Knowledge Fight - #1076: September 10, 2025

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan witness Alex do as bad a job as is possible covering a very dark day in the Infowar.  (Content warnings all around).

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Knowledge fight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Hey, welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship with the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot is that last night I was over at Angela Lampsparey's place. Yes. We were watching a little John Cena flick. Absolutely. Watching the heads of state.

One of the greats. Yep. And ordered Culvers for myself for dinner. Okay. And did not get a butterburger. Right. But what I did get is they have a Lucky Charms concrete. Oh, okay, okay.

Like a shake, but with a custard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So fucking good. Was it really good? So good. Lucky Charms concrete? It was so good. Did they have mushrooms?

Yeah, mushrooms. Do they have mushrooms? Yeah, porcini. No, marshmallows. Yes. They had the full-on marshmallow. Oh, yes. Dang.

And they did not skimp on the mix-in. Oh, they did? You know, like, sometimes you'll get like a McFlurry or whatever. The little tiny top layer and then you mix it in yourself and it's like, that's practically just vanilla ice cream. This was a healthy amount of lucky charms in there. And so I tipped my cap. All right. I was going in with the hope of being surprised.

Yeah. And I was. Yeah. And I loved every second of it. So good job, Culver's. I remember that, I remember when a Culver's came to my small town in central Illinois. And it was everybody was fucking buzzing. Yeah.

Can you believe it? A Culver's here? Right. They have seen us as worthy of giving us this slightly upgraded dairy queen. Absolutely. I was like, okay, all right. The dairy queen's shit. Culver's is for the classic.

We're doing it. Huh? Okay. All right. You know, it's strange because I do, I think that it felt the same in Columbia. Yeah. I think that when Culver's came, people were like pretty excited about the. I have never seen a quality.

difference that would suggest excitement would be valuable whatsoever. No, but there was buzz. There was buzz. How did they do it? You can't deny the buzz. People in the past were a lot easier to handle, I think. And now I've got buzz. Because there's other cereal concretes they have.

There's like a cinnamon toast crunch one. There's a whole. I think I got to get it. The cereal sweet. If Raisin Brand is one of them, I can skip that. Yeah. What's you going to do? So what about you?

What's your bright spot? My bright spot is, Dan, sometimes we do live shows. That is true. Have you noticed that we do live shows? We brought one up, but it sold out pretty quick. And so we didn't bring it back up again. Friends, it sold out in six hours. Yeah.

Which was a little bit surprising because it's not a small play. It's weird. No, it's fairly. There's a lot. Yeah. But the positives isn't that we have sold it out. I think for a lot of people, that would be the bright spot. For us, that's not a bright spot.

It's, in a way, it's inconvenient. It's frustrating because what if somebody wants a ticket? Exactly. And, well, now it's sold out. But the good news, the bright spot is, what if somebody wants a ticket? What? There's a new date. What?

Yeah. You're just telling me now? We've added another date. We've decided to do Thursday, December 18th as well. You keep springing these things on me on air. I know. I'm really sorry about that. I'm okay with this.

Are you okay with it? I mean, it was a unilateral decision. Yeah, we did talk about it. I'm just pretending to not know. But yeah, that'll be fun. A different show. Yep. Totally different.

Yep. Same venue. Yeah, it won't be. I don't think we, we've never even considered doing the same show ever. No. I think we did try to do the secret of 2017. One time. In the beginning of 2018.

We tried to use the same clips and it felt awful. We couldn't do it. It was awful. So yeah, that'll be a lot of fun A little bit of extra time in Portland So Chuck Pallaniuk, you're on notice We got another day, motherfucker! Yeah, you can dodge me for one day, but two.

Not enough, not enough. But because the first one did sell out, I guess it probably feels like if you want to come to both, great. We love that. But if you wanted to come and didn't get a ticket, I would hope that people would give you a little bit of a window. I want to try and express

the strangeness, because I don't think that anybody in any sort of media except us can feel quite the way we do about this. We're not that big. We're not at all famous. There is in no way, any way, that we should be selling out a place in six hours, period. And yet we do. And because we do somehow, we're also, again, not famous enough to do any of this stuff, but we're also like, hey guys, don't buy tickets too fast.

What are, who are we? Don't rush in. Right? We're absurd. We're absurd. Do your best. Everybody that wants to get a ticket should get a ticket, is what we're trying to say. That's the point.

Yes, absolutely. So today we have an episode to go over, Jordan. We're going to be talking about some shit. Oh, no. We're going to be talking about September 10th, 2025. And it's a bad day. This is not going to be great. Not going to be great.

We'll get through it. Okay. But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks. Oh, what a great idea. So first, to the disgraced comedian and rat hole man. Gatorade shall never be thick enough for restless souls like us. Love from Captain Haha. Thank you so much, Your Honor, Policy Wong.

I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, my daughter just made her high school tennis team, so this shout is, parentheses, excited. Jordan yelled, tennis! Thank you so much, Your Honor, PolicyWonk. I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you very much. And a little note to all you folks getting ready to fuck out there. I'm sorry? Come back to this episode later. This ain't the one for you. This ain't the one that's going to do it. No, this is not forgetting in the mood.

This is a downer. Yeah. So obviously there was some big news in the world of right wing media and propaganda this week. As the head of Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk, was shot and killed at an event he was holding on the campus of Utah Valley University on Wednesday. An incident like this can be really difficult to address, and this case in particular is even more messy than some other kind of similar events that have happened in the past.

As soon as news broke of the shooting, tons of politicians from both parties came out with statements denouncing political violence and offering condolences. Simultaneously, lots of people with large social media accounts released some pretty inflammatory responses, with many people mocking Charlie Kirk and others saying that a shooting was pretext for literal war against the left. Sure.

In the broken media space that we all currently live in, all of this messaging blends together, and everything becomes a confusing stew of shit. In most online spaces, anonymous shit posters have as much or more reach than PhD holding journalists. So who can keep track of who's saying what? It's all just being bombarded at you. Personally, I think everyone who listens to this show knows exactly what I would say about Charlie Kirk as a media figure the day before he was shot,

and his getting shot doesn't change anything about how I feel about the toxic bullshit he disseminated. However, as much as I may have hated everything he stands for, I wouldn't have wished death upon him. At the same time, now that it has happened, I'm not particularly interested in caring that much about it or scolding anyone for responding however they feel they need to respond. As of the point of we're recording this episode,

we don't know who did the shooting or why, So deconstructing what led us to this point is a little premature, and I think that we can deal with more of that as we learn more. Sure. To be totally clear, though, I do think that delighting in someone else's death, even someone who sucks, is not good for you as a person. And I think people would be whines to avoid doing too much of that. Beyond that, I don't want to get into a thing where I'm saying that people should take the high road, and I also don't want to engage in people wallowing and mocking death. Both of these responses feel hollow to me. People naturally have made a lot of assumptions

about who could be behind the shooting and it seems like folks in the right wing media have decided that it must be a left-wing person possibly Antifa. Sure. It's possible that the shooter will end up being someone with left-leaning politics but it's also just as likely

that someone from the far right. As much as someone like me may have not liked Kirk, the people who were further to the right hated him even more. Nick Fuentes and the Groyper's infiltrated Kirk's organization and they've tried to unseen him for years, largely because he's not anti-Semitic enough for their tastes. That particular branch of the right wing really hates Kirk, and the idea that someone with

those beliefs would kill him, that's not impossible. On top of that, Kirk has been a huge media figure that's gone against other ends of the far right in recent months, notably being one of the big influencers who said that he was going to trust his friends in the Trump administration when they told everyone to move on from the Epstein stuff. He also wasn't opposed to Trump attacking Iran and has been a solid supporter of Israel throughout the genocide in Gaza, which naturally has made him an enemy of people on the left and right who opposed that. Ultimately, I can't answer the question of who did it or why they did it, so I don't want to take a ton of time speculating about that here on the show. I heard about the shooting pretty

soon after it happened, and I saw on Twitter that there was a video that was taken from pretty far away, a pretty far away vantage point. I watched it and it looked like Kirk might have just been hit and it looked like it might have been survivable. Then, before I knew it, there was another video from much closer, and I really wish I hadn't seen it. The first thing I thought when I saw the closer video was that that dude is gone. It was a horrible thing to see, and just, blah. I think that seeing death and killing in particular causes a certain amount of emotional

trauma to a viewer, and it really struck me how huge of a psychologically resonant of that this has to have been. I may think Kirk sucks, but he had a ton of fans, and people who look at. up to him within turning point, and they were seeing that person that they admired die in front of a crowd. Sure, maybe they shouldn't have looked up to him. Maybe that was dumb of them, or they chose a bad person to admire, but they did. And the sight of him being killed has to have hurt so many people in a way that's going to

be really hard to process and predict, predict what the outcome of that's going to be. I feel for those people, and the people who didn't like him who may have also accidentally watched something they really shouldn't have. on Twitter and are feeling something about it. When I say something like that, I can imagine some people saying, getting the impression that all this death and horrible sites, they should be censored from social media.

