Knowledge Fight - #1059: June 24, 2025

Episode Date: July 25, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan bear witness to Alex's continued descent into explicit antisemitic content, including some esoteric nonsense about the Star of David and a creepy attempt to pick a ...fight with Laura Loomer.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 N-n-n-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight! Dan and Jordan, I am sweating! N-n-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight! It's time to pray! I have great respect for knowledge fight! Knowledge fight! I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys!
Starting point is 00:00:16 Knowledge fight! Knowledge fight! Knowledge fight! Knowledge fight! Knowledge fight! Knowledge fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Knowledge fight. I need, I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy and, stop it. Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm Andy and I'm a fan of Andy and Kansas.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Jordan. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for ya. What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today, I'm gonna say, is actually a fork in the road. A fork in the road? No, that's the wrong metaphor.
Starting point is 00:01:18 It's two-pronged. Okay. The first is, I forgot this person's name, but they'll know who they are. Okay forwarded me an email After our last episode I talked about how I was sad that I didn't have a switch to yes Yes, because I wanted to play Donkey Kong right and someone Messaged an offer to sell me one at retail value did because they had somehow had another one magic and it was such a sweet offer you know and the message was about you know like the the feelings of like I related to what it's like to not be able to hang out with your buddy Donkey Kong totally and it made me realize like I do I need I need to I
Starting point is 00:02:00 need to play this Donkey Kong so it's a very nice offer, and that that I really appreciate it a lot, right? So that's one bright spot. Yes, and the second bright spot is I did not take this person up on that offer But I did get a switch right and been playing the shit out of Donkey Kong. Yeah, love it. Nailed it I'm wearing yellow top and brown pants because of Donkey Kong is the closest thing in my wardrobe that I felt was Donkey Kong Okay themed is that to record so you can get a little Donkey Kong into this episode. Oh, yeah, okay alright Whoa, I don't I don't know how I feel about that my chest That may be a little too aggressive. I'm gonna eat a banana. I am NOT a Donkey Kong I have gotten through a fair amount of this game, but I think there's still a lot to to uncover now
Starting point is 00:02:44 I've found Cranky Kong and Rambi Rhinoceros. Who's your favorite Kong? Dixie. Dixie is your favorite Kong? Yeah I think so. All right. What about you? Well I mean King obviously top of the list. Okay. Yeah. Well okay. All right. How does he fit into the family? That's actually a really good question. The original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong, right? But I mean you have to you have to expect that because of the Kong moniker They are somehow related to King Kong, right? Mm-hmm. They're giant apes. Yeah the Kong It's got to be King Kong. So is King Kong the progenitor? Is he the oldest? I think it must be or at least like he's an uncle or something. He's you know, like he's is King Kong the progenitor? Is he the oldest of the Kongs? I think it must be, or at least like,
Starting point is 00:03:26 he's an uncle or something. You know, like he's in the mix. Right. Somewhere in their lineage. Right, right, right. Yeah, I don't know. I know a lot of their familial relations. You know, I know how their family tree works,
Starting point is 00:03:37 but I don't, cause I don't think Nintendo owns King Kong. Okay, so. So I don't know if he can legally be a part of the family. So he's brought over from Skull Island to the United States. Early, early, what? Early 10s, early 20s, somewhere around there. Put on display climbs the tower, grabs the girl, et cetera, et cetera. Now, are we saying that the girl and the Kong and now we have multiple Kongs? Is that what we're saying here? You mean like terms of like...
Starting point is 00:04:08 Did they get married? Right. Yeah. That's what I was thinking you were getting at. Yeah, sure. Why not? I don't know. And that's how we get Donkey Kong who becomes Cranky Kong. No, I don't know. Who's your favorite Donkey Kong in the canonical, the Donkey Kong franchise? I will tell you this. I think you don't know. My memory, no, my favorite is Diddy. And my memory of why is fairly simple.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Playing Donkey Kong Country, I would always wind up losing Diddy and he would go, and then you jump on the box and Diddy would Reappear you throw a barrel or whatever you jump on a box to get rambi or espresso fair enough fair enough for a guard So you throw a barrel and then? Without skipping a beat he does a little flip gets right back behind you I don't know why that I always appreciated that a great deal. He's loyal. Yeah, he's having a great time ready to go It was just like ah no big deal. I fell on those spikes Yeah, I would always play it with my brother
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah, and I was always forced to be Donkey Kong because I was a big boy I was a thick thick young boy sure and he was more of a smaller agile cool sure I as he was more of a diddy He was a diddy and you were a cooler because he's the young guy I mean, you know, it was a nice meal. You have a hat you are cooler. Yeah Yeah, and so I always had that I always felt forced to be donkey But then I kind of made peace with now you wear it as a badge of pride Yeah But then the second game came along and we were introduced to Dixie and she could do a propeller with her hair
Starting point is 00:05:42 That is pretty cool. She could float a little bit bit Yeah, she way too cool for for all of it, but I am enjoying the hell out of Donkey Kong bonanza and What it it's such a good thing to be playing while I listen to info wars? Yeah, cuz you're just punching as you smash and shit. Yeah. Yeah, you're just breaking walls down Yeah, you're just breaking walls down It's very cathartic in that that setting place so what about you what's your bread my bright spot Tyler creators that Tyler the creators got a new album. Okay, great He's someone who has a very interesting career trajectory. He does he does a very strange one Yeah, I feel he's someone who I don't really know a ton about yeah
Starting point is 00:06:28 But I feel like he went from like horror core kind of stuff. Yep, too much more artistic much more high Aspirational yeah, I believe it started with odd future wolfgang kill them all Which was him and Earl Sweatshirt and those cats. And then he did Goblin, which had that one song that everybody was like, ah, he's so scary, you know, that kind of thing. And then he did that for a while and everybody was kind of like, ah, that's kind of boring.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Then he came out and started doing all kinds of different stuff. And everybody's had a great time since then. Interesting. What's the new album like? What genre, what would you describe it as? So he had a couple, so few albums back was more of an R&B album. A few albums after that was more of a hip hop album. The last one I think was more of a rap album. I think this one's more like a just general hip hop vibe kind of thing. More hooks I think this one's more like a just general hip hop-y vibe kind of thing. More hooks, there are hooks. You like a hook?
Starting point is 00:07:29 There's some hooks. Great. I like that song, What the Hook Gon' Be. What is the hook going to be? Murphy Lee from the St. Lunatics. I ask because he's a really interesting type of pop culture presence. That you say Tyler the Creator has a new album out.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And I don't really know what to expect that is going to be. That's interesting. I think that's a really cool thing. I think I would take that as a compliment if I was him. Yeah, it's kind of, I feel the same way about like when Andre 3000 would put out an album. It's like, I don't know exactly what this is going to sound like. Yeah, and then it turned into a flute. Then it turned into a flute album, so. That doesn't always go the right way.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And if you're gonna do a flute album, you gotta call Jethro Tull. You do have to. You gotta call Ian Anderson and get it done. Yeah. Well, I'm glad you're enjoying that album. Yeah, it's good. So today we have something not as enjoyable, but maybe it is a horror core anyway.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Nice, nice. And that is June 24th, 2025 of Alex's show. As we watch a disintegration happen, basically throughout this entire timeframe, he's killed Gene Hackman, which unleashed a demon that might be possessing Donald Trump. The United States is in a civil war. The world is maybe in a civil war. Donald Trump seems to be going back and forth from wanting regime change in Iran. It's very confusing. But we may have stumbled upon our saving grace, which is that Donald Trump is no longer in control of Donald Trump. It's possible that there's a walk-in. Right?
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah. We've got a walk-in situation. Well, we don't know for sure. We don't know for sure yet, but this changes everything. He's been dealing with the flesh quite a bit, and that is a way that demons can get inside you. Everybody knows this. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:23 So we have this possibility. Yeah. And we'll see what kind of horrific anti-Semitic garbage we see Everybody knows this. Right. So we have this possibility. Yeah. And we'll see what kind of horrific anti-Semitic garbage we see on this episode. Great. Good news. Good news. Spoiler alert and warning. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:09:33 But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Bad Bob, thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, my wife and I communicate by sending secret messages through this show, and this
Starting point is 00:09:44 is a birthday message to say, happy birthday. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And Bad Tad the Rad Lad. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much, too. Pumpkin
Starting point is 00:10:00 Face McSlutpants from your best friend will be better tomorrow. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat I'm a policy wonk Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jar-jar banks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little kitty, baby I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yes, thank you very much. So before we get going on this garbage ass episode of Alex's show, I do have an out of context drop. All right. And it made me very sad. Well, Dan, you're the only reason we're on air. We are literally in a toe to toe battle and I want to keep fighting and it means so much to me It means everything. I'm the most important thing to me is staying in the fight literally. So when you do that you are Everything god bless you brother. Thank you. You're welcome Wow
Starting point is 00:10:53 That would be that is identical to a joker to Batman speech. That is To do this dance forever. This is what I want. This is what I really want I don't want to win or to lose. I want to fight. Yeah It's it's a it's a it's a weird thing to hear in a false context Yeah, in reality, there was a caller named Dan who had bought one of the products But it's very different very different and yet you can edit it out of context. This is great This could become his thing that he edits out of context to predict that he was always going to be fighting you. Chase is going to put this into a drop. It makes perfect sense.
Starting point is 00:11:32 So we start off the episode on the 24th. And I will say that most of this episode is Alex whining about how everyone is saying that he's fake Maga. Everybody's so mean to him. Because he was against the idea of striking Iran. Right. He's like, oh, now I'm an imposter. And he's just mad. I don't like the Mullahs, they're a dictatorship.
Starting point is 00:11:54 My goodness gracious. I want a total moratorium on all Muslim integration. I want to deport all the ones that are illegally. Every single one of them. Boy I'm a known Islam a foe, just like I'm scared of rattlesnakes and black widow spiders. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Wait, you know you got those phobias for a reason. Wait. And but oh, the Microsoft CIA the And but, oh, the Microsoft CIA massage group will be getting too later. They say I work for the Ayatollah. Of rock and roller, not Chris Jericho, the
Starting point is 00:12:40 red blooded very different 31 years on air. I'm not from the family that raised Colonel Travis's son. I'm not from the family that literally wrote the Constitution and started the whole war in a long-term 10-year project under Andrew Jackson Both sides of my family weren't on the Mayflower I'm not related to the inventor of the stock exchange Lord Gresham Wait, of course, I'm all that and more are you get more Americana, but I'm an Iranian spy These people are
Starting point is 00:13:11 Israeli sock puppets is their technical name is what the Israelis come and I don't want to see Israel destroyed I don't hate Israel Just like I might like my neighbor. He's a friendly God go for barbecue. I don't want him to come over and say hey, buddy I'm gonna binge your wife over and fuck her in the ass in front of you. Oh sure Wow That seems aggressive You don't run my line Run my country and Israel people are sick of Netanyahu and they're sick of your games And so I don't like the Moolahs and I don't like you either
Starting point is 00:13:43 Talk about your leadership sure it's like the And so I don't like the Moolahs and I don't like you either. Talk about your leadership. It's like another gross analogy. You're out in some, you know, parking lot and you see some rotten hamburger meat on the ground with maggots in it. And then you see, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:14:02 used tampon on the ground. And somebody's like, which one would you like to eat? How about neither? Excuse the gross analogy, but that's what this comes down to. And you've got, I ran to the rotten hamburger with Magus in it, and then you know what Netanyahu has.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yep, a used tampon that's been up Satan's ass. All right, I'm gonna stop right there is that where he puts tampons you forget me I'm gonna really angry right now Lord I apologize family audience I'm just so real I can't help it seems real seems very real how about that gross how about that That's gross. How about that? That's fucking gross. How about that? That whole clip. How about that?
