Knowledge Fight - #1070: August 12, 2025

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan pop in to discuss the underwhelming response Alex has to Trump sending the National Guard into DC, and how he has far less of a problem with this than the Epstein cover-up.

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Knowledge fight. Knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Hey, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around,

worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Josh. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Dan. Great question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? Well, I would like to say, for my bright spot, I'd like to open with a poem.

Okay. All right. And I'd like for you to try to guess who I'm reading the work of. Okay. I'm the professor, and all I can tell you is, while you're still sleeping, the saints are still weeping. Because things that you call dead have yet, I haven't yet had the chance to be born. Hmm.

Don't know. Isn't that heavy, though? It is. You know, you're sleeping. The saints are weeping. Yep. Because things that you call dead. Right.

Haven't had a chance to be born. Is this Doctor Who? No. Oh. Scatman. Because of our conversation of the last episode. Have you recently gotten a tattoo? No.

I was pretty close. Okay. Because of our conversation on the last episode, I went back and I was listening to Scatman. And that's a lyric in Scatman, just his big hit. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. The part I cut out was the line right before that is, I hear you all ask about the meaning of Scat. Well, I'm the professor, and all I can tell you is while you're still sleeping, the saints are still weeping. Because things you call dead haven't yet had the chance to be born.

I'm the Scatman. Is he talking about Scat? yeah is scat something that hasn't that you think is dead but hasn't really been born yet i don't know is that what we're it's so much more philosophical than than it has any business being i think that yeah i think that's bad that to me that's my reading of it sure my interpretation there so anyway i fell down a deep hole yeah of watching scatman's videos you fell down a scat hole yeah if you will and uh i don't know if i had ever seen this video before uh i might have and just forgot. But even if I had, it delighted me so much. So scatman was huge in Japan. Right.

Right. He had, his career really took off huge over there. Great. So there's a video on YouTube of a Japanese show where there's a guy doing a scatman impression. Oh, boy. And he's, he's doing like karaoke of scatman. Right. And then the scatman comes out. Okay. The place goes crazy. I mean, we're talking like 1998 Stone Cold Steve Austin pop. Like, they lose their shit. They're so excited to see the scatman. I love, here's what I love about that. I don't think if the scatman walked out,

I would be able to tell who it was. Yeah, you would. And they were all instantly like, that is the scatman. The hat and the mustache. You know. Oh, well, there is the hat and the mustache. And he's going skib-bid-da-do-d-do-do-do. Right.

But, I mean, I wouldn't know if that was for sure the scatman. could have been a scatman yeah yeah i think at that time and place that was the scatman you could be pretty sure about it but what i was what i when i was re-feeling all over again was this pure delight like there is something that is so happy about seeing this everyone's so happy to see him yeah when he comes out and then he's going skibba do but do but do but do but do but like i don't think that scat singing is dumb. Sure. And I don't think that it's not an art form and a jazzy kind of thing. Sure. But I also think it's very funny. It is. Without question. Very funny. To have a little, a little chunk like that right before and after skib-dib-d-da-da-da-up. Skibbid-a-da-wit. Yeah, that's,

yeah, that one's a little bit tough to just juxtapose. Yeah, he's got some heavy fucking lyrics and then scab-da-b-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba. I've rediscovered that what it was about him that I loved. Yeah. Just a pure delight. What we need is for, do you remember the gray album? Here's what we need. We need Danger Mouse to get on it and have Scatman do disintegration by the cure. Mixed, match the two of those up. I'm into it. Now we're talking. I also watched an interview with him where it was with MTV, uh, Europe. or something. Sure.

And he's just like clearly in a place where it's like, why the fuck am I talking to MTV? Why do they want to talk to the scat man? Agreed, yeah. I never thought I'd be famous. I mean, for what he did, for what he makes, that he is world famous is absolutely absurd. Yeah.

Yeah. And he explained that the. what he does is you turn your voice into a musical instrument. Right. No, I understand. You're like doing jazz solo, but with your mouth. Yeah, no, if you stop and you go like, Weird Al is a global superstar.

It does seem to confuse you just a little bit. He's great. He's great. Fantastic. Global superstar seems up maybe a little bit, maybe a little bit high. I think that there's something that's even more funny about the scatman. Yeah, well, absolutely.

Well, I still must insist. I'm not joking about liking him. And I think he's great. And an inspiration to people like with speech impediments. Yes. And he's, he's a, he's a, seems like a fine human being. But it is funny. It's a funny style of music.

What's you going to do? What's your bright spot? My bright spot is, if you recall, remember how my dry weed vaporizer busted. And then they sent me a new one. Well, the company came out with a new version. All technologically advance. Shit. All that kind of stuff.

And as I saw that, I was like, this is what, like, I had this brief moment of this is what capitalism is about, right? I bought a thing. It worked. Awesome. The company took care of me. Great. They come out with a new thing.