Like, that's my perspective. Sure. And that my position would mean banning documenting atrocities that are carried out in Gaza or in other parts of the world. But I want to make a distinction clear. When people see documentation of human rights violations in war crimes somewhere like Gaza, they're going to have a certain amount of emotional

trauma that comes from that. However, in that case, they can take that trauma and make it something productive. They can find like-minded people and through community with these people. It's possible to funnel those feelings of trauma into advocacy and action that's meant to stop these atrocities and ideally limit them in the future. That isn't possible with videos like the one of Kirk being shot. The trauma that this type of video inflicts on you can't be redirected towards something good. There isn't a real advocacy that can be fueled by the awareness that this trauma.

brings, it leads just to pain, and then that pain can be misdirected pretty easily against whoever someone wants to target. For sure. To sum this up, I hope everyone's taking care of themselves. It's not normal for public figures to be shot at events and for graphic videos of them dying to be distributed around the world immediately. So if that feels weird and fucked up to you, that's okay. It is.

That's a very normal response. How it works. I wrestled with whether or now we should do an episode about this today. because there's just so little information available, but we can still cover Alex's response to this breaking news without knowing a bunch of the underlying details of what happened. Sure. We can still view his behavior as it is.

Yeah. And know that he doesn't really know anything. Yeah, and we can be aware that he doesn't care while we do. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So Alex's show begins like any other day on Info Wars. there was news about Russian aggression, this time flying drones over Poland. So Alex is calling that a false flag where Putin's a victim.

Yeah. Russia claims that these drones are attacking Ukraine and didn't violate Poland's airspace, while Poland has said that they documented 19 incursions into their airspace, and that, quote, it simply defies imagination. It could be accidental. Sure. It seems like a lot of experts believe there wasn't any intent on Russia's part to attack Poland, but there was a desire to test boundaries.

Right. This kind of thing doesn't mean the end of the world. is upon us, but it's a bad side. Anyway, it's an issue involving Russia, so Alex believes Putin's the good guy in the whole situation, which is, that's not a surprise. Yeah. It's not really all that interesting. I like the idea of thinking you're the good guy who's like, hey, here's how you know

I'm the good guy. I'm sending in a bunch of stuff to test your defenses when you're not paying attention. You know, right? Like the good guy does. See if you'll get your NATO buddies involved. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to annoy you until I test whether or not you're going to start some shit. and then maybe we don't take your stuff, like the good guy.

It's really what a hero does. Yeah. So about halfway through the show, Alex leaves. Right. And he just... Oh, what a day for him to leave halfway through the show. I bet he's going to come back. Dan, I bet he's going to come back.

Maybe not. Harrison Smith is loaded for bear. He's got the latest coming in right now on the Russia situation that I cannot stress to you. Enough is so insane. My dad's doing great. I'm about to go get him out of rehab right now. So thanks for your week and a half ago. So thanks for your prayers on that time.

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I can't tell you exactly, I can tell you exactly how it feels to be having such a great day that suddenly turns. horrible immediately. Just a semi-truck comes out of nowhere. Well, there we go. Okay, here we are. So Alex leaves to, well, he actually doesn't end up leaving for a little bit. Right, all right.

He intends to leave. Harrison Smith takes over the show. And as he's trying to minimize this news about Russia sending drones. No big deal. Yeah, they're kind of like dumb drones. Eh, what about the lazy drones? Yeah. Harrison gets the news.

Uh-oh. But what they are. is very cheap sort of distraction drones. It's a cheap, long-range drone, which Ukraine intelligence says is made of materials like plywood and foam and assembled at Russia's vast Yelabuga facility. Yellow Buga.

It can be used as a decoy drawing the attention of air defenses away from much pricier Shahed zone drones, which often carry powerful warheads. However, analysts say that since its introduction, other versions of the Gerberra with light warheads or reconnaissance equipment have emerged.

So for the most part, these are just sort of huge model airplanes like balsa wood airplanes that they send out in a first wave or send out along with the actual armed expensive fancy attack drones as a way to confuse air defenses because they can shoot these sort of useless drones out of the sky and it doesn't cost them anything and it allows the actual payloads to be delivered poland has asked NATO to invoke article for officially at this point Warsaw wants consultations with block members after an alleged violation of its airspace by drones it identified as Russian whoa what Charlie Kirk just got

shot fuck sorry the crew just came in my ear and said that Charlie Kirk just got shot on video so there's a there's a naturally a disbelief of like what what do you what are you saying

I'm in the middle of talking about these drones what a day right he had no idea this is you know what much like on January 6th except on January 6th He probably kind of had an idea. Slightly different. Slightly different circumstances.

Harrison is once again thrust into the position of being on air during something huge. Poor guy. I bet when he was a baby, like he was briefly like carried on screen as the Twin Towers fell. Like he's just always there. He's somehow always on TV whenever a disaster happens. Yeah, he's the forest gump of, oh shit. Exactly. so Harrison is being alerted that there's video sure

that's probably no good but it's still at this point this is still the video that's far away right isn't all that graphic oh my god okay so we're just getting this news it looks like Charlie Kirk was doing one of his debates that he does at college campuses in the video that we were just seeing for our radio listeners was shot from a rooftop overhead there's a huge crowd

you see Charlie Kirk can we can we play it again guys so let's just keep that on a loop because it's not very it's not graphic but you can see him sort of jerk and twist and you see everybody running away after the shots were fired oh my god I hope he's okay so we don't know if he's alive or dead we don't know how serious the damage is this is a really tough situation to be in obviously and I think that um you know I'm not going to say uh tip tip my hat to Harrison or anything. Sure.

But, like, at least there is a clear feeling of, of, like, well, this is news. Shit just got actual real. We're not doing Info Wars bullshit right now, guys. Something's real. I think he's trying. Right. And I don't think he's going to succeed. Of course not.

There is a feeling of, like, uh-oh, this is real life. Right. Everybody drop the facade. We actually need to talk to people like they're real people for five seconds. Yeah. Yeah. And at this point, you know, like that video that he is playing is. is the one that's far away.

Right. And so the mind... Oh, he's playing it? Yeah. But the mind doesn't... I don't think it's as horrified by that. Right. Because it's very abstract.

Right. It's so... We've all seen movies. It's like a Clint Eastwood version of shooting a guy where they go, and like I said, there's entirely... Like, you could come away from the wide angle version of this other clip as like...

He might have survived. Right. That is not like... Right, right. It's not horrifying. Right. I think once you see the other clip, it's crisis. No good.

No good? Well, anybody, I think seeing that is just like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. And I'm not saying, this is where it's difficult. Yeah. I still think you shouldn't play this on your show. Absolutely. I think it's not helpful and probably a negative influence. Sure.

But it's more defensible definitely than the other one. Yeah. The other one, there's no excuse. You know, here's the fun thing. And it's not fun. But just from like a let's step back and remember where and what we are and what we're doing, you shouldn't be, there's no possible way you could ever have evolved to be fine with seeing something like that. The species has only been around for 300,000 years and none of them has been able to deal with that shit.

There's no reason to think that you'd just be instinctively fine with it. You should not be fine with it. You've got the chillest genes. This is fucked up. Yeah. Yeah. So as much as Harrison is like kind of trying to, you know, be a newsman, he does, I mean, the Info Wars does creep in. And it looks like everybody looks to the right, as if the gunshot came from over there, which was really far away from the stage.

And there you see everybody running. Whatever you guys have on this, go ahead and bring to me or any more videos we can bring up. I'd like to look more at that. I guess I can hop on X here, but that is very horrifying. And not exactly unexpected with the increasing leftist violence. Charlie Kirk has just been shot at an event in Utah Valley University. Yeah, you can't not bring it into the conversation about leftist violence, of course. Jumping to these conclusions.

Sure. Building the narrative, as it were. But the sense that I got from this is that Harrison's a bit rattled. As much as that leftist violence, you know, slip in is there and the info war is there. Right. I don't think that he's fully like there. Yeah. Committed to lying and right, right, right, right.

And some more video coming out from this. Oh, my God, yeah. There, it looks like he was shot. Oh, my God. It looks like he was shot in the chest. I hope he was wearing a bulletproof vest. I can't believe what we're seeing here. So it looks like he was shot in the chest.

The people in that video all look to the right as if somebody was shooting from by them. I mean, that would be a very far shot. It looked like two or 300 meters. if that's the case so this was in Utah all right when we know more about this we will

bring it to you but I mean obviously this is I mean this is the way things you're going Jesus Christ I think Harrison kind of cares yeah you know like he's still an Info Wars employee so some of the knee jerk reactions and responses

of narrative building and like how are we going to make this work sure they're still there sure but also some human response is there is there's a feeling of concern there's a feeling of like um i i'm thrown off my game by this because it's a human to me and i maybe he cares about charlie maybe he knows him or you know thinks of him as friend i mean what's what is interesting i mean i don't know. I don't know. I don't want to say like, great. I think what's, what's human about that is that it reminds us that all of the other reactions to it are reactions of thought, are reactions of second consequence. Your first instinct is the same as every other fucking person, except for I guess, psychopaths or whatever, because I've read about them. But this kind of, oh my God.

Yeah, of like, no, this is not an okay thing to happen. it doesn't all of the shit you've talked up until that point whether or not you believed it at the time or not in that moment you are reacting like a human being yeah there's something you're you're startled put off right you're and i think that that's what i'm trying to uh describe is almost like unsure footing yeah you know like he he has actually uh almost like you know taking a punch uh and is a little dazed by this, and that's human. Yeah, I mean, it's ironic, but like a well-thought-out reaction from a good, right-thinking person hours later is identical to Harrison Smith's well-thought-out, horrifying reaction.

