Knowledge Fight - #1072: August 15, 2025

Episode Date: September 1, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan take a short walk through Infowars coverage of the most important issues of the day, like martial law, foreign wars, and raffled trucks. Tickets now available for our Portland show here

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I'm a huge fan. I love your world. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight.com. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan.

We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Sleen, and talk a little about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? Which bright spot today, buddy? Why don't you go first?

My bright spot today is I watched, or I think I re-watched Ricky Jay and his 52 assistants. The cards. The deck of cards. It's a legendary, like, magic show, but it's not a magic. It's like a one-man show in a way. you know with magic yeah exactly it's like the difference between you know like daniel sharr's show is is not a stand-up comedy show it's very funny it's a one-man show it's a one-man show there's something there's an element that separates the two of them from being just like a one person shows are more they have like a bit more monology and a structure totally yeah there's a complete story within it and this is one of the like this is a legendary uh special for that reason it's got history it's got I mean, it's just, it's just magical. And he can also throw a card into a watermelon, and that's pretty fucking cool.

You're proud of calling it magical? I am proud of calling it magical. I intend all of my puns with gusto. I don't know if I have seen that itself, but I know that I've seen a fair amount of Ricky Jay stuff in my life. And he's always, he's always fun to see pop up in a movie. Yeah, he's also one of those that guys where you're like, hey, that's that guy. Yeah, and he's one of the great. Like, it's so, it's so enthralling to watch because it is like this combination

not of that regular pitter-patter of like, hey, I'm going to do some magic for you. It's like, in 1455, there was that, you know, it's just fantastic. It's great. I have to check it out. Yeah, I would recommend it for all. Cool. How about your bright spot? Well, I thought your bright spot was going to be that tickets are on sale on Monday for our show in Portland.

Tickets are on sale today while you are listening to the. this in Portland. I thought that was going to be your bright spot, so I queued you up to go first, but then you didn't do it, so I should now take that as yours. Right. But I unfortunately have another bright spot. Awesome. Then we have a combined bright spot at the end of our separate bright spots. Hold on for that. Oh, I might not know what it is yet. It's going to blow people's minds. Um, so my bright spot is I really liked that name formulaic confections. Yeah, I think we all did. Um, and so I I have brought in a snack.

No. Oh, no, it's happening. This is a snack that I saw at the store. Whoa, those are Uts. Yeah, they're Uts. They're Uts. Chips. Oh, my God.

They're Utt's Lemonade? Yeah. So I texted some friends about having bought this. I sent a picture. Yeah. And they all responded, what do they like? And I realized that I was staring at the bag a parade to try them.

Because this is so. such a crazy potato chip flavor. Lemonade? What? They even look like lemon. The chips now have taken on the appearance of lemons. Well, to be fair, they're yellow to begin with. No, I understand, but that's my perception.

I'm going to try this. I guess you're going to try it to. Please try not to chew on the mic out of sensitivity for... You go first. This is your whole bit. I'll do a little bit of vamping so you don't chew on the mic and there's still something to listen to. From your face, I can say right now, we are getting not a...

a negative reaction, not in like, ew. No, I'm shocked. You're shocked. I'm shocked. All right, well, you describe it. I'll take my own bite. There's a fair amount of tartness to it, but it's not over the top. Because, like, I think tart in a potato chip often comes off as vinegar.

And so I think that a little bit of a sourness that this is able to convey really works for a potato chip. And I don't think lemon is that unwelcome. No, I'm shocked. I thoroughly agree with you. I am blown away by this. I kind of like them. That is good. There is, so here's the thing that I think I immediately react to is the lemonade is going to be overpowering and a chip is not the way to deliver the lemonade flavor.

Yeah, yeah. I was worried for that. That was exactly what I thought. Yeah, yeah. But this seems to be like a chip that allowed for lemonade to be nearby and then gives it a little bit of extra. Ooh. Yeah, I was kind of worried that it would just be like, oh, there's a dusting of like country time. Yeah, yeah, like a Doritos.

lemonade is the most horrifying thing I can think of. Yeah, but that's balanced. No, that's really good, actually. Damn it, Ux. I could eat, I could eat, yeah, wow. Holy shit. You're crazy, sons of bitch, and this is out of control. Wow.