I go, you know what? I'm already ahead. I like you guys. Went and bought it. That simple. That's like the high of capitalism. Well, that's kind of, and as a consumer experience, it's like you're being kind of fucked, but also you're like all right but good enough no no you and i we've got a thing going on yeah this is about

as good as uh you know we're gonna get as a cut like yeah right right right we're we're entering into a business relationship that i feel like you know what we're both fine you know that kind of thing that does not happen very often anymore no not really no feels very one-sided most of the time unique to the weed business i don't i don't know what it is but man this was this was like the first time i've been like i'm already ahead this is a luxury purchase and it was great so what are what are the new uh like features it's it's got like different heating temperatures and the thing is on the side instead of the bottom and it can hold more you know whatever it's it's the same thing but better heating temperature it just sounds like wine snobbery i mean no exactly it's the same thing but

probably a little bit better the point is not that the thing is so much better i had to buy it it. The point is they earned it. Good for them. Good for them. Your bright spot has made me think of two things. One is that I should just go ahead and get a scatman tattoo. But then the second is that I should start smoking weed again just so like I could only talk in scat whenever I smoke. So if I get high, you'll know because I'll just be only say. Okay. All right. All right. I accept this. I accept this.

new you. Uh-huh. If this is the direction that you want to go down, I don't know if our professional relationship will last too much longer. Well, I don't think I would get high before the show. Oh, okay. Okay, good. I can host this as Beaker. Excellent.

But I can live as Beaker. Okay. All right. So today we got a little episode to go over. All right. Just talk about a little bit of something. Okay. And that is August 12th, 2025.

Sure. As Alex's continuation of justifying the police state that Trump is unleashing. Totally normal in D.C. continues. But things take a bit of a departure on the 13th, because that's the day that Alex's court case, the court decides that they can liquidate info wars. Right, right, right. There's another federal occupation brewing, if you will. Yeah.

But state courts. State court. Yeah, whatever. Whatever you like. So there's a little bit of a pivot that happens, which will discuss that breaking on the next episode. Sure. But for now, I just wanted to dwell a little bit in the space before that becomes an influence, and Alex is still just responding to Trump's actions. Right. Yeah, in D.C. So we'll get down to this, a little minisode. But first, let's say hello to some new wonts.

Oh, that's great idea. So first, roses are red. Alex is a drunk. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you. And congratulations to the second annual winner of the knowledge fight fantasy football league sex robots thank you so much you're a policy walk i'm a policy won thank you very much thank you and give five more examples thank you so much you're now policy walk i'm a policy won't thank you very much thank you and we got a technocrat in the mixture so thank you so much to noel if dan pronounces grueink correctly you win bingo i hope this technocrat shout out gets you higher than the hemline of some hoochie daddy shorts i wish everyone could have a boss as cool as you hold fast summer is about

is dead is the woke mind virus thank you so much you're now a technocrat i'm a policy wonk four stars go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb jar j binks has a caribbean black accent he's a loser little little kitty baby i don't want to hate black people i renounce jesus christ thank you yes thank you very much i'm sure i'm wrong do you know how to pronounce that Nope, no clue. G-R-E-W-I-N-G-K, probably like Peter or something. Oh, I read it and I, you know, I was just thinking as you read that one, I was like, I wonder if I, I wonder if I ever read the exact middle four or five words,

because if you were trying to sneak something in and you put it in the exact middle of a block of text and there's about four or five words, you probably get away with it. Because I remember that. Don't tell people that. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. trying to sneak all kinds of crazy shooter. I read it all very, very quote, specifically, yeah. And I cold read.

So we're going to start here on the 12th, and Alex has been getting a little bit of feedback about his show on the 11th, where he was very into what Trump is doing. Pro police state. Yeah, because people are like, hey, man, that you can't do that. That's your police state guy.

I've had a lot of talk show host reach out to me. I've seen a lot of clips of other talk show attacking me and saying Alex Jones was Mr. Anti-Police State. Alex Jones was the one always talking about the military being deployed in the future and how there was this big menace and all the films I made and books I wrote on it. And then suddenly he's supporting what ICE is doing. And he's supporting the deployment of the National Guard to D.C. and Chicago have needed. why he's betrayed his values.

I have done no such thing. I completely understand why Alex would say this. The alternative is accepting the criticism that he's entirely abandoned and betrayed the only thing his career was supposed to be based on, and that is a hard pill to swallow. As it stands, Alex has three paths in front of him, depending on how he wants to respond to Trump's very clear police state moves. The first is to say that Trump is doing all the shady claim the globalists we're going to do and that he's the villain this story was building up to all along.

