doing? It's a Burberry or whatever the fuck it is, you know? You're getting sunglasses. That's fine. That's a nice little people watch, you know, that's a nice little look at that piece of shit. At least we're not that guy. This sucks.

I think also like when you're watching someone be a real asshole piece of shit to other people public you're like Well, he's gonna do that to the wrong person one day and get his ass kicked Yeah, and I think there's a small comfort in like I don't treat people like that. I feel good Yeah, I I think that there's gonna be some comeuppance that's coming and with Alex. It doesn't seem like anyone There's there's going to be some comeuppance that's coming. And with Alex, it doesn't seem like anyone, there's not that wrong employee that he's mistreating. No, in a weird way, that initial thing that he's saying about how he's indebted to Trump and if Trump doesn't win, he'll go to jail. That's not literally true for him and Trump, the relationship of like if the powers that

be are not in some way or form protecting me I am well aware that justice will come for me you know well yeah and I think that he has an awareness that if God forbid all of these troubles that he has brought upon himself if the consequences come to bear Trump's gonna let him slide right like in whatever way He has that kind of get out of jail right idea even if it's not literally get out of jail How could you not your your buddy got pardoned for stealing an election? Yeah, and all of your buddies got pardoned for storming the capital Why would you ever expect to receive actual consequences that you should be like physically scared of?

Yeah, the only thing that's required in order to maintain access to those things seems to be loyalty. Perfect fealty to dear leader. Yeah, and so that seems to be the priority. Anyway, the last few days didn't happen. They didn't? Nope. Well, that's actually comforting because the last few days didn't happen they didn't know well that's actually comforting because the last few days were pretty scary Alex is just trying to pretend that like I didn't I didn't say the fever broken Wow and just give a little example that my heads in the game so people listen that's the opposite of what it is regular There are regular listeners that know that, but everybody else, we've just posted it at X.

How did Alex Jones, your truly, predict last Saturday, last Sunday, last Monday, last Tuesday, last Wednesday, last Thursday, that I believe the strike was coming and that it would be probably by Saturday. But I said the windows Thursday evening through Sunday evening, if it was going to be done, I have a lot of intel, a lot of information, a lot of moving parts, but I myself came up with that equation."

There's no way that Alex doesn't know that what he's doing is manipulation. It's fine for him to say that he predicted Trump would attack Iran Thursday or Friday, but he has to know that he's extending this window of the prediction after the fact, and that he spent Friday and Saturday Trying to convince the audience that Trump was great and had listened to his calmer headed advisors If Alex wants to take some credit for this prediction then he needs to also admit that he was tricked by Trump and his press Secretary to the point where he gave up on the prediction that he had previously made Yeah, you can't have one without the other.

Yeah. This is negating the part where you were way wrong in order to preserve the part where you looked right. Yeah. You know, I think, all right, here's where I'm interested to see where things go. Because from what I can see, based upon the messaging from our current administration, nobody knows what the fuck's going on. No!

Or what they're supposed to be saying. Yeah. Like I said, when Trump and Tulsi disagree, there's no message discipline. It's chaos. Right. Right, right, right. Now, that's fine for these people. They don't give a shit.

Reality is fungible at best, right? But the question is, how many times can you roll back and forth on the same fence? Do you know what I mean? Like, oh, we didn't go to war. War is evil. War is terrible. And we went to war.

We love war. War is great. Wait, now we don't love war again? How many times before you go, fuck it, I'm done? Right? Like, that's the question. I think the number's higher than it used to be. I think we're looking at at least five. I think people are going to, within a span of weeks, change their minds on one thing

at least five times, and that will be too many. It may. It may happen. So Alex plays a clip of himself making this prediction from his show on Thursday. Right. What shows did he not take clips from? The ones after the change. Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

Makes sense, makes sense. And then there's so much information, you call it a hunch, it's not really it's the subconscious, we're more powerful than the conscious. And then I did a prime political computation and said, I believe it would be Saturday evening, US time.