What's also identical is that your good person and Harrison's horrible person reaction in the moment is fucking shit. Fuck me. Well, but, yeah, and honestly, like, I don't know how you could respond to this live on air as, you know, like, a peer of his, or whatever, you know, like, I don't know how you possibly could have something that even sounds composed. Did you know that there was a time whenever something like this would happen and they would go, like, we're going to, we're just going to turn the TV off for a few minutes while we figure out what the fuck is going on. And then there's a little, little symbol would come up. Yeah, that doesn't happen anymore. you have to be on the moment in the moment always yeah and if you're too unsure in your footing yep and you're not really you know really you're not really selling it you run the risk of

alex barging in fuck kirk was reportedly shot near the neck while seated during a live q and a session eyewitnesses say he fell from his chair as shots were fired and evacuation of uvU campus was initiated following reports of an active shooter u.s senator mike lee posted that he's monitoring the situation, urge prayers for Kirk. Alex, yeah, we're just hearing about this. Absolutely. I was grabbing lunch where I'm going to get my dad out of the hospital. Fox News, they can back it up right now.

They've got more details. But I'm telling you, Charlie is doing such a great job, getting people registered as Republicans. He puts himself out there every day. My God, the left, the trans shooters, the stabbers. Wow, looks like you get shot.

Wow, right in the chest. My God. Probably have a parking garage, just as I've been Dick than left would do. Wow. Yeah, that hit him right under the heart. Hold on, hold on me turn around. I see, that's the heart side. Wow, that was a professional. They shot right, it looks like it hits him about two inches. That'd be the lower heart. My God. When I said earlier that Harrison sounded unsure in his footing, I meant that he had the opposite of that energy. Alex storms onto the set, slamming the door behind him, and immediately asserts a couple kinds of authority. He's far more assertive about accusing the left and trans people of the

shooting, and I wouldn't be too shocked if part of Alex's instinct to come in so quick was because Harrison wasn't pouncing on blaming people fast enough. Alex directs the coverage to treat the shooting video as a bit more of a spectacle, and in the process, he's dehumanizing Charlie Kirk a little bit. He's amazed at the accuracy of the shot, which seems more interesting to him than the fact that his supposed friend is dying in front of him. Yeah. The second major thing Alex does here is put his stamp on the story by making sure to point out that the shooter was probably in a garage and that Alex predicted that.

It's good for Info Wars. The story is that a high profile conservative figure was killed, but it's great for InfoWars if the headline is that Alex predicted it. He's marveling at a video of his comrade being killed, and one of Alex's first thoughts is to make it about himself, which is what you'd expect. And that's the only reason that Harrison's response is in any way notable to me at all. It's the lowest of bars, but because Alex immediately fails it, it's, it is so much like, let's just replace that question. You know that question where they're like, oh, so the guy

meets a girl at the funeral, uh, and then the next week he kills her dad. And you're like, oh, well, that doesn't make sense. But if you're a psychopath, you meet girls at funerals. It makes perfect sense. Sure. Like, it could just, be like, are you Alex Jones? That's another great way of doing the psychopath question is like, are you Alex Jones? Can you watch a video of someone who is a friend being shot? Yeah. And what a great shot.

Yeah. Whoa, man. You're a, you're a, you're a psychopath. You know there are cameras on too. Of course. No, you love that there are cameras on. Oh, it's just such an awful response. Man, I feel like ants have it right.

I feel like there's like ants have it right insofar as when something goes. on you didn't mean like your parents sister no no no ants as a species like when something like this goes on sometimes just a bunch of ants just jump on top of another ant and they're just like nah none of this none of this can't be dealing with this like you see something like that and you're like nah whatever whatever needs to be done to get that out of here it's real dark that's got to go yeah that's crazy so Alex rambles a little bit here and then uh ends up saying a prayer which is not performative at all okay My God, man, oh my goodness.

This is absolutely devastating, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Looks they got shot from higher up, too. You couldn't shoot through the crowd from lower. This is, slow that down. Wow. Boom.

Oh, my God. And it looks like everybody looks over to the right as if, yeah, it was coming from that parking garage. Yeah, that's what I've been telling you. The attacks are going to come from the parking garage. Wow. Okay, I'm going to get my dad out of the hospital. I'll say I don't do it, but I'm I'll be back. Great job.

Yeah. Stuart Rhodes. Everybody's coming up. Fuck! Due on the war room. This is just, Stuart Rhodes is coming next to ours. Wow. Everybody, let's say a prayer right now for Charlie. By the way, everybody says it's censorship when I come in the show. Everybody knows they get hired here. I'll run there. We're breaking news. And you guys are supposed to do on my show too.

Our Heavenly Father, Charlie Kirk, has done such an incredible job, getting hundreds of thousands of not millions of young people to register to vote for Republicans. he is a game changer and puts himself out there every day as a warrior on the field as a man in the arena and we pray father that you send your angels of protection and miraculously heal him and we pray that you raise him up and it is in your will that he live it is in your will that he die he will then be a martyr for the truth and justice we pray for charlie kirk right now in the name of your son our savior jesus christ amen all of us together we pray for charlie kirk in the name

of jesus christ amen god dog it oh man wow It's a war. Let me tell you. Trump, every day to his cabinet says this is a war, we need to be totally committed. Trump's doing way more good than he's doing bad, way better than Kamala. They want to kill Trump too.

They want to kill us. There's a reason I don't do a bunch of public events. Not that I'm a whim. They're not important enough for the rest my life. I guarantee I'd be dead right now if I did what Charlie Kirk does. He is a incredible person. He's under massive attack on the left and others. and wow this is unbelievable pray for him right now

it's a war it's an info war it's an info war again Alex is trying to make this all about himself he's insistent on bringing up the parking garage thing because it's validating his own sense of importance Charlie's death proves Alex right again which is the important thing to Alex

even more disgustingly when Alex is getting ready to pray for Charlie he has to take a minute to get defensive about how he barged into Harrison's show because that's something he's getting a lot of criticism for with Owen leaving. No one's mad that Alex stormed in now, and it actually would be strange if he didn't. This is a massive breaking news, and Harrison's filling in for him on his show. So the fact that this is something that's in the front of his mind is weird. That's fucked up.

This is an awful way to cover this news. Alex has reinserted himself into the show, made someone else's death about himself, got defensive about stuff his former employee said, did a very performative prayer, and then started whining about how Trump is good. In the minutes after the shooting, countless Democratic politicians, ostensibly Charlie's great rivals, posted messages of condolences to its family, and denunciations of political violence. News companies went out of their way to be pandering in their coverage,

to the point that MSNBC fired one of their political analysts, Matthew Dowd, after he commented on air that Kirk was a divisive figure who promoted a ton of hate in his career, and that, quote, I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. That got him fired, and I think that speaks to the tame or even muzzled response you saw from institutions in the wake of this shooting. Kirk's old nemesis Nick Fuentes posted on Twitter, quote, this feels like a nightmare. One of the most horrific things I've ever seen. I feel absolutely gutted and devastated. Pray for Charlie Kirk's soul, his young family, and our country. The violence and hatred has to stop. Our country needs Christ now more than ever.

A few hours later, he posted, quote, given the gravity of today's events, I will not be doing a show tonight. Instead, let us all say a prayer for the repose of Charlie Kirk's soul and for his grieving family. That's the move. How we choose to respond to this watershed moment is profoundly important and we should all sleep on it. All of this really illustrates how Alex has become a man entirely ruled by his impulses and his addiction to chasing attention to the point where you know this guy Nick who hated Charlie yeah can see what he should do in the situation like he has he has the wherewithal to recognize that I mean you know it's but it's the difference between a smart junkie and a dumb junkie you know like he's he's doing that because he's chasing attention right in the

smartest possible way yeah you know like you can be a a Wall Street junkie. Yeah. You know. Yeah. No, that's true. That's a fair way to put it. But it really does look bad for Alex.

I mean, man, that's just, I would, you know, sometimes in moments like this, I wish that I was still a Christian. Because I would be grateful for Alex as being like a perfect test of true faith. If you believe there is a God who gives a shit and that man still alive, it takes faith. to get there. It takes faith to get there the next day. That man and a God at the same time. Get the fuck out of here. A lot of the stuff that Alex seems to do taunts God.

Good work, God. You have tested the shit out of my faith. Yeah. So Alex has left. He barged back out after saying this is an info war. Right. And so Harrison, just talking, just trying to fill some time. That is horrifying.

And, yeah, I don't even know what to say. I mean, the left is absolutely becoming radicalized to an insane degree. This is not, honestly, I hate to say, it's not been unexpected. I mean, they have, they have Antifa members, like one month ago or two months ago, setting an ambush outside of an ice facility, lighting the building on fire, so they come out, and then snipers positioned shooting at them. Luckily, you know, they failed in that attempt. But, I mean, they are on a war footing, and they are out for blood.

and they keep telling us that, and we keep not taking them seriously. At this point, they know literally nothing about this incident. They've just decided that it was a leftist who did it because that satisfies the storyline in their heads, so that's just become fact. These kinds of details don't matter, because when there are details that come out, they'll just ignore them. If it turns out the shooter was a left-leaning person, they'll just continue with that storyline. And if it turns out that they weren't, then it'll be a false flag or a patsy or a mind-controlled wind-up toy of the deep state.