Alex isn't interested in doing that, so I'm going to ignore that path for now, which leaves us with two. That means he gets to choose between one, accepting that his position has changed on what the police state means and explaining to the audience how it's okay for Trump to do all this stuff that was so evil for other people to do, or two, gaslight the audience into thinking this isn't what he meant by the words police state. I've listened to thousands of hours of Alex's talk,

and make it as clear as possible Alex has betrayed his principles and when you reflect on that a little bit it becomes clear that these weren't principles to begin with. They were branding elements. I know that it's easy to just say this but in order to illustrate what I meant

I want to go back to Alex's film Police State 2000 and see what he said then. What was the fear then? Back when he was taking the time to produce a coherent message about the horrors that were to come and what can we learn by comparing that to now?

Sure. So I would like to transport you back in time to the beginning of Alex's documentary Police State 2000. Does he have to edit in, does he have to make new special edition versions where he edits in a little chunk where it's like, unless Trump does it sit easy? He should.

Yeah, that'd be fine. He should talk to George Lucas about that. Yeah, exactly. Put a little, yeah. So here is where we're at the beginning of that documentary. In the next two hours, you will see hardcore documentation, evidence that is irrefutable that America is turning into a nightmarish police state, cameras on the street corners, mass checkpoints on our major interstate highways,

warrantless searches. But worst of all, you'll see America's military being perverted, being turned into an instrument of control, not an instrument of defense. So in that introduction, Alex presented four main things that represented the United States being put into a nightmarish police state. Cameras on street corners, checkpoints on the highway, warrantless searches, and the military being used for domestic control instead of defense. Obviously, all of those things are currently happening, and Trump is accelerating. DC has a network of 28,000 public and privately owned cameras that feed into a master feed at their real-time crime center, something that's under the control of the metropolitan. police department. It was launched last April and now Trump has taken over the MPD and has the

ability to abuse the surveillance tool, which includes drones, license plate readers, and all kinds of stuff far beyond cameras on street corners. Wasn't this the fucking plot of the dark night? What is happening? Well, it's part of the plot of the dark night. Or Batman begins? No, which one? Even in the movie, they're like, hey, seriously, this cannot exist. I know you think it's important now, but, like, really, we got to burn this shit. to the ground. Yeah. And look, I'm not here to say that Trump is like fully responsible for the creation of this tool or whatever, but he has now taken control of it. And you'd be a fool to think that it isn't being used. Yeah, he's the Joker. Yeah. So in his documentary, Alex is saying that

the feds are putting checkpoints on the highway, but I'm not sure if the highway part of that is all that important. Trump's feds are putting up tons of checkpoints around DC, indiscriminately stopping vehicles and asking for identification to prove people's immigration. status. There's no way for Alex to not think that this is the government viewing people as guilty until they prove themselves innocent, and it's the feds doing it. So this one I think is checked off the list. So what you're saying is that if a heavily armed man forces you to stop through the threat of violence, then forces you to identify yourself again through the threat of violence, then this would somehow be a police state. Or the threat of detent.

and perhaps maybe not violence. Ah, sure, sure. Metaphorical violence. Splitting hairs? Yep. Yep. I don't know. It feels like it.

So the third qualification is warrantless searches, which are happening all over the place. The definition of probable cause has been stretched past the point of its breaking point. And, yeah, there's plenty of people who are being detained, seized, search without warrants. It's absurd. ICE has the, like, oh, they look on white. Probable cause now. That's it. Finally, Alex points to a perversion of the military into being a tool of control, not defense.

The National Guard from D.C. has been called out, but troops have also been sent from six states to patrol D.C. And just the other day, people reported that many of them are carrying guns. Great. There's no way that the current situation doesn't qualify for Alex's definition of a nightmarish police state. At least that was the case back when he was making police state branded movies. Right. And so I think from this introduction, it's pretty clear. pretty clear that his position has changed significantly.

I can't imagine, like, what states are we talking? Like, I can't imagine being a national guardsman from fucking Tennessee in D.C. going, like, yeah, I should be here. This makes perfect sense, right? Well, you need to expand your mind then. That's crazy. You need to start thinking about the mission and the country. Man, that's nuts. We haven't even gotten to the, I mean, Trump is, you can't burn the flag.

Is he? Did just the other day. Really? We'll talk about that later. What? Yep. Why? Did we just now need to solve that?

Yeah, it was a real problem. Okay. I mean, I understand that if this was, I guess, 1981, we would be more interested in this finally being solved. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex goes on to talk a little bit more. This is still from the Police State 2000 documentary. Gotcha.

I have footage, and you're going to see it. of Marines engaging in mock gun confiscations, kicking in doors, setting up concentration camps, and working with foreign troops from China, Russia, Britain, Australia. It's incredible, my friends, and you've got to face up to it. I've got to face up to it, and we've got to take action. But perhaps, worst of all, is the Delta Force, Army Special Operations from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, slamming into South Texas towns during Operation Last Dance. Buildings ablaze, power lines down, live fire exercises,

the citizenry terrorized. Again, this isn't some foreign country. This is America. Psychological warfare against the population. So Alex is talking about footage that he has of, like, military doing training exercises meant to simulate urban environments that they might be deployed to in the war on terror. You mean like D.C.?

