Knowledge Fight - #1077: September 16, 2025

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to witness Alex demanding the federal government crack down on the left and kill people for their Discord messages.

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I'm a huge fan. I love your world. Knowledge fight. Not knowledge fight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Hey, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan.

We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. A quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? When you go first? My bright spot, Dan, is I just recently finished this book just yesterday called King of Kings.

Okay. And it's really, really good. It's about Jesus? No, it's about the Iranian Revolution. And Ayatollah Khomeini and the Shops. And all the big players, you know, the CIA, if you've ever heard of them. Wasn't Chris Weber the King of Kings? Do you mean the Sacramento King of Kings?

Yeah, wasn't one of his nicknames? Was that one of his nicknames? I think it was. I'd be fun. All right, sorry. No, no, no, no. It's basically the same level of importance. But it's really interesting and it's really great.

And I liked it. And it is an exhaustive listing of how everybody involved in every possible way was stupid. Except for Kamani, who was, like, invited to take... It was wild. It's wild if you read it. But here's one of the things that it reminded me of. That scene in Half-Baked, fuck you, fuck you. No, but that's what...

That one's great. That one's great. No. It's that all of these books are written from, like, this main character point of view, right? And at no point in time is anybody like, okay, well, if we wrote, like, 40,000 of these books about the people who are doing the rioting, and we could have just been like, oh, well, instead we fed them. Like, it never occurred to any of these people

to be like, well, why don't we just feed people for a while and then we'll work this shit out? Sure. It's amazing. That is a thought that gets lost in the shuffle. Never considered. Yeah. Never considered.

I think that it's time to create a new political party, and that is just bullying people into feeding everyone. I genuinely, here's what I think. And this is what I was thinking about it. Like, if you want to, the thing about feeding people is that if you want to feed everybody, along the way you will wind up having to solve every major political problem we have

to get there. It ends up touching a lot of other ones. Yeah. That is true. Yeah. And that's just a concrete, fundamental thing that you can do is just give people food. All you have to do is feed people.

And somehow it's like if you want to do that, you have to fundamentally restructure the entire United States. And that teaches you a lot. Yeah, it does. Well, I'm glad you enjoyed this book about Chris Weber. Yeah, it was great. Weber had a good career.

A lot of injuries, but, you know, what are you going to do? Yeah. What's your right spot? My parents are in town visiting. Yeah. So we've been having a nice time, went to dinner. Yeah. Going to go see a state park or something.

Nice. I like it. Yeah, it's a nice time, you know. Yeah. Families around. Can't see Chris Weber anymore. No. I've been sassing them a lot about how they're in the big city.

Yeah. Because they live in Kansas City. Of course. And, you know, that's not a small town. It's not a small town. But it's fun. It's fun to pretend that they're Kansas City Hicks. Coming to the big city.

I don't know if I think, I think it works, maybe it doesn't deserve the moniker city. But, you know, what are you going to do? Kansas town doesn't work as well. Kansas City is big. You underrate it. It's a city for sure. All right, all right. I think, yeah.

Well, they got a football team. Yep. They do. But so does Green Bay, and that doesn't really count as the city. And baseball. That's true. Green Bay doesn't have a professional baseball team. That is true.

That changes everything. Kansas City's got it all. Probably a soccer team. Who knows? Does it have a restaurant by Alex Gwionichelli? Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, then I guess it does have it all.

Prove me wrong. All right, I can't. So, Jordan, today, we had an episode to go over. Interesting. We're going to be talking about a little bit of September 16th, 2025. And that's, you know, Alex was out of studio. He was poking around, having a good time out there on the road, talking to Ed Martin up in D.C. All right.

Yeah. some other business. Trying to get it done. And he comes back to the studio on the 16th. And, you know, it's just bad. It's just, it's just real bad. It's just bad. And we'll talk a little bit about it.

But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Dan's playing knick-knack, paddy whack with St. Celine, the quitsats hotter cat. Thank you so much. You're now a policy won. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Next. Sorry to my beautiful wife, Pernila, for breaking my toe and then, listening to Knowledge Fight continuously on our honeymoon. Also, hello Alexander from your loving father who didn't name you after Alex Jones. Thank you so much. You're a policy won. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much.

Thank you. And Caitlin, hippie, papy, Bethas, so, so, so, she, she, shes, many happy returns from Brad and Batman. You guys, does Alex know that shrimp are bugs? Thank you so much. I'm a policy won't. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we've got a second grade at the mixed store.

So thank you so much to. I was supposed to have this for Valentine's Day, but I'm the slacker, not Dan and Jordan. So happy Valentine's Day, birthday, and anniversary, Devin. Thank you for being amazing to our raptor princesses and the emotional sport pelican to Mr. Roper. Thank you for introducing me to this podcast and for not losing your mind, even when you binge the entire back catalog. Thank you so much, John, I would take a grad. I'm a policy walk. Four start.

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Sharp. Bomb, bam, bam, bam, bam. Jar, binks. has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser, little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people.

