Knowledge Fight - #1064: July 13-15, 2025

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan try to keep track of all the flips and flops of Alex's continuing attempt to navigate Trump's comically bad handling of the Epstein story, including Trump's scoldin...g message on social media directed at his "boys and in some cases gals."

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ina, nah, nah, no, no, no, no, no, knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating. Knowledgefight.com. It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. knowledge and George
Starting point is 00:00:31 knowledge fight I need I need money Andy and Kansas Andy and Andy in Kansas It's down to pray Andy in Kansas you're on the air Thanks for holding Hello Alex I'm a first time calling
Starting point is 00:00:51 I'm a huge fan I love your world Knowledge Fight Knowledge Fightcom I love you Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship with the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Trots.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Good question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? Why don't you go first? My bright spot is I was playing tennis with my cousin. We like to play tennis. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And then he got sick. The air quality was really bad, and he just couldn't play any longer. So we had to stop. And we'd only been playing. playing for a little while, so it was like, ah, this isn't any fun. But even though it was 7.30 in the morning, there was just another guy out there. There's just another guy by himself. Now, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:01:40 That is weird. Because tennis is for two. It takes two. Or a wall. Or a wall. But he was just playing around, you know, doing stuff. I don't know. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Was he like hitting the ball way up in the air and running around? No, he was practicing serves. I think that's what he was doing. So you can do that by yourself. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I mean, it's not as important. impressive to get one past somebody if there's no one there no but you know you get a bucket of balls
Starting point is 00:02:03 and you yeah that kind of thing so instead of uh calling in a day i was like hey let's just play some tennis and the guy said yes okay yeah it was great so we played for another like half hour him and me we talked we you know it was great it's real fun oh we didn't keep score oh he was not he's not as as good as uh me he's good against no one he's good against no one he's good against no one So it was just fun to, you know, go back and forth, hit a little bit. Sure. Didn't have to try and win anything. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And, you know, it's nice to just run into somebody and they say yes to life. It was awesome. It was awesome. We both, we both, it was, it's interesting to genuinely meet a new person, a complete stranger with just the intent of like, I guess we're going to hang out now. Because both of us could feel this like, this isn't what we do in 2025, is it? Yeah. Do we still just shake hands with new people? I guess we do.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Well, you have to over the... Exactly. Over the net. Yep. All right. What's your bright spot? Well, I think I've talked about this before, but I'm going to keep on... I'm going to extend it even further. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Serial is getting out of hand. Cereal is getting out of hand. I agree with you. I have encountered a couple of cereals recently that. Frosted flakes had a donut hole variety. What? Yeah, it's just like balls of, like, because frosted flakes are just like, you know, frosting on a flake.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So this is just like a brown thing, but with frosting, frosted on it. Terrible. Just a disaster. That's awful. That sounds awful. I didn't care for it,
Starting point is 00:03:48 and I'm mad at the tiger now. Yeah, I believe it. So the other thing is every goddamn cereal is throwing in marshmallows. That's true. I think I've brought up in the past that I found a fruit loops with marshmallows. That's disgusting. And I recently found a fruity pebbles.
Starting point is 00:04:06 No. With marshmallows. No. It's too much. No, that's a fucking travestle. You have to choose one lane that you're going down with these candy cereals. Marshmallows are not in addition to most cereals. Marshmallows are usually a subtraction to most cereals.
Starting point is 00:04:20 They belong in specific territory. Lucky charms. Absolutely. The monster variety. Of course. We can throw marshmallows in there. Booberries, yes. You don't want cinnamon toast crunch with marshmallows.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It's too much. No, disgusting. You pick one major. Yeah. And then you graduate. That's what I'm talking about. Where are you going to focus and where are you going to matriculate? Kellogg's University, my friend.
Starting point is 00:04:44 These fucking cereals are trying to be jacks of all trade and it's just not working. You know, it's tough. It's tough because you got to ask yourself, like, Like, don't we have some ambition? Like the people who make Kellogg's cord flakes. They've been doing this since a guy tried to stop people from masturbating. That's what, this is their whole thing. What are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:05:08 Just make frosted flakes forever? Somebody's got to have ambition. Somebody's got to shoot for the ad marshmallow stars. Right, but they did the donut hole. Oh, that was a bad idea. Yeah. Yeah. Look, the donut holds a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah. Throwing marshmallows and everything is insulting. Yeah. Because we can do that. ourselves. If we really want marshmallows in that cereal, we can do that. I will put the sugar in grape nuts by myself, sir. Thank you very much. You're depriving me from the ability to be creative. Yep. Agreed. And I don't like it. No, you're right on. Cool it. Cereals. Knock it off. So today we have an episode to go over during it.
Starting point is 00:05:48 We're going to be talking about July 13th to 15th. Okay. 2025, as we encounter the next chapter in Alex's deterioration around the Epstein debacle. I think it's going great. It's still going great. I think people have got a handle on it. I think we've all moved on. I think, thankfully, nobody's made any own goals since this time period. No.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yeah. There's not still headlines coming out that are dicey and need to be spun. Nobody's on a rooftop. Hey, look. I know we've talked about this. I didn't look too deeply into it, but you texted me about Trump being on a rooftop and yelling at reporters. And I thought, like, I get it. I like being on a roof.
Starting point is 00:06:35 No, no, no, no. This is, you're right. This is the most relatable thing I can think of for this man to do right now. Yeah. If you had like a folding chair and a cooler. Yep. 100%. I get it.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Guys, what are we all doing here? That's the thing that I'm going to open up a beer and talk to you about. Yeah. It would be a chill move on the president's part to hang out with his bros on the roof. Agreed. But yeah, this episode sucks. This is a disaster, and I think it's very funny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:06 But before we get down to any of this, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wanks. Ooh, that's a great idea. So first, happy eighth birthday to Clifford, the big gay dog. Thank you so much. You're now, PolicyWalk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Starting point is 00:07:37 I'm a policy won't. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to Zach from Lou in St. Paul. Thank you so much. You and I have a technocrat. I'm a policy won't. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, Sotomite, sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Sharp. Bomb bomb, bomb, bum, bam. Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
Starting point is 00:08:00 He's a loser, little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So, you might notice that there's a little bit of a gap in between our last episode and this one. Sure. And that is because Alex goes away.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I'm sorry? He does. He disappears for a bit. Fun. So if you're Alex at this point, after the ninth, those are our last episode, after that, you're probably thinking that you've made it through the worst of the turbulence. And it can't really get any worse from here. It's hard to imagine it getting worse.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Damage has been done. Trump blew up at a reporter who asked someone else why the DOJ seemed to be changing their story about the Epstein case. And that looked so bad that Alex had to explain it away by saying the Trump had made a deal with the globalists. And maybe he was planning on using this blackmail that. Epstein allegedly created for his own purposes, for Americana's sake. Survivable at least. But that was a few days ago now on the 13th.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And the Trump base, they've a notoriously non-existent attention span. In the past 10 years, they've cultivated a media ecosystem built on the principle of distracting the audience from realizing that Trump sucks and he always has. If you're in the position of a propagandist within this space, in the past 10 years, you thought like, uh-oh, this is the big one. like a hundred times, only to see whatever you're really worried about fade into the background whenever some other shiny, scary headline comes around. Oh, no, there's another migrant caravan.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Oh, no, secret Ebola outbreaks are happening in Denver. What I'm saying is that things had to look dark, but you would have every reason to think that maybe it could blow over. This whole time, Alex's primary message to the Trump administration has been, if you want to cover this up, then shut up. Talking is hurting the cause. And now it seems like Alex has decided to take his own advice, because Owen hosts the show for the next few days while he tries to recover from whatever the past few days spin has taken out of him. Alex takes off Thursday and Friday, the 10th and the 11th of July, and he doesn't have a show on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:10:08 But then, on Saturday, Trump got on truth social and posted a message that just made everything worse. Amazing. He said, quote, what's going on with my boys? and in some cases, gals. They're going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who's doing a fantastic job. We're on one team, Maga, and I don't like what's happening.
Starting point is 00:10:28 We have a perfect administration, the talk of the world, and selfish people are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it's Epstein over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the losers
Starting point is 00:10:44 and criminals of the Biden administration who calmed the world with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, 51 intelligence agents, the laptop from hell, and more. They created the Epstein files, just like they created the fake Hillary Clinton-Christopher Steele dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called friends are playing right into their hands. It's a very long post, but it wraps up saying,
Starting point is 00:11:07 quote, one year ago, our country was dead. Now it's the hottest country anywhere in the world. Let's keep it that way and not waste our time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein, someone that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to this matter. As you can imagine, this didn't go over well.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And on Sunday, even though Alex has a show on Sunday evenings, he couldn't wait and had to get something out. Because this is a crisis. That is fucking crazy. Yeah. I mean, as a lover of dignity, none to be found.
Starting point is 00:11:42 None to be found very near here at all. A lot of capitalization. In weird places. Yep, that sounds right. Do you not, I think it's dignified for him to have put, uh, my boys and in some cases, gals in quotes. Amazing. Boys and gals are in quotes.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Do you know what I love about something like this post is that this post started with, don't worry, I got this. Yes. Yeah. Sir, what are we going to do? Don't worry. I've got this. Boys and gals.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Nailed it. Let's roll. What's up with my boys? and sometimes gals. Sometimes gals. What's up? Very few gals these days. Wonder why.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Anyways, Epstein's probably not a problem for me. Would you guys please shut the fuck up about this guy? What are you? What are we doing? What are we, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. All we are doing is pointing out that he was my best friend. That's playing right into the enemy's hands and my fake friends. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Won't shut up about it. I mean, that's actually accurate, though. They are his fake friends. I don't know if anyone's a friend Yeah, that's fair So Alex has been gone And that's a little bit strange But I do think that on some level
Starting point is 00:12:55 It's partially because like He has to think that everything's okay Trump is calms down a little bit And then it picks back up here on the 13th And there's just no way around Stepping back in Owen can't handle this Do you know what's funny about it
Starting point is 00:13:11 Is that this is one of those things Where once again we suggest that Alex is aware that he can only make things worse because of his proclivity his inability to not make things worse right so we can rely on nobody paying attention to owen or him just being able to tow the line of like and that's it yeah Owen talks and the world ignores yeah like no one cares but Alex could create something that he's going to have to undo yep if he's on air he's a
Starting point is 00:13:41 danger to himself in a situation like this Alex you're a grenade we got to put you away for a while. It's just, and they know it. Yeah. So he's got, like, he's out of studio. He's on vacation somewhere or something. Right, right, right. He's in a bunker.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah. And he has to record something on this Sunday because it's like, fucking hell. This is crazy. Yeah. So I call balls and strikes on this. And I'm not here defending the fiasco we've seen. And what's unfolded that we've been at the very center of breaking and reporting on it. Ball.