Sure, at this point. I think war sucks, we shouldn't do it, but we're living in a world where if you have a military, you better make sure that that military has been trained. They better be training. Yeah. If you're going to have a military, an untrained military, very clearly worse than at the very at least a trained military.

Yeah. Yeah. And so the premise of like, oh, look at these military training drills, they're so awful. Right. They must also contain get rid of the military. Yeah. Otherwise, you just want them to be like shooting from the hip. Yeah, an incompetent military is below competent military in preferences, you know.

It's a real, I mean, militaries are dangerous to begin with, but a wild one is... I mean, essentially, well, in a sense, if you wanted to get rid of the military, an untrained one would probably eventually get rid of itself. That's true. They would lose some battles. They would lose a lot of, yeah. Yeah. So Alex plays games with the videos of these exercises because the folks of the military gets to roleplay as the people. people being detained are often white Americans.

So it looks like the troops are being taught to attack people that Alex believes should be safe from oppression. It's like a Craigslist ad for act, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or someone who knows someone at the base or whatever. Yeah, absolutely. It's a bending of optics. But even beyond that, his premise is that training exercises are a perversion of the military and proof of a nightmarish police state.

What's going on in D.C. is not training. This is active. This is a thing that's happening. Yeah. He should be able to recognize the difference in severity. If training exercises are a nightmarish police state, where are we now? Well, I mean, in a way, aren't we all always training? You know, like we're all attempting to get better.

So this is, in a way, a training exercise. Hey, you know what? training them that it's okay to occupy a better. I'm down with that. As a fan of lifelong learning, you've convinced me. It's an optimistic viewpoint. Yeah. So we have one more clip from the intro to Police State 2000.

Why are armored personnel carriers being delivered every week to small towns and big cities, not for the military, but for police? Why is the military training with our police? and what's happening my friends this is the battle for the republic the enemy is not our police

and it's not our military it is those that would pervert and twist the sacred oath that our peace officers and military folks have sworn to uphold that is to defend our country

from enemies foreign and domestic it's up to you This whole criminal system, this whole undertaking that we see unfolded before our eyes, is done through ignorance. It's up to you to educate the cop that lives next door to you, or to talk to your friend who's a captain or a colonel or a general or a private in the United States military. It's up to you to educate them about what's happening and refresh their memory about history. We are repeating what happened in 1933 Germany. My friends, it's up to you.

So, different vibe. Well. Well. Good sense a whole lot of differences. Yeah. You know, in a way, it's like, this makes me frustrated, not with Alex, but with his opening talk about how other radio hosts or whatever, you know, the, the, the, whoever it is. People are saying he betrayed his principles.

Right. Right, right, right. He's responding to them in a k-fabe, you know. you know, like, I've never betrayed my principles, that whole concept. Because the truth is, like, he could stop and look at all of them and go, none of us believe in any of this shit, man. None of us ever believed in any of this shit. We sell ED pills.

That's who we are on the inside. We would say anything to sell those fucking boner pills, right? Well, I mean, you know, not anything other than like, hey, let brown people live here. Yeah. You know, selling ED pills while, you know, maintaining a social hierarchy. Two birds with one stone. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

As long as those two masters are served, then good. Yeah. Yeah, no, totally. I mean, like, the most understandable response Alex could have to, like, criticisms that he has betrayed his principles. Like, I didn't have principles. Right. I didn't betray anything. I made, I made movies.

I thought this was fun. It was fun. Yeah. And then I got rich, and now it's not fun. It's not fun anymore. It's not fun anymore. I have to defend Trump. Why?

What am I doing? It's crazy. He covered up Epstein. I should be talking about butter. I don't even know what I'm doing. I kill Gene Hackman. Oh, my God. What?

Anyway. Yep. Alex decides that his approach to this is going to be defending Trump and his actions in D.C. on the basis of there's so much crime. Right. Which I think is the worst angle he could take. Yeah.

I mean, I've got every day countless videos of car chases, murders, shootings, home invasions. And sure, it's interesting stuff. If it bleeds, it leads. I don't even show it most of the time because we just take the whole showup. You know all about it. They had a bunch of tractor trailers stolen in Los Angeles

last night or not before. huge high-speed chases and crashes and the cops couldn't get them. I mean, I've got like seven or eight other videos in Texas of high-speed chases with illegal aliens yesterday. I mean, I can't even keep track of this. Alex may have seen a ton of videos stuff posted to Twitter,

but he doesn't know what any of it is, and he can't report any of this stuff accurately. Right. So in L.A., there weren't a bunch of tractor trailers stolen leading to a ton of crashes that ended up in all this kind of crazy shit. Sure. two guys stole a pickup truck

and then they led the police on a bit of a chase They ended up driving down the wrong way on the highway And they stopped a semi truck by blocking traffic So then they had a gun So they stole the semi Which was hauling something But no one really knew what it was Oh my God

