Knowledge Fight - #1077: September 11, 2025

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan get to enjoy watching Alex continue to try to profit from his friend's death, and discuss his unrealistic goal of getting the Supreme Court to save his business. T...ickets now available for our December 18 show in Portland

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ina, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Dan, and Jordan, I am sweating. Knowledgefight.com, it's down to pray. I have great respect for knowledge, fight, knowledge, fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge. Dan and George. Knowledge fight.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Rattler. Ratt alert. I need money. Andy in Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Stop it. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas.
Starting point is 00:00:44 It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first friend calling. I'm a huge fan. I love your word.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Knowledge fight. Not knowledge fight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Hey, welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? Well, I was going to have no bright spot. You're going to have no bright spot. I was going to tell you that I have a dark spot. You have a dark spot.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I was going to point at you and say that it was me. Yep. And it was going to be because I ordered culvers again. Oh. And I got another concrete. Of course you did. I got the cinnamon toast crunch one. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:28 It's so good. Oh, it's also good. Yeah, because here's what happens with cinnamon toast crunch. Yeah. The texture of the cereal retains a bit. Yeah, it's perfect. It's perfect. Yeah, and that stays, even within the shake, concrete thing.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Yeah. But the cinnamon on the outside becomes absorbed by the ice cream. Right. So now you've got like a horchata ice cream with a little texture. It's just, it's great. Yeah. So I was going to shame myself for that. Sure.
Starting point is 00:01:56 But right before we started recording, we got a zip in the mailbag. We got a little bit of a package, and I'd like to say thank you to Carl from Big J-A-L-M, J-A-L-M. Big Jam, apparently, I see on the side, Al's for love. Oh, I get it. They sent a lot of mini-jams. Yes, they did. And I'm very excited to try some of these. There's one that's a habanero apricot, and what's the strawberry one?
Starting point is 00:02:28 Thai pepper? Thai strawberry. yeah that sounds delicious that sounds very very good yeah so there are what three six nine 12 different jams yeah here and i can't tell you how tickled my brain is it's i'm so thrilled to try some of these there's so many cool flavors it's just great it's just great whenever somebody who's tinkering around makes some shit and then sends it to you it's fantastic you almost feel like uh there's a there's a mad scientisty yeah absolutely kind of vibe with a little berry Just cutting it open, seeing what makes a rhubarb tick.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It feels like somebody somewhere has a cauldron and there's trouble a brewing. Yeah. So we also learned that Marian Barry is a berry. That's exciting. That was exciting. So yeah, thank you, Carl. I'm really excited to try these, and I'm sure a lot of them are going to be great. And the ones that aren't are great, and I just don't like them.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yeah. Because I'm a weird food guy. That's one of the great things about stuff like that, where it's like, you know what? I'm sure this tastes great. It has nothing to do with you. This is all, I just don't like this texture. That's it. You guys are great.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I'm not, well, we'll just not meet. That's fine. I assume that about a lot of foods. So what's your bright spot? My bright spot is today, as you're listening to this, if you are past 10 Pacific time, you are available to buy tickets to our live show. I realized that on our last episode, we mentioned that there was a second show.
Starting point is 00:03:57 We forgot to have. We didn't say any. about when it was when tickets were available if they were available where to get them yep we're dumb we're bad we're not good at this yeah so they're available now they're available now as of 10 Pacific time yeah am and yeah you can get them from the aladdin theater website there'll be a link in the description of this episode uh and folks can yeah same everything no nothing's changed everybody get a ticket same everything except the date exactly Thursday Thursday the 18th Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yep. That'll be fun. And I'm glad that we decided to loop back and tell people how to take part in this. You know, we like a good ambush show as much as the next guy, but maybe we should sell some tickets first. It's more that we were confusing people, I think. Probably. Well, today, Jordan Raven episode to go over. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:50 We're going to be talking a little bit about September 11th, the day that we live in infamy, 2025. And Alex is, of course, a piece of shit. Naturally. And Charlie Kirk has just been murdered. Right. So we'll check in on how all these dynamics are playing out. But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Ooh, that's a great idea. So first, Jack would like to shout out to Solitary Night and awesome LGBTQ positive Twitch and Facebook streamer who plays odd and uncommon and goofy video games. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wong. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much. Can you ever make a goofy video game?
Starting point is 00:05:25 Like the character goofy? Yeah, absolutely. That would be a goofy one to try. um come on you were holding back a laugh i was holding back i was holding back next michael you make my life dreamy creamy i love you so much and hope we can rise above our enemies for years to come thank you so much i'm a policy walk thank you very much thank you and hey dan i can't get in touch with alex could you check on jean hackman tonight it's urgent thanks god thank you so much you're now a policy walk i'm a policy walk thank you very much thank you and we got a technocrat in the mix
Starting point is 00:05:55 Jordan. So thank you so much to To My Amazing Wife, Fenn. Happy second anniversary. Here's to many more years and adventures together with our little ham, roaming the world and listening to Knowledge Fight. Love you always, Maney. Thank you so much. You or now. We're a technocrat. I'm a policy won't. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark, bink. Jar, Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much. Today's episode might be on the shorter side of things. Alex took off on the 11th. He left.
Starting point is 00:06:40 He had business. We'll get to that. Right, right, right, right. But last three left off, Charlie Kirk had been shot and killed at a speaking event he was holding at the campus of Utah Valley University. Alex had exploitatively aired the video of the shooting on a loop and had valid. to do his own college tour in Charlie's honor mere hours after he had come out that he had died. Beautiful. No one had any information about the shooter at that point, but it was reported confidently that
Starting point is 00:07:05 this was a leftist assassin from Antifa, and that this shooting was part of the Podesta Revolutionary Plan that was crafted in 2020, but was put on the shelf for four years because Trump lost that election, so there was no need for revolution. Right. It was all a disgusting display, but nothing too surprising to see from Alex's show. When we recorded our last episode, we didn't know anything. about who the shooter could be either, and I tried to be pretty clear about how it was unwise to jump to any conclusions. The person could easily have been someone motivated by left-leaning
Starting point is 00:07:34 political ideology who hated Charlie, but Charlie had a lot of enemies on the far right as well. Someone from that world could have killed him, or the killer could have even been apolitical in their motivation. I pushed back on Alex's assertions that it was a leftist shooter, not because I know that to be incorrect, but because I know that Alex is making that accusation baselessly. and it's the kind of response that he embodies does nobody any good and can only cause trouble. Now that we're here and a little more information is known about the shooting, details are still a bit sketchy. A 22-year-old man named Tyler Robinson has been arrested for the shooting,
Starting point is 00:08:09 having allegedly confessed to his dad, who then was involved in helping turn him into authorities. It appears that Robinson's father was torn about what he should do once he figured out that his son was the one who had committed the murder, so he consulted with his church leader. Should he turn in his son to face a possible death sentence or stay silent about his son's guilt in order to save his life? It was a moral dilemma that the dad faced, and it turns out that the church does not have a no snitching policy. I was going to say, I feel like just by doing that, you have already decided which one you're going to do.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, I think, well, you know, it's interesting because I do think if you were thrust into that situation, it might be good to seek counsel of some kind. I agree. But I think if you're going to talk to somebody like a priest, you're hoping that they'll take the responsibility off your shoulders. That would kind of be the idea. I feel like you're begging someone else to, look, I don't want to turn in my son. Can you please do it? Especially if you're, I mean, it's not like a confessional.
