Knowledge Fight - #1058: June 23, 2025
Episode Date: July 21, 2025In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to find Alex covering important topics like a potential war with Iran, Tucker Carlson's secret job with the CIA, and the possibility that Trump has been pos...sessed by a demon.
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We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little
Bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you. What's up?
What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot is we just got back from seeing Superman. We did no spoilers
I don't want to ruin anything for anybody, but a dog factors heavily into this movie very important
I think that's in the ads. Yeah, I don't think I'm ruining anything for anybody.
I mean, for me, very hype.
Very hype.
You love a nice dog.
Top tier part of the movie.
Absolutely.
So we went to go see this at the Alamo Drafthouse.
And this is where my bright spot comes in.
I love sneaky waiters.
OK.
All right.
I think the people who work there do such a great job
Yeah, because they are they are tasked with doing something that is probably distracting and annoying to a lot of people
So they have to try and do their job and not be disruptive
Yeah, and I I'm just amazed that they can pull it off. They're not my cap. It's very
like when you see one of those plays where they have the like
six people who are are dressed from head to toe in black and you can just see them moving the sets
in and out as though there was a insignificant blob like changing things. That's that they're
that good. They were very good. Just tip toeing around. Absolutely. You have to hunch over. And
they were they were in plain
clothes too. They weren't wearing uniforms with little name tags or anything. So you
were like, maybe this person's going to sit next to me. But then they were gone in a flash.
And they just brought you popcorn. They just brought you popcorn. So anyway, that was fun.
I liked that. What's your bright spot? My bright spot is very similar, based around
the same place. I was talking to you, we were talking to you about
it just a little bit, but I went to the bathrooms and they were so clean. And this is in Wrigleyville.
And it was-
Not a neighborhood known for clean in our history.
It transported me into a stepping through the past of being in Wrigleyville and just the sheer volume of
shitty toilets in my history of Wrigleyville. And this one was perfect. And I don't know
what my bright spot is. I don't know if my bright spot is that it used to be shitty or
that it isn't shitty now.
I bet you could find a lot of really bad bathrooms.
Oh, I bet you could. They're still there. Yeah, no, you got to find them. The right across the street from sluggers. Yeah, and true. I'm pretty sure those bathrooms will be torn up
Yeah, and they listen whatever whatever improvements Wrigley may make or may not make they're still gonna be the troughs
Everybody's gonna pee into a big trough. That's what's gonna wriggly itself
Yes, that's what's gonna happen till the day we all die and I'd like to I'd like to this isn't a bright spot
It's not really a dark spot. It's just a like let's correct the record kind of thing. I
After the movie was like hey Jordan. Let's go to the batting cages at Slaugers
And you said no, right now we know from this podcast that you're from sports
I am from sports and yet I
Suggested a sport right and you said no, okay. I want to go home. All right. All right
I say I I put it to you that should I have agreed we would not have followed through regardless
I guarantee we would have if you had said yeah fuck. Yeah, let's do it easier to say now
Than it was back. You know what?
You might be right, but only because the Cubs game was just getting out.
That is kind of the thing.
Yeah.
If the Clark Street hadn't been flooded with people, I do think I would have been like,
no, fuck you.
You agreed, let's go.
Let's go to the Baton Cage.
I think if we had both known how many people were going to be just in the way, we might
have just been like, let's go there and wait for people to clear out maybe I would have been
fine with that if we didn't have an episode to record to that's another
fact the fact that it was about 45 minutes ago yeah you don't love sports
as much as you say you do I'm an old man I'm an old man and death comes to us all
perhaps it's come to me sooner than I would appreciate.
Yeah.
Take some swings.
Loosen it up.
Maybe.
So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
We're gonna be talking about Superman
and June 23rd, 2025.
All right, okay.
Alex is in a tough spot.
Oh yeah?
Much like Superman at some point in the movie.
At some points in the movie.
Everyone knows there's gonna be a tough spot for him
because he has to rise above something. I mean, all movies essentially have at least one conflict. Superman at some point in the movie at some points in the movie knows there's gonna be a tough spot for that is to
Rise above something. I mean all movies essentially have at least one conflict, right? Yeah, and Alex is in that conflict
Yeah, he's in the belly of the whale as it were right because he killed Gene Hackman
Yes, America is still in an active civil war. Yes. He has not
Told us has ended true and Iran and Israel are fighting.
Yeah.
And now Trump has attacked Israel, or attacked Iran, excuse me.
We had avoided World War III, but now World War III has begun.
It has to have.
Yeah.
And Alex is in a tough, tough situation.
We all are in a way, yeah.
Yep.
And we'll see how he navigates that.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
That's a great idea.
So first, hello, Zephy Weppy. This is your shout out coming to you directly from your sashi. Thank you so much
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Thank you so much.
Yes, thank you very much.
So we start off on the 23rd and Trump has bombed Iran and Alex is kind of clinging on
to some, ah, maybe this is just him taking out the nuclear stuff so Israel doesn't have
as much of a reason to want to...
It could be a peaceful bombing.
It is possible that this is a bomb that will inspire peace as we all know bombs have done
historically.
Or at very least, I really don't want Trump to want regime change.
It would be nice if he would just pull it back.
Or at least if his goal isn't to do regime change.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
The last 25 years of US history has created a sour tone around the idea of regime change.
Yeah, our entire adult lives might have had something to do with it.
Unfortunately Trump took to social media and Alex has had his balloon burst.
It was 11, almost 12 days ago that Israel started its bombardment of Iran.
We were all told it was just to get their nuclear sites. What's about regime change? Then
three or four days later, the guy really ran on the show. Benjamin Netanyahu said,
no, it's regime change. And then yesterday, Trump came out and said, it's not politically correct to
use the term regime change, but if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again,
why wouldn't there be a regime change make Iran great again?
And now to top that off, Trump just threatened Russia with our nuclear submarine, launched
cruise missiles and said, we've got nuclear weapons delivery systems 20 years advanced over every other nation
and said Kremlin spokesperson and former president of Russia Mnyshchuk better not be talking about nuclear weapons when he says nations are moving including North Korea who's announced they are
planning to do it and they do what they say they're going to do nuclear weapons. Putin has come out and issued a warning. Kremlin warns that other nations
ready to give Iran nukes dangerous escalation has begun says Putin.
Oh man that sounds like shit. It sounds bad. That's rough. That's rough. It seems like
somebody is at fault for not doing what it is they want him to do, I guess, right? I mean, Trump saying, why is regime change a dirty word?
Hey, maybe on New Crush.
For all of the reasons that it is.
This is bad.
Alex is having a real moment where the person that you've sold us is not this person.
You know, like, the audience has to recognize, like, this is way out of step with what we
would have expected someone with the knowledge, with the awareness that Alex has said Trump
has.
This is not how they would respond to this.
Yeah.
Yep.
It is a, like, it feels like when you're, when you got a thing of, we just saw a movie.
So like when you got a thing of popcorn in the microwave, and you had it as an initial
pop, pop, pop, those are the people going,
maybe I've been conned, right?