This created a really touchy situation Where it could be a huge truck full of gasoline Or some kind of toxic chemical So it had to be more or less treated Like a giant possible bomb Yeah absolutely this is a borderline explosive yeah yeah yeah so now we have a car chase with a uh we don't know what's in this tank exactly it could be pallets of concrete or it could be explosions uh you'll never

know it was a cylindrical tube oh that's the worst kind you would assume it was a liquid i don't want that kind of tube it could be explosive or it could be water yeah you know like it was sure the people who are covering it from the helicopter and stuff we're like we don't know what's on And if I'm, if I'm stealing, listen, I'm all for the stealing of the semi. You got to do what you got to do. You're in a car chase, right? It makes sense. But even if I'm in the middle of a car chase, if I see one of the tubes, I'm like,

ah, I can't steal that one. I don't, I'm not, I'm not prepared to take responsibility for whatever happens next. This could go bad so fast. Yeah, absolutely. And like, I just wanted a pickup truck, man. Like, if you assume that it's possibly like radioactive material or something, too, like, you don't want to take responsibility for that. I just was stealing a truck.

Just stealing a truck, man. I don't want to hurt people that bad. This all got out of hand. Yeah. So the chase went on for a while before the carjackers pulled up under an overpass and they fled on foot and then they stole another truck. Nice. All in all, the chase went on about an hour and a half and the police did not end up catching

them. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Get it. Get it! See, I think I understand what that reaction is because it's. because it's nuts that they stole this semi-truck and managed to get away. But it also started with them carjacking someone.

So it's not like... No, no, no, no, this is an issue. I understand all of this. This is not a, oh, they got away. Listen, here's the problem. This isn't smoky and the bandit. Here's the problem. Car chases really probably shouldn't happen at all, right?

Like when we get down to it, they're probably just more dangerous than being like, you know what? Your car has a tracking device. We'll catch it tomorrow. I think studies have shown that there's, They're not necessarily... Everybody's doing a bad job once we're into the car chase part of it. I appreciate that the pre-car chase part of it, you've got to face consequences for that.

The spectacle is pretty amazing. Pretty great. When you fuck around and steal a semi-truck. I mean, and when? Oh, that's America is what that is. Yeah. And you successfully make two transfers between vehicles while the police are chasing you. That's insane.

Yeah, that's an inspiration. in some ways. So as far as I can tell, also, this is great news for you. Your heroes have not been arrested at this point. I don't know. They should probably face something about that carjacking. Sure. Yeah.

And at gunpoint stealing a semi from somebody. Sure, but that was, again, that was extenuating circumstances. And the third car. This third car is, that's, you might as well steal the third car. Sure. Might as well. It's all nuts. This is all crazy stuff.

But I don't know if this. justifies martial law or calling out the National Guard. Like this is, yeah, sure, that's a spectacle. That's a huge, crazy car chase thing in L.A. Yeah. But I don't think you need the National Guard because of this. Well, even, so even, even if you want to say that the level of danger is great enough to warrant a, like, greater response, I don't think anything the National Guard is good at

would not ultimately wind up with an exploding semi-truck, right? Sure, sure. Like, that's what they're good at, and they're great at it. But also, like, the circumstances of this were not like they set out to steal that semi. Totally. It happened because it was right there when they were fleeing in the truck that they stole that maybe was running out of gas or something. Right.

The danger of someone stealing a semi is exactly the same as it was every other day. before that and after. Yeah. This was a freak set of circumstances that ended up in this. And I don't think any greater law enforcement would be able to stop you from being in that moment. It's just an upgrade in weaponry, right? Like the, and a lack of, what, useful training? Like, in terms of being able to stop any sort of violent crime within a city that's like,

a thing that's happening, what training does the National Guard have that they could like rely on to help solve these problems? Cognitive therapy? They chat with people? I mean, well, you know, I'm glad our National Guard is learning multiple skills. Yeah, no, I don't know. I don't know. It's strange to me that this is, this is the angle that Alex is taking.

Yeah. It's like, well, look at this. The crime, we have to do this. How much crime, what level, okay, how about this? What amount of the population has to be actively engaged in a criminal act to justify the National Guard being called in? Like, is it, if 30% of D.C. was committing a crime against the other, another 30% of D.C. Would that be like, hey, listen, we need to call the National Guard in for this? Well, I don't know if that number is meaningful because you could just change the definition of who is committing a crime in order to get to that.

that 30 if you want. Okay, that's fair. So, like, I don't know if ever creating a hard and fast line is meaningful. Sure. Because you could just cheat a different variable. All right. So everybody's doing straight up murders. Okay.