Starting point is 00:14:13 But I have my integrity. so I've got to go where the facts lead. That said, you noticed during the last few days, I've posted a few articles, a few videos, but I'm not really made a bunch of big statements about this. Strike. Because I wanted to really do my own research and really make an informed decision about what I was about to say. Ball. And doing that research has only opened up more questions than its answer.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Error. Yep. Alex wasn't doing his own research. He was desperately hoping Trump would shut the fuck up. up and this thing would go away. He was hiding out, and rightly so. Alex was only going to talk himself into chop your waters, and like you brought up, like it's perfectly said, no one cares what Owen does.
Starting point is 00:14:56 He went to jail, then got out of jail, and basically no one noticed anything had happened. Didn't become like a martyr, didn't become just a guy who was in jail for a while. Tucker barely interviewed him. Yep. I'm pretty sure that if Trump hadn't posted this shit on truth social, Alex would still be off air. For the past few days, there's been bad vise. and hush talk about Dan Bongina wanting to quit at the FBI, but you could still possibly think that this was going to be all right.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Trump blowing up at that reporter was bad, but this is now becoming a pattern. And it's pretty clear that Trump isn't going to budge here. So I can see how this would be like a moment, an inflection point. Yeah. Where it's like this isn't going away. There shouldn't be any question for these people at this point. Like Trump has made the cost of entry to the club very clear.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yep. And it is shut up. Yep. You can't ask questions. Guess what? I get to do whatever the fuck I want. And that's beyond what you ever imagined that I would want to do. So surprise.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So Alex is like, hey, man, it's a holiday, kind of. Sure. It's the anniversary of Trump getting shot in Pennsylvania. So why won't we think, look, think about how stressed he must be. Let's remember that one year ago today, July 13th, 2024 in Butler, Pennsylvania, a young man
Starting point is 00:16:20 with total government federal M.O. connections goes to that fairground and is on top that building for at least 10 minutes with a gun and everybody's saying gun, gun, gun, no one does anything.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And sure enough, they've now forced the Trump administration part of the report to come out that 10 days before, they got a specific threat alert on the planet Butler, and then that was basically stood down on by the deputy director, who we now know was involved running a standout. Trump's FBI just came out and said that crooks, the Pennsylvania shooter, acted alone, and it wasn't an inside job.
Starting point is 00:17:04 This is supposed to be another cover-up that Alex is furious about, but now there's some kind of a victory here or something. The report he's talking about was put out by Rand Paul, head of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Alex should definitely not agree with the argument it lays out in terms of the advanced threat warning that Trump had. Alex has said that the globalists wanted to present the idea that Iran was trying to kill Trump, and that they would spin these assassination attempts as being done by Iran in order to create public support for a war with Iran. If you're an Info Wars listener, you absolutely know this narrative backwards and forwards. In Rand Paul's report, the advance warning wasn't 10 days prior to the Butler shooting.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It was the day before, and it wasn't about crooks. It involved the FBI arresting a Pakistani national who they claimed had links to the IRGC, and they claim admitted to the DOJ that he had come to the United States in April 2024 to, quote, recruit an individual to assassinate U.S. political officials. According to the report, he met with undercover federal agents, who he thought were assassins, made a deal for them to carry out the murder, and gave them $5,000. That's not enough money for me to take this seriously.
Starting point is 00:18:14 If the FBI, like what they're saying is true, then I'll believe that this guy probably wanted to hire someone for a murder, but if they were paying $5,000, they weren't working for a foreign government, and no self-respecting assassin would take that rate to kill a president. That's crazy. Either way, the report Alex is making up a bunch of stuff about here, like he should have a fundamental problem with the premise that ran Paul.
Starting point is 00:18:38 is working from. This isn't a report about, like, an inside job globalist assassination plot and the Secret Service stand down. It's about the Secret Service failing to protect Trump from an Iranian assassination attempt. Like, Alex should be mad at this report. The Secret Service, okay, they've never protected anybody from getting shot. Right? Like, we've had the Secret Service for a long, long time.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yeah. And it's actually, I was reading a history of. of all the presidents who've been shot at or died in office, which was fun. But it also shows like the slow evolution of people being like, well, we got to protect this guy. So the first time, everybody's like, oh, yeah, you're going to get shot if you try and be the president. And then they're like, we'll have a couple of guys stationed outside of here.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And then the more details and then the more details and then more details, but people are still going to shoot them because you can't see people coming. It's just how it works. Sure, I haven't read this book, and I don't know for sure, but I would assume that there are, like, once bullets start flying, yeah, maybe they haven't protected anybody. But earlier stages, I imagine there are some examples of things that they've, they've averted. But there's also, like this to me kind of feels like the terrorist plots that were disrupted after 9-11. Oh, yeah. You know, like there's a lot of FBI probably entrapment.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, they've done like a hundred or more of those recently. If somebody is paying $5,000 to undercover FBI agents to kill the president, I don't know if that is an Iranian assassination attempt. That's somebody you've, who's clearly not capable of doing the math of murdering a president. Probably. So you've very specifically chosen this person to steal $5,000 from. Yeah. so you just got to remember man it's that it's a stressful anniversary and we all should
Starting point is 00:20:40 go a little light on the guy so let's let's just have that backrock here of the stress and the pressure uh that trump is under and the fact that the bad guys that we know are bad the democrats the globalist you know obama's people he just had a third unelected term with Biden let's just remember that when we're balancing on this okay because my job is not to be an apologize here for Trump. I'm very, very upset. Won't you think about how stressed out he is? This is an apologize.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Come on, man. I mean, there should be, I think one of the things that would make communication between all people easier is if we had a visible meter of like when it's going to cut it. You know, like, oh,
Starting point is 00:21:27 that's going to cut it, his bullshit. But this, this isn't going to cut it, buddy. The meter's high. Everybody's meter is too high You're going to have to find something to cut it Because this isn't going to do it Ironically the only thing The probably could cut it is nothing
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah, I mean again, yes Just have Owen Go home It doesn't really feel like There's anything short of being like Fuck it I've put up with this too long Trump bought me off
Starting point is 00:21:56 And like having a Bullworth Ass moment or something like that It's the only thing that really feels like it would cut it at this point. Yeah. Trying to deepen the conspiracy and come up with an explanation and guilting everyone about how stressed Trump must be because he got shot at a year ago. Nope.
Starting point is 00:22:13 No way, dude. Nope. Jimmy Fallon and break character, my man. Let's do it. It is weak. Yeah. So anyway, Trump, you know, he kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago. Sure.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Now, we recently, after this episode was recorded, we have gotten more information about Trump's feelings about that, which are not good. Well. But Alex doesn't know that at this point. That's true. And so Trump was in New York socialite, Palm Beach Socialite. He knew Epstein. I did deep research on every connection to any of the crimes he committed.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Jesus. Trump actually kicked him out of Marlago 15 plus years ago, one of the first people to criticize him. He said nice things by that before because they're interviewing the newspapers all the time. Trump's a lot of nice stuff about me. So, dude. What? Don't say that. What?
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah, sure. Trump said nice things about Epstein, but he said nice things about me. Yeah, he's a lying piece of shit. What does that mean? when could you ever trust anything he says well there's that element of it but then there's also the element where alix is putting himself into a comparable position with epstein and that's not good well he says nice things about people who are evil and then he says nice things about people who are me and i can see that those two are very different yeah even though they're the only two in the same sentence this is a this like in a season of unforced errors everybody is committing in trump's world that that that's another one that ones that ones is close to uh the hitler trump one that one's that one's that one's pretty Pretty obvious. So, look, even though Trump's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And very stressed out. Super cool. Because he got shot out a year ago, and we should all be very nice. Trauma's trauma. There's still the question of the Patel and Bongino and Pam Bondi. Like, they're flip-flop. And it just doesn't make sense. We recently get told there is no human trafficking.
Starting point is 00:23:52 There is no blackmail. There is. He killed himself. Just go to sleep. And this is after we see Bondi. as you already know, and many others, saying, no, no, no, we got these 14 terabytes. The Democrats were controlling them in New York at the FBI. They wouldn't give it to us.
Starting point is 00:24:12 We went and got it. It's all those horrible kids being raped. It's all those terrible stuff. Hundreds of new victims with Epstein, which is very specific. And then all of a sudden, Bongino and Patel come out a few months going to Fox and, like, during the headlights. Oh, no, no, no. It's all open to shut. There's nothing there.