And now as time goes on, we're experiencing a greater number
of pops as things go along, but you know there's always
those straggler pops that refuse to become popcorn slash
admit that they were conned.
So we're just trying to figure out where it is We are on that. Yeah, there's some
People are destined to remain a Colonel. Yeah, are we burnt colonels?
Is that what Alex is going to be will he have burnt Colonel? No, he's a lieutenant. He's a nice well done
So I do think that there's something to be said for Alex and that is that he says things and in this next clip
He says this is bullshit
Where you know, I can't really argue it. It's bullshit. I don't care and I don't believe Alex. He's not a sincere person Yeah, but can't really argue with this bullshit
So that's where we are. You can say you're for bombing Iran. You can say you're against it
And Trump did always say he didn't want to have a nuclear
program, but he wasn't for full war and regime change. And so he could say, Hey, I didn't
lie. I'm the peace president. And he's certainly been doing a good job trying to do this with
Russia until now. But it is not truthful for a campaign promise to now endorse regime change.
So my integrity and the truth always comes first.
Does it?
It makes me physically sick
to see all the great things Trump's doing domestically
and with the economy and sovereignty
and going after all the left is brainwashing
and trying to break our will.
I mean, it's beautiful.
And the deportations and the sex traffickers being arrested,
I mean, mass arrest all over the place, all this good news.
And then right in the middle of it,
a trillion pound turd in the punch bowl.
It was very obvious we were gonna end up
in a place like this because Alex has already been
in this place multiple times.
Where he looks like he's finally realizing
that this Trump guy sure isn't acting like the guy Alex has been pretending he was.
Strangely, it seems like a lot of these moments come about because Trump has done something
that's against Russia's foreign policy objectives, which makes sense, because as we've determined,
America first loves Russia.
There would be a lot of pleasure in basking in the I told you so type feelings, but none
of this even matters to someone like Alex because he isn't just now realizing that Trump sucks. He's always known,
but his desire for things like terrorizing LGBTQ folk and immigrants that always outweighed his
embarrassment to pretending that Trump wasn't a piece of shit. When he has these moments,
it's generally because the thing that Trump did was so egregious that there's no real spin for it, and he just needs to punt.
You can't try to tell the audience that Trump isn't in favor of regime change in Iran when
he's posting on social media about how he's into regime change in Iran.
If Alex ever believed that Trump was a good guy who should be in office, him posting something
like this should be seriously a cause for
reflection because Alex would have to recognize that he's super wrong.
Yeah.
And wrong on a level where your analysis might be a public danger.
So you might need to rethink really basic pieces of it.
We've seen this go down before that typically Alex will give this little performance about
how his principles matter so much to him and he just can't go along with this.
Then shit will cool off and he'll remember how critical Trump is to advancing the white
nationalist agenda and things will go back to him loving Trump or I'll call good things
good and bad things bad or whatever.
Status quo will return.
One of these times you have to think that he'll finally have had enough.
But here on the 23rd, this really feels like the same on again, off again style relationship
that he has with Trump.
It's just at the point where there's no way he can, with a straight face, defend this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a little...
Okay.
So when you're dealing with cults, right, there's the initial period where you got the
charismatic leader, but then a lot of times
what will happen is eventually some of the crimes that you commit when you're a cult
leader will catch up with you and you'll wind up going to jail.
But the cult might just stick around and there's somebody who steps in to the power vacuum
and gets to say, oh, the cult leader totally told me we need to do this and that's what you got to do with Trump
The Trump can't Trump needs to be in prison and you got to be like, oh this guy Trump
He was telling me that we got to go do these things that coincidentally we all wanted to do that or him be dead
It would be yeah, I mean if you've got a charismatic leader
You kill him almost immediately and then you go right because the alternative of what you need to do is do another tea party
Yeah, you need to do the tea party all over again and turn Trump into Bush. Yeah, and then create your own like
Real right wing. Yeah
That you know that Alex could do that
He's done it before can't see that turning into a downward spiral that takes all of us with it
No, but that that's the other way to get rid of the baggage of Trump would be to make him
a neocon or something like that.
No, he's much better as a martyr than a living thing.
Yeah, and this is the difficulty.
That's the problem.
So Trump has bombed Iran and now we're waiting for Iran's response.
Alex doesn't know if like, what are they going to do?
Is it going to be like a nuke?
Are we all dead?
I mean, it would be, it would be an interesting turn.
Yeah.
He's straight up like reflecting on air.
How long would it take for a missile to reach the U.S. if it went over the North Pole?
Like he's, he's like,, it might have half an hour left.
Yeah. I believe, because I wrote about this, I believe it's 45 minutes from somewhere to
LA.
Okay. So you and Alex were in similar head space.
I remember that being a plot point is like, everybody says that you've got like 45 minutes
no matter where you are.
Okay. That's good to know. So Alex doesn't know exactly what's going to happen, but something's going to happen.
And then it turns out that Iran has decided to launch missiles at US bases in Qatar.
Okay.
Reuters now reporting, CIA MI6, that's where the airspace is in Qatar. The fact
that Qatar went on lockdown and
close its airspace first. Hours
and hours ago. And that now
that's where the missiles are
going. Points towards a back room deal for face saving and the Iranians may be getting ready to capitulate. I'm
not saying that's about to happen and if Trump can pull this off I'll still be
pissed off that he went back on what he said he would do for the first time
pretty much ever and it means the neocons to manipulate us in the future
but Trump's argument is that'll be a show of strength to the Russians and the Chinese.
But if these missiles do not hit the base, the big giant air base we have there, then
it means that the Mullahs have choked, at least for now.
So Iran launched missiles at a US base in Qatar in retaliation for Trump's strike and
it went about how one might expect.
US air defense is pretty competent so the missiles were mostly intercepted.
To minimize civilian casualties, Iran warned Qatar and Trump even said that he got early
notice and then called the attack quote very weak and was glad that Iran quote got it all out of their system. In the sense that it didn't turn into an all-out
war that's a positive but it's still really crazy kinds of brinksmanship and
Qatar definitely wasn't happy about it. After the attack Trump said that Iran and
Israel had agreed to a ceasefire which seemed to be a surprise to Iran. They
hadn't agreed but were willing to not retaliate if Israel stopped their attacks and this peace held for a matter of hours before there were accusations
flying in both directions of attacks. Trump got all mad about it and said, quote, we basically
have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what
the fuck they're doing. And he said that both sides violated the ceasefire, but it was back
in effect and everything was fine great so
Things are fine. I mean it was it is nice to hear the first honest thing
He said about the Middle East which is yeah, nobody knows what the fuck they're doing so that's fair
That's nice, too. We're all in agreement there
Yeah, I don't I don't know if it's right the way he means it, but probably not probably not an interpretation There's a larger sense of this is not going well, and if it was we wouldn't be here. I should spare. Yeah
so Alex covers this news of the the
Attack of Iran responding checking this base in Qatar. Yeah, and I noticed that his sourcing is interesting
We are back live into hour number two.
There are reported and you can see the video ongoing attacks with ballistic missiles over
the main US military, Navy and Air Force base in the Middle East, Qatar.