Starting point is 00:09:05 It's not like you're like, hey, we both agree. Nothing leaves this room kind of situation. And I think even then, you know. Confessionals are still like, we report murders. You can't, you can't, we don't absolve murders totally. Unless the church has a no snitching policy. Which, I mean, there are probably churches, but we don't know about them for obvious reasons. No one talks.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Exactly. So law enforcement has identified Robinson and also released information about messages that he'd allegedly written on the bullet casings. In the case of the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO with Luigi Mangione, there were messages inscribed on the bullet saying delay, deny, and depose. The meaning of these words were clear as they described the strategy that, in charge. insurance companies used to avoid having to pay for people's medical care. Without endorsing anything that he did, these words being put on the bullets represents a coherent political message that could explain the killing. In this case, the messages that were on the bullets were essentially shipposts, and they
Starting point is 00:10:05 don't really point to any definite ideology. One said, quote, hey, fascist catch, then arrows indicating upright down, down, down. This is a, you know, there's an instinct to say that this is an indication of like some anti-fascist tendencies on the part of the shooter, but this is just a reference to the video game Hell Divers 2. Sure. The messages that were inscribed on the bullets don't point to a coherent motive, but point to a familiarity with being too online.
Starting point is 00:10:32 These were jokes that have an irony to them, and anybody taking them literally or at face value is not on the right track with this. And, you know, it's, it's, you can't, you can't, you can't look at this without sort of decoding it through online culture. Any time I have read anything about this, my first instinct was like, none of the people writing about this
Starting point is 00:10:58 should be allowed to write about this. There is a culture that understands what is going on and we are not part of that culture. Yeah. And the people trying to translate it to me are not part of that culture either and they're not doing a good job. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And far be it for me to say that I'm, you know, drenched in this culture. Sure. I don't fully understand a whole lot of the, the way too online irony that people engage in. Not even a little bit. But I see another language when it's being spoken. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:27 No, I mean, anytime back in the past, and I'm talking about the past before the QAnon, anytime something from 4chan leaked out, it was like, guys, don't get near it. You'll never understand. This is not for you. Just let it be in its space. And now there's just a million different versions of that.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Exactly. Yep. So while it doesn't indicate whether, he was on the left or the right politically, this sends a clear message that the shooter is not a sincere communicator and that he was likely a person who came of age surrounded by shitty internet irony.
Starting point is 00:11:59 As it stands, I still don't know enough to have strong feelings about the motive of the crime. I think a lot of people want to jump to conclusions that he's a leftist or that he's a Nick Fuentes fan. And while all of these things are possible, I don't see anything concrete about it as of the time that we're recording. I mean, to a certain extent,
Starting point is 00:12:17 it's almost a I suppose I would say it's something new it's a shot from somewhere that we're not familiar with this isn't the left or the right this is a whole culture the only thing I would push back on that
Starting point is 00:12:34 is that it's fully new I think we've seen a fair amount of it in the last years yeah absolutely I just mean like in terms of our paradigm of how to classify this this is not this doesn't fit into what we would use 20 years ago yeah you know
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yes. This is of the now. Mm-hmm. Yeah. There's a shifting of like the understanding of motivations that we need to take into account. Political ideology is far more fractured. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 So Alex, you know, he left his show on Wednesday. Right. And then came back and yelled a little bit over Harrison. What a great guy. And then did his special report. Yep. And now here on the 11th, Alex. starts off the show and uh you know just pointing some fingers tomorrow's news today witnesses
Starting point is 00:13:24 are now reporting multiple witnesses have told police they've done interviews that they saw the people come claim they were going to talk about one thing and they did and the people asking the questions kept looking back at the roof then they started celebrating this was organized there were people online in the town saying he's dead tomorrow this this is sick this is a real cult believes it owns our children it's all financed by the globalist and we have hours of celebration on the internet under different hashtags we'll be giving you hundreds and hundreds of people mainly school teachers and lawyers and doctors saying good now kill trump Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I got this shit. Charlie Kirk was a fucking Nazi. He was a fucking Nazi. And you know what kind of Nazis the best Nazi? A dead one. So Alex is pitching a story here that involves people debating Charlie Kirk being in on the murder, which seems wildly unlikely. I'm not sure exactly what the selection process is for the guest debaters at these events,
Starting point is 00:14:40 but if more than one of the people who got through in the time they had before the shooting were conspirators, that indicates really bad event management. Yeah. Also, it doesn't seem to benefit anyone to have conspirators be involved in debating Kirk while the murderer gets his shot ready. Kirk was going to be sitting in the same spot arguing, regardless of who picked up the mic to debate him. If what Alex is saying is correct and the people were constantly looking toward the roof where the shooter was, that would only hurt the conspiracy's chance of being successful. Yeah. It feels like anyone who are actually planning something like this wouldn't plant people to debate, Kirk, because there's no upside and a bunch of risks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I'm thrilled that Alex is upset about people posting distasteful stuff on social media, but it's just hard to take his angle on this seriously. I thought free speech was back, and as far as the Constitution is concerned, there's nothing illegal about saying that you're glad someone's dead and that you hope someone else gets killed. It might be unhealthy for public discourse To be at a point where that kind of thing is as normal as it is But that's not the conversation Alex is having And if it were, then we might find some agreement that like It sucks that this is the way people act now Yeah
Starting point is 00:15:48 But you know, that's not his point I mean Whatever happened to fuck your feelings You know, I'm tired, I'm tired I'm tired because I live through the time Where they got to yell about it from one side And now I'm living through the time where they're trying to yell about it from the other side.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And I didn't move. No. I didn't go anywhere. Yeah, it's jarring. Yeah, I'm sitting here. And incidentally, Pete Hankseth, Trump's Secretary of Defense or maybe war now, I'm not sure, has said that people will be fired if they have been found to have tweeted negative things about Kirk in the wake of his death.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And that's not just something that's happening at the Pentagon. NPR reported on 33 cases of people who were fired because they posted something that was seen as celebrating Kirk's death on social media. I don't see firing people for making people for making. taking these kinds of posts as some kind of horrible violation of free speech rights, but Alex definitely should. He's always champion people who faced social consequences for doing something racist, and he's always been able to pretend that he's only doing that out of a concern for the precedent
Starting point is 00:16:45 that it would set about chilling free speech. Right. I only know who Count Dankula is because Alex had him on a bunch because he lost his job after posting a video of him teaching his dog to do a Nazi salute. If Alex took any of the shit he said seriously, he would need to be defending these people who are getting fired for tweeting jokes about Kirk and the fact that he's not should make it pretty clear that in the past he wasn't interested in defending free speech he just wanted to help create a world where
Starting point is 00:17:10 racists don't have to fear any consequences for their racism this is cancel culture right yeah yeah yeah maybe not well see the thing is what we wanted to do now you thought oh we're worried about being canceling no what we wanted to do was get all the way on the other side where we get to do the canceling that was the problem right that was where we that's where it went wrong. Like, I would say something like, uh, the F slur. And then I would get in trouble, but now I can hit people. Mm-hmm. It's great. Yep. Yep. It's, uh, it's just, uh, I mean, I mean, like, obviously these are some things that were fairly obvious in Alex in the past. Sure. Um, but if people can't see through it now, it's, that's on you. That you, you, you,
Starting point is 00:17:56 you can't see what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah. It reminds me of something Douglas Adam said about the serious cybernatics corporation or something where it's like the superficial design flaws are so frustrating they mask the fundamental design flaws which was like that feels like what was going we were so focused on the superficial shit we haven't we haven't been able to really process how fundamentally bullshit this has always been yeah and I think that we've had some indications and some like I'm pretty sure this is all total bullshit yeah but now all of the principles are violated It's got to be.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Everything is bullshit. If you can't see it now, it's on you. Yeah. So Alex obviously wants to make this about himself. Yeah. Because that's what he does. All right. I have predicted every bit of this with total precision because John Podesta wrote a battle plan for it.