I was excited to try that as we were recording, because I didn't know what direction it was going to go. Yeah. I would not have bet money that it was going to turn into we both think it's pretty good. I would have been fine if one of us thought it was okay and the other was like, eh, I don't like this, but this is, Wild. Yeah.

This is a quality chip. Unprecedented. Unprecedented. So we have a joint bright spot and that is the tickets are available. The tickets are available. The link is in the description. A Latin Peter, December 19th in Portland. And yeah, the description can click on that.

Should be live Monday. Midnight. Right away. I don't know. With some time zone. Pretty much when you're listening to this, it will be available for you to click on. If you're worried that, I don't know, we probably, listen, I'm not going to say anything. Go buy tickets.

Sure. So today, we have an episode to go over, but it's going to be a little shorty. We're going to talk short. We're going to talk a shorty? Well, we're going to talk about August 15th, 2025. All right. And I was wrestling with, hey, it's Labor Day. Right.

You know, we, there's a part of me that feels like we should take off Labor Day. In honor of all the people who have died trying to get unionized labor. Yes. I think it's an important holiday. It's been a lot of people. It would be great to recognize. that. Sure. But then I also started to think like, well, we record on Sunday. So it's not actually Labor Day when we're working. There is that. And you don't have to be at work to

listen to a podcast. You really don't. So, you know, I think people could be taking the day off and listen to a podcast. But if they do, they probably don't want to listen to like a really long podcast. Yeah, that's probably true. So let's meet in the middle. Okay. Have a little shorty. Well, I think that's a good idea. Yeah. So we'll talk about this shorty here in a second. But first, Let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. I don't like the way you say, Shorty. Lemonade has gone to my head. So first, to my amazing wife, Fenn,

happy second anniversary. Here's to many more years and adventures together and with our little ham roaming the world and listening to Knowledge Fight. Love you always, Maney. Thank you so much. You're now, a policy wonk. I'm a policy won.

Thank you very much. Thank you. Next. My brother, Edwird, where are you at, dog? Where are you at? Report to brain quarters immediately. Thank you so much. You're now, a policy won.

I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you, and Brett is a globalist. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you.

And we got a technocrat in Ex-Jordan. So thank you so much to shout out to the luchador, the summoner of fire dumpsters, and the keeper of the apocalypse. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy won't. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark, binks, jar, binks has a Caribbean black accent.

He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So, you know, we are in a position here where Alex has experienced Trump sending feds to D.C. National Guard and you know all this, and he's been pretty into it. Yep.

And this is all because Gene Hackman died entirely, I think. Yeah, we haven't figured out the exact thread, but it is somehow involved. It is all because of Gene Hackman. let Gene Hackman died, freed a demon, they got into Trump. And that's where we're at. Yeah, something like that. We'll figure out all the details

once things become declassified. I mean, you just can't deny God. If God tells you to do something, you've got to do it otherwise you're going to get invaded in D.C. That just makes sense. If you get 200 dreams about saving a celebrity, a retired actor,

do it. Basically, the free world will be in peril if you don't do it. That's our advice. That's our advice official stance. Um, so I, I just think that, you know, we come to a certain place where, like, you know, he's agreeing with all this stuff that's an invalidation of his career. Sure. He's just, like, trying to platform and legitimize a Nazi. Yeah.

Uh, he's saying, hey, anti-Semitism's cool now because people are too mean to whites. Yeh. Um, still hard to believe that one. Yeah. So, like, I don't know what could happen that would be shocking anymore, you know? That is a good question. What, like, I, I, I. feel like my job is to document this stuff, play it for you, and then you be surprised or shocked

in some way by the things that are being said. I don't like your setup. But I'm like, what can shock and surprise anymore? I mean, first off, I'm very easily startled. So you could come up from behind me with a big boo. There's a good chance that I'm going to go, ah, like that. That's true. We could get a jump scare out of you.

You could get a jump scare pretty easily. But I mean, like at a certain point, the outrage. behind, like, a response. Yeah. It's got to get watered down. It's like, this is what we expect out of this asshole now. Right, right. I mean, I still feel the rage.