Starting point is 00:24:28 The case is closed. And Butler's closed, too. people go man that's terrible then they go on a tour and Patel goes on Rogan and says the same stuff a month later a bunch of other shows and we're just like if you guys think you can't prosecute this and want to move on from it because it's got US intelligence Israeli dollars involved I'm not endorsing that but I can at least understand the logic
Starting point is 00:24:48 from your perspective of it I said back in a few months ago I said shut up then this is a self-inflicted wound the way you are just absolutely fully and completely doing exactly what I would do if I was trying to discredit myself, as I said at the time. I think that Alex can't even quite grasp what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Like, he's essentially saying if stopping a giant child trafficking ring is too inconvenient for the deep state, then you should just let it go, but they need to do it quietly. They need to do it. I could understand you not wanting to disrupt the deep state, you know, because it's, it would be a mess.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yeah. I understand that, but just shut up. it is it is interesting to me when unreasonable people feel like what they're doing is saying what reasonable people would say you know like that idea of well if this is true then you should shut up without realizing what that admits about everything else you know like if you are aware that a way for them to get away with this that you want them to have is being quiet about it then we have to go back and relitigate everything man yeah everything well i think it's it's an inherent problem that comes when your world is demons and angels black and white absolute battle between good and evil and then you have to try and equivocate a little bit and do like well you know you take the wins and losses in politics you can't you can't you can't play both games because one side is the devil yeah yeah you've got either we have to fight for god or i don't really have to do anything because god's in charge my man
Starting point is 00:26:27 That's what you get. That's why you choose that life. Yeah. And it's just, it's just no good. No good. So I think that Alex does not want to talk about this Trump post. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I think he's kind of, like he knows he has to. Sure. But he doesn't want to. You know, now you've seen Trump with his true social last night. I end here on X saying, you know, hey, look at all the great stuff we've done. The boys are fighting with Pam, but I'm. I back, Pam. Sometimes the gals.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Some of my so-called friends are bringing this up. You know I'm good. Just trust me and move on. Trump is not stupid. Yeah. I don't believe he's involved with obscene and criminal. These files aren't just a list of Johns doing this evil stuff. It's all his business stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And so Trump had said back in October with Lex Friedman, well, I'll release JFK and 9-11. and RFK and all that, and I'm okay, but maybe not the upstream is that might hurt innocent people. How does it hurt innocent people of innocent people went to the island? I mean, Disney Cruises went there. How does it hurt innocent people if you're not in the investigation of criminal area? But you see, it's a bunch of powerful business leaders of people, a bunch of them who are guilty, and they're telling Trump, this will bring down the stock market, this will crash the economy, this happens.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And I said that last Monday, and I've been proven right now floated that through surrogates, that's what it is. And I'm not defending that. I'm just simply laying out the thought process. People keep taking clips of me out of context when I'm wargaming this and doubles advocating and saying, oh, look, Jones's doors. No, I'm not. I'm here exposing it all. But what I do is trying to get lizards and viewers
Starting point is 00:28:11 who teach me a lot as well in your comments and videos, but also I teach you to actually do what real intelligence analysts do that I do as a private intelligence analyst for freedom, info wars. And I go out and try to when I don't know exactly what's happening, but I have a general understanding to take all the historical context, current behavior, who stands to gain key bono,
Starting point is 00:28:35 how the narratives are changing and try to give you an approximation of what's most accurate. Like today, to have a website named InfoWor, it seems like that's what this all is. They say, we're in Info, everything's an InfoWr now. Well, people were so unaware of this
Starting point is 00:28:46 back in 1997 when I registered that name that I would say it was InfoWR, really popularized the term, even though it was already in use in intelligence. You can really tell when Alex doesn't want to talk about an issue that he's brought up because he'll start going hard in whatever other direction
Starting point is 00:29:00 his brain wanders. This is supposed to be him talking about Trump's insane truth social post and it's drifted away pretty quickly into grandpa's story time about how smart he was to call his website info wars. He can't look at this head on because if he did, the only way to go is
Starting point is 00:29:16 to say, you heard Trump, it's time to stop asking questions. That's it. Trump is directly coming out on his social media platform and telling people who are upset about Epstein that they're getting in the way, they're fake friends, and they need to shut up. There's no ambiguity here. No way to say that this is the globalists.
Starting point is 00:29:32 The only question is, can Trump say shit like that? And Alex's answer on this episode seems to be yes. He seems to be drifting in that direction, which is weird. I mean, you know, at a certain point, maybe list all of your favorite ice cream flavors. And it's ice cream, so maybe every flavor is your favorite flavor. You could take a long time just on Ben and Jerry's. Exactly. So, you know, you just start listing those things and then by the day.
Starting point is 00:29:56 time that you're ready to really get into things it's time for the show to end and for you to get some ice cream second hour jenny's there's a reward at the end of talking about ice cream and that's ice cream yep so why would you talk about this truth social post i'm on vacation that's for everybody ice cream time so uh look trump threatening the media sure not good well i mean for democracy or whatever it's no no well it's really just more a tactics thing It's really... I agree with that. It's just not ideal.
Starting point is 00:30:29 You wish you wouldn't. The attempts by some of Trump world surrogates to reach out to talk show hosts and journalists and influencers and say, hey, your access will be cut off. You never be invited to a Trump event again. You never be invited to the White House. You'll never be any of this stuff. You're not going to any conservative sponsorship. You know, no campaign contribution, you know, ads running next cycle if you do this.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And that's been going on. that A is not very moral That's how the Democrats try to censor and control And then B It's going to create a mega Streisand effect As I said Seven eight days ago And that is exactly
Starting point is 00:31:08 What all of this is done So again I go back to the central point of It is Trump And it is his advisors That have gone with this narrative Of them just saying forget about it Move along These aren't the droids you're looking for
Starting point is 00:31:22 as populist, nationalists, common sense, conservatives, whatever you want to call as Christians, we are not falling to Jedi mind tricks and gaslighting. Ho-ho, ho, ho, teeny Jedi. So the mind tricks don't work. In fact, it makes everybody go, ooh, why are you doing this? Remember when a couple days ago, Alex made fun of Ted Cruz appealing to his boom audience with Star
Starting point is 00:31:53 Star Wars references? You know, it's strange? That's exactly what I was thinking during that time. It's hard not to anymore. It's very weird. We had the same thought about something very related.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah. So I think that I don't know. I've never really been involved with the world of politics. Sure. So I don't know how it actually works. But I would assume
Starting point is 00:32:15 it's just kind of an unspoken thing that if you do things that the White House doesn't like, you might fall out of favor with them. Yeah. I don't know if that means we're not going to advertise with you or we're not going to give you White House credentials. Sure.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I don't know how much retaliation there is, but I would assume maybe there's like a cold look you might get from the press secretary or something. Sure. If you do. I feel like that is just how humans interact. It's a human system. That's how it works. I think it's crazy to imagine that someone would articulate these things.
Starting point is 00:32:49 It's a bad idea. Some Trump surrogate being like, we're going to cut your ad revenue if you don't fucking shut up about Epstein. Yeah. Why would you say that? You could imply it. I think it was Terry Pratchett. I think it was Terry Pratchett. He invented this group of people and then he had them because they didn't know how to lie.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So this group of people doesn't know how to lie and they have to have somebody to interact with the outside world. And so they call them the liar, right? And then the liar goes and meet with all the other diplomats and they go, you make us feel not very good about our jobs, you know, because you're saying what you are, right? It's kind of like that. If you don't say it, we don't have to feel like maybe we're liars here, okay? Yeah, but in this case, it's like extortion. Yeah, that's the trouble.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I mean, is that a kind of lie? Maybe. Maybe it's a little bit on the, you scratch my back, I scratch your back, a line of meritocracy. Yeah, and I don't think that it's. It's good for a government to retaliate against reporters. Don't get me wrong. I don't think that that's okay for it to be business as usual. Sure.
Starting point is 00:33:58 But I do think that in a real world setting, a tiny bit of it probably just happens like it might at an office. It's hard not to be like, hey, you know what? That guy's an asshole. I don't want to see him anymore. He made me feel dumb, so I think he's an asshole. I'm not trying to end democracy. I'm trying to end that asshole.
Starting point is 00:34:16 This is like an effort to end the press. This is a whole, let's get rid of all of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This may be a baby in the bathwater situation. Fucking crazy. Yep. So, Alex has a new angle on what happened here. Great.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And. I bet it's going to work. Yeah. I mean, look, it's going to fly. Yeah. It's going to pass the mustard test or whatever. It's going to cut it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Yep. So Elon tweeted that thing about Trump being in the Epstein file. Sure. And then Trump kind of overreacted. Wow. That's really all this is. Is that all this is? It's really just an overreact.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Fair enough. We know why this is happening now. A few months ago, Trump's director of hiring, who's got a very mysterious past himself, Gore, killed Elon's director of NASA. Not literally. It did a bunch of other stuff
Starting point is 00:35:09 because Republicans didn't want Elon in there because he's killing real crush. It's very believable now, though. And people said, oh, screw Elon, we choose Trump like it was a beauty pageant or something. And I said, you need to look out. Folks messed with Elon, came after him. The Democrats, how'd that work out.
Starting point is 00:35:23 So this is a really bad rift. It's really dangerous. It's out of control. Trump came out and said, maybe we'll use Doge to shut down his companies. The monster he created, I said, that's very dangerous, not good. But I said, regardless now, this Epstein thing out there in the open, how will Trump respond? Well, Trump puts the pressure on, and he has Bongino and Patel announced the case is closed. They start doing it a month and a half ago, two months ago,
Starting point is 00:35:50 right after Elon makes those statements about I'm dropping a big bomb here, Trump's in the investigation, basically, in the list. Didn't say he's raping kids. It's said it's being suppressed because he's in there. And I'm like, I don't know if that's true, but let's you see, but this is dangerous. A lot of people have pop card out, hey, this is fun, it's like a gladiator fight. No, it's not. We need Trump to succeed.
Starting point is 00:36:11 We need to stop the globalists. We need to, the Democrats, we know are period. Well, that's a known thing. And so now you see this mature. It's not really been Elon that's been pregenerating it now. It was Trump's over-response coming out and saying, I want that investigation case closed. The people said, how dare me last Monday say this is from Trump, not Bondi, people were trying to scapegoat. And then, of course, he came out with a statement on true social afternoon, and the next day at the press conference, it's not so famous.