I renounce Jesus Christ. I like to imagine that that was from you, but then I realize your wife has never back to... No, no, no, no, no, not at all. And it would be funny if she introduced you to the show that you do. It would be difficult for that to occur. But, I mean, it would have temporal implications, I think. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah. So, obviously, the thing that is taken over most of the media's attention at this point is Charlie Kirk being killed. Sure. And the ongoing attempt to demonize people based on it. Everybody's doing great. Yeah, so good. Yeah. I thought one sign of how deeply fucked up the world is, is that J.D. Vance hosted a bit of Charlie Kirk's show.

after he died. And, you know, I think that there's a line between tribute and inappropriate. And when the vice president of the United States is hosting your podcast. Here's what I love. Here's what I love about this is that quite the opposite, I believe, of what everybody has been trying to do. It has been made crystal clear that no one gives a fuck about Charlie. Kirk. No one gave a shit about Charlie Kirk. This is purely for whatever everyone could use it for. It's dangerously opportunistic. It is hilarious. Man, I mean, it's sad. What we come

down to all the time is like the stuff that we see these people do and that we witness by virtue of doing this show is fucking hilarious in a script. Yeah. And it is not in the real world. In the real world, it's scary as hell. Yeah, there were a lot of things in King of Kings that were very funny, but only because we are now in the future. Yeah, if they're not happening and people aren't heard by them, it's kind of funny the idea that the vice president is hosting a shitheads podcast

because he got killed. It's, it's, how do you even properly convey the like not give a shit about this human being? Like if I'm, the person that I would feel worse for would be a Charlie Kirk who had tried to Tom Sawyer

his own funeral and saw all of this happen and go, fuck, no one cared about me at all. I'm very useful right now. I did not exist. Awful reason. I was trying to think of an analog even, and I couldn't come up with, like, if Terry Gross got murdered, and then Kamala Harris hosted fresh air.

It's only possible. It's only possible in a murder of crows, you know, like only these, only these beasts in specific would even be capable of doing something like this. I thought that was really funny and shocking and a sign of like how deteriorated expectations are like the vice president should not be doing this whatever we think about you know

left or right or anyone's political stuff like that's not that's unbecoming yeah well and I think also it it points to the viewpoint he has of himself which is equal to the one that we all have which is that he's not a real person you know like you're not I understand that you're the vice president, but you're not real.

You don't matter. You're a meaningless vestige. So, of course, go ahead and host this podcast. You're a thing. You're an idea. Right. Can you imagine Joe Biden in the middle of fucking Obama's presidency while they're murdering bin Laden just being like, hey, also I'm going to host this show real quick.

What? Yeah, I'm going to host WTF. Yeah. What? What? That doesn't even track because there's no, there's no left wing. Charlie Kirk. Nope.

There's nothing like him. I guess maybe some streamer or something like that. Like Hassan gets killed and then Biden steps in on his show. I guess. What a weird world. What a weird world. Crazy. Anyway, everything's a mess.

Yep. So Alex is back and he's talking about how this was Antifa. Sure. Antifa done did this. We're not. Thank you for joining us for another historic. extremely important broadcast. Remember, you are the Paul Revere's.

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All right. The bottom line is this. Charlie Kirk's execution last Wednesday in front of the world is a shot heard around the world it is a thousand times more powerful than the sad death of George Floyd because it was deliberate

and it was done through hate and it was done by a system of open mind control created by the CIA and MI6 that is the trans slash Antifa movement. So I guess trans and Antifa are the same thing now, which feels like sloppy messaging on Alex's part. But to be fair, he doesn't really have any reason to be precise.

He's created a show where everything he likes is godly and everything he doesn't like is demonic. So everything blurs together and who gives a shit. Yeah. Since we last recorded, there have been some developments on the Kirk killing story. And each step along the way, the folks on Alex's side of the fence have been desperate to try to find a way to blame trans people for the shooting.

Sure. The first attempt was just to say that the shooter was probably trans themselves because they like to pretend that there's a giant trans-terrorism problem and the people debating Kirk when he got shot, the guy who was debating him was discussing how Kirk is part of pushing a hysteria around this issue. Sure. So they're going to push a hysteria around it. Yeah.

Yeah. When the shooter was arrested and it turned out he was a cis white man, there were some other attempts to turn this into the kind of story they wanted it to be, ultimately landing on focusing on the shooter's roommate who's allegedly a trans woman, who he may have been in a relationship of some sort with. Great. As far as information that I've been able to see so far, there's no evidence that this person had any foreknowledge of the shooter's plans.

And in fact, there's some strong indications that when they learned what he was doing, they were shocked and upset. The FBI has said that they're cooperating with the investigation. So from my perspective, I don't even think that naming this person is appropriate right now, because I don't think they did anything wrong. It's clear, though, that this story is now, like, this is what this is going to be about. The shooter's politics are a jumbled mess, and he's just a white guy from a Trump-supporting family, so there's not a lot for someone like Alex to work with.

But it appears that he may have been in a relationship with a trans woman, so the guilt for the shooting is going to be transferred onto her no matter what. Yeah. And that's bullshit. No, I think we're all doing great. I think everybody is just really crushing it. You know, it was, it was like, can you imagine this reaction if, from any of these corporations to somebody on Fox News talking shit about George Floyd, like the day it happened? If you remember some of the things that they said about that person on TV for 24 hours and then 24 more hours and then over and over and over again.