Starting point is 00:18:48 If Trump won in 2020, they were able to steal it. They announced they were implementing it on November 5th last year. The no kings, the assassinations, the killings, the attacks on Catholic churches and churches. I'm getting chills right now. And, of course, I got swatted last night. But really, it just adds security to the house. I'm friends with the deputies. They sometimes come over and have a coffee.
Starting point is 00:19:16 They're at the house once a week, pretty much. I got home about 8 o'clock, saw one part across the road, pulled in, pulled pull up. They scan the lights. Everything all right, Alex? Yeah, everybody's inside. Everything's good. Yeah, did you get another fake call?
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yeah. Have a good night. We'll be around. That's not a squatting. And Alex seems very desperate to make himself the victim in someone else's murder. It would be so funny if someone just directly demanded Alex produce the Pedesta Plan. He talks about it like it's a very real and specific thing. So it should be no problem for him to send a copy to the news or anything. Yeah. The Podesta Battle Plan is a great prop for Alex, primarily because it's not real. The Transition Integrity Project put out a 22-page paper on August 3, 2020, titled Preventing a Disrupted Presidential Election and Transition. And Alex has just made up a bunch of fun bullshit about it.
Starting point is 00:20:08 That's nice. John Podesta was a participant in the scenario exercises that they ran, but he wasn't in charge of the group. Alex has just labeled it the Podesta plan because the audience already knows Podesta from Pizza Gate. So it's easier just to say it's all him. Yeah. If Alex said this was the Rosa Brooks plan or the Nils Gilman plan, it wouldn't evoke all the scary associations of child trafficking at comet ping pong snooze who are those people don't care yeah podesta's a villain that's already been built he's established yeah so i i just i don't know he was a dud
Starting point is 00:20:42 i i do appreciate the the echoes of how stupid things can be that being from another bullshit conspiracy that didn't make any sense from the past just makes you like like in in uh in a voting reality show game where like if you get voted out on the first day everybody's like well we're voting you out again like you're just socially it's okay for us to pick on you yeah right we've already got some baggage exactly it's like how soros can be slotted into like literally every conspiracy because the audience has a don't down yeah feeling about discovering that he's behind something yep and uh yeah it's a cheap trick soap opera shit yeah yeah and the thing that's so great about this prop that Alex has
Starting point is 00:21:29 is that he can make it say anything. Yeah. The Podesta Plan involves shooting Charlie Kirk. What the fuck are you talking about? When? The Transition Integrity Project lays this out. What the fuck are you talking about? At what point while they're writing that,
Starting point is 00:21:44 are they going, maybe we shouldn't put this in paper. The plan to assassinate a guy, maybe we should just, we could keep the oral history. Let's just talk about this one. Yeah, let's not press release. least this one. Maybe don't do that. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, I, I really don't think that Alex got swatted. But regardless, that making it about himself isn't quite enough. So he's got to, he's got to talk about how good of a shooter he is. Oh, God. I've got to really hand it, uh, to, uh, don't do that
Starting point is 00:22:14 Q. And I'm not talking about Q the online thing. I'm talking about, uh, highly decorated Army veteran friend of mine who's head up my security. He called. called me out of country running a mission about 30 minutes for Trump officially announced that Kirk was dead. They wanted to talk to his family first. He said no. He was shot from the roof with a high-powered rifle and Quentin is so smart and I'll see if I can get him on. He said he came on yesterday when I called back. He didn't answer because he was in operations. But he said going into his zone, he couldn't use his phone. I'm not going to say where he's at. but he said it's a 30 odd six i can tell about the sound of the gun
Starting point is 00:22:58 i mean that's how good his ears are for what different gun different rifles sound like he said bolt action 30 odd six would be his guess and that's what it is so and yeah you want an accurate gun that's a good good good one right there uh people saying that this would have to be a professional to shoot somebody at 200 yards in the neck um you can train a 10-year-old with a 308 to shoot Bullseye at 100 yards in an hour. By the time I was 14, I could shoot at 100 yards for the same hole over and over again with a three-power scope.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Now with the new stuff, I mean, I've shot Mountain Goats 800 yards, dead center in the throat. When they pop their head up, and I'm not as good as some of these military shooters, though I go out and shoot. them. I'm about an average for special operations type people, you know, in the grade of my shooting. But the point is, my daughters are basically as good a shot as I am. I get it. I get it. You're good. You're good at shooting. Cool. That makes you a cool and cool person. Yeah. Super cool. I think, um, I think this point is fully illustrated by saying, uh, it's not that impressive of a shot. Yep. You don't have to talk about how you're about as good as all the best marksman in special operations and also you've trained your daughter?
Starting point is 00:24:27 Well, the only reason, you know, Q talks to me is because we're both so good at shooting. Right. Like, I know he's active duty and he's in the no phone zone. No phone zone. Right, right, right. But, you know, I'm just an amateur, the greatest there ever was. So, no big deal.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Some people, like, legit are just born with it. Yeah. And what are you going to do? And to be clear, I'm a better shooter than this assassin. And also, I'm better than my daughter. And also, I'm more important than Charlie Carter. Kirk. Jesus Christ. What a piece of shit. Total piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Shocking, outrageous piece of shit. I was like, what's an exaggerated thing I could say? And it was like, no, he probably thinks that too. I bet he 100% would say right now. Well, Charlie Kirk didn't mean anything. How can I discuss this guy and not be super disrespectful, but also be super disrespectful? Right, right, right. Absolutely. Well, I'm a great shot. I could have done that.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I could have killed three of him. You could have lined him up behind another one of him, and I still could have shot that guy. That's how good I am. It's fucked up. Crazy. So the shooting has all the earmarks of a staged event. A false flag? Not really, no.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Just an elaborate conspiracy. Oh, okay. There are so many angles here. There are all these witnesses on local news, and you can see it in the videos happening, that people were chanting in the crowd, killed Charlie Kurt. I feel like they weren't. Kill Charlie Kirk. And you can hear it in the audio, there's lots of talking and yelling.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And you're like, kill Charlie Kirk, kill him, kill him. And then this questioner gets up and says they're going to bring up one topic. They come up and say, this is what I'm going to talk about. They bring them up and they go, I want to talk about trans shooters. And then the witnesses report, the people step back. And then a lot of people, the crowd start. turning around and looking, going, look, look, and boom, right there. Like, it was a Shakespearean stage this happens,
Starting point is 00:26:30 and the witnesses are like, this was staged. Because, I mean, the word was out on the local liberal trans news. Like, he's dead tomorrow. Well, whose news? Who's news? It's over. He's going to dissolve tomorrow. I have all the tweets, the post, all of it right here.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And they're like, yeah, yeah, great. They're trying back. Great job. people are like, hey, there's a guy on the roof. I don't know what kind of trans news networks Alex is talking about, but if he was able to find all this chatter that illustrates pre-planning of the shooting, then two things have to be true. One, we should be seeing tons and tons of arrests of people involved in the conspiracy by this point. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And two, Charlie Kirk's security team should have flagged this in advance. Yep. It's kind of, it almost becomes too obvious. Yeah. And Alex, as the big stand-down conspiracy guy, maybe should be suspicious. Seems like if what you're saying is true, then a bunch of people were openly planning an assassination. And yet, I mean, historically speaking, when a bunch of people openly plan an assassination, we have a lot of evidence from, you know, they're planning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Like say January 6th. You think of a time whenever you would look into it and you might see text messages from person to person saying, let's go overthrow the government. Planning meetings. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of that stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So also, in order for any of this stuff to be true, then the person who is debating Kirk when he was shot has to be in on it. Yeah. Based on what Alex is saying, that is totally the case. Because if not, if that's not what he's implying, there's no reason to say any of this stuff. It's just necessary. Right. This person is a guy named Hunter Kozak, who's since publicly discussed his experience. I know that Alex can just casually accuse random people of being involved in murder plots and there aren't any consequences.
