Knowledge Fight - #1068: August 10, 2025

Episode Date: August 22, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in for the day before Trump took control of the DC police, where they find Alex hungry for war with Mexico and not hungry for fake butter.

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I'm a huge fan. I love your room. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Hey, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan.

We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. A quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? Why don't you go first? My bright spot is Alien Earth. It's a new TV show.

Okay. In the Alien franchise? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it, we watched the first couple episodes. It's fucking great. Does it take place on Earth? Yes. Okay.

I think so. Are there aliens there? Yes, there are. But they're from the future. Okay. But also the future is the 80s. Because we're in the alien universe. Okay.

But also it's the future, but everything's like, boop, beep, boop, boop, kind of computers. Can the aliens time travel? No, not yet. Okay. But perhaps once they meet the predator, because I'm pretty sure the predator's time travel. So Alien versus Predator has to be a time travel movie. Sure. Yeah.

Which, but it's already happened. Alien versus Predator has already happened. That is a good point. This is dangerous. We'd have to time travel to go see that in theaters. I think we can do multiverse. Okay. Yeah.

That's what we'll do. What's going on with this show? It's really good. It was done by the guy who made Legion and Fargo, both of which were fucking really, really good and really interesting. It's a good, like, it's hard to make a horror TV show. True. Because, you know, you're going to see these, you know you're going to see these people next week. But, man, that alien's so fucking scary that even if you know.

people are going to be alive when that little thing comes out and just it's the magic of the geiger it's solid it's solid yeah yeah that's good stuff that's that's an interesting path that this person's carved out because like alien seems like a tv show that like it's a movie that's really good yeah and people would be mad at a bad tv show fargo exactly a movie that's really good that's the only reason it was almost like there's only one guy that we can reliably choose to make this show in a way that won't make everybody go, this fucking sucks. And it's the guy who's done that exact same thing multiple times.

All right. It's just a weird skill this guy has. I've never seen anybody do it before. All right. Let's get Jurassic Park TV show. Right. Let's get some good stuff. This guy can finally make, it's like he makes worlds inside, it's like a diorama

inside somebody else's world. It's really interesting. Nice. Maybe I'll check it out. Yeah, I would suggest it. Sweet. What's your bright spot? I've been dipping back into Legend of Zelda.

a high rule warrior's age of calamity. All right. The sort of Dynasty Warrior Zelda, Breath of the Wild game. Yeah, the whole thing. That's fun. It's just a great art style, and these characters are fun. It's cute. Do you get to play as any of them that you want?

A lot of them. Yeah. You get to play as like Impa and Zelda and Link and... What kind of weapons are we dealing with? Who's our long-range fighter? That would be like Ravali. The bird guy. Okay, the bird guy?

He's got a bow. He's got a bow. Yeah. All right. All right. Link's got a sword. He's got a spear. Sure.

Yeah, I guess, you know, you could say that the fish, the fish lady. I've played so much of these games that I can't remember any of the names of the. What's the fish ladies deal? What's the, who are those fish people? The fish, you know, the fish people. I always just think, hey, they got the fish. They're fish people. They're water folk.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She has like a trident. So that's kind of range. Yeah, that's fun. Anyway, I played it when it came out and then I stopped. And I'm glad that I stopped because it's now pretty fun. Yeah. Those are such great, like, scratch and itch games.

Somehow there's just an itch and then that game just hits it right. And you're like, oh, I'm satisfied. I don't know why. Yeah, I'm enjoying it. Yep. So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. All right. We're going to be talking about August 10th, 2025.

Okay. 11th, the 11th of August, that's the day that Trump unleashed the federal troops upon the D.C. Right. Everything's going great. Yeah. And so we're going to check in and see how Alex is dealing with the anticipation of that. Sure.

And as that unfolds, we'll see how Mr. Police State responds. Yeah, I mean, becoming everything that one has said they were against piece by piece over time. It's kind of fascinating to watch. Yes. And in this episode in particular, it's such great timing because one of the funniest things I've ever seen happens. And it revitalized me in a way that I can't even describe. So I'm excited to get to that. But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wongs.

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Yeah. See what you... We're trying to do it out. Send some Gaelic words in. Absolutely. Chavons, get your engines going. And so Jordan can see me panic. So we have a little jump from our last episode to hear.

Yeah. And, you know, last we left off, Alex was... You know, he had his struggle with the Trump response to the Epstein debacle. Yep. He was letting Nazi take the high ground. Sure. Sure. It was quite an embarrassing showing.

And he was, he was a bit turned off on Trump a little bit. Sure. There was a fair amount of, I'm going to call it like I see it. Sure. Maybe he's getting a 90 out of 100. I'm going to call it like I see it. This man's waffling. He's a waffler.

So where do you think he is now on a one to 100? I'm going to go with a 99.8. You're in the right direction. I have seen a lot of really good actions against the globalists in the last week by Trump. Six months ago, I would give him a 98. A month ago, I would give him about a 95. He's already dialed back up to about a 97. Ooh, I'm so close.

And anybody that isn't looking at all the positive stuff Trump's doing and it's just bitching and whining and complaining is not paying attention. Doesn't mean we don't get on Trump's ass and people in his administration when they go the wrong direction. No, we put him in there. He works for us.

They got national news constantly cherry-picking when I criticize this or that. Jones's deserted Trump. Jones's abandon ship. Bull crap. Bull crap. There's no difference between a 98 and a 95. I mean, I can't even understand why you would bother.

I don't know if there was. that much media attention to the idea that Alex turned on Trump. To the extent that anyone cared, it was really just people laughing at the situation that he found himself in. The entire time that Trump has been a relevant national level politician has been post-Pizagate, and his political movement runs on the satanic panic that arose out of that. Watching the Trump propaganda scramble to figure out if they could afford to keep their connection with their power avatar has been funny, and that's what any media outlet would

have been covering. Look at these guys squirm. I mean, it's hard not to look at it. like that. And here's the God's honest truth. The only story here is that Alex didn't abandon Trump. Yep. The fact is it's so revealing

to what's actually important to him and it's not fighting corruption. That is clear. His number one brand is invalidated. This is hard to articulate precisely, but there's a certain appeal that InfoWars has that's built on not making excuses for politicians.

It's why Alex repeats, I'm not a lesser of two evils guy all the time because this shows political identity is fundamentally opposed to that kind of thinking. It's baked into the idea of transcending the left-right paradigm and it's central to why Alex backed Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 instead of choosing a viable Republican candidate. If you believe that you're fighting the devil and all your enemies have demons inside them, then you can't break out pros and cons lists to determine your allegiances. If Trump's working with and aiding the devil on this giant thing and demanding you not question it, then it doesn't matter how many godly acts

he might be doing on the side. He's working with the devil. And that's what you're asking the audience to accept. This is not sustainable in long term, but it's not surprising that this is where Alex is. No, no. It's funny. It's very funny because even the tone that he's using, I remember this tone very well. I remember this tone very well because, and I think a lot of people will too.

Anybody who's still talking about Bernie is just getting in the way of Hillary winning this election, you know? And it's like, man, for the longest time, that was the bonus of being somebody who wants to get away from the political system but is on the far right is you're not going to hear that. You can just scream like a lunatic and people will eventually do what you say. But now, finally, you guys have to deal with Hillary. That's what you're doing. Yeah. Trump is your Hillary. Alex has turned himself into a blue no matter who kind of guy.

100%. but he wants to still think that he's... I'm on the vanguard. I'm a big strong boy, but blue no matter who. It's... But the blue is Trump. Exactly. Yeah.

Hillary and Trump are the same person now. Trump no matter what. Oh, my God. So the Russian folks, they got a summit coming up with Trump. I think it's going to go great. Yeah. In Alaska, they're going to meet up. And maybe there'll be some false flags.

And the Russian foreign ministry, Labarov, has come out and said, there will be titanic efforts to prevent peace with Ukraine. And they go into what those efforts will be, false flag attacks. And again, you heard that from me first. I don't follow the Russian talking points. They just always days or weeks after I say something say the exact same thing because they see the same thing going on and quite frankly listen to me. But they're not the only government that does.

