Knowledge Fight - #1083: Tucker, The Man And His Civil War

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan discuss Tucker's dire warning that a civil war could be fast approaching, and spend a little time on Trump's hangout session with the JV squad of the idiot media.

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Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up?

What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today is I have continued to watch McGiver. All right. And we are now through episode three. Okay. Add one to the kiss count. All right. Okay. We're now at four. Four total over three episodes. That's still a fairly good average.

Yeah. No, that's good work if you can get it. Yeah. Um, so the episode opens with McGiver having to go get back a stolen horse. Okay. From a guy. Okay. A guy stole the horse. Real horse or a small horse?

Big, uh, big white horse. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Rightable horse. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. So he sneaks in, sneaks into this guy's camp. Sure. Rides the horse away.

Uh-huh. Helicopter shows up. Naturally. With a hook dangling. Oh. He hooks the horse on. Wrong. And he and the horse get lifted.

Go ahead. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. What? Amazing. I don't know how they did it. That's crazy. Must have it's so expensive.

They did that in the dark night with a plane, I think, yeah. But this is 85 with a horse. Yeah, this is solid. This is solid stuff. So then the most of the episode is about he has to get a watch. True. From a spy in Budapest. And then this Romani girl steals the watch and the two of them have a great adventure.

What's his job again? What is it? What about him specifically prepares him for the, the job of stealing said horse and then riding it in helicopter. We're three episodes in. Right. He's not that old. Right.

So, like, he can't have that much experience. He seems very well traveled across all levels of competence. The only thing that I can get is, like, he's the cleverest guy in the world. Right. Because in the first episode, he has, like, a little satchel bag. Yeah. And someone's like, hey, what do you take in with you? What kind of tools?

And he's like, no, this is for what I find along the way. Oh, my God. So he's like a good improviser. Right. And I think that's it. What if your superpower was like, I'll figure it out in the end? You know, like no matter what your conflict is, my superpower is I'll just figure it out in the end and I'll be fine. My superpower is resolution.

Yeah, it just, it always goes my way. And not in a huge way. Like, I just win. I just got the horse and I rode away. I didn't like take over your country. Yeah. And I'm not going to kiss them on every episode. but it's going to be average out more than one.

Whatever I need to. What I like about this is that I could absolutely look up what his job is. Sure. And I refuse to. No, why would you? What job description could possibly compile his entire job, you know? Voluntary spy. Just like he can choose whatever he wants to do here and there.

Like a volunteer firefighter. Right. Yeah, yeah. He's like a public service. But going over to Budapest to get this watch. Come on. Um, so anyway, what's your, uh, what's your bright spot? Uh, my bright spot is that is my wife's 40th birthday today.

I, happy birthday. Could not be, uh, I don't know. I just love her so much. I'm documented as a, as a wife guy. That's true. For sure, heavily documented. You've chilled out a little bit as of late, uh, but yeah, definitely. No, absolutely.

Um, she makes it all happen. She's, she's incredible. And she listens to this. So, of course, she's going to be disappointed in whether or not I have a, uh, done a good job of telling her how much I love her. Do you have a song you'd like to sing? Not particularly. No, you don't have a song on your heart?

No, not really. That's really going to disappoint her. I was thinking about Rainbow Connection, but I don't even know if we've ever sung that song together. You and I or you and her? No. Because I'm not harmonizing. No, no, I don't think that one's going to work.

No. Well, you know, look, I have more of a history with karaoke than you, so I shouldn't have put you on the spot like that. It's all good. Do you guys have, I know you took, a trip. But other than that, you got anything...

Oh, I've done... I've done a bunch of nice things. It's her birthday week. I've done a bunch of nice things. I'm excited for this one. She's going to come home to a clean... We're married. So my gift is, I've cleaned the place really well.

Right. So, but also, you know, we did trips and all that. You know, right? We did the real gift stuff. So it's kind of just on the day. It's about surprise. Surprise. It's clean.

It's clean. Yeah. You didn't see that shit coming, did you? It's clean. And there's a beanbag fort. Suddenly, my gift is very aggressive. Hey, listen up, asshole. I clean the place.

Happy birthday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You wish it was your birthday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's awesome. Yeah, it's great. I'm happy for you both and happy birthday to her. Yeah, absolutely.

So today we got an episode to go over. Yeah. And we're going to be a little bit windy, a little bit around. We're going to eventually get to some Tucker Carlson. Okay. But we have to take a detour in order to get there. All right. And we'll go down that path and just,

moment. But first, let's take a second to say hello to some new wongs. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Nisia Wisewood, the first and best goblin Cherugian of the world of Galorian has ever seen. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Nope. Next, hello. My name is

Eli, and I just became a veterinarian. Been a patron for a while. Love the work. Proud to sport y'all, especially Celine. Damn good cat in my now professional opinion. Thank you so much. You're now, a policy walk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. And from Smiley Bill in Seattle to Chicago, Chris, thank you for telling me about these guys.

See you in the arcade. Thank you so much. You're now, a policy wonk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to Snacker Bob.

You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark, binks, has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser.

little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you very much. So, Jordan, I don't know how much of this you're aware of. But on October 8th, the Trump administration held a absurd press conference, where Trump and many of his cabinet members and the head of his FBI sat around the table

with a cadre of right-wing media dipshits, and they talked about how evil and scary Antifa is. Sure. Most of the people there have some association with Turning Point USA, which makes sense because the Trump administration has made it clear that they intend to capitalize on Charlie Kirk's murder and use him as a symbol that allows them to crack down on the left and all political enemies. Sure, delightful. This meeting was an interesting mix of Trump dear leader worship and political theater

meant to preemptively justify the horrible shit that the government is planning to do. It was one of the most naked and transparent displays of authoritarian posturing I've ever seen in my life, and it's degrading to the country that it happened and that our president was involved in it. Probably the most famous person in the crew was noted PizzaGate Cryer Jack Posobic and if I were Alex, I would be furious that I wasn't invited. And not only that, he didn't even get a shout out. Oh. And that was particularly glaring because former Infowars employee Savannah Hernandez was on the panel, as was the host of InfoWars Sunday briefing, Nick Sortor. Nick Sortor was arrested the other day because he got into a fight

with some protesters in Portland. Sure. He was out there pretending to be a journalist and things got a little bit out of hand. The DA ended up dropping the charges, but he's been fairly successful in obscuring the fact that he works for InfoWars in service of presenting himself

as a cool, unbiased media guy that the Trump administration can use. Cannot believe you can do that, but well, apparently you can. It's remarkable. It is an achievement. So Nick Sortor has told the story that he got assaulted while he was trying to save a flag

that was being burned. Oh my God. God, won't somebody think of the flags. And this kind of definitionally makes him not a journalist. Either he was there as an activist or he has so little restraint that he can be baited into an altercation by a flag being burned, which makes him a shitty and uncommitted journalist and he doesn't be out there. He doesn't have the discipline. There's some really strong indications here of like who's in and who's out with Trump's media regime. And Alex should be recognizing that he's not wanted.

He's way too much of a liability, and that room was filled with people who have either no power at all, or they understand the importance of being a functionary. Pesobic is a perfect example of what Trump wants, because he has a clean-cut appearance, he knows how to say flagrantly racist things in plausibly deniable ways, and he has no real ambitions past doing what he's already doing. He exists to create bullshit content that the administration can use to justify their illegal actions. He doesn't think that God chose him as a kid to fight the devil. Like, he know, this is, there's no career advancement that he needs. Yeah. You can keep him here forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I watched this roundtable and I got the feeling that we should probably talk about it a little bit. Sure. And so I apologize in advance for doing this to you. But you're going to hear a little bit of Trump and some dicks talking about antiphon. It's not even real. Uh. They, it's made up. I would say that a good third of this is probably them.

profusely thanking Trump for acknowledging that it's real. Where are the meetings? Where are the meetings? Look, they don't have an LLC. Okay, fine. Sure. Fine. No, no, no. They're real.

And the only people who can find them inexplicably are not the people who would join them. In fact, the only people who can find this organization are the people who ate them. What a strange organization. Yeah, the people who make weird videos on YouTube about them with scary thumbnails. So weird. Yeah. But also they do violence. Tons of violence.

And so Trump talks a little bit about that. Okay. Two weeks ago, radical left terrorist in Dallas conducted a sniper attack on a local ice facility, killing two people and leaving behind a note that read, hopefully this will give ice agents some real terror. That's bad. This attack came the very same month that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a far-left extremist who inscribe the words, hey, fascist, catch.

meaning catch the bullet onto the bullet shelf itself. The epidemic of left-wing violence and Antifa-inspired terror has been escalating for nearly a decade. The Dallas sniper very well may have had some anti-ice motives to his shooting, but there's no indication that he had any accomplices. The guy who shot Charlie Kirk allegedly wrote what he did on his bullet casing as a joke, and it was a reference to Helldivers too. So neither of these guys seem like they have anything to do

with organized left-wing politics in any form. One of them killed themselves and the other was arrested. So while it's unfortunate that they were able to carry out their crimes, I'm not sure what else law enforcement could have done in these cases, like particularly the right-wing would want them to do. I mean, at what point, what even are we talking about now when they are talking about left-wing? It's not like, oh, the people who are for UBI. That's not what we're dealing with.

It's just whatever they choose is left wing on the day. Yeah, it's those who do not agree with Trump. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, there wasn't any funding or infrastructure in these shootings that could have been broken up with advance, like, notice or anything. They were just sad dudes with guns. Yeah. Like, other than, like, crazy levels of spying.

Yeah. That I would assume that these civil liberties concerned people wouldn't want the government doing. Sure. I don't know what else they were supposed to do. other than maybe restrict access to guns, which they also don't want to do. I mean, it's just going to be the FBI doing what they did to Muslims immediately after 9-11, where they're just going to convince people who otherwise would never do this to do it and then arrest them before they can't.

Yeah, that might happen. Yeah. Weird. So these protests, they were well-funded. All these protests that are going on that Trump doesn't like. They've used armed gangs to assault local police. in cities nationwide, and they have attacked journalists reporting on their crimes. So the journalists that report on their crimes, don't worry, you're very safe.

I hope that's not going to turn you around, but they have been very threatening to people, but we're going to be very threatening to them, far more threatening to them than they ever were with us, and that includes the people that fund them. Probably some of the people I know, some of the people I dine with, but if they do, they're in deep trouble, so we're going to be looking very strongly at the people. Wait, what? Are funding these operas. How is that allowed to just be said?

They're all made out of a beautiful, beautiful paper, beautiful, nice, stiff, very expensive paper with beautiful wood handles all the same, all the same color. They come from very expensive printing machines. These are not people that write out their signs in a basement that believe in something. These are paid anarchists. Look, they're nice wooden handles all the same. You know, I think... Print shop.

I think people misunderstand why. I think they think that I don't like hearing Trump talk. The problem is I don't like hearing Trump being allowed to talk by adults. Right, right. That's pathetic. Yeah. And you can see it in some of the faces if you watch the video. Like when Marco Rubio shows up, he doesn't look very happy.

Yeah. Even Stephen Miller's looking down for a fair amount of it. You should be. You should be. All of you are just pathetic. And when anyone else is talking, Trump is desperately trying to stay away. Of course. I mean, God.

He's very bored by what a lot of these people are saying. At the very least, I'll be murdered before I ever have to behave like this. Signs are so nice. Right? At the very least, when I die, I'll just be like, well, at least I didn't sit in a room and allow that man to talk to me. Yeah. I think, I mean, I know that I've been to protests before where, you know, someone might bring a stack of signs. Sure.

And then people can just grab one. Nope. Does that mean everybody who's got one of those signs in their hand as a paid protester? I mean, let's get, whatever, whatever. Somebody hit this man with a sign. Yeah. So Nick Sortor is there. All right.

He's in the room because he got arrested. And Trump is, he's got some buzz. So Trump's trying to feed off that buzz. That's wild. Why? What is wrong with the people? The president. Yeah.