All the other bases are on alert.
There's reports of missiles coming in and hitting bases in Iraq.
We are tracking that as it unfolds. We're getting a Nick Sordor post with a
Corporate media report that they're saying that none of the missiles according to the Pentagon
Hit any of the US bases
we don't know that's because the patriot battery stopped him or because the Iranians as they did in 2020 fired them into the
Desert or in an unpopulated area. I want to bring sharp attention to what's going on here.
Alex is covering this unfolding situation where there may be a world war starting, and
the source he's pointing to is something that Nick Sortor posted on Twitter.
If you're watching Alex's show, then you might just think to yourself, I can just follow
Nick Sortor on Twitter and get the exact same information that Alex has.
This show really is just watching a guy read Twitter and get the exact same information that Alex has. This show really is
just watching a guy read Twitter and say, I knew that was going to happen. And at certain point,
you can just cut out the middleman. You can read Twitter yourself and tell yourself that you knew
that that was going to happen and get about the same kind of juice out of it. But if you go a step
deeper, you'll notice that Nick Sortor's tweet is just him posting a clip from the corporate news.
If you wanted all of the information that's available here, you could just watch the corporate news.
You're just getting the exact same product with just with layers of bullshit editorial spin added on top of it by people who are desperate to pretend that they're not just stealing contact from actual journalists.
Yeah.
they're not just stealing contact from actual journalists. Without the corporate news actually doing the work here, Nick wouldn't have this clip
to post on his Twitter with his narrative attached, and then Alex wouldn't have a tweet
to cover on his show.
They should tip CNN is what I'm saying.
They deserve a cut.
I mean, yeah.
It's pathetic the way that these people just they rely on the thing that they decry so much. Yeah
I guess they're just parasites really you know like they don't make anything
They just try and extract what value and wealth they can while
Everybody else waits for them to die. I guess I don't know I don't know what to tell you. It's very strange
Yeah, fucking lying media the lot the lies of the lying media now the corporate media
Is in this post from Nick Sartor like we needed we needed
Bob Saget back in the day because people had to
Videotape things on an actual magnetic thing and then send it in a in a man in the mail
Do another human being who would value it and then maybe it would make it on TV.
We needed that, we don't need that now.
There's no point in sagging here
and Alex is basically the sagging of bullshit Nazism.
Well, but the problem is there's a difference
between someone getting hit in the head with a football
and news. There's entertainment value even if you fake a home video,
in America's funniest home video.
So that's fine.
If you just have any random ding dong
just sending videos in,
you're gonna end up with a lot of like Sasquatch news.
And that's why Nick Sortor relies
on the mainstream media to actually do the work of journalism. Sure. And he can take
their things. So it's not just a bunch of Sasquatch videos. Anyway, Alex, I think I
think that there's an indication here of why like he shouldn't cover breaking news. Right.
It's just not a good thing for him to do. Any number of reasons, but yes.
I think this clip highlights some of it.
Reports of three direct hits on the air base in Qatar.
Al Udeid.
Well, that's not good news if that's true.
Let's hear the audio of that clip when you get it ready.
Boy, I hope that's not true.
Great.
I hope that's not true.
I would like more news anchors to receive breaking news and just go, well, shit.
Fuck me.
That sounds terrifying.
I hope that's not true.
Anyways, we'll see you right next after Target commercials.
Here's a thing I saw on Twitter. Hope that's bullshit. Oh boy. Hope that's not true. Anyways, we'll see you right next after Target commercials. Here's a thing. I saw on Twitter
Hope that's bullshit. Oh boy. Oh, oh, that's not true. Anyways, we'll see you later. Let's go to the weather
That's not a good method of news. It's raining outside now. It's not my house. I hope that's not true. Mm-hmm
I think that I think that there's a reason that you want a little bit of neutrality
Professionalism maybe a little detachment even right out of a person who may be reporting breaking news
discipline is key
Yeah, so Alex is just reading Twitter and I realized that a lot of this content is just him stressing himself out
Reading tweets. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
It's crazy.
There's no need for this.
Bahrain and Kuwait bases now have active air sirens going off.
Now is that in response to thinking they may be about to struck or is this accurate?
Nick Sordor is almost always accurate.
He tracks everything.
Is he?
The Iranian government is now saying it fired the same amount of missiles at US assets as bombs the US dropped on them
Well, they dropped
How many of the big Bunker Busters 15 total on the three different sites?
But then there was also what 20 something cruise missiles
So do the math that would be
So if this is accurate and
shorter, you know, only goes
off what the Iranians are
saying, then it would look like
this is a face saving situation.
Again, if you're a new listener
and just tuned in, Trump is on
record and the Iranians
confirmed it was all face saving
in 2020 over the Salomon getting killed when they launched those 18
missiles at the base in Iraq
and had a couple of miles away
hit sand dunes. I don't know,
but if they hit real targets
and people get killed, you know,
Trump's going to escalate, and
that means they decided to
escalate. And last week when he
gave him two weeks, they said,
Nope, screw you. So that's why he went ahead and greenlit week when he gave him two weeks, they said, nope, screw you.
So that's why he went ahead and greenlit it.
And I said on Thursday, I said, I don't believe they're going to back down at this point.
So I don't know. I am on the edge of my seat. This is absolute torture.
So stop. You don't need to do this.
So stop. You don't need to do this. This is not like why why it's fascinating to this show. This exact show. Yeah, is such an interesting snapshot because it is just a guy kind of
making himself nervous. Yeah, it's yeah, there isn't information that's being added to the like you're not getting good analysis of Qatar
Iran Israel Trump any of it. Yep. Just watching a guy kind of be like
Maybe the world's gonna blow up. Maybe it's not maybe it's face-saving. Maybe we're all dead, but maybe we're not who knows
Let's check Nick Sartor's Twitter. Yeah, it's stupid. I
Okay. Okay. All right, so
listening to this
Feels like if i'm watching a mouse, right and it's programmed if it presses a button
It'll get a little shock and at first you're like, oh this shock is on is I don't like it
But it keeps pressing the button and then it never stops pressing the button because the only thing that it lives for
Is the tiny little shock that one little shock gets it to the next little shock and that is what it feels like listening to Alex Jones
Like he's just going like oh, they're doing this. Okay
They're doing this
But then tomorrow none of it happened no no right like what are you doing?
I don't know. I mean the Civil War is still looming in the background Alex is not None of it happened. No. No. Right? Like what are you doing?
I don't know.
I mean the Civil War is still looming in the background.
Alex is not, he doesn't care about that.
God damn it.
Take your daughter fishing for once.
It'd be nice.
Jesus.
So, you know, I think a lot of this is Twitter.
You obviously just take, scroll in Twitter, finding things that work and then responding
to them.
But at a certain point
more Intel is coming in.
Okay.
And that's very exciting.
All right.
But it's still taking shape.
So Alex needs to do a plug and then he'll get to that Intel.
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give me the big news in a moment. I'm still collating it.