The crew couldn't find that clip, they did a great job though, they found a clip that's almost as powerful where I do nail it and say Saturday evening Before I give you the next predictions and before I give you the next scenarios that we're now already deeply Into here tonight. So here I am in the first hour of Thursday syndicated radio slash TV transmission from this chair. I'm sitting in right now.

Here it is. What did I tell you? Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I said starting Thursday night through the weekend is when I see Trump deciding to not strike or deciding to strike. Because I understand military doctrine, which is not a prediction at all pieces of Intel. People ask, how did I make that announcement over the weekend? I had Steve Bannon asked, how do I know? And I just said, I can see all the

pieces. And I am sure that by Sunday at the latest, unless Iran publicly says, okay, we'll give up the program unconditionally and publicly roll over, that could extend it out because then if they say they'll do a deal, but pull back, kind of like Zelensky did on the minerals over and over again, they could probably rope Trump along a little bit longer. But I don't think at this point, if they're going to capitulate, it's going to be fake. And I would tell the Iranians, even

if you try to capitulate now, I think Israel's going to launch a false flag. We know the Russians just caught the Ukrainians with a plan to torpedo one of their ships and blame Russia, torpedo one of our ships. So it was about a 99% chance two days ago that by the weekend the US joins the war officially. I'd say it's about a 95% chance right now, but I, gut level, I believe by Saturday, we'll be doing an emergency all day broadcast covering it. So there you have it.

And boy did I get attacked for being right. So that's a great clip for Alex to play. And I think it's a lot of fun where he decides to cut it off. Right after he said that there was a 95% chance that they'd be doing an all-day show on Saturday, he said this. It was about a 99% chance two days ago that by the weekend the US joins the war officially. I'd say it's about a 95% chance right now, but I

Gut level I believe by Saturday will be doing an emergency all-day broadcast covering it Now things could change It's like you're in a bus driving towards a cliff the Grand Canyon and you're 200 yards away 100 yards away 50 yards away And you're going 60 miles an hour There's not much time to slam the brakes on before we go off the edge of it. This was a conditional prediction. What would happen if the brakes weren't slammed on on his Friday show and on Saturday, Alex was invested in telling the story that they'd successfully slammed on the brakes. Trump had listened to Alex's briefing from Bannon's podcast. The world was saved. This. This is the important dynamic that he's trying to rip out of this false prediction that he made.

This clip from Thursday is great as a parlor trick and it might impress idiots on Twitter, but anyone who's paying attention and watching his show would have to know that this whole thing is a lie. And the only way that Alex could try to sell it to the audience is if he's a liar. Yeah. So that's just a shame.

This is like the pre-taped eulogies. I don't know if you've ever... In case this guy dies, we've already got the eulogy cover for a news organization. They've already got the template out. Yeah, of course you've predicted it if you filmed 15 different versions of the exact same thing for the precise moment that one of them might happen. Yeah, a lot of the content of Alex's show functions that way.

I think he calls it war gaming, but what he's doing is making a million predictions and then he's gonna selectively cherry pick out the ones that look the best in hindsight in order to pretend He's a prophet to make what bullshit. He's saying in the present day seem like oh he got it right last time We should listen to him this time. Yeah, it's a fucking dumb game. Yep He's an idiot and a fucking monstrous asshole who exploits everyone's pain yep anyway