Yeah. And I have it within me and it could be unleashed at any point in time. But there's also an element of like, if I'm going to keep showing up to work every day, we can't always be this rage filled. Yeah. Right. But, you know, I just think, I think that we're at a place where he's got to do something really, really bad in order for it to even rank. Yeah. So I just thought that this had a little bit of a fun path to it.

Honestly, there's nothing that's going to shock you too much. Okay. It's just there's a fun little ride we're going to go on. So we start off, and Alex is talking about the Trump Putin summit. Right. That's taking place in Alaska. Yes. He's very optimistic.

Ladies and gentlemen, it is August 15th, 2025 on this Friday, live edition. Coming up at 2.30. Central time, 3.30 Eastern, 1230, Alaska time. Vladimir Putin and President Trump, the President of Russia and the U.S., will meet in Anchorage, Alaska. A little more than three and a half years after the Ukraine war escalated into seriously bloody, dangerous proportions, over a million dead, conservatively. is footage of Vladimir Putin landing in Anchorage today.

The vibe you get is kind of almost like, it's more exciting that Putin's more exciting than Trump. Yeah, well, I mean. And that's not new, but you can feel it a little. Which is weird because now they're more alike than ever. Mm-hmm. I think it's a weird thing where it's like, well, because I don't hear Putin news, oh, God damn, every goddamn day

then I can just paint upon him the thing that I really want whereas with Trump it's all day every goddamn day and then suddenly D.C. is invaded like you know if with Russia Moscow can be occupied and you're like

eh whatever what are you going to do? You know Russia the government and Putin is a much more successful image of a strong man and the audience is kind of beaten down by the amount of pushback that the right-wing media has had to perform in terms of the Iran attack and Epstein, a big beautiful bill, Elon Musk, all these things cascading does make Trump not look like the strong man that they want him to.

So meeting with Putin kind of only highlights that difference. Yeah. And that's not great. And one of them doesn't wear their shirt. So that's already a victory in right-wing man world, right? Oh, yeah. So manly. So he's on a horse.

So Alex's belief is that Trump and Putin already have a deal. Right. So this is all just about forcing Zelensky into it. Right. That if you look at being three and a half years in, Russia has absolutely won this war. So just from a pragmatic perspective, Trump is right saying it needs to be ended. but if NATO and the EU want to continue

if they don't accept this deal that will be announced by Putin and Trump today it was already agreed to over a week ago as I told you that Trump will give NATO and the EU and Zelensky their puppet I'm predicting a month to agree to this deal that if they come back halfway reasonable

with a couple tweaks then there'll be another meeting with Trump Zelensky and Putin So we know from the fact that this didn't happen that Alex was wrong. Yeah. Yet another prediction that he's making that will just be ignored whenever people want to trot out any Alex Jones was right games. Yeah. But that's fun.

He's just writing fan fiction about how he wants this war to end in Russia's favor. Yeah, absolutely. Which is interesting. Sure. It's not surprising, though. Right. Right. And it's, it is weird because there's a, there's like,

like this low level kind of understanding that Russia is not fighting this war, they're fighting the next war. You know what I mean? If like if they get territory now, then the next war is already won because they know how that goes. You give us territory to end the war. And because that's how the last one went. Exactly.

So we've got this all going, right? But Alex seems to be like, well, you know, let him win the next war too. We know what Russia wants. So let's give it all to us. him. Yeah. And, you know, that insight of him wanting to invade Mexico, like, I think it does help. He just believes in, like, regional superpowers and, like, becoming colonial super states. Is it really just his understanding of global politics is like a game of risk where he's like, oh, if you have control over the whole continent structure, then nobody can attack you except through Alaska. Yeah, they've got to

get Erkutsk. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, man, you can't get Arkutsk. You never get it. You want to get to Australia. Absolutely. You're untouchable in Australia. Yeah. That's the problem. That's why they had such strict COVID mandates down there was because they were trying to get Oceania all combined so no one could invade. Yeah, that does make sense. I do think that like, you know, he talks a lot about like Zabignu Brazinski's, the great game, great chessboard. Yeah, that's true. Of the world. I think he might take that a bit more literally than he needs to. Everybody's also just trying to get through the day at the same time, buddy. It's true. You know, we don't have to do all this stuff.