Bringing that marina fall information, please. These guys are the best at just scooping all the latest data my crew and
them as well. But I'm still collating the good news I just
got hoping it is good. It's looking good. It's looking good.
It's looking good. It's looking good. It's looking good. It's looking good. Is it looking good?
Yeah, because Trump or Alex has seen another tweet from Mario Nafal that he's like, this is good.
This is his other intel. His other intel that's coming in is another guy on Twitter.
This is horrifying.
It is.
This is horrifying.
It is. So stupid. Now, if you want to be driven crazy to the point where you're going to jump off the balcony, I do. Okay, listen
to Alex, say this, okay. Because during the break, I was
looking at some of the comments on X going through videos, I
love to see people say I find lots of Intel, I would have
thought of. They're like, what's Jones talking about? What do you
mean Trump made a deal with Iran to do limited strikes. That's made up. Just
dealing with the level of the public that is just now getting politically
involved and militarily informed. It's like talking to two year olds or it's
like you're an auto mechanic that's been doing it 50 years. You're a master
mechanic and then somebody comes in that has never any mechanic work and you're
telling them how things work and they're like, you don't know that.
How do you know how that works?
It's just frustrating people.
Yeah.
People are stupid on Twitter.
That's what you're going to find when you do.
All you do is like cruise around on Twitter, try and find hot tweets, find comments on
tweets to try and give yourself an angle.
You can steal for something, get some intel.
Of course you're gonna run into a bunch of stupid people saying stupid shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
Why would a 50 year old man be complaining about this?
I mean, it's not unlike, aw man, everybody into these places I go to, they're all fucking demons.
They're all a bunch of assholes. Every time I all fucking demons. They're all a bunch of assholes.
Every time I go to these places they're all a bunch of assholes.
Now admittedly I only go to hell.
That could be, I could have something to do with it.
I could be going to a place where only the thing that I'm complaining about exists.
Maybe I shouldn't be on comment boards.
Everybody at this clan rally is a fucking racist.
Bunch of racists up in here.
I'm just interested in their tax policy.
This person over here, he's got good intel but he's got his face covered with the mask.
I think that this is just so sad.
And what I love about this is the stakes of what's going on is that Trump has bombed Iran
and Iran is responding.
So there is a real tension point right
here in the world, in the real world. Yeah. And Alex's show as he's covering this is just
dicking around on Twitter and then whining about how people don't respect him enough on Twitter
and how people are dumb on Twitter. It's pathetic. The juxtaposition of this really highlights how stupid he is.
It feels like he uses the YouTube comments as his thumb sucking.
He's sucking his thumb.
There's a lot of stuff going on.
He's anxious, but also he's happy now, but also he could be anxious at any moment again.
News can change that fast.
Right.
Right?
So he goes to the comment section to hear people go like, you were right all the time,
Alex.
And he's like, yeah, I was goes to the comment section to hear people go like you're right all the time Alex and he's like yeah I was right all the time, but then sometimes people go
What the fuck are you talking about and then not even his his thumb sucking helps him anymore? Yeah, this is sad
I think that's there's a part of it that is that self-soothing
Yeah, and then I think that there's another part of it. That is kind of a dark
reflection of
The way that the media, you know, needs to make a horse
race out of an election.
Sure.
It has to be 50-50, even if you're reporting on things honestly, it should not be.
Yeah, we shouldn't even be talking about it, let's face it.
Right.
The media requires that or else it becomes like you're obviously too biased or whatever.
Never gone wrong before.
So the dark reflection of that for Alex is that simultaneously Iran has to be nuking us
and it's face-saving.
Both of these things have to be 50-50 true or else like what is the show?
If Iran isn't doing anything then Trump is in bed with this kind of war theater.
That's not good.
If you land on that.
No.
And the other side of it is they're not coordinating and Iran is about to nuke all the U.S.
All the sleeper cells are about to be activated in the United States.
Your mom's dead.
Both of these things have to be true because both have to be false.
Yes.
And Alex needs like, he needs that.
And that's what's preserved by, like, ugh, let's go on Twitter and find Intel.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's why, that's why I've found a lot of people like to read books, you know?
Instead of just scrolling through Twitter.
Yeah.
As far as information is concerned.
But maybe I'm wrong. That's because it's actually like I don't know in term and when
On the scale of information to not information information is better than not information tends to be yeah now
so I think that there's a little bit of a
Infuriating element to Alex complaining about how stupid people are on Twitter when he's just stealing Twitter shit all about on a show
Yeah, it's very frustrating as it is as his words were but when he starts complaining about Ted Cruz
Because of he did that interview with Tucker right and embarrassed himself by not knowing the population of Iran and various other things sure
Alex says something about Ted Cruz that he should punch himself.
Let's hear it.
Okay, I wanna show one more thing
that I'm going to your calls,
because this just shows the mindlessness
and the propaganda of people like Ted Cruz.
When Tucker Carlson interviewed him last week,
it was like, do you know about their weapons systems?
Do you know about their population?
Do you know about who the alliances are?
He's like, I don't need to know any of that. I just know they're bad. Well, do you
know their population? No. Well, it's three times the size of Iraq, three times the population.
And Ted Cruz post Tucker Carlson interviewing Luke Skywalker. What is the population of
the Death Star? And J Dyer says Ted Cruz has to appeal to his evangelical boomer audience using children's sci fi
because that's the maturity level of evangelical boomers. It really
is.
So leaving aside the very
sorry, what were you gonna say you were gonna say something was
very obvious that your Chewbacca impression could have been I mean, I've been so puerile and infantile
to make a children's sci-fi reference
that I wouldn't do it.
I mean, this is really him insulting his own audience
and his own methodology, like, devastatingly.
I think that there's something deeply,
deeply, obviously awful about that.
But also, let's think about this for a second.
What is Alex doing?
He's reporting on something Jay Dyer tweeted
about something Ted Cruz tweeted
about an interview Tucker did.
This is like fourth-hand coverage of an editorial interview.
This is crazy.
It is.
They're so obsessed with Twitter.
The idea is essentially supposed to be I am curating the information that you receive.
Thus, I am in control of the conversation. The conversation that you have will be based
around the information that I give you. If you all, I guess, subsume that into,
well, now I'm just another person on Twitter.
I just have a, you can just watch me.
Unlike other people on Twitter who tweet things
and you have to read those words,
I am going to tweet things at Twitter and you can see me.
That's not anything.
That's nothing.
That's emptiness.
No, and I think that the way that I
would compare it is like, okay, at the bottom of this is an interview that Tucker Carlson did with
Ted Cruz. If you're covering Jay Dyer tweeting something Ted Cruz tweeted about the interview
itself, you don't know what happened in that interview. You don't know that you can't really speak competently or anything about the actual interview
Yeah in the same way that I could tell you Emanuel Kant sucks. Sure. You don't know anything
But you could just say hey, he sucks. Yeah, he does you don't know anything about Kant though from me telling you he sucks
Yeah, I know he sucks the primary piece of it. you still have no familiarity with. Right. You're getting no actual information. Right. Except for I think
Kant sucks. Sure. Alex is just reporting to us that Jay Dyer thinks Ted Cruz sucks. Yep.