I think also he really wants There to be like some 4d chess going on here Yeah, he wants this to be Trump doing this to placate Israel in order to create more peace Yeah, he really really wants that. Yeah. I mean we listen we all wish that forward thinking and strategizing were available to us Unfortunately, yeah does not appear to be the case. I don't think that he can do it. I think that he just can't. He's like, no, this is actually war. So I see all the videos of the bombers bombing and people playing rock and roll and celebrating and bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran, taking the John McCain statements and putting it into

music. And rule America's back, bitches, and all this crap this crap know you're having your future Destroyed right in front of you and everything we voted for Trump being derailed That's why Steve Bannon said the same things to him because he's smart and he's a patriot and you know who he is Drug addict instead of all this delusion 5 g five d chest up here's trump though four years ago few months out of office going back and explaining he had this secret deal for them to stage this attack to save face and I said at the time that's what that was all their missiles don't hit a few miles away in a desert from our base no it was you can see it then they stopped right

there the Trump stopped and then later he it what it was. I know how this works Everything I see now is not that all the signs say total war I don't just say things to be insinuary or alarmist. I say it because it's what I see That's why I have the number one accuracy trade track record. Yeah number one accuracy trade accuracy trade track record. Yeah. Number one accuracy trade. Number one track received. Treg network. Yep.

Yep. So accurate. So accurate. I think that you just have a sense of Alex desperately wanting it to be a pissing contest, but he can't allow himself to like, it's not what he feels. He feels like this is actually war. Trump did the thing that I said that he can't allow himself to like it's not what he feels. He feels like this is actually war Trump did the thing that I said that he can't do yeah Yeah, and we've already done the pissing contest. Mm-hmm. You know years ago exactly How are we still pissing if the content the contest is still just still going on? Mm-hmm

Like that's that's too much. Well hydrated. We've moved on now. It's shits getting real time Yeah Much well hydrated we've moved on now. It's shit's getting real time Yeah, and I think because shit's getting real Alex now feels like I've got to argue with someone Right think people on the left would tell you I told you so other people on the right real dicks a lot of them Maybe are you know they have positions that I don't really want to engage with Absolutely not so he decides he's gonna get mad at a random QAnon guy on Twitter. Now is the time. Here's one of the Q people about the mastery. This is going to totally expose Israel.

Bring down Netanyahu, 5D chess, 1000D chess, and just dreamy-eyed that, oh my gosh, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this isn't stopping the war. This is accelerating the war watch And I wish that wasn't the case And Trump was convinced this probably would do that and maybe it is we're gonna find out But but this is kind of a sampling of the people thinking oh no

This is a you know masterstroke to go ahead and take out their nuclear program and then say see now stroke to go ahead and take out their nuclear program and then say see now Israel can stop the problem is I told you they would announce the Iranians have taken their enrichment out they know officially you're going for a bomb they've announced they're pulling out of the officially you think they already have it's got to just saying they're gonna give them nukes they're gonna block the shred of horboos we're mashing all these aircraft carriers and thousands of planes everywhere that ain't being done for no reason, sweethearts. But let's just hope that the pie in the sky is true.

Here it is. Looks like the U S military just went in and, uh, bombed Iran. They went in and bombed three nuclear sites. They got in and got out, you know, the stealth bombers. I don't know how they detected the stealth bombers anyways, but, um, the news is talking about it. So Trump said, uh, the planes are out and they're on their way back home. And, uh, he's ready for peace now.

So what just happened to my firm opinion is, uh, we know the left cabal deep state of Israel is on a mission and Trump took out their mission. Their mission was to make sure that there was no nukes. And yeah, I ran. Well, Trump said, okay, I'll move in and take out the nuclear sites. And now what? I think it's a bait

because Israel's not gonna stop attacking them. And Trump's gonna say, why are you still attacking them? I just took out the nuclear sites. What are you doing? And that's gonna open up the floodgates on who Israel really is. Mark my words, in the coming days, watch the peacemaker just drew them in. What a chess move. What a chess move. Yeah, that's why Netanyahu begged them to do it. And they're worshipping Trump right now, Israel is. And now everything is degenerating into total war. And they've got giant billboards up everywhere in Tel Aviv saying thank you mr. president yeah man he really got the