How many straight up murders are we talking before? It's like, we got to call the National Guard in. It feels like if you get to a point where you need to, you know, like, there's no National Guard left. They've all been murdered. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to say this is a self-solving.

It feels like that's where we're going, though. I think if we reach the point, I think essentially that you've kind of hit the nail on the head. If we reach the point where it makes sense to call the National Guard in for crime, we've already reached too far of a point for it to matter that you're calling in the National Guard about crime. The implications of how everything will be are going to be like, I think if you reach the point where you need to call in the National Guard, the National Guard showing up is not

something you'd notice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're too busy being murdered. Right, right. So, look, there's good martial law, maybe. Is there? Maybe it's a good police state. Okay.

Maybe. Okay. They have started the crisis. They have started the problem. This is not Trump with troops running checkpoints because you can't go outside your houses during a viral release like the Democrats did and globalists in all of the world. This isn't, no, no, no, no. this is Trump saying okay we'll put FBI just on the streets

we'll put National Guard on the streets in the high crime areas just so the criminals know that there's a new sheriff in town and you just can't run around robbing and stealing and killing and I mean you understand in Illinois

in California and in Washington in Oregon and a bunch of the places in New York in D.C. They've closed most of the Walgreens most of the CVS's, most of the Walmarts, most of the targets in these cities have closed. Drones, these people just come in and just start robbing, you've seen it, everything off the shelves because the DAs won't prosecute them.

They pass laws in states where you're only allowed to steal $3,000 a day in one state, another state, you can steal $5,000 per store. That's nice. That's a good deal. and then the sport of shoving white people in front of subway trains and the knockout game 15 to 1 black-on-white crime conservatively remarkable I think we know why that the National Guard should be called in for Alex yeah I think we know what he's thinking I think that one's clear so the premise of Alex's career is that

there's no such thing as good martial law there's no benevolent police They will justify their existence by pointing to exaggerations of crime, but they don't exist to solve those issues. They exist to consolidate power. His whole career was based on the idea that the globalists are trying to exaggerate the level of danger that the militia and extreme right-wing movements presented as a domestic terror threat, because if they could justify cracking down on those groups,

they could use that as a means of expanding their power. These groups would be labeled terrorists, so you would have, you'd be fine with, them having their guns taken away and just like that no one really has a second amendment anymore but they would never come out and say that they just wanted to get rid of the second amendment it would always be sold to you as an extension of what they need to do in order to solve the huge crime problem that the militia people represent i don't agree with alex and i think that the militia and right-wing people were and still are a legitimate danger to public safety

but if you just stipulate that he's right and go with this premise it helps you clearly see how he shifted his role in the media space. Previously, he was working to minimize the fear and sense of danger around these extreme right-wing groups, and his ostensible reason for doing so was that if that fear was low, the globalists couldn't use it to justify launching their police state. They needed you to be scared, because a scared population is more controllable, but if you could wake up and see that you didn't need to be scared of these militia people, you'd realize that the globalists were playing you.

They weren't escalating police state stuff in order to protect you from a severe threat. They were exaggerating a minor threat in order to convince you that you needed their tyranny to protect yourself from it. Now Alex's positioning is basically reversed. The Trump administration is actively involved in exaggerating the threat of local crime and using that exaggerated threat to justify an expansion of their police state actions. If Alex were the same person that he was in the mid-2000s, then you would expect that his position would be that, Yeah, there's a lot of crime, but that doesn't justify federal troops on the streets.

Even if some of Trump's actions could be defended as technically legal, Alex would understand that they're basic violations of the spirit of what he stands for. But instead, we see Alex working to amp up and further exaggerate the fear around Trump's rationale for seizing power. This fact tells us something important, which is that in the past, Alex was not being honest about why he was minimizing the danger that white supremacists and militias presented. He acted like the fear was being exaggerated by the globalists in order to use it as an excuse to take over, but the truth is he just likes white supremacists and militias. No matter how much violence or domestic terror they might carry out,

he would be minimizing it and arguing that no federal law enforcement response would be appropriate. On the flip side of the coin, Alex views local crime in urban areas as being something that's mostly being done by black people, so police state actions being carried out against these populations doesn't bother him. he's not part of that group he doesn't feel like it's going to affect him so he doesn't care yep the whole premise of his like career hinges on a police state affects all of us no matter what it's being done it affects all of us yep um and that's just not true he does not believe that that is rhetoric that he has deployed yeah when chit's targeting groups that he doesn't feel like he's a part of or he feels safe from the tyrannical power.

Yeah. He's all in favor of it. Yeah. You know, the thought occurs to me. In the abstract, I understand that the phrase technically legal can be neutral, right? In practicality, though, I have never heard technically legal used in any way other than these people are screwing you over and it's technically okay. Well, yeah, legal technicalities are often, they're rarely the underdog story

of someone getting away with something that is fine and benevolent. It's usually like, oh, we wrote this into the law to fuck you and because you're not allowed to be in, you think you should be able to stop this, but you can't. You can't. Is that crazy?