Starting point is 00:28:20 but that doesn't mean that I'm going to stop pointing out how horrible and dangerous this behavior is. Yeah. And sure, if people were chanting kill Charlie Kirk at his event, that's not good. But it's also ridiculous to think that that would be connected to any actual murder planning. Yeah. I don't mean to sound callous or anything, but in pro wrestling, there's a famous story that
Starting point is 00:28:40 the rock, he ended up turning heel because he was trying to play a good guy and the crowd hated him. They would chant die, Rocky, die when he came out. And the bosses realized that the audience wasn't connected. with the rock as a hero, but they might respond to him as a villain. Pro wrestling isn't about good, conquering evil, or evil, conquering good, even. It's about slotting people into good and evil characters to maximize the audience engagement and investment in them to tell quality stories and sell merch.
Starting point is 00:29:07 The media ecosystem that Charlie Kirk thrived in operates pretty similarly. He's a good guy to the folks on his side, but he really only occupies that space because he's a villain to the other side. his fans hate the left and he basks in the negative attention that he gets from the left in order to play up the image that he's a villain to them which makes him a hero to his side right what i'm saying is that if i were charlie i would love hearing kill charlie kirk chanted at one of my rallies the fact that these people who his audience hates would hate charlie so much validates the idea that he's an important hero for them and without those optics this whole brand falls apart pretty quick i mean like how much can you do a prove me wrong debate if the people who you want to yell at you don't show up. Yeah. You know, like it requires this antagonism in order for it to exist. Yeah, you have to be a character that people love to hate
Starting point is 00:30:02 on top of being a character that the hateful people love. You know, that's part of the combination. And the people who are coming and chant and kill Charlie Kirk are, I mean, I'm not saying that they like Charlie, but there is an element of it that they're like they want to engage as the voice that's chanting that. It's not a love to hate, but it kind of is. Well, I mean, there's, and there's just a certain part of it, you know, when you say love to hate, it's not a pleasure to hate so much as it is like a, a, well, it's not a coincidence that Tucker Carlson's voice is also so fucking annoying that it gets inside your head. Well, of course, they like him more because you hate him more, you know, the combination of the two.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah, their political ideology is. largely based on triggering the libs and making everyone mad and like he's really good at making people mad that's like someone chanting horrible shit is proof of concept so like absolutely i don't know i i just i think that there's something that is so wrong yeah about the way that that has that's just what their world is yeah and it's it's impossible to to exist as a stable thing yeah Like, you can yell horrible shit at a wrestling show because it's K-fabe. Yeah. It's a fake world.
Starting point is 00:31:25 No one's actually going to attack this person. Yep. But that kind of behavior, once it's in the real world, like, there's no K-Fabe there. Like, shit happens. Shit happens. Yeah. And that's not good. There are consequences in the real world.
Starting point is 00:31:40 That's why we invented the fake world. So we could keep that shit there and still have fun. That's the whole idea. Don't bring it into the real world, you idiots? No. I mean, it's effective. That's why wrestling is popular. Right. It's cathartic and people really enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:31:55 That's the idea. Yeah, but it only really works when there's not human stakes attached to it. A bunch of dicks. So I told you that Alex was going to leave. Yeah. And that's because he has secret missions to go on. Law stuff. I wasn't going to be here today because I have a multiple missions that are critical to the Republic.
Starting point is 00:32:15 So I'm leaving a little bit later. I'll leave it at that. but I will be doing work from the road and I will be in multiple locations on the east and west coast in the next three days. I'll just leave it at that. Okay. But things are coming to a head
Starting point is 00:32:27 and it's been recognized by folks in the administration that we have the best analysis of what's going on and what's going to happen next and how to counter them. So I will be consulting with different organizations and groups in the next three days. So I will not be fishing
Starting point is 00:32:46 when you don't see me here. So Alex went to D.C. And he met with Ed Martin. Okay. Martin was Trump's initial nominee for U.S. attorney for D.C., but the Senate made it clear that they weren't going to approve this appointment. So Trump with Drew Martin and appointed Fox News host Janine Piro. So this guy was crazier.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Okay. Than Janine Piro. All right. So that's where our benchmark is. It's got to sting a little bit. That has got to stay. Because you have to know that, like, there's no standard. and you don't meet them.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And you're still zero. Yep. So Martin landed on his feet and he took a role as the pardon attorney for the Department of Justice, spearheading what Alex likes to call the weaponization task force. That's supposedly investigating DOJ weaponization against people who were too loyal to Trump. Right. I like the opposite of a retribution squad. I'm president of the pardon squad.
Starting point is 00:33:38 We're just going to let everybody go. Well, no. Nope. No, no, no. Because the pardon squad is about investigating. Biden's pardons. Right, exactly. So it's about removing pardon. It's once again a retribution squad. Yes, quite. Yep. So what's going on here is essentially that Alex is desperately trying to beg for the Supreme Court to overturn his. Right, right, right. Yeah. And so he's going to
Starting point is 00:34:02 lobby, basically, to Ed Martin and whoever will listen to him in D.C. Great. I have no idea why he's going to the West Coast, though. My gut was going to be like he's going to go be on a podcast, but it feels like all the big podcasts he would be on or hosted by people who followed Rogan to Austin. Yeah. So it wouldn't need to go to the West Coast. Yeah, that's fair. I have no idea. But we'll see.
Starting point is 00:34:23 We'll see what happens. Maybe he's looking at investors. Maybe he's trying to find somebody to buy it. Who? Hey, listen, I'm not going to the West Coast. I don't know anybody on the West Coast who might buy it. He's the one going, so maybe he knows. There are rich people.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah, but I think that anybody who's, you know, going to be in the conversation. to put up that kind of money to buy this, would recognize how dull an investment it is. Anybody else could just start their own supplement labeling company? All right, I've got a new plan. Okay, now this is news that you don't keep up with. But my friend, Kauai Leonard, all right, he was signed to the Clippers,
Starting point is 00:35:01 and they just found out that he got a no-show endorsement deal from just some random company for $25 million outside of the pay package that he had from the clip. But this company, does it exist? Probably not. So it was used as a way to give him a bonus because the NBA has a hard salary cap. Okay. So this is all part of it. So Alex is the bag man? Alex is going to exchange the money from a fake company set up by Steve Balmer, owner of the clippers, and this is how it's going to work. That's how we pay Kauai Leonard and own InfoWars and keep the clippers as a medium level of organization. And Charlie Kirk was
Starting point is 00:35:43 on to this and that's why you have to die it all makes sense it almost makes too much sense so uh i i will track this as time goes on but i do think that it's worth noting that uh chase comes in to fill in for alex on the main show chase doesn't even work there anymore and he's still higher in the batting order than harrison isn't he in arkansas he came back he came back after owen left he came back well i don't think he came back like on a permanent basis but i think he stepped in because Charlie Kirk died and Alex needed some backup. That's, that Chase, Chase, Chase, Chase, Chase. I, uh, look, I, uh, hey, Brendan, uh, I got to go talk to the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Every time I get out, they pull me back in! Brendan, Brett. I have to go, uh... You want to see a dead body? I have to go, uh, lobby, uh, the highest court in the land to try and get away with, uh, slandering people's dead relatives. Oh, my God. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:36:37 So, um, he's, he's, uh, back in the saddle a little bit, but, but, I don't, don't think it's a permanent thing unless like Alex like incarcerates him somehow I mean just just the more this happens the more I feel like we're inching closer and closer to the weirdest possible future where Chase owns all of info wars because he's accidentally signed so many papers that they just default go back to him and then he's he's like well if I own it I might as well do it and he just becomes the new info wars by himself I mean you know the what you're discussing It might not be a total accident. This could be craft.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Do you think Chase is Kaiser-Sosaying all of us? It's possible. Are we getting Chaser-sose-Aid? It's possible. He's positioned himself in a really unique, weird place. He's a really unique place. Where his name is on the documents for the Alex Jones Network. Their only sponsor is Bigley, and now he works for them.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Yep. So, like, I don't know. He's put himself in a place where Alex can't squeeze him out. Yeah. Is this, is this like a... It's a hostile takeover. This is a Michael J. Fox in the 80s movie where somehow at the end he's the top of the corporation. This is what we're dealing with, right?