Well, part of getting through the day is relying on your local leaders. So we've got to look domestically. I think that's smart. To some headlines. Let's do it. And gerrymandering is the subject of the day. How are we going to choose those local leaders to represent us? Fairly.

Yeah, totally. Alex thinks they should just, the GOP should just fucking chop it up. All right. Now I want to hit some really important demands. domestic developments. Governor Newsom came out yesterday. We covered it and said, we're going to totally rewrite the state for Democrats

ahead of Trump trying to make us rewrite the congressional lines. And the Democrats have always been the world champions of gerrymandering. They're the ones that wrote the book on it. They're the ones that have always done it. and the Republicans have to do this. California, Illinois, New York, I mean, it is totally written to keep them in power. So one of the biggest allures of the Alex Jones worldview and this kind of politics is the pretending to be above the left-right paradigm. And if you are saying that the GOP needs to gerrymander in order to fight the Democrats gerrymandering,

you are deeply caught in the left-right paradigm. Oh, yeah. You are making excuses for things that are not cool because they benefit your side. Right, right. Outside of the left-right paradigm, you go, gerrymandering is bad. Yeah. Inside of it, you go, our team gerrymandering is good. And it's defensive against the other teams.

And that's why. There's a cast his belly here. Yeah. And that's why, I mean, like, I don't think that I have any interest in defending a lot of Democrat attempts at gerrymandering in the same way that I wouldn't with the GOP. Yeah. Creating the most fair way to provide representation is the way to go. Yeah.

Not strategically chopping up states in order to create more seats for yourself. And even if you are going to do that, right? Some of these are geometric shapes that look like I'm a bad person. Like if you draw this, if you were just drawing this geometric shape, It would be the shape of a bad person who would draw it, right? It's like it's got too many sides, too many angles, and it's too small in certain area. Yeah, it's absurd. Yeah, and it has like a tentacle or two.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, guys, we got to not do that. Yeah, that kind of stuff is, I think, a big part of what hurts the public trust in our institutions. Yeah. The fact that people do that kind of stuff makes you think, like, oh, there's a lot of power that people are pursuing as opposed to representation and protecting our interests. Yeah. And it would serve both sides, honestly, to cut that shit out. It doesn't serve, quote, unquote, Democrats,

or at least it doesn't serve the people who vote for Democrats to have Democrats who are not concerned about losing their job if the people who vote for them don't like them anymore, you know? Yeah, yeah. Creating safe districts and stuff, I understand the argument that it helps protect your interests, sort of. I guess.

But what it really does is protect the interest of the people who want to be safe in their seat. Yep. Or whatever. You got it. So, like, I think that the appeal of Alex's politics is being able to say both sides are doing this shit and it's fucking bad. It's got to stop. It's corrosive to the politics. Yep.

And he has betrayed or abandoned his ability to take that stance. Yeah. The GOP must gerrymander. There is just a place, you know, okay. like you've got your you've got your social media sites where there are places for things you know like an instagram is a place for this a TikTok is a place for this a Twitter is a place for this right like when you go to Info Wars this is not a place where Wolf Blitzer is going to have the like a fucking county map up of who's voting where we're here in Info Wars to shout about demons yeah I'm not here to vote for like the the fucking lesser of two demons come on Man, nice. Now, that's a pun you meant. I don't know if it was a pun.

It was playful. It was play on words. You're fine. But yeah, I totally agree. I mean, it's just, this is, this is a mealy mouth. This is not the place for this. No, it's soft. If this was a bar, I would kick you out of the bar because this is not the place for this.

Yeah. Yeah. So, there's a, you know, the police state is activating in some ways. It's fine, though. You know, like, feds are snatching people up. Sure. I mean, when you say it like that, it really doesn't sound good. Yeah, but have you considered possibly that there are immigrants?

Newsom said California to draw congressional maps to end the Trump presidency. And then he has these outdoor rallies for redistricting. And beautifully, the head of the board patrol showed up, talked to the press, and then arrested a bunch of illegal aliens. And then Newsom is like, how dare them? This is a police state. This is terrible. And you go to MSNBC, CNN, ABC News is all the same.

This is a police state. While you got federal agents jumping out of cars and grabbing people. Yeah, grabbing illegal aliens. Oh, it's fine. It's fine. You've got policemen jumping out of cars and grabbing people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Illegal immigrant. What?