Starting point is 00:14:48 How about it? How about that clip? Yep. So Alex referenced a Microsoft CIA report, and that'll come up later. But that was basically about people using false flag narratives in order to disseminate Russian and Iranian state-backed media narratives. And Alex isn't involved in that report at all. He's not even mentioned.
Starting point is 00:15:16 But he's got so mad about this. He's just like, fucking, these people saying I'm fake MAGA. Lord Gresham, that's American. I mean, the laundry list of things that he thinks are supposed to be Americana bona fides. It's just white capitalist. Yeah. I mean, I don't even think I want most of those things involved in America. Sure. But the lineage is just white capitalist. It's not Americana Yeah, I don't suck market Americana if you're talking about a 10-year plan under Andrew Jackson There are only so many plans
Starting point is 00:15:53 Andrew Jackson had and there are only so many 10-year periods where he would have power to have plans underneath them They weren't good plan. None of those were good plans. They were white as hell. They were very white Yeah, and I think that's the bone a few days that Alex is None of those were good plans. They were white as hell though. They were very white plans. And I think that's the bone of few days that Alex is responding. I think there's a part of it that's like, I'm so white. I am a member of the people who finished off
Starting point is 00:16:16 the Native American genocide. You owe the West to me. Yeah. And it's interesting because this protestation that he's making is silly. But it is based on him having a point. I guess I don't disagree with which is we shouldn't go to war with Iran So like it's very strange that he's getting heat and blow back From people online. Yeah, because of his opposition to war with Iran Yeah, and he's responding in this way that is disgusting and is like, you guys
Starting point is 00:16:46 don't think I hate Muslims? You think I don't hate Muslims? I do. I mean, I absolutely do. I am so white and scared. What I immediately thought of, and I don't know why this happened. I think it was, I think it had something to do with him being like, and that's because you're afraid of rattlesnakes and spiders for a reason. But I immediately had like a daytime talk show 90s kind of Sally J Raphael kind of situation. And they're like, we're dealing with phobias today. And I don't know if you do you remember the one where they had a lady get into a bathtub filled with spiders? No, definitely not.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Okay, well they were trying to they were doing immersion therapy. Are you sure this wasn't an episode of Fear of fear factor could have been a dream I had but the point is I just Immediately had a vision of Alex getting into a bathtub which about with a bunch of Muslims and I think he would be fine I don't think there's anything to be scared at counterpoint We've already seen him freak out about women at a pool supply That's fair, but he wasn't forced to get into a bathtub with them I think my shop is pretty close to bathtub. Really close to bathtub.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. Almost. Both involve water. Yeah. So we get to talking a little bit about this report. Sure. This Microsoft CIA report. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You people, it's like it's high school or junior high and you're at the cool table and you look at the OGs who are absolute thoroughbreds of this fight been through hell to do this? And you say oh those are the imposters because the israeli bots said so Next you're going to tell me two men can have a baby and there's no x and y chromosomes I am so i'll come back. Actually i'll go to the trump clips here in just a moment but Steve bannon imprisoned for defending with president one of his top advisors Demonized MTG most attacked in Congress being the president says I think this is a bad idea. Oh, she's a traitor Tucker Carlson
Starting point is 00:18:39 For over 15 years woke up to the neocon said he was wrong supporting the wars, blown up, flying out of Pakistan and Afghanistan, covering the first month of the war in Afghanistan, a war reporter, they put a bomb on the plane, blows out the bulkhead, kills a bunch of people, they crash land on the edge of the ocean, he almost dies, you never heard about that because he doesn't talk about it. Oh, but he's a wimp. What's he know? What's he ever been around? He just spent years the Middle East in war zones when he's 17 was sent down to live with the Contras and fight the communist
Starting point is 00:19:13 by CIA high level dad. Oh, what's he know? He was just in the jungle in battles when he was 17. Guess you didn't know that. And then Alex Jones, I mean, who's this guy? He just walked into town. We don't know anything about this guy except he's an Iranian spy. Pathetic, disgusting talking points chirped out, chirped out by Microsoft and Netanyahu. I'm going to get to the proof of that coming up. Those are the people you don't listen to. Those are the people that are just taking money to be imposters. Notice Iranian and Russian imposters have taken over MAGA.
Starting point is 00:19:56 They say me and others. And now, and then they use bots and MAGA imposters to try to take it over and turn the Trump movement Which is the populist American forefront? He's riding the wave of that the Silver Surfer of the Golden Surfer Hmm, and they try to transmute all that and turn it into now Netanyahu and Liz Cheney are MAGA So Alex really should Tucker should kick his ass. Yeah. This is not like if any of this is true like this is really not what we need to be out there in the public if you're Tucker. Yeah absolutely not. Because his behavior in the past few years looks really fucking shady if he is a lifelong CIA
Starting point is 00:20:41 agent and asset who was a child soldier with the Contras. This is the thing I think that happens with America and war stuff is that it blinds us to them being people. Once you become soldiers in a war situation, it's like, I am a soldier. It blinds you to being a person. When somebody like Alex goes like, when he was a teenager, he was in the jungle fighting and he thinks like, look, that's how strong he is. But what he's telling me is that they have psychologically traumatized this poor human being and now
Starting point is 00:21:14 have unleashed him upon the rest of us. None of what he believes is real. He's an absolute psychopath. This is terrifying. Yeah. Yeah. If he was 17 fighting in the jungles With the Contras then he's like you it's not day one stuff. No, that's crazy Right and there's stuff that predates that you know, like there's stuff that leads up to that that is like this person Cannot possibly have had a healthy childhood. No, they are okay or or how about this have we? Let's go back further. Is this a last starfighter situation was Tucker Carlson So good at playing a video game about fighting the Contra in the jungle No, because he got this position as a 17 year old through his high-level CIA dad. Yeah, that doesn't help Yeah, no, this is this is someone who has been
Starting point is 00:22:07 MKUltra. Why haven't you why haven't you like dealt with the relationship between you and your father if he puts you in there's no way you can deal with that. Man I would be pissed. There's no way. Yeah that's crazy. Get out of my life man. So this stuff that Alex is talking about it all goes back to a report that was put out By the Network Contagion Research Institute titled false flags and fake MAGA how foreign and inauthentic networks use fake speech to destabilize the right from within Naturally with a name like that you could see how Alex would take that personally, but this report isn't about him It's not it doesn't involve him at all
Starting point is 00:22:43 It was published on June 18th, but from the report, quote, our analysis indicates that recent high profile cases, including Uvalde, Crocus City Hall, October 7th, the Trump shooting and other domestic attacks triggered an immediate surge in online false flag discourse, emerging within minutes of initial reports and aimed at recasting the events as evidence of hidden conspiratorial plots, thereby obscuring the true motives and perpetrators. In the days following these crimes, Kremlin-affiliated propagandists and Iranian state-linked media were able to rapidly inject narratives that were taken up by MAGA-imposter influencers who then injected them into MAGA-branded spaces, often within minutes of breaking news. In the report, they specifically call out Nick Fuentes, Jake Shields, and Jackson Hinkle,
Starting point is 00:23:30 but they don't point out the fact that all of these people have been on Infowars, which would have been... I mean, if Alex, if he wants to take this personally, that would be the angle to do. He's getting defensive about this and saying it's about himself, Tucker and Bannon, but this report doesn't mention them at all, which seems weird. He seems to be throwing himself into this for no reason. Yeah. I mean, I guess in a way it implicates all of them. You know, it is just essentially like everybody now knows you can throw a grenade into the right-wing Twitter sphere and Lord knows what's gonna happen
Starting point is 00:24:06 You know it's calling out a game. Yeah that Alex definitely profits off of yeah Yeah, so you could kind of see why he would be interested if anything I would be angrier that they have turned it into a a like streamlined technically sound project filter or like injecting bullshit into America is is it like there's teams of people who do it within minutes they have it done they've got all this pre worked
Starting point is 00:24:33 out they've got scripts written so this will happen across hundreds of bot accounts at the same time like it shouldn't be that easy yeah and if you're Alex you probably also like thinking the fact that I'm not in this report Makes me seem less relevant right right there is of course. I don't have as much reach as like Nick Fuentes right There's the personal element of pride yeah So yeah, maybe you would lie and say that you're in the report because it's it's almost like a mark of pride I am important enough to be in here, okay Yeah, yeah getting getting flack means you're over the target, right?
Starting point is 00:25:07 And if you're not getting flack, then you have to pretend that you're getting flack. Otherwise, you are really not relevant. Oh, yep so this is one of the major pieces of Discussion on the show and another one is Alex being really mad that people are saying that Trump works for Qatar. Oh yeah, they're now saying Trump's in bed with Qatar. That trope that Qatar has any propaganda or power. We have a giant base there. Totally in a US government's hip pocket. And then now Trump doesn't want a war.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And so now he, he's a traitor. Trump is a MAGA imposter. Put it back up. Trump Trump Netanyahu now turns. That's all Netanyahu talking points. And you see that everywhere. You see it everywhere. Emily Bleebler or whatever name is that it's all the same.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Israel. Do not drop those bombs. If you do, it's a major violation. Bring your pilots home now. Donald John Trump, president of the United States. Some people say that Trump is in bed with Qatar because he very obviously is. Their government gave him a plane worth about $400 million a couple months back around the time when Trump's son Eric announced a new Trump International Golf Club was in development
Starting point is 00:26:19 near Doha. Weird. His business interests are inextricable from his foreign policy actions, and that's not even taking into account the fact that his attorney general, Pam Bondi, used to be a registered lobbyist for Qatar at a firm that she used to work at, Ballard Partners. That firm is run by Brian Ballard, who is a lobbyist for the Trump Organization in Florida from 2013 to 2016 and a top fundraiser for Trump's campaigns. Seems like if this were Biden, Alex would probably say that it had been declassified
Starting point is 00:26:47 and proven and admitted in the congressional record that Trump was on the Qatari payroll. This is plenty of evidence for his standards. Yeah, I mean, one of the great things about this, right, is like back in the day, I remember people having to have arguments about, oh, is this corrupt or is this like, oh, and Citizens United is opening the door for corrupt. This is the single most for sale the government's ever been. You can't argue with it. Shit is on the block. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Yep. No, no conversation. When Alex says America is open for business, he means that in a- Oh, baby. Yeah. You also might notice that Alex is citing someone that he called Emily Bleebler. Yes, who is Emily Bleebler? It's actually a person named Emily Schrader who's an Israeli American journalist.