That's just a fact. That's the level we're at by the grace of God. So this, I think, is a good illustration of what Alex can't let go of. Appearing close to Trump and seeming like he's connected to that power is just one expression of Alex's addiction to playing this role of the most important person in the world. Multiple governments take their cues from him. So if you really think about it, Alex Jones dictates foreign policy. His rants, they move armies. They change history.

Absolutely. There's a grandiosity to this position that he's put himself in for the show and to reel it in. at all would reveal, it would threaten to reveal how thin it is and how fake it all is. Sergei Lavrov didn't say what Alex is claiming in that clip. This was actually something that a Russian investment envoy named Kirill Dimetriov posted on telegram. He didn't say that false flags were going to be done to stop the Trump Putin summit, but that there was disinformation being pushed to try to derail it.

Demetriov is the head of the Russian direct investment fund, which is a $10 billion sovereign wealth and created by the Russian government. Great. More concerning for Alex is that he used to work for Goldman Sachs and was a World Economic Forum young global leader. Sure. It's probably best to just pretend Lavrov said false flags are coming.

Let's not unpack this too much. Let's move on from that. Yeah. Lavrov appeared at a thing with Alex remotely. Here's what I like about an Alaska and peace conference or whatever, right? If something happens, what? In Alaska? That's crazy.

But why would anything happen? Because it's Alaska, that would be crazy. Yeah, right? All bets are off. It's genius. It's the best place. It's the most obvious place to do something movie like crazy. And that's why no one would ever do it.

If one of them didn't make it out, you would be like, well, the wilds got them. Exactly. Exactly. It would be the wild. Like, it's the cold, untamed frontier. What it needs to be is identical to John Sina and Idris Elba in that World Leaders movie, except it's Trump and Putin trying to survive a. in the Alaskan wilderness.

I think they would crush it. And the only way to know is to give them a shock. Yeah. I think they have slightly less charisma than Sina and Elba. Maybe a little bit. Yeah, so Alex is thrilled about this summit. Of course. That's great.

Yeah. Thrilled about some other things. Sure. That are going on. Probably racist-based. Yeah. I think you might be able to make an argument. There's talk of Trump sending the military.

to Mexico, to take out all the cartels. Can they do that? I feel like they can't do that for a lot of reasons, for so many reasons. I will say that the Mexican president is opposed. Shouldn't that have something to do with why they can't do that? Yeah, because it would be a military invasion. It would be invading a country, yeah. Alex is into this.

Of course. Oh, Mexico says that the United States has announced that it's going to invade it. No. NATO has invaded Russia, Mexico, and China have invaded the United States. What? When Trump stood up with these tariff steals, he wasn't attacking people. He was retaliating to the attack. Mexico is run by the narco-terror states, Venezuela, other countries.

It's run by the cartels on record. And Trump's given them seven months to stop the activities and shut down the cartels and they haven't. So Trump is saying, I'm getting ready to have the U.S. military, as he did four or five months ago, designated him terrorists, take action against the cartels that are more well equipped than even the Mexican military. So translation, Trump has declared war on the cartels. And he warned them all, and now they haven't taken action. and so now Trump is getting ready to

go after them and I'm not for invading Iraq or Syria or Russia and I've been against all these past wars because it was globalist run, globalist started

and not in our interest. I 100% support President Trump if he decides to engage in military strikes against drug cartels inside Mexico this is the anti-war guy there is okay now I think I understand why people would think he's the anti-war guy but you got to understand he's also from Texas and that means he thinks most of Mexico should be theirs true yeah true like they just took it one time why can't they take it again it's kind of their belief system yeah yeah and as as I was going through this

you know, listening to him, I started to realize that, like, his war philosophy is just like, no, no, too far away. Yeah, no, 100%. 100%. Too far away for now. He's four wars that are close. Absolutely. Because I can then, I can have that.

Now I can have that. Right. If we can't have Iraq, Iraq isn't going to become the 51st state. How are we going to get a highway there? Well, he considers himself like Confederate royalty and his family founded Texas. And they did that. by stealing it. Stealing Texas.

I mean, one could say they took a giant chunk of land from people who were on it. Yeah. So I think he likes that. Yeah. And that's kind of why he's down with Russia invading Ukraine. Yeah. It's close. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You get more stuff. It makes sense. Yeah. I want your stuff. It's a reason to fight a war. So this guy is anti-war. Yeah. He's super anti-war.

But he's a big into Bionese. Yeah. For a country. Yeah. Country Bionese. Yeah. And this one would be good. good, man. Sure. This one would be so good.

I don't like war, but we have millions of dead from fentanyl. We have millions dead from the crime waves and all the stuff of the past decades. We have a physical invasion. We have Mexico helping continue the invasion. We are under attack. We

didn't start it. The Marines and the Army have had to go into Mexico in World War I when Mexico side with the Germans and attacked us and before that and if the Marines need to go into Mexico City, so be it. This is almost indistinguishable from the people trying to defend Bush's wars after 9-11. Alex says, consider the people who died of fentanyl, whereas, you know, back in the day,

they were concerned about the Taliban growing poppy and how they were responsible for all the heroin deaths. It's drugs. It's drugs. It's just us. Yeah. Alex says that there's a physical invasion, but back in the day, they had the physical attack of 9-11 to terrify people with. Absolutely. People says, Alex says that Mexico's enabling the invasion to continue, whereas back in the day, they said Saddam is facilitating terrorism around the world. He sure did. Alex is saying that we didn't start this and the Marines, you know, they've had to go into Mexico before. And back in the day, they could point to the first desert storm as a piece of history that normalizes this march to war.

There you go. For someone who's built their career on the kind of ground that Alex has, this is pathetic. this is so wrong for him to like he's got the people have got to feel betrayed right i mean his audience has to feel like what the fuck it's it's hard not to imagine that this will never like okay do you just do you think texas should own everything south of texas i think that's a genuine question now well i mean sure once you make mexico safe yeah you're You're going to have to take... Gotta keep going.

You're going to have to take Nicaragua. Sure. You're going to have to take Guatemala. Yep. You definitely need the Panama Canal. So you might as well take everything in between that and there. And then once you're at the Panama Canal... Go for Brazil.

Absolutely. Brazil's got so much things. It's big. Yeah. And by that point, it's close. And frankly, we'll all be Mexican then. I just... I feel like you can't have lived through the Iraq War period and had the kind of mentality that Alex

has seemed to have and put forth this kind of an argument. I have been sold a war the same way for my entire life, and it's probably never going to stop. And Alex has built his career on being the opposite of the people who are selling you that war, and now he's trying to create support for invading Mexico. Listen, I'm a hardliner except for the situations

where I want things the way that I want them. Yeah. It's just fucking strange because he seems to actually want war for Mexico. Great. So I 100% support a measured strategic rollout. And look, the cartels may do terror attacks. They may kill Republican leaders. That's what they do.

Good. Let's get an out in the open fight here. That way it's not kids dying of fentanyl overdoses and stuff. We'll send in the men and we'll fight your men and we'll see who wins. This makes sense. of America. And this will also send a message of the rest of the world that America's back. Yeah, man. It'll send a message that will invade our neighbors.

All right. Now, if I understand correctly, warfare has not evolved ever. We'll send our men, you send your men, we fight the end. Yep. That has that, okay, as a system now, historically, as a system, has that worked out for us? You know, it's got us where we are. So no. Yeah. There we go. I can't see this as anything other than a little saber rattley. Okay, so let's play this out. Let's war games this from a very literal standpoint. Sure. Right? So we invade Max. What does that even look like? Do we have cars? Do we

have tanks? Are there planes? Are people getting bust over the border? Like, what are we talking about? We invade Mexico. Well, Alex has said that the cartels have better technology than the Mexican army. Okay. So it would be a greater challenge than just taking over Mexico. Right, absolutely. So that's number one. So you would need tanks, I would assume.

Yeah. Okay. So we got that. He did say measured. But there's so much distance you would have to drive a fucking tank. It's a, it's a tank. You'd have to drive it forever. That's a lot of gas.