Starting point is 00:36:44 if Alex believes that this is the case then Trump ordered a giant cover-up of this case because he got his feelings hurt by an Elon tweet if he believes that then he's accusing Trump of possibly the clearest case of presidential abuse of power in American history I don't believe that Alex believes what he's saying but if he does then he should be calling for Trump
Starting point is 00:37:04 to be executed for treason like he why would he want like Elon tweeted something that's inconvenient for me so I'm going to mobilize the Department of justice to squash a case. What the fuck is he even saying? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And again, it's a tweet. More to the point, though, here. Like, this is a completely different narrative than the one Alex has been going with since this story broke. If Elon's tweet made Trump overreact and demand the DOJ publicly clear him of any wrong doing with the Epstein case, then everything Alex has been saying so far has been wrong. There wasn't a deal that was made between Trump and the global. This isn't Israel and the U.S. intelligence agencies fighting for control.
Starting point is 00:37:48 It's two creep billionaires arguing with each other on their respective social media platforms that they own. Like, this is stupid. Yeah. But it's incompatible. Yeah. You know, it feels like Trump is speed running Nero. You know, like he's doing all this stuff really fast. This asshole can't fiddle?
Starting point is 00:38:09 Well, I mean, he can watch things burn, though. That's true, but he doesn't have the skills. I don't know if Nero was that good, though. I think a lot of people said he was good to him, but maybe behind his back, they were like, The Emperor can't play. Right. We don't know that for sure.
Starting point is 00:38:25 We don't know that for sure. No. We could litigate this all day and talk about how his technique, whether he was a good fiddler. Look, there are things to remember. Like, Nero, great fiddler, not a good emperor. Hitler. Terrible painter.
Starting point is 00:38:40 You know, it all happens. Did, uh, do you think that if the. The devil went down to Rome. Mm-hmm. Do you think Nero would beat him in a fiddling contest and get that fiddle made of gold? I think the devil would take a knee and be like, hats off to you, buddy. But the devil only cares about your fiddling ability. That's true.
Starting point is 00:38:58 He doesn't care how evil you are in a fiddle contest. He doesn't care. He's the evilest of them all, naturally. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think he would kick his ass. The devil would win. I think the devil would kick his ass. The devil's really good at the fiddle.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Then by the transitive property, Johnny would beat Nero. I agree. Absolutely. There is zero doubt in my mind, Johnny would beat Nero. Okay. It's been settled. Yep. So Alex is clearly trying to be like Trump is cool.
Starting point is 00:39:22 He just overreacted a little bit. He got self-conscious. It happens to all of us. But there's still gaslighting that's going on from the intelligence agencies. Oh, well, I mean, yeah. We're trying to tell you like, hey, there's nothing to see here. Yeah, that does seem wrong. And you cannot go for that.
Starting point is 00:39:40 So everybody has seen this. and if we go along with the gaslighting and drink the Kool-Aid we are now aiding and abetting in the lie we're now aiding and abetting in this we're now becoming a cold and we are now by extension becoming accessories
Starting point is 00:40:00 after the fact in front of God, not under law but by saying none of this matters, none of this ever existed none of this ever happened we now, by extension, become part of that. And that's why it's the hill to die on. That's why I can't sit there and be part of this.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Now, I'm going to continue to support the good things Trump's doing. So Alex is sending a pretty clear message there, and that's he cares about fighting the devil, but not that much. He cares enough that he's not going to put on red makeup and carry around a pitchfork himself, because that's bad optics. But he doesn't care enough to denounce the person who he helped get elected, who buy his own mythology and metrics doing the bidding of the devil. This is pathetic because Alex cries on his show about how demons are all around him
Starting point is 00:40:48 and he's in a battle between good and evil. He does that to manipulate the audience into buying supplements. You can't do that and say that you're still going to support the good things Trump's doing while he's complicit with the devil in covering up a worldwide child trafficking and blackmail operation. You can't be the fire in brimstone guy and also the let's look for nuance guy. and when you try to be both it looks pretty dumb and that's what you're seeing here from Alex yeah it's just it's uh clashing outfits yeah yeah it's nice to have a big enough cult though where you can be like a christmas and easter guy you know like listen i don't go to
Starting point is 00:41:27 trump church every week but you know we we do it for the music on the day you know we do that we have a we have a little relationship there you know it's no big deal yeah if like uh there was deep hostility between the regular churchgoers and the Christmas and Easter churchgoers. I think that's the inevitable direction that this has to go. There is deep hostility, but it's well below the surface. Yeah. When the rest of us aren't in the way, that's who they're going after. The Christmas and Easter ones.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah. Yeah. Maybe there's a boiling resentment under the surface. Oh, yeah. But this is very surface. This is very surface. So Alex gets back to talking about Trump's truth social post. Sure.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And he's kicking around the tires of this thing. All right. And he's like, fuck, this could have worked. Trump could have, we, we should have just said that the Democrats destroyed all this. This is crooked Hillary. What the fuck? That's something I've said, but I made a big deal about it. So in the last week, though, I dropped the ball on this.
Starting point is 00:42:30 It's true. The FBI Comey, Leach of 2013, was controlling the Epstein file. they decided to go ahead and limitably bust Epstein the year after that so that they could put pressure on all the politicians and corporate leaders that have been involved in it
Starting point is 00:42:47 and Comey under Obama was going to now use that CIA file that they'd been gathering and, you know, garnering, going back. They were making Mossad share their file and Mossad from everything we know with Lex Wexler and Epstein was mainly a
Starting point is 00:43:06 MI6 Massad file. MI6 is the original Magdadi's of this, but besides close second, CIA, close third for my research. Sure. They came in and controlled that prosecution, made it limited, but used the fact that, hey, we got the file now, which it always had, but they had to have a way to come in in court. It's called parallel construction.
Starting point is 00:43:26 They already have the file. It's their file. They control it. But when they've done something illegal through a blackmail operation, they've now got to create a case to then investigate all the areas of it to bring in the pieces so it can be admissible in court. Compendix? All right. You're getting the real download here, the real deal.
Starting point is 00:43:46 The download, the download. So it is true that what they left in the Epstein case research investigation files, the videos, the documents, the interviews, the witnesses, the court cases, the depositions, all of it, is a deep state file because we've always said, oh, obviously the Democrats that were the main ones on this, some Republicans were involved as well,
Starting point is 00:44:13 but 90 plus percent Democrats as usual, the Clinton was all of them. They're not going to leave anything in the file that's discriminating for them. They're going to whitewash it, except they could leave in what they wanted in the file. And the files are FBI agents and U.S. attorneys and people with their opinion.
Starting point is 00:44:32 and reports, just like Crossfire Hurricane, based on the CIA-funded Steele dossier. So when Trump said that, it's true. And it hit me yesterday. I went, oh, my God. So I was about to go ahead and shoot a report and say, this is next level. Oh, my God. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:44:52 So I haven't come in conclusions here. I'm giving you my thought process. It's a dumb thought process. So this is entirely incompatible with the story that Alex has been telling up until this point. The Democrats didn't alter the Epstein documents to remove themselves and leave suspicious things about Trump in. Pam Bondi was supposed to have raided FBI offices and located houses full of evidence. What Alex is describing is his thought process.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And as much as that when he saw that post that Trump made, he realized he could have gone with that as the primary narrative and saved himself a lot of trouble. Alex has spent a lot of time saying that folks like Bongino and Patel should have just shut up and the only reason their actions are now, suspicious is because they said a bunch of crazy shit before he's now suffering from the same problem where he could probably pull off the democrats edited all the epstein files thing if he just shut up earlier but he's said too much up to this point it's a massive departure from where he was i this is what i was thinking the entire time this has been going on i've been thinking that larry nichols is spinning in his grave because the obvious thing to do is be like it's the clinton's yes the clinton's did it
Starting point is 00:46:02 they did all of it and then start screaming lock her up that's the obvious thing to do it's linda bloodworth thomas see there you go it's they've had their hands in it the whole time i found an unaired script of designing women that actually plays out exactly like what's happening on twitter right now that does sound true it's predictive programming here's my address man it's just right there it's just right there that's what that's the smart thing that hillary did is she went away for a little while but i think i think that Alex the reason he didn't do that is obviously that would not have worked like it feels like it would have worked now sure but in the moment there's
Starting point is 00:46:46 no way you're like we can pull this off this fucking illory i bet roger would think that i think i i mean they couldn't have done it it wouldn't be possible because of who these people are but i think if they had advanced time, advance warning, and they had an agreement on what they were going to say, if they all just screamed Bill Clinton at the same time, I think their base would have eaten it up enough. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Enough. Yeah. Enough. Yeah. So Alex was close when he saw this tweet and everything that's been happening. He was close to being like, fuck it. I'm going to war with Trump. Hell yeah. But then he realized that that post on truth social was right. So I was moving into the realm of just
Starting point is 00:47:28 because of a bunch of other bad stuff Trump just did that I'll get to in a moment of just saying I'm not declaring war yet because the Democrats are so evil but I've lost basic faith and beyond concern and now I hate to have to move my spotlight mainly on to Trump instead of the Democrats
Starting point is 00:47:45 are trying to kill him and enslave us but I'll get to the new stuff that really is upsetting in a moment but but but but that fact that i think i've got all the angles and i got way more than most people and i went everybody's blowing up at trump going this is ridiculous now this is a deep state lie it's it's their file it is their file whatever they decided to leave and stick in the file like
Starting point is 00:48:15 the warren commission total lie about what happened with jfk's assassination we don't know that now that's their file that's what they decided to leave and stick in the file that's what they decided decided to lead in there. And so that's really true. This is sad. Trump's truth social post didn't make Alex feel embarrassed to have ever supported Trump. It made him realize that there was a very easy conspiracy angle to this story that he had completely ignored.