Starting point is 00:27:32 She reply tweeted to Trump saying that Israel needs to not bomb anymore saying, quote, someone is in bed with Qatar, which is what Alex is yelling about. He's yelling about tweets. Yeah. I mean, you can't, I get it. I totally get the instincts to be like, this is the real world. So we should be like, Hey, you can't do that. But come on, buddy.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It's we're way past that. He's in bed with, yeah, obviously he's in bed with like 50 guys right now. Right. Yeah. Well, but there's like, you know, it seems stupid to just yell about a tweet. I agree. Yeah. I agree wholeheartedly.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And I think that that's kind of what all of this is. The show's just basically him getting mad about Twitter. And now the Israeli CIA, Stay Behind Network, Microsoft, Bot Farms, and fake influencers that are following the talking points are now saying Trump is a MAGA imposter, not just Tucker Carlson, not just D-Bannon, not just MTG, not just Alex Jones. No, Trump himself, I just showed it, it's everywhere now. He works for Qatar as if Qatar has any real propaganda push. It's a minion of the United States, a giant military base.
Starting point is 00:28:43 What the hell does that mean? So when Alex says I showed you it's everywhere He's talking about that tweet our podcast has basically just become watching the effects of Twitter addiction manifest in an old man It is a very strange like sociological experiment. Yeah, we're This used to be about You know far-right tradition of the John Birch Society legacy, all of this intellectual conspiracy propaganda shit. And now it's just a cautionary tale about thinking the internet's real.
Starting point is 00:29:18 You know, it is interesting because you read studies on it and there's a lot of self reporting, there's a lot of like looking at internet stuff, there's a lot of conversation, there's a lot of interviews, there's a lot of this, but we are getting a very specific portrait of this phenomenon, which I think has affected everybody, right? To some degree. To some degree. There is absolutely somebody in your life who has done this. Yeah, whether or not you're experiencing like the kind of things that Alex is clearly struggling with. Yeah, yeah. You've dealt with the ripple effects of someone else. Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:54 It's been foist upon your life. Yeah, yeah, and it is consuming. It is consuming, which is what I think everybody responds to is like if you're if somebody is is saying some bullshit, you go, you're saying some bullshit, but this consumes you. And then everything is about this. Yeah. There's such a noted difference to between like earlier time Alex and this like, back in the day, he would like go and bullhorn people and like be sitting at an editing dock and like really trying to make something. I don't see any evidence of anything other than looking at Twitter.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I mean he needs an intervention. Like genuinely. I believe that this is an addictive situation. The level of an intervention. Well, but that's the thing is like before there was the booze. Sure. And then now it's this right? I think booze is better. Absolutely booze is better. We're all gonna die and our bodies are going to disintegrate someday
Starting point is 00:30:52 I would rather go out one way than fucking Twitter addiction I hate to say that alcoholism is less dorky than Twitter addiction, but it kind of is It's really nerd shit. Come on, step up. Yeah, come on. So Alex is mad at these people who are saying that he's fake MAGA and that Benjamin Netanyahu represents the real MAGA. And he seems to be particularly mad at Jewish voices.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Wild, how that happens to him. Yeah. And now Mark Levin is attacking President Trump. Of course he is. He didn't support Trump early on. Ben Shapiro didn't support him. No, no, they are the imposters. Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, they've always been Neocon bootlickers, anti-American trash. They're not Americans. They're globalists. They're power brokers. They're le-cud-nicks. And they think you're stupid.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Alex isn't really being subtle here at all, and any unbiased observer should be able to see the kind of slide that This shows content is on this isn't about Levin or Shapiro having political positions that Alex disagrees with it's about them being two Very high-profile Jewish men in the conservative media space This kind of shit isn't being directed at people like Charlie Kirk when he has a disagreement with Trump over Something or Candace Owens. This is very much dependent on them being Jewish men. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It feels like the... Okay. It feels like there has not been any kind of explicit agreement with everybody, but everybody has dipped their toe in here or there until the point where I think this region knows where the wind is blowing. To the point where- When you say region, you mean like right-wing media. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Right-wing media. That is like, okay, this is where it's going. Whether we believe in this, whether we're as racist as we're going to sound right now, doesn't matter because this is where the wind is blowing, this is where the money's going to be. Yeah, and I think that one thing that's really illuminating is, you know, years ago when Alex's texts got revealed, one of the exchanges that was in there was between him and Millie Weaver. Sure.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And she was warning him after he had had Nick Fuentes on the show the first time that she had hung out with Nick and his fans and they were actually Nazis. Yeah. And he should not hang out with them. Right. And that's great. But the other part of what she was telling him
Starting point is 00:33:36 was that like, these are young people. They don't even buy your supplements. Yeah. Like this isn't even going to raise sales for you. So why are you trying to cater to this audience? Yeah. And I think that that mathematics has changed. Yeah, that maybe a lot of those people who were buying the supplements died from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated. Maybe a
Starting point is 00:33:57 lot of that market is now they have to chase it. And online Twitter would lead you to believe, oh, well, we got to go Nazi. These are the people who are getting big numbers. Exactly. Yeah. And that report that Alex is complaining about kind of illustrates that. Nick Fuentes is named in that.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Alex isn't. Everybody's doing a pivot to Nazi. You know, it's, yeah. Yep. It happens. These fucks are for sure. Yeah. So Alex, Alex feels like he's been
Starting point is 00:34:26 Shit on a little bit sure pissed on a little bit. Sure people saying he's false. He's fake maga Yeah, but he's not he's not he's the best in the business the whole business. Yeah, he's the Tom Brady of this shit That's why they get the Rockefeller Foundation documents and others they go How does this guy know our plans who does he work work for? When the Democrats sued me for years and discovery and sued my employees and would offer money, they'd say in the depositions, who does he work for? Who gives him the talking points? Who's his boss? They go, It's him. They post my dad. They go, Who creates the Jones show and the things he says? And how does he say the things he says? You know, so it's all in his
Starting point is 00:35:02 head. That's quote CNN. David, Dr. David Jones, Alex Jones, his father says there is a plan. There is a boss and it's Alex and it's in his head. So see the bad guys know I'm on them. Remember the headline seven years ago, the new chief of staff's main job is keeping Trump away from Alex Jones. Why would that be? Sir, you have three board members of George Soros group in your White House. No, I don't really. You didn't know about Fiona Hill.
Starting point is 00:35:37 You didn't know about bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep because they were scared of repercussions. They had 60 minutes programs with Fiona Hill crying in Congress, but I was mean to her No one was willing to go after him And I'll go after the globalist Soros deep state with around Trump and I'll go after the kudnicks and Benjamin Yet, yahoo and I'll get if they ever got Russians around him for real. I'll go after them
Starting point is 00:36:04 What about Elon the chai comms are all over the Democrats and all over some of the Republicans Mitch McConnell? yahoo and i'll get it if they ever got russians around him for real i'll go after them without a lot the chai comes are all of the democrats and all over some of the republicans mich McConnell i'd just tell the truth it's so easy the truth and integrity are not my north star they are my prime directive it's all i do i couldn't shut up and stop telling the truth if i had a gun to my head and that's why you're told i'm the imposter i'm inauthentic i'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud.
Starting point is 00:36:30 I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the fraud. I'm the best. I'm
Starting point is 00:37:32 the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the quarterback in the world. You're like the person can't walk or in a wheelchair. Well, no, no, that's the best football player on planet. And just all this mad dogging. Those are Israeli bots. Those are Microsoft bots. Know what they are. And these idiots will get us all killed. This is really fucking sad because what's actually going on here is that Alex is yelling on his show about how people on Twitter don't respect him enough. That's literally what this is.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yeah, they don't respect my credibility and my career and what I've done. I'm Tom Brady. This is just a man bleeding out his insecurity on camera. And I honestly felt a little embarrassed watching it. Like, if you are Alex Jones, you should not feel this desperate to be validated. You are Alex Jones. You are. You were Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I mean, look, I don't know about. Alex seems to think that, like, continuity isn't real in life. Yesterday doesn't relate to today. That's fair. But I do. I believe that the past led to the present. And so he is still physically the person who was Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Fair enough. You don't need to be like this sad that people on Twitter are mean. You snuck into Bohemian Grove asshole. Here's the thing. Twitter are mean. You snuck into Bohemian Grove, asshole! Here's the thing. Here's the thing about the bots, right? Because this is a problem for people, I think, who talk about bots. If you say that this coverage that is negative is bots, then you must also accept that sometimes the coverage when it's positive is bots. Meaning, it doesn't matter anymore either way because you'll never know.
Starting point is 00:39:11 You can't know whether the feedback you're receiving is real. Sure. Yeah. And I think that the, I don't want to tip all of my cards too much, but I don't really think that this network contagion research institute report is good. I don't think that it's... I read it, it's not very... I don't agree with it.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I'm a little dubious of it. But when it was talking about bots, it's talking about like Nick Fuentes would post something about some attack being a false flag. And then tons and tons of replies would just be spam emojis of like 100 or whatever. They're saying this is indicative of bot kind of behavior. And I'm not sure if that's 100% true, but it definitely could be.