This is an expensive war before we've even gotten there. Right. And that's why you send a man on. foot. I mean, is that what he really was? He's like, let's just do the alamo, man. We'll get a bunch of guys. I've got guns. Are you asking if Alex wants to do the alamo? I think Alex wants to do the alamo. That's all he's ever wanted to do. I think you might be right. So, um, I would, I, I just think that this is a crazy position for Alex to have. Like, we should fuck it, man. They're going to kill Republican leaders. Good. I mean, I don't know if this, maybe this

exists for everybody. Maybe we're all like, listen, this, I'm against this. But fuck that guy. That guy's a piece of shit. Let's go. Get him. He just hates President Shinebomb. Is that what we are? I don't know. So I thought

this was strange and it only got worse as Alex began to discuss the idea of Trump taking over D.C. Okay. And will it be nasty? Will it be horrible? Will it be disgusting? Yeah, it'll be better than surrender and millions of our people dying

quietly. And the illegal aliens run over people and the drunk drivers and the carjackings and my reporter getting killed and all the home break-ins and all the rest of it. So these criminals, just like the thugs all over D.C., carjackings 10 times a day, murders, everybody getting robbed, home invasions, and Trump's like,

I'm putting feds on the streets and we're going to federally charge people. I mean, look, you've got to do something. The communists, the globalist, he funded the police. They want to make us a failed state just like Mexico. Trump is doing what he has to do. And on this, I 100% supporting. So that's a fundamental betrayal of everything Alex is supposed to stand for. Literally everything.

Everything. Every single one. Trump is attempting to whip up support for his idea of federalizing the police in Washington, D.C. And the only justifiable way to argue in favor of this is technicalities involving the Home Rule Act of 1973. D.C. isn't a city and it's not a state. So it doesn't. doesn't fit the same mold as other municipalities in terms of offering its residents' full self-government. They have a mayor who acts similar to a state's governor and their counsel is their legislature. But because the center of the government is there, the federal folks have an outsized influence. Congress has to sign off on all the bills that the council passes and the president retains a lot of powers that would normally go to a governor like taking over the police in the case of an emergency. Sure, fuck it.

Section 740 of the Home Rule Act allows the president to take over the municipal police department if there's an emergency, but also they're only supposed to be able to do that for 48 hours. By that point, the president is required to justify the use of force to Congress unless Congress is adjourned when they do it, in which case they have 30 days. Sure. It may surprise you to learn that Trump invoked this while Congress was adjourned. Huh. How about that? So in the real world, crime is down significantly in D.C., so it doesn't seem like there would be a good argument to say, that this was an emergency that required this kind of action. Sure.

But that didn't stop the Trump administration from pretending that everything was out of control. On August 11th, after Trump officially took over the MPD, the White House published a statement titled, quote, fact, yes, D.C. crime is out of control. Okay. It begins. Quote, Washington, D.C. should be a symbol of pride and patriotism for the American people and a safe location for tourists, residents, and public servants. Unfortunately, while fake news.

news journalists and politicians go out of their way to claim otherwise, the reality is that our nation's capital has anything but safe. That tone is not what I love to see. Sure. So the first thing they cite in this statement is a study from the Rochester Institute of Technology, which they accurately claim shows D.C. having a murder rate of 27.3 people per 100,000 residents. Uh-huh.

In the very next sentence, they use this study again to claim that D.C. has the, quote, fourth highest homicide rate in the country. Sure. This is based on that same study in that, and it was correct based on that, that D.C. is the fourth highest among the municipalities that that paper looked at. But that title, the title of that study is, quote, 24 homicide statistics for 24 U.S. cities. Their data only included 24 cities, which were selected because they were the same cities that

this professor, Ershad Ulheimer, used when they did the same analysis. in 2019 and 2020. Sure. This paper isn't about homicide rates full stop. It's really about homicide rates in Rochester, New York, and how they compare to trends and averages in other U.S. cities. The researchers chose 23 other places in the country, and that just became their data set.

It doesn't include some cities with notable homicide rates like Baltimore, Birmingham, Cleveland, and Jackson, Mississippi. The Trump administration is using this paper to make the claim that can't supported by the source and by the end of the statement that they put out their citation for carjacking statistics is a link to a tweet like this is very clearly trying to build the argument for why there's an emergency as opposed to showing an emergency right and then responding to it right everybody accidentally got it backwards what you need is an exact number for when you can do it and then everything else is when you can't do it so like what's the

number like is it a thousand per a hundred thousand and then you get to do that okay but you got to have a number you can't just be like 27's enough what when is 40 too many is 10 enough what like what's the number yeah you know you got to work backwards well but yeah 27.3 is an interesting number and you know there's a lot of discussion you could have about it sure but saying that it's the fourth highest city in the country is just a lie. Sure. It's not true based on the context of the source that it's using. This is using a lie to push a narrative.

Right. Absolutely. So who cares what the 27 is? Yeah. No, they shouldn't be able to do it. Yeah. And if there's one thing that Alex's career has centered on, it's the idea that a tyrannical leader will exploit and fabricate crises in order to

expand their power. Whether he did 9-11 or not, Bush used the public fear around the attack to pass the Patriot Act and go to war, and Alex sold himself as being important because he was the voice who could interrupt the globalist plot. Their evil plans to seize power rely on building that fear up, because the public's fear is what drives the public to demand and accept actions that the tyrants couldn't get away with in other circumstances. It's all part of the Hegelian dialectic, the problem reaction solution model of social control. The globalists tell us there's a problem, and we react by demanding that the government take care of it.

They respond by offering a ready-made solution, which was the reason that they got us all scared about that problem to begin with. A perfect example of this from Alex's career is the body scanners being put in airports. He said that on numerous occasions, that they wanted to install these all over the place, and the contractors stood to make a ton of money from that overall, but the public wouldn't have gone for it. so instead of arguing that the scanners were a good idea the globalist's false flagged a flight with the underwear bomber and just like that people were demanding that the government protect them from that threat even if it met an invasion of our privacy hey what you're going to do if you've listened to Alex's show and internalize the point that he's making there's no way to interpret Trump's actions around DC as anything other than a tyrant creating a pretext to seize control absolutely it's like it's cookie cutter there's no way to describe his own behavior earlier as anything but that right like oh fentanyl let's take mexico it's very yeah but but now it's like so i mean what are we doing right he made the city a fortress Alex Alex is saying feds on the streets yep that's something that he's saying yeah i mean it's not even the arkansas

department of transportation no we have gone up several levels of uh scary and it's fine yeah well and here's the point. In the past, Alex has existed as a figure on the outside of the problem reaction solution dynamic, pretending to just observe the demonic plots of his enemies as they unfold and warning people. But now he's part of the dialectic. He's trying very hard to get his audience to be a part of the reaction that justifies Trump's solution. He can't possibly be the figure that he's pretended to be all these years and not understand that that's what he's doing. So he was either faking that shit all along or he's now knowingly trying to

calm the audience. Yeah. And that's sad. Well, according to him, he's had talks with the White House where they say, what do you want? Uh, so maybe he's gotten what he wants. And, you know, he's had talks with God. Well, there's definitely that.

So, absolutely. It's just a mess, man. They got to, okay. Now, I understand it's scary and stuff, you know, that he's taking over the D.C. police and there are feds everywhere. I understand that's terrifying from a metaphorical standpoint. But like, what is he doing with him? You got to arrest a congressman, right? You got to use the police to have a fake investigation and then arrest somebody powerful and terrify the rest of

them into submission, right? Otherwise, you're just kind of, you know, general vibe scary. Mm-hmm. You know? Well, yeah. I mean, like, we're, like, pushing the boundary a If you're saying you've got to push the boundary even. You've just got to keep going. You know, nobody's kicking doors down is what I'm saying. We're not yet quartering soldiers, which is nice. That's a great amendment. And I think it's going to hold up for quite some time.

But, you know, like, it's scary. But what do you, you got to do something with it to really give that punch, you know? Well, actually, a little bit later in this episode, and I'm making this up, so don't take this seriously. But Alex does talk about how, like, you know, all you people probably. wanted to run a bed and breakfast. Right. Quartering soldiers ain't so bad. It's not, it could be worse.

Yeah. You know, you've got enough to, it's not like in the, in the 1700s, man. Don't you support the troops? You've got a refrigerator. That's better than they did. You can handle a court. You can quarter a troop. Yeah.