Starting point is 00:37:48 I think so. And if so, I mean, I suppose it could be worse. Yeah. So the left is going to rise. And they're going to take out cops. They're going to take out everybody. I strongly doubt that. Well, Alex is saying it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And Podesta warned us. And so they're going to hit police. When they hit, they're going to hit. they're going to hit the police they're going to they're going to hit everybody i mean i can tell you i'm not at my house we're this is the point out gone gone for the seeable future bye-bye this is when i finally i've never left about this this morning i'm like we're out we're out so this is it They're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And now you know why Trump's trying to get you ready for the military and the rest of it. Because Podesta said we put the compilation of articles up. What? They're going to have the blue states to seed in cities. They're going to call it all racial. And they're going to trigger a civil war. That was four and a half almost five years ago. It was actually five years ago, August of 2020.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And they said, we're going to do the plan again. And I keep repeating that because there's the plan. There's the plan. literally had the White House, and I'll people go, really, where's the Democrat plan for that? I'm like, you don't know? Some do, the Pentagon knows. The Pentagon. I know the FBI knows.
Starting point is 00:39:23 But even at the White House, they're not taking it seriously enough. Yeah, they shouldn't. So this would be a totally fine angle for any other right-wing radio host to have, but with the career that Alex has had, he can't do shit like this. No. He's saying that the left is super scary and planning all these crimes and unrest. which Trump is going to have to put down with the military. Because Trump knows that this is right around the corner,
Starting point is 00:39:46 he's starting to use the military for domestic policing, so citizens get used to the idea of military police. That's fun and all, but this is exactly what Alex has always said the globalists do. I can't count the number of times he's used the analogy of a frog in a pot of water and how if the heat goes up gradually, you don't notice. Humans have a normalcy bias. These are the things that he talks about all the time. Alex is describing Trump using psychological tricks
Starting point is 00:40:12 that he's been very clear or tyrannical strategy to ease the population into slavery and he's in favor of it. Other talk show hosts could probably get away with pretending to be ignorant of these dynamics, but this is a cornerstone of Alex's worldview, so you really have to be delusional to not get that he understands what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:40:30 The difference is just that Alex supports this police state in the same way that he would support the police state in the 50s and 60s that tried to put down the civil rights movement. When there's a world order that's trending towards liberalism, the state is the greatest evil imaginable. But when the powers that be start prioritizing inequality, that calculation changes. It can change because he was never against tyranny or state oppression to begin with. He just wanted it not to threaten him in groups he feels like he's a part of. Through his formative years, Alex's dad was a John Birch society idiot, so he was raised
Starting point is 00:41:03 with a lot of those influences. And then when he was becoming an adult, the militia movement of the 90s was in full swing. Ruby Ridge and Waco happened, which solidified an impression that the state was targeting white Christian separatists, which was topped off by the OKC bombing, a clear false flag meant to convince everyone that white Christian separatists were a legitimate threat. And Alex has lived in that mode for his whole life. Everything is in conversation with this feeling. Bush did 9-11 in order to start a war and demonize foreign terrorists, but the end goal was
Starting point is 00:41:34 really using the expanded powers they gained in order to fight those. terrorists against white Christian separatists. All of the false flag mass shootings that have been done to erode the Second Amendment, all of that is just an attack on white Christian separatists because they love their guns and might need them to overthrow the country at some point. Right. Everything that seemed important to Alex on a conceptual level really hasn't been important at all, and it's plain to see all that stuff slipping away now.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Conspiracy and false flag accusations are a tool, and Alex's recent actions help illustrate how this is really all it's ever been. The power structure is now clearly on the side of white Christian separatists, so instead of using conspiracies and accusations of false flags to attack the power structure, Alex is using them to bolster the power structure. Alex is saying that Trump is using federal troops as police in order to acclimate the population to the site of military on the streets, and the justification is that he needs to do that because the left is planning all these horrible attacks that need to be stopped. So from that, we can say that it's possible for an incoming threat to necessitate a president to use the military as domestic police, an act that violates a fundamental part of the Constitution for Alex. There is an example case where that is appropriate. If that's true, then it's pretty simple to say that Bush should have been able to use military as police if he felt the terrorists posed a big enough imminent threat. Obama should have been able to use the military as police if he thought that domestic extremists posed a big enough threat.
Starting point is 00:43:01 if it's possible that a potential future threat justifies despotism, then the only variable that matters is what the president considers a future threat. And that can be an acceptable argument for someone to have. I would expect that a lot of the right wing during Bush's presidency would argue that sometimes protecting against extreme threats
Starting point is 00:43:21 requires curtailing rights. I recall them saying it explicitly. Yeah. I'm not saying that you can't make that argument. But Alex can't. Alex can't. It is counter to the DNA of what he's built over the last 30 years. And to see him saying that kind of shit is just like, that's like me starting a supplement business.
Starting point is 00:43:40 It's fucking out of line. I mean, if you believe anything that you've ever said, then the moment you say like, oh, Trump did this because of a threat he sees coming, then you have to then make the next step, which is, oh, well, Trump is the creator of this threat. He's creating the threat in order to do, that's your whole. whole life. That's literally how it's been since fucking Napoleon. Right. Everything. Everything.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And the world has always been this. I mean, you should even say, like, you're a big thing is quibono. He's bringing it a hoop benefit. So, of course, he's the one creating the threat. It's not the left. It is Trump. That's your definition of how things work. Yeah, problem reaction solution.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Exactly. That whole ideology is completely out the window when it is convenient. Yep. It's fucking garbage. It is so frustrating. It is frustrating. Yeah. You know, you just hear stuff like this and it's just, I feel for people who could possibly still listen to Alex and think he cares about anything.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yeah. Yeah, because the general idea behind belief systems is it's very helpful to kind of predict later on what somebody's going to do in given search situations. You know, for the most part, belief systems are just social clubs. They're just a place to get around and to be. be with people and you say similar stuff to each other so you create that bond right but then you choose that belief system because when you need to do something about it that's when you go oh i rely on the bible that i would do this blank thing but i'm going to do what the bible says that's my belief system sure right whenever you realize that you were just they were just there the bible had nothing
Starting point is 00:45:25 to do with it you know it was nothing then it's like oh well then what what am i supposed to believe ever Yeah. You know? And, like, when you make a belief system that's based around some kind of virtue and shit, it's like, okay, I'm great because I'm not killing someone right now. Right now? Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:43 But, like, if I then am in a position where I can kill somebody and maybe it's advantageous for me to do so. Yep. And I do it, then I never really believed the killing was wrong. No, you didn't. I just wasn't in the position to kill. I didn't have to. I didn't have the opportunity. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And that's the truth about Alex. Yep. It's just for so many people, it has nothing to do with opportunity. But for some people, it is just like, the only reason I'm not committing crimes right now is because they are not directly in front of me to commit. That's it. I can't steal.