Starting point is 00:39:57 I don't know. Some is, some isn't. It's like, it's not the dead internet theory, it's the garbage internet theory. It's all garbage. Yeah, it's not the dead internet theory, it's the garbage internet theory. It's all- It doesn't matter. It's all garbage, yeah, it's just there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It could be an authentic or it could be authentic, but what it means is identical and that's nothing. You can't know and that robs it of meaning. Yeah. So, that is to say that like, I'm not sure, when Alex is talking about bots, yeah He's not even talking about what this article or the report is talking about right? So I don't even know how to assess it Right. No, I don't mean it in like in the way that he's talking about bots being real
Starting point is 00:40:36 I mean in the way that he's feeling about it in that negative coverage is all coming from false things Yeah, but if you believe that then you also have to believe that positive coverage coming from false things. Yeah. But if you believe that, then you also have to believe that positive coverage comes from false things, you know? Yeah. Like it has to work both ways or it doesn't work. I think he doesn't really care. He's just complaining because it doesn't, it's not going in the direction he wants.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Exactly. That's really what the complaint is about. It is. It's not about bots. I want people to like me. And respect me. I broke into Bohemian Grove, assholes. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:41:04 So all that being said, I'm pretty sure that we are literally the only people who covered Alex's dad's deposition absolutely when he said that CNN talked about it there's no other conclusion I can come up with then he thinks we're CNN yep because I had to get that deposition that wasn't like I didn't cover CNN covering it we're the only people who cover depositions period. A bunch of those. Yeah. They did not get any coverage outside of us.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Inexplicably. Because why would they? Inexplicably. Depositions are our thing. Yeah, I think, I think like maybe the Kit Daniels one got some press because he cried. Yeah. I think the Paul Joseph Watson one got some press because he said that Alex lied about Sandy Hook sure I think that maybe the Owen Shroyer did because he said he was a puppet right maybe
Starting point is 00:41:52 But none of them not Alex's dad more than between 30 seconds and three minutes of like video coverage or a Clip or something from there. It is taking one small thing out of context and then writing bullshit. You know? We're the only people who would actually listen. Yeah. So that seems weird. Yeah. It does seem weird. So Alex, a lot of his targeting is at Marc Levin on this episode. And so he complains about Marc Levin a bit here. Let's go back to what Levin's saying. Oh, Trump doesn't want regime change. So the sleeper cells are set to hit us any minute.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Let's put that Mark Levin tweet back up, please. The Iranian terrorist embeds are here and have been here. Eleven arrested by ICE. They're here because Biden and the Democrats invited them in with open borders. We said so at the time. Quattar Olson took Carlson's now works for Qatar. Quattar Olson and his ilk will blame patriotic. I would give up on that one. And our military. Let that go. the Oh, the Iranians are going to hit us and Tucker Carlson is going to say it's a false flag. That's funny, Mark.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I'm the one saying that. Why don't you just say my name? Oh, damn. Oh, damn. So you might notice that Alex is just complaining about something someone tweeted. Yep. Yep. Twitter complaints and Alex's feelings are pretty much this entire show at this point. Feels like it. You might also notice that Alex is doing a mocking voice when he reads that Mark Levin tweet, but it's exactly the
Starting point is 00:43:59 same stuff Alex says. He spent so much time on his show saying that Iranian sleeper cells have infiltrated the country, but now that Mark Levin is saying it, it's somehow stupid and you got to do this cartoon voice? Yep. The key to understanding this is that Alex doesn't care about the what. He just cares about the why. He isn't worried about Iranian sleeper cells being in the United States. He just pretends it's a huge issue when he needs to use it as an excuse to push a narrative that he wants to sell. The reason that Alex is mad is because Levin is doing the same thing. Levin favors regime change war with Iran, so he's trying to present a scary image of
Starting point is 00:44:34 what the price of not carrying out that war would be. He's trying to create the impression that we need to go to war with Iran because if we don't, they'll activate these sleeper cells. For Alex, the Iranian sleeper cell storyline is an anti-immigration talking point. He wants to create a scary image of terrorist sleeper cells invading the country because he wants the audience to be suspicious that any immigrant might be a member of one of these cells and therefore should be deported. Both of these dudes are using the same means to pursue a different end, but they're also
Starting point is 00:45:04 dishonest actors and they don't really care about alleged sleeper cells. Levin wants to use the fear he can create around this issue to justify going to war, whereas Alex wants to use the fear he can create around it to justify white nationalist immigration policies. Alex doesn't want the fear that he's built around this subject to be redirected in a different direction, so he has a need to attack Levin. But because he does no preparation and knows the audience that he's talking to is stupid, he ends up mocking Levin on the show about the point the two should agree on.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Both of their propaganda campaigns rely on believing that these sleeper cells exist and they are an imminent threat, so this response that he's doing seems counterproductive And it's just really good that anybody listening to his show and taking it seriously They have to be gone by now. Yeah, so he can just do this. Yeah, I mean it is it is like two men like Arguing over a fire hose like oh no point at this direction no point at this direction no point at this direction It's like I don't know well It's like they but the hose they're like I want to spray this dog with it The other person's like I want to spray this kid with it I want to annoy someone and then jeopardize someone's safety this way or this way yeah
Starting point is 00:46:19 It's fucked up. Yeah, so it's nothing compared to what comes next. Okay. Alex does a long, long act out of Mark Levin, hypnotizing his audience. Oh, boy. And those very same bots are now attacking Trump directly and calling him Trump directly and calling him Kutrump, Quattar Trump. Boo! Carlson or Tucker. How would you combine Trump and Qatar? Qua- Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Quart-twump? Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Qua- Quattarump? Quattari Trump? Nailed it. Quattar Trump?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Good. You'll be hearing that soon Will you? Trump is an imposter Trump is not real Trump is not MAGA Trump is not good then shop hero is MAGA Mark Lovin is MAGA Benjamin and Yahoo is MAGA is the watch. Watch the watch as we swing the watch back and forth. Go to sleep. Let me
Starting point is 00:47:53 hypnotize you. You love all the wars. There's WMD is in Iraq. Lala Lie Pack doesn't have any power. If you question anything the Israeli leaders do, you're going to hell. Jesus said always do what the Pharisees say. Watch the watch, watch the watch, watch the watch. There you go. You're getting sleepier and sleepier and sleepier.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yes, Mark Levin supported the lockdowns and forced injection. Yes, Ben Shapiro did. Yes, yes, yes, yes, they hated Trump. Yes, Ben Shapiro did. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. They hated Trump. Yes, they were never Trumpers. But now now they will tell you who the good people are. They will tell you who you can trust. They will tell you who you have to listen to. Good. Good. Who is my guy? I don't know. Who am I? Oh, or we're adding another character. Benjamin Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro and me, Mark Levin. Say it with me now slowly. Trump is an imposter. Trump is the imposter.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Is this a new character? It's good scene work. That's insane. Yep. You would never be able to convince me that Alex didn't know that the idea that Jewish people hypnotize the public is a giant historical anti-Semitic trope. He's not unaware of that. This wasn't some big mystery back in 2019 when Infowars was criticizing Ilhan Omar for tweeting that Israel had hypnotized the world.
Starting point is 00:49:18 He understands this perfectly well. He knows what the fuck he's doing. You see this back and forth in the show's content over the last like weeks or so. Like one day it's profoundly anti-Semitic and then the next day it's back to him pretending that the last day didn't happen. He's engaging in these outbursts and then bring the temperature back to normal because he's trying to get the audience acclimated to this kind of content without scaring people off with Nazi salutes and swastikas. This is a marked departure in his content.
Starting point is 00:49:50 It's where the wind is blown. And that is only half of that impression. I'm not going to play the rest because it's more just hypnotizing. That's a long... Here's... Okay. Let me try and... Okay. Okay, let me try and Okay What this feels like is?
Starting point is 00:50:06 The modern version of being trapped at the breakfast table with a guy who writes letters to the editor Mmm, you know what I'm saying? Like this feels like in the morning. I've woken up. I'm trying to eat cereal Somebody opens the newspaper and it's just here you hear that crack, right? And then he goes. Oh So now they're gonna say this shit about you know and then and then starts drafting a letter I kind of feel like I'd rather be around that guy because you can't hit refresh on the newspaper absolutely you know like Absolutely, he has to have a second hobby No, that's I mean I was I was thinking I was thinking about it wistfully like remember when it would end at the letter The letter would be sent to the editor when it would end at the letter.
Starting point is 00:50:45 The letter would be sent to the editor, it would be printed in the newspaper maybe. There's something cathartic about like putting the stamp on the envelope and they can be like well, I can't possibly expect them to respond immediately. Now I can take a breath. I will see you guys next week. Yeah, but Twitter, it's just constantly refreshing. You suck! Okay, great. Okay, all right. It's just it constantly refreshes. Okay great. Okay, all right fucking immediate. Yep. Yep awful
Starting point is 00:51:07 But yeah, Alex is definitely taking a shift towards the neo-nazi It's undeniable. Yeah, like these things keep happening and I think that he's trying to signal very clearly that this is a choice that he's making And one of the things that I think is one of the signals is the choice that he comes in, the song he plays, coming back from break, after this really long hypnotism riff.
Starting point is 00:51:36 So we're witnessing just incredible developments right now, ladies and gentlemen. And I can't wait to get Nick Fuentes on in the next hour to get his take on all of this. Yeah. He's going to have noted Nazi anti-Semite fuck Nick Fuentes on and he's coming back in over no more Mr. Nice Guy. Yep. He's like, no, I'm going to be the guy that I've pretended that I wasn't, like, my whole
Starting point is 00:52:08 career. Yeah, I've said that the globalist, I didn't mean Jew, but fuck it, I do. I mean, now I'm literally calling prominent Jews globalists in a one-to-one, as everybody told me I was doing in the past. Yeah. And I think a little bit later we'll get some more indications that he knows exactly what he's doing. But he's not just mad at Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro. Sure. There are other Jewish people. Why not like Laura Loomer? Oh
Starting point is 00:52:30 He spends a long time Complaining about so I love the bots and the That bad Laura Loomer so I've never done anything to who's just mad dog Like I'm taking screenshots anybody Chris eyes at Trump and I'm giving it to him please please next time he goes see Trump don't worry I'm getting stuff to please take him what I'm saying right now please get sweetheart plus Steve Bannon had me do it and got it to Trump last Thursday I get him on the phone to cupcake if I want to order been invited to dinner up there. Didn't go. Because see, I'm not into the
Starting point is 00:53:07 pageantry like you. I'm not in the cool kid club. Never have been never wanted to be. I wouldn't be part of any organization would have me so bad. See, I create the paradigms. I create the future. I don't try black tie dinners. I don't like the paradigms. I create the future. I don't try to sit like a bird on a perch higher than another bird like cockatoos do so I can feel more
Starting point is 00:53:37 powerful. I don't dislike black tie dinners. What are we doing? Quite frankly, I'm a married man. It's a little tempting, So I got to stay away from that What that's why I don't go on the road a lot and go a lot of places and things because I got my weaknesses I'm a good person What the point is is that is? That I am integrity look I'm integrity, but I like to fuck I I can't not fuck you cannot be Integrity and also be like if I leave the house, I'm gonna fuck a fuck. I'm gonna fuck the stranger
Starting point is 00:54:07 I don't know could be anybody I go to a black tie event. I'm gonna fuck I'm gonna fuck I'm gonna fuck I'm gonna fuck if I go to a black tie event I am going to fuck so because I have integrity I won't go that makes sense that makes sense Yeah, I've no notes. That makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah. No notes. I, I, okay. If you ever find yourself in the, I am the creator of dreams. I am the one who is controlling the weather. I'm as good as it gets.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I can't leave the house without fucking. Like if you, if you find yourself in a situation where you're giving that speech, reevaluate. Step back, stop, have somebody nearby, maybe just have a friend whose only job is to notice if you are giving megalomaniacal speeches. Maybe that friend's name is Tito and he's made of vodka. That is possible. Take a drink. So Alex is mad at Laura Loomer because she's like, I'm going to snitch to Trump that you guys aren't loyal enough.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Yeah, I'm going to tell daddy. The real irony is that there's a good chance that Laura Loomer wouldn't be in the position that she's in if Alex hadn't also helped foster her career along the way. Yeah. So, you know, you guys are dealing with your own problems. But he's really explicit about how he just wants to fight with her for attention. Oh my gosh. I've seen like thousands of posts by other people. I'm going to get you.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I'm going to report you. Well, good. We can take all the publicity we can get. That's ridiculous. reports you well good we can take all the publicity we can get ridiculous they could go back to me real quick yeah there she is calling Tucker Carlson a raging Jew hater all right let's just stop right now yes let's let's just stop we can stop god damn it just got a little little excited kind of on a power trip She's always I'm getting screenshots of every one of you and I'm gonna give it a drum
Starting point is 00:56:15 Gee you think somebody on X that's getting millions of views us billions, but other millions Do you think when I posted a picture of Trump? Saying what we voted for and then a picture of George W. Bush, what we're getting, then I said, I hope this isn't the case. Do you think when that got like 8 million views or whatever last time I checked and then post everywhere else, so you can't count it. Do you, it got put on the national news. Do you think I was doing that to hide it? Do you not think this is an attention business?
Starting point is 00:56:45 It's pretty much just laying out an engagement farming strategy here. So on this day, there's a schism in the Trump base with one side preferring war with Iran and the other opposing it. Each side is made up of people with different agendas. Some of them bigots, some of them politically motivated, you know, it's a combination. It's not a big tent, but it is a tent. Yeah, but for the most part, the conflict in the right wing on the 24th is over this wedge issue.
Starting point is 00:57:11 The landscape for Alex has to be looking good because there were two sides arguing on social media about who the true Trump fans were. This whole episode is really just Alex trying to pick a fight with various high profile right wingers on the other side of the issue, all in hopes of getting more people to tweet about him and respect him more. With that aspect of what he's doing in mind, that whole hypnosis thing from earlier really takes on a grotesque dimension, where Alex is weaponizing anti-semitic tropes specifically to get a Jewish man to call him anti-seemitic, which Alex can then pretend to not understand.