Yeah. So Alex is in favor of Trump federalizing D.C. Why not? And that's crazy. Sure. He's also seeming to be very enthusiastic about war with Mexico. Right. Which is just.

nuts. We're not starting a war with the Mexican drug cartels that run that country. They started it. We're just recognizing that it's going on. And once America finds its instincts again

and finds its genetic code, and I don't mean that like an American Eagle ad about white people. I mean, it's code what it is. To not sit there and bend over and take it up the ass all day by the whole world, this will turn around very quickly. So, go ahead, Mexican cartels, attack a U.S. military base. Go ahead. Kill some Marines,

kill some army. Watch what happens. What? You're going to get your asses blown to hell. So you want to fight? You better believe you're about to get one. Because Trump is very focused, and he looks at all the data he's got of what's killing this country. And one of the biggest thing is that narco-terror state to the south of us with a bunch of arrogant drug cartels that have taken control of the government and bullied almost every bit of it. And let me tell you something, when they run up against 21st century

high-tech military, it's bye-bye. They're not guys with a bag of rice in AK-47 on the Ho Chi Men Trail. They are in compounds running towns and cities out in the open. They will be vaporized. I understand their threat, their posture, what they've got,

what they have. They are a push, over for the U.S. military other than if they decide to resort to terror attacks and targeting U.S. law enforcement and leaders, which, which, hey, egg's got to get broken here. What are we doing? You want to come up here and you want to kill some federal agents and some judges or talk show host? I don't know you got to hit out on me. Well, that's what grows the tree of liberty, bitch.

What? So, if you, if you think all Americans have had their balls cut off and if you think there's no Americans left, you're about to find out. verdict war with Mexico. This is insane. Who the fuck is the you in this scenario? Do you know what I mean? If you think that you're like, who is you?

Who is clamoring for war with Mexico? Who in Mexico is like, it's time for us to take down the U.S. The cartels. Yeah, what? Yeah. Are they a full-on, like, conquering military? Do we have a colonialist force of cartels? Yeah, I think he's thinking of like the Salamanca's or something.

Right? Yeah, we're in Breaking Bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Here's the only thing I have to say about this. Yes. Completely insane. Yeah. But also, I do like the, that's how you water the tree of liberty, bitch.

That's how you water the tree of liberty, bitch. And the reason I like the way Alex is using that is constantly that tree of liberty needs to be watered is a threat. Right. Alex is talking about his own blood. Yep. He's like, come kill me, cartels. All liberty. I'll wash that tree.

Yeah? You rarely hear that in that tone. And I admire it slightly. Like, okay, I understand he has this concept of war because we've lived through wars that happen elsewhere. All of our wars have happened elsewhere because it's really, really hard to cross an ocean to fight. It's really far, right? But to have a war that could happen, can you imagine if Mexico just like put a siege on Phoenix and all those old people just got too hot and died? Like, that would end the war immediately.

We'd be like, ah, okay, we'll just keep the border. The Rio Grande actually makes sense, you know? And like, yeah, that's even going to Arizona. Let's keep it in Texas. Like El Paso is right there. It's literally right there. We share it. Yeah.

I mean, it's just. We're not doing East El Paso, West El Paso. This is not Germany. Despite, despite sincere desire for that, apparently. On Alex's part. Oh, my God. So Alex predicts that Trump will be able to beat the cartoon. tells in a week, just like, you know, the Epstein files came out day one and, you know,

Ukraine's done. That's over now. It would take a week to get there. Yeah. Those tanks. It's forever. So he starts talking a bit about Russia and Ukraine. Sure.

Trump's going to solve all those problems. I bet he is. It is Alaska Summit because he and Putin, they're the ones who have real power here. Zelensky is just going to go along with whatever deal. these two work out. I feel like he's kind of been clear on not doing that. Yeah. But Alex thinks it's all going to work out.

All right. And then he talks a little bit about history. Okay. Russia has said the United States can have Ukraine, which produced 40% of the Cold War weapons. It's their main industrial center because we're on the border with Europe. Russia has destroyed their own infrastructure. Russia with the Ukrainians, that's like cousins. It's like a German Shepherd versus an Alsatian.

It's a different variety of German Shepherd. I mean, it's literally where Russia started a thousand years ago. We're all the different variety of the same. You understand that, right? Or Russia or Ukraine or Georgia, they're all called Slavs because of this one Orthodox priest that came in there and evangelized people. Slav the wise. He came from Ukraine.

He came from Kiev. And so again, that's why Putin, when he talked to Tucker a few years ago, just harp for like an hour on history saying, do you understand this? I mean, do you know this? So Slav the Wise was not a Orthodox evangelist. He was the grand prince of Kiev and became the prince of Novgorod and Rostov. Sure. The word Slavic doesn't come from his name.

And that collective noun predates his birth by hundreds of years. Oh, yeah? I do admit they sound similar, though. They sure do. So I can see how Alex convinced himself of this. But that mentality that he's expressing there with like, Russia, they ruined their own infrastructure by attacking Ukraine. That's why we need to attack Mexico.

It's the same mentality that you're talking about. He thinks Ukraine is rightfully part of Russia. It's just there. And he thinks that Mexico's rightly part of the United States or Texas. Man, I can't begin to describe what would happen to his brain if he was like, wait. But they're all just different versions of dog. So they're all one. So, like, people are all just different versions of people, man.

Maybe we're not being nice to Mexico. Dog is God backwards, man. Ooh, that's also pretty serious. I got to call Rogan. You're right. We got to take Ukraine down. So there's some good news of Trump. Yeah.

He made a big deal recently. Yeah? Big money deal. To do what? Selling the EU energy. And he's taking everything away from Russia. He's taking everything away from Russia. from the EU, these deals screw them even worse.

I mean, when it comes to hardcore business, Trump is dominating for you. But people don't understand geopolitics, they don't even see any of this. Trump just got a deal, since NATO blew up their North Stream pipeline of the Russians, okay, now you've got to borrow your gas from us at a premium. $600 billion, two weeks ago. So, believe me, Trump isn't sitting there giving, uh, Russia a back massage. So this $600 billion deal is between the EU in the United States, and it wasn't a situation where the Nord Stream was blown up so the EU had to come to us for gas.

Basically, what happened here is that Trump threatened way too high of tariffs on EU countries, and things got a little bit messy. Following through with his threats would severely impact the U.S. economy, but giving up on them would hurt his ego. So the EU struck a deal where they would avoid ridiculously high tariffs, and they would pledge to spend a bunch of money. in the future on U.S. energy. Right. There's no commitment and no enforcement mechanism for this pledge. And most experts say it would be literally impossible to follow through on.

Yeah. One basic issue is supply. The United States couldn't export enough energy to reach the numbers in this agreement. Politico quoted a gas expert as saying that the arrangement is, quote, completely unrealistic. The numbers are just beyond wild. She also said it was, quote, never going to happen. Huh. And on the other side of the equation,

a problem with demand in that the EU itself, it can't force member countries or private companies to buy American energy products. So they're not in a position where they can dictate that. Weird how that works. So like forcing them to buy American energy is impossible. Right. And the United States can't create enough to get to the number that is in this deal. I don't understand what you're saying.

I feel like you're trying to make some sort of point, but all I'm hearing is that Trump is crushing it in business. He's so good. He's so good. So Trump needed something to save face over the fact that his tariff demands weren't going to fly. So the EU agreed to a ridiculous thing that the U.S. can't deliver on and they can't enforce so everyone can just walk away feeling like winners. That's nice. I was reading a couple takes on this. Are there takes? Do you need a take? Well, yeah, I don't know. But people have the interesting point of like, I think people have figure it out how to deal with Trump. Yeah.

And that is just don't lie. Yeah. Yeah. He's lying. Why would you not lie? Right. I, how many times have I been screaming this at people for how long? Yeah.

Give him a fantasy that will make him happy and then everybody else can act like they're real. Yeah. God damn it. Fake capitulation. It's like, it seems like it could work. Yeah. And this deal was like a really prime example that people had of like, well, it kind of looks like the EU just. agreed to something that was non-binding and they definitely can't do and the U.S.

wouldn't want to do either. Yeah, we'll play pretend with you. Yes. Yep, absolutely. That's great. Can I just ask the question? All right. So, Trump is crushing it at business for you.