And now it is literally like, hey, guys, maybe stop screaming. Let's go kill each other. you're fired like it is insane it's insane yeah yeah there there does seem to be a lot of cancel culture going around uh now that seemed to be the worst thing in the world before yep but oh well yep perpetrated by corporations who have our best interests in mind perpetrated or enabled yeah like you know whether or not like where the ball starts rolling is that's a debatable question but they're allowing that ball to roll for sure believe it so look everything's fucked yep And Alex has determined that there is a group that planned this.

And he has all the evidence and all the discord messages. It, of course, is now confirmed that he is the shooter, confessed to it, wrote manifestos on it, huge discord chats with more than 20 people encouraging him. Six people the day before in the town alone who are trans supporters or trans said he'll be dead tomorrow. Just watch. They went online after he was killed. Wednesday and celebrated and said, See, I told you he'd be dead. Alex is lying about these discord messages that have been released.

There's no messages that have shown premeditation or planning of the attack. All of the evidence that's out involves messages from after the attack, one chat where the shooter confesses to his friends, and another where he's joking around about how a doppelganger is trying to set him up. Law enforcement has said that they want to track down the members of these chats, which is about 20 people, not because there's advanced knowledge of the murder, because these people would be close to the shooter

and possibly able to provide some insight into his motives. Sure. Bottom line, Alex is just lying and making things up because it's way easier than having to prove something and none of his ding-dong septuagenarian audience knows what discord is. Yeah. So he can just say, it's all on the discord.

Yeah. And great, it's like the white papers. It is a fundamental disadvantage to even give a shit about what actually happened. You know, like you're in, you're in the space where giving a shit about what happened is the absolute furthest thing from your mind it's how can i make this as much as possible yeah and that's you know you we it's difficult to explain but like it feels like we're in a situation where alex has gone from like he would play defense yeah about shit and make shit up and it was a pretty

aggressive kind of defense and now he's playing offense and you can't play defense against his offense without playing the same game that he's playing yeah you surrender your ability to care about what's actually happening in order to play a defense against this yeah absolutely and it's it i i don't quite know how to articulate it but it it feels like it feels like it's a trap yeah I mean, what we're watching is all of these people dig gold out of Charlie Kirk's fucking coffin. They're just digging as much gold out of there and trying to suck as much money out of his corpse as possible. And then you have to pretend to play a game where they're like, oh, isn't it terrible what happened to them? The game that we're playing is you guys are getting money from this.

That's what it is. You guys are getting money and you are pushing, like, hate a lot further. than you were probably able to last week. Yep. You know, there's the palpable, you know, demonization you're able to justify based on the stories you're telling about this. Yeah. And, yeah, it, I just don't know what to do. I mean, until people are more uncomfortable with digging gold out of a corpse than they are with saying,

fuck that guy, I don't, I don't think what we're going to do is. anything different. It's an imbalance. Yep. So Alex touches on the news of this roommate slash possible partner of the shooter. And you have the eyewitnesses and the neighbors of him with his trans boyfriend, both of them dressing like clown creatures, other Gimp-like creatures in the house, the town reportedly completely infested.

This is what's going on in the elementary middle schools and high schools. This is the type of sick system that they're setting up. Remember the CIA in the 50, 60, 70s, 80s, 80s, and 90s, over 30,000 children in West Germany give into convicted pedophiles to, quote, create a new family, a new culture. Well, that's been done through this in the West as well. And it is absolutely, totally and completely backfired. That clip is insane.

Yep. It starts with anecdotal stories of the shooter and his roommate being dressed up like clown creatures and then gets extrapolated out into a claim that this whole town is infested, presumably by LGBTQ folk. Yep. In his head, Alex connects this story to a headline he remembers about Germany, which he misremembers as being about sending 30,000 children to pedophiles. That was a real story, but Alex is fudging some details and avoiding context, and then he basically is saying that the same thing is happening here in our elementary school. and everything. This is just an elaborate fantasy

that Alex has constructed to reinforce his bigotries. Yeah. And man, it's a mess. Just hopping from lily pad to lily pad. Yeah. Yeah, it is so fucking... It's so frustrating.

It's so fucking frustrating to listen to this shit go... Like, here's what I'm thinking of when I hear that shit, right? I'm thinking of how at the end of World War II in Japan, right they had people going around with these cars with giant speakers before the Americans would come anywhere near them that was like please don't kill your children and yourselves Americans aren't cannibals but because that's the propaganda that's what you had to do you had to convince people of this level of shit then you would see people who'd killed themselves and their own children to avoid being eaten and it's like this is what happens if you convince people of such bullshit this is this is This is the same thing.

This is getting people hurt for bullshit. It very much is and will. Yeah. And we need, you know what sucks? It's like, I don't feel like those kinds of trucks would be effective right now. No, absolutely not. That's what cannibals would say. Exactly.

That's exactly what that would have. These fucking trucks were paid for by the cannibals. Absolutely. The cannibals, where do the cannibals stop eating each other long enough to build trucks? Yeah. That's a bummer. Yeah. Anyway, there's a satanic trans organization that is behind this murder apparently.