Oh, fuck me. And it leads Trump to say something. that I think is really bad. Only days ago, Nick Sauter was assaulted in Portland by a flag burning mob, and we've made it one year penalty for inciting riots. We took the freedom of speech away because that's been through the courts and they have freedom of speech. What has happened is when they burn a flag, it agitates and irritates crowds.

They've never seen anything like it on both sides. You end up with riots, so we're going on that basis. We're looking at it from not from the freedom of speech, which I always felt strongly about, but never passed the courts. This is what they do is they incite when you burn an American flag, you incite tremendous violence. We have many examples of it. Oh, so many, so many. Just so no one's unclear about this, that clip is not Trump fumbling around or miss speaking. He's expressing a clear belief that he holds and is consistent with his actions and his personality.

The courts have consistently ruled that burning a flag is constitutionally protected free speech, but Trump wants to punish people for it. He also has a fan base of people whose brands rely on pretending that they care about free speech, so he can't just say, I'm limiting your speech. Right. He's very clearly saying that in order to ban something that the Constitution considers a protected right, he decided he can just ban whatever he wants that might incite a riot based on his definition. Yep.

People get really worked up when you burn a flag, so he's, can't allow that what if people get worked up on both sides oh so many so i'm actually being very kind to both sides like you've never seen before these people getting worked up wow if any of these people in that room had half a principle they would recognize that their entire business model is built on incitement and if any government claims the power to ban things that they think could incite people they better pray they never lose an election again events like the unite the right rally that It's been predicated entirely on incitement. But they were allowed to do those things because of the First Amendment.

Trump is now saying that free speech isn't free. And all these dipshit free speech absolutists are nodding along with him and thanking him for it. Yep. A bunch of fucking clowns. Yeah. Yeah. You know, but at least, at least you can rest assured that while the rules have been suspended and are meaningless now, when they do no longer have power and it is.

is the Democrats and the like who have returned to power. They will reinstate the rules and those rules will keep them from holding any of those people accountable for it. It'll be very conciliatory. Yeah, they'll be really nice about it. They'd be, it'd be terrible to violate the freedom of speech rules to, you know, violate their freedom of speech. Right.

Yeah. So what's you going to do? Yeah. Hey, past is a past. So, uh, Pam Bondi noted Epstein cover upper. Yep. Oh, yeah, which were just, which they're all there. Yeah.

And this, the Antifa's a problem. conversation Sortor Psobic Right And they know All these people Are just like

Hey It's cool We're sitting at this table With the head of the FBI And the head of the DOJ Who we are We believe to be covering up The Epstein files

Yeah yeah yeah A conspiracy of billionaire pedophiles Who are running the government We now work for Hey Yeah You know a PR stunt You gotta take it

Wherever it No I get it They got buzz So she has some surprises about Antifa that she's found. Sure. And that leads Trump into a pretty important conversation, I think. Under the Trump administration, we're going after Antifa criminals and all who fund and support their campaigns are in serious trouble. And we have a lot of records already, a lot of surprises, a lot of bad surprises.

It's people that you would never think. I want to thank Attorney General Pam Bondi, who, by the way, yesterday was incredible in Congress. It was amazing, and she just did it from the heart, and the brain, because she's very smart in all fairness, but she did it from the heart, and she did it. Everybody was talking about it. She exposed some of these fake senators, these terrible senators, people like Blumenthal that had a phony war record. For 20 years, he talked about it, what a hero he was, and it turned out he never went to Vietnam. For 20 years, he talked about being a hero in Vietnam. Then it was exposed when he said what platoon he was with. with and it was exposed that somebody was watching from that particular platoon, they said he was never with us. And then he went out and he cried and he was ready to drop out of the election and disgraceful. And then he looks at people like Pam and he starts criticizing her and she's a patriot. Wrap it up. They ought to do something with that. You know, we have a young congressman that's right now in jail for lying about where he went to college and other things.

It was, you know, frankly not good. It was pretty bad. But it was nothing compared to Blumenthal. I mean, what Blumenthal did. He was for 20 years, a hero. A great war hero. And then he sits back and, you know, sanctimony is kind of a guy. Looks down, how dare you do this to the American public, you know?

What a fake. So on a number of occasions, Senator Blumenthal referred to his service as being, quote, in Vietnam, when he should have said that he served, quote, during Vietnam. Sure. Because he was in the reserves and he didn't go overseas. Great. It's a distinction that military folk probably take very seriously, and it's entirely possible that he was trying to fudge his record when he made those misstatements. It could be an honest misspeaking or it could be some kind of thing, but he's owned up to it, and Trump's making more of a meal of this than he needs to.

On the flip side, that Congress member that Trump was referring to who's in jail is George Santos, and he didn't just lie about where he went to college. He's only the third person who's been expelled from Congress since the Civil War. he pled guilty to charges of wire fraud and aggravated identity theft and most of them have committed both of those crimes yes most of congress has committed both of those crimes they're just not that dumb not aggravated identity theft that's fair that's fair just regular identity theft he also lied about graduating from college so that is true but he's in jail right now because of the crimes he confessed to committing as part of his campaign for congress right so yeah i don't know trump seems to be minimizing that one a little bit i mean boy but you're You got to give him credit for being, like, succinct. I just don't get it. I genuinely do not get it because I could not be in that room without, like, shooting myself in the face. Like, it is ridiculous.

The moment he went on to, what are you talking about? What are you talking about? You're the president of the United God damn states. Yeah. You're the president of the United God damn. I'm not at a fucking karaoke bar with the oldest, saddest, piece of shit in the world telling me a story about how great he is and how bad this other guy is exactly exactly and yet somehow i am seated in the situation room where fucking osama bin laden was

assassinated in fucking oh god i hate these people it's i hate them it's pretty amazing um yeah that uh that people just they just sit there i think that the reason has to be fear yeah or opportunity like they just know this guy's a fucking idiot And, like, as long as I make a deal that he thinks looks good, I can get whatever I want out of him. Yep. And I, ugh. I just have to debase myself to where I am less than human. Yeah.

It's pretty embarrassing. I mean, like, just the saying that we got rid of the free speech earlier, I think his cabinet should have stormed out. At the, no, no, no. That is the president saying out loud he is denying the Constitution. You should have invoked a fucking amendment to immediately get rid of him. He should be in jail for being the thing he is. Yeah, he's supposed to be in charge of the government, and he is clearly opposed to it. He's against the thing he is.

That's tough. That is tough. So he put Christy Gnome in charge of the Homeland Security. Sure. Right? Sure. And so she's there. Okay.

And she was off in Portland recently. Sure. I was in Portland yesterday. had the chance to visit with the governor of Oregon and also the mayor. They're in town and they are absolutely covering up the terrorism that is hitting their streets. While you talked about some of the stories of our ICE agents, our Border Patrol agents, how they have been attacked, how they have been shot at, injured, the damage that they've done, these leaders and these local cities, along with Pritzker and Johnson, ignore what's going on or, sir, they're helping

Antifa cover it up. We have... how did dozens of individuals that are Antifa members or affiliated with them and i want to thank our attorney general for prosecuting them and making sure they never see the light of day again they have been so bold and making sure we're bringing those individuals to justice one of the individuals we arrested recently in portland uh was the girlfriend of one of the founders of antifa and that we are hoping that as we go after her interview her and prosecute her we will get more and more information about the network and how we can root them out uh and eliminate them from the existence of American

society. So the head of the Department of Homeland Security is on camera, sitting next to the president, accusing the governor of Oregon and the mayor of Portland of covering up or being complicit in terrorist subversion. We're at a point where this rhetoric is designed to just be shit

talk and it means nothing, or people like Christy Noem are saying very clearly that they intend to enact regime change on U.S. cities and states. There's no other, yeah. That's what they're saying. They said that exactly. Exactly about the Taliban. Yes.

That is what the Taliban is. Yeah. Great job on arresting the girlfriend of the founder of Antifa, though. I mean... She's got to be like 120 by now. What are you talking about the founder of... We extradited her from Italy. We got the founder of the idea of not being fascist.

The first person who didn't like Mussolini. We got him. The one person who was like, hey, hey, wait a second. God damn. We got them. Christy Noem is gracious, and she thanks the journalists that are there for covering this stuff. What are they in the back room? What?

The journalists, are they somewhere else? Are they watching from a hidden camera? Here's a remarkable dynamic that definitely does come up way more than once. Yeah. They're sitting at a U-shaped table, right? And so, like, you know, Trump is at the king's seat. Right, right, right, like his cabinet. Right.

And then on the wings, you have right-wing shithead journalists. Oh, my God. Right. So you got Pesobic over on one side and some other ding-dongs. Right. And then you got like, I don't know. So we're doing like a Game of Thrones table with attendees. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. So you have the right-wing media folks here on the wings. Right. And then there's implied, you don't see them. Uh-huh. But there's the real media watching them. Right, right, right.

And so on a number of occasions, there are direct insults at the, the media who's covering it. Right. Talking about how they're not as good as Pesobic. Right. Right. Okay. All right.

Okay. Here we go. It feels out of control. Yet what year are we in yet? Are we still, are we in like year four of his presidency, year 12? This can't be year one. Mm-mm. No.

It can't still be year one. Nope. So, you know, they've done a great service. Sure. Talking about Antifa. Great. who are just as bad as ISIS. Obviously.

I want to thank the new journalists here today for telling their stories and for being able and willing to go to the streets and to cover what's happening here in America. Many times the legacy media has looked the other way. Refused to tell the stories. The networks have not really focused on what this is and what damage it is doing to our country and how this network of Antifa is just as sophisticated as MS-13,

as TDA, as ISIS, as Hezbollah, as Hamas, as all of them. They are just as dangerous. They have an agenda to destroy us, just like the other terrorists we've dealt with for many, many years. And today is the day that we have a president that won't tolerate it, and we'll stand up and fight for the American people. So thank you for being here, for being so bold, and for standing in the gap at such a time as this. It will matter. It will make a difference in your life will be one of significance because of what you've done today. So with that, God bless you. And thank you, Mr. President. Thank you very much. Thank you.

That's the head of Homeland Security. You know, here's, okay, all right, I bet, I bet Colin Powell, right, UN, hey, they totally got weapons of mass destruction. He was lying, right? He did it. He did the lying, and then later on in life, he was like, man, lying's probably wrong. And so he did that. But at the very least, he was actually going for somebody that you could consider an enemy theoretically. within the understanding that they had of global politics at the time, right?

It wasn't like Dave who runs the fucking Zbarros down the street. Well, Sabaros sucks, to be fair. I mean, no, no, no, I'm not saying anything about Smarrow's. I'm just saying that Colin Powell wasn't like, we got to get Dave. That guy's a real piece of shit. We got a drone strike him. It's a bad slice. We need an axis of the willing to go.

after it, Dave, that fucking asshole. We got some allies in El Salvador who are going to come up and invade the Samarro. What business, what, okay, there is organized as MS-13 or like Hamas or whatever. What businesses are the Antifa fronts to finance their, their weapons gathering operations, their, they're clear, how are they getting support from just militarily? Every bookstore. Right. That uses like paper receipts, you know, like it doesn't have a computer system.

Right. Used bookstores, bead shops. Where are the arms dealers that work with Antiva? Where's our fucking merchant of death on Alex's fucking show? Is he also selling arms to the Antifa people right now? It's all Soros. Who cares? These people don't.

This is in the real world that they're making up Antifa. And the director of Homeland Security is saying this shit. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. They're just as dangerous as fucking ISIS. Yeah, yeah, they're fucking insane.

These people are actually insane. Yeah. Yeah. So Nick Sortor is there in the house. He got arrested and he is cool now. Of course. So he's there and some people might, you know, we're a little ways into the episode and people might be thinking like, is there connective tissue to Alex?

Sure. And Nick, Nick serves that purpose. Maybe we'll start over here. Would any of you like to say something, feel free? You can say it in front of a fine group of people, also journalists and reporters. Do you want to start? Sure. Go ahead.