People who they suspect are illegal immigrants. It's fine. There is no situation where it's, how is it possible to not at least have like a knock on the door? And can we come in, please? How is that possible that we could have any other discussion where it's okay? Because anyone, anywhere, just grabbing people off the street is bad. Oh, it's bad. And then you add on to that that this is clearly political target. Absolutely.

What Alex is describing is the Trump administration showing up to a political rivals rally and then just grabbing people that they suspect are undocumented immigrants. You got it. And that's terror. That is literal terrorism. Yeah. That's what we call it. And whether or not Alex is accurately describing what happened is one question. Sure.

But based on the way that he's describing this, this is not okay. This is not Info Wars what they're supposed to be about. I just feel like if we get to the bottom, and this is what I feel like. I feel like one of the hardest parts is finding things that we all agree on. But I think 95% of the people, if you just scratch them, if 95% of the people had to stop and think, every one of them would be like, no, you shouldn't be allowed to just grab people off the streets. Man, I hope that's true. I think it is true. There's just a small number of people who get too much power who can convince themselves of things that are insane.

you know and then come up with ways to make it harder to scratch underneath the surface for people to recognize the shared agreement that we have that this is way fucking wrong listen we can argue about Christianity and religion and all that stuff but I guarantee that there's a 95% chance you don't think it's okay to grab people off the street and take them especially like on the grounds of like I think that you're an you look different that's crazy that's not even okay that's not even okay to think about. And on a societal level, that's all true and fair. But on an InfoWars level, on an Alex police statey kind of level, it's just flagrant.

It's so flagrantly wrong and against what he pretended to care about that like it's it's parody. It's against what anybody pretends to care about. Yeah. Like that it is, it is just, I don't, I just don't know how you can talk yourself into, oh, yeah. If you're in a car, you jump out, grab an unsuspecting person, get them into the car with handcuffs, and then drive away real fast as a okay sequence of events. I think I can come up with one scenario. Okay. It's a surprise party.

That's one. Same place. Yep. Two. All right. Prank show. Prank show. That sounds right.

If Eric Andre grabs you, but even then if Eric Andre grabs you, you kind of know what's up. I just watched Jackass Forever. Yeah. Finally got around to it. Eric Andre is in there. I know, he's great. Yeah, yeah. Got hit trying to get a coffee.

It's really fun. I feel like any time they have a thing, an inflatable thing that pops out. Yeah. Fuck, I'll laugh every time. I don't care. You could do it a thousand times. It's still funny. I have watched the hand slap the guy holding the tray of drinks.

I can't even tell you how many times. It's just good. Yeah, I could never not watch it. Yeah. Gold. I think we should stop the show right now and watch. Gotcha. I think that we need to invest. Like, fuck 24-hour news. Yeah. 24-hour people being hit by things that are inflating. Oh, my God. What are we doing? That'll save society. We've done everything wrong. So they say in life that the apple does not fall far from the tree. Sure. And in that case, we have Rex, son of Alex Jones. Right. Rex Jones. Rex, son of Alex.

The apple has not fallen far from the tree. Oh, he's on the show. He is. Okay. He shows up. All right. And many people would think, like, okay, Alex's son carrying on his legacy. Sure.

That would mean him getting deep into communist conspiracies and John Birch Society stuff. Yep. But it turns out, it's really, he's into supplements. Well, Rex was like 10 years old. He would hang around here at the office. here at these studios that's how long we've been there he's 22 now

he'd be like 10 then we've already been there a few years and when you just point a camera at him and he was already so politically informed he would do a great job people say how's that kid reading a script or does he have a teleprompter the answer was no

we just played one of those clips going into the last break but Rex's real genius as he runs some online stores and on his own has been doing a great job the last few years is chemistry

and subluent development yeah he's carrying on my legacy as a fence. I mean, as, as in the, in a vacuum, not forcing your political beliefs on your child, I guess is good. I don't think that's happening. I don't think it's happened either.