It doesn't matter. Also, this talk about leftist violence is great, but do you think that Harrison can remember the names of the Minnesota lawmakers who were shot in June? It's helpful. I know it's supposed to be a false flag, but do you think he remembers their names? I bet he can't. No, absolutely not. I'm certain. That's telling.

I wonder if we're entering like a weird subset of the dead internet theory where eventually all violence is carried out by like, 50 guys to each other because I feel like no matter what everybody's talking about with left or right or anything like I don't feel like people are shooting from a couple hundred yards away unless they're already on their own kind of situation you know what I mean yeah I think there's something more going on there than a left right difference nobody's nobody with a genuine ideological disagreement also has like 200 yards away capabilities you know what I'm saying Yeah, yeah, it, it, um, something else is going on. It takes, it takes a special, uh, kind of interest.

It takes an elevation. Yeah. That I don't think normal, not normal, but like the vast majority of us, regardless of what you believe have. Yeah. Yeah. Especially people who are generally interested in politics. Yeah.

Which has to do, you know, a lot about, um, organization and how, uh, like a city should run. You can't have a fun horse race. politics idea of how things should work while at the same time being like, and you should shoot the horses before they finish the race? No, I mean, at the very least, you've got to finish the race. Yeah, it's, it's a mess. Yeah, it's a mess. So Harrison thinks that he's going to just have the rest of it to show to himself.

Yeah, well, easy peasy, right? Because Alex went to go get his dad. No big deal. Except Alex Barge's back in. I can't help but think that he had to be wearing a bulletproof vest, right? and of course he's not he's not an extremist he's the most respectable person

on the right wing as far as I'm concerned well he's so successful at mobilizing people let me just say people bitched him he's on hardcore enough that's how he gets to general people yeah the man's a hero folks I'm a big hunting enthusiast I'm I'm shot a lot of a lot of a lot of things

don't do this don't do this at all really pray for him because if you shot somebody with a handgun it would not cause the shirt to have that ripple and the body to jolt that was probably a high-powered rifle probably not a 5-5-6 he probably got shot with like a 300 wind mac or something so

I don't like to make predictions I hope he pulls through but just it's it's bad I'm just telling her I watch that footage that's high-powered rifle he's got to be wearing a bulletproof vest right I mean that would help but a high-powered rifle goes right through that no he also got tungsten cores

they knew they were doing now that it could have been a bulletproof vests while there's some much concussion that's a good point That's what when his shirt jumped, that's what it looked like. That could have created the bullet bouncing up. Oh, let's pray. It's a 9 millimeter. Oh, my God.

That, good thinking. Only a, yeah, bulletproof, that could create that effect as well. Roll it again. Roll it again. My God. The left sure loves guns when it's for killing. Fuck, me. Or Christians.

Zoom in on this. So this is the war gaming that Alex does, trying to figure out bullets. And I wonder, like, there's a small part of me that wonders if it's almost even a coping mechanism. Maybe. Like an inability to recognize this person dying in front of them. I mean, I don't, you know, okay. So in a situation where it wasn't Alex and somebody who is like a really big gun enthusiast, like a gun nerd. Yeah.

That is like, you're doing this because this is your point of view through which you can you the world. This is like you holding someone's hand. This is the way you can deal with this comfortably. Exactly. With Alex, it's, it's like, it's a different kind. It's the kind of like, I'm not as interested in the gun that killed the pig as much as I am in seeing the pig get hit by the gun. Yeah. You know? Zoom it in. Yeah, exactly. And that's, that's, that's, that's, that's disgusting. That's just got every amount of hunterish, like, where part of nature is removed by the, the leering, disgusting grin of look at this blood spurt.

Yeah. And and like this kind of behavior like the zoom in, let's play this again. Yeah. Like that in a room like alone where you're like trying to like get clues and get to the bottom of something is still kind of fucked up. Yeah. Doing it on air.

Yeah. Is grotesque. Nobody nobody watching like Kevin Costner doing Oliver Stoneflick is like Kevin Costner is the guy who's totally sane right. Yeah. Like no he's yeah. And Alex isn't even being that... No. No, no, he's not being pleasurable at all. So Alex takes off again, and Harrison reflects on the radical left.

Right. And what have we been talking about for the last couple of days? The fostering of extremism, the encouraging of the most radical and violent elements of the Democratic Party, constantly telling this swath of... mentally ill people, that they're under attack, that fascism is coming, that they have to stand up and fight and arm yourselves. That's what you say!

Inevitable outcome, and... That's what you see! I pray Charlie Kirk is okay. This is gonna change a lot of the calculus moving forward, I think. and what we're going to bring anything that we get as soon as we get it. But we're not going to run with any rumors. We're only going to go with the confirmed statements.

Harrison's pretending that he's not going to report rumors and he's just going to stick to the fact, that the entire premise of his coverage is based on his feelings. He's just decided that the shooting was connected to the stories that he likes to tell about radical Democrats being violent. And based on nothing more than that, this is how the news is being covered. The foundation that this coverage is based on his opinion in a moment. motion, not any kind of factual reporting, and I don't think that he's even, like, aware of or understands that.

Yeah. But also, Harrison should be super careful about what he's saying here. InfoWars is not supposed to believe that stochastic terrorism is real. It's a very important tenet of Alex's ideology that violent words don't cause violent action, because if they did, he would be in big trouble. What's Alex's business model built on other than telling mentally ill people that they're under attack? He rants about the globalists and commies instead of fascism, but what Harrison's whining about the Democrats doing is exactly what pays his bills.

Harrison doesn't seem to understand that the only reason that what he and Alex do is socially acceptable at all is because Alex says politically after he graphically describes murdering someone, and then we all pretend that matters. If we all accept that violent rhetoric leads to violent action, then Alex should be in prison, which is why InfoWars is not supposed to understand this. Yeah. Harrison should leave this angle alone brings up too many questions.

Yeah. Play dumb, buddy. Come on. Yeah. You know the irony of everything that they are and everything that they do, right, is that if I'm talking about somebody who's in the, you know, not on the left or on the center or anything like that, if I'm talking about somebody who's just a rational, clear-eyed talker about what we're talking about.

And I say something like, oh, it's a false flag. The response isn't like those never. happen, the response is, those are usually a bad idea. Like, those don't work. Those are bad ideas, right? Only these people think that not only do false flags happen all the time. Almost every day. But that they are a good idea.

They're super effective. In order to accomplish what you want. So the irony of this situation is that, and I'm not saying that this is or is not a false flag, but in terms of a situation like this based upon the target that we're dealing with, There is a far more likelihood of this being somebody that likes him than not likes him in order to try and achieve the goals that he set out because of what they believe. Well, sure.

It's weird. It's an ironic situation. Well, don't worry. I mean, it will be a false flag if it needs to be. Exactly. But that's the problem. Right. Exactly.

Yeah. Everything can be a false flag until it's proven not. But you don't want to use that when you don't need to. Exactly. And in this case, they don't really need to yet. Of course not. With the Minnesota, they did. Right, exactly. Very important then.

Yeah. Yeah. So Harrison, he thinks he's alone again. Of course. Is he going to be alone again this time? Nope. He starts ranting. Over how many hours are we popping in it out?

25 minutes. So he was supposed to be gone multiple times within minutes of the next statement that we're taking. It's pretty quick. Gotcha. All right. I was coming back. It's again a farce. It's again open closing doors.

Open, closing door. Okay, all right. So Harrison's ranting a bit about the left. Okay. And now Alex has discovered the really awful footage. Uh-oh. So we're probably going to end up seeing a lot of different angles of this. I'm like feeling lightheaded.

This is a, this is the inevitable consequence of the radicalization of the left in this country and the demonization of right-wingers. Even people like Charlie Kirk, who are totally respectable, totally Christian, totally informed by, you know, American ethos. they have a target on his on his back there are rumors on the internet he's dead i said if it's not a if it's not body armor causing that big concussion it's a super high-powered rifle like 308 win mag something like that they're saying it's an old man they say he's in cussie that's what the police are reporting we have footage we're about to show of your discretion advised a shot by cell phone you see blood shoot out of his mouth body which would be you know hit in the heart which is what it looks like to me on the video so pray for charlie we'll be

finding out as this unfolds of your discretion as vize let's loop this footage a couple times not counting gang violence great they don't want to see when they kill people oh fuck me jesus christ there's no justification for alex playing this footage it's disgustingly graphic and you don't learn anything from it that wasn't already known it's exploitative and it's an act of harm he's perpetrating on the audience i honestly wouldn't have even included the audio of that except that Alex can be heard making an aside to harrison that i think he thought was off mike he said quote they don't want this scene when they kill people which feels like Alex making an excuse for playing this video it feels like saying that is an indication that

Alex knows that he needs a reason to be airing a snuff film and even telling the crew to loop it like it's fucking unacceptable that's crazy I don't believe he doesn't understand that what he's doing is wrong and he needs an excuse also the police didn't say that an old man did it Twitter said that because there was footage of an old man being detained by the police at the university. Right. This was a guy later identified as George Zinn, who's apparently a notorious local protester. News coverage from Utah describe him as a libertarian who has a long history of misdemeanor

arrests, and it seems like he was getting arrested because he told the police that he shot Kirk, but that they didn't know if he did or not, and they didn't know. Right, right, right. Okay. And he didn't. So, as usual, Info Wars is reporting Ruber and speculation, passing it off as official information from legit sources, the exact same. thing that Harrison said they're not going to do.