Starting point is 00:46:16 There's no store here. Yeah, exactly. I would, but there isn't. But stealing is so wrong. And I would never do it. So wrong. So, look, the real issue, though, is the Dems. They're so disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Obviously. Obviously. So disrespectful. Obviously. they mean business and then Newsom was in a podcast last night he said no even though this happened we need to just punch him in the face and Pocahontas said nope I'm not going to call for downback our rhetoric and they wouldn't even be quiet for a moment of prayer in the congress and just booed and yelled during it got all that so on the day of the shooting Elizabeth Warren
Starting point is 00:46:53 posted that she was praying for Charlie and said quote political violence has no place in our country it's never okay. However, right-wing dipshits like the hosts on Fox News immediately started running with the narrative that democratic rhetoric was to blame for the shooting because all the Dems are so violent with their speech. Sure. Because Fox was covering the news from this angle,
Starting point is 00:47:12 it led a reporter to ask Warren about this position, and she said, quote, oh, please, why don't you start with the president of the United States, right? Right? Fox News's spin on the story created an opportunity to trap Warren in a situation where no matter what she says it plays into Fox's narrative.
Starting point is 00:47:28 If she responds like this, they can say that she refuses to take responsibility for the violent rhetoric of the left. If she's conciliatory and says that both sides are heated, they can say that she admitted that the left is too violent. This is a game. And even when someone like Elizabeth Warren goes out of her way to be polite and respectful, it doesn't matter. No. People are shitheads who are just going to lie about you. Yep. As for the prayer in Congress thing, Alex is lying about that.
Starting point is 00:47:54 The House observed a moment of silence in Charlie's honor that was respected by each of the people. even the evil Democrats. After the moment of silence ended, Republican Representative Lauren Bobert protested that, quote, silent prayers get silent results and demanded that the House let a verbal prayer be said. Saying an impromptu verbal prayer isn't allowed by House rules, so she was essentially asking for special privileges. Sure.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And, you know, that's what caused the problem. She was demanding things that they can't allow her to do. I mean, listen, sometimes you just need a divorce. You know? Sometimes you just need a divorce. Of course. So someone yelled, quote, what about the kids in Colorado in reference to the Evergreen High School shooting that also had happened that day.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Jesus Christ. Naturally, this was a bit humiliating for Bobert since he represents Colorado in the House. So fellow Republican and former Turning Point USA employee Anna Paulina Luna came to her defense saying, quote, you all cause this. Order broke down a little bit, and Speaker Mike Johnson struggled to get the house back on track, despite doing a lot of shushing and gavel work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:56 But finally, they did come back into the center. This is, like the Fox News coverage with Elizabeth Warren, a trap. Lauren Bobert is a U.S. representative, so she should know the rules and be aware that she can't just say a verbal prayer on the House floor whenever she wants. But by making that demand and having the other members of the House grumble and shoot her down, the story is no longer that Bobard made an inappropriate request. It's that the Democrats yelled over Charlie Kirk's moment of silence. That isn't true. And no matter how anyone reacted in this situation, the babies get their way. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And it's important to understand how much of their strategy is based on that. Yeah. That, like, they are trap builders. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's important to remember that the guy who got his ass beat by a cane in Congress was really not a fan of slavery. And the guy who beat his ass, huge fan of slavery. I was watching the video of this whole thing go down.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Yeah. And, you know, like, I had heard about it from, like, Alex and seen maybe a tweet or two or something. Yeah. And the sense that I got was that this all happened during the moment of silence. And I was shocked to go watch it and see the moment of silence end. And then all of this happened. But even leaving that aside, I was just like, man, Black Johnson is not commanding respect. And I was like, what happens if they just don't shut up?
Starting point is 00:50:23 Yeah. Like, what happens? Nobody's going to stop them. Can't bring the house into order. I mean, eventually, I guess they're going to call in the National Fucking Guard. I guess. They're right there. It was crazy because it felt like, well, I don't know what you're going to do other than tackle somebody.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Like, this doesn't seem like anybody is really, it doesn't feel like lead. No. I mean, I don't know. Fucking Palpatine dissolved the Senate. Who fucking knows what's going on now? Lord knows what could happen. right shit's crazy do you think Lauren Bobert is Jar Jar
Starting point is 00:50:57 is she the one who's going to usher in a never ending Dark Side Empire probably so yeah I think that means it's she's Jar Jar Jar okay yeah so Alex is obviously distraught about losing a friend sure and that's why
Starting point is 00:51:13 he's continuing to talk about how he's going to just steal his skin great and I didn't announce this through bravada or to act tough I publicly said I don't do a ton of public speaking engagements because I know I can do more digitally and I'm and his work was important had to be done at the colleges and I admired him for his courage and said that I said he's doing that job he's got that lane if he wasn't doing it I'd be doing it they won't
Starting point is 00:51:35 even let me on the colleges they riot so bad we tried but I now have a responsibility and so to all of you to peacefully speak at city councils county commission school boards colleges I don't care of us to 100 people are a thousand all of you have to go out and speak out on the street corners at church everywhere because this is an attempt at intimidation and to shut down our access to speech and a chilling effect so i'm getting all these calls when are you doing it where are you going i've got to get it organized i've got to talk to different groups that sponsor it people can reach out to me that do this i will go with with turning point um and i'm going to go out there and i'm not going to wear a bulletproof vest
Starting point is 00:52:17 I'm going to do it a nationwide tour because that's what this is about. It's not about sticking your head in the tiger's mouth just to act tough. We don't have a choice and we have to lead by example here. Now, I'll tell you this, if I walk out somewhere and there's 3,000 people
Starting point is 00:52:35 and the police haven't stuck people on the roofs, you know there's a stand-down by their managers that told them not to. And if I walk out and I see nobody on the roofs, Well, then I'm going to come out and point that out and be looking for it. And I'll be like, there's a shooter, there's a shooter. All right, it was a setup. Seriously, that's what it's because I'll be waiting.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I'll be watching when I'm speaking. Oh, there's the shooter right there. All right. Get yourself a good shot there, big man. Now's the time. I'm going to come out of the Batcave into the third dimension. I come out when they got lockdowns going. They're shutting down the parks and the bridges
Starting point is 00:53:17 and the restaurants. I come out when I'm at January 6th trying to stop people going to the building. I come out when I'm needed at key points, and I'm coming out of the cave. You can kind of see the scripting of what Alex wants to do here. He's making it a little too obvious that he wants to go out and pretend that someone is trying to shoot at him, and it feels like it's mostly rooted at him being jealous of the attention that Kirk is getting. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:53:40 This is still less than 24 hours after Kirk got shot, and Alex is already making himself the hero of the story and imagining getting Kirk's old company to fund his college tour. This is disgusting stuff just on a human level. I mean, one of the simple things to recognize about saying something like, I'll go do this thing because I'm better than him and I won't get shot implies that it's his fault. You know, it implies that if Charlie Kirk weren't Charlie Kirk and were instead Alex Jones, Somehow, this never would have happened. Well, I mean, certainly they weren't watching the rooftops.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Right? Just by virtue of the greatness of Alex Jones, if you insert him into any natural disaster, it will not have occurred. Sure. Because he's so great. Yeah. If Trump were president, no wars would have ever started. And if Alex were running everything, there would be never any security lapses of no one would ever throw coffee on him or anything. But this, of course, he doesn't care, requires him to also say.
Starting point is 00:54:45 that other people deserve what they get because they are not as great as me. Eh, that's a side implication maybe. Yeah. So when Alex is talking about the times that he comes out of the cave, he wants the image to be that when shit gets serious, he takes to the streets.