And that Jay Dyer apparently thinks the way that Alex talks to his own audience is infantile.
Yep. And, and even back in the day when Twitter was Twitter, the Twitter
that we remember from things, right? It would still be too late. You're already fourth in
line for the conversations already gone. The conversation moved on. You're, you're too
late. What are you doing wasting your own time?
So Alex is talking about this, uh, Jay Dyer tweet about Ted Cruz's tweet about Tucker's interview. I want to explode. Yeah, I want to just explode
Yeah, well, yeah, you might like this then this might be a soothing balm before you
Yeah, because Alex says something that I think is the one of the craziest things he's ever said on air
All right, and if I mean I took a shower this morning.
No, that's crazy.
Tucker spent years and years in the Middle East.
That's been his beat.
And when he was 17, sit down to Iran Contra to be with the
Contras by his dad, high level CIA.
And then Tucker got refused entry into the CIA.
But the point is, is that he's been working
for the guys, the bad guys,
but he admits he woke up 15 years ago
and is now on our team.
And came to town 14 years ago to apologize to me.
He's on our team 100%.
Wait, so Tucker is CIA?
What are you talking about? He just outed a CIA agent. Apologize to me. He's my team 100% wait, so Tucker's CIA
He just outed a CIA
Could you possibly be?
Oh my god. Yeah, so if any of that's true Alex should probably be killed, right? I mean like he's he's he if Tucker is a CIA agent
Alex has blown his his cover right Alex is committed. Alex has committed arguably treason.
Yeah, absolutely.
Don't you remember what happened with Valerie Plame?
Right, okay. Right. But if I'm the CIA, and Alex Jones is outed an agent, I go like, well,
this is the best job I've ever taken. Sure, I'm a CIA agent. It doesn't help your case
if I am or I am not.
You mean if you're Tucker?
Yeah, if you're Alex. If Alex is calling you a CIA agent and you are a CIA agent, you're
like, yeah, come on. What does it matter? You can't do anything to me.
Well, yeah, the source that this is coming from is you're not endangered by this revelation.
But even so, even if your idea is this guy was recruited into the CIA, wink wink, he
was rejected, wink wink, into the CIA, and then he comes to me.
And he apologizes.
First off, let's go with just how many layers of...
He was rejected, which to you means that he was
accepted. Yeah. Right? So he apologized which to you should mean he is still in the CIA manipulating
you. Yeah. Right? You'd have to be pretty fucking dumb to not think that like oh this person is
running a game. You're the least trustworthy person in the world
if you're Tucker and you're also lying
about being a CIA agent.
And second, like, his dad was high level.
It's a generational thing. Absolutely, absolutely.
It's something that he's been in since he was a kid
when he was sent to Iran Contra.
I mean, like, even if, I think of Tucker
as a untrustworthy person, even without him also having an underlying lie
that controls everything he does.
Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
So then to add on top of that, the like,
oh, and also he's probably an agent of the government
who's been tracking me and following me
for my entire adult career.
Tucker's my handler.
Right?
How is that not what he just said? You are saying that as if it was a joke, but
I think one to one that could be distilled as to what he literally just said.
No it's not, but it's the kind of thing that a conspiratorial brain would come up with
having heard that. If you believe these things are true and you're like, hey, what's going
on here? Like in the same way that Alex says that his dad was like in MK Ultra. Sure, uh, hey, uh, what's going on here? Like, in the same way that Alex says that his dad was, like, in MK Ultra.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
It's like, okay, you know that the conspiratorial angle on this
is going to be that you are the child of Mengele.
Yeah, no, I'm just saying that it's reasonable if I have a friend
who I think joined the CIA and was... he's lying to me about it.
He's literally coming to me and lying to me about it
How do I then go like oh well this apology is?
Honest I think the implication here is that Alex is pretending that Tucker has told him that he's CIA so Tucker's not lying to him
Right, but he's lying to everybody else, but that's part of the manipulation because he's in this it you can't trust him. Yeah
No, here's what I struggle with. I don't think this happened
I mean, I know that Tucker did come to Austin and do an interview with Alex where they sort of settled their beef sure
Uh a bit in advance of Trump like it was it was before that sure
So I know that that did happen when I was referring to as he came and apologized to me
Yeah, but I don't I don't think there's a revelation of him being CIA. I don't think that part is real
But if it did happen, yeah, if he's telling the truth or if he's lying Tucker in that situation. Yeah
Don't trust it. Yeah, you can't you cannot because if he's lying to you
Then there's a reason he's lying to you about being in the CIA. He had some kind of agenda. Absolutely.
If he's not lying to you and that he is in the CIA, then this telling you it is probably
part of another attack.
It's part of the whole thing.
Yeah.
Everything is a layer of the whole thing.
There's only one thing.
Either way, Alex is really good at respecting privacy, keeping secrets.
Here's a problem that I have that I feel like keeps popping up is Iran
contra does not seem to be a problem at all to anybody anymore. It is just a historical
thing that happened. It's not like, Hey, the people involved were lying and the whole thing
and it's against the law and all this stuff and they never face consequences for it. Like
we're all just
Rest in peace Larry Nichols.
Yeah. R.I.P. buddy. Hard rice and soft rice.
No, and also Larry- Larry Nichols.
The Iran Contra has become like MKUltra.
Yeah.
It's become such a generalized term that like, what are you even talking about?
They sold guns for coke to sell for guns.
I don't even know what their plan was, really.
Rice.
Yeah, exactly.
Jesus Christ.
So in this next clip,
Alex says something that I think will be fun
to revisit later,
because I think that it's fun when people-
It's probably gonna age well.
Oh, it's gonna age great.
I bet.
Anybody saying we should shut up is very un-American.
I get lots of, you need to move to wherever,
you need to get out of here,
you're a manga imposter.
Yeah, right. I was fighting the New World Order and most of you need to move to wherever you need to get out of here. You're a manga imposter. Yeah, right. I
was fighting the New World Order most you were in diapers and
We're on record with the polls. They didn't battle around states Roger Stone's talked about it
Even the Democrats admit it's why they hate me that my audience you the activist in the battle around states put him over the top
in 2016
So we took Trump this broadcast, you, it's not just me. Literally, it's you.
You carried Trump over the finish line into the end zone. He belongs to us.
He's ours. Oh boy. He's ours. I take credit for me and my audience made him the president.
We installed him and thank God he's's gonna reveal everything about Epstein.
Yes, we got him elected, something that I am proud to say,
despite knowing, and in fact having a best friend
who is convicted of tampering with said election
that we were in charge of and take responsibility for.
Yeah.
It's cool, it's cool.
This is not going to be something that might become
a little bit of an anchor around his neck.
I mean, I just wanna associate myself with the guy
who does everything I say he's not doing.
So Alex does take some calls,
and he gets a call from a guy who's like,
I think Trump might be a lizard person.
I'm in.
I think lizard people conspiracies,
it's time they come back.
Yeah.
This guy is like, this is not the same Trump
he's been taking over.
Fantastic.
Right?
And I think something clicks inside Alex's mind.