Usually when the cops say something, they announce it. They've got a whole thing. There's like things. Yeah. When Twitter says something, they just go, the cops got him. Yeah, I don't know if the cops and the FBI had great message discipline around this as the day went on. But, yeah, this one was a, this was more of a social media thing than, you know, than an official announcement. Yeah.

Yeah. Man, fucking. Gross. What a fucking... It's fucking gross. What a group of people to think that this is okay? Or not even okay,

like to think that even in certain circumstances this is okay. There's no need... There's no circumstances that justify this behavior. No. There just aren't. No.

Because you don't need it. I wish I could add more editorialize in some way, but no, it's not. It's disgusting. Yeah, like, I don't know. I don't know, man. How do people get there? I mean, I think that, you know,

having, you know, I, I didn't have auto play on, so I can't, I can't cop to that. I did not realize what it was going to be when I clicked on the video. And having had that experience, I find it so repulsive that Alex knows what he's doing, he's airing this, and he's like, loop it. Yeah. It's just unacceptable. Like, I, he's an adult. Yeah.

I didn't see, I've seen none of the videos. At no point in time would I have been informed by any of, of the videos. You could just say he's dead. You could say he was just shot. And I would be like, I've lived a life long enough to where I know what the context of those things mean. I don't need to subject myself to blood.

I don't. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Fucking hell. So anyway, Alex gets lost a little bit in discussing the mechanics of the shooting. Of course. I think the most important part.

To some. Yep. I thought, because you see the job. you see the jolt in the it's the juggler it wouldn't do that jolt because oh it could have hit the body armor and bounced up ah yeah body armor bounces up because you see the bullet bounce up hmm that might have been a pistol round Jesus Christ man Charlie we love you brother what a warrior what a Viking well if he does die he's going straight to Valhalla that's a real warrior king's death right there sword in hand Oh, my God, that was, how many, how many things like this are we going to have to see? I'll just say this. Yeah. This isn't going to intimidate the populist movement that's only going to make us stronger.

And if they think this type of stuff's intimidate us, they've got another thing coming. They think we're like them, a bunch of scum. It'll only make us reable our efforts. but I don't think it's a rumor he's dead seeing that it looks fatal pray for Charlie Koch Searle folks pray he's alive but I don't think so wow Stuart Rhodes is coming in

Stewart Stewart Rhodes takes over folks Really? This is why we're so into Donald Trump if he doesn't fix this God only knows where it goes from here Things are getting out of control Quite out of control I would say I felt like Alex was really trying to work up to

If you want to fight you better believe you got one some catchphrase action Fucking hell Yeah I think that If you think that he's probably dead Based on the video you just watched Don't air that At least

You should think it's probably not what the family wants Yeah You should like I understand That you probably want to rile people up And you know whatever But there's an inherent disrespect That I just feel like Should be baseline

Yeah Oh well I think this is a really great exemplar of the difference between talking and doing. Like, Harrison talks such a big game of being

a Nazi piece of shit. Alex is a Nazi piece of shit to his core. Emphasis on piece of shit. To his fucking core. Because I think that there's some piece of of shit parts of him that are Nazi-ish, and there's some parts that are different. That are still piece of shit. You know, they're more.

There's an evolution of piece of shittery. He's a dynamic. piece of shit. Yeah, but it is like, there are a lot of people in life who just talk shit and they talk a big fucking game. But when it comes down to it,

like, that's a human life. Alex is fucking not that. He does not care. Alex is not that. No. Alex does not give a fuck. Yeah. That's really the feeling

that I got from this, you know, albeit fairly brief time that they were covering this on the episode was that that Harrison has a slightly human responds and Alex does not care at all. Not even a little bit. He's interested in guns

and how he can use this. And Owen! Yeah. Well, he makes a Freudian slip a little bit later. Oh, he does? Yeah. So, um, they said that we got a guest host coming in. Jesus Christ. Of all the fucking people, who do we got to have? We got to have pirate murder talk over here. Yep.

So we just heard that Charlie Kirk was shot in Utah. Um, our prayers go out him hopefully he'll make it so a big lesson from that is is that we are already i'm he just say this but we're already in a civil war and it's been that way for for years against the left just have to accept reality that they are waging war on this country on this constitution and on us and they don't they don't accept free speech from anybody with themselves that's clear from from what happened to charlie kirk today they have zero information about who did this shooting or why they did it but now we have Stuart Rhodes coming in to whine about how this is part of the left's war on the country, which is already a civil war.

I often have moments where it feels like InfoWars is a full-on parody of itself, and this is a great example of that. Charlie Kirk was just murdered at an event, and less than an hour later, the head of a paramilitary group that tried to overthrow the country four years ago is guest hosting, complaining about the left. Even if you just leave out all of the January 6th stuff, leave that to the side. True.

His history with the Oathkeepers is plagued with, violence pretending to be politics. Stuart being the host on this particular day, it just feels like proof of a simulation. I mean, it's so surreal. I think I just did become a Christian because no amount of faith could ever overcome this, ironically making my complete lack of faith, the only true faith that there could possibly be proving that once and for all there is a God. Yeah.

And like it's, you know, obviously Alex didn't plan all of this, like the shooting and everything. You can't possibly have done that. But it would explain how this. has so much irony to it. I mean, it's steeped. Yeah. It's steeped. So one thing that is true.

Yeah. Is that Alex did need to go pick up his dad, I think, because he does not come back. Instead, I think he drops his dad back off. Great. We were going to go get some ice cream, but dad, sorry. No more. No mas. I've got to go film a special report.

Oh, God. So Alex comes back to the studio and films a report about Charlie Kirk. Oh, my God. The Democrats just killed Charlie Kirk today. day they're desperate they're losing they want to intimidate you and me and everybody else but we won't let the murder of our hero be used against us we'll use this death as an example to celebrate the life of charlie kirk and let the globalists know you did this out of weakness and we're now going to peacefully expose you and speak out publicly more than ever and then you criminals will be defeated

and we'll be going to prison we're about to break it all down right now by this point Alex has zero new information, but he's very confidently yelling about how the Democrats killed Charlie Kirk. Getting things right doesn't matter to Alex. All that matters is feelings. It's important to understand that Alex is acting this way because he knows that emotions are super high in this moment and that he needs to strike while the iron's hot. A leading figure in their media space was just publicly killed, so people are naturally pissed off and a bit scared. If Alex were to get on air and say, hey, let's keep our cool and wait till we have some information before we jump to conclusions, he wouldn't be able to exploit those angry and scared feelings that the listeners have.

When someone is angry and scared, if you try to calm them down, you're looking out for their best interests, but you're going to be less able to manipulate them. On the other hand, if you tap into that fear and anger, you're going to make the situation therein worse, but the energy that those emotions create can be redirected and pointed where you want to aim it. This is a major trick that Alex has used throughout his career, where he exploits the audience's feelings of fear and anger, often around public tragedies, and then redirects their feelings towards things that bring him profit. When you think about Alex's career, what do you think about? Is it making shit up about horrible tragedies, or is it actually getting to the bottom of crimes and corruption?

Without the crotch of taking advantage of public trauma, we wouldn't know Alex's name. Yeah, everything that's big in his career, 9-11, Sandy Hook, wait. go, like all of it is exploitation of the pain that tragedy causes. Yep. And that should be his legacy. His, his talent is not for anything other than recognizing when speed is the most important thing. Beyond all else, beyond everything else, speed, get there fast.

And, and other people's pain alchemy. Yep. That's his, that's his skill. He's got that. Yeah. So this was a shot heard around the world. September 10th, 2025 is a day where a shot was heard around the world. Charlie Kirk was brutally murdered today in Utah while speaking to thousands in an outdoor event at a college.

And the left is everywhere celebrating it. They're so happy. They had witches in groups cursing him in the week before. They had people in Utah releasing a song a month ago about killing him. We'll get to all of that. So there's that soft music playing, and if you're just listening to this show, you might think that this is some kind of a respectful tribute. But the video that's playing just before Alex starts talking is Charlie getting shot in slow-mo.

Great. It's horrific stuff. Great. Also, I'm not going to draw on this too much, but when Alex says that Democrats are over all the, they're all celebrating Charlie's death, the only thing he points to is a couple of random people on TikTok. It would be totally fine if he wanted to say that these people are acting distastefully and that he doesn't like it. But if he's going to say that Democrats are all out here celebrating, he should add a little note about how literally every mainstream Democratic politician posted a condolence and denunciation message on Twitter. It feels like him not saying that and just posting like a few TikToks.

That's him lying by omission. Sure. And it feels that way because that's what it is. Yeah. He's doing this because he's a liar, trying to exploit his supposed friend's death before. before it's even been publicly announced that he's dead. Yeah. It's gross.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, functionally, while I understand the impetus behind what everybody's doing, right? All of those messages from Democratic politicians and the like are all reasonable things that they are saying to other Democrats, you are not being heard by anybody on the right. Yeah. So if you're making that statement. or firing whatever his fuck is

in the hopes of being like, this will send a message to the right that we're above this. That message is unheard. Yeah, there will be a couple people on TikTok that will speak for all of you. Right. And I mean, in the same way,

if you're like yelling at somebody about, you know, like, oh, this should happen because he's a violent guy. He commanded violence. He said that the Second Amendment was fine. That's also not being hurt. Just the two of you talking. It's the Democrats saying, we should be cool, and the Democrats saying, like, this guy had it coming.