Absolutely. President Trump, members of the cabinet, really appreciate you guys bringing this together. And the fact that we are here today, and on such short notice, shows how serious you guys are taking this issue of trans-terrorists and the, frankly, the cities and police departments that are cooperating with Antifa, such as Portland. I mean, the Portland politicians are literally willing to sacrifice their own citizens just to appease these Antifa terrorists. It's sickening. Nick Sortor kicks things off, and it's interesting how off message his jab at trans terrorists feels in this room. All of the people in it hate trans people, and they're active participants in trying to create a hysteria around the issue.

Of course. But that's not what today is about. Right. This is about Antifa. Focus. And the shit heads who get to sit at this table, they know that it's not time to overcomplicate things. It's basically a situation where everyone at that table knows that they have a win on their hands. And the power they'll help Trump seize through this would be wielded against the LGBTQ community.

But that Trump doesn't like to get into that stuff. Not when he's there. He likes to have public face of tolerance. You know, like he hugged that pride flag that one time. And he loves gay people and stuff. Why not? The anti-trans hysteria is for the audience on Twitter, but they're sitting with the president right now, and they're supposed to be playing for an audience of one.

The only subjects you should be talking about are how Antifa is bad and hates Trump and how Trump has saved America. That's it. That's all we're talking about here. A bigger point about Nick Sortor is how huge a shift this represents for Alex. After the Boston bombing, he had his reporter Dan Badondi scream infowars.com at a press conference in order to push ratings. Now, a guy who hosts a show on Alex's network, a level of responsibility he never would

have given to Badondi, is sitting at a propaganda festival with the president, and there's no info wars plug. Later, everyone's even talking about good and bad media, and no one says anything about Alex. In the past, Alex commanded respect in this space, and his ability to have an underling disrupt a press conference where public officials were trying to reassure and inform a terrified public reinforced that. But now he has multiple people he's employed or currently employs sitting at this table and they understand that they wouldn't be sitting there if they openly touted their association

with Alex. Nick Sortor has value as a scrappy young journalist who just loves the flag, but that value diminishes really fast if people realize he's a backbencher at Info Wars. Yeah. Like, they know. Yeah. Alex is a hindrance to their brand as opposed to the thing that they're like, Like, if I was a car, baby.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you look back on change, right? Sometimes it's so confusing. And then you kind of like work back and see like, oh, well, this led to this and this led to this and this led to this. And you can kind of untangle things. I don't think this is untangleable.

I think this is inexplicable in all ways. And every time you go to like, oh, well. when this thing happened, it caused this other domino to fall. You would look at that and you go, that other domino only falls 0.015% of the time. There's no way that domino fell. That's exactly the domino that fell. And so on and so on and so on.

And I think that this is a glimpse of like the domino's falling. Yeah. Looking at this press conference is like, how? What? Yeah. Where? When did it?

Nick soortor is here? Nick soortor. What the fuck? Even for the thing that he did, he shouldn't. be there? No. No. Right?

No. Probably wouldn't be in a week. Right? He'll be gone. Yeah. So anyway, Nick Sortor is there because he got arrested. Crushing it. And he's cool.

Okay. And he says something a little inconvenient. I believe one of the ones that I did a ride along with Secretary Nome yesterday, President Trump, and there was a pedophile that had come into the country five times over the past seven years. Seven years. And apparently under the Biden regime that was just allowed to. happen. That was fine. No problem. It's concerning to me that you're seeing the Portland

Police Department as well as the governor of Oregon and the mayor, of course, coming out and running defense for pedophiles that have entered the country illegally five times. It's crazy. I'm glad it's taking a front row seat in the media, and they're being forced to talk about it in reality because, you know, we're the ones that were on the ground. We're the ones that are actually reporting what's going on, and, you know, much of the legacy media has been either ignoring it or covering for Antifa for years now. Things feel very weird in the room when Nick Sortor says this, because the elephant in there with them is that Pam Bondi and Cash Patel are both now involved in the Epstein cover-up, and Trump said the people who still care about that are

stupid. Then the whole satanic panic media ecosystem just decided to accept that and move on. Nick is really showing his inexperience here because he said that this guy who got arrested he'd been deported five times in the last seven years seven years ago trump was president yeah it doesn't really matter what the truth of this story is nick needs to trim it up to be the last four years yep this is sloppy propaganda work whereas messaging is off and he he doesn't seem to know how to tie a bow on something yeah it just he looks he looks bad no he's not he's not this is this is the show yeah this is the show he's not ready for the show no this dude is mine league at best.

And when you watch Pesobic, you really see the difference. Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, he is no good. There's just the difference between a pro and a minor leaguer. That's just how it works. Yeah. That's the game.

And one of, a minor leaguer might, uh, want to, uh, in, in terms of seeing the king. Yeah. You might want to bring a gift. Sure. Absolutely. Always wise. Right. Yeah.

Except in this case. Oh, no. Because, uh, uh, uh, Nick tries to give Trump the flag that he saved. Oh my God. This is the wrong move. Thank you guys so much for taking this seriously. And President Trump, you mentioned that flag. So remember, you put out a truth right after I took this flag from that man that was burning it in the street.

Do you know who he is? Oh, yeah, I know exactly who it is. So why don't you give it to Pam? Give it to the Attorney General and let's start prosecutions. I actually have a second flag that he tried to burn as well. So I have two of them from the same guy. So what happened when that flag started burning, everyone went crazy. And that's when it started, when they started burning the flag.

So thank you. If you could give the information, it would be great. Absolutely. And at least that horrible night made you famous. Okay. You got blown off at the press conference. He didn't even wait until after the press conference to blow you off. I honestly think that he was expecting, like, oh, my God, this will be a symbol of the country and our fight against Antifa.

And I will cherish it with every being, every ounce of my being. Would you give that to my assistant and give her your information? You guys will be able to handle that. Hey, again, he was great. Do you want to photo op with us? Where are we? Are we doing a press conference right now? How cool is it that you got arrested?

Now you're famous. Now you're famous. I used you goodbye now. Fuck off, dork. So there's another lady there, another reporter. Great. And this just made me so sad. I was told by probably a dozen people not to tell you this.

I'm going to tell too anyway. because it's relevant to what we're talking about. I'm living proof that you can recover from TDS. I had strong Trump derangement syndrome for probably eight years. This is one of the reasons I recovered from it. And by the way, it's much better to not have TDS. I'm happier, I'm healthier, more successful. I even think I got a little more attractive after I got rid of my Trump team.

Doing bits. So I suspect that people told them. not to tell Trump this because it's very embarrassing and it makes them all sound like children. Yep. You remember how embarrassing it was when Glenn Beck cried and tried to rebrand himself with Samantha Bee? Yeah.

Think about how much worse that would have been if Obama had been there with them. Trump's in that room. That's... I just came here to lick your boots. I'm having a grand time. I used to not like you, but I turned my life around. I had a backbone, but now I'm pretty.

So this is a YouTuber named Brandy Cruz who has a show called UndeVeVe. The bio says it's, quote, political coverage for people who aren't insane, which is strange because by her own admission, until very recently, she was insane. That was her, yep. She claimed she had Trump derangement syndrome for eight years, and there's legitimately no way that that could predate Trump coming down that escalator in 2015. No one got Trump derangement syndrome from watching The Apprentice. No. If you take her telling of it seriously, she was fanatically and incorrectly angry at Trump until about a year and a half ago.

so she seems dumb as shit. In reality, she worked for a local news outlet in Seattle and quit in 2021 to try to go independent. That field, it really opened up over the pandemic, and a lot of really sloppy shitheads were making a lot of money, so it had to look like a pretty good idea. She tried to do some news coverage that looked pretty down the middle, but also had some right-wing dog whistles built into it, but no one cared. For her 100th episode, she interviewed Andrew Yang, and as it stands, there's less than a thousand views on YouTube for it. dark. Of all the people here, though, like Brandy kind of makes the most sense to me. She clearly didn't like working at this local news channel, so she went solo, but found out

the hard way that no one cares. No one's looking for straight down the middle news on YouTube. That's what we have the news for. Yeah. Anyway, I suspect she realized after a few years of nothing that there was money to be made in those Maga Hills, and she went out prospecting. Yep. Good for her.

The president sort of made a pass at her on TV, so that's kind of like success. Yeah. You know, it's like, it's like these people are discovering brand new every time. They're like, you know what? I think candy gives you cavities. I think, you know what? Here's what I think. I think we need to tell people about this.

We need to tell people that too much sugar can do damage to your teeth. People have never heard this before. And then they go out and they're like, well, I've got this very bland cereal for you. It will solve things. Wait, nobody's buying it. It's almost like people want the candy. That would work for these people if it were incorrect that candy causes candy. Exactly.

They would have to be wrong about it. Yeah, that's right. That's fair. Yeah, you're right. So these people are rank amateurs. Yep. And Jack Posobic is slumming it quite a bit being on this panel. Alongside the president.

Just to be clear, slumming it includes the. President of the United States. And a fair amount of his cabinet. Absolutely. Those people are disgusting morons. So Pesobic gets asked to say a few words. Jack, please say a few words. Mr. President, thank you so much for having us here today and holding this roundtable.

Antifa is real. Antifa has been around. Not a thing you need to say about real organizations. Almost 100 years in some instance. going back to the Weimar Republic in Germany. And it's now been just under one month since we saw a far leftist murder, Charlie Kirk, and we saw thousands upon thousands of people, other far leftists and people in positions of authority, people like nurses and pilots and doctors and HR departments,

celebrating the death and the murder of Charlie Kirk. This sickness that's out there is absolutely right. real. And Mr. President, thank you for mentioning the fact that one of the bullet casings read Hey, Fascist Catch on it. One of the other bullet casings right next to that had Bella Chow written on it. Now, Bella Chow is a song that is known in Antifa Circles as the International Anthem of Antifa. And all of us around this room that have studied Antifa, we're very familiar with these symbols. Oh, yeah. So unlike Nick Sortor and this famer former Trump derangement syndrome patient,

Jack Posobic is used to this game. It may not be every day that he's sitting at the table with the president, but he knows how to act like he's been there before and have message discipline. This isn't a sincere fact-finding mission that Trump is on where he's invited experts to inform him. This is a propaganda spectacle meant to solidify in people's minds that Antifa is the worst thing in the world, so the public will accept it when Trump does horrible shit in the name of fighting them.

That's why it's important to pay attention to how Jack is framing. this. His words are far more intentional than many of the other people at this table, and it's worth noting that he traces the lineage of Antifa to the Weimar Republic. Nazis aren't just Nazis for the fun of it, or because of a random ideology they just decided to take on, it's like, oh, this is my hat now. They think that Nazism was an appropriate response to the decadence and degeneracy of pre-Nazi Germany or the Weimar Republic. Yeah. The Nazis didn't get away with attacking the Jews for no reason. It was because the Nazis were able to blame them for eroding society to the point where something had to be done.

It's a really good strategy. This is the same game that Jack is trying to play now. These evil Antifa left-wing forces have eroded the United States to the point where something has to be done. Either we have to let Trump use the military to occupy these disobedient cities or else a Hitler-type figure might emerge and try to use the military to occupy these disobedient cities. Right. It makes sense.

As for Bella Chow, sure, that's a song that has anti-fascist. connotations, but it was also featured in Far Cry 6, and the alleged shooter is clearly a big gamer, and he said that the things they wrote on the bullets were memes. Yeah. So, fuck off, man, you know this shit. I mean, listen, do you know what nobody was, nobody was like, ah, the Taliban is real. Everybody knew they were real because you could see them. They were there, they were an actual organization with organization.

There was a guy who was like, I'm in charge of the Taliban. And then there were a bunch of guys who were like, I do this for the Taliban. Alabama, right? Yeah, you know how some, like, religions have, like, the tenets of the faith that you repeat when, you know, you're giving your communion? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how that feels. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Antifa is real. Antifa is real. All right. Thank you, everybody. It's a tenant of the Trump faith now. Yeah, it's, who, who is it? Where? It's Dave at the Zabara.