But in this small area where we're leaving out any possibility, let's say that this child has left all that stuff behind, but grabbed the one little piece that he could hang on to, which is the chemistry involved in supplements, and then took that little piece and made something out of his life. I don't think he's also into the chemistry and supplement development. I think his name is on some businesses so Alex can hide money. Probably illegally. But like, I think that there's something really interesting about this.

And that, like, if you are Alex Jones's son, obviously you're going to want to make your dad proud. You know, there is a desire to live up to the expectation that he has clearly, like, you're his firstborn son. you have the race memory of like your paul atreities you know like yeah there's a real pressure to being this uh this air yeah um and you know you're gonna live with that for a while and i think yeah i think when what alex is describing at the beginning there is the way that you do it first is like i want to get into this politics stuff and impress my dad with my repetition of things that W. Cleon Scowson said. But then over time, you realize your dad doesn't give a fuck about that stuff.

He cares about the supplements. About the business. He wants to sell these supplements. All right. And so now in order to try and make your dad proud, you sell CBD. All right. Okay. So we're talking about the evolution of daddy issues over time.

And I think that this is a more sincere one. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. The true legacy and the true trying to get dad's attention is starting your own supplement business. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, any, any dad with a huge personality often leaves issues in their wake. Sure. A dad with this personality cannot help but leave a trash behind. Oh,

you know? Garbage island. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And I think that if I were Rex, I probably would recognize quite accurately that nothing I do is ever going to be better than Nick. Yeah, absolutely. Nick Fuentes is going to be able to outcircle you in terms of rhetoric, politics, all of this stuff. So, like, why would you ever try to impress your dad down that route? Go the other way. Get big. Yeah, get swole. There's something Nick can't compete with.

Sell CBO. Yep, absolutely. Under your dad's name in a business that's probably funneling money to him. I mean, it's totally legal, though. Yes. Do things that are totally legal for your dad to hide money. That has always worked well in the past. the family business.

Yeah, absolutely. So Alex, you know, he's talking about a bunch of bullshit and who gives a shit. But towards the end of the show, in the fourth hour, Chase Geiser takes over. And I thought that there was a moment that is so funny. We're talking about Trump and Putin meeting to try and end a war that Alex thinks is going to lead to a nuclear apocalypse. We have troops taking over D.C. and Alex is like, I think it's fine that. you know, feds snatching people up at protests because they're immigrants.

What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Right. You have all this. And Chase is going to interview the person who won a truck in an Info Wars raffle. And just in a few minutes, we're going to be joined by Cheryl and Tim Schoner, who won the Ford Lariat. Absolutely incredible family, incredible inspiration to see all of the supporters. It's one of my favorite things is one of the winners of the giveaways. And we don't talk about the giveaways very often on this network because, frankly, it's hard to go from. talking about, I don't know, World War III about ready to blow up right in front of our faces, conflicts with Iran, Epstein files, the existential threat that we're in as a species because

of people like Bill Gates blocking out the sun, the Fauci's getting away with murdering tens of thousands, if not millions of people, the major pharmaceutical companies. You go from all this coverage of MRI vaccines and just total bile engineering and the technocratic takeover and the artificial intelligence wars that we're in with the CCP and the fact that everything seems to be at a critical point in history, and then you go, hey, by the way, if you go to the store, 10x entries on the new truck, it's hard to pitch it. Yeah, yeah, it is.

It does feel incongruous. Now that you put it like that, specifically exactly like that, I think you have already made the argument for yourself. Yeah. I think you are revealing that you have a human self-consciousness about doing something super shady and performative. Oh, Chase. I do like the little moments of self-awareness that he can offer.

Yeah. Because I think that if you didn't realize that saying this kind of reveals how artificial all of the very serious things you're listing are. If you didn't realize that, then this is a really, this is a normal thing to feel. That is a tough pitch. No, that's a tough pitch. Yeah. It's not that hard for Alex. and that's why he does bring up the raffles periodically.

I mean, he's got the ability. He has no problem making that jump. Nope. But for someone like Chase, who maybe is a little connected to his humanity still, he understands it's fucked up to be like, hey, we're all dying because of a bioweapon attack that these people have made and they're trying to block out the sun. Yeah. Also, hey, if you buy our dumb pills, you could win a truck.

I mean, what's funny to me about it, though, is that when you condense it down like that, right? It feels like you guys are overreacting in a way of like, see, look, there's like a million things to kill you right now. Calm it down. Just do a truck. You know, it's not going to kill you. Raffles.