Starting point is 00:55:00 But the reality is a little bit different. When easy attention is available, Alex is willing to leave the studio. That's all this is. When the COVID restrictions are starting, Alex could make a video being a huge rebel by going to Barton Springs for a swim. He could pretend,
Starting point is 00:55:15 to be a revolutionary by yelling at an underpaid employee somewhere who was wearing a mask. It was an attention and publicity feeding frenzy because people were scared and desperate for anyone who was projecting confidence. When Alex gets more engaged with the world outside his studio, it's either because he's desperate or because he sees a huge opportunity to put in minimal effort and gain big amounts of attention. Right now, it's probably both. And yeah, who cares if you're exploiting your dead friend to do it?
Starting point is 00:55:44 Oh, man. I mean, at least he really didn't care slash didn't like Charlie Kirk, right? Isn't that what we're all happy about? At least Alex isn't actually grieving the loss of a friend because he didn't like that person. I guess. I guess it would really throw me for a loop if he was destroyed. Yeah. Yeah, it would be.
Starting point is 00:56:08 So at least this comports with my image of who I think this shithead is. Yeah, it is so strange. It is so strange because I understand why people think the way they do. I understand why they do the things that they do. But I don't understand how you could fire somebody for being like, hey, man, this guy sucks. And not also understand that Alex is saying far worse things about him through what he's saying. You know what I mean? Like, I understand it's not explicitly Charlie Kirk sucks, but the around this.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Yeah, I think that there's a, you know, there's a debatable, like, better. or worse hierarchy to I think it's great he's dead and I'm going to profit off his death. Right, exactly. Those two are both horrible things to say about someone after they die. I'm not saying that they're great, right?
Starting point is 00:56:54 But I'm saying if I'm looking at the two of them, I'm going, one of those is a person getting out some stuff and the other one is a person who's going to destroy human society. I think I would rather somebody dance on my grave than monetize my grave. Right. I think.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Although I don't know if I can. I mean, you'd be dead. Yeah. Yeah. But just in theory, I think that dancing on it would be less distasteful. Yeah, you know, what the dance ends. Who knows when the monetization ends? It's a business.
Starting point is 00:57:21 It's not supposed to end. It's supposed to go on forever. And dancing is like a fun process. Maybe you get something out of it. Maybe you get something out of it. You know. Yeah. Or at least, you know.
Starting point is 00:57:31 It's not a capitalist enterprise. And I get to fight back. Now your shoes are muddy. Maybe you need new shoes. See? We all lose. Maybe you need a new shirt. Alex might have one for you.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Uh-oh. Not like I'm reclusive. I just can digitally sit here and reach so many people on 400 plus radio stations, hundreds of TV and cable stations, massive viewers on Rumble, infoors.com, for slash show, exit, relax Jones.
Starting point is 00:57:52 So I'm strategically, you know, as a general in this fight, and I've been parading around right at the front line. I'm in a forward bunker up at the front line. But now this is the time to be George Washington and lay it on Providence and get out there. In fact, I'm excited to do it. Now's the time.
Starting point is 00:58:11 to exercise our freedom. Now's the time to show courage in the face of intimidation. Now's the time to let these bullies know. We're all Charlie Kirk now. Oh, God. I want to put a T-shirt out. It's like a black shirt.
Starting point is 00:58:24 No. With red, white, and blue. Come on with the red, white, blue shirt that shirt that's a bad ass. It's the best shirt I've seen. Rob, come in here if you can, stand for the camera. People can see the shirt.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I want one that says, we are all Charlie Kirk now. and I want to everybody put it out put out your own you might notice that Alex definitely isn't going to put out
Starting point is 00:58:46 a Charlie Kirk Memorial T-shirt and give the proceeds to Kirk's family it's a nice thought to want to honor his memory but Alex is also
Starting point is 00:58:54 going to be sure he makes a buck off it I know I say this a lot to make a big point of this but this guy's a fucking piece of shit he's supposed friend die less than a day ago
Starting point is 00:59:04 and he's brainstorming on camera ways that it can be profitable for him this is disgusting. Yeah. Yeah. It is, it is so perfect an encapsulation. The, the juxtaposition of somebody getting fired from fucking CNBC for saying something mild. Like, maybe we shouldn't yell. Let's go kill each other all fucking day. Violent begets violence. Right. Violent words and
Starting point is 00:59:30 thoughts become action. But you know what? They would have, they would have been fine with this. They would have been fine with this because this is about making money. Yep. This is about hurting anybody's feelings isn't about being mean this sure we suck the bones of him dry and let his family starve to death yeah but this is about making money well i think the essential piece of this is that alex is like charlie was a fucking shithead opportunist sales guy he made a lot of money his family's fine yep i can try and get a piece of this uh i can wet my beak here no better way to honor his memory than to steal from his memory It's fucked up
Starting point is 01:00:09 It is the circle of life I see this and I'm just like I feel like this level of Not treating each other like people I'm glad that I don't I don't feel like this Yeah And I dread the idea of running into someone who does Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:27 Yeah it is it is interesting to think that maybe this whole Conservative ecosphere is congealed around the only people Who could possibly behave the way that they do It could be self-selecting in a way. Like, it's just... You're just the people who can act like this, and it's an unfortunately profitable way to act. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:45 In the same way that, you know, being a con person was profitable. That's why people did it. They did it all the time. It was free. Yeah. Hmm. So it turns out there was some advance warning,
Starting point is 01:00:56 advanced knowledge. You know, we heard about the trans news networks. Right, right, right. Local news is dying, but I'm glad that trans news locally is still strong. Yeah. So Alex touches on. some advance notice stuff i want to get to trump statement here but but i want to show you something
Starting point is 01:01:12 first okay now grok confirmed this i went and looked it up and confirmed it i saw this last night and i wanted to wait and check and a whole bunch of corporate publications a full day before charlie was shot put out articles saying Charlie Kirk was shot and killed, but just the headline. Ah. So if I were Alex, I'd be fucking embarrassed by this. For one thing, he said that Grok had confirmed this news, which is really, really sad. But more importantly, we do this every time there's a tragedy that Alex can exploit.
Starting point is 01:01:54 There's always some time stamp that mysteriously shows someone reporting on a thing before it happened. Some idiot will post something like this on social media every time something happens, and Alex will report it as fact each time. and he's always wrong. AI bots were wrong about so much in the wake of the shooting, and Grok was even telling people that the video of Kirk being shot was fake and that he was okay for a while. Great.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Those tools aren't meant to determine truth. They just scrape information from places that the person running them tells them to get it from. If Elon Musk is feeding his robot, all the dumb shit people post on Twitter, and who knows what other disreputable message boards, it's going to just regurgitate that information. It's not confirmatory. Yeah. It doesn't have that value.
Starting point is 01:02:37 And the fact that Alex is saying Grock confirmed this, it just shows how much he's given up. Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of these people have the conception of AI in a like more imagery framework. Right. So they view the internet. Imagine the internet is a big landscape, right?
Starting point is 01:02:57 Then you have the AI, which is like a person, like a concierge. Yes. Oh, let me have. But what it really is is just all of the. of the internet squished into a square and you're trying to find the even smaller part from the square and that doesn't help you it doesn't help you at all it's just a square yeah and it's like it's like making a search engine uh talk to you yeah you know like it's making it conversational because you don't want to read multiple things right and great that's that you found a shortcut
Starting point is 01:03:30 for that but it's inconsistent and you're going to get bad results the irony is that Alex's view of what this stuff is, is just, it's the same as the AI con people who are trying to treat it like it's a god of some sort. He thinks it's an oracle. The same thing happened at the very dawn of search engines, whenever you would have like ask Jeeves and it would be like, here, just ask it a question. That's what you do. And that was even personified. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Yeah. It's the same. It's the same shit. and yeah so I guess most of this is about there was a AI created I think book about Charlie's assassination probably someone just put in a prompt and it spit out a book and it was on Amazon and they had the release date wrong and so it had said that it was released on the ninth but it was it was released on the 10 so an AI generated shit book was then picked up with a poor date by another AI generated shit poster to then do the thing and then that turned into a circle jerk of AI bots releasing all this shit that's my understanding of what happened yeah we should really not be doing any of this it's usually oftentimes what happens is that there'll be like a facebook group or something like that that uh has uh oh it predates the event right but it had changed its name or something like that
Starting point is 01:04:54 it was a pre-existing group and someone trolled people with that right but this this appears to be some sort of just weird glitch thing oh man Anyway, Trump has announced that he is going to honor Charlie Kirk's memory, unlike Alex, who is exploiting. This is just now breaking. President Trump announces he is awarding Charlie Kirk a posthumous presidential medal of freedom. We're all Charlie Kirk now. This is going to backfire, but they're going for it. Good luck selling that shirt. So I feel like I could be a dick about this and say that Kirk shouldn't get this medal, but honestly, who cares? Here's a list of some of the people that Obama gave one of those things, too. Right?