Right? Just, I mean, if you're going to oppress me, just let me know when and where I'm supposed to be being oppressed. I'll hang out. That's fine. That's generous of you. Yeah. I mean, I just don't even know where to be Antifa at.

Well, go to... Right? Over there. Over there. Exactly. Yeah. So there's a lot of ding-dongs at this event. Sure.

Some more interesting than others. Sure. And there was one guy whose voice stuck out to me because he sounds like a little kid. You don't need to be part of a super large company to be able to do just basic journalism. All you got to do is sit and record. and you'll let the story play out. And that's why they hate us. That's why in Tifa targets us.

Well, I watched a level of dishonesty that's incredible where answers are changed of, like just before the election, an answer was changed by Kamala. She gave a horrible death-defying, election-defying answer, and they took the answer out, and they replaced it with another answer that she gave five minutes later. Got him. Having to do with a different subject, but at least it wasn't election-defying. Does that tell you about Blumenthal? level of dishonesty with the media is incredible, whether it's on Antifa or many of the other groups.

You know, you're talking about Antifa, and I know that's close to your heart because that's the one that's most affecting you. But there are others that are as bad or almost as bad as Antifa having to do with different people, different sections of the world. But it's terrible. We're not going to let it go on in this country. We're not going to let it go on. And a big problem is not all of them, but some of the networks out there. and you do wonder why you really do. So this guy who's talking about being totally independent

is a 23-year-old dipshit named Nick Shirley who had a YouTube channel since he was 16. Oh, my God. At the beginning, it was mostly prank videos and a lot of him pretending to sneak into places like Jake Paul's wedding. Okay. That one had a very convincing title,

quote, sneaking into Jake Paul's wedding, parentheses, not clickbait. So you know it's not clickbait. It's not clickbait. That's nice of him for it to let us know. He also was at January 6th, but his video does seem like he's more of a YouTuber guy trying to monetize a freak show than he was interested in Trump

at all. Then in December 2021, he posted a video announcing that he'd be going away for two years because he was going on a LDS mission to Santiago Chili. Great. All of his prank videos, even the ones about going to like Post Malone's house, got under 100,000 views. But then he came back from his mission trip and started posting very political content, mostly about immigrants. sure immediately he jumped to 240,000 views on his shit he posted a video titled quote I track down illegal immigrants in New York City and he got 711,000 views great anyone who you know their job is to make YouTube prank videos they're a pretty desperate sort of character so they're going to see an opportunity where one presents itself you better believe it from this

point on all of his videos are like bashing immigrants with titles like quote illegal immigrants are living for free in this city, and, quote, I caught illegal immigrants crossing the border. After the ball got rolling with this new brand, Shirley did a strange video titled, quote, how this country solved illegal immigration. It was about El Salvador, and the image for the video said, quote, no migrants, no crime. This was just a puff piece about Buckelly, which would end up leading to Nick's biggest hit. Buckelly allowed him to come visit the Seacott detention facility and make a video about how the people in there were scary and how Buckelly had solved the country's

gang problems by putting all the scary people in one scary place. It was perfect content for the right wing media at the time, and Nick got himself over six million views on that, and what appears to be a lasting relationship with the Buckelly government. Just six months later, Nick would return and make a video about how the prisons in El Salvador were good now, which is exactly what the right wing media needed at that point. Times have changed a little bit. It's crazy how that works.

Trump was paying Buckelly to house people who he was deporting, so people. were a little upset about the conditions that he might be sending them to, and Nick's last video made it look like it was pretty rough. They were trying to scare people about the immigrants who didn't want coming here back then, but now the goal was to alleviate people's empathy about sending people to scary prisons. The last one got less than half of the views of the first one, because of course it did. Lately, Nick's just been bootlicking the federal takeover of D.C. And his most recent video is a heart-to-heart sit-down with Tommy Robinson. so I give him no amount of leeway. Great.

There are a lot of people that you can associate with and maybe you can pretend you didn't know what they were all about. But Tommy is not one of them. If you sit down for an interview with him and it doesn't end with him storming out or punching you, you've failed and you're a bad person. Yeah. Anyway, this dipshit 23-year-old former prank YouTuber

turned police state advocate is hanging out with the president while the president reflects on how maybe some media outlets are Antifa and he should go after them. Cool. Yeah. I think it's going to be great. It's probably, I think it's going to be fine. Probably good.

It's, because here's, here's the other problem, right? What if this is all a prank that this guy is set up? But do you understand that the problem is like, unlike so many other situations like this in the past, these people are all so crazy, you know, like they're not, they're not just crazy doing the things that they're doing, which aren't crazy. You know, like, Hitler's crazy. Because to do that stuff is crazy. But he was, but this is like if Hitler was also crazy. And he's like, ah, we got to exterminate the pink elephants all over the place. Yeah, there's two varieties of crazy.

There's the like, oh, no, you have really, really bad plans. Yeah. And they have that. And then they're also like, oh, no, you're super inconsistent and dangerous and caustic. You have really, really bad plans. Like they're bad plans. They're bad intention, but they're also not good plans. No, and they're at times silly, and you're talking to this prank YouTuber.

Yeah. And Jake Posobic and Nick Sortor. Yeah. It's strange. It's very strange. Yep. Hmm. So obviously the ultimate goal of this is to take some demonization that you're building up around this nebulous, vague idea of Antifa, and then apply it to the places that you want.

Right. Which is why it's no surprise that another speaker is basically just trying to say, hey, it's the Democratic Socialist. Yeah, you've got to get them. One question. So why is it, there are numerous groups. I mean, Antifa's terrible, but you have other groups that I guess probably are almost as bad or just as bad. Not one other group was mentioned. I'm sort of surprised at that.

You just come into contact with Antifa. It seems to be that you mostly come into contact with Antifa, please. There's a lot of overlap. And I would say that, for instance, Jonathan brought up the Democratic Socialists of America. They're basically the same thing. I mean, there's a lot of Democratic Socialists of America who are out there in Black Block, you know, hiding their faces. And so I think we use, and I do understand, for the record,

I do understand the challenge, as Andy pointed out, with Antifa as a graspable entity. I do. Because it's not. But at the end of the day, when you look at behavior, you prosecute behavior, right? We're not prosecuting ideas or ideology. You're prosecuting behavior.

So whether you can prove that this amorphal, thing is Antifa or someone has a patch that says Antifa, it doesn't matter. You know, did they assault someone? Did they assault a federal agent? Yeah, that's all good and well. But this whole thing is about calling a group that you can't define a terrorist organization. Right. So shut the fuck up. Right. Did you just say, well, I mean, you know, crime is crime. And I guess it's not a crime to be Antiva. So I guess all of this means nothing. But they're trying to say it is. Right. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, hey, listen, if you say, steal something, we will just

prosecute you like you stole something. But if you steal something and you're Antifa, I mean, again, it's still the same thing. It's because Antifa's not a thing. But if you don't steal something and I get Antifa vibes off you, then we're going for you. It's probably still going to arrest you. That's what we're trying to get across here. So I think

that this person really gave up the game a little bit. Right? We want Antifa to be designated as a terrorist organization and we want to pretend that all Democratic socialists are Antifa and therefore terrorists. And then we can just apply this label to anybody that we want on the left writ large. Absolutely.

This is the Mayak report in reverse. Totally. They have to know what they're doing. I mean, it's too obvious. Yes. If you're, listen, this is, here's what my plan. Here's what I say we do, right? Side step.

Side step. These people are nuts. Don't, oh, we're a DSA. We're going to fight. No, nobody was DSA. DSA didn't exist. We're all just sidestepping. Let them run into the wall of their own stupidity.

Don't get into. do a fight. You know, it's as good an idea as I'm at this point. So Nick Sortor, he answers a question that Trump has. Yeah. And he's talking about Chicago, where we live. Yes. And he's saying, why do these, why don't these Chicagoans like me?

Oh, so many reasons. So many reasons. Why won't they let me save their city? You know what, beyond anything? You're just not from here. Fuck you. Yeah, you eat pizza with a fork. Exactly.

So when you have a governor like Pritzker in Chicago, where you have Illinois, which is in a lot of trouble, Chicago's there, you know, potentially a great city again. It's not great now, but it could be great again. That's why we have to get there soon because eventually you can't do that. What makes a man like that say that things are wonderful? Why doesn't he say we love that President Trump is going to come and help us clean up Chicago and make it safe again as opposed to fighting us? And pretending that there weren't 50 murders and 200 shootings and all of that. Why is that? Go ahead, Nick. To spite you. To spite the administration. That's simply what it's about at this point. It's all about spite.

They just don't see your brilliance. This is crazy. What is this? Well, I think it's what Trump wants. Right. And I think that some of these people are such shitheads and so young. Like, I don't think Nick Sortor is that old. Yeah.

Nick Shirley is 23. Yeah. Jack Posobic's Forever Young. Mm. He cried in comment pig pong. He's a baby. It has to be, of course, it has to be mind melting. The idea that the dumbest and most pathetic thing you can do is sit next to the president of the United States, right?

You can't, you can't be one of these guys and get the call. Do you want to be, do you want to do this with the president of the United States? be like, you know what, thinking ahead, I don't want to be an embarrassment for the rest of my life. So no president of the United States. Well, like, I was thinking about it and like, look, I don't have, we don't have the kind of YouTube views that, you know, some influencer might. Right. But I believe in the content that we put out, and I believe in a lot of the stuff that we've

shown over the years. Sure. If the president asked me to come to a panel about, like, right-wing extremism, like, this, I wouldn't go. No. This would be embarrassing. Yeah. Even if I liked the president.

Yeah. I probably wouldn't like the president, even if I liked the president. Right. That's me. And I think it would be embarrassing for the president to ask me. And I think it's embarrassing for them to ask Nick Shirley and Nick Sortor. Yep. No Nix.

Everybody involved in this should feel worse about what's happening than they do. And that bothers me. I feel like I'm the only one who feels truly as bad as I should about what these people they're doing. And you're about to feel even worse. Oh, God. Because there's a, there's a Q&A session. No. And Trump gets asked a question that I think he could not have fielded worse.

Please. Thank you, sir. I also have two questions for you, if I may. Have you given any more thought to possibly suspending Mbis corpus to not only deal with these insurrectionists across the nation, but also to

continue rapidly deporting illegal aliens? Yeah, it's suspending who? I don't know. I'd rather leave that to Kishol. What do you think? No, sir, I haven't been a part of any discussions on that. Yeah.

So Trump says a lot of dumb shit, and people clown on him for whiffing on the delivery of a joke about Hannibal Lecter. And for the most part, I try not to get too bogged down in that stuff. Sure. He's a shithead who loves to talk, and he says a bunch of stupid things. He's a shit-talker. Earlier in this episode, Trump said that he took the freedom of speech away from flag-burning. and that wasn't a gaffe. That wasn't misspeaking.

That was a man directly stating that he opposes free speech. It was a president saying that he does not respect the court's understanding of the Constitution, which means that we don't really have a coherent constitution. The courts have come to one decision and the president is enforcing a different one, and that creates an unstable situation. Similarly, this habeas corpus thing is not a gaffe. He doesn't understand the basic legal principle that you need to have evidence of a crime to arrest someone you can't just round people up and then figure out if they've committed crimes later he

heard the verb suspend so he assumed this was about someone he should fire not the bedrock of all american civil liberty i'm sure he's heard the words habeas corpus before but he just doesn't have any thoughts about them this is fucked up yeah and it's not it's not sure it's funny that he says you suspend habeas corpus who yeah no that's kind of funny it is funny but it's really really dangerous. Absolutely. No, absolutely. Everybody,

here's what's fascinating, right? There are people who are actually real adults, right? Who have actual real responsibilities. Who could just be like, no, we're not doing this. I'm going to hit him in the head with the chair. Somebody could go to the White House, right, and just follow him to the bathroom and like push him. And then he's dead.