Starting point is 00:48:40 If it's not obvious, the reason that Alex completely ignored the Democrats edited the Epstein Files angle is because it's ridiculous, and it wouldn't have flown. For one thing, it's super defensive in the audience wouldn't have gone for it. Trump's base runs off a lot of different resentments and grievances, but Alex's end of that media space has become almost entirely dependent on Satan-baiting listeners, mostly around Epstein-type conspiracies. It's too central to the mythology, and Alex's reason for existing, and if you said that the Democrats can just edit these files, then there's no possible, like, positive conclusion left that you can promise the audience is coming. Yeah. The justice you're supposed to be advocating toward is now impossible, and you've created an information war where the the information part doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Well, we've wasted everybody's time. Bye. Yeah, it's dumb and self-defeating. Yep. This is a narrative that you don't think of because it wouldn't work, but then when you've gone down these really dumb roads that also don't work, you think of this and imagine like, fuck, it would have worked if I would have just done that from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Some other pathway. Any other pathway would have been late. Yeah. It's less that this is actually a good narrative, and it's more a reflection of how it's simple compared to the over-complicated version of things that Alex's saddle himself with. Like the stuff that he's trying to pull off is so nonsensical. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:57 This is like, well, I could explain this to a child. But see, that's the thing about it is that that's when it becomes nonsensical. All the other stuff started off very simple too. And then you have to argue about it. And then you go, oh, well, that doesn't make sense. Oh, well, that doesn't make sense. In the same way, this one would have started out great. Look, this is so defensible.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And then somebody asked a question and you're like, well, what if? And then it all falls apart. It has to get more and more complicated every time because it just doesn't, it's not real. We're at the result. We're at the dividing line between is and is not. There's no middle ground here. It is or it isn't.
Starting point is 00:50:36 We can't fight anymore. Yeah. So Alex, you heard him say that he has some other complaints about Trump. Yeah. And I'll just spoil that. And it's that he's not against fluoride enough. He's too good? No.
Starting point is 00:50:48 He's not going to ban fluoride. And I think that's a really bad sign that he's trying to make that something that anyone really cares about. Do you remember when Obama wore that tan suit? It was a scandal. It was a scandal. So, like, I just think that there is this indication that he's trying to shift the negative attention that's coming towards Trump to things like, yeah, attack him over fluoride. Right. That one doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Right, right, right. Let's do that. Right. It's never going to ban fluoride in the water that's never going to happen. So let's direct our attention there. This one sucks. Yeah. The Epstein stuff sucks, and he's vulnerable there.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Fluoride's cool. And I think that there's a crassness to what Alex is doing. And I think you can see it in moments like this. And I told you last Monday, I said, this can lose the House representatives because people know about Epstein. They know about the cover-up. They know about the Clintons. They know about Obama and Pizza Gate.
Starting point is 00:51:48 And they know about John Penneston. and the kids get delivered to the, you know, woodland cabin and hot tub for his enjoyment and his brother promoting pedophilia openly in the Washington Post in 2007 saying, what's a big deal? Showing all this horrible peto art of kids being tortured and stuff, toddlers.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I mean, you know, we know this is the deep state operating system. And so for the cheerleaders out there that jumped on me and others last week, And said, Trump can do the wrong wrong. Shut up. It's 50,000 trillion DHS. At first, oh, no, no, Trump's not behind it. Bonnie's over a ski.
Starting point is 00:52:30 She's an idiot. Then Trump's not, no, I'm behind you. I mean, that's completely obvious. He admits it now. You know, behind saying shut it down. So that's where we are. It's where we are. Why does he care about the house?
Starting point is 00:52:49 Like, if you're accepting any of this stuff as being, like, what your main priority is. Right. Why are you worried about Trump's, like, really shitty response to this threatening elections? That's not what Alex is supposed to be about. He's not supposed to be an electoral politics guy. No, this isn't a team sport. This isn't supposed to be a team sport. This is supposed to be, well, I mean, you know, good versus evil.
Starting point is 00:53:15 But good versus evil isn't your earthly teams. Yeah. That kind of thing. Yeah. It's just a strong indication of how incompatible, like, his behavior is with his ideology and how much he's lost his way in chasing this proximity to power or whatever it is. And it's sad. I mean, I'm sure for a narcissist, it's the most addicting thing you could possibly have is, like,
Starting point is 00:53:41 look at how important I am the president of the United States is talking to me. You know, that's got to be huge. Well, I mean, also God. sure well yeah yeah i mean obviously the the imaginary one is there but the one that you can hang your hat on is the real one yeah but is trump really talking to alex that's a that's a whole other set of questions roger is and i'm sure he's making a lot of excuses for why trump isn't i bet he is yeah so uh i didn't make this clear earlier but alex isn't just staying home from work he's on some kind of vacation he's sending these videos in that he's shot on his iPhone ridiculous
Starting point is 00:54:16 he took thursday and friday off and he said that he was going to be back on Monday, but Monday rolls around and Owen is hosting again. Oh, no one. And Alex might have been able to take the whole day off, but this whole Epstein mess just keeps getting worse. In the last hour of the show, Alex pops up for a special report, and I think that it's some grim stuff. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I'm doing what I have to do. My Integrity's King. We're eight, nine days into this whole Epstein attempted gas sliding. by the DOJ cover-up exploding and endangers the entire Trump administration and by extension of America and Western civilization and by extension of the entire world.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I want Trump to succeed desperately. I support 95% of what Trump's doing. I think he's a great man. From all of research, he's not connected to Epstein, any illegal activities. But all the 180s and all the flip-flopping that we've seen has blown this into a new level of stricant effect.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Now, yesterday, it came out in the corporate, press, that Gisland Maxwell and federal prison for human trafficking, Epstein's accomplice, the homicide operative, MI6 as well, that she's ready to release the list, and you know, she's brought her case to Supreme Court
Starting point is 00:55:33 and all the rest of this. Number one, I don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth. She is on record of human trafficker, and you don't take somebody that's in prison and then take what they have to say later. So, yeah, I'm defending Trump right there. But you look at this headline,
Starting point is 00:55:49 The deep state is attempting to blackmail Trump. It doesn't mean they've got something, but they have had control, like Trump said, the Democrats of the file. They took out whatever they wanted and added whatever they wanted into it. So that's true. So a bunch of people are pissed off on me at one side saying, look, you're defending Trump when he said on social two days ago that they've had the file just like rushing it or anything. They falsify stuff you can't believe it. That's a real issue. They could have done that.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I don't know they did that. wargaming every angle of this. I'm just talking shit. There's only one angle that you're not war gaming, though. And that one's fairly glaring because that war game is about as simple as it gets. Yeah. It's called declaring war. So on July 14th, it was reported that Galane Maxwell had filed an appeal to the Supreme Court to get her conviction overturned,
Starting point is 00:56:41 and she was trying to put feelers out to the DOJ looking to talk shop. This immediately got people worried, because when she went to jail, Trump said he, wished her well, which was strange. Add to that, Trump's propensity to pardon people who do him favors, and you could easily see a pretty messy storm brewing. Well, I mean, at least she wasn't moved to a lesser security prison. That hasn't happened yet. Alex doesn't know that yet.
Starting point is 00:57:07 She hasn't met multiple times with a deal. No, I mean, listen, it's probably fine. It's probably fine. What's fascinating about Alex's take on this story is that he's trying to discredit Maxwell in advance of the possibility. that she would say something bad about Trump. He says you can't trust her because he thinks the deep state is trying to offer her a deal to attack Trump,
Starting point is 00:57:27 whereas the reality seems much more likely that she could get a pardon from Trump by exonerating Trump. Yeah. Everyone has seen what happened with Roger and the January 6th crowd. Like, this isn't hard to understand as a game. Oh, I mean, you know, just because you've done something multiple times and it's worked every time doesn't mean you think it's a smart idea to keep doing it.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Nah. The overwhelming sense, you get from Alex here on this report that he's doing is that his audience is not into what he did on Sunday trying to carry water for Trump's narrative that the Democrats edited the documents. This is the Russia hoax
Starting point is 00:58:01 all over again. Oh man. Alex floated that. No one's buying it and now he's trying to walk it back doing the I was just war gaming act. It's very sad and I think the sort of whiplash that you get from these two days is
Starting point is 00:58:16 crazy. What amazing What amazes me is that I have not seen them pay attention to anything for this long, maybe in my entire life. All of these people are continuing to pay attention to the same thing. They have to. They have to, which is, which is amazing because I kind of didn't ever believe they would have to. Yeah. You know, like I never really thought we would get to a point where they would have to, like, look into a mirror. So this is wild, man.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah, but from my experience, I think that people have, like, Alex has paid attention to things for longer earlier in his career. Sure. Like, you know, we watched the Boston bombing coverage. Right. And stuff. And that went on pretty continuously. You know, there are instances of that, but a lot of that is before social media took over everything and his brain. Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Like, it's such an anomaly now that something has, like, uh, like traction. yeah like a sticking thing that he just can't get past yep um and i think i think you're right that the reason is because the glaring one thing he won't entertain yep is that like it's so obvious that there's just one conclusion that's unacceptable right right because if you weren't the guy that you're saying that you are right then you could at least entertain the possible like look obama fucked a child oh no what would we do we would say go to prison forever fuck you right that would be easy it'd be easy but he can't say it no can't do it he's a good man this is a good man ugh uh because god told him that and if
Starting point is 00:59:58 trump isn't then god didn't tell him that or alex is lying about what god told him or god's lying to alex and that's a mess yeah it does feel like this is one thread upon which the entire world will collapse it it it's you know like uh loki that show with a tree and shit you know i've seen pictures it's the it's the show with the tree and shit yeah so uh Alex is not he's not gonna do much on this episode uh he's just filming a little report sure he'd seen benny johnson and he'd seen glen beck and they're talking some shit and he like some of the shit they're talking sure like Glenn Beck is like hey man we're gonna lose our souls if we go along with this bullshit that is how it works yes
Starting point is 01:00:42 so Alex's like i like i like what Beck is doing here and then what Lynn Beck said. He said, listen, we can't lose our soul over this. Yeah, we get Trump's doing a lot of good, but we know this is all there. We know that there was blackmail. We know there were intelligence agencies. We know this video of him from around the corner doesn't show that he didn't kill himself. We know this. So you're insulting our intelligence. And then imply we want child porn released, as Bonnie and others have done. It's just, it's just totally outrageous. So that's where I am on this right now. And I'll play the Beck clip, or Postal Black clip here as well. But then you've got Charlie Kirk who I think it's a great guy and so much that your Republican voters on. I love him. He's like, I trust Trump. I trust the administration. I'm not asking any more questions. And I'm not talking about EPSC anymore.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Well, that's the message I reported last week. The Carl Serafin, I got reports myself from people, but he also had his reports and some public reports of major talk show hosts, influencers, getting calls saying your access can be caught off with the White House, Susie Wildstuff, if you don't stop. And the FBI calling people. well that's a cover-up so we don't want to be aiding the Democrats here but we're not in a cult like Democrats that go along with corruption yeah that would be nice
Starting point is 01:01:53 Charlie Kirk has been threatened by the government to shut up and he's going along with it that's weird you also might notice that Alex a couple days earlier had talked about people who were saying that Trump
Starting point is 01:02:09 has said that there's nothing here we got to move along they were agents of Israel and Massad. They worked for Netanyahu and all this stuff because they were Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro. Right. Charlie Kirk is now doing the exact same thing.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Sure. And that's not the story for him. And there's a reason. I don't understand. What could be the difference? Yeah. Strange. Anyway, I think that Alex is in a place where he's like,
Starting point is 01:02:35 this shit, this fucking shit. I can't do this. The audience was not happy about me trying to smooth over on Sunday and fuck I think you might have to declare war it might it might just be happening I mean if he pardons Maxwell what the fuck are we doing the only way to prove you're not in a cult is to leave true that's the oh there's only one way yep so yep there you go and sometimes that what doesn't even prove it doesn't always help yeah but anyway the jury's out on Trump yeah you'll never know I'm going to believe in Trump, and the jury's out right now, but this is a fiasco of fiascos.