Israelis quote taking out their nuclear sites man he really did the opposite of what they wanted but this is what happens when people start getting into geopolitics and things and then have a comic book you know Avenger movie fucker mindset okay I said this all last. I said it on Steve Mann and Friday. Have you missed it? That's on X right now. Reloads Jones overhead shot please. Hegseth we devastated the Iranian nuclear program. Zoom in please. That's today. Iranian sources say enriched uranium moved from Fordo before us air strikes and released the

video of it all happening. Iran valves enrich uranium after US strikes Iran media uranium moved from Ford out pre-strike how Israel's campaign to wipe out Iran's nuclear program unfolded how far will US strike sent back Iran's nuclear program on now they're telling us oh it really didn't do that. Ah, but I mean, he just took out their program. Yeah. Yeah, it's all over. The war is over. Everything's fine. Remember, Joe Biden was going to be executed on January 20th, 2020 at the inauguration. Q said so. And monkeys might fly to my ass and unicorns. We'll be right back. I think that Alex is in a really bad place Because he feels the need to argue with someone who's more disconnected from reality than him Yeah, like he's kind of using this guy as a punching bag in order to like hey, I'm not that

Yeah, it's it is about as bad as like oh Hey, I'm an eighth level demon. I'm not a ninth level demon. Come on Yeah, I do it one of those assholes And I think this is something that happens sometimes for fun like him having Eddie Bravo on to talk about flatterer sure But this is this isn't fun. This is him trying to just be like all right Let's be serious. Yep, you know you know, you kids with your new to geopolitics, you got this Avengers worldview, no, no, no. Stop it with the Avengers.

Childhood's end is real. Yep. That's, it's not a comic book, it's a book. No, I mean, it is like early on doing standup, you know? Like you have a stretch where your confidence is getting hit pretty hard because you're not that good. And you're not. You're just not that good. And that's fine. That's how it works, right? But there are rooms where not that good can be real good. So you'd go

to one of those rooms, you'd get your confidence back up, but that's not a long-term strategy towards improving. Finding the easiest thing to do and then doing that is not the same thing as improving. It's not a good strategy. And also what this feels like is somebody who has come up through open mics and maybe gotten better. Maybe they're headlining or featuring and then they're mean to open micers or something. They forget entire like how you got to where you are. You were here. You were the same asshole that you're mad at.

And let's be honest, this is not that different than what Alex does. He sits in his car and says dumb shit. No, you are, you are the same asshole that you're mad at. Yeah. You guys intellectually are both open micers, right? Alex is just a headliner at selling pills, right? That's it. The relative quality is arbitrary and inside both of your own minds because you're identical Yeah, yeah, the difference is mostly money. Yep. Yep So Alex wants this to not be Trump's fault and that's the sense that you get from

This episode see this is the problem with wanting a president who is also the king by definition Everything is their fault either by doing it or by not stopping it from being done. It is also the problem with Associating the person in power with being your literal lifeboat. There's an issue. Yeah. It's going to take a lot for you to turn on that lifeboat. It's going to be hard. And so Alex wants to maintain like some connection to Trump.

He's like, he's not bad. It's not him. It's all these other guys. Iran says US has blown diplomacy through its lawless jungle behavior. That's fair. Iran, you started it, we will end it. Iran media warns Trump after strikes nuclear sites, airs maps of US bases. That's probably unfair. All I see from them is they're getting ready for action. Is it all a big bluff? Let's hope so. But then they're

going to demand a total surrender of Iran so they can. And more aircraft carriers and more aircraft are massing. Wipes of which we've not seen since 2003. So that indicates war escalation escalatory conflict that's what all the real signals show

Not delusional Pie in the sky. Oh Marco Rubio. Oh, yeah, we want peace. Oh, yeah, we're ready right now They're telling Trump that and Trump probably believes that but is Trump super sophisticated enough about real geopolitical strategy and military Or maybe he's in on it. Maybe he wants total war. I don't know. I don't know. Making some good excuses though. Like he's just not sophisticated enough to see through the lies of Marco Rubio, the guy he made Secretary of State. Both of you have been chosen by your deity. We lose sight of that sometimes.