And it's like he's 90 years old. It was an accident. It was just an accident. It was an accident. Hey, hear me out. I'm just saying. Hear me out. It was an accident.

Stone Cold has stunned him before. That's what I'm saying. Maybe. He gets invited. Stone Cold gets an invite to Mar-a-Lago. They're hanging out. They're, of course, going to meet in the bathroom to do some coke together. What?

What happens? There's a trip. What? There's a fall. Uh-oh. Trump's not going to make it. Who knows? It was an accident.

Mm-hmm. Man, I don't know about hitting with a chair or any of that shit, but adults should just be like, nope, this is gone too far this is yeah because either you have to just fucking take over the government yeah or you can't do shit like this you can't say that you've taken free speech away from stuff and say nope i don't know about habeas corpus i'm gonna leave that to christie gnome yep you can't do this shit it's fundamentally incompatible with running a government yeah there's there is a thing and if you don't use it now it doesn't exist yeah you know there is that if the president is fucking crazy we can just be like, no president, right?

If you don't use that now, then it doesn't exist. It's like the impeachment. If it didn't work then, it doesn't exist. Yeah. And the Trump gamble is that people aren't going to do things and that they're going to just keep going. Like, he sends troops into L.A. and nothing happens. So now he'll send troops into Chicago and he'll send them into Portland.

No matter what, it's just going to keep going. Yep. It makes me think of a quote that Alex thinks Thomas Jefferson. said, it was that how far will a tyrant go? As far as you let him. So, I was seeing this horrible display from our government. Sure. And I just started flipping around channels.

Why not? And what do I see? There's a new video from Tucker Carlson titled, quote, ICE protests and Antifa riots. Tucker Carlson warns of total destruction if America doesn't act fast. All right. Now, this is strange, because last I had heard from Tucker, he was interviewing Lee Strobel about demons.

And then he did another interview with another guy who no one's ever fucking heard of about how the blockchain was created in order to give demons physical bodies. Okay. We're on a real demon kick, a demon feast. It's a demon feast. Yeah.

And now all of a sudden he's rushing out a dire warning that America needs to act fast to avoid destruction from Antifa. This is great timing. Aren't Antiva demons? Well, probably. I mean, they would, like, listen, I don't know how you can have both demons,

the source of evil and strife for all. And then also, unrelated to demons, Antifa, right? Well, no, because I mean, like, how do you have the Joker and the penguin? I mean, I suppose you're right, but I feel like once we get into demon territory, then we're just all doing offshoots a demon behavior, right? So, like, if you're Antifa and we've got real demons, then somewhere along the Antifa chain is a demon in charge of Antifa.

You know what I mean? Maybe, but, like, you think, like, oh, yeah, there's not. going to be, like some people are straight edge. They go to punk shows and they don't drink. That's fair. Maybe there's some people who don't partake of the demon. No, I understand. I get it. I'm just saying it feels, it feels a little like long habit Republican to not be in with the demons. You've probably got some perks. I had this problem with pro wrestling storytelling, which is like Bray Wyatt. He had the

fiend in him. Yeah. And it gave him like superhuman strength. Right. And if we're supposed to believe that this is all real, then every other wrestler should be trying to a demon. Yeah, absolutely. Because he can't be beaten. You got to, yeah. It's clearly a cheat. It's got to be demon on demon now.

You got to get your own demon to fight fire with fire. It makes sense. Yeah, so if you're Antifa, you would think you'd be hunting down demons to give you a little power. Absolutely. Give it a little boost. Yeah. So, uh, we're going to listen to a little bit of talk.

Okay. See how he's, uh, hanging out on, on, he didn't get an invite either, but I think it's probably because he's too big. Yeah, you don't, he doesn't, he shouldn't be there. He's going to draw eyes away from who it should be on, which. as Trump. Jack was mildly slumming. Yeah.

Tucker would be like, no. Yeah. So here's where Tucker starts off. Okay. He's a bummer. He's giving you some downer news. Okay. Well, not to be depressing, but here's the truth and something you should keep in mind over the next few years.

The United States, two things to keep in mind. The United States is moving, not inexorably, but still moving toward civil war, number one. and number two, civil wars are the very worst kind of wars, worse than any kind of war fought against a foreign adversary. So to number one, why is America moving towards civil war? For the same reason, all countries that wind up in civil war get there because the differences between their population... Racism?

Between people within their borders becomes too great to bear. People decide, I have nothing in common with the people who live near me and I don't want to live near them anymore. I thought it was slavery. Diversity, difference is actually intolerable to most people. Not necessarily racial diversity, though sometimes that too, but diversity of all kinds. It is not our strength. In fact, it is without question our weakness and it has always been.

If you have nothing in common with your wife, do you have a stronger marriage? No, of course your marriage falls apart. And the same is true for countries. You must be identical to your wife. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah, so diversity, you don't want to see people who are different than you. It's going to cause a civil war.

Right. See, now I always viewed Civil Wars differently as like maybe a bunch of rich people wanted to grab more or different territory within their already controlled bounds. And then they gathered two different groups, like gang leaders essentially. Oftentimes there are the ripples of colonialist history that ring down through time that pit two groups against each other within a... That happens sometimes. But also diversity is bad. It could be diversity. Yeah, it's probably diversity.

I have probably. I will agree with him that civil wars are bad and that they hurt a lot of people. I would say, I would say wars all equally bad. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bold stance he's taking. Yeah, I get it. I get it.

So the U.S., it's falling apart because of diversity. Sure. And here's the problem. Not enough white Christians. And the truth about the United States is that on every level, beginning with a demographic level, the American population has less in common with itself, with one another. than ever before. When I was born, which wasn't that long ago, was the modern era, was air travel and air conditioning, electricity. When I was born, the United States was about

90% white Christian. It's now less than 40% white Christian. Now, you may think that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it's a massive change and unprecedented change, really, in a very short period of time. And of course, it's not accidental or organic. That was the result of policies put in place to achieve that result. And they did. There are people who didn't want, a majority white Christian country. Okay, they got what they wanted. But what do they have? They have a country with no majority

demographically at all. There is no American majority. You legit can't make your white nationalism more clear than this. The country is heading for civil war because there are less white Christians in the country and making sure

that all the power is held by that group. That was what was holding the country together all along. Someone, not going to say who, but you probably know, wanted there to be less white Christians in the country. So they plotted a great replacement of sorts. And here we are heading to Civil War because just white people don't have enough power. You know, I was just thinking about that.

That was the thing, right? Rhodesia, the white people didn't have enough power. That was the whole problem. At a point. Absolutely. South Africa. There was a real issue there. Real problem.

Came to a crisis point where white people didn't have enough power. But it wasn't that they had too much. that caused the civil war, that would be ridiculous. No. That would be silly to think that. It's because they didn't have enough. Right. That makes sense.

Yep. And the problem is, there's no majority in America anymore. That doesn't feel true, but okay. No, no, it's not. But Tucker, Tucker is a fucking dick. There is no American majority, which is to say 51% of people who have something very basic and common. And so what you have is an inherently fractured country.

languages, religions, ethnicities, backgrounds, beliefs too innumerable to catalog. And so a country like that, unless unified by something, will split apart, particularly when that country is the size of a continent and is held together by a pretty fragile web of infrastructure, air routes and highways. And so unless you are very self-conscious about keeping it together physically but also spiritually, explaining to people why they should have any regard at all, much less any obligation to people in, say, the next town, much less the next state. Unless you do that self-consciously, unless you inculcate a sense of national identity,

it will by nature fall apart. That is a physics principle, entropy. It'll blow up unless you hold it together. And this has been an unintended garden for decades. I'm pretty sure that white people are still the majority, but I guess Tucker wants it to be white Christians, so that might be under the 51% threshold. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The U.S. identity could be capitalism.

Like, way more than 51% of the country subscribes to capitalist ideals, but, like, that's not going to work for Tucker because far too many people have seen through the false promises that system is built on, and Tucker's supposed to be a populist type guy, so he can't do that. He'd be selling a bill of goods to people. The weirder, the stranger, the harder times, the more you lean into the faith. Gotta go with the faith. Don't talk about money right now.

Money's going to be not your problem for a while. You're going to want Jesus, baby. Yeah. You're going to want that. That's the good stuff. I guess, you know, you look around and there's just no identity to be found in America. Nope. Without white Christians having all the power, we're doomed to Tower of Babel ourselves all over again.

And we're going to end up in a civil war at the top of that tower. Obviously, there's just nothing. that brings the United States together other than, oh, just about everything, just about everything keeps these assholes together. Man, there's a number of things. But as far as Tucker's

concerned, no one has ever explained why we should be one country. That doesn't sound true. No, he's a dick. Nobody in charge of the United States over the past, say, 40 years has really tried to articulate why all

of us should live together on the same continent. there's kind of been an unspoken ethos of America a kind of gay rights technocracy Globo homo we're all kind of cool with lifestyles but that's thin gruel in the end it's also repulsive but even if you like it

it's not enough to hold people together who don't have common beliefs backgrounds, languages, religions it's just not this Globo homo thing is cute but it reveals how shallow Tucker's discussion of any of these types of issues is a belief in

LGBTQ rights can be built on a bunch of different foundations, but ultimately it comes down to like self-determination. If you're a man and you love another man, do you think the state should tell you not to? Like, if you're not the gender you were assigned at birth, do you think the state should force you to live a life that you don't identify with? When shit doesn't hurt other people, America is supposed to be on the side of letting people choose how they want to live and making room for everyone. This is ironically, the American identity that I think does unite us. Yeah.

And it's what I grew up believing America has the potential to be. Self-determination is the American promise, and it's the fuel that powers everyone's fantasies about the American dream. If Tucker's disgusted by gay people, good for him. That's his right, but it doesn't mean anything other than that he's mad for no reason. This entire presentation is just him trying to elevate his bigotry into being some kind of righteousness, and it's paper thin. Yeah.

It's gross. yeah yeah man it's just that that desire to like okay the idea of looking at something

somebody else is doing right and just being like for that to exist ruins my life is utterly insane it is utterly insane

to be like oh well I saw this thing I will never see it again it will never me. It does not physically attach itself to me in any way. The particles of existence did not interact with my particles or even will interact with my particles. And yet I must take over the government to hurt them. Yeah. Yeah. It's a strange way to view freedom. It is. You know, and I think that the way the Tucker is talking about it, it just, it makes me think that either he

is stupid or he has an expectation that his audience is stupid and doesn't have any real engagement with the ideas of like what is cool about America right

what is the promise right well I mean he's trying to remove any kind of ironically his call for a national identity is the desire to remove identity and replace it with team sports

you know instead of it being the United States of hey leave me the fuck alone government. I got shit to do. It's the United States of, you love the United States. That's all you need. Yeah. And it needs to be his identity. Exactly. That is, it needs to

be, that is the, what America is. And you other fucking people are just lucky that we don't kill you. Yep. That's basically what he's advocating. You're either American or we allow you to live here and baby, we might not do that

tomorrow. Yeah, so thank me. Yeah, exactly. Fuck you. Fuck you. What a Anyway, civil wars are bad. So what would happen if it came apart? What would happen if there were a civil war? Well, the first thing to know is it would be incredibly violent because wars are by nature violent, and civil wars especially so. Violent and crazy.