Starting point is 01:03:18 So, no, I'm not going to shut up. I'm not going to stop asking questions. And I wish Trump would stop telling people to stop asking questions. Do you know how this project works? I mean, I hate to be giving you advice how to cover something up. I don't even want to do that, but it's like, what are you doing? they say who the gods would destroy they first make mad and as our founders said we can never be overtaken from outsiders we have to destroy ourselves from within and i know the democrats are pure able and i just need trump not to behave like he is that's my report good report um not good no this is a man who is like he's so clearly like you guys are are not doing what we need to play this game.
Starting point is 01:04:14 You're not doing your role. Trump, fuck. Come on, man. I mean, let's, let's, again, this makes sense to all of them within their structure, right? But in the real world, right, we are watching a man with all the bombs, get into a slap fight with a man with all the money. Mm-hmm. And that's it. You mean Trump and Musk.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Yeah. We're not watching like a conflict play out. We're not watching an ideological battle. We're not watching a physical conflict. We're not watching anything but two giant babies whine at each other. And then we have to pick up all the pieces. And in the process of doing that, these people have revealed insane things to the rest of us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:59 And those two giant rich babies have, you know, accrued power and influence by promising people various things. Trump promising a white. nationalist utopia and all of your jobs back and all of this shit and Musk a techno utopia of, you know. Also white nationalists. Sure.
Starting point is 01:05:20 But with an on-off switch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, with a nice little twist to it. Yeah. LED lights in your head and stuff. Yeah, a little sci-fi twist on it. Yeah. So, like, they've both done this and people have fallen for it and we've ended up in a position now where we're trying to intellectualize it
Starting point is 01:05:36 so much. Yeah. Because otherwise, we have to admit that a large portion of the population just will go along with that. Yep. And that's gross. Well, America's a con. Hey. Yep. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Yeah, I mean, no. I got nothing. So, Alex, he's in a position where this has been a fucking mess. Yeah. You know, there is, obviously, the FBI memo comes out. There's the attempt to deal with it. Trump made a deal. Blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Things get a bit more anti-Semitic. We blame Israel. I don't know. Maybe deep state? Deeper state. No, no. Don't you get it? It's cool.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Now Trump is blackmailing heads of state with their pedophile material. It's fine. He's the good guy. Yeah. Yeah. What would you do? What would you do? So there's just been a all over the place attempt to,
Starting point is 01:06:36 war game, in heavy quotes, an explanation for how Trump can still be good and these things be happening. Right. When he's there on that Monday, when he's putting in this special report, it really does feel a little bit like, I'm done. Fuck this. Because he says, I have to do what I have to do. You got to do what you got to do is usually a not good statement.
Starting point is 01:06:57 He's supporting Glenn Beck coming out with a message of like, yes, I like Trump deporting people, but we are going to lose our mortal soul. Right. If we continue to support him when he's very obviously working with the devil. I mean, it's impossible to say otherwise. So then Alex comes back on the 15th. Puked and rallied? You bet.
Starting point is 01:07:20 He saw something on Twitter and hope springs eternal. All right. So much to hit. We have some really good news. Last night, I saw the Benny Johnson interview with Laura Trump, who's one of the smartest people in the administration,
Starting point is 01:07:37 and the head of the RNC, and she said, no, we're looking to appoint a special counsel, or she said the feds are looking to, and Trump wants to reopen it, he understands the public concerns. People said, wow, could this be true? Of course it's true. She's like the mouthpiece of Trump. And so this morning, I made a few phone calls, and they said, yes, the decision is basically been made, but it's being developed right now, but look.
Starting point is 01:08:03 for a special counsel to be appointed as early as some time this week. So that was like a million pound weight off my back last night because I knew Laura Trump's not full of crap. We don't spend enough time discussing how nakedly corrupt it is that Laura Trump
Starting point is 01:08:18 is the head of the RNC. What are we going to do? It's low on the list, but it's pretty brazen. Yep. So Laura Trump has come out, I guess, and said that there's going to be a special counsel appointed by Trump
Starting point is 01:08:28 to look into the Epstein stuff and not a moment too soon. Shit was getting hot in the kitchen for the Trump media, and this is exactly what they need to take the edge off. Alex is saying a hundred pound weight is off his chest. Independent investigation. Great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:42 We can spin all kinds of yarns about that. Totally. It'll take years. Does it matter if it's actually independent? Nope, because by the time you can prove it, we'll be way gone. And if there is, like, a independent investigation that's going on, someone's going to tell Trump to shut up. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:08:58 One of these lawyers in the White House is going to be like. They'll finally get involved. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, two days after this, the White House press secretary was asked if Trump was going to do this. Oh. And she said, quote, the president would not recommend a special counsel in the Epstein case. Huh. That's how he feels.
Starting point is 01:09:15 So I guess Alex's sources were all wrong or fake. And it's really sad to see him get his hopes up like this. It's exactly what he needs. And he's just like, gobble, gobble, couple, couple. I'll take it. I don't know what their internal, like, here's what I think. Okay. you know how like publications have a style guide you know like if you work for the times you
Starting point is 01:09:36 gotta have to write like this this is what you kind of sound like because the times sounds like this right i don't know what the the time for lying is what are the style guidelines for lying because sometimes it feels like they are fine with just lying straight to your face and then sometimes it's like you could have said trump is thinking about it and then move on you mean like the what like the press secretary yeah yeah why is she saying trump's not into this. Sometimes you are very clearly lying with a smile on your face, like, ah, we're probably not going to do anything bad. Like, you're lying. So, but why not choose this time to be like, oh, he's thinking real hard about it? And I think he's going to pull the trigger
Starting point is 01:10:13 sometime, you know? I would imagine, you know, it's a little bit of an art. And I think that you probably intuit a bunch of it off of what Trump is saying. Right. Which is the wrong thing. If she's saying that in response to a question, then he's probably, like no fucking way so privately he's probably pretty clear about like this is not going to happen yeah I'm totally against this yeah
Starting point is 01:10:40 and she's delivering like a watered down version right just lie maybe Trump wanted her to say that though which is another crazy thing about these people insane insane maybe maybe who knows I mean his mind might think like
Starting point is 01:10:55 if I say it's possible and then I don't deliver on that That's going to be worse than me just saying, no, we're not doing this. You're going day by day, buddy. Anything that gets you tomorrow, you know? Yeah, yeah. So anyway, pressure's off. Yeah, it's good to know that this will probably go away now.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Totally cool. I think on the 15th, we're fine. I'm glad that we're past it. I'm glad we're past it. It's like a dark storm, you know? I'm glad we're past it. We can clear skies ahead. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:27 And now that the sun has come up, the morning is broken. And Alex can sit and reflect about how, like, you know what, he just overreacted to Elon's tweet. I think that's going to work. I think we'll stick with that. There you go. That's really all this was. Yeah. We know from the different criminal indictments and investigations and lawsuits, basically what's in there and who's involved.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And there's no Trump. So why is he doing that? Well, because Elon came out and said he'd been told by people that Trump was somehow implicated. now is that manipulation by people giving Elon bad information or is Elon super sophisticated and set a trap for Trump? I'm not saying that. I'm speculating. I don't believe that. Regardless, you can see this being teed up. And indeed it was, but you've got the King of England wanting it shut down.
Starting point is 01:12:22 You've got all these other world leaders wanting to shut down. Trump could kill it and then get a lot of political. cachet with those groups. That's the type of advice that Susie Wiles, the White House chief of staff, we know, has been giving Trump. And I'm not trying to villainize her. That's very avant-garde.