Starting point is 00:57:46 It's sick shit. This dude needs to get off Twitter because he's trying to be a Nazi for attention. I mean, I don't know, I don't know. He probably also means a lot of it, but it's also an attention strategy. Like, but you know, okay, how about this? He literally had Kanye on his show
Starting point is 00:58:03 when Kanye was doing what he's doing, you know, like I'm gonna be a Nazi for attention Yeah, but way more confidently. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah these people Honestly, Kanye did it first Kanye turned into a Hitler lover before you do you guys are following Kanye? Yeah, what a weird turn of events quite sad. Yeah Yeah, what a weird turn of events quite sad. Yeah And actually yay, it's interesting that you bring him up because Alex is he's complaining about Laura Loomer. You used to like yay What now what now? Gotcha, and then Laura Loomer. Oh, she loves yay And she used to love Nick Fuentes when she wasn't in the entourage of Trump
Starting point is 00:58:43 Oh, she was smiling and laughing, you know next to a guy saying he loves Hitler and the real history and the deep stuff. But oh, now Tucker Carlson though, he's a secret Nazi. That's right. He's got a red armband. He's got a Nazi swastika on his ass. That's called bullshit. And it's called hypocrisy. I mean, Laura, you run around with people that put out music videos saying, how Hitler. Got him. Boom. Yeah. And then you're going to say Tucker Carlson is a Nazi as if that hurts people. Tucker Carlson is not a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:59:41 He's sophisticated. He's an American. He's a populist. He doesn't like Hitler. He doesn't like total He's a populist. He doesn't like Hitler. He doesn't like totalitarianism. That's why I don't like Hitler. Oh, that's why? Is that the only reason? Seems like it. So this is just another instance of Alex trying to bait a Jewish right-wing
Starting point is 00:59:56 media figure into fighting with him by drifting a bit into anti-Semitic territory. It's a wild thing to see play out so clearly in front of you Especially when Alex is slamming loomer for formerly hanging out with Nick Fuentes when Alex is gonna have him on the show later Like what is the what is the dunk that you're making here? Oh, you think you can just call anybody a Nazi? Well, I'm a Nazi you think you're too cool to hang out with Nazis now because you actually go to the White House Okay. All right. Fine. This is the White House? Alright. Alright, fine. This is sad. And it gets disgusting. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:28 I will honestly say that it gets disgusting. Alright. Alex has a little bit of a flight of fancy about Loomer. Oh, that's no good. So I'll quote Jesus to the war at Loomer. I'm just singling around as an example. I can't wait for her to attack me. I'm really looking forward to it. Jesus was being accused of being you know evil and sinful by a Pharisee
Starting point is 01:00:52 maybe it's a Sadducee and he says hey why don't you get the beam out of your eye the two by four before you tell me about the speck in mine. So Laura I'm just putting you over my knee here and spanking you. I know that's what you've wanted and you've been mad I haven't given you that, but that's okay. But I'm metaphysically putting you over my knee right now and giving you a spanking. Adam Lichman So the context of that whole eye plank thing, it's from Matthew 7 and there's no Pharisees or Sadducees in that story. It's just Jesus teaching.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Adam Tate Yeah, just a regular. Adam Lichman I'd be interested to hear Alex explain the difference between those two groups though. I wonder if he has any idea who the Pharisees and Sadducees were. Oh God, nope. So also this is just disgusting behavior on Alex's part. He's more or less sexually harassing Laura Loomer on air. Sexualized threats and Bible verses in the same minute. It's impressive and guess which one comes from his heart. Hmm. Because it's not both. I mean, this is very Spanish Inquisition. I'm feeling very Spanish Inquisition about these people. It's not good. Laura Loomer says man, I wouldn't fuck her. I mean, that's very gross. That's pretty Spanish Inquisition if you ask me. This dude's gross. So we shift off the sort of sexualized threats territory.
Starting point is 01:02:10 And I think this is where the show really just takes a nose dive. You cannot sit in Kanye West lap during his beginning of his I love Hitler tour sure and prance around like a gremlin at their feet and then suddenly be you know wearing giant stars of David which is really the seal of Solomon not the star of Rin fan I love oh you're covering up star of Rin fan no it's the seal of Remfan, I love, oh you're covering up star of Remfan? No, it's the Seal of Solomon!
Starting point is 01:02:46 And it's even worse than all the idiots out there say it is. They just never get it right. It's the Seal of Satan that seals the demons in. But you can't ever get anything right. Not the Nazis, not the crazy Zionists, none of you. Fools. You know nothing of history. So Remfan is the name of the pagan god worshipped by some Israelites who were led astray in the wilderness, which is covered in Act 7. The text says, quote, Ye took up the tabernacle of Molech and the star of your god Remfan, figures which ye made to worship them, and I will carry you away beyond Babylon. It's a pretty well-known anti-Semitic conspiracy talking point that this verse proves that
Starting point is 01:03:27 Judaism is actually Moloch worship. And so that's the thing that Alex is... against. Sure. But what's interesting is that he seems to reject that antisemitic smear in favor of a more extreme one. And Alex's version of the Seal of Solomon stuff is about as extreme as you can get. This dude is only not a Nazi because he just finds them disappointing, apparently. This is real fucked up.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Yeah, I mean, when you get into... when you see people get into a hypocrisy fight, and there is no bottom because they're both so emblematic of the very concept of hypocrisy. It's hard to even look at them without the brightness of their hypocrisy blinding you. You get weird shit like this. Like, what are you doing? Yeah. Like, it's so strange to hear Alex be able to get mad about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Like, what is the correct anti-Semitic conspiracy interpretation of the Star of David? He has strong feelings about these fools who think it's the Remfan version, but no, it's the Solomon version. It is like listening to people argue about deep lore of like, Star Trek Star Trek, the next generation and, and like, but then also using it to justify horrors. Yeah. It's fun when it's just Star Trek. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Just argue about Star Trek. Do not also, and then be like, and of course we need to subjugate. No, no, no, no, no, no, you don't. No, you don't. No. Star Trek doesn't teach that. Yeah. So I think that we're, we're pretty fully off the rails at this point. Okay
Starting point is 01:05:09 It's in the Bible and in the other ancient text that it's the seal He came up with to seal which other ancient text that he was using to control things in black magic and it's Jewish Mysticism so yes, the star of David is not the star of David It is the seal of Solomon that seals Satan and you go oh you mean it battles Satan no it controls ooh cuz do that works what you've heard it slowly we wrestle with God Israel means and we're even greater than you God remember that could be played last week a Smollett Whoo, that's dangerous. That's that's some and then see oh, and we control Satan, too Yeah, well, I ain't trying to control God or Satan I've got defense against Satan through Jesus Christ, but it didn't me doing it
Starting point is 01:05:55 It's Jesus Christ. So you guys go ahead and run your mouths now you control God you control Satan and oh, you're so powerful Yeah, you think you're in control bless your soul huh we should come out with Norils Barkley bless your soul you think you're in control you don't even know what you're dealing with my dad explained when I was about eight years old, the seal of Solomon, said it was important to understand how the secret societies operated and was at the heart of it. I just believed my dad, I later went out and researched it. But it's hard to find that information because the profane, that's what the other occultists
Starting point is 01:06:41 call everybody else. The Jews call you the goyim. And see, here's the thing. People go, oh God, the Jews, they call us goyim, they call us goyim, they call us goyim. All the cults call everybody else profane. Like dog crap. Be lucky the Jews just call you cows.
Starting point is 01:06:58 What are we doing? What are we doing here? You see, I'm trying to get you to not act like a cow I said we were off the rails This is a fucking mess And I think the one Alex says like my dad taught me this when I was eight and then I researched it It just like he listened to mystery Babylon. I mean that's it. He's just listen to Bill Cooper's dumbass and all these fake books I'm telling you if we had a time machine, I just feel like a lot of things would go completely different in our world.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Completely different if somebody showed up at Alex's house when he was like seven and told his dad to like knock it off. Like, hey, leave the kid alone. You know? Much like is the message of the Bible. Knock it off. Hey, knock it off. David Jones, knock it off. David, knock it off. Like, hey, leave the kid alone. You know, like, much like is the message of the Bible. Not get off. Hey, not get off. David Jones. Not get off. Not get off. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder like, that's the mystery that we'll never really be able to solve. And apparently, Alex's dad is in poor
Starting point is 01:07:56 health. And so maybe he'll never give a full tell all interview. But there is like this lingering question of how much of that is real, like what his dad did Yeah imprint on him from a young age all of this all of this sort of crypto Nazi bullshit right-wing Nonsense and how much of it is Alex creating these stories about what his dad taught him. I don't know I don't know. It doesn't I don't know. It doesn't matter It doesn't but I'm just saying that going back in time and stopping him might not solve the problem. But something would. These people are nuts, man. That's just what he just said is objectively crazy
Starting point is 01:08:37 to the level of like we shouldn't allow you to be out in a car because that's a murder weapon. You know, like that is scary to listen to a person say that. And it really implies a level of rank dishonesty throughout his career. Oh, absolutely. If he's like, this is what he's believed since he was eight or whatever, like there is so much pretending to not be an anti-Semite throughout your career that you have to unpack that. Why did you lie about that?
Starting point is 01:09:08 And actually Alex does give an answer later on in the episode. So look forward to that. But he's really excited about the possibility that people will take him out of context. Yes, that'll be newsworthy. Yeah, it's engagement farming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, there it is. The ring of Solomon to command demons and spirits. So that's engagement for yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There it is the ring of Solomon to command demons and spirits
Starting point is 01:09:26 So that's what it is King Solomon said it he'd studied all the seals and conjured thousands of demons including Satan himself and Married hundreds of wives to study their different occultic religions and even involved human sacrifice And he said that seal commands Satan. Oh, we're having a history lesson today. Laura Limmer, tell me about anti semitism now. Oh, how's old? Yeah, don't need don't need help. You got it. You nailed it, buddy.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Hitler. Watch the left will buddy. I love Hitler. Watch the left. We'll take that out of context. Say Jones is loving Hitler. Good. Put the lies out. People will just come and hear the truth. Hitler was an occultic loser. Set up my British intelligence. It's all on record. You can go find out about it. Well, I'm convinced. So Alex is essentially begging for people to take him out of context on this episode He's saying insane anti-semitic shit and targeting specifically Jewish right-wing media figures and he's desperate for someone to call him anti-semitic
Starting point is 01:10:35 Over it when he says that the media is gonna cut him out is saying anything that I love Hitler and take that out of context He's fantasizing. That's what he's doing. He's just hoping someone does that. Oh God, I'm going to make some money off that. This is something that I haven't experienced in a bit, but this episode feels like it's entirely meant to be bait. This doesn't make it any less horrible and Alex's shit is still awful, but his goals are very transparent. Like this has the same kind of feeling as the I'm going to eat my neighbors. Yeah. Like that episode is such bait. Yeah. It's, it's meant to get coverage that then he can yell about it. Look at what they say about me and yada yada yada. Yeah. Create them like a attention spiral out of it. And he's doing that, but he's just doing it with like, ta-da. The reveal is it's the Jews. Yeah, it's, what, was it Kid Rock,
Starting point is 01:11:27 the Rolling Stone article about how Kid Rock was trying to do a whole thing? Saying the N-word and getting really wasted. I'm not doing this, man, I'm not following this. That's what this feels like. It feels like you're trying to shock me in such a way that makes me go like, that's, come on. It is shocking. I guess like it's not it's not something that I want to just brush aside as look at your attention
Starting point is 01:11:51 Seeking Clown sure sure, you know, but at the same time It's if you can't take it outside of the perspective like you can't understand what he's doing without understanding also That it's meant to provoke. Yeah, it's meant to provoke. It's meant to create a negative response that profits Alex. Yeah, this is, okay, there's the type of bigotry that is hatred towards the other. And then there's the type of bigotry that is, I am going to manipulate my in-group at the other's expense. I don't particularly,
Starting point is 01:12:27 I don't care about who the other is, anybody. I'm trying to harm my in-group with this bigotry, but it's, I'm just using the allure of bullshit. And I would argue that this is both, but it's fundamentally Sure as a because it's public speech. Yeah and communication It's fundamentally the second one sure like that It's primarily and most dangerous as the second one as opposed to like whatever Alex's actual feelings. Yeah. Yeah And that sucks So good. No, nope. So it Trump's cool Okay, it's just the cult members that are inside his administration members. I don't know. Hmm
Starting point is 01:13:13 And the good news is Trump cuz I know Trump very well. He's very smart on business very smart on stuff He'll admit even eight years ago. He'd understand a lot of geopolitics. He'd understand how DC worked. He's learned a lot He'll admit even eight years ago, he'd understand a lot of geopolitics. He didn't understand how DC worked. He's learned a lot, but he still thinks these people are briefing him correctly. A lot of them are just acolytes. Hegs Seth is not a bad person. He's a combat vet, highly decorated, fully brainwashed by the LeCunic. Same thing with Corilla, the head of CENTCOM.