And you do hear from time to time people on both sides, particularly on the left, but not only on the left, say, well, I'm just sick of it. I'm just sick of it. You know, I'm ready. I'm ready for the fight. People who say that I've never seen what that looks like. Anyone who has seen what that looks like approaches the entire topic with care and respect. because it's incredibly ugly

and its effects are generational. And if you don't believe, it consider our own Civil War, which ended 160 years ago in 1865, and we're still fighting it. We're still arguing over the names of Confederate generals, tearing down their statues, renaming military bases,

stereotyping people in the South. That war is still ongoing on some level. It's not a hot war, but it's very much a Cold War and has been for 160 years. Go to Spain. their civil war ended in what 1939 they're still arguing about they're still passing legislation about it the wounds left by civil wars do not heal quickly they last for i don't know hundreds of years and they completely remake the country usually for the worse glad to hear that tucker think

civil wars are bad slightly upset to hear that he thinks they often change things for the worst after he gave the example of the u.s civil war kind of feel like maybe he would have rooted for the South. Are you saying that by abolishing slavery, we have come into a worse outcome? I think that's one of the takeaways you should get from that because I think he would think that the right side won the Spanish Civil War. I would say so. A bunch of his audience are huge fans of Franco.

Yeah. So like, I don't know if that can be an example of the wrong team winning. I don't know. What are you going to say? Sometimes you just wish you still had slaves. you know well that's what Tucker says apparently I think I wonder what it's like to grow up with that kind of wealth or like in that kind of wealth association where it is like you could have legitimately people being like man if only I still had my slaves as a totally normal conversational thing and then you just laugh and then you just got crazy laugh well we'll just pay our employees less like crazy angry laugh that Tucker has Horrified. So there is a way to stop this.

Yeah. There's a way to stop civil war. More white people? No, more Christians. So if you want to prevent a civil war, figure out what everybody, or at least the bulk of the people in your nation, have in common, and emphasize that. And so what would that be in our case?

Hard to know. In fact, at this stage, really the only realistic hope for national unity is spiritual revival. is a place where most Americans wake up to realize that God exists and created every single person in the United States of America. And that's what we have in common, our humanity. Not because our common humanity is meaningful by itself, but because our common humanity comes from God and we're created in his image. And only when people truly realize that will they hesitate before killing each other.

Now, here's what brings us together. I'm fine with you believing that. Sure. Don't make me. That's what brings us together. Well, okay. I won't. Oh.

But I will kill you if you don't. Shit. So in a way, I'm not making you. I am giving you a choice. I'm guessing this is my fault. Well, I mean, if God hadn't put you in this situation. So in a way, it's God's fault. But also, it's not really his fault when you're dead.

That fucker's mysterious. He is mysterious as shit. I'm not. No. Not really. Just kind of a dick. I'm very straightforward. This guy is, though.

fucking worst. Yeah. So, yeah, apparently everybody just has to adopt his version of Christianity and then everything will be fine. I mean, I've never lived in a theocracy. It's happened to, I wouldn't say most people, but I think in human history, a solid chunk. A lot of people have had that experience.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd say a lot of humanity has lived through a theocracy and we've made it through plenty of them, not the people who lived through them. Most of them didn't have a good stretch. But, you know, it'd be interesting. Here's what I demand. What do you demand? I don't think I get a choice, and that's why I'm making a demand.

That is the problem with the choices. I demand that if we must have a theocracy, it be matrixism. Okay. All right. So you say Leo Zagami is got to take over? Yes. I would vote for Leo Zagami. At this point, I would vote for Leo Zagami.

For Pope? I would love to see it. Absolutely. If I'm Cardinal. Arch Pope of the world government. If I am Cardinal. I have right now writing a name in there, and I'm praying for white smoke. I've heard him say the stupidest fucking shit in the world, and it's still preferable to the garbage that I'm here.

100%. Because at least he can dance. Yeah. Spend some wax. Right? So there's some things that the government can do. Okay. I guess to get people to accept God or something.

That's probably really bad. Probably, probably. But maybe there's some other things they can do. Okay, okay, okay. But in the meantime, there is a step that the government at all levels, federal, state and local, can take to restore at least a sense of calm in the midst of rising chaos. And if you can't smell that right now, then you obviously have long COVID because it is redolent. This country is on the brink. And in fact, you saw the normal dummies today on social media taking pictures of poor.

Portland, Oregon. Everything is fine here in Portland. They're liars where they're intentionally blind to the reality right in front of them, which is the country is degrading and you can tell by its cities. They are falling apart. There's no country in the world with as many ugly, dangerous, dysfunctional, dirty cities as we have. It's painful to say that as someone who was born and has always lived here and plans to always live here. But that's a fact. And as someone who travels a lot, I can affirm what you already know. And as someone who travels a lot, I can tell you this until I need to tell you something different that's more convenient to me demonizing another country that has all the shitty cities and is a fucking hellhole and they're sending their worst people over here. Right. You know, we'll do that when I need to. But for now, trust me, I travel all over the place. Right. Just to be clear, what divides us is a lack of shared unity, which is why I'm letting you know that the city you're in is fine. But every other human being in every other city is fucking crazy and is going to kill you at any single moment.

because we don't have a shared identity. At all times, every city that you're not in is besieged by mobs of zombies. All of them. Feces everywhere. Needles. How do they live? How do they live? It's almost like I would have to be making this up for people to survive in an environment like that.

And you know, I'm not. I'm well-traveled. Exactly. I'm telling you this now, because it's what works. Because it's what works. So earlier, we heard a little bit of Jack Posobics, harkening back to Antifa coming from the Weimar Republic kind of talk. Yep.

And I think that you hear echoes of that in Tucker. Our cities are dying. And when your cities die, your country dies. And a lot of people don't want to believe this because they move to rural areas and are hoping to just sort of ignore it. I'd be in that category. But it's nevertheless true. When your cities die, your country dies.

And our cities are dying the kind of death that can't be permanent. They're dying the death born of chaos where things just get so cool. crazy and people literally die on the street also have sex and defecate on the street but die on the street and that's intolerable chaos is intolerable people can't handle it so out of chaos comes what democracy spontaneous order no imposed order dictatorship of course each and every time that's what happens out of chaos people beg for a strong man there's always so unwilling to oblige and that's exactly what they get and that's exactly what we're going to get unless some kind of order is restored.

Wait, wait, whoa, whoa, way of saying. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, don't, don't, don't, don't, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, dot, da, da, da, da. I think someone has just become too much of a dick. I think your brain broke. That's crazy. That is the most double-speak thing I have ever heard a real human being saying. ever, that's ever been. And you know what?

When he talks like that, it makes me concerned about what he knows Trump has planned. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, if we don't nip this in the bud right now, it's going to get bad. So anyways, we're going to let Hitler take over.

During the election, he was saying that Trump was daddy and he was going to spank us for being naughty. Yep. Like, he was selling, the entire sales pitch was strong man going to take care of what needs to be taken care of. Yep. Like, this is bullshit. Him talking about this as a future possibility

when he already sold us that guy. You're the one who made the chaos that gave us the thing. What are we talking about? All the people were eating their pets. They ran out of pets. That's why we're not talking about it anymore. It's still a problem.

See, here's the problem with civil wars. Here's the problem with civil wars. People think that it's a civil war. I don't know you. I'm not going to fight you. What do you think you believe something? I don't give a shit what you believe. Why would we fight each other?

I want to fight that motherfucker. That motherfucker needs a fight. I'll fight him. I know him. I know he needs fighting. You're probably fine. Dave from Sabaro. Dave from Sabaro needs to get his act together with those slices.

But yes, Tucker could use a good, like, I don't think you should, like, hurt him. But I think challenging him to a fight. Yeah. Like back in the old days Might be a good thing Like the idea of Meet me at the corner Right like the idea of

Oh I'm gonna join the Florida 11th To go invade Illinois And I'm gonna be in the 15th And we're gonna fight each other Shut the fuck up Yeah it's silly Fuck off Jesus Christ

Yeah so this guy S sucks Why is he acting upset About the possibility Of the thing he wanted Is it's a weird Weird, isn't it? So I believe that Tucker is a keen enough observer to see that Trump is on his way to

a complete dictatorship and that he needs to get ahead of this thing. Going against Trump is scary because there's actual consequences for that. And other than Trump's audience, no one likes Tucker. So that's not an option. Yep. The next best choice is to accept that Trump is a dictator, but act like we brought it on ourselves, which is what Tucker is doing in this video. Yep.

It's all very preemptive. You can really feel it. Yeah, no, I mean, it's textbook. Yeah, and it mirrors what Trump and all these other dicks we're doing at this press conference. Yep. There's message discipline between these two things. Everyone's doing it. Yep.

The thing that's nice, the thing that's nice for us, though, is that it's a lot harder to do in a space as big as the United States. You know, like if you're thinking, oh, well, we've got a military, we're Germany, we're going to press people in our cities, you know, like Berlin, there's a ton of people there, but most of your cities are fairly small. You're going to, per soldier, you're going to press like a few hundred people, right? Maybe. How many national guardsmen would you need to send in just to Chicago to oppress the right amount of people?

Well, I guess that's where it becomes a question of the right amount of people. A lot of people are going to be hurt by whatever number, you know? And so, like, obviously, you're not going to be able to fly the Trump flag over the city as a vanquished territory or whatever. But like, you're going to be able to fuck a lot of people's lives up. For sure. And also destroy the foundations of a civil government. You're going to try.

So that's a lot of damage. Yeah, that's going to be rough. Anyway, I believe that one of the cornerstones of conservatism. Yeah. States rights. But not for long. Not for long, baby. Not anymore.

Federal government. or get out. All day. He sit, those of us on the East Coast, and look over at the West Coast, my home state of California, and watch its politicians declare boycotts against this or that American state or say in public, I'm not going to follow this federal law. The federal government has no dominion here. We all sort of laugh. Oh, they're so crazy.

Each one of those actions is a form of insurrection. In fact, every bit as profound as anything that happened in Fort Sumter in 1861, the battle that kicked off the civil war, the deadliest war in American history, the one from which we're still recovering, those are acts of insurrection. Either you have a federal government with power over the states,

or you don't. Either federal laws apply to all 50 states, or they don't. And for decades, some states have opted out of federal law, and the rest of the states have just sort of laughed at them or tried to ignore it. Oh, marijuana is illegal,

we're going to have marijuana anyway. Oregon decriminalized fentanyl and meth five years ago if ever there was a time to send federal troops into Oregon it was when Oregon did that whoa okay

send in the troops over drug decriminalization I'm sorry the fuck is going on it does this guy not realize I mean of course he does understand but like so much of the tea party

so much of that it was energized by stuff like Jade Helm, stuff like the Bundy Ranch, shit like that. Like, this is directly counter to everything that is the foundation of where his power sits. We went ape shit because the United States government sent a tank to a relatively criminally associated organization in Waco, Texas, right? That was fucked up. But now, we would prefer it if the government sent that to an intent.

higher state. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're acting up. Battalions. And if they don't stop acting up, we're going to get a dictator. What are they going to do? What are we going to start doing?

Drone striking people in the middle of the fucking street? What is this? They might open another Sabara. Right? What are we talking about? Sending troops and to do what with what? Right? I don't know.

It's something to do with free speech being gone, though. I can tell you that much. Okay, fair enough. So there's a lot of stuff going on with Trump, trying to send risk pieces around. Absolutely, yeah, yeah. We're spread thin on our own nation, I guess. Yeah, and courts are kind of saying some stuff,

but it's complicated. Fair enough. But now, because the issue is immigration, which is a core issue, the federal government is doing something. President Trump has announced he is sending federal troops to the state of Oregon and to the city of Chicago. He's not yet sent federal troops to Oregon.

there's a court fight that's way too complex and not that interesting to explain. Can we send troops? No! That is preventing. Very complex. National guardsmen have arrived, mostly from Texas, in the state of Illinois, in Chicago, to force the president says, that city to allow ICE, the Immigration Service, federal immigration officers to do their job, to deport people who are breaking federal law, illegal aliens. and the mayor of Chicago

and the governor of Illinois have said multiple times we do not follow federal immigration law in the state of Illinois and the city of Chicago. It's not that Illinois doesn't follow federal immigration laws it's that they don't waste resources rounding up suspected immigrants and terrorizing communities.