Starting point is 01:12:41 That's the trendy thing to do, very avant-garde. No, but it is Susie Wiles because she's a big politico that has a foot in the Democratic Party and a foot the Republican party. So avant-garde. Yeah, so we're going to blame Susie Wiles on this one. I think he's just, I think,
Starting point is 01:13:00 Sometimes you've got a bucket of things that you want to say. And sometimes you just pull out the wrong one. But then you've got avant-garde, so you've got to stick with it. Just fine, it's avant-garde. Yeah. It's very expressionistic to blame Susie Wiles. It's a very interpretive dance. So we can see one piece here that Alex definitely wants to keep of the stories that he stumbled into.
Starting point is 01:13:22 And that is that Trump got hurt, his feelings got hurt by Elon's tweet. So he squashed the Epstein investigation to protect himself. And now everything's unraveling. because Trump listened to bad advice. Yeah. He wasn't covering up his involvement with Epstein in any crimes or anything. Yeah. He just wanted to get the stink of Elon's tweet off him.
Starting point is 01:13:40 You know? It's understandable. It's human. Here's the thing. Here's the thing about this that really fucking bothers me, right? Because we all know that political leaders on some form or function are going to do evil things. Like throwing a bomb at somebody is evil. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:13:58 We allow that kind of shit to happen. Uh, right? And this is horribly fucked up. To me, as far as a leader of the, of a government is concerned, I would rather have an evil, like, monster leader than one who suddenly does things because his feelings are hurt. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Like, I would want to, like, okay, you're evil. But at least I know you know what you're doing. Sure. And, and I know that this is a really awful thing and a lot of people hide behind it. So I don't want to say, like, this is an excuse. But a lot of times geopolitical conflicts can be abstracted out to, like, it's in our national interests to do X, Y, or Z. There you go.
Starting point is 01:14:42 And monstrous things get slid under the rug and people, you know. It's not so monstrous because what could happen is even more monstrous. Yeah, the whole thing. And there's really no version of that for, like, my petty feelings were hurt. Yeah. We are now, like, in the thrall of this person's emotions. Yeah. As opposed to what we could intellectualize as, like, national interest.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Hundreds of millions of lives depend on this in some way. Yeah. Whether it be improving or deep, you know, like making them more any number of different things. This is literally a guy's feelings are hurt, so he's going to fuck up everybody. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe, I also think that, you know, while we're on the subject, maybe the idea of those things being swept under the rug for national interest in quotes.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Maybe that's something that deserves to be re-evaluated. Of course. But it is still different. I want to evaluate adult things. I want to evaluate adult things so bad, but we've got a baby in the way. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought it was very interesting what Alex is up to here because he's typically been pretty
Starting point is 01:15:48 positive about Susie Wiles. But the more overtly Nazi side of the right-wing media really hates her. Nick Fuentes called her, quote, anti-white scum. after she said, quote, for every Karen we lose, we're going to win a Jamal and Enrique. She was a central target of Nick's Groyper War last September, partially because she's been supportive of the Israeli government and is alleged to have helped Netanyahu's 2020 campaign. Great.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I'm not sure where Nick stands on the issue of her dad being a legendary sports broadcaster, Pat Summerall. What? But it's an interesting piece of trivia. That is an interesting piece of trivia. Turning on Susie Wiles is a subtle but telling. signal about where Alex's winds are blowing and who he's kind of buddying up to. So when he says that it's avant-garde, it's
Starting point is 01:16:36 obviously a stupid use of a word, but what he means is like the Nazi kids are on this tip. This is what the cool kids are doing like Nick. And it's avant-garde to be anti-Suzzi Wilde. I think growing up, because I didn't know much, because I didn't know much about the man or his life, if somebody had said like, oh, John Madden should be president he'd be better than most of the presents we've ever had i would be like come on he's a broadcaster yeah yeah yeah john madden would have been one of the best presents we've ever had without a question in my mind he would have been great do you remember when you mixed up uh john
Starting point is 01:17:12 madden's catchphrase with emerald legossi's i do bam bam tough actin ten acton so so so look alex he hasn't picked sides and that's what really makes him so great it is and then Alex, he's talking about that, and then he starts talking about how Trump has been chewing his own foot off. People go, wait a minute, you were just attacking Trump, and now you're defending him. What is this? Well, I don't pick a side here
Starting point is 01:17:39 as the investigation goes on, our own investigation, your investigation, we call balls and strikes. Error. But it's basically what I said, a week ago, or over a week ago. Because this is how these people operate. But the answer to
Starting point is 01:17:55 that is, 17. There's a lot of stuff in criminal investigations and other indictments that they weren't able to hide. Let them put out their report that's got some fake Jane Doe thing in it or some FBI report. And then let it all be run to ground. And just like Russia gate, it's fake. And then you go ahead and you indict all the big globalists that are clearly involved. If you say, no, sir, the easiest thing is just to shut this down. No, you've now walked into their treasurer.
Starting point is 01:18:27 trap. So I'm like, Trump, it's a bear trap. Don't walk into it two months ago. Oh, you're getting close. You have your surrogates out on TV. You know, saying, move along. Nothing to see here. Bongino and Patel looking like during the headlights. They've obviously been ordered by you to do this. Or by Susie Wiles, stop. Don't step in it. No, no. Boom!
Starting point is 01:18:46 On the leg. And now I'm like, now listen, Trump, if you keep doubling down as equivalent to chewing your leg off, you'll bleed to death politically. We can help you. All of us together can get that bear clamp off your leg. bandage it up, get you to a doctor, and you're going to be all right. And Trump's sitting there with his leg in a bear trap. Or sir, just be calm here, please. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Don't start chewing on your leg, all righty. Hold on. You're chewing on your leg. Oh, see, that's not good. So that's the analogy here. Trump sounds like an idiot in Alex's mind. It sounds like Alex kind of hates this guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:25 He's too stupid to know that he's chewing off his. own leg. Like, I think that Alex is, there's an infantilization that he has and also like a, hey, we're the propaganda guys. This is what we exist for. Stop it. You're making our job harder. And I just, he seems mad. It's, it is a resentment. It feels like the, it feels like they know somehow this guy is magic. He makes the things they want to happen, happen. Right? But also, he's a fucking idiot. So we have to make the things that we want to happen happen. The magic has to happen.
Starting point is 01:20:04 But the only way the magic can happen is if we all pretend he's not a fucking idiot, which is great. It's great. Yeah. Except when he steps in these bear traps and he starts chewing on his foot. Yeah, boy, that one's tough. That's a glare. Like if you're holding, if you're watching Weekend at Bernies,
Starting point is 01:20:25 Bernie's not even falling into that. you know and he's dead maybe weekend of Bernie's two oh well he's definitely well because he can walk right yeah yeah that's the big difference that is the big difference little known fact that's the big difference there really isn't much else honestly so look man bear trap uh Alex is like I got this Trump's like no I want to chew yeah and then uh Alex is like no dude come on I got this uh and thankfully Trump's listened and everything is all right now great and now and now Trump's sitting there with this leg in it. And now they're getting ready to announce a special counsel and the bear trap point.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Click, click, click. Bear trap, you have to click, click, click, click, click all these springs. Thanks for the details. It's going to click one click. Like, does that feel better? Now, a couple more clicks. We can get your foot out of there. Click, click, click.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Ah, yes, let's avoid the enemy traps. That's what I'm trying to do. That's the tone of voice you use with an equal. So we've been vindicated again. Everything we said has come true, exactly like I said it would. And all the mainline influencers and Republican minions that Jones is a traitor, he's an enemy. He needs to be, you know, shut down, put in jail. You're amateurs.
Starting point is 01:21:50 And you just take established talking points and parrot them. You have no integrity. You don't know what you're doing. Not like me. I have decided that Laura Trump talking some shit means that a special counsel investigation is open and we're out of the woods and Trump's foot is out of this trap. I like it. I like that. You are unmatured.
Starting point is 01:22:08 You are fucking stupid. If you just say it, it's true. Yeah. I mean, you know, we talk about this a bit that like this show is largely about his feelings. Yeah. And you can tell this ride that he's been on. Yeah. There's a lot of relief, but also resentment.
Starting point is 01:22:25 that here on this 15th. It is such a strange way to view the time that we live in because it is like watching the only member of the media who truly has no ability to control these things. Watch the only politician who truly has no ability to control these things. And everybody around them enables them in the exact same ways. It's fascinating. Yeah. There are other people who operate on.
Starting point is 01:22:55 like some kind of a my emotions or dictating stuff in right wing media yeah but none of them as rich and um sort of positioned as Alex yeah and yeah there's no one else who has the same vibe as Trump in that way that like we're all beholden to your moods yep yeah that's that's fascinating and we just have to wake up and that is the day he's mad at people today so we just have to do that and then tomorrow we will do something else i was going to declare war on trump but then that trope social post looked pretty good so i'm going to run with that oh oh my audience doesn't like it glenbeck is right we're losing our soul oh wait there's a special council investigation everything is fine trump's out of the bear trap great this is insane this is
Starting point is 01:23:45 not good oh man so anyway alex yells about how qanonon people are stupid yeah it's about time is downstream from the grass roots. We are the opposite of AstroTurf. We are the people in the Declaration of Independence. We the people. We work in the farms and the factories and drive the 18 wheelers. We raise the children. We praise God.
Starting point is 01:24:16 We fight in the military. We are the people. We are the plan. And when Trump deviates from that and starts doing something that's the opposite of what he said he would do because the special interest every time manipulating because he's so busy, we're going to go expose those special interests, we're not going to trust a plan and not engage when we see Trump taking a misstep. It's like painting your windshield black, so you can't even see out of your car while you're driving.