Now, and you. I feel like perhaps if he was crushing it at business for me, there would be some evidence that he had crushed business for me in the past at every. any given point in time. And considering he is a 90 billion-year-old man, we would have some evidence. But he has only ever crushed it at business for himself. Yeah, that's true. It's not, there weren't homes stakes.

You can, you can crush it at business for other people without being the president. Mm-hmm. Well, you definitely can. Yep. And this is such a weird example for Alex to be taken as like this big win. because, like, the numbers, like I said, they're ridiculous. Yeah. They essentially would require the United States all of the energy that we export.

Yeah. And then we'd have to make more in order to get to this agreement. Or we could just not give a shit. Yeah. No, imagine if we just had a department of the government called the coddling department that made up a bunch of fun things for far-right concerns. conservatives and those people to believe in, and then everybody else just worked the rest of the day, like normal people. I honestly think that maybe it's, at this point, is it a chronic condition we just have to deal with?

Right. I mean, we just have to live with. It's about pain management, not pain solution. I don't know. Maybe. So, um, the, the issue that Alex has is that, um, we got to, we got to be nice to Putin. Of course. We got to, we got to be.

friends with Russia because if we don't, they're going to be friends with China. And we don't want that. So we need to drive a wedge between them so we can have all the business. Sure. Because Russia and the United States, they secretly want to be friends

but not China. No, China's bad. Why? What? I don't know. Okay. But Alex says something towards the end of this clip that I just thought was very funny. So I've always been here. Just because we're getting people and government that aren't 100% against our country.

Does it mean when, oh, and now I'm for China taking over, because I don't want the U.S. elites to be in control. There are elites now. We're taking the country back, and we're cutting off the CHICOMs. Got it? We have power. We hold the administration's feet in the fire. We're in charge.

Got it? What do you think, we stand up the communist China, but put the Democrats in? Maybe. Well, J.D. Vance is just, trying to end the war with Russia because he wants to cut China off. Yeah, uh-huh, exactly. You know what China's doing, the South China scene everywhere else?

You know what they're doing dominating the whole planet? What their agenda is? You think the Democrats are bad. The communist Chinese make them look like angels. And the Russians have got the biggest country in the world. More resources in the whole continent of Africa. The real... strategy, Pentagon documents going back to the 50s and throughout

up until now and the Rand Corporation and Carnegie said the ultimate alliance would be the United States and Russia geographically and resource-wise and culturally and through soft power we would dominate the whole planet and have a true golden age. And for whom? For whom? The United States, Saudi Arabia is going that way and just stopping.

And then we can have the Jetsons future, but not under this current trajectory. So, yeah, I do support Trump and the security establishment beachhead we have that doesn't want to drive Russia in the arms of China and destroy the dollar in America's future. Yeah, 100%. I'm in alignment with that, of course. And stop the eugenics poisoning of our food and water and the Bill Gates' plan and the rest of it.

And the Hollywood demoralization of the country. Trump's doing all the right things on that stuff, folks. Securing the border, national sovereignty, all of it. But the main danger is NATO attacking a nuclear reactor in eastern Ukraine, blowing up some NATO ships planted on Russia, firing some missiles into Poland or Romania or something like that. We're in the prime zone right now for titanic efforts, as the Russians say, to derail this peace deal. Because Zelensky and NATO won't take it, so Trump says, fine. I'm going to go do a deal with Putin, offer it to them, and if they don't do it, we're out.

And it's going to happen. and this brings down the whole globalist system and it cuts Russia off from China and drives them into our arms which in all strategic analyses is the obvious best move for everybody concerned empires that were smart

didn't kill each other they made alliances they married their sons and daughters off that's what they did that's strange you know certainly the guy who hates like feudal systems and kings and stuff is like we should intermarry. No, what we should have is two large empires

that control vast swaths of territory between the two of them. You know, I think that's great. Through like threats of extreme violence. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's because it would be a new golden age so people would just naturally go along with it. Sure.

You know, like when you de-radicalize the Middle East, if you're America and Russia, what you're really doing is just talking. It's talk therapy. Look at us. we got through it you guys can get through it I'm picturing Putin pulling up a chair

and sitting back on it oh absolutely let's wrap yeah guys that's what he's get into it that's how he's approaching the situation I guess the more shocking part was actually at the beginning of that clip where Alex is like the elites are are elites now that one yeah that one's crazy kind of got to be stupid to try and pull that

in what world can you have your own elites they have you that's the whole point of it The word elite is they have you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They have their own intrinsic interests that don't include you. Yeah.

I understand the British people think it makes sense that they have a king, but the king has them. Mm-hmm. That's how it works. That's how kings work. Yeah. And like I said, this is kind of the difference that Alex is finding himself in. Like, he's inside that, like, conversation between the elites and the, the, now that I'm an elite. The unwashed masses.

Right. Right, right, right. As opposed to being someone who's like, this is how they're trying to trick you, man. Right, right, right. I'm trying to trick you. This is, this is like the guy who was in the union, who's fucking fighting, who's crushing it, and then he's a rep. And all of a sudden, he's like, you know what? These guys are really nice.

I think if you just talk to them, we don't have to get everything we want. Yeah. Yeah. It has that vibe. Yep. So most of the beginning of this episode has been a large desire to go to war with Mexico. Right. uh signing off 100% on trump putting troops in dc and i thought like we are off to the fucking

races yeah but then halfway through the show everything changes fuck that shit because we got to talk about beef oh my god well the story has gone mega viral in the last two days and i'm so glad that the public is finally erupting with interest over this Because I've been focusing on lab-grown meat and lab-grown butter and lab-grown milk and insect flour. It's not flour. It's toxic, chiton shells of crickets and things for decades. But now all the big top food producers, Tyson, you name it, in the last four years, I've invested tens of billions of dollars and they've got factories you pull it up built all over the united states

to have lab grown meat and and produce all these insects and and try to force you to eat it now at first i thought all right we're just doing eats the bugs yeah again we're just going to try and rehash that territory why not but alex kept teasing and he kept selling this story it's gone mega viral what i don't i don't know what it is well i'll give you a hint it has to do with fucking fake butter. There we go. Fake butter. Yeah, there's a fake butter company

and someone did a local TV news piece about it. Yeah. Was it that they can't believe it's not butter? I don't. I think they legally couldn't say that.

But they were dancing around it quite a bit. I am finding it difficult to grasp that this thing is not what I expected to me. You have deceived me into thinking. Yeah, so that's the like the kernel of the story.

Right. Now, I would probably just ignore this, except for this leads to one of the biggest belly flops I think I've ever seen Alex do. I love it. And I think it'll pay off even if I hype it. The high dive. So here we get into the beginning of the discussion of lab made butter. Okay. Try to just look at the lab made butter.

We're going to look at lab made beef, salmon, all of it right now. A company called Batavia in Illinois is making butter in a way you're not ever seen before. No animals, no plants, no oils. The butter is made from carbon. Oil. The sustainability-focused approach has the blessing and backing of Bill Gates. CBS News. So let's go ahead and roll this news report.

Then I'll give you the news behind the news. The rest of the story. It looks, smells, and taste. like the butter we're all familiar with, but without the farmland, fertilizers, or emissions tied to that typical process. So this company isn't called Batavia.

That's a city. That's the city. Yeah, the city in Illinois. I've done a lot of comedy at Batavia. Sure you have. There's a company called Saver, and they're of a factory in Batavia. Sure. A fund started by Bill Gates is invested in Saver, and he wrote a blog

post about their butter product last February. Okay. This isn't news. Alex just saw a bunch of idiots posting about this year-old story that now, like, maybe a week before this, some local news did a thing about the factory. Isn't it interesting?

They make butter. Yeah. I mean, I can't, I understand that there's like a lot of fear and stuff because, yeah, of course there is. But I thought, I've always thought that the future part of it was just like, oh, we can rearrange Adams to make the thing.

You know? Like, oh, we can rearrange the air to make butter. Great. Perfect. That's the future, right? I don't need to ask questions. Sure, I mean, someone should be asking questions, but it's not me. But not me.