And Alex has cracked the case. Got it. All right. Thank you for joining us today. We're now getting a crystal clear picture of a trans antifa devil cult in Utah that was absolutely behind the murder of the great Charlie Kirk. And we have ongoing continued mass celebrations, not just here, but around the world by leftist demons. pastors and members of Congress and just thousands of teachers as the main group, lawyers, doctors, scientists, absolutely celebrating Kirk's death.

This celebration stuff is still just Alex whining about social media posts. I just want to make it clear that Alex doesn't actually want to play the guilt by social media association game. If he thinks that people posting TikToks joking about Kirk's death are distasteful, wait till he sees what fans or guests of his show have posted in the past. Because I don't think he would enjoy that much. If he was forced to take responsibility for the shit these other people have posted, please. I think I recall him being in a courtroom taking responsibility for some of these things. And he didn't do it.

You know what? And it was big of him to take responsibility. It was, wasn't it? Yeah. Also, he seems to be setting himself with a really difficult case that he now needs to prove. He has literally nothing to go. go on other than vibes. And he's claiming that there's a full on satanic trans cult behind Kirk's shooting.

This is just dumb, but it doesn't matter. His audience is never going to demand that he prove this. Yeah. It's just, yeah, of course there's a devil cult. And it's not even like they care if it's actually a devil cult. They could even just be like, oh, yeah. No, don't worry about it. That's just his way of saying normal trans people, which is worse.

Yeah. Yep. Yep. So Alex wants fucking arrests. Yep, and big ones. Yeah. He wants the federal government to fucking crack down. Sure, on to everybody.

Yeah, it makes sense. We have thousands of innocent J-Sixers arrested. Old ladies drug off to prison for walking between the velvet robes being waved in on J-6. Those people were innocent. With the left, they're openly terrorists calling for violence, engaging in violence. And when they break the law, they need to be absolutely prosecuted to the full extent of it. And if I don't start seeing serious arrests, and I mean within days, I am going absolutely against Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, and Dan Bongino.

If I don't see some action to protect the American people, then you are aiding and abetting it. I've seen a bunch of foot dragon on everything. else and I know they've been blocking your appointments and suing you and everything you do and I understand you've got an uphill battle but on this it's cut and dry I want you to do your job right now and I'm giving the FBI and the DOJ and Trump's on their ass I can tell you that I was just in D.C. He's yelling at them. I'll tell you someone who started doing their job the person who does the delay button. It was surprising not to hear shit. Yeah. He's gotten real loose with swearing lately so. I feel like I've heard some swears. Yeah.

Yeah. So if there aren't any big arrest soon, Alex isn't going to war with Bondi or the FBI. This is such an empty threat. But I think he also definitely means what he's saying. Sure. He feels this way. Right. But there's no, there's never going to be any follow through. Yeah. The things that Alex wants the Trump administration to do are illegal on a basic level. He wants to use the idea of the Kirk killing to be used as a pretext to clamp down on tons of LGBTQ organizations. on the pretext that they're supporting the, quote, trans ideology that was behind the murder. Alex wants to see the largest crackdown of civil rights

and the largest violation of those rights in the modern era. And he knows that kind of thing has to happen fast or it won't work. His whole career has been about screaming about the Hegelian dialectic and how the globalists create chaos so they can bring in their preferred form of order. That order wouldn't be appealing to the public if the public weren't being terrorized by the chaos that the globalists created, which has the effect of corraling people to their chosen solution.

As they look for safety. In the past, Alex has pretended to be opposed of this kind of leadership, but it's clear that he's neutral on it at best. And if you're going to usher the population around based on manufactured crises and you want to use as focal points, it's important that you act quick. It's not a coincidence that the Patriot Act has passed about a month after 9-11. There was momentum, and if they waited much longer, some of the stuff they wanted to put in that bill

might have run into trouble and not passed. This isn't really all that different. Alex wants a huge, very illegal response from the state, and he knows that the window of opportunity to use Charlie's death is slim. As horrifying and shocking as it was, we live in a world where passions die down fast, and attention moves on to some other very pressing story. Alex is demanding immediate action within days,

because delayed action isn't an option. He knows that you got to strike while the iron's hot. Yeah. We didn't do anything about Epstein. So. He didn't either. I think we, no, that's what I'm saying. Like, if I'm any of these people, I'm going, well, all of the Epstein stuff, we lost pretty

hardcore on every possible front. So one, this is, again, very, thank you, Charlie. Thanks for helping. This makes us all feel a lot better about ourselves. Thank you for reheating the iron. Yep. Absolutely. We really did not strike while that iron was hot and demand any change.

We said we were going to really demand a lot of change. And then we whiffed. So you've reheated the iron and we're going to demand again. Oh, yeah. And then later probably be like, ooh, next time. I mean, the idea of after Epstein, after all of that, to then be like, now we're going to put pressure on Patel and Ponte. Guys, you're under their boot.

Be done. When we're talking about clown creatures, you all have beclowned yourselves. Yeah, it's almost impossible to take any threat of Alex's, like, with any kind of like, oh, this time I'm going to be mad. Yeah. Sure you are, buddy. No, he's best friends with the baby raper. You're fine. Yeah.