Starting point is 01:13:39 So when they give him these briefings, they are. They are. Members. him these briefings. They are. They are. Members of the cult. They drink the Kool-Aid. And they told him, Sir, we know where the uranium is. We'll get it. It'll stop him. And he goes in and now his very same advisors, the media turn on him, the ones saying, do it, do it, do it. It's so easy. Just fly right over, you know, a few bombs. Oh no, we didn't get it. They moved it out, which of course I'd say it wasn't going to be the case, which I directly warned the president with last week. And then then y'all says, no, we're not doing regime change.
Starting point is 01:14:18 And I showed you all these sock puppet influencers. And I'm going to show you what Nick point is coming up right now. The NGO is Rayleigh sock puppet Microsoft group that put the talking point out influencers, and I'm going to show you what Nick Fuentes is coming up right now, the NGO Israeli sock puppet Microsoft group that put the talking point out that you're not real MAGA, you're an imposter if you don't do whatever Netanyahu says. Now those groups are saying Trump is on the payroll of the Qataris. So this is where the thread of the show really came together for me. And I think that Alex is either selling broadcast time or he's so lazy that he'll just do whole shows for other people if they
Starting point is 01:14:50 Give him talking points and like a skeleton sure when this episode began I was pretty confused about why Alex was getting so defensive about that alleged Microsoft CIA report That wasn't about him it came out six days prior, and I don't think it's been brought up on the show until this point. It makes total sense now, though, with the context that Nick Fuentes is coming up on the show. Nick was named in that report. Alex doesn't really give a shit about this report. He's just doing all of this content on Nick's behalf, but he's trying to make it seem less like that this is like what he's doing by making it about himself and Tucker and Bannon. This is like, I think when you look at what this show is, this particular episode, it seems like it could all be explained by Nick having four requests for Alex.
Starting point is 01:15:39 And that is yell about this report that mentions me, deflect about Trump's connections to Qatar, harass Laura Loomer, and be a real anti-Semitic dick. And those are all four things that are primarily what Nick wants. Yeah. I hate to say like this really, really feels like brokered spawn-con.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it really does. Yeah, I mean, it is inauthentic at the very least. It feels a bit like when you find out the first time that people who go on late night shows, the anecdotes have been very, very like meticulously poured over and tightened. That whole exchange on the couch. It's not spontaneous. Yeah, that's beenulously poured over and tightened.
Starting point is 01:16:25 That whole exchange on the couch. Yeah, that's been written out well in advance, that kind of thing. That feeling of, this is all, like it feels stupid to say, but it's like, in many ways, this is supposed to be all an act. In one way, it's not supposed to be, and in this way ways this is supposed to be all an act in one way it's not supposed to be and in this way it is you know yeah and I think that I I don't
Starting point is 01:16:51 particular I mean I care I think it's less problematic for me when one of his episodes is very obviously like oh economic turmoil oh my god all my God, all of these storylines. And then that's a feeder into his gold sales guy. Right. Because that's just a like kind of a pump and dump. Yeah. You know, like that's just a financial scam that they're running. Yeah. And I think that when the episodes are that it's not really all that interesting. Yeah. But this is it feels like the same thing except instead of selling gold It's Nazi. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's shit It is it is like a it is I am going to I'm going to promote Fuentes as a way of
Starting point is 01:17:40 regaining relevance like by by regaining relevance like by by associating with this prevailing wind Nazi I'll kind of have something there and then like the the profit is is just I want these Nazis to buy my pills yeah I don't I don't and that's that's where my like fundamental confusion is yeah and it's something that I don't, I don't, and that's where my like fundamental confusion is. And it's something that I can't answer without like private documents of Alex's. But like, is it sincerely just a trying to tap into this other market and chasing the popularity of this young Nazi?
Starting point is 01:18:18 Or is it like Nick is paying to be on the show to Right. To try and poach Alex's audience. Right. And I don't know. I, in the past, would have been much more reluctant to like think maybe there's, like he's paying to be on the show. Just straight up brokered, yeah. Yeah, but I don't know anymore.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I have no idea. I, how could you? Yeah. Yeah. This shit's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And this episode is, like it's so notably bait. It's so notably antisemitic. It's so down, it's like a Nick episode.
Starting point is 01:18:52 You know how like Lost has like a Sawyer episode? It's a bottle episode, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a self-contained antisemitism episode. And that's a large, like it feels kind of similar to the last time Nick was on. That felt like an antisemitic bottle episode too. It really feels like there's at least an influence, whatever Nick is doing. And if you wanted to be like, this is how their structuring goes, if you wanted it to
Starting point is 01:19:19 be Alex going, I am going to try and say some really inflammatory shit. So that'll get people like listening when you come on that kind of idea is that, okay, now I'm now people will find a way to like, Oh shit, he's saying, he's saying it real. Yeah. Well hit the nausea. Exactly. Hit the, hit the gas. Yeah. And that'll be right whenever, you know, everybody, all the numbers will come in right as we crescendo to your interview. Yeah. Now, it's gross. Whatever the motivation for it is, is disgusting and toxic.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Great guys. So Trump, good guy. Good guy. Good guy. They're all great guys. He doesn't want regime change. No. Today.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Wow. I'm going to shut up now and go to take point tests. But to me, this is very positive that Trump finally gets it now says, okay, no regime change. I'm really mad at the Israelis. And hopefully he is how he always operates and he gets roped in. And so I don't know what Nick's going to say. I follow him almost every day, but I didn't watch what he said last night. I pretty much do every day. At least I catch some at night or I catch it in the morning, but I did not today.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Seems like Trump's policy on regime change shouldn't be a day-to-day thing that he keeps getting tricked about. That seems like bad leadership. The thing that people sometimes think that things are excuses when in fact they are disqualifying failures. They're indictments.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, oh no, this is what happens, he gets roped in. Do you mean he's fired? I'm firing you, I'm firing, what are you talking about? Yeah, isn't that his catch phrase, you're fired? You just get roped in, what? Yeah, you don't get roped in. That's not, you can't, you can't, you cannot.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Yeah, you're the leader. Jesus. Also pretty embarrassing for Alex to say that he watches Nick's show every day. That's definitely not true. But the funnier part is Alex being so clear that he didn't watch today, so he has no idea what Nick's gonna say. Just in case he has to distance himself.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Like Nick still could go too far, and Alex is keeping that door cracked just a little bit. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Keeping my eye on the door, making sure I have a clear path Yeah, that one's that one's a that one's classic showbiz that old like hey, I love this guy I'm a huge fan watch the show every day didn't watch today weird now You'd think I would because he's on the show, but it's weird. Yeah, it might be on one. Yep Who knows wild so I noticed in this exchange we track the monkey behavior
Starting point is 01:21:44 dominance hierarchies of Alex and Nick. Yes. And Alex is full on subservient. Nick is alpha in this exchange for sure. Well, Nick Cointes is a very exceptional young person you can agree or disagree with some of the things he says and I do but he's 26 years old he's on the political scene nine ten years exploded onto it and all I've done since I was ten years old is
Starting point is 01:22:20 study not all I've done but I mean I'm big in geopolitics and I've, and I've talked, don't forget, I thought family that was all into it. Some family was an intelligence and things and we're anti establishment. So I grew up, you know, John Byrd society, people, all that type of stuff. So I had a real leg up. Um, we're listening to Nick, his family really wasn't into politics. I don't know how he got so informed so quick. Uh, but imagine when he's 51, how much he'll know. Hopefully we're not here and haven't blown ourselves up or AI hasn't killed us all. But Nick, there's so much to unpack here.
Starting point is 01:22:50 So let's go through it here. And I want you to go wherever you want to. We got a lot of time here. I appreciate the time. This episode has an entirely subservient energy that Alex is displaying for Nick. And you can feel that even in how he's comparing himself to Nick. Yep. This isn't Alex saying something like, one day if you work real hard, you might be the next me. It's him saying, this kid is going to be so much better than me one day. Look at him. When he's my age, he's going to be amazing.
Starting point is 01:23:15 I make no mistake about it. Ever since Alex has known Nick, he's known he's a Nazi. Millie Weaver texted him about hanging out with Nick and his fans and was like, they aren't joking about this Yep, she complained multiple times to him that Alex shouldn't associate with Nick So there's no way that he can fake some kind of ignorance on this like he's full-on like I'm breaking the glass Or whatever. I'm just I'm this is this is paternal. Yeah, this is paternal at this point not see son. Yep I'm proud of the boy. I'm so see son. Yep. I'm proud of the boy
Starting point is 01:23:45 I'm so proud of this boy. He's gonna be the quarterback. Yeah Yep, I want to be the dad that teaches this kid about the seal of Solomon when he's eight. Oh my god. Yeah Gross so gross. So Alex is clearly Supposed to bring up this Microsoft CIA report. Right. Right. Because he set the table for it earlier in the episode. He started to build the narrative, and now the payoff is supposed to be Nick complaining that he's in this report.
Starting point is 01:24:15 And Alex doesn't bring up the report before Nick has a chance to bring it up. And you could almost feel Alex being like, oh, I'm so sorry that I didn't get to that in time. That's a stop. I'm gonna give you all the time you need. But since I was about to launch this and you launched it, so I just wanna preface it for everybody. This is a big deal, okay?
Starting point is 01:24:34 I was waiting for this. This is actually the biggest thing we were gonna talk about. I was about to go there 10 seconds before he just threw it out, which I'm glad you did. Let me explain. A publicly Israeli funded run, Microsoft, USAID funded, previous people said, well, Trump's in, no, it's front loaded with CIA funding to these NGOs.