All right.
That he's like, I think this works.
We got to walk in?
We got to fake Trump?
We got to walk in Trump? All right, now we're talking. Kick We got a walk in. We got a fake Trump. We got a walk in Trump.
All right now we're talking kick this into a new gear.
Yeah.
So Alex decides maybe, you know, maybe they've replaced Trump.
Yeah, man.
Let's see what we can do with this.
All right.
I've been thinking about saying this and I'm not held back on it because I'm hiding something.
I've known about this for a while and I've got more information on it. And you
pretty much you've already seen what I'm talking about. Once I say it, you'll know everything.
You already knew it. But Trump is not a bad person. This one isn't but under all the incredible
pressure he's been put under. There are different types of people and there are people the more
you mess with them the stronger they get and the meaner they get and instead of
cracking down they kind of crack up not crack up like in pieces they they the media. They're not. Not
crack up like in pieces. They.
They transform and Trump, you
know, is his way calmer way
more focused. Seems like he
doesn't care in these press
conferences is a care where
the media attacks him anymore.
He literally got to the point
of not giving it F is what you heard last year in July. And all the pressure on his family and all the endless hours and all the work and
He definitely is a different person and I've had it described to me by people very close to him
And Let's just say he is beyond confident at this point. He was already really confident before but
Trump thinks he's invincible. There you have it. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Because what do you think?
It's bad.
You know, cultivate this idea of being dangerous and reckless and hard to be predicted, unpredictable.
That's bad. That's bad. So this caller had called in and talked about like maybe lizard person that kind of shit
Yeah, and Alex is tiptoeing here. Yeah, he's saying Trump's a different person. Maybe he's just changed. Yes, he's changed
He's calm. He feels like he's invincible, which all of these things sound
Megalomaniacal and no like we should probably 5150 the president no no that doesn't sound true at all um
But I thought okay alex is when I was listening to this the impression that I got was
Alex is trying to smooth off the rough edges of what this caller has just said
He's trying to make it like all right. We're not gonna go lizard person
Yeah, but we're gonna go with something along the lines of
Trump has a different energy.
Something shifted.
Maybe they kidnapped his dog or something like that.
It seems like it's still within the realm of not supernatural.
It seems, now maybe I'm just boring.
Maybe I'm just boring.
Maybe I'm lazy.
Because it feels to me like the low hanging fruit is I wouldn't ask anybody Trump's age
to do anything, let alone run the world.
You know?
I wouldn't be like, hey, could you go down to the store and grab something very light
within your ability to count?
No, I can go do that myself.
I definitely don't want you to run the whole world.
Yeah, it's, he should be relaxing in his later years.
Yeah, go another place.
This is not the time for that. That's true. But what if, what if now this is gonna be
tough to hear. What if Trump has been engaging too much with the flesh?
Do you mean do I think Trump has been taking a godly amount of Viagra to fuck as many strange
women as he possibly can? No, no, no, no, no, no. You're taking your binds in the gutter.
When you engage with the flesh, it's not engaging with the spiritual enough
All right, not being like connected with God. You are just your meat. So does he drinking too many diet cokes? Probably
Okay, that sounds right. I don't know but he's doing that and okay might have ended up getting him a demon and it's such a big thing
I I need to write notes about it. I'm thinking about about a back. I don't want to like myself this because you all been through it under the
attacks under the demonization
under my family being attacked
all the things that went on. I
was just kind of fighting the
globalist doing my job,
believing in humanity, but
never wanted to really turn on
the world. I was just kind of
fighting the globalist doing my
job, believing in humanity, but
never wanted to really turn on
the world. I was just kind of fighting the globalists,
doing my job, believing in humanity,
but never wanted to really turn on the juice
and really be aggressive.
It was almost like it was embarrassing to me
if I really leveled up.
And I just made the decision last year to level up.
And now I knew what would happen.
Now it's happening again.
And now my discernment and my aggression
and my prowess is intensifying.
And I can see where this goes.
It's not satanic, but it's the flesh.
And the satanic can interface with the flesh
when you turn on too much of your innate berserker
barbarian Viking power.
And I'll just say it, that's what it is.
So it's very dangerous.
And you can tell Trump's jacked into the Holy Spirit more than ever and the flesh more than
ever.
It's quite the mix.
It's quite the mix.
What?
Thank God he's not using Star Wars analogies
He's be easy. He's talking like real mature intellectual stuff like yeah, you know there's there's a
That old you know like whatever gets you there. You know that kind of thought
Listen, I'm not gonna take you on this trip. You got to get there and as long as we wind up in the same place, that's fine. You know, like, but that's not, that's not always the case. This is not getting there.
This is not getting there.
It's, it's pretty dumb.
Nope.
So as a rule, I would say if you hear someone talking like that, what Alex is getting into,
you can walk away. Nothing good is coming after that. Like, you're not gonna get some
profound insight just after the flesh talk.
No, no, no.
Here's the thing.
Let me just make it clear for you.
If you're into the flesh, which Trump is super into, then you're going to have a demon.
But Trump is also super into the Holy Spirit and he's super into the flesh, which we know
means he has a demon.
So he's got 100% Holy Spirit and 100% demon him in simultaneously. and that way I can do whatever I want to do
tomorrow.
Sure.
As for Alex here, I think this is a really good call.
On June 23rd, it does look like the situation with Iran hasn't blown up and the retaliatory
strikes they did were mostly a face saving measure so the emergency is de-escalated.
But Trump still bombed them, which is pretty impossible to justify to the audience, so
Alex is still in hot water with that.
The clock ticking?
That's gone.
But Alex has to realize that this thread is still untangling for Trump, and he doesn't
want to just go down with the ship.
Alex is planting seeds here that he can try to grow later if he wants, with these very
subtle suggestions that maybe Trump has been possessed by a demon.
If it's possible that Trump's got a demon in him, then the status quo of supporting
Trump can be maintained, but if you have to bail at some point, you could just find that
little bit of evidence that you were missing that shows that he's possessed.
Alex is even trying to give this some credibility by backdating this shit, pretending that he's
been thinking about talking about it for a month.
This is a great narrative.
It's got supernatural intrigue.
It allows Alex to ditch Trump if things get too hard, and there's zero commitment.
He can just never bring this up again and no one will call him on it because it sounds
fucking silly to ask for clarification about a demon theory. So like, this is like, okay, well, if this feels good to say, I can develop this later
if I want, but then I can also just pretend I didn't do it.
I mean, yeah, let's just do a full reboot.
Say that Trump got taken over comic book style by a symbiote or whatever it is you like.
Yeah, a George Bush demon.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Done.
Moving on, now we can get rid of Trump, but we can still say that everything Trump did
believe in used to stand for.
And the last decade was not a waste of our time and we were not wrong to do these things.
We weren't conned.
We weren't conned at all.
No.
No.
Everything worked out exactly the way we wanted it to until this moment when he was possessed
by the demon of George W. Bush.
Right.
Is he dead yet?
Deus ex Bushina.
Oh, god.
I can't believe he's still alive.