You don't, if you're not out now, no amount of leverage exists. Yep. You're just a real ding-dong following along. Yep. So Alex has decided that he wants the death penalty for not just the shooter. No. Everyone in those discourse. We have armies of scum forming, celebrating murder, celebrating death, giggling, laughing.

It is absolutely out of control. This is their John Podesta funded insurrection. This is the main crisis for our republic. So I want action, and I want action yesterday. I want it now, now, now, now. And when you got your warrants? Now. It is, I even got mad.

I love our writers of our crew, but they always want to be very restrained. Oh, it appears there were people with prior knowledge in the town. It doesn't appear. They're like, he'll be dead tomorrow. Watch the day they kill him. See, I told you. You have prior knowledge. You're aiding in a better.

You didn't call the police when you got told your buddy and your cult was going to kill. Turns out he knew these people, not just online. At least 20 in the discord, at least six in the town. You knew he was going to kill Charlie Kirk and God forbid shoot other people that weren't even the target. And you didn't do anything. You are an accessory to capital murder. I want them arrested. I want them indicted.

I want them tried for aiding and unlawed. a betting and capital murder as accessories and I want them to be given the lethal injection. I want them dead. Huh. That's what we do to people like that. Protect the people. Christians? American people.

Arrest these terrorists. Give them fair trials and then kill them. Kill them. Federal government. Do your job. Kill them. Kill them. Kill them. All right. We're not taking it anymore so yeah

put that on is uh wait who's not taking it if you're telling the government to murder people i think we are taking it i i look it's disorienting because of Alex's entire life but him screaming that the federal government needs

to kill people kill them kill them kill them where are we what what do what we're where we were all along it's just there's no pretending anymore for sure he's not pretending to have some kind of like I'm just no now I'm just interested in the logistics part okay so now

we're past it right obviously the government's just going to start murdering people left and right right no just left exactly what are the logistics though you know like how are we doing this are we are we doing like to sound like a broken clock or whatever but Daleks with guns I mean that's I feel like firing squad is the way to go let's go classic especially with Daleks I want yeah well I mean evergreen idea. AI AI is now to the point now where we have to put Daleks with guns in there. And of course the dreaded, uh, soil

green trucks. Yeah. That Alex has said, we're coming with COVID. Yeah, I want, I want, I'm going to go with blindfold and cigarette. I'm fine with that. I'll go out like that. These days it's going to be a vape. The mother fuckers! Blindfold and a VIII. Finally, there's a reason to hate

modernity. You know what it's going to be? It's going to be VR goggles and a vape. you know what that's hey listen you watch a little VR port and you get shot in the head oculus and a fucking jewel god damn what a world um yeah i think that there's something just inherently fucking embarrassing about being Alex Jones and yelling that yeah like i i don't know there's something embarrassing about being anybody who says that the government should kill people just on account of like think about what governments do when you're like hey kill people not good Never.

It's never gone good. It's so funny because Alex takes credit with popularizing the term demicide. Yeah. Murder by government. He's such a fucking loser. God damn. You know, here's the thing that gets me about people who really do kind of tend to know the Geneva Conventions. How willing they are to throw them aside at any moment's notice.

Yeah. Like collective punishment is wrong. How about? Hear me out. What have we killed everybody who was near? by at any given point in time. That's the only way to be safe. That's the only way to be safe.

Yeah. So Alex wants to crack down on the left because, of course. You will do your job and you will protect the American people or we will have your ass removed and we will find people that will do their job. Quite frankly,

most of the feds are running around arresting legal aliens and gangbangers that are illegal aliens. That's good, but I think half of those should be cut back now and put on domestic terror, operations for the avowed left saying they want full... I mean, MSNBC at headlines, we've done major polls. Majority of Democrats want blood, want war, want to kill.

Yeah, we know. What? We know. What show is this? So, do your job. Yeah, there's Nordine famously when I had it. tries to hit him with a metal baton that can kill you. He knocks the guy out defending himself,

and they call him terrorist for that. Oh, you're a terrorist. Somebody tries to hit you in the head with a metal baton. Boom! That's what they don't like. Well, that's what the constitutional, federal officers under Trump's command have a right duty to do as symbolic is Nordine.

They're swinging at us. They're killing us. They're attacking us. This is what you do through the courts. through law enforcement. That's what law enforcement needs. That's what the Trump administration. That's what the FBI must do now. This right here. So to be clear, when Alex mentions Nordine, he's talking about Ethan Nordine, one of the proud boys who was charged with seditious conspiracy for trying to overthrow the election on January 6th. Sure. Prior to that,

he was a street fighter guy in the in the proud boys. And, you know, that guy was coming at him with a baton because he had already assaulted people. Right. Right. Right. Right. Do you remember his nickname based sick man that was a different guy oh i don't know was it was it just baton man no rufeo pan man no it was that guy ethan nourdine was rufio pan man he has a name yep they should have taken it from them yep rufio pan man is the model for federal police this is what we this is what they should have done from the beginning i'm sending them to prison terrible idea j-sixers remove their names make them go by their stupid nickname absolutely your name is done We have removed it.