Starting point is 01:24:56 They come then on June 14th. Right before the attacks and all this rolls out, then right when the attack happens, they come out. With the New York Post, which is, you know, a Israel mouthpiece basically and say. There's all these
Starting point is 01:25:22 Russian and Iranians attempting to destroy Trump and they're there. It says they're imposters. They're not MAGA, which then all the People being paid the influencers the bots all put out but then when you read the report their main threat is there's going to be terror attacks and things and When those happen, we don't want anyone to say it's a false flag which now Levin and all the rest of them are saying so Right is that they're about to launch the attack and then the days into it. They put out the big reports all over that Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes and all these people and Tucker Carlson were all just agents and Everybody else is a bot boosting them and they list us all and they're worried
Starting point is 01:26:03 We're gonna say there's a false flag. Oh, and then Levin goes, don't worry, we're still going to war. We're still going to take over Iran because the Iranian sleeper cells are about to hit us. But look out Tucker Carlson and his ilk are going to say it's a false flag. So here they are preemptively getting ready, literally Israel and the deep state and it's all right there. I mean you talk about telegraphing. It almost makes too much sense. It almost does. Yeah so just to say this before I get into any of this I have no interest in defending the Network Contagion Research Institute. I've read the report that Alex and Nick are talking about and looked over a little more of their output and I think
Starting point is 01:26:42 the NCRI may be a little bit of a dubious source. To give you some sense of what I mean, in March they put out a report titled, How Online Extremists Hijacked Christ as King, and the second author that's listed in the contributor section is Dr. Jordan B. Peterson. So this is maybe not a serious outlet. That being said, all of the stuff that Alex is saying is incorrect. The NCRI is not run by the deep state or funded by Israel. They did partner with the ADL's Center for Extremism for a series of reports, so there may be some relationship between the two groups, but I'm not sure how deep that goes. Alex has presented no evidence that there's USAID funding or any of that other stuff, so I'm going to leave that to the side because there's a bigger problem.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Alex said they rolled out this report on June 14th in anticipation of the attack so they could preemptively discredit people who called things false flags and brand them as MAGA imposters. The problem is that the report was released on June 18th, so Alex's timeline is a little bit screwy and convenient for him. Alex further claims that he and Tucker were listed and called agents in this report, which isn't true. Nick is listed along with Jake Shields and Jackson Hinkle, but even they aren't called agents of Russia or Iran. They're referred to as quote, marginal non-credible domestic actors who are quote, engagement dependent personalities operating in the periphery of MAGA discourse. Ooh, talk dirty to me. The report says, quote, as they lack institutional affiliation or consistent ideology, they subsist on narrative opportunism and algorithmic volatility.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Their alignment with state-seeded propaganda arises from relevance hunger, social isolation, and the incentives of digital attention economies. Sure. A fair amount of what they're saying is pretty accurate. That is right on the money. But I'm not sure about the periphery part sure that might be a story that these people are telling themselves To be like well Trump isn't that bad. It'd be nice. It'd be nice. It's some almost a delusion of
Starting point is 01:28:35 Neutrality or central center. What that's never I've never seen that happen before. Yeah Yeah So in addition to these names the report lists a different tier of influencers who are the narrative cedars alleged to be working in service of Iran or Russia. Sure. These are accounts called Draven Noctis, Adim Media, and Megatron Ron, none of which are Alex or Tucker, or even Nick. Yeah. Alex is lying about this report and creating a false version of it to discuss, which it seems painfully clear is something that he's just doing on Nick's behalf. That clip has the energy of someone who doesn't want to get yelled at for not doing their
Starting point is 01:29:12 job, like Alex had fucked up by not introducing this topic before Nick got to it. Alex feels almost like a butler. Like oh no no I didn't sweep up. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. It is interesting. I mean, I guess I Guess what happens? Here's how I see it in the real world is that? Fuente's got named
Starting point is 01:29:36 And this was super duper exciting because now we've got something that is like, oh, they're attacking me And then you know, Alex can help them zhuzh it up, get the story going. So now we've got an actual like, oh, this is a whole crucifixion kind of angle for it. They're coming after Nick Fuentes and all of us, but I guess there's not actually anything there. No, no.
Starting point is 01:30:02 So Alex has to make up a completely different story. Yeah. To prime everybody. Yeah. Yeah. And all of it is in service of like a lot of very convenient things for Nick. Yeah, absolutely. But like it's it's weird because like this report doesn't matter. No. It's really just like, hey, here's an opportunity to like pretend we're under attack. I mean, narrative driven opportunism and algorithmic volatility. And the reason they're hanging out is social isolation. Absolutely. Yeah. Kind of nailed it.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Yeah, that's right on. So Alex just yells and complains about a fake version of this report that he's created in his head to defend Nick And and and I'm totally we got to do more on this. Just listen to me listeners. I have never seen such naked Telegraphing Okay, so their case study is false flag, but it's all about anybody says false flag is a Russian Iranian and Qatari and propagandists. Then not just Levin is literally a massage agent. I mean, just it's obvious a mouthpiece of the Likudin experiment minimum is saying, Oh, the attacks are coming. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 01:31:16 We'll get Iran, but don't listen to people that say it's a false flag. It is totally pre program. Most he goes, Oh, they're gonna blame fellow Americans. No, we're gonna blame Mossad agents, buddy. And so this means 100% they're doing. I mean, this is because they're geared up, they're ready and they're scared of this. We've got to get ahead of this, but then separately, and I'll give you the floor, separately in all of this,
Starting point is 01:31:43 they also then say anybody that disagrees with the war is an imposter. And then all the talking points, the that by all the bots and Laura Loomer and all of them. And then I actually read the report a few days ago and go, oh my God, I went and tried to look at the accounts, it's word for word. So they paid these influencers, obviously. This is a Mossad, Bill Gates, Deep State attack, and then the idiots have put their old blueprint right here. This is the Death Star plans. They have fucked up, Nick. This is huge. Alex is making up all of this, but what I find kind of magical about that clip is the way you can feel Alex's excitement at discovering how he can make these pieces fit together to build a story. He's pulling in whatever he can and pretending that this report said that anyone who opposes
Starting point is 01:32:36 war with Iran is an enemy agent, and he wraps it up with a little bow, and it's almost as if he's asking, like, is that good enough, Nick? Have I done a good job? Yep. He's presenting this bullshit he rattled off like it's for Nick's approval. Sign off on this. Can I clock out? Is the check signed? I mean yeah that's it's very obvious. Well it's not obvious but the behavior matches with that. Like it's not it's proof, but this is the kind of behavior you would see if that were the case. I mean, it's, it's just, yeah, it's I, I, I'm doing a job.
Starting point is 01:33:13 I am do, I am here doing a job. I am not here doing my show. I'm not here doing this. I'm a contractor. You've hired me out to perform this behavior. Yes. That, that, the part of it. That's like he is doing a job Yeah, that is obvious. Yeah, but whether or not it's a job that's like brokered programming kind of job
Starting point is 01:33:32 It's a job. That's just like I got nothing else to do today That's a good question. Yeah. Yeah, I'm desperate for content This seems popular on Twitter Yeah, if you if you get hired to build somebody's house, then you're like, yeah, look, I've got this thing, I've got this going, I've got this place right here for you, this is a really good house, I'm building you a really good house. At the same time, I feel like if I was his friend and I was in his vicinity while he goes on that whole rant about all this.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Like I couldn't help but just, none of this is real man, stop it, stop it, stop it. Like it's, yeah, that's out there. I can't figure out like if he's getting paid or if he's doing it on spec. That's what I can't really figure out. It's about exposure. Yeah. If Alex is working for exposure, that's rough. We're in real trouble. Yeah. So yeah, I think that the tone that they have between them is captured
Starting point is 01:34:31 in this clip. They're even running the game on the conservative base on the Trump supporters saying, hey, if Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes are against this, they turned on Trump. They're fake MAGA. They're fake MAGA. They're manipulating MAGA. And you're right. It's literally word for word in the Murdoch owned New York Post. They say they're trying to manipulate the MAGA base by posing as MAGA and saying they oppose the war and by being propped up by Iranian bots. They're giving this impression that their opinion is... You said it right real quick. Yeah, totally right. They even say imposter. So here's what this is important. This is an elite globalist brainwashing point
Starting point is 01:35:10 But when I first saw it a few weeks ago, they had an implement in it Then I noticed it was implemented read it. The point is this is the battle plan That's what folks we have the plan the Mossad plan right here, which means imminent false flag, brother. This is bad. It is. And everybody needs to be on high alert. I mean, I I'm really concerned about traveling airports. This is embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Uh, Alex is horribly overselling this thing. And even Nick doesn't feel like he wants that spin that Alex has put. He's going a little too far. Yeah. And wrestling, this is what's called a style clash. Sometimes a big beefy guy and a little flippy guy, they have good chemistry and their different styles complement each other. But sometimes they're just not on the same page. And you can tell the way their performances intersect with each other serves to break the illusion of kayfabe instead of deepening it. And that's how this feels.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Alex is in salesman. The sky is falling. We finally found the key to solve the mystery mode. Whereas Nick is trying to sanitize himself to Alex's audience. And he's looking to come off like a studious guy who's being unfairly attacked by this report. It doesn't work together. And the two of them are kind of working against purposes
Starting point is 01:36:26 Alex is just doing this embarrassing over-the-top thing. Yeah, and it feels desperate. Yeah, I mean that okay, so if what we're looking at is Actually Trying to find allies if this makes sense. So in the coming clash between far-right media figures, we'll have, you know, obviously there'll be multiple sides, probably based around some form of bigotry or misogyny, one or the other. This feels like people... Who's white enough. Yeah, this feels like people feeling out
Starting point is 01:37:06 Who's actual allies and who's not going to be allies in the coming struggle? Sure, you know what I mean like but the problem is on the show. They're both trying to be allies to the wrong Show well Alex, you know, yeah Alex is trying to be like this is how I promote you right? It's like all the people who watch my show are gonna laugh at this Yep, because you're an embarrassing old douche If you suck you're being a dork trying to say that this report is the battle plan of massage Yeah, that reveals that false flags are Like, it just seems overly desperate. It seems like somebody who's,
Starting point is 01:37:48 like they don't even think tomorrow matters. I don't care what this story, I don't care what reality I'm implying with this story. I can say anything. Yeah. And tomorrow it will mean nothing. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's the difference between them.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Nick understands tomorrow exists. Nick, you know, he believes tomorrow exists for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So, Nick and Alex, they're both a little bit worried about the idea that Israel might take over the United States. Sure. Aren't we all? I mean, hey, they could walk in. And in discussing this, Alex, I think he says something that he really, really shouldn't
Starting point is 01:38:23 have. Totally agree. I think, you know, as far as Mark Levin he really, really shouldn't have. Totally agree. I think, you know, as far as Mark Levin is concerned, that guy's totally, might as well be in the IDF. And as far as the Hezbollah pagers are concerned, you know, this is something that it doesn't take a big imagination. If Israel can carry out this kind of intelligence penetration of Iran and Hezbollah, you have to assume they could do it to us.