I'm not going to help in this situation. I do a podcast, and I'm kind of interested. Yeah. But I also know that I'm not a butter scientist. Absolutely not. So I will, I'll leave a lot of those, should we do this, questions. I'm barely even a butter enthusiast. Yeah.

I accept the stuff that's bull. Hello. I can't believe it's up. I can believe it's not butter. Right, right, right. This shit is not butter. No one's going to be tricked. Unmistakably not butter is the brand I buy. Yeah. So look, man, they're trying to sell you fake butter. Also, where can I get? When can I get this fake butter? Where can I get this fake butter? This will come up later. Okay, good. In the local news piece. This is a very important thing because this is a local news piece from Batavia, Illinois that I am supposed to be. you as a threat by the globalist. In 2027, it might be in stores. So get scared. Fear now. Right. Okay. But here's the

thing. They're trying to sell you this. And they know the only way they can do it is to fucking get women to do it. Because women aren't scary. Women aren't scary. The carbon footprint being much lower for a process like this, right? The land footprint is

like a thousand times lower than what you need in traditional agriculture. I know what you're thinking. I think we need to taste that. I always love for you to text this. How does it taste? I love butter. Notice how all the managers, all the reporters.

Oh my God. Are women with Stockholm syndrome. When they got their college degree in PR and science and so it's non-threatening. Oh, it's a woman. It's always a woman. Oh, we're going to teach your son to cut his penis off. It's transgender. I'm sorry, that's a job. I'm a woman.

I'm non-threatening because epigenetically, you're not threatened by woman as being a tyrant because traditionally men commit 97% of violent crime in every culture. Okay. So I think Alex's point is supposed to be that the globalists have women sell you on these evil things like fake butter because no one's scared of women. That's great, but Alex is super afraid of women and anything he sees as not masculine enough. The globalists aren't putting a female face on this. The company's co-founder and CEO just happens to be a woman named Kathleen Alexander.

Alex sees a woman in this position and he needs to invalidate it somehow because she couldn't possibly be there because of merit and hard work she's only there because the globalists need a not scary face to sell you on fake butter and if they didn't need that then a man would be in charge

because that's the way nature intended it and I'm not scared of women I mean I think the real issue here is that the magical science is finally being perfected alchemy will come true in our lifetime we will be able to turn lead into gold and that is that is an achievement right that not even Newton not even Isaac Newton himself could figure out yeah yeah amazing now we can turn air into butter we're just gonna make butter from air that's shouldn't that

just be something that we all go like good for you like I'm not even I'm not even stoked or against it or anything like that. If you want to try and turn air into butter, fuck yeah. Well, I think the real question is once they do that, what will stop them from replacing all the air with butter? I mean, and then how do you breathe? Again, so many things.

Oh, they pretend to care about climate change, but they want to replace air with butter. So the butter is like, is like a cat's cradle. It's like Vodka gets ice nine or whatever. Once you fabricate enough butter, it will create its own butter chain reaction and then we'll all drown in butter. You're crazily not far off.

I'm sort of joking, but Alex kind of thinks that lab-grown meat is self-replicating in a way that it could take over. Right. Fair enough. That's what you're going to do? Because they're growing this meat with human plants themselves.

How does it taste? I love butter, so I'm going to take a really healthy amount. Admittedly, surprisingly, like butter. Back it up again. Back it up. Back it up. Back it up. Back it up. I love butter. It's all scripted. So I'm going to

take a really big bite. It's not butter. How are they allowed to call bug protein? Cytton, very carcinogenic. They're shells. Flower. How are they able to call human cancer cells?

beef how are they able to call human cancer cells about to get to it fish because you take a blob of fish and throw it in with henrietta lax the mortal cell line and it grows a whole vat of it the cancer takes over those cells like the movie the thing and then replicates a giant that some of these vats i've seen them are the size of olympic swimming pools you just throw in blobs of henrietta lax's cancer blob and you throw in some salmon cells and a month later you got a big giant vat of salmon do you yep just throw it in the pool just so henrietta lacks cancer cells it's a fish i mean this this is not a great system but if it works you know it works it's so funny because i see the thought process yeah in his head no i see it's it's a it's how clay face

from the Batman anime series was created. Yeah. It's amazing. He's, it's so dumb. Yeah. But, but kind of beautiful in a way.

It is, it is, it is the way that a child would see how this would work. And it would be pure in its own way. Yeah. Yeah. So throughout this,

he's, he's, you know, interrupting this local news story. Right. And he's teasing a lot that he's about to, he's going to get to the cancer.

sell part of it. The Henrietta lacks of it all. I could not love calling a local news segment acting more. Like this is, have you ever seen a local news? These are so, this is the most produced thing that this place is going to make that day. And they loved it. They fucking loved it. Let them have their fun.

Yeah. To the extent that any, like, anything isn't taken over by like clear channel or, you know, whatever, these big conglomerates that own all of the stations, let these people do their shit. Let these people just have their fun. Yeah. So Alex is teasing. He's teasing away. Interesting bar.

Another reason they say this makes an impact. No palm oil. A significant contributor to deforestation and climate change. That's not all. Of the 51 billion tons of greenhouse gases emitted every year, 7% is from the production

of fats and oils from animals and plants. So when could you get a taste yourself? Right now, they're working directly with restaurants. Oh, it's so wonderful and so delicious and so healthy. When can you get it for yourself? That's what you asked. Yes, that is what I asked.

Don't worry. It's only the most trendy restaurants first, just like the fake salmon from human cancer cells. We'll tell you about in a moment. Let's continue. This is a guy having fun. This is great. Some ladies are talking about fake butter and Alex is pissed off. about it so he's just interrupting this video over and over so he can blow off steam and it just keeps

promising that right around the corner he's going to show us these lab-made meats that are being grown with human cancer cells yep he sucks and this is stupid but there's something about this that feels right this feels like home for alex when i was growing up my grandfather spent most of his day like starting at 10 a.m or whatever at this bar with these three other guys plan cards the whole day they weren't drinking they'd have maybe a beer like they were just there that's where they were and they were talking bullshit about each other things that were nonsensical that could never happen that will never happen that wouldn't happen in anyone's mind but their own that is what alex is meant to do yeah yeah that's it he's meant to like sit there and talk

shit and break down what secret messages the media is trying to tell you with this fake butter stuff interjected every now and then with it's your play yeah yep that's what it's got to be and and like he needs the staff to press the button and back it up a couple seconds he needs that yeah can't do it himself uh-uh so uh the the uh the local news hit uh and Alex is fucking pissed about her wardrobe bullshit I put more information on food sustainability and how this could impact our food industry moving forward in the story that's up on our website right now, where you'll also find more information about this company. Reporting inside Savers facility in Batavia, I'm Tara Molina, CBS News, Chicago,

investigators. Oh, and like the doctors wearing white lab coats, take the shot. You can't get COVID. You can't share it. You'll get a nice heart attack and cancer, though. It'll destroy your immune system, and you get COVID way worse. She's wearing a hard hat and safety glasses. My God, I got to listen to her. Helena has won both national and regional Edward R. Murrow Awards. Holds a master's degree in mass communication from Arizona State University's Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication, and is overqualified for this. Sure, she put on a hard hat and safety glasses for the sign-off shot of this piece,

but that's kind of like the level of quirk that they allow on local news. This is what we're here for, man. This is the human spirit that refuses to give in to corporatism. All of everything else that you could ever complain about mainstream media does not apply to this one section. This media is perfect for what it is. And it relies on that hardtack. Absolutely. Absolutely.

The story is about a factory in Batavia producing this butter. So it's not like that hat is out of place. But more importantly, how is wearing a hard hat like people wearing lab coats so they can convince me to get vaccinated? Right. I get that a lab coat is supposed to signal that I can trust those doctors. but are construction workers known for telling you what foods are safe, or are they butter scientists? I mean, I have no idea. Does it make me trust her more to be like, oh, she's a blue-collar person instead of the very qualified woman who's telling me about this?

I don't know, but he's mad. I mean, but don't you see the beauty in a local news segment about imaginary butter you might see two years from now? Maybe if you, and, and you will never have to buy. No, no. You will never, it will never affect your life. You will probably never think about it again. No. Almost certainly never, ever again will you think about it?