Yeah, so, I mean, I think that Alex is showing a little bit too much of his ass. But what are you going to do? Okay, this is... Do you know what? Okay, look, I love that the feds are out there trying to catch all people they suspect of being in. I mean, obviously. I love that they're doing that. Of course.

Now, half of them should start building FEMA camps to put the left in. Well, yeah. I mean, honestly. Obviously. that's just we need to maximize our resources here's what I don't get right this is this is again this is the thing that I just don't get I I mean I understand oh we're so angry yeah that's fine but this doesn't actually accomplish your goals right you know like if your goal is to get rid of the left or whatever the FEMA camp thing historically always just makes people like hardened and then there's a terrorism and then there's a revolution and then we do it all over again right unless you learn from the lessons of the past and be harsher. No, that's the opposite of how it works. Right, maybe.

But I think that you have to look at this from like a sort of there's a bifurcated goal. Sure. And there's the, you know, working towards a society that crushes the left. Sure. And also Alex making a lot of money. Yeah. And this is, a lot of this is more in service of that. Yeah, that is a good point.

He's like speaking to an audience that wants. to hear this. Yeah. And that's more, like, obviously it's closer to where his heart is also. Sure. But he's now living in a world

where you don't have to pretend that it's like, oh, so scary, the government. Oh, no, they're going to get, ooh, no world order. Oh, no. You don't have to do that shit anymore. Yeah. You can be like, we run this shit.

We're in control. Rufio Panman is a hero. I find it strange. to think that somebody, because we're of the age, right? So somebody's in the army right now or whatever, who's my age. Like this guy grew up when Limp Biscuit was on TRL, right? And then now he's going to get an order that's like start killing regular people. And then he's just going to do it.

Like, that's crazy. Well, you just got to keep rolling, rolling, rolling. Exactly. You know? That's what I'm saying. Like, what a wild thing. Why wouldn't you just be like, But really?

Nah, I don't think so. You know what I would say if those orders got passed down? Yeah. Give me something to break. I was going to say I ran out a gas immediately. When fascism rises, we are all in together now. We are all limbiscuit. So the media, everybody, they want to flood the zone with all this fake stuff about Charlie.

Trying to make him look bad now that he's dead. Right. right well i mean nazis tend to look bad but only only if you make up stuff about them if you don't then they get to be angelic little cherubs forever like charlie deserves to be okay let me tell you something else they're doing i'm going to do a little bit later they are flooding the internet just like with trump with fake quotes remember trump i hate all mexicans never said anything close to it remember trump i think the kKK are very fine people remember that he said the opposite he said the kkk are not very fine people. Overhead shot. Romish and people with this, please.

They are flooding the internet with stuff like this. Black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot. Charlie Kurt, July 23. Never said anything close to that. Absolutely not true. So Alex says that Charlie said nothing close to that. Right. But here's what he said on his show on July 13th, 2023. Quote, if we would have said three weeks ago that Joy Reed and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racist. But now they're coming out and saying it for us. They're coming out and saying I'm only here because of affirmative action. Yeah, we know. You didn't have the brain processing power to

otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously. The unfortunate reality is that Charlie Kirk was a racist and he recorded him saying a lot of the stuff that takes away from the saintly image. image that Alex and his ilk want to create now that he's dead. These statements in his career remain. They're real. So in order for Alex to deal with that, he's just decided he's going to lie and pretend like, oh, he didn't say that stuff.

No, he did. He absolutely said that stuff. That's what, that's the problem. That's my point about all of this is that what all of these people wish they could do now is remove everything that made Charlie Kirk a human being and just simply have their version. Yep. like essentially they want to i guess kill charlie kirk he is he if they're able to sanitize his

image in the aftermath of this he is worth so much more to them dead than a lot yeah absolutely they don't want to as alive he just goes to more of these college events and argues with people yep and he makes a lot of money and you know there are gains that are made in terms of um You know, conservatism on college campuses, having a stronger foothold. There's, there are benefits to his continued push. Sure. But for folks like Alex, especially, like, this is far more useful than that.

Yeah, no, they love that he's dead, which is ironic how their entire thing is about being mad that people are like, hey, it's fine that he's dead. But here's the ironic thing, too, is that, like, Alex agrees with what Charlie Kirk said. Yeah, absolutely. In that quote. Of course. But he knows that I have to make him out to be like the most middle of the road person who was killed for his really tame speech.

Totally. And just polite disagreements that he was having with people. Yep. So in order to, like, in order to sell him as this martyr, Alex has to deny things that he agrees with Charlie about. Everything that Charlie Kirk was. Everything that made Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk needs to be. sanded down until he is

a fucking store mannequin. Yeah. And they can dress him however they like. Yep. So, so if anybody's killed Charlie Kirk, you got it. Yeah. They're actively involved in killing like the memory of what he actually was. I would be, as a person

you would be like, don't do this to me. Yeah. Like I think that it's making a misrepresentation of his history to pretend he was wearing a swastika and yelling slurs all the time. Of course. Like, that's a caricature of him.

Sure. But Alex is doing the opposite. Like, he's making a caricature in the other side where he's just like, a good Christian boy who just wants to pray and everyone hated him for it. Right. And both are insulting versions of, like, his memory. Exactly. Anyway, Alex gets to talking about how Antifa, you know, those guys. Oh, yeah.