The, yeah, this actually, ironically, this caller called
in was saying crazy dumb shit.
Yeah.
But it's-
It's the smartest thing to say.
Yes.
Yes, it's crazy dumb shit, but it is indeed
the smartest thing to say.
Well, because there's no standards for Alex's show.
There's no rules.
You can get away with just about whatever you want. Why wouldn't you?
Yeah, so this is this solves a lot of the literary problems the sort of narrative
Problems that Alex has and it's the judo of like how do we get off this train?
Aha, we get him off the train right great with the demon. Yeah, exactly boom
Now the train is out perfect Yep, so Alex talks a little bit about this energy this demon stuff that might demon that might have possessed
Who's chosen by God chosen by God God King?
All plans of mice and men and how is this how God works? I don't know
Okay, but Alex does cite a scholar at the end of this, okay
does cite a scholar at the end of this. Okay. And I'm not saying it's even satanic energy, it's more of just man's tightness will that you can activate. And you got to be careful
with it because I've gone through some similar things, nothing compared to this yet. And
instead of giving up, I just decided to overcome it, defeat it. And then it just turns on all
these primal energies that can swerve into devil territory.
So you feel the Holy Spirit more,
and you feel the evil more.
It is very metaphysical.
Is it?
That's what it is.
It's not like putting on the ring of Mordor,
but it gets close.
So here's a clip of Mike Tyson explaining it.
When God favors you, so's the devil.
When you're favored by God,
you're also favored by the devil. He's coming for you too.
So you just gotta be strong, stay on the right side.
Whose side you gonna go on?
He's gonna give you power too.
He's gonna give you head too, but whose side you gonna stay with?
You stay with who brought you here.
You go home with the guy that brought you to the dance.
And he goes on to talk about, I could win any of these fights, but I had to literally, the literally the devil on my shoulders say don't do it or I would have killed these people
Would you like to lick this toad? I would like
more
Conversation ending situations to involve and now listen to this as Mike Tyson explains it. Yeah, that's
Great now listen to me the president might be getting too into the flesh and that leads him to be open to demon possession.
Let's hear Mike Tyson.
No, it'd be great if I was in like a, if you know that day you're in sixth grade class
and the substitute teacher gives you like a little primer and then he's like, and now
for more Bill Nye is going to explain how to make this little experiment.
This is what Mike Tyson is for in 2025.
Right.
Certain people can control the weather through magic.
For more on that, bam bam bigalow.
Boom, here we go.
Let's see what he got.
Alright.
Why not make random figures correspondence for all kinds of random things?
Sure.
Yeah, absolutely.
And now our expert on trees, fucking Johnny Knoxville. He's a real. Yeah, I mean why not humans are able to teleport
You just aren't allowing yourself to do so for more on the story we go to
The junkyard dog
Old pro wrestler yeah, I know I just keep going back to to weird like yeah, never my parka
So
Alex is is like hey, man
We might have a demon trump on our hands right of course, and you know whose fault it is
Kissinger the left oh
What's telling you when you get power?
Whatever you want to call it. It's metaphysical, and here he is the most powerful person in the world that's been through all these trials,
the whole world, even his enemies, admire him.
Trump is on quite a trip.
You can call it what you want, but he's got to be careful and he's got to be humble because
this is the stuff of danger we're dealing with.
We'll be right back.
Hey, the left doing this helped create him.
How do you feel now, fools?
Fools?
You fools?
I think this is excellent.
This is actually something
that we should all be very grateful for
and everybody listening should keep this clip
available with you, okay?
Because any time somebody in the future
may have some sort of argument like,
oh, let's make this compromise with them now
because no, wrong, wrong.
It doesn't matter.
It is your fault because they don't like you because they can't deal with themselves.
There will never anything that Trump does will never be their fault.
It will always be our fault despite telling them not to do it.
Yeah.
And if Trump disappoints, then it's our fault for not going along with him or something.
Absolutely.
And accidentally created demon Trump.
It would have, hey listen, Trump would have been great if you guys would have been nicer
to him.
Right.
But now look at us, now we all have to suffer through this demon who I totally is, who isn't
doing the thing that you told me he was going to do.
Great.
Yeah.
I mean, this is stupid.
Like this kind of like, why did you have to be so mean to him and you you ended up creating this negative outcome?
Like if I really wanted to play that game, which I absolutely don't yeah
I I think I would just be like, okay, then Alex caused the Iraq War by saying that Bush did 9-eleven. Yep. Oh
Yep, what does it mean? it doesn't mean anything this is stupid
no I mean I feel I feel pilot I feel Pontius Pilate so hard now just like
that idea of like you know what yeah you guys you can solve this problem
hey whatever you want to do I don't care I don't care fuck you yeah I don't feel
that way because I know the consequences that are gonna come are gonna hurt a lot of people who don't deserve
To get hurt and I don't trust people like Alex and them to solve a problem
I would be surprised if they could yeah if they all lived in a bubble and they were fighting
I would say I don't really care sure but because it affects so many other people
It's hold on. So what you have just admitted is that you're on board with my bubble idea
I don't I don't think your bubble idea is an idea. I think we put them in a bubble, right?
That doesn't
It's not
It's not a thing. We can take steps towards sure there's a giant bubble
Yeah, I just the logistics they had a biodome. There was a movie
We got at least two people in one. Uh-huh. And one of them was a Baldwin
We could get all the bald ones in a bigger biodome. That's fair. Mm-hmm
So throughout this show the tension has been is Iran's response attack real. Yeah, is it posture? Yeah
And it seems like we've settled on to it's
just face saving. They're going through the motions. But Alex just saw another tweet.
Bad news. See, I said I thought it was retaliation response. He was attacks. Senior Iranian official
tells Reuters. But they did call the military
and say the missiles are coming.
And they did say they don't want to expand the war.
And Trump just said he wanted that.
So let's hope.
I think this is all up in the air.
You heard me first hour saying,
I don't think this is a Kabuki theater like before.
This is so much more kinetic, so much bigger.
Israel being flattened, Iran being flattened.
Russia talking about, you know, North Korea giving nukes to them.
But we're in a whole nother ballgame here, folks.
So here I am celebrating as it's all over the news that Iran's backing down and then
this, but I don't trust Reuters as far as I can throw it.
Remember they run wide scale deception campaigns on the public.
So this is a roller coaster. I don't know what anybody is meant to think about anything.
So I just think you're at a state where it's like, I don't know.
I don't know what Alex is saying.
I we're we're he's in the little treehouse of horror Simpsons like,
but it comes with ice cream.
That's good news.
Ah, but the ice cream is cursed.
That's bad news.
Like we're just going to be doing this forever.
We're just going to be going back and forth with reasons why the same thing happening
is good or bad and feeling a ways about it.
Yeah.
It makes you feel trapped.
Yeah.
It makes you feel like, okay, so do I take the ice cream or do I not?
Can I, Can I go?
Can I go about my life or should I be worried that Iran is about to nuke me?
You can, but you should also be worried about whether or not you...
Okay, so now I need to learn more.
Are you going to tell me more?
I can't, but I'm also going to.