They're talking to each other. None of you are having a conversation with the right. Yeah, they're doing their own thing. They're doing their own thing, and what you think is meaningless to them. Except when they feel like they can use it. Exactly. And that's kind of unfortunate. And you don't even need to actually think of, yeah.

So, Alex thinks that he's figured out why Charlie got shot. Yeah. He was getting too close to uncovering the truth that crimes are happening. against white people. Oh, shit. But the reason it's a shot hurt around the world is he came out a few days ago with the murder of the Ukrainian 23-year-old refugee and the left trying to cover up that was racially motivated.

The killer says, I got that white girl. And they said, he's the bad guy. He's the fascist. He's Hitler. On August 22nd, Arena Zarutko was stabbed to death on the rail system in Charlotte, North Carolina by a savage career criminal. Her life story, I think, will be told.

both the United States and Ukraine for years to come. What do you think the importance of this story is most fundamentally? This was one of the coldest, most senseless murders I've ever seen. She had no interaction with this guy whatsoever. She was sitting money and her in business and he just takes out a knife and just decides to stab her. I do say this with some form of just heaviness. I don't like politicizing situations like this, but it just necessitates it because there are so many dynamics at play here.

Based on the information evidence we have, the attacker did say, got that white girl. The attacker racialized it in his own telling of this situation. And we all know this. Any honest observer of your program knows this, including Van Jones even knows this deep down, which is that, of course, if a random white person on a subway took out a knife

and stabbed a black girl senselessly to death, there would be massive media coverage, there would be policy changes, there would be people having to apologize for this. We saw this in George Floyd. And yet, for whatever reason, this situation has not garnered even a fraction of that kind of outrage or backlash.

And it's really captured people's attention. So what happened in this case in North Carolina is a horrible tragedy, but I don't think that this very clearly, mentally unwell person, muttering something that sounded like I got that white girl after stabbing a random person, he's enough to establish that this was a racially motivated crime. I don't think that Charlie's claim that the killer, quote, racialized the crime is even defensible because generally speaking for a crime to be racialized race has to be a part of a motivation for a crime not something that was just said descriptively

afterwards right even assuming all the other details he's given are correct by pointing out his race and their race i'm racializing the crime and that must be what he was doing racializing it because otherwise i wouldn't be able to racialize it further the point that charlie is making about how if it were a black woman stabbed by a white guy on the train there would be tons of media coverage of it and there would be policy changes. It's the most scientifically inaccurate thing that's ever been said. But I would also just point out that there's tons of media coverage of the case

he's talking about and the president is using it to try to justify sending federal troops into states to squash crime. There you go. This whole, if the races were swapped game, is just that. It's a game designed to bait racists. Charlie also says that this isn't giving the same attention as George Floyd

and I think part of the reason for that is that Floyd was killed by a cop who had him subdued. The current story doesn't involve police brutality, which was a very central issue as to why people were protesting a lot about the previous case. The reason that Charlie got blowback from this behavior that he was engaged in is because it was a little obvious how desperately he was trying to stoke racism with his coverage of the story.

Yeah. I feel like him saying even Van Jones would have to admit is a little over the top because he's just using Van Jones as a stand-in for a black guy. Yeah, I mean... It's ridiculous. It's... I know it's not important, but this story has another deep irony to it. which is that the victim of this crime is someone that folks like Alex and Charlie do not like.

She was a refugee, which they don't want here. Further, she was from Ukraine, a country that they both are cheering on Putin invading. If she hadn't been killed, they would be happy to demand that she'd be deported back to Ukraine, and they wouldn't care if she was killed as a result of that. But because it happened here and how it did, they accept her as one of their own because she was white. And they can use this story to exacerbate their audience's feelings of racial victimhood. Yeah. So it's all good.

No, no, no, no, no. You don't understand because, because I, what, who, what was it? Like CNBC or MSNBC? MSNBC? Yeah, because they fired that guy. The right is like, oh, okay, cool. Well, we're all good. Yeah.

They nailed it. Yeah. Because they fired. They were like, oh, you guys are clearly mad about how we cover this. This guy said something clearly simple like, you know, hey, if you're dabbling in violence, maybe don't be surprised if violence happens. So we fired him. So now violence has ended.

Yeah. And you clearly took that as a sign of good faith on our part. Absolutely. I'm glad we can have a respectful relationship moving forward. I appreciate that we're not going to have to hear the right complaint about the MSNBC anymore. Certainly not. Because they've done the thing for him, right? I'm sure it's fixed.

So Alex, he's suggesting that the reason that the globalists had to take out Charlie Kirk is because he pointed out a race crime thing. A single instance of one. Right. The thing that they always do. The thing that they've done. I don't know if we've got, like one week has gone by in the past. So that's at least 52 times in the past year.

Yeah, but this is why. This is why. Sure. Gotcha. And so Alex complains a bit more about these people on TikTok and they're the worst. TikTok. So Charlie Kirk will live forever. And God bless his family and everything he's done.

But the left everywhere, literally celebrating this just shows you how sick these people are. They want you dead because you're not a Satanus, you're not a pedophile, you're not a globalist. And they're not going to stop. So you can't roll over the political correctness. You can't hope they just go away. You've got to stand up against them culturally, economically, spiritually. The video that's playing over this part where Alex is complaining about the left celebrating is just people who posted stuff on TikTok. There's no indication from what he's showing that they're even left-leaning people, but there's a bigger issue here.

what could be less politically correct than mocking someone's death right after it happened. By definition, what these people on TikTok are doing is super politically incorrect, and Alex is scolding them about it, which kind of makes him the guy trying to uphold some standard of political correctness. These kids on TikTok are doing exactly what free speech-loving iconoclasts would want them to do, and Alex is playing the role of the stuffy censor in all this. He doesn't even understand what he's... but he's, who cares?

I mean, ah, man, what are we doing here? I, it's one of those things where it's like, ah, God, I wish I could play that clip. I wish I could play that clip of Alex being like, ooh, that wasn't a $5.56. That was definitely like, oh, boom. He said boom.

Right? Like, I wish I could play that clip for anybody on the right and just be like, listen, I know what they've said. But at the very least, everybody you think is evil on the left will go, I'm sorry you got shot. They'll at least say that. You can't say that for Alex.

You can argue whether they mean it or not. You bet. But Alex is going to say boom. Alex is going to go boom. Like fucking Madden. He's going to slow-mo zoom in a picture of you getting shot and the worst moments of the end of your life. If we have disagreements about taxes,

I get it, buddy. But if you get shot, I'm not going to go, Boom. That's not going to happen. We're buds. Crazy. So some people say that Charlie Kirk wasn't hardcore enough. That's where we're at. Yeah. And Alex doesn't like those people, but he does because they're Nick Fuentes. And also he was the one who said he wasn't hardcore enough.

Yeah, Alex has said that too. Charlie Kirk decided to be exactly where he wanted to be standing up against evil, standing up against tyrants, standing up for free speech. and some of the populist right-wing movement can say, well, he wasn't hardcore on this or he wasn't, you know, hardcore on that. It didn't matter. He was getting millions, it's estimated over five million in the last nine years, but three million in the last election,

young people to break from the brainwashing on the campuses and to go out and vote Republican. That is such a revolutionary act, and so he had to die. The people who say that Charlie wasn't hardcore enough are the avant-garde Nazis that Alex likes a lot these days, and not hardcore enough is just a fun euphemism that Alex is trying to hide behind. He needs to stop playing dumb games and just accepted his Nazi friends hated Kirk

because it wasn't Nazi enough for them. Also, I think it's really sad for Alex to be venerating some guy who was wishy-washy on the issues just because they were an effective partisan voter registration guy. Yeah. If you're supposed to be above the left-right paradigm, this seems like a weird person to make a hero out of, but that paradigm wasn't real to begin with. They couldn't stop themselves if they want to. to this was going to happen it could have been fucking the most milk toast it could have been

fucking Lieberman man and they'd still be like oh he was a hero of the movement sure he had he had his moments yeah they had to listen we need somebody he's here this is what's happening he said something racist last week and that's probably why they killed him close enough yeah that explains it yep so look man this was all part of the pedesta plan podesta plan yeah you remember that thing from 2020 I was not expecting it to be this part of his plan. Oh, it's part of it. Okay. All right. That's the big message here. The Podesta Plan

from August 2020 said if Trump could win and they couldn't steal it, it's public, they'd have blue states to see the blue cities, create racial uprisings, and burn the country down and drive Trump from power. Then they produced a few years later the film Civil War that was released in the election year last year, fantasizing

about the states coming together, marching on D.C. and killing Trump, who's only protected by a secret service, a Trumpian figure. so they've said they're going ahead of this plan Alex is making up all this shit about this supposed pedestal plan and the only way he could say this stuff about that Civil War movie is if he hasn't seen it or he's betting that everyone listening to the show hasn't probably not the goal here is folding Charlie's murder into the larger plot

that Alex is making his audience scared about so the emotions that they have about this shooting become directed into Alex's revenue streams this is legit all exploitation yeah trying to own his death Yep. Yep. I mean, it's the fucking fishing email of eulogies. Like, this is fucked up. Yeah. It's worth, like, I never expected it to be good.