The only reason you're thinking about it now is because someone tweeted something angry about this local news story. Yep. And you saw it on Twitter. You're of, of the people who saw in real time, you're one of maybe 200. Mm. If that. Yep. so you know you got these butter yeah fake butter fake butter now that's like a you know a fatty thing

it's like a fat it's oil lipid kind of thing i mean if you can create it on an atomic level i suppose you can't call it fake butter it's just it's actual butter i don't believe it i fair enough i don't i don't want to litigate that i don't i don't really care i'm just using fake butter as a proxy because yeah no i was just being it's real enough for me yeah i don't absolutely um but they also got fish okay they got salmon okay they got some salmon uh that grown in in uh swimming pools i mean everybody is rejecting this crap but you notice oh they're putting it in food companies that don't tell you what's in the ingredients they're like well they said that's coming in 2017 really they got approved last year

and now it went on the shelves this week at restaurants, at the most trendy Haitian restaurant in San Francisco. Oh, lab-grown salmon introduced by Bay Area-based cultivated seafood company, wild type. So it's not wild, but they tell you it's wild salmon when you, oh, it's wild, but it's not. It's not even salmon. Yeah, man. Right. So there are literally news stories about this brand of salmon being lab grown.

So I'm not sure what point Alex is trying to make. The only reason he's even heard of their name is because someone wrote a press release about it being served at this restaurant. And then folks, like, who Alex follows on Twitter, got mad about it. There's no trickery here. And the only reason this even happened is because Trump's FDA approved their salmon for public sale back in May. Oh, my God. So the wild type, name of a company. No one's being tricked.

They're trying to actually get more people. to the restaurant by advertising, hey, we got this fake salmon. Yeah. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. All right. These swimming pools of fake salmon.

Mm-hmm. Do you see yourself being able to, like, if you were giving a guided tour, would you be able to grab a spoon and be like, take a little spoon? Like, have a taste of salmon for yourself. Texturally. Mm-hmm. Spork. But yeah. I think that's wise.

Yeah. I'm actually kind of imagining, like, does Alex think there are fins? Right. That's what I'm... Right, right, right. Does he think you still need to clean it? What level of recreating fake salmon does he think... I mean, obviously, we know that it's not like they're putting it in salmon-shaped molds and then, you know...

They're not also recreating scales. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But does he think that? Right. Yeah. That's the million-dollar question. And I don't know.

I don't know either. Yeah. So they use this name, Wild Type, to try and trick you. Okay. Because they want to trick you into eating this fake meat, and that's why they use the women. Don't they have on the, like, menu, like, fake salmon or even a press release that's probably available that they themselves put out. Yeah. Yeah. They made a big deal out of it. Yeah. Area-based cultivated seafood. Seafood. It's not seafood. It's grown in the lab. Cultivated seafood, wild.

What did they call their company with the fake butter? Savor. It's savory. Everything. Like listing again, a deadly poison like cyanide is applesauce. Lab-grown salmon is now FDA approved. Here's why this one restaurant is putting it on the menu. It's the hottest restaurant, the Haitian restaurant.

Wow. Haitians are definitely known with their cuisine. Well, they're black. We better eat it. So that was quite a leap. What are we doing? Whoa. So this company, Wild Type, makes lab-grown salmon products, and a completely separate restaurant decided to incorporate it into a dish after the FDA approved the salmon.

Yeah. That restaurant serves Haitian cuisine, which Alex associates with black people, so it must be a ploy to stop people from questioning the meat. This is a dude who thinks that women are trying to trick him into eating fake butter, and he'll be called a racist for not eating fake salmon. Yep. This is sad. Do you know what? This reminds me of when I was growing up, there was a certain type of dude who you would be out with

and maybe you'd just be walking and then you'd be talking and then he'd do like a nut tap where he'd just smash you in the balls real hard. Right? That hit of racism at the end, that was a nut tap to me. That was exactly like, Jesus, man, ow! Like what the fuck just happened? There's no need for that. No.

No. No, there's not. No. Don't be that guy. Don't be that guy. I love, though, that this show has deteriorated into Alex trying. They're just being so suspicious about black people and women trying to make him eat fake foods. What in the world could you possibly?

Why would they? What? Well. What? We might have an answer a little bit later. All right. So we're in the meeting. Mm-hmm.

Right? Where we're trying to sell people fake salmon. Mm-hmm. All right. We're people who are in the real world. thinking about how the real world works, right? Is our first thought like, oh, America responds well to black people and women? Yep.

They're not scared of women. Right. And they don't want to turn down fake salmon from a Haitian restaurant because they'll be called racist. You know what? If I was going to work with McKinsey Consulting, I doubt that would be their decision. Probably. Just saying. So here is what I would say is one of the finer moments of recent memory on Alex's show.

Alex is talking about, he finally is done with the complaining about the ladies and the butter. We're free of that. Talked about the salmon a little bit. Now we got to talk about cancer cells. We got to talk about the immortal cell lines. Right. Henry Adelaix. Yep, yep. It's not me.

That's false advertising. Who's afraid of lab grown meat? Yeah, what's you wrong, pussy? Science has created immortal human lipid cells. Now, let's talk about in most of these companies how they're producing it. Growth hormone,

immortal cell lines, and then they just emulsify the cells of whatever it is they want to copy, and then the cancer grabs it and then uses the vitamin water, basically. I don't mean the actual company, vitamins and sugar and then it just produces this giant cancer blob and they call it beef that's such a good

explanation that's good that's good i imagine i imagine getting so many degrees working so hard for so long learning so much and then being at like a dinner party and just having to try and explain even the slightest bit of it to Alex and then just going fuck it you know what happens we put some stuff into a little petri dish

and then you get meat that's what happens it would go the opposite direction like Alex would be like oh you think you're so smart with what you do at your job it's just a blah blah yeah that's fair that's fair trying alpha you

oh you use syringes we all use syringes So Alex has quite a headline there about immortal human lipid cells being created by these scientists. Yes, absolutely. So lipids are a group of chemical compounds in the body that take a bunch of different forms, but one of the main ones is fats and oils. Sure. This is why the news about the butter is so important, because they claim they're just coming up with this fatty oil out of nowhere, but isn't it just a coincidence that scientists created an immortal human lipid cell line? It's almost too big of a coincidence to ignore.

Well, I mean, in a sense it is a coincidence, but also at the same time, in a sense, it's more that one is not possible without the other being true. Well, I have other news for you. Uh-oh. Alex misread the headline. Oh, no. The actual headline is, quote,

scientists have created immortal human lip cells. Lip, not lipid. This is about researchers at the University of Bern successfully. immortalizing a lip cell line for the first time, which is a big breakthrough and has nothing to do with fake meat. No, that seems cool. This is art. Alex has been teasing this immortal cell shit for the whole episode, and then when it's

time to pull out the source, he misread a headline, but he's in too deep to bail. Absolutely. I want you to listen to this moment again. Science has created immortal human lipid cells. Now, let's talk about... He knows that didn't say lipid. Fuck. I do like it whenever his pauses are swear words.

Yep. That is nice because we've seen it a lot, especially when trying to read where he just goes, fuck, silently. I appreciate it. Yep. Yep. This, like, that's poise, though, too. Yeah.

That's a guy who realizes, like, can't go back. Can't go back now. Nope. Too late. If I stop running full speed, I'm going to. No. A lot of people would have read the word, hit a brick wall, and then. have scrambled.

Like, they would have panicked. They wouldn't have been able to pull it off. That plane is getting crashed into that mountain. This was fantastic. Yeah. Sometimes it's just good. Just a little pause that you can clearly tell. Whoops.

Oh, boy. If I keep running, I'll never fall. Yep. Yep. So why not keep running? Why not keep running? CNN. Lab grown meats cleared for sale.

Go read about immortal cell lines. just type it in type it in henrietta lax and one other person their cells never die you mix anything it just copies them they call her cell line

her family gets paid a patent on now heila henrietta lax yeah man millions and millions of tons every year of her cells created Henrietta Lacks, Immortal Cell Line. Here she is right here.