Both of them not one Not the other and Alex too and Alex is being chosen by the deity has a lot to do with getting Trump into power Absolutely, so like all of this is a divine mission that seems to have gone very very divine Yeah, yeah, so I mean ultimately you should be mad at your own God Yeah, either you all fucked up. Yeah, or God meant for all of this to happen Yeah, in which case you're probably being fucked with because again, you have a very weird God Yeah, and you need to deal with that might be the devil you need to deal with that somehow some way Yeah, yeah, so Alex takes some calls for most the rest of the show. That's smart Yeah, and I think that he can't quite land on a position of like

How to play this ball? Yeah, because this is a egregious error that Trump has made. Yeah It is against the peaceful Not really peaceful whatever we like whatever the vibe is of the America first crowd peaceful whatever we like whatever the vibe is of the America first crowd imperialist isolationism somehow yes yeah and then they would not have a huge problem with him bombing somewhere right but Iran is a huge country they have power in a lot of spheres they're also aligned closely with Russia sure and there's a lot of fucking Russia love there is in the America first movement yeah that's true so a lot of this is like the wrong choice of a country to bomb.

What a sentence! There's a lot of Russia love in the America First movement! Right. I mean... I mean, no, it's perfect and apt and descriptive in ways that you can't even use words for. Yeah, like if Trump had bombed, I don't know, Chile, I don't think people would care nearly as much. They wouldn't know where it was.

Right. But because of the dynamics of Iran, it becomes really problematic for Trump's base. Yeah. But Alex still sees him as that life raft and doesn't want to give up. This is not enough for Alex to be like, fuck this. He's not drunk. So he's not lashing out in the same way that he did during the first administration. But you can tell like, he's like, I can only put up with so much. I have to these he's bending

but not breaking just yet. Yeah, you know, I mean, it's so hard. Like for for, I think for most rational people, the calculus is simply like some sort of cost benefit. It's going to cost me to try and stick through Trump with, And you would think that the bombing of Iran would be enough, but it's clearly not. But is the benefit ultimately, is he right? Is the benefit like life or death? In which case, what cost isn't he really willing to pay if there's only one price?

You know or if there's only one Possible fail, you know, I think a highly motivated Department of Justice could incarcerate him I think he's committed some crimes that would be sure. I think that Alex should have every reason to think that that would be... Sure. I think that Alex should have every reason to think that, not that if Trump goes out of power, he'll go to jail, but the odds are higher. Well, yeah.

But not life or death. Out of power, out of money, these are the things that will definitely take him down far more than any kind of legal system. Yeah. So the point that I think Alex is at is one where he's like, fuck, that calculus, that equation, whatever it is, is changing. And it's much more real, the idea that maybe it's not worth it to support Trump.

But it's not enough. The scale is still me. So I don't want to listen to much of the calls, but I do want to say that Alex is a big boy show. He is a big boy. This is where the intellectuals come to play. This is where like heads of state listen to this fucking show. Wonks of all policy. Yeah. Policies wonk.

Yeah. And like the real movers and the shakers, Rockefellers they try to hire Alex cuz you know they know That like policymakers people who are ahead of their time Putin. Yeah, Putin listens. Yep So here's one one caller. Okay They ain't scared of us one bit. I don't think so. I think they want to call our bluff and We've handed China. We've handed America to China. I work in the oil and gas industry. And I mean, we're working for Tokyo people, which not saying they're bad, but I mean,

we're an American school. And here we are as Americans working for people from Tokyo. Mitsubishi just announced that they're buying an oil and gas company that operates in this area. I'm out of Kilgore, Texas, by Longview, Tyler, North or whatever outside of about an hour and a half, two hours from Dallas. And I mean, it's just scary to sit there and know that we're selling our land to them. I mean, what have they done? They've got their people here, they're in place. They've always said