Right? Have fun. Have fun. At any moment, it could all be over. So have a raffle. And I think that this is like, I think we've talked about it a little bit in the past, but like there's something so old radio station about raffling off a truck. truck.

Yep. It feels like your local radio station is trying to generate some kind of publicity. And that's the world that Alex comes from, is old radio. Yeah. And so this makes total sense to him. Yeah. Like, this is what we're going to do. It's going to be fucking huge.

We're going to raffle these trucks off. No, there's a plot of that 70s show that is one of those like, hold your hand on the car contest and you win. Like, that's where we're at. Yes. This is the old time. Except we haven't gotten to the point where there's a concept. Except we haven't gotten to the point where there's a contest yet.

There's just a raffle. That's true. But, hey, it's silly. We'll get there. It's silly and it's fucking stupid. And I love the idea that we're talking about all the serious stuff. And then the last hour of the show is talking to someone who won a truck. I think that's great.

I mean, here's the weird part. I really do think that's great. Well, it's like Alex talking about butter. Just do your shit. Talk about this truck. Come on. man just have a good time but i i was the the reason that i played that clip is like it's such a encapsulation of what i'm i'm talking about yeah like chase is trying to be a little bit

defensive about how difficult it is yeah thematically to have this show that's about all this like you're going to die you're going to die we have a raffle yeah uh it's a hard sell it's a hard pitch i think there's something within now i'm i may be reading too much into this but i through that little clip right there. There's something within him going like, I think I want to do something else. I think I want to do a different kind of radio. I think he really likes radio.

Probably. I really think he does. I think he wants to be like a zoo crew guy. There's at least some piece of him that has to recognize the artificiality of this. And like how difficult it is to keep sincerity, an image of sincerity, when this is the totality of what you do.

Yeah. Like, you contain all of this. It's like, no, you're silly. This is stupid shit. Yep. Stop trying to make me think you actually believe that COVID was a fucking bioweapon. Now, tell me more about this truck. Tell me more about the great truck.

Tell me more about the great truck. Also, another thing, I don't know if I've pointed this out, but Alex has a couple times mentioned that there's still daggers available. Ooh. And that is worrying because those should have sold. Dagger should sell. Yeah. Yeah.

He, I don't remember exactly. I think it was like a thousand or two thousand of. of them that he bought. And, like, he should be able to sell 2,000 daggers. I think that tells us what age level of audience is still sticking around. People who are too old for daggers. People who are old enough for survival foods and supplements, but not young enough to want a dagger anymore. Someone who doesn't trust that they could stab.

Yeah, I don't think a dagger's doing too much for most of his, unless they're, like, displaying it, which I don't know if you're buying an Info Wars dagger to put behind glass. I mean, it's got like a burning of Alex's signature in it. So, like, you know, it's a commemorative piece. It's a little, it's a conversation piece for sure. Yeah. It'll start a conversation. Well, look, those daggers may not all be gone.

Yeah. But every time they raffle off a truck, someone's getting it. Chase will be there to give it to you and to ask you how you feel about it. Right. How do they feel about it? Great. Yeah? It's a good truck.

It is. And how long is the interview? I mean, at most of the chase his time. They do not give him a full hour for... Maybe not the full hour, but they, you know, spend more time than you need to on, hey, I got a truck. What do they talk about? The truck. That's it.

They all talk, like, there's no, like, follow up on, like, what's going on in your lives that you're going to use the truck for? I mean, or, like, how do you... There's some human interest side of it. How do you feel about Bill Gates killing all of your family? Well, I'm worried about the son. See, there you go. And my side of it.

He's blocking that out. What's my son going to do without the sun? Where's Rex? So, anyway, this was just a little ride I wanted to go on, was seriousness to truck giveaway. But we'll be back for another episode and, you know, dive into a little bit more about the police state stuff and how this whole thing is, it sits with his career. It's the only thing that I think is important. It's fascinating. And I don't think that he's going to be all that helpful.

in learning about what's important about it. Very doubtful. So we'll try and figure out an angle on that for next time. But until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do. It's knowledge right.com. Yep. We'll be back.

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