They need to be, they're terrorists. Sure. Trump needs to treat them as such. Sure. Let's go to Trump. this is uh trump asked if we should designate antiven other radical groups to domestic terror uh yeah

they literally call for the violent overthrow the government call for violence to shut people speech down they've killed a bunch of people they're literally funded by soros they're engaged in they've been killing a bunch of people in europe now now now 10 members of afti that were in the lead have died in the last two weeks it was four five six seven eight now it's ten magically died and just attacked a bunch of them over there violently

it's an international terror group yeah absolutely and 40% of them on average are crazy trainees great I mean this is just nuts so there have been seven AFD candidates that have died in the run up to their election but that isn't as statistically crazy as it might sound nine non-aFD member candidates have also died and a lot of this is because this number includes all the local elections and really minor races sure There were over 20,000 candidates in the elections that these candidates came from, and maybe that number of deaths seems a little bit high, but on its own, it doesn't prove anything, other than it looks high.

Yeah. The German police have said that there's no sign of foul play in these deaths, but I guess Alex knows better and why waste an opportunity to pretend that you're a victim? Sure. Incidentally, just today, as we're recording, Trump did decide to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, which is to say that he put a message out on social media. Okay. The king has made his decree.

All right. Quote, I'm pleased to inform our many USA patriots that I'm designating Antifa, a sick, dangerous, radical left disaster as a major terrorist organization. It was all caps after Antifa. Well, that's nice of him. Yeah. This just makes me think of all the fun we had with Alex and the Mayak report and how scandalous it was that the government could even acknowledge that some people within the militia movement were domestic terrorists. How, like, that was the bread and butter of this show. Yep.

None of that was sincere. No. Nope. Nope. Nope. Not even a little bit. Nope. But at least everybody wasted a lot of their time arguing with it.

Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy to me because I think, like, there's a good faith reason to possibly have humored some of Alex's stuff. Sure. But, like, I think that. because a lot of people weren't paying attention, maybe people took it too seriously. And it festered into a lot of this that we see now.

I mean, it's better to argue about something that's fictional than to deal with the truth. That's kind of, that's America's epitaph right there. It's better to argue about something fictional. And you know, there's another deeply ironic thing, and that is that like Alex's whole thing, his whole like FEMA camps and like, oh they're going to lock us up all us patriots and all this that was based on rex 84 right which was a

plan to lock up leftists and and and communists subversives yeah so like Alex now wants to do rex 84 yeah which was the plan that he pretended was a target right on him yeah anyway he should go to hell yeah yeah yep yep yep yep you better believe it but one thing you can't take away from him is that he's always right my north star is the truth what I really believe is what I say and that's why I'm right 98% of the time more than anybody else out there that's what you was a trans cult that did this we have questions it looks like there might have been a group piggybacking on it I'll get to that later now that we've got time to ferret into it there is evidence there was a shooter behind him at about 70 yards

we'll be getting to that later and when the globalists and different groups are in the discords they can piggyback with their wind-up assassins like crooks in Pennsylvania so I go where the facts lead me

and where my deep knowledge of all the different facets go I'm the guy that taught the public about false flags when I first talked about false flags 31 years ago no one I mean 1% might have known about them but now people think everything is a pure staged event well you can also hype up these movements and basically take mk ultra style control from beta to through the culture through the drugs through

the media through the discord channels and create basically the same thing but then have plausible deniability vindicated again has a bunch of word salad but uh like i think that Alex is right about one thing and he's also wrong about it at the same time but that like he taught everyone about false flags yeah but it's not teaching no he exploited the idea that things could be a false flag right and then made everyone think that everything was a false flag right until proven otherwise and now he's snake bitten he's he has he has cultivated and uh uh like an audience that's like well, everything's fucking fake. Yeah.

And he doesn't want that mentality applied to things that he wants to be real. Right. He doesn't want this Charlie Kirk assassination to be viewed through the same prism that he would treat something like Sandy Hook or Boston bombing. Because that gets in the way. Yeah. Now it's not helpful. No. No, it is interesting because what he's taught some people.

is how to use a tool to get money, right? And other people, he's taught how to turn anything that they're afraid of or don't want into a fictional story, right? And the double side of that is he's taught some people how to make money with this tool. And he's taught other people to accept this as an explanation or a useful way to look at the world.

So these people can make money off that. He's created a customer base, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. He built a product, and then now everybody uses the product, and a lot of other people make the product better than him. And he's like, well, but I was the one who built it. That's it. He is...

Capitalism, man. Yeah, he's the victim of, like, his own shit. Yep. He created something that is a shortcut and is empty calories, basically. Yeah. And someone's come along with a better version. That's exactly right. Yep.

And he should understand that. I mean, it seems like the, it seems like if you're super into capitalism, the one thing you should understand is when you're getting a capitalism done to you and when you're doing a capitalism, right? Yeah. And I don't know what amount of like sort of rear guard action Alex is going to be able to do to retain any kind of relevance. I don't know.