By state law, local law enforcement isn't allowed to be involved with federal immigration policing. But there isn't like a law that says that local cops have to ride around with cops or the ICE. Like, there's no federal law that supersedes this that's like, oh, you're breaking that law. We have, there are people with jobs here.

What are we doing? Yeah. Tucker's version of this issue is bullshit, which is by design, because it's meant to create the impression that Chicago and Portland deserve to be invaded. Of course. And occupied. Yeah. It's weird that the Oregon case is too complicated for Tucker to get into because it's really

simple. Trump wanted to take over the Oregon National Guard and send them into Portland. And the governor said no. Right. Trump wanted to do it anyway. So the state sued him, and a district court ruled that he couldn't take over the Oregon Guard. Yeah. So he decided that he was just going to use National Guard troops from other states and send them into Portland.

Makes sense. So then the same judge, who Trump appointed in his first term, said he couldn't do that either, because that's a flagrant violation of the original order. I mean, what are you talking about? So then the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals heard the case and ruled that Trump could federalize the Oregon National Guard, but that it couldn't go into Portland until the court fully reviews the case. I burn it, burn it down, burn it. It's all very simple. Trump has insisted on sending troops into an American city, and the courts are putting up ineffectual resistance to it. Trump has, in effect, destroyed posse comitatis and state sovereignty, two of the main pillars of the modern conservative ideology that supposedly drove him into office and these people are supposed to care so much about.

But he's just, he's to borrow a preoccupation of Alex, he's pissing all over them. Yeah. You know, here's the problem. here's what's here's the problem fundamentally right when this happened and the the conflict happened they took it to the courts and people expected to they you know they listen what should have happened is they should have just gone to the people in the Oregon National Guard and been like hey let's all say we're not going to do this and if they did then it wouldn't matter yeah it's it's it is an option of how things could go let's just not do this even if

Even if the president orders us to do something that the president can't do, let's just preemptively say, we're not going to. Well, I mean, this was a preoccupation of the early times right wing, which is this idea that troops would not, they would sign things that they wouldn't follow unconstitutional orders. Right. That's the whole thing about the oath keepers. That's what their name is based on. The whole oath thing. Yeah. And so like, yeah, people could do that.

Whatever happened, you can't make me. I remember hearing that a lot more. Not anymore. Nope. Apparently they can make it. Apparently they can. So, you know, hey, everybody's all up in a, about Trump sending in troops.

But like this happens all the time. Does it? Yeah. No, it does not. Yeah, it does. No, it does not. Like Eisenhower. Has there ever been a single instance of some Nazi in the White House

sending troops into a state to uphold federal? It's never happened before. It's never happened before, except it's happened like a million times. And it's been celebrated almost every single time. Beginning at least in September of 1957, three years after the Brown v. Board of Education decision came down from the Supreme Court banning segregation in public schools in the United States.

And in the state of Arkansas, in the capital city Little Rock, Central High School, a high school, was not following... Your pro-segregation. And so Dwight David Eisenhower, General Eisenhower, commander of American troops in Europe during World War II, the President of the United States, sent the 101st Airborne to Central High School.

The 101st Airborne, not like 300 fat guardsmen from San Antonio, but the 101st Airborne with M-1s. to a high school and then he left his vacation and he went on television to explain why he did it and remarkably thanks to the internet

we have the tape. Here's part of it. In that city under the leadership of demagogic extremists disorderly mobs have deliberately prevented the carrying out of proper orders from a federal court.

Local authorities have not eliminated that violent opposition and under the law I yesterday issued a proclamation calling upon the mob to disperse. Yep, that was General then-President Eisenhower, September 1957, sending the 101st Airborne to Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas, because the racist governor, Erbil Phobis, wouldn't let black students attend a white high school. And every liberal in America applauded. Oh man. I have no response to this. This is he's, that's a gotcha. Wow. I've been defeated by my own partard. Yeah. For one thing like you pointed out, Tucker isn't in favor of Eisenhower

sending in the troops to desegregate the schools. Yeah. And he literally says later in this episode that letting black people into white schools destroyed the educational system. There you go. What are you going to do? This is a bad argument. At best, this is the side I don't like did a bad thing so I can too. That's really shitty. This is a debate kid version of this, right? It's like, it doesn't matter what anything I have to say is this is good for the argument in this exact moment. Yeah, you haven't established anything in terms of like what I'm doing is positive. It's just you did a negative, so now we're even.

Yep. There's a big difference, though, between these situations that Tucker is hoping that you don't notice, which is where the big racist sleight of hand trick happens. What Supreme Court order is Trump sending troops into Chicago and Portland to inform? The, you got to be what I say, the order. Did the Supreme Court decide that all local law enforcement has to drop everything to help round up suspected immigrants? Is that, did they do that? Because that maybe would make sense.

I don't recall. I don't recall it happening. In Eisenhower's case, there was a specific ruling that racists were refusing to accept. And when the kids were allowed to go to school, the troops had served their purpose. At what point can you expect that Trump's goals with sending troops into American cities will be achieved? At what point is Antifa destroyed? Oh, whenever it exists. Right. At what point have you cleared out all the illegal immigrants?

I mean, at what point do you run out of people? Yeah, at some point. Right? Tucker's a lying asshole, but he's not this stupid. He just expects that everyone who watches this show is, or they're full-on racists, and they really don't need an argument. Yeah. So it just doesn't stand up.

No, sometimes it does feel like this is just like, hey, I know you've been in this situation before, where you feel. like, I'm not being racist, but at the same time, you're saying the N-word. You know that's wrong, right? But I'm a high-status guy. Look at me saying absolutely insane shit, too. Yeah. Right?

It's okay for you to say shit. Look at me. And because I'm this high-status person that you're looking up to, I have my own show. I'm cool, and I do commercials for dog telemedicine. Yeah. I am sitting here. I'm going to, like, show a behavior that you can, mirror in your life when you get into an argument that you feel like maybe I can't get my way out of

this bring up Eisenhower yep do that you got it yeah I'm going to give you this this card that you can play this little trick that's exactly what it's a fucking stupid trick yep it doesn't work no so Chicago what about it are we dead yet no we were nuked a couple times okay in Alex's career right now now the Texas National Guard is here Ebola might have broken out it's no that was So are they helping us? They want to, but Pritzker won't let him because he's spiteful. Oh, he's so spiteful.

And this city fucking sucks. Yeah, we're all, bah. That sucks. And the mayor's a racist. And Chicago is particularly, particularly disgraceful. What word did you just say? You don't have to guess about that. I'm going to show you a video in just a second.

But you don't have to guess. Look at the numbers. Look at the outflow from Chicago. Are people who are born in Chicago staying in Chicago? No, they're fleeing. Go to South Carolina. West Florida. Go to dinner in Naples some night and ask, anyone here

from Illinois? It's half the room. And they're grateful to be gone. That's how dystopian is. It's cold. On every level, economically, primarily. But even on a more basic level, it's just too dangerous. Oh, the freedoms we're losing, really? What about my freedom to walk to the liquor store at midnight without

getting killed? It's too cold. How about my freedom to stop at a red light without getting shot? That's totally real. It's not fake. It's not racist to say that. The mayor of Chicago is an open racist. So irony of ironies, here you have a president sending troops facing down a recalcitrant racist local official. That does sound like 1962, doesn't it?

Except this time, the president in question is not getting accolades from the New York Times. He's being called a dictator. A dictator! All right. I've won the point. All right. We're fighting. All right, that's fine

You say that again, let's go Let's just do it Yeah, you're not serious Shut the fuck up Oh, this racist Mayor is rejecting our amazing, holy dear leaders

Who's trying to free us? Absolutely. From the tyranny of being shot at every stoplight Oh my God Yeah, it happens Every time you stop at a red light You can't possibly by any means like that is just piss in my face just literally at the very it would be more respectful exactly

we would both know what we're doing and it would be open and honest you know in the same way that when trump is saying like these pillars of the constitution don't apply it's just like fucking take over the government already Jesus Christ yeah in the same way with Tucker piss on me yeah just just do it stop dipping your toe in the water yeah you're not getting style points for this right my problem is too much of a coward to oppress me right. That's a bummer. So Chicago sucks.

Yeah. And to make his point, Tucker plays some video of some of the ice protests in Chicago. So there's like people throwing stuff at some cars. Gotcha. Whatever you. It's out of control. Oh, no. And then he comes back. So what's interesting about those videos

is who's participating in the rioting, in the violence there? There's the normal assortment of Unhappy white young people Make up the bulk of Antifa. We're unhappy and young. The Democratic Party Party's activist wing, all the little

DSA kids, you know, the children of orthodontists from Great Deck who are, you know, reliving the glories of the 60s or whatever. The weird little polyamorous nihilist freaks. So mad. What are you doing? So mad. What is going on? You rich prick?

To anyone who's watched this stuff over the years. A repulsive group, a dangerous group, a sad group, by the way. You shouldn't have a lot of... I'm going to go to the library. They should be looking forward to a brighter future, getting married, having kids, doing something useful, building something, not just destroying.

But they're not. So that is recognizable. We've seen a lot of that over the past 10 years, and we're going to see a lot more going forward, unfortunately, unless someone gets a hold of this now. But what was new in that video were what looked like immigrants, Latin American immigrants

What There were immigrants at the protest What What is happening It's not just all white people in Antifa Oh my God Oh no this is a new phenomenon What is happening to this

What is going on with the brains of human beings right now It's crazy That's mush Yeah He can't expect anyone who has watched his show in the past to take this seriously. You're the one who's saying that they're everywhere

at these protests. Covered the fucking caravans and all this shit for years. Right? What the fuck is wrong with you? This is degrading. I am... God damn it.

You know, it's just you want a better class of criminal. Really, you just do. At a certain point, you're like, this is beneath me, you know? Yeah. Well, this is like a guy who thinks he's walking a tight rope.

Yeah. And he's like on the ground. Yeah. This is not impressive what you're, you're falling over and you're not off the ground. He's failing a fucking breathalyzer test as he imagines he's tightroping. Yeah. It's terrible. Yeah.

So I think one of the reasons that Tucker is having, he's doing this little pretend stick. Sure. Is that he just wants, he wants to not appear racist. I mean, there's no way to take anything that he has said up to this point as being racist, clearly. No, and especially after he says, like, in this next clip, like, there's a lot of really good Hispanic people. I believe him already. And this is why it's shocking that they're involved in protests. That is shocking.

The truth is, all illegal immigration is bad. Rapid mass migration is always bad because it makes countries crazy and chaotic. But it's also true that our Latin American immigrants are, I mean, probably met a million of them, good people. super hard workers and it's true that they're doing jobs that you know you probably did as a kid and your kids probably aren't doing those jobs because latin americans are doing them i'm saying this if you're white so i think most people who are very opposed to illegal immigration and very opposed to mass migration at this point very opposed to any immigration which would include me definitely are not mad at latin american immigrants because they're mostly nice people they're

Christian people and they work hard and there's some drunk driving but in general they kind of played by the rules most of them what the fuck was that people would get here as immigrants and immediately join a violent street protest you know we haven't seen that since about 1905 we haven't that's shocking that's scary if that's true and it's scary for the following reason the volume the scale how many immigrants did we get during the Biden years well no one knows of course people pretend They know, but they don't know. Does Tucker not remember all the hysteria he's been pushing about MS-13 and Trendre Aragua? Does he think that he's presented a neutral kind of nice face for immigrants and that he's just now turning the corner because he saw a clip of some people who weren't white at a protest?

The fuck is he trying to pass off here. I have no idea. This is brazen. This is, I mean, fuck me. Jesus Christ. Yeah, they're joining these violent mobs. Do you know what I appreciate Because it happens so frequently now

Especially whenever we're talking about Latin immigrants Or whatever Whatever euphemism these chosen people are choosing to use It's always hard worker Sure Because again, that is the only time They interact with these people And the only context wherein he can think of

Exactly Call to Mind person Totally be lazy It doesn't matter It's, they're just people. They're people like everybody. We're all just people. He's kind of telling on himself a little bit, too,

and he's like, the jobs that you used to do. Right? I mean, if you're white. He just automatically assumes the you he's talking to is white people. I mean, it's just ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. But look, these people are coming over and they're protesting.