Yeah. So I just, I find his position abhor, honestly. I think that this is, uh, anybody who has engagement, with Alex's career. Anybody who has enough, like, experience with what he believes, what he's put out, seeing his early work, believes words mean things. Yep.

Anybody who has that, this is just self-defeating. Yeah. It's, it's, and, and it is boring. Yeah. It's, it's terrifying and the real world is scary. Yeah. And all that does mean something. And I don't want to minimize that.

But Alex's response in this case is fucking boring. It is a tired, racist old man just being worthless. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. When you think of the banality of evil, you tend to assume a kind of low-key personality associated with it. But you can also be incredibly loud in banal. Yeah.

You know, that's what you get. Well, you know, I think that this is also indicative of like his, his, uh, personality has gotten way less flamboyant as he's gotten further and further away from what made him interesting yeah okay let me ask you this question all right write the episode of law and order with the national guard in it in a helping way right because all i got you oh yeah well does it have to be special victims unit doesn't have to be special any episode of law and order with the national Guard in it. Okay, well, it would have to be, like, in the aftermath of, like, a natural disaster. Okay.

Helping respond to a natural disaster. In an episode of Law and Order? Sure. I could see an episode of criminal intent. Like, maybe someone's committing a crime while a hurricane's happening. If you see the movie Hurricane Heist? Okay. That's fine. But then what's the part in order? So the National Guard has to be involved in both law and order, right? So you got the National Guard in law.

They're helping people do the whole thing. Now they're in the courtroom. What does the National Guard do there? Hmm. Well, I don't think, not every episode involves the order. Is that true? Yeah. It is just a title. I'm thinking of flagship law and order. For me, the law and order structure is we spend the first 20 minutes with those two detectives run around asking people what's going on while they move stuff from one thing to another thing. And then the next 20 minutes is the other guy is in court going like, ah! And then a dramatic thing happens and then it resolves.

Yeah, I don't think, I think that. As the show went on, there was less, like, those two elements. Hmm. And they split off more. Okay. Granted, the DA would certainly still yell at the cops and stuff. And they're like, what am I going to take to the courtroom? Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

You know, there's definitely that. This isn't enough or this is the wrong kind. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That character exists. Yeah. But they, you know, they went to, like, law and order trial by jury. What? That was more of the courtroom setting kind of stuff.

Trial by, okay. Yeah, that was their spin-off. one wild whereas like you know special victims unit criminal intent those were more like crime of the week oh i suppose you're right yeah hmm how about that the law and order franchise i i get where you're coming from they did drop the order a little bit from it but i was just i was just a man who watched the first 10 season of law and order pretty pretty consistently and then now i've just dipped back in and out and i guess that was 40 years let me flip the question back on you yeah where would you expect the national guard to be in the courtroom

See, this is the thing. What I see in my head is the National Guard is with the cops and they're going to question somebody and then the cops are like, knock on the door. And the National Guard kicks the door in and grabs the people and pulls them out. And the cops are like, that's unconstitutional. And then we go to the order part and the judge is like, that was unconstitutional. I'm not allowing it. And then the National Guard is like, actually you are. And then the judge cries and then the episode is over and the they want.

Yeah, exactly. They are allowed to do whatever they want. It's a bad episode. Yeah. See, I don't, I'm not sure. Let me call Dick Wolf. Dick Wolf, get on it. Um, bum.

So I think that one of the things, like, I'm, I'm fine with just my thesis is this is a bore. Yeah. This is the left creating chaos, creating their own form of martial law, which means the normal law is not being followed. You can have a grassroots, Soros-funded chaos martial law, or you can have one from the top where the regular laws and rights. are suspended. Trump's not suspending anybody's rights. And everything he's done with ICE and everything he's doing with the National Guard is 100% constitutional. And quite frankly, if you actually study it, he's ramping up as fast as he can, but most people that are informed are pissed that there's not more. They want civil war conditions

in this country. Now stores all over Europe, all over the U.S., all over Canada, are putting locks on even TV dinner stuff. It's not the cologne and expensive things that are locked up. It's everything. So they've created the climate of collapse. They know exactly what they're doing. And Trump is bringing back law and order as best he can. So this is just a childish position where no matter what happens, it's the left's fault. If Obama creates a Muslim caliphate out of the United States, then it's the United States. the top-down left tyrannical plan obviously if trump takes over dc with federal troops it was just to

stop the left's grassroots tyrannical plans oh we're crazy this is boring yeah it's just uh it's there's an interesting contrast yeah i think in that supporting trump uh doing this is invalidating of alex's career for sure also supporting trump covering up the epstein thing would be invalidating of his career. Absolutely. He has so much less of a problem with this than he did. That is a really good point. Yeah.