Shit moves on. We all die. That's life, man. Yep. And when you die, people will try. to make a ton of money off you by wearing your skin and doing college tours. Yep, yep. That's great.

Yep. Good stuff. Oh, God. It's going to be 2016 all over again with these shitheads trying to steal Charlie's thunder. Oh, God. We're still going to keep going. Free speech tours! Still going to keep going.

And then there's going to be a whole new wave of people being canceled and having specials called triggered and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Great. I would really, I tire of people saying, well, how about let's run it back? Because I feel like that's my, that's what we're getting a lot.

Yeah. Get a lot of that. Let's run it back is fun for a nostalgia, like, let's get the dream team back together and have to shoot some hoops. Absolutely. For a commercial or something. Michael and Scotty, get them all up there with maybe even Larry Bird. Fuck it. Charles Barkley's like, can I play?

Absolutely not. We all have a great time. this isn't this isn't what we want to run back this is no good sucks shit nope so uh we got one last clip here and it's alex just saying that uh you know like hey some if there's any racist violence it's fake yeah anything that happens that's inconvenient for me is is going to be fake great and then destiny says oh what if he gets killed well somebody might kill him and blame us that's what we're talking about here is the incoming false flags of the final ingredient remember i told you all this when trump got back in

They pre-programmed it. Now they're going to engage in terror attacks on traditionally black colleges, black churches. That's what they've already programmed and illegal alien demonstrations and say it was done for Charlie Kirk. And now they've evacuated the black colleges saying, oh, Charlie Kirk's a white supremacist. Not true. The white supremac called and made threats and bomb threats because of Charlie Kirk. So when there's an attack, everybody's pre-programmed. Oh, the school told us that Charlie Kirk supporters were coming to kill us.

See how the frame job is already done. just like they put out all these fake quotes notice never video just an image of charlie saying black women are stupid and should never be able to have a job said nothing even one percent close doesn't matter i mean you know the NGOs you know antifur the leftists called in the death threats and bomb threats of the black colleges and it's happening at the churches and then they say we got to evacuate the whites are coming to kill us ahead of the attacks it's just that simple it's that simple so i there's an element of this that i think is really weird that is like i feel like alex is taking agency away from racists you know like i think like if i were someone

who is a big old racist yeah and maybe i had some violent tendencies sure i would see charlie and I'd be like, there's a racist. Yep. And I might be mad that someone killed him. I think that there's a chance that I would want to commit some kind of violent act and retribution. It's generally how it works. Alex is taking away their ability to do that. Yep.

It's just not even a possibility that some racist would be like, hey, they killed a big racist. I'm mad now. Yeah, which is one of those things where it is like on, it's so many, it's the two levels of conversation that are being had. Right? There's the, this is how you make money. And then there's the, believe this shit and give us money, kind of that. In the same way, there's, there's this like, I'm running cover for you so you can do this stuff. But unfortunately, because of the way we talk to each other, you only hear people don't do this stuff. You know?

Like, if I, if I explain to you clearly why saying that you won't do it is allowing you to do it. Yeah. Then I would also have to explain all the other. other shit that I don't explain to you. That gets in the way of me being able to, like, get this message across to the real people that it's for, which is the people who are going to continue giving me money, who might stop if they recognize that, like, a big part of what I'm doing is running cover for someone to go attack a black church or something.

It's a big tent of people I'm lying to. None of whom understand each other and all of whom are participating in the own lie that they believe in. Yeah. Yeah. This messaging is laser-focused on people who would never do anything like that, but would start to maybe question what they're mixed up in and what their ideology is really about if they, you know, saw things like Patriot Front and Nazis marching saying...

Are we the good guys if we have shock troops who murder people indiscriminately just because they belong to some group that's kind of like somebody? Don't worry about it. It's fake. There we go. That makes way more sense. So we are the good guy. Yeah.

Yeah. We're so good that people have to pretend to be us and do bad things in order to make you think that you're bad. They're making you question yourself by playing dress up. You know what? It would require serious motivated reasoning to believe any of that, which is great for me because I have all of that motivation. I believe it all, baby. I mean, if you can sell people this, like, blue drink, then I think that you can probably go ahead and get people to believe everything's fake.

Ain't that the truth? And then complain about how everyone thinks that everything's fake. A bunch of assholes. Oh, burn it. Anyway, this is a little bit of a shorter episode, but I got family in town. It's family. Family stuff. You know, I got time to spend with family, and we'll be back next week with, you want some longer bullshit?

Yeah, I'm sure we'll have some more long bullshit. Yeah. Yep. But, oh. One last thing. Yeah, yeah. We do have, so for everybody, we have not yet sold out the December 18th show, so there are still tickets. So if you are holding back out of courtesy to allow other people to snatch some tickets up, you can, if you want to come to both, open season.

Yep. And it will sell out. So just do it whenever you got time. There will be a link in the description. You bet. So yeah. Anyway, we'll be back with something's so fun. A different universe.

We'll be building a time portal and will be traveling to a different section of the world. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to sit down and I'm going to be like, let's find something fun. I think that's a great idea. I will fail. Yeah. But we'll be back. Until then, we have a website.

Indeed, we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo. I'm DZX. Clark. I am the mysterious professor. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.