Starting point is 01:05:35 Lauren Michaels, Michael Jordan, Tom Hanks, George H.W. Bush, and Gloria Estefan. Why not? It's a nice honor for people to be given, and, you know, there's a lot of very deserving people who have been important figures. Sure. But it's also kind of a way for presidents to hang out with their favorite celebrities. Yeah. And in his first term, Trump seemed to maybe give it to a disproportionate number of golfers. Huh.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Weird. You know. Weird. Yeah. Crazy. It's just kind of. Did they play around a golf together? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Strange. It's just kind of a thing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I think that there are other medals and stuff that would be far more distasteful for someone to get. This is just kind of like, who cares? No.
Starting point is 01:06:16 You know, it all makes sense. And then you, but if you look at medals as a whole throughout time when governments give them, not good. Not good. I mean, I, you know, I was scrolling through the list of recipients and, you know, like General Wesley Clark got one back in the Clinton administration. And I think that it might cheapen his feelings about it for someone like Charlie Kirk to get one. But I don't care. It's not that big a deal how Wesley Clark feels about his medals.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I mean, I don't, I understand that it's like, here's the difference, right? It's a metal, and I get that you have a little thing right there. And I get that it goes on a list there. Wait, wait, wait. You're imagining it's like a little thing you pin to your... No, no. I mean, you know what I mean. That's the motion that you made.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Right, right, right. But I was just, you know, whatever. You get the thing. But to me, it's identical to just getting a regular picture with the president, right? Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit of, it's a special meet and greet, but like, yeah, sure. It's exclusive company in a way, but, you know, I don't care. Yeah, I don't care either. So, Alex is off on his missions, and he talks about how he thinks that shit's going to work out.
Starting point is 01:07:25 I bet it is. The Supreme Court's going to come in and help him. I just want listeners to remember something. I didn't even talk about our case being in the Supreme Court, it being all over the news yesterday, because this Russia escalation with the drones, looks like a false flag was so big, and then this happened. But even mainstream media goes, wow,
Starting point is 01:07:43 Jones was found guilty by judges. Looks like it wasn't fair. Oh, my God. Looks like the Supreme Court's going to take it. Didn't even get to that. Because we're busy covering the other big issues for everybody else out there. But remember, we need your prayers, we need your support, and we need you to financially go to the Alexson store.com
Starting point is 01:08:03 because I am, again, right on the edge of the red. I've got seven lawyers, Toplins, suing the hell out of the Democrats, the law firms, deposing them, finding all the stuff they did. It's been referred to the Justice Department. Just Department is investigating it. I can tell you that. And I'm going to stop right there, but that's what I'm going to be gone the next few days. It's part of my mission I'm on.
Starting point is 01:08:23 But I'll be on air, you know, popping in. The point is, is I got swatted last night. I don't make a big deal about it. It's happened so many times. They just come by and make sure everything's okay. But I'm obviously a target just like Kirk. Just to understand, we're doing this because, not because we hate the globalists,
Starting point is 01:08:40 but because we love America and our families. We don't fight because we hate the enemy. We fight because we love what we're defending. That said, this isn't a game. And you've heard me predict. They're gearing up for the Podesta Plan to launch massive unrest and political assassinations. Next, they're going to hit their own people
Starting point is 01:08:56 and a false flag. Oh, so you're fine then. If next is they're going to false flag their own people, then Alex is safe. So now, now, oh, wait, why? What? Well, because I guess it wouldn't be believable to, you know, do two false flags in the same direction. You kind of got a ping pong back and forth.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Right. You know? Right. Boy, that sounds like a risky line of work. Well, let me, let me just. Explain. Alex is probably convinced that there's going to be some retaliatory violence against the left. That would make sense.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And he's preemptively trying to explain it within his framework of this stupid pedestrian plan garbage. Yep. And he wants your money. The Supreme Court already declined to take this case like six months ago. Yeah. I don't know what other, like, I don't know if you can just keep badgering the Supreme Court. Can you keep asking them to hear a case? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:55 I guess maybe. But yeah, Alex thinks that he's going to be able to reignite this flame. Yeah. I'm going to D.C. to talk to Ed Martin is a big part of trying to sell that. And failing that, Ed Martin is somebody who's willing to talk to Alex. Yeah. Alex did post a photo on Twitter of him with Ed Martin. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:17 So, like, this gives the air of legitimacy to his, like, I'm still in a fight. I'm not giving up, yeah. Yeah, it's as close as he's going to get to, like, actually hanging out with Trump. So, like, I kind of get the strategic move. Yeah. Like, I don't think the Supreme Court's going to decide to hear this, but, boy, you're making it look like you're trying. Really? Really are. I mean, and you never know.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Maybe the Supreme Court goes on an ayahuasca retreat and they go, wouldn't it be hilarious if? And that's what happens. I have no faith in the. Supreme Court, or at least greatly diminished. Sure. But just based on the fact that they've already declined to hear this, it makes me think, like, what could have changed? Right.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Since six months ago. No. Nothing. No. If it wasn't a First Amendment issue, then it's not now. Right. And as much as cynical as I can be about these courts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I still think just the fact that they didn't hear it before means it's probably not traction now. Yeah. I mean, we're, we're that, this is. This would be the level of a Supreme Court Justice meeting going, well, let's just burn it all down then. You know, like the whole law, let's just, no, it's whatever I fucking feel like on whatever day we're talking.
Starting point is 01:11:35 That's where we're at in terms of if they take this case. Gorsuch is passing the blunt from squeed. And he's like, hey, man, wouldn't it be funny if we did it? It would have to be that level of fucking, let's just go wacky with it, you know? So we'll see what happens with all of this stuff. chase filling in for a bit so man i hope next year he is owner sole owner and operator of info wars and why not just making ai alex jones absolutely he's already done it he has he's already done it yes he's already done it he's just fucking downsize lower your overhead get rid of the
Starting point is 01:12:16 expensive talent keep the talent absolutely completely replicatable by ai it's identical You could not recreate a person, but an AI could be Alex Jones in a heartbeat. Yep. Yep. God, that would be so fucking funny. Yeah. If Alex is like the biggest example of someone who AI takes their job. Yep.
Starting point is 01:12:36 If he ends up like a drunk just on the street in Austin yelling about how the globalists and Chase took his job. It would be, I don't know, I think we would have to make a monument to it. We would have to build a monument to the time Alex. like Scott replaced by AI. Yeah. It would be, it would be. And you and I would have then witnessed an amazing story. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:00 If that ends up happening. Yep. God, I hope that happens. Yeah. Anyway, we'll check in. See if there's any progress on that front. But until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do.
Starting point is 01:13:11 It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX. Clark. I am the mysterious professor. Woo, yeah, woo.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Yeah, woo. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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