Like, whatever is in response, but it's worse than I thought. I really didn't. I think this is what we're experiencing. We're not psychopath. Like, this is, it genuinely makes me feel like I passed a test. It's like, that response is crazy. I didn't even expect. that response. That's how not a psychopath I am.

Yeah, and it really sucks because, you know, we're coming off a time that was a little bit back to having some fun with Owen leaving and all that stuff. Yeah. And now this is like real, it's a real splash of cold water on your face, reminding you that this guy is one of the most fucked up people who's been allowed in front of a camera. Yep. It's crazy. Yep. So on the back of this killing, the globalists are probably going to launch some racist false flags. It's a very good chance that off of the murder of Charlie Kirk, they've got some white supremacist drugged out MK Ultra people, ready to truck bombing legal alien demonstration or shoot up a black

college or something in their future. And then they're going to try to create the clash and conflagration out of that. And that's why they're pushing this violence. And so that's why this is so incredibly important right now that you understand this is a bellwethered event. This is another important piece of Alex's agenda, which is giving a preemptive storyline to any racist acts of violence that may come in the near future. Charlie had an audience that included a ton of racists and other brands of bigots, and the fact that their leader was just killed could incite some kind of a response up to and including other acts of

violence. Alex and everyone in this media space understands that the odds of that have gone up because of this shooting. So if that happens, it's important to have reminded the audience in advance It's not to believe anything like that could be real. It's all fake. It's all the globalists. Don't worry. Yep. And what Trump's doing is cool.

How is this at all involved? Well, I mean, like Charlie Kirk got shot, right? That's a crime. Trump's stopping crime. Oh, right? Man. With all the police state stuff. But it's not police state.

Because they're losing, they need violence. Because the world is waking up. They need. to create the chaos and have the mass uprising like we're Nepal or something and manipulate the youth to burn down the country. So there's a smoke screen to remove Trump and bring in their tyranny. Trump has deployed military in a few cities because of the Soros stand down defunding the police and the Soros D.A.'s not a police state. In an emergency, you do that and crime has already plunged 90% in D.C.

That is a protective measure ahead of what they know is coming. Even if we accept everything about what Alex is saying, if we accept and stipulate that it's true, is this an acceptable justification for a police state? There's going to be a lot of crime in the future, so Trump has to move towards martial law. It doesn't sound very convincing coming from a guy like Alex. If this is all that it takes to justify using the military or National Guard for domestic policing, most of the work he's done in his entire career falls apart immediately. It's just like... I mean, the irony of that is that it is actually... disrespectful to Charlie Kirk's memory and what he believed in.

Like, there's a subtle, there's a subtle problem with people pointing out his, his quote of the, the Second Amendment thing is because they're subtly saying, well, he didn't actually believe that. Because if you wanted to say, like, this man actually believes that, then part of this is respecting that this is what happens. He believed that this is what happens. To take him honestly and seriously is to say, this man is a result of what. what he believes in.

Yeah. That's being honest about what he believed in. Sure. For Alex to then take that and use it as justification for, let's say, overriding the Second Amendment

and allowing the National Guard to come into people's houses and grab their guns. What is posse comitatis? Maybe that's denying the memory of the person that you're trying to venerate. Yeah.

I mean, hey, shit's crazy. Right? Nothing matters anymore. Like, in even a greater sense, I am respecting his memory. by not calling for the end of the Second Amendment in a way that Alex Jones isn't. Yeah, yeah. You're passing a test weirdly here.

It's awful. It's awful. So Alex passed a test too. Yeah. And that was not being mean to Charlie when everybody was so mean to him. That was nice of him. Except he was. Yeah, he was.

But in closing, I just want to say, we love you, Charlie Kurt. We wouldn't have gotten Trump in both times without you. The enemy knew that. That's why you were target number one. We saw Charlie Kirk the last six months being the number one target other than Trump in the corporate media and by the Democrats. And I said publicly, Charlie Kirk, need to pray for him, because he's in a lot of danger. And for people that spent all their time criticizing him because on foreign policy, disagree with him, that wasn't his job. His job was getting people registered to vote Republican, which isn't perfect, but it's night and day compare the Democrats.

And that's why I'm pleased. I followed my gun instinct and didn't join the bandwagon to attack Charlie Kirk. That's 100% not true. I mean, in 2019, Alex was joining with Nick in attacking Turning Point and Charlie Kirk and even got into an argument with his then employee, Millie Weaver, about his use of Nick's branding of the term conservative ink. Yep. Then in 2020, Owen got kicked out of CPAC, and that led to them feuding a bit with Kirk

and Turning Point because they were seen as the anointed conservative media who were gatekeeping and keeping InfoWars out. So all through that time, he definitely was joining in. Right. Over time, it is fair to say that Alex softened on Kirk, but it's shameful for him to pretend that he never got into the mud. It's ridiculous. I mean, you know, when you see somebody like exploiting the death

of just like a regular co-worker in a way that's really uncomfortable where you're like, oh, I knew him so. We knew each other pretty well. And you're like, I don't know of you, dude. But whatever. Yeah. That's kind of distasteful, but it's a way of grieving, maybe a little narcissistically. Also, the stakes are about as low as they can get.

Sure. Right? This is, don't do this. Don't do this. Would you believe it gets worse? My advice to people, don't do this. And whatever's going to happen next, definitely don't do that. Yeah, we can all preemptively just say, don't do what Alex is going to say later, even having not heard it.

So, Alex, you know, he talked to Charlie, sure, pretty recently. they were just shooting the shit about like Trump and Epstein and stuff I talked to Charlie just a few weeks ago and about a week ago before that we talked about our children we talked about our families we talked about the voting drive he was doing

talked about how Trump's doing talked about how Trump was handling Epstein wrong we talked about how it didn't matter because we were creating a new generation of leaders for local, state and federal government and that that was the secret that long after Trump's gone we were creating the new generation

of populist Christians who will restore and empower this republic. I don't tell that story to run Trump down. That was just a conversation about, yeah, we're telling Trump. Charlie's like, man, he called me, we talked every month or so, but he called me a few times about a month and a half ago. He was just like, man, good job, keep it up. People at the White House totally agree with you. He's got to stop saying it's a hoax.

We know he means what they put in the files that they left behind is he's the guy with a whistle but my god it's a disaster yeah you know keep it up we totally agree with you great keep it up they were just encouraging me and i was like hey come on the show yeah i'll get you on the show we both got busy didn't have it they called me back about you know other stuff but he's dead now yeah and it is notable that he wasn't on the show isn't it pretty notable yeah almost glaring in its notability nick was on a lot huh he was on a lot that's weird declaring in the number of times he was on. So the two of them agreed that Trump mishandled Epstein stuff, but it's cool?

Yeah, of course. Now it's cool. Oh. Well, I mean, the now part is pretty doing a lot of heavy lifting in the it's cool. Yeah, that's disappointing. I also don't believe any of this. I mean, I maybe believe that they have communicated in the past, but I don't believe that they were talking once a month and he was saying, hey, Alex, love what you're doing?

Absolutely not. What? How could you, you know, like, you know those people who don't have pain, who don't experience pain for whatever reason they have some sort of thing and you're like oh i bet that would be but it's a horrible existence where if they get cut they might bleed out without even knowing about it like that kind of thing like every now and again you feel like man i want i wish i wouldn't feel so hard for other people yeah you do be stoked about it because otherwise you've got this yeah yeah and charlie also he kind of feels like i don't know what his personal relationships were like

but he seems like the kind of guy who knows like all right i'm going to keep out of Alex at a distance. Right, smartly. I might talk to him, but I'm never going to be seen. Right. I don't want to be seen talking to. Alex can come yell his catchphrase as a turning point because Tucker said he was cool. But I'm not happy about it.

Yep. So look, here's the problem with populists. They don't complain enough. That does sound right. As populist, as conservatives, as Christian, as common sense, just kind of throwback cavemen, you'd call us. to cut our son's penises off. We don't want world government. We don't want to die fentanyl. We don't worship the devil.

We still fly old glory down at the courthouse. White lightning is still the greatest thrill of all. It's not because we haven't seen any other stuff or done that stuff. We just know that the classic stuff that is what we are is what is good. It's classic

because it's what works. It's what we are. But as populist, as Christians, we're we're manly and you know growing up my dad and his dad and my mom all over they were tough and you didn't complain you didn't cry with broken bone or your drum blown out with you know worst pain ever just you man up come home get your ass kick when you're 10 years old about three or four bullies who are older than you dad says you better fight harder next time and then my dad would back me up and I put him in the hospital years later but the point is is that

we're not victims so we're not professional whiners like the left about 40% of Alex's show is whining yep and just complaining about bullshit yep and then an extra 20% is him talking about not complaining yeah and how he doesn't complain enough yep so he can this is a shocking lack of self-awareness I know I think I think maybe maybe the dead internet theory is is the secret like maybe we're at the point now where conservatives are only ever complaining about themselves and they just say the left yep or yeah and the media when they say that they just mean twitter yep and like it's like they've just they things have funneled so tightly into a space where you're like i don't even feel like i'm represented by what you hate anymore yeah i think

the left does not exist to them it they have become so cloistered right the only thing that like things that pierce the, are people that they can make caricatures out. Right, right, right. Zoran Mamdani, they can make a, like, Muslim socialist kind of character out of him. And so, like, ooh, we'll bring this in. Yeah, there's no like, oh, this is how you know that the left is there is because they're interest in rent control. And that's how you know they kill the guy.