She came in a couple weeks. This blob grew ate her whole body. It was a giant amoebo sitting there on the hospital bed. I'm sorry? See what this does. And now you eat it. A spontaneously immortalized muscles stem cell line from brown marbled grouper for cell cultured,

meat production. You can just read all about Gruper and salmon and everything. And they just, they just splice it in with her, just call it that. So you know you're eating a black woman's cancer stuff? So that article that Alex thought was about lipid cells, but was about lips. Yeah.

Talks about how the researchers were able to create that line from donated cells from two people who are currently alive. Sure. The name immortal cell line sounds like something otherworldly or magical, but it's really not. Nope. Alex thinks that there are only two cell lines

that have ever been immortal, which come from Henrietta Lacks and some unidentified child. Yep, yeah. Because he thinks all immortal cell lines come from these two sources, whenever he sees those words, he assumes that it must be about human cells

from one of them. Yep. The headline that he reads off there about Grupper is from a 2024 article in the journal Communications Biology, titled, quote, a spontaneously immortalized muscle stem cell line from brown marbled grouper for cell-cultured fish meat production. This is about fish muscle cells.

It has nothing to do with Henrietta Lacks. This is crazy. Yeah, yeah, maybe, maybe. Okay, so if I'm looking at two options, all right, tell the truth, we're in a very smart, people have figured out all kinds of very smart things, and I look like an idiot, or lie my balls off and call people cannibals. There are reasons to be wary of technologies like this.

Sure. You don't have to be stupid to be skeptical. And it's so funny that Alex can't. He has to be stupid. Just be fine. Just it's fine. It's fine. If you're going to get pulled.

poisoned by fake butter, there's no way you're going to be able to stop it, right? Like, if you can see a fake butter poisoning coming, then they shouldn't even do the fake butter plan. Mm-hmm. Right? Sure. I mean, I think, again, we get to the issue of all air being replaced by butter. Yeah. And what, you know, the scientists will be bitten by the snake.

They tried to charm. The butter singularity is going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. So anybody would, you know, you'd not start the process because you know that this is. inevitably what's going to happen my wife loves a butter that would be that would be her chosen way to go the butter singularity yeah i mean look it's savory it's that's what they want you to think sure so uh alec starts to think about this he's like all right i have just described uh the blob

yep and exactly it absorbs everything and becomes bigger uh-huh and so henry delex her all body became a big old blob if i understand correctly that is what he said and then they just started adding it to things and then like, oh, hey, we can make beef. Blu-de-l-l-l-loop. So he started to think about this. And I believe at some point, live on air, he realizes, why would it ever stop? Good question. So if I'm buying a steak that is this.

That self-grows. It's going to, if I leave it in the fridge or whatever, it's going to become two stakes. Right. And then four. and then eight and then 16 that is how it works and then we're going to get into that grain of rice thing with the prints and it's going to be an issue chess board yeah yeah it's going to be a problem and so Alex is like you better just cook it I mean that'll stop it what do we call cancer cell blobs we're going to sell them tumors of hyperactive cancer cells that take over everything well you oh you I'm just thinking you better cook this lab grown meat really good because if you absorb While this has hit me, if you eat Say it.

A living, undead, uncooked, immortal cell line that takes over any cells around it. Yep. That means. Oh, my God. What's the COVID shot? It goes in and turns off your right muscle. Causes cancer. My God.

Good Lord. I mean, and then, and then you've got all the big, big pharma companies saying, oh, cancer's about to go up 5,000 percent in the last couple years. It is going up right now. You go straight up and they're like, and everybody's going to be eating this. Oh, honey, let's go out and have some wild salmon tonight. I only pay $50 for this. This is wild card. Oh, good Lord.

He's cracked the code. He's figured it all out. I don't know what to do with that. Oh, good Lord. Oh, good Lord. Oh, good Lord. See, I want to talk about that specific moment with you Because I really don't know if Alex is taking himself seriously in that moment.

100%. Has he given up on himself? I was, I've, because the tone is problematic. The tone sounds fake. The tone sounds incredibly fake. The tone sounds like fucking Adam West is saying, oh good Lord, the Joker is out again. Yeah, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. It's tongue and cheek. But at the same time... No, no, no. I don't know my tongue-in-cheek. I don't know my tongue-in-cheek. I meant Adam West. Sure.

Right, right. His, but his has the similar tone to that, which makes it difficult for me to say that it's a genuine, oh, good Lord, as in fear of this brilliant plan that he stumbled upon. Yeah. Right. Like, I think what it feels like to me is someone who hasn't convinced himself. Right.

And he can't really even get it up to... Oh, good Lord. Just like, oh, hey. if you eat the beef it'll give you cancer because it'll the cells and the COVID shot was to wipe out your immune system

so you couldn't fight the beef the fake beef is you're right is this him being like I can no longer get it up but this is my ED this is what it looks like

this is what it looks like this has never happened to me before I can't get it up for this I guess the meat is going to become everything bullshit I think I think some of it has to be because of the lipid thing. No, you're right.

I think that even though he valiantly battled through that headline, even though he did not show any sign of losing his momentum in the moment, I think it took its toll. I think the friction of that has gotten him to the point where, like, I don't want to overcommit to this because by tomorrow, I'm not going to be able to use this headline anymore. Nope. So. Shouldn't have be used it today. Yeah.

The beef is going to take over. The beef is going to take. Oh, good Lord. Oh, God, you guys. I've, ah, I can't. I fucked up. I fucked up, guys. This one's on me.

Maybe try the butter. It's probably going to be fine. That's, but I feel like this at the end here. Oh, good Lord. Oh, good Lord. That's why you storm off. That's why. You're right.

When you have that headline, you pretend that there's a tech problem and you just get off air, regrouped. Because you're going to end up in a situation where you're like, better cook that, cook that beef well. You better cook that cancer well. That's where you ended up. Better cook that. You better cook that well.

We've already established that you've bought the fake meat. You're fucked. According to Alex, you've already bought the fake meat. But you've got the fake meat. You've been tricked by the globalist. It's called wild type. You're like, oh, well, but then the globalist plan can be foiled by proper cooking. If I understand correctly in Alex's worldview.

But yeah, yeah. You got to get a meat thermometer. You got to have, it's got to be well done. No, it's not a meat thermometer. Oh, shit. Oh, good Lord. Oh, good Lord. They're trying to change everything.

It's not a meat thermometer. It's a cancer gooey thermometer. It's a helo thermometer. Oh, boy. So anyway, that was a lot of fun. And I'd like to remind you that this episode started with him encouraging war with Mexico. Yep, yep. and then turned into a tirade about fake butter based on a misreading of a headline.

Yeah. You know, you know, I will say, you know what I would say? I would say this. You know, like when you think about reading history books and they tell you the things that happened, it's sometimes hard to put yourself in the mind of somebody who's living through the thing that happened, right? So you can find out that all of these characters are actually ridiculous characters later on. But in the moment, you're like, this is the government. This is the emperor of Rome saying.

something, right? It's hard to imagine living through the vat of pool of salmon stuff being real and then just, oh, I guess that's fine. Yeah, just throw a little bit of, throw a little salmon steak into the pool and you're just a pool-sized vat of undulating salmon cancer cells. Mm-hmm. And it had to be a pool, too, because he's thinking about swimming because of fish. Yep. So, like, you wouldn't have a pool full of beef.

Why? Why would you have a pool full of beef? It doesn't, aren't barrels? Don't they exist for a reason? Yeah, barrel beef. Yeah, it's got to be a barrel. It's got to be a barrel. Fish are in a pool.

You could grow in casks. We could have, like, aged fake meat. Yeah, that's the way to do it. But that's the thing. Once they crack that nut, you can age immediately. Yeah. You can age that meat. You're right.

You're right. There's just no, there's no end to it. And that's why the poison's going to be in the butter, obviously. Yep. Yep. Because put a little butter on your fake steak. It's good that way. Double dead.

It's good that way. Dear God. Oh, dear God. So, anyway, Trump has taken over D.C. That's the takeaway from this episode in particular. And Alex is spent his evening talking about butter. We will check back in to see how Alex responds. once Trump actually has deployed some of these forces,

and Alex is forced to justify and to defend this. But until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX. Clark. I am the mysterious professor.

Woo! Yeah! Woo! Yeah! Woo! And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. and I love your work. I love you.