Starting point is 01:38:43 And that's sort of terrifying. You know, what would, if there was a conflict between the US and Israel, who would win? I think it's kind of an open question. You'd assume it'd be us because we're so much bigger and more powerful. But you know, if they have a man inside the White House and inside the Pentagon and inside Google and all the rest of it, and with AI and drones, you know, it's sort of a question. And that is what I'm concerned about is, you know, in the big picture, how this is going to affect balance of power in the Middle East and the world. So I, you know, U.S. of Israel, I don't think that's far off. I think that's
Starting point is 01:39:11 kind of the point. Yeah. I mean, look, Israel was a client state of the British Empire in the U.S. Now it openly says it's the most focused faction. It's put its people into everything. And Israel after China is the greatest national security threat to this country and world peace. That's just a fact. And they've now with them going into full offense, I try to give it energy because they Israel goes and stages false flags against itself since the 50s. They love it. Okay. So the more you attack it and just attack Jews in general, the more power they get.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Okay, folks, I don't want to attack Jews in general, most of them aren't sophisticated like everybody else. But at a certain point when it gets so bad and the cancer is spreading quickly, I'm like, well, we're past the point of return now. We just got a full, full guns. And I've always exposed all this stuff, but I've been attackfully, and now we're in such danger of nuclear war. I'm just like, floodgates, whatever.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Floodgates. This might literally be the worst thing that Alex could possibly say to explain his shift over being way more anti-Semitic, as well as being way more anti-Israel in the recent months. Alex is saying that he hasn't been very vocal about Israel in the past because they're too powerful and that criticizing them plays into their hands. They love false flagging themselves so they can play the victim, so Alex has historically just given them a pass. On one hand, this just isn't true.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Throughout his career, Alex has had varying views on Israel, depending on what's convenient for him at the time, and he was even a fan of Netanyahu during Trump's first term. He's also been very critical of Israel at times when it's been in his interest, like at the beginning of the COVID vaccine rollout where there was high uptake in Israel. There isn't a coherent through line of his position on the Israeli government, but Alex now seems to be saying that he's been going easy on them. Alex isn't shifting toward being more critical of the Israeli government in terms of policy or action. He's becoming more outwardly anti-Semitic. That's what he's made a conscious effort to go easy on over the course of his career
Starting point is 01:41:11 and what he's testing the waters of letting go of now. This isn't even close to subtle, what he's saying. This is like, yeah, over the course of my career, I've gotten a lot of criticism from anti-Semites and Nazis about how I don't say globalists, it means Jews. I don't encourage people to be Nazis. And the floodgates are open now. Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Who cares? I mean, you know, it's a return to that good old fashioned American exceptionalism, anti-Semitism from the old days, you know, back in the 1890s whenever they were really doing it upright Well, I mean it goes back to that without you know the him coming in from break with no more mr Nice guy. This is the this is the image that he's trying to Send across to the audience is like I have been overly nice to you Jewish people, to Jewish people, because being mean to you is just, it serves Israel's interests.
Starting point is 01:42:14 It's strategically not in my interests to be a Nazi, but now I don't give a fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's bad. This is really bad, because on the one hand, he's saying, hey, Nazism that's bad. This is really bad because on the one hand he's saying Hey, Nazism is cool now. Yeah, and then the second thing that he's saying is I've been lying over the entire course of my career Yep, I've been pretending that I don't actually Kind of hate all Jewish people. Yep
Starting point is 01:42:39 But I do I do and I've just strategically I do. I do. And I've just strategically pretended that I didn't. Yeah. It is interesting what people will say when you're not around, you know, because like that to me is something that if he and I were in the room together, that's something that is like, okay, well, then we're done here. Yeah, I'd walk away or get him. Yeah. This is the end of whatever peaceful exchange. This was going to be Yeah, right and in this in this circumstance, he doesn't feel like that's what he's doing You know like this feels like just like no no no see it's okay. He gets roped into things
Starting point is 01:43:21 It's not bad that I'm saying it's got its people everywhere. It's not bad that I'm saying the Jews are unsophisticated. That's not bad. This is me explaining why I've been nice to all of these people for all that. Like that's- He wants like some kind of like virtue points for not being a Nazi all of these years, but it's in service of him saying, now it's time that it's fine. It's cool now.
Starting point is 01:43:47 And that's crazy. See, I've been a secret Nazi this whole time, pushing the cause of Nazism forward in a much more acceptable way. Don't you think I deserve virtue points for not being more of an open Nazi? Now the last time that Nick was on the show, it was another like pretty deeply anti-semitic outburst sure But then the next day it was back to pretending that isn't the case Right. Yeah, so there is a part of me that understands that like this Isn't necessarily indicative of him being like, all right, we're gonna, we're gonna be Nazis every day now.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Sure, sure, sure, sure. But this is raising the temperature in a way that is real. And it's fucked up. Like whether or not it's a bottle episode, it has an effect on the people who are listening to it. And he can fuck right off. So they take some calls. Great. Good. And Alex gets one call, in particular, that he thinks is complimenting him, but then has to quickly realize, uh-oh, this person might be crazy. Mark in Florida, you're on the air. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Hello, Alex. If you had a ticker tape translation of your show in Hebrew, you would win the hearts and minds of the chosen in Israel who are presently hypnotized by the Shabbatian Frankists, you would devastate Bibi Netanyahu and you would devastate the Shabbatian Frankists by taking over the power of the chosen people. You would win their hearts and minds just for the ticker tape AI translation of your show on your program and you were gonna devastate them. Well, if somebody wants to do it, please do it. The show, I want to reach people in Israel too.
Starting point is 01:45:30 I know that Israel is very diverse in their ideas. I don't blame people for the general public in Israel for, you know, the Likudniks. But, I mean, I just don't want to see this war get everybody killed. Anything else? This is coming from Ariel Cohen Aloro, who has been dying to come on your show for years. He is the so-called Advocate that Jesus spoke about he can prove that in gematria. He can prove that with mathematics Ariel Cohen Aloro is begging you to put him on the air so that he can explain. I don't know. I'm not trying to cut you off.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Just we're out of time. We are out of time. We're out of time. Sorry buddy. Buddy. You just brought up grammatria. We gotta go. You're going to talk about Bible math.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Oh boy. Yeah. But Alex thought that that was a compliment. He should have known when he said like the Shabbatian Frankins that's like a direct thing to like David Ike anti-Semitic conspiracies. He has to know like It's it's weird cuz on the one hand you imagine he does know and he's just ignoring this This like very strong indication what this guy's talking about.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Possible. But is it possible that he just doesn't care? And doesn't even, that doesn't register for him? I don't know why he would spend his free time looking into this person. Well he's argued with David Icke about the Frankists. He argues with anybody about anything. True. He'll argue with you about what sidewalk should be made of.
Starting point is 01:47:04 He doesn't know anything about making up a sidewalk. Gold. See? That's what they have in heaven. Sidewalks in heaven. Yeah, everything is better in heaven, therefore sidewalks of gold. Better. That is inarguable logic. Yep. That call was a bummer, but it's a good way for him to be like, we're out of time. I don't do this anymore. I think,. Here's something that's fun. Right. But also here's why the Internet should be exploded. I have worked with a lot of different people and a lot of different jobs over the years.
Starting point is 01:47:35 And there have been at least, you know, I would say one out of every two to three jobs, there would be somebody that I was working with who would say something that would reveal a batshit belief that you're like, well, no human being could possibly believe that. And they do. And what you can do is just go like, we don't have to talk. We'll just do our jobs. We'll just do our jobs, right? Like that guy, the Grimatrian guy.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Boy, buddy, we can just go to work. We can just go to work. Why are you calling into Alex? Yeah, if this comes up around me, we will talk about other things. We can just go to work, man. I have a lot of thoughts about Survivor and Donkey Kong that I can share with you. Have you ever seen the TV? Anything on the TV.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Anything. Now Donkey Kong, when you break down the name with math. Oh God. No, no. Ah, Jesus. And I can prove to you that Funky is the best Kong. No, you can't. We can just work together, man. So we've one last clip here. And it's Nick conceding a very important point. Yeah. And that is that there may be some good Israelis out there. It's possible. I mean, maybe
Starting point is 01:48:40 there there's certainly some good Israelis. I think, you know, Ron owns is a good Jew here in America who would agree with us. But I think a lot of the Israelis, you know, they're, I think they're pretty stubborn. You know, there's a long history in the Bible of very stubborn and, you know, they kind of lose their way a little bit. Maybe that's happening now. What do you think of Michael Savage coming out and saying, when you get rid of Netanyahu? Alex was talking over him a little bit, but Nick said at the end there, the chosen people are us.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Yes, yes. So Nick says there might be some good Israelis out there. And then the example that he has is Ron Unz. Unz is a straight up Holocaust denier who was born in Los Angeles, but whose parents were Jewish immigrants from Ukraine. He's in no way Israeli, but he is Jewish, which Nick treats as the same thing, which is weird. And you can see that Alex does the same thing when he brings up Michael Savage. He's an American who was born in New York, but his parents were Jewish.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Like, this is just them talking about Jewish people, but pretending they're talking about Israel or Israelis. This is fucking garbage. And this is the direction that Alex's show is going on. If there is a meaningful shift that's happening, like there's a lot of stuff about his disenchantment with Trump and, you know, weird energy around Elon Musk and all that stuff that is very important. But this is a damn breaking. This is a 30 year damn breaking that I don't know how you can walk back Yeah, the stuff with Trump like yeah, sure you spend a decade
Starting point is 01:50:11 Kissing this guy's ass and making excuses for all the things that he's done But you did that with Ron Paul too, like this is way more high-profile and embarrassing and sure There's gonna be baggage. You're gonna have to carry for a while. Sure, but you can shift It's gonna be painful. You're gonna lose some people you're gonna have to Invoke a lot of cognitive dissonance for people to go along with it But this I don't know how you go back from Being like I've known since I was eight that the star of David is a secret seal that controls demons like I don't know how you're supposed to like
Starting point is 01:50:47 You do you don't go back You know I mean I wonder if what we should be learning or the lesson that we should have learned is that these people Were already crazy. Yes when we thought they were not and that there was never any going back because it's already too deep in a hole that like I never any going back because it's already too deep in a hole that like I I am the one who creates the paradigms is right next to I think we are the chosen people there these people are insane yeah this is insane you can't be the chosen people and also fucking go to a Walgreens that's not how God works I am the Tom Brady of this shit.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I'm the best there is. And now let me do four minutes of an impression of a Jewish guy hypnotizing an audience. You're all fucking crazy. I don't know, man. I think that this episode is dog shit. I think it sucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:41 I think that Alex should be ashamed of himself. I think that there is a best case scenario that Nick paid him to do it. Like that's me trying to be as generous as possible with my interpretation of what caused this. If he didn't get paid to do this, then he's a fucking disgrace. He is a neo Nazi and has been lying to his audience for 30 years about what he actually believes. So I sincerely hope for his sake that he got paid. And fuck him. I mean, not enough. Whatever amount it is, it's not enough. So anyway, we still have the Epstein list coming soon to a theater near you.
Starting point is 01:52:27 And we'll check in and see how Alex navigates all this territory. But until then, we have a website. Indeed we do. It's knowledgeright.com. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo.
Starting point is 01:52:38 I'm DZX Clark. I am the Mysterious Professor. Woo yeah woo yeah woo! And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Chanzas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
Starting point is 01:52:52 I love you.

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