No, it's like, oh, they're all these things we are. That's how you know the left. Yeah. So listen to this clip very closely. Yeah. I would say even Mike down for this because there's a real subtle moment where Alex makes his Freudian slip.

But we're not going to forget Charlie Kurt. We're not going to forget all the other people the left's killed. We're not going to forget how they try to kill Trump. We're not going to forget the poor Ukrainian refugee they murdered. Because I understand being a winner. When bad things happen to me, I learn from it,

but I don't talk about it. I move on. Because I don't live in my Bad experiences. Did you say you move Owen? You move Owen. When shit's going bad, I get rid of Owen. I move Owen.

Move Owen. Interesting. That's funny. So when I said earlier that what Alex is going to say is even worse, we have reached. This is where we're at. We have reached that point. This is, I mean, I don't know how you could be more just a piece of shit.

And we need to celebrate. Not, not, not. just remember Charlie Kirk and others because oh they killed our guy they're bad no we need to remember what he did what he stood for I'm Charlie Kirk founder of Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action

together the largest conservative grassroots organizations in the country thanks to our work I talk to a lot of young people on campuses at our events on my radio show podcast and social media said differently i visit college campuses so you don't have to

that's why i pledge to do a college sure and who does his locations the next year you know we try to before they protest the schools would ban us whatever i don't care if the schools do banish i'm going on because i can't watch his example and then have them kill him and think that intimidates the rest of us. I have to do it. I'm going to wear your skin. Wow. Yeah. Wow. That one physically hurts me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know what to say. I'm going to do your thing now. You died today and I'm going to do your thing. I'm going to steal your bit. There's a space in the market now for someone. I feel like the number one reason that I have now for proving that ghosts aren't real is because conservatives would be haunting the shit out of each other left

and right like if i'm charlie kirk i'm haunted alex yeah but maybe once you die you get like that perspective where you can see how funny it is that alex is doing that that's what i'm thinking i'm thinking that that's why we don't think that conservatives haunt other conservatives because we don't realize that once you're dead you have the distance to be able to look back and go like oh that guy was actually the fucking problem the whole time yeah you can you can see the must you can see the much mortal joke once the, yeah, you don't have the, like, bile and the adrenaline in you that's going like, yeah, that white person's cool. No, you're dead.

So you can be like, ah, that guy was an asshole. Well, it's a lot like how the older people on the challenge aren't so violent. Right. They have low testosterone. Absolutely. CT's got a gut. It's too, we can't be violent. I'm not that quick.

The testosterone levels have dropped. Absolutely. Everything is a little chiller. Yeah. When these racist dicks become ghosts, they don't have those chemicals and stuff in them. I appreciate getting older for that reason. I like not having those things. Alex is older than me.

Fucking get a handle on yourself. I think it's a supplement. It's probably the supplements. And by supplements, I mean drugs. We should do drugs, is what we're saying. So Alex, he talks a little bit more about his plan to wear Charlie's skin around. Sure. So I had talks with Kirk about how he thought they were going to kill him.

No, you didn't. So, but he lives forever, folks. Viking King sword in his hand. and I don't say that as a bravada. I say it that I strategically held back. All of us, you might just be a local doctor or a dentist or a school teacher, whoever you are. You should go speak your city council. Cashman, you're not going to kill you.

Once you get big, they'll try. All of us, remember the FBI coming after conservative Catholics criticizing DEI and all the rest of stuff? Remember coming after parents that were protesting it? That's because they're scared of you. So don't let Charlie Kirk's death be in vain. They were scared of that. Let's do more of that. But I commit to you.

I'm doing the Charlie Kirk celebration tour. Because I can't let somebody out there put more skin in the game than me. It's not a competition. It's about an example. about a challenge and it's about them not intimidating us um this is about your feelings and you are gross yeah i kind of hope he does do this or plan get like through the planning stages and put a lot of money into it and then the

family sues the shit out of him or something that'd be a delight can't call your fucking thing the charlie kirk tour the fuck is wrong with you i mean this is on the same day yeah this is the same day this is not like oh I've had some time to think about this. Here's a way to memorialize it. This is impulsive. Yep. It's gross.

When you, okay, so if you're watching like naked and afraid or something like that, you know, and they see, they show you a carcass and it's being eaten by the, by the wild, you know, there's bacteria, there's bugs, there's, there's scavengers, there's little things, there's all of this stuff going on, right? What if instead it was just one giant, hideous, mucous covered fungus that just landed on top of it and sucked everything of value out of it and then bound it off to do it again to somebody else that's basically what i'm watching right but actually you're not because that that fungus or whatever you're describing doesn't have the ability to

be disrespectful right right right right exactly there's an added layer of this it's got an attitude it's a fungus with an attitude like also i don't care like fuck you yeah i'm i died to feed you at least care I'm a fungus that's kind of a dick. Oh, you're a prick fungus. Yeah, and I'm going to pretend to be you in your honor. Oh, my God. What an evil piece of shit. You couldn't make a movie character do that.

Like, every time they make... Go ahead, sorry. Oh, no. I'm just saying every time they have like a fucking Spider-Man, you've got your J.K. Simmons doing the whole thing. It's like, no, no, you don't fucking know. Yeah. The parody is to fit this movie.

Yeah. The version of a real parody of him does not belong in any proper movie. Anywhere near a movie. No. No, no, no. I will say this. Oh, I don't know if I want to say this. Go ahead and say it.

Too late now. Or we can edit this part out. I think I would follow him if he goes on a college tour. Are you committing? I'm not committed. But I think I might show up. just, like, get high at all of the campuses? We got to do something.

I don't even smoke weed, but it would be like a going back to college kind of thing. I mean, if we're all going to steal something from Charlie Kirk, let's do drugs. If we, we should tailgate at Alton's college tour. Look, I regret that I didn't go on the caravan. Sure. Like, I didn't go along with the caravan. So if this happens, I do have to make up for pest mistakes. I would bet a lot of money that you'll be safe.

But who knows? don't think he's going to follow through with this but if he does i would love to just show up at each stop and give him a my man here's how much i will here's how much i will bet i will finance the i won't i won't argue with him or do anything like except for yell my man yeah my man all right hey so uh Alex signs off and gives a salute uh to charlie oh god and uh yeah it is it is what it is so i'm just proud to know charlie kirk And we salute him for everything he did, the hard work he committed to, and he lives forever. And we finally have turned the page in this chapter of the world being so dark and fight in this generation's tyranny.

We'll look back, and he'll go down in the history books as one of the top generals in the fight for America and the future of the world. For myself, the whole Info Wars crew and the entire audience, Charlie Kirk, the answer to 1984 is 1776, and you've got a salute from me, brother. You're a real man and example to all of us, and we won't let you. you down and then he plays three minutes of ads the fitting tribute like somewhat speechless uh it feels and i can't understand why i mean it's just a disgusting display of a of a person like i i never i'm never super comfortable with, you know, especially in the immediate aftermath of something like this happening. Yeah.

Because it's so out of hand. It's so out of control. And the pieces of it are moving in such a way that like whatever information was available when we started recording. Sure. Might be different than what is when we're done. Absolutely. And so it's, it's really easy to make assumptions and get out ahead of yourself.

and I don't want to do that, so it's tough. Right. But this, it really feels like it's important, and at the same time, I can't believe what Alex is doing. Yeah. I've watched this guy for a decade and been shocked. And I've made many jokes about will he ever find the bottom? And I don't know. Because I'm surprised by this.

Yep. I'm surprised how distasteful this is. Yeah, I think maybe we got lulled into a false sense of security because he was just so shitty. And sober? Yeah. That you're like, well, I hadn't really considered plumbing the depths of how awful you could be sober. Yeah, no, I do think that there was a boring period. Yeah.

And, and it might have, maybe we just needed a reminder of, like, what an exploitative piece of shit this dude is. Yeah. So, we got it. Yeah, I just, I feel for, I feel for people pre watching this, you know, and then I feel, if people can't see this and step into the light, then what, but then you're, you're there, man. That's where you are and that's where you're going to stay

because that's probably too late. That's just, that's just that. If you can't see that, I don't know what to show you. Yeah, and that's another element of this that makes me, like, slightly uncomfortable because at a certain point, this episode kind of does feel like me just being like,

hey, look at this awful person. And, you know, playing clips, and it could have the feeling of being like, I'm better than this guy. And I don't want to wallow in that, or dwell on that. But like, to some degree, you can just play this and look at it and be like, well, it speaks for itself how awful this is. If there is anything that we should all say, again, like, this is such a, such a Harrison Smith talking shit moment, you know, like, regardless of all the shit people talk, if there's anything that we can do as a society, it'd be better than that.

True. And it shouldn't even be that hard. It's a low bar. can pass it. Yeah, and he kind of did. Yeah, a little. A little bit. Yeah.

If only because Sturt Roads took over. Exactly. Because he was mercifully cut short. Yeah. So we'll be back with another episode, hopefully one that people can do foreplay to, as opposed to this bummer. But until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do. It's knowledge fight.com.

Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo. I'm DZX. Clark. I am the mysterious professor. Woo, yeah. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

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