I got intel coming in.
And by that, I mean I saw a tweet.
Jesus Christ.
So this leads to a return of an energy
that we haven't gotten to see in Alex in a while. Yeah. And I
for one enjoy it. Okay. All right. Here's the big news.
And we're going right to your phone calls. I Ryan, Iran fires
missiles at US air bases and guitar. Doha says attacks
intercepted no casualties. Iran says it reserves all options on the U. S. Air Base is a guitar
Doha says attacks intercepted
No casualties. Iran says it
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strikes. Iran Israel live.
Iran says launch missiles. U.
S Air Base and guitar rack on
alert. Well, that's not that's
not what I needed. We're gonna
go to rebroadcast for a while.
It's fine. I'm cool with it. I understand it was 15 minutes ago. It's Reuters that Iran says they're going to keep shooting the missiles. I just have to have it. Let's it's not a problem. It's not a problem. I'm gonna take a break for a while. I just hit my maximum overload here today. So that's just where we are right now. I'm gonna have to deal with this.
That's just where we are right now. I'm gonna have to deal with this. It's cool. It's cool. I'm cool. Everything's cool Everything's great Alex says your producer. I just want to point out that you have done this all entirely to yourself
Yeah, just in case you were wondering and I was thinking about why this energy reemerged
We haven't really seen him do I got to go to rebroadcast?
Yeah, it's been a while and I think that to understand it one of the ways that I helped
Conceive of it in my brain is like Alex is kind of a prop
comic.
A prop comic is a comedian whose act relies on physical props, without which their punchlines
wouldn't make sense.
If you're a prop comic and you've been building towards a punchline and when it's time to
pull out the prop your assistant has packed the wrong thing, it's going to affect your
performance.
You definitely can't just tell the joke like you planned, and you might want to storm off stage.
Alex is trying to tell a complex story on this episode which has a bunch of ups and
downs, and he needs his props to be able to navigate it. The bottom line is supposed to
be that Trump means well, but his advisors convinced him that attacking Iran was the
best thing to do for world peace. In response to that attack, Iran could do a face-saving
symbolic attack,
or a full-on attack that would indicate that this is the beginning of a world war.
The tension that's powering this show is that is it real or is it theater question, which has
more or less been resolved by this point. Qatar and Trump have said that they had advanced warning
of Iran's attack, which is a strong indication that this was face-saving. For Alex to continue telling this story, there needs to be ambiguity.
And if that doesn't exist on its own, he needs to create it.
He needs this prop in order to maintain the will-they-won't-they energy on the show,
and that's why he blows up at the staff when they give him the wrong thing.
The old bit of information that is like Trump knew, Qatar knew that Iran was
going to shoot these missiles. That's the old bit of the roller coaster track. That's
going down. We need the track that leads upward and that is this insinuation that Iran is
going to continue attacking. And Alex understands, he played roller coaster tycoon. He knows how to build this thing.
And he can't keep going down.
They can't go on that down slope.
You need to bring it back up or else you're going to lose all of the momentum.
And that's really what I feel when I hear him in this instance as a non-drunk person
having this reaction.
I've got to get off air. Right, right.
He's saying something like that call packed a kick,
but he doesn't have a shoe that's a phone,
so it sounds pretty stupid.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah, so he does go to a special report kind of thing,
and then he comes back and he's bored.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, kind of dull
It's you're supposed to go away to get drunker and angrier So when you come back, you've really got something
If you just go away and then calm down now you feel kind of stupid because it's like well
I could have just stayed
Yeah
We either go away to get drunker and angrier or get your shit in order. And like, so you have information to report.
Right. Right. Right. Right. Um, and he doesn't either. And so it's just kind of like,
and, and I think that this, this, I resent a great deal kind of, I don't know. I don't know
if I resent it, but like it is a day that's important. It's a day that matters in the world
because you have the possibility of Iran continuing attacks
against the US.
It's reaching a point where the ball is just rolling in a way that has no breaks on it.
And Alex is just reading Twitter, just riffing on tweets, trying to keep the both sides of it going, that this
is fine and this is the end of the world at the same time.
It's just dull.
But-
Like, if you can just trap people in that state, you know, and you can, like it's turned
into an interesting thing to watch Alex go from being the person who's trying to trap
people in that state to being trapped in it himself.
It's just like you can see it.
You can see the paralysis and the inability
to even do anything.
Like he can't even do his own show.
Yeah.
But that is in contrast to like Alex having these
shining moments, like when he's like,
oh maybe Trump's got a demon in him.
There's definitely that.
That I think is his brain still working and still recognizing like we got to work the angles
We got to figure out what we can do that has the air of him being his own person as opposed to just
Being a Twitter recap show. Yeah, and I I just I don't know. I wish it was more of that
I wish it was more Trump's Trump might have a demon in him,
unless what did Nick Sartor say on Twitter?
Yeah, yeah, because it really is the only thing
that makes sense.
If you stick in reality, you're just gonna have to create
more unreality to cover the fact that the reality
that you wanted is complete bullshit.
So fucking, he's got a demon in him, done.
Move on, skip out, cut out the middle man.
He's got a demon in him, it's the, move on skip out cut out the middle man He's got a demon in him. It's the same team of the tech Tucker Carlson
You know should kick the shit out of you for revealing that he's in the CIA as real the CIA
Attacking demon that controls Trump now. Yep done. We've nailed it. We've nailed the whole thing
Yeah, yeah, so we'll be back to see how this demon possession progresses
Or see if Alex abandons that plotline entirely.
It would be nice. It would be nice to keep it.
What if, holy shit, I just got it.
God was trying to get Alex to go to Gene Hackman to save his soul and exercise the demon that was within Gene Hackman. Okay. Before Gene Hackman died, and when Gene Hackman dies a natural death without exercising the
demon, the demon is unleashed and goes to Trump.
Absolutely.
So not only was Alex chosen by God to save the entire world through saving Gene Hackman,
by doing that, he has destroyed- By not doing that.
By not doing that, he has destroyed everything that he was supposed to create.
Yes, by not going to Gene Hackman like God commanded him to. This demon has run loose.
It is out there, and he's gotten into Trump, and is now going to cause World War III, a nuclear war, and it's Alex's fucking fault.
Do you know what's crazy? Of all the things that we have talked about because of Alex?
Saying that they are biblical this one this tracks with old-time. God. This is all time. God's style
This is his that's got his shit all over. There's an irony. Yeah, exactly. He loves that shit
Yeah, it's your fault, but you didn't even know it was gonna be your fault and now how do you feel dumb dumb?
Should have listened should have listened. I'm God.. Yeah I gave you 200 fucking dreams about Gene Hackman. That's so many! Too many. I didn't even need to do it
Yeah, I could have just given you one loud one. I tried to make it obvious
I've been telling you to wake up at 2 15
So we'll see how this develops. Yeah, but until then we have a website. Indeed we do it's knowledgefight.com. Yep
We'll be back but until then I'm Neo. I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am the mysterious
professor.
Woo yeah woo yeah woo!
And now here comes the sex robots.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
I love you.