That is a really good point. And I think part of the reason is because he wasn't mad about Trump doing anything with Epstein or anything. He just wanted him to shut up. Yeah, they handled the looks wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The optics were bad. He was super mad about like, I can't work with this. You're not playing your role correctly. Right. He has no problem here, really, because Trump's doing exactly what he should be doing. Yeah. Showing force, being super strong, trampling on people.

It's annoying because I feel like if you really just got to him, he'd be like, you know, D.C. is like the blackest city in America. So, yeah, of course I'm fine with him putting troops in there. That's it. If Alex could be on some kind of truth drug or something like that, I imagine that's what he would. I'll burn down Atlanta. I knew it. I caught you, you mother. Yeah.

I don't think that at core, it's that much more complicated. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to, it's hard to see. Okay. In the past, we could kind of just figure that out, context, clues. You know, you can generally sense this. This is an actual follow-through of the very core concept.

Like, yeah. Yeah. The core concept has been violated. You have to see that he doesn't believe any of this shit. He can't. And he didn't before. Yeah. Or if he did before, then he needs to explain what changed.

Yeah. Like, I would accept an explanation for what changed why this is okay. And one explanation that I'm not going to accept is crime is out of control. That one's not okay. Because that's something that he would have made fun of earlier in his career. Right. Some politician saying the crime is out of control. Are you fucking kidding?

Yeah. of course of course so if you need more evidence that this has racial tinges to it oh yeah it is the globalist that said they would

destabilize society and collapse it and cause a civil war Trump is trying to stop it with a show of force and it's a band-aid on a bigger problem we need the Soros TAs removed

a bunch of them committed crimes we need them indicted some of that's happening we have to take politically out the lawfully the leadership of this system so here's Trump with a short analogy which is totally true

of you walk in a restaurant and the front door's dirty and the floor's dirty well you know the kitchen's dirty and there's cockroaches walking around and everybody's like that's simple well if a city has feces and needles and crime we do in broken windows again

you know you're not in a safe society and that's been done by design to undermine and demoralize us that's what all of this is about they admit it and take it a need or in the national anthem all of it is to break your will and trump is coming and saying no our will is not broken our will is strong so i feel like alex should be much more worried about a leader sending in national guard troops as a show of force but i guess he's really scared about crime in cities he doesn't live in and you can tell how much of this really is just a racism thing and how it comes back to Alex's feelings of white victimhood because he brings up taking a knee at football games as something that's breaking society's will

Colin Kaepernick was doing that in 2016 that's almost a decade ago wow this isn't a subject that's been relevant in a long time and Alex isn't even supposed to care about football his mind can come up with that because he has strong feelings about feeling slighted by this Yep. Because he's fundamentally racist. Yeah, man. You can't, how can you be so racist that a guy taking a kneel on a totally voluntarily missable thing? Jamaica statement about police brutality.

Justifies the military showing up. That's wild. Now, I know I made multiple documentaries about. about fears about the police state. Right. But 10 years ago. 10 years ago, one guy took a knee because a lot of black people are getting murdered by the cops. And then some other people started taking a knee as well.

Right. And I was worried they would pick up Steve. Yeah, that was the problem. Yeah. Jesus Christ. That's pathetic. So anyway, I don't really care about the rest of this episode. I just think that there's a fundamental complaint that Alex makes.

And that is that, hey, everyone's saying that I betrayed my. principles. Yeah. If you examine his principles, it would appear that way. Right. But the explanation is kind of simpler, and that is that there weren't principles to begin with, holding him to, like, being the guy who would be against an actual martial law kind of situation is foolish.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, at a certain point, you are arguing with an illusion. you are you're no longer capable of arguing with a a person who exists like if you are saying oh I didn't betray my principles then you are creating an illusion there's no point in even discussing this you know yeah and that's I think that that's part of the reason why it's more interesting and I think more worthy of examination the time when he's dealing with the Epstein fallout and all that stuff yeah as opposed to this this is kind of on its face just a like

Oh, I'm a racist, yeah. I would like civil war conditions in a very different sense. Yeah, I would like Trump to do a show of force using National Guard troops because there's too much crime. The fuck are you talking about? Yeah. It's shocking, in a sense, and I think that as time goes on, he'll definitely have to bend over in a pretzel and, you know, contort himself to justify the various things

that happen. Yeah. But you can see how much simpler it is. Yeah, if you, it's, it's almost, it's, it's like that at water quote in a sense of like, well, you know, you can say you want separate water fountains or you can say that the National Guard should be in D.C. It's up to you what you want to say, but they mean the fucking same thing, you know? Yeah. At the end of the day. Yep.

So we'll be back to see what happens when Alex's business gets liquidated. but for now this is his heart and soul Baird for all to see Empty self-contradictory and boring Anyway we'll be back

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