Right. The fuck. I mean, do they have to be coming over? They could just be people who live here who are non-white. But they look like immigrants. Let me tell you something. I will say this. Going back further than 1905, there are people who lived here who were non-white.

Did they protest? Yes. No, it's been 120 years. Fair enough. Any of that shit happened. You got me. You got me. It was all white Antifa kids who were disaffected and wanted to have fuck a bunch like their ancestors.

Makes sense. Who were protesters. Yep. So anyway, maybe we should be worried about this. Okay. So unemployment is going up. Everyone lies about it, but it is. And we just imported, I don't know, maybe 10 million new people.

What are they doing here? What was the purpose of that? How are they living? Well, they're living, of course, on the government. But why? Why did they get here? Why did Biden bring them in? That's a question that no one's answered.

And all of a sudden you look at these videos and you see people who are clearly just off the boat or the train and you start to wonder like maybe we were actually invaded maybe our ruling class

imported an army and pretended that they were migrants looking for a better life and maybe we're about to find out what that means this is really scary you might notice that Tucker's pretending this is a new thought to him

and that's because he knows that he's about to have to justify a new level of bullshit from Trump, and that requires the appearance of new rationales. Oh, maybe we are. Maybe there is an army. You're rediscovering all these things that you've said forever. Am I supposed to think that Tucker's just now had this light bulb moment that maybe immigrants are an invading army? This has been the thesis of his show for years. Yeah. This is bullshit. You know, it comes to mind for no reason at all, but I was, uh, I think I was reading this thing, well, Jane Goodall, unfortunately, rest in peace, Jane Goodall just died. Rest in primate. Ah, nice. Thanks. But so with chimpanzees, when they're fighting, they're, like, the first

thing they do is to neutralize the threat. So they'll rip your face off. They'll rip your jaw off, right? And then the second thing is to emasculate you. So they'll rip your balls and your dick just right off, just tear it off. I don't know why that comes to mind. But chimpanzees are our closest a primate relative. So something, a thought that I had. Are you trying to tell me that Trump is bringing in an army of chimps? I think that is exactly what I'm trying to tell you.

Is he trying to tell you? I'm trying to tell you that this man has brought in too many damned dirty apes, Dan. This is unbelievable shit from Tucker. Yeah, absolutely. It's obvious. The point that he's trying to make. make. I mean, and it's comical with any, within any kind of continuity for his content.

Why, why were they brought here? Any number of reasons that you have told me for the past my entire life. Right. I mean, the migrant caravan hysteria, he was a huge part of that. Right. He can't play this game where he's like, no one has ever answered this question I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So civil wars, we've already decided they're bad. They are bad. But sometimes they become race wars. Okay. Those are also. bad. I agree with that. So if all of a sudden these migrants are participating in street protests where they're throwing bricks through the

windows of passing cars, picking up orange cones and throwing them at minivans, you could see this getting completely out of control. And it's a reminder of something that is very often true, which is civil wars become race wars. That is

the truth. It's true globally. It was true in Latin America. Lots of the wars in Latin America were really between the Europeans. and the indigenous between the Indians and the Spanish descendants. So it's not really a civil war, is it? It was true in El Salvador. It was true across Latin America.

That could happen here. Are you talking just... Wait, wait, wait. You're talking about colonialism, right? Are you saying it's a civil war? Whatever the people who live somewhere are like, we don't want these white people here. Who are trying to take our resources and shit.

Okay, all right, all right. I didn't see that coming. That was on me. Well, that's a race war, too. I mean, clearly, that's about race. This guy's a fucking idiot and an asshole. Wow. So it's pretty difficult to see this and not see exactly what he's aiming towards.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. White people need to fight a defensive race war before it starts. Yeah, this is, hey, everybody put your Nazi boots on. We got to walk across the country and get rid of every. I mean, this is very clearly. This is the most Nazi thing I've ever heard from a very famous person ever. Pretty, and I was thinking about this as I was preparing this episode, that, like, in the moment, it's almost impossible to understand this. Yeah.

Like, this is for history. Mm-hmm. This episode that Tucker did is something that can only be understood after everything happens. Yep. This is so inflammatory and flagrantly out of line. Mm-hmm. It's crazy. Yeah, it can only be measured properly within the ability to see.

the response to the response to the response to the response of this. Like this is a thing that's going to cause a series of things to happen. And not necessarily that it's going to cause it directly, but it is a part of what is causing. It's a part of the wave that is cresting. Right. And is going to hurt a lot of people. Right. So Tucker plays a video of a guy walking around in Portland.

Sure. And there's some people doing drugs on the street. What? Right. Oh, my God. And Tucker comes back after this clip, and he's just scandalized. All native-born whites, of course. A 72-year-old smoking...

Native-born whites is not a thing I want to hear. On the street. Who would tolerate that? A cruel person, a truly cruel and evil person would tolerate that. That's not freedom. That's bondage. That's murder. No normal country would tolerate that for one moment.

And in real countries, they don't tolerate that. In a downtown? they don't do that only in the west do they do that if we keep this up we will get Mussolini at least because it's so unnatural it is so contrary to the laws of nature

it is so prima facie repulsive and mean to allow this that it cannot continue and the fact that it has been allowed to continue tells you everything thing about the people in charge. They're the worst. The worst.

So, I mean, like, I do think that people doing drugs on the street is unfortunate and a truly compassionate society would see that as a sign that something needs to be done differently. Sure. Tucker's answer to this is not an answer. No. Because the people have studied this pretty extensively. And we understand what strategies are more effective and which are less effective. And unfortunately, the ones that are more effective require quite a bit of funding.

And Tucker is against, he wants to do. doge to get rid of all those things. Yeah. All of that public spending that could provide resources for this person who is destitute and on the street doing drugs. Yep. He doesn't have an answer for this problem other than hurt these people more for their own good.

Yeah. And I don't think that's an answer. No, it's, it's eugenics. Sooner or later, it gets to eugenics. Yeah, it'll get to like, well, the best thing for them is to euthanize them. That's where it's going to be. Right. And this is supposed to be the, you know, party of personal responsibility, the people who

are like, hey, you know, like you should be able to make your own choices. The government shouldn't be in your business. Yeah. Ron Paul was a hero because he was like, people should be able to smoke weed. Yeah. Right? I mean, like. You know, ironically, I haven't heard Americans pushing this hard for euthanasia type eugenics since

1905. It's crazy. It was very popular back then. Hey, we're bringing it back. So we got one last clip here. And it's Tucker talking about how they should send in the troops when people are doing drugs on the street. To do what?

Kill them. Right, right? That's what we're talking about. Just kill those people is what you're saying. Get them off the street so people like Tucker don't have to see them. There's only one place to put them. If there was ever a reason to send federal troops into a city, it's 72-year-old smoking meth on the sidewalk.

We're shutting this down. We won't have this. Are they going to build him a house? Because that person, smoking meth, is a child of God created by God, and you're killing him, and we're not going to allow it. Someone's going to do that. That will happen. And the opportunity we have right now is to do it in a way that is not totalitarian.

But if we don't do it now, we're going to get totalitarianism. Trust me. Most coffee companies sell weakness. watered down drinks from faceless corporations that don't care about you or your family. Black Rifle, which, not to brag, is in this cup right here, is very different. So, yeah, there's a little irony of him complaining about people doing drugs on the street and then him selling caffeine. You know, he has another, you know, another sponsors his nicotine pouches. Yeah.

Like, he sells stuff that a compassionate society probably wouldn't have time for. Maybe caffeine's a little bit less dangerous than, like, I mean, nicotine pouches. are, you know, that's bad. Yeah. So if he and I were chimpanzees, what I'm trying to say is that I would immediately bear my fangs, right?

I would extend my jaw as far as possible. It sends a message. Right, right, right. And I would challenge him directly. And then I would rip his jaw off and then his dick and balls. What's important, though, is that you do show those teeth.

So there's a moment for recognition. Yeah. It's a challenge. It's a challenge. It's not one to be like, I'm not sneak attacking anybody. No, no, no. Baring the fangs, we begin.

Then there is a clear victor at the end of it. Yeah. This guy is the worst. It's just the worst. He is creative. Like, the thing that I thought was so interesting was these things are in theory not connected to each other. You know, you've got the Trump press conference with all these shitheads, and then you got Tucker. And they're both really working overtime to make the message that people in these cities are just too decadent.

And everything has gotten to the point where we need to crush them or else we will need to crush them. Yeah. And it's a false choice. And it's basically just, you know, like you said, textbook. It's textbook propaganda tactics to justify horrible things you're planning to do. Yeah. I just feel like here's what I feel like is happening. And it's a fundamental misunderstanding of where we are.

It is textbook, right? but it's also all theater like the idea of this it would almost it would make more sense to me if I'm thinking through this about how to

not like try and win the next four years I'm trying to win America I'm trying to weather the next four years so that there'll still be in America after this right and so what I'm thinking

is going like holy shit Trump you did a great job you sent the troops in you fixed everything and then you're good or send them in occupy him. We'll give him a place to live.

Just do everything possible to make him feel like what he wants to happen is happening without actually doing anything. Because it doesn't matter if anything is done. It's not real. Yeah, because nothing is being done. Right. Nothing effective is being done. Right. Yeah.

So just, you're right. We'll just coddle him for four years if we're not going to present an effective, like. But the unfortunate thing is that he's surrounded by and a lot of the people, who are in key decision-making positions also want to do the things that he wants to do. I suppose, do they? Yeah.

I mean, but like, really. Yeah. Because they're mostly shit-talkers. No, a lot of them are. You know? A lot of them are, but, yeah, I think a lot of them also do want to hurt people. I understand that, but like,

it makes sense to me if you're, if you're like fucking Himmler. Because this is, you know, you're part of the, you're part of the game. I think if you're someone in Tucker's position, I think you're right. And that is, like, for him, he has to survive the next, however long. Yeah. He has to keep his brand afloat and he needs to not do anything that too severely pisses off Trump.

If you're people who are in the government, like a Stephen Miller, like he does want to hurt people. Well, yeah, his only shot is now. Right. But there are a lot of people who are like that. Yeah. who are in positions within the administration. Yeah. Serial killers.

Yeah. So I think there are the people who are just shit talkers. And then there are the people who are like, nah. Nah. I mean, let's cleanse. Yeah. If I was a serial killer, I wouldn't do anything but work for Trump. It'd be good for business.

Yep. So I, yeah, I don't know. This is a little bit, a little bit off the Alexy path. We got back to Tucker. Yeah. I just, I couldn't, I couldn't watch this without seeing, like, there's something going on here. Yeah. There's definitely messaging that's being built around this.

Yeah. Now, I don't know if that means, and I don't want to, like, come off like, I'm, I'm reading, I'm reading through the, between the lines or anything. Sure. I'm not saying that, like, Trump has told Tucker he's going to do a bunch of this horrible shit. Right. or whatever. Right. It just feels like the people who are in these media positions

are situating themselves in such a way that they can survive or justify Trump doing horrible things. Yeah. And Trump saying things like there's no freedom of speech with flag burning anymore. Because I said so. Yeah. And it's like that's the secret power, though, is that they don't know any more than Trump does. How horrible.

It's just like, we're leaving the options open. in case he does suddenly go fucking crazy. Or he might be like tomorrow everybody gets ice cream in Chicago because that's who I am today. You know, like that's where we're at. I killed Warren Buffett and I took all his ice cream. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then we'd all be like, I guess that's what the president can do.

Wow. The Supreme Court hasn't ruled yet, but we've all got ice cream. So I guess it's legal. There's an injunction, but who knows? Who knows? I'm going to try the Rocky Road. Yeah. So anyway, shit's weird. and we'll be back with another episode.

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