they'll take over us and never fire us. Absolutely. When? When did always said they'll take over us and never fire Absolutely, when? When did they say they'll take over us? Well, I think we first have to figure out who he's talking about Do you mean the Chinese or the Japanese same to him? It feels like he does not care if there's a difference It's big boy pants time the show for racists who think that Tokyo people are show for racists who think that Tokyo people are Chinese. I mean, yikes. Wow. Why would you think that they'd have any other? It would be a very interesting lens through which

to explain to this man that nations don't really exist at the higher echelons of money. And so what he's describing as like Mitsubishi buying something is not Japan buying anything, but a bunch of weird psychos now. So that's better. Um, right. But it would be also interesting to try to explain to him the Chinese and Japanese people are don't come from the same country.

I don't think we're able to get there. I think that'll take too long. I think the abstract shit that you're talking about would be more difficult. I don't know. I think that he just Like Asian people I think you might be right Anyway, I thought for sure that you know as the things were unfolding when I heard that Iran Got bombed dropped a bomb drawn. I thought that Alex would have a stronger Trumpet bomb drawn. Yeah, I thought that Alex would have a stronger

Devastated reaction right right right and to me it was pretty surprising that he's Just kind of lying to himself. Yeah a ting a I called this And trying to slow play it a little bit some of that maybe because it's on Sunday So it's on less stations stakes are a little bit lower lower, maybe. But I thought he'd be freaking out, and he's not. I mean, you know, in a way, I think a lot of people would have described the way he treated alcohol as someone trying to wall off large parts of reality, right? And now he's not medicating with alcohol in that same way. So instead he's apparently psychologically walling off

entire days of time, which I think is probably healthier. We all cope, you know? I guess that's how we should put it. We all cope. We all cope. Some of us just decide days don't happen. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, who knows? Based on the way he would drink that apple juice. Maybe days didn't exist Maybe they didn't that's why you do it Boy anyway, we'll see how this unraveling continues But I really do think that we're in a chunk of time now that is The path of disillusionment. Sure. The path of the messiah being shown to be a false idol. Right, right, right. Essentially.

Right. And to me I think that that's fascinating. You believe we are currently living in what will eventually be the thing where we go, ah, that's where it really began. Well, I think it's incre- here's what I'm saying. Okay. Yes. Yes. Possibly.

Poss- but- Fair enough. We've done this show for long enough and seen so many things that felt like they were going to be that. I see an entire world being possible where Trump does this bullshit about the Epstein stuff and then Alex makes a big stink, yells about it, and then a month later is like, well, other people aren't going to deport everybody. Maybe we need to make peace with this pedophile cult. It was all Clinton.

Yeah. Yeah. So I think that it has the feeling of a moment that has a historical, like, this is the breaking point, but then also could not. It's tough to be on post 1,000 episodes and be like maybe things that's tough It's real tough because our evidence pointing backwards very strong. Yeah, there's too many times where where it's felt like aha Yeah, possibly follow Trump after this

Those Duke boys don't give a shit about reality. It seems like there's no chance of like, can't escape. Of the Epstein stuff being non-breaking point. Yeah. Yeah. Permanent. Yeah. But, eh. I mean, when have you ever seen walls slowly close in on somebody with spikes, successfully close in on somebody. They always escape at the last minute. See that's because they only exist in movies. I think if they existed in the real world... Yeah, you think they'd be pretty effective?

Yeah, and I think you wouldn't see it a lot. Right. Well, trash compactors have pretty high success rates on crushing things into small stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't people used to put them in like cars? You know what? I don't even need to think about this right now.

Nope. So we'll be back and check in on how this path unfolds for Alex, but until then, we have a website. Indeed we do, it's knowledgeright.com. Yep, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am the mysterious professor. Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!

And now here comes the sex robots. Woo yeah woo yeah woo! And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Chanzas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.