Starting point is 01:24:47 That's the reality. and boy have we been proven or not again so now a special counsel you can say well that'll be fraud whatever the point is it's not whoever was advising Trump to walk right into this Democrat deep state trap and say oh let's just move on
Starting point is 01:25:08 you know stop it oh no it's not Trump it's Pam Bondi get rid of her she missed up no it's Trump I told you last Monday and of course you learned the next few days it was right over and over and over and over over and over again, because this is what I do. This is what my team does. It's what my guests do. It's what my sources do.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Do you have any idea who've been on the phone with this morning? No, you don't. Roger? So, like, at the beginning of that, I guess I didn't include in the clip, the part where he specifically brings up Q and on, but he's ranting about. Trust the plan.
Starting point is 01:25:38 No, I saw it. Yeah. So I love the part there where he's like, I'm vindicated by this thing that is not true. Laura Trump said that there's going to, be a special counsel and then Trump said nah these has been vindicated this is what I do this is what I do full time I say that it and maybe I'm maybe I'm just taking a negative point of view on it but I think it might be cheating to be vindicated be vindicated before something happens I think I've
Starting point is 01:26:08 I view vindicated as a post script you know what I'm saying like I said this thing would happen and then it did happen then I have been vindicated not like a little probable happen i've been vindicated yeah but someone tweeted about laura trump saying this thing so that did happen vindicated right i'm vindicated yeah we're posted that tweet so vindicated somebody tweeted so look trump's had a tough time this has been a rough week yeah but the fever has broken thank god yeah everything is fine now yep trump is back to his senses and everybody who's saying that like he's gonna stick to his guns on this and be like hey all of you people who care about epstein i don't want you as my followers anymore.
Starting point is 01:26:49 That's fake news. That's bullshit. And they're reporting MAGA starts to move on from Epstein drama as Trump digs in. That's old news from yesterday. That's not true. The Democrats hope Trump, quote, moves on with the cover up because it'll be so devastating. And Steve Bannon said he could lose up to 40 seats in the House in the midterms. And you see Laura Ingram and Tucker Carlson at TPUSA.
Starting point is 01:27:17 and turning point events, and they say, how many of you want Trump to not release the Epstein information? Boo, not a bus, no, no. How many of you want him to release it? Ah, yay! Just people want the truth. Yeah, so, hey, everything's good. Everything's good now.
Starting point is 01:27:46 We're cool. Anybody who says that Trump is, you know, hours away from tweeting that his followers who care about Epstein are losers and should shut the fuck up and go support someone else, they're liars. And they don't know what they're talking about because Alex knows everything. Yeah. And he's seen crowds cheer and boo. So he knows. I mean, he's seen a tweet about Laura Trump suggesting that there's going to be a special counsel. So everything is fine.
Starting point is 01:28:15 There are worse polling methods than everybody wants this and nobody wants not this. That's true, although it's clearly not indicative of what Trump is going to do. No, that does seem to be an issue with democracy. It feels very non-representative. Thank God, though, that everything is fine. Boy. Rime and Reason have returned. Alex has proven right once again.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Everything is cool. Moved on. But going back to what you just saw from. Trump a year ago on Epstein on Lex Friedman's show and on that Fox program where on national news they put out the clip I'll release it on the internet on Fox Nation they put up the full clip where he says except I won't release it all there's a lot of innocent people been mixed in by the intelligence agencies that's how they do it now he put a true social out Sunday saying Brennan and Clapper were in control of this people go oh my God it's even
Starting point is 01:29:11 bigger cover up now he claims the files from them it is if they were in control but they're not going to leave the bad stuff about them in there. People go, well, I'm confused. You're saying Trump made a bad decision covering this up, and now you're admitting it's a fraud. Well, yeah, you don't cover up the fraud because then that makes you a part of it. You go to war with it.
Starting point is 01:29:32 And Trump now gets that, so just watch, I'll be right again. This is really good news. And, of course, liberal media's like, Jones was against Trump on this, but now he's spending it, wanting to believe something good. No, I've experienced the Democrats falsifying files on me over and over again. In Congress, you name it. They're famous for it.
Starting point is 01:29:48 My goodness. Do you not remember all of this? Famous by who? I just report the facts that we know are the most accurate. As we get more information, we'll add to it. But in general, we're pretty much always right. Now, we're going to go to break. These just came in to the Arkansas facility.
Starting point is 01:30:14 and they're engraved there with the Info Wars and the Alex Jones on them. This is a new limited edition dagger. He's got a dagger. He's got a dagger. New Info Wars dagger and it's good for stab it. Man, a dagger is such a great thing to have in this exact moment, perhaps in the aides of a month.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Yeah, they might end up somewhere. Someone's back. Um, yeah, I think that it is a great product. Hey, I mean, when he went to an ad, I was like, of course he's going to an ad. Yeah. But then I was not prepared for, we got daggers. We got daggers, baby. Daggers are in stock.
Starting point is 01:30:59 So that's cool. That's really, that's definitely cool. And I'm glad that he's so confident that he will be proven right and that everything is totally fine now. You know, sometimes, sometimes I feel crazy because I don't understand what these people want. I have no idea. They want to sell daggers. You know, no, well, I mean, the conservatives who Alex is talking to and the people who are being gaslit in this way, like all of us. But they get stuff and they are fine with it, right?
Starting point is 01:31:26 But in this one instance, I know what they want and the other people don't. They want some heads. That's what they want. They want some heads. It doesn't matter if they, like, give them a few heads, put them on trial. In four years, say there was a technicab, blah, blah, blah, everybody will be fine. It'll cost a lot of money. but these people are going to get heads that's what they want that's that is what a lot of people
Starting point is 01:31:48 want yeah Alex wants heads or he wants to at least be like yeah heads exactly but then he also wants to maintain Trump right as as a source of power as a source of institutional power right because that's all he's known everything that he's grown up with uh the whole world is it is about that the proximity to that um and so Alex I think the relief that he feels and that he's expressing is like, fuck, we found a way that it feels like we can give some heads. Yep. And we can keep Trump in power.
Starting point is 01:32:24 He was trying to figure out what's the line? How do we walk this? How do we promise death and not be like, well, we got to throw Trump to him? Right. Right. And I think that he feels like he's found that. And he has not. Nope.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Nope. Trump's got to do it. Trump is the only one who can say, here are the heads you've asked for. get to keep mine that's but he's not going to because that would be admitting that he has to give them something which he doesn't have to do no he's not going to have to give anybody fucking anything no yeah he'll give alex chase his head absolutely art of the deal yep yep that's exactly it he'll cut his head off with one of these daggers oh my god i love that so the dagger how good is the dagger it's so good i bet it's good yeah i bet it's a good dagger i bet it's a good
Starting point is 01:33:08 Alex spends a bit of time talking about how easily you can click it in and out of the little sheath. Oh, okay. Is it one of the, it's not like a, it's not like an Assassin's dagger, like from the Prince of Persia. Oh, God, that'd be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Risk, yeah, yeah. Get that ring finger out of here. Um, no, I, you know what, I have to tell you the God's honest truth. I didn't watch this episode, so I don't have a visual on this dagger. Yeah, that's fair. But I, I love to imagine what it could be. I think it's probably just like a Bowie knife.
Starting point is 01:33:38 I see so many, like, Skyrim daggers. Like, I see all kinds of stuff in my head right now. We've got fun things going on. I think you should be thinking more boring murder dagger. Anyway, Alex is plugging this dagger. Yeah. And we've one last clip here because he really clearly stops himself from saying Info Wars store. It's great in your purse, backpacker on your side.
Starting point is 01:34:05 You can also skin a buck and run a trot line with it. Get yours now. limited edition at the Alex show store.com and fund the Second American Revolution worldwide. The limited edition, Alex Jones, Caesar, Battledagger. Now available, Info Wars.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Need your support. Now, the Alpshoor. You could not be more clear about you're about to say InfoWarsstore.com, but you remember, I don't get any money from that. That needs to be, it's an entire animated movie of his brain
Starting point is 01:34:36 flying that plane. and the plane going down just pull up pull up that pause is there's so much in it's an eternity now beyond that i want to say one thing yeah and that Alex is a it's a he's a country poser yeah he's trying to sell this knife by saying you can use it to skin a buck and run a trot line but a trot line's a fishing setup that mostly involves tying knots yeah he just says those two examples whenever he wants to sound like he's a hailbelly because they're from hank williams junior song a country boy can survive. Like, this is a guy who's wearing an outfit. He's a poser. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it would be like me trying to say that I grew up on a farm because I sang Toby Keith at
Starting point is 01:35:18 karaoke. This is, this is bullshit. It's, it is, you know, it is just one of those, like, if something works, people keep doing it. Like, when you see people doing something, they're doing it because it makes sense to them because it works over time. Like, why wouldn't you pose? Everything he does is opposed. And it's always been more successful than trying to be himself. Because he's a piece of shit. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 01:35:46 So there's more to this episode, but I thought that this would be a good breaking off point. Yeah. Because Alex seems to be in good spirits. Yeah, absolutely. Generally speaking, he's a little bit pissed off that Trump's so dumb he's chewing his foot off. Sure. But he's relieved that, like, the weight on his chest has been taken off by this special counsel. Announcement.
Starting point is 01:36:08 And right around the corner is Trump tweeting, get lost losers. So when the fellowship, right, they made it to the minds of Moria and that we got the whole speak friend of enter thing. And then the monster's coming out and it forces them, chases them inside the mind of Moria. And they're like, ah, man, so good we're not being chased by that monster. The minds of Moria slightly more threatening. This is the act break is what I'm saying. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:35 This is where we think. We think we're safe. The Balrog is coming. But the Balrog and the threat that drove you into the minds are both trouble. Both trouble. So we'll enjoy Alex running straight into that brick wall on our next episode. But until then, we have a website. Indeed we do.
Starting point is 01:36:56 It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor. Woo!
Starting point is 01:37:03 Yeah. Woo! Yeah. And now here comes. the sex robots. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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